Speaker 1: And definitely not the show that we set out to do.
Speaker 1: At the time, I hit send on all the prep
Speaker 1: that I sent ross yesterday only only to uh, you know,
Speaker 1: flip on just a little little something to just kind
Speaker 1: of wind down the mind and nerd out with some
Speaker 1: documentaries and flipping around, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: here we go, the phone starts banging away. I really
Speaker 1: do make an effort to disconnect once I'm out of it,
Speaker 1: but with the with the events that transpired up at
Speaker 1: d c A Reagan Reagan Airport yesterday, obviously.
Speaker 2: That was impossible.
Speaker 1: And if I sound a little rough, it's it's not
Speaker 1: fully from a lack of sleep.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Ross had a cold, then Trevor had a cold, and
Speaker 1: now I have a cold. But it didn't feel like
Speaker 1: it's a yeah, bad things. You'll just have to bear
Speaker 1: with me today. Uh So yesterday evening here is here
Speaker 1: is I guess the reader's digest version of what we know,
Speaker 1: and then we'll start getting into more details, or at
Speaker 1: least the details we have. This is tough, and for
Speaker 1: any of you who are regular fly regularly, especially with
Speaker 1: American Airlines, I have long American Airlines is the airline
Speaker 1: that I hold the most status on They just have
Speaker 1: the most convenient routes. Obviously Charlotte is a hub for them.
Speaker 1: The then the Miami to Raleigh. I'm on that, and
Speaker 1: I go to d C pretty I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't say regularly, but I'm there at least once a year,
Speaker 1: and very very often.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about all the routes.
Speaker 1: The Miami to Raleigh route, there's two in the afternoon,
Speaker 1: and one of is on this particular size aircraft. It's
Speaker 1: the later one, and this particular aircraft I have flown
Speaker 1: almost every time I have flown from Raleigh to DC
Speaker 1: because I fly into Reagan. I had to fly into
Speaker 1: Dulls this year, but every other time I avoid Dulles
Speaker 1: and I fly and so you get these small commuter jets. Now,
Speaker 1: while this flight was apparently from Wichita, Kansas to DCA,
Speaker 1: we're just gonna call it Reagan for the purpose of
Speaker 1: the discussion on the show, just to keep things smooth.
Speaker 2: I think most.
Speaker 1: People understand it is that, okay, rather than the airport code.
Speaker 1: I I wonder, I don't do we know where the
Speaker 1: flight crew is from, because a lot of the crews
Speaker 1: are North Carolina based it's a lot of Charlotte based
Speaker 1: flight crews on this particular size aircraft. Now, this is
Speaker 1: one of the subsidiaries you know, when you book and
Speaker 1: it'll say American Airlines VIA and then another slightly different,
Speaker 1: like American Eagle is one of their big other ones.
Speaker 1: So look, I don't know, and I don't want to
Speaker 1: talk out of turn, but one of the first things
Speaker 1: is like there's a couple, especially on that Miami route
Speaker 1: and sometimes they fly to DC as well, because you know,
Speaker 1: you can see where your plane's coming in from. There's
Speaker 1: a few crew members with American Airlines on this size
Speaker 1: aircraft that I I don't know, Like I don't know
Speaker 1: their kids' names, but like we nod if we see
Speaker 1: each other, which is cool because how many people they
Speaker 1: see on the regular.
Speaker 2: And so like there's that added element like what happened.
Speaker 1: And then if you fly, if you fly in and
Speaker 1: out of that airport or if you fly that particular
Speaker 1: size aircraft, it has another emotional connect to you, you know,
Speaker 1: because like that's the These are the tiniest of tiny, right,
Speaker 1: These are the two by two, the one by two,
Speaker 1: and the two by twos. So if you're up in
Speaker 1: business they have that one seat, which by the way,
Speaker 1: is not the same size as the two other business
Speaker 1: class seats. And then you know, you have your standard
Speaker 1: two by two through there holds but sixty ish people,
Speaker 1: and you have an incredibly interesting, different and busy air space.
Speaker 1: We talk about obviously New York, the you know, the
Speaker 1: intersection of LaGuardia, JFK, Newark, and you know a few
Speaker 1: others just due to all other proximity and how busy
Speaker 1: and insane that airspace is. ThEC is pretty busy because
Speaker 1: you're dealing with three big airports. I don't know if Reagan,
Speaker 1: don't know if Reagan Counts is big, but a substantial
Speaker 1: airport that sits right in kind of in the middle.
Speaker 1: Of course, you got Dallas off to the west, and
Speaker 1: and you have what is for all practical purposes a
Speaker 1: third Washington, DC airport straight north with BWI Baltimore's airport.
Speaker 1: And I have for one of those radio rows flown
Speaker 1: into Baltimore and we're with a group of others that
Speaker 1: were going to it. And then you know, you take
Speaker 1: a van down there. It's about an hour, but sometimes
Speaker 1: for scheduling or pricing, that's the decision that you make
Speaker 1: and the approaches on Reagan are like nothing in the world.
Speaker 2: They're their own thing.
Speaker 1: In fact, one of the folks who listens to the
Speaker 1: show he's called in before, is a retired airline pilot.
Speaker 1: His name is Joe, and he was kind enough this
Speaker 1: morning to send me a rather lengthy email. And I
Speaker 1: spoke to this man over the years. I don't doubt
Speaker 1: any of his credentials, and what he's telling me in
Speaker 1: here makes perfect sense. And I also know and have
Speaker 1: been texting this morning with a friend of mine who,
Speaker 1: for his mility, Terry Servis, was a crew chief for
Speaker 1: black Hawk helicopter. And he's been educating me because here
Speaker 1: is what the scenario looks like. Okay, it looks like
Speaker 1: and you can you can go. And I've listened to
Speaker 1: the air traffic. It's it's pretty choppy. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna play it, but I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: it says. Basically, everything is just normal. You have this
Speaker 1: American Airlines flight, it has already it has already set
Speaker 1: up for a unique approach. Hold on, let's see a
Speaker 1: visual circle to land maneuver.
Speaker 2: Let me read this.
Speaker 1: I've operated, this is this is the retired commercial pilot Joe.
Speaker 1: I've operated into and out of DCA hundreds of times.
Speaker 1: The CRJ seven hundred was doing a visual circle to
Speaker 1: land maneuver, which is not a maneuver anywhere but at
Speaker 1: DCA basically, and for those of you who have flown
Speaker 1: this this will sound familiar. It's truly one of the
Speaker 1: most fun approaches were allowed to do. The maneuver helps
Speaker 1: increase traffic flow into d C. So if you've flown
Speaker 1: into d C, especially from Raleigh, there's a couple different
Speaker 1: ways they'll stack you in there. The coolest one is
Speaker 1: what Joe is talking about because it allows you a
Speaker 1: visual of a lot of the stuff there in d C.
Speaker 1: You can see the Jefferson Memorial when you make that
Speaker 1: final turn. You can see Rock Creek Park where Hillary
Speaker 1: Clinton's associates go to end themselves, and you have you
Speaker 1: have the Washington Monument off your off your left side,
Speaker 1: and there's another approach where you kind of go out
Speaker 1: over the swamps or I had like a damn duck
Speaker 1: go by my window, which.
Speaker 2: Was pretty crazy.
Speaker 1: And but you know, you're you're there in d C.
Speaker 1: You're looking at the skyline, you're looking at the monuments
Speaker 1: and then boom, you're You're there, You're in, You're into
Speaker 1: Reagan Man and and I think it's one of the
Speaker 1: funnest airports just do to it's proximity to everything. And
Speaker 1: so in this case, the approach is you you would fly,
Speaker 1: you would you'd go towards landing like you're gonna land
Speaker 1: on one, and you would fly off that final at
Speaker 1: the Woodrow Wilson Bridge, right, so you know what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about where they have those on the right side,
Speaker 1: they have those shops and condos and stuff down there.
Speaker 2: Just visualize it in your mind.
Speaker 1: Fly along I two ninety five, turn over the Bowling
Speaker 1: Air Force Base, and then you're on final for runway
Speaker 1: thirty three. And if you listen to the ATC, this
Speaker 1: plane had completed all of those and was literally on final.
Speaker 1: And then you hear and it's it's kind of hard
Speaker 1: to hear. You hear the ATC interact with the Blackhawk
Speaker 1: and they do something that is pretty which is really common.
Speaker 1: They ask a pilot if they have a visual on
Speaker 1: another aircraft. Now I flip over to my conversation with
Speaker 1: my black Hawk crew chief Buddy or retired. He's been
Speaker 1: retired for a while, but he talks about how those
Speaker 1: visuals are required. If you've ever sat in the cockpit
Speaker 1: of an airplane, depending on the equipment you're in, there's
Speaker 1: only a certain periphery of view, and spotting another aircraft
Speaker 1: is I've had the opportunity because I have friends that
Speaker 1: have small planes to you know, sit there in the
Speaker 1: up in the cockpit obviously with them, and it's interesting
Speaker 1: as somebody who's not a pilot trying to pick these
Speaker 1: things out, and like the pilots are good at it.
Speaker 1: My buddy Tim is who I spent the most time with.
Speaker 1: He has a SR twenty, which is a serious if
Speaker 1: there's any pilots listening, wondering, and that has a pretty
Speaker 1: good field of view. I I don't know what the
Speaker 1: Blackhawks is. However, what my friend was telling me is
Speaker 1: it's not just the pilots, the crew chief is also
Speaker 1: or perhaps primarily Again, I'm just having a quick conversation
Speaker 1: this morning, trying to educate myself they have a responsibility
Speaker 1: for doing this spotting and not just spotting aircraft because
Speaker 1: ATC at A, you know, in this case in d
Speaker 1: C said hey do you see the do you see
Speaker 1: the seven hundred and they have a unique system too.
Speaker 1: They got to language all their own. I didn't know
Speaker 1: what discs were. So this is a measurement device the
Speaker 1: black Hawk crew would use to tell a pilot. So
Speaker 1: when you see, like if you see a helicopters flying information,
Speaker 1: part of his job is to you know, call out
Speaker 1: distances for the pilots. So if you've got a formation
Speaker 1: of black Hawks and you want to tell somebody, then
Speaker 1: another Blackhawk in the formation is five discs. What that
Speaker 1: means is the diameter of the rotor, which I don't
Speaker 1: know what that number is, but they do. So there's
Speaker 1: a lot there's a lot of moving pieces here and
Speaker 1: where this can go sideways, and both Joe suggests it
Speaker 1: in his email and my Blackhawk buddy suggested in his email.
Speaker 1: Their suspicion seems to be that a member of the
Speaker 1: Blackhawk team misidentified in aircraft and it could be busy
Speaker 1: airspace obviously with those three plus you've got you have
Speaker 1: some regional airports there, and we're human and if you misidentify, obviously,
Speaker 1: and the call is so close to the impact that
Speaker 1: again people are running around with conspiracy theories and all
Speaker 1: the rest people are trying to make political hay.
Speaker 2: Out of this.
Speaker 1: See, it is these situations when the best people and
Speaker 1: the worst people all have to emerge. Right the best
Speaker 1: people are digging around in the Potomac River right now,
Speaker 1: in incredibly cold water, and immediately we're on it trying
Speaker 1: to figure out who can we rescue anybody? And they're
Speaker 1: going to work and they're talking over the radio and
Speaker 1: they're saying thing they were finding people literally still seat
Speaker 1: builded in upside down in the fuselage and seven feet
Speaker 1: of water. And then the you know, the media is
Speaker 1: out running with it and deciding, all right, well, how
Speaker 1: can we go ahead and blame the incoming administration. So
Speaker 1: the best of people who would snap into action and
Speaker 1: attempt to conduct these rescues on a moment's notice in
Speaker 1: a really horrific situation, in a very dangerous situation. I mean,
Speaker 1: they had boats rush into this thing when rotors were
Speaker 1: still turning. Probably you don't know what's going to happen.
Speaker 1: Plus you're dealing with the fact that it's not just
Speaker 1: a plane, it's a helicopter. It appears by some some
Speaker 1: of the witness statements that there was a there was
Speaker 1: an attempted bank so you know, I'm sure an alarm
Speaker 1: is screaming.
Speaker 2: Proximity alarm is screaming. There in the seven.
Speaker 1: Hundred and off of that final the plane does a
Speaker 1: really hard bank and then witnesses described sparks going across
Speaker 1: the bottom of the plane, which is likely the rotors
Speaker 1: from the Blackhawk, which is going to cut it in
Speaker 1: half or is going to slice it up substantially. So
Speaker 1: at this point, based on again my own imperfect knowledge
Speaker 1: and communicating though, you know, real quickly with the military side,
Speaker 1: and I rather detailed email the thankfully one of our
Speaker 1: listeners sent that sounds like the most common or that
Speaker 1: that sounds like the most probable unfortunate human air There
Speaker 1: will be questions why are we flying blackhawks? But let
Speaker 1: me tell you what I've seen Blackhawks in the air.
Speaker 1: I've seen in the air Blackhawks and Ausprey's literally flying
Speaker 1: in and out of Reagan Man. And then of course
Speaker 1: when you're on the ground, you know you may see
Speaker 1: the if you've been in DC a few times, you
Speaker 1: might even have seen the president flying with his his
Speaker 1: marines there. So let's not go crazy. Let's figure out
Speaker 1: what happened and if something has changed, fine, and let
Speaker 1: me tell you what. And and there is a political
Speaker 1: angle here, and that is you have a you have
Speaker 1: an aviation accident that involves both commercial standard, civilian and military.
Speaker 1: Sean Duffy, who I have met once when he was
Speaker 1: would he very what? He was very first elected as
Speaker 1: a congressman from Wisconsin, he happened to serve western Wisconsin.
Speaker 1: I was at an event it was on it was
Speaker 1: literally right on the river, so he had congress people
Speaker 1: from Minnesota and Wisconsin and I met he was super young, dude,
Speaker 1: very uh, I don't know, very nice. Came across as
Speaker 1: very nice. Other than that, I don't know anything about him.
Speaker 1: He's been in change, he's he's he literally is in
Speaker 1: this job hours. He's been in the job hours hours
Speaker 1: and Pete Hegseth days. And if there is any time
Speaker 1: to put aside the garbage and to have you know,
Speaker 1: I I don't even know who was the FAA director
Speaker 1: at the time during our last commercial aircraft crash here
Speaker 1: in the US.
Speaker 2: It's been so long.
Speaker 1: But whether it's Seany as Secretary of Transportation or the
Speaker 1: Pete Hegseth over at Department of Defense, can we just
Speaker 1: cool it for a few minutes? And it's okay to
Speaker 1: ask for help. We're gonna dive deeper into this. We're
Speaker 1: trying to round up some guests. We'll get to it
Speaker 1: all coming up case O Day Radio program.
Speaker 2: I was just saying it to be a jerk, and
Speaker 2: I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm really not, and I'm not saying it to be
Speaker 1: some arrogant person who's been in media for a long time.
Speaker 1: I know that Elon said you're the media now. We're
Speaker 1: the media now.
Speaker 2: Meaning people on social media, and.
Speaker 1: That is true. But not everybody needs to be the
Speaker 1: media on everything, do you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: if most of your posts are crap posts, or you're
Speaker 1: a yoga account or muckbang that weirdness or an only's cruel,
Speaker 1: you don't all need to post it because you're not
Speaker 1: providing new information. I balance it because I balance with this.
Speaker 1: If you're a big account that every single thing on
Speaker 1: my timeline last night is something about what was going
Speaker 1: on with this this crash, and that's fine. But the
Speaker 1: problem is I'm fishing through trying to find information that
Speaker 1: others don't and I'm just getting incredibly frustrated because a
Speaker 1: lot of it is unattributed reposting, like people are cutting
Speaker 1: and pasting, and then I'll read it. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: this person just cut the other thing. And then you
Speaker 1: look at their account and they got like, you know,
Speaker 1: eleven hundred followers, which is fine, I'm not making fun
Speaker 1: of follower numbers.
Speaker 2: But everything they post is about yu gi. Oh, so
Speaker 2: it was. It made it really difficult.
Speaker 1: I've told you, I love x Twitter, whatever you want
Speaker 1: to call it. For breaking news, it's fantastic. It's fantastic.
Speaker 1: And the evolution of it to be more non breaking
Speaker 1: but investigatory is fantastic. All this is great. But I
Speaker 1: finally just kind of gave up and then I'm what
Speaker 1: am I doing? I'm back on NBC, CBS, ABC, Fight.
Speaker 1: I mean the normals right there, because I need concise information,
Speaker 1: and when people who don't do breaking news are are
Speaker 1: doing it, there is there is a possibility that they're incorrect.
Speaker 1: I saw people reporting that the Blackhawk was in some
Speaker 1: sort of blackout mode and so, and it simply wasn't.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's literally doing Oh and its transponder wasn't on.
Speaker 1: Obviously it was atc is talking to the plane. They're
Speaker 1: talking to the helicopter. This the everything here sounds like
Speaker 1: somebody gave a false visual acknowledgment. Not intentionally, they messed up.
Speaker 1: They messed up here. By the way, here is that
Speaker 1: ex shape again. It's hard to hear, but but listening.
Speaker 3: Change the Sturt roadway three three from way three three
Speaker 3: clear flant?
Speaker 1: All right. So I when I mentioned earlier what this
Speaker 1: approach looks like. The Woodrow Wilson Bridge is where they're turning.
Speaker 1: You hear the pilot acknowledge that he's making the turn there, okay,
Speaker 1: And once he makes that turn and then pops right
Speaker 1: along there, you know this is this is when the
Speaker 1: good visuals are this portion of that particular landing. And
Speaker 1: this thing's almost in. People are already holding their cell
Speaker 1: phones getting ready to turn off airplane mode. You know.
Speaker 2: The drill.
Speaker 3: Change the Sturt roadway through three from way three three
Speaker 3: clear flant.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: That's the a T air.
Speaker 1: That's the ATC telling him coming from there that you're
Speaker 1: you're clear, you're good to go.
Speaker 3: That memorial that's.
Speaker 4: Pod serge in flight.
Speaker 1: A aircraft all right.
Speaker 2: So there you hear the aircraft inside and it's.
Speaker 5: Fortunately American left and two positive clment on.
Speaker 1: TC notices something's wrong obviously that they're they're on a
Speaker 1: collision course. Again, I'm not a pilot. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if ATC should have noticed it earlier.
Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to sit here and lay blame
Speaker 1: one way or the other. I'm just trying because look
Speaker 1: the possibilities when you have UH aircraft colliding over our
Speaker 1: nation's capital run the gamut. Admittedly so, admittedly so, everything
Speaker 1: from terrorism to a disgrunt told military member or a
Speaker 1: disgrunt told American Airlines member, like, all of.
Speaker 2: That's out there. And I'm not saying that that we may.
Speaker 1: Not find out something else, but you gotta you got
Speaker 1: to try to get a handle on this with what
Speaker 1: you can see, and what you can see sure sounds
Speaker 1: a lot like the pilot or the crew I should
Speaker 1: say of this Blackhawk misidentified the aircraft because if they
Speaker 1: had a visual which is pretty wild, and I'll be
Speaker 1: curious to see what the altitude differential was on them
Speaker 1: at the time of the impact of obviously wasn't that
Speaker 1: high off the ground. You've probably seen the video of
Speaker 1: the explosion from the I think the Kennedy Center had
Speaker 1: a camera pointed over there. So that's where we are.
Speaker 1: We have reached out to Senator Bud this morning. We're
Speaker 1: reaching out to Brad not David Rouser. I think we
Speaker 1: have a third transportation community. I think it's Addison McDowell,
Speaker 1: the new guy, and hopefully we can chat with one
Speaker 1: or more of them. But unfortunately we find ourselves sitting
Speaker 1: here in the first in a presidential transition. So there
Speaker 1: will be people trying to make hay off of this,
Speaker 1: and of course CNN was one of the first Mary, I.
Speaker 6: Have one more question for you. Look, it's January twenty ninth.
Speaker 6: We are just nine days out from a presidential transition
Speaker 6: and administrative transition. The FAA administrator resigned at the end
Speaker 6: of the Biden administration, so there is no permanent, confirmed
Speaker 6: FAA administrator.
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, well there isn't acting and the FAA administrator.
Speaker 1: And this is where it gets a little insulting here.
Speaker 1: The guys in the the guys do an ATC just
Speaker 1: because their bosses in there didn't forget to be how
Speaker 1: they did it a week ago. Okay, they didn't forget
Speaker 1: what they were doing. The folks that handle air traic
Speaker 1: control in in a particular geographic area like this are
Speaker 1: among the best of the best because it's such a
Speaker 1: crazy airspace with its everything and things that are so unique.
Speaker 1: The idea that you're landing commercial airliners in that proximity
Speaker 1: to all of the nation's power is pretty incredible. And
Speaker 1: you know, just having you know, big airports flanking you
Speaker 1: creates these unique situations. These are not rookies. And let
Speaker 1: me go to the other side, because I see people
Speaker 1: that are going, you know where they they say that
Speaker 1: this was a training thing for the black Hawk guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe you know why, because whether it's their first day
Speaker 1: on that black Hawk crew or they are among the
Speaker 1: most elite and longest serving in that capacity, they do training.
Speaker 1: That's what. What do you think the military does all day?
Speaker 1: What do you think? What do you think they're banging
Speaker 1: around La June where you see them running around in
Speaker 1: the trucks out to all those different woods. What do
Speaker 1: you think having a picnic? They're training? Everybody's training. Why
Speaker 1: do you see the ospreys if you go hang out
Speaker 1: at North TOPSI over why when I was I saw
Speaker 1: a formation when I was down driving through Havelock past
Speaker 1: Cherry Point to go to that event. Down in Beaufort
Speaker 1: over the weekend. It's never not cool. Guys are training,
Speaker 1: that's what that's what they do. So so don't attempt
Speaker 1: to gauge if they've described it as a training fight flight,
Speaker 1: U don't don't attempt to gauge that that means it's
Speaker 1: a bunch of inexperienced people. Some of some airline crashes
Speaker 1: have involved very experienced pilots. It's a it's an inherently
Speaker 1: dangerous thing you're doing. It's magic for I mean, for
Speaker 1: all practical purposes. The idea that you can take something
Speaker 1: that ways I think the I remember seeing what the
Speaker 1: gross tonnage is supposed to be on the new air
Speaker 1: Force one, and it's like it's almost a million gross
Speaker 1: tons and you're gonna put that in the air.
Speaker 2: Hold on I's probably check what that is.
Speaker 1: But but but uh, air Force one weight and because
Speaker 1: the new one is quite a bit bigger, and you're
Speaker 1: and you're making that fly around in the air, and
Speaker 1: that's incredible, that's absolutely incredible, and so.
Speaker 2: And to accomplish that you have to do things. This
Speaker 2: is so stupid.
Speaker 1: I want the air Force one weight ross and it's
Speaker 1: giving me the shoe weight.
Speaker 2: Thanks Google.
Speaker 1: Thanks predictive search on Google. Why do you think people
Speaker 1: would be checking plane.
Speaker 2: Weights this morning?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So current? Yeah, so that is correct. So the
Speaker 1: current one is eight hundred and thirty three. The new
Speaker 1: one the Boeing's building slowly is right around a million pounds.
Speaker 1: And you put that in the air and you have
Speaker 1: to keep it depending on what kind of aircraft it is.
Speaker 1: How it's built at a at a speed, and if
Speaker 1: you don't maintain that speed, you're now just a rock
Speaker 1: falling off of a cliff man. And one hundred and
Speaker 1: one other things they're having to think about. Don't knock
Speaker 1: on pilots just because there's so much avionics now and automation.
Speaker 1: The reason you have them in there is when the
Speaker 1: computer goes, I don't want to do this anymore, and
Speaker 1: they got to do it. And don't knock on these
Speaker 1: guys in the Blackhawk. They're sitting there and they have
Speaker 1: to when they want to get a visual, they require
Speaker 1: members of their crew flight crew to literally stick their
Speaker 1: head out the window so that they can gauge a
Speaker 1: disc distance and rotor distance between them and they can
Speaker 1: help with visual And I don't know exactly how the
Speaker 1: process and where the responsibility lies. But in talking to
Speaker 1: my buddy, it was a chief. The crew chief has
Speaker 1: a lot of very important jobs when it comes to
Speaker 1: identifying and spacing and positioning aircraft around it. But it
Speaker 1: doesn't mean everyone's a rookie here. It's far more likely,
Speaker 1: by the way, that these are experienced pilots or an
Speaker 1: experienced crew at least. So you know CNN wanted to
Speaker 1: cut in here, Well, we don't even have an FAA director.
Speaker 1: Well you know, even if you did, you could not
Speaker 1: convey if the FAA director was still in there from
Speaker 1: Biden and between the transition of Trump to what happened yesterday,
Speaker 1: there is not a single ATC member there that likely
Speaker 1: would have communicated in any way, shape or form with them,
Speaker 1: nothing would be different. So can we not go here?
Speaker 1: Can we please please not go here?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: Let me give credit where credit is due, And I
Speaker 1: don't even mean this from a political reason. Oh I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: Let me play the rest of the CNN thing.
Speaker 6: Hold on, now, this is going to be a time
Speaker 6: when there's going to be a lot of public communication
Speaker 6: and a lot of investigation of what happened here. What
Speaker 6: do you anticipate this transition period? Is going to mean
Speaker 6: for what happens today and tomorrow and in the coming
Speaker 6: days as we find out what happened here.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, and then that's a fair question at
Speaker 1: the end, all right, what is this going to look like?
Speaker 1: And yes, you have a transition. I just pointed out,
Speaker 1: you got Duffy Dot, you got heg Seth. A military. Obviously,
Speaker 1: because you're dealing with a civilian and military, this is
Speaker 1: it will be more complicated. There will be more chiefs,
Speaker 1: so to speak. But I also would like to think
Speaker 1: because they are new in this job, there will be
Speaker 1: you know, you don't get as entrenched in your particular
Speaker 1: part of the executive branch. And I hope that that
Speaker 1: means everyone works better together. Remember after Dine to eleven,
Speaker 1: what was the big thing? Why weren't any of our
Speaker 1: agencies working together? So let's not predict that it's going
Speaker 1: to be that. Why don't we hope for the best
Speaker 1: And and to the to the Trump folks there, I
Speaker 1: I would say the same. If there are people from
Speaker 1: the last administration who swapped out. If Pete Boodhages has
Speaker 1: anything that is helpful, he never he never did one
Speaker 1: of these that I that I can remember so, but
Speaker 1: if and and and then I want to see those
Speaker 1: guys on the phone together or in an office together.
Speaker 1: We can we can be better than where CNN and
Speaker 1: some are going. And credit to the White House Press
Speaker 1: Secretary has been there for you know, a few days
Speaker 1: who immediately was out there and.
Speaker 2: Talking to the public.
Speaker 1: Here she is on the thought breaking news.
Speaker 7: I have called over to my counterparts at the White House,
Speaker 7: and I can confirm that President Trump has been made
Speaker 7: aware of this situation. And tragically, it appears that a
Speaker 7: military helicopter collided with a regional jet at DCA Airport
Speaker 7: right here in Washington, d C. That's all I can
Speaker 7: confirm at this point in time. And I can just
Speaker 7: say that the thoughts and the prayers of the entire
Speaker 7: Trump administration are with all those that are involved. And
Speaker 7: we ask the public in this area to please stand
Speaker 7: by for guidance from law enforcement and allow them to
Speaker 7: do their jobs as they attempt to save lives.
Speaker 1: Right now, Okay, all right, And you know she's not
Speaker 1: given big details, but she's there.
Speaker 2: She's there, and she's telling folks what they know.
Speaker 1: And now now it's time to digest the news and
Speaker 1: investigate and figure out and tally up rescues versus loss,
Speaker 1: the folks involved figuring out exactly what happened. There's cameras,
Speaker 1: which is you know, that's kind of an unusual part here.
Speaker 1: You have cameras a lot more just because there's so
Speaker 1: many around DC, and you have also whatever monitoring apparatus
Speaker 1: the military has. So let's let's just take it down
Speaker 1: a notch for people wanting to flip around the edges
Speaker 1: before we accuse them of silent running spy blackhawks.
Speaker 2: And then also a Trump.
Speaker 1: You know, somehow Trump screwed it up, and I think
Speaker 1: we'll all be better off. They are saying there's going
Speaker 1: to be a press conference at seven point thirty. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have Ross listen in while around the air and
Speaker 1: if it's a you know, if there's anything there, he
Speaker 1: can either communicate it or.
Speaker 2: We'll put it up.
Speaker 1: But we'll hopefully be chatting with our members of the
Speaker 1: NC delegation. Hopefully we can get a hold of one
Speaker 1: of them that serve on either of the transportation committees.
Speaker 1: So stay tuned. Lots to get to. We got a
Speaker 1: few other stories. We are going to talk about the
Speaker 1: RFK thing from yesterday.
Speaker 2: We just we have to.
Speaker 1: I've already seen weirdos, conspiracy weirdos saying that the crash
Speaker 1: was to distract from that. Just stop it, just stop this,
Speaker 1: take a day, touchgrass, as the kids say, okay, and
Speaker 1: we'll be right back. A lot of changes in the
Speaker 1: news cycle from you know, right around that seven o'clock mark.
Speaker 2: For sure.
Speaker 1: I actually sent prep a little early to Ross yesterday.
Speaker 1: I won the cold contest that everyone else has been having.
Speaker 1: But with this, this tragedy out of Reagan Airport, a
Speaker 1: small commuter jet from American Airlines, one of the seven hundreds.
Speaker 1: This a little tiny one, and I'm sure many of you,
Speaker 1: if you fly, especially if you fly to DC Miami
Speaker 1: short you know short routes around here, you've been on one.
Speaker 2: They've got a lot of them.
Speaker 1: Collided with a black Hawk helicopter military helicopter in very
Speaker 1: spectacular and deadly fashion over the Potomac River, directly adjacent
Speaker 1: to Reagan on final pro the Woodrow Wilson Bridge is
Speaker 1: if if you've made the the Wilson Bridge, if you
Speaker 1: don't know, is the one that uh uh wait, hold on,
Speaker 1: I want to be. I want to be is al
Speaker 1: is where Alexandria connects, but I think there's two of them,
Speaker 1: so I just want to be clear. It's well, obviously
Speaker 1: it's the furthest south one, and so if you've made
Speaker 1: that approach, you go, the plane does a big turn.
Speaker 1: You can see the Jefferson Monument, you can see in
Speaker 1: the distance, the Washington Monument, Rock Creek Park, all that,
Speaker 1: and you come in and you know, it's a fun
Speaker 1: if if you love watching stuff from the air, it's
Speaker 1: a really fun airport because you know, you recognize all
Speaker 1: the stuff from DC.
Speaker 2: It's great.
Speaker 1: I love it. And I've been on that exact size
Speaker 1: plane with that company, American Airlines and their subsidiaries, probably
Speaker 1: a dozen times up to DC. And it's not my
Speaker 1: favorite aircraft because it's it's just it's so tiny, but
Speaker 1: you don't care. It's nice, short, little flight. And this
Speaker 1: one was originating from Kansas. I would point out that
Speaker 1: a lot of the crews I've seen on those regional
Speaker 1: American carriers are especially for American or North Carolina base.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of Charlotte based cruise. There's even some
Speaker 1: Raleigh based crews.
Speaker 8: And.
Speaker 1: So if you fly a lot for business and a
Speaker 1: lot of these regional commuters. I mean, there is every
Speaker 1: chance in the world that maybe a crew member you
Speaker 1: would recognize. So just you know, prayers for everyone there.
Speaker 1: I know everyone gets whipped up for thoughts and prayers,
Speaker 1: but it's what you can do right now, and what
Speaker 1: Washington can do, and what this new administration can do
Speaker 1: is understand that, yes, you walked in here, you are
Speaker 1: your days into it. The Transportation Secretary's hours into his job.
Speaker 2: It's not quite you know.
Speaker 1: Obviously Bush had a little more distance, but you know
Speaker 1: it was very early in his career when nine to
Speaker 1: eleven happened. I'm not comparing the two things. I'm just
Speaker 1: pointing out that you out of scramble, and I hope
Speaker 1: that you know yesterday while members of Congress are screaming
Speaker 1: at nominees over baby onesies and if you miss that, we.
Speaker 2: Will play it.
Speaker 1: You all can just just cool it today and if
Speaker 1: there are people with it because.
Speaker 2: I looked it up. So do you know the last.
Speaker 1: Legacy carrier or partner I shouldn't say legacy carrier but
Speaker 1: large aircraft crash was in the United States two thousand
Speaker 1: and nine, two thousand and nine. That's amazing. That's an
Speaker 1: amazing record. In fact, somebody sent me an email and
Speaker 1: did the math here. Yeah, here we go. So in
Speaker 1: the United States, between the two thousand and nine crash
Speaker 1: and what transpired yesterday, here we go, we averaged thirteen
Speaker 1: million commercial flights per year. That means between the last
Speaker 1: major accident and this, we have had one hundred and
Speaker 1: ninety five million flights commercial flights here in the United
Speaker 1: States without well without crashing. Obviously there's incidents. I was,
Speaker 1: we had a tire blow, I mean, just stuff like that.
Speaker 1: And then the procedures are so good even when those
Speaker 1: things happened, Even when me and my other passengers were
Speaker 1: literally braced against our seats landing in Atlanta after we
Speaker 1: blew a mad dog tire taken off out of Tampa
Speaker 1: and we didn't know if the other one was blown.
Speaker 1: They make it work through procedure and training. And on
Speaker 1: the military side, same thing. So also it's important because
Speaker 1: these things do have that effect. It's important that the
Speaker 1: investigation comes out. They are open with it because it
Speaker 1: is more complicated because it's civilian and military, and you know,
Speaker 1: the Trump administration, one of the things they need to
Speaker 1: do is every step of the way, let people know
Speaker 1: what's going on, because one of the net effects of
Speaker 1: a crash and under it's understandable is there is a
Speaker 1: dip in air traffic. People go, People who are already
Speaker 1: nervous of flying go, you know, I'll take the train
Speaker 1: or the bus or I won't go, and and and
Speaker 1: we get over it and then people more. But transparency
Speaker 1: is going to get us there. And with people in
Speaker 1: charge at DOT and at the Secretary of Defense being
Speaker 1: hours or days into their job, it's going to be
Speaker 1: important to draw on that. And the narrative of the
Speaker 1: media to once to put out is that they fired everybody.
Speaker 1: There's nobody knows what they're doing and some you know,
Speaker 1: basically people didn't know what they were doing. Are are
Speaker 1: it fouled here? And I don't believe that from it
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. They didn't just swap the air traffic
Speaker 1: controllers at Reagan in the last week. So don't don't
Speaker 1: take the bait on that stuff. All right, Like I said,
Speaker 1: we've got a few things we got to get to.
Speaker 1: We have invitations out to several elected officials who sit
Speaker 1: on transportation committees. North Carolina has four or five, well,
Speaker 1: they have four Republicans and there's a reason I'm leaning
Speaker 1: into Republicans. I will gladly talk to a Democrat who's
Speaker 1: on the Transportation committee. But this is going back to
Speaker 1: where people are on Twitter and everyone's a reporter on
Speaker 1: the same story.
Speaker 2: That clogs up the timeline.
Speaker 1: One of the things you learn early on when you
Speaker 1: do reporting, or you do this version of it that
Speaker 1: we do. And I used to be a straight reporter,
Speaker 1: Now I do this. You have to prioritize, and if
Speaker 1: you're young, you make a list who is the most
Speaker 1: valuable person to talk to. Well, the most valuable person
Speaker 1: in this case would be somebody who was on one
Speaker 1: of those aircraft that's not going to be possible, than
Speaker 1: the air traffic controller probably that's not going to be possible.
Speaker 1: Then a witness who's in the proximity of this who
Speaker 1: may have experience of either military aircraft or commercial or both. Right,
Speaker 1: you rank all these things. That's what you acquire. And
Speaker 1: when you go on the political side, you want to
Speaker 1: talk to people who are on these committees, or you
Speaker 1: want to talk to people within the departments secret you know,
Speaker 1: in the Defense Department or in the Transportation or somebody
Speaker 1: at the FAA.
Speaker 2: And then who's in power. You lean into.
Speaker 1: Their elected group because they likely will have more access
Speaker 1: to more things. And I can do this in my
Speaker 1: head now, but when I was younger, I used to
Speaker 1: make a list for this stuff, and then you get
Speaker 1: to work what's worth your time to track down and
Speaker 1: and so for those of you out there, and there's
Speaker 1: a lot of you who listen who also do the
Speaker 1: news stuff, that's that's how I approach this stuff, okay,
Speaker 1: And that's how we get new, interesting or useful information
Speaker 1: out quickly. Like I said, there is a press conference
Speaker 1: coming up. We'll see what's there. Ross is gonna listen
Speaker 1: in while we do what we do. But let me
Speaker 1: flip back to yesterday, where I hope the antics of
Speaker 1: yesterday are a little tempered because I turned into that
Speaker 1: RFK hearing and literally, as RFK is reading his opening statement,
Speaker 1: the moonbats where.
Speaker 9: I am neither I am pro safety.
Speaker 1: By the way that person is interrupting an official proceeding
Speaker 1: at the Congressional building. So was it a fifty dollars
Speaker 1: fine or are they in jail for eight years?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think they probably just got the fine. So with that,
Speaker 1: let's go ahead and get into the the insane portion
Speaker 1: of it. I normally I knock on like the the
Speaker 1: some of the women senators who have been screaming in
Speaker 1: some of these hearings, and of course Liz Warren will
Speaker 1: make an appearance, but even some of the dudes were
Speaker 1: in on. Even the Colorado Congressman Bennett was just absolutely
Speaker 1: unhinged at the beginning of this.
Speaker 10: Did you say on a podcast and I quote, I
Speaker 10: wouldn't leave it abortion to the states. My belief is
Speaker 10: we should leave it to the woman. We shouldn't have
Speaker 10: the government involved, even if it's full term. Did you
Speaker 10: say that, mister senator?
Speaker 1: I believe every abortion is a tragedy.
Speaker 10: Did you say it, mister Kennedy?
Speaker 1: It just matters, It doesn't matter what.
Speaker 10: You come here and say.
Speaker 1: That he's screaming at him, and I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: understand this tactic of screaming at like because you're not
Speaker 1: adulting anymore. You're the You're no different than I am neither. Well,
Speaker 1: hold on, you're no different than this.
Speaker 11: I am neither.
Speaker 9: I am pro safety.
Speaker 1: You're the same thing. When you do that isn't true.
Speaker 10: That's not reflective of what you really believe. That you
Speaker 10: haven't said over decade after decade after decade, because unlike
Speaker 10: other jobs we're confirming around this place, this is a
Speaker 10: job where it is life and death for the kids
Speaker 10: that I used to work for in the Denver public
Speaker 10: schools and for families all over this country that Bennett's
Speaker 10: own political party, including the mayor of Denver and others,
Speaker 10: have decided that they are going to stand between accessing.
Speaker 1: In any public governmental setting, school setting or whatnot for
Speaker 1: the purpose of the federal immigration enforcement right.
Speaker 2: And remember this whole.
Speaker 1: Mess, as I've told you, this by design thing of
Speaker 1: the Biden administration with immigration has led to widespread suffering
Speaker 1: and death. So the hypocrisy from the is it was
Speaker 1: driving me nutty watching this yesterday.
Speaker 10: That are suffering from living in the richest country of
Speaker 10: the world that can't deliver basic health care and basic
Speaker 10: mental health here to them, it's too important for the
Speaker 10: games that you're playing, mister Kennedy.
Speaker 2: And and I'm gonna stop him.
Speaker 1: There is anybody unclear that Kennedy's been a a has
Speaker 1: been pro abortion. That's that was one of the things
Speaker 1: that the Trump administration had to explain that this is
Speaker 1: not because now it's the state's issue, Like nobody thinks
Speaker 1: that RFK Junior is one hundred percent pro life, and
Speaker 1: in fact that that's why there's some very conservative folks
Speaker 1: who don't want him in there a little waste of time.
Speaker 1: But then Elizabeth Warren and I want you to pick
Speaker 1: up on what she's doing here because it's that insane.
Speaker 1: I'm asking about sees from suing drug companies. Will you
Speaker 1: agree not to do that? You're asking me to not
Speaker 1: sue drug companies.
Speaker 5: I'm not going to agree to companies as much I want.
Speaker 12: I'm not going to agree to not sue drug companies
Speaker 12: or anybody.
Speaker 1: What what is Elizabeth Warren is that she claims that's
Speaker 1: not what it is. But when you when you talk
Speaker 1: about fees for it, well, what lawyers are you going
Speaker 1: to get to sue drug companies if they're not extracting fees.
Speaker 1: So in essence, you're arguing that they don't sue drug companies,
Speaker 1: that that's a Democrat position is wild to me. I
Speaker 1: mean it's not because I understand where we are now,
Speaker 1: and COVID entrenched a lot of this, and and Bennett
Speaker 1: is one of the largest recipients. The other guy played
Speaker 1: of pharmaceutical donations. Damn near a million dollars in the
Speaker 1: last cycle. I mean, what are we doing here? Why
Speaker 1: is any elected officials saying, well, you're not going to
Speaker 1: sue drug companies. I'll let you figure out why that
Speaker 1: may be. Now, that's not where Bernie Sanders went. Bernie
Speaker 1: Sanders he went in a very different direction.
Speaker 2: He had beef with.
Speaker 1: Merch, specifically an organization that Kennedy is no longer with, however,
Speaker 1: was part of, was one of the founders who sells
Speaker 1: merch on their website, specifically baby merch, baby onesies. And
Speaker 1: Sanders just can't deal. And he has like a picture
Speaker 1: of the onesies.
Speaker 2: Just listen to this.
Speaker 5: They are telling me what's called onesies, these little things
Speaker 5: clothing for babies.
Speaker 1: By the way, when he says the word babies, he
Speaker 1: sounds like you say. He says it this with disgust.
Speaker 1: It's just his delivery, like a babies. Puh.
Speaker 5: They are telling me what's called onesies, these little things
Speaker 5: clothing for babies. One of them is dialed on facts
Speaker 5: on a frame. Next one of the sold for twenty
Speaker 5: six bucks a piece, by the way, next one is
Speaker 5: no vas.
Speaker 1: No problem.
Speaker 5: Now you're coming.
Speaker 9: Before this committee, and you say you're pro vaccine, just
Speaker 9: want to ask some questions, and yet your organization is
Speaker 9: making money selling a child's product to parents for twenty
Speaker 9: six bucks, which cast.
Speaker 5: Fundamental doubt on ut on the usefulness of vaccines. Can
Speaker 5: you tell us now that you will, now that you
Speaker 5: are pro vaccine, that you're.
Speaker 9: Going to have your organization take these products off the market?
Speaker 13: Senator, I have no power over that organization, not your
Speaker 13: heard of it.
Speaker 9: Resigned from the board.
Speaker 5: That was just a few months ago. You founded that.
Speaker 5: You certainly have power you could make that. How are
Speaker 5: you supportive of this?
Speaker 12: I've had nothing to do.
Speaker 5: With your supportive of these onesies?
Speaker 1: I'm supportive of that will be one of the greatest
Speaker 1: political lines ever. Are you supportive of these onesies? Thank you?
Speaker 2: Bernie vaccines?
Speaker 9: Are you supportive of these this clothing which is militantly
Speaker 9: anti vaccine? I am supportive of vaccines.
Speaker 12: Well, I want good science and I want to protect
Speaker 12: But you.
Speaker 5: Will not tell the organization you founded not to continue
Speaker 5: selling that product.
Speaker 1: Thank you, bro.
Speaker 2: It's a onesie.
Speaker 1: By the way, if it was militantly opposed, they would
Speaker 1: be puncture proof.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Is this now the thing if you have troubling onesies
Speaker 1: in your past, I mean, Ross, do you have any
Speaker 1: troubling onesies in your family's past with Lincoln? I mean
Speaker 1: anything I need to know because apparently this is a
Speaker 1: no now that you know of. Okay, that's weird. I
Speaker 1: think I had a Duke's a hazard onesie, So I
Speaker 1: s probably pack up all the stuff right because I
Speaker 1: was baby and couldn't not put it on. I think
Speaker 1: there's a picture. I think it's Dukes. It has the
Speaker 1: same color. I don't know, it's been so long since
Speaker 1: I've seen it, but yeah, like this, this is where
Speaker 1: we are. So that's where we were, and then six
Speaker 1: hours later, obviously we're we're dealing with the story literally
Speaker 1: just down the street, a very tragic loss of life there.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm gonna need everyone in DC to adult
Speaker 1: for a few days. Okay, and you can get back
Speaker 1: to the stupidity, but you need to and stop whinding
Speaker 1: about blueberries and smoothies and everything under the sun. Figure out.
Speaker 1: I mean, I understand you got to deal with the
Speaker 1: nominations and go forward, but you're screaming about onesies. Bro,
Speaker 1: And I remember seeing a girl dressed as Sluttie Bernie
Speaker 1: Sanders for Halloween, so I don't want to hear it.
Speaker 2: We'll be back.
Speaker 1: I have a quick intro. The press conference has begun.
Speaker 1: Mary O.
Speaker 2: Bowser, Washington, DC Mayor speaking right now. Let's go to
Speaker 2: it events last night.
Speaker 8: I'm joined by US Transportation Secretary of Sean Duffy, DC
Speaker 8: Fire and the MP's chief John Donnelly, American Airline CEO
Speaker 8: Robert Eisen, the MLONG, the Washington Metropolitan Washington Airport Authority
Speaker 8: CEO Jack Carter, you A United States Senator Mark Warner,
Speaker 8: United States Senator Tim Kine, US Representative uh Don Bayer,
Speaker 8: as well as the treats of the Metropolitan a Police Department.
Speaker 11: Pamela Smith UH. And we are joined.
Speaker 8: By first responders from across the Metropolitan Washington region. I
Speaker 8: speak for all of us when I say it's certainly
Speaker 8: all Washingtonians. How very sad.
Speaker 11: We are, UH, for.
Speaker 8: American Airlines, for the United States Department of Defense, and
Speaker 8: for all Americans for the loss of life that happened
Speaker 8: with the collision of these aircrafts. We know, UH that
Speaker 8: includes families from across our region as well as in
Speaker 8: Kansas and across the country. UH. This morning, we all
Speaker 8: share in the profouncis of Greeed. I do want to
Speaker 8: thank the first responders who acted quickly last night, who
Speaker 8: ran towards danger, went into a very frigid river, and
Speaker 8: have worked throughout the night. Uh. Chief Donnaly reported and
Speaker 8: last night l last night's briefing that we have a
Speaker 8: strong mutual aid agreement in our region and those teams
Speaker 8: have worked together throughout the night and really tough and
Speaker 8: heartbreaking conditions, and we should all thank.
Speaker 11: Them for their heroic affirts.
Speaker 8: So we'll have several updates today. I'm first gonna Chod
Speaker 8: turn to the Secretary of Transportation Sean Duffy, and Uh
Speaker 8: then you will hear directly from achieved John Donnelly with
Speaker 8: a situational updates.
Speaker 2: And just remind her Duffy has literally been on this job.
Speaker 14: And Homer again, Uh shown Duffy here, Uh, Secretary of Transportation.
Speaker 14: Uh we wish uh we were gathering for different purposes.
Speaker 14: Uh today we just won't let you know that.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 14: The the Department of Transportation, the FAA, along with the
Speaker 14: White House, President Trump, local state and federal partners all
Speaker 14: working together on this incident in Unison. I couldn't be
Speaker 14: prouder of this team that's been assembled working tirelessly.
Speaker 11: May want to thank you specifically for your work.
Speaker 14: A few details I'd like to give all of you,
Speaker 14: and some of you reported this, but last night. If
Speaker 14: you live in the DC area, you would know that
Speaker 14: this was a clear night last night.
Speaker 11: The helicopter was in a standard pattern.
Speaker 14: If you live in the DCRE, you'll see helicopters up
Speaker 14: and down the river. This flight pattern is seen oftentimes
Speaker 14: when you live in DC. This was a standard flight
Speaker 14: pattern last night as well. The American Airline flight coming
Speaker 14: into land was in a standard flight pattern as it
Speaker 14: was coming into DCA, So this was not unusual with
Speaker 14: a military aircraft flying the river and aircraft.
Speaker 2: Landing at DCA.
Speaker 14: And again if you live in the area, you'll see
Speaker 14: that equally with those two aircraft working together as you were.
Speaker 14: Many group reported. We have located the two aircrafts. The
Speaker 14: fuselage of the American Airline plane was inverted. It's been
Speaker 14: located in three different sections. It's in about waste deep water.
Speaker 14: So that recovery is going to go on today. As
Speaker 14: that recovery takes place of the of the fuselage of
Speaker 14: the aircraft, NTSB is going to start to analyze that aircraft,
Speaker 14: partner with the FAA with all of the information we
Speaker 14: have to get the best results possible for the American people.
Speaker 11: Would to say that.
Speaker 14: Safety is our expectation. Everyone who flies in American skies
Speaker 14: expects that we fly safely, that when you depart an
Speaker 14: airport you get to your destination.
Speaker 11: That didn't happen last night. And I know the President Trump.
Speaker 14: His administration, the FAA, the DOT we will not rest
Speaker 14: until we have answers for the families and for the
Speaker 14: flying public. You should be assured that when you fly,
Speaker 14: you're safe.
Speaker 1: Thank you all right here as we're going to the
Speaker 1: DC Fire and Rescue cheat.
Speaker 11: Thank you Secretary, Thank you Mayor. I'm joined today by with.
Speaker 4: Fire Chip Bonnet from the Metropopit and Washington Airport's Authority,
Speaker 4: and I'm John Donnelly, chief to the District of Columbia
Speaker 4: Fire and MS Department. Last night, at eight forty eight,
Speaker 4: the control tower sounded an alert which alerts responders to
Speaker 4: respond to a report of an aircraft crash on or
Speaker 4: near the airport. That sets off an immediate response from
Speaker 4: the airport authority, Fire Department from the District of Columbia
Speaker 4: and Metropolitan Harbor Control fireboats and other fireboats on the
Speaker 4: river in order to support that type of operation. Very
Speaker 4: quickly this call escalated. It became the responders realized that
Speaker 4: they had a plane crash and immediately escalated to a
Speaker 4: response that ultimately included about three hundred people. Last night.
Speaker 4: These responders found extremely frigid conditions, they found heavy wind,
Speaker 4: they found ice on the water, and they are operated
Speaker 4: all night in those conditions. I'd like to take a
Speaker 4: moment to acknowledge the agencies that responded, in addition to
Speaker 4: DC Fire and UMS in the Metropropital Washington Airports Authority,
Speaker 4: Montgomery County Fire Department, the Prince George's County Fire Department,
Speaker 4: the Charles County Fire Department, the Baltimore County Police Department,
Speaker 4: the an Arundel County Fire Department, the Alexandria Fire Department,
Speaker 4: the Arlington County Fire Department, the Fairfax Fire Department, the
Speaker 4: Prince William Fire Department, the Baltimore City Police Department, the
Speaker 4: Maryland State Police, the Maryland Natural Resources Police, the Department
Speaker 4: of Defense, the Joint Base in Bowling Fire Department and
Speaker 4: the staff there, the US Army and the US Coast Guard,
Speaker 4: the United States Park Police, the Metropolitan Police Department, the FBI,
Speaker 4: and the NTSP. Despite all those efforts, we are now
Speaker 4: at the point where we are switching from a rescue
Speaker 4: operation to a recovery operation. At this point, we don't
Speaker 4: believe there are any survivors from this.
Speaker 1: Accident, and we have the twenty seven between people from.
Speaker 4: The plane and one from the helicopter. The District Office
Speaker 4: of the Medical Examiner has lead on reuniting these bodies
Speaker 4: and these people with their loved ones, and we will
Speaker 4: continue to work to find all the bodies and collect
Speaker 4: them and reunite them with their loved ones. We should
Speaker 4: also acknowledge that the Virginia Metaical Examiner and the Army
Speaker 4: Medical Examiner are involved in this operation and a very
Speaker 4: important part of getting people identified.
Speaker 2: So here comes the merri again.
Speaker 8: Our hearts are certainly with all of the crew and
Speaker 8: American Airlines, and we'll hear from the CEO.
Speaker 15: I say thank you, Marra, good morning.
Speaker 11: I'm Robert eis from the CEO of American Airlines.
Speaker 15: I want to express my sincere condolences for the accident
Speaker 15: that happened at DCA last night. We're absolutely heartbroken for
Speaker 15: the family and loved ones of the passengers and crew members,
Speaker 15: and also for those that were on the military aircraft.
Speaker 15: Our focus right now is doing everything that we can
Speaker 15: to support all of those involved and also the PSA
Speaker 15: Airlines team.
Speaker 11: This is devastating, it's we are all hurting incredibly.
Speaker 15: We urge any family and friends looking for information about
Speaker 15: their loved ones to call our designative helpline, and that's
Speaker 15: one eight hundred six seven nine eight two one five
Speaker 15: one eight hundred sixty seven nine eight two one five.
Speaker 11: But here's what I can share at this early stage.
Speaker 15: American American Eagle Flight fifty three forty two, operated by
Speaker 15: PSA Airlines, traveling from Wichita, Kansas to Reagan.
Speaker 11: National Airport, was involved in an accident.
Speaker 15: Just before nine pm local time on final approach into
Speaker 15: Reagan National they collided with a military aircraft on an
Speaker 15: otherwise normal approach.
Speaker 11: At this time, we don't know why.
Speaker 15: The military aircraft came into the path of the PSA aircraft.
Speaker 15: Fifty three two a CRJ seven hundred, was under the
Speaker 15: command of four crew members. They carried sixty passengers, as
Speaker 15: you know, for a total of sixty four people on
Speaker 15: board In addition to local resources already here in DC,
Speaker 15: American Analyis has activated our Care Team, and that's a
Speaker 15: group of specialists that are trained to support.
Speaker 11: These types of responses.
Speaker 15: These team members are on site, are arriving soon, and additionally,
Speaker 15: we have members of our Go team that are on
Speaker 15: the ground here in DC and they're being deployed with
Speaker 15: resources to do everything that we can to take care
Speaker 15: of the needs of the families and the loved ones
Speaker 15: of the passengers and crew members, and that is our
Speaker 15: sole focus. We're so grateful for the first responders. They've
Speaker 15: been working through the night courageous efforts. But we're actively
Speaker 15: working with local, state, and federal authorities on emergency response efforts.
Speaker 11: And closely coordating with PSA Airlines.
Speaker 15: As they cooperate fully with the NTSB on the investigation.
Speaker 11: I know that there are many questions that in this
Speaker 11: early stage.
Speaker 1: All rights will go ahead and come out of this.
Speaker 1: So we'll we have it up here and we'll continue
Speaker 1: to watch and see. I wanted to hear from the
Speaker 1: American Airline CEO for two things. One his description of
Speaker 1: it was the black Hawk crossed into the path of
Speaker 1: I don't know that that's official but that is what
Speaker 1: I think a lot of aviation people are thinking. Why
Speaker 1: that happened, We don't know. And I was hoping he'd
Speaker 1: say where the crew was based, because there are many
Speaker 1: many crew members that fly American airlines these regional jets
Speaker 1: that are North Carolina based. I've flown enough of them
Speaker 1: over the years, so we'll keep an eye on that.
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and grab raced Agic from the weather
Speaker 1: Channel and that's you know, weather plays into this. At
Speaker 1: the top of the press conference, they said it was
Speaker 1: an absolutely clear, beautiful night in in d C. And
Speaker 1: and still this happened, so yeah, and.
Speaker 12: Dragging in on that man, but no, a little, a
Speaker 12: little yeah, a little breeze certainly irrelevant now now that
Speaker 12: we heard it. It's a recovery effort. But the Potomac
Speaker 12: thirty six degrees, so yeah, unfortunately, and we was going
Speaker 12: to go downhill to rain tonight, rain probably tomorrow in
Speaker 12: the recovery area, and temperatures will stay a well but freezing,
Speaker 12: so we don't have to worry about any frozen precipitation.
Speaker 12: But the weekend looks like dry weather returns and probably
Speaker 12: dry weather it'sill about the middle of next week. There, So, yeah, unfortunate.
Speaker 12: Doesn't look like whether it's a factor at least at
Speaker 12: this time, Casey, I mean, as you said, it was.
Speaker 1: Clear, So yeah, it was clear, and uh, but where
Speaker 1: the factor is and you and you pointed it out
Speaker 1: is and I kind of stepped on it and I
Speaker 1: didn't mean to. They said that there are still several
Speaker 1: bodies missing from the civilian craft and one from the
Speaker 1: military craft. And so you start stacking rain in there
Speaker 1: with the cold weather, and it does make things more difficult.
Speaker 12: So yeah, it does. Yeah, we'll see some of the
Speaker 12: rain too, not today, tonight, tomorrow, especially tomorrow. The weekend's
Speaker 12: going to look good here as we'll be back in
Speaker 12: the upper fifties, low sixties, warmers days to come though.
Speaker 12: Early next week they see a couple of days we
Speaker 12: get close to seventies, so little rain, but most of
Speaker 12: the next five to seven days is going to be dry, mild.
Speaker 2: All right, thank you, we'll talk in an hour.
Speaker 1: They are now they've now switched over to the politician portion,
Speaker 1: So the first of the Virginia senators, Mark Warner's up there.
Speaker 1: We'll keep an eye and report back in just a
Speaker 1: few and coming up on the show, eight oh five,
Speaker 1: Stephen Kent will join us our NERD correspondent, and we
Speaker 1: have some stories obviously we're going to talk about with him.
Speaker 2: We got some other news stories we're going to get
Speaker 2: to as we're watching this.
Speaker 1: But Stephen wasn't going to be with us today, and
Speaker 1: I'll explain why coming up next here on the CaCO
Speaker 1: Day Radio program. Again, just a visual for you if
Speaker 1: you're driving this morning, if you've ever flown into rain,
Speaker 1: but just you know, just think of it. North to
Speaker 1: south with the Potomac there basically runs north to south.
Speaker 1: Reagan is on the left side, Joint Base Anacosta's on
Speaker 1: the right. This particular approach which is thirty three, which
Speaker 1: if you don't you should be. If you're a pilot,
Speaker 1: you can visualize that or you understand why they label
Speaker 1: them that way. But it is the plane comes in
Speaker 1: in the and it's flying northwest in the direction when
Speaker 1: it lands, so it literally goes, it approaches goes down
Speaker 1: by the Arlington Bridge, Woodrow Wilson Bridge. There you make
Speaker 1: that big turn. I like this approach. You make a
Speaker 1: big turn there, you're flying along the east side of
Speaker 1: the river. You got it, two ninety five down there,
Speaker 1: and then when you make that last final turn so
Speaker 1: that you're pointing northwest, if you're on the right side
Speaker 1: of the aircraft, Like I'm one of these weird people
Speaker 1: who pick sides of the aircraft.
Speaker 2: Because I like windows and stuff.
Speaker 1: But and it's clear you're going to get a glimpse
Speaker 1: of the Jefferson Memorial. Prior to that, you'll see the
Speaker 1: Washington Monument in the distance. It's very cool approach, as
Speaker 1: is the northerly approach there. Reagan is a very unique airport.
Speaker 1: So currently what we were able to learn is that
Speaker 1: they have recovered two of the three military passengers on
Speaker 1: the military aircraft and just twenty seven on the commercial
Speaker 1: and if you remember the souls on board, as they say,
Speaker 1: was sixty four if you include crew, so more than
Speaker 1: half of the people who were on the American Airlines
Speaker 1: flight as of this point are still unrecovered, and multiple
Speaker 1: people have sod we don't expect any survivors. We did
Speaker 1: run a little of that, but they reiterated that several
Speaker 1: times Thursday morning, And obviously, if you've listened to even
Speaker 1: a moment of the show, or been on social media,
Speaker 1: or I don't know, just not been under a rock.
Speaker 1: You realize there is a big story continuing to unfold
Speaker 1: up in DC. We just carried some of the press
Speaker 1: conference there with the mayor and the American Airlines CEO,
Speaker 1: some elected officials, some other bureaucrats, and at this point
Speaker 1: about half the passengers the American Airlines flight have been recovered.
Speaker 1: They don't expect survivors, and two of the three on
Speaker 1: the military aircraft that of course shut down what is
Speaker 1: very busy, albeit one of the smaller airports, but still
Speaker 1: a busy one in a very busy air space surrounded
Speaker 1: by Dallas and BWI, and really one of my favorite airports,
Speaker 1: to be quite honest with you, just because of the
Speaker 1: views you get there. That is expected to reopen at eleven.
Speaker 1: And one of the folks that actually was impacted by
Speaker 1: that because he was supposed to be on a flight
Speaker 1: this morning. He lives in the DC area, as we've mentioned,
Speaker 1: and that is Stephen Kent. Good morning, Stephen. How are
Speaker 1: you doing, sir?
Speaker 3: Good morning? Case doing about as good as we can do.
Speaker 3: It's a weird day in DC.
Speaker 1: Absolutely which time you were flying out of Reagan, right.
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, Yeah, I was headed out of Reagan this
Speaker 3: morning on American Airlines here in just about an hour.
Speaker 3: So I just woke up to this really uncomfortable and
Speaker 3: unsettling news.
Speaker 1: And I'm curious what not, because this is not me
Speaker 1: picking on American I'm just curious. What are they communicated
Speaker 1: to you, as one of the people now who's obviously
Speaker 1: your flight isn't going to leave in an hour because
Speaker 1: they're not real open at eleven. Did they send you,
Speaker 1: guys an email? What did it say or is it
Speaker 1: just standard let's get you rescheduled?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, just just notification of canceled flights overnight while while
Speaker 3: we were all sleeping. So that's That's about the long
Speaker 3: and short of it. You have to call in in
Speaker 3: situations like this to get your your flight rebooked, so
Speaker 3: they don't allow for it to be done online right now.
Speaker 1: Okay, well I wish you were here under better terms, man.
Speaker 8: But.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know this is a this is a bad
Speaker 3: one for DC.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And you you fly a lot, like you're
Speaker 1: you're mister International, You're James Bond going over to Poland
Speaker 1: and stuff, But like, are you are you a comfortable flyer?
Speaker 1: Do you like flying?
Speaker 3: I I am a comfortable flyer. I enjoy it very much.
Speaker 3: And you know, just thinking about the landing on the Potomac,
Speaker 3: it's it's always a it's a it's a side splitting one.
Speaker 3: You start to feel a little bit uncomfortable, and you
Speaker 3: see that river coming in, and you think the plane
Speaker 3: that's going to land in the water every time, and
Speaker 3: my heart just kind of breaks for these these people
Speaker 3: who were at that moment of ah, we made it.
Speaker 1: And and seeing and seeing the light on the Washington
Speaker 1: Monument probably like it's a cool approach for on the
Speaker 1: right side of the aircraft there, so yea, yeah, probably
Speaker 1: taking pictures. I mean, it's just you think about all
Speaker 1: the stuff you do, so I don't want to dwell
Speaker 1: upon it, but I just want to give people a
Speaker 1: sense of kind of how those impacted. Secondarily how that's
Speaker 1: how that's looking for you guys. So all right, well
Speaker 1: let me uh, let me. There's no easy transition here,
Speaker 1: but I do have to get to a few things
Speaker 1: since we have you, one of which is, uh, really
Speaker 1: the net effect of a lot of things we've seen
Speaker 1: with various actors deciding to go ahead and sit down
Speaker 1: and do a little Q and A, and for the
Speaker 1: most part, like we only see the stuff that goes
Speaker 1: horribly right. Really, the fans only see the good stuff.
Speaker 1: You know. To chew that up is you have to
Speaker 1: have somebody say something crazy, or you have to have
Speaker 1: a guy at BlizzCon mock the Diablo developers before you
Speaker 1: go viral. And Anthony Mackie is an actor. I like
Speaker 1: Anthony Mackie, who is the new Captain America, was doing
Speaker 1: a pretty innocuous Q and A. And he made a
Speaker 1: statement the other day and I'm gonna play it and
Speaker 1: immediately Ross is like, oh my gosh, you see this,
Speaker 1: and yeah, here is Mackie talking about his role in
Speaker 1: the New Captain America.
Speaker 11: For to me, Captain.
Speaker 16: America represents a lot of different things, and I don't
Speaker 16: think the term you know, America should be one of
Speaker 16: those representations, Like it's about.
Speaker 1: A man who keeps.
Speaker 16: His word, who has honored dignity and integrity, of someone
Speaker 16: who is trustworthy and dependable.
Speaker 1: You and I think to some extent you might have
Speaker 1: helped me shape the way that I handle this because
Speaker 1: we've had so many of these conversations. I then think,
Speaker 1: have I ever heard Anthony Mackie say really crazy stuff?
Speaker 1: What is and if not does he mean something else.
Speaker 1: I'm having a hard time one. I've never heard him
Speaker 1: say crazy stuff. I like Anthony Mackie. But secondly, I
Speaker 1: don't know how that you'd think that that doesn't sound bad.
Speaker 1: So help me out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I try to be charitable in situations
Speaker 3: like this. I think this is someone who's dealing with
Speaker 3: just a little bit of post election fatigue and disappointment,
Speaker 3: which is fine. It's not a crime or wrong to
Speaker 3: be a Democrat in Hollywood. And what he is saying
Speaker 3: here is America or Captain America is supposed to represent honesty, honor, dignity, integrity,
Speaker 3: and he says that, you know, America doesn't necessarily embody
Speaker 3: all of these things. And this is a pretty boiler
Speaker 3: plate for Captain America as a character. The character since
Speaker 3: its inception has always had to deal with disillusionment, skepticism
Speaker 3: about whoever's empowered any guan time, I'm reminded of Captain
Speaker 3: America one seventy five. This goes back to the Nixon years.
Speaker 3: In nineteen seventy four, Captain America just goes rug and
Speaker 3: becomes this guy named Nomad after he becomes disillusioned with
Speaker 3: what's going on with the US government, and you get
Speaker 3: all the way up to the two thousands and the
Speaker 3: War Hunt Terror era, and similarly, you have the Civil
Speaker 3: War movies where Captain America resists the Superhero Registration Act
Speaker 3: and breaks with the government because they are no longer
Speaker 3: embodying the ideals at which he stands for. So Anthony
Speaker 3: Mackie's saying this, I mean, this is basically election fatigue,
Speaker 3: but it does kind of go to the core of
Speaker 3: who Captain America is as a character. I just I
Speaker 3: just really wish he hadn't said this, because the movies
Speaker 3: had nothing but good press up until this point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's ross and I were talking about this the
Speaker 1: other day. There's reasons some people won't see it Captain
Speaker 1: America Steve Rodgers purist, right, which is, you know, that's
Speaker 1: just that's that's fine, that's that that's a fan thing.
Speaker 2: And then they may not see it on the superhero movies.
Speaker 2: But it's like.
Speaker 1: Marvel is is trying to with the upcoming Avengers continuation.
Speaker 1: They're clearly trying to get back to what got them here,
Speaker 1: and Captain America is one of the you know, the
Speaker 1: series one or the first Fly. What is the term
Speaker 1: I'm looking for the first grouping. Yeah, first Avenger, but
Speaker 1: I mean the first series of movies, the first bundle
Speaker 1: of movies that made them an ungodly sum of money.
Speaker 1: And yeah, that's clearly what they're leaning back into. So
Speaker 1: it's like you you have to separate the ones where
Speaker 1: fans are still like, yes, we really want to see
Speaker 1: them from what they've been fed most recently, which included controversy.
Speaker 1: And this just kind of drags it all along. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it does.
Speaker 3: And his clarifying statement has been quote, let me be
Speaker 3: clear about this. I'm a proud American and taking on
Speaker 3: the shield of a hero is the honor of a lifetime.
Speaker 3: I have respect for those who serve and serve the country.
Speaker 3: And Captain America has universal characteristics that people all around
Speaker 3: the world relate to. I mean, this is obviously true.
Speaker 3: The ideals of Captain America are something that the entire
Speaker 3: world is supposed to look towards. It's just like the
Speaker 3: American flag is meant to be a beacon. But of
Speaker 3: course we have a situation, well a political situation where
Speaker 3: people don't always agree that America is living up to
Speaker 3: its ideals. And you know, we can all agree to
Speaker 3: disagree on that. This is just sort of bad promo
Speaker 3: practices for any movie Hollywood actors, producers. They go out
Speaker 3: and they say things that polarize people. And you know,
Speaker 3: back in the day, he didn't really have this problem
Speaker 3: in the twenty four hour news cycle.
Speaker 1: No, I would agree. And to your point with Captain,
Speaker 1: as you go through the generations, you know, you talk
Speaker 1: about when was the first Captain.
Speaker 2: America comic book? Oh, how far back does that go?
Speaker 1: I don't even I don't even know when he came
Speaker 1: on the scene, but like you're right, he's World World.
Speaker 3: War two, nineteen forty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I didn't know how far after if it
Speaker 1: was actually during. My point is that was the attitude
Speaker 1: of the country for World War Two was very raw,
Speaker 1: rod different. We had the whole period where we're fighting
Speaker 1: the Communists. So Captain America's leaning into that. I understand
Speaker 1: the evolution there. But in each of those instances, would
Speaker 1: it never what it never gave, never yielded, was that
Speaker 1: Captain was the superior model. Right, It's very obviously it's
Speaker 1: very patriotic, the colors the name to everything, even if
Speaker 1: what they were doing messing with Central America or Vietna
Speaker 1: or whatever.
Speaker 2: Maybe wasn't the right thing.
Speaker 1: They still had the they still had the ego with it.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3: Yep, yep, you got to have a little chest bumpery
Speaker 3: there and uh yeah. You know, to say that Captain
Speaker 3: America doesn't necessarily represent America is obviously just a foot
Speaker 3: in mouth moment of epic proportions. What Anthony Mackie should
Speaker 3: have just said is, you know, I'm concerned with the
Speaker 3: trajectory of America. I'm not sure we're living up to
Speaker 3: our ideals, but Captain America obviously represents America.
Speaker 2: Or hey, this is great.
Speaker 1: Uh, I'm glad I'm getting a much bigger paycheck than
Speaker 1: I have for the past movies. How many of these actors, though,
Speaker 1: are worried about it. There's one of the voice actor
Speaker 1: by the name of Hudson Tames Thames Tames, and we
Speaker 1: pronounce it yeah yeah. So he is part of an
Speaker 1: upcoming animated Disney series, Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider Man, and
Speaker 1: he's in an interview so that his biggest fear about
Speaker 1: the project is it would be woke, annoying and woke
Speaker 1: is what he said. Uh, how many actors think that
Speaker 1: because they can see what's happened to the wocust other
Speaker 1: versions of their colleagues. How many think it versus verbalized
Speaker 1: And I'm impressed he verbalized it. I'm sure there's a
Speaker 1: lot of actors who have thought it. They're the ones
Speaker 1: who just do standard press interviews and don't get into
Speaker 1: this stuff.
Speaker 2: Or do you think that?
Speaker 1: Do you think that what's happening politically in our country
Speaker 1: freed this guy up to feel comfortable enough saying that
Speaker 1: and more will maybe behind the scenes try to dewoke
Speaker 1: projects they're on because they want to make money.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think it's not a coincidence that
Speaker 3: Hudson Thames is a pretty young actor thirty years old,
Speaker 3: really represents I think a younger generation that is pretty
Speaker 3: exasperated with a lot of the politicization and wokeness that
Speaker 3: goes on with a lot of Gen X actors and
Speaker 3: older millennials. You know, one of the things that drove
Speaker 3: the Trump election was just noticing that people under the
Speaker 3: age of thirty are are pretty tired of this kind
Speaker 3: of stuff. And it's pretty notable that Hudson James was
Speaker 3: comfortable saying this. Now one of his colleagues, the showrunner
Speaker 3: Jeff Tremmel, who is a kind of an older black guy.
Speaker 3: He mentioned that, you know, I love Hudson, and I'm
Speaker 3: trying not to focus on what he said. I believe
Speaker 3: he misspoke. That's a funny way to put it. I
Speaker 3: believe he misspoke when he said that. Later, Yeah, he
Speaker 3: was pretty clear. I thought this show would be woke
Speaker 3: and lame, and it turns out it wasn't. He didn't
Speaker 3: misspeak at all. And then he's urging the showrunner people
Speaker 3: to still go and give it a shake. So he's
Speaker 3: basically saying that leftists on Twitter are angry about this.
Speaker 3: But here's the thing, Casey, a spider Man show, the
Speaker 3: Friendly Neighborhood spider Man and cartoon on Disney Plus is
Speaker 3: not going to succeed or fail based on adults on
Speaker 3: Twitter being angry or happy about a show. A spider
Speaker 3: Man animated series is going to succeed if people under
Speaker 3: the age of fifteen, also known as children, happen to
Speaker 3: get on Disney Plus, watch the show randomly tell their
Speaker 3: friends it's awesome, and then they all watch it organically.
Speaker 3: These shows are so driven in the press cycle by
Speaker 3: the opinions of adults, and they don't matter. They are
Speaker 3: the minority of the audience. It has to appeal to
Speaker 3: kids organically, and so I think we get often, like
Speaker 3: very derailed on adult conversations about the politics of movies.
Speaker 3: Kids either think it's lame or they think it's awesome.
Speaker 3: And we'll see if Friendly Spider Man is actually enjoyable.
Speaker 1: Well. And obviously parents to some extent who pay very
Speaker 1: close attention also pay attention to the news cycle. But
Speaker 1: you're right, your eight year old doesn't give a crap Jesus,
Speaker 1: like this is cool or it ain't cool.
Speaker 3: No, And it reminds me of when I was chaperoning
Speaker 3: kids at the boy Scout camp I go and do
Speaker 3: work at over the summer, and you know, all the
Speaker 3: kids at the Gaga ball pit, we're all just sort
Speaker 3: of laughing about the state of Star Wars and like, hey,
Speaker 3: have you seen like the New Acolytes show. No, no, no,
Speaker 3: I'm not watching that. Dah dah dad, I'm watching this.
Speaker 3: And all the kids are watching anime, right, They're just
Speaker 3: talking about anime and one Piece and what's going on
Speaker 3: on YouTube, and they're just sort of knee slapping over
Speaker 3: the state of Star Wars because nobody cares. It's just
Speaker 3: adults yelling at each other about the state of this
Speaker 3: old ip and I love Star Wars, but you know,
Speaker 3: kids are going to do their own thing independent of
Speaker 3: who's happy and who's mad.
Speaker 1: On Twitter Ubisoft, this is when we're looking for tales
Speaker 1: of you know, changing changing landscape. Obviously, video games get
Speaker 1: a lot of discussion, and now the video game studio
Speaker 1: says it will laugh one hundred and eighty five staff
Speaker 1: speaking of Star Wars, that was one of their big misses.
Speaker 1: They've had a few, but they've had a lot of
Speaker 1: success too, So how quickly the tables have turned?
Speaker 2: Here? What's going on with this?
Speaker 1: Is it just a restructuring a summer saying, or is
Speaker 1: this this is going to be something we're going to
Speaker 1: see a few more times.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm really curious what you think on this
Speaker 3: one casey, but to me, this looks like there's going
Speaker 3: to be a private sector wave and I think Meta
Speaker 3: and Facebook was sort of leading the way on this
Speaker 3: where everybody feels a little bit more comfortable with the
Speaker 3: political wins changing and pressure from Washington d C alleviating
Speaker 3: in the election of Donald Trump, and sort of the
Speaker 3: new attacks on DEI infrastructures to do things like say,
Speaker 3: oh my god, we have one hundred and eighty five
Speaker 3: useless people at this company who we hired to check
Speaker 3: boxes and do nothing except change the hair color of
Speaker 3: our characters when we put them into our video games.
Speaker 3: And we're going to tighten our belt until we actually
Speaker 3: make money. I think we're going to see a return
Speaker 3: a lot of companies towards making money and moving away
Speaker 3: from sort of an ESG mindset where they're supposed to
Speaker 3: be socially responsible versus be raw capitalist profitable ventures. That's
Speaker 3: what I'm seeing here, But it just really comes out
Speaker 3: of Ubisoft producing one failure of a game after another.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we don't have time to get into it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I take the same approach on everything as like yesterday,
Speaker 1: Netflix is doing Little House on the Prairie. I'm so nervous,
Speaker 1: and I know a lot of our folks are, and
Speaker 1: I'll get into more of that ten seconds. Should we
Speaker 1: be nervous or patiently wait and see?
Speaker 3: It's always patiently wait and see. Don't get caught up
Speaker 3: in the negative hype cycles. Enjoy your life, watch shows
Speaker 3: and soucide for yourself.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Steven Kent, appreciate it. Thank you for
Speaker 1: joining us this morning. We'll talk soon, sir.
Speaker 3: Take care.
Speaker 1: All right, There you go Stephen Kent with NERD News
Speaker 1: and obviously an update from DC that he's dealing with.
Speaker 1: So we really appreciate that and we'll be back. How
Speaker 1: many of you loved you? Some little house on the prairie,
Speaker 1: some Michael landing back in the day. I don't know
Speaker 1: why there's still for some reason in my mind I
Speaker 1: can there's like I have a really weird photographic memory
Speaker 1: that sometimes is really good at stuff and most of
Speaker 1: the times is cluttering. Somebody would We had a guy
Speaker 1: who was like, was complimenting, complimenting me on describing that
Speaker 1: landing at Reagan. If it's if it's a navigation, I
Speaker 1: can go somewhere some like one time, and I can
Speaker 1: get myself back there and it doesn't even have to
Speaker 1: be in this country, could be in any country. It's
Speaker 1: just I don't know. I don't know why that is.
Speaker 1: And so I happen to be a window sitter on
Speaker 1: a plane, so like my brain knows the approaches at
Speaker 1: airports I've flown into several times I can tell you
Speaker 1: all the Raleigh approaches, obviously, and the Miami ones, and
Speaker 1: I like pick to see which ones I like. I
Speaker 1: can't remember people's names. I meet him three minus minutes ago,
Speaker 1: so but I remember one of my I just just
Speaker 1: dawned upon me. I remember because we had reader digest
Speaker 1: in the house that I remember for a long time.
Speaker 1: We had one, you know, in the bathroom you got
Speaker 1: the little bucket with the magazines. Back in the day
Speaker 1: before phones. There was a copy with Michael Landon on
Speaker 1: the cover that sat in there forever. I don't know
Speaker 1: why I remember that, but I do, you know, in
Speaker 1: his Little House on the Prairie, get up. Unfortunately, this
Speaker 1: is how the press release reads. Little House on the Prairie,
Speaker 1: A reimagining of the Laura Ingalls Wilder book series.
Speaker 2: Is coming to Netflix.
Speaker 1: Part family drama, part survival tale, and part origin story,
Speaker 1: the series will offer a kaleidoscope view of the struggles
Speaker 1: and triumphs of those who shaped the American West. Now
Speaker 1: was the interactions between settlers and let's say, natives or
Speaker 1: soldiers even, you know, a lot of people don't realize
Speaker 1: that there was a lot of shenanigans with soldiers that
Speaker 1: we had out there in their interactions, like they could
Speaker 1: be conscripted or bought for mercenary purposes, and some ranchers
Speaker 1: would hire soldiers to go and hurt other ranchers or
Speaker 1: hurt their livestock and stuff. There's a lot of crazy,
Speaker 1: serious stories that obviously weren't part of it because That's
Speaker 1: Little House on the Prairie was a drama targeted a
Speaker 1: families and there were a lot of relatable things, even
Speaker 1: if you've never donned a bonnet hat in the middle
Speaker 1: of you know, the prairie prior to the dust Bowl
Speaker 1: and everything that they had to deal with, it wasn't
Speaker 1: about that. It was in the same way The Waltons
Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily about the era it was set. Annie Griffiths Show.
Speaker 1: We see it that we see that retroactively, but well
Speaker 1: Annie Griffith Show really took place kind of a very similar,
Speaker 1: closer timeline, but like it wasn't about all of that.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately though, it means that a lot of the interactions
Speaker 1: are not historically accurate, but there wasn't an expect for
Speaker 1: them to be. And so that's where I wonder, well,
Speaker 1: what are you going to do? How do you keep
Speaker 1: this a family appointment. It was appointment watching had less options.
Speaker 1: But still Little House on the Prairie was immensely popular.
Speaker 1: In fact, I called let me grab this. I called
Speaker 1: up literally the uh oh oh, where here we go?
Speaker 2: A Little House on the Prairie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when it first aired, actually just cracked the top
Speaker 1: twenty five. And then year after year it gets more
Speaker 1: and more, all right, So yeah, I mean, this was
Speaker 1: an immensely popular show. However, I'm just on the cusp
Speaker 1: of remembering Little House on the Prairie. So if you're
Speaker 1: under the age of forty, I'm sure you don't remember
Speaker 1: it much at all, so I guess you have nothing
Speaker 1: to base it against. But yeah, that's I just want
Speaker 1: to give you the full rundown there. It doesn't have
Speaker 1: necessarily a timeline on this, but I can see why
Speaker 1: people are wondering, oh my gosh, what's well Hollywood going
Speaker 1: to do to this?
Speaker 2: How dare you?
Speaker 1: You didn't even necessarily think it was a sacred calf
Speaker 1: until now, But who knows. Maybe they get something up
Speaker 1: there that's enjoyable, not too far deviated. And most importantly,
Speaker 1: you you can't break up that family dynamic. Man, I
Speaker 1: have to think they won't. But it was the core
Speaker 1: component of the show. It was look out the family
Speaker 1: that is strong in the face of adversity, which settlers
Speaker 1: fet my own family faced, getting in a wagon and
Speaker 1: going to Wyoming where they hadn't even fully established Fort
Speaker 1: Phil Carney's surveillance, if you will, or where they would
Speaker 1: go around to make sure that there weren't skirmishes with
Speaker 1: natives there.
Speaker 2: Like, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: I remember growing up there. I'm like, this is nuts,
Speaker 1: this is great what you came out here and none
Speaker 1: of this was here except people who really the crow
Speaker 1: were very aggressive along that portion of the Bozeman Trail.
Speaker 1: That's why they established those bases. That's why you have
Speaker 1: the the you know fort Whatever's along there, which by
Speaker 1: that was the base Custer came out of.
Speaker 2: Like you said, there was some stuff going on.
Speaker 1: But but with with with family and love and yes
Speaker 1: even religion, which was portraying that show, you you could
Speaker 1: overcome the adversity. That was this insane decision that that
Speaker 1: people made.
Speaker 2: So I really hope they stick with it.
Speaker 1: Oh what is this? Have you watched American Prize? Yes,
Speaker 1: I have watched American Prime Evil. I am down with that.
Speaker 1: I'm still I don't know. I just haven't talked about
Speaker 1: it in the areaet I got a I got a
Speaker 1: weird range for stuff. All right, let me hit a
Speaker 1: few other things. Go back over your one house, a
Speaker 1: little house on the prairie. I will tell you this.
Speaker 1: I saw this clip yesterday, thought this was incredibly interesting.
Speaker 1: So the former president of Kenya is speaking, and they've
Speaker 1: got a bunch of different African leaders, both current and former,
Speaker 1: at this gathering there, and he actually did this in English,
Speaker 1: and he's talking about what is everyone's been talking about,
Speaker 1: and that is the funding freeze, the funding pause, because
Speaker 1: there is almost not a nation in Africa that doesn't
Speaker 1: receive some sort of financial assistance or partnership with the
Speaker 1: United States. And most of the leaders were whining and
Speaker 1: moaning and complaining over this, and then this dude gets
Speaker 1: up and let me tell you, Yeah, I'm not an isolationist,
Speaker 1: not at all. I think that there are way too
Speaker 1: many things were involved in doing you know, fifty four
Speaker 1: million to Burma for I don't even know what that
Speaker 1: was for, essentially for college or something. But there are
Speaker 1: a lot of things that make sense, and strategic alliances
Speaker 1: and partnerships are important, and I think that the Trump
Speaker 1: administration understands. I don't think they're isolationists, but these are
Speaker 1: the kinds of world leaders that if it makes sense
Speaker 1: for the benefit of America and for their country for
Speaker 1: us to have strategic partnerships, to have trade deals that
Speaker 1: are more favorable than others.
Speaker 2: I don't have a problem with it.
Speaker 1: And that's what we want, and it was good to
Speaker 1: see somebody who gets it in a room of people
Speaker 1: complaining about it.
Speaker 17: People the other day crying, Oh, I don't know. Trump
Speaker 17: has removed money. He said he's not giving us any
Speaker 17: more money.
Speaker 1: Why are you crying?
Speaker 18: Is not your government, is not your country.
Speaker 1: He's giving some applause too.
Speaker 18: He has he has no he has no reason to
Speaker 18: to give you anything. I mean, hey, you don't pay
Speaker 18: taxes in America. He's appealing to his people, should he
Speaker 18: any one? This is a wake up call for you
Speaker 18: to say, Okay, what are we going to do.
Speaker 2: To help ourselves?
Speaker 18: Instead of crying to to to you, Liza, what are
Speaker 18: we going to do?
Speaker 8: Hi?
Speaker 18: Am a true are you?
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna Jamin?
Speaker 18: What are we going to do?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 18: To support ourselves because nobody is going to continue holding
Speaker 18: out a hand there to give you.
Speaker 17: It is time for us to use.
Speaker 18: Our resources for the right things.
Speaker 17: We are the ones who are using them for the
Speaker 17: wrong things.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, And there's there's so much complex there.
Speaker 1: I don't pretend to fully understand it. You have Chinese
Speaker 1: exploitation with a lot of these companies. It's pretty crazy,
Speaker 1: but that's true. And it actually speaks to the larger
Speaker 1: philosophy of setting up welfare that is so high that
Speaker 1: it doesn't incentivize people to who can go out and work,
Speaker 1: create safety nets that ever increase so that we have
Speaker 1: the highest state of welfare. If you're on welfare in
Speaker 1: the United States, you are richer and make more money
Speaker 1: than almost every country in the world. To think about that,
Speaker 1: and it de incentivizes people. And so I'm good on this, dude.
Speaker 1: He's absolutely right, And shame on only about a third
Speaker 1: and half of the room applauding them. So you know,
Speaker 1: it's like the money is all going to dry up.
Speaker 1: There's going to be programs and there are countries strategically
Speaker 1: in Africa that we partner with for a variety of reasons,
Speaker 1: whether it's bases, could you know, terrorism concerns, shipping right
Speaker 1: with Egypt and also shipping lanes further down that are
Speaker 1: controlled in many cases by things like HOOTI rebels or
Speaker 1: some only pirates, So good on him. All right, let's
Speaker 1: get ray stage. You can hear from the weather channel.
Speaker 5: And.
Speaker 1: We're looking forward to those higher temps. I like that
Speaker 1: you're snagging around the weekend. Unfortunately, there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: little rain in here, so let's figure out the timeline
Speaker 1: so we can plan accordingly.
Speaker 12: So yeah, yeah, I mean, and then I look back,
Speaker 12: yesterday wasn't terrible. Try ed sixty nine and Raleigh. It
Speaker 12: was seventy two, not records, it's mid upper seventies. But
Speaker 12: the message has been this week it's been much milder,
Speaker 12: has been much pre sip, and over the next seven
Speaker 12: days there won't and it's going to get maybe a
Speaker 12: little bit milder into early next weeks.
Speaker 1: So clouds will continue to.
Speaker 12: Increase today upper fifties, low sixties, and tonight and tomorrow's
Speaker 12: the best chance of showers.
Speaker 1: I think it's later.
Speaker 12: Tomorrow's to get into the afternoon towards dinner time, so
Speaker 12: your Friday evening could be impacted, might be a little
Speaker 12: bit warmer, we're low to mid seventies tomorrow, so we'll
Speaker 12: see how close we get to records, and then over
Speaker 12: the weekend we kind of take it down. After this
Speaker 12: low pressure system passes Saturday Sunday, still lots of sunshine,
Speaker 12: close to sixty. You'll probably be on either side of
Speaker 12: sixty Saturday, depende of where you are. Load to mid
Speaker 12: fifties on Sunday, and then back close to seventy or
Speaker 12: above early next week through midwek next week. No precipitation
Speaker 12: at above average tempertures even the nighttime low's case are
Speaker 12: going to be in the forties. So pretty good run
Speaker 12: a weather coming up here.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, appreciate it. Well, chat tomorrow, sir, have
Speaker 1: a good one.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: We'll come back with Jeff Bellinger next. Hang on, Jeff,
Speaker 1: what's going on? Is this DC situation making any ways
Speaker 1: for you guys this morning?
Speaker 13: Well, it's the people on our DC bureau have been
Speaker 13: at the scene all night. They've been covering this from
Speaker 13: the start, and as far as business is concerned, American
Speaker 13: airline shares or under some pressure pre market. We got
Speaker 13: word in the last hour that Reagan Airport will reopen
Speaker 13: at eleven o'clock this morning, but people flying into d
Speaker 13: C are still advised to check with their carriers. It
Speaker 13: turns out the economy slowed more than expected at the
Speaker 13: end of last year. The government says the gross domestic
Speaker 13: product expanded at an annual rate of two point three
Speaker 13: percent in the fourth quarter, compared to three point one
Speaker 13: percent in the third quarter. Economists were looking for a
Speaker 13: growth rate of two point six percent. New claims for
Speaker 13: unemployment benefits fell sharply two hundred seven thousand last week.
Speaker 13: Two hundred twenty three thousand first time applications were counted.
Speaker 2: The prior week.
Speaker 13: Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell indicated it could be some
Speaker 13: time before the Central Bank makes the next change in
Speaker 13: interest rates. Powell said the Fed needs to evaluate President
Speaker 13: Trump's policies and their impact on the economy. The Fed's
Speaker 13: announcement in Powell's comments did cost some volatility on Wall
Speaker 13: Street yesterday. The major averages all lost ground, but they
Speaker 13: closed off their session lows. At the moment, the futures
Speaker 13: are mixed. S and P and Nasdaq futures are a
Speaker 13: little bit higher than Dow futures are a bit lower.
Speaker 13: Starbucks shares rose eight percent yesterday, after the coffee company
Speaker 13: posted orderly results that were not as bad as feared,
Speaker 13: investors gave a vote of confidence to CEO Brian Nichols
Speaker 13: turnaround plan. Tesla's fourth quarter profit fell short Wall Street estimates,
Speaker 13: but shares of the electric carmaker rose, and after hours trading,
Speaker 13: CEO Elon Musk told investors advances and vehicle autonomy and
Speaker 13: new models will lead to an epic period of growth
Speaker 13: for the company. Another bullish CEO, as Mark Zuckerberg. He
Speaker 13: predicted twenty twenty five will be a really big year
Speaker 13: for meta platforms. Shares of United Parcel Service under considerable
Speaker 13: pressure pre market. UPS posted fourth quarter revenue that was
Speaker 13: in line with estimates and its profit top forecasts, but
Speaker 13: the company's twenty twenty five guidance fell well short of expectations.
Speaker 13: A major customer, thought to be Amazon dot Com, is
Speaker 13: going to cut back sharply in the second half of
Speaker 13: the year, and UPS says other customers are trading down
Speaker 13: from premium services to economy delivery.
Speaker 1: Casey, all right, Jeff, do appreciate, And yeah, I saw
Speaker 1: the CEO at the press conference there of American airlines,
Speaker 1: so lots to get to them.
Speaker 2: We'll stay tuned, thank you very much.
Speaker 13: Okay, well, okay, Also, yeah, a lot of the officials
Speaker 13: too in charge from the government are all new to
Speaker 13: their offices, so this is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we talked about that.
Speaker 1: The Transportation secretary is literally less like hours hours. So
Speaker 1: let's hope they all stop, you know, being that for
Speaker 1: a minute and just all work together.
Speaker 18: Man.
Speaker 1: So yes, absolutely, all right, thank you, Jeff, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: And there is let's see here, there is one story,
Speaker 1: one more story on this. The likelyhood from the reporting
Speaker 1: I'm seeing is that many of the passengers are figure
Speaker 1: skaters or families or coaches of figure skaters. And we
Speaker 1: know this because and the imagine the survivors guild. This
Speaker 1: guy is going to be dealing with and I hope
Speaker 1: he's got people around him if it hits him. John Meravilla,
Speaker 1: an American figure skater, actually was supposed to be on
Speaker 1: that flight. He was not. He was denied boarding because
Speaker 1: his dog was too big. So he had a dog
Speaker 1: he thought was And the problem is with that particular
Speaker 1: aircraft is it's so small. If you've ever flown on
Speaker 1: one of those seven hundreds, like there's there's not even
Speaker 1: if you're in business class, finding bin space can be
Speaker 1: a problem, and the slot under the seat is smaller.
Speaker 1: It's just it's that tiny. So it's a gate check
Speaker 1: of Paloosa.
Speaker 2: In fact, I.
Speaker 1: Flew when I flew Greensboro to d C a few
Speaker 1: months ago, it was that was un a United, but
Speaker 1: it was the same type of aircraft, and they just
Speaker 1: they just said were gate checking everybody. Everybody's getting gate
Speaker 1: checked unless you had a business ticket. I did not, so,
Speaker 1: And I point this out because sometimes even what is
Speaker 1: a legal size, if something doesn't work on a seven hundred.
Speaker 1: So in this case, he had a dog that probably
Speaker 1: if he was on a three, seven, eight hundred or
Speaker 1: nine hundred max would have been fine. But since he's
Speaker 1: on this small one, they said, well, your dog's too big. Well,
Speaker 1: unlike that weirdo who went and flushed her Gerbil down
Speaker 1: the drain that one day, this guy, he thought about
Speaker 1: booking a different flight. He ended up renting a car
Speaker 1: and driving fourteen hours