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Speaker 1: thing that we're going to do, as I promised, is
Speaker 1: Dave McGowan's Program to Kill, an excellent book. I actually
Speaker 1: did read it, see my notes as proof. So we're
Speaker 1: going to talk about the alternate theories that are possible
Speaker 1: when it comes to so called serial killers. And this
Speaker 1: is what Dave McAllan presents in the book is a
Speaker 1: different thesis as to how it is and why it is.
Speaker 1: There was this explosion, you know, post Manson into the
Speaker 1: seventies and eighties of the serial killer phenomenon, which then
Speaker 1: seemed to transition in the nineties into movies at Hollywood,
Speaker 1: and it became a Hollywood thing, and you had all
Speaker 1: these serial killer obsessed film theories and plots. You had
Speaker 1: all of these serial killer plots, But where were all
Speaker 1: the actual serial killers right from the nineties on into today.
Speaker 1: Not that many that we hear about at least in
Speaker 1: the news, right, So where did all the serial killers go? Well,
Speaker 1: Dave's going to give his analysis of several of the
Speaker 1: important serial killers from the last several years and what
Speaker 1: was probably going on with these guys. What Dave's going
Speaker 1: to do is offer a lot of alternative evidence that
Speaker 1: is a ignored by mainstream media is and maybe the
Speaker 1: standard stories that you hear about these serial killers. And
Speaker 1: we're also going to get into the MK Ultra project
Speaker 1: and its potential connection to the Phoenix program, which is
Speaker 1: also a book by Doug Valentine that we will probably
Speaker 1: discuss in the near future as well. But for Dave's thesis,
Speaker 1: what he's going to propose is that when you look
Speaker 1: at the military connections of the MK Ulture program, and
Speaker 1: this was, of course the programs throughout the forties and
Speaker 1: fifties and sixties that were known for experimentation into hypnosis,
Speaker 1: experimentation into truth serums, the stuff that you've probably seen
Speaker 1: in movies and films. But the real research, of course
Speaker 1: has been dubbed into pretty in depth by other writers
Speaker 1: like John Marx and his book The Search for the
Speaker 1: Mentoring Canada, and we've covered that book at Jays Analysis
Speaker 1: Dave's book Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon, the Laurel Can Scene,
Speaker 1: we've covered that as well, and that deals with the
Speaker 1: MK Ultra and of course this book is going to
Speaker 1: deal with it. And what he's going to propose is
Speaker 1: that because of these many military connections, and in fact
Speaker 1: that many of the top serial killers had these military
Speaker 1: intelligence and CIA type connections contract killer connections, that there's
Speaker 1: a good possibility that we can look back to something
Speaker 1: like the Phoenix program and see that that was probably
Speaker 1: connected to the MK Ulture program, and then by extension,
Speaker 1: that the serial killer phenomenon might have actually been a
Speaker 1: US domestic manifestation of perhaps these guys coming back from
Speaker 1: their overseas service or being programmed at various clinics through
Speaker 1: what we see with doctor Ewan Cameron and the MK
Speaker 1: Ultra programs, Jose Delgado, Jolly and West. All these figures
Speaker 1: that we've seen so long in so called conspiracy circles
Speaker 1: be mentioned, but are actually really and truthfully doctor's psychiatrists
Speaker 1: right who were running the real in culture programs. So
Speaker 1: that's the beginning setting for what Dave's writing about. And
Speaker 1: this is two thousand and four, so this is prior
Speaker 1: to things like the BTK killer. So that's another guy,
Speaker 1: by the way, who is not in Dave's book, but
Speaker 1: had this pedigree of military and killer type, you know background,
Speaker 1: And that's really I think it makes a lot more
Speaker 1: sense than the home grown killer, which is what we're
Speaker 1: taught is really going on with people like Manson or
Speaker 1: these kind of characters that they're there these just random
Speaker 1: products of a bat upbringing or abuse or something like this.
Speaker 1: And another aspect to this that the mainstream media rarely touches,
Speaker 1: except maybe in the Manson case I'll kind of talk
Speaker 1: a little bit about cults, is that Dave's going to
Speaker 1: die pretty deep into research done by other characters like
Speaker 1: Maury Terry in The Ultimate Evil, that maybe there were
Speaker 1: actually more powerful networks and cults in the background behind
Speaker 1: people like Berkowitz, people like Henry Lee Lucas, people like
Speaker 1: Richard Ramirez, the Knights Talker, and Manson, right, something beyond
Speaker 1: the processed church. Even I'm not just talking about a cult.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, you know, people with kind of these
Speaker 1: deep state, dark black side of the black ops world, right,
Speaker 1: who have a vested interest in maybe using someone like
Speaker 1: a psychopathic killer in the case where you might need
Speaker 1: to have a professional contract killer can have somebody oft
Speaker 1: And Dave's thesis is going to be, of course, in
Speaker 1: part that maybe what happens in some of these cases,
Speaker 1: and he's going to give us some evidence. It's not
Speaker 1: just thesis, but if police have, say an unsolved crime
Speaker 1: in certain districts, right, he's not saying is everywhere in
Speaker 1: every police district in the US. He's just saying in
Speaker 1: certain states where you've had the problem of the so
Speaker 1: called serial killers, which tends to be for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: probably connected to Mexico and drugs and whatnot. Florida, Texas
Speaker 1: and California are the main regions where these serial killers
Speaker 1: just pop up. And you know, obviously California is like
Speaker 1: a big one, right You have a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: serial killers that have had their reign of terror all
Speaker 1: right out in California. So the first thing though that
Speaker 1: he sets it up is the whole idea of the
Speaker 1: pedophiles and government, which is interesting because Dave is no
Speaker 1: longer around, unfortunately, but in two thousand and four he
Speaker 1: was writing about this tendency of these siicos and Satanist
Speaker 1: and pedophiles who do seem to occupy, you know, the
Speaker 1: important levers of power in various states and in various
Speaker 1: corporations and so forth. So that's where he sees that
Speaker 1: being connected, because it's kind of a he's painting a
Speaker 1: picture of the cultural decline that's also related to the
Speaker 1: rise of the serial killers. Right, you have the sixties revolution, which,
Speaker 1: in weird scenes inside Laurel Kenyon, he argued, was really
Speaker 1: fostered and aided and abetted by the establishment, Right, Like,
Speaker 1: these characters were given record deals that were given a
Speaker 1: lot of promotion, a lot of attention. So that suggests
Speaker 1: that there was some degree of coordination that they were
Speaker 1: propelled to stardom the specific Laurel Kenyon people, like the Doors,
Speaker 1: Mamas and Papas, etc. For a reason. And so in
Speaker 1: the same way, he's going to point out the odd
Speaker 1: connections behind a lot of the serial killers, right in
Speaker 1: a similar way to how many of the Laurel Kenyon
Speaker 1: bands and so called artists had all these deep state
Speaker 1: military family, military intelligence connections. In the same way, Dave's
Speaker 1: going to say that a lot of these serial killers
Speaker 1: seem to have the same pattern, and that fits with
Speaker 1: the idea, with the notion that they would have been
Speaker 1: part of, as we said, perhaps the Phoenix program or
Speaker 1: something akin to it, or something like the Mkulture program. Right,
Speaker 1: we think of Ted Kazinski. You know, he had a
Speaker 1: stint where he volunteered at Harvard to participate in mk
Speaker 1: ultra experiments. That was actually in his obituary in I
Speaker 1: believe the LA Times or New York Times. You can
Speaker 1: go look that up. But yes, he was actually a
Speaker 1: willing participant in mkulture research. So if you're wondering why
Speaker 1: you get this sort of crazy guy out in the
Speaker 1: woods who's warning of the tech takeover, you know, a
Speaker 1: long time ago, and we're told that he's the one
Speaker 1: who's who's bombing the you know, maybe actually I'll do
Speaker 1: my the Uni Bomber. I was actually thinking about doing
Speaker 1: a full unibrow and then I would have called it
Speaker 1: the unibrow Bomber. I may still do that skit. That
Speaker 1: sounds like a lot of fun. But remember these pictures
Speaker 1: that you saw of this guy in the nineties and
Speaker 1: he would just be like like up on the TV
Speaker 1: and they're saying, oh, that's the unibomber, and he he
Speaker 1: we know because he sends in you know, these bombs
Speaker 1: and he's gonna bomb all these planes. That sounds like
Speaker 1: a bunch of bullshit to me, But who knows. Maybe
Speaker 1: this guy was really really just totally off his rocker,
Speaker 1: or maybe he was just living off the grid and
Speaker 1: they chose a patsy. But that's gonna be another theme, right,
Speaker 1: the unral Unibomber Report. That's gonna be another theme in
Speaker 1: Dave's book is the idea of when the police departments
Speaker 1: are needing to clear up some unsolved cases, maybe they
Speaker 1: stack them onto the so called serial killer or the
Speaker 1: professional hit killer and then voila. Right, serial killer X
Speaker 1: y Z with three names. It's always three names. Bobby
Speaker 1: Lee Long, Right, he's got two hundred kills, which is
Speaker 1: hard to believe, But maybe some of those were actually
Speaker 1: just stacked on unsolved crimes. The other important aspect to
Speaker 1: what Dave talks about is the notion of the serial
Speaker 1: killer phenomenon being social engineering, that what it had a
Speaker 1: tendency to do was make everybody very very afraid of
Speaker 1: public venues or going out or letting your kids play
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff, and that it adomized society because
Speaker 1: everybody got this false impression which wasn't actually true. That
Speaker 1: there were millions of serial killers out there everywhere, right,
Speaker 1: millions of unibombers everywhere. Right. It's kind of the same
Speaker 1: with the war on terror, right, it's domestic version of this,
Speaker 1: that's there's just these psychos just everywhere. And that's not
Speaker 1: actually true. Right. There are certain cases where this appears
Speaker 1: to be the be true, and these people oftentimes have
Speaker 1: these very strange connections to you know, hardcore military killer
Speaker 1: family members, et cetera. Maybe they trained them, or they
Speaker 1: were involved in some sort of cult activity. So stop
Speaker 1: being the unibomber there. So maybe you know, in a
Speaker 1: lot of these cases, we see that the serial killers
Speaker 1: happened to be multiple personality people. And what's neat is
Speaker 1: that Dave notes that the chief deniers of multiple personality
Speaker 1: disassociated identity disorder were actually the CIA people who were
Speaker 1: at the False Memory Syndrome Foundation, which is a CIA
Speaker 1: funded disinformation outlet that was intended to debunk any idea
Speaker 1: of ritual abuse. And then so the FBI and these
Speaker 1: different law enforcement entities would go to these experts who
Speaker 1: would then tell them, ohth there's no such thing as
Speaker 1: the satanic ritual abuse. That's all made up, right, So
Speaker 1: that that's just made up right, a's sensationalism and there's
Speaker 1: no real networks or ritual abuse or something like that.
Speaker 1: So Dave covers all that which is really interesting. And
Speaker 1: this is, of course, I think what I may start
Speaker 1: to hon is, instead of the full hour, you know,
Speaker 1: do these fifteen minutes summaries, because people are a lot
Speaker 1: more willing to share fifteen minute things than they are
Speaker 1: forty five minute, one hour things, which for the listeners
Speaker 1: you're still going to get. The subscribers, you're still going
Speaker 1: to get the full experience, where we will talk about
Speaker 1: the totality of the book in the review and the analysis,
Speaker 1: and of course I'm always going to recommend that people
Speaker 1: go by the actual book. My analysis and review is
Speaker 1: not a substitute. Is just a survey in the same
Speaker 1: way that we might discuss any work of literature or
Speaker 1: something like that. So you're going to see that a
Speaker 1: lot of these serial killers have high level political connections.
Speaker 1: Why would that be? Why would Rosalind Carter write the
Speaker 1: first Lady be meeting with John Wayne Gacy? Right? And
Speaker 1: this is like photos of this This is a famous
Speaker 1: picture which I didn't know about until I heard Dave
Speaker 1: get some interviews and talk about book. And then when
Speaker 1: I read the book, I was just like, you can
Speaker 1: find this online. Why would Ted Bundy be, you know,
Speaker 1: working adamantly for the Nelson Rockefeller campaign. Right, he's very interested.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that he was new him per se.
Speaker 1: I don't know about that, but you know, why is
Speaker 1: he kind of this rising the GOP guy? Right? And
Speaker 1: Dave's talked about that a lot in interviews. So we're
Speaker 1: going to see a lot of cults are going to
Speaker 1: tie into mobs and this is something I've talked about
Speaker 1: a lot of jays analysis. And they're going to tie
Speaker 1: into intelligence agencies. And then so we're starting to see
Speaker 1: the architecture of the criminal networks and how they work
Speaker 1: and the power structure, how it works and so forth.
Speaker 1: Now they use these people and what they do is
Speaker 1: they will profile for the psychos and then a psycho
Speaker 1: is useful? Right? What can we do with this psycho guy? Right?
Speaker 1: How what use would Manson perhaps be, what use would
Speaker 1: Berkowitz perhaps be? So the psychos are put to the
Speaker 1: system's use, right, And that's not to say that that
Speaker 1: there aren't psychos. They are. You see, these are the
Speaker 1: people who actually were abused. A lot of them were
Speaker 1: child prostitutes. They were prostituted out, they were molested. A
Speaker 1: lot of them their parents their mom was a prostitute,
Speaker 1: and who would like make them watch in the case
Speaker 1: of Henry Lee Lucas, and so obviously this guy's damaged, right,
Speaker 1: So that's what's happened to a lot of these guys.
Speaker 1: And then they become dissociated, right, they have these alternate states,
Speaker 1: and even Dave is it willing to kind of give
Speaker 1: the possibility or or halfway admit in some some sections
Speaker 1: of the book, maybe these they're also kind of possessed, right,
Speaker 1: So they're not just splits alternate identities. They might also
Speaker 1: have spiritual problems in possession. And I think that's the
Speaker 1: most logical analysis too. So you've been listening to Jay's analysis,
Speaker 1: and next, if you want to see the full analysis
Speaker 1: of Dave's book when we look at a lot of
Speaker 1: these cases of the serial killers and they're al personalities
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Speaker 1: at my website and thank you for watching, and get
Speaker 1: ready to get into some pretty dark, nasty stuff. But
Speaker 1: it's illustrative, it's interesting, and it reminds me again of
Speaker 1: the Shamalan movie Split, right. I mean, I know that's Hollywood,
Speaker 1: but if you watched Split, it's very reminiscent of what
Speaker 1: we read in Programmed to Kill. Now we moved to
Speaker 1: the actual text and what Dave argues in the book,
Speaker 1: and he mentions the importance of mind control. And this
Speaker 1: is something that we've talked about many times. We've done
Speaker 1: a lot of interviews, a lot of talks, a lot
Speaker 1: of discussions in the reality of mind control and how
Speaker 1: it would be use full in many different fields. Marketing
Speaker 1: would be interested in this, Psychology would be interested in this, intelligence, agencies, military,
Speaker 1: you name it. All would be interested. Cults, right, So,
Speaker 1: all these various aspects of our crazy world could have
Speaker 1: some potential use for mind control. And so you can
Speaker 1: see why with the development of all the scientific techniques
Speaker 1: since the scientific revolution, as to why this would be
Speaker 1: such an important focus of study and the government, especially
Speaker 1: our government, especially in the last fifty sixty seventy years
Speaker 1: has poured tremendous money into this. And as we said,
Speaker 1: that was documented in John Marx's book The Search for
Speaker 1: the mansorin Candidate, which you can get that book as well.
Speaker 1: It will be in the recommended reading page as I
Speaker 1: update that in the next couple days at Jay's analysis,
Speaker 1: and I also have my review and analysis of that book. Now,
Speaker 1: some of these books that he's mentioned were probably familiar with.
Speaker 1: He mentions Acid Dreams, he mentions Journey into Madness, Delgado's
Speaker 1: book Physical Control of the Mind, one of the MK
Speaker 1: ultra doctors who actually wrote a book on physical control
Speaker 1: of the mind, Donald Bain's book Control of Kenny Jones
Speaker 1: and her usage by the military. And we have Walter
Speaker 1: Bowert's pretty well known book Operation Mind Control, Peter Watson
Speaker 1: War on the Mind, Peter Shrag Mind Control. So all
Speaker 1: these books are pretty good. I've read several of these,
Speaker 1: but they're pretty not all of them, but pretty good
Speaker 1: introductions to the notion of mind control. And when it
Speaker 1: comes to the issue of MPD and d ID multiple
Speaker 1: personality or disassociative identity disorder, this is supposed to be debated,
Speaker 1: but the consensus of a lot of the supposed academic
Speaker 1: literature is that it's not faked. Doctor Deirdre Barrett, writing
Speaker 1: in two thousand and one for Psychology Today, noted that
Speaker 1: they are not faking it. There are other references the
Speaker 1: DSMV still, I've cited this in articles as well. Not
Speaker 1: that this proves anything per se, but it's interesting that
Speaker 1: you have these these establishment papers that still cite it
Speaker 1: as legitimate as a real thing. The DSMV citing Esterbrooks's
Speaker 1: famous hypnosis article, and it's still in the footnotes last
Speaker 1: time I checked a year or two ago, so still referenced.
Speaker 1: And doctor Colin Ross. You've probably heard him in various
Speaker 1: on various podcast talks interviews. I've heard him on several
Speaker 1: different psychiatry and psychology podcasts, which I listened to quite
Speaker 1: a few of those here and there in my spare time.
Speaker 1: So this is not a subject that is completely new
Speaker 1: to me. I've also read other books just strictly from
Speaker 1: the psychiatry psychological standpoint, Switching Time by Bayer. We mentioned
Speaker 1: that in the interview that I did with Greg Crawlwood
Speaker 1: at Hier said chats. So there's a lot of literature
Speaker 1: out there that you can find that that tends to
Speaker 1: back this up. And so that's part of the thesis
Speaker 1: that Dave's going to work for him, and I would agree.
Speaker 1: I think that there's I think it's real, and there's
Speaker 1: other books too that will deal with it, maybe from
Speaker 1: a more conspiratorial perspective. I've got some more poppy books
Speaker 1: in my library touch on mind control in NIM culture,
Speaker 1: but they're really kind of referencing the founding texts that
Speaker 1: we've already mentioned. So, you know, as we noted from
Speaker 1: John Marx's book, there's not really we don't know everything
Speaker 1: about what happened in mkulture and supposedly Helms or one
Speaker 1: of the you know, CIA guys destroyed seven boxes and
Speaker 1: somebody only got a hold of seven boxes that weren't
Speaker 1: destroyed and all this kind of stuff. Who knows what's
Speaker 1: true in regard to that, But I think we can
Speaker 1: kind of trace out general ideas, and you know, some
Speaker 1: of the documents are online. I've looked through some of those. Again,
Speaker 1: it's hard to tell, you know what you're looking at.
Speaker 1: But Freud apparently I was aware of this idea of
Speaker 1: a ritual abuse and sexual ritual abuse. You may have
Speaker 1: been involved in it. I don't know, but it's at
Speaker 1: least mentioned in Freud's work, and so again you've got
Speaker 1: these mad scientists. Basically, it's what I argued in the
Speaker 1: John Mark's talk, who knows what you know? They're going
Speaker 1: to be doing anything and everything just because they are
Speaker 1: wicked dudes. There's a quote from Probe magazine which I've
Speaker 1: never heard of, but Dave cites this as a woman,
Speaker 1: Arlene Tyler, and she's writing about MK Ultra and she
Speaker 1: says in the fifties, the CIA was also looking for
Speaker 1: specially gifted subjects to study their dissociative states. So I'm
Speaker 1: guessing this means gifted children, although not sure this could
Speaker 1: be induced and controlled through hypnosis and drugs. It reminds
Speaker 1: me of that Netflix series THEA, Remember that the OA.
Speaker 1: If you saw that, which was really good until that's
Speaker 1: stupid ending. I was really hooked on that show. Man.
Speaker 1: This is I've never seen anything like this, and then
Speaker 1: it just turned into Glee or something. It's like Glee
Speaker 1: meets Sandy Hook at the end. If you saw that,
Speaker 1: If you didn't see it, I can't say that I
Speaker 1: recommend it, just because it was such a stupid ending.
Speaker 1: But if you if you are into endings, then you'll enjoy.
Speaker 1: If you're really into the first three fourths of shows,
Speaker 1: you'll like that show. Now, Blackmail, Orgy's Eyes, Wide Shot, stuff,
Speaker 1: Mart du Trouve affair, that all comes up. We've talked
Speaker 1: about that many times. That's why I did you know
Speaker 1: my analysis of eywatch Shot, which is in my book,
Speaker 1: the first chapter actually, and it's interesting that Dave mentions
Speaker 1: the many times and many instances, many cases where you
Speaker 1: have a connection between the timing of events and various
Speaker 1: occult calendars. So Dave notes that I think there's something
Speaker 1: to that, and he mentioned some cults here at the beginning,
Speaker 1: where the Belgian elite and elite Roman Catholics in Belgium. Belgium. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we know that. We talked about that many times as well,
Speaker 1: in relation again to the Dutreux affair and the character
Speaker 1: of Michael Nahoul, who was one of these guys who
Speaker 1: would I guess grab girls and supplied these girls for
Speaker 1: the elite, and there was like this pedo cult. And
Speaker 1: the guy who takes the fall is Dutreux, if I recall, right,
Speaker 1: he's the guy who's supposed to be in charge of
Speaker 1: all this. But then you know, like the whole city
Speaker 1: of Belgium that were there's like a huge march at
Speaker 1: the capitol because it's people are so outraged over this
Speaker 1: and it was so widespread and so some of like
Speaker 1: a million people marched because this was all covered up.
Speaker 1: And then he talks about pedophile cults in Scotland. In Portugal,
Speaker 1: there was a big TV guy called mister TV I
Speaker 1: guess in Portugal and he was involved in this giant
Speaker 1: pedophile cult and there was this snuff films. Interestingly, we've
Speaker 1: mentioned that in some cases being covered. Now Snopes tells
Speaker 1: you that there's no such thing. So that's supposed to
Speaker 1: be I guess, the definitive word on whether or not
Speaker 1: snuff films exist. But yeah, I mean, come on, the
Speaker 1: people have cameras and there are evil people. Why wouldn't
Speaker 1: they exist? Right? And what is this that we hear
Speaker 1: about on the internet at rule thirty four that if
Speaker 1: you can think of it, there's some kind of weird
Speaker 1: porn version, right, whatever you can think of there's there's
Speaker 1: some weirdo that's into the porn version of that. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Dave mentions Lewis Carroll. We've talked about Lewis Carroll as
Speaker 1: well in his pedophilia, and it's how it kind of
Speaker 1: seems to be affiliated with Alice in Wonderland in some way,
Speaker 1: although I guess it's not onres certain, but you can
Speaker 1: argue maybe that you know, Alice tumbling down the rabbit
Speaker 1: hole and all of her experience his her trippy experiences.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe Lewis Carroll was like drugging girls or something,
Speaker 1: and you know, this is how he got the idea
Speaker 1: for this, right, So the disis dissociative states and young
Speaker 1: girls being traumatized, and maybe this is part of the
Speaker 1: meaning of Wonderland, right, uh, and and the weird connections
Speaker 1: with Disney. This becomes sort of the motif of Disney, right.
Speaker 1: You know, it's hard to demonstrate. I only found one
Speaker 1: instance where the in in John Marx's book, there was
Speaker 1: a direct connection between Alice in Wonderland and MK Ultra
Speaker 1: and it was you and Cameron had been doing experiments
Speaker 1: on a certain woman. I don't remember her name, but
Speaker 1: she was in one of the psychiatric hospitals, and you know,
Speaker 1: he was like playing all these weird things and uh,
Speaker 1: psychic driving and torturing and electro shock and playing these
Speaker 1: tapes and I guess movies. We don't really know, but
Speaker 1: he was probably strapping her down and making her watch,
Speaker 1: you know, Alison Wonderland or something. I don't know, her
Speaker 1: maybe playing it on Alice Wonderland on tape and seeing
Speaker 1: what that would do. And but she she's seems to
Speaker 1: think that this woman that he was, you know, dosing
Speaker 1: up with LSD and he's doing all this too, she
Speaker 1: thought that she was Alice in Wonderland. So that is
Speaker 1: the one instance I could find that connects Alison went
Speaker 1: on directly to the actual programs of m culture. But
Speaker 1: I suppose the allegory maybe it's kind of like a
Speaker 1: wink wink thing amongst sickos that oh yeah, that's about
Speaker 1: you know, Lewis Carroll's into young girls, and that's what
Speaker 1: Alice wonder One is about. But I'm not sure. I
Speaker 1: don't know. But one of the theses that Dave lays
Speaker 1: out is that, as we said, there are unsolved murders,
Speaker 1: and a lot of these unsolved murders could be tacked
Speaker 1: onto the suppose the serial killer. Right now, that's not
Speaker 1: to say that the serial killers aren't serial killers, but
Speaker 1: rather that they may have killed a few people and
Speaker 1: then it's added on to their hit count, right, all
Speaker 1: of these other names of people that they supposedly killed, right,
Speaker 1: or that the police department couldn't make sense of, or
Speaker 1: you know, old old cases that were unsolved. So then
Speaker 1: he moves on to talk about instances of you know,
Speaker 1: pedo cults. And this is very prescient because of all
Speaker 1: the stuff that you know, has come out in the
Speaker 1: news in the last well thirteen years since they've published
Speaker 1: this book, right, I mean, we've seen so many instances
Speaker 1: of this. And he mentions the McMartin preschool case, which
Speaker 1: if you've seen, you know, Ted Gunderson's lecture, which has
Speaker 1: been going around on the internet for I don't know,
Speaker 1: probably twenty years since the beginning of the internet, but
Speaker 1: I don't know. But Dave argues that, you know, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of questions in the mc martin case that
Speaker 1: we're never answered, so we could we there were tunnels
Speaker 1: under the school, right, So you know that was not
Speaker 1: a mythology, right, but I guess it's not definitive. And
Speaker 1: depending on what you think of Ted Gunnerson and his talk,
Speaker 1: you know who knows, but Dave seems to think that
Speaker 1: there's oddities in that case that leave it still open
Speaker 1: for question. And then he moves on to talk about
Speaker 1: other instances of drugging and capturing and drugging children. And
Speaker 1: this reminded me of and this is a character named
Speaker 1: Frank Fuster, and this is just like the movie Prisoners.
Speaker 1: Now I'm not positive, but whoever made the movie Prisoners
Speaker 1: with Jake Jollen Hall and Wolverine whatever, I've gone blank? Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know I'm talking about. I know who it is,
Speaker 1: but my mind is on Frank Fuster at the moment,
Speaker 1: which is a ridiculous name. But Frank would go into
Speaker 1: a trance and he would steal kids and just a
Speaker 1: total sicko. But what was interesting is that he would
Speaker 1: use gatorade, urine and drugs. This is how he would
Speaker 1: drug his victims. And of course he touched them and
Speaker 1: molest of them and all this kind of stuff. And
Speaker 1: that is one of these cases where yeah, he says,
Speaker 1: a catatonic trance. Interesting, and I guess he was connected
Speaker 1: to working at Disney or something like that. This is
Speaker 1: Dave says. Even so, justice was not necessarily served, blah blah, blah.
Speaker 1: Not even the Centaia priest who attended the trial with
Speaker 1: Foster's mother and uncle had the power to save him
Speaker 1: and our Veda, which is to say, the Walt Disney
Speaker 1: company paid six million dollars to seven of his victims,
Speaker 1: so he was one of these weird pedo guys. Then
Speaker 1: Dave goes on to talk about routes of trafficking and
Speaker 1: how this might be connected to moving contraband, be it
Speaker 1: people or whatever, and he talks about I think he
Speaker 1: mentions Air America and a lot of I assumed everyone
Speaker 1: had seen this, but I guess it's not because I
Speaker 1: mentioned and people don't know what I'm talking about. But
Speaker 1: there's a movie about the CIA airline America. It's got
Speaker 1: mel Gibson and Robert Downey Jr.
Speaker 2: In it.
Speaker 1: So I assumed everybody had seen that, but I guess not.
Speaker 1: So go watch Air America if you want to see, like,
Speaker 1: here's total revelation the method. Oh yeah, this CIA, you know,
Speaker 1: traffics drugs in this private CIA airline and it's called
Speaker 1: Air America. And everybody knows this. There's a haha, hilarious
Speaker 1: comedy about it. It's like, what you know, people, I
Speaker 1: don't know. It's just it's crazy. The world that we
Speaker 1: live in is so crazy. And you can have all
Speaker 1: these movies made about all this stuff, movies made about
Speaker 1: the serial Killers too, right, I mean again Prisoners, And
Speaker 1: I listed a bunch of movies that came to mind
Speaker 1: because I was thinking about comparing the Hollywood presentations with
Speaker 1: what Dave talks about. And I don't know, it's just
Speaker 1: so this is just such a bizarre genre. It's such
Speaker 1: a weird thing that that serial Killers pops up all
Speaker 1: of a sudden. But we're going to see why that
Speaker 1: is as we get into Dave's book, so he moves
Speaker 1: on to talk about some other creeper instances of mind
Speaker 1: control facilities. This is something I've wondered about too, is
Speaker 1: these locations for where these programming and so you know
Speaker 1: such might go down. And I've wondered about this, and
Speaker 1: you know, Dave lists a lot of locales and places
Speaker 1: and potential things. Locations observed London, Germany, Bahamas, Japan, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Africa,
Speaker 1: Costa Rica, Europe, Pellets. There are areas in Palestine under
Speaker 1: various project names, and this is connected to the Finder's case.
Speaker 1: The Finder's case is this idea of where they were
Speaker 1: trafficking kids that were being kidnapped, and this was under
Speaker 1: a leaeve, the CIA's proprietary firm that was that was
Speaker 1: or excuse me, Air America is the proprietary firm, the
Speaker 1: proprietary airline, and the Finders were supposed to be looking
Speaker 1: for lost children. Well, it doesn't look like they were
Speaker 1: looking for them. It looks like they were selling them
Speaker 1: because they had apparently machines, cash machines set up for
Speaker 1: wired transfers, you know, across across continents and countries. And
Speaker 1: this ties into Craig Spence and Larry King and the
Speaker 1: now famous Franklin cover up. So if you read the
Speaker 1: Franklin cover Up book then you know all about that.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure most people have probably seen the Discovery
Speaker 1: Channel documentary that has also been floating around the internet
Speaker 1: for twenty years. You know about Franklin cover up. So
Speaker 1: we won't rehearse all that. But the next character is
Speaker 1: Henry Lee Lucas. And what's interesting about the Henry Le
Speaker 1: Lucas case is the connection to a mysterious cult, or
Speaker 1: so Henry claims. Now, again, we don't know if it's true.
Speaker 1: This is in Henry's whoever the biographer was, and I
Speaker 1: went and looked up the link to check it, and
Speaker 1: it actually it's it is there and he does say
Speaker 1: it in the whatever the authoris biography of Henry l.
Speaker 1: Lucas's or his main biographer. It's called Hand of Death
Speaker 1: the Henry Lee Lucas story, and Hand of Death is
Speaker 1: the name of the cult that he claimed he was
Speaker 1: controlled by or a part of UH and it supposedly
Speaker 1: has connections to Texas Rangers. I don't know if that's true.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that this is what Henry Lucas claimed. Now, again,
Speaker 1: it's hard to prove these things or know these things
Speaker 1: because they are coming from crazy dudes. Right. So now
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that it's false just because it comes
Speaker 1: from a crazy dude, right, But it's just again dubious
Speaker 1: and hard to know. So you know, who knows. But
Speaker 1: there are all these oddities that come up, like why
Speaker 1: does this crazy dude get pardoned by w pardon pardon
Speaker 1: Henry le Lucas a good man, He's a good man,
Speaker 1: Mustard gashous Terrish, Right now, why would you pardon this
Speaker 1: guy if you're a w R. I mean, I don't know,
Speaker 1: that's bizarre, but you know, Henry claims that he was
Speaker 1: part of a cult that had connections, interestingly to a
Speaker 1: ranch in Mexico near Juarez. Now I've been in a
Speaker 1: few arguments lately with people about Juarez because last summer
Speaker 1: I drove to California and on the way we stopped
Speaker 1: in El Paso Passo was on the border of Hoarees.
Speaker 1: And the reason this became interesting to me initially it
Speaker 1: was because of the movie Cecario. And if you watch Cecario,
Speaker 1: you'll see Emily Blunt get duped by the CIA guy
Speaker 1: played by I just I'm going blank on my actors today, goonies.
Speaker 1: I'm usually like spot on with my actors, but I've
Speaker 1: been reading and talking all day. Josh Brolin is the
Speaker 1: CIA dude who dupes Emily Blunt. If you haven't seen Sircario,
Speaker 1: go watch that. That's relevant to this because you've got
Speaker 1: your contract killers, your hitmen, and that as well played
Speaker 1: by Beniccio. About Del Toro. So the Mexican death cult
Speaker 1: of MS thirteen, which I've talked about and looked into,
Speaker 1: and the religious worship of Santa and these gangs I
Speaker 1: think that's all real. And you have these longstanding stories
Speaker 1: of the disappearing women. So in Noirez, all these women disappear,
Speaker 1: and I wonder what's going on. Nobody can figure it out. Well,
Speaker 1: there's being put into human trafskiing. Obviously, that's obvious. What's
Speaker 1: going on? Come on? So Dave wrote about this a
Speaker 1: long time ago, and then so I went looked and
Speaker 1: there's all these articles and videos and documentaries that you
Speaker 1: can find on the cartels of ware Is and the
Speaker 1: Sineloa and all these different areas down there, and what car,
Speaker 1: what cartel control controls, what redoing, and on and on on.
Speaker 1: And when I was driving through there, I was looking
Speaker 1: actually at the government alert page, just out of curiosity,
Speaker 1: and they tell you don't go here. You can go here.
Speaker 1: This one's okay, Oh don't go over here. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying the government is necessarily reliable, but I'm saying that
Speaker 1: I don't think that's fake. I mean, you know, there
Speaker 1: there are cartels that control these places. And when you
Speaker 1: go to El Paso, you can stand on the Ol
Speaker 1: Paso side and you can look over, which we did.
Speaker 1: I took pictures and whatares is? Just this long, never
Speaker 1: ending infinite plane up the hill, up this mountain with
Speaker 1: writing on it right something about I guess this is
Speaker 1: like Jesus and Juarez or something I can't remember. But
Speaker 1: it's just all these like shanties right, very sad. I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to be cruel or dismissive or harsh or insensitive,
Speaker 1: but it's it's just really bad bad news. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of poverty, and it's obvious. So the people that
Speaker 1: trying to argue with me that it's not a shithole,
Speaker 1: they're just full of it. I've seen it. Don't pull
Speaker 1: your liberal crap with me, because I went and saw
Speaker 1: it with my own eyes. I've been to Mexico too,
Speaker 1: by the way, I've been to Tijuana and so anyway,
Speaker 1: but what's interesting is that we start to get a
Speaker 1: picture and if you go read even liberal magazine, so
Speaker 1: it's as funny as I went told the liberal publications,
Speaker 1: like all of the pro open border ones, like I
Speaker 1: was reading The Atlantic and the you know, and then
Speaker 1: they're his the because I was I was curious because
Speaker 1: I wanted to see what the leftists and the feminists
Speaker 1: would say about missing women in Juarez. Ooh, hmm. That's
Speaker 1: a bit of a conundrum for the leftist feminists because
Speaker 1: you don't want to be racist against the Hispanic and
Speaker 1: I guess the noble cartel people, right, nobody racist if
Speaker 1: you say that there are cartels, But you also don't
Speaker 1: want to ignore the plight of trafficked women. So that's
Speaker 1: kind of a tough one. So I think it was
Speaker 1: the Atlantic article that I read, pretty long one about
Speaker 1: the missing women. Well it just says, oh, yeah, this
Speaker 1: is all true. There's always missing women. In the nineties
Speaker 1: or somewhere in that period, it was the most missing
Speaker 1: women in the world and all this stuff, and we
Speaker 1: got to do something about this, and there's no government
Speaker 1: to do anything because NAFTA. Now I think that's all true.
Speaker 1: NAFTA is a private corporate sweatshops that are put down
Speaker 1: there on purpose, and so you know, all the cops
Speaker 1: down there are like bought off right by all the cartels.
Speaker 1: So I think that's how all this works. If you
Speaker 1: want to be liberal and debate me on that, and
Speaker 1: you think that there is no MS thirteen and there's
Speaker 1: no something what Day, and well, you know all these
Speaker 1: documentaries that are on YouTube, they're not all fake you know,
Speaker 1: have you been to Mexico? I have, right, So there's
Speaker 1: good and bad areas, and if you don't think there's
Speaker 1: bad areas, then you're just lying now. So it But
Speaker 1: was Henry Lee Lucas raised in a hand of the
Speaker 1: Double Death Cult? I don't know, We don't know, but
Speaker 1: that is what he says. And there's a I forget
Speaker 1: the exact number, but there's a really high death count, right,
Speaker 1: and he it's hard to see that he was really
Speaker 1: behind all this. So Dave goes on to say, well,
Speaker 1: Henry is probably a portrait of the MK ultra type
Speaker 1: assassin that we're talking about, who could be used for
Speaker 1: multiple reasons. And so there's this Office of Naval Intelligence
Speaker 1: O n I connection and the argument is that the
Speaker 1: O and I and NATO were interested in finding prisoners
Speaker 1: that and psychos. And so this is how we get
Speaker 1: the connection to the Phoenix program, which is this idea
Speaker 1: out of Vietnam where William Colby is oh said, oh,
Speaker 1: in order to defeat all the commies in the Kong
Speaker 1: and Viet Kong, we've got to train ruthless psychopaths, right,
Speaker 1: And so this is where you get the idea, you know,
Speaker 1: like in Full Metal Jacket, right, this is the same
Speaker 1: idea there where the big goofy kind of retarded due
Speaker 1: to the beginning, just goes nuts because he just goes psycho, right,
Speaker 1: And that's this is also what this is basically apocalypse now.
Speaker 1: This is Martin Sheen going crazy on acid, right, So
Speaker 1: that's kind of so that's that's what the Phoenix program
Speaker 1: is there, you go apocalypse now now. So there's all
Speaker 1: these CIA scoundrels, Dan Mitrione and these characters that are
Speaker 1: connected to this Phoenix program until William Colby and the
Speaker 1: thesis here is that, oh well, it looks like it's
Speaker 1: These are probably least some of the guys who either
Speaker 1: came back from Vietnam and were traumatized and psychopaths, or
Speaker 1: you know, they were profile beforehand and put into Vietnam
Speaker 1: to become the program psychopath. And by the way, if
Speaker 1: you go watch Full Metal Jacket, the Kubrick film, you'll
Speaker 1: notice the the William Baldwin Baldwin whatever, the Baldwin guy
Speaker 1: in it, I forget his name, but he he's the
Speaker 1: the psycho, right. And you have Joker, the main character
Speaker 1: who after the the first scene after the first act
Speaker 1: when the big goofy retarded dude commits suicide. It moves
Speaker 1: into the Vietnam section of the story, and then Joker
Speaker 1: meets the Baldwin character Adam Baldwin excuse me, Adam Ball
Speaker 1: and the actor, and Adam Baldwin is just total total
Speaker 1: psycho man like he's like, he just loves the kill count.
Speaker 1: He loves all the different ways to kill people. And
Speaker 1: then when at the climax of the film, if you recall,
Speaker 1: it's this little I don't know, thirteen fourteen year old
Speaker 1: Via Cong girl, and she's the one who's like secretly
Speaker 1: shooting them from from a building top right, and so
Speaker 1: they sneak into the building, they get it to the
Speaker 1: top and Joker shoots her, but she's not dead. And
Speaker 1: so it's Joker and Adam Baldwin and the rest of
Speaker 1: the team are standing up there and they don't know
Speaker 1: what to do, and Adam Ball is like, just kill her.
Speaker 1: You know, he has absolutely no remorse killing this little kid,
Speaker 1: and Joker doesn't want to, but finally he just goes
Speaker 1: with it, and you know, he's obviously very troubled, you know,
Speaker 1: in having to do this, which any normal person would be.
Speaker 1: I'm going to kill a thirteen year old. But this
Speaker 1: for the Baldwin guy, whatever his character's name is, you know,
Speaker 1: he loves it, right, So he's that one percent, that's
Speaker 1: the psychopath. And that's what Dave's getting at, is that
Speaker 1: these kind of people were profiled. And isn't that interesting
Speaker 1: that that's kind of what again, Kubrick appears to be
Speaker 1: telling us. See in so many ways, He's told us
Speaker 1: so many things. And this is where we move into
Speaker 1: Berkwitz and the connections to other cults. The Satanic Family
Speaker 1: is what Burkwitz claims that he was connected to this
Speaker 1: larger Satanic network, Satanic Family, And this is where Marie
Speaker 1: Terry's book Ultimate Evil has a thesis that Manson and
Speaker 1: Berkovitz and some of these other guys Lucas, henryly Lucas,
Speaker 1: that they appear to be have been part of a
Speaker 1: larger national or international network of cults that were run
Speaker 1: by a super cult or just run by military and intelligence, right,
Speaker 1: and could therefore be used for assassinations, for hits, for whatever,
Speaker 1: kidnapping and so forth. Then he talks about, then this
Speaker 1: is one I'd never heard of, the Monster of Florence.
Speaker 1: I've read you know, several books, probably ten books on
Speaker 1: occult crimes and so forth. I'd never heard of the
Speaker 1: Monster of Florence. And this is a dude in a
Speaker 1: circle of elite guys and maybe women too in Italy
Speaker 1: in the period of the seventies and eighties. In two
Speaker 1: thousand and two, I've been like maybe into the two thousands,
Speaker 1: you know, two thousand and two, the Monster of Florence
Speaker 1: was in the news again. Yeah, satanic rites. According to
Speaker 1: the Sunday Herald, Eyes wide shut parties. This is page
Speaker 1: eighty four Day's book. The police are involved, there's orgies,
Speaker 1: they've got cameras, they've got torture racks. They are blackmailing people.
Speaker 1: That was what was going on. So this is the
Speaker 1: upper level Italian Italian elites. So we're starting to see
Speaker 1: patterns here. This is going on everywhere, like all the countries.
Speaker 1: These elites are into just the grossest stuff. And then
Speaker 1: you realize, oh, a big part of it is blackmailing people. Right,
Speaker 1: this is what you do. Get photographic evidence, You've got
Speaker 1: film evidence of of these people doing outrageous stuff, and
Speaker 1: then you can control them that way. Now that also
Speaker 1: makes me think of and I haven't I've looked into
Speaker 1: this a little bit, but I haven't done a whole
Speaker 1: lot of research. But it's supposed to be partly true.
Speaker 1: This story that is the Guy Ritchie movie Bank Job,
Speaker 1: And if you remember, if you haven't seen that, I
Speaker 1: recommend it not you know, I don't Usually I'm not
Speaker 1: a big fan of Jason. I don't have any problem
Speaker 1: with Jason Stathum. It's just I'm not really into like
Speaker 1: the standard action movies. But Bank Job is a really
Speaker 1: good Jason Stathum movie. Killer Elit's really good too, by
Speaker 1: the way. But in bank Job, if you recall, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to spoil the in for you, but I
Speaker 1: six hires like the best bank thieves on the down load,
Speaker 1: and they hire them to steal blackmail evidence of one
Speaker 1: of them nobility or the royal princess or something like that.
Speaker 1: I think somebody royal who was doing some nasty orgy
Speaker 1: stuff and I wouldn't be president and true. And one
Speaker 1: of the guys who had the blackmail was one of
Speaker 1: these like not Michael, not Malcolm X, but I think
Speaker 1: they call him micah X or something ridiculous, not mikeah X.
Speaker 1: That's the guy that was the guy who killed people
Speaker 1: supposedly in Denver. One of these ex guys like a
Speaker 1: black rights black nationalist guy, so and so X, who,
Speaker 1: by the way, was a real guy. I think I
Speaker 1: can't remember who it's based on, but anyway, go watch
Speaker 1: Bank Jobs. It's a pretty good movie. So chapter nine
Speaker 1: we go to Rancho Diablo, which is more on the
Speaker 1: Henry Lee Lucas Thayne because henryly Lucas talked about the
Speaker 1: connections to satanant cult and Juarez, which presumably would tie
Speaker 1: into MS thirteen and the Santam whate And in chapter
Speaker 1: nine Dave talks about a different cult which I had
Speaker 1: heard of, but I didn't know much about this, so
Speaker 1: this was also new to me. Around nineteen eighty nine,
Speaker 1: you had the Matta Moros cult and they were just
Speaker 1: south of Brownsville, Texas, and Henry Lucas had a spiritual
Speaker 1: advisor from the Matamorros cult. Unbelievable Clemmy Schroeder identified as
Speaker 1: Henry's spiritual advisor, and I guess she had some connection
Speaker 1: to the Matamoros cult, but Henry's partner Otis Toole claimed
Speaker 1: that it was not the specific ranch, not the same one,
Speaker 1: but that there were interconnected operations all along the Texas
Speaker 1: Mexico border. Now that's crazy anyway. So the Matamoros cult
Speaker 1: was headed by connected to Okay, connected to a drug
Speaker 1: baron named Ilio Hernandez Rivera, and obviously of course they
Speaker 1: bought off cops. Some of them were into it's like
Speaker 1: a witchcraft cult, just really crazy stuff. And they were
Speaker 1: first exposed in nineteen eighty nine for a series of
Speaker 1: brutal murders that included beheadings, and Dave says that they
Speaker 1: were involved in not just murder but also drug trafficking.
Speaker 1: And the pipeline went from Matamorros, from the Matamor's cult
Speaker 1: south of Brownsville to the mob in Chicago. Interesting the
Speaker 1: let's see who's the guy in this? The high Priestess
Speaker 1: Sarah Aldretti displayed what was described as split personality. She
Speaker 1: clearly had a dual personality like many of the other occultists.
Speaker 1: Aldrette had married on Halloween nineteen eighty three. She had
Speaker 1: links to the Hernandez drug family. Blah blah blah. The
Speaker 1: Matamoras cult was part of a massive hemisphere wide drug
Speaker 1: trafficking network that went all the way from Roswell, Texas
Speaker 1: to top Chicago mafia. I did not know when hear that.
Speaker 1: That was all new to me. So then he talks
Speaker 1: about NAFTA and the missing women in Juarez as I mentioned,
Speaker 1: And the reason for NAFTA and Mexico was so that
Speaker 1: there would be sweatshops tech tax free sweatshops, right, free market,
Speaker 1: isn't it libertarian? So there's deep state connections of course,
Speaker 1: to these cults, one guy named Dracula, one cult guy
Speaker 1: led by Jesus Guardaldo Marquez known as Eddracola and Dave
Speaker 1: Notes of court, which should be obvious that these Mexican
Speaker 1: colts and the drug trafficking appeared to have been tied
Speaker 1: to the then president of Mexico. Not surprising. So there's
Speaker 1: a tie in between the narco cults and Satanism that
Speaker 1: is interesting and I've wondered about that. Why do you
Speaker 1: see this weird connection between MS thirteen and these Santa
Speaker 1: Ria cults and you know sent them whatte with And
Speaker 1: I guess it's just because colts obviously, you know, it's
Speaker 1: a it's an natural affinity between the realm of mind
Speaker 1: control and MK ultra sex slaves. I mean, this is,
Speaker 1: like I guess should be obvious why those two worlds
Speaker 1: are connected. There's also if you this chapter two. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure. I don't want to recommend this movie, but
Speaker 1: it reminds me of the Nicholas Cage movie eight millimeter,
Speaker 1: which I don't know. I guess it's any worse than
Speaker 1: Video Drome. If you've seen David Cronenberg's Video Drome, it's
Speaker 1: kind of the same same idea, but a lot more
Speaker 1: weird than the Nicholas Cage movie. But what Dave talks
Speaker 1: about in chapter nine with with some of the usage
Speaker 1: of military base and different ranches and filming stuff and
Speaker 1: human trafficking and oh, it's just awful stuff. But but
Speaker 1: tell me that then Nicholas Cage movie is so ridiculous
Speaker 1: that it just, like, I don't know, the silliness of
Speaker 1: Nicholas Cage, the entertaining aspects of Nicholas Cage sort of
Speaker 1: dull the uh soften the blow of the harshness of
Speaker 1: the topic. I guess you could say, whereas I guess
Speaker 1: if you watch video Drome, it's just weird. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's a bad movie. It's illustrative, but
Speaker 1: the only reason I haven't done an analysis yet a
Speaker 1: video drome is because I'm not. I mean, I own it,
Speaker 1: I have the DVD, seeing it probably five times. I'm
Speaker 1: still not one hundred percent sure I know what David
Speaker 1: Cronenberg's trying to say in that movie. We definitely live
Speaker 1: in the video drome that much, but I don't know
Speaker 1: what he's talking about. Anyway, Lucas's cases don't fit his profile.
Speaker 1: And this is an interesting point that comes up in
Speaker 1: a lot of the serial killer stuff here that Dave
Speaker 1: says might suggest involved more killers. And this is the
Speaker 1: idea of totally different styles of murder, like bludgeoning and
Speaker 1: then beheading and then strangling. And so when it's this
Speaker 1: sort of randomness, yeah, it could be that the killer
Speaker 1: was just you know, super crafty and trying to outsmart
Speaker 1: the cops. But it also could be that these are
Speaker 1: just different people, different murders, different cults, different groups, or
Speaker 1: all of them working together. So another interesting fact is
Speaker 1: the California, Texas, Florida connection. Why is it so many
Speaker 1: of these sperial killers are drawn to live in, grow up,
Speaker 1: or end up in terrorise or terrorized these three states. Now,
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously other states come up in different cases,
Speaker 1: but these really seem to be a hotbed, and Dave says, well,
Speaker 1: it's because these are areas of trafficking out of Mexico,
Speaker 1: and that makes sense. The new terror fear begins. This
Speaker 1: is interesting, he says with Charles Whitman. And this is
Speaker 1: the guy who you know, climbs up in the tower
Speaker 1: at University of Texas and he starts sniping people. Now,
Speaker 1: this guy too, was like a former intelligence dude or
Speaker 1: the Texas Sniper Naval Enlisted Science Education Program any SEP
Speaker 1: was an intelligence entity. And from there he came back,
Speaker 1: went up the tower at the University of Texas Austin
Speaker 1: and just started sniping. And I forget what his body
Speaker 1: count is, twenty three or thirty. And this kind of
Speaker 1: spawns the idea that you're not safe anywhere, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, that anywhere you go out in town travel,
Speaker 1: I mean, there's just serial killers. Under every rock, there's
Speaker 1: a serial killer and you know, waiting to snipe you
Speaker 1: from or from atop every tower. Right now, that's not true,
Speaker 1: but the public began to get this impression, and so
Speaker 1: you kind of get the thesis. Well, maybe there's more
Speaker 1: going on. Maybe, you know, Dave's proposing the possibilities, He
Speaker 1: said many later interviews that you know, the serial killer
Speaker 1: thing didn't just serve the purposes of contract killings or
Speaker 1: professional hits or whatever, but it also might have served
Speaker 1: a longer, larger social engineering dynamic that would result in
Speaker 1: atomization and alienation, people not letting their kids go out
Speaker 1: and play and this kind of stuff. And then from there,
Speaker 1: you know, it kind of they just die away, Like
Speaker 1: we don't where are all the serial killers? Last one
Speaker 1: I can even think of hearing about. And that's excluding
Speaker 1: you know, the normal murders in the news or whatever.
Speaker 1: But the BTK killer, right, remember the BTK killer when
Speaker 1: he had some previous military intelligence pedigree. That was when
Speaker 1: was BTK you know what I mean? Like that's early
Speaker 1: mid two thousands. So we've had like one serial killer
Speaker 1: since Dahmer. I guess, like, who was the last famous
Speaker 1: serial killer that everybody heard of. We're not going to
Speaker 1: count oj here. I don't think he counts, but you know,
Speaker 1: popular so called serial killers, as this so called profile goes,
Speaker 1: which Dave says is also kind of bogus. There's not
Speaker 1: really a profile that's kind of a Hollywood thing. But
Speaker 1: isn't it interesting? This is what everybody sees, you know,
Speaker 1: is again through the lens of Hollywood. Now he talks
Speaker 1: about this many times. Hollywood has given us the understanding
Speaker 1: of terror and the terrorists, right, not facts, not actual
Speaker 1: real world debates and discussions and statistics of you know,
Speaker 1: how likely you are to be killed by terrorists, which
Speaker 1: is less likely than a beasting. And the same with
Speaker 1: serial killers, right. I mean, if you watch movies, which
Speaker 1: obviously I have and you have, you know, if we
Speaker 1: were to just take the movie world at face value,
Speaker 1: you would think half of the population are terrorists and
Speaker 1: serial killers. They're just everywhere. This is just simply not true,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, there's let's just assume
Speaker 1: that everything we're told about a Jeffrey Dahmer. Okay, let's
Speaker 1: just assume that that's real. Well, there's only one Jeffrey
Speaker 1: Dahmer in what a decade? Right, But when the media
Speaker 1: profs this stuff up, and I think John John Adams
Speaker 1: has talked about this, this uh, this idea that the
Speaker 1: media can create the impression that something is everywhere and
Speaker 1: a lot more prevalent than it actually is. And that's
Speaker 1: a very powerful tool of social engineering, is that you know,
Speaker 1: the media has this ability to to give us the
Speaker 1: impression that there's all these terrorists, there's all these killers everywhere.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just madness and mayhem everywhere. And that's
Speaker 1: just not true. Right, Like the most crime ridden cities,
Speaker 1: you know, like Chicago or Memphis or Houston, Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: they have if you look up the stats, they're not
Speaker 1: it's not murders every night. You know, maybe in Chicago
Speaker 1: there's a murder every night. You know, what do they
Speaker 1: have like three, four or five hundred murders a year.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of murders. But I'm saying, you know,
Speaker 1: it's not like if I drive one hour in any
Speaker 1: direction from where I live, for example, there might be
Speaker 1: one murder a year, you know, within a I don't know,
Speaker 1: one hundred mile span of where I live. So you know,
Speaker 1: it's really confined to certain areas that this kind of
Speaker 1: stuff happens, and it's gang and drug stuff, and then
Speaker 1: sometimes there's the psycho. Sometimes there's the guy that loses it,
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes there's the cult this kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: But this stuff is not it's not every day. So
Speaker 1: we can't let the media impress upon us unrealistic dangers,
Speaker 1: but that's really what they're there for. It's the real
Speaker 1: terrorists are the media, I've said for a long time.
Speaker 1: So then he goes on to talk about the alteration
Speaker 1: and culture with Anton Levy and how Tom Levey had
Speaker 1: you know, this kind of intelligence type connections, and you know,
Speaker 1: this is really touched on, well, it's dealt with in
Speaker 1: more detail in the other book. Weird scenes inside the
Speaker 1: Canyon where he focuses on the intelligence propping up and
Speaker 1: support for the Laurel Canyon scene, which was the real
Speaker 1: birthplace of the hippie movement according to Todave McGowan. And
Speaker 1: we get some of the repeated stuff that was new,
Speaker 1: you know when this book came out two thousand and
Speaker 1: four to readers probably, but to us we all know
Speaker 1: about al Ron Hubbard, and we all know about Crowley
Speaker 1: and Hubbard, you know, being part of the part of
Speaker 1: scientology or just getting me part of the OTO and
Speaker 1: Crowley's group before he went into starting his own cult.
Speaker 1: So we're not going to rehearse all that. But there's
Speaker 1: these really weird connections between what the issue of the
Speaker 1: zodiac and Day's idea is that probably multiple people in
Speaker 1: the case of the Zodiac, and these were done on
Speaker 1: explicitly on you know, cult calendar holidays like Lamas and
Speaker 1: Volpurgis Night and all that stuff. But the codes appear
Speaker 1: to have had an actual cryptographic reference that would have
Speaker 1: been known to people, probably in the Office of Naval Intelligence.
Speaker 1: So that would suggest some kind of militarized former military,
Speaker 1: you know, contract killers this kind of thing. And citywide
Speaker 1: homicides reached twenty nine and four days, I believe under
Speaker 1: the Zodiac, and the Zodiac interestingly gets immediately tied up
Speaker 1: with Hollywood. Roman Polanski decides that he's going to do
Speaker 1: his own investigation of the Zodiac killing and he hires
Speaker 1: psychic Peter Herkos. This is crazy. I'd never heard this,
Speaker 1: and the events were held well. Herkos was involved in
Speaker 1: organizing a black Arts festival Halloween nineteen sixty nine with
Speaker 1: Timothy Larry and Anton Leavay. That's a new one to
Speaker 1: me anyway. So Dave argues that the military boot that
Speaker 1: was supposed to be part of the evidence of who
Speaker 1: the Zodiac guy was was issued to naval soldier personnel,
Speaker 1: so that would suggest again military really hits, which that
Speaker 1: makes sense. I mean, there was a call in show
Speaker 1: where supposedly the Zodiac called in. But who knows. I mean,
Speaker 1: this could just be people were just making this stuff.
Speaker 1: I think even that movie with Robert Downey Jr. And
Speaker 1: Jake Jillenhall if you were and Mark Ruffalo, if you
Speaker 1: remember this, what's pretty good movie. If you watch Zodiac
Speaker 1: when it really gets popular, there was you know, people
Speaker 1: were like people were just saying that they knew who
Speaker 1: the Zodiac was, like all these people. So this guy
Speaker 1: would probably just wanted ratings, you know, like like, oh,
Speaker 1: the Zodiac is gonna call in. He wrote a letter
Speaker 1: to our TV show. Yeah right, Santa Cruz starts having
Speaker 1: a lot of deaths and this is supposed to be
Speaker 1: connected to This is the seventies, late sixties, early seventies
Speaker 1: connected to Zodiac. And what's interesting about this is that
Speaker 1: Santa Cruz so that they were finding a lot of
Speaker 1: dead animals too. So there's this explosion of satanism and
Speaker 1: occultism and ritual sacrifice and here's a new detail. The
Speaker 1: notion of the Age of Aquarius was popularized by San
Speaker 1: Francisco groups like the Diggers who occupied the aforementioned Devil House,
Speaker 1: and by publications like San Francisco's Oracle. No one played
Speaker 1: a greater role in popularizing the Age of Aquarius than
Speaker 1: the Oracle Magazine's Gavin Arthur. Interestingly, Arthur's full name was
Speaker 1: Chester Alan Arthur, and he was the great grandson of
Speaker 1: President Chester Arthur. He predicted, supposedly JFK's assassination and before
Speaker 1: he was even elected. However, some attribute this to clairvoyance,
Speaker 1: while it is much more likely that he had fore knowledge. Interesting. Yes,
Speaker 1: just like there was a movie called Manchurian Candidate where
Speaker 1: a mind control Patsy attempts to assassinate presidential candidate before
Speaker 1: JFK was assassinated. Yes, go watch John Frankenheimer's mentoring Candidate.
Speaker 1: So let's see here, moving on to the next section. Married.
Speaker 3: After all, despite all the talk about the eighty year
Speaker 3: old Manson preparing to marry a twenty seven year.
Speaker 1: Old woman, I know you've been following this.
Speaker 3: Case, and Manson has now said that he will allow
Speaker 3: the couple's marriage license to expire.
Speaker 1: Why because it.
Speaker 3: Turns out that the woman who was preparing to marry
Speaker 3: Manson wanted to place his remains once Manson dies in
Speaker 3: a glass crypt and sell tickets for people to view it. See,
Speaker 3: you knew there was a reason a twenty seven year
Speaker 3: old was marrying him. Apparently man doesn't like that idea,
Speaker 3: so he's pulling back, letting that license expire. The New
Speaker 3: York Post also reports that Manson is angry at the
Speaker 3: idea because he believes he is immortal.
Speaker 1: Well, no, I I just added this in because it's
Speaker 1: so ridiculous, and I couldn't help it, given that we're
Speaker 1: talking about serial killers. And we're gonna finish up here
Speaker 1: with the rest of Dave's analysis and then I'll give
Speaker 1: my analysis. But I did a video a few months ago,
Speaker 1: one of the first videos that I started doing consistently,
Speaker 1: and I talked about Manson and the hype of race
Speaker 1: war and all this kind of stuff. And if you
Speaker 1: watch that video of you go back, and it's about
Speaker 1: thirty forty minutes, you'll see that there's there's a clip
Speaker 1: in there where Manson goes on and on about global
Speaker 1: warming and climate change. So you know, this guy is
Speaker 1: obviously some kind of total tool. I mean, he's not
Speaker 1: even coherent enough to do anything other than I guess
Speaker 1: pair it back whatever. I mean, the guy's just totally insane. Obviously,
Speaker 1: But the thesis, of course of Dave McGowan and others
Speaker 1: is that he's these guys were used and they've been
Speaker 1: used by larger networks and so forth, and that as
Speaker 1: Dave thinks, there may be instead of mafia the way
Speaker 1: we used to think of various crime families and so forth,
Speaker 1: that now it's kind of been replaced by this satanic
Speaker 1: network of cultists, and there's not so much these big
Speaker 1: crime families that we you know, the godfather in this constant,
Speaker 1: it's still the mafia model, but it's just a different
Speaker 1: kind of face that's being used now. We mentioned Henry
Speaker 1: Lee Lucas, and we mentioned now there's also the case
Speaker 1: of when we mentioned Zodiac and the oddities there, there's
Speaker 1: also the case of Arlest Perry. And Arlest Perry was
Speaker 1: the young girl who was murdered at college and she
Speaker 1: had Masonic imagery drawn upon her body, carved into her
Speaker 1: the square and compass, and her legs were put into
Speaker 1: a square and compass formation. And yeah, I think a
Speaker 1: candle had been inserted into her vagina from the altar.
Speaker 1: And this had happened that this murder was done on
Speaker 1: a church grounds inside the chapel at Stanford Memorial Church
Speaker 1: at Stanford University. So assuming that this story is true,
Speaker 1: then this would be another case of ritual murder. There's
Speaker 1: a cult compound that the Mansons had, and Dave spends
Speaker 1: a whole lengthy chapter on Manson and all the weird
Speaker 1: Hollywood people hanging out with Manson and connections to the
Speaker 1: Esslon Institute, which we've talked about many times, where in
Speaker 1: Monterey you have this big New Age un type cult
Speaker 1: compound that was connected to Timothy Leary and Elvis Huxley
Speaker 1: and all these characters, and that they also ran a
Speaker 1: Himalayan academy that had direct ties to Charles Manson as well.
Speaker 1: So what's funny about the Manson thing is that he
Speaker 1: doesn't fit the serial killer profile because he didn't actually
Speaker 1: kill anybody. So the story, the mainstream story we're supposed
Speaker 1: to accept, is that Manson brainwashed you know, these followers,
Speaker 1: these groupies, and he was into this apocalyptic, you know,
Speaker 1: processed church stuff. Basically, we're just gonna cut through all
Speaker 1: the bullshit and say that this was all run by
Speaker 1: something even bigger, is the main point, some bigger cult again,
Speaker 1: just like Berkowitz and others, And this is why we
Speaker 1: have these kind of handler characters like Timothy Leary, these
Speaker 1: popularizers who are going around promoting the LSD. And Dave
Speaker 1: dives into that with the character of Owlsley, another one
Speaker 1: of these creators and promoters of LSD in Laurel Weird
Speaker 1: Scenes inside Laurel Canyon. He goes into a lot of
Speaker 1: depth there and how many of these people were all
Speaker 1: connected to the CIA. So a lot of these are
Speaker 1: drug hits. And we have the Eyesweite shut Stall parties
Speaker 1: with the Manson crew as well. I think Dennis Hopper
Speaker 1: mentioned this going on. Da've discusses this on pages one
Speaker 1: forty three, and that bears out other writers who've written
Speaker 1: on this. Peter Lavenda and Sinister Force's trilogy discusses the
Speaker 1: same claims the same topics, and so really what we
Speaker 1: have with Manson is a character who I think, as
Speaker 1: we said, what military prison the giant prison complex is
Speaker 1: also tied into military complex, and that's also tied into
Speaker 1: the psychiatric complex. And what happens is is that these
Speaker 1: characters are profiled and spotted and then used for different purposes,
Speaker 1: maybe a contract killing, as we said, maybe to kidnap
Speaker 1: kids or people for human trafficking, and what we see
Speaker 1: pretty consistently is that we can raise questions about a
Speaker 1: lot of the psychiatric institutions and rehab centers as possible
Speaker 1: programming locales. And that's even come up in pop fiction.
Speaker 1: If you watched True Detective season two, that seems to
Speaker 1: hint at the Esslin Institute as well as Thomas Pincheon's
Speaker 1: Inherent Vice with the film version, as well with Joaquin Phoenix.
Speaker 1: You know, both of these seem to show this high
Speaker 1: level mind control type stuff and these shadowy CIA type
Speaker 1: figures in the background. So we always see these these
Speaker 1: contradictions pop up, and this is what is noted here
Speaker 1: by Dave. On page one, he says it defies explanation
Speaker 1: that men such as Manson or Jim Jones or David
Speaker 1: Koresh have all stumbled upon the secret of brainwashing and
Speaker 1: mind controlling their followers, but the CIA does not have
Speaker 1: this ability. So the mainstream story is a flat out
Speaker 1: contradiction because they always say that these cult leaders and
Speaker 1: serial killers and whoever, that they have all these powers
Speaker 1: of mind control and brainwashing. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: the establishment says that the CIA was never successful and
Speaker 1: did not really perfect these mind control, brainwashing programs. So again,
Speaker 1: obviously that's a bunch of blooney. So twenty four people
Speaker 1: were killed in the nineteen seventies by we're told by
Speaker 1: insane asylum people that had been released from the Vacaville facility. Now,
Speaker 1: why would they release all these nutcases from Vaukaville. Well,
Speaker 1: probably as part of this larger American domestic version of
Speaker 1: the Phoenix program. And what he talks about in the
Speaker 1: last sections of the book is that the thesis is
Speaker 1: that the psychological warfare pattern that was tested in Vietnam
Speaker 1: on the viet Cong, the whole point of it was
Speaker 1: just to scare the crap out of the viet Cong
Speaker 1: and make them lose morale and break their will. And
Speaker 1: that is exactly what makes perfect sense in terms of
Speaker 1: understanding that program in terms of the US, in terms
Speaker 1: of American domestic experience over this several decades of what
Speaker 1: is supposed to be the all the serial killers everywhere,
Speaker 1: so we get more characters like Herb Mullin. This is
Speaker 1: a guy who apparently went into had multiple personalities, and
Speaker 1: he went into the Marines and was going to be
Speaker 1: a killer, and he went into this kind of an
Speaker 1: assassination type program, and this is reminiscent of full Metal Jacket.
Speaker 1: This guy and apparently he went to some locale in Maui, Hawaii,
Speaker 1: which is reported to be one of these facilities where
Speaker 1: they train assassins. And if this sounds too far vetched,
Speaker 1: remember in the eighties and prior to that, we had
Speaker 1: the whole story of the Latin American death squads, right
Speaker 1: where the CIA set up these training camps for death squads,
Speaker 1: which would by extension, also be connected to the Phoenix program. Right,
Speaker 1: this idea of training professional assassins and basically psychos who
Speaker 1: because their psychos lose their mind eventually. Right. So now
Speaker 1: you might say, well, but I thought you said that
Speaker 1: there were no there weren't programmed assassins. Now that's some
Speaker 1: people's view, that's not my view. What I always said
Speaker 1: was that there are both. They did all these programs,
Speaker 1: and they ran all these tests during these periods right
Speaker 1: from the forties and the fifties sixties. And this includes
Speaker 1: all the psychiatric stuff, all the hypnosis, all the drug testing,
Speaker 1: basically what we call him kildra, all of that was done,
Speaker 1: and it eventually morphs into electronic implants and bio warfare DARPA. Right,
Speaker 1: this is the last chapter of John Marx's book. So
Speaker 1: that's all an outworking of that, and it's really just
Speaker 1: controlling the human domain. All right. We remember this program
Speaker 1: that was mentioned in connection to Jade Helm a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago. Really that's the same idea of what
Speaker 1: in Culture was about, where the totality of human experience,
Speaker 1: which is not just the individual psyche, but also the
Speaker 1: collective collective sociology, collective psyche as well. So the argument
Speaker 1: then would be that what happens is when you study
Speaker 1: the individual cases of these different characters, these different psychos,
Speaker 1: and how to entrain them and depattern them and then
Speaker 1: reprogram and so forth the stuff that you and Cameron
Speaker 1: was doing, that leads to various ideas of what you
Speaker 1: could do to the mass psyche. And that's the role
Speaker 1: that mass media plays. And so that's my view of it.
Speaker 1: My view of it is that they did all these
Speaker 1: situations with actual guys and actual people, and hence Doug
Speaker 1: Valentine's book Phoenix Program and then or in the Latin
Speaker 1: American desk squads and all this kind of stuff, and
Speaker 1: then they what was more useful than you know, just
Speaker 1: a contract killer or some crazy guy that you could
Speaker 1: get to kidnap people or whatever they because that's a million,
Speaker 1: you know, millions and millions of dollars involved in orgon
Speaker 1: harvesting and human trafficking. Right, So, but all of that data,
Speaker 1: that information, all the studies that were done, could then
Speaker 1: be used for a large scale social engineering. And you say, well,
Speaker 1: who would be interested in that? Well, think about the
Speaker 1: Rand Corporation, right, the Rand Corporation would be interested in
Speaker 1: taking all that data, collating it and figuring out, well,
Speaker 1: how could we use this for the so called war
Speaker 1: and terror? You see, So the same ideas of basically
Speaker 1: inducing threat and terrorizing the public with Cold War and
Speaker 1: serial killers and assassins. And by the way, the serial
Speaker 1: killer stuff actually ties well with the Cold War assassins stuff,
Speaker 1: and the right because of Sir and sirhan Oh, we're
Speaker 1: supposed to believe he was this you know, trained occultist
Speaker 1: assassin and he went after RFK and oh Lee Harvey Oswald.
Speaker 1: He's a programmed assassin that the Soviets scent, right according
Speaker 1: to the mainstream story I'm saying, right, And so this
Speaker 1: is well, this is all a lot of Boloney obviously,
Speaker 1: and I doubt that we'll ever really know the full
Speaker 1: story of either of those cases, but I can guarantee
Speaker 1: you that what we're told in the official story is
Speaker 1: not true and anyway, so what we're starting to see
Speaker 1: is the patterns of certain locations, like the Vaucaville facility,
Speaker 1: which appears to be you know, involved very heavily in this.
Speaker 1: According to Dave's argument, we're seeing the pattern of a
Speaker 1: lot of these guys who are very messed up, are
Speaker 1: into necrophilia, and then they they tend to have alternate personas,
Speaker 1: they tend to have even perhaps demonic issues on page
Speaker 1: one fifty seven. Now, it's not all secret DARPA Voice
Speaker 1: to Skull technology, which some people will say. Who've had
Speaker 1: some people commenting on the introductory video that I made saying, oh,
Speaker 1: this is stupid, there's no none of this is real.
Speaker 1: I don't know what planet you guys are from, but
Speaker 1: I mean, have you ever been around crazy people? I have?
Speaker 1: And I'm talking about people who, you know, I have
Speaker 1: had serious psychological problems. I've had them in my family,
Speaker 1: not me, but family members who have been prescribed as
Speaker 1: serious psychoactive drugs, who've been on these for a long time.
Speaker 1: I've had friends on these who go nuts try to
Speaker 1: commit suicide. There. This is not all fake. And if
Speaker 1: you honestly, literally think that it is, I don't know
Speaker 1: what planet you live on or where you're from. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've seen people in my family try to kill themselves
Speaker 1: from these kinds of drugs. So I'm just speaking here
Speaker 1: of like the psychiatric you know, antidepressant type stuff. And
Speaker 1: you know, in my younger days, when you be around
Speaker 1: people who are on drugs and partying and whatnot, and
Speaker 1: you just see people go nuts and something else takes over.
Speaker 1: And if you think that that's all fake, well, number one,
Speaker 1: that's a mental problem on your part. It's not all fake.
Speaker 1: If you think that it's merely something random or chaotic,
Speaker 1: and you don't think that the establishment has studied the stuff,
Speaker 1: well then you're just naive. But you know, we think
Speaker 1: of movies that tie into this kind of stuff, which
Speaker 1: is interesting because Natural Born Killers, you know, Quentin Tarantino
Speaker 1: Oliver Stone film that actually deals with this notion. It
Speaker 1: points out the absurdity of how the mainstream media actually
Speaker 1: makes the serial killers into stars. And now that was
Speaker 1: done on purpose, that was not just ratings and sensationalism,
Speaker 1: but also, as I said, to really prop up the
Speaker 1: mythology of the serial killer. Another pattern that Dave notices
Speaker 1: is what he claims that I'd never heard of this,
Speaker 1: but he says that there's this idea in training people
Speaker 1: to be killers or assassins of blooding, and that it's
Speaker 1: the same idea that you know that pemps use when
Speaker 1: they break people. When pimps break, they hose blooding is
Speaker 1: the idea of traumatizing a person who might be a
Speaker 1: future assassin early on through some experience of the gruesome. Right,
Speaker 1: So maybe they work at a morgue and they're constantly
Speaker 1: seeing cadavers, or they you know, like the stories that
Speaker 1: we hear about traumatized youth that they have their dog,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe they're in a cult and the cult
Speaker 1: kills their dog in front of them and this traumatizes
Speaker 1: them when they're a kid. I think this is true.
Speaker 1: I know somebody who had something very traumatic happened to
Speaker 1: them when they were very young. In this case, it
Speaker 1: was accidental when they were about four, and as a result,
Speaker 1: they have had very serious problems with lack of empathy.
Speaker 1: And I guess you might consider it like mild psychopathy
Speaker 1: as a result of a youth traumatization, and I would
Speaker 1: I think that it's you know, the prevailing literature that
Speaker 1: I've read on this tends to say, oh, well, it's
Speaker 1: a defense mechanism that the brain and acts, and I
Speaker 1: think that makes sense. That seems to line up with
Speaker 1: my experience. But Dave goes back into mentioning some of
Speaker 1: the guys that we've touched on many times. You've studied
Speaker 1: altars and all this stuff with the doctor Esterbrooks and
Speaker 1: his hypnosis work, and people that have studied a d
Speaker 1: ID and MPD, and he mentions the false Memory Syndrome
Speaker 1: foundation again as the primary characters who deny ritual abuse,
Speaker 1: and they are of course connected to the CIA, very
Speaker 1: shady characters. Colin Ross has a lot of information on
Speaker 1: this that's really good critiquing these characters. He mentioned the
Speaker 1: Simionese Liberation operation as some kind of sciop, either a
Speaker 1: CIA sy op research or something kind of a large
Speaker 1: scale psychological warfare operation that really got the SWAT team
Speaker 1: stuff going, the SLA incident and the Charles Whittemore incident
Speaker 1: at the University of Texas. If I recall or the
Speaker 1: instances he lists as really kicking off the call for
Speaker 1: local police departments to be completely militarized and in some
Speaker 1: degree federalized and to start having these swat teams. Then
Speaker 1: we move on to and also necrophilia is interesting as
Speaker 1: a consistent pattern, which is interesting because there's this weird
Speaker 1: obsession with sex and death that probably is what made
Speaker 1: these guys profiled at a younger age. And this is
Speaker 1: really what the whole institutional system, medical system that all
Speaker 1: that it kind of exists to education system, right to
Speaker 1: find these kinds of psycho freak weirdos again who can
Speaker 1: be used. So this goes on with you know, maybe
Speaker 1: these guys were sent to maybe they're so they're abused,
Speaker 1: and then they're known for necrophilia or some kind of
Speaker 1: weird practice like this, and then maybe they're sent to
Speaker 1: an institution to be you know, counseled or whatever. And
Speaker 1: then this gets flagged. Right, so, oh, here here's the
Speaker 1: guy we found one. He likes gay sex, he likes
Speaker 1: killing animals, he likes necrophilia. He could be very useful, right,
Speaker 1: this kind of idea to the dark side of the
Speaker 1: deep state, and this brings in the character John Wayne
Speaker 1: Gacy and John Wayne Gacy is was connected to local police.
Speaker 1: He was like this adjunct cop and he was using
Speaker 1: that cop you know status to get access, I guess
Speaker 1: you could say, and cover to the local gay boys
Speaker 1: and bring them in and uh, you know, raped them
Speaker 1: and tortured them and killed them. And then what we
Speaker 1: have is the the weird instance of him meeting with
Speaker 1: the a as a Democratic Party dude, very well connected
Speaker 1: apparently in the Chicago area. If I recall, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of details here. It's sometimes it's difficult to recall
Speaker 1: every one of these details as to you know, who's
Speaker 1: in where and what doing what. But gay Cy was
Speaker 1: a very prominent j C. And so his connections to
Speaker 1: the j c's, which is one of these local, you know,
Speaker 1: rotary club club type things that helped him have cover,
Speaker 1: as well as these connections to the police. And apparently
Speaker 1: and this was actually in the movie presentation too. There's
Speaker 1: a TV movie with Brian Denahey playing Gaysey that is
Speaker 1: worth watching. It's not a great movie, but it's like
Speaker 1: four hours long, but kind of roughly follows the arguments
Speaker 1: that Dave makes, and that shows. What it doesn't show
Speaker 1: is that Gaysey claimed to have an alternate personality named
Speaker 1: Jack Hanley who would take him over and commit the killings,
Speaker 1: and that there possibly were other police involved in that.
Speaker 1: This is why it was covered up for so long, right,
Speaker 1: So it wasn't just in other words, it might have
Speaker 1: been a situation where there was a prostitution ring of
Speaker 1: boys and drugs, and maybe local officials were involved, including Gaycy,
Speaker 1: and so this is why it's covered up. And then
Speaker 1: anytime there was a threat of somebody ratting or trying
Speaker 1: to expose it, that would then lead to the murder.
Speaker 1: You see, that's a possibility, and that's not it's kind
Speaker 1: of hinted at in the movie if you watch the
Speaker 1: Henry Portrait of a Killer movie from I don't know,
Speaker 1: like nineteen ninety or somewhere in there, and it's hinted
Speaker 1: at that the higher ups, like the police chief and
Speaker 1: these other guys in you know, the big city area,
Speaker 1: they were covering it up or they were trying to
Speaker 1: squash the investigation of the local police. So interesting connections
Speaker 1: to investigations done by the private investigator, the famous Hollywood
Speaker 1: private investigator, Anthony Pelicano. And Pelicano was I'm trying to
Speaker 1: remember how he says he was connected to Gaysey. Following
Speaker 1: the disappearance of one of Gasey's employees, Greg Godsnick Godzick,
Speaker 1: Gaysey was not questioned by police. Oddzig's frustrated parents turned
Speaker 1: to help to Anthony Okay there so they went to
Speaker 1: Anthony Pelicano. Anthony Pelicano never checked out Gaysey and later
Speaker 1: claimed that he had never been given this name. Godzig
Speaker 1: was a portly seen very much alive after his reported abduction,
Speaker 1: as was one other victim of Gaysey, John Sayzick, and
Speaker 1: one of the bizarre coincidences that seems to surround many
Speaker 1: serial killer cases, the Godsdick home was burglarized the night
Speaker 1: before the story of John Wayne Gacy's arrest hit the airwaves.
Speaker 1: The family of victim Rick Johnson was convinced that Rick
Speaker 1: was abducted by Sun Young Moon in the Unification Church,
Speaker 1: an organization heavily steeped in my control and with connections
Speaker 1: to South Korea's CIA or the k CIA, which was
Speaker 1: set up by the CIA. So that's interesting because yeah,
Speaker 1: the Moon the Moonies have these connections to the Bush family,
Speaker 1: and then you know it's obviously a mind control CIA
Speaker 1: type thing, and then we get to Ted Bundy. Ted
Speaker 1: Bundy of course has these weird fetishists and he is
Speaker 1: connected to He was a young GOP, rising young GOP. Now,
Speaker 1: excuse me, Ted Bundy is supporting Nelson Rockefeller, as we mentioned.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, I'm thinking of Dahmer, but both of them
Speaker 1: are rising GOP guys. Right, skulls were found in the
Speaker 1: case of Ted, and this is where the FBI comes
Speaker 1: in and sets up the Ted squad, and this is
Speaker 1: really kicking off this FBI pattern of or promotion of
Speaker 1: looking for this serial killer. And Ted Bundy says, Oh,
Speaker 1: there's other in on this, of course, but they're not
Speaker 1: ever explained or mentioned. No photos were apparently allowed in
Speaker 1: the prosecution of Ted, which is interesting because Dave argues
Speaker 1: that that might have implicated other police, other officials who
Speaker 1: were probably involved with Ted, but we don't know. California, Texas, Florida,
Speaker 1: this is the standard areas of the serial killers, and
Speaker 1: then of course Chicago, I guess as well. These are
Speaker 1: of course known drug and mob areas. So another one
Speaker 1: of these characters that pops up serial killer, sicko, pedo,
Speaker 1: self mutilation, GEKT, What is this guy's name Robin Gekt,
Speaker 1: and he is a multiple personality guy who was probably abused,
Speaker 1: and he was into beastiality, which, by the way, you
Speaker 1: can see now that the promotion of bestiality which is
Speaker 1: happening in university sects, shops on campuses, by the way,
Speaker 1: they're promoting bestiality. You can find those articles online at
Speaker 1: Campus Reform and other sites. You can see that the
Speaker 1: promotion of bestiality, which I believe Adorno talked about, this
Speaker 1: is all towards the depersonalization and dehumanization of society. So
Speaker 1: they the serial killer stuff is very close to that
Speaker 1: Frankfurt School type toxic culture stuff because the promotion of
Speaker 1: the whole serial killer mythos and ethos as we just
Speaker 1: saw this checking the video clip with Ben Swann talking
Speaker 1: about how she wants to marry Manson. Obviously she's wanting
Speaker 1: to make money from it because she's going to, you know,
Speaker 1: put his remains in a on display or whatever. But
Speaker 1: what's interesting is that the well, in the case of Ghekt,
Speaker 1: for example, we have another instance of of Satanism. And
Speaker 1: so the idea here is that Ghekt may have been
Speaker 1: connected to the Ripper Crew another one of these outfits
Speaker 1: that's famous for killing a lot of people. Another character
Speaker 1: of the Sunset Stripped Murder was maybe Lieutenant Franklin Clark,
Speaker 1: who's give birth to Doug Clark. Uh, and another series
Speaker 1: of you know, Doug Clark. Another bunch of sickos, and
Speaker 1: it just goes on and on on. I mean that
Speaker 1: it's kind of gross to continue talking about all these
Speaker 1: guys and there they're practices. But what's funny is that
Speaker 1: they get sent to a lot of times these military
Speaker 1: and medical facilities because of their you know, part of
Speaker 1: the v A or whatever, because they're former military guys,
Speaker 1: which could suggest you know, programming and whatnot, and that
Speaker 1: that also could suggest the Phoenix program, which Dave McGowan
Speaker 1: mentions in the case of Richard Ramirez, the Nights Talker.
Speaker 1: And what's interesting about Ramirez is that there's all this oblivious,
Speaker 1: you know, occult black magic stuff that was even in
Speaker 1: the mainstream news, but it's just kind of been oh, well,
Speaker 1: that's just you know the proclivities of him as an individual,
Speaker 1: eccentric weirdo. Well why does it keep popping up? And
Speaker 1: could it suggest you know more, I mean, maybe the
Speaker 1: forty deaths attributed to I guess Ramirez, maybe he wasn't
Speaker 1: the only one doing that, right, And I mean, do
Speaker 1: you really expect people in some SCO cult not to
Speaker 1: frame some idiot in their cult? Right, So if they
Speaker 1: find like if you have a cult and you know
Speaker 1: you're doing something like drug trafficking or human trafficking, the
Speaker 1: same same as the situation with the that I mentioned
Speaker 1: with gay Cy and the JCS and the cops. Right,
Speaker 1: what do you what are you going to do? Like
Speaker 1: you understand criminology, you know how to get away with things.
Speaker 1: So what might you do? Well, you might find some
Speaker 1: dupe who gets interested in your cult and you realize, man,
Speaker 1: this dude is f and nuts, right, you know he
Speaker 1: was probably abused. Maybe you have cult members that know
Speaker 1: about him, family members, you know they know about Oh
Speaker 1: this is my cousin Richard. He's a total nutcase, right,
Speaker 1: And this was the case and that with Richard Ramirez
Speaker 1: was his uncle or somebody knew about him, and so
Speaker 1: he kind of wrote roped him into this network. And
Speaker 1: then you get him and you use him for whatever
Speaker 1: your purposes are. And then if it comes up that
Speaker 1: oh uh, you know he's caught or he screws botched job,
Speaker 1: or he screws something up. Well, then he takes the
Speaker 1: heat for all the killing, right, And meanwhile you've been
Speaker 1: using him and you've been in doctrineing him and telling
Speaker 1: him that, oh, you know, you're the enemy of our
Speaker 1: cult is x y Z and he's going to rat
Speaker 1: us out or for whatever. So you know what you
Speaker 1: do these people, because they're nuts, they don't have no
Speaker 1: idea what's going on. They probably do have altars, right,
Speaker 1: so they they serve a purpose, is what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to say. And if you if people in the establishment
Speaker 1: know all this, then if the cult or the group
Speaker 1: or whatever has members in the establishment, then that's how
Speaker 1: these things, if you know, could be covered up. Now,
Speaker 1: another one of these characters who he mentioned some of
Speaker 1: the guys who were into collecting body parts of the collector,
Speaker 1: this type of gross stuff the Collector. I didn't realize
Speaker 1: this because but I've read John Fowls's famous novel, which
Speaker 1: if you do grad studies in literature, it'll be on
Speaker 1: a list that you're supposed to read The Magas, and
Speaker 1: I read the Vegas, and I've mentioned it in my book,
Speaker 1: and you know this is because it suggests the idea
Speaker 1: of very rich people being able to engineer large scale
Speaker 1: psy ops. And John Fowls apparently wrote another book though,
Speaker 1: called The Collector, which is about some psycho who likes
Speaker 1: to collect things, or he doesn't just collect butterflies and
Speaker 1: you know, staple them to a corkboard or something. He collects.
Speaker 1: He starts with that, and then he I guess, he
Speaker 1: starts collecting body parts. And so this what's this guy's name?
Speaker 1: It's crazy. First one, Gary Heydnik, is the next person
Speaker 1: in Gary is connected to this is one of the
Speaker 1: downsides of Day's book is that it kind of it
Speaker 1: goes through so much information that I kind of get
Speaker 1: lost in who's who. So then there's like these other guys,
Speaker 1: Leonard Lake and Charles ing Ing, which I guess is
Speaker 1: like Filipino or something. But these guys were filming bondage
Speaker 1: porn and then apparently got into snuff films, and the
Speaker 1: idea was that, oh, they were being used by a
Speaker 1: larger network, and I think that then the Hydnik character
Speaker 1: was also had multiple personalities, and then we come to
Speaker 1: the next guy, Bobby Burdella. Bobby Burdella was a military
Speaker 1: guy and he got into I think I can't remember
Speaker 1: if he's maybe he wasn't military. Apparently he was just
Speaker 1: a hood and then he got into body parts and cannibalism,
Speaker 1: sort of eating people, and he set up a house
Speaker 1: of horrors and Bobby Burdella, let's see, okay, so who
Speaker 1: comes the CIA people come in to try to solve
Speaker 1: this case. Yeah, Bobby Burdella was kind of doing the
Speaker 1: same thing as Gacy, except he was grabbing boys, drugging
Speaker 1: them and raping them and torturing them, and supposedly one
Speaker 1: of them got away. And then we've got Leonard Lake,
Speaker 1: Charles ng Or drugging people and doing the same thing.
Speaker 1: And then Heraldo if you remember his videos and his
Speaker 1: report which I've watched, those those are interesting where they
Speaker 1: covered the occult crimes in late eighties early nineties, satanic
Speaker 1: panic stuff, and Heroldo actually brings up some of the
Speaker 1: esoteric and occult stuff in relationship to Bobby Bardella. And
Speaker 1: then two people want the CIA guy, Troy Cole and
Speaker 1: Michael Akino come on Heraldo and debunk it and say, no,
Speaker 1: none of that exists, that there's no such thing, which
Speaker 1: is preposterous. But this is what Dave says. So another
Speaker 1: interesting thing that I never heard. Dave says that the
Speaker 1: that Roy Rayden of the Cotton Club murder, this is
Speaker 1: direct connect to Hollywood, was killed by a ritual execution
Speaker 1: shot repealing the head by three of magazine publisher Larry
Speaker 1: Flint's former bodyguards, and one of them was Charles Manson
Speaker 1: associate Bill Mintzer. So here you have the connection to
Speaker 1: high level porn, the Cotton Club murders. And then yeah,
Speaker 1: Gary Heidnik, as I said, so he's a vet. And
Speaker 1: what's interesting about him is that he becomes this United
Speaker 1: Church of God, some church of the of the ministers
Speaker 1: of some weird Protestant evangelical sect, and that he sets
Speaker 1: up as his he's the minister of a bishop, and
Speaker 1: he sets up torture dungeons, and he starts he works
Speaker 1: at some mental health facility, and he starts kidnapping retarded
Speaker 1: black women, and he tortures him in the dungeon. And
Speaker 1: Gary Dave claims was used in military LSD experiments. This
Speaker 1: is pages two fifty eight, two fifteen nine, And this
Speaker 1: was at a site in Germany. And it's the same
Speaker 1: locale that other supposed killers were paramilitary guys were trained,
Speaker 1: we're told. So interesting. Now, then we come to Jeffrey Dahmer.
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Dahmer gets the connection. He has the weird connections
Speaker 1: to high level GOP people when he's young. So his
Speaker 1: senior class trip, Jeffrey Dahmer was somehow able to make
Speaker 1: a call on a payphone and he gets his entire
Speaker 1: senior class, a VIP tour of Walter Mondale's office and
Speaker 1: a visit by prominent writer Art Buchwald. How would this
Speaker 1: aspiring young GOP serial killer boy have such impressive, impressive
Speaker 1: contacts in Washington has never been explained. And here we
Speaker 1: come again with the gay bars and the gay guys
Speaker 1: and the necrophilia. And there are stories, at least there's
Speaker 1: reports of Dahmer was possessed and people thought he had
Speaker 1: he was actually possessed, and that he had these alternate
Speaker 1: personas and he would watch movies like Actresses to Over
Speaker 1: and whatever, and he would like rock back and forth
Speaker 1: watching them, and he was into eating the dead. And
Speaker 1: the only thing that the media had a tendency to
Speaker 1: talk about was a dabbling in Satanism, but Dave says
Speaker 1: that it was more than a dabbling, but they just
Speaker 1: covered this up. And next character, Herb Baumeister, another young
Speaker 1: GOP Navy connected kid, has all the same ritual abuse
Speaker 1: case of connections to you know, military programs of killers
Speaker 1: and so forth. And so the thesis again, we see
Speaker 1: the patterns that are here there should be pretty obvious.
Speaker 1: But I guess if you're you know, if your mainstream
Speaker 1: media and you don't know any of this stuff, and
Speaker 1: you think that there's no such thing as alters in
Speaker 1: d ID and MPD, and if you don't believe in evil,
Speaker 1: then you're going to be already preconditioned to not think
Speaker 1: that the stuff is real. And what you do, except
Speaker 1: is reel, is going to be conditioned by what you've
Speaker 1: seen in pop culture in the movies, which what happens
Speaker 1: in the movies is that they'll take some of the
Speaker 1: real stuff and then they'll like focus and draw the
Speaker 1: attention over to away from the occult stuff at times
Speaker 1: to just the lone crazy guy, or they don't raise
Speaker 1: the questions about connections to you know, high up level officials. This,
Speaker 1: by the way, was explained excuse me was detailed in
Speaker 1: the first season of True Detective, where they this weird
Speaker 1: a redneck inbred family or cousins of the family. They
Speaker 1: take the hit, the fall, and meanwhile the you know,
Speaker 1: very wealthy, well connected sech goes don't get in trouble.
Speaker 1: That's mentioned at the end of season one of True Detective,
Speaker 1: which I do recommend, by the way, Now, the profilers
Speaker 1: and the patsies. In this concluding section, Dave makes the
Speaker 1: argument that, look, this was basically a lot of funding ror.
Speaker 1: The whole serial killer phenomenon was great for Hollywood box
Speaker 1: office sales, book sales, It was the source of a
Speaker 1: lot of police bureau you know, getting funding, f FBIO
Speaker 1: getting funding. And really what it was was a larger
Speaker 1: psychological warfare operations. And it's perfectly mirrored in Phoenix program,
Speaker 1: the death Squads. And it serves the private prison industrial complex,
Speaker 1: which makes sense because a lot of the military contractors,
Speaker 1: you know, they maybe they go from military then they
Speaker 1: go into private prison security work, and so you know,
Speaker 1: obviously you're gonna have a lot of corrupt, sicko people
Speaker 1: in there, and that makes perfect sense. And the whole
Speaker 1: idea of profiling this whole so called science which doesn't
Speaker 1: really make sense, it's not very consistent. According to Dave, McGowan.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that there's not profiling. There is. There
Speaker 1: are profile else to killers, but the the FBI bureau,
Speaker 1: right that's set up Bureau of Scientific Bureau or I'm
Speaker 1: trying to remember the name of it, but there's some
Speaker 1: Behavioral Science Unit BSUs that's set up as a result
Speaker 1: of this. You know, it doesn't have the best record,
Speaker 1: according to to Dave and I'm gonna pass over the
Speaker 1: John man A Ramsey section. I did read that, but
Speaker 1: you have to that was just so weird. I don't
Speaker 1: know what to make of it. Sounds like it looks
Speaker 1: like it's probably some kind of elite pedo sex ring.
Speaker 1: You can read that make your own judgment there. Sean
Speaker 1: Helton also has a lengthy analysis I believe that he
Speaker 1: wrote at twenty first Century Wire covering the John Maine
Speaker 1: Ramsey case and again, what do we see Satanan ritual
Speaker 1: abuse covered up. One guy I want to mention at
Speaker 1: the end, who's curious is the character of Jean Bodel Bocasa,
Speaker 1: who is apparently was apparently the puppet of French intelligence
Speaker 1: in Central Africa, and he set up the Central African
Speaker 1: Republic and he declared himself emperor and you should go
Speaker 1: watch that. I watched two or three documentaries on this
Speaker 1: guy who is just so ridiculous. He was a cannibal,
Speaker 1: which is interesting. The Bocasa would have these lavish parties
Speaker 1: in the palace and they would eat people. He would
Speaker 1: eat his enemies and people that he conquered, and reportedly
Speaker 1: when he went to Libya he fled when his empire collapsed,
Speaker 1: he fled to Libya and they still had eating people parties,
Speaker 1: cannibal parties there. So you get into the realm of
Speaker 1: the billionaires, okay, and the so called elite, and they're
Speaker 1: into this really sick stuff. And there are billionaires. They
Speaker 1: do exist, and they do like six stuff. And I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised after reading Dave's book if it's not
Speaker 1: really like hostile, if it's not really like Loan survivor
Speaker 1: whatever that remember that movie with Iced Tea, you know,
Speaker 1: where they get people and they hunt them from the nineties,
Speaker 1: something like that. I think maybe him and Gary Busey
Speaker 1: or somebody crazy, you know. That's what we're looking at
Speaker 1: here is elite depravity, something that we've elite degenerously deviance,
Speaker 1: something that we've talked about a lot at Jason Elysis.
Speaker 1: And why why do we talk about that, Well, because
Speaker 1: it shows the abusiveness of the system and the establishment
Speaker 1: that the people at the tip top tend to be
Speaker 1: bad guys. They're not there to help you or protect
Speaker 1: you or save you. Now, does that mean that that's
Speaker 1: because of highierarchy itself. I don't think so. The problem
Speaker 1: is a hierarchy. The problem is human pravity. The problem
Speaker 1: is humans are fallen and the reality of evil and
Speaker 1: the reality of spiritual evil. This is my conclusion on
Speaker 1: all this. It points us back to God, It points
Speaker 1: us back to the Bible. The world that the Bible presents,
Speaker 1: you know, is a world where demons are real, angels
Speaker 1: are real, spirits are real. They influence our world, our reality,
Speaker 1: and there is good and evil. And the modern world says,
Speaker 1: all that's stupid, that doesn't exist, haha. And then here
Speaker 1: we are confronted with the reality of evil and these
Speaker 1: kinds of cases of you know, organ trade and cults
Speaker 1: and human sacrifice of war and all this stuff, and
Speaker 1: the response is either denial or the lame, anthetic, empty
Speaker 1: attempt to try to explain it all through psychiatric problems
Speaker 1: and throwing chemicals at it. But you're never going to
Speaker 1: solve a spiritual problem in human beings with chemicals. And
Speaker 1: that's why all the you know, pharmaceutical stuff doesn't work.
Speaker 1: It might work in a sense to maybe put people
Speaker 1: in a day used catatonic state or something to where
Speaker 1: they're not able to go nuts because they're so drugged,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't solve the problem, right, It just treats
Speaker 1: the symptoms. The symptoms are of man's wickedness and depravity
Speaker 1: is that he is fallen. Right. The source of the
Speaker 1: problem I'm saying is that he's fallen and the outwork
Speaker 1: these evil acts are outworkings of that. And when they
Speaker 1: manifest in these very extreme cases of depravity, you know,
Speaker 1: it really is just show showing us the reality of
Speaker 1: spiritual evil. But any society that can't recognize spiritual evil,
Speaker 1: and I would say that that's societies that are you know,
Speaker 1: the reason that we have so many material blessings in
Speaker 1: the West that we feel like all that stuff doesn't
Speaker 1: exist anymore. Right, That was the ancient world, medieval world
Speaker 1: had all these superstitions, and then here we are faced
Speaker 1: with real sickos and people say, oh, well, it's just
Speaker 1: all fake. These idiots on the line that claim it's
Speaker 1: all fake. It's not all fake. There's real evil in
Speaker 1: the world, real spiritual evil. And again why why why
Speaker 1: is there all the denial? Well, because the admission of
Speaker 1: it would lead back to the conception of God. Right,
Speaker 1: If there's spiritual evil that's admitted to exist, then well
Speaker 1: then there's probably a God too, and that's what no
Speaker 1: one in the modern world can admit or stand to admit.
Speaker 1: So Program to Kill The Politics of Serial Murder highly
Speaker 1: recommended book. I would say that ninety percent good. A
Speaker 1: couple criticisms of the book. Dave doesn't go into female
Speaker 1: serial killers. There are plenty of those you can go
Speaker 1: I've looked this up, by the way online the profile
Speaker 1: quote profiles or the cases of female serial killers. There
Speaker 1: was that one movie with Charlie the Rohm playing playing
Speaker 1: that one crazy bitch I forget her name. But there's
Speaker 1: also black guys that were serial killers. He does mention
Speaker 1: the Atlanta the Atlanta kidnapper killer guy Wayne Wayne Williams.
Speaker 1: I think it is his name, So that's a black guy.
Speaker 1: But what in other words, what I'm getting at is that
Speaker 1: we have this impression that, oh, the serial killers are
Speaker 1: all these middle aged, creepy white guys. That is not true. Now,
Speaker 1: a lot of these these serial killer guys have tended
Speaker 1: to be the middle aged white guy because a lot
Speaker 1: of guys who would have gone into the special ops
Speaker 1: Phoenix program type stuff were probably more intelligent, you know,
Speaker 1: trained in special forces type stuff. Right. So I mean,
Speaker 1: you can't just you can't just be a brute right
Speaker 1: and get into special forces. You also have to have
Speaker 1: like a certain level i Q and so forth. So
Speaker 1: that would exclude a lot of minorities. And but but
Speaker 1: when we just consider the brutality of serial raping, murder, torture,
Speaker 1: there are plenty of cases of minorities involved in that,
Speaker 1: including Hispanics, including blacks, including women, including Asians too. By
Speaker 1: the way, so this is not a racial issue I'm saying,
Speaker 1: but I'm but what's funny is that if you go
Speaker 1: to look I was doing this a year ago, when
Speaker 1: I was researching some of this, I went to Psychology
Speaker 1: magazine and when you look at what's psychologist pop thing
Speaker 1: right that talks about serial killers, they literally tell you
Speaker 1: that it's all white males. I'm sorry, but there are,
Speaker 1: for example, there are women who've had multiple abortions. I
Speaker 1: would count that as a serial killing, right, based on
Speaker 1: my worldview. But no, that's not taken into account when
Speaker 1: politically correct Psychology Today magazine says that serial killers all
Speaker 1: white dudes, middle aged white dudes. No, it's been and
Speaker 1: the problem the issue there is that sin and evil
Speaker 1: are not race specific. All the races, all of the
Speaker 1: tribes of man are prone to temptation and evil. And
Speaker 1: now you might could argue that certain people groups and
Speaker 1: races might be prone to certain evils. You could argue that.
Speaker 4: But.
Speaker 1: You know, there are with white dudes in power just
Speaker 1: as much as there are wicked people in Indonesia and Malaysia,
Speaker 1: you know, having weird sex parties. Everybody knows about Singapore
Speaker 1: and Malaysia and all the sex stuff there. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just really gross, sick stuff, right, and this goes
Speaker 1: on everywhere. I know a girl who was involved in
Speaker 1: djaying for very large techno parties in Japan, and I
Speaker 1: believe her when she says this, But she talked about
Speaker 1: some of the stuff that the Japanese rich guys were
Speaker 1: into and it's I'm not going to repeat it because
Speaker 1: it's so gross. Now she didn't say she did this,
Speaker 1: but she you know, she had been to parties where
Speaker 1: really gross stuff went down, which I won't mention it's
Speaker 1: just nasty, but you could you can imagine that. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about millionaire, billionaire guys that are into things
Speaker 1: stuff to do with human feces. Okay, so I mean that,
Speaker 1: and in a way, that's I guess quote as sort
Speaker 1: of tame compared to the idea of actually just killing
Speaker 1: people and you know, murdering them, all of which is disgusting.
Speaker 1: But still this is what we're talking about. So it's
Speaker 1: not hard to believe when you consider, you know what
Speaker 1: other kind of stuff people who you know, they have
Speaker 1: all the money in the world, they don't need, you know,
Speaker 1: that isn't kind of moved to the next sick thing, right,
Speaker 1: It's like the sickest to the sickest. And when you
Speaker 1: look at the art world of the so called elite,
Speaker 1: that's a good window into that world that we're talking
Speaker 1: about here that it's not hard to believe. You know,
Speaker 1: they're into some very gross there's our stuff. So anyway,
Speaker 1: that all to me suggests the reality of the spiritual world.
Speaker 1: And you know, we're we're going to continue to see
Speaker 1: wickedness of this nature, and it will get even worse
Speaker 1: and worse and worse until we realize that there is
Speaker 1: a god in the Bible is real. You know, here's
Speaker 1: this book that actually seems to explain all this very well,
Speaker 1: but nobody wants to believe that. They want to believe,
Speaker 1: you know, ridiculous stupid things. So you've been listening to
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