1 00:00:12,199 --> 00:00:15,599 Speaker 1: You're listening to Jay's Analysis. This is the introduction to 2 00:00:15,679 --> 00:00:19,480 the Jays Analysis podcast. The only authoritative source for Jay's 3 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:25,879 Analysis is Jay's Analysis, Film philosophy, geopolitics, the Esoteric, and 4 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:30,519 much much more satire and comedy too. Now added bonus 5 00:00:30,519 --> 00:00:46,479 for free Jade, I are from Jays Analysis. The next 6 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,439 thing that we're going to do, as I promised, is 7 00:00:50,679 --> 00:00:53,439 Dave McGowan's Program to Kill, an excellent book. I actually 8 00:00:53,439 --> 00:00:56,039 did read it, see my notes as proof. So we're 9 00:00:56,039 --> 00:01:00,399 going to talk about the alternate theories that are possible 10 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,960 when it comes to so called serial killers. And this 11 00:01:03,079 --> 00:01:06,159 is what Dave McAllan presents in the book is a 12 00:01:06,159 --> 00:01:08,840 different thesis as to how it is and why it is. 13 00:01:08,879 --> 00:01:13,120 There was this explosion, you know, post Manson into the 14 00:01:13,159 --> 00:01:16,319 seventies and eighties of the serial killer phenomenon, which then 15 00:01:16,359 --> 00:01:21,239 seemed to transition in the nineties into movies at Hollywood, 16 00:01:21,719 --> 00:01:24,280 and it became a Hollywood thing, and you had all 17 00:01:24,359 --> 00:01:33,079 these serial killer obsessed film theories and plots. You had 18 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,439 all of these serial killer plots, But where were all 19 00:01:36,519 --> 00:01:40,959 the actual serial killers right from the nineties on into today. 20 00:01:41,159 --> 00:01:43,480 Not that many that we hear about at least in 21 00:01:43,519 --> 00:01:45,959 the news, right, So where did all the serial killers go? Well, 22 00:01:46,599 --> 00:01:49,519 Dave's going to give his analysis of several of the 23 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,560 important serial killers from the last several years and what 24 00:01:52,879 --> 00:01:56,200 was probably going on with these guys. What Dave's going 25 00:01:56,239 --> 00:01:59,519 to do is offer a lot of alternative evidence that 26 00:01:59,719 --> 00:02:03,640 is a ignored by mainstream media is and maybe the 27 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,439 standard stories that you hear about these serial killers. And 28 00:02:07,439 --> 00:02:10,240 we're also going to get into the MK Ultra project 29 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,840 and its potential connection to the Phoenix program, which is 30 00:02:14,879 --> 00:02:17,960 also a book by Doug Valentine that we will probably 31 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:22,120 discuss in the near future as well. But for Dave's thesis, 32 00:02:22,159 --> 00:02:24,080 what he's going to propose is that when you look 33 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:28,879 at the military connections of the MK Ulture program, and 34 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,960 this was, of course the programs throughout the forties and 35 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:37,319 fifties and sixties that were known for experimentation into hypnosis, 36 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:42,039 experimentation into truth serums, the stuff that you've probably seen 37 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:46,840 in movies and films. But the real research, of course 38 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,599 has been dubbed into pretty in depth by other writers 39 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,599 like John Marx and his book The Search for the 40 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,400 Mentoring Canada, and we've covered that book at Jays Analysis 41 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:00,719 Dave's book Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon, the Laurel Can Scene, 42 00:03:00,759 --> 00:03:02,800 we've covered that as well, and that deals with the 43 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,360 MK Ultra and of course this book is going to 44 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:07,879 deal with it. And what he's going to propose is 45 00:03:07,879 --> 00:03:10,800 that because of these many military connections, and in fact 46 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,520 that many of the top serial killers had these military 47 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:23,599 intelligence and CIA type connections contract killer connections, that there's 48 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,120 a good possibility that we can look back to something 49 00:03:27,159 --> 00:03:29,400 like the Phoenix program and see that that was probably 50 00:03:29,439 --> 00:03:33,240 connected to the MK Ulture program, and then by extension, 51 00:03:33,319 --> 00:03:37,520 that the serial killer phenomenon might have actually been a 52 00:03:37,719 --> 00:03:42,319 US domestic manifestation of perhaps these guys coming back from 53 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:49,199 their overseas service or being programmed at various clinics through 54 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,120 what we see with doctor Ewan Cameron and the MK 55 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:55,120 Ultra programs, Jose Delgado, Jolly and West. All these figures 56 00:03:55,159 --> 00:03:59,080 that we've seen so long in so called conspiracy circles 57 00:03:59,159 --> 00:04:03,879 be mentioned, but are actually really and truthfully doctor's psychiatrists 58 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,560 right who were running the real in culture programs. So 59 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:12,919 that's the beginning setting for what Dave's writing about. And 60 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:14,800 this is two thousand and four, so this is prior 61 00:04:14,879 --> 00:04:18,120 to things like the BTK killer. So that's another guy, 62 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,000 by the way, who is not in Dave's book, but 63 00:04:20,759 --> 00:04:27,560 had this pedigree of military and killer type, you know background, 64 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,240 And that's really I think it makes a lot more 65 00:04:31,319 --> 00:04:34,639 sense than the home grown killer, which is what we're 66 00:04:35,199 --> 00:04:38,079 taught is really going on with people like Manson or 67 00:04:38,079 --> 00:04:42,279 these kind of characters that they're there these just random 68 00:04:42,439 --> 00:04:46,759 products of a bat upbringing or abuse or something like this. 69 00:04:46,959 --> 00:04:51,120 And another aspect to this that the mainstream media rarely touches, 70 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,199 except maybe in the Manson case I'll kind of talk 71 00:04:53,199 --> 00:04:56,199 a little bit about cults, is that Dave's going to 72 00:04:56,399 --> 00:04:59,879 die pretty deep into research done by other characters like 73 00:05:00,439 --> 00:05:03,560 Maury Terry in The Ultimate Evil, that maybe there were 74 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:08,560 actually more powerful networks and cults in the background behind 75 00:05:08,879 --> 00:05:13,720 people like Berkowitz, people like Henry Lee Lucas, people like 76 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:18,279 Richard Ramirez, the Knights Talker, and Manson, right, something beyond 77 00:05:18,319 --> 00:05:20,920 the processed church. Even I'm not just talking about a cult. 78 00:05:20,959 --> 00:05:23,439 I'm talking about, you know, people with kind of these 79 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:29,199 deep state, dark black side of the black ops world, right, 80 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:33,800 who have a vested interest in maybe using someone like 81 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,600 a psychopathic killer in the case where you might need 82 00:05:38,639 --> 00:05:43,720 to have a professional contract killer can have somebody oft 83 00:05:43,879 --> 00:05:45,839 And Dave's thesis is going to be, of course, in 84 00:05:45,879 --> 00:05:49,720 part that maybe what happens in some of these cases, 85 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,319 and he's going to give us some evidence. It's not 86 00:05:51,399 --> 00:05:57,519 just thesis, but if police have, say an unsolved crime 87 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,800 in certain districts, right, he's not saying is everywhere in 88 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,560 every police district in the US. He's just saying in 89 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:08,160 certain states where you've had the problem of the so 90 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,120 called serial killers, which tends to be for whatever reason, 91 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:16,680 probably connected to Mexico and drugs and whatnot. Florida, Texas 92 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:21,920 and California are the main regions where these serial killers 93 00:06:21,959 --> 00:06:24,399 just pop up. And you know, obviously California is like 94 00:06:24,439 --> 00:06:25,879 a big one, right You have a whole bunch of 95 00:06:25,959 --> 00:06:31,560 serial killers that have had their reign of terror all 96 00:06:31,639 --> 00:06:35,959 right out in California. So the first thing though that 97 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:37,680 he sets it up is the whole idea of the 98 00:06:38,959 --> 00:06:41,680 pedophiles and government, which is interesting because Dave is no 99 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,360 longer around, unfortunately, but in two thousand and four he 100 00:06:45,439 --> 00:06:49,720 was writing about this tendency of these siicos and Satanist 101 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,439 and pedophiles who do seem to occupy, you know, the 102 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,839 important levers of power in various states and in various 103 00:06:58,439 --> 00:07:02,199 corporations and so forth. So that's where he sees that 104 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,560 being connected, because it's kind of a he's painting a 105 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:11,839 picture of the cultural decline that's also related to the 106 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,879 rise of the serial killers. Right, you have the sixties revolution, which, 107 00:07:15,519 --> 00:07:20,120 in weird scenes inside Laurel Kenyon, he argued, was really 108 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:24,680 fostered and aided and abetted by the establishment, Right, Like, 109 00:07:24,759 --> 00:07:28,519 these characters were given record deals that were given a 110 00:07:28,519 --> 00:07:31,439 lot of promotion, a lot of attention. So that suggests 111 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,519 that there was some degree of coordination that they were 112 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,800 propelled to stardom the specific Laurel Kenyon people, like the Doors, 113 00:07:38,839 --> 00:07:42,279 Mamas and Papas, etc. For a reason. And so in 114 00:07:42,319 --> 00:07:45,040 the same way, he's going to point out the odd 115 00:07:45,079 --> 00:07:47,319 connections behind a lot of the serial killers, right in 116 00:07:47,319 --> 00:07:50,120 a similar way to how many of the Laurel Kenyon 117 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,319 bands and so called artists had all these deep state 118 00:07:53,399 --> 00:07:57,639 military family, military intelligence connections. In the same way, Dave's 119 00:07:57,639 --> 00:07:59,079 going to say that a lot of these serial killers 120 00:07:59,079 --> 00:08:01,240 seem to have the same pattern, and that fits with 121 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,680 the idea, with the notion that they would have been 122 00:08:04,759 --> 00:08:08,160 part of, as we said, perhaps the Phoenix program or 123 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:13,000 something akin to it, or something like the Mkulture program. Right, 124 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,480 we think of Ted Kazinski. You know, he had a 125 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,959 stint where he volunteered at Harvard to participate in mk 126 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,199 ultra experiments. That was actually in his obituary in I 127 00:08:22,199 --> 00:08:24,160 believe the LA Times or New York Times. You can 128 00:08:24,199 --> 00:08:26,120 go look that up. But yes, he was actually a 129 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:31,560 willing participant in mkulture research. So if you're wondering why 130 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,720 you get this sort of crazy guy out in the 131 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,559 woods who's warning of the tech takeover, you know, a 132 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,000 long time ago, and we're told that he's the one 133 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,559 who's who's bombing the you know, maybe actually I'll do 134 00:08:42,639 --> 00:08:51,120 my the Uni Bomber. I was actually thinking about doing 135 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,879 a full unibrow and then I would have called it 136 00:08:55,879 --> 00:08:58,000 the unibrow Bomber. I may still do that skit. That 137 00:08:58,039 --> 00:09:00,399 sounds like a lot of fun. But remember these pictures 138 00:09:00,399 --> 00:09:03,720 that you saw of this guy in the nineties and 139 00:09:03,759 --> 00:09:06,679 he would just be like like up on the TV 140 00:09:06,799 --> 00:09:10,679 and they're saying, oh, that's the unibomber, and he he 141 00:09:10,919 --> 00:09:15,159 we know because he sends in you know, these bombs 142 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,799 and he's gonna bomb all these planes. That sounds like 143 00:09:17,799 --> 00:09:20,840 a bunch of bullshit to me, But who knows. Maybe 144 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,279 this guy was really really just totally off his rocker, 145 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:25,679 or maybe he was just living off the grid and 146 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,840 they chose a patsy. But that's gonna be another theme, right, 147 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,960 the unral Unibomber Report. That's gonna be another theme in 148 00:09:33,039 --> 00:09:36,960 Dave's book is the idea of when the police departments 149 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:41,399 are needing to clear up some unsolved cases, maybe they 150 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,039 stack them onto the so called serial killer or the 151 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:50,639 professional hit killer and then voila. Right, serial killer X 152 00:09:50,759 --> 00:09:54,200 y Z with three names. It's always three names. Bobby 153 00:09:54,279 --> 00:09:57,320 Lee Long, Right, he's got two hundred kills, which is 154 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:01,320 hard to believe, But maybe some of those were actually 155 00:10:01,399 --> 00:10:05,960 just stacked on unsolved crimes. The other important aspect to 156 00:10:06,159 --> 00:10:12,159 what Dave talks about is the notion of the serial 157 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:16,360 killer phenomenon being social engineering, that what it had a 158 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:20,840 tendency to do was make everybody very very afraid of 159 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,840 public venues or going out or letting your kids play 160 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,720 this kind of stuff, and that it adomized society because 161 00:10:27,759 --> 00:10:31,840 everybody got this false impression which wasn't actually true. That 162 00:10:31,919 --> 00:10:34,879 there were millions of serial killers out there everywhere, right, 163 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,799 millions of unibombers everywhere. Right. It's kind of the same 164 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,200 with the war on terror, right, it's domestic version of this, 165 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:47,000 that's there's just these psychos just everywhere. And that's not 166 00:10:47,039 --> 00:10:51,600 actually true. Right. There are certain cases where this appears 167 00:10:51,639 --> 00:10:55,720 to be the be true, and these people oftentimes have 168 00:10:55,840 --> 00:11:01,120 these very strange connections to you know, hardcore military killer 169 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,559 family members, et cetera. Maybe they trained them, or they 170 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:08,399 were involved in some sort of cult activity. So stop 171 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,480 being the unibomber there. So maybe you know, in a 172 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,720 lot of these cases, we see that the serial killers 173 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,279 happened to be multiple personality people. And what's neat is 174 00:11:17,279 --> 00:11:22,879 that Dave notes that the chief deniers of multiple personality 175 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:28,000 disassociated identity disorder were actually the CIA people who were 176 00:11:28,039 --> 00:11:31,480 at the False Memory Syndrome Foundation, which is a CIA 177 00:11:31,519 --> 00:11:37,960 funded disinformation outlet that was intended to debunk any idea 178 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:42,080 of ritual abuse. And then so the FBI and these 179 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:46,519 different law enforcement entities would go to these experts who 180 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,720 would then tell them, ohth there's no such thing as 181 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,440 the satanic ritual abuse. That's all made up, right, So 182 00:11:51,759 --> 00:11:55,039 that that's just made up right, a's sensationalism and there's 183 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,639 no real networks or ritual abuse or something like that. 184 00:11:58,759 --> 00:12:01,679 So Dave covers all that which is really interesting. And 185 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,000 this is, of course, I think what I may start 186 00:12:04,039 --> 00:12:06,759 to hon is, instead of the full hour, you know, 187 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,559 do these fifteen minutes summaries, because people are a lot 188 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,960 more willing to share fifteen minute things than they are 189 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,320 forty five minute, one hour things, which for the listeners 190 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,480 you're still going to get. The subscribers, you're still going 191 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:25,200 to get the full experience, where we will talk about 192 00:12:25,279 --> 00:12:28,480 the totality of the book in the review and the analysis, 193 00:12:28,519 --> 00:12:30,279 and of course I'm always going to recommend that people 194 00:12:30,399 --> 00:12:33,840 go by the actual book. My analysis and review is 195 00:12:33,879 --> 00:12:36,960 not a substitute. Is just a survey in the same 196 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,320 way that we might discuss any work of literature or 197 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,679 something like that. So you're going to see that a 198 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,279 lot of these serial killers have high level political connections. 199 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:49,039 Why would that be? Why would Rosalind Carter write the 200 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,360 first Lady be meeting with John Wayne Gacy? Right? And 201 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,039 this is like photos of this This is a famous 202 00:12:55,039 --> 00:12:58,159 picture which I didn't know about until I heard Dave 203 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,720 get some interviews and talk about book. And then when 204 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,120 I read the book, I was just like, you can 205 00:13:03,159 --> 00:13:06,960 find this online. Why would Ted Bundy be, you know, 206 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:12,279 working adamantly for the Nelson Rockefeller campaign. Right, he's very interested. 207 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,159 I'm not saying that he was new him per se. 208 00:13:14,159 --> 00:13:16,679 I don't know about that, but you know, why is 209 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:21,559 he kind of this rising the GOP guy? Right? And 210 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,120 Dave's talked about that a lot in interviews. So we're 211 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:26,960 going to see a lot of cults are going to 212 00:13:27,039 --> 00:13:29,679 tie into mobs and this is something I've talked about 213 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,240 a lot of jays analysis. And they're going to tie 214 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:35,240 into intelligence agencies. And then so we're starting to see 215 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:39,000 the architecture of the criminal networks and how they work 216 00:13:39,039 --> 00:13:40,960 and the power structure, how it works and so forth. 217 00:13:41,919 --> 00:13:44,519 Now they use these people and what they do is 218 00:13:44,519 --> 00:13:49,279 they will profile for the psychos and then a psycho 219 00:13:49,639 --> 00:13:53,440 is useful? Right? What can we do with this psycho guy? Right? 220 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,759 How what use would Manson perhaps be, what use would 221 00:13:56,759 --> 00:14:00,720 Berkowitz perhaps be? So the psychos are put to the 222 00:14:00,799 --> 00:14:04,000 system's use, right, And that's not to say that that 223 00:14:04,039 --> 00:14:05,960 there aren't psychos. They are. You see, these are the 224 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,120 people who actually were abused. A lot of them were 225 00:14:09,639 --> 00:14:13,519 child prostitutes. They were prostituted out, they were molested. A 226 00:14:13,519 --> 00:14:17,600 lot of them their parents their mom was a prostitute, 227 00:14:17,639 --> 00:14:20,600 and who would like make them watch in the case 228 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,720 of Henry Lee Lucas, and so obviously this guy's damaged, right, 229 00:14:25,679 --> 00:14:27,159 So that's what's happened to a lot of these guys. 230 00:14:27,159 --> 00:14:31,320 And then they become dissociated, right, they have these alternate states, 231 00:14:31,759 --> 00:14:34,799 and even Dave is it willing to kind of give 232 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,919 the possibility or or halfway admit in some some sections 233 00:14:37,919 --> 00:14:41,120 of the book, maybe these they're also kind of possessed, right, 234 00:14:41,159 --> 00:14:44,679 So they're not just splits alternate identities. They might also 235 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,960 have spiritual problems in possession. And I think that's the 236 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:52,200 most logical analysis too. So you've been listening to Jay's analysis, 237 00:14:52,559 --> 00:14:55,000 and next, if you want to see the full analysis 238 00:14:55,039 --> 00:14:57,720 of Dave's book when we look at a lot of 239 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,840 these cases of the serial killers and they're al personalities 240 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,799 and Dave's totality argument and thesis, you need to subscribe 241 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:05,799 to Jays Analysis for ninety five a month or for 242 00:15:05,879 --> 00:15:07,679 sixty dollars a year. You can also get in my 243 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:12,039 book esotery, Hollywood sex, cults and symbols and film signed 244 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:17,279 at my website and thank you for watching, and get 245 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,840 ready to get into some pretty dark, nasty stuff. But 246 00:15:20,919 --> 00:15:24,919 it's illustrative, it's interesting, and it reminds me again of 247 00:15:24,759 --> 00:15:28,000 the Shamalan movie Split, right. I mean, I know that's Hollywood, 248 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:35,039 but if you watched Split, it's very reminiscent of what 249 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:41,559 we read in Programmed to Kill. Now we moved to 250 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,879 the actual text and what Dave argues in the book, 251 00:15:47,639 --> 00:15:51,919 and he mentions the importance of mind control. And this 252 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,039 is something that we've talked about many times. We've done 253 00:15:54,039 --> 00:15:56,480 a lot of interviews, a lot of talks, a lot 254 00:15:56,519 --> 00:15:59,000 of discussions in the reality of mind control and how 255 00:15:59,039 --> 00:16:04,000 it would be use full in many different fields. Marketing 256 00:16:04,039 --> 00:16:10,480 would be interested in this, Psychology would be interested in this, intelligence, agencies, military, 257 00:16:11,159 --> 00:16:14,360 you name it. All would be interested. Cults, right, So, 258 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:20,759 all these various aspects of our crazy world could have 259 00:16:20,799 --> 00:16:23,440 some potential use for mind control. And so you can 260 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:27,360 see why with the development of all the scientific techniques 261 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,600 since the scientific revolution, as to why this would be 262 00:16:31,279 --> 00:16:36,240 such an important focus of study and the government, especially 263 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:40,480 our government, especially in the last fifty sixty seventy years 264 00:16:40,519 --> 00:16:44,639 has poured tremendous money into this. And as we said, 265 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:48,000 that was documented in John Marx's book The Search for 266 00:16:48,039 --> 00:16:51,559 the mansorin Candidate, which you can get that book as well. 267 00:16:51,879 --> 00:16:54,240 It will be in the recommended reading page as I 268 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:58,679 update that in the next couple days at Jay's analysis, 269 00:16:59,279 --> 00:17:03,039 and I also have my review and analysis of that book. Now, 270 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,759 some of these books that he's mentioned were probably familiar with. 271 00:17:09,039 --> 00:17:15,240 He mentions Acid Dreams, he mentions Journey into Madness, Delgado's 272 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,279 book Physical Control of the Mind, one of the MK 273 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,839 ultra doctors who actually wrote a book on physical control 274 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,400 of the mind, Donald Bain's book Control of Kenny Jones 275 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:29,759 and her usage by the military. And we have Walter 276 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,839 Bowert's pretty well known book Operation Mind Control, Peter Watson 277 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:38,559 War on the Mind, Peter Shrag Mind Control. So all 278 00:17:38,559 --> 00:17:42,039 these books are pretty good. I've read several of these, 279 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,039 but they're pretty not all of them, but pretty good 280 00:17:45,079 --> 00:17:49,359 introductions to the notion of mind control. And when it 281 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,680 comes to the issue of MPD and d ID multiple 282 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:58,640 personality or disassociative identity disorder, this is supposed to be debated, 283 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:07,319 but the consensus of a lot of the supposed academic 284 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:14,559 literature is that it's not faked. Doctor Deirdre Barrett, writing 285 00:18:14,559 --> 00:18:18,920 in two thousand and one for Psychology Today, noted that 286 00:18:19,039 --> 00:18:27,720 they are not faking it. There are other references the 287 00:18:27,799 --> 00:18:31,519 DSMV still, I've cited this in articles as well. Not 288 00:18:31,559 --> 00:18:33,759 that this proves anything per se, but it's interesting that 289 00:18:33,799 --> 00:18:37,880 you have these these establishment papers that still cite it 290 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:45,839 as legitimate as a real thing. The DSMV citing Esterbrooks's 291 00:18:46,319 --> 00:18:50,920 famous hypnosis article, and it's still in the footnotes last 292 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,240 time I checked a year or two ago, so still referenced. 293 00:18:54,400 --> 00:19:00,000 And doctor Colin Ross. You've probably heard him in various 294 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,920 on various podcast talks interviews. I've heard him on several 295 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:09,599 different psychiatry and psychology podcasts, which I listened to quite 296 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,319 a few of those here and there in my spare time. 297 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,880 So this is not a subject that is completely new 298 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,799 to me. I've also read other books just strictly from 299 00:19:19,839 --> 00:19:25,319 the psychiatry psychological standpoint, Switching Time by Bayer. We mentioned 300 00:19:25,319 --> 00:19:29,920 that in the interview that I did with Greg Crawlwood 301 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:34,720 at Hier said chats. So there's a lot of literature 302 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,000 out there that you can find that that tends to 303 00:19:37,079 --> 00:19:41,519 back this up. And so that's part of the thesis 304 00:19:41,519 --> 00:19:43,200 that Dave's going to work for him, and I would agree. 305 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:49,480 I think that there's I think it's real, and there's 306 00:19:49,519 --> 00:19:55,000 other books too that will deal with it, maybe from 307 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,599 a more conspiratorial perspective. I've got some more poppy books 308 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,759 in my library touch on mind control in NIM culture, 309 00:20:02,519 --> 00:20:07,519 but they're really kind of referencing the founding texts that 310 00:20:07,519 --> 00:20:10,960 we've already mentioned. So, you know, as we noted from 311 00:20:11,039 --> 00:20:13,680 John Marx's book, there's not really we don't know everything 312 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:19,319 about what happened in mkulture and supposedly Helms or one 313 00:20:19,319 --> 00:20:22,839 of the you know, CIA guys destroyed seven boxes and 314 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,759 somebody only got a hold of seven boxes that weren't 315 00:20:25,799 --> 00:20:30,000 destroyed and all this kind of stuff. Who knows what's 316 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,920 true in regard to that, But I think we can 317 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:38,480 kind of trace out general ideas, and you know, some 318 00:20:38,519 --> 00:20:41,799 of the documents are online. I've looked through some of those. Again, 319 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,240 it's hard to tell, you know what you're looking at. 320 00:20:44,319 --> 00:20:51,119 But Freud apparently I was aware of this idea of 321 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,279 a ritual abuse and sexual ritual abuse. You may have 322 00:20:55,279 --> 00:20:58,079 been involved in it. I don't know, but it's at 323 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:02,680 least mentioned in Freud's work, and so again you've got 324 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,160 these mad scientists. Basically, it's what I argued in the 325 00:21:05,279 --> 00:21:09,039 John Mark's talk, who knows what you know? They're going 326 00:21:09,079 --> 00:21:11,240 to be doing anything and everything just because they are 327 00:21:11,759 --> 00:21:22,079 wicked dudes. There's a quote from Probe magazine which I've 328 00:21:22,079 --> 00:21:25,160 never heard of, but Dave cites this as a woman, 329 00:21:25,599 --> 00:21:29,799 Arlene Tyler, and she's writing about MK Ultra and she 330 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,720 says in the fifties, the CIA was also looking for 331 00:21:32,799 --> 00:21:38,160 specially gifted subjects to study their dissociative states. So I'm 332 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:42,319 guessing this means gifted children, although not sure this could 333 00:21:42,319 --> 00:21:46,359 be induced and controlled through hypnosis and drugs. It reminds 334 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:50,640 me of that Netflix series THEA, Remember that the OA. 335 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,599 If you saw that, which was really good until that's 336 00:21:55,720 --> 00:22:00,240 stupid ending. I was really hooked on that show. Man. 337 00:22:00,279 --> 00:22:03,799 This is I've never seen anything like this, and then 338 00:22:03,839 --> 00:22:08,279 it just turned into Glee or something. It's like Glee 339 00:22:08,319 --> 00:22:10,640 meets Sandy Hook at the end. If you saw that, 340 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,839 If you didn't see it, I can't say that I 341 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,720 recommend it, just because it was such a stupid ending. 342 00:22:17,799 --> 00:22:25,319 But if you if you are into endings, then you'll enjoy. 343 00:22:25,519 --> 00:22:28,079 If you're really into the first three fourths of shows, 344 00:22:28,599 --> 00:22:36,519 you'll like that show. Now, Blackmail, Orgy's Eyes, Wide Shot, stuff, 345 00:22:36,599 --> 00:22:39,079 Mart du Trouve affair, that all comes up. We've talked 346 00:22:39,079 --> 00:22:40,880 about that many times. That's why I did you know 347 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,960 my analysis of eywatch Shot, which is in my book, 348 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,720 the first chapter actually, and it's interesting that Dave mentions 349 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:55,640 the many times and many instances, many cases where you 350 00:22:55,759 --> 00:23:01,319 have a connection between the timing of events and various 351 00:23:01,319 --> 00:23:05,079 occult calendars. So Dave notes that I think there's something 352 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:09,200 to that, and he mentioned some cults here at the beginning, 353 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:19,640 where the Belgian elite and elite Roman Catholics in Belgium. Belgium. Yeah, 354 00:23:19,799 --> 00:23:22,039 we know that. We talked about that many times as well, 355 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:27,160 in relation again to the Dutreux affair and the character 356 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,680 of Michael Nahoul, who was one of these guys who 357 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:37,680 would I guess grab girls and supplied these girls for 358 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,559 the elite, and there was like this pedo cult. And 359 00:23:43,559 --> 00:23:47,160 the guy who takes the fall is Dutreux, if I recall, right, 360 00:23:47,599 --> 00:23:51,319 he's the guy who's supposed to be in charge of 361 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:55,079 all this. But then you know, like the whole city 362 00:23:55,119 --> 00:24:00,920 of Belgium that were there's like a huge march at 363 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,960 the capitol because it's people are so outraged over this 364 00:24:05,039 --> 00:24:08,039 and it was so widespread and so some of like 365 00:24:08,079 --> 00:24:11,759 a million people marched because this was all covered up. 366 00:24:12,559 --> 00:24:19,839 And then he talks about pedophile cults in Scotland. In Portugal, 367 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:24,160 there was a big TV guy called mister TV I 368 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,160 guess in Portugal and he was involved in this giant 369 00:24:27,599 --> 00:24:36,720 pedophile cult and there was this snuff films. Interestingly, we've 370 00:24:36,759 --> 00:24:40,920 mentioned that in some cases being covered. Now Snopes tells 371 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,319 you that there's no such thing. So that's supposed to 372 00:24:44,319 --> 00:24:47,400 be I guess, the definitive word on whether or not 373 00:24:47,519 --> 00:24:55,880 snuff films exist. But yeah, I mean, come on, the 374 00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:00,680 people have cameras and there are evil people. Why wouldn't 375 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,319 they exist? Right? And what is this that we hear 376 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,000 about on the internet at rule thirty four that if 377 00:25:06,039 --> 00:25:08,000 you can think of it, there's some kind of weird 378 00:25:08,559 --> 00:25:11,720 porn version, right, whatever you can think of there's there's 379 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:16,200 some weirdo that's into the porn version of that. Anyway, 380 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,119 Dave mentions Lewis Carroll. We've talked about Lewis Carroll as 381 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:25,400 well in his pedophilia, and it's how it kind of 382 00:25:26,799 --> 00:25:31,519 seems to be affiliated with Alice in Wonderland in some way, 383 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:36,079 although I guess it's not onres certain, but you can 384 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:41,720 argue maybe that you know, Alice tumbling down the rabbit 385 00:25:41,759 --> 00:25:45,880 hole and all of her experience his her trippy experiences. 386 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,640 I mean, maybe Lewis Carroll was like drugging girls or something, 387 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,319 and you know, this is how he got the idea 388 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,720 for this, right, So the disis dissociative states and young 389 00:25:55,839 --> 00:26:01,119 girls being traumatized, and maybe this is part of the 390 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:06,079 meaning of Wonderland, right, uh, and and the weird connections 391 00:26:06,079 --> 00:26:09,079 with Disney. This becomes sort of the motif of Disney, right. 392 00:26:12,839 --> 00:26:17,759 You know, it's hard to demonstrate. I only found one 393 00:26:17,799 --> 00:26:23,279 instance where the in in John Marx's book, there was 394 00:26:23,319 --> 00:26:26,200 a direct connection between Alice in Wonderland and MK Ultra 395 00:26:26,319 --> 00:26:29,200 and it was you and Cameron had been doing experiments 396 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,039 on a certain woman. I don't remember her name, but 397 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,359 she was in one of the psychiatric hospitals, and you know, 398 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,599 he was like playing all these weird things and uh, 399 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:45,000 psychic driving and torturing and electro shock and playing these 400 00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:47,519 tapes and I guess movies. We don't really know, but 401 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,039 he was probably strapping her down and making her watch, 402 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,160 you know, Alison Wonderland or something. I don't know, her 403 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,039 maybe playing it on Alice Wonderland on tape and seeing 404 00:26:56,039 --> 00:27:00,440 what that would do. And but she she's seems to 405 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,799 think that this woman that he was, you know, dosing 406 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,559 up with LSD and he's doing all this too, she 407 00:27:04,839 --> 00:27:07,720 thought that she was Alice in Wonderland. So that is 408 00:27:07,759 --> 00:27:12,240 the one instance I could find that connects Alison went 409 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,079 on directly to the actual programs of m culture. But 410 00:27:16,519 --> 00:27:19,880 I suppose the allegory maybe it's kind of like a 411 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,680 wink wink thing amongst sickos that oh yeah, that's about 412 00:27:23,839 --> 00:27:28,279 you know, Lewis Carroll's into young girls, and that's what 413 00:27:28,319 --> 00:27:30,440 Alice wonder One is about. But I'm not sure. I 414 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:39,640 don't know. But one of the theses that Dave lays 415 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:46,319 out is that, as we said, there are unsolved murders, 416 00:27:47,559 --> 00:27:51,400 and a lot of these unsolved murders could be tacked 417 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,960 onto the suppose the serial killer. Right now, that's not 418 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,400 to say that the serial killers aren't serial killers, but 419 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:06,119 rather that they may have killed a few people and 420 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,880 then it's added on to their hit count, right, all 421 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:14,880 of these other names of people that they supposedly killed, right, 422 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,039 or that the police department couldn't make sense of, or 423 00:28:20,559 --> 00:28:27,039 you know, old old cases that were unsolved. So then 424 00:28:27,079 --> 00:28:29,720 he moves on to talk about instances of you know, 425 00:28:29,839 --> 00:28:33,720 pedo cults. And this is very prescient because of all 426 00:28:33,759 --> 00:28:35,599 the stuff that you know, has come out in the 427 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:40,000 news in the last well thirteen years since they've published 428 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,000 this book, right, I mean, we've seen so many instances 429 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,480 of this. And he mentions the McMartin preschool case, which 430 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,599 if you've seen, you know, Ted Gunderson's lecture, which has 431 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,240 been going around on the internet for I don't know, 432 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,440 probably twenty years since the beginning of the internet, but 433 00:28:57,599 --> 00:29:02,440 I don't know. But Dave argues that, you know, there's 434 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,480 a lot of questions in the mc martin case that 435 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:11,079 we're never answered, so we could we there were tunnels 436 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,480 under the school, right, So you know that was not 437 00:29:14,599 --> 00:29:19,119 a mythology, right, but I guess it's not definitive. And 438 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,680 depending on what you think of Ted Gunnerson and his talk, 439 00:29:21,799 --> 00:29:24,319 you know who knows, but Dave seems to think that 440 00:29:24,359 --> 00:29:29,000 there's oddities in that case that leave it still open 441 00:29:29,519 --> 00:29:33,920 for question. And then he moves on to talk about 442 00:29:34,039 --> 00:29:39,960 other instances of drugging and capturing and drugging children. And 443 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,519 this reminded me of and this is a character named 444 00:29:43,519 --> 00:29:48,640 Frank Fuster, and this is just like the movie Prisoners. 445 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:53,200 Now I'm not positive, but whoever made the movie Prisoners 446 00:29:53,240 --> 00:30:06,400 with Jake Jollen Hall and Wolverine whatever, I've gone blank? Oh, yeah, 447 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,480 you know I'm talking about. I know who it is, 448 00:30:08,559 --> 00:30:11,559 but my mind is on Frank Fuster at the moment, 449 00:30:11,759 --> 00:30:16,799 which is a ridiculous name. But Frank would go into 450 00:30:16,799 --> 00:30:22,519 a trance and he would steal kids and just a 451 00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:25,759 total sicko. But what was interesting is that he would 452 00:30:25,799 --> 00:30:33,480 use gatorade, urine and drugs. This is how he would 453 00:30:33,519 --> 00:30:37,799 drug his victims. And of course he touched them and 454 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,480 molest of them and all this kind of stuff. And 455 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:50,839 that is one of these cases where yeah, he says, 456 00:30:50,839 --> 00:30:58,839 a catatonic trance. Interesting, and I guess he was connected 457 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,079 to working at Disney or something like that. This is 458 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:09,440 Dave says. Even so, justice was not necessarily served, blah blah, blah. 459 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,359 Not even the Centaia priest who attended the trial with 460 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,279 Foster's mother and uncle had the power to save him 461 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,279 and our Veda, which is to say, the Walt Disney 462 00:31:19,279 --> 00:31:23,359 company paid six million dollars to seven of his victims, 463 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:30,119 so he was one of these weird pedo guys. Then 464 00:31:32,599 --> 00:31:37,240 Dave goes on to talk about routes of trafficking and 465 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:43,920 how this might be connected to moving contraband, be it 466 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,640 people or whatever, and he talks about I think he 467 00:31:47,319 --> 00:31:52,720 mentions Air America and a lot of I assumed everyone 468 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,319 had seen this, but I guess it's not because I 469 00:31:54,359 --> 00:31:57,319 mentioned and people don't know what I'm talking about. But 470 00:31:57,359 --> 00:32:01,200 there's a movie about the CIA airline America. It's got 471 00:32:01,519 --> 00:32:03,039 mel Gibson and Robert Downey Jr. 472 00:32:03,119 --> 00:32:03,319 Speaker 2: In it. 473 00:32:03,359 --> 00:32:06,519 Speaker 1: So I assumed everybody had seen that, but I guess not. 474 00:32:06,759 --> 00:32:09,759 So go watch Air America if you want to see, like, 475 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,319 here's total revelation the method. Oh yeah, this CIA, you know, 476 00:32:13,519 --> 00:32:17,200 traffics drugs in this private CIA airline and it's called 477 00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:21,119 Air America. And everybody knows this. There's a haha, hilarious 478 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:27,759 comedy about it. It's like, what you know, people, I 479 00:32:27,759 --> 00:32:29,880 don't know. It's just it's crazy. The world that we 480 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,880 live in is so crazy. And you can have all 481 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:37,559 these movies made about all this stuff, movies made about 482 00:32:37,559 --> 00:32:40,920 the serial Killers too, right, I mean again Prisoners, And 483 00:32:41,279 --> 00:32:43,559 I listed a bunch of movies that came to mind 484 00:32:43,559 --> 00:32:48,079 because I was thinking about comparing the Hollywood presentations with 485 00:32:48,079 --> 00:32:52,119 what Dave talks about. And I don't know, it's just 486 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:57,200 so this is just such a bizarre genre. It's such 487 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,920 a weird thing that that serial Killers pops up all 488 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,599 of a sudden. But we're going to see why that 489 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,359 is as we get into Dave's book, so he moves 490 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:18,039 on to talk about some other creeper instances of mind 491 00:33:18,079 --> 00:33:23,279 control facilities. This is something I've wondered about too, is 492 00:33:23,359 --> 00:33:29,160 these locations for where these programming and so you know 493 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,480 such might go down. And I've wondered about this, and 494 00:33:32,519 --> 00:33:35,839 you know, Dave lists a lot of locales and places 495 00:33:35,839 --> 00:33:44,920 and potential things. Locations observed London, Germany, Bahamas, Japan, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Africa, 496 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:52,799 Costa Rica, Europe, Pellets. There are areas in Palestine under 497 00:33:52,839 --> 00:33:56,359 various project names, and this is connected to the Finder's case. 498 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,119 The Finder's case is this idea of where they were 499 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:06,279 trafficking kids that were being kidnapped, and this was under 500 00:34:06,359 --> 00:34:14,199 a leaeve, the CIA's proprietary firm that was that was 501 00:34:15,519 --> 00:34:18,239 or excuse me, Air America is the proprietary firm, the 502 00:34:18,559 --> 00:34:27,559 proprietary airline, and the Finders were supposed to be looking 503 00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:32,199 for lost children. Well, it doesn't look like they were 504 00:34:32,559 --> 00:34:34,679 looking for them. It looks like they were selling them 505 00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:40,360 because they had apparently machines, cash machines set up for 506 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:47,239 wired transfers, you know, across across continents and countries. And 507 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,480 this ties into Craig Spence and Larry King and the 508 00:34:51,280 --> 00:35:00,519 now famous Franklin cover up. So if you read the 509 00:35:00,559 --> 00:35:03,119 Franklin cover Up book then you know all about that. 510 00:35:04,639 --> 00:35:08,920 And I'm sure most people have probably seen the Discovery 511 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,639 Channel documentary that has also been floating around the internet 512 00:35:11,679 --> 00:35:15,519 for twenty years. You know about Franklin cover up. So 513 00:35:15,559 --> 00:35:20,280 we won't rehearse all that. But the next character is 514 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,639 Henry Lee Lucas. And what's interesting about the Henry Le 515 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:30,880 Lucas case is the connection to a mysterious cult, or 516 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,159 so Henry claims. Now, again, we don't know if it's true. 517 00:35:34,199 --> 00:35:37,679 This is in Henry's whoever the biographer was, and I 518 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,840 went and looked up the link to check it, and 519 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,960 it actually it's it is there and he does say 520 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:46,199 it in the whatever the authoris biography of Henry l. 521 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,280 Lucas's or his main biographer. It's called Hand of Death 522 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:57,599 the Henry Lee Lucas story, and Hand of Death is 523 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:02,000 the name of the cult that he claimed he was 524 00:36:03,679 --> 00:36:08,400 controlled by or a part of UH and it supposedly 525 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:15,960 has connections to Texas Rangers. I don't know if that's true. 526 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:20,760 I'm just saying that this is what Henry Lucas claimed. Now, again, 527 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,639 it's hard to prove these things or know these things 528 00:36:24,639 --> 00:36:31,840 because they are coming from crazy dudes. Right. So now 529 00:36:33,119 --> 00:36:35,400 it doesn't mean that it's false just because it comes 530 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:40,599 from a crazy dude, right, But it's just again dubious 531 00:36:40,599 --> 00:36:43,039 and hard to know. So you know, who knows. But 532 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,280 there are all these oddities that come up, like why 533 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:52,239 does this crazy dude get pardoned by w pardon pardon 534 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,480 Henry le Lucas a good man, He's a good man, 535 00:36:55,199 --> 00:37:00,360 Mustard gashous Terrish, Right now, why would you pardon this 536 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,800 guy if you're a w R. I mean, I don't know, 537 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:09,280 that's bizarre, but you know, Henry claims that he was 538 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,400 part of a cult that had connections, interestingly to a 539 00:37:12,519 --> 00:37:18,000 ranch in Mexico near Juarez. Now I've been in a 540 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:23,760 few arguments lately with people about Juarez because last summer 541 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,920 I drove to California and on the way we stopped 542 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:32,760 in El Paso Passo was on the border of Hoarees. 543 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,719 And the reason this became interesting to me initially it 544 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,239 was because of the movie Cecario. And if you watch Cecario, 545 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:44,199 you'll see Emily Blunt get duped by the CIA guy 546 00:37:45,159 --> 00:37:53,679 played by I just I'm going blank on my actors today, goonies. 547 00:37:54,559 --> 00:38:00,440 I'm usually like spot on with my actors, but I've 548 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:05,719 been reading and talking all day. Josh Brolin is the 549 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:10,920 CIA dude who dupes Emily Blunt. If you haven't seen Sircario, 550 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,400 go watch that. That's relevant to this because you've got 551 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:19,599 your contract killers, your hitmen, and that as well played 552 00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:27,599 by Beniccio. About Del Toro. So the Mexican death cult 553 00:38:27,599 --> 00:38:32,519 of MS thirteen, which I've talked about and looked into, 554 00:38:33,599 --> 00:38:40,920 and the religious worship of Santa and these gangs I 555 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:45,320 think that's all real. And you have these longstanding stories 556 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:51,440 of the disappearing women. So in Noirez, all these women disappear, 557 00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:55,199 and I wonder what's going on. Nobody can figure it out. Well, 558 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,400 there's being put into human trafskiing. Obviously, that's obvious. What's 559 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,039 going on? Come on? So Dave wrote about this a 560 00:39:02,039 --> 00:39:04,719 long time ago, and then so I went looked and 561 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,000 there's all these articles and videos and documentaries that you 562 00:39:09,039 --> 00:39:13,960 can find on the cartels of ware Is and the 563 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:18,639 Sineloa and all these different areas down there, and what car, 564 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,880 what cartel control controls, what redoing, and on and on on. 565 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,480 And when I was driving through there, I was looking 566 00:39:24,519 --> 00:39:28,039 actually at the government alert page, just out of curiosity, 567 00:39:28,559 --> 00:39:31,239 and they tell you don't go here. You can go here. 568 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,400 This one's okay, Oh don't go over here. I'm not 569 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,880 saying the government is necessarily reliable, but I'm saying that 570 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,679 I don't think that's fake. I mean, you know, there 571 00:39:41,519 --> 00:39:44,320 there are cartels that control these places. And when you 572 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,639 go to El Paso, you can stand on the Ol 573 00:39:46,679 --> 00:39:49,440 Paso side and you can look over, which we did. 574 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:55,920 I took pictures and whatares is? Just this long, never 575 00:39:56,079 --> 00:40:00,239 ending infinite plane up the hill, up this mountain with 576 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,119 writing on it right something about I guess this is 577 00:40:03,159 --> 00:40:05,639 like Jesus and Juarez or something I can't remember. But 578 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,480 it's just all these like shanties right, very sad. I'm 579 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:16,960 not trying to be cruel or dismissive or harsh or insensitive, 580 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:23,039 but it's it's just really bad bad news. It's a 581 00:40:23,039 --> 00:40:25,559 lot of poverty, and it's obvious. So the people that 582 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,719 trying to argue with me that it's not a shithole, 583 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,920 they're just full of it. I've seen it. Don't pull 584 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,000 your liberal crap with me, because I went and saw 585 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,760 it with my own eyes. I've been to Mexico too, 586 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:43,679 by the way, I've been to Tijuana and so anyway, 587 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,760 but what's interesting is that we start to get a 588 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,239 picture and if you go read even liberal magazine, so 589 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,519 it's as funny as I went told the liberal publications, 590 00:40:51,559 --> 00:40:54,480 like all of the pro open border ones, like I 591 00:40:54,519 --> 00:40:57,199 was reading The Atlantic and the you know, and then 592 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,440 they're his the because I was I was curious because 593 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,840 I wanted to see what the leftists and the feminists 594 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:09,239 would say about missing women in Juarez. Ooh, hmm. That's 595 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,719 a bit of a conundrum for the leftist feminists because 596 00:41:13,079 --> 00:41:18,679 you don't want to be racist against the Hispanic and 597 00:41:19,639 --> 00:41:26,400 I guess the noble cartel people, right, nobody racist if 598 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,920 you say that there are cartels, But you also don't 599 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:34,480 want to ignore the plight of trafficked women. So that's 600 00:41:34,559 --> 00:41:36,679 kind of a tough one. So I think it was 601 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,559 the Atlantic article that I read, pretty long one about 602 00:41:39,559 --> 00:41:43,599 the missing women. Well it just says, oh, yeah, this 603 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,320 is all true. There's always missing women. In the nineties 604 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,639 or somewhere in that period, it was the most missing 605 00:41:50,679 --> 00:41:52,800 women in the world and all this stuff, and we 606 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,360 got to do something about this, and there's no government 607 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,440 to do anything because NAFTA. Now I think that's all true. 608 00:42:00,159 --> 00:42:04,320 NAFTA is a private corporate sweatshops that are put down 609 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:11,519 there on purpose, and so you know, all the cops 610 00:42:11,559 --> 00:42:15,400 down there are like bought off right by all the cartels. 611 00:42:15,559 --> 00:42:21,079 So I think that's how all this works. If you 612 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:26,599 want to be liberal and debate me on that, and 613 00:42:26,639 --> 00:42:30,400 you think that there is no MS thirteen and there's 614 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,320 no something what Day, and well, you know all these 615 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:38,840 documentaries that are on YouTube, they're not all fake you know, 616 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,679 have you been to Mexico? I have, right, So there's 617 00:42:41,679 --> 00:42:44,039 good and bad areas, and if you don't think there's 618 00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:49,519 bad areas, then you're just lying now. So it But 619 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:54,679 was Henry Lee Lucas raised in a hand of the 620 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,119 Double Death Cult? I don't know, We don't know, but 621 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:01,920 that is what he says. And there's a I forget 622 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,119 the exact number, but there's a really high death count, right, 623 00:43:05,199 --> 00:43:14,039 and he it's hard to see that he was really 624 00:43:14,079 --> 00:43:17,280 behind all this. So Dave goes on to say, well, 625 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,920 Henry is probably a portrait of the MK ultra type 626 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,679 assassin that we're talking about, who could be used for 627 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:30,679 multiple reasons. And so there's this Office of Naval Intelligence 628 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:37,760 O n I connection and the argument is that the 629 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:45,119 O and I and NATO were interested in finding prisoners 630 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,760 that and psychos. And so this is how we get 631 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,119 the connection to the Phoenix program, which is this idea 632 00:43:52,159 --> 00:43:56,800 out of Vietnam where William Colby is oh said, oh, 633 00:43:57,119 --> 00:43:59,199 in order to defeat all the commies in the Kong 634 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:04,239 and Viet Kong, we've got to train ruthless psychopaths, right, 635 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,639 And so this is where you get the idea, you know, 636 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,079 like in Full Metal Jacket, right, this is the same 637 00:44:10,159 --> 00:44:14,480 idea there where the big goofy kind of retarded due 638 00:44:14,519 --> 00:44:22,400 to the beginning, just goes nuts because he just goes psycho, right, 639 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:26,039 And that's this is also what this is basically apocalypse now. 640 00:44:26,519 --> 00:44:31,559 This is Martin Sheen going crazy on acid, right, So 641 00:44:31,679 --> 00:44:35,480 that's kind of so that's that's what the Phoenix program 642 00:44:35,559 --> 00:44:41,760 is there, you go apocalypse now now. So there's all 643 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:47,960 these CIA scoundrels, Dan Mitrione and these characters that are 644 00:44:48,079 --> 00:44:56,360 connected to this Phoenix program until William Colby and the 645 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,239 thesis here is that, oh well, it looks like it's 646 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,920 These are probably least some of the guys who either 647 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:09,039 came back from Vietnam and were traumatized and psychopaths, or 648 00:45:09,079 --> 00:45:12,400 you know, they were profile beforehand and put into Vietnam 649 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:17,000 to become the program psychopath. And by the way, if 650 00:45:17,039 --> 00:45:20,360 you go watch Full Metal Jacket, the Kubrick film, you'll 651 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:28,639 notice the the William Baldwin Baldwin whatever, the Baldwin guy 652 00:45:28,639 --> 00:45:33,800 in it, I forget his name, but he he's the 653 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,960 the psycho, right. And you have Joker, the main character 654 00:45:38,039 --> 00:45:41,920 who after the the first scene after the first act 655 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:46,320 when the big goofy retarded dude commits suicide. It moves 656 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:52,000 into the Vietnam section of the story, and then Joker 657 00:45:52,159 --> 00:45:59,880 meets the Baldwin character Adam Baldwin excuse me, Adam Ball 658 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,679 and the actor, and Adam Baldwin is just total total 659 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:09,039 psycho man like he's like, he just loves the kill count. 660 00:46:09,199 --> 00:46:13,000 He loves all the different ways to kill people. And 661 00:46:13,039 --> 00:46:17,480 then when at the climax of the film, if you recall, 662 00:46:17,559 --> 00:46:20,920 it's this little I don't know, thirteen fourteen year old 663 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:25,199 Via Cong girl, and she's the one who's like secretly 664 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:30,000 shooting them from from a building top right, and so 665 00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:32,440 they sneak into the building, they get it to the 666 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:38,719 top and Joker shoots her, but she's not dead. And 667 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:44,239 so it's Joker and Adam Baldwin and the rest of 668 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,000 the team are standing up there and they don't know 669 00:46:47,039 --> 00:46:50,280 what to do, and Adam Ball is like, just kill her. 670 00:46:50,519 --> 00:46:53,199 You know, he has absolutely no remorse killing this little kid, 671 00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:58,000 and Joker doesn't want to, but finally he just goes 672 00:46:58,039 --> 00:47:02,800 with it, and you know, he's obviously very troubled, you know, 673 00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,159 in having to do this, which any normal person would be. 674 00:47:07,639 --> 00:47:09,760 I'm going to kill a thirteen year old. But this 675 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:15,440 for the Baldwin guy, whatever his character's name is, you know, 676 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,639 he loves it, right, So he's that one percent, that's 677 00:47:18,679 --> 00:47:23,239 the psychopath. And that's what Dave's getting at, is that 678 00:47:23,679 --> 00:47:26,639 these kind of people were profiled. And isn't that interesting 679 00:47:26,679 --> 00:47:29,960 that that's kind of what again, Kubrick appears to be 680 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,039 telling us. See in so many ways, He's told us 681 00:47:33,039 --> 00:47:39,199 so many things. And this is where we move into 682 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:46,480 Berkwitz and the connections to other cults. The Satanic Family 683 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,039 is what Burkwitz claims that he was connected to this 684 00:47:49,199 --> 00:47:54,079 larger Satanic network, Satanic Family, And this is where Marie 685 00:47:54,199 --> 00:47:58,920 Terry's book Ultimate Evil has a thesis that Manson and 686 00:47:59,039 --> 00:48:03,519 Berkovitz and some of these other guys Lucas, henryly Lucas, 687 00:48:03,159 --> 00:48:05,840 that they appear to be have been part of a 688 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:12,559 larger national or international network of cults that were run 689 00:48:12,639 --> 00:48:19,239 by a super cult or just run by military and intelligence, right, 690 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:26,159 and could therefore be used for assassinations, for hits, for whatever, 691 00:48:28,119 --> 00:48:37,079 kidnapping and so forth. Then he talks about, then this 692 00:48:37,159 --> 00:48:39,360 is one I'd never heard of, the Monster of Florence. 693 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:44,119 I've read you know, several books, probably ten books on 694 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,559 occult crimes and so forth. I'd never heard of the 695 00:48:47,559 --> 00:48:52,320 Monster of Florence. And this is a dude in a 696 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:57,400 circle of elite guys and maybe women too in Italy 697 00:48:59,159 --> 00:49:06,559 in the period of the seventies and eighties. In two 698 00:49:06,599 --> 00:49:09,079 thousand and two, I've been like maybe into the two thousands, 699 00:49:09,119 --> 00:49:10,840 you know, two thousand and two, the Monster of Florence 700 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,679 was in the news again. Yeah, satanic rites. According to 701 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:19,119 the Sunday Herald, Eyes wide shut parties. This is page 702 00:49:19,159 --> 00:49:23,320 eighty four Day's book. The police are involved, there's orgies, 703 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:29,559 they've got cameras, they've got torture racks. They are blackmailing people. 704 00:49:30,039 --> 00:49:33,119 That was what was going on. So this is the 705 00:49:33,199 --> 00:49:43,559 upper level Italian Italian elites. So we're starting to see 706 00:49:43,599 --> 00:49:47,480 patterns here. This is going on everywhere, like all the countries. 707 00:49:48,519 --> 00:49:53,039 These elites are into just the grossest stuff. And then 708 00:49:53,079 --> 00:49:58,960 you realize, oh, a big part of it is blackmailing people. Right, 709 00:49:59,039 --> 00:50:02,760 this is what you do. Get photographic evidence, You've got 710 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:09,360 film evidence of of these people doing outrageous stuff, and 711 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:14,400 then you can control them that way. Now that also 712 00:50:14,519 --> 00:50:18,599 makes me think of and I haven't I've looked into 713 00:50:18,639 --> 00:50:22,320 this a little bit, but I haven't done a whole 714 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,199 lot of research. But it's supposed to be partly true. 715 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,119 This story that is the Guy Ritchie movie Bank Job, 716 00:50:29,079 --> 00:50:31,880 And if you remember, if you haven't seen that, I 717 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:37,119 recommend it not you know, I don't Usually I'm not 718 00:50:37,159 --> 00:50:39,320 a big fan of Jason. I don't have any problem 719 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,639 with Jason Stathum. It's just I'm not really into like 720 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,800 the standard action movies. But Bank Job is a really 721 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:51,719 good Jason Stathum movie. Killer Elit's really good too, by 722 00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:56,840 the way. But in bank Job, if you recall, I'm 723 00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:00,840 not going to spoil the in for you, but I 724 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:08,760 six hires like the best bank thieves on the down load, 725 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:17,119 and they hire them to steal blackmail evidence of one 726 00:51:17,159 --> 00:51:21,119 of them nobility or the royal princess or something like that. 727 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:28,079 I think somebody royal who was doing some nasty orgy 728 00:51:28,079 --> 00:51:35,679 stuff and I wouldn't be president and true. And one 729 00:51:35,679 --> 00:51:38,119 of the guys who had the blackmail was one of 730 00:51:38,159 --> 00:51:43,039 these like not Michael, not Malcolm X, but I think 731 00:51:43,039 --> 00:51:46,440 they call him micah X or something ridiculous, not mikeah X. 732 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,880 That's the guy that was the guy who killed people 733 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,480 supposedly in Denver. One of these ex guys like a 734 00:51:52,599 --> 00:51:58,199 black rights black nationalist guy, so and so X, who, 735 00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,320 by the way, was a real guy. I think I 736 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,039 can't remember who it's based on, but anyway, go watch 737 00:52:03,079 --> 00:52:07,960 Bank Jobs. It's a pretty good movie. So chapter nine 738 00:52:08,079 --> 00:52:12,840 we go to Rancho Diablo, which is more on the 739 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:18,119 Henry Lee Lucas Thayne because henryly Lucas talked about the 740 00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:23,119 connections to satanant cult and Juarez, which presumably would tie 741 00:52:23,119 --> 00:52:30,880 into MS thirteen and the Santam whate And in chapter 742 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,559 nine Dave talks about a different cult which I had 743 00:52:34,559 --> 00:52:36,199 heard of, but I didn't know much about this, so 744 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,760 this was also new to me. Around nineteen eighty nine, 745 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:45,039 you had the Matta Moros cult and they were just 746 00:52:45,119 --> 00:52:51,639 south of Brownsville, Texas, and Henry Lucas had a spiritual 747 00:52:51,679 --> 00:53:02,199 advisor from the Matamorros cult. Unbelievable Clemmy Schroeder identified as 748 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:11,320 Henry's spiritual advisor, and I guess she had some connection 749 00:53:11,519 --> 00:53:21,000 to the Matamoros cult, but Henry's partner Otis Toole claimed 750 00:53:21,039 --> 00:53:25,159 that it was not the specific ranch, not the same one, 751 00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:30,960 but that there were interconnected operations all along the Texas 752 00:53:31,039 --> 00:53:39,639 Mexico border. Now that's crazy anyway. So the Matamoros cult 753 00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:46,239 was headed by connected to Okay, connected to a drug 754 00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:53,719 baron named Ilio Hernandez Rivera, and obviously of course they 755 00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:58,320 bought off cops. Some of them were into it's like 756 00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:03,880 a witchcraft cult, just really crazy stuff. And they were 757 00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,519 first exposed in nineteen eighty nine for a series of 758 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:13,400 brutal murders that included beheadings, and Dave says that they 759 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:17,360 were involved in not just murder but also drug trafficking. 760 00:54:18,039 --> 00:54:24,880 And the pipeline went from Matamorros, from the Matamor's cult 761 00:54:25,599 --> 00:54:35,119 south of Brownsville to the mob in Chicago. Interesting the 762 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:42,280 let's see who's the guy in this? The high Priestess 763 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:51,800 Sarah Aldretti displayed what was described as split personality. She 764 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:55,679 clearly had a dual personality like many of the other occultists. 765 00:54:55,719 --> 00:55:01,320 Aldrette had married on Halloween nineteen eighty three. She had 766 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,559 links to the Hernandez drug family. Blah blah blah. The 767 00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,159 Matamoras cult was part of a massive hemisphere wide drug 768 00:55:08,199 --> 00:55:13,119 trafficking network that went all the way from Roswell, Texas 769 00:55:13,159 --> 00:55:19,039 to top Chicago mafia. I did not know when hear that. 770 00:55:19,039 --> 00:55:21,320 That was all new to me. So then he talks 771 00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,920 about NAFTA and the missing women in Juarez as I mentioned, 772 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:32,920 And the reason for NAFTA and Mexico was so that 773 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:40,039 there would be sweatshops tech tax free sweatshops, right, free market, 774 00:55:40,159 --> 00:55:45,920 isn't it libertarian? So there's deep state connections of course, 775 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:57,719 to these cults, one guy named Dracula, one cult guy 776 00:55:59,599 --> 00:56:08,159 led by Jesus Guardaldo Marquez known as Eddracola and Dave 777 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:13,679 Notes of court, which should be obvious that these Mexican 778 00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:19,719 colts and the drug trafficking appeared to have been tied 779 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:27,559 to the then president of Mexico. Not surprising. So there's 780 00:56:27,599 --> 00:56:34,199 a tie in between the narco cults and Satanism that 781 00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:38,840 is interesting and I've wondered about that. Why do you 782 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:45,079 see this weird connection between MS thirteen and these Santa 783 00:56:45,199 --> 00:56:54,599 Ria cults and you know sent them whatte with And 784 00:56:54,679 --> 00:56:59,400 I guess it's just because colts obviously, you know, it's 785 00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,840 a it's an natural affinity between the realm of mind 786 00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:09,360 control and MK ultra sex slaves. I mean, this is, 787 00:57:09,519 --> 00:57:13,440 like I guess should be obvious why those two worlds 788 00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:19,719 are connected. There's also if you this chapter two. I'm 789 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,639 not sure. I don't want to recommend this movie, but 790 00:57:23,079 --> 00:57:25,960 it reminds me of the Nicholas Cage movie eight millimeter, 791 00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,360 which I don't know. I guess it's any worse than 792 00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,920 Video Drome. If you've seen David Cronenberg's Video Drome, it's 793 00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:37,840 kind of the same same idea, but a lot more 794 00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:46,639 weird than the Nicholas Cage movie. But what Dave talks 795 00:57:46,639 --> 00:57:51,599 about in chapter nine with with some of the usage 796 00:57:51,639 --> 00:57:57,920 of military base and different ranches and filming stuff and 797 00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:03,360 human trafficking and oh, it's just awful stuff. But but 798 00:58:03,519 --> 00:58:06,199 tell me that then Nicholas Cage movie is so ridiculous 799 00:58:06,199 --> 00:58:11,159 that it just, like, I don't know, the silliness of 800 00:58:11,599 --> 00:58:17,119 Nicholas Cage, the entertaining aspects of Nicholas Cage sort of 801 00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:27,559 dull the uh soften the blow of the harshness of 802 00:58:27,639 --> 00:58:35,599 the topic. I guess you could say, whereas I guess 803 00:58:35,639 --> 00:58:38,880 if you watch video Drome, it's just weird. I mean, 804 00:58:39,119 --> 00:58:43,079 I'm not saying it's a bad movie. It's illustrative, but 805 00:58:43,119 --> 00:58:45,480 the only reason I haven't done an analysis yet a 806 00:58:45,599 --> 00:58:48,920 video drome is because I'm not. I mean, I own it, 807 00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:52,840 I have the DVD, seeing it probably five times. I'm 808 00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,360 still not one hundred percent sure I know what David 809 00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:59,039 Cronenberg's trying to say in that movie. We definitely live 810 00:58:59,039 --> 00:59:02,559 in the video drome that much, but I don't know 811 00:59:02,599 --> 00:59:12,199 what he's talking about. Anyway, Lucas's cases don't fit his profile. 812 00:59:12,199 --> 00:59:15,280 And this is an interesting point that comes up in 813 00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,639 a lot of the serial killer stuff here that Dave 814 00:59:17,719 --> 00:59:25,360 says might suggest involved more killers. And this is the 815 00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:33,719 idea of totally different styles of murder, like bludgeoning and 816 00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:38,760 then beheading and then strangling. And so when it's this 817 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:42,960 sort of randomness, yeah, it could be that the killer 818 00:59:43,119 --> 00:59:46,239 was just you know, super crafty and trying to outsmart 819 00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,320 the cops. But it also could be that these are 820 00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:54,679 just different people, different murders, different cults, different groups, or 821 00:59:54,719 --> 01:00:01,800 all of them working together. So another interesting fact is 822 01:00:02,159 --> 01:00:10,119 the California, Texas, Florida connection. Why is it so many 823 01:00:10,119 --> 01:00:14,440 of these sperial killers are drawn to live in, grow up, 824 01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:21,039 or end up in terrorise or terrorized these three states. Now, 825 01:00:21,079 --> 01:00:24,559 I mean, obviously other states come up in different cases, 826 01:00:24,559 --> 01:00:28,519 but these really seem to be a hotbed, and Dave says, well, 827 01:00:28,559 --> 01:00:34,159 it's because these are areas of trafficking out of Mexico, 828 01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:47,920 and that makes sense. The new terror fear begins. This 829 01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:51,400 is interesting, he says with Charles Whitman. And this is 830 01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,280 the guy who you know, climbs up in the tower 831 01:00:54,320 --> 01:01:00,599 at University of Texas and he starts sniping people. Now, 832 01:01:00,639 --> 01:01:05,800 this guy too, was like a former intelligence dude or 833 01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:11,599 the Texas Sniper Naval Enlisted Science Education Program any SEP 834 01:01:12,199 --> 01:01:17,800 was an intelligence entity. And from there he came back, 835 01:01:18,159 --> 01:01:20,559 went up the tower at the University of Texas Austin 836 01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:26,760 and just started sniping. And I forget what his body 837 01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:34,960 count is, twenty three or thirty. And this kind of 838 01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:46,760 spawns the idea that you're not safe anywhere, you know 839 01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:51,559 what I mean, that anywhere you go out in town travel, 840 01:01:52,119 --> 01:01:55,400 I mean, there's just serial killers. Under every rock, there's 841 01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:59,079 a serial killer and you know, waiting to snipe you 842 01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:04,119 from or from atop every tower. Right now, that's not true, 843 01:02:04,119 --> 01:02:07,039 but the public began to get this impression, and so 844 01:02:07,719 --> 01:02:10,039 you kind of get the thesis. Well, maybe there's more 845 01:02:10,079 --> 01:02:14,679 going on. Maybe, you know, Dave's proposing the possibilities, He 846 01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:20,119 said many later interviews that you know, the serial killer 847 01:02:20,159 --> 01:02:25,280 thing didn't just serve the purposes of contract killings or 848 01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:29,239 professional hits or whatever, but it also might have served 849 01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:37,119 a longer, larger social engineering dynamic that would result in 850 01:02:37,559 --> 01:02:42,039 atomization and alienation, people not letting their kids go out 851 01:02:42,079 --> 01:02:45,039 and play and this kind of stuff. And then from there, 852 01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,440 you know, it kind of they just die away, Like 853 01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,840 we don't where are all the serial killers? Last one 854 01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:56,400 I can even think of hearing about. And that's excluding 855 01:02:56,480 --> 01:03:01,400 you know, the normal murders in the news or whatever. 856 01:03:01,559 --> 01:03:06,159 But the BTK killer, right, remember the BTK killer when 857 01:03:06,159 --> 01:03:13,800 he had some previous military intelligence pedigree. That was when 858 01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:16,079 was BTK you know what I mean? Like that's early 859 01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,679 mid two thousands. So we've had like one serial killer 860 01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:25,400 since Dahmer. I guess, like, who was the last famous 861 01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:29,039 serial killer that everybody heard of. We're not going to 862 01:03:29,119 --> 01:03:34,559 count oj here. I don't think he counts, but you know, 863 01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:39,679 popular so called serial killers, as this so called profile goes, 864 01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,679 which Dave says is also kind of bogus. There's not 865 01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,119 really a profile that's kind of a Hollywood thing. But 866 01:03:45,719 --> 01:03:49,840 isn't it interesting? This is what everybody sees, you know, 867 01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:52,920 is again through the lens of Hollywood. Now he talks 868 01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:58,800 about this many times. Hollywood has given us the understanding 869 01:03:59,039 --> 01:04:04,519 of terror and the terrorists, right, not facts, not actual 870 01:04:04,679 --> 01:04:09,519 real world debates and discussions and statistics of you know, 871 01:04:09,639 --> 01:04:12,119 how likely you are to be killed by terrorists, which 872 01:04:12,159 --> 01:04:17,199 is less likely than a beasting. And the same with 873 01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:22,360 serial killers, right. I mean, if you watch movies, which 874 01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:25,519 obviously I have and you have, you know, if we 875 01:04:25,519 --> 01:04:29,000 were to just take the movie world at face value, 876 01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:33,400 you would think half of the population are terrorists and 877 01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:38,840 serial killers. They're just everywhere. This is just simply not true, 878 01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:43,199 you know what I mean, Like, there's let's just assume 879 01:04:43,239 --> 01:04:46,599 that everything we're told about a Jeffrey Dahmer. Okay, let's 880 01:04:46,639 --> 01:04:50,119 just assume that that's real. Well, there's only one Jeffrey 881 01:04:50,159 --> 01:04:56,800 Dahmer in what a decade? Right, But when the media 882 01:04:57,519 --> 01:05:02,360 profs this stuff up, and I think John John Adams 883 01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:06,599 has talked about this, this uh, this idea that the 884 01:05:06,679 --> 01:05:12,360 media can create the impression that something is everywhere and 885 01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:17,039 a lot more prevalent than it actually is. And that's 886 01:05:15,599 --> 01:05:20,960 a very powerful tool of social engineering, is that you know, 887 01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:24,480 the media has this ability to to give us the 888 01:05:24,519 --> 01:05:29,760 impression that there's all these terrorists, there's all these killers everywhere. 889 01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:33,159 It's just it's just madness and mayhem everywhere. And that's 890 01:05:33,239 --> 01:05:36,679 just not true. Right, Like the most crime ridden cities, 891 01:05:37,559 --> 01:05:42,800 you know, like Chicago or Memphis or Houston, Uh, you know, 892 01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,960 they have if you look up the stats, they're not 893 01:05:46,239 --> 01:05:49,320 it's not murders every night. You know, maybe in Chicago 894 01:05:49,519 --> 01:05:51,599 there's a murder every night. You know, what do they 895 01:05:51,639 --> 01:05:53,599 have like three, four or five hundred murders a year. 896 01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:57,360 That's a lot of murders. But I'm saying, you know, 897 01:05:57,559 --> 01:06:04,800 it's not like if I drive one hour in any 898 01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:09,960 direction from where I live, for example, there might be 899 01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:14,400 one murder a year, you know, within a I don't know, 900 01:06:14,679 --> 01:06:19,559 one hundred mile span of where I live. So you know, 901 01:06:19,599 --> 01:06:22,559 it's really confined to certain areas that this kind of 902 01:06:22,559 --> 01:06:26,119 stuff happens, and it's gang and drug stuff, and then 903 01:06:26,239 --> 01:06:31,599 sometimes there's the psycho. Sometimes there's the guy that loses it, 904 01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:35,119 you know, sometimes there's the cult this kind of stuff. 905 01:06:35,159 --> 01:06:37,800 But this stuff is not it's not every day. So 906 01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:45,119 we can't let the media impress upon us unrealistic dangers, 907 01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:48,039 but that's really what they're there for. It's the real 908 01:06:48,159 --> 01:06:50,800 terrorists are the media, I've said for a long time. 909 01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:55,840 So then he goes on to talk about the alteration 910 01:06:55,960 --> 01:07:00,760 and culture with Anton Levy and how Tom Levey had 911 01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:05,480 you know, this kind of intelligence type connections, and you know, 912 01:07:05,559 --> 01:07:10,400 this is really touched on, well, it's dealt with in 913 01:07:10,559 --> 01:07:15,320 more detail in the other book. Weird scenes inside the 914 01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:19,840 Canyon where he focuses on the intelligence propping up and 915 01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:24,920 support for the Laurel Canyon scene, which was the real 916 01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:31,000 birthplace of the hippie movement according to Todave McGowan. And 917 01:07:31,039 --> 01:07:35,559 we get some of the repeated stuff that was new, 918 01:07:35,639 --> 01:07:37,320 you know when this book came out two thousand and 919 01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:41,719 four to readers probably, but to us we all know 920 01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,320 about al Ron Hubbard, and we all know about Crowley 921 01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:49,079 and Hubbard, you know, being part of the part of 922 01:07:49,119 --> 01:07:52,039 scientology or just getting me part of the OTO and 923 01:07:52,599 --> 01:07:56,039 Crowley's group before he went into starting his own cult. 924 01:07:56,719 --> 01:08:01,320 So we're not going to rehearse all that. But there's 925 01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:05,719 these really weird connections between what the issue of the 926 01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:13,800 zodiac and Day's idea is that probably multiple people in 927 01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:17,159 the case of the Zodiac, and these were done on 928 01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:24,000 explicitly on you know, cult calendar holidays like Lamas and 929 01:08:24,199 --> 01:08:28,239 Volpurgis Night and all that stuff. But the codes appear 930 01:08:28,359 --> 01:08:33,479 to have had an actual cryptographic reference that would have 931 01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:37,800 been known to people, probably in the Office of Naval Intelligence. 932 01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:44,800 So that would suggest some kind of militarized former military, 933 01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:51,840 you know, contract killers this kind of thing. And citywide 934 01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:55,920 homicides reached twenty nine and four days, I believe under 935 01:08:57,039 --> 01:09:01,680 the Zodiac, and the Zodiac interestingly gets immediately tied up 936 01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:06,119 with Hollywood. Roman Polanski decides that he's going to do 937 01:09:06,159 --> 01:09:11,000 his own investigation of the Zodiac killing and he hires 938 01:09:11,359 --> 01:09:15,199 psychic Peter Herkos. This is crazy. I'd never heard this, 939 01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:27,800 and the events were held well. Herkos was involved in 940 01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:32,800 organizing a black Arts festival Halloween nineteen sixty nine with 941 01:09:33,159 --> 01:09:35,640 Timothy Larry and Anton Leavay. That's a new one to 942 01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:43,359 me anyway. So Dave argues that the military boot that 943 01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:45,680 was supposed to be part of the evidence of who 944 01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:55,000 the Zodiac guy was was issued to naval soldier personnel, 945 01:09:55,399 --> 01:10:02,039 so that would suggest again military really hits, which that 946 01:10:02,079 --> 01:10:12,359 makes sense. I mean, there was a call in show 947 01:10:13,359 --> 01:10:16,600 where supposedly the Zodiac called in. But who knows. I mean, 948 01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:18,520 this could just be people were just making this stuff. 949 01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:22,000 I think even that movie with Robert Downey Jr. And 950 01:10:22,319 --> 01:10:24,760 Jake Jillenhall if you were and Mark Ruffalo, if you 951 01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:27,039 remember this, what's pretty good movie. If you watch Zodiac 952 01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:33,000 when it really gets popular, there was you know, people 953 01:10:33,079 --> 01:10:37,520 were like people were just saying that they knew who 954 01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:42,079 the Zodiac was, like all these people. So this guy 955 01:10:42,119 --> 01:10:44,359 would probably just wanted ratings, you know, like like, oh, 956 01:10:44,399 --> 01:10:46,399 the Zodiac is gonna call in. He wrote a letter 957 01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:54,159 to our TV show. Yeah right, Santa Cruz starts having 958 01:10:55,399 --> 01:11:02,199 a lot of deaths and this is supposed to be 959 01:11:02,319 --> 01:11:06,720 connected to This is the seventies, late sixties, early seventies 960 01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:16,680 connected to Zodiac. And what's interesting about this is that 961 01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:20,079 Santa Cruz so that they were finding a lot of 962 01:11:20,079 --> 01:11:25,039 dead animals too. So there's this explosion of satanism and 963 01:11:25,039 --> 01:11:30,359 occultism and ritual sacrifice and here's a new detail. The 964 01:11:30,399 --> 01:11:34,039 notion of the Age of Aquarius was popularized by San 965 01:11:34,079 --> 01:11:38,279 Francisco groups like the Diggers who occupied the aforementioned Devil House, 966 01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:43,279 and by publications like San Francisco's Oracle. No one played 967 01:11:43,279 --> 01:11:46,920 a greater role in popularizing the Age of Aquarius than 968 01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:51,359 the Oracle Magazine's Gavin Arthur. Interestingly, Arthur's full name was 969 01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:54,720 Chester Alan Arthur, and he was the great grandson of 970 01:11:55,000 --> 01:12:01,359 President Chester Arthur. He predicted, supposedly JFK's assassination and before 971 01:12:01,399 --> 01:12:06,520 he was even elected. However, some attribute this to clairvoyance, 972 01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:10,039 while it is much more likely that he had fore knowledge. Interesting. Yes, 973 01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:15,119 just like there was a movie called Manchurian Candidate where 974 01:12:15,159 --> 01:12:22,319 a mind control Patsy attempts to assassinate presidential candidate before 975 01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:28,800 JFK was assassinated. Yes, go watch John Frankenheimer's mentoring Candidate. 976 01:12:32,000 --> 01:13:29,920 So let's see here, moving on to the next section. Married. 977 01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:32,479 Speaker 3: After all, despite all the talk about the eighty year 978 01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:34,880 old Manson preparing to marry a twenty seven year. 979 01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:36,359 Speaker 1: Old woman, I know you've been following this. 980 01:13:36,399 --> 01:13:39,800 Speaker 3: Case, and Manson has now said that he will allow 981 01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:42,399 the couple's marriage license to expire. 982 01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:44,319 Speaker 1: Why because it. 983 01:13:44,279 --> 01:13:46,640 Speaker 3: Turns out that the woman who was preparing to marry 984 01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:51,479 Manson wanted to place his remains once Manson dies in 985 01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:56,239 a glass crypt and sell tickets for people to view it. See, 986 01:13:56,239 --> 01:13:57,760 you knew there was a reason a twenty seven year 987 01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:01,479 old was marrying him. Apparently man doesn't like that idea, 988 01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:05,399 so he's pulling back, letting that license expire. The New 989 01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:08,600 York Post also reports that Manson is angry at the 990 01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:12,760 idea because he believes he is immortal. 991 01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:18,439 Speaker 1: Well, no, I I just added this in because it's 992 01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:22,159 so ridiculous, and I couldn't help it, given that we're 993 01:14:22,159 --> 01:14:26,399 talking about serial killers. And we're gonna finish up here 994 01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:30,199 with the rest of Dave's analysis and then I'll give 995 01:14:30,199 --> 01:14:33,720 my analysis. But I did a video a few months ago, 996 01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:37,279 one of the first videos that I started doing consistently, 997 01:14:37,319 --> 01:14:40,920 and I talked about Manson and the hype of race 998 01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:44,319 war and all this kind of stuff. And if you 999 01:14:44,359 --> 01:14:46,399 watch that video of you go back, and it's about 1000 01:14:46,399 --> 01:14:49,039 thirty forty minutes, you'll see that there's there's a clip 1001 01:14:49,079 --> 01:14:51,640 in there where Manson goes on and on about global 1002 01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:55,560 warming and climate change. So you know, this guy is 1003 01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:59,079 obviously some kind of total tool. I mean, he's not 1004 01:14:59,199 --> 01:15:05,399 even coherent enough to do anything other than I guess 1005 01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:09,840 pair it back whatever. I mean, the guy's just totally insane. Obviously, 1006 01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:13,920 But the thesis, of course of Dave McGowan and others 1007 01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:17,479 is that he's these guys were used and they've been 1008 01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:23,119 used by larger networks and so forth, and that as 1009 01:15:23,239 --> 01:15:27,000 Dave thinks, there may be instead of mafia the way 1010 01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:31,079 we used to think of various crime families and so forth, 1011 01:15:31,119 --> 01:15:34,560 that now it's kind of been replaced by this satanic 1012 01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:38,840 network of cultists, and there's not so much these big 1013 01:15:39,199 --> 01:15:42,279 crime families that we you know, the godfather in this constant, 1014 01:15:42,319 --> 01:15:44,840 it's still the mafia model, but it's just a different 1015 01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:51,520 kind of face that's being used now. We mentioned Henry 1016 01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:55,119 Lee Lucas, and we mentioned now there's also the case 1017 01:15:55,239 --> 01:16:00,199 of when we mentioned Zodiac and the oddities there, there's 1018 01:16:00,199 --> 01:16:03,680 also the case of Arlest Perry. And Arlest Perry was 1019 01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:08,479 the young girl who was murdered at college and she 1020 01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:14,079 had Masonic imagery drawn upon her body, carved into her 1021 01:16:14,359 --> 01:16:18,159 the square and compass, and her legs were put into 1022 01:16:18,159 --> 01:16:26,800 a square and compass formation. And yeah, I think a 1023 01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:31,359 candle had been inserted into her vagina from the altar. 1024 01:16:31,399 --> 01:16:33,840 And this had happened that this murder was done on 1025 01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:41,520 a church grounds inside the chapel at Stanford Memorial Church 1026 01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:46,760 at Stanford University. So assuming that this story is true, 1027 01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:51,720 then this would be another case of ritual murder. There's 1028 01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:55,880 a cult compound that the Mansons had, and Dave spends 1029 01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:59,960 a whole lengthy chapter on Manson and all the weird 1030 01:17:00,199 --> 01:17:04,079 Hollywood people hanging out with Manson and connections to the 1031 01:17:04,199 --> 01:17:07,760 Esslon Institute, which we've talked about many times, where in 1032 01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:12,600 Monterey you have this big New Age un type cult 1033 01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:17,439 compound that was connected to Timothy Leary and Elvis Huxley 1034 01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:20,920 and all these characters, and that they also ran a 1035 01:17:21,039 --> 01:17:25,800 Himalayan academy that had direct ties to Charles Manson as well. 1036 01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:28,880 So what's funny about the Manson thing is that he 1037 01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:31,159 doesn't fit the serial killer profile because he didn't actually 1038 01:17:31,239 --> 01:17:37,159 kill anybody. So the story, the mainstream story we're supposed 1039 01:17:37,199 --> 01:17:43,560 to accept, is that Manson brainwashed you know, these followers, 1040 01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:49,119 these groupies, and he was into this apocalyptic, you know, 1041 01:17:49,319 --> 01:17:52,680 processed church stuff. Basically, we're just gonna cut through all 1042 01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:57,399 the bullshit and say that this was all run by 1043 01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:01,479 something even bigger, is the main point, some bigger cult again, 1044 01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:04,359 just like Berkowitz and others, And this is why we 1045 01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:07,439 have these kind of handler characters like Timothy Leary, these 1046 01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:13,079 popularizers who are going around promoting the LSD. And Dave 1047 01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:17,439 dives into that with the character of Owlsley, another one 1048 01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:21,960 of these creators and promoters of LSD in Laurel Weird 1049 01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:24,039 Scenes inside Laurel Canyon. He goes into a lot of 1050 01:18:24,079 --> 01:18:26,800 depth there and how many of these people were all 1051 01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:29,439 connected to the CIA. So a lot of these are 1052 01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:33,640 drug hits. And we have the Eyesweite shut Stall parties 1053 01:18:34,199 --> 01:18:37,920 with the Manson crew as well. I think Dennis Hopper 1054 01:18:38,119 --> 01:18:42,319 mentioned this going on. Da've discusses this on pages one 1055 01:18:43,079 --> 01:18:47,920 forty three, and that bears out other writers who've written 1056 01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:51,159 on this. Peter Lavenda and Sinister Force's trilogy discusses the 1057 01:18:51,199 --> 01:18:55,119 same claims the same topics, and so really what we 1058 01:18:55,159 --> 01:18:57,800 have with Manson is a character who I think, as 1059 01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:01,960 we said, what military prison the giant prison complex is 1060 01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:05,880 also tied into military complex, and that's also tied into 1061 01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:10,159 the psychiatric complex. And what happens is is that these 1062 01:19:10,239 --> 01:19:16,479 characters are profiled and spotted and then used for different purposes, 1063 01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:21,520 maybe a contract killing, as we said, maybe to kidnap 1064 01:19:22,319 --> 01:19:28,600 kids or people for human trafficking, and what we see 1065 01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:34,600 pretty consistently is that we can raise questions about a 1066 01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:41,039 lot of the psychiatric institutions and rehab centers as possible 1067 01:19:41,119 --> 01:19:46,199 programming locales. And that's even come up in pop fiction. 1068 01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:50,880 If you watched True Detective season two, that seems to 1069 01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:55,399 hint at the Esslin Institute as well as Thomas Pincheon's 1070 01:19:55,720 --> 01:20:02,520 Inherent Vice with the film version, as well with Joaquin Phoenix. 1071 01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:05,199 You know, both of these seem to show this high 1072 01:20:05,279 --> 01:20:09,119 level mind control type stuff and these shadowy CIA type 1073 01:20:09,119 --> 01:20:13,880 figures in the background. So we always see these these 1074 01:20:15,039 --> 01:20:19,720 contradictions pop up, and this is what is noted here 1075 01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:24,359 by Dave. On page one, he says it defies explanation 1076 01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:26,640 that men such as Manson or Jim Jones or David 1077 01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:31,119 Koresh have all stumbled upon the secret of brainwashing and 1078 01:20:31,199 --> 01:20:35,960 mind controlling their followers, but the CIA does not have 1079 01:20:36,039 --> 01:20:39,800 this ability. So the mainstream story is a flat out 1080 01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:43,239 contradiction because they always say that these cult leaders and 1081 01:20:43,279 --> 01:20:46,439 serial killers and whoever, that they have all these powers 1082 01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:49,760 of mind control and brainwashing. But at the same time, 1083 01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:52,800 the establishment says that the CIA was never successful and 1084 01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:58,439 did not really perfect these mind control, brainwashing programs. So again, 1085 01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:02,680 obviously that's a bunch of blooney. So twenty four people 1086 01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:08,039 were killed in the nineteen seventies by we're told by 1087 01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:14,840 insane asylum people that had been released from the Vacaville facility. Now, 1088 01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:18,800 why would they release all these nutcases from Vaukaville. Well, 1089 01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:25,359 probably as part of this larger American domestic version of 1090 01:21:26,039 --> 01:21:28,640 the Phoenix program. And what he talks about in the 1091 01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:32,079 last sections of the book is that the thesis is 1092 01:21:32,119 --> 01:21:36,239 that the psychological warfare pattern that was tested in Vietnam 1093 01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:39,119 on the viet Cong, the whole point of it was 1094 01:21:39,159 --> 01:21:40,840 just to scare the crap out of the viet Cong 1095 01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:43,479 and make them lose morale and break their will. And 1096 01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:48,359 that is exactly what makes perfect sense in terms of 1097 01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:53,399 understanding that program in terms of the US, in terms 1098 01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:58,800 of American domestic experience over this several decades of what 1099 01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:04,399 is supposed to be the all the serial killers everywhere, 1100 01:22:05,319 --> 01:22:10,039 so we get more characters like Herb Mullin. This is 1101 01:22:10,079 --> 01:22:13,960 a guy who apparently went into had multiple personalities, and 1102 01:22:14,039 --> 01:22:17,840 he went into the Marines and was going to be 1103 01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:20,640 a killer, and he went into this kind of an 1104 01:22:21,159 --> 01:22:27,880 assassination type program, and this is reminiscent of full Metal Jacket. 1105 01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:32,680 This guy and apparently he went to some locale in Maui, Hawaii, 1106 01:22:33,239 --> 01:22:36,520 which is reported to be one of these facilities where 1107 01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:40,920 they train assassins. And if this sounds too far vetched, 1108 01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:44,760 remember in the eighties and prior to that, we had 1109 01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:49,279 the whole story of the Latin American death squads, right 1110 01:22:49,359 --> 01:22:53,399 where the CIA set up these training camps for death squads, 1111 01:22:54,359 --> 01:22:58,439 which would by extension, also be connected to the Phoenix program. Right, 1112 01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:04,640 this idea of training professional assassins and basically psychos who 1113 01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:10,000 because their psychos lose their mind eventually. Right. So now 1114 01:23:10,039 --> 01:23:13,079 you might say, well, but I thought you said that 1115 01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:20,600 there were no there weren't programmed assassins. Now that's some 1116 01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:23,000 people's view, that's not my view. What I always said 1117 01:23:23,159 --> 01:23:27,159 was that there are both. They did all these programs, 1118 01:23:27,199 --> 01:23:30,800 and they ran all these tests during these periods right 1119 01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:33,359 from the forties and the fifties sixties. And this includes 1120 01:23:33,399 --> 01:23:37,680 all the psychiatric stuff, all the hypnosis, all the drug testing, 1121 01:23:38,159 --> 01:23:41,760 basically what we call him kildra, all of that was done, 1122 01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:50,600 and it eventually morphs into electronic implants and bio warfare DARPA. Right, 1123 01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:53,880 this is the last chapter of John Marx's book. So 1124 01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:57,479 that's all an outworking of that, and it's really just 1125 01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:02,239 controlling the human domain. All right. We remember this program 1126 01:24:02,279 --> 01:24:04,800 that was mentioned in connection to Jade Helm a couple 1127 01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:08,439 of years ago. Really that's the same idea of what 1128 01:24:09,079 --> 01:24:12,159 in Culture was about, where the totality of human experience, 1129 01:24:12,159 --> 01:24:14,720 which is not just the individual psyche, but also the 1130 01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:20,960 collective collective sociology, collective psyche as well. So the argument 1131 01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:23,199 then would be that what happens is when you study 1132 01:24:23,279 --> 01:24:26,800 the individual cases of these different characters, these different psychos, 1133 01:24:27,319 --> 01:24:32,119 and how to entrain them and depattern them and then 1134 01:24:32,159 --> 01:24:35,359 reprogram and so forth the stuff that you and Cameron 1135 01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:40,760 was doing, that leads to various ideas of what you 1136 01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:42,920 could do to the mass psyche. And that's the role 1137 01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:45,680 that mass media plays. And so that's my view of it. 1138 01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:47,199 My view of it is that they did all these 1139 01:24:48,319 --> 01:24:52,159 situations with actual guys and actual people, and hence Doug 1140 01:24:52,239 --> 01:24:55,680 Valentine's book Phoenix Program and then or in the Latin 1141 01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:58,079 American desk squads and all this kind of stuff, and 1142 01:24:58,119 --> 01:25:02,159 then they what was more useful than you know, just 1143 01:25:02,279 --> 01:25:05,600 a contract killer or some crazy guy that you could 1144 01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:12,159 get to kidnap people or whatever they because that's a million, 1145 01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:15,000 you know, millions and millions of dollars involved in orgon 1146 01:25:15,039 --> 01:25:19,640 harvesting and human trafficking. Right, So, but all of that data, 1147 01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:22,760 that information, all the studies that were done, could then 1148 01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:26,880 be used for a large scale social engineering. And you say, well, 1149 01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:28,760 who would be interested in that? Well, think about the 1150 01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:31,640 Rand Corporation, right, the Rand Corporation would be interested in 1151 01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:35,199 taking all that data, collating it and figuring out, well, 1152 01:25:35,239 --> 01:25:37,079 how could we use this for the so called war 1153 01:25:37,119 --> 01:25:41,399 and terror? You see, So the same ideas of basically 1154 01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:48,199 inducing threat and terrorizing the public with Cold War and 1155 01:25:48,279 --> 01:25:51,399 serial killers and assassins. And by the way, the serial 1156 01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:57,079 killer stuff actually ties well with the Cold War assassins stuff, 1157 01:25:57,119 --> 01:26:00,439 and the right because of Sir and sirhan Oh, we're 1158 01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:03,760 supposed to believe he was this you know, trained occultist 1159 01:26:04,119 --> 01:26:08,960 assassin and he went after RFK and oh Lee Harvey Oswald. 1160 01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:12,000 He's a programmed assassin that the Soviets scent, right according 1161 01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:14,319 to the mainstream story I'm saying, right, And so this 1162 01:26:14,399 --> 01:26:17,000 is well, this is all a lot of Boloney obviously, 1163 01:26:17,119 --> 01:26:19,239 and I doubt that we'll ever really know the full 1164 01:26:19,279 --> 01:26:21,520 story of either of those cases, but I can guarantee 1165 01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:23,880 you that what we're told in the official story is 1166 01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:29,520 not true and anyway, so what we're starting to see 1167 01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:32,640 is the patterns of certain locations, like the Vaucaville facility, 1168 01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:37,000 which appears to be you know, involved very heavily in this. 1169 01:26:37,079 --> 01:26:40,800 According to Dave's argument, we're seeing the pattern of a 1170 01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:42,720 lot of these guys who are very messed up, are 1171 01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:49,720 into necrophilia, and then they they tend to have alternate personas, 1172 01:26:50,239 --> 01:26:55,439 they tend to have even perhaps demonic issues on page 1173 01:26:55,439 --> 01:27:02,680 one fifty seven. Now, it's not all secret DARPA Voice 1174 01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:06,560 to Skull technology, which some people will say. Who've had 1175 01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:10,960 some people commenting on the introductory video that I made saying, oh, 1176 01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:13,680 this is stupid, there's no none of this is real. 1177 01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:15,960 I don't know what planet you guys are from, but 1178 01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:18,960 I mean, have you ever been around crazy people? I have? 1179 01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:22,119 And I'm talking about people who, you know, I have 1180 01:27:22,319 --> 01:27:25,680 had serious psychological problems. I've had them in my family, 1181 01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:30,119 not me, but family members who have been prescribed as 1182 01:27:30,239 --> 01:27:34,159 serious psychoactive drugs, who've been on these for a long time. 1183 01:27:34,239 --> 01:27:37,560 I've had friends on these who go nuts try to 1184 01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:40,560 commit suicide. There. This is not all fake. And if 1185 01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:43,159 you honestly, literally think that it is, I don't know 1186 01:27:43,319 --> 01:27:46,560 what planet you live on or where you're from. I mean, 1187 01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:49,399 I've seen people in my family try to kill themselves 1188 01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:54,800 from these kinds of drugs. So I'm just speaking here 1189 01:27:54,800 --> 01:28:01,039 of like the psychiatric you know, antidepressant type stuff. And 1190 01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:04,399 you know, in my younger days, when you be around 1191 01:28:04,399 --> 01:28:07,800 people who are on drugs and partying and whatnot, and 1192 01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:11,319 you just see people go nuts and something else takes over. 1193 01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:15,199 And if you think that that's all fake, well, number one, 1194 01:28:15,239 --> 01:28:18,239 that's a mental problem on your part. It's not all fake. 1195 01:28:19,039 --> 01:28:25,600 If you think that it's merely something random or chaotic, 1196 01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:28,800 and you don't think that the establishment has studied the stuff, 1197 01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:33,039 well then you're just naive. But you know, we think 1198 01:28:33,079 --> 01:28:35,680 of movies that tie into this kind of stuff, which 1199 01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:39,359 is interesting because Natural Born Killers, you know, Quentin Tarantino 1200 01:28:39,399 --> 01:28:44,560 Oliver Stone film that actually deals with this notion. It 1201 01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:50,479 points out the absurdity of how the mainstream media actually 1202 01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:53,920 makes the serial killers into stars. And now that was 1203 01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:57,319 done on purpose, that was not just ratings and sensationalism, 1204 01:28:57,319 --> 01:28:59,359 but also, as I said, to really prop up the 1205 01:28:59,399 --> 01:29:04,119 mythology of the serial killer. Another pattern that Dave notices 1206 01:29:04,239 --> 01:29:06,840 is what he claims that I'd never heard of this, 1207 01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:10,840 but he says that there's this idea in training people 1208 01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:18,079 to be killers or assassins of blooding, and that it's 1209 01:29:18,119 --> 01:29:20,680 the same idea that you know that pemps use when 1210 01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:25,720 they break people. When pimps break, they hose blooding is 1211 01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:30,039 the idea of traumatizing a person who might be a 1212 01:29:30,119 --> 01:29:35,199 future assassin early on through some experience of the gruesome. Right, 1213 01:29:35,239 --> 01:29:38,199 So maybe they work at a morgue and they're constantly 1214 01:29:38,199 --> 01:29:44,119 seeing cadavers, or they you know, like the stories that 1215 01:29:44,119 --> 01:29:48,920 we hear about traumatized youth that they have their dog, 1216 01:29:49,359 --> 01:29:51,960 you know, maybe they're in a cult and the cult 1217 01:29:52,119 --> 01:29:54,199 kills their dog in front of them and this traumatizes 1218 01:29:54,199 --> 01:29:57,119 them when they're a kid. I think this is true. 1219 01:29:57,119 --> 01:30:01,680 I know somebody who had something very traumatic happened to 1220 01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:05,680 them when they were very young. In this case, it 1221 01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:10,520 was accidental when they were about four, and as a result, 1222 01:30:11,039 --> 01:30:18,199 they have had very serious problems with lack of empathy. 1223 01:30:18,399 --> 01:30:21,840 And I guess you might consider it like mild psychopathy 1224 01:30:22,359 --> 01:30:27,800 as a result of a youth traumatization, and I would 1225 01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:32,119 I think that it's you know, the prevailing literature that 1226 01:30:32,199 --> 01:30:34,159 I've read on this tends to say, oh, well, it's 1227 01:30:34,199 --> 01:30:36,920 a defense mechanism that the brain and acts, and I 1228 01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:39,840 think that makes sense. That seems to line up with 1229 01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:46,079 my experience. But Dave goes back into mentioning some of 1230 01:30:46,119 --> 01:30:48,920 the guys that we've touched on many times. You've studied 1231 01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:51,880 altars and all this stuff with the doctor Esterbrooks and 1232 01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:57,279 his hypnosis work, and people that have studied a d 1233 01:30:57,399 --> 01:31:01,840 ID and MPD, and he mentions the false Memory Syndrome 1234 01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:07,079 foundation again as the primary characters who deny ritual abuse, 1235 01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:10,399 and they are of course connected to the CIA, very 1236 01:31:10,399 --> 01:31:14,199 shady characters. Colin Ross has a lot of information on 1237 01:31:14,199 --> 01:31:19,520 this that's really good critiquing these characters. He mentioned the 1238 01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:26,479 Simionese Liberation operation as some kind of sciop, either a 1239 01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:31,800 CIA sy op research or something kind of a large 1240 01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:37,399 scale psychological warfare operation that really got the SWAT team 1241 01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:43,600 stuff going, the SLA incident and the Charles Whittemore incident 1242 01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:47,680 at the University of Texas. If I recall or the 1243 01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:53,439 instances he lists as really kicking off the call for 1244 01:31:55,119 --> 01:32:00,600 local police departments to be completely militarized and in some 1245 01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:07,079 degree federalized and to start having these swat teams. Then 1246 01:32:07,199 --> 01:32:10,640 we move on to and also necrophilia is interesting as 1247 01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:15,800 a consistent pattern, which is interesting because there's this weird 1248 01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:23,600 obsession with sex and death that probably is what made 1249 01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:28,159 these guys profiled at a younger age. And this is 1250 01:32:28,199 --> 01:32:32,720 really what the whole institutional system, medical system that all 1251 01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:36,119 that it kind of exists to education system, right to 1252 01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:41,199 find these kinds of psycho freak weirdos again who can 1253 01:32:41,239 --> 01:32:46,000 be used. So this goes on with you know, maybe 1254 01:32:46,039 --> 01:32:50,520 these guys were sent to maybe they're so they're abused, 1255 01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:54,720 and then they're known for necrophilia or some kind of 1256 01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:56,840 weird practice like this, and then maybe they're sent to 1257 01:32:57,239 --> 01:33:03,079 an institution to be you know, counseled or whatever. And 1258 01:33:03,119 --> 01:33:05,279 then this gets flagged. Right, so, oh, here here's the 1259 01:33:05,279 --> 01:33:10,520 guy we found one. He likes gay sex, he likes 1260 01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:16,640 killing animals, he likes necrophilia. He could be very useful, right, 1261 01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:19,119 this kind of idea to the dark side of the 1262 01:33:19,159 --> 01:33:24,319 deep state, and this brings in the character John Wayne 1263 01:33:24,359 --> 01:33:36,840 Gacy and John Wayne Gacy is was connected to local police. 1264 01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:43,880 He was like this adjunct cop and he was using 1265 01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:53,720 that cop you know status to get access, I guess 1266 01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:57,159 you could say, and cover to the local gay boys 1267 01:33:57,399 --> 01:34:01,520 and bring them in and uh, you know, raped them 1268 01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:04,119 and tortured them and killed them. And then what we 1269 01:34:04,199 --> 01:34:11,359 have is the the weird instance of him meeting with 1270 01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:16,960 the a as a Democratic Party dude, very well connected 1271 01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:25,159 apparently in the Chicago area. If I recall, there's a 1272 01:34:25,199 --> 01:34:27,399 lot of details here. It's sometimes it's difficult to recall 1273 01:34:27,399 --> 01:34:30,000 every one of these details as to you know, who's 1274 01:34:30,079 --> 01:34:37,279 in where and what doing what. But gay Cy was 1275 01:34:37,319 --> 01:34:40,560 a very prominent j C. And so his connections to 1276 01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:42,960 the j c's, which is one of these local, you know, 1277 01:34:43,079 --> 01:34:47,520 rotary club club type things that helped him have cover, 1278 01:34:48,319 --> 01:34:50,720 as well as these connections to the police. And apparently 1279 01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:53,239 and this was actually in the movie presentation too. There's 1280 01:34:53,279 --> 01:34:57,840 a TV movie with Brian Denahey playing Gaysey that is 1281 01:34:58,439 --> 01:35:00,720 worth watching. It's not a great movie, but it's like 1282 01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:06,199 four hours long, but kind of roughly follows the arguments 1283 01:35:06,239 --> 01:35:11,800 that Dave makes, and that shows. What it doesn't show 1284 01:35:12,039 --> 01:35:16,319 is that Gaysey claimed to have an alternate personality named 1285 01:35:16,399 --> 01:35:22,720 Jack Hanley who would take him over and commit the killings, 1286 01:35:22,760 --> 01:35:25,760 and that there possibly were other police involved in that. 1287 01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:29,399 This is why it was covered up for so long, right, 1288 01:35:29,479 --> 01:35:32,760 So it wasn't just in other words, it might have 1289 01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:35,560 been a situation where there was a prostitution ring of 1290 01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:43,600 boys and drugs, and maybe local officials were involved, including Gaycy, 1291 01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:45,960 and so this is why it's covered up. And then 1292 01:35:46,319 --> 01:35:50,520 anytime there was a threat of somebody ratting or trying 1293 01:35:50,520 --> 01:35:54,520 to expose it, that would then lead to the murder. 1294 01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:59,479 You see, that's a possibility, and that's not it's kind 1295 01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:02,840 of hinted at in the movie if you watch the 1296 01:36:03,119 --> 01:36:05,359 Henry Portrait of a Killer movie from I don't know, 1297 01:36:05,399 --> 01:36:10,880 like nineteen ninety or somewhere in there, and it's hinted 1298 01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:13,840 at that the higher ups, like the police chief and 1299 01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:18,000 these other guys in you know, the big city area, 1300 01:36:18,399 --> 01:36:21,399 they were covering it up or they were trying to 1301 01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:27,840 squash the investigation of the local police. So interesting connections 1302 01:36:27,880 --> 01:36:34,760 to investigations done by the private investigator, the famous Hollywood 1303 01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:47,199 private investigator, Anthony Pelicano. And Pelicano was I'm trying to 1304 01:36:47,199 --> 01:36:51,439 remember how he says he was connected to Gaysey. Following 1305 01:36:51,439 --> 01:36:55,720 the disappearance of one of Gasey's employees, Greg Godsnick Godzick, 1306 01:36:57,199 --> 01:37:01,760 Gaysey was not questioned by police. Oddzig's frustrated parents turned 1307 01:37:01,800 --> 01:37:03,640 to help to Anthony Okay there so they went to 1308 01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:09,840 Anthony Pelicano. Anthony Pelicano never checked out Gaysey and later 1309 01:37:09,920 --> 01:37:14,920 claimed that he had never been given this name. Godzig 1310 01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:19,479 was a portly seen very much alive after his reported abduction, 1311 01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:26,039 as was one other victim of Gaysey, John Sayzick, and 1312 01:37:26,119 --> 01:37:29,279 one of the bizarre coincidences that seems to surround many 1313 01:37:29,279 --> 01:37:32,880 serial killer cases, the Godsdick home was burglarized the night 1314 01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:37,239 before the story of John Wayne Gacy's arrest hit the airwaves. 1315 01:37:37,279 --> 01:37:41,079 The family of victim Rick Johnson was convinced that Rick 1316 01:37:41,239 --> 01:37:45,000 was abducted by Sun Young Moon in the Unification Church, 1317 01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:49,600 an organization heavily steeped in my control and with connections 1318 01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:53,359 to South Korea's CIA or the k CIA, which was 1319 01:37:53,479 --> 01:37:59,720 set up by the CIA. So that's interesting because yeah, 1320 01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:03,359 the Moon the Moonies have these connections to the Bush family, 1321 01:38:03,479 --> 01:38:07,880 and then you know it's obviously a mind control CIA 1322 01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:12,479 type thing, and then we get to Ted Bundy. Ted 1323 01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:19,039 Bundy of course has these weird fetishists and he is 1324 01:38:19,079 --> 01:38:25,880 connected to He was a young GOP, rising young GOP. Now, 1325 01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:29,239 excuse me, Ted Bundy is supporting Nelson Rockefeller, as we mentioned. 1326 01:38:29,239 --> 01:38:33,159 Excuse me, I'm thinking of Dahmer, but both of them 1327 01:38:33,159 --> 01:38:38,960 are rising GOP guys. Right, skulls were found in the 1328 01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:42,039 case of Ted, and this is where the FBI comes 1329 01:38:42,079 --> 01:38:45,399 in and sets up the Ted squad, and this is 1330 01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:55,119 really kicking off this FBI pattern of or promotion of 1331 01:38:55,239 --> 01:38:59,520 looking for this serial killer. And Ted Bundy says, Oh, 1332 01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:01,760 there's other in on this, of course, but they're not 1333 01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:06,760 ever explained or mentioned. No photos were apparently allowed in 1334 01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:13,359 the prosecution of Ted, which is interesting because Dave argues 1335 01:39:13,439 --> 01:39:17,319 that that might have implicated other police, other officials who 1336 01:39:17,399 --> 01:39:23,479 were probably involved with Ted, but we don't know. California, Texas, Florida, 1337 01:39:23,960 --> 01:39:28,239 this is the standard areas of the serial killers, and 1338 01:39:28,279 --> 01:39:31,520 then of course Chicago, I guess as well. These are 1339 01:39:31,560 --> 01:39:37,159 of course known drug and mob areas. So another one 1340 01:39:37,199 --> 01:39:41,479 of these characters that pops up serial killer, sicko, pedo, 1341 01:39:42,279 --> 01:39:47,279 self mutilation, GEKT, What is this guy's name Robin Gekt, 1342 01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:55,119 and he is a multiple personality guy who was probably abused, 1343 01:39:56,279 --> 01:40:02,079 and he was into beastiality, which, by the way, you 1344 01:40:02,079 --> 01:40:04,439 can see now that the promotion of bestiality which is 1345 01:40:04,479 --> 01:40:08,159 happening in university sects, shops on campuses, by the way, 1346 01:40:08,159 --> 01:40:11,279 they're promoting bestiality. You can find those articles online at 1347 01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:16,520 Campus Reform and other sites. You can see that the 1348 01:40:16,520 --> 01:40:20,760 promotion of bestiality, which I believe Adorno talked about, this 1349 01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:25,560 is all towards the depersonalization and dehumanization of society. So 1350 01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:32,039 they the serial killer stuff is very close to that 1351 01:40:32,239 --> 01:40:38,039 Frankfurt School type toxic culture stuff because the promotion of 1352 01:40:38,079 --> 01:40:40,960 the whole serial killer mythos and ethos as we just 1353 01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:44,640 saw this checking the video clip with Ben Swann talking 1354 01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:48,199 about how she wants to marry Manson. Obviously she's wanting 1355 01:40:48,239 --> 01:40:50,680 to make money from it because she's going to, you know, 1356 01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:55,119 put his remains in a on display or whatever. But 1357 01:41:00,039 --> 01:41:08,039 what's interesting is that the well, in the case of Ghekt, 1358 01:41:08,399 --> 01:41:14,239 for example, we have another instance of of Satanism. And 1359 01:41:14,279 --> 01:41:17,840 so the idea here is that Ghekt may have been 1360 01:41:17,880 --> 01:41:23,640 connected to the Ripper Crew another one of these outfits 1361 01:41:23,680 --> 01:41:28,239 that's famous for killing a lot of people. Another character 1362 01:41:28,279 --> 01:41:34,159 of the Sunset Stripped Murder was maybe Lieutenant Franklin Clark, 1363 01:41:34,479 --> 01:41:40,720 who's give birth to Doug Clark. Uh, and another series 1364 01:41:40,760 --> 01:41:46,239 of you know, Doug Clark. Another bunch of sickos, and 1365 01:41:46,319 --> 01:41:47,680 it just goes on and on on. I mean that 1366 01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:50,079 it's kind of gross to continue talking about all these 1367 01:41:50,079 --> 01:41:53,439 guys and there they're practices. But what's funny is that 1368 01:41:53,439 --> 01:41:56,159 they get sent to a lot of times these military 1369 01:41:56,600 --> 01:41:59,479 and medical facilities because of their you know, part of 1370 01:41:59,479 --> 01:42:03,479 the v A or whatever, because they're former military guys, 1371 01:42:03,479 --> 01:42:12,800 which could suggest you know, programming and whatnot, and that 1372 01:42:12,800 --> 01:42:17,399 that also could suggest the Phoenix program, which Dave McGowan 1373 01:42:17,479 --> 01:42:20,680 mentions in the case of Richard Ramirez, the Nights Talker. 1374 01:42:21,319 --> 01:42:27,680 And what's interesting about Ramirez is that there's all this oblivious, 1375 01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:32,840 you know, occult black magic stuff that was even in 1376 01:42:32,880 --> 01:42:37,119 the mainstream news, but it's just kind of been oh, well, 1377 01:42:37,119 --> 01:42:40,439 that's just you know the proclivities of him as an individual, 1378 01:42:40,880 --> 01:42:45,239 eccentric weirdo. Well why does it keep popping up? And 1379 01:42:45,319 --> 01:42:49,359 could it suggest you know more, I mean, maybe the 1380 01:42:49,359 --> 01:42:54,079 forty deaths attributed to I guess Ramirez, maybe he wasn't 1381 01:42:54,079 --> 01:42:58,279 the only one doing that, right, And I mean, do 1382 01:42:58,319 --> 01:43:05,279 you really expect people in some SCO cult not to 1383 01:43:05,359 --> 01:43:09,600 frame some idiot in their cult? Right, So if they 1384 01:43:09,680 --> 01:43:13,520 find like if you have a cult and you know 1385 01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:17,840 you're doing something like drug trafficking or human trafficking, the 1386 01:43:17,880 --> 01:43:21,279 same same as the situation with the that I mentioned 1387 01:43:21,279 --> 01:43:23,359 with gay Cy and the JCS and the cops. Right, 1388 01:43:24,039 --> 01:43:25,640 what do you what are you going to do? Like 1389 01:43:25,840 --> 01:43:28,560 you understand criminology, you know how to get away with things. 1390 01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:32,399 So what might you do? Well, you might find some 1391 01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:36,359 dupe who gets interested in your cult and you realize, man, 1392 01:43:36,359 --> 01:43:39,399 this dude is f and nuts, right, you know he 1393 01:43:39,479 --> 01:43:43,520 was probably abused. Maybe you have cult members that know 1394 01:43:43,560 --> 01:43:46,840 about him, family members, you know they know about Oh 1395 01:43:46,920 --> 01:43:50,079 this is my cousin Richard. He's a total nutcase, right, 1396 01:43:50,239 --> 01:43:52,560 And this was the case and that with Richard Ramirez 1397 01:43:52,760 --> 01:43:57,359 was his uncle or somebody knew about him, and so 1398 01:43:57,399 --> 01:44:03,039 he kind of wrote roped him into this network. And 1399 01:44:03,079 --> 01:44:06,279 then you get him and you use him for whatever 1400 01:44:06,279 --> 01:44:09,960 your purposes are. And then if it comes up that 1401 01:44:11,119 --> 01:44:16,600 oh uh, you know he's caught or he screws botched job, 1402 01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:18,880 or he screws something up. Well, then he takes the 1403 01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:21,920 heat for all the killing, right, And meanwhile you've been 1404 01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:24,399 using him and you've been in doctrineing him and telling 1405 01:44:24,439 --> 01:44:27,920 him that, oh, you know, you're the enemy of our 1406 01:44:27,960 --> 01:44:30,399 cult is x y Z and he's going to rat 1407 01:44:30,479 --> 01:44:33,039 us out or for whatever. So you know what you 1408 01:44:33,079 --> 01:44:35,199 do these people, because they're nuts, they don't have no 1409 01:44:35,239 --> 01:44:38,920 idea what's going on. They probably do have altars, right, 1410 01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:40,920 so they they serve a purpose, is what I'm trying 1411 01:44:40,960 --> 01:44:45,000 to say. And if you if people in the establishment 1412 01:44:45,079 --> 01:44:50,840 know all this, then if the cult or the group 1413 01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:55,079 or whatever has members in the establishment, then that's how 1414 01:44:55,119 --> 01:44:59,840 these things, if you know, could be covered up. Now, 1415 01:45:00,039 --> 01:45:02,079 another one of these characters who he mentioned some of 1416 01:45:02,079 --> 01:45:06,199 the guys who were into collecting body parts of the collector, 1417 01:45:06,680 --> 01:45:10,840 this type of gross stuff the Collector. I didn't realize 1418 01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:14,079 this because but I've read John Fowls's famous novel, which 1419 01:45:14,079 --> 01:45:16,159 if you do grad studies in literature, it'll be on 1420 01:45:16,199 --> 01:45:19,560 a list that you're supposed to read The Magas, and 1421 01:45:19,600 --> 01:45:21,680 I read the Vegas, and I've mentioned it in my book, 1422 01:45:21,760 --> 01:45:24,920 and you know this is because it suggests the idea 1423 01:45:25,000 --> 01:45:28,239 of very rich people being able to engineer large scale 1424 01:45:28,880 --> 01:45:33,439 psy ops. And John Fowls apparently wrote another book though, 1425 01:45:33,640 --> 01:45:37,960 called The Collector, which is about some psycho who likes 1426 01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:44,960 to collect things, or he doesn't just collect butterflies and 1427 01:45:46,680 --> 01:45:51,760 you know, staple them to a corkboard or something. He collects. 1428 01:45:53,039 --> 01:45:54,439 He starts with that, and then he I guess, he 1429 01:45:54,479 --> 01:46:01,159 starts collecting body parts. And so this what's this guy's name? 1430 01:46:01,199 --> 01:46:09,399 It's crazy. First one, Gary Heydnik, is the next person 1431 01:46:09,640 --> 01:46:14,359 in Gary is connected to this is one of the 1432 01:46:14,640 --> 01:46:17,760 downsides of Day's book is that it kind of it 1433 01:46:17,880 --> 01:46:22,119 goes through so much information that I kind of get 1434 01:46:22,159 --> 01:46:26,560 lost in who's who. So then there's like these other guys, 1435 01:46:26,640 --> 01:46:30,560 Leonard Lake and Charles ing Ing, which I guess is 1436 01:46:32,000 --> 01:46:38,279 like Filipino or something. But these guys were filming bondage 1437 01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:42,600 porn and then apparently got into snuff films, and the 1438 01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:44,399 idea was that, oh, they were being used by a 1439 01:46:44,439 --> 01:46:46,960 larger network, and I think that then the Hydnik character 1440 01:46:47,399 --> 01:46:55,119 was also had multiple personalities, and then we come to 1441 01:46:55,159 --> 01:47:03,880 the next guy, Bobby Burdella. Bobby Burdella was a military 1442 01:47:05,760 --> 01:47:10,479 guy and he got into I think I can't remember 1443 01:47:10,479 --> 01:47:17,279 if he's maybe he wasn't military. Apparently he was just 1444 01:47:17,279 --> 01:47:21,479 a hood and then he got into body parts and cannibalism, 1445 01:47:21,600 --> 01:47:26,560 sort of eating people, and he set up a house 1446 01:47:26,600 --> 01:47:37,760 of horrors and Bobby Burdella, let's see, okay, so who 1447 01:47:37,760 --> 01:47:40,319 comes the CIA people come in to try to solve 1448 01:47:40,359 --> 01:47:44,960 this case. Yeah, Bobby Burdella was kind of doing the 1449 01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:49,680 same thing as Gacy, except he was grabbing boys, drugging 1450 01:47:49,720 --> 01:47:54,760 them and raping them and torturing them, and supposedly one 1451 01:47:54,760 --> 01:47:59,920 of them got away. And then we've got Leonard Lake, 1452 01:48:00,159 --> 01:48:02,520 Charles ng Or drugging people and doing the same thing. 1453 01:48:03,680 --> 01:48:06,920 And then Heraldo if you remember his videos and his 1454 01:48:07,039 --> 01:48:12,399 report which I've watched, those those are interesting where they 1455 01:48:12,439 --> 01:48:17,720 covered the occult crimes in late eighties early nineties, satanic 1456 01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:24,279 panic stuff, and Heroldo actually brings up some of the 1457 01:48:24,600 --> 01:48:28,560 esoteric and occult stuff in relationship to Bobby Bardella. And 1458 01:48:28,600 --> 01:48:32,680 then two people want the CIA guy, Troy Cole and 1459 01:48:32,760 --> 01:48:37,159 Michael Akino come on Heraldo and debunk it and say, no, 1460 01:48:37,159 --> 01:48:41,880 none of that exists, that there's no such thing, which 1461 01:48:41,920 --> 01:48:47,960 is preposterous. But this is what Dave says. So another 1462 01:48:48,000 --> 01:48:55,079 interesting thing that I never heard. Dave says that the 1463 01:48:56,560 --> 01:48:59,640 that Roy Rayden of the Cotton Club murder, this is 1464 01:48:59,680 --> 01:49:11,359 direct connect to Hollywood, was killed by a ritual execution 1465 01:49:13,000 --> 01:49:18,840 shot repealing the head by three of magazine publisher Larry 1466 01:49:19,000 --> 01:49:23,479 Flint's former bodyguards, and one of them was Charles Manson 1467 01:49:23,560 --> 01:49:29,439 associate Bill Mintzer. So here you have the connection to 1468 01:49:29,600 --> 01:49:35,439 high level porn, the Cotton Club murders. And then yeah, 1469 01:49:35,479 --> 01:49:38,239 Gary Heidnik, as I said, so he's a vet. And 1470 01:49:38,279 --> 01:49:42,479 what's interesting about him is that he becomes this United 1471 01:49:42,640 --> 01:49:46,039 Church of God, some church of the of the ministers 1472 01:49:46,039 --> 01:49:49,279 of some weird Protestant evangelical sect, and that he sets 1473 01:49:49,359 --> 01:49:52,520 up as his he's the minister of a bishop, and 1474 01:49:52,560 --> 01:49:55,399 he sets up torture dungeons, and he starts he works 1475 01:49:55,439 --> 01:49:59,039 at some mental health facility, and he starts kidnapping retarded 1476 01:49:59,039 --> 01:50:03,560 black women, and he tortures him in the dungeon. And 1477 01:50:03,760 --> 01:50:08,600 Gary Dave claims was used in military LSD experiments. This 1478 01:50:08,760 --> 01:50:13,920 is pages two fifty eight, two fifteen nine, And this 1479 01:50:14,079 --> 01:50:18,279 was at a site in Germany. And it's the same 1480 01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:28,159 locale that other supposed killers were paramilitary guys were trained, 1481 01:50:28,239 --> 01:50:36,159 we're told. So interesting. Now, then we come to Jeffrey Dahmer. 1482 01:50:36,239 --> 01:50:42,600 Jeffrey Dahmer gets the connection. He has the weird connections 1483 01:50:42,640 --> 01:50:46,560 to high level GOP people when he's young. So his 1484 01:50:46,640 --> 01:50:50,760 senior class trip, Jeffrey Dahmer was somehow able to make 1485 01:50:50,800 --> 01:50:53,479 a call on a payphone and he gets his entire 1486 01:50:53,560 --> 01:51:00,840 senior class, a VIP tour of Walter Mondale's office and 1487 01:51:00,920 --> 01:51:06,840 a visit by prominent writer Art Buchwald. How would this 1488 01:51:07,159 --> 01:51:13,800 aspiring young GOP serial killer boy have such impressive, impressive 1489 01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:19,000 contacts in Washington has never been explained. And here we 1490 01:51:19,039 --> 01:51:21,880 come again with the gay bars and the gay guys 1491 01:51:21,920 --> 01:51:26,920 and the necrophilia. And there are stories, at least there's 1492 01:51:27,079 --> 01:51:32,159 reports of Dahmer was possessed and people thought he had 1493 01:51:32,600 --> 01:51:34,840 he was actually possessed, and that he had these alternate 1494 01:51:34,880 --> 01:51:38,119 personas and he would watch movies like Actresses to Over 1495 01:51:38,119 --> 01:51:40,039 and whatever, and he would like rock back and forth 1496 01:51:40,119 --> 01:51:45,840 watching them, and he was into eating the dead. And 1497 01:51:45,960 --> 01:51:48,439 the only thing that the media had a tendency to 1498 01:51:48,479 --> 01:51:52,520 talk about was a dabbling in Satanism, but Dave says 1499 01:51:52,560 --> 01:51:56,560 that it was more than a dabbling, but they just 1500 01:51:56,600 --> 01:52:05,319 covered this up. And next character, Herb Baumeister, another young 1501 01:52:05,600 --> 01:52:15,119 GOP Navy connected kid, has all the same ritual abuse 1502 01:52:15,880 --> 01:52:21,640 case of connections to you know, military programs of killers 1503 01:52:21,680 --> 01:52:25,960 and so forth. And so the thesis again, we see 1504 01:52:26,000 --> 01:52:28,359 the patterns that are here there should be pretty obvious. 1505 01:52:28,359 --> 01:52:30,560 But I guess if you're you know, if your mainstream 1506 01:52:30,600 --> 01:52:32,279 media and you don't know any of this stuff, and 1507 01:52:32,319 --> 01:52:34,720 you think that there's no such thing as alters in 1508 01:52:34,800 --> 01:52:39,000 d ID and MPD, and if you don't believe in evil, 1509 01:52:39,399 --> 01:52:44,199 then you're going to be already preconditioned to not think 1510 01:52:44,239 --> 01:52:47,399 that the stuff is real. And what you do, except 1511 01:52:47,479 --> 01:52:49,720 is reel, is going to be conditioned by what you've 1512 01:52:49,760 --> 01:52:52,920 seen in pop culture in the movies, which what happens 1513 01:52:52,920 --> 01:52:54,680 in the movies is that they'll take some of the 1514 01:52:54,720 --> 01:52:58,640 real stuff and then they'll like focus and draw the 1515 01:52:58,680 --> 01:53:01,960 attention over to away from the occult stuff at times 1516 01:53:02,000 --> 01:53:06,039 to just the lone crazy guy, or they don't raise 1517 01:53:06,119 --> 01:53:12,560 the questions about connections to you know, high up level officials. This, 1518 01:53:12,640 --> 01:53:16,359 by the way, was explained excuse me was detailed in 1519 01:53:18,079 --> 01:53:24,760 the first season of True Detective, where they this weird 1520 01:53:24,760 --> 01:53:29,439 a redneck inbred family or cousins of the family. They 1521 01:53:29,479 --> 01:53:33,760 take the hit, the fall, and meanwhile the you know, 1522 01:53:34,399 --> 01:53:38,560 very wealthy, well connected sech goes don't get in trouble. 1523 01:53:38,640 --> 01:53:41,119 That's mentioned at the end of season one of True Detective, 1524 01:53:41,159 --> 01:53:47,279 which I do recommend, by the way, Now, the profilers 1525 01:53:47,279 --> 01:53:52,880 and the patsies. In this concluding section, Dave makes the 1526 01:53:52,960 --> 01:53:57,720 argument that, look, this was basically a lot of funding ror. 1527 01:53:57,800 --> 01:54:01,520 The whole serial killer phenomenon was great for Hollywood box 1528 01:54:01,600 --> 01:54:06,319 office sales, book sales, It was the source of a 1529 01:54:06,319 --> 01:54:11,520 lot of police bureau you know, getting funding, f FBIO 1530 01:54:11,520 --> 01:54:17,560 getting funding. And really what it was was a larger 1531 01:54:19,159 --> 01:54:25,000 psychological warfare operations. And it's perfectly mirrored in Phoenix program, 1532 01:54:26,039 --> 01:54:32,800 the death Squads. And it serves the private prison industrial complex, 1533 01:54:32,920 --> 01:54:36,760 which makes sense because a lot of the military contractors, 1534 01:54:36,800 --> 01:54:39,000 you know, they maybe they go from military then they 1535 01:54:39,039 --> 01:54:43,239 go into private prison security work, and so you know, 1536 01:54:43,279 --> 01:54:45,199 obviously you're gonna have a lot of corrupt, sicko people 1537 01:54:45,279 --> 01:54:48,439 in there, and that makes perfect sense. And the whole 1538 01:54:48,439 --> 01:54:53,760 idea of profiling this whole so called science which doesn't 1539 01:54:53,840 --> 01:54:57,079 really make sense, it's not very consistent. According to Dave, McGowan. 1540 01:54:57,119 --> 01:54:59,079 I'm not saying that there's not profiling. There is. There 1541 01:54:59,079 --> 01:55:04,640 are profile else to killers, but the the FBI bureau, 1542 01:55:04,800 --> 01:55:07,840 right that's set up Bureau of Scientific Bureau or I'm 1543 01:55:07,840 --> 01:55:09,439 trying to remember the name of it, but there's some 1544 01:55:10,279 --> 01:55:14,039 Behavioral Science Unit BSUs that's set up as a result 1545 01:55:14,039 --> 01:55:18,159 of this. You know, it doesn't have the best record, 1546 01:55:18,359 --> 01:55:23,520 according to to Dave and I'm gonna pass over the 1547 01:55:23,960 --> 01:55:26,159 John man A Ramsey section. I did read that, but 1548 01:55:27,319 --> 01:55:29,760 you have to that was just so weird. I don't 1549 01:55:29,800 --> 01:55:31,920 know what to make of it. Sounds like it looks 1550 01:55:31,960 --> 01:55:35,279 like it's probably some kind of elite pedo sex ring. 1551 01:55:36,920 --> 01:55:39,800 You can read that make your own judgment there. Sean 1552 01:55:39,880 --> 01:55:43,039 Helton also has a lengthy analysis I believe that he 1553 01:55:43,079 --> 01:55:46,079 wrote at twenty first Century Wire covering the John Maine 1554 01:55:46,239 --> 01:55:51,720 Ramsey case and again, what do we see Satanan ritual 1555 01:55:51,720 --> 01:55:57,239 abuse covered up. One guy I want to mention at 1556 01:55:57,279 --> 01:56:04,439 the end, who's curious is the character of Jean Bodel Bocasa, 1557 01:56:04,760 --> 01:56:11,640 who is apparently was apparently the puppet of French intelligence 1558 01:56:12,840 --> 01:56:15,840 in Central Africa, and he set up the Central African 1559 01:56:15,840 --> 01:56:20,880 Republic and he declared himself emperor and you should go 1560 01:56:20,920 --> 01:56:23,199 watch that. I watched two or three documentaries on this 1561 01:56:23,239 --> 01:56:27,520 guy who is just so ridiculous. He was a cannibal, 1562 01:56:27,960 --> 01:56:33,199 which is interesting. The Bocasa would have these lavish parties 1563 01:56:33,239 --> 01:56:36,199 in the palace and they would eat people. He would 1564 01:56:36,199 --> 01:56:42,159 eat his enemies and people that he conquered, and reportedly 1565 01:56:42,199 --> 01:56:48,800 when he went to Libya he fled when his empire collapsed, 1566 01:56:49,159 --> 01:56:54,800 he fled to Libya and they still had eating people parties, 1567 01:56:54,800 --> 01:56:59,680 cannibal parties there. So you get into the realm of 1568 01:56:59,800 --> 01:57:04,520 the billionaires, okay, and the so called elite, and they're 1569 01:57:04,560 --> 01:57:08,920 into this really sick stuff. And there are billionaires. They 1570 01:57:08,920 --> 01:57:11,720 do exist, and they do like six stuff. And I 1571 01:57:11,760 --> 01:57:15,359 wouldn't be surprised after reading Dave's book if it's not 1572 01:57:15,439 --> 01:57:20,159 really like hostile, if it's not really like Loan survivor 1573 01:57:20,159 --> 01:57:23,159 whatever that remember that movie with Iced Tea, you know, 1574 01:57:23,199 --> 01:57:25,760 where they get people and they hunt them from the nineties, 1575 01:57:26,079 --> 01:57:30,479 something like that. I think maybe him and Gary Busey 1576 01:57:30,560 --> 01:57:33,880 or somebody crazy, you know. That's what we're looking at 1577 01:57:33,880 --> 01:57:39,640 here is elite depravity, something that we've elite degenerously deviance, 1578 01:57:39,840 --> 01:57:42,039 something that we've talked about a lot at Jason Elysis. 1579 01:57:42,039 --> 01:57:44,960 And why why do we talk about that, Well, because 1580 01:57:44,960 --> 01:57:49,760 it shows the abusiveness of the system and the establishment 1581 01:57:49,800 --> 01:57:52,399 that the people at the tip top tend to be 1582 01:57:52,960 --> 01:57:56,479 bad guys. They're not there to help you or protect 1583 01:57:56,520 --> 01:57:59,439 you or save you. Now, does that mean that that's 1584 01:57:59,439 --> 01:58:02,199 because of highierarchy itself. I don't think so. The problem 1585 01:58:02,239 --> 01:58:07,199 is a hierarchy. The problem is human pravity. The problem 1586 01:58:07,279 --> 01:58:11,840 is humans are fallen and the reality of evil and 1587 01:58:11,880 --> 01:58:15,000 the reality of spiritual evil. This is my conclusion on 1588 01:58:15,039 --> 01:58:18,520 all this. It points us back to God, It points 1589 01:58:18,600 --> 01:58:21,960 us back to the Bible. The world that the Bible presents, 1590 01:58:22,199 --> 01:58:24,880 you know, is a world where demons are real, angels 1591 01:58:24,880 --> 01:58:31,199 are real, spirits are real. They influence our world, our reality, 1592 01:58:32,319 --> 01:58:38,439 and there is good and evil. And the modern world says, 1593 01:58:38,600 --> 01:58:41,800 all that's stupid, that doesn't exist, haha. And then here 1594 01:58:41,800 --> 01:58:46,600 we are confronted with the reality of evil and these 1595 01:58:46,680 --> 01:58:50,560 kinds of cases of you know, organ trade and cults 1596 01:58:50,680 --> 01:58:54,520 and human sacrifice of war and all this stuff, and 1597 01:58:55,159 --> 01:59:00,920 the response is either denial or the lame, anthetic, empty 1598 01:59:00,920 --> 01:59:04,920 attempt to try to explain it all through psychiatric problems 1599 01:59:04,960 --> 01:59:08,479 and throwing chemicals at it. But you're never going to 1600 01:59:08,560 --> 01:59:12,199 solve a spiritual problem in human beings with chemicals. And 1601 01:59:12,199 --> 01:59:16,760 that's why all the you know, pharmaceutical stuff doesn't work. 1602 01:59:17,119 --> 01:59:20,239 It might work in a sense to maybe put people 1603 01:59:20,279 --> 01:59:23,359 in a day used catatonic state or something to where 1604 01:59:23,359 --> 01:59:27,399 they're not able to go nuts because they're so drugged, 1605 01:59:27,520 --> 01:59:30,079 but it doesn't solve the problem, right, It just treats 1606 01:59:30,119 --> 01:59:38,560 the symptoms. The symptoms are of man's wickedness and depravity 1607 01:59:38,760 --> 01:59:46,039 is that he is fallen. Right. The source of the 1608 01:59:46,079 --> 01:59:49,560 problem I'm saying is that he's fallen and the outwork 1609 01:59:49,680 --> 01:59:53,039 these evil acts are outworkings of that. And when they 1610 01:59:53,079 --> 01:59:58,960 manifest in these very extreme cases of depravity, you know, 1611 01:59:59,000 --> 02:00:02,000 it really is just show showing us the reality of 1612 02:00:02,119 --> 02:00:07,560 spiritual evil. But any society that can't recognize spiritual evil, 1613 02:00:09,079 --> 02:00:11,560 and I would say that that's societies that are you know, 1614 02:00:11,720 --> 02:00:16,079 the reason that we have so many material blessings in 1615 02:00:16,119 --> 02:00:19,920 the West that we feel like all that stuff doesn't 1616 02:00:19,920 --> 02:00:23,199 exist anymore. Right, That was the ancient world, medieval world 1617 02:00:23,239 --> 02:00:27,720 had all these superstitions, and then here we are faced 1618 02:00:27,760 --> 02:00:32,600 with real sickos and people say, oh, well, it's just 1619 02:00:32,680 --> 02:00:35,319 all fake. These idiots on the line that claim it's 1620 02:00:35,319 --> 02:00:39,319 all fake. It's not all fake. There's real evil in 1621 02:00:39,359 --> 02:00:45,119 the world, real spiritual evil. And again why why why 1622 02:00:45,159 --> 02:00:48,399 is there all the denial? Well, because the admission of 1623 02:00:48,399 --> 02:00:50,840 it would lead back to the conception of God. Right, 1624 02:00:51,359 --> 02:00:55,720 If there's spiritual evil that's admitted to exist, then well 1625 02:00:55,760 --> 02:00:57,560 then there's probably a God too, and that's what no 1626 02:00:57,640 --> 02:01:01,800 one in the modern world can admit or stand to admit. 1627 02:01:02,159 --> 02:01:05,800 So Program to Kill The Politics of Serial Murder highly 1628 02:01:05,840 --> 02:01:11,399 recommended book. I would say that ninety percent good. A 1629 02:01:11,439 --> 02:01:15,479 couple criticisms of the book. Dave doesn't go into female 1630 02:01:15,560 --> 02:01:20,000 serial killers. There are plenty of those you can go 1631 02:01:20,680 --> 02:01:22,920 I've looked this up, by the way online the profile 1632 02:01:23,039 --> 02:01:27,199 quote profiles or the cases of female serial killers. There 1633 02:01:27,279 --> 02:01:33,359 was that one movie with Charlie the Rohm playing playing 1634 02:01:33,359 --> 02:01:36,399 that one crazy bitch I forget her name. But there's 1635 02:01:36,439 --> 02:01:39,359 also black guys that were serial killers. He does mention 1636 02:01:39,600 --> 02:01:47,119 the Atlanta the Atlanta kidnapper killer guy Wayne Wayne Williams. 1637 02:01:47,239 --> 02:01:50,199 I think it is his name, So that's a black guy. 1638 02:01:50,199 --> 02:01:52,079 But what in other words, what I'm getting at is that 1639 02:01:52,119 --> 02:01:54,279 we have this impression that, oh, the serial killers are 1640 02:01:54,319 --> 02:01:59,359 all these middle aged, creepy white guys. That is not true. Now, 1641 02:01:59,399 --> 02:02:02,560 a lot of these these serial killer guys have tended 1642 02:02:02,560 --> 02:02:07,600 to be the middle aged white guy because a lot 1643 02:02:07,600 --> 02:02:10,680 of guys who would have gone into the special ops 1644 02:02:10,680 --> 02:02:16,039 Phoenix program type stuff were probably more intelligent, you know, 1645 02:02:16,159 --> 02:02:19,720 trained in special forces type stuff. Right. So I mean, 1646 02:02:19,760 --> 02:02:22,239 you can't just you can't just be a brute right 1647 02:02:22,359 --> 02:02:24,199 and get into special forces. You also have to have 1648 02:02:24,239 --> 02:02:26,319 like a certain level i Q and so forth. So 1649 02:02:26,359 --> 02:02:31,279 that would exclude a lot of minorities. And but but 1650 02:02:31,960 --> 02:02:37,159 when we just consider the brutality of serial raping, murder, torture, 1651 02:02:37,760 --> 02:02:41,359 there are plenty of cases of minorities involved in that, 1652 02:02:41,399 --> 02:02:46,640 including Hispanics, including blacks, including women, including Asians too. By 1653 02:02:46,640 --> 02:02:50,239 the way, so this is not a racial issue I'm saying, 1654 02:02:50,600 --> 02:02:52,840 but I'm but what's funny is that if you go 1655 02:02:52,920 --> 02:02:55,520 to look I was doing this a year ago, when 1656 02:02:55,560 --> 02:02:57,600 I was researching some of this, I went to Psychology 1657 02:02:57,720 --> 02:03:01,159 magazine and when you look at what's psychologist pop thing 1658 02:03:01,319 --> 02:03:04,640 right that talks about serial killers, they literally tell you 1659 02:03:04,680 --> 02:03:09,239 that it's all white males. I'm sorry, but there are, 1660 02:03:10,000 --> 02:03:13,720 for example, there are women who've had multiple abortions. I 1661 02:03:13,760 --> 02:03:18,119 would count that as a serial killing, right, based on 1662 02:03:18,159 --> 02:03:22,840 my worldview. But no, that's not taken into account when 1663 02:03:24,159 --> 02:03:29,279 politically correct Psychology Today magazine says that serial killers all 1664 02:03:29,279 --> 02:03:33,039 white dudes, middle aged white dudes. No, it's been and 1665 02:03:33,119 --> 02:03:37,800 the problem the issue there is that sin and evil 1666 02:03:37,840 --> 02:03:43,000 are not race specific. All the races, all of the 1667 02:03:43,199 --> 02:03:48,600 tribes of man are prone to temptation and evil. And 1668 02:03:48,800 --> 02:03:51,520 now you might could argue that certain people groups and 1669 02:03:51,640 --> 02:03:55,000 races might be prone to certain evils. You could argue that. 1670 02:03:55,119 --> 02:03:55,279 Speaker 4: But. 1671 02:03:57,199 --> 02:04:01,720 Speaker 1: You know, there are with white dudes in power just 1672 02:04:01,760 --> 02:04:06,000 as much as there are wicked people in Indonesia and Malaysia, 1673 02:04:06,520 --> 02:04:11,439 you know, having weird sex parties. Everybody knows about Singapore 1674 02:04:11,479 --> 02:04:13,720 and Malaysia and all the sex stuff there. I mean, 1675 02:04:13,760 --> 02:04:16,920 it's just really gross, sick stuff, right, and this goes 1676 02:04:16,920 --> 02:04:22,039 on everywhere. I know a girl who was involved in 1677 02:04:23,039 --> 02:04:31,279 djaying for very large techno parties in Japan, and I 1678 02:04:31,319 --> 02:04:33,520 believe her when she says this, But she talked about 1679 02:04:33,520 --> 02:04:36,119 some of the stuff that the Japanese rich guys were 1680 02:04:36,119 --> 02:04:39,039 into and it's I'm not going to repeat it because 1681 02:04:39,039 --> 02:04:42,439 it's so gross. Now she didn't say she did this, 1682 02:04:42,640 --> 02:04:47,439 but she you know, she had been to parties where 1683 02:04:47,600 --> 02:04:51,640 really gross stuff went down, which I won't mention it's 1684 02:04:51,680 --> 02:04:54,720 just nasty, but you could you can imagine that. You know, 1685 02:04:54,760 --> 02:04:59,399 I'm talking about millionaire, billionaire guys that are into things 1686 02:04:59,520 --> 02:05:03,439 stuff to do with human feces. Okay, so I mean that, 1687 02:05:03,800 --> 02:05:05,840 and in a way, that's I guess quote as sort 1688 02:05:05,840 --> 02:05:09,039 of tame compared to the idea of actually just killing 1689 02:05:09,039 --> 02:05:13,199 people and you know, murdering them, all of which is disgusting. 1690 02:05:13,239 --> 02:05:16,239 But still this is what we're talking about. So it's 1691 02:05:16,279 --> 02:05:19,880 not hard to believe when you consider, you know what 1692 02:05:19,960 --> 02:05:24,560 other kind of stuff people who you know, they have 1693 02:05:24,600 --> 02:05:28,560 all the money in the world, they don't need, you know, 1694 02:05:28,600 --> 02:05:31,920 that isn't kind of moved to the next sick thing, right, 1695 02:05:32,000 --> 02:05:34,640 It's like the sickest to the sickest. And when you 1696 02:05:34,680 --> 02:05:37,479 look at the art world of the so called elite, 1697 02:05:37,520 --> 02:05:39,720 that's a good window into that world that we're talking 1698 02:05:39,720 --> 02:05:42,359 about here that it's not hard to believe. You know, 1699 02:05:42,399 --> 02:05:45,920 they're into some very gross there's our stuff. So anyway, 1700 02:05:46,079 --> 02:05:49,560 that all to me suggests the reality of the spiritual world. 1701 02:05:50,640 --> 02:05:53,199 And you know, we're we're going to continue to see 1702 02:05:53,239 --> 02:05:56,319 wickedness of this nature, and it will get even worse 1703 02:05:56,359 --> 02:06:01,239 and worse and worse until we realize that there is 1704 02:06:01,279 --> 02:06:07,600 a god in the Bible is real. You know, here's 1705 02:06:07,640 --> 02:06:10,199 this book that actually seems to explain all this very well, 1706 02:06:10,680 --> 02:06:12,560 but nobody wants to believe that. They want to believe, 1707 02:06:12,760 --> 02:06:15,680 you know, ridiculous stupid things. So you've been listening to 1708 02:06:15,760 --> 02:06:19,960 Jay's analysis. Thank you subscribers. You guys are the best 1709 02:06:20,199 --> 02:06:24,640 and I love you guys, and please continue listening and praying, 1710 02:06:24,720 --> 02:06:28,520 and you know, maybe we can bring some sanity to 1711 02:06:28,600 --> 02:07:02,600 an insane world. 1712 02:07:02,880 --> 02:07:08,760 Speaker 4: Nice the once for my course, shout of the socas 1713 02:07:09,279 --> 02:07:14,600 wall I real nice, my bad to see tonight. 1714 02:07:15,039 --> 02:07:26,199 Speaker 1: Your still the dark, my little join dog. You may 1715 02:07:26,720 --> 02:07:32,079 feel there's nothing wrong, my. 1716 02:07:32,279 --> 02:07:33,720 Speaker 2: Little China dog. 1717 02:07:42,159 --> 02:07:47,800 Speaker 3: Help me like a good child. Just pick any back an. 1718 02:07:49,159 --> 02:07:55,079 Speaker 4: Then they so cold, so fast, although they still say, oh. 1719 02:07:57,600 --> 02:08:01,359 Speaker 1: I gone home, Just said sun jail. 1720 02:08:01,479 --> 02:08:07,720 Speaker 5: A walk along and well around tr NiFe so you 1721 02:08:07,960 --> 02:08:11,840 could live in those eyes and shut. 1722 02:08:15,479 --> 02:08:22,000 Speaker 1: My nether j doll. You need feels. 1723 02:08:23,119 --> 02:08:36,359 Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong, my little cha till you need see 1724 02:08:37,840 --> 02:08:41,920 a thing. He says that the dress as time man. 1725 02:09:08,920 --> 02:09:12,800 Speaker 4: About the start that those eyes were. 1726 02:09:15,039 --> 02:09:19,880 Speaker 1: Leaving all with fire other bars in my eyes. 1727 02:09:20,319 --> 02:09:40,920 Speaker 4: You some wishes could have wings. Advice ball to. 1728 02:09:41,119 --> 02:09:47,960 Speaker 2: Babbadie, and then I should see the day you built 1729 02:09:48,159 --> 02:09:48,560 is to. 1730 02:09:49,239 --> 02:09:55,359 Speaker 4: Your eyes and nights all just as inside jail a 1731 02:09:55,560 --> 02:09:58,279 walking long and wear around. 1732 02:09:59,199 --> 02:10:02,439 Speaker 1: I keep th used to take you to swim. 1733 02:10:03,000 --> 02:10:11,560 Speaker 4: But in those guys, I should my little chill. 1734 02:10:13,439 --> 02:10:18,039 Speaker 1: Look at me, feel that it does. Doesn't being wrong 1735 02:10:24,760 --> 02:10:33,439 my level to give me see things like that. Try 1736 02:10:34,159 --> 02:10:50,880 I'll be oh my, my,