WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.560 --> 00:00:19.920 Bad Buddy. Welcome to Gay Mess Mornings with Me Mike Minatti, 2 00:00:19.960 --> 00:00:23.160 your host from giant bomb dot com. Thank you for 3 00:00:23.199 --> 00:00:26.000 tuning in. In this episode, we're gonna be talking about 4 00:00:26.199 --> 00:00:30.239 Perfect Dark being canceled, Hell Divers Too is coming to Xbox, 5 00:00:30.359 --> 00:00:34.439 and they did our boy Romero Dirty. It's gonna be 6 00:00:34.479 --> 00:00:38.960 going because we have Aj Minatti on this show. Aj, 7 00:00:40.159 --> 00:00:43.799 how is it going? Thank you for joining me here. 8 00:00:44.719 --> 00:00:47.880 Yeah, it's uh, it's it's a day, you know, not 9 00:00:47.960 --> 00:00:50.679 too much to talk about, so we'll fill the air somehow, 10 00:00:50.679 --> 00:00:51.520 I guess. 11 00:00:51.520 --> 00:00:53.719 Yeah, yeah, we'll figure it out. Uh, it's okay. You know, 12 00:00:53.759 --> 00:00:56.799 we had we had Kayla on yesterday. So I think 13 00:00:56.799 --> 00:00:58.000 it's just nepotism week. 14 00:00:58.079 --> 00:01:02.159 You're a giant Bomb unstrong, you're at a giant bump. 15 00:01:02.560 --> 00:01:04.079 Yeah, I think. 16 00:01:04.159 --> 00:01:04.359 Yeah. 17 00:01:04.359 --> 00:01:07.359 Having depotism the same week as Fourth of July seems 18 00:01:07.400 --> 00:01:11.120 fitting somehow. Actually, So let me get. 19 00:01:10.959 --> 00:01:12.680 In front of this right now. I did not make 20 00:01:12.719 --> 00:01:15.040 the Dead Dog Pog. That was the other brother. 21 00:01:15.200 --> 00:01:17.640 Oh the other probably did the Dead Dog Pog, which 22 00:01:18.239 --> 00:01:21.879 I hate to say, it has a ring to it. 23 00:01:22.439 --> 00:01:27.079 Terrible thing to say. Yeah, you saw a movie yesterday. 24 00:01:27.319 --> 00:01:29.120 Multiple times, You're like, all right, you're coming to the movie, 25 00:01:29.159 --> 00:01:31.079 and I'm like, no, I gotta work. I gotta admit, 26 00:01:31.159 --> 00:01:33.280 I have no idea what movie you were talking about. 27 00:01:33.280 --> 00:01:35.480 What did you see a Goofy movie? 28 00:01:35.920 --> 00:01:39.040 Oh? It was still that. Yeah, they're playing uh. 29 00:01:40.000 --> 00:01:42.519 Our second theater in town is doing a new classic 30 00:01:42.560 --> 00:01:43.959 every week. So I took the kids to see a 31 00:01:43.959 --> 00:01:46.120 Goofy movie and we had a grand old time. 32 00:01:46.799 --> 00:01:47.400 It still hit. 33 00:01:48.359 --> 00:01:51.079 Oh it hit very hard, very very hard. 34 00:01:51.200 --> 00:01:53.519 Did your whole family see eye to ee on it? 35 00:01:54.640 --> 00:01:58.400 Yes, we did, and we listened to each other's hearts. 36 00:01:59.239 --> 00:02:01.400 All right, that's good. Make a bunch of old movies there. 37 00:02:01.480 --> 00:02:03.359 I have to look at that schedule and figure it out. 38 00:02:03.439 --> 00:02:07.439 It's Independence Day this weekend. Shocking enough, but what people get? 39 00:02:07.439 --> 00:02:09.080 Madmy, I have never seen that movie. 40 00:02:09.520 --> 00:02:12.719 That's right, you haven't. I should. 41 00:02:13.560 --> 00:02:15.759 It was a scary movie because all they kept showing 42 00:02:16.159 --> 00:02:18.879 in the previews was them blowing up the White House, 43 00:02:19.080 --> 00:02:22.400 which now I find actually pretty uplifting, but at the time, 44 00:02:23.039 --> 00:02:28.280 let's terrified. Yeah, it seems like a really scary thing. 45 00:02:28.360 --> 00:02:31.240 So I don't know. I just assumed it was horror. 46 00:02:31.400 --> 00:02:36.240 Independence so I don't Yeah, maybe'll say you know, you 47 00:02:36.280 --> 00:02:40.560 know me, my preferred Fourth of July movie is usually 48 00:02:40.599 --> 00:02:45.520 either National Treasure or seventeen seventy six, the nineteen seventies 49 00:02:45.639 --> 00:02:49.199 musical about the signing of the Declaration of Independence with 50 00:02:49.319 --> 00:02:53.439 that guy from Boy Meet's World as John Adams. Yes, Yeah, 51 00:02:53.479 --> 00:02:56.240 that's the stuff that hits. That's the stuff that really hits. 52 00:02:57.039 --> 00:02:59.280 All right, let's get into things Before we do that, 53 00:02:59.360 --> 00:03:01.680 let's explain our So this is Giant Bomb, a small 54 00:03:01.719 --> 00:03:04.639 team of video game dupe this says, who rely on 55 00:03:04.680 --> 00:03:07.080 your support so that we can make cool stuff. 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That's confirmed, first reported by Windows Central and 74 00:04:11.960 --> 00:04:16.519 corroborated by Bloomberg Report Jacent Schreier. The cancelation of Perfect 75 00:04:16.600 --> 00:04:18.800 Dark and closing in the initiative come as part of 76 00:04:18.879 --> 00:04:22.160 Microsoft's latest round of layoffs, which are affecting an estimated 77 00:04:22.240 --> 00:04:25.319 four percent of the company's workforce. That translates to around 78 00:04:25.399 --> 00:04:28.600 nine thousand people losing their jobs, many of them across 79 00:04:28.839 --> 00:04:32.560 Microsoft's various gaming studios. The initiative was formed at twenty 80 00:04:32.600 --> 00:04:35.560 eighteen and based in Santa Monica. Built as a quadruple 81 00:04:35.600 --> 00:04:38.519 A studio, it was led by Formal Crystal Dynamic Studio 82 00:04:38.560 --> 00:04:42.040 had Daryl Gallagher and made up of developers Respawn, Bio, 83 00:04:42.079 --> 00:04:45.120 Our Naughty, Dugan Moore. Twenty twenty one, the initiative announced 84 00:04:45.199 --> 00:04:47.800 a partner with Crystal Dynamics, developer in the most recent 85 00:04:47.839 --> 00:04:51.199 tomb Rator games, to assist on the Perfect Dark reboot. 86 00:04:51.720 --> 00:04:53.680 Players got their first look at Perfect Dark game play 87 00:04:53.680 --> 00:04:55.600 in twenty twenty four as part of that year's Xbox 88 00:04:55.639 --> 00:05:00.480 Games Showcase, a trailer that I was really excited. I 89 00:05:00.519 --> 00:05:03.959 thought it looked great aj at least for me. This 90 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:07.000 has maybe been the most shocking developments of all these 91 00:05:07.360 --> 00:05:11.920 terrible Xbox layoffs that have been happening since yesterday. Did 92 00:05:11.959 --> 00:05:13.480 this news catch you by surprise? 93 00:05:14.079 --> 00:05:14.279 Oh? 94 00:05:14.319 --> 00:05:17.560 Absolutely, I mean they've been hyping this game out. I'm surprised. Actually, 95 00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:19.560 it's only been since twenty twenty two is announced. It 96 00:05:19.560 --> 00:05:22.120 feels like it's been in the consciousness for a very 97 00:05:22.160 --> 00:05:24.160 long time. Yeah, it was a big part of last 98 00:05:24.240 --> 00:05:27.480 year's showcase. You know, they've been hyping out the initiative 99 00:05:27.519 --> 00:05:30.639 as this again this Quadruple A developer, which, boy, the 100 00:05:30.720 --> 00:05:33.480 Quadruple A games are just really hitting, Mike, aren't they not? 101 00:05:34.879 --> 00:05:38.360 Ves, don't ever call your project quadruple A. It is right? 102 00:05:38.639 --> 00:05:40.079 Is that just poison now? Finally? 103 00:05:40.120 --> 00:05:43.600 Can we stop doing that? But yeah, I mean the 104 00:05:43.639 --> 00:05:46.360 gameplay demo it was strong. There's been a lot of 105 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:51.439 people wondering how genuine that was And there was a 106 00:05:51.759 --> 00:05:54.040 former level designer from the initiative who's now it's to 107 00:05:54.160 --> 00:05:56.360 do MDHR. I'm sorry I didn't write his name down, 108 00:05:56.399 --> 00:05:58.120 but he was one of the people who worked in 109 00:05:58.120 --> 00:06:00.959 that demo. They said it was genuine an engine gameplay. 110 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:03.199 It's just like if you didn't kind of follow the 111 00:06:03.319 --> 00:06:06.639 script it wanted you to, it mostly work. But like 112 00:06:06.839 --> 00:06:08.680 obviously there was like an ideal way to play that 113 00:06:08.800 --> 00:06:10.120 demo for it to look at its best. 114 00:06:10.759 --> 00:06:11.879 Uh So, who knows how. 115 00:06:12.079 --> 00:06:13.720 You know, maybe these reports in the game not coming 116 00:06:13.759 --> 00:06:18.199 together are accurate, but boy, that feels like rampant mismanagement 117 00:06:18.759 --> 00:06:20.480 from every direction, right. 118 00:06:21.279 --> 00:06:24.240 So it's an embarrassment. It's such an embarrassment that I'm 119 00:06:24.240 --> 00:06:27.120 almost surprised they are willing to go through with it. 120 00:06:27.600 --> 00:06:31.079 And uh take that l as it were, because you know, 121 00:06:31.160 --> 00:06:35.120 you you talk this studio up like crazy. You promoted 122 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:37.920 this game a good amount until it was suddenly you know, 123 00:06:38.000 --> 00:06:40.959 it was odd that it was absent from their showcase 124 00:06:41.040 --> 00:06:44.399 just a month ago, but you know they're bringing back 125 00:06:44.439 --> 00:06:46.759 a big ip. You have all these people on you 126 00:06:46.759 --> 00:06:50.639 even have Crystal Dynamics. They're helping and probably not great 127 00:06:50.639 --> 00:06:53.360 news for Crystal Dynamics, which can use the work at 128 00:06:53.360 --> 00:06:58.399 the moment. So yeah, it's it's it's embarrassing. Uh, it's 129 00:06:58.480 --> 00:07:01.120 evil because of you know, the people who are losing 130 00:07:01.279 --> 00:07:05.519 their jobs. It is awful all around. It's a game 131 00:07:05.519 --> 00:07:07.839 that I was looking forward to. Least importantly is that 132 00:07:07.879 --> 00:07:10.720 I wanted to play this video game. Now that's not 133 00:07:10.759 --> 00:07:12.560 going to happen, because it was you know, it looked 134 00:07:12.560 --> 00:07:15.399 like it had some mirrors edge, DNA n it. I 135 00:07:15.519 --> 00:07:20.560 was getting excited about that just a Really it's it's 136 00:07:21.399 --> 00:07:24.480 if the decision happened because they thought they couldn't salvage 137 00:07:24.519 --> 00:07:27.759 the game. The shape on them for letting it get there. 138 00:07:29.279 --> 00:07:32.839 For sure, you know you again, the game already had 139 00:07:32.879 --> 00:07:35.360 all this baggage with the whole quadruple. I think like, like, 140 00:07:35.399 --> 00:07:38.519 there's this expectation it's got to be this big, bombastic 141 00:07:38.600 --> 00:07:41.480 thing that's going to carry the platform, and even that, 142 00:07:41.639 --> 00:07:44.399 like you know, since this game was announced, the idea 143 00:07:44.519 --> 00:07:48.839 of the Xbox platform is radically shifted, so like it's 144 00:07:48.879 --> 00:07:50.319 just like what are we what are we doing here? 145 00:07:50.399 --> 00:07:52.439 Like like everyone says like, oh, Xbox doesn't have an 146 00:07:52.480 --> 00:07:55.399 identity anymore. And then they they released a string of 147 00:07:55.399 --> 00:07:57.000 really good games in the beginning this year, we're like, Okay, 148 00:07:57.160 --> 00:07:58.959 they're finding a groove, and like it feels like every 149 00:07:59.000 --> 00:08:01.720 time that happens with x every time things seem like 150 00:08:01.720 --> 00:08:04.920 they're fixing themselves, the rug gets pulled out from under 151 00:08:04.920 --> 00:08:06.959 the whole thing with something like this, Whereas it's like, 152 00:08:07.040 --> 00:08:10.480 it doesn't feel good to be an Xbox fan right now. 153 00:08:10.399 --> 00:08:14.319 Right No, I kind of almost can't imagine it, you're 154 00:08:14.560 --> 00:08:17.360 cause I think people were just getting used to Okay, 155 00:08:17.519 --> 00:08:21.079 no more exclusives, that's all right, and going board with that. 156 00:08:21.240 --> 00:08:24.480 They actually had a pretty good showcase last month, despite 157 00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:27.319 some honest with the absence of Perfect Dark and other 158 00:08:27.360 --> 00:08:31.680 projects like Fable. We didn't hear anything really much about 159 00:08:31.720 --> 00:08:36.240 that game or its studios, so presumably they're fine. But yeah, 160 00:08:36.360 --> 00:08:41.480 Xbox is just in a stuper strange place. Nobody feels 161 00:08:41.480 --> 00:08:45.720 good about them right now now. You know, I almost 162 00:08:45.720 --> 00:08:48.039 hate saying it, Like they can recover from that they 163 00:08:48.120 --> 00:08:50.639 kind of have before. Maybe this is going to be 164 00:08:50.679 --> 00:08:53.960 the straw that breaks the camel's back for a lot 165 00:08:54.000 --> 00:08:58.120 of people. I'm almost like cynically skeptical of that, like 166 00:08:58.200 --> 00:08:59.919 they can bounce back. I don't know if they deserve 167 00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:04.799 to bounce back, but they can. One more thing here 168 00:09:04.840 --> 00:09:07.279 to report from shortly before the debut of Perfect Or 169 00:09:07.360 --> 00:09:09.799 Escape Bay Trailer, saying that the reboot of the spy 170 00:09:09.879 --> 00:09:12.679 Ps was in bad shape, that the project hadn't really 171 00:09:12.679 --> 00:09:16.120 come together despite Crystal Dynamics being brought in to help development. 172 00:09:17.080 --> 00:09:19.679 The report that Game Spots referring to here was from 173 00:09:19.720 --> 00:09:23.759 Jeff Grubb. I remember at the time many people were 174 00:09:23.840 --> 00:09:26.919 very mad at him or said he was he was 175 00:09:26.960 --> 00:09:31.840 wrong about that. Jeff is usually not the person going 176 00:09:31.879 --> 00:09:34.799 to do this thing, But uh, I will you all 177 00:09:34.840 --> 00:09:37.679 need to stop doubting my boy Grub. He is just 178 00:09:37.799 --> 00:09:41.759 about always right all the things it's about, always right. 179 00:09:42.600 --> 00:09:45.440 So uh, you know, nobody's going to ecrow on that, 180 00:09:45.480 --> 00:09:47.600 and you know obviously not. I don't want me to 181 00:09:47.639 --> 00:09:50.200 do what I told you so thinking about something so terrible, 182 00:09:50.759 --> 00:09:54.320 but yeah, stop uh stop yelling at Jeff for being right. 183 00:09:55.480 --> 00:09:56.519 Yeah all right. 184 00:09:56.720 --> 00:10:00.039 Below next up here is Banjo KAZOOI see of the 185 00:10:00.360 --> 00:10:04.080 director leaves Rare after thirty five years following the Everwild cancelation. 186 00:10:04.159 --> 00:10:09.000 This is by Andy Robinson at VGC. Greg Males, Rare's 187 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:13.039 most experienced and influential game designer will leave the company 188 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:15.720 after more than thirty five years, sources have told VGC. 189 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:18.519 According to multiple people at the studio who spoke to 190 00:10:18.600 --> 00:10:22.720 VGC anonymously, Males will leave Rare following news of Everwild's 191 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:26.200 cancelation on Wednesday. The designer had been directing the project 192 00:10:26.279 --> 00:10:29.399 since the team was restructured in twenty twenty one. Coin 193 00:10:29.480 --> 00:10:33.320 to the sources, executive producer Louis O'Connor, another Rare veteran 194 00:10:33.480 --> 00:10:36.159 whose first project was Congress bat Furday for An ten 195 00:10:36.279 --> 00:10:40.679 sixty four, also leave the company following Everwild's cancelation. Males 196 00:10:40.759 --> 00:10:43.279 was one of Rare's earliest design hires, with this first 197 00:10:43.279 --> 00:10:51.600 credited game, Solar Jetman, releasing in nineteen ninety. Everwild was 198 00:10:51.600 --> 00:10:54.279 a perhaps a predictable casualty. 199 00:10:53.720 --> 00:10:56.879 From all I'd surprised, but it's. 200 00:10:56.720 --> 00:10:59.720 Still like, what are we doing here? How are we 201 00:10:59.799 --> 00:11:03.480 not you know, helping get these things together or at 202 00:11:03.559 --> 00:11:09.600 least finding something else to do for a respected important 203 00:11:09.679 --> 00:11:13.039 veteran like reg Males, to keep them happy or keep 204 00:11:13.080 --> 00:11:17.440 them with the company again. Thirty five years, you know, 205 00:11:17.879 --> 00:11:21.279 you know, worked on all these important games, including you know, 206 00:11:21.360 --> 00:11:27.000 Banjo KAZUOI, an ip that everybody. You know, maybe they 207 00:11:27.000 --> 00:11:29.759 have market research we don't have. That's like, actually nobody 208 00:11:29.759 --> 00:11:32.320 would does care about Benja Kazuoi. It's for me, it 209 00:11:32.360 --> 00:11:34.919 seems like people would care about that. If people popped 210 00:11:34.919 --> 00:11:37.240 off for remakes of crash Bit, it couldn't in Spiral. 211 00:11:37.360 --> 00:11:40.240 I think they would pop off for Banjo Kazuoi, so 212 00:11:40.279 --> 00:11:43.720 we could at least do something over there. Are you 213 00:11:43.759 --> 00:11:44.600 worried about Rare? 214 00:11:46.720 --> 00:11:48.000 I'm not worried about Rare itself. 215 00:11:48.039 --> 00:11:50.600 I think C A Thieves is still kind of sustainable, 216 00:11:50.840 --> 00:11:53.440 and I don't know what else they have cooking there. 217 00:11:53.480 --> 00:11:55.240 I don't think like Rare is gonna go away, but 218 00:11:55.279 --> 00:11:58.960 it's not great for their future prospect of making like 219 00:11:58.960 --> 00:12:01.399 a big new game. I guess, you know, and you know, 220 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:03.360 maybe they live in that double Find space, so they're 221 00:12:03.360 --> 00:12:06.600 making like these smaller double A kind of games. I 222 00:12:06.600 --> 00:12:09.799 think that's fine. It's just again, it seems like every 223 00:12:09.799 --> 00:12:13.600 time this has with Microsoft, the the excuse they kind 224 00:12:13.639 --> 00:12:16.600 of give sometimes is, you know, we were two hands 225 00:12:16.679 --> 00:12:18.600 off and we need to be more involved with these studios, 226 00:12:18.600 --> 00:12:21.840 but like they never seem to actually do that. Like again, 227 00:12:21.960 --> 00:12:24.159 it's like ever while didn't come together because the studio 228 00:12:24.200 --> 00:12:27.039 was two hands off and Perfect Dark wasn't coming together 229 00:12:27.159 --> 00:12:29.200 because we were leaving the initiative alone. Like I don't know, 230 00:12:29.240 --> 00:12:32.360 get in there, like support these studios they're not getting 231 00:12:32.360 --> 00:12:36.000 support clearly like that that is I think abundantly clear 232 00:12:36.039 --> 00:12:38.360 from all this. You know, I don't think it's your rundown. 233 00:12:38.399 --> 00:12:42.840 But like a Max Online also had staff reductions and 234 00:12:42.879 --> 00:12:45.840 a in development NML get canceled, which apparently, from the 235 00:12:46.039 --> 00:12:49.320 reporting I saw in the leaks, was actually coming together 236 00:12:49.440 --> 00:12:54.000 very well. So why is that gone? It's just I 237 00:12:54.039 --> 00:12:56.720 don't get it. It's just it's frustrating because it is 238 00:12:56.759 --> 00:13:00.279 such blatant mismanagement issues. It doesn't sound like any of 239 00:13:00.320 --> 00:13:03.639 these games were where the faults of the people making them, 240 00:13:04.120 --> 00:13:06.080 but they're the ones suffering the consequence. 241 00:13:06.879 --> 00:13:10.080 That's about Zen Max. We talked about a little bit yesterday, 242 00:13:10.279 --> 00:13:12.559 I think. But yeah, they had an MMO apparently it's 243 00:13:12.559 --> 00:13:15.759 going to be something more sci fi E and that 244 00:13:15.799 --> 00:13:16.759 got canceled. 245 00:13:16.840 --> 00:13:17.000 Uh. 246 00:13:17.480 --> 00:13:19.039 You know, some people were saying that the game was 247 00:13:19.120 --> 00:13:21.879 uh looking like it's gonna be something special. We will 248 00:13:22.240 --> 00:13:24.159 never know. And again, I just don't know how much 249 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:26.480 more O juice there is there. I think I may 250 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:28.320 be a little bit more worry than you are, maybe 251 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:32.279 just pessimistic with everything. But yeah, I see if he's 252 00:13:32.279 --> 00:13:34.159 probably has some juice for a while. I don't know 253 00:13:34.159 --> 00:13:37.679 if it has forever juice, like a world of nothing. 254 00:13:38.039 --> 00:13:40.679 I think I think they'll have something come out. It's 255 00:13:40.720 --> 00:13:45.039 not going to be as big as you know, even 256 00:13:45.080 --> 00:13:47.120 even a band of Kazooi might be too big at 257 00:13:47.120 --> 00:13:48.840 this point, but I think they'll have another Sea of 258 00:13:48.919 --> 00:13:50.480 Thieves esque thing to happen. 259 00:13:51.240 --> 00:13:54.720 I mean, yeah, I hope so, because you know, closing 260 00:13:54.720 --> 00:13:59.879 down the initiative is one thing. Uh, if Xbox really 261 00:13:59.840 --> 00:14:03.120 wants to lose any goodwill that they could possibly have left, 262 00:14:03.159 --> 00:14:08.720 I dare you shut down Rare? Because holy crap, would 263 00:14:08.720 --> 00:14:13.279 that be a terrible thing and a terrible look. Right, 264 00:14:13.320 --> 00:14:16.519 And we talked about EA just closing down Beloved Studios. 265 00:14:17.200 --> 00:14:20.039 If you somehow bungle Rare and have to just close 266 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:24.919 that thing down, you are going to be rightfully and 267 00:14:25.440 --> 00:14:31.840 heavily disliked. Yeah, yeah, no, good, all right. John Romero's 268 00:14:31.879 --> 00:14:35.159 next FPS has lost funding in the wake of Microsoft cuts. 269 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:38.720 This is from Jordan Miller VGC. Romero Games has announced 270 00:14:38.759 --> 00:14:41.320 that its next unannounced project has lost funding, with a 271 00:14:41.480 --> 00:14:43.919 now extra Marrow Games of Play, claiming it was due 272 00:14:43.919 --> 00:14:47.639 to this week's Microsoft cuts. A statement from Brenda Romero 273 00:14:48.039 --> 00:14:50.759 Studio announced that last night we learned that our publisher 274 00:14:50.960 --> 00:14:53.320 has canceled Funny from our game, along with several other 275 00:14:53.399 --> 00:14:57.120 unannounced projects at other studios. This was a strategic decision 276 00:14:57.159 --> 00:14:59.840 made at a high level within the publisher, well above 277 00:14:59.879 --> 00:15:03.000 our our visibility or control. We deeply wish there had 278 00:15:03.039 --> 00:15:05.200 been something, anything, we could have done to prevent this 279 00:15:05.320 --> 00:15:08.960 outcome of Romero Games. Employee has claimed the whole studios 280 00:15:09.039 --> 00:15:12.720 being what goes result of Microsoft cuts, with many advertising 281 00:15:12.720 --> 00:15:16.000 on link in LinkedIn that they've lost their jobs. Romeo 282 00:15:16.039 --> 00:15:18.639 Games is based in Galway, Ireland. The team, which included 283 00:15:18.679 --> 00:15:22.240 over seventy five developers in twenty twenty four, hadn't fully 284 00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:24.759 revealed his next project beyond the fact that it was 285 00:15:24.799 --> 00:15:30.240 a first person shooter made an Unreal Engine five. I know, 286 00:15:30.279 --> 00:15:35.080 we have our fun with Romero around here, with Dakatanadka Grebba, 287 00:15:35.200 --> 00:15:38.919 whatever the heck we were calling that, But I you know, 288 00:15:39.039 --> 00:15:42.519 this is just another pretty massive hits. This is a 289 00:15:42.519 --> 00:15:46.200 lot of people suddenly out of work, and you know, 290 00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:50.159 I find it unsettling in a lot of ways, like yeah, 291 00:15:50.320 --> 00:15:55.200 Daikatana hahaha. But John Romero made Doom right, just like 292 00:15:55.240 --> 00:15:58.960 one of the most important game designers ever. Here's somebody 293 00:15:58.960 --> 00:16:01.679 who just can't get this next game made or can't 294 00:16:01.720 --> 00:16:05.159 get a studio to work. I would have liked to 295 00:16:05.200 --> 00:16:08.879 see what a quote unquote modern John Romero FPS looked 296 00:16:08.879 --> 00:16:10.159 like it was going to be something more. 297 00:16:10.200 --> 00:16:15.279 So it's so marketable the olds. 298 00:16:14.879 --> 00:16:16.879 Like us, but you know you could do something with that. 299 00:16:17.720 --> 00:16:22.799 Yeah, absolutely, you can't. Like again, it's it's it's just 300 00:16:23.720 --> 00:16:25.399 what do they want us to feel right now? 301 00:16:25.440 --> 00:16:28.159 And here's the issue. I'll get into this real quick. 302 00:16:29.000 --> 00:16:32.440 Microsoft is a company, Microsoft the capital and above Xbox 303 00:16:32.559 --> 00:16:34.960 decided that rather than sell video games to people like 304 00:16:35.080 --> 00:16:38.440 us to make millions, they're funneling this money into AI developments. 305 00:16:38.480 --> 00:16:40.759 They could sell it to other companies and make billions. 306 00:16:40.840 --> 00:16:42.720 Like That's really what this is about. 307 00:16:44.039 --> 00:16:45.840 That's the strategic shift happening here. 308 00:16:45.879 --> 00:16:48.360 Great, yes, and so as much as like we're upset, 309 00:16:48.399 --> 00:16:52.039 they don't care like we're like again Phil's statement that 310 00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:54.320 he put out about oh, we're actually in great shape 311 00:16:54.320 --> 00:16:56.840 and making all these games, and this is that's not 312 00:16:56.919 --> 00:16:58.360 for us, that's for investors. 313 00:16:59.320 --> 00:16:59.960 It doesn't matter. 314 00:17:00.720 --> 00:17:03.320 You know, if they sell a few fewer video games, 315 00:17:03.360 --> 00:17:07.079 but they sell a SHINE contract to health insurer to 316 00:17:07.200 --> 00:17:10.480 use AI to process claims, they're gonna make millions of dollars. 317 00:17:10.799 --> 00:17:12.160 That's what this is about. 318 00:17:13.400 --> 00:17:16.920 To imagine that whatever Romero Games was working on with 319 00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:19.839 seventy five developers, I bet it was going to be 320 00:17:20.480 --> 00:17:25.319 a mid sized kind of you know, classic shooter experience thing. 321 00:17:25.880 --> 00:17:28.440 I can't imagine it was going to be the most 322 00:17:28.480 --> 00:17:32.480 expensive thing in the world. This is a company that 323 00:17:32.680 --> 00:17:41.440 is literally worth brillions, brillions of dollars. It is disgusting 324 00:17:41.599 --> 00:17:46.359 and im moral how much money this one company has. 325 00:17:46.839 --> 00:17:50.200 You know, they went around, they went acquiring all these 326 00:17:50.200 --> 00:17:53.359 people and making all these deals. That's the other thing, too, right, 327 00:17:53.359 --> 00:17:55.839 because when we were there doing that, the big concern, 328 00:17:56.039 --> 00:17:57.680 I'm sure there are other people saying, oh, they might 329 00:17:57.720 --> 00:18:00.680 just shut everything down if they pivot. But you know, 330 00:18:00.720 --> 00:18:03.720 everyone's like, oh, no, they're gonna have a monopoly, right, 331 00:18:04.920 --> 00:18:07.440 Like we thought that because they're going to bring in 332 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:10.160 all this money from Call of Duty and king and. 333 00:18:10.079 --> 00:18:11.640 Now insteady for everything. 334 00:18:12.079 --> 00:18:13.799 Well, yeah, it's like they got all that money and 335 00:18:13.799 --> 00:18:16.480 when they're cutting jobs at King and they're cutting jobs 336 00:18:16.480 --> 00:18:18.559 at Raven who works on call of. 337 00:18:18.640 --> 00:18:21.759 Duty, right, like what we're doing? So what was the 338 00:18:21.759 --> 00:18:22.440 point of all that? 339 00:18:22.559 --> 00:18:27.640 What was the point of all that? Yeah, it's deeply frustrating. 340 00:18:28.200 --> 00:18:31.960 And again, John Romero, we joke is a legend is 341 00:18:31.960 --> 00:18:34.720 incredibly iportant to the game industry, and it's sort of 342 00:18:34.720 --> 00:18:38.400 distressing that they just, you know, their game could just 343 00:18:38.400 --> 00:18:40.920 get canceled like that and almost kind of like in 344 00:18:40.960 --> 00:18:43.880 the background amongst a lot of the bigger moves happening 345 00:18:44.279 --> 00:18:45.960 as far as but it's just a good reminder like 346 00:18:46.000 --> 00:18:49.039 this is these cutbacks are going to affect so many 347 00:18:49.039 --> 00:18:52.799 people because it's not like, you know, Xbox own this 348 00:18:52.920 --> 00:18:58.000 studio but your yeah, exactly. But if you're a smaller 349 00:18:58.039 --> 00:19:01.519 studio and your one game is being funded by Xbox 350 00:19:01.519 --> 00:19:04.119 and they cut the funding funding, then you're done. That's it, 351 00:19:04.160 --> 00:19:08.720 You're over all right. Neil Truckman pulls back from the 352 00:19:08.799 --> 00:19:11.160 Last of Us show to focus on Naughty Dog Games. 353 00:19:11.160 --> 00:19:14.759 This is by Dean Takahashia Games Beat. Neil Truckman, the 354 00:19:14.759 --> 00:19:16.640 co creator of the Last of Us show on HBO, 355 00:19:16.720 --> 00:19:18.640 is pointing back from the show's production to focus on 356 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:21.359 naty Dog Games. In a note to the job Naughty 357 00:19:21.440 --> 00:19:25.039 Dog community, Druckman said, I made the difficult decision to 358 00:19:25.039 --> 00:19:27.400 step away from my creative involvement in the Last of 359 00:19:27.440 --> 00:19:31.160 Us on HBO with work completed on season two before 360 00:19:31.400 --> 00:19:34.240 any meaningful work starts on season three. Now is the 361 00:19:34.279 --> 00:19:37.160 time for me to transition my complete focus to Naughty 362 00:19:37.200 --> 00:19:41.119 Dog and its future projects. Those tests include writing and 363 00:19:41.160 --> 00:19:45.079 directing for the next game Intergalactic, the Heretic Profit, along 364 00:19:45.119 --> 00:19:51.720 with his responsibilities in studio head and head of Creative Yeah. 365 00:19:51.799 --> 00:19:56.359 I mean that's a pretty big job right there. It's 366 00:19:56.440 --> 00:19:58.920 kind of wild to be super heavily involved with a 367 00:19:58.960 --> 00:20:01.880 TV show as long as he was. But I imagine that 368 00:20:01.920 --> 00:20:04.960 there's not too much more and but he can really 369 00:20:05.000 --> 00:20:07.680 give at this point. Have you watched the Last of 370 00:20:07.759 --> 00:20:09.559 Us shows? You're not like me? You don't think all 371 00:20:09.599 --> 00:20:10.839 TV is completely mid. 372 00:20:12.039 --> 00:20:15.599 No, I actually am like I've watched very little TV. Okay, 373 00:20:16.720 --> 00:20:19.559 I'm not a huge Last of Us person either, But 374 00:20:20.079 --> 00:20:23.160 I didn't you think the format of this was weird? 375 00:20:23.240 --> 00:20:27.680 Like it was posted like these apology screenshot text things 376 00:20:27.720 --> 00:20:29.960 that always come up with like a game's canceled or something. 377 00:20:30.640 --> 00:20:33.279 It was like a weird humble bragging away like, I'm 378 00:20:33.319 --> 00:20:37.079 just so busy making these award winning games. I just 379 00:20:37.279 --> 00:20:39.880 can't work on Pristige's television anymore. 380 00:20:39.920 --> 00:20:41.000 I'm too busy. 381 00:20:41.759 --> 00:20:44.480 I don't know, now that you mentioned it, now you 382 00:20:44.559 --> 00:20:47.640 mentioned it, Yeah, it's a little obnoxious to the bust. 383 00:20:48.359 --> 00:20:50.839 It is like to me, it does not seem that 384 00:20:50.880 --> 00:20:55.000 important that you're not consulting on season three of the 385 00:20:55.079 --> 00:20:58.160 Last of Us TV show anymore. 386 00:20:58.640 --> 00:21:01.079 You know, like this in an who cares? 387 00:21:01.400 --> 00:21:03.039 Yeah, go oh, I have to go back and do 388 00:21:03.119 --> 00:21:07.640 my job now, Okay, cool, I do that every day. 389 00:21:07.160 --> 00:21:09.799 Right, I mean, frankly, I mean, I don't know. I 390 00:21:09.799 --> 00:21:11.559 can't speak for other people. Made for him working on 391 00:21:11.559 --> 00:21:13.960 the TV shows, we're exciting. I'd imagine getting to work 392 00:21:13.960 --> 00:21:16.920 on Intergalactic to herit to profit and running all of 393 00:21:17.039 --> 00:21:20.720 Naughty Dog would be a pretty good gig. I think 394 00:21:20.759 --> 00:21:22.240 that would be a pretty good give. But you know, 395 00:21:22.240 --> 00:21:25.000 maybe it's all pretty rote for him now. I don't know. 396 00:21:26.319 --> 00:21:28.200 The impression I was getting was kind of, you know, 397 00:21:28.240 --> 00:21:31.319 Colm's kind of the games itself. Last of Less season 398 00:21:31.319 --> 00:21:34.799 two was a bit more divisive than that first season. 399 00:21:35.240 --> 00:21:38.000 I think the format off all of it was also like, 400 00:21:38.160 --> 00:21:39.960 you know, we did the l focus stuff here and 401 00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:43.680