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<v Speaker 1>Hello, lovely listener and viewer. I'm Dave and you're tuned in.

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<v Speaker 1>Not that that's possible on a podcast to what you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about? Willis with atp seventy four Marcus Willis currently

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<v Speaker 1>playing in the French Open. Now we make this podcast

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<v Speaker 1>to show what the real life is like of a

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<v Speaker 1>tour professional and along the way we have a giggle

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<v Speaker 1>and often stray into the stupid. We both find stupid

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<v Speaker 1>and easy thing to achieve him more than me, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>today's podcast is a reflection on the first round win

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<v Speaker 1>at Roland Garross. It's a quick catch up in between

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<v Speaker 1>Willis's media practice, Jim Physio and of course his lunch

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<v Speaker 1>or brunch or breakfast or maybe all three at once.

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<v Speaker 1>He loves a meal. Anyway, here's what you're talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>Willis live from the French Open. We're speaking the morning

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<v Speaker 1>after the match, mister Willis, And did you get a

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<v Speaker 1>little tingle as you're walking out from the changing room.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a little bit of you that isn't concentrated

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<v Speaker 1>on the match, but is actually concentrating in the enormity

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<v Speaker 1>of making your French Open debut.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess so. I was kind of focused on

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<v Speaker 2>the match.

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<v Speaker 3>But then you're walking into court, yacubs with this is

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<v Speaker 3>missus walking into court. Adam's already at the court waiting,

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, it was surreal.

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<v Speaker 2>I suppose. I don't really know how to explain it.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, because it's all right, isn't it to say

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<v Speaker 4>like you're wholly concentrated on the fact that you're playing

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<v Speaker 4>in your first round, etc. And you've got game plans

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<v Speaker 4>and you've trained for it and stuff like that. But

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<v Speaker 4>is there a bit where I don't know, almost like

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<v Speaker 4>a pinch me moment, like an excitable I'm playing the

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<v Speaker 4>French Open.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like for ten seconds I suppose maybe, But I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sewing the zone and as I say, I'm by myself,

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<v Speaker 3>taking all of myself. So it's it's strange. I was

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<v Speaker 3>just kind of walking the court, go and see if

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<v Speaker 3>I can win this match.

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<v Speaker 4>In a way, it's something that your brain can't process

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<v Speaker 4>that club players, even when they're playing in their club tournament,

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<v Speaker 4>are like consumed by nerves of seeing people, of being

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<v Speaker 4>like the club champion. You almost can't realize what it

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<v Speaker 4>would feel like if a normal person was in your

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<v Speaker 4>place to be able to separate it. Are you better

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<v Speaker 4>at doing that now. I keep saying it, but making

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<v Speaker 4>your deaby in your mid thirties, if you're in your

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<v Speaker 4>mid twenties making your French Open debut, would you have

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<v Speaker 4>been as calm.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, had I had the year I've just had and

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<v Speaker 3>played every other slam, then maybe. But I suppose I've Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I've worked on my mentality as well, you know, pay

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<v Speaker 3>a mental coach.

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<v Speaker 2>It's helped me a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's actually kind of say, well, you know, look

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<v Speaker 3>at the history of what you've done, and this isn't

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<v Speaker 3>a big deal for you anymore. You can come here

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<v Speaker 3>and win matches. You've done it before, so you know

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<v Speaker 3>you can turn up with you you know, with your

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<v Speaker 3>chin up and go right. I can come here and

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<v Speaker 3>win this is this is time. It's not like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>happy to be here, which of course I am. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>incredibly grateful, but it's kind of the narrative shift. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not an underdog anymore in my head, Like we we

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<v Speaker 3>had a very tough match yesterday, but you know, on

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<v Speaker 3>paper we're favorites and it's a different pressure shift now.

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<v Speaker 3>It can be difficult sometimes because I suppose if people

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<v Speaker 3>look at the rankings and stuff like that. All they're

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<v Speaker 3>playing ulternates. They should win that. But you look at

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<v Speaker 3>their results. You know, one of them is in an

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<v Speaker 3>ATV five hundred final last year.

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<v Speaker 2>They've won a.

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<v Speaker 3>Lot of matches together this year, won a lot of tournaments,

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<v Speaker 3>won six seven, six foot eight, both lefties, And yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we've got to go and deal with that. And it's different,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, turning up, turning up to a Grand Slammon's

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<v Speaker 3>favorite with a match, it's it's just a different.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to talk. I want to get into the

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<v Speaker 4>detail of the match. You were on court to right,

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<v Speaker 4>so that's got a seating, and there's something at the end.

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<v Speaker 2>A little church. Yea oh cute little church behind the court.

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<v Speaker 3>So say a few prayers if you're.

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<v Speaker 2>The match.

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<v Speaker 4>I was going to say, when you went near it,

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<v Speaker 4>did you feel like you were going to burst into flames?

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<v Speaker 3>Or I felt like I was going to burst into

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<v Speaker 3>flames anyway, Max, it's thirty five degrees.

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<v Speaker 4>Up there, right, So this is another thing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>the last thing you want in yesterday's heat, and he's

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<v Speaker 4>calming down a bit over there, right. The last thing

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<v Speaker 4>you need over there right is a three hour tennis match.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, doubles two yeah, not really ideal.

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<v Speaker 4>So what First of all, how did the courts play?

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<v Speaker 4>Is it fast clay? Is it high? Bounce it like

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<v Speaker 4>it's the conditions play a huge part into how the

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<v Speaker 4>clay reacts. So how did the court is self?

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<v Speaker 1>Play?

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<v Speaker 3>Quite heavy but lively in terms of you put spin

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<v Speaker 3>on the ball. It jumps a lot. But we didn't

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<v Speaker 3>hit an ace me and Yak of the whole match.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they hit three or four maps, so you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not like you can just hit a rocket. Well

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<v Speaker 3>I can't, but we served pretty well. But no, it's

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<v Speaker 3>not as quick as I thought it would be considering

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<v Speaker 3>how hot it is here. It's quite I think they

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<v Speaker 3>put something in the clay to make it not dry

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<v Speaker 3>so you can stand up, so it's nicer. Where some

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<v Speaker 3>clay got tournaments they water it. After ten minutes you

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<v Speaker 3>can't stand up, so it's it's it's nice nice, it's lively,

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<v Speaker 3>like you serve on the service line that will skid through.

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<v Speaker 4>Still Clay Dave as a tennis nerd Well, I was

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<v Speaker 4>going to say, like I've heard a little rumor that

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<v Speaker 4>Queen's Tennis Club are kind of considered the best grass

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<v Speaker 4>courts and not wiled, So I don't know about all that.

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<v Speaker 4>But is the French Open? Is this the best clay

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<v Speaker 4>courts you've ever played on? Like the quality of the.

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<v Speaker 3>Clay, I'd say so, yeah, but again you still get

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<v Speaker 3>yeah it is, it's better than better than most. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'd say it's probably the best. Yeah, But I mean

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<v Speaker 3>I hit at Monte Carlo once that was nice. Just different,

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<v Speaker 3>just all different. But it's still you still get bad bounces,

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<v Speaker 3>you still can't stand up sometimes, you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Still still.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way. Listener, go into previous podcasts for our

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<v Speaker 4>positive review of the clay called season.

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<v Speaker 2>Here on the surface.

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<v Speaker 4>I know you're a bit pressured for time. Tell us

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<v Speaker 4>about the match itself, the battle. I was watching it

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<v Speaker 4>point by point on an app and I'm I'm watching

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<v Speaker 4>a pretty formulate at first set that the you know,

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<v Speaker 4>human yakub look to be kind of coasting into the

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<v Speaker 4>first round. And I text Ali, who works on this podcast,

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<v Speaker 4>and I put, nothing can go wrong?

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Well, we played a very very good set. I

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<v Speaker 2>think we lost. We lost two points on our server

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<v Speaker 2>the whole set.

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<v Speaker 3>We broke them, yeah twice, and have break points in

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<v Speaker 3>the other games.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they they They played quite predictably. I'd say at

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<v Speaker 2>the start they weren't moving too much.

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<v Speaker 3>They're playing out of reg gave us quite a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of space to do what we wanted to do on returns.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you know, as we sat down after the

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<v Speaker 3>first set, I said, it's good.

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<v Speaker 2>But they're gonna they're gonna change things. They're gonna up it.

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<v Speaker 2>They're both very good players. So and that's what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>We went four one double breakdown, managed to get back

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<v Speaker 3>into a tie break, lost.

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<v Speaker 2>That and then three one up and the third got.

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<v Speaker 3>Broken back and then no more broke after that. But

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<v Speaker 3>we had break points twice. I don't think they had.

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<v Speaker 2>They won three out of four break points. We won

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<v Speaker 2>five out of fifteen.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was just it was just just with the

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<v Speaker 3>with the with the long juices, you get into so

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<v Speaker 3>many long games where you your break point up and

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<v Speaker 3>then Britain and game point down and then back to

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<v Speaker 3>It was just quite quite hard because a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>those were on their serfs and ours, and we had

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of chances that we didn't take. And I

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<v Speaker 3>felt like we were the better team overall, felt like

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<v Speaker 3>we were creating more chances on their servan they were

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<v Speaker 3>on ours.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I base it on.

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<v Speaker 3>And and there we go and we got we got

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<v Speaker 3>through in the end.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that that's what I was going to say, Like

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<v Speaker 4>having the having the chances is as important, right because

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<v Speaker 4>now you can go into your next match and think, well,

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<v Speaker 4>if you can just push that average up a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit from thirty three percent to fifty, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of more there's a lot more breaks is was it

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<v Speaker 4>what these break points? For most people? They're not going

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<v Speaker 4>to have seen this match because it wasn't broadcast on

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<v Speaker 4>so many places. Was it narrow misses or was it

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<v Speaker 4>them stepping up and up in their game?

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<v Speaker 2>Of both? A bit of both.

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<v Speaker 3>We had Love forty first game in the third second serf,

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<v Speaker 3>the guy went for a big wide serf, made it,

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<v Speaker 3>then made two more first serves. He kind of served

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<v Speaker 3>his way out of trouble. But like bravely, I went

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<v Speaker 3>for a big serve, Love forty down and thirty forty

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<v Speaker 3>got in the rally. I came across, hit the volley

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<v Speaker 3>at the net, lare he reflexed it, and then my

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<v Speaker 3>elbow or something hit the net. Well, yak, I've had

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<v Speaker 3>a short fourhand wow. So got called touch. So that

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<v Speaker 3>was just things like this kept happening and having half

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<v Speaker 3>chances and sea the first time I've touched the net

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<v Speaker 3>this year. Yeah, yeah, it happened at thirty forty first

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<v Speaker 3>game in the third. It's like and I made a

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<v Speaker 3>good move and had he had he missed the reflex

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<v Speaker 3>volley put it back of his frame. So yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it was just we had Yeah, there were some where

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<v Speaker 3>they served very well, and there were somewhere we were

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<v Speaker 3>in I think quite day, but there were some we

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<v Speaker 3>we did take.

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<v Speaker 4>So what's the communication between you and Yaka during the match?

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<v Speaker 4>What are you saying to each other? Change events?

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have that line.

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<v Speaker 3>You sit down and you have a drink in your

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<v Speaker 3>back up, So it's just like, yeah, keep going, keep

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<v Speaker 3>the energy high regardless.

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<v Speaker 2>I try and not over complicate it for.

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<v Speaker 3>Him, and he does the same for me, because if

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<v Speaker 3>he starts thinking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Too much, then you stop flowing. And that's that's where

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<v Speaker 2>we're good. When we flow. It's good to have a

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<v Speaker 2>rough idea like I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a lot of people cool exactly where you're going

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<v Speaker 3>to return, and then it's like, well, the guys are

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<v Speaker 3>serving two thirty kilometers like you're going to tell me

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<v Speaker 3>where you're going to return from that.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just one of these things in doubles, isn't it

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<v Speaker 4>accepting that there's just so much out of your control

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<v Speaker 4>about getting chances, not quite making it and the fine margins.

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<v Speaker 4>But I always wonder when I look at it, over

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<v Speaker 4>the course of the winning a Grand Slam, is it

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<v Speaker 4>just a case that those two players have played well

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<v Speaker 4>at the same time at key moments because it's so tight,

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<v Speaker 4>isn't it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, But you both need to contribute in slams because

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's not no ad you can get. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>through the year, you can I can break a pair

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<v Speaker 3>not making a returnal year because my partner wins four

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<v Speaker 3>because of the no addirble that that happens a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>You get someone who's not playing well, but the team

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<v Speaker 3>wins because the other guy did.

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<v Speaker 2>In slams, you can't do that.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't break without both people winning a point. So

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<v Speaker 3>m so it's different. I prefer playing this way, even

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<v Speaker 3>though it's longer. You feel like you get a true

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<v Speaker 3>winner rather than no ad. It's just like, oh, it's

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<v Speaker 3>random stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>I know you've got a carbet, I know you've got

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<v Speaker 4>to go. Let's just a quick word final question next.

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<v Speaker 2>Round manhatch wshare.

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<v Speaker 4>Big big games.

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<v Speaker 2>H Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>So you're going to going to the club now to prepare.

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<v Speaker 4>Prepare with Yakub, Prepare with Yakub.

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<v Speaker 2>Hit some balls to Jim.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, can't wait to speak tomorrow, mate, All right, take care, cheers.

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<v Speaker 5>Bro Victor of Baranco on troumpon, Sergeant Major of Craig

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<v Speaker 5>Frederick on the trumpets and the composition the Army Blues,

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<v Speaker 5>what like that.