Speaker 1: This is doctor Wendy Walsh and you're listening to k
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Speaker 1: dr Wendy Walsh. Reminder, I'm not a therapist. I'm a
Speaker 1: psychology professor. But I did write a dissertation on attachment theory,
Speaker 1: wrote three books on relationships, and been to a lot
Speaker 1: of therapy myself. So let's get into it. Dear doctor Wendy.
Speaker 1: I don't want to spend hours and hours with someone
Speaker 1: every time we hang out. I'm ok. With seeing someone
Speaker 1: for two to three hours once a week. I don't
Speaker 1: know how to communicate this without sounding awful. It's just
Speaker 1: my preference to not immerse myself in a man. Oh
Speaker 1: this woman writing this in a man right away? Or
Speaker 1: alter my life too much? How should I tell him?
Speaker 1: I don't know you, and I don't want to diagnose you,
Speaker 1: but this shore sounds to me like the voice of
Speaker 1: somebody with an avoidant detachment style. You see, people who
Speaker 1: desire a secure relationship are not afraid of intimacy, not
Speaker 1: afraid of closeness. I will agree with you on one thing.
Speaker 1: If you're just beginning to date somebody, you don't need
Speaker 1: to spend more than two or three hours with them
Speaker 1: on any given date. I heard recently from someone who said, oh,
Speaker 1: I met the greatest guy in our first date lasted
Speaker 1: seven hours. I want to smack her across the face. No,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't really, But has I had that thought like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, she should not? Kayla, you just looked
Speaker 1: at me like I was a mean mom. I thought
Speaker 1: you're talking about me. No, No, it would doesn't mean
Speaker 1: did you have a date? I told you how to
Speaker 1: date that last of six hours? You're like, that's way
Speaker 1: too much time. It is too much time. But I've
Speaker 1: met someone else, so you're not alone. Other women make
Speaker 1: that same mistake. I met another woman who said she
Speaker 1: did it for seven hours and then she met him
Speaker 1: the next day for another seven hours. Too much, too much,
Speaker 1: way too much, way too much. So I like the
Speaker 1: short dates, but the frequency, this whole thing of I
Speaker 1: don't really want to alter my life for a man.
Speaker 1: I don't want to get too close. I feel awful.
Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, if you're comfortable, then I
Speaker 1: would just say it. Just tell people, because it's not
Speaker 1: like having an avoidant attachment style is dysfunctional for you.
Speaker 1: It's working for you. But what you need to do
Speaker 1: is find another person who has an avoidant detachment style.
Speaker 1: You guys will be perfect together. You will live like
Speaker 1: polite roommates in your life. There'll be no intimacy and
Speaker 1: you'll be fine. There won't even be a lot of fighting, probably,
Speaker 1: So you just gotta be honest with those people. Honesty
Speaker 1: is the best policy. I already talked about that, all right.
Speaker 1: Moving on, dear doctor Wendy. I dated a guy in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. We dated for a long time, but we
Speaker 1: never became official boyfriend and girlfriend. Well that's your fault,
Speaker 1: just saying okay, so I had to throw that in.
Speaker 1: He told me he was healing himself with his therapist
Speaker 1: and didn't want a relationship until he heals. So I
Speaker 1: just want to pause and interject something here. You said
Speaker 1: we dated for a long time. Then you said he
Speaker 1: didn't want a relationship until he healed. I have some
Speaker 1: news for you. You were having a relationship, and so
Speaker 1: was he just throwing that out there. I realized that
Speaker 1: was an excuse and moved on with my life. We
Speaker 1: are still friends. This week, he told me he loves
Speaker 1: me and he thinks about me every day. Should I
Speaker 1: give another chance? I do love him, but he never
Speaker 1: moved forward with me the last time. Oh this is
Speaker 1: a good one. I have a good answer here. Okay.
Speaker 1: First of all, in general, the best predictor of somebody's
Speaker 1: future behavior is always their past behavior. If you go
Speaker 1: back to the same system you had before, he will
Speaker 1: behave the same way. So the answer is if you
Speaker 1: do choose to give him another chance. I actually kind
Speaker 1: of think it's a good idea, especially if he's working
Speaker 1: with a therapist, that you're gonna say, okay, but we
Speaker 1: need to do it differently, this way, this time, and
Speaker 1: here's how I want it to be different. You might suggest,
Speaker 1: because you said we dated for a long time, you
Speaker 1: might suggest, why don't we go to couple's therapy together
Speaker 1: so we can create a different system together as we
Speaker 1: build this. Or you could say, hear the things that
Speaker 1: bothered me about last time, how it never moved forward.
Speaker 1: Or you could say, hey, if you say you love
Speaker 1: me and I have those feelings too, then from the
Speaker 1: get go, let's be boyfriend and girlfriend. Let's not I
Speaker 1: have undefined nonsense. You already know this person. Remember you
Speaker 1: dated for a long time, so I would set up
Speaker 1: the boundaries definitely, and I might give them another chance.
Speaker 1: Do went to therapy? That's good, all right, dear doctor Wendy.
Speaker 1: My husband quit his job to become an actor. Oh god,
Speaker 1: this is heartbreaking. As soon as I read that sentence,
Speaker 1: I'm heartbroken. Quit his job to become an actor. You
Speaker 1: know what, I had a friend. I'm none even reading
Speaker 1: the rest yet until I just jump in and say this.
Speaker 1: I had a friend. She and I had modeled together
Speaker 1: when we were young, and then she moved to Texas
Speaker 1: and she married, you know, to a typical story of
Speaker 1: a model. She married a successful guy, had three kids
Speaker 1: once they became teenagers because she married young and had
Speaker 1: them so she was still youngish. And she came out
Speaker 1: to LA and said, I don't know what it is,
Speaker 1: but I just got the bug. I got the acting bug.
Speaker 1: She's from Texas.
Speaker 2: She can talk like that.
Speaker 1: Am I making fun of her? She got a book? No,
Speaker 1: I you do Texas very well, but she got an
Speaker 1: acting book. And so I remember she came over to
Speaker 1: LA and she called some of her high flutin friends
Speaker 1: who had contacts, and she had a lunch with like
Speaker 1: Mike Ovitz or something at his private Malibu house. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if that sounds like all business, but
Speaker 1: okay whatever. So I sat her down to lunch one day.
Speaker 1: You know again, I'm a truth teller and a heartbreaker.
Speaker 1: I'm such a mirror and reality check. And I said
Speaker 1: to her, why do you really want to become an actor?
Speaker 1: And she said, well, I just had the book. And
Speaker 1: I said, you know, acting is about having a limelight
Speaker 1: sean on you. It's about having a little entourage around you.
Speaker 1: It's about having a people applaud you. I'm wondering if
Speaker 1: you're feeling unloved in your life at home, if you're
Speaker 1: feeling ignored, if you're not getting enough attention. Look, it
Speaker 1: wasn't therapy. I was being a friend and I had
Speaker 1: a wondering. Okay, so I said it to her anyway.
Speaker 1: She said to me, you're so deep. I think you're right.
Speaker 1: Started crying. Went back to Texas, got a therapist, patched
Speaker 1: it up with her husband, and seems, I'm just looking
Speaker 1: at her on social media, seems beautiful and happy. So
Speaker 1: there you go. All right, back to this couple. Dear doctor, Wendy,
Speaker 1: my husband quit his job to become an actor. Wait,
Speaker 1: there's another sentence, Kayla, you're gonna love. We are in
Speaker 1: our late fifties. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm
Speaker 1: heartbroken for her, heartbreaking. And then the next sentence, he's
Speaker 1: not very good at acting. I'm sorry. If you're listening,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, if you're listening, it's just so painful, it's
Speaker 1: so heartbreaking. Wait, next sentence, I'm gonna review. Okay, everybody,
Speaker 1: my husband quit his job to become an actor. Point
Speaker 1: number one, point number two. We are in our late fifties.
Speaker 1: You all know it's a young person's game, all right.
Speaker 1: Point number three, he's not very good at acting. That's
Speaker 1: her opinion. We don't know the truth there. Point number four,
Speaker 1: this is stressing me out. And then the question how
Speaker 1: can I gently tell him to get his crap together? Okay,
Speaker 1: the word gentle doesn't need to be there. Okay, you
Speaker 1: need to say, dude, make yourself happy. But I'm not
Speaker 1: hanging around while you run around to a bunch of
Speaker 1: auditions and go to parties and meet starlets and whatever.
Speaker 1: Why are you doing it? What is up? Right? You guys?
Speaker 1: Should you should demand if you want to keep the marriage,
Speaker 1: demand you go to couple's therapy and go what is up?
Speaker 1: I mean, I understand it's time to find yourself. But look,
Speaker 1: I went through a phase in my late forties where
Speaker 1: I thought, maybe I still could join the New York
Speaker 1: City Ballet. Maybe there's a chance, right, I mean, we
Speaker 1: have these fantasies. Look, the chance of a young hot
Speaker 1: person in their twenties becoming successful and earning a living,
Speaker 1: not even famous, just earning a living in the entertainment
Speaker 1: business is very slim. In your fifties, It's even slimmer
Speaker 1: there are fewer parts. It's hard to break in. You
Speaker 1: don't have the contacts. They would rather hire an actor
Speaker 1: in their fifties who's had thirty years of experience in
Speaker 1: the business. So I'm sorry to burst your bubble. You
Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen, Kayla, She's gonna take this segment
Speaker 1: from the iHeartRadio app. She's gonna send it to her
Speaker 1: husband with all the laughter, Wendy, he will cry. I
Speaker 1: know we can't.
Speaker 2: Don't send it.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you have to give people the gift. Oh JESU.
Speaker 1: All right, when we come back, I'm gonna continue answering
Speaker 1: your relationship questions. Thank you for trusting me. I promise
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try not to laugh next time, but I
Speaker 1: know I'm laughing out of It's like Yallow's humor. It's sad,
Speaker 1: breaks my heart. You're listening to the Doctor Wendy Wells
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Doctor Wendy Wells Show on KFI
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Speaker 1: am weighing on your love life. You send me a
Speaker 1: DM on Instagram, follow me on Instagram at dr Wendy
Speaker 1: Walsh at doctor Wendy Walsh, and send me a private message.
Speaker 1: I do not disclose your name. I try to not
Speaker 1: reveal any details about your identity, and I try really
Speaker 1: hard not to laugh unless it's so heartbreaking that I'm
Speaker 1: going to cry. Unless I giggle. That was last segment. Okay,
Speaker 1: dear doctor Wendy, I have been with my wife since
Speaker 1: we were teenagers. Oh that's so sweet. I don't know
Speaker 1: life without her. We just aren't compatible. In our forties.
Speaker 1: We tried therapy and nothing changed. She doesn't understand that
Speaker 1: I don't feel appreciated. Is there any way to save us?
Speaker 1: I have only one thing to say. That's a question
Speaker 1: for the two of you to ask each other in
Speaker 1: a therapist's office. This might be the beginning of you
Speaker 1: guys doing some conscious uncoupling. I know you said and
Speaker 1: you don't know life without her, but that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: that life without her might not be great. You also said,
Speaker 1: she doesn't understand that you don't feel appreciated. Your therapist
Speaker 1: is going to help you figure out whether it's about
Speaker 1: something she's doing or something that's going on internally with you,
Speaker 1: Like no one could make you feel appreciated because you
Speaker 1: don't appreciate yourself. I don't know. I don't know the answer,
Speaker 1: but I think the two of you need to talk
Speaker 1: about whether to go forward or not together. And don't
Speaker 1: be afraid of the future. Don't be afraid of change.
Speaker 1: You've been together like twenty five years. That's a successful
Speaker 1: relationship even if it culminates, So never feel like it's
Speaker 1: a failure. But people change across a lifespan. They do.
Speaker 1: Dear doctor Wendy ah, very honest, simple listener wrote this
Speaker 1: to me, my son is gay. I never would have
Speaker 1: guessed what are the best ways to support him? You know,
Speaker 1: I was reading the New York Times writes these things
Speaker 1: called tiny love stories, and there was one from a
Speaker 1: actually a couple of years ago. I was took a
Speaker 1: deep dive into some backstuff, back pages, and this young
Speaker 1: woman said that it was so hard for her, at
Speaker 1: the age of eighteen to tell her mom that she
Speaker 1: was gay. She said, coincidentally, her mom had always called
Speaker 1: her her rainbow child's and she was little because she
Speaker 1: thought of rainbows as happiness and pot of gold at
Speaker 1: the end of the rainbow. It had always been her nickname,
Speaker 1: and her mom's reaction was sort of nothing, not positive,
Speaker 1: not negative. She really wasn't sure how her mom took it.
Speaker 1: And one time she was away at college and for
Speaker 1: her birthday, her mom sent her a huge box of
Speaker 1: rainbow colored goldfish crackers to snack on. Don't ask me
Speaker 1: about the dies and those things, and her mom said,
Speaker 1: did you get it rainbow crackers for my rainbow child?
Speaker 1: And she said, at that moment, I knew my mother
Speaker 1: loved me deeply, no matter what. So the answer is,
Speaker 1: your son is your son, and love is love. There's
Speaker 1: no when you say how do you support him? You
Speaker 1: support him the way you would support any other child
Speaker 1: you have. You love them, you care about them. You
Speaker 1: don't necessarily have to be intrusive about their love lives
Speaker 1: if you don't want to know, or you can say, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm supportive, I love you. I want you to choose
Speaker 1: a partner who loves you as much as I love you,
Speaker 1: and whatever whoever you are, your mine. You do you
Speaker 1: remind your kid that they are loved unconditionally, all right? Uh,
Speaker 1: Dear doctor, Wendy. I found out that a guy I
Speaker 1: was dating went through my phone. He confronted me about
Speaker 1: someone else I am dating. I feel this is a violation.
Speaker 1: How do I tell him never to ever do this again?
Speaker 1: Or should I just leave him? We've only been dating
Speaker 1: for four months. Well, there are a few things here
Speaker 1: I want to talk about. First of all, he's testing you, right,
Speaker 1: he's testing the control things. He violated your trust, he
Speaker 1: violated your privacy. You should be very upset about that.
Speaker 1: On the other hand, you said you were dating somebody else.
Speaker 1: I don't know if this guy who went through your
Speaker 1: phone thought he was exclusive with you, had you had
Speaker 1: the conversation. So how much is it on you that
Speaker 1: he had this perception? Now if you say, well, we
Speaker 1: just never had the conversation. So if we don't the conversation,
Speaker 1: maybe I could be dating more people. Right. So, I
Speaker 1: think what's really important with everybody out there is that
Speaker 1: when in the early stages of dating, especially once you
Speaker 1: enter a sexual relationship, is you start to be clear.
Speaker 1: You start to be clear about you know, what the
Speaker 1: boundaries are, what the rules are, whether you're exclusive or not,
Speaker 1: whether you're public, blah blah blah, blah blah, and if
Speaker 1: you haven't done that, So let's assume. I'm just going
Speaker 1: to assume here that the two of you never had
Speaker 1: the conversation about exclusivity, and so you assumed it's okay
Speaker 1: to date other people. He went through your phone saw
Speaker 1: that indeed you were dating other people. It's a big
Speaker 1: mess right now, Okay. I will say that this was
Speaker 1: a test to see what you could tolerate because you've
Speaker 1: only been dating in four months, and there's obviously somebody
Speaker 1: else you can be dating. I would, this is me,
Speaker 1: me and my personal opinion in my life, I would
Speaker 1: call it a red flag and leave him because if
Speaker 1: he's go I went through your phone already, later he's
Speaker 1: going to become your stalker. Like that is such a
Speaker 1: violation and such a betrayal. So for me, I'd be like,
Speaker 1: you know what, dude, we were not exclusive, if that's true,
Speaker 1: and so you had no right to violate my privacy.
Speaker 1: So I don't think we could see each other anymore
Speaker 1: because it's only going to get worse. Trust me. Hey,
Speaker 1: when we come back, people often ask me what's a
Speaker 1: normal love life? What is typical? Right? Let me tell
Speaker 1: you what I think A normal love life is when
Speaker 1: we come back. You are listening to the Doctor Wendy
Speaker 1: Wall Show on KFI AM six forty with Live everywhere
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Speaker 2: You're listening to Doctor Wendy Walsh on demand from KFI
Speaker 2: AM six forty.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Doctor Wendy Wall Show on KFI
Speaker 1: AM six forty, Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio App. You know,
Speaker 1: the probably the most common question I get is what's normal?
Speaker 1: Am I? Normal?
Speaker 2: Is normal? Is this typical?
Speaker 1: Let me tell you there's no such thing as normal
Speaker 1: when it comes to dating, mating, and relating. We have
Speaker 1: the widest range of dating and bonding behavior, sexual behavior,
Speaker 1: and paternal investment. Paternal investment fathers investing in kids of
Speaker 1: any primate species. Literally, there are guys out there who's
Speaker 1: only investment in their offspring we know them is one
Speaker 1: teaspoon of sperm elon well he puts some finances into.
Speaker 1: And then there are other men who are carpool driving,
Speaker 1: softball throwing, baby wearing, doting dads right, and we have
Speaker 1: everything in between. We also have men and women who
Speaker 1: are complete players, not monogamous ever, not gonna happen. And
Speaker 1: other people of all genders who are completely monogamous cross
Speaker 1: a lifespan might have you know, one or two or
Speaker 1: three stints of monogamy. By the way, do you want
Speaker 1: to know how anthropologists tell how much monogamy is in
Speaker 1: a species. They look at the size of their scrotum. Yeah,
Speaker 1: listen to this. So at one end you've got chimpanzees.
Speaker 1: Their scrotum are particularly large relative to body size. They
Speaker 1: tend to be very promiscuous, very sexual, very violent, all
Speaker 1: that testosterone. If there's a nursing mother, they practice in
Speaker 1: fantaside and kill the baby to make her fertile again,
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of rape that goes on. Crazy.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be around chimps. And then there's
Speaker 1: like orangutans at the other end, they're like big hulking bodies,
Speaker 1: little tiny chestnuts, kind of monogamous, very paternalistic. And you
Speaker 1: know what we have with Homo sapien. That would be us.
Speaker 1: We have everything. We have the widest range of mating
Speaker 1: behavior and parenting behavior. However, culture matters. Humans have lots
Speaker 1: of cultural variations. For instance, capitalism and patriarchy, which are
Speaker 1: cultural inventions, really favor nuclear families in capitalism and patriarchy.
Speaker 1: We don't have a group childcare, etc. We don't have
Speaker 1: subsidized childcare in the workplace. We have Mom and dad
Speaker 1: should try to do it. It's all on you. Religion
Speaker 1: might be a cultural factor. The Abrahamic religions, Judeo Christian,
Speaker 1: Muslim favor in group mating people in the parish because
Speaker 1: they want to keep membership in their club. Also, developmental
Speaker 1: stages matter, and our developmental growth stages of individual humans
Speaker 1: has been shifting. You know, in nineteen fifty a twenty
Speaker 1: five year old man was married, had a mortgage and
Speaker 1: two kids. Today people are launching much later. But that
Speaker 1: brings other problems in relationship because fertility matters. We might
Speaker 1: be dating and marrying later, but our biological fertility windows
Speaker 1: have not shifted. And before you stop there and go
Speaker 1: it's a women's problem. All kinds of new research is
Speaker 1: showing that if men have babies later in life, their
Speaker 1: kids have a much higher rate of autism. Lots of
Speaker 1: push on that, lots of evidence. So we are trying
Speaker 1: to use technology to deal with the fact that our
Speaker 1: biological windows have not changed. Things like egg freezing in
Speaker 1: vitro fertilization surrogacy. I want to remind you that breakups
Speaker 1: and divorce are normal, They are not failures. So what
Speaker 1: is a somewhat typical pattern of relationship life? After I
Speaker 1: told you there's so much variety, let's talk about what's
Speaker 1: kind of typical. Well, first of all, nowadays, dating and
Speaker 1: sexual exploration in our teenage and twenties is the norm.
Speaker 1: I should tell you. As of twenty twenty two, the
Speaker 1: median age for first time marriage in the United States
Speaker 1: listen to this is thirty and a half years for
Speaker 1: men and twenty eight point six years for women. That means,
Speaker 1: by that age, if you're out in the mating marketplace,
Speaker 1: by the age of thirty, half the men are off
Speaker 1: the market. Half the men are off the market, and
Speaker 1: the ones that are still in the market same with
Speaker 1: the women half. All right. States with the lowest median
Speaker 1: age at first time marriage Utah, of course, twenty six
Speaker 1: for men, twenty four for women, Idaho, Arkansas, and Wyoming.
Speaker 1: Then at a certain point, people divorce. Here's another interesting
Speaker 1: stat The average age of first time divorce is thirty
Speaker 1: and a half for men and twenty nine for women.
Speaker 1: It's about the same and the average duration of that
Speaker 1: marriage is about seven years. So look what we're saying,
Speaker 1: don't get married under the age of twenty five, because
Speaker 1: that's when you have the highest divorce rate. But the
Speaker 1: other group where divorce rates are flying up are people
Speaker 1: over the age of fifty because we're living so much longer.
Speaker 1: Fifty is the new forty, sixty is the new fifty.
Speaker 1: People are realizing they're bored in their relationships or the
Speaker 1: purpose of the relationship is over now raising kids or
Speaker 1: building a business or whatever it may be, building a household,
Speaker 1: and so we're seeing divorce is gray divorce. We call
Speaker 1: it gray divorce increasing faster than anything. And back to
Speaker 1: mate selection. It used to be that there were only
Speaker 1: single people in their twenties, and now there are large
Speaker 1: swaths of single people across the lifespan. I mentioned to
Speaker 1: you that when till Death to Us part was invented,
Speaker 1: death was pretty imminent. And as a result, even if
Speaker 1: you're a complete secure attacher, if you have a healthy
Speaker 1: relationships and you're very monogamous, that you still may have
Speaker 1: two or three long stints of monogamy in your life.
Speaker 1: So we have to continue to learn and hone our
Speaker 1: relationship skills about mate acquisition, mate retention, and sometimes learning
Speaker 1: mate expulsion. This is typical. This is normal. If you
Speaker 1: believe a myth that you meet your soulmate once early
Speaker 1: in life and you're going to stay with That is
Speaker 1: the minority. Now. I know I'm going to get some
Speaker 1: talkbacks from you guys on the app and emails from using.
Speaker 1: But I met my wife and we've been married forty
Speaker 1: five years and we stayed together. Good for you, congratulations
Speaker 1: and I'm so glad you were happy, and I'm so
Speaker 1: glad it was satisfying to everybody involved. But you're not typical.
Speaker 1: You're the minority. What is typical is two or three
Speaker 1: stints of monogamy with some mate selection or sexual exploration
Speaker 1: in between. And I want to pull everybody off the
Speaker 1: gilt train if they think that any relationship they've had
Speaker 1: has failed and hasn't failed. You're learning, you're getting better,
Speaker 1: and I'm proud of you. And that brings our show
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