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<v Speaker 1>Your summer pocket knife of information.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the only way to stay informed. Fifty five KRC

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<v Speaker 1>Ato six fifty five KR see the talk station. It

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<v Speaker 1>was an amazing conversation with Sarah Man. She has maintains

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<v Speaker 1>her composure and I was expecting an allergy outbreak, to

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<v Speaker 1>be quite honest with you, and almost had one in

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<v Speaker 1>the close of that segment with Sarah, she did want

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<v Speaker 1>everyone to know. While she did not want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the actual murder of her husband and wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>steer clear of the details of that he died saving

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<v Speaker 1>her life. So wanted to make sure that everyone knew

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<v Speaker 1>that because Sarah thought it a very important and yes,

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<v Speaker 1>a very important detail concerning the quality and character of

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<v Speaker 1>the late Patrick Herringer. Welcome back to the fifty five

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<v Speaker 1>KRSE Morning Show. Completely changing gears to a very positive meeting.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently we have on the program the return of Ohio's

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<v Speaker 1>Secretary of State, Frank LeRose. Frank, always a real pleasure

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<v Speaker 1>having you on the program.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, thanks for having me back, Brian, looking forward to

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<v Speaker 3>this conversation and hope things are going well for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Things going great as far as great goes. But understand,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of great that you had what might be described

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<v Speaker 1>as a great meeting with the White House regarding voter integrity.

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<v Speaker 1>The other day I saw your post on social media

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<v Speaker 1>about that, declaring it a very productive meeting. What was

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<v Speaker 1>the purpose of the meeting, What did you discuss and

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<v Speaker 1>what do we have to look forward to?

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<v Speaker 2>Frank LeRose, Yeah, this is a group.

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<v Speaker 3>That has grown in the last several months. Way back

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<v Speaker 3>in February, just a month into the new administration, myself

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<v Speaker 3>and one or two other secretaries of State got together

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<v Speaker 3>with the President's policy team. At that point, they were

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<v Speaker 3>just in the development process of the Executive Order on

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<v Speaker 3>Election Integrity that the President has done. And then we

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<v Speaker 3>met again in April and it was a larger group,

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<v Speaker 3>and now getting together in July, we had I think

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen to twenty other secretaries of State from around the country, including,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, a bipartisan represent I'm proud to say

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<v Speaker 3>we were able to get a few Democrats to join

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<v Speaker 3>in the conversation, and that's good. That's how elections administration

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<v Speaker 3>should work. And largely what the conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Was about is list maintenance.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you may start to think snooze, boring, list maintenance,

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely not actually, in fact, one of the most important

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<v Speaker 3>things that elections officials do is maintain accurate voter rules.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's hard. We've been leading the charge on this.

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<v Speaker 3>In Ohio for a long time and kind of setting

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<v Speaker 3>the example for the rest of the country. And how

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<v Speaker 3>do you maintain accurate voter rules?

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<v Speaker 2>What does this mean? Taking dead people off.

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<v Speaker 3>The rules, taking making sure non citizens never get on

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<v Speaker 3>the voter rules, right when people move from one county

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<v Speaker 3>to another, or god forbid, somebody moved out of Ohio.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't know why they would want to do that, making

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<v Speaker 2>sure they.

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<v Speaker 3>Get removed from the voter rules. So those are the

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<v Speaker 3>things that we've done in Ohio for a long time,

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<v Speaker 3>but we've had to work around the federal government. Not

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<v Speaker 3>so much with the federal government, even though they are

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<v Speaker 3>a repository of a lot of this data.

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<v Speaker 2>That we need to do voter list maintenance.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, last year I had to sue the Biden

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<v Speaker 3>administration to try to get some basic citizenship data so

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<v Speaker 3>that we could prevent non citizens from becoming registered to vote.

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<v Speaker 3>I can tell you it's been a complete change of

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<v Speaker 3>attitude with the Trump administration and what they're doing is

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<v Speaker 3>truly remarkable. Because they're pulling together all these different parts

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<v Speaker 3>of the federal government, and isn't that what an executive

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<v Speaker 3>the job. You see, the Social Security Administration.

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<v Speaker 2>Has good data on who has.

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<v Speaker 3>Died because they don't want to send those Social Security

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<v Speaker 3>checks anymore. So Social Security is really good at that,

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<v Speaker 3>but they wouldn't give us that data. Finally, they are

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<v Speaker 3>the Department of Homeland Security has pretty good data on

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<v Speaker 3>who's the citizen and who's not, but they made it

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<v Speaker 3>enormously hard for us to get a hold of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Until recently, the federal government didn't always know what the

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<v Speaker 3>administration's pulling all those entities together to make this thing

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<v Speaker 3>called the Save database work. The Save Database is what

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<v Speaker 3>secretaries of State are are now able to use in

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<v Speaker 3>a much more streamlined way to maintain the accuracy of

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<v Speaker 3>our voter rules. And I couldn't be happier with the

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<v Speaker 3>work that the Trump administration is doing. By the way,

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<v Speaker 3>previous administrations told us that this would take years to do,

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<v Speaker 3>It would.

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<v Speaker 2>Cost millions of dollars. They may never be able.

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<v Speaker 3>To get the project done to do this, and the

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<v Speaker 3>Trump administration's done it like in the last five months.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we need a new laws for immigration on the

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<v Speaker 1>books before we could stop the open border from happening.

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<v Speaker 1>And oh look, no new law, the borders shut down.

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<v Speaker 1>It is amazing what a change of administration can bring about.

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<v Speaker 2>Leadership.

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<v Speaker 3>Leadership matters. And I'll tell you what, government is excellent

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<v Speaker 3>at making excuses. And there's a lot of good people

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<v Speaker 3>that work in government, don't get me wrong, But deep

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<v Speaker 3>within the bureaucracy, whether it's a city hall, a county government,

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<v Speaker 3>a state government, or the federal government, are a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people who are just wired to say no because

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<v Speaker 3>it's safer that way. Well, the federal government has not

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<v Speaker 3>always moved this fast, but the President has got his

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<v Speaker 3>team saying, yes, yes, we can do this.

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<v Speaker 2>We can find a way to access this information, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, in a way that is secure.

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<v Speaker 3>And maintains confidentiality for people's personal information. But we can

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<v Speaker 3>use the vast troves of data that the federal government

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<v Speaker 3>has to maintain accurate voterals.

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<v Speaker 2>It is our job.

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<v Speaker 3>And by the way, it's actually called for in legislation

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<v Speaker 3>that was passed years ago. They just keep telling us

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<v Speaker 3>they couldn't do it. Finally, this administration is making it happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess I'm kind of curious to know what

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<v Speaker 1>the argument was in the years they were fighting against

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<v Speaker 1>your getting access to this critically important information that they have, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, the Social Security Administration. Now we know that

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<v Speaker 1>they have two hundred year old people still apparently perceived

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<v Speaker 1>as alive. That's being worked out and fixed. But generally speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>let's seem for the sake of discussion, they have some

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<v Speaker 1>really good, valuable information on who's died. What possible reason

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<v Speaker 1>could they articulate for not letting you have it? Because

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<v Speaker 1>federal law does not allow dead people to vote in elections.

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<v Speaker 1>You want those off the roles just to prevent fraud

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<v Speaker 1>from happening. Isn't that a concept that should be universally embraced,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, And listen, the data that those Security administration has

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<v Speaker 3>is pretty good because they don't want to send checks

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<v Speaker 3>to dead people. Anybody that's had a loved one pass

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<v Speaker 3>and we haven't in my family just in the last year,

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<v Speaker 3>those Social Security checks stop pretty pretty abruptly. They're usually

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<v Speaker 3>pretty much on top of that. What we had used

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<v Speaker 3>for years is and we still use this. By the way,

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<v Speaker 3>because this is a multi layer approach, is we use

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<v Speaker 3>the Ohio Department of Health and we get that list

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<v Speaker 3>from them every month. I actually passed the bill when

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<v Speaker 3>I was in the state Senate that created this process.

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<v Speaker 3>Ten years ago this didn't exist, but every month the

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<v Speaker 3>Department of Health tells us who has passed. We used

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<v Speaker 3>that list to remove them from the vterals. The challenge

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<v Speaker 3>comes in about people that pass away in another state

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<v Speaker 3>or even God forbid, out of the country, because the

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<v Speaker 3>depth record is generally created where the person is deceased.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you're at your place in the Carolinas or

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<v Speaker 2>Pass, we may not know about it.

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<v Speaker 3>And obviously the federal government is able to aggregate that

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<v Speaker 3>at a fifty state level much more effectively. You asked

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<v Speaker 3>the question what was their excuse. Their excuse was generally

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<v Speaker 3>some version of you hay seeds out there in flyover

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<v Speaker 3>and you would probably incorrectly remove people from the voterals.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a bit of a great deal of arrogance.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, a person from the Department of Homeland Security

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<v Speaker 3>last year when we were asking them to be able

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<v Speaker 3>to query their database using common numbers like last four

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<v Speaker 3>of US Social Security never paired with data birth, full name, address,

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of thing. She was saying, well, we used

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<v Speaker 3>to allow states to do that, but we think that

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<v Speaker 2>So we stopped, and I said, well, trust us.

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<v Speaker 3>It's my statutory responsibility to remove people from the voter uals,

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<v Speaker 3>for example non citizens, and keep them off the voter roles.

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<v Speaker 2>So trust me with that data and make it available

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<v Speaker 2>to us.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, we had to sue the Biden administration to get that,

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<v Speaker 3>and so it was a lot of arrogance from the

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<v Speaker 1>Quite honestly, I can't chalk it off as arrogance. What

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is is actually that they want to

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<v Speaker 1>create an environment where it is possible for people to

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<v Speaker 1>vote who are not lawfully entitled to vote. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got all these blue states that are losing hemorrhaging

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<v Speaker 1>taxpayers and replacing them with illegal immigrants. It's happened in California,

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<v Speaker 1>of them even said the quiet part out loud is

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<v Speaker 1>we need of these people here for the purpose of

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<v Speaker 1>maintaining a certain number of representatives in the House. But

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<v Speaker 1>more fundamentally, if they're allowed to vote, this certainly could

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<v Speaker 1>be large numbers influencing the outcome of the election.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Brian, maybe I was very carefully answering the exact

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<v Speaker 3>question you asked me, because you asked me the reason,

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<v Speaker 3>the reason that they gave me one that we couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>handle it. But what you're getting to is their motivation

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, you're right.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that it's a mix of just that insidious.

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<v Speaker 3>Some people, particularly on the left, just want the vote

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<v Speaker 3>voter rules to be voted. Others just don't believe it's

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<v Speaker 3>a problem, and they say, well, you know, nobody would

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<v Speaker 3>actually try to commit voter fraud. It's exceedingly rare. And

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be the first to tell you as a percentage

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<v Speaker 3>of the overall total of votes, it is a It

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<v Speaker 3>is a small number. We see, you know, dozens or hundreds.

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<v Speaker 3>We prosecute them, and we make sure that people face

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<v Speaker 2>Try to break the law. But here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Elections in Ohio come down to small margins all over

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<v Speaker 3>the country, and yet it's probably not going to determine

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<v Speaker 3>a governor's race or a US Senate race. But you

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<v Speaker 3>know what, it can make a big difference in a

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<v Speaker 3>fool board election or a little.

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<v Speaker 2>Tax levy, a mayor's race. We've had mayors.

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<v Speaker 3>Races in Ohio within the last couple of years that.

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<v Speaker 2>Came down to a coin flip.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and so don't tell me one fraudulent vote is

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<v Speaker 3>something that we can just you know, let go by.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess I saw an article about Georgia. Was

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<v Speaker 1>a Secretary of State Brad Rafthensburger part of your working group.

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<v Speaker 1>Brad was Yeah, because he just announced they're removing four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and eighty thousand inactive voters in their state's voter rolls.

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<v Speaker 1>And so obviously that a potential looming problem right there.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's there's four hundred and eighty thousand people it

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't have been on the voter roles in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the first.

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<v Speaker 2>Instance, And kudos to Brad for doing that.

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<v Speaker 3>We haven't always been on the same sheet on the things.

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<v Speaker 3>But but but Brad's an engineer by training, he's a

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<v Speaker 3>he comes with a background in construction and architecture, and

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<v Speaker 3>he's a good mind when it comes to the analytical

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<v Speaker 3>set of things.

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<v Speaker 2>We're doing the same in Ohio.

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<v Speaker 3>We do it every year now, so our numbers don't

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<v Speaker 3>necessarily get that large. But we've got a couple hundred

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<v Speaker 3>thousand that we're removing in September. Now, what you're going

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<v Speaker 3>to hear is that just watch for this on social

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<v Speaker 3>media and in the newspapers.

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<v Speaker 2>The liberals are going.

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<v Speaker 3>To claim that I'm urging the voter rolls, that I'm

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<v Speaker 3>taking all these people off the voter rolls. We're not

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<v Speaker 3>taking people off the voter roles. In most cases, we're

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<v Speaker 3>taking bad records out of the voter rules. And we've

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<v Speaker 3>got a couple hundred thousand that are set to be

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<v Speaker 3>removed in September. I had an innovation a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>years ago that other states are now following. We published

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<v Speaker 3>that list. We published that list months ago, and we said,

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<v Speaker 3>if any voter advocacy group, city, any groups out there,

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<v Speaker 3>think that my list is wrong, then crowdsource this, go

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<v Speaker 3>through it, tell me where it's wrong. But we've gotten

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<v Speaker 3>that down to a pretty good process now, and when

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<v Speaker 3>we remove those couple hundred in September. What we're doing

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<v Speaker 3>is taking away those that have moved out of state

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<v Speaker 3>and failed to remove their registration, those that may have

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<v Speaker 3>died out of state, and because we didn't have that

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<v Speaker 3>social security data previously, we didn't catch them in our

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<v Speaker 3>scrub of deceased voters and those that are just duplicates.

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<v Speaker 3>And sometimes that happens very rarely because of a data

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<v Speaker 3>entry error at a board of elections. But when there's

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<v Speaker 3>humans involved, there's found to be some level of human error,

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<v Speaker 3>and so we're out of the process we have in

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<v Speaker 3>Ohio and really hold it up as an example for

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<v Speaker 3>the rest of the country to follow. This came up

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<v Speaker 3>in Congress just two weeks ago where there was an

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<v Speaker 3>election expert testify in front of the House Admin Committee,

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<v Speaker 3>and he said, look at what Ohio's doing, and the

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<v Speaker 3>other forty nine should follow that well.

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<v Speaker 1>And to the extent someone was erroneously removed, that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>prevent them from reregistering to vote, does it.

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<v Speaker 3>It will take you about two minutes I register to

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<v Speaker 3>vote at vote Ohio dot gov if you are a

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<v Speaker 3>eligible voter.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, we don't want to remove anybody inaccurately.

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll really go through a lot of processes to

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<v Speaker 3>get this done right and get this done accurately and.

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<v Speaker 1>Real quick, because it's been a hot topic of conversation

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<v Speaker 1>of late, people who are registered in more than one

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<v Speaker 1>states and receiving benefits from more than one states in

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<v Speaker 1>the Medicaid program. When you find that someone has moved

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<v Speaker 1>out of state in your efforts to keep the voting

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<v Speaker 1>roles accurate, does that information get shared with Medicaid by

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<v Speaker 1>any chance?

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<v Speaker 2>So not directly. We have to go through the process

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<v Speaker 2>of doing that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm actually involved right now in a conversation with the

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<v Speaker 3>US Department of Agriculture, which maintains the SNAP system right Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>commonly known as foodstaffs, because they have found the evidence

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<v Speaker 3>of people receiving food stamps in multiple states yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And so we've got a.

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<v Speaker 3>Conversation going right now with Secretary Rollins at the Department

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<v Speaker 3>of Agriculture, And then we have to do the investigation

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<v Speaker 3>to find out are they registered in both states?

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<v Speaker 2>Did they try to vote in both states? And if

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<v Speaker 2>they did, we'll.

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<v Speaker 3>Pursue prosecution for them where the second voter curt because

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<v Speaker 3>that's where the crime is. If they voted a second

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<v Speaker 3>time in Ohio, will refer them to our county prosecutors

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<v Speaker 3>and our state AG or to that state's AG where

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<v Speaker 3>the second voter curve. We take this stuff very seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome news to my listening audience. Secretary of State Frank LeRose,

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<v Speaker 1>God bless you, sir. Thank you for the time you

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<v Speaker 1>spent my listening audience, and meet this morning and keep

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<v Speaker 1>up the great work. Thanks Briance, my pleasure. It's a

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