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<v Speaker 1>Weird things happened in the Weird, Weird Weird.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, guys, welcome to another very special episode. I

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<v Speaker 2>know I say that about every guest, but when it

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<v Speaker 2>is for real, I really mean it. I'm definitely getting

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<v Speaker 2>the same vibes as when we had Dunkin Trussell on

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<v Speaker 2>the show, because similar to the way that we you know,

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<v Speaker 2>had him come on and it was something that we

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<v Speaker 2>were like, I really want this, I really want this.

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<v Speaker 2>This lovely gentleman who's joining us today is somebody that,

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<v Speaker 2>for four years now one of my most desired guests

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<v Speaker 2>owner show. So we are joined by the amazing Dakota

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<v Speaker 2>Wind and this is an amazing god I'll even know

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<v Speaker 2>what to call it, synchronicity, manifestation. Yeah, just the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that you're here with us today is like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>really awesome. So what's up to nice?

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much for that. I also love Duncan,

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm happy to that you. I see Duncan also

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<v Speaker 3>as like this glimmering just psychedelic or about there.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I love Duncan and yeah, he's a big inspiration of mine.

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<v Speaker 3>He was one of the big reasons actually that got

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<v Speaker 3>me connected to Ramdas. Oh, it's a weird little entanglement

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<v Speaker 3>spider Web. But I had been a Ramdas fan already,

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<v Speaker 3>Like just if you're a hippie or you're into psychedelics,

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<v Speaker 3>you find ram Das. And I had been also just

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<v Speaker 3>a fan of the Joe Rogan podcast and Duncan was

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<v Speaker 3>a guest on there always and especially in the earlier days,

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<v Speaker 3>and he would mention Ramdas all the time. That's so cool,

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<v Speaker 3>you know that there's just like a guy on the

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<v Speaker 3>JIRI talking about ram Das. And he would talk about

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<v Speaker 3>the retreats. And one time I just sent him a

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<v Speaker 3>message on Twitter Duncan maybe like almost ten years ago now,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, Hey, I'm kind of poor, but

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<v Speaker 3>like I would love to come to these retreats. How

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<v Speaker 3>does that? How does that work? I'm a YouTuber, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>can you do something for me? And he was like,

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<v Speaker 3>just email this guy ragu and and you know, cross

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<v Speaker 3>your fingers. And I did and I ended up going

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<v Speaker 3>to a retreat and ended up in Maui meeting ram

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<v Speaker 3>Das And yeah, I don't even think Duncan knows, but

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<v Speaker 3>he's kind of this, you know, the domino that pushed

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<v Speaker 3>me in that direction.

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<v Speaker 2>That's really cool, man. He has that effect on people.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was comparing you to him, and you don't

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<v Speaker 2>know this context, but there's a little bit on our show.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been going four years now, and I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was episode fifty five. We had Duncan on and it

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<v Speaker 2>was the weirdest thing because we were like dream guests. Duncan, Trussel,

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<v Speaker 2>Dakota went, and there's several others. Some of them I've had,

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<v Speaker 2>some of them I have not. And Duncan, just I

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<v Speaker 2>swear to you, is where does it sounds? He just

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<v Speaker 2>reached out to me out of the blue and he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love to come on your show. And we were

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<v Speaker 2>like what because I had a friend of a friend

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<v Speaker 2>who was his friend and it's kind of a similar

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<v Speaker 2>how we met. But anyway, Yeah, it's just manifestations.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the universe. It's just so funny. It's just I

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<v Speaker 3>don't even know if it's manifestation. I used to believe

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<v Speaker 3>in manifestation a lot. I think there's just whatever's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>happen is meant to happen. And I think we can

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<v Speaker 3>we can use the manifestation stuff as a way to

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<v Speaker 3>try to like feel and control of the universe and

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<v Speaker 3>like we're willing it in. But there's just some giant,

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<v Speaker 3>complex network that's happening that brings people together for whatever reason.

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<v Speaker 3>And I believe it's all just pre agreed contracts from

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<v Speaker 3>some different dimension.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>You actually, man, I'm gonna I'm gonna fist bump you

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<v Speaker 3>in this life. You know, even if it's just for

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<v Speaker 3>a moment, We're gonna give that fist bump, just for remembrance.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I completely agree with that perspective, and I'm glad you

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<v Speaker 2>said that. I say manifestation, but what I mean by

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<v Speaker 2>that is just like something really strange that you've had

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<v Speaker 2>in your mind becomes true. Yeah, I'm not here, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not writing stuff down. I'm not well, actually I did write.

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<v Speaker 3>I have done that too. I'm not going to say

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<v Speaker 3>that stuff don't work because I've done that writing. I've

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<v Speaker 3>done the writing, and it definitely helps you, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like give it's like a mantra if you write something

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<v Speaker 3>down or you know, it gives your brain a framework

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<v Speaker 3>of focus. So I'm not like against that. I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>talking about the manifestation crowds out there, So I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want them to send me some voodoo or something. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>I know, reiki.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah true, And and you know that's also something I'm

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<v Speaker 2>very fascinated and but more particularly, the reason I was

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<v Speaker 2>so excited to have you on the show is because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very interested in Eastern mysticism, Eastern religion, any anything Eastern.

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<v Speaker 2>But but here's the thing, I don't really know anything

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<v Speaker 2>about it beyond a layman perspective. And uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you know, we have an expert, So I'm not.

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<v Speaker 3>An expert, but I know a little bit. And I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I like, I talk about it a lot and I

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<v Speaker 3>think about it a lot, so we can have fun

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<v Speaker 3>with the conversation. What do you like to what about

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<v Speaker 3>it is interesting to you?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the thing is like knowing what your content was before,

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<v Speaker 2>just from the outside looking in, Like this is the

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<v Speaker 2>thing that fascinates me so much about your whole thing

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<v Speaker 2>that you're doing as you were a YouTuber back in

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<v Speaker 2>the mid two thousands or like late twenty tens.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll know that because it goes back way, it goes

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<v Speaker 3>back far.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, and like from the moment I even started

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<v Speaker 2>dating my wife, she's all like, you know this YouTube channel,

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<v Speaker 2>look at this he went into Bohemian Grove, And I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, that's true. Not a lot of people know that

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<v Speaker 3>story because I deleted that video, but yeah, I've seen it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's way back in the day I went I went

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<v Speaker 3>to Bohemian Grove.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So we've been kind of tracking your evolution this

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<v Speaker 2>whole time, because you know, my wife put me onto

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<v Speaker 2>your channel. Yeah, and I noticed over the years that

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<v Speaker 2>you started going to a more spiritual direction. So like

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<v Speaker 2>from my eyes looking in, there's been this very powerful

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<v Speaker 2>evolution of your belief, of your way of life to

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<v Speaker 2>where now it's like how many months a year are

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<v Speaker 2>you in India or in Peru or in you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Papua New Guinea living with you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Almost always? Yeah, I've never I haven't read this is

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<v Speaker 3>my I've been home in Detroit now with my family

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<v Speaker 3>for like two and a half months. Is my first

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<v Speaker 3>time being home in this long for like in ten years.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>It's nice to just been like chilling and just like

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<v Speaker 3>have my bed and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But so that's my question. My question is like what

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<v Speaker 2>happened or what I want to get into the evolution

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<v Speaker 2>of of you, How how this became your life? What

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<v Speaker 2>was it about this Eastern philosophical way of life and

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<v Speaker 2>living and thinking that rained you in. There had to

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<v Speaker 2>be some glimmer of something that you said.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, there's so many moments when I go back

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<v Speaker 3>and look, you know, and the moments in those moments,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm sure you can relate, because I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>this might just be a human a human life quality.

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<v Speaker 3>But there's so many moments when I look back where

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, maybe it felt insignificant in the moment, but

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<v Speaker 3>it kind of stuck, and now I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 3>kind of go through my file cabinet, my mind and

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<v Speaker 3>my past, and I can see all the dots kind

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<v Speaker 3>of connect and all these unrelated moments that in my life.

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<v Speaker 3>When I was in the haze of it, it didn't

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<v Speaker 3>seem related. But now when I go back, I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I've always been on I've always been going in this

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<v Speaker 3>direction that I'm going. I just didn't fully have the foresight.

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<v Speaker 3>And so there's not like a single moment I can

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<v Speaker 3>pinpoint it to, but there's yeah, there's many moment. I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's always just in all our lives. I think

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<v Speaker 3>we're just destined to go in the direction that we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to go and for some reason, mine has just

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<v Speaker 3>been weird. And I I mean, really, when I look

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<v Speaker 3>back the big moments for me, I was really kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like a confused and lost, rebellious teenager atheist and

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<v Speaker 3>running away from home and very punk rock and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>just out in the streets. You know, i'd be home,

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<v Speaker 3>I'd quit school and and yeah, I was just a

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<v Speaker 3>bad kid overall. And so I see this as being

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<v Speaker 3>such a catalyst for not only like the way that

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<v Speaker 3>I traveled and helping me be in like situations and

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<v Speaker 3>stuff like that, because I'm from Detroit and we like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Detroit is kind of a rough city and

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<v Speaker 3>we it teaches you how to travel the world if

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<v Speaker 3>you if you hang out in Detroit, and that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>So like I, when I look back at that, I

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<v Speaker 3>can see how just my environment gave me the life

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<v Speaker 3>skills to navigate rough areas of like of India or

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<v Speaker 3>something like that, or Papula and New Guinea, which is

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<v Speaker 3>an insane country, very friendly people. It's not dangerous, but

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's got those stigmas. But there's little spiritual

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<v Speaker 3>moments too, Like one weird one is I remember when

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<v Speaker 3>I was in elementary school and we were all at

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<v Speaker 3>the playground. The night before, I had been in my

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<v Speaker 3>room touching my wall and just like in my head,

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<v Speaker 3>playing like a game in my head, like am I

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<v Speaker 3>touching the wall? Or is the wall touching me? And

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<v Speaker 3>I remember going to my friends and like just posing

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<v Speaker 3>this question to them, and it sounds stupid because that's

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<v Speaker 3>a stupid thing, you know, Isn't that just what the

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<v Speaker 3>what is the deep meaning in that? But I'm realizing

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<v Speaker 3>now when I look back, that these were the first

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<v Speaker 3>flashes of me inquiring into like non dual understandings and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I was beginning the process of just thinking

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<v Speaker 3>of the life. You know, am I touching that?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a weird question, but like, yeah, you're questioning reality.

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<v Speaker 3>Fact I can see like I've always had I came

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<v Speaker 3>in with that sort of thing, and I think I

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<v Speaker 3>really do at this point. I mean, I would have

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<v Speaker 3>been less confident to say this in my past, but

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<v Speaker 3>I really do believe that in reincarnation, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>that somehow our energy has habits and we have tendencies

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<v Speaker 3>and we could see it in our own life. But

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<v Speaker 3>I think these tendencies are also mental or spiritual, like

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<v Speaker 3>it's the projection. Our tendencies are actually the projection of

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<v Speaker 3>our experience. So when we die, our habits are going

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<v Speaker 3>to cling. We're going to cling to our habits, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's going to create an experience that represents our habits.

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<v Speaker 3>Because that's I think, just how consciousness works. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a really simple way to try to explain.

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<v Speaker 4>That, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know, I can't really pinpoint it to anything,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think we come in with what we come

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<v Speaker 3>in with, and our path is destined and we are

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<v Speaker 3>just you know, a karma that has happened forever ago,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're just the current domino that's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>pushed forward.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's amazing stuff, and I agree with every

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<v Speaker 2>bit of that. Admittedly I come from a very sort

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<v Speaker 2>like supernatural worldwide, like known supernatural case. Right, So when

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<v Speaker 2>answers aren't in here, but my pastor tells me every

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<v Speaker 2>answer to the universes in this book. Something's weird. Long

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<v Speaker 2>story short. As I got older and started maturing, I

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<v Speaker 2>Gnostic Christianity, a lot of more Western esoteric things. And

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<v Speaker 3>is that there is ultimately just a truth, and here

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<v Speaker 3>is a variety of methods that we that that can

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<v Speaker 3>get you there. Like the idea of yoga is not

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<v Speaker 3>stretching or the sort of things that people think about

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<v Speaker 3>in America, but the yoga means union. So the methods

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<v Speaker 3>of Yoga are the methods to become unified, to be

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<v Speaker 3>to become, to be you, to be in the union

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<v Speaker 3>with everything. So these are the here are the science

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<v Speaker 3>of unity. And there's lots of there's a yoga for

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<v Speaker 3>every type of person. The Buddha, you know, like a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people will say that the Buddha would would

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<v Speaker 3>have these contradictions, and it's because they have to speak

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<v Speaker 3>to where the they have to prescribe the medicine for

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<v Speaker 3>the for the sickness. You know, they're not every now,

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<v Speaker 3>there's not a one answer for all people. So yoga

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<v Speaker 3>core of yoga is that we're all practicing yoga no

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<v Speaker 3>matter what religion you're you're practicing it is a form

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<v Speaker 3>of connection. Yoga is not like a religious thing necessarily,

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<v Speaker 3>Like you don't have to be a Hindu to practice yoga.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just a concept. And yeah, I think the idea

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<v Speaker 3>that Hinduism or these Eastern religions are really just a

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<v Speaker 3>science of spirituality or the science of self realization. And

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<v Speaker 3>you can be you can believe in Jesus and be

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<v Speaker 3>a Hindu, or you can be an atheist and be

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<v Speaker 3>a Hindu because or you can believe in Shiva or

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<v Speaker 3>Christian or any of these gods. There's a million gods

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<v Speaker 3>that use from and they're all real. Every every truth

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<v Speaker 3>is real because God is beyond all of that. Any

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<v Speaker 3>form you give it or want to not give it is.

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<v Speaker 3>It's true in the sense that you can experience that

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<v Speaker 3>in your perspective. But the idea is that beyond all

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<v Speaker 3>of that, there is something, a more mysterious thing that's happening.

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<v Speaker 3>And these methods when you get to the beyond the

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<v Speaker 3>philosophical stuff, the experiential part that it's trying to point

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<v Speaker 3>you towards is that there's a big mystery that's hiding

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<v Speaker 3>no matter what religion you're in. And like the Hindus,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not about religion. All these things are methods. All

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<v Speaker 3>these gods, all these practices are methods. They're trying to

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<v Speaker 3>their fingers pointing to the moon. There's this have you

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<v Speaker 3>heard this idea before? Like the finger pointings to the moon.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone gets lost and get the fingers, like, look at

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm pointing to. So all of these methods are

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<v Speaker 3>pointing to the mystery behind it. All religions actually are

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<v Speaker 3>pointing to the same mystery. They're all attempts to say, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>like there's something happening that's we don't know what it is,

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<v Speaker 3>but here's the closest thing we got. It's this thing

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<v Speaker 3>in the sky and all you know, the human ideas

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<v Speaker 3>go crazy when they're confronted with the mystery. But Hinduism

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<v Speaker 3>has in Buddhism has a variety of methods that can

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<v Speaker 3>bring you into the little world experience to where you

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<v Speaker 3>can feel it, or not only feel it, but become it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think what's lacking with a lot of religions

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<v Speaker 3>like Christianity and and I wouldn't say Islam, actually I

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<v Speaker 3>bet Islam. I bet people in Islam are having deep

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<v Speaker 3>meditation experiences just based on the especially especially with especially

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<v Speaker 3>with Sufism. But I feel like Christianity really lacks it,

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<v Speaker 3>and I feel like our culture really lacks that. But

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<v Speaker 3>there are like if you talk about religious or mystical

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<v Speaker 3>experiences to normal people, it's like, you know, it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>such a shrug worthy type of thing. It's not because

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<v Speaker 3>all over the world forever, it's always been there. And

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<v Speaker 3>I've had the experience and you have had the experience,

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<v Speaker 3>so like you know, it's possible to have the experience.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think what Hinduism is trying to point to

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<v Speaker 3>is that running through all of us there is a

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<v Speaker 3>thread of the mystery. Yeah, and the Buddha is trying

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<v Speaker 3>to point He calls it the buddhahood or nirvana or

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<v Speaker 3>maksha or the enlightenment. Experience is when you realize that

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<v Speaker 3>all of this stuff that you think you were doing, Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Dakota and I have this life, I have all

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<v Speaker 3>this stuff when at the end of it is just

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<v Speaker 3>a story. You can't take your name with you. Your

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<v Speaker 3>body is just a temporary point of matter that came

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<v Speaker 3>together for a minute. But the thing that moves you

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<v Speaker 3>is always existing and it's always it's always just continuing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the infinite energy that is just It is the

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<v Speaker 3>mystery itself, and it runs through all of us. It

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't matter what religion you are, what nationality or species

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<v Speaker 3>or anything you know. It is the It is the

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<v Speaker 3>point where everything comes out of the silence, where sound emerges,

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<v Speaker 3>the zero point, the zero point. It's a shiva. That's

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<v Speaker 3>what shiva means, is this point people think is this

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<v Speaker 3>God and stuff, but Shiva is actually means this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool. That's is that why they have like the lingams

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<v Speaker 2>that are like a point.

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<v Speaker 3>Then Shiva lingham is a very interesting symbol too, because

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<v Speaker 3>these are the oldest symbols of Sheva, or one of

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<v Speaker 3>the oldest symbols of Siva is the shiva ling And

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<v Speaker 3>it's like this, Yeah, it's like this pillar that comes

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<v Speaker 3>out and it sits kind of like the UFO behind you.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of like this base thing coming out and

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<v Speaker 3>it means actually, I think I got one somewhere, No,

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<v Speaker 3>not next to me, But it means the masculine and feminine.

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<v Speaker 3>The bottom part is what's called a yoni and it

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<v Speaker 3>means a vagina. This is called the lingam. It means

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<v Speaker 3>a penis.

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<v Speaker 2>And it doesn't just mean the masculineminine.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the masculine feminine dance. It's the unity of Shiva,

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<v Speaker 3>which is the pillar, which is the stability, the foundation,

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<v Speaker 3>and the feminine, which is the creative stage in which

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<v Speaker 3>life unfolds on. So the shiveling is a symbol that

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<v Speaker 3>represents that duality in unity, the play of duality in unity.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's crazy because It's like a ten thousand year

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<v Speaker 3>old symbol, maybe even older. How are you, guys, how

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<v Speaker 3>is this philosophical depth happening at those times? You know,

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<v Speaker 3>we still aren't grasping that stuff today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know. It's absolutely insane. And I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>when you start to pull these threads, it has to

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<v Speaker 2>point to some sort of Atlantis type existence. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>get into that stuff much?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't, and I don't know if it has to

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<v Speaker 3>do with Atlantis. I think that this is just a

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<v Speaker 3>truth of reality, and I think like I think many

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<v Speaker 3>humans have tapped into it and species and I think

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<v Speaker 3>like it, I think you just tap into that. I

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<v Speaker 3>even think AI is going to bring us to that point.

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<v Speaker 3>But tell me, why do you think of why Atlantis?

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<v Speaker 2>Because if you look into the mystery schools of Western tradition,

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<v Speaker 2>and many of them are are blended with Eastern tradition, like,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, I don't know if you've heard much about

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<v Speaker 2>the Helena Blovotsky or the Theosophist or whatever, but a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of these Western schools are very ingrained with Eastern practice.

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<v Speaker 2>Long story short, you have people like the Templar Knights,

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<v Speaker 2>the Rosicrucians, obviously the Freemasons. They're the most popular, and

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<v Speaker 2>they have this bad stigma. I mean it goes on

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<v Speaker 2>and on, all these different groups that are all claiming

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<v Speaker 2>that this knowledge actually and it's all the same knowledge

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much. It's like, you know, the mystical knowledge, the

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<v Speaker 2>mystery and awakening, you know, the process of awakening, and

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<v Speaker 2>the esoteric truths. They all claim that it comes from

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<v Speaker 2>a much older version of existence, like Atlantis, some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of society before hours.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's possible, actually definitely. You know something crazy

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<v Speaker 3>that you just as you're saying this, something I was

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<v Speaker 3>looking into recently is they found Vedic gods in stones

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<v Speaker 3>written in Syria. Wow, all same names, same names, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>oh this could be. It's like, no, this is the

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<v Speaker 3>same name India. Assyria is like what the fuck?

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<v Speaker 2>There are shamanic tribes in Mexico and someone from like

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<v Speaker 2>a free Masonic lodge or or a templar night. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>they have these secret handshakes and when they meet, they

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<v Speaker 2>have the same secret handshakes and they mean the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like, how is that possible? Okay, Well it

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<v Speaker 2>goes deeper, you know. So the ideas that basically if

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<v Speaker 2>there was some sort of existence of humans that was

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<v Speaker 2>more spiritually advanced, maybe technologically all of that stuff it

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<v Speaker 2>was destroyed somehow. There's different theories about that. Obviously, will

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<v Speaker 2>probably never know the full story, but the idea is

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<v Speaker 2>that the spiritual I say, quote right, the spiritual successor

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<v Speaker 2>of Atlantis went to Tibet and then went to Egypt.

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<v Speaker 3>So a lot of people say, is Tibetan wisdom supposed

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<v Speaker 3>to be from them?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you know about Tibetan? Do you know about their

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<v Speaker 3>leg booking and a little bit? God dude, it's crazy

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit. It's so crazy. It's like they mapped

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<v Speaker 3>out the afterlife completely. And I believe it because it

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<v Speaker 3>matches the psychedelic experience to a t.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've been. I don't know if you've ever heard

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<v Speaker 2>of them in Row Institute, but.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I have. That's I think I have.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, yes, it's it's a very cool place. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>actually involved with them. They're a wonderful institution. In four days,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to certify to be a trainer with them

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<v Speaker 2>and and have the uh the position to help people

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<v Speaker 2>go through like guided meditation experiences. It's can't recommend it enough,

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<v Speaker 2>and we could talk about that later now all you

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<v Speaker 2>want whatever, But it's a wonderful place and their whole

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<v Speaker 2>thing is about going out of body m and I've

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<v Speaker 2>been out of body there many times. And after experiencing that,

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<v Speaker 2>I've come to realize, Okay, the stories from Tibet, why

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<v Speaker 2>why not levitation? You know what I mean? The out

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<v Speaker 2>of body stuff is true. The Book of the Dead

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<v Speaker 2>stuff is true. I've experienced it. I've gone out of body.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, I'm questioning everything, just you know, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Know when I had the it just sounds like I

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<v Speaker 3>almost hesitate to say it because it just sounds so

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<v Speaker 3>ridiculous to say that you've been out of body. And

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<v Speaker 3>it's so if someone would have told me this in

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<v Speaker 3>my teenage years, I would have just been like, fuck off,

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<v Speaker 3>you lunatic. You can actually have the experience, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>inesting and I've had it. I've had it with my

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<v Speaker 3>many times. Actually, I amazing, especially on psychedelics. I can

418
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<v Speaker 3>I know how to get there through a certain meditation

419
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<v Speaker 3>I can do and I can almost leave my body

420
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<v Speaker 3>one hundred percent.

421
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<v Speaker 4>Of the time.

422
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's just yeah, it has your question everything. And

423
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<v Speaker 3>then when you read these stuff that these Tibetans talk

424
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<v Speaker 3>about You're like, dude, these guys.

425
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<v Speaker 2>Are not good.

426
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

427
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's pretty wild, right, And if you talk to

428
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<v Speaker 2>somebody in a Western esoteric tradition, they will say, and

429
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<v Speaker 2>I know this because I've done I've talked to these people,

430
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<v Speaker 2>they will say that the whole point of all of it,

431
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<v Speaker 2>in the ancient past, the rituals, all of it was

432
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<v Speaker 2>about going out of body, even in the West. So

433
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<v Speaker 2>I've kind of like restructured my entire belief system to

434
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<v Speaker 2>think that that's like such an important thing. You know

435
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<v Speaker 2>that The idea is that in the ancient past they

436
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<v Speaker 2>were extremely obsessed to the point of having methodic rituals

437
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<v Speaker 2>just to go out of body to try to communicate

438
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<v Speaker 2>with God or have some sort of Actually yeah, still

439
00:23:29.680 --> 00:23:32.559
<v Speaker 2>of course, but even crazier when you think about back then,

440
00:23:32.640 --> 00:23:34.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, so, yeah.

441
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<v Speaker 3>It is crazy that it's just been maintained. Yeah, I mean,

442
00:23:38.400 --> 00:23:40.599
<v Speaker 3>the idea of like this ancient laws civilization's fun. I

443
00:23:40.640 --> 00:23:44.039
<v Speaker 3>don't know if it's necessary because I think, like, I

444
00:23:44.039 --> 00:23:46.200
<v Speaker 3>think humans are just tapped in somehow, dude, we just

445
00:23:46.240 --> 00:23:48.440
<v Speaker 3>have like some we're like in that we're in a

446
00:23:48.480 --> 00:23:51.319
<v Speaker 3>limbo of evolution where we're like half in the spirit world,

447
00:23:51.440 --> 00:23:54.160
<v Speaker 3>half in the human world. Yeah, if you look around,

448
00:23:54.279 --> 00:23:56.799
<v Speaker 3>I mean obviously we look around in nothing here we

449
00:23:56.799 --> 00:24:00.000
<v Speaker 3>can relate to. We're clearly on a different fucking trajectory

450
00:24:00.039 --> 00:24:03.240
<v Speaker 3>and the rest of these animals everything's on instinct. We

451
00:24:03.559 --> 00:24:06.920
<v Speaker 3>are just there's things that are similar. You know, maybe

452
00:24:06.960 --> 00:24:10.160
<v Speaker 3>ants build little societies, humans built, but like it's just

453
00:24:10.200 --> 00:24:15.160
<v Speaker 3>not the same. They think, you say, what do you say?

454
00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:19.000
<v Speaker 2>They think there's they think yeah, and they don't have

455
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<v Speaker 2>much reasoning past that. They're they're animals and they're beautiful, wonderful.

456
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<v Speaker 3>We do that too, but we we also have the

457
00:24:26.319 --> 00:24:31.160
<v Speaker 3>we have the choice, right, we have choice. Yeah, and

458
00:24:31.160 --> 00:24:33.079
<v Speaker 3>that's so weird because what the fuck is that? How

459
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<v Speaker 3>does that happen?

460
00:24:34.559 --> 00:24:35.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

461
00:24:35.119 --> 00:24:36.720
<v Speaker 3>And here we are. We just are like the only

462
00:24:36.799 --> 00:24:39.759
<v Speaker 3>thing on this planet that that's in a situation where

463
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<v Speaker 3>it can question it situation. It's almost like a cosmic joke.

464
00:24:43.000 --> 00:24:45.240
<v Speaker 3>It's like you just wake up and no one knows.

465
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<v Speaker 3>It's like, come on, what is this a bit?

466
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<v Speaker 4>You know?

467
00:24:48.680 --> 00:24:50.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, I can promise you, Jakota that on this show

468
00:24:50.960 --> 00:24:54.599
<v Speaker 2>you are very well believed and it is not weird

469
00:24:54.640 --> 00:24:56.079
<v Speaker 2>to talk about out of body experiences.

470
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we can talk about them.

471
00:24:57.319 --> 00:25:00.000
<v Speaker 2>We got to talk about them, so yeah, I gotta hear.

472
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<v Speaker 4>Well.

473
00:25:00.839 --> 00:25:02.680
<v Speaker 3>The first time I had one, it was on LSD

474
00:25:03.200 --> 00:25:06.000
<v Speaker 3>and MDMA together. I was like twenty two years old,

475
00:25:06.599 --> 00:25:09.799
<v Speaker 3>and I it was like overwhelming. So I was like

476
00:25:09.920 --> 00:25:12.079
<v Speaker 3>left to be away by myself and I went and

477
00:25:12.119 --> 00:25:15.839
<v Speaker 3>late in the room and I instantly started like projecting

478
00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:18.039
<v Speaker 3>out of body and having all these different visions of

479
00:25:18.839 --> 00:25:21.640
<v Speaker 3>potential scenarios. Some of them were good, some of them

480
00:25:21.680 --> 00:25:24.559
<v Speaker 3>were bad, and there was like flashing and completely immersive,

481
00:25:25.079 --> 00:25:27.400
<v Speaker 3>like maybe like a real day dream. I wouldn't say

482
00:25:27.400 --> 00:25:29.359
<v Speaker 3>I was out of body yet, but I was fully

483
00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:33.359
<v Speaker 3>captured by my like the hypnosis of my visions. I

484
00:25:33.400 --> 00:25:35.920
<v Speaker 3>was like scared when I was scared and really feeling it.

485
00:25:36.680 --> 00:25:39.200
<v Speaker 3>But then after that I kind of broke through, Like

486
00:25:39.319 --> 00:25:41.920
<v Speaker 3>once I was able to like calm myself down, I

487
00:25:42.039 --> 00:25:46.680
<v Speaker 3>broke through and it was like it was like I

488
00:25:46.759 --> 00:25:49.799
<v Speaker 3>was in every part of the room. It wasn't like

489
00:25:49.839 --> 00:25:51.759
<v Speaker 3>I was out of my body and I was floating around,

490
00:25:51.839 --> 00:25:56.599
<v Speaker 3>but it was as if my consciousness just like like

491
00:25:57.440 --> 00:26:00.200
<v Speaker 3>popped out of my body and it just encompassed everything.

492
00:26:00.440 --> 00:26:03.519
<v Speaker 3>It expanded, yeah, expanded, because I hear some people talk

493
00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:05.480
<v Speaker 3>about like I've came out of my body and I

494
00:26:05.519 --> 00:26:08.880
<v Speaker 3>went out of the roof, and like I didn't really

495
00:26:08.920 --> 00:26:10.440
<v Speaker 3>have that. It was just like if I wanted to

496
00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:12.279
<v Speaker 3>go out of the roof, I could just go there.

497
00:26:12.319 --> 00:26:14.279
<v Speaker 3>But it wasn't like I was floating around. It was

498
00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:19.880
<v Speaker 3>just like, uh, it's not thing, so you can't say it,

499
00:26:19.920 --> 00:26:23.079
<v Speaker 3>but it's just this Yeah, I don't know, you just

500
00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:23.640
<v Speaker 3>become it.

501
00:26:24.240 --> 00:26:27.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, it's like there's a there's a shift in

502
00:26:27.599 --> 00:26:31.960
<v Speaker 2>your your perspective. I've had things like that too, where

503
00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:34.240
<v Speaker 2>it's like I'm laying there, I'm meditating and then all

504
00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:38.759
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, it's like I'm seeing from behind my head,

505
00:26:39.000 --> 00:26:41.480
<v Speaker 2>Like whoa, what the heck? Yeah, you don't always just

506
00:26:41.480 --> 00:26:43.079
<v Speaker 2>float out of your body and go through the wall

507
00:26:43.119 --> 00:26:45.480
<v Speaker 2>like Casper. Yeah people do that.

508
00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:46.680
<v Speaker 3>I've heard people do that.

509
00:26:46.920 --> 00:26:48.759
<v Speaker 2>I know what you mean because I've experienced this.

510
00:26:49.400 --> 00:26:52.519
<v Speaker 3>It's just like the boundaries completely dissolve and you're just

511
00:26:53.480 --> 00:26:55.279
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it sounds cheesy to say one with everything,

512
00:26:55.319 --> 00:26:57.640
<v Speaker 3>but you kind of just like are you just become

513
00:26:57.680 --> 00:27:00.359
<v Speaker 3>one with everything? And I had this experience I was

514
00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:03.559
<v Speaker 3>in like what I guess is the akashak records because

515
00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:06.640
<v Speaker 3>I could think of anything and immediately understand it.

516
00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:08.359
<v Speaker 2>Wow, I don't know.

517
00:27:08.359 --> 00:27:12.359
<v Speaker 3>I mean that sounds crazy, but not really. Uh. I

518
00:27:12.519 --> 00:27:16.079
<v Speaker 3>was just like I don't even fully remember what I

519
00:27:16.160 --> 00:27:19.039
<v Speaker 3>was asking, which is the craziest part. When you have

520
00:27:19.119 --> 00:27:22.079
<v Speaker 3>these like crazy psychedelic experiences, You'll have the whole universe

521
00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:23.839
<v Speaker 3>showed to you, and then you have to come back

522
00:27:23.839 --> 00:27:26.279
<v Speaker 3>and like ripe, wipe your drool and can't remember anything.

523
00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:28.640
<v Speaker 3>It's like cosmic joke again.

524
00:27:29.319 --> 00:27:30.920
<v Speaker 2>But no, that's amazing, man.

525
00:27:31.240 --> 00:27:32.960
<v Speaker 3>That was my first time. And then after that, I

526
00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:36.079
<v Speaker 3>was like just really scratching my head, like what the hell.

527
00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:39.400
<v Speaker 3>No one's talking about this, Like how everyone's because I

528
00:27:39.400 --> 00:27:41.640
<v Speaker 3>was at a party. Everyone's out here on acid. Everyone's

529
00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:44.839
<v Speaker 3>just like, what the hell I'm in the Akashak records

530
00:27:44.839 --> 00:27:47.039
<v Speaker 3>and you guys are like out there listening to whatever

531
00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:51.200
<v Speaker 3>drake or something and it's I don't know. It really

532
00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:55.440
<v Speaker 3>threw me down a chain of events because I just

533
00:27:55.559 --> 00:27:58.559
<v Speaker 3>seek answers and none of none of my friends, they

534
00:27:58.559 --> 00:28:00.720
<v Speaker 3>were like, dude, you were just high. It was like nah, dude,

535
00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:03.359
<v Speaker 3>it was something different. This is not just being high.

536
00:28:03.400 --> 00:28:08.160
<v Speaker 3>I like experience. I had like a spiritual experience. And yeah,

537
00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:12.640
<v Speaker 3>those moments were really me in the stove, you know,

538
00:28:13.359 --> 00:28:15.920
<v Speaker 3>that were leading me to having going to India. And

539
00:28:16.480 --> 00:28:19.960
<v Speaker 3>these these experiences are what led me to India. Wow,

540
00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:23.759
<v Speaker 3>because I was like, how are these guys talking about

541
00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:26.359
<v Speaker 3>it in India? There's no acid in India, there's no

542
00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:29.119
<v Speaker 3>mushrooms in India. How are these guys getting to this stuff?

543
00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:30.599
<v Speaker 3>Because when you read the books like the Back of

544
00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:35.200
<v Speaker 3>Ahito or the Apanashads, it says the same exact experience

545
00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:37.599
<v Speaker 3>that we're talking about, like these out of body experiences

546
00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:40.240
<v Speaker 3>and how to achieve them and what they mean. And

547
00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:43.319
<v Speaker 3>it's a whole science of this stuff. And yeah, I

548
00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:46.559
<v Speaker 3>mean India, as far as I can tell, is the

549
00:28:46.599 --> 00:28:51.039
<v Speaker 3>most in depth living shamanic religion on the planet. And

550
00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:55.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean they're they're using not only plants, they're using

551
00:28:55.559 --> 00:28:58.039
<v Speaker 3>dead bodies, not all of them, of course, very rare

552
00:28:58.079 --> 00:29:01.720
<v Speaker 3>to see that, but the whole spect of magical potential

553
00:29:01.799 --> 00:29:04.240
<v Speaker 3>is happening and thriving and alive in India.

554
00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:07.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm very curious to hear about some of that because

555
00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:11.519
<v Speaker 2>I know you've had so much firsthand experience, Like let's

556
00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:13.680
<v Speaker 2>just get into that, Like, what's some of the crazy

557
00:29:13.720 --> 00:29:15.359
<v Speaker 2>magical stuff that you've seen.

558
00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:18.519
<v Speaker 3>Magical in which way.

559
00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, like you said, the shamanic, like you've you've seen

560
00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:23.240
<v Speaker 2>that they do rituals with things like that bodies or

561
00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:26.079
<v Speaker 2>with plants, or I've seen some of your videos where

562
00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:31.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, obviously a lot of cannabis that's always like Gandra, yeah, ganza,

563
00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:37.240
<v Speaker 2>just any of that kind of stuff. I'm curious about you.

564
00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:38.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm really aperience with that.

565
00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:41.799
<v Speaker 3>I really wanted to have that experience of the Guru

566
00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:46.200
<v Speaker 3>where he touches you and on the mountaintop, and but

567
00:29:46.279 --> 00:29:49.039
<v Speaker 3>it never happened. And I tried everything. I was like, man,

568
00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:51.559
<v Speaker 3>where these guys that can read your mind and are levitating?

569
00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:54.720
<v Speaker 3>And I looked for years and years and years and

570
00:29:54.799 --> 00:29:56.960
<v Speaker 3>I did everything I could. I still have never found

571
00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:01.200
<v Speaker 3>those types of guys, but I did guys that meditate

572
00:30:01.240 --> 00:30:06.160
<v Speaker 3>on top of dead bodies, particularly this guy Mani Kundin.

573
00:30:06.359 --> 00:30:10.720
<v Speaker 3>Baba is his name. Baba is like it's like a

574
00:30:10.759 --> 00:30:13.200
<v Speaker 3>respectful title. In India. Baba g is like what you

575
00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:16.920
<v Speaker 3>call older people or holy men. In India. Baba is

576
00:30:16.920 --> 00:30:19.680
<v Speaker 3>like someone that has wisdom, and so we call all

577
00:30:20.079 --> 00:30:22.119
<v Speaker 3>these holy men are called Baba, even if they're younger

578
00:30:23.319 --> 00:30:27.079
<v Speaker 3>and so Mani Kundin Baba, he's a Sagori from South

579
00:30:27.119 --> 00:30:29.039
<v Speaker 3>India and he does all these kind of things. He's

580
00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:32.559
<v Speaker 3>covered in the dead ash And what's the a goory?

581
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:36.640
<v Speaker 3>So a gory is in Hinduism is very complex. But

582
00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:39.839
<v Speaker 3>there's lots of different belief systems in Hinduism. I guess

583
00:30:39.880 --> 00:30:41.799
<v Speaker 3>you could kind of relate it to like a Dalasism

584
00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:45.839
<v Speaker 3>or Baptists or Protestants, right, something like that, but it's

585
00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:49.960
<v Speaker 3>a little bit maybe even the extremes are more in India,

586
00:30:50.559 --> 00:30:52.720
<v Speaker 3>like you can have totally different beliefs like not even

587
00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:54.960
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't even seem like the same thing, and it's

588
00:30:55.000 --> 00:30:59.400
<v Speaker 3>all still under the same umbrella. And so these guys,

589
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:05.000
<v Speaker 3>this guy meditated on his own mom's body. Oh sorry,

590
00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:07.799
<v Speaker 3>So the agory is a big history. But the agory

591
00:31:09.119 --> 00:31:13.759
<v Speaker 3>are what are called like countric practitioners. They do the

592
00:31:13.920 --> 00:31:18.000
<v Speaker 3>very taboo stuff. And the idea is that you don't

593
00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:20.240
<v Speaker 3>get in their ideas that they're not trying to reach

594
00:31:20.359 --> 00:31:25.119
<v Speaker 3>enlightenment through i don't know, helping old women across the

595
00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:28.200
<v Speaker 3>road or feeding people. They're trying to get enlightenment through

596
00:31:28.400 --> 00:31:31.960
<v Speaker 3>cutting the head off the ego completely by doing the

597
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:35.079
<v Speaker 3>most disgusting things, the things that you would be repulsed by.

598
00:31:35.400 --> 00:31:38.559
<v Speaker 3>They're diving into it intentionally because that's where the juice

599
00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:41.240
<v Speaker 3>of the of the karma is, because that's where you're

600
00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:43.680
<v Speaker 3>clinging to. So they're going there and cutting all the

601
00:31:43.759 --> 00:31:49.119
<v Speaker 3>chains off, completely dissociating with society. They walk naked, they

602
00:31:49.160 --> 00:31:51.279
<v Speaker 3>cover themselves in the ash of dead people, so they're

603
00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:56.359
<v Speaker 3>all like white. They usually have crazy hair, sometimes skulls.

604
00:31:57.160 --> 00:31:59.160
<v Speaker 3>Most of them are bullshit. Most of them you find

605
00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:02.759
<v Speaker 3>are bullshit, but some of them are not bullshit. And

606
00:32:03.039 --> 00:32:04.920
<v Speaker 3>some of them do crazy stuff like this, like, you know,

607
00:32:05.039 --> 00:32:08.200
<v Speaker 3>meditate on your own mom's body and the idea is

608
00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:14.720
<v Speaker 3>that he was trying to pray for her ashi transforms

609
00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:18.480
<v Speaker 3>into her next experience. It's right, yeah, but it's shocking

610
00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:20.920
<v Speaker 3>to everybody, even to people you they're like, oh, you know,

611
00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:25.720
<v Speaker 3>black magic. And so I've done a lot of crazy

612
00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:28.839
<v Speaker 3>stuff with these guys. Animal sacrifices. I don't participate, well,

613
00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:32.319
<v Speaker 3>sometimes I do, but I usually just watch. I don't

614
00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:34.039
<v Speaker 3>kill any animals myself or anything like that, but I've

615
00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:37.839
<v Speaker 3>watched these guys kill animals. I've watched these guys do extracisms.

616
00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:42.799
<v Speaker 3>I've watched these guys uh wear skulls of human heads.

617
00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:44.720
<v Speaker 3>You know What's one time we were in what was

618
00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:48.720
<v Speaker 3>called Kamakia, one of these most famous un trick temples

619
00:32:48.720 --> 00:32:52.400
<v Speaker 3>in India. Uh, maybe even two thousand years old or something,

620
00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:57.519
<v Speaker 3>very ancient temple and still today they're maintaining the tantra practice.

621
00:32:57.559 --> 00:33:00.160
<v Speaker 3>There more like this type of stuff.

622
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:02.400
<v Speaker 2>Like the glory kind of the shocking stuff.

623
00:33:03.319 --> 00:33:05.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sometimes it's sometimes it's very shocking, sometimes it's not.

624
00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:08.640
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes it's peaceful, but there there is moments where it

625
00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:11.440
<v Speaker 3>gets really intent and especially like festival times. Like if

626
00:33:11.440 --> 00:33:13.039
<v Speaker 3>you went during the day, maybe it just was a

627
00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:16.000
<v Speaker 3>normal temple. But during the festivals and stuff like when

628
00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:19.440
<v Speaker 3>the goddesses come alive and there in their beliefs and stuff,

629
00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:23.440
<v Speaker 3>all the crazy shit happens, and we were there for

630
00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:26.519
<v Speaker 3>the big festival of the temple. Uh. This is there's

631
00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:28.599
<v Speaker 3>an idea in Hinduism, just to give a little backstory,

632
00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:31.799
<v Speaker 3>where Satti Shiva's wife, she fell to earth or corpse,

633
00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:34.920
<v Speaker 3>she died, and they built temples where different body parts

634
00:33:34.920 --> 00:33:37.880
<v Speaker 3>felt fell. This is where her vagina fell. So it's

635
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:42.559
<v Speaker 3>like super holy and in the summertime, the monsoon makes

636
00:33:42.599 --> 00:33:45.519
<v Speaker 3>the river turn red, so they believe it for menstruating.

637
00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:47.920
<v Speaker 3>So they go here and they sacrifice animals and they

638
00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:52.119
<v Speaker 3>do blood rituals. And I met this this guy Mani

639
00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:54.039
<v Speaker 3>Kuanden baba there. I had met him already, but I

640
00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:57.359
<v Speaker 3>just was like meeting him here. And I walk up

641
00:33:57.359 --> 00:33:59.839
<v Speaker 3>there and he's doing an exorcism at the temple. There's

642
00:33:59.839 --> 00:34:02.400
<v Speaker 3>like a guy freaking out and he's like.

643
00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:04.960
<v Speaker 2>We were just talking about this at dinner. By the way,

644
00:34:05.079 --> 00:34:07.359
<v Speaker 2>one of your exorcism videos, but I have not seen it.

645
00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:09.440
<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to say, we were just talking about this.

646
00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:12.800
<v Speaker 3>It seems to be pretty normal in India, these extorcisms.

647
00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:15.920
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, so we walked up on an extracism. Oh shit, dude,

648
00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:17.719
<v Speaker 3>it's gonna be crazy. It's gonna be a crazy night.

649
00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:21.000
<v Speaker 3>Just this how it's starting off. And they're all preparing

650
00:34:21.079 --> 00:34:23.039
<v Speaker 3>because a lot of these baba's they come to show

651
00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:27.119
<v Speaker 3>off at all the festivals, you know, like right meditating

652
00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:29.920
<v Speaker 3>with my skulls and I'm covered in that. People come,

653
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:33.119
<v Speaker 3>you know, really you know, sneak up and get their

654
00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:37.039
<v Speaker 3>blessings and get donations or something. It's old business. But

655
00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:39.719
<v Speaker 3>they were preparing for the festival and they had this

656
00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:44.719
<v Speaker 3>skull necklace and they were putting lemons in the eyes.

657
00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:48.639
<v Speaker 3>It looked all scary. The skull was all red, yeah,

658
00:34:48.679 --> 00:34:50.760
<v Speaker 3>in the skull eyes like for its eyeballs, like pushing

659
00:34:50.840 --> 00:34:53.400
<v Speaker 3>lemons into the eyes where the person used to see.

660
00:34:54.280 --> 00:34:57.559
<v Speaker 3>And I walked up. I was like, Hey, what is

661
00:34:57.639 --> 00:35:00.559
<v Speaker 3>the meaning of all this stuff? And and I was

662
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:03.400
<v Speaker 3>like what is this? Like the eyes like this lemons

663
00:35:03.559 --> 00:35:06.679
<v Speaker 3>And the guy just looks at me and he goes,

664
00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:11.000
<v Speaker 3>it just looks cool. It does look cool, I'll give

665
00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:15.360
<v Speaker 3>you that. So it's not always a lot of these

666
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:19.400
<v Speaker 3>agories are not always like, you know, really getting it.

667
00:35:19.599 --> 00:35:21.079
<v Speaker 3>You know, there's a lot of Sometimes there's a lot

668
00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:24.840
<v Speaker 3>of show. Yeah, like like a theater, it's a lot

669
00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:27.760
<v Speaker 3>of theater. It's a lot of showing off and h

670
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:32.880
<v Speaker 3>But I knew this when I was hanging out with

671
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:35.239
<v Speaker 3>these guys, you know, you can kind of tell. And

672
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:38.119
<v Speaker 3>there was a one guy in the corner and I

673
00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:39.960
<v Speaker 3>walked up to him with my camera, all kind of

674
00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:45.599
<v Speaker 3>arrogant YouTuber and I start talking to him and I

675
00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:47.880
<v Speaker 3>don't even I don't even remember what he said, but

676
00:35:48.039 --> 00:35:51.199
<v Speaker 3>he just this guy is the only guy I've ever

677
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:54.800
<v Speaker 3>met who has the ability to suck the air out

678
00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:58.360
<v Speaker 3>of the room and like suspend you in a moment

679
00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:00.360
<v Speaker 3>like we're talking about like going out of body. It's

680
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:02.800
<v Speaker 3>almost like he brings you to that point right before

681
00:36:03.320 --> 00:36:03.960
<v Speaker 3>where it's.

682
00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:08.239
<v Speaker 2>Like everyone's listening. Yeah, and I.

683
00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:10.360
<v Speaker 3>Don't know how he does it, but I've been talking

684
00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:12.719
<v Speaker 3>to this guy now and visiting him for about five years.

685
00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:15.079
<v Speaker 3>His name is Bivani Baba. He's also in a gory

686
00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:18.840
<v Speaker 3>and he was happened to be here because he's interested

687
00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:21.199
<v Speaker 3>in that stuff and this is lifestyle he follows. But

688
00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:23.360
<v Speaker 3>he doesn't wear the skulls and he doesn't cover himself

689
00:36:23.360 --> 00:36:27.280
<v Speaker 3>in the ash. And we were just talking and somehow

690
00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:29.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what he did, but he like casts

691
00:36:29.239 --> 00:36:31.000
<v Speaker 3>a spell on me or something and is able to

692
00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:33.599
<v Speaker 3>give me like a spiritual experience just through his just

693
00:36:33.639 --> 00:36:36.039
<v Speaker 3>through his talking. Because a lot of Abas they talk

694
00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:37.840
<v Speaker 3>a lot of shit and they say the same things

695
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:39.079
<v Speaker 3>and it's like oneness.

696
00:36:39.119 --> 00:36:41.039
<v Speaker 2>And that was your guru moment.

697
00:36:41.960 --> 00:36:44.199
<v Speaker 3>Here's a guru moment a little bit. Yeah, that was

698
00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:49.360
<v Speaker 3>that was it? Yeah, well he yeah, I don't know

699
00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:51.000
<v Speaker 3>if i'd call him guru. Guru is a big thing,

700
00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:52.440
<v Speaker 3>but he's definitely my biggest teacher.

701
00:36:53.239 --> 00:36:56.400
<v Speaker 2>And I just mean like metaphorically, there was a real

702
00:36:56.440 --> 00:36:58.800
<v Speaker 2>transference of spiritual power for me for sure.

703
00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:01.360
<v Speaker 3>When they talk about when I talk about transmitting power

704
00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:05.039
<v Speaker 3>in India, I believe it because of that experience.

705
00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:06.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

706
00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:08.760
<v Speaker 3>And I've been visiting this guy now for like five years,

707
00:37:08.840 --> 00:37:12.400
<v Speaker 3>and he told me the secret of the agory. And

708
00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:14.400
<v Speaker 3>he said, the secret of the Agori, all these guys

709
00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:16.639
<v Speaker 3>that are meditating on the dead bodies and wearing the

710
00:37:16.679 --> 00:37:20.719
<v Speaker 3>skulls are missing the point completely, and that the truth

711
00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:26.039
<v Speaker 3>of agore a gory is that you yourself become the

712
00:37:26.079 --> 00:37:30.079
<v Speaker 3>dead body that you you are, everything you have, you

713
00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:33.519
<v Speaker 3>sacrifice to God. That's the true meaning. Everyone's confused and

714
00:37:33.559 --> 00:37:36.000
<v Speaker 3>they're using these dead bodies trying to get powers and

715
00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:36.559
<v Speaker 3>all this stuff.

716
00:37:36.599 --> 00:37:39.199
<v Speaker 2>They're playing with props. Yeah, they're just yeah, they're missing

717
00:37:39.199 --> 00:37:39.599
<v Speaker 2>the post.

718
00:37:40.599 --> 00:37:45.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I was like, I get it. I feel

719
00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:47.880
<v Speaker 3>like I understood a gory in that moment. Like it's

720
00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:50.440
<v Speaker 3>not some shocking thing which is that you're gonna find

721
00:37:50.440 --> 00:37:53.719
<v Speaker 3>on YouTube and stuff, but actually it's it's trying to

722
00:37:54.239 --> 00:37:57.599
<v Speaker 3>point you that you're actually already dead. You are already

723
00:37:57.599 --> 00:37:59.639
<v Speaker 3>a dead body and you don't even know it. This

724
00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:02.119
<v Speaker 3>whole thing that you're living right now is an illusion,

725
00:38:02.760 --> 00:38:06.400
<v Speaker 3>and little by little you're gonna realize that you're already

726
00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:08.400
<v Speaker 3>dead and everything that you see around you is gonna

727
00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:11.199
<v Speaker 3>be taken. So these guys jump into the fire. This

728
00:38:11.239 --> 00:38:15.440
<v Speaker 3>guy jumps into the fire. And just to give an example,

729
00:38:16.840 --> 00:38:18.719
<v Speaker 3>this is another moment that kind of like made me

730
00:38:18.840 --> 00:38:20.320
<v Speaker 3>kind of step and look at him in a weird way.

731
00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:23.000
<v Speaker 3>Was I brought my friends to meet him, and we

732
00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:27.199
<v Speaker 3>were sitting around a fire, and my friend has a

733
00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:30.199
<v Speaker 3>step son who got stabbed and had to like pee

734
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:32.559
<v Speaker 3>out of a thing, out of a bag or something,

735
00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:36.920
<v Speaker 3>and he was just sharing this story. And as he's sharing,

736
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:40.920
<v Speaker 3>Bivanni leans next to me and like not saying it

737
00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:42.880
<v Speaker 3>out loud, but just saying it to me, and he goes,

738
00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:46.000
<v Speaker 3>the difference between me and him is that if I

739
00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:50.079
<v Speaker 3>had a son and he died, I wouldn't even nothing

740
00:38:50.159 --> 00:38:53.880
<v Speaker 3>in my inner world would change. He said, my thinking

741
00:38:54.920 --> 00:38:58.079
<v Speaker 3>is fire and his ash. I don't even know what

742
00:38:58.119 --> 00:39:00.440
<v Speaker 3>that meant in that mole. Oh my god, dude, the fuck.

743
00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:04.880
<v Speaker 3>But basically what he's saying is like the inside, his

744
00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:08.599
<v Speaker 3>inside is the pillar. It's the stability. There's no wavering

745
00:39:08.639 --> 00:39:11.880
<v Speaker 3>of emotions of what's gonna happen in this world. He's

746
00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:14.599
<v Speaker 3>like seeing he's and he always tells me this. He goes,

747
00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:18.960
<v Speaker 3>You're always here, You're doing ayahuasca, you're doing the toad,

748
00:39:19.039 --> 00:39:21.880
<v Speaker 3>you're doing yoga. And he always tells me that I'm

749
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:25.719
<v Speaker 3>a I'm an arrow with no target. Yeah, And when

750
00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:28.079
<v Speaker 3>I'm with him, I see that he is a target

751
00:39:28.159 --> 00:39:31.679
<v Speaker 3>through through through everything he does. He never falters. I've

752
00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:34.480
<v Speaker 3>spent months with him and every day it's just like

753
00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:39.119
<v Speaker 3>the same static buzz and I've I've never experienced that

754
00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:41.840
<v Speaker 3>with any other of these yogis in India. He's the

755
00:39:41.880 --> 00:39:44.199
<v Speaker 3>closest thing I've I've got.

756
00:39:44.440 --> 00:39:47.840
<v Speaker 2>And I think it's funny that he's not I mean,

757
00:39:47.880 --> 00:39:49.000
<v Speaker 2>he's not a guru.

758
00:39:48.760 --> 00:39:51.159
<v Speaker 3>Right yeah, well yeah, he's not a guru. He's just

759
00:39:51.239 --> 00:39:51.800
<v Speaker 3>kind of a guy.

760
00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, but.

761
00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:56.079
<v Speaker 3>He's doing these practices and stuff. But he doesn't have

762
00:39:56.159 --> 00:39:57.280
<v Speaker 3>like followers or anything.

763
00:39:57.480 --> 00:39:59.760
<v Speaker 2>But he's like, you know, don't care about the label.

764
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:03.440
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, definitely he would he would like he would kind

765
00:40:03.440 --> 00:40:05.320
<v Speaker 3>of cringe if I said he was my guru.

766
00:40:05.679 --> 00:40:08.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think that that's how when it's real

767
00:40:08.199 --> 00:40:11.440
<v Speaker 2>that I believe that's how it works. Yeah, it's real.

768
00:40:11.559 --> 00:40:13.639
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's like more punk rock, like who cares

769
00:40:13.679 --> 00:40:16.559
<v Speaker 2>about the label? But you know, he's he's a spiritual guy.

770
00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:18.480
<v Speaker 2>I know. I've met so many people like that. I've

771
00:40:18.480 --> 00:40:20.719
<v Speaker 2>been so blessed to meet people like that. And it's

772
00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:23.360
<v Speaker 2>an amazing thing when you meet someone who who you

773
00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:25.840
<v Speaker 2>feel like I felt like an arrow with no target

774
00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:30.719
<v Speaker 2>for so long. Yeah, and it's fun if you hit

775
00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:32.960
<v Speaker 2>a point where you want some guidance and it's like, yeah,

776
00:40:33.239 --> 00:40:34.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, I totally resonate with that.

777
00:40:35.679 --> 00:40:38.239
<v Speaker 3>It's so true because like I mean, at some point,

778
00:40:38.320 --> 00:40:40.880
<v Speaker 3>you just gotta you gotta move forward. And if you're

779
00:40:41.079 --> 00:40:43.599
<v Speaker 3>going in every direction, yeah, it's fun. The buffet is nice,

780
00:40:43.599 --> 00:40:46.800
<v Speaker 3>but like you know, yeah, you just get fat and

781
00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:47.920
<v Speaker 3>you don't really have it.

782
00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:51.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I love that. And the discipline too, the the

783
00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:58.119
<v Speaker 2>the ability or rather the the the importance of having

784
00:40:58.159 --> 00:41:01.559
<v Speaker 2>discipline to a path or to some sort of practice.

785
00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:03.400
<v Speaker 3>I think just learning it it's crazy.

786
00:41:03.800 --> 00:41:07.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's crucial and it's it's life changing. I'm curious

787
00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:10.320
<v Speaker 2>about some of your psychedelic experiences.

788
00:41:11.400 --> 00:41:12.400
<v Speaker 3>Got a ton of them.

789
00:41:12.679 --> 00:41:16.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, let me reframe the question. Then, how about

790
00:41:16.320 --> 00:41:20.079
<v Speaker 2>some of your most meaningful psychedelic experiences.

791
00:41:21.320 --> 00:41:23.000
<v Speaker 3>You know. Really, I feel like my first one was

792
00:41:23.039 --> 00:41:27.679
<v Speaker 3>so meaningful. I took mushrooms with at the time was

793
00:41:27.679 --> 00:41:29.559
<v Speaker 3>my girlfriend, and I didn't know about mushrooms. I was

794
00:41:29.639 --> 00:41:31.440
<v Speaker 3>very punk rock straight as I was kind of against

795
00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:33.360
<v Speaker 3>all drugs. I didn't smoke weed or do anything until

796
00:41:33.360 --> 00:41:35.679
<v Speaker 3>I was like twenty or twenty one, never drink out cohoric.

797
00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:36.719
<v Speaker 3>I still don't drink out cohol.

798
00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And.

799
00:41:40.320 --> 00:41:42.599
<v Speaker 3>She was like, let's take some mushrooms and I was like, okay,

800
00:41:42.800 --> 00:41:47.599
<v Speaker 3>I'll try it. And I had I'm kind of already

801
00:41:47.639 --> 00:41:49.360
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of a hippie at this point, and

802
00:41:49.400 --> 00:41:51.280
<v Speaker 3>I think I am smoking weed at this point. And

803
00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:55.559
<v Speaker 3>she gives it to me and we take it. It's

804
00:41:55.559 --> 00:41:57.840
<v Speaker 3>just casual chilling in the living room, you know, listening

805
00:41:57.840 --> 00:42:01.079
<v Speaker 3>to music. And we decided to go outside and I

806
00:42:01.159 --> 00:42:03.199
<v Speaker 3>walk outside and it's just like the first time I

807
00:42:03.280 --> 00:42:06.000
<v Speaker 3>ever opened my eyes. I mean, anyone that's taking a

808
00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:08.599
<v Speaker 3>psychedelic you know that feeling it? Yeah, Wow, everything is

809
00:42:08.639 --> 00:42:11.400
<v Speaker 3>so beautiful. How have I been walking through life and

810
00:42:11.480 --> 00:42:15.440
<v Speaker 3>I didn't see the beauty? How is it held together?

811
00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:18.239
<v Speaker 3>What is this beauty? How is it happening? This is

812
00:42:18.280 --> 00:42:19.880
<v Speaker 3>just here? I can just eat a mushroom and I

813
00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:24.079
<v Speaker 3>just all of a sudden, the beauty is revealed. And yeah,

814
00:42:24.440 --> 00:42:26.920
<v Speaker 3>it was a very spiritual experience for me too, where

815
00:42:26.920 --> 00:42:29.199
<v Speaker 3>I was just like, damn, you know this is so

816
00:42:29.559 --> 00:42:31.679
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know. It was the first time I really

817
00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:36.079
<v Speaker 3>thought spiritual things in such a profound way, not quite

818
00:42:36.119 --> 00:42:39.079
<v Speaker 3>like that, but feeling it in a way where it's

819
00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:41.039
<v Speaker 3>like a altered state.

820
00:42:41.559 --> 00:42:41.719
<v Speaker 4>You know.

821
00:42:41.760 --> 00:42:44.199
<v Speaker 3>It was my first altered state experience where I'm like, damn,

822
00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:47.519
<v Speaker 3>it's the spiritual is not just like some idea or

823
00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:50.840
<v Speaker 3>nice fuzzy feeling you get, but it's actually beyond the

824
00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:54.639
<v Speaker 3>body and it's an experiential thing on many dimensional layers.

825
00:42:55.119 --> 00:42:58.760
<v Speaker 3>And that was my first like confrontation with that, and

826
00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:02.639
<v Speaker 3>from there a big journey, you know. I ended up

827
00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:05.599
<v Speaker 3>living in Peru for a while. I got stuck there

828
00:43:05.639 --> 00:43:09.440
<v Speaker 3>during COVID for months, living with these Chappibo Shamans and

829
00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:14.679
<v Speaker 3>those guys. It's not like when they drink ayahuasca. It's

830
00:43:14.719 --> 00:43:18.039
<v Speaker 3>not when the guests are there. They drink ayahuasca all

831
00:43:18.039 --> 00:43:20.920
<v Speaker 3>the time, so it's like they force you to drink it.

832
00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:23.079
<v Speaker 3>They forced me to drink it when I was during

833
00:43:23.079 --> 00:43:25.719
<v Speaker 3>the pandemic. So I was drinking ayahuasca like twice a

834
00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:26.719
<v Speaker 3>week for a month.

835
00:43:26.840 --> 00:43:27.079
<v Speaker 2>Good.

836
00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:29.960
<v Speaker 3>It was just like and even if I didn't join,

837
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:32.639
<v Speaker 3>which I would like try my best to protest these,

838
00:43:32.920 --> 00:43:34.960
<v Speaker 3>they would make me join the ceremony. So I got

839
00:43:34.960 --> 00:43:36.519
<v Speaker 3>to go sit in the ceremony and I still have

840
00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:40.000
<v Speaker 3>to get and some nights I just okay, give me

841
00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:43.119
<v Speaker 3>that because they're gonna torture me anyway. So I drink it.

842
00:43:43.639 --> 00:43:47.239
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, I mean, I am ayahuasca out at this point.

843
00:43:47.519 --> 00:43:51.000
<v Speaker 3>But I've had many, many intense ayahuasca experiences and I've

844
00:43:51.039 --> 00:43:55.480
<v Speaker 3>got to know the spirit of ayahuasca a little bit.

845
00:43:55.519 --> 00:43:57.599
<v Speaker 3>I don't know it at all, but I know it

846
00:43:57.639 --> 00:43:59.519
<v Speaker 3>a little bit, you know. I kind of find I

847
00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:02.679
<v Speaker 3>find it fun when people think they know ayauasca after

848
00:44:02.719 --> 00:44:05.320
<v Speaker 3>a week or something. It's like, man, I don't even

849
00:44:05.360 --> 00:44:09.360
<v Speaker 3>have a clue what ayahuasca is. But it's a portal

850
00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:11.199
<v Speaker 3>to aliens for sure. If you want to go down

851
00:44:11.199 --> 00:44:13.519
<v Speaker 3>the alien route, that is definitely one way to connect

852
00:44:13.559 --> 00:44:17.320
<v Speaker 3>with some dimensional beings. I think all I think actually

853
00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:22.800
<v Speaker 3>psychedelics in general are ereable that allows you to interact

854
00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:28.360
<v Speaker 3>with intelligences that are existing beyond this biochemistry that we're

855
00:44:28.400 --> 00:44:29.320
<v Speaker 3>operating in right now.

856
00:44:29.920 --> 00:44:31.239
<v Speaker 2>That's a great way to word it.

857
00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:36.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I think our world. I think of

858
00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:39.039
<v Speaker 3>the ancient world. They all knew about it. There are ancestors.

859
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:41.679
<v Speaker 3>All our ancestors, no matter what color race you are,

860
00:44:42.079 --> 00:44:45.199
<v Speaker 3>are chuckling at us for losing this knowledge or shaking

861
00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:48.320
<v Speaker 3>their heads because they all know. In the tribal communities

862
00:44:48.360 --> 00:44:50.119
<v Speaker 3>around the world, they still have it, you know, the

863
00:44:50.119 --> 00:44:55.000
<v Speaker 3>ones that have still maintained their grandparents language. They haven't

864
00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:57.800
<v Speaker 3>got the church built in their village yet. These guys,

865
00:44:57.920 --> 00:45:01.599
<v Speaker 3>these guys know, they know, and they're using the plants

866
00:45:01.599 --> 00:45:03.800
<v Speaker 3>to speak with these spirits. They might not call them aliens,

867
00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:06.719
<v Speaker 3>but by today's standard, you know, whatever we're connecting with,

868
00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:12.280
<v Speaker 3>they're showing us technologies, they're giving us like alien type

869
00:45:12.280 --> 00:45:15.559
<v Speaker 3>of understandings. Definitely like today's standards, you could you could

870
00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:20.440
<v Speaker 3>easily consider it that. But yeah, our ancestors new and

871
00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:22.639
<v Speaker 3>we're just now finding out. And I think a Western

872
00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:25.480
<v Speaker 3>science is just now finding out. They're now having to

873
00:45:25.519 --> 00:45:28.639
<v Speaker 3>do these studies at John Hopkins about the d MT entities,

874
00:45:28.760 --> 00:45:31.480
<v Speaker 3>and you know, all these big universities are now getting

875
00:45:31.519 --> 00:45:33.679
<v Speaker 3>hip to it because they have no choice everyone. It's

876
00:45:33.760 --> 00:45:36.519
<v Speaker 3>everyone's happening. We all had the experience, so you can't

877
00:45:36.519 --> 00:45:39.320
<v Speaker 3>tell us that it's not real. Our ancestors have the experience.

878
00:45:40.280 --> 00:45:41.159
<v Speaker 3>There's something else.

879
00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:45.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, you're right, it's like they have no choice

880
00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:46.320
<v Speaker 2>but to catch up.

881
00:45:46.719 --> 00:45:47.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

882
00:45:47.840 --> 00:45:50.159
<v Speaker 2>How do you feel about age of Aquarius? Into it?

883
00:45:50.440 --> 00:45:51.119
<v Speaker 3>H what is it?

884
00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Well, the Age of Aquarius is the idea that

885
00:45:54.639 --> 00:45:59.360
<v Speaker 2>there is like a collective shift happening that we all

886
00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:03.119
<v Speaker 2>experience in addition to all the individual awakenings that are

887
00:46:03.159 --> 00:46:05.639
<v Speaker 2>obviously happening. So it's like right now we're in the

888
00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:09.320
<v Speaker 2>age of Pisces, and then the next astrological age will

889
00:46:09.320 --> 00:46:11.159
<v Speaker 2>shift into Aquarius.

890
00:46:11.280 --> 00:46:13.599
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's like the z right now or we're

891
00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:15.079
<v Speaker 3>in the middle whereas.

892
00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:16.719
<v Speaker 2>Going to Aquarius?

893
00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:19.559
<v Speaker 3>But are we? Where are we? How far are we

894
00:46:19.639 --> 00:46:21.400
<v Speaker 3>until we hit the Aquarius in our lifetime?

895
00:46:21.480 --> 00:46:24.239
<v Speaker 2>Or this is like future, like like the very end

896
00:46:24.400 --> 00:46:28.119
<v Speaker 2>of a Pisces. Yes that there, there's it has been

897
00:46:28.199 --> 00:46:31.920
<v Speaker 2>said that Aquarius might be very very soon. In fact,

898
00:46:32.039 --> 00:46:35.360
<v Speaker 2>I think that it's already here and that's why we're

899
00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:40.960
<v Speaker 2>having such profound awakenings and turbulence on the planet. Not

900
00:46:41.079 --> 00:46:43.840
<v Speaker 2>only you know, we're having fires we're having floods, we're

901
00:46:43.880 --> 00:46:46.639
<v Speaker 2>having earthquakes, we're having hurricanes, we're having wars, we're having

902
00:46:46.639 --> 00:46:53.159
<v Speaker 2>all these political bull crap, you know. But also UFOs

903
00:46:53.719 --> 00:46:57.599
<v Speaker 2>Ya drones over New Jersey, all the congressional talks. My

904
00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:00.599
<v Speaker 2>family really like have a big to play with the

905
00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:05.480
<v Speaker 2>UFO story. And there's just like so much change happening rapidly,

906
00:47:05.639 --> 00:47:09.519
<v Speaker 2>and it could be said that it's ai yeah, and

907
00:47:09.559 --> 00:47:11.599
<v Speaker 2>it goes on and on, and it could be said

908
00:47:11.599 --> 00:47:14.079
<v Speaker 2>that it's because there's a shift into an age. And

909
00:47:14.119 --> 00:47:17.000
<v Speaker 2>if you think to go to historically, every time we

910
00:47:17.039 --> 00:47:18.920
<v Speaker 2>shift into a new age, there was a new prophet,

911
00:47:19.039 --> 00:47:23.280
<v Speaker 2>there was a new spiritual advancement of our knowledge that

912
00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:26.559
<v Speaker 2>we had, you know, and yeah, I just didn't know.

913
00:47:26.559 --> 00:47:31.960
<v Speaker 3>If I have heard of that. In Hinduism they call

914
00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:34.880
<v Speaker 3>this age kali yuga, where it's it's the age where

915
00:47:34.920 --> 00:47:38.519
<v Speaker 3>everything is fucked up. So it's like it's where like

916
00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:41.480
<v Speaker 3>the spiritual teachings are kind of like muddy. It's like

917
00:47:41.519 --> 00:47:44.280
<v Speaker 3>the teachings are there, but the people saying it don't

918
00:47:44.960 --> 00:47:48.760
<v Speaker 3>aren't really experiencing what they're saying. They're just kind of repeating.

919
00:47:49.079 --> 00:47:52.760
<v Speaker 3>So like in the turbulence that you're talking about that's

920
00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:56.559
<v Speaker 3>all signs of kali yuga. And I totally agree with

921
00:47:56.599 --> 00:47:58.559
<v Speaker 3>you that there's a that there's a shift happening. And

922
00:47:58.599 --> 00:48:02.280
<v Speaker 3>I think the reason there's population happening right now is

923
00:48:02.280 --> 00:48:05.880
<v Speaker 3>that we're all incarnating here on purpose to come here

924
00:48:06.079 --> 00:48:08.320
<v Speaker 3>because the car was burning quick while we're here, like

925
00:48:08.360 --> 00:48:10.400
<v Speaker 3>there's the fire everywhere going on, so we're working out

926
00:48:10.400 --> 00:48:13.599
<v Speaker 3>our shit, like, you know, this is like multiple lifetimes

927
00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:15.800
<v Speaker 3>worth of shit that we get to work out in

928
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:18.280
<v Speaker 3>one lifetime. So I think, yeah, I think there is

929
00:48:18.280 --> 00:48:21.079
<v Speaker 3>a shift happening, and I think we're in the thick

930
00:48:21.119 --> 00:48:23.639
<v Speaker 3>of it right now. And everywhere you look you can

931
00:48:23.679 --> 00:48:26.039
<v Speaker 3>see it. If you talk to people on a personal level,

932
00:48:26.119 --> 00:48:30.280
<v Speaker 3>everyone feels it and yeah, here we are, you know.

933
00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:33.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like the elephant in the room. Everyone's going

934
00:48:33.199 --> 00:48:36.760
<v Speaker 2>through this crazy change and it's like, what is happening here?

935
00:48:36.840 --> 00:48:39.559
<v Speaker 2>And then you're in the corner You're like, I know

936
00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:42.679
<v Speaker 2>what's happening and everyone's like, nah, you're crazy, and then

937
00:48:42.679 --> 00:48:44.880
<v Speaker 2>they walk outside and see a UFO, we're crazy. Yeah

938
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:47.159
<v Speaker 2>that's just one example. You know, had that happen to

939
00:48:47.159 --> 00:48:48.079
<v Speaker 2>me so many times.

940
00:48:48.119 --> 00:48:52.239
<v Speaker 3>But well, what it's demanding is that we all focus

941
00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:54.119
<v Speaker 3>right now. And I think a lot of people are

942
00:48:54.199 --> 00:48:55.800
<v Speaker 3>going to get scared. I think a lot of people

943
00:48:55.840 --> 00:48:58.360
<v Speaker 3>do feel scared. Actually. I think there's a lot of

944
00:48:58.760 --> 00:49:04.159
<v Speaker 3>unease happening and socially, and everything is is nudging us

945
00:49:04.719 --> 00:49:07.719
<v Speaker 3>towards growth, really, that's what it is. But in that

946
00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:10.719
<v Speaker 3>process of growth, there is a lot of unsettling and

947
00:49:10.800 --> 00:49:15.000
<v Speaker 3>unease and nausea, you know, like spiritual nausea. And I

948
00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:16.639
<v Speaker 3>think a lot of people are going to be scared.

949
00:49:16.760 --> 00:49:20.719
<v Speaker 3>But I think it's very important in this moment that

950
00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:26.039
<v Speaker 3>we remain calm, that we remain spiritually aware, and that

951
00:49:26.119 --> 00:49:28.159
<v Speaker 3>we don't get lost in the sauce. Because as soon

952
00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:30.760
<v Speaker 3>as we get lost in the sauce, you know, with

953
00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:34.000
<v Speaker 3>then the Klie yoga or the previous era has us,

954
00:49:34.039 --> 00:49:37.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, and it's time for us to wake up.

955
00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:40.920
<v Speaker 3>And I think that comes very simply by not only

956
00:49:41.000 --> 00:49:44.800
<v Speaker 3>going deep into these meditations and out of body experiences

957
00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:50.440
<v Speaker 3>and UFOs, but simply by you don't go by coca cola,

958
00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:53.119
<v Speaker 3>you don't go say the negative thing you were going

959
00:49:53.199 --> 00:49:55.400
<v Speaker 3>to say. You know, it starts very simply, and then

960
00:49:55.440 --> 00:49:59.760
<v Speaker 3>from there, slowly, slowly, we start reconnecting with compassion, and

961
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:02.199
<v Speaker 3>with that compassion, we start to look at the plants,

962
00:50:02.239 --> 00:50:04.480
<v Speaker 3>we start to look at the animals, and then through

963
00:50:04.519 --> 00:50:07.880
<v Speaker 3>there we slowly, slowly start to understand the soul. Oh

964
00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:09.559
<v Speaker 3>my god, I have a soul. This animal has a soul.

965
00:50:09.639 --> 00:50:13.440
<v Speaker 3>This tree, everything is some connected. And then from there

966
00:50:14.320 --> 00:50:16.119
<v Speaker 3>the aliens are going to start talking to us because

967
00:50:16.119 --> 00:50:18.280
<v Speaker 3>we're going to be able to see it. We're too

968
00:50:18.280 --> 00:50:21.400
<v Speaker 3>distracted right now by our own bullshit that we if

969
00:50:21.400 --> 00:50:24.239
<v Speaker 3>we we're not even able to use our psychic powers

970
00:50:24.239 --> 00:50:27.719
<v Speaker 3>because we're too distracted by our bullshit. Everyone's horny, everyone's

971
00:50:28.599 --> 00:50:32.199
<v Speaker 3>that food. Everyone, you know, like you're confused right now.

972
00:50:32.239 --> 00:50:36.079
<v Speaker 3>Our whole human species right now is in a hypnosis.

973
00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:38.840
<v Speaker 3>So it's very important for people like us to, you know,

974
00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:40.679
<v Speaker 3>just to kind of throw some water in the face

975
00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:43.199
<v Speaker 3>or slap them awake and say like, look, you know,

976
00:50:43.320 --> 00:50:46.599
<v Speaker 3>remember who you are. Remember who you are, because you know,

977
00:50:46.639 --> 00:50:50.840
<v Speaker 3>the people that want your power are having it every

978
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:54.000
<v Speaker 3>time that you don't remember who you are. So it's

979
00:50:54.000 --> 00:50:56.480
<v Speaker 3>a big fight right now. And I think if we

980
00:50:56.559 --> 00:50:59.000
<v Speaker 3>are successful in that fight and we do enter this

981
00:50:59.119 --> 00:51:03.119
<v Speaker 3>next stage of awaken, all this mystical and supernatural stuff

982
00:51:03.199 --> 00:51:05.280
<v Speaker 3>is going to be very obvious to us. I think

983
00:51:05.320 --> 00:51:09.199
<v Speaker 3>we're just so distracted that even if they were here,

984
00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:12.480
<v Speaker 3>we wouldn't believe it. Even if or like a spiritual thing.

985
00:51:12.519 --> 00:51:14.440
<v Speaker 3>You know, if the Guru came to you, would you

986
00:51:14.519 --> 00:51:17.960
<v Speaker 3>even believe him? You know, Huda was here, would you

987
00:51:18.000 --> 00:51:20.159
<v Speaker 3>believe him? But Jesus was here, would you believe him?

988
00:51:20.199 --> 00:51:21.920
<v Speaker 3>No one will believe it. If the aliens were here,

989
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:25.000
<v Speaker 3>someone somewhere would question it. Yeah, it's part of the

990
00:51:25.039 --> 00:51:28.400
<v Speaker 3>age of being in Kylie Yuga. But it's time for

991
00:51:28.480 --> 00:51:30.519
<v Speaker 3>us to be slapped awake a little bit. And I think,

992
00:51:30.719 --> 00:51:33.199
<v Speaker 3>like we were saying earlier, there's we're getting to that

993
00:51:33.280 --> 00:51:37.480
<v Speaker 3>turbulence where it's there's no choice. In ten years from now,

994
00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:39.800
<v Speaker 3>everybody is going to be a different world. I don't

995
00:51:39.800 --> 00:51:41.360
<v Speaker 3>know even it's even going to look.

996
00:51:41.280 --> 00:51:45.320
<v Speaker 2>Like, yeah, it's going to be crazy. I think that

997
00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:48.719
<v Speaker 2>it's so spot on what you said about like we

998
00:51:48.760 --> 00:51:51.920
<v Speaker 2>can't even use our psychic powers because we're distracted. Well,

999
00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:57.280
<v Speaker 2>I've been very privileged and honored and lucky to have

1000
00:51:57.360 --> 00:52:05.119
<v Speaker 2>had an experience of being very close to like cutting

1001
00:52:05.239 --> 00:52:08.559
<v Speaker 2>edge psychic stuff in my life, you know, as far

1002
00:52:08.559 --> 00:52:13.199
<v Speaker 2>as like knowing people who ran the psychic spy program. Uh,

1003
00:52:13.400 --> 00:52:16.039
<v Speaker 2>going to the Minrositute, just my family and the paranormal

1004
00:52:16.119 --> 00:52:18.800
<v Speaker 2>experiences that we've had. I've seen crazy shit. Let me

1005
00:52:18.840 --> 00:52:22.239
<v Speaker 2>just say that I've seen crazy shit and I'm very

1006
00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:25.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm just very like blessed to have that experience. And

1007
00:52:25.199 --> 00:52:29.679
<v Speaker 2>I know for a fact that it is unfolding in

1008
00:52:29.719 --> 00:52:33.320
<v Speaker 2>a way that is just like Domino is falling to

1009
00:52:33.400 --> 00:52:38.039
<v Speaker 2>where like you said, maybe ten years from now, you know.

1010
00:52:38.119 --> 00:52:40.719
<v Speaker 3>Ten years from now, it's going to be insane these Yeah,

1011
00:52:40.960 --> 00:52:43.639
<v Speaker 3>the common person has no clue how fast it's coming.

1012
00:52:43.960 --> 00:52:47.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I even speculate if like fifty two one

1013
00:52:47.159 --> 00:52:49.559
<v Speaker 2>hundred years from now, do people just oh, I'm hungry

1014
00:52:49.880 --> 00:52:51.239
<v Speaker 2>manifest an apple with thought?

1015
00:52:51.840 --> 00:52:54.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know that's not fifty to one hundred years

1016
00:52:54.760 --> 00:52:57.440
<v Speaker 3>is uncomprehendible to us right now with how fast and

1017
00:52:57.480 --> 00:52:59.800
<v Speaker 3>crazy stuff it's going to be changing. One hundred years

1018
00:52:59.880 --> 00:53:03.400
<v Speaker 3>is to be ten thousand years, you know from our

1019
00:53:03.440 --> 00:53:04.639
<v Speaker 3>previous progress.

1020
00:53:04.920 --> 00:53:07.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think that all the stuff about levitation is real.

1021
00:53:07.840 --> 00:53:10.880
<v Speaker 2>When you read these Tibetan texts of like these masters

1022
00:53:10.920 --> 00:53:15.280
<v Speaker 2>meditating in caves, I mean levitating, meditating too, but levitating.

1023
00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:18.400
<v Speaker 2>And you always hear stories of Catholic saints levitating around

1024
00:53:18.400 --> 00:53:20.400
<v Speaker 2>a crowd of one hundred people. You know what I mean, Like,

1025
00:53:20.440 --> 00:53:24.239
<v Speaker 2>I think crazy. I think that reality is being shaken

1026
00:53:24.679 --> 00:53:27.440
<v Speaker 2>by the process that's happening right now with the unfoldment

1027
00:53:27.480 --> 00:53:30.079
<v Speaker 2>of consciousness, like on a collective scale, and right now

1028
00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:34.000
<v Speaker 2>it's like, you know, there's this small number of people

1029
00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:36.400
<v Speaker 2>who've seen this stuff. Like, for example, dude, I have

1030
00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:40.800
<v Speaker 2>this friend named Dahlia, very cool person. Her daughter is

1031
00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:42.760
<v Speaker 2>one of the children on the telepathy tapes. Have you

1032
00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:43.320
<v Speaker 2>heard about that.

1033
00:53:43.400 --> 00:53:44.800
<v Speaker 3>I've heard about it, but I haven't had the chance

1034
00:53:44.840 --> 00:53:46.199
<v Speaker 3>to watch yet. I want to watch it.

1035
00:53:46.199 --> 00:53:50.639
<v Speaker 2>It's very interesting. It's nonverbal, autistic children who read each

1036
00:53:50.639 --> 00:53:52.639
<v Speaker 2>other's minds, in other people's minds, and they do other

1037
00:53:52.679 --> 00:53:53.480
<v Speaker 2>stuff too, I.

1038
00:53:53.400 --> 00:53:56.679
<v Speaker 3>Mean evolutionary, evolutionarily it makes sense.

1039
00:53:56.519 --> 00:54:01.320
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah. And she was so moved by what's happening

1040
00:54:01.360 --> 00:54:03.320
<v Speaker 2>with her daughter being able to read minds and see

1041
00:54:03.360 --> 00:54:06.519
<v Speaker 2>the future and talk to spirits and stuff that she

1042
00:54:06.599 --> 00:54:10.840
<v Speaker 2>started getting into psychic training. I have seen her in

1043
00:54:10.920 --> 00:54:14.400
<v Speaker 2>private and in public at an event called the SI

1044
00:54:14.519 --> 00:54:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Games in Virginia in a room full of like five

1045
00:54:17.079 --> 00:54:24.480
<v Speaker 2>hundred people. I've seen her triple blindfolded read words, match colors,

1046
00:54:25.840 --> 00:54:28.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, pick numbers everything. With her eyes closed and

1047
00:54:28.639 --> 00:54:31.679
<v Speaker 2>triple blindfolded, she can see better than you were me.

1048
00:54:31.920 --> 00:54:36.760
<v Speaker 2>And that's just one example. You know, obviously remote viewing.

1049
00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:39.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you're familiar with that. I know all the

1050
00:54:39.440 --> 00:54:41.199
<v Speaker 2>guys that are not all the guys, but most of

1051
00:54:41.239 --> 00:54:44.159
<v Speaker 2>the guys that were involved with that, you know, the

1052
00:54:44.199 --> 00:54:47.800
<v Speaker 2>CIA program. And she's seen a lot of crazy stuff, man,

1053
00:54:47.800 --> 00:54:49.679
<v Speaker 2>And then it you know, it's like you said, there's

1054
00:54:49.719 --> 00:54:52.400
<v Speaker 2>other people and they're like, well, I don't believe that.

1055
00:54:53.280 --> 00:54:56.079
<v Speaker 2>All right, You're lost, bro, You're not the life.

1056
00:54:55.960 --> 00:54:59.719
<v Speaker 3>Of the most life. Yeah, what do you think about?

1057
00:54:59.719 --> 00:55:01.119
<v Speaker 3>Place is like go Beckley Tepe.

1058
00:55:02.199 --> 00:55:04.559
<v Speaker 2>You know, if you had asked me about anywhere else

1059
00:55:04.599 --> 00:55:06.360
<v Speaker 2>in the entire world, I might have an answer. But

1060
00:55:06.400 --> 00:55:09.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't know much about go Beckley Tepe? Even where

1061
00:55:09.119 --> 00:55:09.599
<v Speaker 2>is it.

1062
00:55:09.639 --> 00:55:11.400
<v Speaker 3>You don't know about Beckley Tepe? I thought that would

1063
00:55:11.400 --> 00:55:14.400
<v Speaker 3>be your Like, you know, that's a big mystery, Alex.

1064
00:55:16.039 --> 00:55:18.880
<v Speaker 2>Do you have any thoughts? Alex, you're here too.

1065
00:55:18.719 --> 00:55:21.119
<v Speaker 3>Well, Alex, I forgot to hear.

1066
00:55:21.159 --> 00:55:24.079
<v Speaker 5>It's the whole Graham Hancock thing and the idea that

1067
00:55:24.119 --> 00:55:26.119
<v Speaker 5>there was an ancient civilization that was.

1068
00:55:26.239 --> 00:55:29.159
<v Speaker 2>First I know what it is. I just haven't. That's

1069
00:55:29.159 --> 00:55:30.039
<v Speaker 2>about all I know.

1070
00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:30.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1071
00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:32.360
<v Speaker 3>Oh shit, dude, you want me to give you a

1072
00:55:32.360 --> 00:55:36.880
<v Speaker 3>little my little go Beckley, so go Beckley. Tepe was

1073
00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:40.760
<v Speaker 3>a site that dates back to twelve thousand years ago

1074
00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:42.760
<v Speaker 3>at the end of the last Ice Age. So at

1075
00:55:42.760 --> 00:55:45.000
<v Speaker 3>the end of the Last I say, human beings were

1076
00:55:45.480 --> 00:55:50.039
<v Speaker 3>pretty much scattered tribes, hunter gatherers, nomadic, moving with the seasons,

1077
00:55:50.119 --> 00:55:56.760
<v Speaker 3>hunting with animals, not building megalithic structures with fifteen ton

1078
00:55:56.800 --> 00:56:01.360
<v Speaker 3>stones being dragged down hills and uphills, with perfect master

1079
00:56:01.840 --> 00:56:08.559
<v Speaker 3>mastery in the stone art and clear religious symbolism and

1080
00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:12.239
<v Speaker 3>clear complex structure in their belief system. They find human

1081
00:56:12.320 --> 00:56:15.880
<v Speaker 3>skulls and all kinds of crazy stuff. And it's twelve

1082
00:56:15.880 --> 00:56:17.880
<v Speaker 3>thousand years ago, when that's not it's supposed to be possible.

1083
00:56:17.880 --> 00:56:22.039
<v Speaker 3>So everyone's got all the archaeologists scrape scratching their heads. Okay,

1084
00:56:22.039 --> 00:56:25.039
<v Speaker 3>how fuck Okay. So there's just this isolated temple they're

1085
00:56:25.039 --> 00:56:27.840
<v Speaker 3>calling it first temple in the world, and they find

1086
00:56:27.840 --> 00:56:32.119
<v Speaker 3>some scattered other anomalies around, and they're like, how is

1087
00:56:32.119 --> 00:56:34.000
<v Speaker 3>this possible? You know, we don't find anything else in

1088
00:56:34.000 --> 00:56:36.840
<v Speaker 3>the Stone Age that's even close to this so they

1089
00:56:36.840 --> 00:56:40.440
<v Speaker 3>start doing like digs around the area. And now fast

1090
00:56:40.440 --> 00:56:42.840
<v Speaker 3>forward to twenty twenty five, they realize it's a giant

1091
00:56:42.920 --> 00:56:46.000
<v Speaker 3>network of sites of megaliths all in this for two

1092
00:56:46.039 --> 00:56:49.800
<v Speaker 3>hundred kilometers in each direction. Wow, they say twelve. They

1093
00:56:49.840 --> 00:56:53.760
<v Speaker 3>call the Tepe Layer sites the Stone Hills network, but

1094
00:56:53.840 --> 00:56:55.639
<v Speaker 3>actually there's like a hundred.

1095
00:56:56.000 --> 00:56:56.400
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

1096
00:56:57.320 --> 00:57:00.440
<v Speaker 3>And this is like, this is rewriting our whole idea

1097
00:57:00.440 --> 00:57:03.239
<v Speaker 3>of history, the one that I'm that I work with

1098
00:57:03.280 --> 00:57:05.360
<v Speaker 3>the most. I'm actually going to Turkey in two days,

1099
00:57:06.320 --> 00:57:09.760
<v Speaker 3>but to these sites. I've been documenting it for about

1100
00:57:09.800 --> 00:57:12.280
<v Speaker 3>seven years. Caughtahan Tepe is the name of it. It's

1101
00:57:12.280 --> 00:57:15.039
<v Speaker 3>like the sister site to go Beckley Tepe Way. I

1102
00:57:15.079 --> 00:57:16.639
<v Speaker 3>don't know if it's way crazier because Go Beckley is

1103
00:57:16.639 --> 00:57:20.960
<v Speaker 3>still underground most of it. Buttee is like a clear

1104
00:57:21.239 --> 00:57:26.119
<v Speaker 3>shamanic death leopard cult. The whole thing. He's got like

1105
00:57:26.360 --> 00:57:32.760
<v Speaker 3>these leopard skin pelts carved into the pillar. They find

1106
00:57:32.800 --> 00:57:36.119
<v Speaker 3>leopard bones there, they find got these statues with these

1107
00:57:36.119 --> 00:57:40.159
<v Speaker 3>guys carrying leopards on their backs. They find statues of penises.

1108
00:57:40.599 --> 00:57:44.159
<v Speaker 3>They find this dead man statue who's got like a peanut,

1109
00:57:44.159 --> 00:57:46.000
<v Speaker 3>he's got his penis out, his ribs are all he's

1110
00:57:46.039 --> 00:57:50.360
<v Speaker 3>like a zombie seven feet tall. It's next to a vulture,

1111
00:57:50.719 --> 00:57:54.559
<v Speaker 3>next to a human skull, square thing. So it's like

1112
00:57:55.159 --> 00:57:58.320
<v Speaker 3>these Stone age people work just completely wrong. Like it's

1113
00:57:58.360 --> 00:58:01.360
<v Speaker 3>just do we really don't know any thing about our history?

1114
00:58:01.400 --> 00:58:04.039
<v Speaker 3>Obviously we only know what we find, but we always

1115
00:58:04.079 --> 00:58:07.000
<v Speaker 3>find us it proves as wrong or that proves that

1116
00:58:07.039 --> 00:58:09.920
<v Speaker 3>we don't know the full story. But this is like

1117
00:58:11.320 --> 00:58:13.519
<v Speaker 3>it's crazy. I mean, I don't think aliens have anything

1118
00:58:13.519 --> 00:58:16.320
<v Speaker 3>to do with it, but it's just like it's insane

1119
00:58:17.079 --> 00:58:23.440
<v Speaker 3>that you see such advance complex social structure, religious structure,

1120
00:58:23.840 --> 00:58:29.760
<v Speaker 3>artistic structure, geometrical knowledge, and a lot of the carvings

1121
00:58:29.800 --> 00:58:34.559
<v Speaker 3>show like vultures carrying human heads. It's like a death cult,

1122
00:58:34.599 --> 00:58:36.679
<v Speaker 3>a fertility death cult because you see the penises, so

1123
00:58:36.679 --> 00:58:39.599
<v Speaker 3>there's obviously some fertility there and the death stuff is

1124
00:58:39.760 --> 00:58:43.679
<v Speaker 3>very obvious in all the sites. And the crazy thing

1125
00:58:43.800 --> 00:58:46.599
<v Speaker 3>is is they find obsidian from five hundred miles away.

1126
00:58:46.840 --> 00:58:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Why I find pilgrige. Pilgrimage just what I'm.

1127
00:58:52.719 --> 00:58:56.920
<v Speaker 3>Thinking, because that's perfect you say that because two thousand

1128
00:58:57.039 --> 00:59:00.000
<v Speaker 3>years later, a couple hundred miles away, there's a place

1129
00:59:00.000 --> 00:59:04.119
<v Speaker 3>it's called Chattel Hoyuke. It's maintaining the same motifs leopards,

1130
00:59:06.079 --> 00:59:10.280
<v Speaker 3>vultures and the human heads. All this stuff is maintained

1131
00:59:10.320 --> 00:59:13.800
<v Speaker 3>for two thousand years in this area. So maybe they

1132
00:59:13.800 --> 00:59:16.920
<v Speaker 3>were pilgrimage. Maybe this was one of the first organized

1133
00:59:16.960 --> 00:59:21.880
<v Speaker 3>religions and it spread across the whole area right there. Wow,

1134
00:59:21.920 --> 00:59:23.679
<v Speaker 3>I mean you find it, and even up into the

1135
00:59:23.679 --> 00:59:27.840
<v Speaker 3>Samerian stuff, you find vultures carrying human heads or lions

1136
00:59:27.880 --> 00:59:31.440
<v Speaker 3>and leopards, and it could go back very far and

1137
00:59:31.519 --> 00:59:33.599
<v Speaker 3>like the Grand Hank. If there was a Los civilization,

1138
00:59:33.760 --> 00:59:37.000
<v Speaker 3>this could be like the Atlantis. Yeah, I mean, these

1139
00:59:37.039 --> 00:59:39.880
<v Speaker 3>guys seem to just you don't The crazy thing is

1140
00:59:39.880 --> 00:59:42.599
<v Speaker 3>is you don't find anything in between the stone carving,

1141
00:59:43.440 --> 00:59:45.679
<v Speaker 3>so like the oldest shit we find is just like

1142
00:59:46.559 --> 00:59:54.239
<v Speaker 3>intensely detailed and complex, like they're carving three dimensional objects

1143
00:59:54.239 --> 00:59:57.280
<v Speaker 3>out of the stone or carving into the bedrocks. So

1144
00:59:57.280 --> 01:00:00.599
<v Speaker 3>they're like scooping the stone out of the bedrock, carving

1145
01:00:00.840 --> 01:00:03.159
<v Speaker 3>structures that are connected to the earth still.

1146
01:00:03.400 --> 01:00:09.719
<v Speaker 2>With copper or weaker tools with flint. Yeah, hell yeah, how.

1147
01:00:11.360 --> 01:00:12.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't even know how?

1148
01:00:12.679 --> 01:00:14.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think.

1149
01:00:14.760 --> 01:00:17.679
<v Speaker 3>And my friends some flint tools I'm not carving nothing.

1150
01:00:18.000 --> 01:00:23.119
<v Speaker 2>So I watched a documentary my Yeah, same, my buddy Aaron.

1151
01:00:23.960 --> 01:00:26.800
<v Speaker 2>Shout out to Aaron and his fiance Helen. He's the

1152
01:00:28.119 --> 01:00:32.480
<v Speaker 2>very talented mind behind some really cool bands like Infiniteihilator

1153
01:00:32.519 --> 01:00:35.079
<v Speaker 2>and Black Tongue, and he's been on my show I'm

1154
01:00:35.119 --> 01:00:39.599
<v Speaker 2>a heavy metal Nerd. But anyway, he came and stayed

1155
01:00:39.599 --> 01:00:42.360
<v Speaker 2>with me from England. We had a good show, hung out,

1156
01:00:42.360 --> 01:00:45.159
<v Speaker 2>did a Monrosa to retreat together and something for days.

1157
01:00:45.159 --> 01:00:47.239
<v Speaker 2>He was like, you gotta watch this documentary on the

1158
01:00:47.280 --> 01:00:51.639
<v Speaker 2>bar of bar caves. You gotta watch, yeah, and we

1159
01:00:51.760 --> 01:00:53.559
<v Speaker 2>ended up watching it. I don't know if you've seen it,

1160
01:00:53.559 --> 01:00:57.239
<v Speaker 2>but you'll probably really find it interesting. It's like imagine,

1161
01:00:57.400 --> 01:01:01.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, you know, like the old fashioned airplane hangars

1162
01:01:01.199 --> 01:01:02.880
<v Speaker 2>or like you see them on military basis where they're

1163
01:01:02.880 --> 01:01:06.000
<v Speaker 2>like a half circle dome and they're long and it's

1164
01:01:06.039 --> 01:01:07.639
<v Speaker 2>like airplanes go in and out of them.

1165
01:01:07.840 --> 01:01:09.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

1166
01:01:08.880 --> 01:01:11.039
<v Speaker 2>Like the semi circle buildings.

1167
01:01:10.559 --> 01:01:12.039
<v Speaker 3>Like in GTA. Were you still here?

1168
01:01:12.119 --> 01:01:15.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah exactly, Yeah, that's why I know them from military

1169
01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:24.639
<v Speaker 2>basis from GTA. So imagine that shape precisely cut down

1170
01:01:24.719 --> 01:01:28.519
<v Speaker 2>to like point zero zero one laser accuracy by hand

1171
01:01:28.599 --> 01:01:31.760
<v Speaker 2>with no machine tools actually better than modern machine tools

1172
01:01:32.119 --> 01:01:38.280
<v Speaker 2>inside stone. That's the bare bar caves. Yeah, And the

1173
01:01:38.360 --> 01:01:45.960
<v Speaker 2>geometry of these structures is extremely precise, extremely geometrically sound

1174
01:01:46.079 --> 01:01:49.519
<v Speaker 2>and symmetric, and they were probably made like ten thousand

1175
01:01:49.559 --> 01:01:51.840
<v Speaker 2>years ago or five thousand years ago or something like that.

1176
01:01:52.239 --> 01:01:55.280
<v Speaker 3>And it's like wow, even if it was made yesterday

1177
01:01:55.320 --> 01:01:58.719
<v Speaker 3>with no modern tools, it's like how.

1178
01:01:59.199 --> 01:02:02.159
<v Speaker 2>How they literally in this documentary they take them to

1179
01:02:02.239 --> 01:02:07.639
<v Speaker 2>like Stonemasons, modern Stonemasons, like Master World renowned Stonemasons from

1180
01:02:07.760 --> 01:02:10.239
<v Speaker 2>France and these other countries in Europe that I can't

1181
01:02:10.239 --> 01:02:13.440
<v Speaker 2>remember right now, and they're like, I couldn't do this,

1182
01:02:14.280 --> 01:02:17.239
<v Speaker 2>and they're like rate it difficulty out of ten, two

1183
01:02:17.280 --> 01:02:21.639
<v Speaker 2>of them said twelve, Like impossible, this can't be done.

1184
01:02:22.039 --> 01:02:24.079
<v Speaker 2>The machines we have are as big as this room.

1185
01:02:24.119 --> 01:02:26.599
<v Speaker 2>You can't fit that underground in a cave. They took

1186
01:02:26.599 --> 01:02:31.159
<v Speaker 2>it to. I can't remember the business, but like they

1187
01:02:31.159 --> 01:02:33.679
<v Speaker 2>have these machines that like cut granted and get them polished.

1188
01:02:34.119 --> 01:02:37.239
<v Speaker 2>And it was after being ran through the machine over

1189
01:02:37.320 --> 01:02:40.360
<v Speaker 2>and over, it was less polished and less precise than

1190
01:02:41.039 --> 01:02:43.440
<v Speaker 2>the barbar caves. So it's like, how do they do

1191
01:02:43.480 --> 01:02:44.480
<v Speaker 2>this how.

1192
01:02:44.920 --> 01:02:47.000
<v Speaker 3>And India's got a lot of weird places like that,

1193
01:02:47.119 --> 01:02:48.960
<v Speaker 3>and that's just a random place in India that's not

1194
01:02:49.000 --> 01:02:52.119
<v Speaker 3>even a famous place. Really. Yeah, they have like that

1195
01:02:52.159 --> 01:02:54.360
<v Speaker 3>one what is it a Laura? You know about a

1196
01:02:54.440 --> 01:02:57.599
<v Speaker 3>Laura where they again carved into the bedrock gigantic temples

1197
01:02:57.599 --> 01:02:59.760
<v Speaker 3>from the top of a mountain and just start chooping.

1198
01:02:59.480 --> 01:03:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Away the mountain and got Petra Jordan.

1199
01:03:02.840 --> 01:03:05.519
<v Speaker 3>I've been to Petra, incredible, my favorite places.

1200
01:03:05.760 --> 01:03:08.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I have ideas. I wonder if it's some

1201
01:03:08.800 --> 01:03:11.840
<v Speaker 2>sort of sound like vibrational technology. I mean, you know

1202
01:03:11.840 --> 01:03:15.360
<v Speaker 2>about cimatics and there's like it's possible.

1203
01:03:15.800 --> 01:03:17.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean it's definitely not impossible, or.

1204
01:03:17.719 --> 01:03:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Magnets, yeah, something like that. I don't know. I don't

1205
01:03:20.920 --> 01:03:23.519
<v Speaker 2>think aliens came down and did it. I don't necessarily.

1206
01:03:23.840 --> 01:03:25.800
<v Speaker 3>I don't know about aliens coming and moving rocks. It

1207
01:03:25.840 --> 01:03:28.639
<v Speaker 3>always made me I was like, what is the motive

1208
01:03:28.679 --> 01:03:30.400
<v Speaker 3>to them become and move some rocks around? I mean,

1209
01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:32.599
<v Speaker 3>I guess like space station pointers and stuff.

1210
01:03:32.599 --> 01:03:37.320
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I have a different view on alien type experiences,

1211
01:03:37.360 --> 01:03:41.079
<v Speaker 2>like I think it tends to be a dimensional, spiritual thing.

1212
01:03:41.079 --> 01:03:41.719
<v Speaker 3>Oh for sure.

1213
01:03:41.960 --> 01:03:44.000
<v Speaker 2>And that brings me to another thing I was curious

1214
01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:45.159
<v Speaker 2>if you've ever seen a ufo.

1215
01:03:46.880 --> 01:03:49.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm glad you said that, because I forgot I wanted

1216
01:03:49.320 --> 01:03:51.599
<v Speaker 3>to tell you this. I've never seen a ufo. But

1217
01:03:51.760 --> 01:03:56.000
<v Speaker 3>I was in Mexico in time in Sonora. I don't

1218
01:03:56.000 --> 01:03:58.079
<v Speaker 3>know if you know about this tribe in Sonora, but

1219
01:03:58.119 --> 01:04:01.119
<v Speaker 3>they all talk about aliens. I don't know. Like, I

1220
01:04:01.159 --> 01:04:03.480
<v Speaker 3>went there this smoke the toad.

1221
01:04:03.280 --> 01:04:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Venom, m oh sweetnor.

1222
01:04:05.480 --> 01:04:09.760
<v Speaker 3>Toad venom, which was it's not actually traditional to them.

1223
01:04:09.880 --> 01:04:12.679
<v Speaker 3>It was discovered I think in the seventies or something,

1224
01:04:13.400 --> 01:04:16.760
<v Speaker 3>but they tried to get some indigenous heritage behind it

1225
01:04:16.800 --> 01:04:20.039
<v Speaker 3>to for legality and stuff. This tribe adopted it and

1226
01:04:20.079 --> 01:04:23.800
<v Speaker 3>it's a big political whatever. But so these guys, I

1227
01:04:23.840 --> 01:04:25.960
<v Speaker 3>went there because of the toad to learn about the toad,

1228
01:04:26.480 --> 01:04:29.519
<v Speaker 3>and just like hanging out, they just all kept talking

1229
01:04:29.519 --> 01:04:31.000
<v Speaker 3>about aliens. So I was like, what are you guys

1230
01:04:31.039 --> 01:04:31.559
<v Speaker 3>talking about?

1231
01:04:31.599 --> 01:04:33.039
<v Speaker 2>You know, did I miss something?

1232
01:04:34.760 --> 01:04:39.280
<v Speaker 3>And they were just like, oh, yeah, the aliens. They

1233
01:04:39.719 --> 01:04:44.840
<v Speaker 3>come here, they talk to us and very casually, okay, whatever,

1234
01:04:45.440 --> 01:04:47.719
<v Speaker 3>you guys are all crazy. They got little aliens shit

1235
01:04:47.760 --> 01:04:50.400
<v Speaker 3>in their house and the whole village is like aliens.

1236
01:04:50.519 --> 01:04:53.159
<v Speaker 3>Little memorabilia. This one old man was walking with an

1237
01:04:53.159 --> 01:04:58.920
<v Speaker 3>alien staff with a ufol And this is a village

1238
01:04:59.280 --> 01:05:01.079
<v Speaker 3>in the middle of no I mean, we're four hours

1239
01:05:01.079 --> 01:05:04.360
<v Speaker 3>from a city. This is desert. There's no tourists here

1240
01:05:04.760 --> 01:05:07.480
<v Speaker 3>besides actually one other weirdo that was there for the toad.

1241
01:05:08.280 --> 01:05:13.599
<v Speaker 3>And we went to sleep. And again, this is desert,

1242
01:05:13.679 --> 01:05:15.880
<v Speaker 3>so it doesn't rain very much, and for some reason

1243
01:05:15.920 --> 01:05:18.079
<v Speaker 3>the night that we stayed the night there, it rained.

1244
01:05:18.519 --> 01:05:21.199
<v Speaker 3>And there's two guesthouses there, which is just like this

1245
01:05:21.239 --> 01:05:25.119
<v Speaker 3>little shed that they put us into sleep and other

1246
01:05:25.199 --> 01:05:26.599
<v Speaker 3>tourists was there, and then it was me and my

1247
01:05:26.639 --> 01:05:30.679
<v Speaker 3>friends storming all night, which is cool because we're in

1248
01:05:30.719 --> 01:05:33.119
<v Speaker 3>the desert. It's unique to see that. But we fall asleep,

1249
01:05:33.280 --> 01:05:35.360
<v Speaker 3>wake up and I'm talking to the other tourists and

1250
01:05:35.400 --> 01:05:38.119
<v Speaker 3>he goes, did you see that a huge explosion on

1251
01:05:38.159 --> 01:05:42.400
<v Speaker 3>the beach. He's like a generator or something must have exploded,

1252
01:05:42.440 --> 01:05:44.079
<v Speaker 3>like someone must have left it out there running and

1253
01:05:44.159 --> 01:05:47.119
<v Speaker 3>when the storm came, it just made their generator explode.

1254
01:05:47.559 --> 01:05:49.440
<v Speaker 3>So we were eating with the family and he mentions

1255
01:05:49.480 --> 01:05:51.639
<v Speaker 3>it to them, what was that explosion on the beach

1256
01:05:51.719 --> 01:05:54.639
<v Speaker 3>last night, And they go, there was no explosion. That

1257
01:05:54.760 --> 01:05:59.039
<v Speaker 3>was the spaceships coming out of the water. But and

1258
01:05:59.119 --> 01:06:02.280
<v Speaker 3>that's all they said. They didn't say anything else. And

1259
01:06:02.519 --> 01:06:04.400
<v Speaker 3>he goes, what do you mean that's the space ships

1260
01:06:04.400 --> 01:06:07.159
<v Speaker 3>And he goes, well, there's no explosions on the beach.

1261
01:06:07.559 --> 01:06:09.760
<v Speaker 3>We told you there were space ships here. You saw

1262
01:06:09.800 --> 01:06:11.719
<v Speaker 3>the space ships. They just said it as a matter

1263
01:06:11.800 --> 01:06:16.719
<v Speaker 3>of fact like that. And I asked them all kinds

1264
01:06:16.719 --> 01:06:17.960
<v Speaker 3>of questions. What do they look like, you know, with

1265
01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:20.760
<v Speaker 3>the aliens, And they say they look like him, and

1266
01:06:20.800 --> 01:06:23.039
<v Speaker 3>they point to the tourist guy. They're like, that's tall.

1267
01:06:23.559 --> 01:06:25.360
<v Speaker 3>They're tall and white.

1268
01:06:26.840 --> 01:06:28.440
<v Speaker 2>The toad smoker that guy.

1269
01:06:28.880 --> 01:06:30.960
<v Speaker 3>The indigenous people said that they looked like the toad

1270
01:06:31.000 --> 01:06:34.880
<v Speaker 3>smoking white guy, and that they wear black suits, and

1271
01:06:35.199 --> 01:06:36.679
<v Speaker 3>that they also have crystals.

1272
01:06:37.400 --> 01:06:40.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh cool, Wow, sounds.

1273
01:06:39.760 --> 01:06:42.760
<v Speaker 3>Like they have some kind of crystal that makes in

1274
01:06:42.800 --> 01:06:43.320
<v Speaker 3>their ship.

1275
01:06:44.039 --> 01:06:48.119
<v Speaker 2>Like it sounds like quaets so con con or quetz

1276
01:06:48.159 --> 01:06:51.719
<v Speaker 2>no coat. I mean, yeah, that's fascinating.

1277
01:06:52.559 --> 01:06:54.519
<v Speaker 3>They all talked about it. And the thing that's crazy

1278
01:06:54.960 --> 01:06:57.199
<v Speaker 3>is that it's more or less the same area where

1279
01:06:57.199 --> 01:06:58.119
<v Speaker 3>that tik tak was at.

1280
01:06:59.079 --> 01:07:02.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh interest, so this is like northeast.

1281
01:07:02.320 --> 01:07:04.800
<v Speaker 3>Mexico, northeast of Mexico.

1282
01:07:04.920 --> 01:07:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, this.

1283
01:07:06.920 --> 01:07:09.719
<v Speaker 3>Is Bajak nor Well, Sonora, but it's by it's in

1284
01:07:09.760 --> 01:07:11.719
<v Speaker 3>the Bay of California.

1285
01:07:11.840 --> 01:07:13.519
<v Speaker 2>Oh so it's like northwest then.

1286
01:07:13.639 --> 01:07:16.400
<v Speaker 3>Wait yeah no, yeah, sorry, northeast would be like New Hampshire. Yeah,

1287
01:07:16.400 --> 01:07:19.599
<v Speaker 3>this is northwest. And the tic Tac was in the Pacific, right,

1288
01:07:20.480 --> 01:07:22.559
<v Speaker 3>you know, I don't know. I think I think the

1289
01:07:22.559 --> 01:07:26.159
<v Speaker 3>Tiktac was in the Pacific, Okay, yeah, off of California.

1290
01:07:26.360 --> 01:07:31.199
<v Speaker 3>And uh yeah. The guy told me, he was like,

1291
01:07:31.239 --> 01:07:33.880
<v Speaker 3>when we're out there on our boats, I know the

1292
01:07:33.920 --> 01:07:36.920
<v Speaker 3>difference between a manta and the ship and sometimes you

1293
01:07:36.960 --> 01:07:40.800
<v Speaker 3>look down there and the ships are going underneath the water. Wow,

1294
01:07:41.079 --> 01:07:42.599
<v Speaker 3>yeamhn man, Like this is all the ship that they

1295
01:07:42.760 --> 01:07:44.920
<v Speaker 3>that they're saying on the news and stuff about that Tiktac.

1296
01:07:45.239 --> 01:07:47.360
<v Speaker 3>That's what that's when this was happening too. And I

1297
01:07:47.400 --> 01:07:49.559
<v Speaker 3>don't know, this is weird. It's just like so these

1298
01:07:49.559 --> 01:07:52.480
<v Speaker 3>guys are just like some indigenous guys. They hardly speak Spanish,

1299
01:07:52.519 --> 01:07:57.320
<v Speaker 3>no English, and they're just saying it like it's the weather.

1300
01:07:58.280 --> 01:08:01.119
<v Speaker 3>And I would love to go back, actually meet them

1301
01:08:01.159 --> 01:08:02.679
<v Speaker 3>again and go deeper into that. I was only there

1302
01:08:02.679 --> 01:08:03.840
<v Speaker 3>for like two days.

1303
01:08:05.519 --> 01:08:10.239
<v Speaker 5>One moment, Alex, I'm looking up the Snora Desert Aliens

1304
01:08:10.559 --> 01:08:18.039
<v Speaker 5>and all grand theft auto alien like locations, which is

1305
01:08:18.199 --> 01:08:19.199
<v Speaker 5>really interesting.

1306
01:08:19.439 --> 01:08:25.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that it's on purpose, I think, Wow, well that

1307
01:08:25.640 --> 01:08:28.119
<v Speaker 2>brings me to a point based on what you just said,

1308
01:08:30.520 --> 01:08:34.800
<v Speaker 2>so something in my mind, I know you're a very

1309
01:08:34.840 --> 01:08:37.920
<v Speaker 2>busy guy. But like when we started our podcast four

1310
01:08:37.960 --> 01:08:40.000
<v Speaker 2>years ago, I'm not kidding you. I literally had a

1311
01:08:40.039 --> 01:08:42.960
<v Speaker 2>blackboard back in my old studio and I would like

1312
01:08:43.000 --> 01:08:45.279
<v Speaker 2>write down things we had to do, write down recording dates,

1313
01:08:45.279 --> 01:08:47.880
<v Speaker 2>write down guests I want, write down just all kinds

1314
01:08:47.880 --> 01:08:51.319
<v Speaker 2>of details, topics we were going to record all that stuff.

1315
01:08:51.439 --> 01:08:52.840
<v Speaker 2>And I had your name on that board for a

1316
01:08:52.840 --> 01:08:57.800
<v Speaker 2>long time, and and and most names that I've ever

1317
01:08:57.800 --> 01:08:59.840
<v Speaker 2>had on that board have been on the show now.

1318
01:09:00.079 --> 01:09:01.840
<v Speaker 2>So it's like, dang, where do we go from here?

1319
01:09:03.399 --> 01:09:05.159
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, you're right.

1320
01:09:05.880 --> 01:09:06.279
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1321
01:09:06.720 --> 01:09:10.039
<v Speaker 2>The thing, the thing that I always thought would be

1322
01:09:10.079 --> 01:09:14.920
<v Speaker 2>really cool if you ever had time for it, was

1323
01:09:14.960 --> 01:09:17.399
<v Speaker 2>to be with you and to see UFOs with you.

1324
01:09:17.800 --> 01:09:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Because something we do, Dakota is it's kind of a

1325
01:09:21.960 --> 01:09:26.279
<v Speaker 2>long story, but my dad is sort of like the

1326
01:09:26.399 --> 01:09:30.720
<v Speaker 2>orb guy. He's sort of changed. Do you remember how

1327
01:09:30.760 --> 01:09:35.000
<v Speaker 2>you're talking about how the rest of the world doesn't

1328
01:09:35.039 --> 01:09:37.000
<v Speaker 2>have any clue about like the psychic powers. But then

1329
01:09:37.039 --> 01:09:39.479
<v Speaker 2>you're in India and you see all that stuff firsthand,

1330
01:09:39.520 --> 01:09:41.479
<v Speaker 2>and you know that's kind of like my dad. But

1331
01:09:41.560 --> 01:09:45.439
<v Speaker 2>with the UFO world when I was a teenager, you know,

1332
01:09:45.479 --> 01:09:47.880
<v Speaker 2>people from the CIA or people from NASA would be

1333
01:09:47.920 --> 01:09:50.840
<v Speaker 2>knocking on our door, like investigating us and interrogating us.

1334
01:09:50.880 --> 01:09:54.399
<v Speaker 2>And because all because we reported our experiences on a

1335
01:09:54.399 --> 01:09:56.359
<v Speaker 2>website that we saw on TV and had no clue

1336
01:09:56.399 --> 01:09:59.520
<v Speaker 2>it was a CIA thing, not with the CIA, and

1337
01:10:00.119 --> 01:10:01.800
<v Speaker 2>you mean like, okay.

1338
01:10:01.560 --> 01:10:03.960
<v Speaker 3>You saw something and it was just a CIA.

1339
01:10:04.199 --> 01:10:07.159
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, let me explain. In two thousand and seven,

1340
01:10:07.359 --> 01:10:10.760
<v Speaker 2>my dad started and my brother I was thirteen at

1341
01:10:10.800 --> 01:10:13.000
<v Speaker 2>the time, thirty two now as of like what I

1342
01:10:13.039 --> 01:10:17.000
<v Speaker 2>guess two weeks ago, Happy birthday me and so my

1343
01:10:17.079 --> 01:10:20.560
<v Speaker 2>brother and my dad were out on the yeah making

1344
01:10:20.600 --> 01:10:25.880
<v Speaker 2>me laugh, man, that's what I haven't recorded since my birthday,

1345
01:10:25.960 --> 01:10:30.399
<v Speaker 2>if you must know. So anyway, two thousand and seven,

1346
01:10:30.439 --> 01:10:32.000
<v Speaker 2>my dad and my brother were out on the Cape

1347
01:10:32.239 --> 01:10:36.800
<v Speaker 2>River and they saw this these three huge balls of

1348
01:10:36.880 --> 01:10:41.199
<v Speaker 2>fire orange, you know, massive craft that were pure light.

1349
01:10:41.760 --> 01:10:44.000
<v Speaker 2>And then my brother saw these entities that were like

1350
01:10:44.000 --> 01:10:45.520
<v Speaker 2>three to four foot tall in the woods. They had

1351
01:10:45.560 --> 01:10:48.760
<v Speaker 2>red eyes. It was like very shocking and horrific for him.

1352
01:10:48.760 --> 01:10:50.239
<v Speaker 2>At the time, he had no clue what it was.

1353
01:10:52.520 --> 01:10:55.079
<v Speaker 2>My dad gets home. One of those little short entities

1354
01:10:55.079 --> 01:10:56.800
<v Speaker 2>is in the backyard. By the way. My dad was

1355
01:10:56.800 --> 01:11:00.600
<v Speaker 2>missing four hours, and they had three other adult men

1356
01:11:00.600 --> 01:11:03.479
<v Speaker 2>with them. My brother was seventeen, and then they had

1357
01:11:03.479 --> 01:11:06.079
<v Speaker 2>three other adult men. They were contractors for my dad.

1358
01:11:06.479 --> 01:11:08.319
<v Speaker 2>They had just finished building a house, so they went

1359
01:11:08.359 --> 01:11:10.960
<v Speaker 2>fishing to celebrate out in the woods of North Carolina.

1360
01:11:11.479 --> 01:11:13.439
<v Speaker 2>So all this stuff. These three adult men are looking

1361
01:11:13.479 --> 01:11:15.279
<v Speaker 2>everywhere from my dad. They're driving the truck around. They

1362
01:11:15.319 --> 01:11:17.600
<v Speaker 2>can't find him for four hours. Then he comes back

1363
01:11:17.640 --> 01:11:20.279
<v Speaker 2>and they're like, where the hell have you been? He

1364
01:11:20.399 --> 01:11:24.520
<v Speaker 2>was taken. And while my dad was gone, there was

1365
01:11:24.560 --> 01:11:26.840
<v Speaker 2>these you know, my brother was seeing these empties or whatever.

1366
01:11:27.239 --> 01:11:29.479
<v Speaker 2>And by the way, an ext has seen orbs with

1367
01:11:29.520 --> 01:11:33.000
<v Speaker 2>me if you can. He's he's seen some of this

1368
01:11:33.000 --> 01:11:36.520
<v Speaker 2>stuff too, and shout out an ext. My dad gets

1369
01:11:36.520 --> 01:11:40.720
<v Speaker 2>home that night, there's more entities in the backyard and

1370
01:11:41.119 --> 01:11:43.840
<v Speaker 2>my dad's like freaked out and he goes, okay, you

1371
01:11:43.880 --> 01:11:47.479
<v Speaker 2>got me, I surrender, And they told him telepathically, you

1372
01:11:47.479 --> 01:11:49.279
<v Speaker 2>don't understand. We're not here to hurt you. We're here

1373
01:11:49.319 --> 01:11:53.840
<v Speaker 2>to help you many. About ten months went by and

1374
01:11:54.119 --> 01:11:57.800
<v Speaker 2>all of us in my family continued to see things

1375
01:11:57.960 --> 01:12:02.279
<v Speaker 2>orbs entities running around the house, shadow like activity, poltergeist stuff.

1376
01:12:03.119 --> 01:12:06.920
<v Speaker 2>It got so bad for my family that my parents

1377
01:12:07.000 --> 01:12:10.279
<v Speaker 2>almost split up. People called social services on my dad.

1378
01:12:11.359 --> 01:12:13.560
<v Speaker 2>The pastor came in and was like throwing holy oil

1379
01:12:13.600 --> 01:12:15.319
<v Speaker 2>on my dad trying to exercise him. I was in

1380
01:12:15.359 --> 01:12:18.119
<v Speaker 2>the room. I saw it. It was horrific. My dad

1381
01:12:18.199 --> 01:12:21.279
<v Speaker 2>was so distraught that he reported it on a website

1382
01:12:21.319 --> 01:12:24.880
<v Speaker 2>called moufon. He saw it on a TV show said

1383
01:12:24.880 --> 01:12:26.720
<v Speaker 2>if you've had a sighting, go to mofon dot com.

1384
01:12:27.720 --> 01:12:30.560
<v Speaker 2>He reported it. We had no clue what was a

1385
01:12:30.560 --> 01:12:34.880
<v Speaker 2>CIA cover up. It was a front for them to

1386
01:12:34.920 --> 01:12:38.479
<v Speaker 2>spy on those citizens.

1387
01:12:37.119 --> 01:12:39.000
<v Speaker 3>So they were trying to get people that were having

1388
01:12:39.039 --> 01:12:40.640
<v Speaker 3>interesting experiences.

1389
01:12:40.159 --> 01:12:43.640
<v Speaker 2>Just yes, left it and shut them down and harass them.

1390
01:12:44.119 --> 01:12:46.279
<v Speaker 2>Very soon after that, we had a documentary come out

1391
01:12:46.279 --> 01:12:48.079
<v Speaker 2>in two thousand and eight on the Discovery Channel. It

1392
01:12:48.159 --> 01:12:51.880
<v Speaker 2>was horrible. It was called UFOs over Earth the Faabil Incident.

1393
01:12:52.039 --> 01:12:55.479
<v Speaker 2>They like faked the light detector test. They made my

1394
01:12:55.560 --> 01:12:57.439
<v Speaker 2>dad sit in a chair for like four hours. They

1395
01:12:57.439 --> 01:12:59.880
<v Speaker 2>asked them the same thirty questions over and over and

1396
01:13:00.079 --> 01:13:03.399
<v Speaker 2>over until he finally got so anxious that there was

1397
01:13:03.439 --> 01:13:05.840
<v Speaker 2>like a flutter on the needle, and they said, inconclusive,

1398
01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:08.640
<v Speaker 2>his heart jumped, and they showed that on TV. They

1399
01:13:08.640 --> 01:13:10.239
<v Speaker 2>did all kinds of stuff like that. They buried the

1400
01:13:10.319 --> 01:13:12.520
<v Speaker 2>data that they got, They got radiation samples in the yard.

1401
01:13:12.560 --> 01:13:16.000
<v Speaker 2>It was a It was a shit show. And I'm

1402
01:13:16.000 --> 01:13:18.039
<v Speaker 2>gonna wrap it up here. This is the abridged version.

1403
01:13:19.600 --> 01:13:21.760
<v Speaker 2>Five years go by, we're like in a living hell

1404
01:13:22.159 --> 01:13:24.439
<v Speaker 2>because everyone's making fun of us. We're coming home from

1405
01:13:24.479 --> 01:13:27.439
<v Speaker 2>school getting laughed at. All of my aunts and uncles

1406
01:13:27.479 --> 01:13:29.399
<v Speaker 2>and many of my cousins are like, y'all are crazy,

1407
01:13:29.439 --> 01:13:32.479
<v Speaker 2>you're demonically possessed, you're on drugs, you're dealing with the devil,

1408
01:13:32.520 --> 01:13:37.319
<v Speaker 2>you're liars. Whatever. We're still having experiences. We're still seeing orbs,

1409
01:13:37.359 --> 01:13:40.319
<v Speaker 2>we're still seeing entities. It's only increased year over year

1410
01:13:40.359 --> 01:13:43.800
<v Speaker 2>over the last eighteen years. Finally, in twenty twelve, my

1411
01:13:43.920 --> 01:13:47.720
<v Speaker 2>dad comes face to face with her behind me, this

1412
01:13:47.920 --> 01:13:49.960
<v Speaker 2>floating woman with blonde hair and blue eyes and a

1413
01:13:49.960 --> 01:13:55.479
<v Speaker 2>white gown, and she basically says, you know this is

1414
01:13:55.479 --> 01:13:58.800
<v Speaker 2>your burden. You gotta go tell your story. At this point,

1415
01:13:58.840 --> 01:14:01.479
<v Speaker 2>we had already talked to several people in the CIA,

1416
01:14:01.640 --> 01:14:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Army intelligence. Uh. They want to know what she wants,

1417
01:14:07.960 --> 01:14:09.960
<v Speaker 2>what the beings want, why they're coming to us, why

1418
01:14:10.399 --> 01:14:10.920
<v Speaker 2>the connection.

1419
01:14:11.279 --> 01:14:14.520
<v Speaker 3>So they ask you. They just they take you at

1420
01:14:14.560 --> 01:14:16.560
<v Speaker 3>face value and just say, okay, what they tell you.

1421
01:14:17.000 --> 01:14:20.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my dad had to write it down to be

1422
01:14:20.680 --> 01:14:23.439
<v Speaker 2>sent to the Pentagon. Barack Obama was briefed on it.

1423
01:14:23.439 --> 01:14:27.720
<v Speaker 2>It's really a crazy story, dude, And you know there's

1424
01:14:27.720 --> 01:14:30.039
<v Speaker 2>a reason. An ext was like, Bro, you gotta eat

1425
01:14:30.079 --> 01:14:33.000
<v Speaker 2>this guy, you know. But that's a long story for later.

1426
01:14:33.279 --> 01:14:37.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm giving you the abridged version. She said that she

1427
01:14:37.319 --> 01:14:40.119
<v Speaker 2>was the divine feminine, that she was the goddess, and

1428
01:14:40.159 --> 01:14:42.239
<v Speaker 2>that she gave the name Hathor. But she said throughout

1429
01:14:42.279 --> 01:14:46.840
<v Speaker 2>time she'd been known by many names, and she's the secret,

1430
01:14:46.880 --> 01:14:49.159
<v Speaker 2>missing part of the Trinity, and that basically the Age

1431
01:14:49.159 --> 01:14:51.239
<v Speaker 2>of Aquarius is coming. Go tell your story. And my

1432
01:14:51.319 --> 01:14:54.760
<v Speaker 2>dad's like, what the hell? He was a Christian, you

1433
01:14:54.800 --> 01:14:56.800
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm you know what I'm saying, the profound

1434
01:14:56.960 --> 01:15:00.279
<v Speaker 2>How shocked we were. And when word of that got out,

1435
01:15:00.359 --> 01:15:03.960
<v Speaker 2>the CIA swarmed us, and they investigated us to the

1436
01:15:04.079 --> 01:15:06.920
<v Speaker 2>ends of the earth. Every intelligence agency in the world

1437
01:15:06.920 --> 01:15:09.800
<v Speaker 2>has investigated us in some form or fashion, whether it's

1438
01:15:09.800 --> 01:15:11.439
<v Speaker 2>in person or remotely.

1439
01:15:11.600 --> 01:15:15.119
<v Speaker 3>Investigated you in which way.

1440
01:15:14.039 --> 01:15:19.760
<v Speaker 2>Asking us questions, coming to our property, phone calls, email, You.

1441
01:15:19.680 --> 01:15:21.159
<v Speaker 3>Guys are just happy to give it to them. You

1442
01:15:21.159 --> 01:15:22.760
<v Speaker 3>don't ever say no or nothing.

1443
01:15:22.960 --> 01:15:25.600
<v Speaker 2>You've always The thing about my dad is he's a

1444
01:15:25.680 --> 01:15:30.079
<v Speaker 2>very smart man, and he believes two things. First of all,

1445
01:15:30.119 --> 01:15:33.640
<v Speaker 2>southern hospitality. Second of all, it's like a game of chess,

1446
01:15:33.680 --> 01:15:35.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, like keep your friends close, with your enemies closer,

1447
01:15:35.880 --> 01:15:37.520
<v Speaker 2>see what people want, let them come in for a

1448
01:15:37.560 --> 01:15:40.479
<v Speaker 2>cup of coffee, and just listen and smile. My dad's

1449
01:15:40.600 --> 01:15:44.039
<v Speaker 2>belief always since I was a young child, he always said, son,

1450
01:15:44.399 --> 01:15:47.600
<v Speaker 2>you have two ears and one mouth, so be quiet

1451
01:15:47.600 --> 01:15:50.720
<v Speaker 2>and listen, you know, just sit there and listen what

1452
01:15:50.760 --> 01:15:53.359
<v Speaker 2>people have to say. He listens to what everybody has

1453
01:15:53.399 --> 01:15:55.800
<v Speaker 2>to say. And a lot of people, like we've gotten

1454
01:15:55.840 --> 01:15:58.520
<v Speaker 2>death threats from people in the DIA and some agencies,

1455
01:15:59.239 --> 01:16:03.840
<v Speaker 2>and it's like, you know, don't be gone. They're not

1456
01:16:03.920 --> 01:16:07.319
<v Speaker 2>all bad. Many of them are very bad. I'm very

1457
01:16:07.319 --> 01:16:10.079
<v Speaker 2>open about that on my show. But that's a tangent.

1458
01:16:10.239 --> 01:16:12.039
<v Speaker 2>The whole point I bring this up is to say

1459
01:16:13.000 --> 01:16:17.039
<v Speaker 2>what we do now eighteen years later that we're healed

1460
01:16:17.720 --> 01:16:20.960
<v Speaker 2>and we kind of understand what we're navigating here is

1461
01:16:21.000 --> 01:16:24.439
<v Speaker 2>we continue to see orbs. We see it with crowds

1462
01:16:24.439 --> 01:16:28.119
<v Speaker 2>of people. We've had crowds of a thousand people out

1463
01:16:28.159 --> 01:16:30.199
<v Speaker 2>in public. People come from all over the world, and

1464
01:16:30.199 --> 01:16:32.520
<v Speaker 2>we do that anywhere.

1465
01:16:34.159 --> 01:16:35.479
<v Speaker 3>You travel around and do it or.

1466
01:16:35.920 --> 01:16:38.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we travel. We do it at conferences. Sometimes that's

1467
01:16:38.840 --> 01:16:42.800
<v Speaker 2>a new thing in a building outside.

1468
01:16:42.960 --> 01:16:47.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, explain me, like, walk me through the experience.

1469
01:16:47.439 --> 01:16:53.439
<v Speaker 2>Well, the experience is it's God. It's a spiritual phenomenon. Right, So,

1470
01:16:53.640 --> 01:16:55.680
<v Speaker 2>and this is something you can do. You can hang

1471
01:16:55.760 --> 01:16:58.560
<v Speaker 2>up from this call. You can go to go Beckley Tepe.

1472
01:16:58.720 --> 01:17:00.720
<v Speaker 2>You can see it at go Beckley Tip. Go out

1473
01:17:00.720 --> 01:17:04.239
<v Speaker 2>at night, look up at the sky, at the night sky.

1474
01:17:05.199 --> 01:17:07.760
<v Speaker 2>And first step is you have to know that something

1475
01:17:07.880 --> 01:17:11.000
<v Speaker 2>is there. You have to in your mind call out

1476
01:17:11.079 --> 01:17:13.680
<v Speaker 2>to You could say it's Shiva. It doesn't give a

1477
01:17:13.720 --> 01:17:17.279
<v Speaker 2>crap which you think what it is. It's something, right,

1478
01:17:18.159 --> 01:17:21.800
<v Speaker 2>It's it's God, it's consciousness, it's the spirit. You know,

1479
01:17:22.640 --> 01:17:25.720
<v Speaker 2>we're all imagining God. You know that. I know that

1480
01:17:25.800 --> 01:17:27.119
<v Speaker 2>we're just connecting.

1481
01:17:26.680 --> 01:17:28.199
<v Speaker 3>With whatever form.

1482
01:17:29.399 --> 01:17:31.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so just call out in your mind, send your

1483
01:17:31.640 --> 01:17:35.079
<v Speaker 2>thoughts to this guy and say, hey, I'm here, I

1484
01:17:35.439 --> 01:17:38.359
<v Speaker 2>would love to see if you'd be willing to show

1485
01:17:38.399 --> 01:17:40.119
<v Speaker 2>me something. I'm open.

1486
01:17:41.680 --> 01:17:46.000
<v Speaker 3>That's it, And and and for for your guy, for

1487
01:17:46.079 --> 01:17:48.199
<v Speaker 3>you guys that manifest as an orb for your.

1488
01:17:49.159 --> 01:17:52.399
<v Speaker 2>And other things like things with wings. I mean, help

1489
01:17:52.439 --> 01:17:55.880
<v Speaker 2>me out, Alex, what have you seen turn off your

1490
01:17:55.920 --> 01:17:58.600
<v Speaker 2>little I get flashes of light a lot.

1491
01:17:58.840 --> 01:18:01.079
<v Speaker 3>And is this a shared experience or this is something

1492
01:18:01.119 --> 01:18:02.399
<v Speaker 3>you're personally experiencing.

1493
01:18:02.880 --> 01:18:07.560
<v Speaker 2>Both, yes, yeah, both. Yeah, it's happened with crowds. Any

1494
01:18:07.680 --> 01:18:10.039
<v Speaker 2>xt was there the night we had a thousand people

1495
01:18:10.039 --> 01:18:11.920
<v Speaker 2>in a crowd in California.

1496
01:18:13.159 --> 01:18:13.840
<v Speaker 3>And what happened?

1497
01:18:14.720 --> 01:18:17.479
<v Speaker 2>Oh, we saw orbs. You know, it was like my

1498
01:18:17.560 --> 01:18:19.359
<v Speaker 2>dad had a microphone for an hour and it was

1499
01:18:19.399 --> 01:18:23.079
<v Speaker 2>like he was a slotted time presenter and it was

1500
01:18:23.119 --> 01:18:26.000
<v Speaker 2>an evening under the stars, and he did his whole thing.

1501
01:18:26.119 --> 01:18:28.039
<v Speaker 2>He kind of like walked people through the process of

1502
01:18:28.039 --> 01:18:30.520
<v Speaker 2>connecting with your mind, sending your thoughts up to the heavens,

1503
01:18:30.560 --> 01:18:34.359
<v Speaker 2>and just being open. The biggest thing is removing your doubt,

1504
01:18:34.600 --> 01:18:37.479
<v Speaker 2>taking away your skepticism, because it's like trying to do

1505
01:18:37.520 --> 01:18:39.439
<v Speaker 2>a magic trick but you don't believe you can do it,

1506
01:18:39.880 --> 01:18:42.319
<v Speaker 2>You're probably not gonna do it, you know what I mean,

1507
01:18:42.640 --> 01:18:44.960
<v Speaker 2>trying to meditate or pray. But what if you're trying

1508
01:18:45.000 --> 01:18:46.279
<v Speaker 2>to go out of body but you don't think you

1509
01:18:46.319 --> 01:18:48.479
<v Speaker 2>can go out of body? What duh, You're gonna block yourself.

1510
01:18:48.520 --> 01:18:53.720
<v Speaker 2>It's no different. You have to be open. And what

1511
01:18:53.840 --> 01:18:56.800
<v Speaker 2>happened that night we saw several orbs. One of them

1512
01:18:56.880 --> 01:19:00.000
<v Speaker 2>looked like this glowing light with these like fluttering wind

1513
01:19:01.439 --> 01:19:04.199
<v Speaker 2>and some of the videos were recorded. I consider you

1514
01:19:04.279 --> 01:19:08.399
<v Speaker 2>some I have hundreds of ORB videos, but yeah, it's insane,

1515
01:19:08.560 --> 01:19:10.279
<v Speaker 2>So go ahead.

1516
01:19:10.600 --> 01:19:10.720
<v Speaker 4>Oh.

1517
01:19:10.800 --> 01:19:12.159
<v Speaker 3>I was just gonna say. I had a friend named

1518
01:19:12.199 --> 01:19:15.720
<v Speaker 3>Clara and she used to this is probably five six

1519
01:19:15.800 --> 01:19:18.920
<v Speaker 3>years ago. She would tell me the same thing where

1520
01:19:18.920 --> 01:19:22.039
<v Speaker 3>she would swear she could call these orbs and she

1521
01:19:22.039 --> 01:19:24.239
<v Speaker 3>would be showing me these videos of these orbs in

1522
01:19:24.279 --> 01:19:26.479
<v Speaker 3>her tree outside her house and stuff. Is this the

1523
01:19:26.520 --> 01:19:27.720
<v Speaker 3>same same phenomena?

1524
01:19:28.439 --> 01:19:30.479
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah.

1525
01:19:30.359 --> 01:19:31.920
<v Speaker 3>She would. She wouldn't refer to it as God. She

1526
01:19:31.960 --> 01:19:33.560
<v Speaker 3>would say like, I don't know. I think she thought

1527
01:19:33.600 --> 01:19:34.560
<v Speaker 3>there were aliens.

1528
01:19:35.079 --> 01:19:37.960
<v Speaker 2>That's fine, she can you could think what it is,

1529
01:19:38.000 --> 01:19:43.239
<v Speaker 2>but right, I think what's important, most important is to

1530
01:19:43.239 --> 01:19:45.760
<v Speaker 2>know that it's positive, you.

1531
01:19:45.720 --> 01:19:48.359
<v Speaker 3>Know, it's a reaffirming, a positive thing.

1532
01:19:48.760 --> 01:19:51.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's it's a positive phenomenon that it means

1533
01:19:51.199 --> 01:19:54.119
<v Speaker 2>no harm, that it's here to help. If you're you know,

1534
01:19:54.359 --> 01:19:55.960
<v Speaker 2>wanting to say it's an alid, if you wanted to

1535
01:19:56.000 --> 01:19:57.520
<v Speaker 2>say it's God, if you wanted to say it's a spirit.

1536
01:19:57.560 --> 01:20:00.640
<v Speaker 2>I think what's most important is understand that it is

1537
01:20:00.680 --> 01:20:03.920
<v Speaker 2>positive and that it means no harm, and that a

1538
01:20:03.960 --> 01:20:06.840
<v Speaker 2>lot of that stuff out there is CIA propaganda. I

1539
01:20:06.920 --> 01:20:11.439
<v Speaker 2>know that for a fact. I've talked to them about it.

1540
01:20:11.439 --> 01:20:14.800
<v Speaker 3>It's mighty. The water is on purpose, right, Yes, confusing.

1541
01:20:14.760 --> 01:20:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like bohemian grove stuff. Yeah, you know, dark

1542
01:20:18.920 --> 01:20:24.439
<v Speaker 2>propaganda to destroy people's souls. But it's really a positive thing,

1543
01:20:24.640 --> 01:20:28.880
<v Speaker 2>the UFO phenomenon. It's ninety five percent experiences are reported

1544
01:20:28.920 --> 01:20:32.199
<v Speaker 2>to be positive and angelic to the government. That was

1545
01:20:32.279 --> 01:20:36.000
<v Speaker 2>told to us by a very high level officer in

1546
01:20:36.039 --> 01:20:40.439
<v Speaker 2>the CIA. But yeah, it's the same thing. It's positive.

1547
01:20:40.840 --> 01:20:43.520
<v Speaker 2>And for years now I had your name on that board.

1548
01:20:43.560 --> 01:20:45.119
<v Speaker 2>I was thinking, man, how cool would that be to

1549
01:20:45.159 --> 01:20:48.000
<v Speaker 2>see this stuff with the coda, Because I believe my

1550
01:20:48.119 --> 01:20:53.720
<v Speaker 2>mission is sharing this with certain people that I've watched

1551
01:20:53.760 --> 01:20:55.560
<v Speaker 2>from a distance that I'm like they have a really

1552
01:20:55.600 --> 01:20:58.880
<v Speaker 2>good take on things. You know, you never know.

1553
01:20:59.319 --> 01:21:01.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm done. I would love to see some orbs

1554
01:21:01.880 --> 01:21:04.560
<v Speaker 3>or to see the woman. I mean I've seen the

1555
01:21:04.560 --> 01:21:08.039
<v Speaker 3>woman already, so yeah, no, that would be cool. I

1556
01:21:08.079 --> 01:21:09.680
<v Speaker 3>mean what do we do? How do we do it?

1557
01:21:10.239 --> 01:21:12.000
<v Speaker 3>If you just meet up and go out into a field?

1558
01:21:12.439 --> 01:21:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just yeah. I mean the sky's the limit, dude's

1559
01:21:16.119 --> 01:21:16.760
<v Speaker 2>endless operation?

1560
01:21:16.920 --> 01:21:17.479
<v Speaker 3>Either of you guys?

1561
01:21:17.479 --> 01:21:26.359
<v Speaker 2>Then in Texas, North Carolina, North Carolina. Nice, sky's the limit? Uh, Welmington,

1562
01:21:26.399 --> 01:21:27.800
<v Speaker 2>North Carolina. The beach.

1563
01:21:27.920 --> 01:21:31.199
<v Speaker 3>They used to run the Rhalmdas Foundation out of North Carolina.

1564
01:21:31.319 --> 01:21:34.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh really, And Duncan used to live here. I used

1565
01:21:34.560 --> 01:21:35.439
<v Speaker 2>to live in Ashville.

1566
01:21:35.560 --> 01:21:36.640
<v Speaker 3>In Ashville, that's where they did it.

1567
01:21:36.760 --> 01:21:40.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, cool, I didn't know that. That's very cool.

1568
01:21:40.439 --> 01:21:43.840
<v Speaker 2>You go enjoy your trip to go Backley Tepe and and.

1569
01:21:44.279 --> 01:21:46.479
<v Speaker 3>Well I just bought a hotel. I bought a hotel

1570
01:21:46.520 --> 01:21:47.000
<v Speaker 3>next to it.

1571
01:21:47.560 --> 01:21:49.000
<v Speaker 2>You bought a hotel.

1572
01:21:49.079 --> 01:21:50.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Me and my friend have been saving up money

1573
01:21:50.680 --> 01:21:54.199
<v Speaker 3>for like three years, and like last two weeks ago

1574
01:21:54.239 --> 01:21:56.640
<v Speaker 3>or something, we finally bought it. And that's I'm going

1575
01:21:56.640 --> 01:21:58.479
<v Speaker 3>to see it for the first time. I mean, it's

1576
01:21:58.520 --> 01:22:00.880
<v Speaker 3>really beat up and stuff. Going to be a few

1577
01:22:00.960 --> 01:22:02.239
<v Speaker 3>year project.

1578
01:22:01.880 --> 01:22:04.640
<v Speaker 2>But that's very cool, hoping.

1579
01:22:04.359 --> 01:22:06.439
<v Speaker 3>That like go Beckley Tepe becomes famous and then we

1580
01:22:06.479 --> 01:22:09.159
<v Speaker 3>can kind of have a nice place, right.

1581
01:22:09.279 --> 01:22:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's amazing, dude. Thanks, that's very cool.

1582
01:22:13.199 --> 01:22:14.880
<v Speaker 3>You guys come out there. We'll do it there. We'll

1583
01:22:14.880 --> 01:22:16.800
<v Speaker 3>see Go Beckley Tepe the world first thing.

1584
01:22:16.840 --> 01:22:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm down with that. We'll go there. Alex is

1585
01:22:20.039 --> 01:22:22.359
<v Speaker 2>down with that. Yeah, Now, that'd be cool and something

1586
01:22:22.359 --> 01:22:24.079
<v Speaker 2>that we want to do. Another part of my dad's

1587
01:22:24.079 --> 01:22:27.199
<v Speaker 2>story and if you're open to it, I know you're

1588
01:22:27.199 --> 01:22:29.000
<v Speaker 2>about to travel on a trip and you'll probably be

1589
01:22:29.000 --> 01:22:30.520
<v Speaker 2>gone for months, but at some point I'd like to

1590
01:22:30.560 --> 01:22:31.920
<v Speaker 2>send you a copy of my dad's book.

1591
01:22:31.960 --> 01:22:34.319
<v Speaker 3>But Egypt, I'll be home in December.

1592
01:22:34.800 --> 01:22:38.439
<v Speaker 2>Oh cool. Egypt is very central to our story because

1593
01:22:38.439 --> 01:22:41.720
<v Speaker 2>something that they showed them was the pyramids, these beings,

1594
01:22:41.760 --> 01:22:45.720
<v Speaker 2>and they said, when the red star Regulus aligns with

1595
01:22:45.760 --> 01:22:47.920
<v Speaker 2>the gaze of the Sphinx just before dawn and the

1596
01:22:47.920 --> 01:22:50.920
<v Speaker 2>constellation Leo, there will be a new knowledge that will

1597
01:22:50.920 --> 01:22:52.960
<v Speaker 2>come into the world and there's going to be a

1598
01:22:53.000 --> 01:22:55.439
<v Speaker 2>shift in consciousness. So we're like, what the hell, And

1599
01:22:55.479 --> 01:22:57.119
<v Speaker 2>we went and told NASA and they were like, Hey,

1600
01:22:57.119 --> 01:23:00.680
<v Speaker 2>that happens in twenty twenty six, So we're like, okay,

1601
01:23:01.079 --> 01:23:04.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, bet so for thirteen years now because that

1602
01:23:04.279 --> 01:23:06.359
<v Speaker 2>happened in twenty twelve, So for thirteen years now, there's

1603
01:23:06.439 --> 01:23:08.920
<v Speaker 2>kind of been this mystique building about this whole Egypt

1604
01:23:08.920 --> 01:23:11.680
<v Speaker 2>thing with twenty twenty six. So we're kind of talking

1605
01:23:11.720 --> 01:23:14.439
<v Speaker 2>about like some big Egypt thing next year, maybe we

1606
01:23:14.520 --> 01:23:17.439
<v Speaker 2>go to Egypt. That's kind of yeah, And any xt

1607
01:23:17.479 --> 01:23:19.960
<v Speaker 2>he got and I got to talking about this, and

1608
01:23:20.119 --> 01:23:22.239
<v Speaker 2>we were talking about some sort of Egypt thing. I

1609
01:23:22.239 --> 01:23:24.239
<v Speaker 2>don't know, there's no concrete details yet, but.

1610
01:23:25.319 --> 01:23:27.159
<v Speaker 3>Would be amazing. Have you been to Egypt before?

1611
01:23:27.760 --> 01:23:27.920
<v Speaker 4>No.

1612
01:23:29.159 --> 01:23:32.079
<v Speaker 3>I went to Egypt a few times, and man, the

1613
01:23:32.119 --> 01:23:33.079
<v Speaker 3>pyramids are crazy.

1614
01:23:33.760 --> 01:23:33.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1615
01:23:34.000 --> 01:23:37.439
<v Speaker 3>I know, obviously the pyramids are crazy, but like even

1616
01:23:37.520 --> 01:23:39.600
<v Speaker 3>when you know the pyramids are crazy, they still blow

1617
01:23:39.640 --> 01:23:42.640
<v Speaker 3>you away. I remember I came to Egypt at night

1618
01:23:42.720 --> 01:23:45.239
<v Speaker 3>for the first time. I'm by myself, travel the world

1619
01:23:45.239 --> 01:23:48.239
<v Speaker 3>for the first time. Egypt, so fuck, you know, like

1620
01:23:48.279 --> 01:23:51.159
<v Speaker 3>the pyramids finally, Yeah, a kid, You're like, that's the

1621
01:23:51.880 --> 01:23:54.560
<v Speaker 3>that's I'll never get to see this, Yeah, for real,

1622
01:23:54.760 --> 01:23:56.159
<v Speaker 3>never get to I never even thought in a million

1623
01:23:56.199 --> 01:23:57.520
<v Speaker 3>years I would get to see it. That's like the

1624
01:23:57.600 --> 01:24:03.079
<v Speaker 3>dream magic place, right, and you're driving and Egypt is

1625
01:24:03.880 --> 01:24:06.199
<v Speaker 3>it's Egypt, you know, it's kind of a little beat up,

1626
01:24:06.199 --> 01:24:09.039
<v Speaker 3>a little rough, and you're driving down one freeway for

1627
01:24:09.199 --> 01:24:12.119
<v Speaker 3>maybe thirty minutes and there's billboards and lights and it's

1628
01:24:12.199 --> 01:24:15.560
<v Speaker 3>very bright, and then it finally kind of stops and

1629
01:24:15.600 --> 01:24:19.640
<v Speaker 3>then you just see desert and the sky and the

1630
01:24:19.680 --> 01:24:26.039
<v Speaker 3>stars and the moon and then just silhouettes giant in

1631
01:24:26.119 --> 01:24:30.479
<v Speaker 3>the horizon, and the closer you get, the bigger they get,

1632
01:24:30.600 --> 01:24:33.439
<v Speaker 3>and you just see them from like the moonlight, you know,

1633
01:24:33.640 --> 01:24:36.680
<v Speaker 3>just these black things in the distance as you get

1634
01:24:36.680 --> 01:24:38.920
<v Speaker 3>closer and closer and closer, like, oh my god, dude,

1635
01:24:39.159 --> 01:24:43.319
<v Speaker 3>how do they do this? Yeah, it towers over the city.

1636
01:24:43.920 --> 01:24:47.319
<v Speaker 2>I want to experience this so bad. And EXT was like, yo, me,

1637
01:24:47.479 --> 01:24:50.119
<v Speaker 2>you and Dakota should do again. But I was like,

1638
01:24:50.159 --> 01:24:53.159
<v Speaker 2>but I haven't met him yet. But now that we met,

1639
01:24:53.199 --> 01:24:56.439
<v Speaker 2>you know, but I'm always here. We had talked about

1640
01:24:56.479 --> 01:24:59.319
<v Speaker 2>some some potential thing for the future, but.

1641
01:24:59.680 --> 01:25:01.239
<v Speaker 3>It would yeah, I love it, it.

1642
01:25:01.199 --> 01:25:02.840
<v Speaker 2>Would be It would be very cool.

1643
01:25:02.880 --> 01:25:04.640
<v Speaker 3>Did you get he's the egypt Man, you know.

1644
01:25:05.079 --> 01:25:07.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's like probably the world's best at.

1645
01:25:07.079 --> 01:25:10.119
<v Speaker 3>This and he's also like the Turkey guy. I learned

1646
01:25:10.119 --> 01:25:12.279
<v Speaker 3>a lot about Turkey from his early videos of all

1647
01:25:12.319 --> 01:25:14.840
<v Speaker 3>those places called anty and that kind of stuff. He's

1648
01:25:14.960 --> 01:25:15.479
<v Speaker 3>he's og.

1649
01:25:16.159 --> 01:25:19.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he he's very I I kind of had an

1650
01:25:19.840 --> 01:25:22.680
<v Speaker 2>experience with him like you had with your friend in India,

1651
01:25:23.119 --> 01:25:25.319
<v Speaker 2>the one you know I had. I had an experience

1652
01:25:25.319 --> 01:25:28.039
<v Speaker 2>with him, like, dude, I need to know this guy. Yeah,

1653
01:25:28.319 --> 01:25:31.399
<v Speaker 2>he knows his ship, do you know. He's really into

1654
01:25:31.439 --> 01:25:32.840
<v Speaker 2>the Rosa Crucian stuff and all that.

1655
01:25:32.880 --> 01:25:33.840
<v Speaker 3>But and hip.

1656
01:25:34.760 --> 01:25:37.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, he's going to come out in November and

1657
01:25:37.520 --> 01:25:39.760
<v Speaker 2>do the show and we're we're scheming on some sort

1658
01:25:39.760 --> 01:25:44.479
<v Speaker 2>of Egypt thing. So I mean, yeah, I mean, let

1659
01:25:44.520 --> 01:25:49.479
<v Speaker 2>me know, a wait, No, that won't work. I think

1660
01:25:49.680 --> 01:25:51.560
<v Speaker 2>I think he'll be gone till December.

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01:25:51.760 --> 01:25:55.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm gone till December, and then I'm gone again January,

1662
01:25:55.119 --> 01:25:58.199
<v Speaker 3>February and March probably, so I probably won't be back

1663
01:25:58.199 --> 01:26:01.159
<v Speaker 3>into the US UN till April springtime.

1664
01:26:01.840 --> 01:26:04.199
<v Speaker 2>Well, no worries. We'll figure it out. And in the meantime,

1665
01:26:04.680 --> 01:26:08.239
<v Speaker 2>your homework is I'm gonna send you some stuff. I'm

1666
01:26:08.279 --> 01:26:11.039
<v Speaker 2>gonna send you some videos that I have acquired over

1667
01:26:11.079 --> 01:26:14.600
<v Speaker 2>the years, either myself or my father or friends. Uh

1668
01:26:14.680 --> 01:26:17.079
<v Speaker 2>special mentioned I'm gonna send you a video for my

1669
01:26:17.079 --> 01:26:21.000
<v Speaker 2>friend Mela. She's an anime video game voice actress, and

1670
01:26:21.760 --> 01:26:23.319
<v Speaker 2>she reached out to me because she had one of

1671
01:26:23.359 --> 01:26:25.840
<v Speaker 2>the most profound or videos I've ever seen. I'm gonna

1672
01:26:25.840 --> 01:26:29.000
<v Speaker 2>send you that when we hang up, but I'll send

1673
01:26:29.000 --> 01:26:30.640
<v Speaker 2>you some other things, like a little excerpt for my

1674
01:26:30.720 --> 01:26:32.600
<v Speaker 2>dad's book that you can you can look at and

1675
01:26:32.640 --> 01:26:35.319
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of like how we connect, you know. Yeah,

1676
01:26:35.399 --> 01:26:39.600
<v Speaker 2>and just interested anytime ever that you're out under the

1677
01:26:39.680 --> 01:26:43.319
<v Speaker 2>night sky look up like the spirits don't take breaks.

1678
01:26:44.439 --> 01:26:46.760
<v Speaker 2>They don't take breaks. It's not like you have to be.

1679
01:26:47.439 --> 01:26:49.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna give it a genuine try, and I'm gonna let.

1680
01:26:49.199 --> 01:26:51.800
<v Speaker 2>You know, well, hey, you know what, there is no try.

1681
01:26:52.359 --> 01:26:55.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're right, You're right. You just said, you just said,

1682
01:26:55.640 --> 01:26:57.079
<v Speaker 3>don't block it, right, Okay.

1683
01:26:56.920 --> 01:27:00.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it all you have to do and listen, There

1684
01:27:00.960 --> 01:27:03.800
<v Speaker 2>is no do. This is not active. You sit out

1685
01:27:03.800 --> 01:27:06.079
<v Speaker 2>and look at the night sky and you just just

1686
01:27:06.239 --> 01:27:08.600
<v Speaker 2>even think the thought, man, it would be cool to

1687
01:27:08.640 --> 01:27:11.680
<v Speaker 2>see and oh you don't see anything tonight, that's fine,

1688
01:27:11.800 --> 01:27:14.199
<v Speaker 2>look out tomorrow, look out the next night. The night

1689
01:27:14.239 --> 01:27:17.399
<v Speaker 2>Skuy's there forever and ever, and there's always stuff up

1690
01:27:17.439 --> 01:27:18.520
<v Speaker 2>there that you're not noticing.

1691
01:27:18.640 --> 01:27:19.039
<v Speaker 4>Is moving.

1692
01:27:19.119 --> 01:27:21.680
<v Speaker 2>I promise you you're gonna see something.

1693
01:27:23.039 --> 01:27:25.560
<v Speaker 3>I know, or to let you know, I'm gonna let

1694
01:27:25.600 --> 01:27:26.199
<v Speaker 3>you know for sure.

1695
01:27:26.239 --> 01:27:26.520
<v Speaker 2>Please do.

1696
01:27:26.680 --> 01:27:28.159
<v Speaker 3>And Turkey's got beautiful skies.

1697
01:27:28.680 --> 01:27:31.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I've seen things in Germany with my wife, her

1698
01:27:31.239 --> 01:27:35.119
<v Speaker 2>families from Germany. We've seen things in the Grand Canyon.

1699
01:27:35.159 --> 01:27:37.600
<v Speaker 2>We've seen things around Vegas. We've seen things. I mean,

1700
01:27:37.640 --> 01:27:39.640
<v Speaker 2>what are some other crazy places? Did we see anything

1701
01:27:39.680 --> 01:27:43.199
<v Speaker 2>in Mexico? Maybe Mexico I saw one or two. They're

1702
01:27:43.239 --> 01:27:45.399
<v Speaker 2>all over the world. Dude, They're time and space.

1703
01:27:46.199 --> 01:27:46.560
<v Speaker 4>What is it?

1704
01:27:47.359 --> 01:27:52.279
<v Speaker 3>Is it? Is it dimensional things that are part of Earth?

1705
01:27:52.399 --> 01:27:55.000
<v Speaker 3>Or are they part of just reality? Are they beaming

1706
01:27:55.039 --> 01:27:56.880
<v Speaker 3>out of just everywhere? Like if we were to go

1707
01:27:56.920 --> 01:27:59.399
<v Speaker 3>to a different planet, you think you could call them

1708
01:27:59.439 --> 01:28:00.479
<v Speaker 3>into that too.

1709
01:28:01.159 --> 01:28:03.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean I don't have all the answers, but

1710
01:28:03.439 --> 01:28:05.600
<v Speaker 2>what they communicated to my dad is that they come

1711
01:28:05.640 --> 01:28:08.399
<v Speaker 2>from the eternal world, or as we would say, the

1712
01:28:08.439 --> 01:28:12.920
<v Speaker 2>spirit world, that when we die, we become as they do,

1713
01:28:13.000 --> 01:28:15.600
<v Speaker 2>we go into an orb and we that life here

1714
01:28:15.680 --> 01:28:18.279
<v Speaker 2>is like a journey of the soul. And and some

1715
01:28:18.399 --> 01:28:20.680
<v Speaker 2>of this stuff they told him face to face. Some

1716
01:28:20.760 --> 01:28:23.000
<v Speaker 2>of this stuff was through hypnotic regression, you know what

1717
01:28:23.039 --> 01:28:25.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, where you sort of like start to recall

1718
01:28:25.800 --> 01:28:30.000
<v Speaker 2>these things in hypnosis states. But yeah, they said this

1719
01:28:30.119 --> 01:28:32.119
<v Speaker 2>is the journey of the soul, and it's it's all

1720
01:28:32.159 --> 01:28:36.439
<v Speaker 2>an illusion and a lot of the stuff that's true

1721
01:28:36.439 --> 01:28:39.880
<v Speaker 2>an Eastern tradition, Western tradition. I'm hearing all this shit

1722
01:28:39.960 --> 01:28:42.600
<v Speaker 2>as a kid, and I'm like, whoa, I gotta i

1723
01:28:42.640 --> 01:28:46.119
<v Speaker 2>gotta start really digging deep here. So that's kind of

1724
01:28:46.119 --> 01:28:48.319
<v Speaker 2>why I started the podcast, was it's like a journey

1725
01:28:48.399 --> 01:28:51.239
<v Speaker 2>of learning and sharing it with others.

1726
01:28:50.880 --> 01:28:56.159
<v Speaker 3>And so it's amazing. Thank you for yeah, of course,

1727
01:28:56.199 --> 01:28:57.680
<v Speaker 3>thank you for inviting me. I'm glad we got to

1728
01:28:57.680 --> 01:28:59.600
<v Speaker 3>finally do it. Is there anything else crazy you want

1729
01:28:59.600 --> 01:29:01.239
<v Speaker 3>to know? The stories you want me to pulled out?

1730
01:29:02.319 --> 01:29:04.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I feel pretty happy with that.

1731
01:29:04.199 --> 01:29:04.399
<v Speaker 5>Man.

1732
01:29:04.520 --> 01:29:06.720
<v Speaker 2>I do like to end with the question though, and

1733
01:29:06.760 --> 01:29:10.680
<v Speaker 2>that question is if everybody if you could imagine like

1734
01:29:10.840 --> 01:29:14.000
<v Speaker 2>everybody was listening, everybody in the world, and you had

1735
01:29:14.000 --> 01:29:15.039
<v Speaker 2>that microphone and.

1736
01:29:15.000 --> 01:29:17.560
<v Speaker 3>You had the world stage to say to the world,

1737
01:29:18.159 --> 01:29:18.840
<v Speaker 3>what would.

1738
01:29:18.600 --> 01:29:20.840
<v Speaker 2>You say to the world, What's the most important thing?

1739
01:29:21.199 --> 01:29:22.760
<v Speaker 2>Or it's like if someone had a gun to your head,

1740
01:29:22.760 --> 01:29:24.479
<v Speaker 2>and it's like, what's the most important thing? You know

1741
01:29:24.520 --> 01:29:26.159
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, Like, what's that nugget there?

1742
01:29:26.199 --> 01:29:27.760
<v Speaker 3>Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on, let me think.

1743
01:29:28.279 --> 01:29:32.640
<v Speaker 2>Let's see sty quick bang. It's the fight club treatment,

1744
01:29:32.880 --> 01:29:35.199
<v Speaker 2>the fight club treatment. Yeah.

1745
01:29:35.760 --> 01:29:39.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm not good at on the spot special messages, but

1746
01:29:39.680 --> 01:29:41.159
<v Speaker 3>I guess, like, really, what I want to say to

1747
01:29:41.199 --> 01:29:43.279
<v Speaker 3>the world is kind of what I said earlier, is

1748
01:29:43.319 --> 01:29:47.560
<v Speaker 3>just like, don't get lost right now, because it's very important.

1749
01:29:47.560 --> 01:29:50.319
<v Speaker 3>They actually want us lost. They don't want you to

1750
01:29:50.359 --> 01:29:53.479
<v Speaker 3>know who you are. And there's big forces right now

1751
01:29:53.520 --> 01:29:56.840
<v Speaker 3>in the world that are doing everything that they can

1752
01:29:57.119 --> 01:30:00.359
<v Speaker 3>to make sure that you stay unaware, because because the

1753
01:30:00.359 --> 01:30:03.760
<v Speaker 3>more on where you are, the more the evil gets

1754
01:30:03.760 --> 01:30:06.000
<v Speaker 3>to function, the more the corruption gets to function, the

1755
01:30:06.039 --> 01:30:08.640
<v Speaker 3>more the political world gets to function, the wars get

1756
01:30:08.680 --> 01:30:11.680
<v Speaker 3>to function. Because we are all have no clue who

1757
01:30:11.680 --> 01:30:16.680
<v Speaker 3>we are. So to the world, I want everyone, like

1758
01:30:16.800 --> 01:30:21.479
<v Speaker 3>you're saying, go out, touch the grass, touch the earth,

1759
01:30:21.520 --> 01:30:24.720
<v Speaker 3>and remember for a second who you are. Remember that

1760
01:30:24.840 --> 01:30:27.880
<v Speaker 3>you're not this person that's we're in America. We have podcasts,

1761
01:30:27.920 --> 01:30:29.840
<v Speaker 3>this is all new, and this is all just some

1762
01:30:30.680 --> 01:30:33.960
<v Speaker 3>temporary thing. We are human beings in a mystery right now,

1763
01:30:34.000 --> 01:30:36.760
<v Speaker 3>and we forget it because we're having too much fun

1764
01:30:36.800 --> 01:30:41.119
<v Speaker 3>play in the theater of being modern YouTubers and all

1765
01:30:41.199 --> 01:30:44.600
<v Speaker 3>this stuff. You know, we're hypnotized fully, but remember we

1766
01:30:44.720 --> 01:30:49.119
<v Speaker 3>need to remember who we are because this identity is

1767
01:30:49.159 --> 01:30:51.119
<v Speaker 3>not going to save us, and the only thing that's

1768
01:30:51.119 --> 01:30:53.840
<v Speaker 3>going to save us is the part of us that

1769
01:30:53.960 --> 01:30:57.760
<v Speaker 3>is behind it. And that's all spirituality is. That's all

1770
01:30:57.760 --> 01:31:00.920
<v Speaker 3>this stuff is is about excavating and getting to that

1771
01:31:01.039 --> 01:31:04.520
<v Speaker 3>place behind it. All the false identities, the false illusions

1772
01:31:04.560 --> 01:31:07.199
<v Speaker 3>of the world, that all the hypnosis that we're stuck in,

1773
01:31:07.520 --> 01:31:10.720
<v Speaker 3>it's about digging past that and getting to that point

1774
01:31:10.760 --> 01:31:13.359
<v Speaker 3>where the Buddho's pointing too, So the mystics are pointing to.

1775
01:31:13.359 --> 01:31:15.840
<v Speaker 3>So everyone is pointing us to that place. And if

1776
01:31:15.880 --> 01:31:17.760
<v Speaker 3>I had a moment to speak to the world, I

1777
01:31:17.800 --> 01:31:20.920
<v Speaker 3>would point them there if I could, if I can

1778
01:31:21.039 --> 01:31:22.159
<v Speaker 3>right now, point look there.

1779
01:31:22.479 --> 01:31:23.800
<v Speaker 2>But don't get stuck on the finger.

1780
01:31:23.880 --> 01:31:25.600
<v Speaker 3>People, don't get stuck on the finger.

1781
01:31:26.000 --> 01:31:28.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, look what's past it? No, that's awesome, man, thank you.

1782
01:31:29.920 --> 01:31:33.399
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I guess the other thing is like, for

1783
01:31:34.039 --> 01:31:35.960
<v Speaker 2>my listeners who might not have heard of you or

1784
01:31:35.960 --> 01:31:39.079
<v Speaker 2>know who you are, where can we send them.

1785
01:31:39.159 --> 01:31:44.439
<v Speaker 3>My name is Dakota Wint. You can find me on YouTube,

1786
01:31:44.600 --> 01:31:48.159
<v Speaker 3>you can find me on Instagram, you can find me

1787
01:31:48.439 --> 01:31:50.520
<v Speaker 3>in most lives. If you're hearing about me now, then

1788
01:31:50.520 --> 01:31:52.479
<v Speaker 3>we've been doing this. We've been fist bumping each other

1789
01:31:52.479 --> 01:31:54.920
<v Speaker 3>for a long time. So yeah, just go to YouTube

1790
01:31:55.000 --> 01:31:57.720
<v Speaker 3>check me out. Maybe if you like the spiritual rants

1791
01:31:57.840 --> 01:31:59.880
<v Speaker 3>or this or that, you'll find something cool there.

1792
01:32:00.319 --> 01:32:02.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Dakota of Earth.

1793
01:32:01.840 --> 01:32:02.720
<v Speaker 3>Dakota of Earth.

1794
01:32:02.800 --> 01:32:06.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, never forget that. One special mention to my

1795
01:32:06.560 --> 01:32:08.760
<v Speaker 2>wife who's been sitting here the whole time, because she

1796
01:32:09.680 --> 01:32:13.239
<v Speaker 2>she put me onto Dakota's channel. Uh probably twelve years

1797
01:32:13.239 --> 01:32:14.439
<v Speaker 2>ago when we started dating.

1798
01:32:15.279 --> 01:32:16.399
<v Speaker 3>So that's crazy.

1799
01:32:17.239 --> 01:32:19.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. All right, well.

1800
01:32:19.079 --> 01:32:21.199
<v Speaker 3>Full circle here. We are big family now.

1801
01:32:21.600 --> 01:32:24.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, so hang on the line for just a second.

1802
01:32:24.239 --> 01:32:27.960
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna we're going to close it out. When we

1803
01:32:28.000 --> 01:32:32.760
<v Speaker 2>do that in a very mundane and simple but ritualistic

1804
01:32:32.800 --> 01:32:36.000
<v Speaker 2>way where every single time that we remember, we just

1805
01:32:36.000 --> 01:32:40.039
<v Speaker 2>say bye guys. You ready, okay, all right, bye.

1806
01:32:39.880 --> 01:32:41.439
<v Speaker 3>Guys, bye guys. Peace.

1807
01:32:41.600 --> 01:32:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Om om oh good one. The people that listen to

1808
01:32:46.960 --> 01:32:48.119
<v Speaker 2>our show are called the omis.

1809
01:32:48.600 --> 01:32:51.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh I love it is that My Omi's.

1810
01:32:50.960 --> 01:32:53.399
<v Speaker 2>Like yes, yes, ended there.

1811
01:32:53.439 --> 01:32:54.479
<v Speaker 3>So that's right.

1812
01:32:57.359 --> 01:33:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Weird things happen in the backyard. Sohow said the SYS.

1813
01:33:09.039 --> 01:33:10.119
<v Speaker 4>So weird.

1814
01:33:11.640 --> 01:33:15.680
<v Speaker 1>Coming closer to us, closer players straight up.

1815
01:33:18.960 --> 01:33:28.000
<v Speaker 4>Like smiring on the inside of it. No one knows. Man, Wow,

1816
01:33:29.920 --> 01:33:45.840
<v Speaker 4>come w I ever got there? Got a super solid

1817
01:33:49.319 --> 01:34:09.800
<v Speaker 4>nut