Speaker 1: Weird things happened in the Weird, Weird Weird.
Speaker 2: All right, guys, welcome to another very special episode. I
Speaker 2: know I say that about every guest, but when it
Speaker 2: is for real, I really mean it. I'm definitely getting
Speaker 2: the same vibes as when we had Dunkin Trussell on
Speaker 2: the show, because similar to the way that we you know,
Speaker 2: had him come on and it was something that we
Speaker 2: were like, I really want this, I really want this.
Speaker 2: This lovely gentleman who's joining us today is somebody that,
Speaker 2: for four years now one of my most desired guests
Speaker 2: owner show. So we are joined by the amazing Dakota
Speaker 2: Wind and this is an amazing god I'll even know
Speaker 2: what to call it, synchronicity, manifestation. Yeah, just the fact
Speaker 2: that you're here with us today is like, you know,
Speaker 2: really awesome. So what's up to nice?
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for that. I also love Duncan,
Speaker 3: so I'm happy to that you. I see Duncan also
Speaker 3: as like this glimmering just psychedelic or about there.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: I love Duncan and yeah, he's a big inspiration of mine.
Speaker 3: He was one of the big reasons actually that got
Speaker 3: me connected to Ramdas. Oh, it's a weird little entanglement
Speaker 3: spider Web. But I had been a Ramdas fan already,
Speaker 3: Like just if you're a hippie or you're into psychedelics,
Speaker 3: you find ram Das. And I had been also just
Speaker 3: a fan of the Joe Rogan podcast and Duncan was
Speaker 3: a guest on there always and especially in the earlier days,
Speaker 3: and he would mention Ramdas all the time. That's so cool,
Speaker 3: you know that there's just like a guy on the
Speaker 3: JIRI talking about ram Das. And he would talk about
Speaker 3: the retreats. And one time I just sent him a
Speaker 3: message on Twitter Duncan maybe like almost ten years ago now,
Speaker 3: and I was like, Hey, I'm kind of poor, but
Speaker 3: like I would love to come to these retreats. How
Speaker 3: does that? How does that work? I'm a YouTuber, you know,
Speaker 3: can you do something for me? And he was like,
Speaker 3: just email this guy ragu and and you know, cross
Speaker 3: your fingers. And I did and I ended up going
Speaker 3: to a retreat and ended up in Maui meeting ram
Speaker 3: Das And yeah, I don't even think Duncan knows, but
Speaker 3: he's kind of this, you know, the domino that pushed
Speaker 3: me in that direction.
Speaker 2: That's really cool, man. He has that effect on people.
Speaker 2: But I was comparing you to him, and you don't
Speaker 2: know this context, but there's a little bit on our show.
Speaker 2: We've been going four years now, and I think it
Speaker 2: was episode fifty five. We had Duncan on and it
Speaker 2: was the weirdest thing because we were like dream guests. Duncan, Trussel,
Speaker 2: Dakota went, and there's several others. Some of them I've had,
Speaker 2: some of them I have not. And Duncan, just I
Speaker 2: swear to you, is where does it sounds? He just
Speaker 2: reached out to me out of the blue and he's like,
Speaker 2: I'd love to come on your show. And we were
Speaker 2: like what because I had a friend of a friend
Speaker 2: who was his friend and it's kind of a similar
Speaker 2: how we met. But anyway, Yeah, it's just manifestations.
Speaker 3: Of the universe. It's just so funny. It's just I
Speaker 3: don't even know if it's manifestation. I used to believe
Speaker 3: in manifestation a lot. I think there's just whatever's gonna
Speaker 3: happen is meant to happen. And I think we can
Speaker 3: we can use the manifestation stuff as a way to
Speaker 3: try to like feel and control of the universe and
Speaker 3: like we're willing it in. But there's just some giant,
Speaker 3: complex network that's happening that brings people together for whatever reason.
Speaker 3: And I believe it's all just pre agreed contracts from
Speaker 3: some different dimension.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: You actually, man, I'm gonna I'm gonna fist bump you
Speaker 3: in this life. You know, even if it's just for
Speaker 3: a moment, We're gonna give that fist bump, just for remembrance.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: I completely agree with that perspective, and I'm glad you
Speaker 2: said that. I say manifestation, but what I mean by
Speaker 2: that is just like something really strange that you've had
Speaker 2: in your mind becomes true. Yeah, I'm not here, I'm
Speaker 2: not writing stuff down. I'm not well, actually I did write.
Speaker 3: I have done that too. I'm not going to say
Speaker 3: that stuff don't work because I've done that writing. I've
Speaker 3: done the writing, and it definitely helps you, you know,
Speaker 3: like give it's like a mantra if you write something
Speaker 3: down or you know, it gives your brain a framework
Speaker 3: of focus. So I'm not like against that. I'm not
Speaker 3: talking about the manifestation crowds out there, So I don't
Speaker 3: want them to send me some voodoo or something. Well,
Speaker 3: I know, reiki.
Speaker 2: Yeah true, And and you know that's also something I'm
Speaker 2: very fascinated and but more particularly, the reason I was
Speaker 2: so excited to have you on the show is because
Speaker 2: I'm very interested in Eastern mysticism, Eastern religion, any anything Eastern.
Speaker 2: But but here's the thing, I don't really know anything
Speaker 2: about it beyond a layman perspective. And uh, you know,
Speaker 2: what do you know, we have an expert, So I'm not.
Speaker 3: An expert, but I know a little bit. And I mean,
Speaker 3: I like, I talk about it a lot and I
Speaker 3: think about it a lot, so we can have fun
Speaker 3: with the conversation. What do you like to what about
Speaker 3: it is interesting to you?
Speaker 2: Well, the thing is like knowing what your content was before,
Speaker 2: just from the outside looking in, Like this is the
Speaker 2: thing that fascinates me so much about your whole thing
Speaker 2: that you're doing as you were a YouTuber back in
Speaker 2: the mid two thousands or like late twenty tens.
Speaker 3: I'll know that because it goes back way, it goes
Speaker 3: back far.
Speaker 2: But yeah, and like from the moment I even started
Speaker 2: dating my wife, she's all like, you know this YouTube channel,
Speaker 2: look at this he went into Bohemian Grove, And I'm.
Speaker 3: Like, that's true. Not a lot of people know that
Speaker 3: story because I deleted that video, but yeah, I've seen it.
Speaker 3: That's way back in the day I went I went
Speaker 3: to Bohemian Grove.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So we've been kind of tracking your evolution this
Speaker 2: whole time, because you know, my wife put me onto
Speaker 2: your channel. Yeah, and I noticed over the years that
Speaker 2: you started going to a more spiritual direction. So like
Speaker 2: from my eyes looking in, there's been this very powerful
Speaker 2: evolution of your belief, of your way of life to
Speaker 2: where now it's like how many months a year are
Speaker 2: you in India or in Peru or in you know,
Speaker 2: Papua New Guinea living with you know.
Speaker 3: Almost always? Yeah, I've never I haven't read this is
Speaker 3: my I've been home in Detroit now with my family
Speaker 3: for like two and a half months. Is my first
Speaker 3: time being home in this long for like in ten years.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: It's nice to just been like chilling and just like
Speaker 3: have my bed and stuff.
Speaker 2: But so that's my question. My question is like what
Speaker 2: happened or what I want to get into the evolution
Speaker 2: of of you, How how this became your life? What
Speaker 2: was it about this Eastern philosophical way of life and
Speaker 2: living and thinking that rained you in. There had to
Speaker 2: be some glimmer of something that you said.
Speaker 3: You know, there's so many moments when I go back
Speaker 3: and look, you know, and the moments in those moments,
Speaker 3: and I'm sure you can relate, because I feel like
Speaker 3: this might just be a human a human life quality.
Speaker 3: But there's so many moments when I look back where
Speaker 3: I'm like, maybe it felt insignificant in the moment, but
Speaker 3: it kind of stuck, and now I don't know. I
Speaker 3: kind of go through my file cabinet, my mind and
Speaker 3: my past, and I can see all the dots kind
Speaker 3: of connect and all these unrelated moments that in my life.
Speaker 3: When I was in the haze of it, it didn't
Speaker 3: seem related. But now when I go back, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: I've always been on I've always been going in this
Speaker 3: direction that I'm going. I just didn't fully have the foresight.
Speaker 3: And so there's not like a single moment I can
Speaker 3: pinpoint it to, but there's yeah, there's many moment. I
Speaker 3: think it's always just in all our lives. I think
Speaker 3: we're just destined to go in the direction that we're
Speaker 3: going to go and for some reason, mine has just
Speaker 3: been weird. And I I mean, really, when I look
Speaker 3: back the big moments for me, I was really kind
Speaker 3: of like a confused and lost, rebellious teenager atheist and
Speaker 3: running away from home and very punk rock and you know,
Speaker 3: just out in the streets. You know, i'd be home,
Speaker 3: I'd quit school and and yeah, I was just a
Speaker 3: bad kid overall. And so I see this as being
Speaker 3: such a catalyst for not only like the way that
Speaker 3: I traveled and helping me be in like situations and
Speaker 3: stuff like that, because I'm from Detroit and we like,
Speaker 3: you know, Detroit is kind of a rough city and
Speaker 3: we it teaches you how to travel the world if
Speaker 3: you if you hang out in Detroit, and that makes sense.
Speaker 3: So like I, when I look back at that, I
Speaker 3: can see how just my environment gave me the life
Speaker 3: skills to navigate rough areas of like of India or
Speaker 3: something like that, or Papula and New Guinea, which is
Speaker 3: an insane country, very friendly people. It's not dangerous, but
Speaker 3: you know, it's got those stigmas. But there's little spiritual
Speaker 3: moments too, Like one weird one is I remember when
Speaker 3: I was in elementary school and we were all at
Speaker 3: the playground. The night before, I had been in my
Speaker 3: room touching my wall and just like in my head,
Speaker 3: playing like a game in my head, like am I
Speaker 3: touching the wall? Or is the wall touching me? And
Speaker 3: I remember going to my friends and like just posing
Speaker 3: this question to them, and it sounds stupid because that's
Speaker 3: a stupid thing, you know, Isn't that just what the
Speaker 3: what is the deep meaning in that? But I'm realizing
Speaker 3: now when I look back, that these were the first
Speaker 3: flashes of me inquiring into like non dual understandings and stuff.
Speaker 3: You know, I was beginning the process of just thinking
Speaker 3: of the life. You know, am I touching that?
Speaker 2: It's a weird question, but like, yeah, you're questioning reality.
Speaker 3: Fact I can see like I've always had I came
Speaker 3: in with that sort of thing, and I think I
Speaker 3: really do at this point. I mean, I would have
Speaker 3: been less confident to say this in my past, but
Speaker 3: I really do believe that in reincarnation, and I think
Speaker 3: that somehow our energy has habits and we have tendencies
Speaker 3: and we could see it in our own life. But
Speaker 3: I think these tendencies are also mental or spiritual, like
Speaker 3: it's the projection. Our tendencies are actually the projection of
Speaker 3: our experience. So when we die, our habits are going
Speaker 3: to cling. We're going to cling to our habits, and
Speaker 3: that's going to create an experience that represents our habits.
Speaker 3: Because that's I think, just how consciousness works. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's a really simple way to try to explain.
Speaker 4: That, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, I can't really pinpoint it to anything,
Speaker 3: but I think we come in with what we come
Speaker 3: in with, and our path is destined and we are
Speaker 3: just you know, a karma that has happened forever ago,
Speaker 3: and we're just the current domino that's going to be
Speaker 3: pushed forward.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's amazing stuff, and I agree with every
Speaker 2: bit of that. Admittedly I come from a very sort
Speaker 2: of traumatic Christian upbringing. And then I know, you probably
Speaker 2: haven't had time or don't know much about our story
Speaker 2: or haven't looked into it yet. But we're we're very
Speaker 2: like supernatural worldwide, like known supernatural case. Right, So when
Speaker 2: these things started happening, I was thirteen years old, started
Speaker 2: seeing lights in the sky, entities popping and out of
Speaker 2: my bedroom, you know, all over the place that you know,
Speaker 2: the government got involved, started studying us, knocking on our
Speaker 2: door asking questions. So to thirteen year old, you know,
Speaker 2: thirteen year old brain, I started questioning everything I knew, Like,
Speaker 2: why is it when I look through this Bible the
Speaker 2: answers aren't in here, but my pastor tells me every
Speaker 2: answer to the universes in this book. Something's weird. Long
Speaker 2: story short. As I got older and started maturing, I
Speaker 2: really fell into a lot of hermetic stuff, alchemy, you know,
Speaker 2: Gnostic Christianity, a lot of more Western esoteric things. And
Speaker 2: I think at the point that I'm at now is
Speaker 2: I'm I'm sort of interested in bridging into more Eastern
Speaker 2: spiritual stuff. But it's like, where do you begin. You know,
Speaker 2: I've come to the same conclusions from a Western lens.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think if you get to the core
Speaker 3: of these Eastern teachings, what they're trying to tell you
Speaker 3: is that there is ultimately just a truth, and here
Speaker 3: is a variety of methods that we that that can
Speaker 3: get you there. Like the idea of yoga is not
Speaker 3: stretching or the sort of things that people think about
Speaker 3: in America, but the yoga means union. So the methods
Speaker 3: of Yoga are the methods to become unified, to be
Speaker 3: to become, to be you, to be in the union
Speaker 3: with everything. So these are the here are the science
Speaker 3: of unity. And there's lots of there's a yoga for
Speaker 3: every type of person. The Buddha, you know, like a
Speaker 3: lot of people will say that the Buddha would would
Speaker 3: have so many contradictions, or a lot of teachers would
Speaker 3: have these contradictions, and it's because they have to speak
Speaker 3: to where the they have to prescribe the medicine for
Speaker 3: the for the sickness. You know, they're not every now,
Speaker 3: there's not a one answer for all people. So yoga
Speaker 3: works this kind of way. And I think what the
Speaker 3: core of yoga is that we're all practicing yoga no
Speaker 3: matter what religion you're you're practicing it is a form
Speaker 3: of connection. Yoga is not like a religious thing necessarily,
Speaker 3: Like you don't have to be a Hindu to practice yoga.
Speaker 3: It's just a concept. And yeah, I think the idea
Speaker 3: that Hinduism or these Eastern religions are really just a
Speaker 3: science of spirituality or the science of self realization. And
Speaker 3: you can be you can believe in Jesus and be
Speaker 3: a Hindu, or you can be an atheist and be
Speaker 3: a Hindu because or you can believe in Shiva or
Speaker 3: Christian or any of these gods. There's a million gods
Speaker 3: that use from and they're all real. Every every truth
Speaker 3: is real because God is beyond all of that. Any
Speaker 3: form you give it or want to not give it is.
Speaker 3: It's true in the sense that you can experience that
Speaker 3: in your perspective. But the idea is that beyond all
Speaker 3: of that, there is something, a more mysterious thing that's happening.
Speaker 3: And these methods when you get to the beyond the
Speaker 3: philosophical stuff, the experiential part that it's trying to point
Speaker 3: you towards is that there's a big mystery that's hiding
Speaker 3: no matter what religion you're in. And like the Hindus,
Speaker 3: it's not about religion. All these things are methods. All
Speaker 3: these gods, all these practices are methods. They're trying to
Speaker 3: their fingers pointing to the moon. There's this have you
Speaker 3: heard this idea before? Like the finger pointings to the moon.
Speaker 3: Everyone gets lost and get the fingers, like, look at
Speaker 3: what I'm pointing to. So all of these methods are
Speaker 3: pointing to the mystery behind it. All religions actually are
Speaker 3: pointing to the same mystery. They're all attempts to say, hey,
Speaker 3: like there's something happening that's we don't know what it is,
Speaker 3: but here's the closest thing we got. It's this thing
Speaker 3: in the sky and all you know, the human ideas
Speaker 3: go crazy when they're confronted with the mystery. But Hinduism
Speaker 3: has in Buddhism has a variety of methods that can
Speaker 3: bring you into the little world experience to where you
Speaker 3: can feel it, or not only feel it, but become it.
Speaker 3: And I think what's lacking with a lot of religions
Speaker 3: like Christianity and and I wouldn't say Islam, actually I
Speaker 3: bet Islam. I bet people in Islam are having deep
Speaker 3: meditation experiences just based on the especially especially with especially
Speaker 3: with Sufism. But I feel like Christianity really lacks it,
Speaker 3: and I feel like our culture really lacks that. But
Speaker 3: there are like if you talk about religious or mystical
Speaker 3: experiences to normal people, it's like, you know, it's it's
Speaker 3: such a shrug worthy type of thing. It's not because
Speaker 3: all over the world forever, it's always been there. And
Speaker 3: I've had the experience and you have had the experience,
Speaker 3: so like you know, it's possible to have the experience.
Speaker 3: And I think what Hinduism is trying to point to
Speaker 3: is that running through all of us there is a
Speaker 3: thread of the mystery. Yeah, and the Buddha is trying
Speaker 3: to point He calls it the buddhahood or nirvana or
Speaker 3: maksha or the enlightenment. Experience is when you realize that
Speaker 3: all of this stuff that you think you were doing, Oh,
Speaker 3: I'm Dakota and I have this life, I have all
Speaker 3: this stuff when at the end of it is just
Speaker 3: a story. You can't take your name with you. Your
Speaker 3: body is just a temporary point of matter that came
Speaker 3: together for a minute. But the thing that moves you
Speaker 3: is always existing and it's always it's always just continuing.
Speaker 3: It's the infinite energy that is just It is the
Speaker 3: mystery itself, and it runs through all of us. It
Speaker 3: doesn't matter what religion you are, what nationality or species
Speaker 3: or anything you know. It is the It is the
Speaker 3: point where everything comes out of the silence, where sound emerges,
Speaker 3: the zero point, the zero point. It's a shiva. That's
Speaker 3: what shiva means, is this point people think is this
Speaker 3: God and stuff, but Shiva is actually means this point.
Speaker 2: Cool. That's is that why they have like the lingams
Speaker 2: that are like a point.
Speaker 3: Then Shiva lingham is a very interesting symbol too, because
Speaker 3: these are the oldest symbols of Sheva, or one of
Speaker 3: the oldest symbols of Siva is the shiva ling And
Speaker 3: it's like this, Yeah, it's like this pillar that comes
Speaker 3: out and it sits kind of like the UFO behind you.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like this base thing coming out and
Speaker 3: it means actually, I think I got one somewhere, No,
Speaker 3: not next to me, But it means the masculine and feminine.
Speaker 3: The bottom part is what's called a yoni and it
Speaker 3: means a vagina. This is called the lingam. It means
Speaker 3: a penis.
Speaker 2: And it doesn't just mean the masculineminine.
Speaker 3: It's the masculine feminine dance. It's the unity of Shiva,
Speaker 3: which is the pillar, which is the stability, the foundation,
Speaker 3: and the feminine, which is the creative stage in which
Speaker 3: life unfolds on. So the shiveling is a symbol that
Speaker 3: represents that duality in unity, the play of duality in unity.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 3: And it's crazy because It's like a ten thousand year
Speaker 3: old symbol, maybe even older. How are you, guys, how
Speaker 3: is this philosophical depth happening at those times? You know,
Speaker 3: we still aren't grasping that stuff today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. It's absolutely insane. And I feel like
Speaker 2: when you start to pull these threads, it has to
Speaker 2: point to some sort of Atlantis type existence. Do you
Speaker 2: get into that stuff much?
Speaker 3: I don't, and I don't know if it has to
Speaker 3: do with Atlantis. I think that this is just a
Speaker 3: truth of reality, and I think like I think many
Speaker 3: humans have tapped into it and species and I think
Speaker 3: like it, I think you just tap into that. I
Speaker 3: even think AI is going to bring us to that point.
Speaker 3: But tell me, why do you think of why Atlantis?
Speaker 2: Because if you look into the mystery schools of Western tradition,
Speaker 2: and many of them are are blended with Eastern tradition, like,
Speaker 2: for example, I don't know if you've heard much about
Speaker 2: the Helena Blovotsky or the Theosophist or whatever, but a
Speaker 2: lot of these Western schools are very ingrained with Eastern practice.
Speaker 2: Long story short, you have people like the Templar Knights,
Speaker 2: the Rosicrucians, obviously the Freemasons. They're the most popular, and
Speaker 2: they have this bad stigma. I mean it goes on
Speaker 2: and on, all these different groups that are all claiming
Speaker 2: that this knowledge actually and it's all the same knowledge
Speaker 2: pretty much. It's like, you know, the mystical knowledge, the
Speaker 2: mystery and awakening, you know, the process of awakening, and
Speaker 2: the esoteric truths. They all claim that it comes from
Speaker 2: a much older version of existence, like Atlantis, some sort
Speaker 2: of society before hours.
Speaker 3: I think it's possible, actually definitely. You know something crazy
Speaker 3: that you just as you're saying this, something I was
Speaker 3: looking into recently is they found Vedic gods in stones
Speaker 3: written in Syria. Wow, all same names, same names, Yeah,
Speaker 3: oh this could be. It's like, no, this is the
Speaker 3: same name India. Assyria is like what the fuck?
Speaker 2: There are shamanic tribes in Mexico and someone from like
Speaker 2: a free Masonic lodge or or a templar night. You know,
Speaker 2: they have these secret handshakes and when they meet, they
Speaker 2: have the same secret handshakes and they mean the same thing.
Speaker 2: So it's like, how is that possible? Okay, Well it
Speaker 2: goes deeper, you know. So the ideas that basically if
Speaker 2: there was some sort of existence of humans that was
Speaker 2: more spiritually advanced, maybe technologically all of that stuff it
Speaker 2: was destroyed somehow. There's different theories about that. Obviously, will
Speaker 2: probably never know the full story, but the idea is
Speaker 2: that the spiritual I say, quote right, the spiritual successor
Speaker 2: of Atlantis went to Tibet and then went to Egypt.
Speaker 3: So a lot of people say, is Tibetan wisdom supposed
Speaker 3: to be from them?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Oh you know about Tibetan? Do you know about their
Speaker 3: leg booking and a little bit? God dude, it's crazy
Speaker 3: a little bit. It's so crazy. It's like they mapped
Speaker 3: out the afterlife completely. And I believe it because it
Speaker 3: matches the psychedelic experience to a t.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been. I don't know if you've ever heard
Speaker 2: of them in Row Institute, but.
Speaker 3: I think I have. That's I think I have.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, yes, it's it's a very cool place. I'm
Speaker 2: actually involved with them. They're a wonderful institution. In four days,
Speaker 2: I'm going to certify to be a trainer with them
Speaker 2: and and have the uh the position to help people
Speaker 2: go through like guided meditation experiences. It's can't recommend it enough,
Speaker 2: and we could talk about that later now all you
Speaker 2: want whatever, But it's a wonderful place and their whole
Speaker 2: thing is about going out of body m and I've
Speaker 2: been out of body there many times. And after experiencing that,
Speaker 2: I've come to realize, Okay, the stories from Tibet, why
Speaker 2: why not levitation? You know what I mean? The out
Speaker 2: of body stuff is true. The Book of the Dead
Speaker 2: stuff is true. I've experienced it. I've gone out of body.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, I'm questioning everything, just you know, I.
Speaker 3: Know when I had the it just sounds like I
Speaker 3: almost hesitate to say it because it just sounds so
Speaker 3: ridiculous to say that you've been out of body. And
Speaker 3: it's so if someone would have told me this in
Speaker 3: my teenage years, I would have just been like, fuck off,
Speaker 3: you lunatic. You can actually have the experience, and it's
Speaker 3: inesting and I've had it. I've had it with my
Speaker 3: many times. Actually, I amazing, especially on psychedelics. I can
Speaker 3: I know how to get there through a certain meditation
Speaker 3: I can do and I can almost leave my body
Speaker 3: one hundred percent.
Speaker 4: Of the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just yeah, it has your question everything. And
Speaker 3: then when you read these stuff that these Tibetans talk
Speaker 3: about You're like, dude, these guys.
Speaker 2: Are not good.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty wild, right, And if you talk to
Speaker 2: somebody in a Western esoteric tradition, they will say, and
Speaker 2: I know this because I've done I've talked to these people,
Speaker 2: they will say that the whole point of all of it,
Speaker 2: in the ancient past, the rituals, all of it was
Speaker 2: about going out of body, even in the West. So
Speaker 2: I've kind of like restructured my entire belief system to
Speaker 2: think that that's like such an important thing. You know
Speaker 2: that The idea is that in the ancient past they
Speaker 2: were extremely obsessed to the point of having methodic rituals
Speaker 2: just to go out of body to try to communicate
Speaker 2: with God or have some sort of Actually yeah, still
Speaker 2: of course, but even crazier when you think about back then,
Speaker 2: you know, so, yeah.
Speaker 3: It is crazy that it's just been maintained. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: the idea of like this ancient laws civilization's fun. I
Speaker 3: don't know if it's necessary because I think, like, I
Speaker 3: think humans are just tapped in somehow, dude, we just
Speaker 3: have like some we're like in that we're in a
Speaker 3: limbo of evolution where we're like half in the spirit world,
Speaker 3: half in the human world. Yeah, if you look around,
Speaker 3: I mean obviously we look around in nothing here we
Speaker 3: can relate to. We're clearly on a different fucking trajectory
Speaker 3: and the rest of these animals everything's on instinct. We
Speaker 3: are just there's things that are similar. You know, maybe
Speaker 3: ants build little societies, humans built, but like it's just
Speaker 3: not the same. They think, you say, what do you say?
Speaker 2: They think there's they think yeah, and they don't have
Speaker 2: much reasoning past that. They're they're animals and they're beautiful, wonderful.
Speaker 3: We do that too, but we we also have the
Speaker 3: we have the choice, right, we have choice. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: that's so weird because what the fuck is that? How
Speaker 3: does that happen?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And here we are. We just are like the only
Speaker 3: thing on this planet that that's in a situation where
Speaker 3: it can question it situation. It's almost like a cosmic joke.
Speaker 3: It's like you just wake up and no one knows.
Speaker 3: It's like, come on, what is this a bit?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 2: Well, I can promise you, Jakota that on this show
Speaker 2: you are very well believed and it is not weird
Speaker 2: to talk about out of body experiences.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we can talk about them.
Speaker 2: We got to talk about them, so yeah, I gotta hear.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 3: The first time I had one, it was on LSD
Speaker 3: and MDMA together. I was like twenty two years old,
Speaker 3: and I it was like overwhelming. So I was like
Speaker 3: left to be away by myself and I went and
Speaker 3: late in the room and I instantly started like projecting
Speaker 3: out of body and having all these different visions of
Speaker 3: potential scenarios. Some of them were good, some of them
Speaker 3: were bad, and there was like flashing and completely immersive,
Speaker 3: like maybe like a real day dream. I wouldn't say
Speaker 3: I was out of body yet, but I was fully
Speaker 3: captured by my like the hypnosis of my visions. I
Speaker 3: was like scared when I was scared and really feeling it.
Speaker 3: But then after that I kind of broke through, Like
Speaker 3: once I was able to like calm myself down, I
Speaker 3: broke through and it was like it was like I
Speaker 3: was in every part of the room. It wasn't like
Speaker 3: I was out of my body and I was floating around,
Speaker 3: but it was as if my consciousness just like like
Speaker 3: popped out of my body and it just encompassed everything.
Speaker 3: It expanded, yeah, expanded, because I hear some people talk
Speaker 3: about like I've came out of my body and I
Speaker 3: went out of the roof, and like I didn't really
Speaker 3: have that. It was just like if I wanted to
Speaker 3: go out of the roof, I could just go there.
Speaker 3: But it wasn't like I was floating around. It was
Speaker 3: just like, uh, it's not thing, so you can't say it,
Speaker 3: but it's just this Yeah, I don't know, you just
Speaker 3: become it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's like there's a there's a shift in
Speaker 2: your your perspective. I've had things like that too, where
Speaker 2: it's like I'm laying there, I'm meditating and then all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, it's like I'm seeing from behind my head,
Speaker 2: Like whoa, what the heck? Yeah, you don't always just
Speaker 2: float out of your body and go through the wall
Speaker 2: like Casper. Yeah people do that.
Speaker 3: I've heard people do that.
Speaker 2: I know what you mean because I've experienced this.
Speaker 3: It's just like the boundaries completely dissolve and you're just
Speaker 3: I mean, it sounds cheesy to say one with everything,
Speaker 3: but you kind of just like are you just become
Speaker 3: one with everything? And I had this experience I was
Speaker 3: in like what I guess is the akashak records because
Speaker 3: I could think of anything and immediately understand it.
Speaker 2: Wow, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean that sounds crazy, but not really. Uh. I
Speaker 3: was just like I don't even fully remember what I
Speaker 3: was asking, which is the craziest part. When you have
Speaker 3: these like crazy psychedelic experiences, You'll have the whole universe
Speaker 3: showed to you, and then you have to come back
Speaker 3: and like ripe, wipe your drool and can't remember anything.
Speaker 3: It's like cosmic joke again.
Speaker 2: But no, that's amazing, man.
Speaker 3: That was my first time. And then after that, I
Speaker 3: was like just really scratching my head, like what the hell.
Speaker 3: No one's talking about this, Like how everyone's because I
Speaker 3: was at a party. Everyone's out here on acid. Everyone's
Speaker 3: just like, what the hell I'm in the Akashak records
Speaker 3: and you guys are like out there listening to whatever
Speaker 3: drake or something and it's I don't know. It really
Speaker 3: threw me down a chain of events because I just
Speaker 3: seek answers and none of none of my friends, they
Speaker 3: were like, dude, you were just high. It was like nah, dude,
Speaker 3: it was something different. This is not just being high.
Speaker 3: I like experience. I had like a spiritual experience. And yeah,
Speaker 3: those moments were really me in the stove, you know,
Speaker 3: that were leading me to having going to India. And
Speaker 3: these these experiences are what led me to India. Wow,
Speaker 3: because I was like, how are these guys talking about
Speaker 3: it in India? There's no acid in India, there's no
Speaker 3: mushrooms in India. How are these guys getting to this stuff?
Speaker 3: Because when you read the books like the Back of
Speaker 3: Ahito or the Apanashads, it says the same exact experience
Speaker 3: that we're talking about, like these out of body experiences
Speaker 3: and how to achieve them and what they mean. And
Speaker 3: it's a whole science of this stuff. And yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean India, as far as I can tell, is the
Speaker 3: most in depth living shamanic religion on the planet. And
Speaker 3: I mean they're they're using not only plants, they're using
Speaker 3: dead bodies, not all of them, of course, very rare
Speaker 3: to see that, but the whole spect of magical potential
Speaker 3: is happening and thriving and alive in India.
Speaker 2: I'm very curious to hear about some of that because
Speaker 2: I know you've had so much firsthand experience, Like let's
Speaker 2: just get into that, Like, what's some of the crazy
Speaker 2: magical stuff that you've seen.
Speaker 3: Magical in which way.
Speaker 2: Well, like you said, the shamanic, like you've you've seen
Speaker 2: that they do rituals with things like that bodies or
Speaker 2: with plants, or I've seen some of your videos where
Speaker 2: you know, obviously a lot of cannabis that's always like Gandra, yeah, ganza,
Speaker 2: just any of that kind of stuff. I'm curious about you.
Speaker 2: I'm really aperience with that.
Speaker 3: I really wanted to have that experience of the Guru
Speaker 3: where he touches you and on the mountaintop, and but
Speaker 3: it never happened. And I tried everything. I was like, man,
Speaker 3: where these guys that can read your mind and are levitating?
Speaker 3: And I looked for years and years and years and
Speaker 3: I did everything I could. I still have never found
Speaker 3: those types of guys, but I did guys that meditate
Speaker 3: on top of dead bodies, particularly this guy Mani Kundin.
Speaker 3: Baba is his name. Baba is like it's like a
Speaker 3: respectful title. In India. Baba g is like what you
Speaker 3: call older people or holy men. In India. Baba is
Speaker 3: like someone that has wisdom, and so we call all
Speaker 3: these holy men are called Baba, even if they're younger
Speaker 3: and so Mani Kundin Baba, he's a Sagori from South
Speaker 3: India and he does all these kind of things. He's
Speaker 3: covered in the dead ash And what's the a goory?
Speaker 3: So a gory is in Hinduism is very complex. But
Speaker 3: there's lots of different belief systems in Hinduism. I guess
Speaker 3: you could kind of relate it to like a Dalasism
Speaker 3: or Baptists or Protestants, right, something like that, but it's
Speaker 3: a little bit maybe even the extremes are more in India,
Speaker 3: like you can have totally different beliefs like not even
Speaker 3: it doesn't even seem like the same thing, and it's
Speaker 3: all still under the same umbrella. And so these guys,
Speaker 3: this guy meditated on his own mom's body. Oh sorry,
Speaker 3: So the agory is a big history. But the agory
Speaker 3: are what are called like countric practitioners. They do the
Speaker 3: very taboo stuff. And the idea is that you don't
Speaker 3: get in their ideas that they're not trying to reach
Speaker 3: enlightenment through i don't know, helping old women across the
Speaker 3: road or feeding people. They're trying to get enlightenment through
Speaker 3: cutting the head off the ego completely by doing the
Speaker 3: most disgusting things, the things that you would be repulsed by.
Speaker 3: They're diving into it intentionally because that's where the juice
Speaker 3: of the of the karma is, because that's where you're
Speaker 3: clinging to. So they're going there and cutting all the
Speaker 3: chains off, completely dissociating with society. They walk naked, they
Speaker 3: cover themselves in the ash of dead people, so they're
Speaker 3: all like white. They usually have crazy hair, sometimes skulls.
Speaker 3: Most of them are bullshit. Most of them you find
Speaker 3: are bullshit, but some of them are not bullshit. And
Speaker 3: some of them do crazy stuff like this, like, you know,
Speaker 3: meditate on your own mom's body and the idea is
Speaker 3: that he was trying to pray for her ashi transforms
Speaker 3: into her next experience. It's right, yeah, but it's shocking
Speaker 3: to everybody, even to people you they're like, oh, you know,
Speaker 3: black magic. And so I've done a lot of crazy
Speaker 3: stuff with these guys. Animal sacrifices. I don't participate, well,
Speaker 3: sometimes I do, but I usually just watch. I don't
Speaker 3: kill any animals myself or anything like that, but I've
Speaker 3: watched these guys kill animals. I've watched these guys do extracisms.
Speaker 3: I've watched these guys uh wear skulls of human heads.
Speaker 3: You know What's one time we were in what was
Speaker 3: called Kamakia, one of these most famous un trick temples
Speaker 3: in India. Uh, maybe even two thousand years old or something,
Speaker 3: very ancient temple and still today they're maintaining the tantra practice.
Speaker 3: There more like this type of stuff.
Speaker 2: Like the glory kind of the shocking stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes it's sometimes it's very shocking, sometimes it's not.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's peaceful, but there there is moments where it
Speaker 3: gets really intent and especially like festival times. Like if
Speaker 3: you went during the day, maybe it just was a
Speaker 3: normal temple. But during the festivals and stuff like when
Speaker 3: the goddesses come alive and there in their beliefs and stuff,
Speaker 3: all the crazy shit happens, and we were there for
Speaker 3: the big festival of the temple. Uh. This is there's
Speaker 3: an idea in Hinduism, just to give a little backstory,
Speaker 3: where Satti Shiva's wife, she fell to earth or corpse,
Speaker 3: she died, and they built temples where different body parts
Speaker 3: felt fell. This is where her vagina fell. So it's
Speaker 3: like super holy and in the summertime, the monsoon makes
Speaker 3: the river turn red, so they believe it for menstruating.
Speaker 3: So they go here and they sacrifice animals and they
Speaker 3: do blood rituals. And I met this this guy Mani
Speaker 3: Kuanden baba there. I had met him already, but I
Speaker 3: just was like meeting him here. And I walk up
Speaker 3: there and he's doing an exorcism at the temple. There's
Speaker 3: like a guy freaking out and he's like.
Speaker 2: We were just talking about this at dinner. By the way,
Speaker 2: one of your exorcism videos, but I have not seen it.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to say, we were just talking about this.
Speaker 3: It seems to be pretty normal in India, these extorcisms.
Speaker 3: But yeah, so we walked up on an extracism. Oh shit, dude,
Speaker 3: it's gonna be crazy. It's gonna be a crazy night.
Speaker 3: Just this how it's starting off. And they're all preparing
Speaker 3: because a lot of these baba's they come to show
Speaker 3: off at all the festivals, you know, like right meditating
Speaker 3: with my skulls and I'm covered in that. People come,
Speaker 3: you know, really you know, sneak up and get their
Speaker 3: blessings and get donations or something. It's old business. But
Speaker 3: they were preparing for the festival and they had this
Speaker 3: skull necklace and they were putting lemons in the eyes.
Speaker 3: It looked all scary. The skull was all red, yeah,
Speaker 3: in the skull eyes like for its eyeballs, like pushing
Speaker 3: lemons into the eyes where the person used to see.
Speaker 3: And I walked up. I was like, Hey, what is
Speaker 3: the meaning of all this stuff? And and I was
Speaker 3: like what is this? Like the eyes like this lemons
Speaker 3: And the guy just looks at me and he goes,
Speaker 3: it just looks cool. It does look cool, I'll give
Speaker 3: you that. So it's not always a lot of these
Speaker 3: agories are not always like, you know, really getting it.
Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot of Sometimes there's a lot
Speaker 3: of show. Yeah, like like a theater, it's a lot
Speaker 3: of theater. It's a lot of showing off and h
Speaker 3: But I knew this when I was hanging out with
Speaker 3: these guys, you know, you can kind of tell. And
Speaker 3: there was a one guy in the corner and I
Speaker 3: walked up to him with my camera, all kind of
Speaker 3: arrogant YouTuber and I start talking to him and I
Speaker 3: don't even I don't even remember what he said, but
Speaker 3: he just this guy is the only guy I've ever
Speaker 3: met who has the ability to suck the air out
Speaker 3: of the room and like suspend you in a moment
Speaker 3: like we're talking about like going out of body. It's
Speaker 3: almost like he brings you to that point right before
Speaker 3: where it's.
Speaker 2: Like everyone's listening. Yeah, and I.
Speaker 3: Don't know how he does it, but I've been talking
Speaker 3: to this guy now and visiting him for about five years.
Speaker 3: His name is Bivani Baba. He's also in a gory
Speaker 3: and he was happened to be here because he's interested
Speaker 3: in that stuff and this is lifestyle he follows. But
Speaker 3: he doesn't wear the skulls and he doesn't cover himself
Speaker 3: in the ash. And we were just talking and somehow
Speaker 3: I don't know what he did, but he like casts
Speaker 3: a spell on me or something and is able to
Speaker 3: give me like a spiritual experience just through his just
Speaker 3: through his talking. Because a lot of Abas they talk
Speaker 3: a lot of shit and they say the same things
Speaker 3: and it's like oneness.
Speaker 2: And that was your guru moment.
Speaker 3: Here's a guru moment a little bit. Yeah, that was
Speaker 3: that was it? Yeah, well he yeah, I don't know
Speaker 3: if i'd call him guru. Guru is a big thing,
Speaker 3: but he's definitely my biggest teacher.
Speaker 2: And I just mean like metaphorically, there was a real
Speaker 2: transference of spiritual power for me for sure.
Speaker 3: When they talk about when I talk about transmitting power
Speaker 3: in India, I believe it because of that experience.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I've been visiting this guy now for like five years,
Speaker 3: and he told me the secret of the agory. And
Speaker 3: he said, the secret of the Agori, all these guys
Speaker 3: that are meditating on the dead bodies and wearing the
Speaker 3: skulls are missing the point completely, and that the truth
Speaker 3: of agore a gory is that you yourself become the
Speaker 3: dead body that you you are, everything you have, you
Speaker 3: sacrifice to God. That's the true meaning. Everyone's confused and
Speaker 3: they're using these dead bodies trying to get powers and
Speaker 3: all this stuff.
Speaker 2: They're playing with props. Yeah, they're just yeah, they're missing
Speaker 2: the post.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was like, I get it. I feel
Speaker 3: like I understood a gory in that moment. Like it's
Speaker 3: not some shocking thing which is that you're gonna find
Speaker 3: on YouTube and stuff, but actually it's it's trying to
Speaker 3: point you that you're actually already dead. You are already
Speaker 3: a dead body and you don't even know it. This
Speaker 3: whole thing that you're living right now is an illusion,
Speaker 3: and little by little you're gonna realize that you're already
Speaker 3: dead and everything that you see around you is gonna
Speaker 3: be taken. So these guys jump into the fire. This
Speaker 3: guy jumps into the fire. And just to give an example,
Speaker 3: this is another moment that kind of like made me
Speaker 3: kind of step and look at him in a weird way.
Speaker 3: Was I brought my friends to meet him, and we
Speaker 3: were sitting around a fire, and my friend has a
Speaker 3: step son who got stabbed and had to like pee
Speaker 3: out of a thing, out of a bag or something,
Speaker 3: and he was just sharing this story. And as he's sharing,
Speaker 3: Bivanni leans next to me and like not saying it
Speaker 3: out loud, but just saying it to me, and he goes,
Speaker 3: the difference between me and him is that if I
Speaker 3: had a son and he died, I wouldn't even nothing
Speaker 3: in my inner world would change. He said, my thinking
Speaker 3: is fire and his ash. I don't even know what
Speaker 3: that meant in that mole. Oh my god, dude, the fuck.
Speaker 3: But basically what he's saying is like the inside, his
Speaker 3: inside is the pillar. It's the stability. There's no wavering
Speaker 3: of emotions of what's gonna happen in this world. He's
Speaker 3: like seeing he's and he always tells me this. He goes,
Speaker 3: You're always here, You're doing ayahuasca, you're doing the toad,
Speaker 3: you're doing yoga. And he always tells me that I'm
Speaker 3: a I'm an arrow with no target. Yeah, And when
Speaker 3: I'm with him, I see that he is a target
Speaker 3: through through through everything he does. He never falters. I've
Speaker 3: spent months with him and every day it's just like
Speaker 3: the same static buzz and I've I've never experienced that
Speaker 3: with any other of these yogis in India. He's the
Speaker 3: closest thing I've I've got.
Speaker 2: And I think it's funny that he's not I mean,
Speaker 2: he's not a guru.
Speaker 3: Right yeah, well yeah, he's not a guru. He's just
Speaker 3: kind of a guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but.
Speaker 3: He's doing these practices and stuff. But he doesn't have
Speaker 3: like followers or anything.
Speaker 2: But he's like, you know, don't care about the label.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, definitely he would he would like he would kind
Speaker 3: of cringe if I said he was my guru.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that that's how when it's real
Speaker 2: that I believe that's how it works. Yeah, it's real.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like more punk rock, like who cares
Speaker 2: about the label? But you know, he's he's a spiritual guy.
Speaker 2: I know. I've met so many people like that. I've
Speaker 2: been so blessed to meet people like that. And it's
Speaker 2: an amazing thing when you meet someone who who you
Speaker 2: feel like I felt like an arrow with no target
Speaker 2: for so long. Yeah, and it's fun if you hit
Speaker 2: a point where you want some guidance and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, I totally resonate with that.
Speaker 3: It's so true because like I mean, at some point,
Speaker 3: you just gotta you gotta move forward. And if you're
Speaker 3: going in every direction, yeah, it's fun. The buffet is nice,
Speaker 3: but like you know, yeah, you just get fat and
Speaker 3: you don't really have it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I love that. And the discipline too, the the
Speaker 2: the ability or rather the the the importance of having
Speaker 2: discipline to a path or to some sort of practice.
Speaker 3: I think just learning it it's crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crucial and it's it's life changing. I'm curious
Speaker 2: about some of your psychedelic experiences.
Speaker 3: Got a ton of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, let me reframe the question. Then, how about
Speaker 2: some of your most meaningful psychedelic experiences.
Speaker 3: You know. Really, I feel like my first one was
Speaker 3: so meaningful. I took mushrooms with at the time was
Speaker 3: my girlfriend, and I didn't know about mushrooms. I was
Speaker 3: very punk rock straight as I was kind of against
Speaker 3: all drugs. I didn't smoke weed or do anything until
Speaker 3: I was like twenty or twenty one, never drink out cohoric.
Speaker 3: I still don't drink out cohol.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And.
Speaker 3: She was like, let's take some mushrooms and I was like, okay,
Speaker 3: I'll try it. And I had I'm kind of already
Speaker 3: a little bit of a hippie at this point, and
Speaker 3: I think I am smoking weed at this point. And
Speaker 3: she gives it to me and we take it. It's
Speaker 3: just casual chilling in the living room, you know, listening
Speaker 3: to music. And we decided to go outside and I
Speaker 3: walk outside and it's just like the first time I
Speaker 3: ever opened my eyes. I mean, anyone that's taking a
Speaker 3: psychedelic you know that feeling it? Yeah, Wow, everything is
Speaker 3: so beautiful. How have I been walking through life and
Speaker 3: I didn't see the beauty? How is it held together?
Speaker 3: What is this beauty? How is it happening? This is
Speaker 3: just here? I can just eat a mushroom and I
Speaker 3: just all of a sudden, the beauty is revealed. And yeah,
Speaker 3: it was a very spiritual experience for me too, where
Speaker 3: I was just like, damn, you know this is so
Speaker 3: I didn't know. It was the first time I really
Speaker 3: thought spiritual things in such a profound way, not quite
Speaker 3: like that, but feeling it in a way where it's
Speaker 3: like a altered state.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: It was my first altered state experience where I'm like, damn,
Speaker 3: it's the spiritual is not just like some idea or
Speaker 3: nice fuzzy feeling you get, but it's actually beyond the
Speaker 3: body and it's an experiential thing on many dimensional layers.
Speaker 3: And that was my first like confrontation with that, and
Speaker 3: from there a big journey, you know. I ended up
Speaker 3: living in Peru for a while. I got stuck there
Speaker 3: during COVID for months, living with these Chappibo Shamans and
Speaker 3: those guys. It's not like when they drink ayahuasca. It's
Speaker 3: not when the guests are there. They drink ayahuasca all
Speaker 3: the time, so it's like they force you to drink it.
Speaker 3: They forced me to drink it when I was during
Speaker 3: the pandemic. So I was drinking ayahuasca like twice a
Speaker 3: week for a month.
Speaker 2: Good.
Speaker 3: It was just like and even if I didn't join,
Speaker 3: which I would like try my best to protest these,
Speaker 3: they would make me join the ceremony. So I got
Speaker 3: to go sit in the ceremony and I still have
Speaker 3: to get and some nights I just okay, give me
Speaker 3: that because they're gonna torture me anyway. So I drink it.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean, I am ayahuasca out at this point.
Speaker 3: But I've had many, many intense ayahuasca experiences and I've
Speaker 3: got to know the spirit of ayahuasca a little bit.
Speaker 3: I don't know it at all, but I know it
Speaker 3: a little bit, you know. I kind of find I
Speaker 3: find it fun when people think they know ayauasca after
Speaker 3: a week or something. It's like, man, I don't even
Speaker 3: have a clue what ayahuasca is. But it's a portal
Speaker 3: to aliens for sure. If you want to go down
Speaker 3: the alien route, that is definitely one way to connect
Speaker 3: with some dimensional beings. I think all I think actually
Speaker 3: psychedelics in general are ereable that allows you to interact
Speaker 3: with intelligences that are existing beyond this biochemistry that we're
Speaker 3: operating in right now.
Speaker 2: That's a great way to word it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think our world. I think of
Speaker 3: the ancient world. They all knew about it. There are ancestors.
Speaker 3: All our ancestors, no matter what color race you are,
Speaker 3: are chuckling at us for losing this knowledge or shaking
Speaker 3: their heads because they all know. In the tribal communities
Speaker 3: around the world, they still have it, you know, the
Speaker 3: ones that have still maintained their grandparents language. They haven't
Speaker 3: got the church built in their village yet. These guys,
Speaker 3: these guys know, they know, and they're using the plants
Speaker 3: to speak with these spirits. They might not call them aliens,
Speaker 3: but by today's standard, you know, whatever we're connecting with,
Speaker 3: they're showing us technologies, they're giving us like alien type
Speaker 3: of understandings. Definitely like today's standards, you could you could
Speaker 3: easily consider it that. But yeah, our ancestors new and
Speaker 3: we're just now finding out. And I think a Western
Speaker 3: science is just now finding out. They're now having to
Speaker 3: do these studies at John Hopkins about the d MT entities,
Speaker 3: and you know, all these big universities are now getting
Speaker 3: hip to it because they have no choice everyone. It's
Speaker 3: everyone's happening. We all had the experience, so you can't
Speaker 3: tell us that it's not real. Our ancestors have the experience.
Speaker 3: There's something else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, you're right, it's like they have no choice
Speaker 2: but to catch up.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: How do you feel about age of Aquarius? Into it?
Speaker 3: H what is it?
Speaker 2: Oh? Well, the Age of Aquarius is the idea that
Speaker 2: there is like a collective shift happening that we all
Speaker 2: experience in addition to all the individual awakenings that are
Speaker 2: obviously happening. So it's like right now we're in the
Speaker 2: age of Pisces, and then the next astrological age will
Speaker 2: shift into Aquarius.
Speaker 3: You know, it's like the z right now or we're
Speaker 3: in the middle whereas.
Speaker 2: Going to Aquarius?
Speaker 3: But are we? Where are we? How far are we
Speaker 3: until we hit the Aquarius in our lifetime?
Speaker 2: Or this is like future, like like the very end
Speaker 2: of a Pisces. Yes that there, there's it has been
Speaker 2: said that Aquarius might be very very soon. In fact,
Speaker 2: I think that it's already here and that's why we're
Speaker 2: having such profound awakenings and turbulence on the planet. Not
Speaker 2: only you know, we're having fires we're having floods, we're
Speaker 2: having earthquakes, we're having hurricanes, we're having wars, we're having
Speaker 2: all these political bull crap, you know. But also UFOs
Speaker 2: Ya drones over New Jersey, all the congressional talks. My
Speaker 2: family really like have a big to play with the
Speaker 2: UFO story. And there's just like so much change happening rapidly,
Speaker 2: and it could be said that it's ai yeah, and
Speaker 2: it goes on and on, and it could be said
Speaker 2: that it's because there's a shift into an age. And
Speaker 2: if you think to go to historically, every time we
Speaker 2: shift into a new age, there was a new prophet,
Speaker 2: there was a new spiritual advancement of our knowledge that
Speaker 2: we had, you know, and yeah, I just didn't know.
Speaker 3: If I have heard of that. In Hinduism they call
Speaker 3: this age kali yuga, where it's it's the age where
Speaker 3: everything is fucked up. So it's like it's where like
Speaker 3: the spiritual teachings are kind of like muddy. It's like
Speaker 3: the teachings are there, but the people saying it don't
Speaker 3: aren't really experiencing what they're saying. They're just kind of repeating.
Speaker 3: So like in the turbulence that you're talking about that's
Speaker 3: all signs of kali yuga. And I totally agree with
Speaker 3: you that there's a that there's a shift happening. And
Speaker 3: I think the reason there's population happening right now is
Speaker 3: that we're all incarnating here on purpose to come here
Speaker 3: because the car was burning quick while we're here, like
Speaker 3: there's the fire everywhere going on, so we're working out
Speaker 3: our shit, like, you know, this is like multiple lifetimes
Speaker 3: worth of shit that we get to work out in
Speaker 3: one lifetime. So I think, yeah, I think there is
Speaker 3: a shift happening, and I think we're in the thick
Speaker 3: of it right now. And everywhere you look you can
Speaker 3: see it. If you talk to people on a personal level,
Speaker 3: everyone feels it and yeah, here we are, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the elephant in the room. Everyone's going
Speaker 2: through this crazy change and it's like, what is happening here?
Speaker 2: And then you're in the corner You're like, I know
Speaker 2: what's happening and everyone's like, nah, you're crazy, and then
Speaker 2: they walk outside and see a UFO, we're crazy. Yeah
Speaker 2: that's just one example. You know, had that happen to
Speaker 2: me so many times.
Speaker 3: But well, what it's demanding is that we all focus
Speaker 3: right now. And I think a lot of people are
Speaker 3: going to get scared. I think a lot of people
Speaker 3: do feel scared. Actually. I think there's a lot of
Speaker 3: unease happening and socially, and everything is is nudging us
Speaker 3: towards growth, really, that's what it is. But in that
Speaker 3: process of growth, there is a lot of unsettling and
Speaker 3: unease and nausea, you know, like spiritual nausea. And I
Speaker 3: think a lot of people are going to be scared.
Speaker 3: But I think it's very important in this moment that
Speaker 3: we remain calm, that we remain spiritually aware, and that
Speaker 3: we don't get lost in the sauce. Because as soon
Speaker 3: as we get lost in the sauce, you know, with
Speaker 3: then the Klie yoga or the previous era has us,
Speaker 3: you know, and it's time for us to wake up.
Speaker 3: And I think that comes very simply by not only
Speaker 3: going deep into these meditations and out of body experiences
Speaker 3: and UFOs, but simply by you don't go by coca cola,
Speaker 3: you don't go say the negative thing you were going
Speaker 3: to say. You know, it starts very simply, and then
Speaker 3: from there, slowly, slowly, we start reconnecting with compassion, and
Speaker 3: with that compassion, we start to look at the plants,
Speaker 3: we start to look at the animals, and then through
Speaker 3: there we slowly, slowly start to understand the soul. Oh
Speaker 3: my god, I have a soul. This animal has a soul.
Speaker 3: This tree, everything is some connected. And then from there
Speaker 3: the aliens are going to start talking to us because
Speaker 3: we're going to be able to see it. We're too
Speaker 3: distracted right now by our own bullshit that we if
Speaker 3: we we're not even able to use our psychic powers
Speaker 3: because we're too distracted by our bullshit. Everyone's horny, everyone's
Speaker 3: that food. Everyone, you know, like you're confused right now.
Speaker 3: Our whole human species right now is in a hypnosis.
Speaker 3: So it's very important for people like us to, you know,
Speaker 3: just to kind of throw some water in the face
Speaker 3: or slap them awake and say like, look, you know,
Speaker 3: remember who you are. Remember who you are, because you know,
Speaker 3: the people that want your power are having it every
Speaker 3: time that you don't remember who you are. So it's
Speaker 3: a big fight right now. And I think if we
Speaker 3: are successful in that fight and we do enter this
Speaker 3: next stage of awaken, all this mystical and supernatural stuff
Speaker 3: is going to be very obvious to us. I think
Speaker 3: we're just so distracted that even if they were here,
Speaker 3: we wouldn't believe it. Even if or like a spiritual thing.
Speaker 3: You know, if the Guru came to you, would you
Speaker 3: even believe him? You know, Huda was here, would you
Speaker 3: believe him? But Jesus was here, would you believe him?
Speaker 3: No one will believe it. If the aliens were here,
Speaker 3: someone somewhere would question it. Yeah, it's part of the
Speaker 3: age of being in Kylie Yuga. But it's time for
Speaker 3: us to be slapped awake a little bit. And I think,
Speaker 3: like we were saying earlier, there's we're getting to that
Speaker 3: turbulence where it's there's no choice. In ten years from now,
Speaker 3: everybody is going to be a different world. I don't
Speaker 3: know even it's even going to look.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, it's going to be crazy. I think that
Speaker 2: it's so spot on what you said about like we
Speaker 2: can't even use our psychic powers because we're distracted. Well,
Speaker 2: I've been very privileged and honored and lucky to have
Speaker 2: had an experience of being very close to like cutting
Speaker 2: edge psychic stuff in my life, you know, as far
Speaker 2: as like knowing people who ran the psychic spy program. Uh,
Speaker 2: going to the Minrositute, just my family and the paranormal
Speaker 2: experiences that we've had. I've seen crazy shit. Let me
Speaker 2: just say that I've seen crazy shit and I'm very
Speaker 2: I'm just very like blessed to have that experience. And
Speaker 2: I know for a fact that it is unfolding in
Speaker 2: a way that is just like Domino is falling to
Speaker 2: where like you said, maybe ten years from now, you know.
Speaker 3: Ten years from now, it's going to be insane these Yeah,
Speaker 3: the common person has no clue how fast it's coming.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I even speculate if like fifty two one
Speaker 2: hundred years from now, do people just oh, I'm hungry
Speaker 2: manifest an apple with thought?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know that's not fifty to one hundred years
Speaker 3: is uncomprehendible to us right now with how fast and
Speaker 3: crazy stuff it's going to be changing. One hundred years
Speaker 3: is to be ten thousand years, you know from our
Speaker 3: previous progress.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that all the stuff about levitation is real.
Speaker 2: When you read these Tibetan texts of like these masters
Speaker 2: meditating in caves, I mean levitating, meditating too, but levitating.
Speaker 2: And you always hear stories of Catholic saints levitating around
Speaker 2: a crowd of one hundred people. You know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 2: I think crazy. I think that reality is being shaken
Speaker 2: by the process that's happening right now with the unfoldment
Speaker 2: of consciousness, like on a collective scale, and right now
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, there's this small number of people
Speaker 2: who've seen this stuff. Like, for example, dude, I have
Speaker 2: this friend named Dahlia, very cool person. Her daughter is
Speaker 2: one of the children on the telepathy tapes. Have you
Speaker 2: heard about that.
Speaker 3: I've heard about it, but I haven't had the chance
Speaker 3: to watch yet. I want to watch it.
Speaker 2: It's very interesting. It's nonverbal, autistic children who read each
Speaker 2: other's minds, in other people's minds, and they do other
Speaker 2: stuff too, I.
Speaker 3: Mean evolutionary, evolutionarily it makes sense.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah. And she was so moved by what's happening
Speaker 2: with her daughter being able to read minds and see
Speaker 2: the future and talk to spirits and stuff that she
Speaker 2: started getting into psychic training. I have seen her in
Speaker 2: private and in public at an event called the SI
Speaker 2: Games in Virginia in a room full of like five
Speaker 2: hundred people. I've seen her triple blindfolded read words, match colors,
Speaker 2: you know, pick numbers everything. With her eyes closed and
Speaker 2: triple blindfolded, she can see better than you were me.
Speaker 2: And that's just one example. You know, obviously remote viewing.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you're familiar with that. I know all the
Speaker 2: guys that are not all the guys, but most of
Speaker 2: the guys that were involved with that, you know, the
Speaker 2: CIA program. And she's seen a lot of crazy stuff, man,
Speaker 2: And then it you know, it's like you said, there's
Speaker 2: other people and they're like, well, I don't believe that.
Speaker 2: All right, You're lost, bro, You're not the life.
Speaker 3: Of the most life. Yeah, what do you think about?
Speaker 3: Place is like go Beckley Tepe.
Speaker 2: You know, if you had asked me about anywhere else
Speaker 2: in the entire world, I might have an answer. But
Speaker 2: I don't know much about go Beckley Tepe? Even where
Speaker 2: is it.
Speaker 3: You don't know about Beckley Tepe? I thought that would
Speaker 3: be your Like, you know, that's a big mystery, Alex.
Speaker 2: Do you have any thoughts? Alex, you're here too.
Speaker 3: Well, Alex, I forgot to hear.
Speaker 5: It's the whole Graham Hancock thing and the idea that
Speaker 5: there was an ancient civilization that was.
Speaker 2: First I know what it is. I just haven't. That's
Speaker 2: about all I know.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh shit, dude, you want me to give you a
Speaker 3: little my little go Beckley, so go Beckley. Tepe was
Speaker 3: a site that dates back to twelve thousand years ago
Speaker 3: at the end of the last Ice Age. So at
Speaker 3: the end of the Last I say, human beings were
Speaker 3: pretty much scattered tribes, hunter gatherers, nomadic, moving with the seasons,
Speaker 3: hunting with animals, not building megalithic structures with fifteen ton
Speaker 3: stones being dragged down hills and uphills, with perfect master
Speaker 3: mastery in the stone art and clear religious symbolism and
Speaker 3: clear complex structure in their belief system. They find human
Speaker 3: skulls and all kinds of crazy stuff. And it's twelve
Speaker 3: thousand years ago, when that's not it's supposed to be possible.
Speaker 3: So everyone's got all the archaeologists scrape scratching their heads. Okay,
Speaker 3: how fuck Okay. So there's just this isolated temple they're
Speaker 3: calling it first temple in the world, and they find
Speaker 3: some scattered other anomalies around, and they're like, how is
Speaker 3: this possible? You know, we don't find anything else in
Speaker 3: the Stone Age that's even close to this so they
Speaker 3: start doing like digs around the area. And now fast
Speaker 3: forward to twenty twenty five, they realize it's a giant
Speaker 3: network of sites of megaliths all in this for two
Speaker 3: hundred kilometers in each direction. Wow, they say twelve. They
Speaker 3: call the Tepe Layer sites the Stone Hills network, but
Speaker 3: actually there's like a hundred.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: And this is like, this is rewriting our whole idea
Speaker 3: of history, the one that I'm that I work with
Speaker 3: the most. I'm actually going to Turkey in two days,
Speaker 3: but to these sites. I've been documenting it for about
Speaker 3: seven years. Caughtahan Tepe is the name of it. It's
Speaker 3: like the sister site to go Beckley Tepe Way. I
Speaker 3: don't know if it's way crazier because Go Beckley is
Speaker 3: still underground most of it. Buttee is like a clear
Speaker 3: shamanic death leopard cult. The whole thing. He's got like
Speaker 3: these leopard skin pelts carved into the pillar. They find
Speaker 3: leopard bones there, they find got these statues with these
Speaker 3: guys carrying leopards on their backs. They find statues of penises.
Speaker 3: They find this dead man statue who's got like a peanut,
Speaker 3: he's got his penis out, his ribs are all he's
Speaker 3: like a zombie seven feet tall. It's next to a vulture,
Speaker 3: next to a human skull, square thing. So it's like
Speaker 3: these Stone age people work just completely wrong. Like it's
Speaker 3: just do we really don't know any thing about our history?
Speaker 3: Obviously we only know what we find, but we always
Speaker 3: find us it proves as wrong or that proves that
Speaker 3: we don't know the full story. But this is like
Speaker 3: it's crazy. I mean, I don't think aliens have anything
Speaker 3: to do with it, but it's just like it's insane
Speaker 3: that you see such advance complex social structure, religious structure,
Speaker 3: artistic structure, geometrical knowledge, and a lot of the carvings
Speaker 3: show like vultures carrying human heads. It's like a death cult,
Speaker 3: a fertility death cult because you see the penises, so
Speaker 3: there's obviously some fertility there and the death stuff is
Speaker 3: very obvious in all the sites. And the crazy thing
Speaker 3: is is they find obsidian from five hundred miles away.
Speaker 2: Why I find pilgrige. Pilgrimage just what I'm.
Speaker 3: Thinking, because that's perfect you say that because two thousand
Speaker 3: years later, a couple hundred miles away, there's a place
Speaker 3: it's called Chattel Hoyuke. It's maintaining the same motifs leopards,
Speaker 3: vultures and the human heads. All this stuff is maintained
Speaker 3: for two thousand years in this area. So maybe they
Speaker 3: were pilgrimage. Maybe this was one of the first organized
Speaker 3: religions and it spread across the whole area right there. Wow,
Speaker 3: I mean you find it, and even up into the
Speaker 3: Samerian stuff, you find vultures carrying human heads or lions
Speaker 3: and leopards, and it could go back very far and
Speaker 3: like the Grand Hank. If there was a Los civilization,
Speaker 3: this could be like the Atlantis. Yeah, I mean, these
Speaker 3: guys seem to just you don't The crazy thing is
Speaker 3: is you don't find anything in between the stone carving,
Speaker 3: so like the oldest shit we find is just like
Speaker 3: intensely detailed and complex, like they're carving three dimensional objects
Speaker 3: out of the stone or carving into the bedrocks. So
Speaker 3: they're like scooping the stone out of the bedrock, carving
Speaker 3: structures that are connected to the earth still.
Speaker 2: With copper or weaker tools with flint. Yeah, hell yeah, how.
Speaker 3: I don't even know how?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 3: And my friends some flint tools I'm not carving nothing.
Speaker 2: So I watched a documentary my Yeah, same, my buddy Aaron.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Aaron and his fiance Helen. He's the
Speaker 2: very talented mind behind some really cool bands like Infiniteihilator
Speaker 2: and Black Tongue, and he's been on my show I'm
Speaker 2: a heavy metal Nerd. But anyway, he came and stayed
Speaker 2: with me from England. We had a good show, hung out,
Speaker 2: did a Monrosa to retreat together and something for days.
Speaker 2: He was like, you gotta watch this documentary on the
Speaker 2: bar of bar caves. You gotta watch, yeah, and we
Speaker 2: ended up watching it. I don't know if you've seen it,
Speaker 2: but you'll probably really find it interesting. It's like imagine,
Speaker 2: you know, you know, like the old fashioned airplane hangars
Speaker 2: or like you see them on military basis where they're
Speaker 2: like a half circle dome and they're long and it's
Speaker 2: like airplanes go in and out of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Like the semi circle buildings.
Speaker 3: Like in GTA. Were you still here?
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, Yeah, that's why I know them from military
Speaker 2: basis from GTA. So imagine that shape precisely cut down
Speaker 2: to like point zero zero one laser accuracy by hand
Speaker 2: with no machine tools actually better than modern machine tools
Speaker 2: inside stone. That's the bare bar caves. Yeah, And the
Speaker 2: geometry of these structures is extremely precise, extremely geometrically sound
Speaker 2: and symmetric, and they were probably made like ten thousand
Speaker 2: years ago or five thousand years ago or something like that.
Speaker 3: And it's like wow, even if it was made yesterday
Speaker 3: with no modern tools, it's like how.
Speaker 2: How they literally in this documentary they take them to
Speaker 2: like Stonemasons, modern Stonemasons, like Master World renowned Stonemasons from
Speaker 2: France and these other countries in Europe that I can't
Speaker 2: remember right now, and they're like, I couldn't do this,
Speaker 2: and they're like rate it difficulty out of ten, two
Speaker 2: of them said twelve, Like impossible, this can't be done.
Speaker 2: The machines we have are as big as this room.
Speaker 2: You can't fit that underground in a cave. They took
Speaker 2: it to. I can't remember the business, but like they
Speaker 2: have these machines that like cut granted and get them polished.
Speaker 2: And it was after being ran through the machine over
Speaker 2: and over, it was less polished and less precise than
Speaker 2: the barbar caves. So it's like, how do they do
Speaker 2: this how.
Speaker 3: And India's got a lot of weird places like that,
Speaker 3: and that's just a random place in India that's not
Speaker 3: even a famous place. Really. Yeah, they have like that
Speaker 3: one what is it a Laura? You know about a
Speaker 3: Laura where they again carved into the bedrock gigantic temples
Speaker 3: from the top of a mountain and just start chooping.
Speaker 2: Away the mountain and got Petra Jordan.
Speaker 3: I've been to Petra, incredible, my favorite places.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I have ideas. I wonder if it's some
Speaker 2: sort of sound like vibrational technology. I mean, you know
Speaker 2: about cimatics and there's like it's possible.
Speaker 3: I mean it's definitely not impossible, or.
Speaker 2: Magnets, yeah, something like that. I don't know. I don't
Speaker 2: think aliens came down and did it. I don't necessarily.
Speaker 3: I don't know about aliens coming and moving rocks. It
Speaker 3: always made me I was like, what is the motive
Speaker 3: to them become and move some rocks around? I mean,
Speaker 3: I guess like space station pointers and stuff.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I have a different view on alien type experiences,
Speaker 2: like I think it tends to be a dimensional, spiritual thing.
Speaker 3: Oh for sure.
Speaker 2: And that brings me to another thing I was curious
Speaker 2: if you've ever seen a ufo.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you said that, because I forgot I wanted
Speaker 3: to tell you this. I've never seen a ufo. But
Speaker 3: I was in Mexico in time in Sonora. I don't
Speaker 3: know if you know about this tribe in Sonora, but
Speaker 3: they all talk about aliens. I don't know. Like, I
Speaker 3: went there this smoke the toad.
Speaker 2: Venom, m oh sweetnor.
Speaker 3: Toad venom, which was it's not actually traditional to them.
Speaker 3: It was discovered I think in the seventies or something,
Speaker 3: but they tried to get some indigenous heritage behind it
Speaker 3: to for legality and stuff. This tribe adopted it and
Speaker 3: it's a big political whatever. But so these guys, I
Speaker 3: went there because of the toad to learn about the toad,
Speaker 3: and just like hanging out, they just all kept talking
Speaker 3: about aliens. So I was like, what are you guys
Speaker 3: talking about?
Speaker 2: You know, did I miss something?
Speaker 3: And they were just like, oh, yeah, the aliens. They
Speaker 3: come here, they talk to us and very casually, okay, whatever,
Speaker 3: you guys are all crazy. They got little aliens shit
Speaker 3: in their house and the whole village is like aliens.
Speaker 3: Little memorabilia. This one old man was walking with an
Speaker 3: alien staff with a ufol And this is a village
Speaker 3: in the middle of no I mean, we're four hours
Speaker 3: from a city. This is desert. There's no tourists here
Speaker 3: besides actually one other weirdo that was there for the toad.
Speaker 3: And we went to sleep. And again, this is desert,
Speaker 3: so it doesn't rain very much, and for some reason
Speaker 3: the night that we stayed the night there, it rained.
Speaker 3: And there's two guesthouses there, which is just like this
Speaker 3: little shed that they put us into sleep and other
Speaker 3: tourists was there, and then it was me and my
Speaker 3: friends storming all night, which is cool because we're in
Speaker 3: the desert. It's unique to see that. But we fall asleep,
Speaker 3: wake up and I'm talking to the other tourists and
Speaker 3: he goes, did you see that a huge explosion on
Speaker 3: the beach. He's like a generator or something must have exploded,
Speaker 3: like someone must have left it out there running and
Speaker 3: when the storm came, it just made their generator explode.
Speaker 3: So we were eating with the family and he mentions
Speaker 3: it to them, what was that explosion on the beach
Speaker 3: last night, And they go, there was no explosion. That
Speaker 3: was the spaceships coming out of the water. But and
Speaker 3: that's all they said. They didn't say anything else. And
Speaker 3: he goes, what do you mean that's the space ships
Speaker 3: And he goes, well, there's no explosions on the beach.
Speaker 3: We told you there were space ships here. You saw
Speaker 3: the space ships. They just said it as a matter
Speaker 3: of fact like that. And I asked them all kinds
Speaker 3: of questions. What do they look like, you know, with
Speaker 3: the aliens, And they say they look like him, and
Speaker 3: they point to the tourist guy. They're like, that's tall.
Speaker 3: They're tall and white.
Speaker 2: The toad smoker that guy.
Speaker 3: The indigenous people said that they looked like the toad
Speaker 3: smoking white guy, and that they wear black suits, and
Speaker 3: that they also have crystals.
Speaker 2: Oh cool, Wow, sounds.
Speaker 3: Like they have some kind of crystal that makes in
Speaker 3: their ship.
Speaker 2: Like it sounds like quaets so con con or quetz
Speaker 2: no coat. I mean, yeah, that's fascinating.
Speaker 3: They all talked about it. And the thing that's crazy
Speaker 3: is that it's more or less the same area where
Speaker 3: that tik tak was at.
Speaker 2: Oh interest, so this is like northeast.
Speaker 3: Mexico, northeast of Mexico.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, this.
Speaker 3: Is Bajak nor Well, Sonora, but it's by it's in
Speaker 3: the Bay of California.
Speaker 2: Oh so it's like northwest then.
Speaker 3: Wait yeah no, yeah, sorry, northeast would be like New Hampshire. Yeah,
Speaker 3: this is northwest. And the tic Tac was in the Pacific, right,
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know. I think I think the
Speaker 3: Tiktac was in the Pacific, Okay, yeah, off of California.
Speaker 3: And uh yeah. The guy told me, he was like,
Speaker 3: when we're out there on our boats, I know the
Speaker 3: difference between a manta and the ship and sometimes you
Speaker 3: look down there and the ships are going underneath the water. Wow,
Speaker 3: yeamhn man, Like this is all the ship that they
Speaker 3: that they're saying on the news and stuff about that Tiktac.
Speaker 3: That's what that's when this was happening too. And I
Speaker 3: don't know, this is weird. It's just like so these
Speaker 3: guys are just like some indigenous guys. They hardly speak Spanish,
Speaker 3: no English, and they're just saying it like it's the weather.
Speaker 3: And I would love to go back, actually meet them
Speaker 3: again and go deeper into that. I was only there
Speaker 3: for like two days.
Speaker 5: One moment, Alex, I'm looking up the Snora Desert Aliens
Speaker 5: and all grand theft auto alien like locations, which is
Speaker 5: really interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that it's on purpose, I think, Wow, well that
Speaker 2: brings me to a point based on what you just said,
Speaker 2: so something in my mind, I know you're a very
Speaker 2: busy guy. But like when we started our podcast four
Speaker 2: years ago, I'm not kidding you. I literally had a
Speaker 2: blackboard back in my old studio and I would like
Speaker 2: write down things we had to do, write down recording dates,
Speaker 2: write down guests I want, write down just all kinds
Speaker 2: of details, topics we were going to record all that stuff.
Speaker 2: And I had your name on that board for a
Speaker 2: long time, and and and most names that I've ever
Speaker 2: had on that board have been on the show now.
Speaker 2: So it's like, dang, where do we go from here?
Speaker 2: But yeah, you're right.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The thing, the thing that I always thought would be
Speaker 2: really cool if you ever had time for it, was
Speaker 2: to be with you and to see UFOs with you.
Speaker 2: Because something we do, Dakota is it's kind of a
Speaker 2: long story, but my dad is sort of like the
Speaker 2: orb guy. He's sort of changed. Do you remember how
Speaker 2: you're talking about how the rest of the world doesn't
Speaker 2: have any clue about like the psychic powers. But then
Speaker 2: you're in India and you see all that stuff firsthand,
Speaker 2: and you know that's kind of like my dad. But
Speaker 2: with the UFO world when I was a teenager, you know,
Speaker 2: people from the CIA or people from NASA would be
Speaker 2: knocking on our door, like investigating us and interrogating us.
Speaker 2: And because all because we reported our experiences on a
Speaker 2: website that we saw on TV and had no clue
Speaker 2: it was a CIA thing, not with the CIA, and
Speaker 2: you mean like, okay.
Speaker 3: You saw something and it was just a CIA.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, let me explain. In two thousand and seven,
Speaker 2: my dad started and my brother I was thirteen at
Speaker 2: the time, thirty two now as of like what I
Speaker 2: guess two weeks ago, Happy birthday me and so my
Speaker 2: brother and my dad were out on the yeah making
Speaker 2: me laugh, man, that's what I haven't recorded since my birthday,
Speaker 2: if you must know. So anyway, two thousand and seven,
Speaker 2: my dad and my brother were out on the Cape
Speaker 2: River and they saw this these three huge balls of
Speaker 2: fire orange, you know, massive craft that were pure light.
Speaker 2: And then my brother saw these entities that were like
Speaker 2: three to four foot tall in the woods. They had
Speaker 2: red eyes. It was like very shocking and horrific for him.
Speaker 2: At the time, he had no clue what it was.
Speaker 2: My dad gets home. One of those little short entities
Speaker 2: is in the backyard. By the way. My dad was
Speaker 2: missing four hours, and they had three other adult men
Speaker 2: with them. My brother was seventeen, and then they had
Speaker 2: three other adult men. They were contractors for my dad.
Speaker 2: They had just finished building a house, so they went
Speaker 2: fishing to celebrate out in the woods of North Carolina.
Speaker 2: So all this stuff. These three adult men are looking
Speaker 2: everywhere from my dad. They're driving the truck around. They
Speaker 2: can't find him for four hours. Then he comes back
Speaker 2: and they're like, where the hell have you been? He
Speaker 2: was taken. And while my dad was gone, there was
Speaker 2: these you know, my brother was seeing these empties or whatever.
Speaker 2: And by the way, an ext has seen orbs with
Speaker 2: me if you can. He's he's seen some of this
Speaker 2: stuff too, and shout out an ext. My dad gets
Speaker 2: home that night, there's more entities in the backyard and
Speaker 2: my dad's like freaked out and he goes, okay, you
Speaker 2: got me, I surrender, And they told him telepathically, you
Speaker 2: don't understand. We're not here to hurt you. We're here
Speaker 2: to help you many. About ten months went by and
Speaker 2: all of us in my family continued to see things
Speaker 2: orbs entities running around the house, shadow like activity, poltergeist stuff.
Speaker 2: It got so bad for my family that my parents
Speaker 2: almost split up. People called social services on my dad.
Speaker 2: The pastor came in and was like throwing holy oil
Speaker 2: on my dad trying to exercise him. I was in
Speaker 2: the room. I saw it. It was horrific. My dad
Speaker 2: was so distraught that he reported it on a website
Speaker 2: called moufon. He saw it on a TV show said
Speaker 2: if you've had a sighting, go to mofon dot com.
Speaker 2: He reported it. We had no clue what was a
Speaker 2: CIA cover up. It was a front for them to
Speaker 2: spy on those citizens.
Speaker 3: So they were trying to get people that were having
Speaker 3: interesting experiences.
Speaker 2: Just yes, left it and shut them down and harass them.
Speaker 2: Very soon after that, we had a documentary come out
Speaker 2: in two thousand and eight on the Discovery Channel. It
Speaker 2: was horrible. It was called UFOs over Earth the Faabil Incident.
Speaker 2: They like faked the light detector test. They made my
Speaker 2: dad sit in a chair for like four hours. They
Speaker 2: asked them the same thirty questions over and over and
Speaker 2: over until he finally got so anxious that there was
Speaker 2: like a flutter on the needle, and they said, inconclusive,
Speaker 2: his heart jumped, and they showed that on TV. They
Speaker 2: did all kinds of stuff like that. They buried the
Speaker 2: data that they got, They got radiation samples in the yard.
Speaker 2: It was a It was a shit show. And I'm
Speaker 2: gonna wrap it up here. This is the abridged version.
Speaker 2: Five years go by, we're like in a living hell
Speaker 2: because everyone's making fun of us. We're coming home from
Speaker 2: school getting laughed at. All of my aunts and uncles
Speaker 2: and many of my cousins are like, y'all are crazy,
Speaker 2: you're demonically possessed, you're on drugs, you're dealing with the devil,
Speaker 2: you're liars. Whatever. We're still having experiences. We're still seeing orbs,
Speaker 2: we're still seeing entities. It's only increased year over year
Speaker 2: over the last eighteen years. Finally, in twenty twelve, my
Speaker 2: dad comes face to face with her behind me, this
Speaker 2: floating woman with blonde hair and blue eyes and a
Speaker 2: white gown, and she basically says, you know this is
Speaker 2: your burden. You gotta go tell your story. At this point,
Speaker 2: we had already talked to several people in the CIA,
Speaker 2: Army intelligence. Uh. They want to know what she wants,
Speaker 2: what the beings want, why they're coming to us, why
Speaker 2: the connection.
Speaker 3: So they ask you. They just they take you at
Speaker 3: face value and just say, okay, what they tell you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my dad had to write it down to be
Speaker 2: sent to the Pentagon. Barack Obama was briefed on it.
Speaker 2: It's really a crazy story, dude, And you know there's
Speaker 2: a reason. An ext was like, Bro, you gotta eat
Speaker 2: this guy, you know. But that's a long story for later.
Speaker 2: I'm giving you the abridged version. She said that she
Speaker 2: was the divine feminine, that she was the goddess, and
Speaker 2: that she gave the name Hathor. But she said throughout
Speaker 2: time she'd been known by many names, and she's the secret,
Speaker 2: missing part of the Trinity, and that basically the Age
Speaker 2: of Aquarius is coming. Go tell your story. And my
Speaker 2: dad's like, what the hell? He was a Christian, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm you know what I'm saying, the profound
Speaker 2: How shocked we were. And when word of that got out,
Speaker 2: the CIA swarmed us, and they investigated us to the
Speaker 2: ends of the earth. Every intelligence agency in the world
Speaker 2: has investigated us in some form or fashion, whether it's
Speaker 2: in person or remotely.
Speaker 3: Investigated you in which way.
Speaker 2: Asking us questions, coming to our property, phone calls, email, You.
Speaker 3: Guys are just happy to give it to them. You
Speaker 3: don't ever say no or nothing.
Speaker 2: You've always The thing about my dad is he's a
Speaker 2: very smart man, and he believes two things. First of all,
Speaker 2: southern hospitality. Second of all, it's like a game of chess,
Speaker 2: you know, like keep your friends close, with your enemies closer,
Speaker 2: see what people want, let them come in for a
Speaker 2: cup of coffee, and just listen and smile. My dad's
Speaker 2: belief always since I was a young child, he always said, son,
Speaker 2: you have two ears and one mouth, so be quiet
Speaker 2: and listen, you know, just sit there and listen what
Speaker 2: people have to say. He listens to what everybody has
Speaker 2: to say. And a lot of people, like we've gotten
Speaker 2: death threats from people in the DIA and some agencies,
Speaker 2: and it's like, you know, don't be gone. They're not
Speaker 2: all bad. Many of them are very bad. I'm very
Speaker 2: open about that on my show. But that's a tangent.
Speaker 2: The whole point I bring this up is to say
Speaker 2: what we do now eighteen years later that we're healed
Speaker 2: and we kind of understand what we're navigating here is
Speaker 2: we continue to see orbs. We see it with crowds
Speaker 2: of people. We've had crowds of a thousand people out
Speaker 2: in public. People come from all over the world, and
Speaker 2: we do that anywhere.
Speaker 3: You travel around and do it or.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we travel. We do it at conferences. Sometimes that's
Speaker 2: a new thing in a building outside.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, explain me, like, walk me through the experience.
Speaker 2: Well, the experience is it's God. It's a spiritual phenomenon. Right, So,
Speaker 2: and this is something you can do. You can hang
Speaker 2: up from this call. You can go to go Beckley Tepe.
Speaker 2: You can see it at go Beckley Tip. Go out
Speaker 2: at night, look up at the sky, at the night sky.
Speaker 2: And first step is you have to know that something
Speaker 2: is there. You have to in your mind call out
Speaker 2: to You could say it's Shiva. It doesn't give a
Speaker 2: crap which you think what it is. It's something, right,
Speaker 2: It's it's God, it's consciousness, it's the spirit. You know,
Speaker 2: we're all imagining God. You know that. I know that
Speaker 2: we're just connecting.
Speaker 3: With whatever form.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so just call out in your mind, send your
Speaker 2: thoughts to this guy and say, hey, I'm here, I
Speaker 2: would love to see if you'd be willing to show
Speaker 2: me something. I'm open.
Speaker 3: That's it, And and and for for your guy, for
Speaker 3: you guys that manifest as an orb for your.
Speaker 2: And other things like things with wings. I mean, help
Speaker 2: me out, Alex, what have you seen turn off your
Speaker 2: little I get flashes of light a lot.
Speaker 3: And is this a shared experience or this is something
Speaker 3: you're personally experiencing.
Speaker 2: Both, yes, yeah, both. Yeah, it's happened with crowds. Any
Speaker 2: xt was there the night we had a thousand people
Speaker 2: in a crowd in California.
Speaker 3: And what happened?
Speaker 2: Oh, we saw orbs. You know, it was like my
Speaker 2: dad had a microphone for an hour and it was
Speaker 2: like he was a slotted time presenter and it was
Speaker 2: an evening under the stars, and he did his whole thing.
Speaker 2: He kind of like walked people through the process of
Speaker 2: connecting with your mind, sending your thoughts up to the heavens,
Speaker 2: and just being open. The biggest thing is removing your doubt,
Speaker 2: taking away your skepticism, because it's like trying to do
Speaker 2: a magic trick but you don't believe you can do it,
Speaker 2: You're probably not gonna do it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: trying to meditate or pray. But what if you're trying
Speaker 2: to go out of body but you don't think you
Speaker 2: can go out of body? What duh, You're gonna block yourself.
Speaker 2: It's no different. You have to be open. And what
Speaker 2: happened that night we saw several orbs. One of them
Speaker 2: looked like this glowing light with these like fluttering wind
Speaker 2: and some of the videos were recorded. I consider you
Speaker 2: some I have hundreds of ORB videos, but yeah, it's insane,
Speaker 2: So go ahead.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say. I had a friend named
Speaker 3: Clara and she used to this is probably five six
Speaker 3: years ago. She would tell me the same thing where
Speaker 3: she would swear she could call these orbs and she
Speaker 3: would be showing me these videos of these orbs in
Speaker 3: her tree outside her house and stuff. Is this the
Speaker 3: same same phenomena?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: She would. She wouldn't refer to it as God. She
Speaker 3: would say like, I don't know. I think she thought
Speaker 3: there were aliens.
Speaker 2: That's fine, she can you could think what it is,
Speaker 2: but right, I think what's important, most important is to
Speaker 2: know that it's positive, you.
Speaker 3: Know, it's a reaffirming, a positive thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's it's a positive phenomenon that it means
Speaker 2: no harm, that it's here to help. If you're you know,
Speaker 2: wanting to say it's an alid, if you wanted to
Speaker 2: say it's God, if you wanted to say it's a spirit.
Speaker 2: I think what's most important is understand that it is
Speaker 2: positive and that it means no harm, and that a
Speaker 2: lot of that stuff out there is CIA propaganda. I
Speaker 2: know that for a fact. I've talked to them about it.
Speaker 3: It's mighty. The water is on purpose, right, Yes, confusing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like bohemian grove stuff. Yeah, you know, dark
Speaker 2: propaganda to destroy people's souls. But it's really a positive thing,
Speaker 2: the UFO phenomenon. It's ninety five percent experiences are reported
Speaker 2: to be positive and angelic to the government. That was
Speaker 2: told to us by a very high level officer in
Speaker 2: the CIA. But yeah, it's the same thing. It's positive.
Speaker 2: And for years now I had your name on that board.
Speaker 2: I was thinking, man, how cool would that be to
Speaker 2: see this stuff with the coda, Because I believe my
Speaker 2: mission is sharing this with certain people that I've watched
Speaker 2: from a distance that I'm like they have a really
Speaker 2: good take on things. You know, you never know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm done. I would love to see some orbs
Speaker 3: or to see the woman. I mean I've seen the
Speaker 3: woman already, so yeah, no, that would be cool. I
Speaker 3: mean what do we do? How do we do it?
Speaker 3: If you just meet up and go out into a field?
Speaker 2: Yeah, just yeah. I mean the sky's the limit, dude's
Speaker 2: endless operation?
Speaker 3: Either of you guys?
Speaker 2: Then in Texas, North Carolina, North Carolina. Nice, sky's the limit? Uh, Welmington,
Speaker 2: North Carolina. The beach.
Speaker 3: They used to run the Rhalmdas Foundation out of North Carolina.
Speaker 2: Oh really, And Duncan used to live here. I used
Speaker 2: to live in Ashville.
Speaker 3: In Ashville, that's where they did it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, cool, I didn't know that. That's very cool.
Speaker 2: You go enjoy your trip to go Backley Tepe and and.
Speaker 3: Well I just bought a hotel. I bought a hotel
Speaker 3: next to it.
Speaker 2: You bought a hotel.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Me and my friend have been saving up money
Speaker 3: for like three years, and like last two weeks ago
Speaker 3: or something, we finally bought it. And that's I'm going
Speaker 3: to see it for the first time. I mean, it's
Speaker 3: really beat up and stuff. Going to be a few
Speaker 3: year project.
Speaker 2: But that's very cool, hoping.
Speaker 3: That like go Beckley Tepe becomes famous and then we
Speaker 3: can kind of have a nice place, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's amazing, dude. Thanks, that's very cool.
Speaker 3: You guys come out there. We'll do it there. We'll
Speaker 3: see Go Beckley Tepe the world first thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm down with that. We'll go there. Alex is
Speaker 2: down with that. Yeah, Now, that'd be cool and something
Speaker 2: that we want to do. Another part of my dad's
Speaker 2: story and if you're open to it, I know you're
Speaker 2: about to travel on a trip and you'll probably be
Speaker 2: gone for months, but at some point I'd like to
Speaker 2: send you a copy of my dad's book.
Speaker 3: But Egypt, I'll be home in December.
Speaker 2: Oh cool. Egypt is very central to our story because
Speaker 2: something that they showed them was the pyramids, these beings,
Speaker 2: and they said, when the red star Regulus aligns with
Speaker 2: the gaze of the Sphinx just before dawn and the
Speaker 2: constellation Leo, there will be a new knowledge that will
Speaker 2: come into the world and there's going to be a
Speaker 2: shift in consciousness. So we're like, what the hell, And
Speaker 2: we went and told NASA and they were like, Hey,
Speaker 2: that happens in twenty twenty six, So we're like, okay,
Speaker 2: you know, bet so for thirteen years now because that
Speaker 2: happened in twenty twelve, So for thirteen years now, there's
Speaker 2: kind of been this mystique building about this whole Egypt
Speaker 2: thing with twenty twenty six. So we're kind of talking
Speaker 2: about like some big Egypt thing next year, maybe we
Speaker 2: go to Egypt. That's kind of yeah, And any xt
Speaker 2: he got and I got to talking about this, and
Speaker 2: we were talking about some sort of Egypt thing. I
Speaker 2: don't know, there's no concrete details yet, but.
Speaker 3: Would be amazing. Have you been to Egypt before?
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 3: I went to Egypt a few times, and man, the
Speaker 3: pyramids are crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I know, obviously the pyramids are crazy, but like even
Speaker 3: when you know the pyramids are crazy, they still blow
Speaker 3: you away. I remember I came to Egypt at night
Speaker 3: for the first time. I'm by myself, travel the world
Speaker 3: for the first time. Egypt, so fuck, you know, like
Speaker 3: the pyramids finally, Yeah, a kid, You're like, that's the
Speaker 3: that's I'll never get to see this, Yeah, for real,
Speaker 3: never get to I never even thought in a million
Speaker 3: years I would get to see it. That's like the
Speaker 3: dream magic place, right, and you're driving and Egypt is
Speaker 3: it's Egypt, you know, it's kind of a little beat up,
Speaker 3: a little rough, and you're driving down one freeway for
Speaker 3: maybe thirty minutes and there's billboards and lights and it's
Speaker 3: very bright, and then it finally kind of stops and
Speaker 3: then you just see desert and the sky and the
Speaker 3: stars and the moon and then just silhouettes giant in
Speaker 3: the horizon, and the closer you get, the bigger they get,
Speaker 3: and you just see them from like the moonlight, you know,
Speaker 3: just these black things in the distance as you get
Speaker 3: closer and closer and closer, like, oh my god, dude,
Speaker 3: how do they do this? Yeah, it towers over the city.
Speaker 2: I want to experience this so bad. And EXT was like, yo, me,
Speaker 2: you and Dakota should do again. But I was like,
Speaker 2: but I haven't met him yet. But now that we met,
Speaker 2: you know, but I'm always here. We had talked about
Speaker 2: some some potential thing for the future, but.
Speaker 3: It would yeah, I love it, it.
Speaker 2: Would be It would be very cool.
Speaker 3: Did you get he's the egypt Man, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like probably the world's best at.
Speaker 3: This and he's also like the Turkey guy. I learned
Speaker 3: a lot about Turkey from his early videos of all
Speaker 3: those places called anty and that kind of stuff. He's
Speaker 3: he's og.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he he's very I I kind of had an
Speaker 2: experience with him like you had with your friend in India,
Speaker 2: the one you know I had. I had an experience
Speaker 2: with him, like, dude, I need to know this guy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he knows his ship, do you know. He's really into
Speaker 2: the Rosa Crucian stuff and all that.
Speaker 3: But and hip.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he's going to come out in November and
Speaker 2: do the show and we're we're scheming on some sort
Speaker 2: of Egypt thing. So I mean, yeah, I mean, let
Speaker 2: me know, a wait, No, that won't work. I think
Speaker 2: I think he'll be gone till December.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gone till December, and then I'm gone again January,
Speaker 3: February and March probably, so I probably won't be back
Speaker 3: into the US UN till April springtime.
Speaker 2: Well, no worries. We'll figure it out. And in the meantime,
Speaker 2: your homework is I'm gonna send you some stuff. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna send you some videos that I have acquired over
Speaker 2: the years, either myself or my father or friends. Uh
Speaker 2: special mentioned I'm gonna send you a video for my
Speaker 2: friend Mela. She's an anime video game voice actress, and
Speaker 2: she reached out to me because she had one of
Speaker 2: the most profound or videos I've ever seen. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: send you that when we hang up, but I'll send
Speaker 2: you some other things, like a little excerpt for my
Speaker 2: dad's book that you can you can look at and
Speaker 2: it's kind of like how we connect, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and just interested anytime ever that you're out under the
Speaker 2: night sky look up like the spirits don't take breaks.
Speaker 2: They don't take breaks. It's not like you have to be.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give it a genuine try, and I'm gonna let.
Speaker 2: You know, well, hey, you know what, there is no try.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, You're right. You just said, you just said,
Speaker 3: don't block it, right, Okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it all you have to do and listen, There
Speaker 2: is no do. This is not active. You sit out
Speaker 2: and look at the night sky and you just just
Speaker 2: even think the thought, man, it would be cool to
Speaker 2: see and oh you don't see anything tonight, that's fine,
Speaker 2: look out tomorrow, look out the next night. The night
Speaker 2: Skuy's there forever and ever, and there's always stuff up
Speaker 2: there that you're not noticing.
Speaker 4: Is moving.
Speaker 2: I promise you you're gonna see something.
Speaker 3: I know, or to let you know, I'm gonna let
Speaker 3: you know for sure.
Speaker 2: Please do.
Speaker 3: And Turkey's got beautiful skies.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I've seen things in Germany with my wife, her
Speaker 2: families from Germany. We've seen things in the Grand Canyon.
Speaker 2: We've seen things around Vegas. We've seen things. I mean,
Speaker 2: what are some other crazy places? Did we see anything
Speaker 2: in Mexico? Maybe Mexico I saw one or two. They're
Speaker 2: all over the world. Dude, They're time and space.
Speaker 4: What is it?
Speaker 3: Is it? Is it dimensional things that are part of Earth?
Speaker 3: Or are they part of just reality? Are they beaming
Speaker 3: out of just everywhere? Like if we were to go
Speaker 3: to a different planet, you think you could call them
Speaker 3: into that too.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I don't have all the answers, but
Speaker 2: what they communicated to my dad is that they come
Speaker 2: from the eternal world, or as we would say, the
Speaker 2: spirit world, that when we die, we become as they do,
Speaker 2: we go into an orb and we that life here
Speaker 2: is like a journey of the soul. And and some
Speaker 2: of this stuff they told him face to face. Some
Speaker 2: of this stuff was through hypnotic regression, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, where you sort of like start to recall
Speaker 2: these things in hypnosis states. But yeah, they said this
Speaker 2: is the journey of the soul, and it's it's all
Speaker 2: an illusion and a lot of the stuff that's true
Speaker 2: an Eastern tradition, Western tradition. I'm hearing all this shit
Speaker 2: as a kid, and I'm like, whoa, I gotta i
Speaker 2: gotta start really digging deep here. So that's kind of
Speaker 2: why I started the podcast, was it's like a journey
Speaker 2: of learning and sharing it with others.
Speaker 3: And so it's amazing. Thank you for yeah, of course,
Speaker 3: thank you for inviting me. I'm glad we got to
Speaker 3: finally do it. Is there anything else crazy you want
Speaker 3: to know? The stories you want me to pulled out?
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel pretty happy with that.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 2: I do like to end with the question though, and
Speaker 2: that question is if everybody if you could imagine like
Speaker 2: everybody was listening, everybody in the world, and you had
Speaker 2: that microphone and.
Speaker 3: You had the world stage to say to the world,
Speaker 3: what would.
Speaker 2: You say to the world, What's the most important thing?
Speaker 2: Or it's like if someone had a gun to your head,
Speaker 2: and it's like, what's the most important thing? You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like, what's that nugget there?
Speaker 3: Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on, let me think.
Speaker 2: Let's see sty quick bang. It's the fight club treatment,
Speaker 2: the fight club treatment. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm not good at on the spot special messages, but
Speaker 3: I guess, like, really, what I want to say to
Speaker 3: the world is kind of what I said earlier, is
Speaker 3: just like, don't get lost right now, because it's very important.
Speaker 3: They actually want us lost. They don't want you to
Speaker 3: know who you are. And there's big forces right now
Speaker 3: in the world that are doing everything that they can
Speaker 3: to make sure that you stay unaware, because because the
Speaker 3: more on where you are, the more the evil gets
Speaker 3: to function, the more the corruption gets to function, the
Speaker 3: more the political world gets to function, the wars get
Speaker 3: to function. Because we are all have no clue who
Speaker 3: we are. So to the world, I want everyone, like
Speaker 3: you're saying, go out, touch the grass, touch the earth,
Speaker 3: and remember for a second who you are. Remember that
Speaker 3: you're not this person that's we're in America. We have podcasts,
Speaker 3: this is all new, and this is all just some
Speaker 3: temporary thing. We are human beings in a mystery right now,
Speaker 3: and we forget it because we're having too much fun
Speaker 3: play in the theater of being modern YouTubers and all
Speaker 3: this stuff. You know, we're hypnotized fully, but remember we
Speaker 3: need to remember who we are because this identity is
Speaker 3: not going to save us, and the only thing that's
Speaker 3: going to save us is the part of us that
Speaker 3: is behind it. And that's all spirituality is. That's all
Speaker 3: this stuff is is about excavating and getting to that
Speaker 3: place behind it. All the false identities, the false illusions
Speaker 3: of the world, that all the hypnosis that we're stuck in,
Speaker 3: it's about digging past that and getting to that point
Speaker 3: where the Buddho's pointing too, So the mystics are pointing to.
Speaker 3: So everyone is pointing us to that place. And if
Speaker 3: I had a moment to speak to the world, I
Speaker 3: would point them there if I could, if I can
Speaker 3: right now, point look there.
Speaker 2: But don't get stuck on the finger.
Speaker 3: People, don't get stuck on the finger.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look what's past it? No, that's awesome, man, thank you.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I guess the other thing is like, for
Speaker 2: my listeners who might not have heard of you or
Speaker 2: know who you are, where can we send them.
Speaker 3: My name is Dakota Wint. You can find me on YouTube,
Speaker 3: you can find me on Instagram, you can find me
Speaker 3: in most lives. If you're hearing about me now, then
Speaker 3: we've been doing this. We've been fist bumping each other
Speaker 3: for a long time. So yeah, just go to YouTube
Speaker 3: check me out. Maybe if you like the spiritual rants
Speaker 3: or this or that, you'll find something cool there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dakota of Earth.
Speaker 3: Dakota of Earth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, never forget that. One special mention to my
Speaker 2: wife who's been sitting here the whole time, because she
Speaker 2: she put me onto Dakota's channel. Uh probably twelve years
Speaker 2: ago when we started dating.
Speaker 3: So that's crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah. All right, well.
Speaker 3: Full circle here. We are big family now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, so hang on the line for just a second.
Speaker 2: We're gonna we're going to close it out. When we
Speaker 2: do that in a very mundane and simple but ritualistic
Speaker 2: way where every single time that we remember, we just
Speaker 2: say bye guys. You ready, okay, all right, bye.
Speaker 3: Guys, bye guys. Peace.
Speaker 2: Om om oh good one. The people that listen to
Speaker 2: our show are called the omis.
Speaker 3: Oh I love it is that My Omi's.
Speaker 2: Like yes, yes, ended there.
Speaker 3: So that's right.
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