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<v Speaker 1>I'm right. Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of Ion Geopolitics.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Dimitch con Tako, so I'm here with the full crew.

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Milburn, Mick Mulroy, Jason Lyons. A lot happened today, big,

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<v Speaker 1>big sabotage attack in Russia by Ukraine hit a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of aircraft, a ton of strategic bombers at an incredible operation,

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<v Speaker 1>and like, let's just crack into it. You guys want

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<v Speaker 1>to mud wrestle for who goes first?

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<v Speaker 2>You tell me, I'll jump in if you want, go

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<v Speaker 2>for it. Andy, all right, so you know essentially and

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<v Speaker 2>guys jump in. Of course, here's what we know right

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<v Speaker 2>now at upwards forty and upwards, strategic bombers have been destroyed. So,

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<v Speaker 2>for instance, something like twenty seven Russian TU ninety five,

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<v Speaker 2>and those of you out there who are egg geeks

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<v Speaker 2>or followers of Alex Holings on, to U ninety five

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<v Speaker 2>is very important to the Russians because they use it

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<v Speaker 2>as a missile platform. In fact, a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>cruise missiles that are launched that Kiev are being fired

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<v Speaker 2>by the t U ninety five, for instance, from over

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<v Speaker 2>the Caspian Sea. Anyway, that's not the point. The main

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<v Speaker 2>point is like at least forty of these strategic bombers,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's strategic aircraft and deep located deep within

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<v Speaker 2>side Russia four bases. Okay, and the reports vary, but

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<v Speaker 2>as far as how deep inside Russia, one report says

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<v Speaker 2>as far as names of place as deep as four

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<v Speaker 2>thousand kilometers inside Russia have been destroyed by multiple FPV

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<v Speaker 2>and other types of drones, mostly FPV drones. How did

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<v Speaker 2>it happen? Well, apparently it's an SBU operation. SBU is

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<v Speaker 2>their intelligence agency, not their military intelligence agency, but their

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<v Speaker 2>equivalent of the CIA, and it's a eighteen month operation

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<v Speaker 2>was planned for eighteen months by the head of the

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<v Speaker 2>SBU is a guy named Vassilo Maluk by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>who was born in nineteen eighty three, so he's a

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<v Speaker 2>young guy, and he began the war actually as a

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<v Speaker 2>as a soldier. He fought, he was involved in the

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<v Speaker 2>fighting for the airport early on in the war. And

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<v Speaker 2>so what they did this is really astounding. They smuggled

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<v Speaker 2>in multiple FPV drones unknown how many, but it's probably,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, probably upwards to of one hundred or more.

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<v Speaker 2>And they smuggled in these wooden compartments all right, and

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<v Speaker 2>I say smuggled in, I mean that's not that easy.

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<v Speaker 2>But somehow they got them in over land and then

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<v Speaker 2>subsequently welded or attached these compartments with the drones inside,

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<v Speaker 2>to trucks that they knew the routes of these trucks

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<v Speaker 2>would lead them within a few kilometers of the various

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<v Speaker 2>bases that they've attacked. Okay, so you can imagine all

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<v Speaker 2>the background that has to go into planning this. The

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<v Speaker 2>truck drivers are unwitting. And here's the really astonishing part

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<v Speaker 2>that we don't we can't answer how this was done,

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<v Speaker 2>but it appears as though the FPV drones were operated

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<v Speaker 2>from inside Ukraine. And if you look on in Twitterland

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<v Speaker 2>you'll see now there's video of the trucks exploding. In

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<v Speaker 2>one case, Russian soldiers are boarding the truck to try

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<v Speaker 2>and stop the drones from taking off and the right

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<v Speaker 2>and the truck just catches on fire and then explodes.

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<v Speaker 2>So factored into this were, you know, some means of

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<v Speaker 2>destroying the evidence and killing anyone who tried to come

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<v Speaker 2>on board to prevent this from happening. I'll pause there

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<v Speaker 2>for a moment. Let's see what you guys have to

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<v Speaker 2>add to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Mick Nick, you're muted it you're muted.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, Well, what I would say is, hats off to

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<v Speaker 3>the SBU. It's a you know, I'm very familiar with,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know this is going to go down in history.

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<v Speaker 3>Is one of the most effective, certainly in the cost

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<v Speaker 3>effective range. Right, You're looking at some of these drones

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<v Speaker 3>that are like five hundred dollars and they're taken out

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<v Speaker 3>billion dollar aircraft. And I'm just getting because I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to be talking about this on ABC to show you

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<v Speaker 3>the level of this. ABC usually doesn't break in on

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<v Speaker 3>the weekends for this kind of stuff, but they are,

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<v Speaker 3>so it really does show you how enormousis was. It

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<v Speaker 3>looks like there were four different air bases that were targeted,

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<v Speaker 3>and I mean, it's almost worth going down the list

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<v Speaker 3>of aircraft that were taken out because it's a lot,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like like Andy said, billions of dollars worth

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<v Speaker 3>of strategic aircraft which are not easily replaced. And it

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<v Speaker 3>shows that once again, Russia is not anything near what

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<v Speaker 3>we had made them out to be. When you can't

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<v Speaker 3>even protect your places like this, thousands and thousands of

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<v Speaker 3>kilometers inside Russia. But this is part of a much

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<v Speaker 3>bigger discussion, right. So we saw a lot of talk

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<v Speaker 3>this week with Senator Graham and Blumenthal and visiting President

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<v Speaker 3>Zelensky talking about the sanctioning Russia's Russia Act. That needs

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<v Speaker 3>to happen. It means we need to stop talking about

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<v Speaker 3>these things. It's claire Russia is not interested at all

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<v Speaker 3>and ceasefire negotiations. I mean they proposed Istanbul and then

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<v Speaker 3>didn't show up basically even though President Trump was willing

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<v Speaker 3>to show up and President Solenski was willing to show up.

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<v Speaker 3>There's one party to this and it's been the same

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<v Speaker 3>party since the invasion that isn't interested in the ceasefire.

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<v Speaker 3>They only understand strength. This was showed. This showed strength

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<v Speaker 3>today and it showed us. And then there's even other

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<v Speaker 3>videos of other attacks going on today. I'm sure will

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<v Speaker 3>we met with Russia sen and cruise missiles and drones

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<v Speaker 3>right at civilians as it's done the whole time. Another

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<v Speaker 3>war crime. But it's time and I think you can

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<v Speaker 3>see the movement on including in Japan but also in Europe,

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<v Speaker 3>on releasing frozen Russian assets and they need to pass

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<v Speaker 3>this sectioning Russia Act, which will have a devastating effect

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<v Speaker 3>potentially on Russia's ability to keep this war going financially.

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<v Speaker 3>So hats off to them a hell of an operation.

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<v Speaker 3>This is going to be dissected by every military of

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<v Speaker 3>the planet right now to see how this was carried

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<v Speaker 3>out and how they can potentially do in the future

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<v Speaker 3>and defending goodness in the future, because this is going

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<v Speaker 3>to lead to a whole different discussion on the use

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<v Speaker 3>of drones, which is coming so fast. I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>people even understand modern militaries, don't even understand the impact

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<v Speaker 3>of what's going on in Ukraine on the future of warfare.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you add that artificial intelligence in quantum computing,

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<v Speaker 3>we're about to enter on a whole new air. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't even know if science fiction has even caught up

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<v Speaker 3>depicting what this era is going to be.

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<v Speaker 2>So clearly it's time to coincide with I'm sorry, mat Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>clearly it's it's it's time possibly to coincide with with

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<v Speaker 2>Senators Graham. Senator Graham and Bluementhal's visit to Kiev, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're in Kiev for now, and Silansky has

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<v Speaker 2>just said to them, look, we have a roadmap for peace,

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<v Speaker 2>we'd like to present it again and evidently had this

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<v Speaker 2>up his sleeve, which is which is masterful timing. As

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<v Speaker 2>we talk about the Russians don't understand please for peace

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<v Speaker 2>or anything, but they do understand when they lose thirty

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<v Speaker 2>percent of their strategic athleet.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, there's things popping up on the

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<v Speaker 2>news sadly. One it looks like one of these truck

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<v Speaker 2>drivers was lynched or killed by Russian security forces and

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<v Speaker 2>there's a picture of them swung out on the road

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<v Speaker 2>with a rope around his neck. And the Russians have

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<v Speaker 2>released two others having determined that they were unwitting crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Jason, give us a rundown of like what was

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<v Speaker 1>lost and stuff like that. I think you have like

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<v Speaker 1>a good handle on what.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's kind of conflicting because some of the number

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<v Speaker 6>the numbers saying forty aircraft were hit, but the numbers

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<v Speaker 6>that I'm getting it's way way over that. So I'll

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<v Speaker 6>just read you the types of it aircraft and their significance.

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<v Speaker 6>So we have some T one sixty Blackjacks, that is

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<v Speaker 6>the and I'm giving you the NATO designation Blackjack. Those

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<v Speaker 6>are the equivalent of their answer to the B one

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<v Speaker 6>USB one bomber supersonic bomber long range. As Andy mentioned,

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<v Speaker 6>some t U ninety five ms bears. Those are Cold

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<v Speaker 6>War era propeller driven bombers, but have massive range for

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<v Speaker 6>launching cruise missiles, anti ship missiles, those sorts of things.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're using those almost every night, right, lobbing over

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<v Speaker 1>cruise missiles.

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<v Speaker 6>Yep. Absolutely. And then a couple of IL seventy eight

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<v Speaker 6>m mitas aircraft. They are military transports pardon my notes here,

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<v Speaker 6>Some AM twenty six CURL military transport aircraft. A couple

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<v Speaker 6>of AN twelve cubs those are also Cold War era

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<v Speaker 6>transport and patrol aircraft. Also significant. Some TU twenty two

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<v Speaker 6>M three backfire supersonic bombers. Those are also Cold War

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<v Speaker 6>air aircraft, some MiG thirty one Foxhounds. Foxhounds, they're supersonic interceptors.

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<v Speaker 6>They're developing the seventies, if I'm not mistaken.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>So, and then there's rumor I don't know if they

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<v Speaker 6>were hit or up, but probably the most significant aircraft

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<v Speaker 6>that were lost, if this is true, or some two

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<v Speaker 6>af A fifty mainstay aircraft. They are airborne early warning

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<v Speaker 6>and control aircraft, so they can control multiple areas of

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<v Speaker 6>the battlefield. Aircraft, missiles, they're not armed themselves, but they

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<v Speaker 6>can control those things. And from what I understand, there

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<v Speaker 6>were only six operational ones because there were others that

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<v Speaker 6>were lost earlier as of twenty twenty four, So if

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<v Speaker 6>they lost two more or even one, that's a significant loss.

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<v Speaker 6>So that's the rundown that I have so far.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys, can't I can't think of I can't think of

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<v Speaker 2>a special operations case. And I mean, I'm sorry, special

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<v Speaker 2>operations operation that rivals this, can you guys certainly you

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<v Speaker 2>know in modern times, please let us know.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>And and the fact just the fact that you're you're

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<v Speaker 6>using and I've heard others in the media use the

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<v Speaker 6>term special operations, like most traditional special operations that people

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<v Speaker 6>think of are green bereys, you know, seals, maresc. That

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<v Speaker 6>sort of thing. And the fact that drones have been

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<v Speaker 6>now placed in that realm is it's pretty significant.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean the intelligence that went into this, it's yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's likely what we're going to be seeing in the future.

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<v Speaker 2>And incredibly ballsy actions on the ground, you know, getting

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<v Speaker 2>getting them on top, welled in on top of the trucks.

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<v Speaker 2>However they were attached on top of these trucks without

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<v Speaker 6>hearing that Zelenski himself took a personal interest in this

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<v Speaker 6>and overseeing this, do you know if that's right makes sense?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, this is strategic level, This is a strategic

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<v Speaker 3>impact operation for sure. I guess they probably could have

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<v Speaker 3>guessed how successful it could have been when they were

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<v Speaker 3>planning this and it looks like, you know, hit met expectations.

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<v Speaker 3>So I hope this translates. Obviously it's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>a military, huge military setback for Russia, but I hope

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<v Speaker 3>it translates to people understanding that Ukraine is not losing

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<v Speaker 3>back the back not only the person the country that's

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<v Speaker 3>got the mic and the smarts, and they're they're they

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it turns out they do have some cards to play,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And Melayak has been you know, we've mentioned, we

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<v Speaker 2>Also relatively young guy late no and now forty years old,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's been behind a lot of the he was,

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<v Speaker 2>so the GUA is behind You remember all the talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the Russian insurgent groups withinside Russia, and that was

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<v Speaker 2>But the SBU was behind the Crimean bridge attack if

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<v Speaker 2>you remember that, and the and thee the sea drone

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<v Speaker 2>attacks too. In fact, that one of the sea drones

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<v Speaker 2>is named after Maluk, the head of the SBU, And

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<v Speaker 2>as head of the SDU. You know it was I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if you're tracking, but earlier on in the war,

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<v Speaker 2>Ukraine has some problems to solve itself. Zelenski was evidently watching,

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<v Speaker 2>realizing that I was right, and fired five senior guys

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<v Speaker 2>Maluo after he was appointed, personally arrested the chief of

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<v Speaker 2>staff of SBU's counter terrorism center as a Russian agent,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's exposed three hundred's the SPU's arrested just in

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<v Speaker 2>the last few months, three hundred alleged Russian or Ukrainian

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<v Speaker 2>traitors within the Ukrainian security Service. So he's cleaning house

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<v Speaker 2>inside and he's doing you know, he's him doing incredible

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<v Speaker 2>things against Russia itself. You know, just finish up by

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<v Speaker 2>saying that we talked about the fact that Russia not

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<v Speaker 2>only has lost control of the seas, but has lost

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<v Speaker 2>most of its black sea fleet, and the Ukrainian and

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's all been asymmetric attacks. And in the

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<v Speaker 2>same way, you know, here we are faffing around with

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<v Speaker 2>thirty billion dollar aircraft carriers over.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew it. I knew you were going to bring

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<v Speaker 1>it back instinct.

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<v Speaker 2>According to our own Secretary of Defense, within twenty minutes, right,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what he said today. Every single US aircraft carry

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<v Speaker 2>can be sunk within twenty minutes. But what's a real

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<v Speaker 2>aircraft carrier. It's an articulated lorry, right, as the heads

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<v Speaker 2>the British say, I just knew it.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew I was coming back to go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>make sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>Is the support that the US has in the pipeline

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<v Speaker 3>is going to run out, right, So there's talk discussions

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<v Speaker 3>underway of Europe buying our stuff and giving it to them,

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<v Speaker 3>and we just need to not only continue our support,

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<v Speaker 3>we need to increase our support. That's what the leader

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<v Speaker 3>of the free world does. When a one country, particularly

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<v Speaker 3>a country we identified from multiple national security strategies as

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<v Speaker 3>one of our biggest adversary, invades the democratic country, we

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<v Speaker 3>need to support. I'm going to be a broken record

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<v Speaker 3>on this, but the problem is is there's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of talk, and the talk's going in the right direction,

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<v Speaker 3>but there isn't a lot of action. Pass the bill,

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<v Speaker 3>increase the support, release the funds of frozen assets. This

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<v Speaker 3>is the time to really make difference. If you want

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<v Speaker 3>to see a ceasfire, it's gonna have to be Russia

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<v Speaker 3>seas itself losing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we have an opportunity here.

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<v Speaker 6>Absolutely, I'm I guess h early estimates are saying that

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<v Speaker 6>if the reporting is correct on the aircraft that were

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<v Speaker 6>struck in the damage onto these airfields, there's about it's

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<v Speaker 6>about two billion dollars in damage if it's true, which

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<v Speaker 6>is a huge blow. And then also I think Andy,

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<v Speaker 6>you sent us the link on x about a explosion

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<v Speaker 6>observed at several Amorsk, home to Russian submarines.

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<v Speaker 2>Your mut muty, Yeah, that's gonna be interesting to see.

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<v Speaker 2>There's much chatter and twitter land on that, but there's

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<v Speaker 2>more than I mean, there's multiple reports now of explosions there,

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<v Speaker 2>suggesting maybe somehow they've combined this with an attack on

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<v Speaker 2>with fpvs.

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<v Speaker 6>And soon I saw two major bridges were hit as well.

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't see where nine dead and uh yeah, I

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<v Speaker 6>think one fell on a h a civilian train as well,

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<v Speaker 6>so it'd probably be more casualties. But yeah, bold moves.

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<v Speaker 3>Just think about what's going on right now in the

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<v Speaker 3>US military, right all look at our all our bomber bases,

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<v Speaker 3>look at our uh, you know, nuclear submarines.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got very comfortable with, you know, having conventional overmatch

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<v Speaker 3>of all our adversaries. But this has changing the equation entirely.

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<v Speaker 6>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, this is this is in my estimation, this

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<v Speaker 3>calls for like an immediate freaking, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 3>you want to call it, summit coming together to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about where this is headed and how we make sure

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<v Speaker 3>we maintain our superiority.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, agreed, I'm not optimistic. We moved so slowly. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of an interesting dichotomy, right if I can

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<v Speaker 2>say that word D.

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<v Speaker 1>On this show of course does feel free?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we have a we have an assistance a

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<v Speaker 2>military assistance group within Kiev. Now, I mean the US

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<v Speaker 2>military does we and yes, But but what I'm heading

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<v Speaker 2>on this is the days of US teaching Ukrainians anything

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<v Speaker 2>a lot gone. I mean, we need we need to

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<v Speaker 2>be learning from them at every single level what they

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<v Speaker 2>have learned on the ground for everything from how that

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<v Speaker 2>their soldiers fight, how they organize, to you know, this

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<v Speaker 2>kind of special operation. I mean, we need to be

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<v Speaker 2>learning and I'm not sure we are humble enough as

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<v Speaker 2>an institution to do that. But you know, to mix

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<v Speaker 2>point everything from our vulnerability is our use of high

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<v Speaker 2>end drones and weapons systems that are incredibly vulnerable. We

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<v Speaker 2>talked about losing thirty, you know, thirty predators over Yemen

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<v Speaker 2>in the last few years, each of which is thirty

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<v Speaker 2>million billion, I mean thirty sorry, thirty million dollars. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we just don't learn, and yet the Ukrainians are mass generating.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I read about one factory turning out ten

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<v Speaker 2>thousand a month. You know, last time I was seeing

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<v Speaker 2>like one thousand a month, I was way low. People

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<v Speaker 2>were sending in comments about that, and we just are

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<v Speaker 2>nowhere nearvous And our acquisition system operates like glacial speed.

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<v Speaker 2>By the time that we you know, we've chosen to

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<v Speaker 2>adopt a platform or weapons system and costing multi multimillion dollars,

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<v Speaker 2>and by the time it hits the assembly line, it's

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<v Speaker 2>already obsolete. We've got nothing, done nothing to fix that.

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<v Speaker 2>We will do nothing to fix it. At the infantry level.

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<v Speaker 2>And certainly, I'm speaking for the Marine Corps, we are

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<v Speaker 2>hopelessly inadequately trained. I know that sounds like blasphemy, but

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<v Speaker 2>the Marine Rifle Squad operates in much the same way

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<v Speaker 2>did twenty years ago. It's no more lethal, has the

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<v Speaker 2>same weapons systems that the use of drones isn't off

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<v Speaker 2>the thought if they use them at all. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we really need to we really need to wake up,

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<v Speaker 2>will we? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Another aspect of this is controlling the transfer of technology.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, so we.

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<v Speaker 3>As a country, legislation, whatever we need to do, we

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<v Speaker 3>need to ensure that we're not only capitalizing on the

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<v Speaker 3>technological advantages. But we're doing everything we can to prevent

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<v Speaker 3>our adversaries from because you know, let's face it, they

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<v Speaker 3>generally their plan China and talking about specifically, it's let

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<v Speaker 3>the Americans develop it, innovate it, and then we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to steal it and then mass produce it. We've got

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<v Speaker 3>to make sure that that we cut that chain right.

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<v Speaker 3>And one of the ways to do that is to

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<v Speaker 3>work with your allies. I know it's not the popular

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<v Speaker 3>approach right now, but we can do that if we

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<v Speaker 3>work with our allies. And important to point out, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if you look at where the hubs in the United

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<v Speaker 3>States are for technological advantage or advancement, I should say

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<v Speaker 3>it's in northern California and around Boston. Why because that's

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<v Speaker 3>what the universities that produce the best of the best

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<v Speaker 3>are coming out of. We need to ensure that that continues.

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<v Speaker 3>Like whatever political issues you know between the administration and

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<v Speaker 3>I'll leave that to the political folks, but from a

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<v Speaker 3>military standpoint, we want the best in the brightest come

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<v Speaker 3>to the United States and.

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<v Speaker 2>We want to take them.

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<v Speaker 3>We want to we want to basically steal them.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't mean kidnapping.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, if you look at the top ten

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<v Speaker 3>you know tech companies in the United States. I just

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<v Speaker 3>heard this morning, five of them are run by immigrants

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<v Speaker 3>into the United States. I mean, just go down the list.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, hell, Elon Musk right, let's let's let's let's

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<v Speaker 3>try to get the best talent in the world the

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<v Speaker 3>right way by lording to the United States for the

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<v Speaker 3>best education and keep it up right, So this is

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<v Speaker 3>all tied together. It's not a separate thing. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>just an economic issue. It's about the preservation of our

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, yeah, right on a couple of things. In note,

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<v Speaker 1>that the Trump administration was notified of this attack and

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<v Speaker 1>they've protracted the trumpet. The administration wasn't notified until after

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<v Speaker 1>this went down. So you know, there's just different disinformation

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<v Speaker 1>running rampant for sure, like everywhere, everyone's gonna get caught

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<v Speaker 1>up in it because this is happening so fast. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like the last time this was like it's such

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<v Speaker 1>an insane sabotage clandestine covert op was Israel and the

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<v Speaker 1>pagers with hesbolo. I guess shocking wise, right, like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is I mean, the scale of this is

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, yes, that's right. We were astounded a few

421
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<v Speaker 2>months ago at the sophistication of that operation and there

422
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<v Speaker 2>and now it seems like a.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they can't replace those aircraft, like they probably

424
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<v Speaker 1>don't even the assembly lines to make new ones still

425
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<v Speaker 1>because they're you know, they built them in the sixties

426
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<v Speaker 1>and seventies or probably before then. Also another one, there's

427
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<v Speaker 1>some chirping going on in like the Russia Telegram world

428
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<v Speaker 1>about like how this opens up the possibility of a

429
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<v Speaker 1>nuclear tactical nuclear retaliation. What do you I think it's bullshit?

430
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<v Speaker 1>What are your thoughts on that?

431
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<v Speaker 6>I agree it's bullshit. I don't think it's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, if they're gonna do it, they're gonna do it.

433
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<v Speaker 2>Here's the thing.

434
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<v Speaker 3>They're always gonna say, they're gonna use us. So so

435
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<v Speaker 3>what is zukrain not supposed to win because they might

436
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<v Speaker 3>use nukes?

437
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's uh yeah, I mean it'd be horrible

439
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<v Speaker 3>if they do. But you got you're in it to

440
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<v Speaker 3>win it, so you take every possible chance. You got

441
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<v Speaker 3>to to put them on our heels. Absolutely, And if

442
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<v Speaker 3>they use nuclear weapons even technical you know it's a

443
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<v Speaker 3>low yield, it's gonna spread into Poland and out and

444
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<v Speaker 3>I think should be considered an attack on NATO.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you got to assume that. Like talking about before,

446
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<v Speaker 1>we were talking about like learning the tactics and what's

447
00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:05.240
<v Speaker 1>going on now in the war in Ukraine, Like we

448
00:26:05.279 --> 00:26:07.759
<v Speaker 1>should be like at you know, learning this stuff as

449
00:26:07.960 --> 00:26:10.960
<v Speaker 1>the US military. You have to assume Poland is like

450
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<v Speaker 1>hoovering this information up right, like because they're on the

451
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<v Speaker 1>front line right there with Belarus and stuff like that,

452
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<v Speaker 1>like they they need to be gearing up for it

453
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<v Speaker 1>if it were to ever happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you saw General Petraeus I think this week talking

455
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<v Speaker 3>about he thinks Lithuania is next, right, So if we don't,

456
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<v Speaker 3>if we don't assist Ukraine and in winning this, it's

457
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<v Speaker 3>gonna spread. It's pretty obvious and it's time for It's

458
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<v Speaker 3>time for action. Less words, more action.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I absolutely agree. I Mean when I when I

460
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<v Speaker 6>coached and played football, there was a mantra that we

461
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<v Speaker 6>use their weakness is our weakness, so we could be great,

462
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<v Speaker 6>have the best defense in the state. But all it

463
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<v Speaker 6>takes is one miss step coupled with that hubris of

464
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<v Speaker 6>we have the best defense in the state and now

465
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<v Speaker 6>we're then we've made the same mistakes are and we're

466
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<v Speaker 6>getting our asses handed to us. So I think, like

467
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<v Speaker 6>you said, make some sort of consortium. Something needs to

468
00:27:13.519 --> 00:27:16.200
<v Speaker 6>be looked at in the United States, take a step

469
00:27:16.240 --> 00:27:18.599
<v Speaker 6>back and say where are we vulnerable? Because if you

470
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<v Speaker 6>think about it, it was a great special operation. They

471
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<v Speaker 6>were able to smuggle these trucks in and pull this

472
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<v Speaker 6>operation off. But think about here in the United States,

473
00:27:27.640 --> 00:27:31.920
<v Speaker 6>trucks drive everywhere freely, you know. So, and I'm an

474
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<v Speaker 6>aircraft geek and I'm always looking at videos of they

475
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<v Speaker 6>call them plane spotters, who will sit outside of military

476
00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:39.880
<v Speaker 6>bases and freely take pictures of these planes taking off

477
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<v Speaker 6>and landing and everything. So what says that this couldn't

478
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<v Speaker 6>happen here? You know, we need to definitely get off

479
00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:47.640
<v Speaker 6>our harright horst and take a look back and say,

480
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<v Speaker 6>you know, take a step back and say where are

481
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<v Speaker 6>we vulnerable? In this same way?

482
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Putin's been threatening nuclear escalations since the beginning

483
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<v Speaker 2>of the Wall. You know, frankly, what do you think

484
00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:01.839
<v Speaker 2>is holding him back. It's not the goodness of his heart.

485
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<v Speaker 2>It's not that oh yeah, hey, I would do it,

486
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<v Speaker 2>and I'm too nice a guy. He's not doing it

487
00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:11.640
<v Speaker 2>because he knows what's going to happen in return, and

488
00:28:12.039 --> 00:28:15.039
<v Speaker 2>we haven't figured that out with you know, all the

489
00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:20.400
<v Speaker 2>Russian sympathizers on the left and the right here constantly

490
00:28:20.400 --> 00:28:22.559
<v Speaker 2>referred we're on the brink of the Third World War,

491
00:28:23.079 --> 00:28:26.079
<v Speaker 2>you know whoever it is. And under under Biden, it

492
00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:28.319
<v Speaker 2>was the right wing accusing him of bringing us to that.

493
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<v Speaker 2>And now you know there's there's concern that there's accusations

494
00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:37.880
<v Speaker 2>that Zelenski is doing that. Well, no, it's like a

495
00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Russian is. Russia is the aggressor. By the way, it

496
00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:44.480
<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter how we want to try and twist history.

497
00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:48.680
<v Speaker 2>Russia is the aggressor and b Russia is not motivated

498
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<v Speaker 2>by any feeling of benevolence towards the global world order.

499
00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:56.440
<v Speaker 2>Putin doesn't care about casualties, even his own. If he

500
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<v Speaker 2>has not used nuclear weapons yet, it's because he is

501
00:28:58.920 --> 00:29:01.400
<v Speaker 2>shit scared. That's that they're going to be used against

502
00:29:01.480 --> 00:29:05.000
<v Speaker 2>him too, in which will precipitate his downfall. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>that is so obvious. It's just amazing that we have

504
00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:10.359
<v Speaker 2>to explain it on this show. But Diaz, you described

505
00:29:10.440 --> 00:29:13.640
<v Speaker 2>the show. Really the level that we're pitching is to

506
00:29:13.640 --> 00:29:16.880
<v Speaker 2>to cater for those who like the obvious being explained

507
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<v Speaker 2>to them.

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<v Speaker 6>I would say we would lose We're gonna lose listeners

509
00:29:23.559 --> 00:29:23.880
<v Speaker 6>after that.

510
00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:26.480
<v Speaker 2>But no, no, right now.

511
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<v Speaker 1>There was also like a like a thread of thought

512
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<v Speaker 1>that what went down in the Russian telegram world about

513
00:29:35.440 --> 00:29:39.319
<v Speaker 1>how this was their Pearl Harbor. It's like, guys, are

514
00:29:39.359 --> 00:29:43.319
<v Speaker 1>we fucking living in the same world. Like Andy just said,

515
00:29:43.920 --> 00:29:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Russia is by far and away, without a shadow of

516
00:29:46.720 --> 00:29:50.200
<v Speaker 1>doubt the fucking aggressor here. So for them to beget.

517
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<v Speaker 3>There, if we invaded Japan first, right, and then they

518
00:29:53.960 --> 00:29:56.920
<v Speaker 3>fought back and blew up, then it would.

519
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<v Speaker 1>Be like, yeah, anything else on this, I mean, it's

520
00:30:00.839 --> 00:30:03.480
<v Speaker 1>pretty unprecedented thing. I know it's gonna be going on

521
00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:05.240
<v Speaker 1>all day. We've all been on our phones while we've

522
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<v Speaker 1>been doing this. It's looking at like any updates and

523
00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:07.960
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 6>I still want to try to have Alex on at

525
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<v Speaker 6>some point talk about the aircraft losses.

526
00:30:13.839 --> 00:30:17.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he would be great. Alex's uh, of course, airpower

527
00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:23.039
<v Speaker 1>Sandbox News. He's the you know, an expert on aviation,

528
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<v Speaker 1>I would say military aviation. I mean, do we even

529
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<v Speaker 1>talk about anything else here than this because this is

530
00:30:28.720 --> 00:30:31.480
<v Speaker 1>just the first thing that popped off and is insane?

531
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think this is it. Yeah, I mean, and

532
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<v Speaker 2>I think I think as usual, you know, there's normally

533
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<v Speaker 2>about these things, there's a flood of information and then

534
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<v Speaker 2>there's there's gonna be a little bit of a gap,

535
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<v Speaker 2>and then we'll get more. We'll probably hear whether or

536
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<v Speaker 2>not the h we'll get a little more charity on

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<v Speaker 2>which Russian bases were were hit.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, what we do know is roughly the order

540
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<v Speaker 2>of magnitude of aircraft destroyed because has been very the

541
00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:03.839
<v Speaker 2>videos of it, and all these bloggers and geeks who

542
00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:09.119
<v Speaker 2>follow this stuff on on Twitter have been counting them.

543
00:31:09.240 --> 00:31:12.000
<v Speaker 2>And by the way, so if you notice on all

544
00:31:12.039 --> 00:31:15.119
<v Speaker 2>the FPV drones, and Alex will explain this, it's probably

545
00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:17.759
<v Speaker 2>a very obvious point to Alex. But again, you know,

546
00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:19.920
<v Speaker 2>I have made a career out of stating the obvious.

547
00:31:20.160 --> 00:31:25.200
<v Speaker 2>But the fpvs are being driven right into the wing route.

548
00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Have you noticed like the same place on every aircraft

549
00:31:27.960 --> 00:31:30.279
<v Speaker 2>and apparently that is you know, if you're going to

550
00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:32.759
<v Speaker 2>do a single strike on an aircraft, that's that's the

551
00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:36.759
<v Speaker 2>best place to head. And the fact that, as you

552
00:31:36.759 --> 00:31:40.759
<v Speaker 2>guys pointed out, four hundred dollars drone in sand.

553
00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:42.079
<v Speaker 6>Can do that.

554
00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:44.480
<v Speaker 2>Dam it's just by striking at that one point.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a possibility you think that they had like

556
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<v Speaker 1>were the fiber optic ones, but the fiber optics were

557
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<v Speaker 1>connected to the actual cab of the truck. No, right,

558
00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:55.279
<v Speaker 1>So how are they controlling it so deep into Russia?

559
00:31:55.400 --> 00:31:56.279
<v Speaker 1>That's the wild thing.

560
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<v Speaker 2>That's what I don't understand. And the fiber optic connect

561
00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:02.519
<v Speaker 2>to the truck wouldn't make any sense because the ground

562
00:32:02.920 --> 00:32:05.079
<v Speaker 2>the fiber optics is supposed to connect to.

563
00:32:05.200 --> 00:32:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, So.

564
00:32:08.359 --> 00:32:12.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean I mean that that is that is a

565
00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:17.839
<v Speaker 2>complete unknown. I haven't heard of fbvs being controlled from

566
00:32:17.839 --> 00:32:21.759
<v Speaker 2>that kind of distance. I mean, if we're talking, if

567
00:32:21.759 --> 00:32:25.319
<v Speaker 2>we're really talking, I think it must be an exaggeration

568
00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:27.839
<v Speaker 2>where someone said four thousand clicks in for one of

569
00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:28.359
<v Speaker 2>these bases.

570
00:32:28.359 --> 00:32:30.559
<v Speaker 1>But if not, but let's say it's a thousand if

571
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:36.079
<v Speaker 1>we're talking eighteen hundred clicks, Yeah, unprecedented, yea, right, No,

572
00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:39.079
<v Speaker 1>these drones are like the range is like fifty kilometers.

573
00:32:39.240 --> 00:32:41.000
<v Speaker 1>It's not super like long.

574
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<v Speaker 3>Isn't the base like four thousand?

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00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:46.079
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's like forty three hundred clicks.

576
00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:48.599
<v Speaker 1>So they must have had somebody on the ground, maybe

577
00:32:48.640 --> 00:32:50.559
<v Speaker 1>not on the truck, not on the truck or in

578
00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:52.599
<v Speaker 1>the truck, but somebody was on that.

579
00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:54.759
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I don't know the I mean, obviously

580
00:32:54.799 --> 00:32:56.480
<v Speaker 2>they had someone on the ground to get this one

581
00:32:56.599 --> 00:33:00.519
<v Speaker 2>set up, but they would have had to have I mean,

582
00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:04.400
<v Speaker 2>this is these are multiple mode. These are you know,

583
00:33:04.519 --> 00:33:08.279
<v Speaker 2>dozens of operators, right, and so putting them on the

584
00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:10.279
<v Speaker 2>ground would make them supremely vulnerable.

585
00:33:11.359 --> 00:33:12.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're right.

586
00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:14.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it makes sense that they were not on

587
00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:17.480
<v Speaker 2>the ground. But how they're doing.

588
00:33:17.319 --> 00:33:20.759
<v Speaker 1>This is so there was a picture of the gentleman

589
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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned who's run who runs the g u R.

590
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<v Speaker 1>He was looking at a like it looked like a

591
00:33:26.359 --> 00:33:29.400
<v Speaker 1>map of one of the bases. It could be possible

592
00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:31.720
<v Speaker 1>with the right amount of intelligence in the right you know,

593
00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:34.000
<v Speaker 1>knowing exactly where the stuff is. Like maybe they pre

594
00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:36.920
<v Speaker 1>programmed these drones to where to fly to.

595
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:44.440
<v Speaker 2>Maybe absolutely maybe, except they're getting live feed from them, right.

596
00:33:44.559 --> 00:33:47.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you have you have a connection somehow. Yeah.

597
00:33:47.599 --> 00:33:51.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So there is a connection. Yeah, and I mean again,

598
00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:54.960
<v Speaker 2>we probably won't find out all the technical details, but

599
00:33:55.039 --> 00:34:00.599
<v Speaker 2>again here we are the most sophisticated nation in the world.

600
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:04.079
<v Speaker 2>I can't imagine us pulling something off like this, Yeah, Nick,

601
00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:06.559
<v Speaker 2>can you? I mean, I know, probably we had a

602
00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:09.880
<v Speaker 2>much better chance when you still at the agency.

603
00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:14.079
<v Speaker 3>I don't know about the most technically capable guy, but

604
00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:16.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean this, I think right now we need to

605
00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:19.280
<v Speaker 3>be planning so that we can pull something like this

606
00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:22.360
<v Speaker 3>off absolutely one hundred percent. I imagine that's not just

607
00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:25.519
<v Speaker 3>the Marine Rifle squad that's behind the power curve on this.

608
00:34:25.639 --> 00:34:30.360
<v Speaker 3>I imagine you could probably even say Jaysack and my old

609
00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:34.239
<v Speaker 3>group Special Activities needs to needs to take suck up

610
00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:37.119
<v Speaker 3>every piece lesson learned that's going on in Ukrain right

611
00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:40.800
<v Speaker 3>now and and start figuring out how to use it,

612
00:34:41.159 --> 00:34:44.400
<v Speaker 3>use it in practical applications preparing now.

613
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, the aviation geek in me took this operation and

614
00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:55.800
<v Speaker 6>put it into terms that of the US, say thirty

615
00:34:55.880 --> 00:34:59.360
<v Speaker 6>years ago, even back in your Vietnam and an operation

616
00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:02.360
<v Speaker 6>of this sort, the aircraft that would have had to

617
00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:06.440
<v Speaker 6>have been used a manned aircraft. It's astounding that they

618
00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:08.000
<v Speaker 6>were able to do this and not just do this.

619
00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:11.719
<v Speaker 6>But the videos that I'm seeing are from a reconnaissance

620
00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:15.760
<v Speaker 6>drone that flew over during and after the attack and

621
00:35:16.039 --> 00:35:18.840
<v Speaker 6>untouched and was able to get over these airfields take

622
00:35:18.880 --> 00:35:21.880
<v Speaker 6>close up pictures of the damage. Actually, I saw one

623
00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:25.480
<v Speaker 6>where it was flying right behind one of the attack

624
00:35:25.559 --> 00:35:29.559
<v Speaker 6>drones and watched it climb up and then dive right into,

625
00:35:29.559 --> 00:35:33.239
<v Speaker 6>as Andy said, the wing root of an aircraft and

626
00:35:33.280 --> 00:35:35.679
<v Speaker 6>destroy it. And then it just flew right over and

627
00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:38.880
<v Speaker 6>kept recording. So the amount of manned aircraft that would

628
00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:42.760
<v Speaker 6>have taken is its astounding that they were able to

629
00:35:42.760 --> 00:35:43.360
<v Speaker 6>pull this off.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, guys, so I can't verify this, but I got

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<v Speaker 2>a message in odds toy so three hundred so as

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and fifty small attack drones and three hundred

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<v Speaker 2>munitions right and one hundred and sixteen drones were launched this.

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<v Speaker 2>The drones were controlled via Russian Russian telecommunications networks with

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<v Speaker 2>automated guidance systems. So I'm gonna need someone to explain

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<v Speaker 2>that a little memoir to me, because they've got automated

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<v Speaker 2>guidance systems. I suppose that as a backup, can you,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean tunneling. So I suppose they tunneled into Russian

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<v Speaker 2>telecommunications networks to control these things. I mean, that's incredible,

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<v Speaker 2>that's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, I mean it totally beats having you know,

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<v Speaker 1>twelve or so guys on the ground. We're controlling these

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<v Speaker 1>that are within twenty kilometers of what's going on, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I suppose you know what. Another point that this really

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<v Speaker 2>has emphasized is how I mean there are layers. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure there will of course be an integrated air defense

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<v Speaker 2>system for every single one of those bases, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>layers of TAY air defense I mean SAM systems EW

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<v Speaker 2>and of course you know patrols. And yet there was

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<v Speaker 2>no early warning, or if there was, it was too late,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're not seeing anything any reports so many of

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<v Speaker 2>these things being shot down, which just shows what a

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<v Speaker 2>difficult task it is when you've got a small quad

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<v Speaker 2>copter or multiple small quad copters that can simply overwhelm

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<v Speaker 2>the system like that, they're operating at a low altitude

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<v Speaker 2>and they're operating a short distance. You know, there's just

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<v Speaker 2>no IADS isn't configured, No I adds is configured to

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<v Speaker 2>defend against that kind of threat. But I love I

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<v Speaker 2>love the fact that they do that trucks were used

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<v Speaker 2>for this, commercial trucks and it's so effective, and I

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<v Speaker 2>do you know, I'm not going to bang on about

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<v Speaker 2>aircraft carriers again, but it really is. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 2>really is a star contrast and illustrates for us what

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<v Speaker 2>twenty first century war fash should look like and it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't look anything like what we're doing.

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<v Speaker 6>And also the ripple effect of this, the mistrust that

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<v Speaker 6>this is going to sow inside of Russia. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>any truck on the road now could be carrying these things,

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<v Speaker 6>so every driver is under scrutiny. Uh, the people who,

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<v Speaker 6>as you just pointed out, Andy, who are in charge

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<v Speaker 6>of air defense, they're under scrutiny all this stuff. So

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<v Speaker 6>though it's a the ripple effect is a big win

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<v Speaker 6>for the Ukrainian So I'm gonna.

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<v Speaker 3>Have to jump in four minutes, all right, ABC breaking in.

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<v Speaker 2>We've told you before about your priorities. Yeah, my god, show.

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<v Speaker 3>You that this is usually don't don't do this on

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<v Speaker 3>the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is I think, Yeah, this is a hot topic. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a big deal. Yeah, maybe know that we know.

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<v Speaker 2>What we need to get out. We need to get

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<v Speaker 2>our version out first before making will.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get this out right away.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're paying more.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>We had more to talk about too, but this is

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<v Speaker 3>kind of dominated.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we got Gaza going on.

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<v Speaker 3>We got the ceasefire rejection by Hamas. By the way,

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<v Speaker 3>if I could put a plug in, no media station

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<v Speaker 3>should put out that Hamas accepted a ceasefire if they

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<v Speaker 3>change the terms. It's just common sense, right. You can't

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<v Speaker 3>say I accept your offer to buy a car when

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<v Speaker 3>you were trying to sell it for five thousand, and

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<v Speaker 3>I come back and say I'll buy it for three thousand.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a rejection of the offer. And then it gets

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<v Speaker 3>everybody all excited for good reason because we'd all like

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<v Speaker 3>to see a seasfire, but all and then they have

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<v Speaker 3>to go, well, it's not really an accepted They said

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<v Speaker 3>that the war has to end in the idea has

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<v Speaker 3>to withdraw. So I put a I would ask all media,

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<v Speaker 3>not just the US, not do that. Explain that they

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<v Speaker 3>rejected the offer.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the problem. They want to get there. They want

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<v Speaker 1>to get their headline out first and their tweet out first.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all they really give a shit about.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Dian, I'm sending you something that you should put

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<v Speaker 2>in in the chat when we put this out. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there's some crazy video here, but check out when I

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<v Speaker 2>just sent you. Tell me if you think that's real.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it apparently it is, but it just looks insane. No,

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<v Speaker 2>it can't be real. But it's a picture of drones

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<v Speaker 2>actually launching from the truck.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, I mean it's we make sure. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>make sure this is the right tweet you sent me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's funny. You're funny, Andy. I will put this in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Andy doing a little shit talking.

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<v Speaker 6>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>That's hilarious. All right, guys, get out of here. Have

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<v Speaker 1>a happy Sunday everybody as well. Obviously we'll have more

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<v Speaker 1>information on this as in the next couple of days.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we'll do something on Wednesday Thursday updating this of course.

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