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Speaker 1: Okay, So today we're talking.
Speaker 2: About rac dose. Yes, so tell us tell us about
the arca evolution. The arc of evolution is as such,
back in twenty nineteen, we had no universes beyond nothing
to impact what we're playing, No power creep for dollars.
They definitely weren't doing that in twenty nineteen. This is
all new for universes beyond Never.
Speaker 1: You're being sarcastic, Yes, I am, because they started doing
that in eighteen and seventeen and sixteen, all the way
back to eleven when they commandeered the commander format and
made it commander instead of e DH.
Speaker 2: You are correct, see, So what I was doing there
was being flippant.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, So speaking of dh our good friends over
at dhreck dot com sent Uncle Brando, our proprietor, and
what do I call you, the the.
Speaker 2: King of the nation, baby, Sure we were the president
and I was yeah, I know, but there was there
was that.
Speaker 1: Other word, the lead of deckless procurement. In this case,
it's the lead of statistical analyzes for Commander Cocoat Enterprise
Statistical Acquirement.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I like that. So you've got all the
stuff you've compiled the top ten this week ractose commanders
from twenty nineteen, and we're gonna go way back in
the way back track machine, which is DHRECK in this case,
and look at the top ten and reminisce and make
fun of and talk about a simpler time and be
nostalgic and reminiscent and hug and cry and all that stuff.
We probably won't be super reminiscent because, like I said,
Ractose turns out my least favorite color pair by a lot,
which is actually weird because gruel is my absolute favorite and.
Speaker 1: Favorite and fifty percent of those colors.
Speaker 2: Are the same. That's right weird to me too.
Speaker 1: I was pleasantly surprised with how much I appreciated all
the Demir commanders from last week, so if you haven't
checked that out, you should.
Speaker 2: And I thought the Azorious ones were actually a lot
of fun, so which is pretty wild. Yeah, and it's insane.
So maybe I may be in black and that was cool.
You like red and black, just not together? Right? How
can they go wrong? That's weird?
Speaker 1: I will say one hundred percent of the time I
played returned to Ravnika Limited.
Speaker 2: Yeah, played Ractose you.
Speaker 1: Go as often as I could. Zendacar Limited played Ractose
tell me I'm wrong there? Hey, that was a good
limited format. That was pretty good, some good.
Speaker 2: Ass shit right there.
Speaker 1: I did get beat to Levi one time when he
had five welcome turns in his draft deck.
Speaker 2: That'll get you there, That'll get you. Yeah, that'll that'll
get you.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna do ractose today, and then the top
ten of now is going to look to see if
the ractose commanders of now are littered with universes beyond
and power creep, et cetera. How many are the same
as they used to be? How many are universes beyond?
Speaker 2: Right now?
Speaker 1: The record universes beyond of the nows is re in
the top ten, which is not very much at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not very many considering that going forward and
sort of already, you know, fifty percent of releases or
universe beyond.
Speaker 1: So yeah, they actually Gavin was just talking about that
on social media or Mark Rosewater or somebody was just
talking about fifty percent is universes beyond. And while it
is profitable, that isn't what they want to do going
forward in twenty seven and eight to nine.
Speaker 2: We should call him corporate chill Water. I'd call him,
Oh yeah, the guy's basically a talking head with a
corporate arms shoved up his ass, working his mouth like
a puppet. Sorry, if you're a big fan of his,
but you know, I am a fan of the development
over the years he shared with the general magic populace
and kind of the inner workings, and of course his
contribution to to gaming as a whole. Yeah, great stuff
until they sold it all out and let somebody put
an arm in his assid work his mouth like poppet.
Speaker 1: Speaking of mouths, we have to dump some of this
pile of bones into our mouth, Uncle Brando. Very long day.
I had a bike trip with my son's school all day.
Very sweaty.
Speaker 2: I work at a bike shop and I didn't even
get to ride a bike today. Yeah, very sweaty. I
was actually going to bring the super duper bike. I
got it. What do you got there? I got a
cold Brew America Americano cold brew stout. I knew that
you'd like that once I brought it for you. I do, yeah,
and I do. Yeah. It was.
Speaker 1: It was actually in the front closet of my house.
I had to find that under some old boots. Nice,
I'm still drinking it. You think I'm lying, No, I don't.
I thought I had one of those, and I did.
I've got a space cadet ipa in memory of the
Space ship that Jeff Bezos wasn't in just now that
blew up.
Speaker 2: Man. No, I'm not going to say it because I
don't want to get flagged by the algorithm. But you
know what, I kind of wish that what you said
wasn't correct. That would be cool. Sure. Yeah, all that
video was amazing. I've seen like I've been watching clips
of it all morning.
Speaker 1: Was like the big explosion I had, dumping more hydrocarbons
into the atmosphere than any other airplane combined all of
the year.
Speaker 2: Hey, and it's all the different songs. It was like
metal track. Do you think that Do you think.
Speaker 1: That ract Dose himself would appreciate that?
Speaker 2: Probably?
Speaker 1: Do you think he's gonna show up on our list? I?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean technically I know the answer to that,
because like, while I don't remember them all, I know
that he does appear at least once in one of
the lists.
Speaker 1: Let's give her card, okay.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, good note for the YouTube watchers. Yeah, if
you watch the screen, we're going to see Brando tries
to remember the Guild symbols from memory and then draw.
Speaker 1: Them and me make fun of them in MS paint,
tell them that they look like a bunch of assholes.
Speaker 2: So the first one was a triangle ass hole and
the last one was like a crab showing his buttthole.
And then what so, let's what somebody.
Speaker 1: With really long nails just grab it and spread. Tell
me I'm wrong, I'm wrong, okay, ractose hmm, this looks
like assholes smushed up against a window on either side
of the window. Then then yes, then yes, this is
two assholes smashed on either side of a window. Card
number nine ten of then yes, scort being god. Yeah,
I didn't even know this guy's good.
Speaker 2: He's not.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's why he's number ten. He's not a six'
five god for ractose in. Three whenever a creature with
a minus one counter on it, dies draw, cards that's.
Speaker 2: Good ractose.
Speaker 1: One put a minus one counter on another target. Creature
IF i do that on a one, one he, DIES
i draw.
Speaker 2: Card that's.
Speaker 1: True Nice lana war elves bro, right nice birds Of.
Speaker 2: Paradise.
Speaker 1: Whatever sure when he, dies return him to your hand
at the next end step sure date. Stamp that's something
that we've been looking. At it's like they knew this
card was. Good, yeah and it's the tenth goodest in twenty.
Speaker 2: NINETEEN i, guess, LIKE i don't, know does this deck
really Need like it's got a card dry engine put on.
It that is a quasi removal suite included in the.
Thing that's.
Speaker 1: It it's, fine. FINE i think having a six' five
beater that's hard to kill in hard to kill in
that you can get it back not to your command
zone but to, your hand but to. Your hand so
if you want to cast, you know your commander again
for five instead of eight.
Speaker 2: Or, seven sorry it's.
Speaker 1: An engine it's if.
Speaker 2: You make big.
Speaker 1: Black manna all you need is a little bit of
red sprinkled in there and you can kill like. Basically,
EVERYTHING yeah i can see why it's good draw a bunch.
Speaker 2: Of, CARDS yeah i mean there's nothing else in black
you'd want to do with a whole bunch of mana? Or,
red right? Who'd wanted what could you possibly do in
red or black with a whole bunch of mana besides
slowly individually ping creatures. To death well you could actually,
do that of course. You could or you could just
kill fucking everybody like.
Speaker 1: With, EXANGLINATE yeah i bet. You exangonate it's going to
be a CARD that i Mentioned in commanders that we're.
GONNA see i feel.
Speaker 2: Like that might. Be, true, ye, well yes there's The Scorpion.
Speaker 1: Scorpion god thanks for, Coming, Out Bud, Yeah, GRENZO okay
i expected to see.
Speaker 2: THIS guy I think lenny when he met him had
A cool grenzo deck or Was.
Speaker 1: It Aiden all Killer No Philer. Miller killer he also
Had a.
Speaker 2: Grenzo, Deck yeah grenzo in the nation.
Speaker 1: Very popular two two goblin rogue for RACTOSE and x
goblin rogue important. Creature types there enters a BATTLEFIELD with
x plus ones. On, him neat we'll see What The
scorpion god has to say.
Speaker 2: About that.
Speaker 1: You can go to put the bottom card of your
library into. Your graveyard if it's a creature card with
power less than or Equal, to grenzos.
Speaker 2: Put it onto the Bee.
Speaker 1: Leat, ah yeah weird combos.
Speaker 2: With, this YES an bottomn card.
Speaker 1: Into graveyard creature getterback or infinite manna like mill your
whole library.
Speaker 2: And get all the dudes out.
Speaker 1: Of it get all the dudes out of, it probably
or get all the dudes that are zero ZEROS for
x that just enter and die so you can get
because you know you got your blood artists And your
zulaport cut. Throat, back yeah you just get all your
zero zeros that immediately die and fucking kill.
Speaker 2: Your, opponents like this is a. Cool card so it's
our deck making infinite manna and then doing one damage
to a bunch of, Stuff, again.
Speaker 1: Eh, Huh interesting you don't have to make. Infinite, mana
no if you did make infinite you could Just cast
grenza for infinite and then vault.
Speaker 2: On, somebody yes you could do that. AS well i
wonder iful going to see or talk about any haste.
Enablers today we might hard. To say, IT'S honestly i.
DON'T know i, couldn't SAY but i know that this
this deck. IS cool i just like shitting, on it
but like it is a. COOL deck i don't exactly
remember how it worked or what the, combos WERE but
i know. THEY exist i know that.
Speaker 1: They're good this is this Deck, is yeah and you
play with you play with those cards that let you
take stuff out of your graveyard and put it onto
the bottom of your library so you know, what's, There
right like if you buried alive and then put two
cards from the bottom of your LIBRARY that i don't
know combo with. Each, other yeah you just it allows
you to play all Of The graveyard Tutors or Tutor
to graveyard cards as regular.
Speaker 2: ASS tutors i think that this card might have been
relegated out of popular parlance or play because of what
was a Doctor who? River song because she's red and
blue and she lets you like she does the same
thing you drop from the bottom, and stuff but she
also gives you access to scry so, you can you
KNOW what, I mean it makes a lot easier to manipulate.
Speaker 1: That card we'll Have to we'll have to check that
out when.
Speaker 2: We do is it maybe the? Nows of is it?
The nous it's? The now Is it's did you see
my super great card renaming on the? Discord yesterday did you? See? It,
oh yeah Something About d's nuts. Or, something no it
wasn't even it wasn't Even A. D's nuts it was
It was magas Of.
Speaker 1: The, Bizarre oh magas Of The guy megas of The
Bros are magas Of the.
Speaker 2: Bizarre Of, Bag Dude, Bag dude oh so. Fucking good
Me and corey laughed. So hard and the other guy we're,
playing with like, newer guy like younger guys didn't even
get it, At all like he was kind of laughing
at how hard we. Were laughing it was like a
Fucking crazy did you.
Speaker 1: Guys think it was extra funny because you're?
Speaker 2: Drink? Beer yes how many beers do? You drink? Just
too but they were, big yeah, two leaders, yes, each,
yes yes we do not. Mess around oh man.
Speaker 1: And here like a coachman licensed beverage room.
Speaker 2: And castine haley was there because of what you m
calls it scheduling conflicts, and stuff and she was. So sunburned.
My goodness it was thirty, eight, Yesterday dude, well yeah
but that's not long enough for you to turn into
a fucking. Red grape have you?
Speaker 1: Seen me not usually Here because. I'm, through YEAH because
i put, sunscreen on BECAUSE if, I didn't i'd be.
Speaker 2: Fucked forever let's see the fucking, number eight, number, eight eight.
Speaker 1: Number eight speaking of, Fuck forever judith has many plays in.
Speaker 2: This, card, yes okay so this is A. DATE stamper
I wish i Could. Date stamper, oh yeah you wish
to you Could. Mushroom stamper THAT'S what i.
Speaker 1: Was, thinking, YES yes i don't think so many plays
THIS card i think she just goes in the deck,
that anyways let's give Her a Rejudith discourged diva is
ractose and one human shaman date stamp two to other
creatures you control get plus one plus zero neat. Pretty
good other creature not of a, creature type, just yep
just all, your. Guys yep whenever a non token creature you,
Control dies judith deals one damage to.
Speaker 2: Any target let me get. This straight you mean to
tell me that we are Playing another rectos commander that
when we do some sort, of thing it. One's, something
yes that's three in. A.
Speaker 1: Row now very need, to Note dear, aristocrat players very
important to note that whenever a creature you, control dies
she deals. One damage it's not loss, of life and
it's to. Any, target yeah so you can yead do
the traditional ractose aristocrats stuff and, That's fine but also
you can sacrifice. Your dude you could put a minus
one on your own dude With Your scorpion god to
draw card and deal a damage to their other guy
with a minus one counter on It Because scorpion god
and draw, another, card, right like this is damage to.
Any target and this really allows you to go aggro
because you can go plus one from her and dies
deals damage to any target. Aka blockers this is a
cool card that does some lifting in ways that you
didn't know you.
Speaker 2: Need lifted she's.
Speaker 1: Actually this is a little bit of a. Tummy tuck
this is the edges of. The eyes this is like
getting you the bridge of your. Nose fixed she's lifted
in ways that you didn't know.
Speaker 2: You needed nipped. And tucked they accentuate the. CUPID'S bow
i don't know what, that MEANS but i saw it
on a MOVIE that.
Speaker 1: I like she'll take wrinkles out of places you didn't
even know you.
Speaker 2: Had, WRINKLES no i knew that that was. THE thing
i already. Knew, that oh you knew, about wrinkles not
having wrinkles. In places you got wrinkles in places people
don't even know they. Had places, that's right because you're.
Speaker 1: Fucking old shut, Up guy this is. Number, eight yes.
SHE'S cool i like her.
Speaker 2: Cool art.
Speaker 1: She's neat you want her to step on? Your, wrinkles,
YES okay i love getting my wrinkles.
Speaker 2: Stepped, on ah. Vile smasher you're a vile smasher right?
Yourself too He, Was Yeah vile smasher. No pride she's
a two three Called the berserker for ractose. And one
whenever you cast her for, a spell, Each Turn vile
Smash the fear steals damage equal to that spell's converted
mane cost to an opponent chosen. At, random okay got
a couple. Of, things okay you missed a word on.
This card oh what it?
Speaker 1: Was?
Speaker 2: IT partner i, already said partner fucking. With, nobody ah
that's not. ALWAYS bad i played ten of The butt
sewer yourself. For years you have you ever you ever
Play Against vile? Smasher? Decks yes Just like i'm gonna
make all, this, Ritual mana i'm gonna cast. This ulawug
i'm gonna roll.
Speaker 1: This dice somebody's taken eleven and you can't even discriminate,
against Me because i'm not discriminating.
Speaker 2: AGAINST you. I smash but let me let me. Tell
you let's say you're gonna, use, ritual mana you can
use it's the. First spell do you know what the first?
Spell is? Fucking ritual you? Know what lots of those,
costs one so it's doing one damage? To, something yeh
fuck four in. A, row, oh yes. Damn it or
maybe maybe maybe We're scorpidying god in it and we're,
making great big amounts of manna to play something like
a torment of hail fire for ten and then you're
gonna hit somebody. For TWELVE maybe i. Don't care It's.
VILE smasher i. Don't care fuck them the first bill
you cast, Each turn.
Speaker 1: Let's just load our deck with, lightning bolts. Et cetera
do one and then. Three more yes'.
Speaker 2: Is mathematically more. Than three that.
Speaker 1: Is true somebody used to Play A vile smasher in our.
Speaker 2: LOCAL meta i Know vile smasher is better than what.
WE'RE saying i, know THAT and I know i've taken
eleven Off an Ula. Mong, oh yeah like you've certainly
taken a bazillion matter not with.
Speaker 1: The, rituals yeah that was a mistake on. My part
But like i'm leaving it, in though so people can
Tell me i'm wrong before they listen to the. Whole
conversation thanks to, YouTube comments.
Speaker 2: How you do, it Man? Vile, smasher yeah. He's fucked.
You know you KNOW what i Like about vilesmasher is
if you put the right empats on. His name he
turns into a. Vile smasher. Vile, smasher yeah that's like
your that's your adult. Video, name yeah.
Speaker 1: Vile, smasher yeah, the fierce. The fierce.
Speaker 2: What was your? Adult?
Speaker 1: Name, dusty, NO uh i, don't Know Wrinkly, DUSTY treadwell i.
Speaker 2: Don't know we made it up a couple of.
Speaker 1: SHOWS ago i don't let us know in, the comments
The old dusty trail.
Speaker 2: Or, something Okay. File smasher there, he was that's. Number, seven,
YEAH man i don't have anything.
Speaker 1: To say it's this. Is ractose it's just damaged indiscriminately
at RANDOM because i put stuff in, my deck because,
of course AND if i, Play instance i'll do it on.
Everybody's turn wait, a SECOND can i play?
Speaker 2: Free? Spells?
Speaker 1: Hell, yeah brother fucking what? Is It Fire blast sacrifice,
two mountains deal, four damage but it's Actually Six.
Speaker 2: SPINNING darkness i guess would be.
Speaker 1: Another, one Yeah, spinning darkness, deadly rollick, pyro kinetics iro, yro.
Kinetics yep, yeah yeah That's The red Force.
Speaker 2: Of. Will, yeah okay now. We're, cooking yeah he's a.
Good card i'm not saying he's a. Bad card i'm
just saying that he's doing the. Interactos, thing oh and
of course we put all the ship that lets us
cast it. For, free yeah of course we. Do. That,
yeah yeah you can sit.
Speaker 1: It, all yeah you can cast it for free or
cast it until end to turn without paying its man,
of cost all the black steel stuff that you play.
Speaker 2: Bowls. Citadel, yes yeah let's see the next. One. RUN
yeah i, like. That guys this one's a little. Bit
different he's a little different in that he's a indestructible
god for seven to five for four is only a
creature if your devotion to red and black is seven.
Or more at the beginning of each opponent's, Up keep
mogus deals two damage to that player unless they sacrifice.
A creature and let me, tell You and i'm gonna
tell you this. For free this is this is free
information you would normally have to pay. For it they always,
Take two so this is another example of a. Ractose
commander it just deals low amounts of damage. To Everybody
often i'll take it because the only time they sacrifice
the creature is when they don't, Have one and then
you probably still have to take two because you don't have.
A creature to sacrifice the.
Speaker 1: Long term tell me if give me some give me
some more. Free info uh, Uh huh I'm gonna i'm
gonna ask. A, question Okay it's french. For, question okay
what are the long term ramifications of taking two?
Speaker 2: Every, turn, well sir in nor in, the wary it
means you're gonna lose. The Game, In mogus God, of
slaughter it's a little bit too slow to actually matter
unless your deck is set up to be, really agro
which this. Will be it's gonna be load to the ground,
and agro and you're gonna get in because their life
total is always lower, than yours and you're gonna be
able to get people.
Speaker 1: With, IT yes i can also Imagine a, mogus DECK
and I think i've only ever Played against mogus maybe.
ONE time i Can imagine mogus deck being a deck
of a bunch of choices, do this or take do
this or take downage, Like browbeat i'm gonna draw three
unless somebody. Takes five and then someone, takes, five yeah
AND don't i don't, mind that because they're gonna go
from like seventeen. To, twelve yeah and then all of,
A sudden i attack them, for seven and now they're
gonna be at FIVE and i could cast maybe one
spell and. Kill, them yeah that's not terrible in.
Speaker 2: That way mogus is. Fairly good but he suffers from
the one of the THINGS that i both love and
hate about this type of magic card in that it
never does the thing you want it. To, do yeah
that's a. Good, one ever it never ever does the
thing you want it. To do this guy has one creature,
in PLAY and i hate HIM and i want it. To,
die yeah he's gonna take till. Take, two yeah. Every.
Time right this guy has a creature you don't give
a fuck about and, five mirror and so he throws
one in the garbage and you've.
Speaker 1: Done nothing think of and maybe they go in the.
Same deck think about this card versus. GRAVE pact I
could i could feasibly throw away a meaningful creature to
get rid of your one guy that's gonna beat me
or is changing, the Game or and that's worst case scenario.
For me best case SCENARIO is i chumplock and by
player THREE and i CHUMPLOCK and i freaking my guy
dies and your guy has to go like that's best.
Case scenarios i'm gaining life right and people people see
a choice like this, and, say, oh yeah, it's bad
but it's. Not always it's not always bad because it's
the least bad thing according to, your opponent which is
usually worse for.
Speaker 2: For, me yeah it's usually the thing that they'll pick
the least bad. Thing for they'll pick the best thing,
for themselves which is usually the worst thing, for you
unless you're. Tricking them and that doesn't mean that the card.
Is bad it just means that it never does what
you fucking wanted, to do and that can be frustrating
after it to, a point you KNOW what. I, mean
like have you ever seen somebody not pay half their
life into a? Temporal? Extortion ever have you ever ever
seen someone take an extra turn with? Temporal extortion if,
you have please put it in, the COMMENTS because i
want to know how much life they paid and how
bad your board. State was god that somebody let you
take an. Extra turn oh, that's good, you know like
take away half of. Somebody's life, BUT like i. HATE
life i would rather have another.
Speaker 1: Fucking turn i'm gonna play temporal extortion to try and
take an extra TURN because i like to.
Speaker 2: Do that i'm gonna pay half my own life hate.
Speaker 1: Life sick Next Card Grevin. Predator, captain okay this.
Speaker 2: CARD good i have to, SAY sorry i should have.
MENTIONED this i meant to sit AND then i forgot
the notes that came along with these cards that the
Twenty Nineteen commander decks that this one, Was, from yeah
was super prevalent in ractos, like oh like it had
a huge actual impact and changed the top ten list immediately. Upon.
RELEASE oh i forgot to mention that because like usually
they don't send like a, little note but there was
little a little note in the message that they. Sent
me it, was, like hey, of note like if depending
on when you look at it during, The, year yeah
either Pre The commander decks coming out or Post The
commander decks. COMING out i picked post because it gave
you the. Most information that deck had a huge impact
on what the.
Speaker 1: TOP was i bet you if you go back to
twenty nineteen and looked at Episodes Of game nights From
The command, Zone, THAT yeah i bet you that's. THE
reason i bet you they previewed and or played those
or twenty nineteen was like the Year that Jimmy and
josh started to do with pre cons on. Game, nights
YEAH and i also know that our Buddies At Da,
Trek cast Dana and Matt. And joey joey was a
huge Fan Of Graven Predator captain Grevinel. Vec grevenel that's
fricking guy who needs to go to. The dentist this
is a five to five human warrior ractose and three.
With menace graven gets plus x, plus zero where x
is the amount of life you've lost.
Speaker 2: This. Turn, fuck, yeah, yeah baby.
Speaker 1: Whenever, he attacks you may sacrifice. Another Creature, oh GOD
could i get any?
Speaker 2: More hard if?
Speaker 1: You DO and i do you draw cards equal to
the creature's power and you lose life equal to.
Speaker 2: His toughness, hell, yeah brother do you just sacrifice a? Fucking?
Speaker 1: Wall yeah that zero thirty? Four, wall yeah. Mind you
i'm gonna give it plus five. Plus, Five first i'm
gonna give a plus.
Speaker 2: Five plus, h OH because i have the dropower with
hatred cast hatred and pay like twenty Life and i'm
gonna draw.
Speaker 1: Twenty cards i'm gonna draw and then he's gonna freaking
power equal to. Thirty four and then it's gonna see
like TWENTY cards X and i'll fuck.
Speaker 2: This card? Is this this card's. Very Good this and
if you think that YOU that i have not personally
witnessed somebody going hatred for sixteen with, this creature you
are very. Very mistaken i've certainly.
Speaker 1: Seen that let me, say this hatred for sixteen sixteen, plus, five.
Speaker 2: Yeah twenty, one, Baby, right okay that's right. For sixteen
and you'll notice, you'll notice wait, a.
Speaker 1: Second but he gets plus for, each one so you'd
only have to do hatred. For, eight, yes somebody somebody must,
have dumbe somebody must have, been me, Got frivolous i'm
paying extra.
Speaker 2: Life, it yeah life is For.
Speaker 1: For chodes life is For Freaking. Grevin lveck he's gonna take,
it all turn it. Into, power yeah and take all
your opponent's.
Speaker 2: Life away and you'll notice that this is the twenty
nineteen commander that APPARENTLY revolutionized ractose at. The time it's
the first one that isn't some fucking chump take one
or two for doing. An action you'll notice.
Speaker 1: That this guy's this guy's gonna get plus one for doing.
An ACTION but i could also do, Plus, sixteen yes
give him plus, Thirty dude fuck you know you only
have to pay for. Commander damage, fuck it this guy
doesn't deal. Commander damage.
Speaker 2: He, Does really i'm gonna kill you with.
Speaker 1: Fucking, both yeah thirty six plus five that's. Forty, one
yeah hell, YEAH yeah i get out like.
Speaker 2: This guy he doesn't need. Commander damage he's a very.
Good man we're so red because we're sweating. SO hard
i want to. Build this.
Speaker 1: You should it's. Very good it's lots of fun freaking.
BUILD them i got a hatred just burning a hole in.
My box put it in this. Freaking deck you know?
Speaker 2: WHAT else i got like a bolus of citadels that in,
There TOO and i just like pay life for everything in.
Speaker 1: My, deck yes and then he's.
Speaker 2: Just huge it's Just all fyrexian mana all. The time
and then those like guys that let You pay fyrexian
mana instead of real mana. For stuff, oh, yeah baby
this would be this deck now still in the. Top
Ten Immolation.
Speaker 1: Gorgeer dragon there's like a two to two for Four
That frexian ferrexian red and is, activated ability and there's
a dragon that does. That too there's two cards that.
Speaker 2: Do that, oh, yeah yeah and they're bothing. Red. Fuck,
yeah yeah it's. Pretty good and also you can Also
play pyrohemia and, every pestilence so you're just nuking there
born as. WELL yourself i can only get. So hard
this is a. Good one this guy's off the top
ten knocking on the at. The table is that the
wood of the table or the Wood? Of? Ryan, yes
yeah because like if this guy's not on the top
ten of now there's a there's a. Conspiracy happening That's
some earth is. Flat shit if he's not on the, top.
Speaker 1: Ten your opponent's gonna be flat when they Play against it's,
goddamn right.
Speaker 2: Freaking BOOKMARK oh i like this.
Speaker 1: Card, too okay this is a five to five. For
three this says looking? Good already how could you? Not
like ractos is a freaking three three or a five
to five?
Speaker 2: For three what set is this one From bro?
Speaker 1: Commander nineteen? Is there?
Speaker 2: It?
Speaker 1: Is okay zancha sleeper agent enters. The battlefield an opponent
of your choice just gains control over or.
Speaker 2: Some shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah zancha attacks each combat if able and attacks
its owner or planes walker and can't attack its owner
or a, planes walker its owner.
Speaker 2: Controls, correct Okay three.
Speaker 1: Zancha's controller loses two life and you draw card Any.
Speaker 2: Blair man so while it does kind of have the
bullshit ractos you do a, little bit it's still. PRETTY
cool i, Like, this yes this took the idea Of
like Corona The false god or we talked About In
red slicer or whatever other slicer Was, from red and
like this is like a this is the VERSION that
i would rather see PLATE because i think that this
is a.
Speaker 1: Fun card this is a fun card, because yeah you
can just dump extra mana. Into it you don't have
to worry. ABOUT it i think it goes right alongside
threatn effects so you can. Regain control so, it's like,
you Know if i'm playing This and smitty gets It
and smitty, hits you and then it's, MY turn i
steal It from smitty WITH a threatn effect until end.
Speaker 2: Of TURN but i put like a frickin', well yeah
BUT also i could put what's the mech suit where
it can't be sacrificed and it gets assault suit, ASSAULT
suit i put as salt suit on.
Speaker 1: It and then everybody gets it during a, different TURN.
Speaker 2: And i hit you with It because smitty already hits you.
With it NOW when i hit you with it with
an assault suit, on, it like it hits you. For
nine so now you've. Taken fourteen yeahan's. PRETTY cool. I
like And then smitty gets it back and he hits
you and. You die zancha.
Speaker 1: Is cool and this is another ONE that i have very,
deeply contemplated just, to THINK can i give my opponents extra?
Speaker 2: Combat STEPS?
Speaker 1: Can i and now not, in ractose but now there's
cards that. Gift TURNS can i gift? A turn and
that's like a pseudo way to give an extra combat, to, Somebody,
Right like i've thought a lot about. This Card and
zancha's a character from The planes walker NOVEL that i.
Really like remember when magic novels.
Speaker 2: Were, good yes this is one.
Speaker 1: Of, them yeah she's. A sleeper well she was.
Speaker 2: A newt grevin was from there. As WELL grevin i
think Was. FROM wrath i thought that he was also
From when magic, was good though he was also the,
same book but he was when the novels.
Speaker 1: Were good he was like he was also from when
the novels.
Speaker 2: Were good that he Was like ball wraths like second.
In command he's like got that. Tortured, squeeze yeah he's a.
Bad guy he was a real piece of bad guyana
good guy even though She. Was frerexian sancha's heart Went into. Karn,
gross yeah.
Speaker 1: And then, carn's heart Which was sancha's which had like
oil in It, from, ferrexia tainted mirrored and fucked it.
Speaker 2: All up so you're telling Me that zancher ruined everything.
Speaker 1: For, everybody no That was za because he Like kidnapped
zancha Out, of yeah, Sort of i'm, generalizing greatly but
generally it's It's all. Ursu's, sweet yeah. Like everything he's
the protagonist but also the. Bad guy he also which,
is weird which is unique. And good, Yeah, right.
Speaker 2: Yes that is. Very cool you don't see that very
often where the hero is both the hero and the
cause of all of his. Own problems don't see that all.
The time but also not.
Speaker 1: The, villain yeah Because the farecians very clearly are the
villainy you Except for sancho because she's a frection but
very obviously a.
Speaker 2: Good guy but not all of everything. Is everything not
all of everything.
Speaker 1: Is, something yes she falls in love with a guy
and tries To convince erza that this is. His, brother
yeah it's it's, fucked up Is. It, meshre no it's
some guy Named like ratteep.
Speaker 2: Or, something well you shouldn't have tried to convince him
that he was his brother when he wasn't. His brother,
and listen just be yourself, Out, There, okay yeah don't
be there if. You're trying if you're trying to be,
somebody else that's somebody else is gonna suck way more than.
Actual you and that's. Real life don't let anybody ever tell.
You different THERE'S a ceco life lesson. For you there.
You Go chan er sets this One from. Commander ninety
you're damn right. HE is i, PLAY this i, play,
this this you? Play. This yeah this Card so Chain
Or nightmare adept is a three to four human minion
four rac dose and two discard. A card you may
cast it that a creature card from. Your graveyard this turn,
activate this but only wants to, turn, yes sure. SURE
whatever a non token creencher enters the battlefield under. Your
control if you didn't cast it from, your hand it
gains haste until your. Next turn SO if i cast
stuff for.
Speaker 1: My graveyard it gains, Haste CORRECT and i can discard
a card to cast something from my graveyard wants?
Speaker 2: Per?
Speaker 1: Turn CORRECT can i discard the CREATURE that i want?
Speaker 2: To? Cast yes hell. Yeah brother the ONLY thing i
don't like about this card is that it's not a.
Spell shaper why would be a, spell shaver because that's
what spell. Shapers do you discard a card to turn
it into the spell that.
Speaker 1: You want, oh, yeah no THIS is i.
Speaker 2: Know that it's not the, same effect but like he
should be that because you take a card in your
hand and you turn it Into the atolley that's in.
Your graveyard that's what this. Card says discard, a card
pay red, red four Take the Atolle primal storm from,
your graveyard put it, into play and attack. With it
that's what.
Speaker 1: It, says yes word word of a. Couple things TWO
things i, always, said right.
Speaker 2: Two things. Two things when.
Speaker 1: You discard a card Like, blight steel that's a. Replacement
effect it doesn't go into. Your graveyard it gets shuffled into.
Speaker 2: Your. Library correct you Could.
Speaker 1: Discard Ulamah or coslic one, point zero and that is
a triggered ability that will trigger and shuffle your entire
graveyard into. Your library you would need something that allows
you to cast your creatures at.
Speaker 2: Flash. Speed, correct, yes okay so just.
Speaker 1: You can't you can't just discard an ulamag and, then,
Think oh i'm just gonna. Cast it it'll be it'll
be shuffled in by the time you try to.
Speaker 2: Cast it correct and then also your graveyard, has gone
so you've you non bow yourself so hard that everybody
will and should laugh. At.
Speaker 1: You, yes yes that, BEING said i like, this card
And like Zancha, AND grevin i have thought deeply about playing. This,
card yes Especially because chaner one point zero was black
black black minions get plus three and like you can
get shipp back from your river like. He's good he's
a good card before, This, card yeah and he's. Better
now he's better now because you give.
Speaker 2: Shit. Haste, yes well so the first time we're talking
about a pseudo haste nabler like one that actually, does
it and.
Speaker 1: Here's one didn't cast it from. Your hand it, gains
HASTE so i could chaos STRAW like i could exile
the top card of. My library if it's, a creature
can cast it until then it, turn yes that. Gains,
haste yeah that's that's a little hidden. Extra, lift yeah
that's a little nip tuck. Right there he works.
Speaker 2: Really well with like the red style of Drawing A
jessica's will or something. Like that, what if dude taste
like he's a very?
Speaker 1: Good card WHAT if i cast something from an, opponent's
graveyard because there's cards that.
Speaker 2: Do that let me ask, you this did that card
come from? Your hand no? Gains, haste, yes yes that's
a little bit fewer and.
Speaker 1: FAR between i can't guarantee that my opponent is going to,
have SOMETHING but i want to cast that's better than
all of the SHIP that i very definitely want to
cast in my.
Speaker 2: Own deck but, This, guy yeah he's freaking. Cool man he's.
VERY good i like. HIM lots i don't since he's.
BEEN released i Don't think i've had a suite of
decks that doesn't have a chainer in. It somewhere, OH
yeah i really Like. This carl so you're telling me
and my copy just. Moves, around well he's not a
he's not a general of. Any sort where should my
copy go into a red black deck that has creatures?
In it it's. Pretty, good yeah, Good advice yeah. Good,
yeah okay any red black deck that has creatures involved
in the game that you could possibly cast we have come.
Speaker 1: Into play we might be getting close to. The, TOP
hey i think someone Produce sa gary can give us
a Top what's chainer?
Speaker 2: Number three we look, at that. The three he's on the,
ball Too. Thinks gary so the three from twenty nineteen
all in a row going into the, top.
Speaker 1: Three bang bang top Three. With chainer he's the number
one guy from that year.
Speaker 2: So far he. Deserves it he's done some. Good work
he's done.
Speaker 1: Good, work okay number two of then number one salesman
is fucking thick daddy six', six, for, red. Red black
black what a Satisfying, looking, manacost yes right.
Speaker 2: Who do we know that's? Played this deck ride? You
me correct you are the one.
Speaker 1: PLAID this deck i have. Played this deck you, Can't
cast Ractose Lord Of, Big dumb idiots that's what my,
deck was called unless your opponent lost.
Speaker 2: Life this, TURN oh gee i wonder how you're going
to Do. THAT in ractose. I don't know it's not
like the first six commanders we talked about. Could do
that flying trample. Doll flample creature spells you cast costs one.
Less to cast that's like my favorite combination of. Words
in magic it's very good.
Speaker 1: For each one life if your opponents have lost this turn. And,
It's cumulative YES so if i tap my thing and
it says each opponent, loses, one life yes my opponents
cumulatively have.
Speaker 2: Lost.
Speaker 1: Three life CORRECT so if i have something that costs,
black black three now it just.
Speaker 2: Costs. Black. Black yeah yeah what if you, play flame
rift then do four damage to each of your. Opponents
and yourself but in this case you have your opponents
four and four and.
Speaker 1: Four is twelve so what.
Speaker 2: If the creature was say in uhlamog? It costs eleven
how much does, It cost? Now ryan zero fuck you
get you get? A? Mana, back yeah yeah it. Refunds
a man, it's so cheap refunds a man, OF holy
shit i have cast.
Speaker 1: An ulamag one i've cast a couslic who costs twelve
off of. A flame rift, by the way there you go, on, turn, four,
YEP yep yeah i cast like a fucking diddy, on
turn two, tap thing, ractose turn three flame rift. Causlic
draw four.
Speaker 2: This is a.
Speaker 1: Good ass card this is? This card man or.
Speaker 2: Will he be in the top? Ten of, NOW oh
yeah i think His. Name. Is, raptose.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah he snorts crack right out of a.
Speaker 2: Dead hooker's belly but he snorts a crack out. Of,
a crack, yes this guy. Word of caution we made him.
Speaker 1: Sound really good the Boys Over At legendary creature podcast
quote me, frequently, to say oh you Can Be like
cecio ryan and say you draw the big half. Of,
your deck, yes oh well if my opening hand has,
an eight drop, a ten drop, a twelve drop, a
four drop like a two drop that does, damage to
everybody no, Manna oh right or you could have the
perfect suite of big guys to go like five man
of six mana eight man of ten mana yep and,
Land land land, but no, PingER no creature no raging.
Gob know nothing you're never going to. Cast your commander, that's,
The truth right and what good is a six to
six flying, trampler damage doer cost reducer for four if,
you can't play if you, can't, Even plan right so
it's really a balancing act or a juggling act of
how many of each thing do you want and how
much do you want to take off the top end
power level to make for consistent. Rac doose casting and
also he's a very. Effective lightning rod, people, are like
well hold on a second response, to flame rift doom,
blade your guy, not doom blade but, terminate your guy
swords to plow. Shares, your guy yeah so you're, gonna
do twelve but you're not going to have. Your commander
anymore and, then, you're, like ah fuck gotta wait, two
turns right and then all of a sudden you're on
turn four or six or seven, and your eight eight
or ten ten is not that big. Of. A, thing
red yeah so, when it goes. It goes right.
Speaker 2: When, it don't go. It, Don't Go Yeah like.
Speaker 1: Jeff, beezels rocket ship it kind of works the, Same,
way as yeah we could blast off the space or
we could just blast or it could.
Speaker 2: Just, blast off.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's yeah so what do you think number one
of them then is?
Speaker 2: GOING to be I have a d in my head
ONLY because when I, WENT to E dh and, M
last night i think somebody Played. It, prediction angie HMMM
that's who i think.
Speaker 1: IT'S gonna be i had to drink my, pile of
bones space cadet ipa there, For A minute angie, Falcon
wrath boom yeah.
Speaker 2: There, it, is yeah. Yeah, got HER yeah and i
wouldn't have GUESSED that had I. Not, been yeah yeah
It's one three vampire with haste for ractose, in one
tap discard a. Card draw card we, call.
Speaker 1: That rummaging yep whenever you discard a card if, it
had madness, which it did because you'll put every madness
car in. Your deck untapper this allows you to discard
cards with madness and rip. Through your deck and there's
a couple accepted builds where you're actively trying to cast the,
card with madness which is a really hard. SENTENCE to
say i just, figured, that OUT yep or. I heard
that there's other ones where you don't give a shit about.
The madness cards you just want to play a commander
deck with like fifty, cards in it because you rip
through your deck and you're looking for a combo piece
and everything that isn't a madness card is a combo
piece or A tutor Because red AND black and.
Speaker 2: I remember when this. Card was SPOILED you and i,
on the show and you're, talking about yeah defined. THAT
exact deck i remember, that super, well FUCK man.
Speaker 1: And i love one of my Favorite parts About commander
cook out over the years is theory crafting.
Speaker 2: Bullshit.
Speaker 1: Like that right i've never, Built, THAT deck no i know,
people WHO have and i know people who, have played it.
PLAYED against it i know that that's the facto way that.
People play this i've played against a Player Who The
Angie Anya falcon wrath madness deck was his first deck
ever and didn't even understand why or how to take.
Advantage of it he just wanted to, discard and draw,
discard and draw, discard and draw like, welcome, To, magic,
right like yeah drawn cards is. The best part and
he didn't know that when he discarded A zero cost
madness card he could cast it and then he Could
untap his angie and. Do it again he just thought
he had to leave it, in, His graveyard right so
he just. Didn't get it but it's this way to,
play this deck and it's like this prolific card and
it's quite famous and the.
Speaker 2: Deck is good it.
Speaker 1: Kind of Reminds me Of Marilyn the morn song And eighty,
seven swamps right kind of Reminds me of ashling In.
Ninety nine mountains it kind of Reminds Me Of World Gorgeer.
Dragon animate dead.
Speaker 2: And, it's funny though like that's that's a that's. A,
ractose combo yes, it has ractos just doesn't give a.
SHIP fuck life i hate. It.
Speaker 1: All right yeah kind of reminds me Of Playing bullus
is citadel because you're gonna lose, on your turn so
you're just paying life to dig, for an answer and again.
FEELS very ractose i DON'T care if i DIG down
until I die because i'm. Gonna die, anyways and this
this kind of, feels LIKE that which, i super.
Speaker 2: Appreciate makes me feel like a. Milling, myself too yeah
let's go On, to now ryan that's The.
Speaker 1: That's, the dens, yeah let's uh let's do. A quick
recap we've got to. Do, a recap okay.
Speaker 2: Do the recap we'll. Do.
Speaker 1: The recap Okay we've got scorpion, got, At ten yeah,
Grenzo at nine, judith At eight file, Smasher at seven,
Logus at six, grevin, at, Five yeah yeah, zancha, At
four yeah, chainer, At three yeah, ractos at Two and anyr.
Speaker 2: Falconrath at, ONE of.
Speaker 1: Course i like to play with and against and appreciate much.
Speaker 2: Of. That, LIST cool yeah i THINK that.
Speaker 1: Those, i, THOUGHT also yes i think those ten cards
have enriched my magic experience, over the years. Which IS
important like i think a couple, Of Weeks, AGO grand
arbiter i think that's detracted.
Speaker 2: From people's experience.
Speaker 1: It's ENRICHED mine but i think it's detracted FROM other People's,
I can yeah i think a lot of those that
we just saw have enriched.
Speaker 2: Other, people's also. YEAH that's cool i can. Concur, with
that okay there's, no oh smash. BUTTHOLES of now i
tried to get the sides of the mask a little
closer together that times that they looked like they were
that you knew what it was supposed to, be at, least, you,
know like yeah that kind of looks like it kind
of looks like.
Speaker 1: Two, rubber gloves yeah kind of giving you one of
these and then then, if.
Speaker 2: You look he got. You get, punched oh yeah, maybe
you know you'd see if you're, watching on YouTube which. You, should, be,
yeah yeah okay watching you describe my drawings is kind
of like when we used To get get brando to
describe The art on magic cards with all my glasses
on the.
Speaker 1: Shout Out to commander cook on the old man good
times number ten of now universes, beyond or, no, uh,
no No, okay no ractose He's Backed the Raose.
Speaker 2: Lord of, riots? Is there yes back doors back dose,
nicely dis yeah.
Speaker 1: Big back dose he's still a six. Six flying trampler
it's gonna beat the ship out of you with his.
Speaker 2: Old bordered serialized.
Speaker 1: Frame swing in his fricking side that's actually just made
out of. Fire and lightning do you think when they
Do the inevitable gunden Wing, crossover secret layer That will
be Gundam, death, sythe yeah.
Speaker 2: Brother but, you've seen. That haven't you you don't even.
Know that one i've.
Speaker 1: Gunned some wing, there you go, there you, go, All
right sick i've that's the right way to si, verb,
that Yeah okay.
Speaker 2: Bom Nick's. Captive king ben THIS guy's, a cdh? Guy?
Speaker 1: Is, He, yes oh nate, Don't. At me toby he's
a four. To three, demon, that's demon Yes but in
spanish rac dose in, two flying tramples he's a four.
To three flampler whenever one or more opponents each lose.
Exactly one life what a plus one counter On ob
nix excel the top card of YOUR library until i,
have to turn you may.
Speaker 2: Play that card so. Play that card You. Can play.
Speaker 1: Land that's cool need exactly. ONE life matters i guess
you can Play this With Pirohemia.
Speaker 2: Or pasti lens Or any other is that what? People
are doing it could be how are people losing exactly ONE.
Speaker 1: Life in cedh what's what's the thing that's making?
Speaker 2: Them do that? LAND more elf i guess.
Speaker 1: Can't, be, that, no no there's got to be like
a card. That does that that's like just this guy's
taking advantage.
Speaker 2: OF that card, i don't know lose. One life layer
what is the card? That's doing. That, raging goblin.
Speaker 1: No it's it's got to BE like and i know it,
isn't this card but it Could Be like Ancient tomb
Or city of brass Or like a shockland makes. YOU
take two i know all of those are Two except
For city Of.
Speaker 2: Ass and Brass, but Pain. Lands, pain lands yeah there's
a card in MY brain that i think GETS, played
IN cdh but i can't make the name of. It
come out and there could be just cards a, Deal,
one right no that's PROBABLY not A cdh card. I
was thinking I Was. Thinking starpaedian avenger it's a goblin
for two. That punishes, treasure oh uh treasure sacking because it.
Does one damage never an artifact goes to your opponent's graveyard.
Does damaged them so every time they, stack a treasure
they take one and he gets bigger and you draw card,
that maybe no maybe it's, probably NOT it but. I,
don't know no you know who else this? Would work?
With This? Guy? Fucking, jaws jaws yeah but you know
what you would do, In That, case cotton Black. Just.
Speaker 1: PLAY jaws oh i, was, gonna say uh you know
what you do? In that case not play it because you,
don't own it because you can't buy secret layers because
scalpers buy them all and sell them for nine hundred.
Speaker 2: Dollars on, eBay, well said yeah. Well said fuckers did?
You see that the PROF? Went full ceo did? You?
See it yeah he must have. Been, taking notes yeah
he probably was because he, Watches The. Show hi brian
and then so he went on and, He, was like
hey if, YOU'RE a scalper i want you to. Listen
to this fuck you and, he was right but like we,
said it better well. Just, more often, yeah that's true.
JUST more often i don't know we.
Speaker 1: Say anything better this is number, eight nine nine that,
was number nine number. Eight, coming up yes of the
now Universes beyond maybe.
Speaker 2: Oh. There he Is that Is, Shadow the hedgehog Shadow.
Speaker 1: The hedge god This is. A, hedgehog mercenary definitely definitely
relevant creatures if you're playing magic in nineteen ninety nine,
during masks block is this guy? MASKS block LIMITED I
think i i think you. Could search him he's a
mercenary with converted.
Speaker 2: Mana. Cost four, yeah the four, by the way is black,
black red red Just. Like, rack daddy yeah.
Speaker 1: Haste Four two Whenever shadow the hedgehog or another creature
You control With flash or haste. Dies, DRAW card sure i.
DON'T hate that i Want to play. Flashers. And, hasters
okay also chaos control is his ability, Jerk, off word
sure his lord. Jerk offf word each spell you cast
has split second if mana from an artifact was spent,
to cast.
Speaker 2: It that means nothing can go on the stack on
top of it, until it's resolved except, for morph creatures
which don't.
Speaker 1: Use, the stack Yeah can split second go on Top?
Speaker 2: Of?
Speaker 1: Split, second no no you just can't add things to
the stack correct until.
Speaker 2: That spell. Resolves, that's right yes that's. A cool, card it's,
neat BUT like don't. I don't know i don't think
that deck would be super interesting to flash the flash
in haste dies? Draw?
Speaker 1: Card cool sure is there is there a way to
loop this guy to just die and get him back
immediately and draw my whole?
Speaker 2: Library in? Black no Way What Does world?
Speaker 1: Gorgeer dragon do it exiles Everything when? It, etb's RIGHT
yeah So I Can't world gorgeer dragon with this guy
in play to draw my? Whole deck correct as if
there's no way to? Fucking do that YOU know what,
I Can. Do fyrexian rager i'd also have to pay.
Speaker 2: Life, hate life yeah life, Is the worst but then
We're not using Shadow of. The HEDGEHOG anymore and. I don't.
Know he's Fine Come about.
Speaker 1: World gorge Of Dragon and frexian Rager and my Shadow of.
Speaker 2: The HEDGEHOG deck maybe i think that this is one,
of those Cards, much like sonic where you build the
deck to like do the thing that it says. On,
the card yes and. The deck. Sucks oh.
Speaker 1: Uh, two things one he Is. Much like, sonic second thing.
Probably you're, right yeah hmmm so let's just go on to.
Speaker 2: The next one all the webs, can, be like gone.
It's so. Cool, he's wait second, your slow mos eat,
a chili dog and. SHIP your pants i don't need
a chili dog to. Ship My, pants h yeah that
you're calling a. Spade a spade.
Speaker 1: How often are we going to see universes beyond now
that we're like eight episodes deep, into this arc are
we going to see universes beyond a that are just? Fans?
Speaker 2: Service shilling yes or are we going to see and, or,
and okay okay and or.
Speaker 1: Are we going to just see abilities that are unique
for this sake of making unique abilities that?
Speaker 2: Aren't? Very good yes this, guy to ractos lord. Of,
fuck you yeah he's not very good. Compared to, them you're.
HIM damn whatever, i don't, care BUT yes he's, i don't.
Know he's. Fine fuck him next card that. Was Number
eight probably gary went. To get pizzas now we have no.
Way of knowing let's, just keep.
Speaker 1: Going damn it the infamous famous. Cruel cruel claw This.
Is from bloomborough so this is the universe is beyond.
Speaker 2: Three three for three with, menas another mercenary this, time a,
weasel another rodent another rodent mercenary whenever he deals combat damage.
To a player what is this? Coming to you exile
cards from the top of our library until we exile a.
Not land card we can cast that card by discarding
a card rather than. PAYING its manecost i can see why. This,
is good oh this is kind that? You know what
this Is just, the ractose Deck Like the Ractos. Lord
of riots this this is, the same.
Speaker 1: Deck except to cost three, instead of four and we
don't have to deal damage.
Speaker 2: To, kill somebody yeah you just have to get them.
With cREL claw get them.
Speaker 1: With cREL claw cast. Something, FOR free yeah i. Don't
hate that, it's got menace so you're. Gonna, get stuff
yeah you're gonna get a search for it with all
of Your mercenaries from. Marcadian masks. Limited that's true so
that's good as if it wasn't in. Your command zone
but if somebody tucks it and you didn't want to
put it, in the zone.
Speaker 2: Because you can find it again because of. All your
mercenaries it's. A, good strat yeah. It's good strat it's
a good way. Around command tax sure, it's a weasel
which is super relevant problem by the time this, episode
goes out. It, probably is yeah it's probably like. Six,
hundred weasel like we get a, weasel, every episode Almost,
don't we yeah man every, Set, like cats yeah, cats
and weasels baby. Cats And.
Speaker 1: WEASELS m ah.
Speaker 2: I don't know like you can see how this deck
is what this. Deck would do, you'd go in you, get,
a thing yeah and you have a bunch of big
fucking man of stuff and you discard your big man of,
stuff to it and the rest of your deck is
land because you. Only, Need, three yeah like this is
one of THE few decks i can say you probably
you could probably just skip sol ring in it if your. Deck.
Speaker 1: IS built right i love decks that we Can, Skip
sol right i'm running two decks where the hen gotta
be there two decks that don't. Have sol ring how
many decks you got?
Speaker 2: To do? That sol ring also? To which two uh
necro moon? Doesn't have one and what's, my, other, dirty
stinky rotten. Fucking, combo deck.
Speaker 1: Well you're thinking let us know. In the comments which
decks do you have that Don't. PLAY soul ring.
Speaker 2: I can't remember i. Honestly don't remember the other, one
is right know that there's two that don't.
Speaker 1: Have Sol rings my animar deck Could have sol, ring
in IT but.
Speaker 2: But i DON'T.
Speaker 1: Very definitely I would Play man of crypt. In, that
deck yeah because not spending any man oa to get two.
Speaker 2: Is, definitely better.
Speaker 1: YES definitely better i don't give a shit, about, TAKING
three correct. I, hate life yes we're taking three fifty.
Of the, Time oh fuck i'll take three hundred percent.
Speaker 2: OF the time I also Play Man, of vault. Yeah
fuck it yeah.
Speaker 1: That suckers tapping For three and i'm.
Speaker 2: Never UNTAPPING it. YEAH i have. I don't know i
have One time Untapped man of. ALL just once i did.
It one time what are you?
Speaker 1: Bad?
Speaker 2: AT magic no i just? Had, So much man what do?
YOU love life i just don't want to live? Else?
To do right what do you want? To? Live, forever
WELL no but i want to live longer than you
with this guy Here, he already. Yeah that's true it's
hard to catch. Up to me let's see the next Card.
Speaker 1: INFAMOUS cruel claw i remember that being a card that
people said.
Speaker 2: That, they, liked yeah okay. We're sweat wet we're sweating
like wetty, fucking magic sweaty like fucking mad nerds that
are just. Whores, in church, yeah next card give the
scaled scorech didn't you? Play? This CARD no but.
Speaker 1: I liked it It's, another bloomborough yes bang bang three.
Speaker 2: To two for two lizard mercenary ward pay two life,
because of. Course fucking mercenary other creatures you control enter
with an additional plus one plus one counter on them
for each opponent, who lost life. This turn neat whenever
you cast, a lizard spell it deals one damage. To
target opponents there's the arbitrary ractose deal one damage to
something when you, do a thing and then it also
has deal damage. To a player make your. SHITTY guys
bigger i love making my shitty GUYS bigger because i love.
Playing shitty GUYS. YEAH a b i love that this.
Speaker 1: Card's a mercenary can we search for it with any
cards That are? In, marcadian masks yes it's a, two
drop though can?
Speaker 2: We? Do, that oh yeah that you can't. Guarantee.
Speaker 1: You can yeah also sort of aristocratsy.
Speaker 2: Deal's, one damage well if you, play lizard spells you're.
Not doing that that second ability. Is only there it's
only there because it's a ractose card and by default
they have to include that kind of ability somewhere on
the card or they have to change what. Color, IT
is no i think it's.
Speaker 1: A lizard deck that's, an aristocrat deck so you can
take advantage of both in the command zone OR infinite
MAN a play GeV infinite times, like cast?
Speaker 2: Him, sack him well he doesn't count. For, himself, though
sorry man whenever you can't fuck? Is, the cast. Yeah,
damn it yeah it's gotta BE lizards that i can infinite? Cast?
Isn't There uh the viceino sand scouts and stuff because
they bounce back.
Speaker 1: To, your hand okay this is real time. Baby scry
fall YOU know what I Do With GeV advanced search
dragons approach typeline dragons aren't lizards even though they are lizard.
Dragons are worms commander color. Black red search how do
you think there are eighty? Two eighty two would you
take the over or under on eighty two to say
that THERE'S less if i, say you're wrong OR more
if i.
Speaker 2: SAY you're wrong i would probably. Go with more you.
Speaker 1: Would be correct there's one hundred. And, seven lizards closer
one hundred. And seven lizards oh some of them are or.
Speaker 2: A silver.
Speaker 1: Boarder that's, Bellshit, all right well well two.
Speaker 2: Of them are.
Speaker 1: You're still right there's probably enough lizards to make.
Speaker 2: A lizard deck they, probably, all suck though. Let's, be
honest yeah and that's why he, makes them bigger because
your deck sucks because you're playing. A LIZARD deck could
i nobody's playing? A LIZARD deck.
Speaker 1: Could i just bullus has said them all into playing, fuck.
Speaker 2: You up just like. Any. Other, deck yeah Yeah.
Speaker 1: Then it's bolus, is SIT itel not GeV doing all.
Speaker 2: The heavy.
Speaker 1: Work that's right i'm sure there's lizards That we would
oh and one Of Them, is LIZARD blade which.
Speaker 2: I guess could. Be a lizard it is, technically A
lizard and i. MEAN you could I would say GeV goblins.
Would be, good oh yeah just people have anything, Would
be fine like this is. A fine card there's Nothing Wrong.
Speaker 1: With rampant Crawl or. Another Marcadian masks lizard mercenary one
one for one can't be. Blocked by, walls oh shit
put them in your deck that's going to. Come into
place we're we're not. Playing lizard deck we're. Playing mercenary,
deck you guys it's.
Speaker 2: On page.
Speaker 1: One ascribe all that's some good ship right. There on
ship what's?
Speaker 2: The? Next?
Speaker 1: Card ryan next you don't you want to keep talking
in theory? Crafting, This, GUY no.
Speaker 2: NO i don't i. Really Don't. Game there's Judith This.
Speaker 1: IS newdith nudeth i wish wouldn't have said that three
four For.
Speaker 2: Five human shaman whenever you cast an instant or, sor
story spell choose one that spell against death touch. And,
life link yes or you create a two to two
red imp Creature token with when this, creature eats shit
it deals two damage. To each opponent so there's the arbitrary,
rack dose ability and then the other one gives you
death touch and lifelink on your lightning BOLTS and your
lavi darts and your gut punches and. All that, shit
yeah ah it turns burn spells into kill spells.
Speaker 1: And life gain how much damage would you take to
be Able To? Become judith's imp how much damage?
Speaker 2: Would you take how MUCH life? Do i have forty thirty,
eight thirty, eight thirty. Three, thirty, seven wait, NO hang
on i have to survive myself. Dying thirty seven then if,
another EAT shit then i still get, to, be like
yeah but if you eat shit, first OR whatever then.
I Don't care but i'd RATHER have the i have
to have. The maximum odds.
Speaker 1: Judith, carnage connoisseur yeah you want to, connoisseur, some carnage
correct you want to partake in carnage mostly.
Speaker 2: Getting stepped on they'd call me the lord. Of the riot,
In that case i'd, be very good lord of the fucking.
Getting stepped On that's what. I'd call you it's. A
burn deck, it's just hey the call The, spade of
spain and that's a great that's a great kind of.
Deck to play but it's.
Speaker 1: A burn deck the more, opportunity WE have and i
know you'll, AGREE with me i will beat the drum
of the Burn deck. In, Commander forever yes because for
the first ten years That, we played commander it was we.
Can't do this burn is no. Good to burn everybody's.
Got forty life you. Can't do it you. Can't Do
it lightning. Bolt's no good remember when lightning bolt Was. Bad,
in commander. Yes like it bolt's pretty fucking good now
because it's basically words to plowshares because everybody's playing one
and two and three toughness creatures that. Lightning, bolt, gets.
Speaker 2: Yep right we're.
Speaker 1: GETTING them again i Know that lightning bolt and swords
to blow shares don't do, the same thing and. Swords
is BETTER but if i don't give a fuck if
it's in Your graveyard because i'm gonna kill you and
it has three, or Less, toughness lightning. Bolt that, Cocksucker Yeah,
right and judith she's given me the ability to play
that card in a, burn STYLE shell and i appreciate
that lightning.
Speaker 2: Bolt fucking anything it's gonna die and. YOU'LL game three
i wonder what the year.
Speaker 1: Was when, people when that when, that scale tipped when, people,
finally said oh there's enough on this side of the
teeter totter to tip. It this way We can Play
BURN decks AMMONKET l Drain l DRAIN warhammer Forty K.
Speaker 2: With. GYRISON starn no I think that i. SAY el
drain i Think when To ralph not ralph. UH tour
brand i Think when tour brand came out that was
when the needles started moving and they started. Pushing for
it that's not like the, first BEST one but i
think it was the first one that. Was an indicator
you don't You don't.
Speaker 1: Think you don't think it was get red mana equal to.
Damaged delt guy you don't Think It was Ractose lord. Of, Riots,
guy no no that's a.
Speaker 2: Big creature, decks not really that's a and the get
mana equal to the Thing was. Extra combats guy oh
nehab was an, infinite combat guy not a. Burn, deck
guy yeah that's that's.
Speaker 1: Kind of cool that would be cool to look back throughout, history,
to say hey when did the when did it tip
to to say we like burn deecks are viable.
Speaker 2: In the comments when do you think burn decks became Violet, Us.
Speaker 1: Fricking no maybe we'll, Do an episode maybe we'll. Get
mac attack you guys can do A burn uh. Commander
history fun i'd be, Pretty, freaking sweet judith stop stepping. On,
our wieners. No next card.
Speaker 2: Don't everybody saw this? Guy coming right. Everybody knew it
he's one four for four death touch at the beginning
of YOUR end step x of the top card of
your library and to end your next door and you
can play it whenever you play a card from anywhere
other than your Hand. Or, from excel sorry make treasure. That,
last part yeah that last. Part, really good yeah.
Speaker 1: If you only ever play one drops from, not your
hand you're only ever going to perpetually play one drops from.
Speaker 2: Not, your hand yeah this.
Speaker 1: Guy's Freaking good that prosper Is an Exit.
Speaker 2: Chris van doom remember The. Old chrispon doom he had
a Very very. Stout prosper deck.
Speaker 1: There's a couple prosper decks kicking around our local metaphor a.
Speaker 2: Good, Long while YEAH prosper's a i wouldn't say he's he,
was a problem but He was a he was a
deck that you were going to run into that you
had to be on your. Game to.
Speaker 1: Beat, it's REAL yeah and i want, to say, back you, know, three,
four five six however long he's been. Out four years
he was infringing on the personal space, of competitive play
and he. Was, very good yes at the beginning of,
your end step exil the top card of your library until.
End of turn you may your next turn you. Could
play that so if you exil like a terminate or any,
instant speed thing you can, Still play it so it's
basically drawing an extra.
Speaker 2: Card per turn and if.
Speaker 1: You played it or anything, else you've exiled you can.
Just create mana like what if everything you Played had
a lotus pedal? Attached to It people play lotus pedal, just,
By itself right so if everything that you want to
put in your deck That's better than lotus pedal Gives
you a lotus pedal that, counts for artifact counts FOR,
artifact et b, counts for sacrificing and more, importantly than
anything gives you mana.
Speaker 2: To. Keep doing it that if you can, something from
exile you just get, to replace it. So, it's free
yeah so.
Speaker 1: Things that you cast from exile just, Become, free partentially
yeah fuck This card rips. Prosper very good You Ever
built prosper nope played? Against them, though oh, yeah oh yeah.
Oh yeah lots this guy fucked some ship Up t
fling warlock STRAIGHT out OF. D. And, D baby yeah
i don't even know what. THOSE words mean.
Speaker 2: A couple of people did say that we should be
counting dungeons and dragons as the, universe Is beyond, but
i'm not and We're, not gonna yeah it's. It's too
close it's owned by, the same company and it fit
perfectly into the fucking esthetic and everything nobody Complained about
The dungeons, and dragon set and then they use in
terms of the license, being used.
Speaker 1: Exactly and then they Used magic In, dungeons and dragons further. Solidifying,
Your point yes, And since then warlock has become like
a bad guy kind of term outlaw for a, cowboy, hat,
set correct right cowboy hats so like. IT'S fully integrated
i don't think we're gonna see web slinging in A
in a commander product Or in A magic the gathering universes, within.
Speaker 2: Set, Right correct yeah i'll bet you We'll see fucking
warlocks and wizards and.
Speaker 1: Fear flings and.
Speaker 2: Delayed. BLAST fireball yeah i love cascading Into That car
deadpool universe be. On number two there's a fucking universe
is beyond card and everybody. Hates this guy this is
one of THE first CARDS i think i can ever
think of that's universally beyond hated by everybody except for
the guys. That, PLAY it, Yes, i did okay except
for the guys. That play it this is and even
they will. Eventually hate it check That, creature, type yo mercenary?
Where's the? Originality watsie jesus so. He's going on he's
a five to. Three for four when he, comes into
play you may exchange his text box with another, creature's.
Speaker 1: Text box okay which is that's, that's not outlandish that's kind.
Speaker 2: Of like cloning so he takes a creature that you
want and does, whatever it does and then gives that creature.
The following abilities.
Speaker 1: The, FOLLOWING abilities now i will implore you. To, remember.
Zancha yes okay.
Speaker 2: At the beginning of your upkeep. Lose, three life okay so,
YOU gained that i got your. Best guy three. Sacrifice
this bro each other player. Draws a card so you
get my. OLD knaw bone i get a SHITTY creature
that i don't like and eventually will.
Speaker 1: Probably, sacrifice it yes and a bunch of people are
gonna draw.
Speaker 2: Cards. And SHIT yeah once i get tired of beaning
you with a, flying Seven seven then. I'll sack it he.
Sacrifice this creature each other player. Draws. A card ah
one of the most hilarious And miserable games. I've ever played. Was,
Sink GUY okay jered Confarti played his deadpool deck directly,
into MY clones and i. FUCKING got. HIM i love
i deadpooled him so hard that he could not be.
Deadpooled any harder you, Made, him dead yes. IN the
pool i basically drowned him in the Pool of the
saskatoon in which is where we were playing. At magic, festasts,
oh yeah. Good yeah good oh there's. A pool there
he was a face up. Floater man like. It was
crazy but this card is awful. To play against. It's
fucking awful.
Speaker 1: I've never actually played. Against This card that's that's The first.
Thing i'll say The second thing I'LL SAY is i
i hear. WHAT you're saying i. Don't see it i'm
interested to see. What happens here i'll tell.
Speaker 2: You what Happens, you play deadpool you steal the best
text box from a car. On, the table yeah then
you do Something, to make deadpool leave play, and come
back and you. Do it again Then you make deadpool
le plan to do it again and again and again,
and again again and then all of the creatures are just,
like take three you're doing. The, ractose thing oh all.
Speaker 1: Creatures, just get that because you could sack, and, play
him yeah because, it's like them or bounce.
Speaker 2: Him, or whatever exactly it's not while. He's in. Play,
It's permanent.
Speaker 1: YES so if i played, a, ERRATIC portal yeah i
could bounce him and.
Speaker 2: Play.
Speaker 1: Them AGAIN yeah or i could exile him and play. Them,
for free yeah and then all the creatures. On the
battlefield have? You lose three you could sacrifice this the
Guy who's playing, Deadpool, among others yeah.
Speaker 2: Draw card, CORRECT oh.
Speaker 1: See i didn't, Think of that and that's what most
of that's usually THE shit that i.
Speaker 2: Fucking, think of yeah and that's what most of The decks,
that i've seen, AND by most i mean all Decks
that play deadpool do Some of the there's actually one
Guy In the local matter that Used to, play oh
No it's not deadpool deck and then, it, fucking was
ah because, it always is because there's why else are?
You doing this if you're not, gonna do that there's
virtually no point.
Speaker 1: In playing this he and let ME see if i,
get this right has the mutants superpowers of a bunch? Of?
Speaker 2: Different?
Speaker 1: Mutants, right no, no just? One, just one no that
was that was.
Speaker 2: In the movie oh that was. In the movie that's
where Where they Be. He, Was pool yeah deadpool is
like a really Extreme. Version.
Speaker 1: Of, wolverine yes yeah you could like kill him down
to one fucking cell and he'll Regenerate into.
Speaker 2: A deadpool again he can cut his arms off and
he can just like reattach him and ship. AND he's,
FUNNY i like I can appreciate, deadpool AS character but
i don't appreciate him ashi. As a card if, you're playing,
it That's fine but. I'm not interested? Is your deck?
Is that deck and sorry built it in the car on? The? Way,
over ye no. You're not nice get. Drug, Combo bro.
Speaker 1: Okay well that's the second universe, is beyond two and
we've got to be Getting.
Speaker 2: Close to let's. Just keep, going let's see.
Speaker 1: Let's, keep going.
Speaker 2: Poja, There's. Another one poja this.
Speaker 1: Is final, fantasy h, yep got there saw the nine
behind her. In, the art okay this is a. Human
mutant wizard so she could Go in your deadpool deck and.
Be a mutant that's true for ractose in, two three
four at the beginning of, your end step create a
tapped Zero One black wizard Creature token with whenever you
cast a, non creature spell this token deals one damage.
To each opponent if you control four or More, wizards
transform kuja do you have?
Speaker 2: THE other.
Speaker 1: Side i do the other side transforms into. Trance trans
cuja does it transform from a dude to a girl
or a girl.
Speaker 2: To a dude, he's a dude and then he transforms into. A, furrier.
Speaker 1: Dude oh transform Into a SUPER saiyan four.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know avatar. Wizard four six if a wizard
you control would deal damage to a, permanent or player
it deals.
Speaker 2: Double.
Speaker 1: That, damage yeah okay so we get a bunch of
black wizards that all deal damage when.
Speaker 2: We.
Speaker 1: Cast spells yep could we just cast continuous spells forever and?
Speaker 2: Deal?
Speaker 1: Damage forever yeah and then also, when they flip we
just deal, double damage.
Speaker 2: Forever. DOUBLE infinite yeah i feel like the backside is
almost redundant on THE card because, i think, So you
know i'd almost rather kind of. Not have it the
backside is, a, win more yes because double damage is
while could druple damage and quintuple damage is kind. Of
win more, while it helps it is sort. Of win
more you don't need to double damagers and like that we're.
Already dealing damage do we need to? DEAL double damage.
Speaker 1: I will Say that if I'M attacking and i have
a finite number of damage all coming by, way OF wizards,
if i flip now all of my, wizards is attack,
damage is doubled which.
Speaker 2: Is including him so he goes from a four to
six to an eight six when, he deals damage.
Speaker 1: A three four to an eight six, when he attacks
and that makes him a three, hit chump yep.
Speaker 2: Which is cool and he makes blockers and he counts
for his. Own ability, yep so like this is kind
of an interesting. Deck to build i've seen a. Few
of them OH back when i Was, PLAYING on arena
i did play Against lots, of cuja decks and there's
somebody locally that plays, it as WELL and it's, i
will say it didn't tune it all, the way up.
But it's fun it's fun. To play. Against it's fun.
Speaker 1: Let's jump in the way back machine and go back
to like two. Thousand and seven. Oh, my GOD okay
when i played a, deck like this this card wouldn't be,
a wizard no so it would need wizards in the
deck or else it wouldn't facilitate, its, Own, textbox right
okay so, from THAT standpoint and i don't have any
examples to, Substantiate That claim like i'm, Not being scientific
i'm just saying This is how commander used to be.
As a feeling now, as a feeling, it's a wizard
so it can it can do. Its own thing it's.
Speaker 2: A wizard that makes you could play zero Wizards in
your kuja deck and have still facilitates its own ship because. It,
makes wizards.
Speaker 1: Yeah and, for that reason it feels. Power creep adjacent
it's traveling down a parallel Street that power creep. Is
traveling down even though this doesn't feel super powerful because
it's rained in.
Speaker 2: That you get one, creature per turn.
Speaker 1: Like like IT'S whatever if i Said like Ractose, lord
of riots or this could be in, your commands on
like what do?
Speaker 2: You pick It ractos Ractose? Lord, of riots right although
you could put this guy in there to Facilitate your Ractose.
Lord OF riots oh i. Don't, hate that yeah and
you're play an instantra sorcery and you? Fucking callous rectos.
Speaker 1: Are we going to see a world record? FOURTH universes beyond.
I don't know we'll have to keep.
Speaker 2: Going and see let's see Super, saying for goku what's
the Button ryne Volgaveth.
Speaker 1: Harrower of souls this is The bad valgeve oth that
what happens to.
Speaker 2: Be, pretty good yeah it's the it's the worst.
Speaker 1: Of the two that just goes to show you how
Good the. Other, valga is right this is Four Four
elder demon highlander ractose two flying ward pay two life
because why not whenever an opponent loses life for the first,
time each turn, like their turns each. Of, their, turns
yeah okay put a plus one Counter on valgaeve oth and.
DRAW card neat i. Don't hate this we just make
our opponents lose life. On their turn this feels, like
ractose light, make them lose make them lose on their
turn once with a PingER or, with a pirohemia with a,
man of barbes with a whenever you.
Speaker 2: Untap they have to he's. A fetch land he's a. Fetch,
land land yeah that's A city of brass or any
of the ones that say when creature enters. About a.
Speaker 1: Field take two you could do All of, the norn
tricks like when you. Cast a creature you take impact tremmors.
Will let shit oh you put nor in the wary
and impact trummers. In this deck in this deck because whenever,
anybody does anything orn'll come back at the end to turn.
And get them and then you. Draw, a card yep
that's draw four every round.
Speaker 2: Of the table. It's pretty good it's a. PRETTY good.
Speaker 1: Time i checked and also when it comes back, to
your turn he's a seven. To, seven yeah oh then
he's a.
Speaker 2: Ten to ten then he's a.
Speaker 1: Two pump chump so you could go around and like
hit somebody a few times and then all of a
sudden it's like.
Speaker 2: Hit you once. You're. Gonna. Die yeah yeah and he's
four and he's. Hard. To kill yeah and he's. A face,
commander oh cool they want. To target him pay two life, fuck,
draw card right? This, is okay yeah or pay two
life well just because also i'd. Rock card, yep uh
oops it's. A good card this. IS very good i
like the. PICTURE on it i. Like This one big.
Ben plays this yes he? Does, fuck him yeah? Fuck
that guy. Nice, find him well we didn't SHOW, UP
to E dh and, m last night even though he
said he, was, gonna so Okay we were what? Was
he doing didn't want to go to the coachman license?
Beverage your ma why hav't been there in. A long
time everybody's excited, to See, me said ben because. He wasn't,
THERE oh wow. I wasn't there, You know there i'm
also not excited, to.
Speaker 1: See you okay recap of the Nows Number ten Ractose
lord Of, big fat asses, Neat Ob, Next captive Kingpin
sure Eight Shadow the, Hedgehogs Get Seven infamous CRUEL Claw
Six GeV Scaled scorch five judith step on my wiener
until it's A, flat Bookmark, yeah four sure Prosper, tomb
Bound yeah three Deadpool Ah two kaja.
Speaker 2: Cuja and then the other side Of the other cuja was.
VAL of one i think it would? We do it is? There?
Another card? No that's? It holy shit this? MAN? Who?
Knew i yeah.
Speaker 1: There isn't more than three universes beyond in.
Speaker 2: The top ten are we ever going to break? THREE
universes beyond. I hope not do you?
Speaker 1: Think we are and it was not a universes beyond in,
The top slot. That's the truth it was very much
a magic, one in fact here is from a unique
plane that, only happened once and we're probably never going to.
Speaker 2: Go, back there correct we had like the villain. Of,
that set yes, that's the thing that's the.
Speaker 1: FREAKING bad guy i will ask you this about the now,
of these ten.
Speaker 2: Who do you think is? The most powerful.
Speaker 1: Because in a general, commander bracket three, bracket four setting
we're gonna leave bracket one and two out because because
and bracket five is a. Different, thing altogether, YEAH and
uh I want to i want to know who who
do we think is? The most powerful is it a
universe is beyond card that despite being the number one
or having the most, lists or not who's?
Speaker 2: THE most powerful i would toss It up Between cuja And.
JUDITH myself judith I, think That judith like, judas learnage
connoisseur facilitated a really interesting deck that, could be very very. Difficult.
TO kill cool, i LIKE that and i liked he
was THE one THAT i said i HAD it And
i Lost cuja and cuja because, That's it again it's
a card that just fucking facilitates itself and kind of
does the Same thing that, judith is doing but in.
A different way where you can just play things that
just kind of cycle through and ramp and drawn ramp
and drawn ramp and drawn. Ramp and drawn while you're doing,
ramping and drawing you're, killing your opponents and you're killing them.
More every turn you're doing it like. You play him
then the next turn you're killing them, a little bit
and then the next turn you're killing them. A little
moreful i, Don't think so but in the deck, THAT
he's in i think that he does a lot more work,
than you think because he's killing people on an. Axis
that's different he's not setting up then killing you. With
his setup he's just he's. Always setting up You Don't think.
Prosper prosper's fine you can Certainly miss with prosper because
a lot of The cards in prosper decks kind Of
suck without prosper until you get to the big combo Pieces, Till,
you prosper yeah Until you become probably who do you
think is? The most Powerful.
Speaker 1: YOU say Prosper i think prosper is very consistent and it's.
Speaker 2: Hard to miss.
Speaker 1: It's, hard to miss and. Consistency is power That's true
because i'm, never gonna miss which never makes me feel
and it never makes my opponents Feel as though.
Speaker 2: I'm low powered the baseline of.
Speaker 1: Prosper is high the top End, Horsepower that Ractose lord
of riots gives you is. Next fucking, level oh yeah
but but, but you can like your opponents can.
Speaker 2: Figure that out The floor of ractose is like you just.
Don't play matgic the floor Is getting your wiener Stepped. On,
by judith no That's not the oh. That's the, ceiling
that's yeah that's like, the third floor which is. The, top, Floor.
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which guild. IS fucking Next.
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reaction it might Not. HAVE been celesnia i might. Have,
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