Speaker 1: On the drive on a Tuesday, Scott, Happy Tuesday, buddy.
Speaker 1: How are we doing?
Speaker 2: Oh? I could not be better. Right now. It's a
Speaker 2: beautiful fall day. I'm sitting on a golf course at
Speaker 2: the south end of the Salt Lake Valley taking a
Speaker 2: break chat with you.
Speaker 1: There you go. I was going to ask you where
Speaker 1: you're at, because I've learned it could be a myriad
Speaker 1: of different things, so I'm just gonna follow up. Where
Speaker 1: are you golf?
Speaker 2: From?
Speaker 1: Which track you're playing today?
Speaker 2: We're South Mountain. I'm with my youngest son, Zach. We're
Speaker 2: having a good time.
Speaker 1: Oh, good for you, Good for you. Well, I don't
Speaker 1: want to take out too much of your time, so
Speaker 1: let's get to it all the time you need. I
Speaker 1: appreciate it. What are you seeing as somebody who played
Speaker 1: quarterback at the highest level of this young backup quarterback
Speaker 1: who for now appears like he might be the starter?
Speaker 1: And tell Cam's ready, what stands out most about Isaac's
Speaker 1: gross Scott.
Speaker 2: Well, he's started two games and they won both of them,
Speaker 2: and that's the number one thing. He hasn't really done
Speaker 2: anything that is going to kill the team. That first
Speaker 2: interception was almost like a long punt, you know he
Speaker 2: did have and then he had the one interception going
Speaker 2: in in the red zone and that down the road
Speaker 2: could hurt you. But did a lot of really good
Speaker 2: things and didn't just didn't give up the big, big,
Speaker 2: big mistake that killed the game. But made a lot
Speaker 2: of plays both throwing and running where you know, he
Speaker 2: extended drives, he got the team in scoring because it
Speaker 2: just I mean, this dude's a freshman and he's playing
Speaker 2: on the road against a Rake team Oklahoma Stake, great atmosphere,
Speaker 2: tough place to play, and it didn't really seem to
Speaker 2: bother much.
Speaker 1: So what's the Scott Mitchell take on this? Because if
Speaker 1: I'm hearing from people in the community, I'm sure you
Speaker 1: are too. And Scott, the bottom line is, and you
Speaker 1: know this, you were a pro. The money changes things.
Speaker 1: It just does. When you start to make more money,
Speaker 1: it even changes it even more. People expect you to
Speaker 1: show up for work when you're making the kind of
Speaker 1: money that professional athletes make. And whether it's season ticket
Speaker 1: holders or boosters or alumni who are continued to add,
Speaker 1: you know, to be asked to donate more. I mean,
Speaker 1: there are programs around college football at the University of
Speaker 1: Tennessee that have announced a ten percent ticket increase in
Speaker 1: order to keep up with the nil stuff. And I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be stunned if that's more commonplace and when if
Speaker 1: the reports are true, Scott the Cameron Rising is being
Speaker 1: paid seven figures to play quarterback at the University of Utah.
Speaker 1: It just changes the way people talk about his lack
Speaker 1: of availability. Now. For me, I just believe he's hurt
Speaker 1: and when he's ready, we'll see him. But I know
Speaker 1: that people across the community are kind of approaching this
Speaker 1: with a general feel of here we go again. What's
Speaker 1: your take on all this?
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a lot, Yes it is, Yes it is.
Speaker 2: But there's a lot to it though, And money does
Speaker 2: funny things to everybody. And you know, I think when
Speaker 2: I was in college and one hundred dollars, you know,
Speaker 2: I was I thought I was a rich man if
Speaker 2: I got one hundred dollars. And when I first got
Speaker 2: into the pros, you know, you you see all these
Speaker 2: guys making all this money, and you're, you know, you're
Speaker 2: you're making you know a little bit more than the minimum,
Speaker 2: and you're like, I want to be them. So you're
Speaker 2: very hungry. And then you have guys who they never
Speaker 2: care about the money, like it's it's about their legacy,
Speaker 2: and they're there a lot of times. There's the guys
Speaker 2: that the Peyton Mannings and Tom Brady's you know, Tom
Speaker 2: Brady took pay cut basically to be the best player ever.
Speaker 2: So they're those guys. And then they're guys that are like,
Speaker 2: show me the money, pay me the money, and they're
Speaker 2: motivated by that. And it's not a bad thing because
Speaker 2: guys do a lot of good things to get paid.
Speaker 2: But you see, I mean, look at what happened in
Speaker 2: the NFL. Tua got paid, Trevor Lawrence got paid. They're
Speaker 2: talking about these guys, you know, toa may never play again.
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence hasn't played well all year. Dak Prescott just
Speaker 2: got paid. I don't know how good he's played this year.
Speaker 2: So it's it's hard. You know, we're human and money
Speaker 2: does funny things, both directions, and I can't imagine what
Speaker 2: it's like as a college kid, you know, making you know,
Speaker 2: like like you said, a lot of money every year.
Speaker 2: But knowing Cam, he's competitive, like he wants he wants to,
Speaker 2: you know, go out and play, and and and if
Speaker 2: and if he's healthy, he's he's a massive help to
Speaker 2: this team, I mean a massive help. So I don't
Speaker 2: think it's a question. I really agree with you. The
Speaker 2: problem is, you know, you don't you don't have the
Speaker 2: you're you're right about people, I'm paying money for this.
Speaker 2: You know, it seems like there should be some kind
Speaker 2: of clause in there, and and and I think there's
Speaker 2: some thing. Negotiate all different kinds of terms with nil money.
Speaker 2: You know, you don't just get it all at one time.
Speaker 2: Maybe there's an injury clause, and maybe there should be
Speaker 2: because you're not going to have people donate. You're not
Speaker 2: gonna have people contribute if they're not getting a return
Speaker 2: their money. And it's not just a Utah thing, it's
Speaker 2: it's a thing across the board. But the reality is
Speaker 2: the more Zach Wilson plays, the better he's going to play.
Speaker 2: You're still going to have things to learn with him,
Speaker 2: but you've proven in probably one of the tougher places
Speaker 2: to play, he's shown that he can win. So it
Speaker 2: makes it a little bit more palatable if Cam can't go.
Speaker 1: Do you think two part question, do you think college
Speaker 1: teams and coaches should be mandated to report injury statuses
Speaker 1: before the weekend ahead like they do in the pros
Speaker 1: and attendant to the question, do you think we're high
Speaker 1: speed ahead to that reality based off of how much
Speaker 1: money is at stake for people as a result of
Speaker 1: information such as who is your starting quarterback? Because everybody
Speaker 1: can gamble on sports now, you.
Speaker 2: Know, it's fascinating. I'm not a gambler, but the whole
Speaker 2: thing fascinates me. The line kept changing like crazy, even
Speaker 2: during like game day, right, I mean it was like,
Speaker 2: uh and and I think people were getting information and
Speaker 2: they they they tend to find information. You know. However,
Speaker 2: wherever the NFL is very much in bed with gambling,
Speaker 2: college football probably will be it some time and they
Speaker 2: and you know, and they'll be they'll have the same
Speaker 2: kind of arms length. You know, they're going to get
Speaker 2: paid for every bet that's placed, not not for outcomes
Speaker 2: or or you know, performance. But that's what the NFL does.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you want to try to continue to
Speaker 2: pay all of these players and coaches, you got to
Speaker 2: find new ways and new sources of revenue. So I
Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised that down the road that does that
Speaker 2: does happen. If it does, yeah, then injuries are going
Speaker 2: to become a relevant part of you know, your weekly discussion,
Speaker 2: and and they're going to have all the different you know, likely, questionable,
Speaker 2: out probable kind of designations for guys. I know when
Speaker 2: I played, there was a there was like a Thursday
Speaker 2: that was like, techno, I'm not playing, and then Sunday
Speaker 2: it was like, yeah, I think I can do this.
Speaker 2: You know, so people you know, it's not just there's
Speaker 2: just gamesmanship. I mean some people actually they do change
Speaker 2: and whatever. But but I think it will definitely go
Speaker 2: towards like a like a pro model, you know that.
Speaker 2: I heard today someone I know who it was talking about,
Speaker 2: you know, taking the highest division of college football and
Speaker 2: just taking it totally independent of the NCAA, almost like
Speaker 2: a semi professional league type of thing. And so then
Speaker 2: when you get that, then you can regulate like the money,
Speaker 2: you can regulate when people can go and and become
Speaker 2: a free agent, you can regulate injuries, all those things.
Speaker 2: And it just feels only because college football is not
Speaker 2: amateur athletics. It's a big, huge business. And I think
Speaker 2: once the cat came out of the back, once everyone
Speaker 2: admitted that then this whole almost at breakneck speed, This
Speaker 2: whole thing is going towards a professional model.
Speaker 1: So give us your best guess or maybe you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, we don't see practice, so it's hard to know,
Speaker 1: but you know, coach wit And during his Monday morning
Speaker 1: pressure he said it was literally a game time decision.
Speaker 1: They decided about fifteen to twenty minutes prior to kick
Speaker 1: that it was Isaac and not Cameron. So what does
Speaker 1: that look like, Scott? During the week, Let's just operate
Speaker 1: off the assumption that we're in the same situation that
Speaker 1: they're going to wait until kicktime Saturday night to decide
Speaker 1: who it is under center. Does that do one of
Speaker 1: the other, you know, one of the two options of
Speaker 1: disservice because they don't get as much reps with the
Speaker 1: ones during the week. Do they both get reps with
Speaker 1: the ones during the week? Like, what does it look
Speaker 1: like when you have two options, if we're taking them
Speaker 1: at their word to prepare for a game over the
Speaker 1: weekend during during the week, what does it look in
Speaker 1: kind of feel x Scott?
Speaker 2: So when I played, like practice reps were like so sacred,
Speaker 2: like and you're the starter and you're taking every possible
Speaker 2: rep you can take in every drill, like you know,
Speaker 2: you know that there's a process that you have to
Speaker 2: go through every week to prepare yourself, and you're you're
Speaker 2: so finely tuned, and just the little, the little variance
Speaker 2: just can really throw you off. And for me, that
Speaker 2: glove is a vary instead. I did drive me nuts.
Speaker 2: And I don't know how in a week's time I
Speaker 2: could just throw a glove on and go okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: go out and play at a really high level and
Speaker 2: be really accurate and feel comfortable. I just don't see
Speaker 2: that personally. But aside from that, I want all the
Speaker 2: reps if I'm going to be the guy. And and
Speaker 2: the problem with with what's going on at Utah Isaac Wilson,
Speaker 2: a true freshman needs more than every rep have in practice.
Speaker 2: Cam Rising, who hasn't played and is rusty and is
Speaker 2: trying to figure out if his hand's okay, he needs
Speaker 2: every rep, And it's like everybody needs every rep and
Speaker 2: and to you know, to divide and and decide, you know,
Speaker 2: you know, kind of halfway, you know, listening to coach
Speaker 2: Winningham said, well, Cam took more of the reps earlier
Speaker 2: in the week and Isaac took him more later. It's
Speaker 2: like that just scares me. It's that old adage, you know,
Speaker 2: two quarterbacks you don't have one and and that, and
Speaker 2: it's kind of that scenario, even though both of them
Speaker 2: are a quarterback and are are the guy that you
Speaker 2: you'd want to have out there on the on the field.
Speaker 2: It's just it's almost like you got to go into
Speaker 2: this like or what do we Tuesday? You have to
Speaker 2: go in Monday and just say, are you any significantly
Speaker 2: better than you were on Saturday? Because I watched Cam
Speaker 2: warm up and he did not look good like I was,
Speaker 2: so I was. I was so relieved, honestly Spence when
Speaker 2: he did not start the game, because I go, I
Speaker 2: don't know how he's going to throw the ball. I mean,
Speaker 2: it looks so bad. There was like when coach Whittingham
Speaker 2: said there was no zip on the ball. There was
Speaker 2: no zip on the ball. And I was and I
Speaker 2: was concerned for Cam, you know, because because you know,
Speaker 2: it's it's hard if you can't throw the ball. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's that's really hard. So I just if it was me,
Speaker 2: I would pick a guy early in the in the weekend.
Speaker 2: I go with him, and and Isaac might be the
Speaker 2: better choice only because if he's not playing well and
Speaker 2: you can go to Cam, you know, if he's like, hey,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm feeling pretty good on game day whatever,
Speaker 2: then you always have Cam Risen kind of sitting there
Speaker 2: on the sideline right now as an option. Isaac Wilson's
Speaker 2: is as confident as he's ever been since he's been
Speaker 2: at the University of Utah. He's going to get better
Speaker 2: and better and better. He's the guy that's got the
Speaker 2: most game experience right now, and you might be wise
Speaker 2: just to write that as long as you possibly can.
Speaker 1: This is not equivocally unfair, Scott, But I'm going to
Speaker 1: ask you anyway, based off of fished, off of what
Speaker 1: you saw in person, stillwater of Cameron warming up, give
Speaker 1: me your best guess about whether or not we see
Speaker 1: him on Saturday against Arizona.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't think it's unfair because I'd have to
Speaker 2: see a significant change from last week, like a significant change,
Speaker 2: and maybe maybe it's hey, you know what, maybe we're
Speaker 2: better off we're at home. We're gonna have the electricity
Speaker 2: of the crowd. Night Dark Knight. Isaac's playing playing well,
Speaker 2: the defense is playing well, then then you have a
Speaker 2: bye week and then that's a more maybe sensible and
Speaker 2: reasonable way to kind of see where Cam is. And
Speaker 2: if it was me today, Spence, I would I would
Speaker 2: start Isaac Wilson, I really would.
Speaker 1: Interesting And you know what, and I talked to you
Speaker 1: about this couple of weeks ago, and as you know,
Speaker 1: you played in the pros. You know, most great quarterbacks
Speaker 1: have that outlet, have that comfort, you know, that blanket,
Speaker 1: you know, the guy they feel comfortable going to when
Speaker 1: nothing is there. Does it feel like maybe with Isaac
Speaker 1: that guy is Dorian Singer. I mean we saw a
Speaker 1: nice Dorian Singer game against Okay State. Seven catches, ninety
Speaker 1: five yards.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're starting to see that emerge, you know, and
Speaker 2: it's just because he's getting, you know, opportunities to play.
Speaker 2: I mean, when Utah has eighty plays in a game,
Speaker 2: you can start finding your security blanket in a hurry.
Speaker 2: And Dorian was phenomenal in that game. And he's not
Speaker 2: the only one. Money Parks is a great option. Mackay
Speaker 2: Bernard running the football is a great option. Bran Keithy
Speaker 2: is a great option. Really, pick a tight end is
Speaker 2: a great option. In this in this offense. And that's
Speaker 2: the beautiful thing about Isaac Wilson. He does not have
Speaker 2: to do this by himself. And he's got a great
Speaker 2: defense and he's got great support around him. That offensive
Speaker 2: line is really starting to come to life right now.
Speaker 2: The thing with because you're gonna see a lot of
Speaker 2: good things and then he's gonna run into something he
Speaker 2: hasn't run into. So like last week it was pressure
Speaker 2: in the red zone and he's never felt like blitz
Speaker 2: pressure like that ever in his life. Ever at Corner Canyon.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're just not the same athletes. It's not
Speaker 2: the same speed. And so there were some throws that
Speaker 2: were just off that a veteran savvy quarterback is licking
Speaker 2: his chops and the throat of money parks down the
Speaker 2: middle of the field. That the touchdown. The throw to
Speaker 2: Dori and Singer that got almost intercepted in the end zone,
Speaker 2: that's a touchdown. The pass to bran Keithy is not
Speaker 2: almost tipped. So it's it's really it's just you're gonna
Speaker 2: see good stuff and then you're gonna see moments of growth.
Speaker 2: You know. After the game, he said, oh, there's some
Speaker 2: good things and bad things, and I said, no, there
Speaker 2: were some good things, and there were some learning things.
Speaker 2: You're just learning, kid, You know, these aren't bad things.
Speaker 2: You're just seeing it for the first time. So he's
Speaker 2: going to go through maybe five or six games seeing
Speaker 2: things that maybe he hasn't seen, and then he'll really
Speaker 2: really get dialed into things and and feel really comfortable.
Speaker 2: I think this offense spence could be super explosive, like
Speaker 2: they should be scoring forty points a game. They have
Speaker 2: that much potential and that much talent on that offense.
Speaker 2: It's just getting the right guy under center that can
Speaker 2: deliver and get the ball to the right people.
Speaker 1: Of course, this early in the season, there's still a
Speaker 1: lot of observation, not conclusion, and you want the team
Speaker 1: and the players simply to improve week by week by
Speaker 1: week by week. If I ask you, Scott, with your
Speaker 1: keen quarterback guy, what's the next step in the evolution
Speaker 1: and the growth of Isaac Wilson? What does that look
Speaker 1: and sound like to you?
Speaker 2: It's gonna sound funny, but it's a real thing. I'm
Speaker 2: telling you real thing. It's how do you handle success?
Speaker 2: Like all of a sudden, you start playing really good
Speaker 2: and then you start getting like cocky and feeling like
Speaker 2: you've arrived and you're dead at that moment. It will
Speaker 2: kill you. You will be humbled in a New York minute
Speaker 2: in those situations. And you know, and and Isaac Wilson's
Speaker 2: really feeling it right now, and he should be, but
Speaker 2: he's he's a long way. There's a lot of things
Speaker 2: right now he doesn't even know. He doesn't even know
Speaker 2: that he's going to run into. And so it's it's
Speaker 2: staying hungry, it's staying humble, it's staying focused, it's it's
Speaker 2: staying in the moment. Is really the next step in
Speaker 2: the evolution. So often we don't handle success well like
Speaker 2: we all seem to handle adversity and failure because because
Speaker 2: it's it's embarrassing, it's it's frustrating, It makes us mad,
Speaker 2: makes us more focused. You know, when you're when things
Speaker 2: are going great, you're not sitting here going, oh man,
Speaker 2: I'm so mad at the world. You know, because we're
Speaker 2: like four and oh and ranked top ten in the car.
Speaker 2: You know, it's hard to get mad. And a lot
Speaker 2: of good players, you know, Michael Jordan used to manufacture
Speaker 2: mad and and and a lot of these guys and
Speaker 2: he I mean, I know in my career you just
Speaker 2: never feel comfortable. You just never feel like you've arrived.
Speaker 2: You can't or you'll get you will get run over.
Speaker 2: And it's the biggest challenge I think Isaac will face
Speaker 2: maybe in its whole time at Utah.
Speaker 1: All right, one more question about the Isaac Wilson dynamic,
Speaker 1: and then we'll move on to some other things. With
Speaker 1: a few minutes left, and I'll set you loose. Do
Speaker 1: you have you seen enough to believe? And let's be clear,
Speaker 1: no clue who's going to start Saturday, and no clue
Speaker 1: when Cam We'll be back, and it might be Saturday.
Speaker 1: But again, the community is kind of like, here we
Speaker 1: go again. If it's Isaac, and if they ride with Isaac,
Speaker 1: have you seen enough to believe that they can win
Speaker 1: the Big twelve? If the quarterback all year is Isaac Wilson,
Speaker 1: you know, it's.
Speaker 2: A question of whether he continues to grow. You know,
Speaker 2: people you know you've see in the NFL right now.
Speaker 2: You know, Jaydon Daniels was phenomenal last night on Monday
Speaker 2: Night fotball. I'm unbelievable. But it's it's only two or
Speaker 2: three games in the season. All of a sudden, people
Speaker 2: are going to get four games on this guy, and
Speaker 2: things are going to change in a hurry. They're going
Speaker 2: to start seeing the tendencies and they're going to know
Speaker 2: how to defend him, because right now they don't really
Speaker 2: know because he's just new. And you know, Andy Dalph
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden starts for the for the
Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers and he plays great. You know, well, let's
Speaker 2: see where he is in four weeks, is you know,
Speaker 2: because people will start to dial in and figure out.
Speaker 2: And that's the same thing with with Isaac Wilson. No
Speaker 2: one knows anything about him right now and they're they're
Speaker 2: trying to figure stuff out. And so can he adapt?
Speaker 2: Can he evolve? Can they make the adjustments? Can he
Speaker 2: adjusts as it goes on? And can he handle the pressure?
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll give you a great example. All of
Speaker 2: a sudden, the YU seem to show up, you know,
Speaker 2: down south, and that rivalry game certainly looks a little
Speaker 2: different right now. Although I know that Utah is a
Speaker 2: better team, it's a real rivalry and if BYU has
Speaker 2: confidence and thinks that they're in it, it makes that
Speaker 2: game so much harder and rivalry games are weird and
Speaker 2: they're hard, and so that's something he's going to have
Speaker 2: to deal with. He's going to have to deal with
Speaker 2: playing on the road with a tough a tough opponent
Speaker 2: like maybe a UTHTF toward the end of the year,
Speaker 2: or maybe call Colorado, you know, toward the end of
Speaker 2: the year, and then going into the Big twelve championship game,
Speaker 2: it's sits a different level of pressure and and a
Speaker 2: lot of guys, you know, that first time they go
Speaker 2: through it, yeah it's not so good, you know, And
Speaker 2: then and then maybe the next time they're they're better
Speaker 2: at it. I don't know if he's mature enough to
Speaker 2: handle that. He certainly was mature enough to handle a
Speaker 2: hostile crowd, a Big twelve opponent one, you know that
Speaker 2: it was actually a pretty good upon better than people
Speaker 2: might think. I just think Utah is pretty good. And
Speaker 2: so can he win a Big twelve championship? Yeah? If
Speaker 2: if he if he evolves, and if he matures, and
Speaker 2: if he kind of stays humble.
Speaker 1: So let's move away from the quarterback spot. A couple
Speaker 1: of minutes left here, And I don't want to say
Speaker 1: that I didn't think Mackay Bernard couldn't run between the tackles.
Speaker 1: I just don't know that I've ever seen it very consistently,
Speaker 1: more of like a you know, some AGP Ryan third
Speaker 1: down catch, a pass out of the backfield type, occasional
Speaker 1: stretch handoff type. But are we seeing the evolution of
Speaker 1: Mackay Bernard into a bell cow for Utah? After the
Speaker 1: debate about who the running back will be, and what
Speaker 1: stands out most to you about the way he seems
Speaker 1: to be growing right before our eyes?
Speaker 2: Well, I saw, I saw macar McKay the first game
Speaker 2: of the season, and they were tough yards, and they
Speaker 2: were those inside the tackle runs, and I go, I've
Speaker 2: never seen that from Mackay. And and then and then
Speaker 2: all of a sudden it started to evolve and and
Speaker 2: he got more carries and got more comfortable, even talked
Speaker 2: about I got better vision, you know, after after watching
Speaker 2: uh So, it's a definite departure from the player he
Speaker 2: was he was. He was certainly more of a pass
Speaker 2: catching on the edge type of runner. He wasn't that
Speaker 2: bruising Avion Thomas Jaquindon Jackson even like a Zach Moss
Speaker 2: was was kind of a tough runner. On the inside,
Speaker 2: and he recognized that that if he was going to
Speaker 2: be the everyday down guy, that's what he had to do.
Speaker 2: So he put on some weight and it was and
Speaker 2: it was huge. And not only the weight, but you know,
Speaker 2: I think he got rid of some mental weight, you know,
Speaker 2: where he just you know where he kind of lost
Speaker 2: his fun and desire of football and he found out again.
Speaker 2: And that might be the biggest change in Mackay than
Speaker 2: the physical weight change is just his mental approach to
Speaker 2: everything and his excitement to be around. Coach Whittingham, which
Speaker 2: I thought was insightful, said, you know, he had too
Speaker 2: many carries in the game on Saturday, and he says, look,
Speaker 2: we're in a marathon here, We're not in a sprint.
Speaker 2: I think coach witt knows that he doesn't have a
Speaker 2: lot of guys behind him that maybe, you know, can
Speaker 2: carry that load. So so they've got to protect the carries.
Speaker 2: They've got to keep Mackay fresh. Oh he's being that
Speaker 2: bell cow you know in November.
Speaker 1: All right, Scott, before I set you loose. You know,
Speaker 1: I cannot shake the image of watching Arizona not get
Speaker 1: beat by Case State, get bullied by K State. I mean,
Speaker 1: they got pushed around, and then you watch case State
Speaker 1: essentially not being able to match up the physicality with BYU,
Speaker 1: And this feels like a game that Utah should win
Speaker 1: regardless of who's under center. The line as of now
Speaker 1: is Utah minus eleven. Utah is an eleven point favorite
Speaker 1: as Arizona rolls in for a late kick. But it's
Speaker 1: going to be warm. It's about eight to fifteen mountain time.
Speaker 1: It'll be on ESPN. Of course you can hear it
Speaker 1: with you and you and Ryles on this radio station.
Speaker 1: What's your anxiety level leading into Saturday night and what
Speaker 1: do you think UTAs to do to come away with
Speaker 1: another win to keep the record clean.
Speaker 2: I'm always anxious before games only because of the respect
Speaker 2: I have for football and how any opponent at any
Speaker 2: time can beat you. So for me, it's just ingrained
Speaker 2: in me. Always have that anxiety. And right now I
Speaker 2: don't think we still know who everyone is in this conference.
Speaker 2: It's so hard to tell from the first two non
Speaker 2: conference games, how how good people really are? You know,
Speaker 2: you look at Oklahoma State, I mean they really should
Speaker 2: have lost to Arkansas. Arkansas gave them the game, and
Speaker 2: you know the other two opponents just weren't weren't that good,
Speaker 2: so you know, you just don't really know how good
Speaker 2: they are. You also look at it and go, well,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of good teams in the conference, and
Speaker 2: that means that there's gonna be a lot of competitive games.
Speaker 2: You're going to have a lot of games like BYU
Speaker 2: winning one week and Kansas State winning the next. And
Speaker 2: yet I really think that Utah is at a different
Speaker 2: level than the other teams in the conference from a
Speaker 2: maturity level, from a depth level, from a talent level,
Speaker 2: and that kind of helps them show up every week.
Speaker 2: And not only that, their defense shows up every week.
Speaker 2: So that always always puts you in every game. I mean,
Speaker 2: you have Karni Reid and you have Connor O'Toole out
Speaker 2: two of your best players on defense, and you're not
Speaker 2: really missing a beat. And you're having younger players like
Speaker 2: John ou Hall coming in and these uh at linebacker
Speaker 2: and he's figuring that out. And you have these these
Speaker 2: young talented kids in the secondary making plays, Scoopy Davis
Speaker 2: and you know Smiths Note and Chris Calhoun, and you know,
Speaker 2: so you're I'm not nervous about it, and and the
Speaker 2: and the other thing too, And this is what coach
Speaker 2: Witt loves more than anything. He's pissed. He is so
Speaker 2: pissed that they lost last year. Everyone in that building.
Speaker 2: So they will and he will not let anyone forget it.
Speaker 2: And he will drive that point home more than anything
Speaker 2: in the world. This is a This is a team
Speaker 2: that knows how to win championships. They understand the process
Speaker 2: and the process of showing up and preparing every week.
Speaker 2: So I really think Utah will be ready for this
Speaker 2: game and and I would expect them to win. Well.
Speaker 1: Should be another fun one. Love those late kicks. Gott
Speaker 1: We'll let you get back out on the course, man,
Speaker 1: Thanks for the time, appreciate okay, foh, all right there,
Speaker 1: Scott Mitchell were the best to ever do it at
Speaker 1: the University of Utah. He'll be on the broadcast with
Speaker 1: Bill once again coming up on Saturday Late kick Man
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