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Dogmanencounters dot com forward slash podcast. Hey everyone, thanks so
much for joining us for another livestream episode of Dogman
Encounters Radio. Really appreciate you being here. I hate to
say this, but tonight's guests shouldn't even be here tonight.
The reason why I say that is he was featured
on episode five ninety six, and on that show he
came on and told us about several dog Man Encounters
he had had They shook him up, but nothing like
an encounter that he unfortunately had last night. Because of
the encounter last night and the intensity of it, he's
not doing all that well right now. He's queasy, he's nauseous.
I actually told him we shouldn't even be doing this show,
but he wanted to soldier on. Credit to him. Most
people wouldn't be up for doing that, but yeah, he
deserves a lot of credit for that. And without any
further ado, let's bring him in here now. Tonight's guest
is Patrick Patrick. Thanks so much for coming back.
Speaker 1: Of course, Zake absolutely under.
Speaker 2: The circumstances, like I told you, you shouldn't even be here.
But if you're sure you want to soldier on, we
can definitely do that.
Speaker 1: I've never been one to give up that easy, so
it'll be quite all right, I think.
Speaker 2: Okay. Well, forgets to be too much, please please let
me know. We can always reschedule to finish this up.
But having said that, if you're sure you're okay. For
the people who missed episode five ninety six, please tell
them about yourself.
Speaker 1: Well, my name is Patrick, I'm from I was born
in New York, lived most of my life there, but
I've lived the better half of my life in Texas.
I'm thirty nine, I've got three kids. I've helped raise
a few other kids into productive adults that didn't belong
to either of us. But you know, you don't turn
away any child that needs it, and just been you
know life isn't always the easiest, but you know we're
still making a go of it regardless.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that you are. You really are soldiering on. For
any of you out there listening who were here for
episode five ninety six, is your remember I created a
GoFundMe page for Patrick to help him out of a
tight jam. Well, he was blown away almost as much
as I was by the response. I can't thank you
guys nearly enough for all the help, all of your
contributions to him you've done, You've worked wonders. The last
time I checked the tally, I think it was a
little over two thousand dollars and the goal was seven hundred. So,
like I said, I can't thank you enough for all
the contributions you've made. Thank you so much. I really
appreciate it. And before I ask you for an update
on your current situation there, Patrick, would you like to
see anything about that?
Speaker 1: Of course, first of all, I don't know if I
have the words to express my gratitude. I'm asking for
help has never been easy. I'm sure many people can
relate to that, and I've always been one to you know,
that jumps in and helps others even when I don't
have the resources or whatever. But I always believed in
living my you know, my life is in such a
way as if you see a need, you feel in need.
And I've always been that way, and so I'm more
used to giving a hand than getting receiving the help.
So for everyone who did. I just want to say
thank you for a lot of my heart and I
couldn't there's I couldn't say thank you enough. And that's
what I's honest truth. And thank you guys again. And
I was overwhelmed and overjoyed by all the support and
my kids that were keeping track of it, and you know,
I just want to say thank you all. And if
there's any way I could ever repay it, you know
I will, so I am. I always believe in paying
it forward. So thank you again everyone.
Speaker 2: I told you they're amazing people. They really are. Having
said that, now we've brought everyone up to date on
that with the thank you for their contributions, please bring
us up to speed on how you're doing right now,
what the status of that processes of appealing the eviction.
Speaker 1: Well, so as far as the appeal goes, you know,
we had that that last tuesday to be able to
you know, we did file the appeal, but they want
they want to x amount of money in the registrar
and and and that's and that and that can still
I mean, you can still lose it. And really, all
I was going to do is just buy us a
little extra time to figure out what we're gonna do.
But I spoke to the manager of the property and
on that Tuesday, and uh, he was I showed him
to go fund me and he was, you know, surprised
and taking a back and he was willing to work
with me. I've given them pretty much every dime that's
that's that's in the account, and they're they're willing to
work with me. So I'm just doing what I can
to continue working off what we owe and trying to
keep the roof over our heads. So far, the mortgage
company hasn't. I mean they're calling. I mean they call
every day, but you know they haven't.
Speaker 2: Not to interrupt you, but I'm hearing a loud clicking sound.
Are you doing that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, actually, that's just I didn't mean to do that.
That's just the the ear pod case.
Speaker 2: Okay, please continue.
Speaker 1: But any anyways, Uh, so far, you know they're willing
to work with us, and you know that he's willing
to work with us. I don't know about corporate, but
you know how corporate is the bottom line over people.
But so far, we're hanging in there. And uh it,
as I said to this earlier, it kept us from
having the door slam shut in her face for good.
So there's still a fighting chance and just gotta work
my way back and take ourselves out of this hole.
So again, thank you everyone for your contributions. I really
appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I told you, they're amazing people. They really are.
Just when you lose faith in humanity, something like that
happens to you and it shows you that there are
really good people out there.
Speaker 1: Still I agree. Uh you know, I've never lost faith
in humanity. There's like I said, I sometimes I can
even tend to overextend myself and I'm trying to help others.
But and I've been criticized for trying to help people
and taking in kids that you know, and like fostering
them and doing what I can for others. And uh
you know I've been I said, I've been criticized by
all the other family members and you know, saying O
all the resources. But it's you know, I I say,
no matter what, you'll be okay. And uh, you know,
I can't go past the cry for help, no matter what.
So like I said, if you see a need, fill
a need.
Speaker 2: You're a good man. In the dictionary, next to the
word benevolent. There's a picture of you if I remember right,
didn't you say that you also know people's lawns who
need help with that?
Speaker 1: I sure do. Actually I just did three of them today.
Speaker 2: Wow, you're a good meal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you know it's it also helps keep the
lights on too.
Speaker 2: So well, that's awfully impressive, especially out there in this heat.
Not that easy. Well, unfortunately, Patrick, you had an encounter
just last night. That's what I was referencing when I
was talking about you being so nauseous and queasy. If
you're ready, if you're sure you're gonna be able to
handle it, please tell us what happened. Give a server
last detail that comes to mind.
Speaker 1: You got it? So every so whenever I take my
dogs out again, I take them off the property because
you know, we don't really have much of the yard
around here, and I like to take my take my
dogs a place where they can just run around and
you know, we can have a good walk for like
at least an hour or two. And I do it
twice a day, you know, and we have longer extended
walks at night. So last night, I want to say,
is eleven thirty ish? Your take? It was? I guess
it's kind of earlier and earlier than unusual walks. But uh,
I wasn't. I wasn't about to do it a second
time after this. So I went to where I normally go,
which is where I've had these last two encounters back
in July, and that part on the far side of
this block that that's there's the streets are made and
there's some street lights. And to the left side of
there's a past year there's a cow pasture. And to
the right they've been turning, you know, terraforming, and they
made these you know blocks, whether me putting these houses,
but there's no houses there just yet. There's houses that
are built, about two dozen of them or so in
the surrounding area. But I want I go to the
furthest uh you know, for the spot away from all that,
and that's where I had the two previous encounters. Well
last night there was h a lot of activity. There's
these uh this, these houses that are on this one
back street Troy Road. There's several houses back there back
up to these uh I guess these small woods and
backs right up against where they're building these new homes
and uh, you know dogs, you know, these always usually,
you know, go nuts back there. And last night, I mean,
I can hear the Kylodies are out and I haven't
I haven't heard them in a while. And it sounds
like there's a little bit of some fighting, and it
even sounded like there's some squealing, Like it sounds to
me like almost as if there's like a pup getting
tore up. And oh, this has taking place about oh
maybe five to six hundred yards east of where we're
walking around, maybe maybe, I mean, yeah, that sounds about
that sounds about right. And I can hear them going off.
And now normally, you know, when I pull up, uh
you know at night or wherever I always sit and
listen for a bit, it depends, like you know, I
can just to just to feel out the energy of
the surrounding area. You can kind of get a feel for,
like you know, the animals in the area, or not
not even just animals, but like I said, you can
get an overall feeling the vibe of the general area.
And you know, it's something that's like a sense of
whether it or not, like you feel like it's a
good good, good good spot to go or if I
need to move on to someplace else. And I mean
it felt kind of eerie from beginning, and but you know,
it wasn't too bad. I had I had my night
vision scope charged up and uh my flashlight. I mean,
it wasn't that great, but the night vision scope helps.
And and when I was out there, I was of
course on scanning the horizon and just just to see
if I can see any activity. Sometimes I can pick
up a colty way off out there, or bobcats. We've
got plenty of those in our area. And that there's
really nothing that They're pretty sure that most of most
of the whatever's going on is back there with these dogs.
And but there's also this other strange noise that I
can't quite put my finger on. And I swear I've
been thinking that it's some type of strange bird the
way it sounds, but I I really don't know what
it is. And I've heard them, you know, multiple nights.
Sometimes it's just one, sometimes it's two, sometimes even three.
But last night it was just one of them. Now
where I park. You know, it's they said it's basically
two you know, like a large block I guess of
just basically grass before before they you know, start putting
foundations and all that, these big houses and stuff, and
there's there's a street light at each corner, and so
we're it's got it's a little it's a bit raised
up and probably about fifteen feet from like the bottom
street there, and and uh so we're walking along there
and I always do the thing we normally like, I
like to walk all the way across the subdivision that
they're building and just see a good walk in with
the dogs. And by the time we get back to
the car there, you know, they're pretty tuck it out
and the nap for a good, you know, a good
long time after they you know, drink you know, some
water and they pass out. But you know, I said,
sometimes I just you know, you get the feeling where
maybe that's not such the greatest idea. So I let
them do the thing in the area where we're at.
They we stayed right around the car within you know,
within one hundred yards or less of the of the car,
and I have them, I get them loaded back up,
and so we're about out there for maybe twenty five
thirty minutes. They said, it's usually a bit shorter than
what then what the walks don't normally go for but
it was just had this anxious feeling. Now the cow
past year, I can see that there's more stakes in
the ground, and they've been doing a lot more terror
for me in the surrounding area, which is, like I said,
it's kind of sad to see them knocking down all
this beautiful grassland and they're turning into these houses. But
you know, that's progress for you. But uh so, now
where our first Okay, so went back up. I get
the dogs in the car, and I get in the
car and you know, the windows would roll down and stuff,
and I was just listening to dogs panting. But I said,
it felt kind of strange the whole time. And so
I got back out of the car and I just
decided I felt like just looking around again and checking
the area. And I walked over to where I had
seen that very first gray one in this uh this
it's it's at the bottom street there and there's this
broken like you know, broken stone path and uh, manicured
grass and then there's kind of like wild grassland beyond
that and a small creek area and some trees. Like
I said, this area was a cow pasture before you know,
these houses were being put up and they're still keeping
some of it, I guess, at least for now, and
they're developing it in parcels. And so there's a street
light in this one section that's probably about three fifty
yards away. But so when he first pointed this this
new subdivision, when you pull in from the roundabout, there's
houses on your right hand side and a couple of streets,
and then there's just a turn off on your left
hand side and it dead ends. It goes maybe like
eighty ninety yards and dead ends right there, and it
looks very nice. We've got a very nice light there
and a little cobblestone path with a with a bench,
and they have like these little looks like a thing
where you can put like books and stuff in where
people donate books or whatever. And now I said, right
there after it cuts off, it goes into the grassland again,
and there's a bunch of trees and there's acres probably
like I don't know, maybe a hundred acres or so,
I'm not really sure. At least another hundred acres that
go beyond that. I know it goes for at least
almost a quarter to maybe a half mile of nothing
but grassland. In that in that direction, and so so
keep that in mind. So there's a that turnoff, and
then there's a spot with that light where it dead ends.
And now I'm further on past that. I'm about three
hundred three hundred yards away, and I'm standing in the
this uh, darker area that's in between these trees where
I saw the first, very first dog man and as
far as the dogman goes the activities, and you know,
I guess quiet. And I've been going there still, like
pretty much every day because this is what we're used
to and it's a good place to let the dollars
run around. And you know, I'm I'm not really a
big fan of walking around with a leash, So I'll
walk around and I scan the tree line and and
I look across this field and this uh and I
look look past the creek, and I look all across
this field and it kind of rises up a little
bit and I can see where that light is from
that dead end area and this So the previous encounters
I've had, yeah, I mean, especially that first one was
really freaky. I mean you see this massive eight nine
beasts come out and just kind of sit there and
look at you, you know, from the creek bottom. I
mean that one was more terrifying than the other two.
Like I said, the ones in July I had was
I saw a gray one in this creek area in
the dark, kind of like behind some brush. And then
there was a big white one that was sitting out
near the exit, uh my turn off the street to
go up to exit the subdivision, and it was laying
there kind of lazily. So so far, you know, the
encounters had work relatively passive, you know, benign, like I said,
but this this one, this one, it scared the crap
out of me. So I'm looking through the night vision
scope three hundred yards away in that area where the
where the where the light is at, and I can
see it looks like a very large coyote. And I
can kind of see it like popping up a little bit,
like on two feet, but not raising up completely. And
like I've heard so many other encounters before where I say,
a hunter has a dog man in their scope or
something in their scope, cryptid that something that they're unfamiliar with,
and then this thing snaps her head and turns and
looks at them and like almost looks at them through
the scope looks like it's looking right there dead in
their eyes. Well, that's what this one does. And I
guess if you stare something long enough, you know, whatever
you're looking at, it's going to know that you're looking
at it, and it turns at tension towards me. Now,
if it was just something I observed from a distance, great,
but it wasn't like that. And this is where like
the reason I feel sick and this nauseous feeling because
I've been thinking about this all day, Like I've had
these constant dumps of adrenaline to my system to where
like you know, where you can feel it in your body,
like almost want to stiffen up. And my back's been
injured lately, and I like almost the point where like
it feels that my back wants to stiffen up again,
like I can feel it. And uh that like this
was been having this, I got me in this nervous state.
So I'm looking at this and it had the markings
I would say kind of similar to a coyote as well,
but I was maybe four or five times bigger, give
or take. And I said it was popping up and
it stopped, and then it was looking off to its
left into the grass area, and it snapped its head
towards my direction and it started running towards me on
first on not on not on two legs, but not
on four legs either. It was running towards my direction
on three legs. I can see that it's one of
its back legs. It was. I don't know if it's
lame or what injured. I'm not sure, but I can
tell it was running on the two front legs and
one of the back legs, and it was moving quickly.
And at that point, like that's where like all that
that just that shock. It was like a like there's
a lightning zaps right through your body. And my skelton
had jumped out of my skin and took off running,
and I had I was stuck for a second. Then
I had to go catch up with my with the
rest of myself, like my soul had just jumped and
took off. And that was absolutely terrifying. I now the
car was only like thirty feet forty feet behind me,
and you know, I'd like to drop my windows down
at night. All my windows were down. I can tell
the dogs were like they were onto something like they
were they were like looking around, and I can tell
they were anxious. But I mean, I got in my car,
and my car was already running. It's a hybrid, so
you don't you don't even hear it if it's just
sitting there in idol, And I just pushed the gas
and I took off. Normally, I just I just let it,
you know, reverse back, and I reversed down that little
slope and then I'll all pull forward and go. But
I took straight forward, and I saw through the back window.
I actually even put my head out out the window
and looked back as well. And so this thing clearly
had come screaming hauling across. But the way, the way
it ran, that's what really freaks me out more than
anything is because it was it was like its back
was all humped, like hunched, like like you know, like
when a cat it's trying to get big and intimidating
and like to another animal, like another dog or another cat,
where its back kind of goes up into this arch.
It was running like that, and and its head was
low and his back was arched. You see its hair,
you know, his hair was like flared out, and it
was it was tearing off across the field my direction,
and it as I had pushed pressed on the gas
and started going. It only took me maybe a second
or two to get it into the car and the
person gas and start going. And by the time I've
done that, and when I look back in my rear
view mirror, this thing was already at that point where
I was just standing right there at the edge of
the darkness, just just uh. It didn't cross into the
to the manicured you know fresh you know the green
grass it's been planted, and and that crushed stone, you
know path there, It didn't cross over into into that.
It literally it didn't. It didn't come into the light,
but it was right there at the edge, and it
was just just like like if lukes could kill, like
this thing was just drilling, boring a hole into into
my soul or something. It was. I don't know what
was worse. The way that it stood there staring at me,
and like by at that point it popped up on
two feet and so I like with its mouth was
slightly a gape, like it was kind of panting, But
just the way that it ran it was so freaky.
And I don't know if that was because if something's
wrong with its leg or what. But I had never
seen something like run like that. And that was boy,
I'm telling you, like that right there, it was like
an absolute shock to the system. And again like it was,
it had basically like the cowdy color my markings to it.
And I don't think it was the one, the great
one that I'd seen before. I'm pretty sure this one
was different. And again, all this takes place with these
the big power lines that just run for miles. And
as we know, anyone who's listened to you know, big
you know Sasquatch and dog man stories, like a lot
of these these areas where these power lines stretch and
go for miles are kind of like a not just
you know, it's basically a highway for anything you know,
that's out there in the wild to kind of like
have an unencumbered, you know, path through to other areas.
And it's literally like right in the midst of all that.
And and now, mind you where I'm sitting right now
in my backyard. I mean, my fence is right here
in front of me, which there's some plenty of slaps
that are missing because it's an old fence, but it's
all this from where I'm sitting. After the way that the
crow flies is maybe maybe less than a mile. Those
those multiple dogman encounters all took place less than a mile,
except for the very first one that was maybe like
three and a half miles from where I'm at. But yeah,
and that was I mean, I'm telling you, my bones
jumped right out of my skin and took off without me.
I had to catch up, and seeing it standing at
the end, but just the way it ran just really
freaks me out. And again, it just reminds me of
the way a cat kind of bows up to get
big and intimidating. And but it ran all the way
across the field like that, like at least for a
few seconds. I started, I saw it coming towards my direction.
After it looked at me, and then I tore off,
But it was started running off towards my direction that
way with and I said, one of the back foot
feet weren't touching the ground, like it wouldn't swing its leg.
I don't know something broken or what, but it looked
at me as if I'm the one who had named it,
which I mean I'm not, But who knows what they
how they think I don't know, but that one's scared
the daylights out of me. I really couldn't sleep which
last line at all. It's been you know, it's been
on my mind all day long. I've got to take
the dogs out, and I don't. I don't want to
go back there. I know that they're gonna be tearing
that whole pasture down where, you know, I don't really
want to go back there until, like until after that
whole area has been bulldozed, which I hate seeing trees
and nature being torn down to, you know, for progress
to these homes. Like I like progress, you know, because
where I come from New York, there's so little development there,
so you have the beautiful nature. But at the same time,
there's no middle ground of progress. So all these old
towns will you know, eventually die, you know, whither away
because there's nothing there because you know, all these people
are very much against main development. So I like development,
but you know, I really like nature too, especially when
I can take my animals out there and my kids
and enjoy it. And plus there's got to be a
home for all these animals that live out here, you know,
And and that's being strict away. But honestly, like I'm
good with not even going. I'll be good until the
whole forest is you know, nothing, but you know, just
just piles, you know, dirt that's been just flattened out
for houses like that scared the crap out. I mean,
I'm sure that'll change eventually, you know, I won't even
be that long, but right now, it's still very fresh,
and I want nothing to do with it. And that's
scared the daylights out of me. I mean, I said,
I've had every time I think about I'm just getting
these dump I can feel it in my system, you know,
that spike of adrenaline and then all that kind of
like you feel flush in it, you know, just dumps.
So then you feel just kind of drained and uh,
kind of stiff. And I've been feeling that all day.
And I was gonna talk to my son about it,
but because I talked to my kids about everything, but
I really felt like that probably, I mean, that probably
wouldn't be a good idea. I you know, I don't
want to fill their heads with image of these things.
And you know, again, last night, after I've gotten home,
you know, it's like three o'clock in the morning and
you know, I'm going outside of the back patio and
I just listened, and which you know I do often.
You know, sometimes possibles come through sometimes. Now I just
want to make sure that no coyoties or Bobcat comes
through my back fence there to you know, harm anyone's animals,
because it's happened before. But I heard something walking around
back there like it, but it never shows itself. Now again,
it could be just possums and so it could be
all you know, me just freaking out from previous. But
some thing at some point eventually did come up onto
my back of course because I had this this tarp
kind of like blocking the sunlight, like I set up
on my back of course there so that way it
was covered and and you know, I know the sun
eventually makes the tar is kind of brittle. But something
had climbed up and looked like it was trying to
go to my roof. And there's actually a couple of
let's see, I'm looking at it right now, there's a
couple of chairs from looks like where feet had went into.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so there's like there's like two initial and then
there's another couple, uh, look like it's something had tried
climbing up and going up the tarp to time maybe
I thought it was more of a stable roof, but
it was pulled pretty tight.
Speaker 1: Because I got it screwed and screwed in the side
of the house and it comes off at an angle,
and it looked like something tried climbing up that and
it actually tore through the carp there and it obviously
didn't make it sor as far as I know, But
that wasn't there last night when I kept you know,
I was coming outside, I noticed that until sometime this morning.
So yeah, that's what happened last night. And let's have
me on edge and uh, you know the neighbor's dogs
on the other side of the fence, maybe about one
hundred and fifty yards away. You know, they're pretty good alarm,
you know, because they kind of just run loose and uh,
you know, barks everything that comes up that goes on
back there and so something things usually go back go
on back there, and I hear him going off all
the time. But it actually already started kind of early tonight.
But yeah, that's what happened just just last night.
Speaker 2: For in listening so that you know, this is the
first time I heard about that encounter that he had
last night. Didn't hear anything about the particulars until just
now when you heard it. With that in mind there, Patrick,
would you like to go grab something to bring back
you can sip on, just to maybe reset, because if
you can't have a little reset there once you do
get back after your little break, I don't want to
ask you questions. I want to just have a little
talk with you about that experience. Yeah, that'd be okay,
take your time, butn't do that. And yeah you get back.
When you get back, please don't rush.
Speaker 1: Okay, Delhi, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Vic, You're welcome. While Patrick is doing that, Is there
anyone in the live chat that has any general questions
about dog Men? I could answer for them. I'm going
to keep an eye on that live chat and see
if any pop up. So far in no luck, well,
I'm going to take an opportunity while I'm waiting on
some questions to pop up to promote my new Dogmian podcast.
In case you didn't know about it, I do have
a second dog Man podcast. Now. It's not available on YouTube.
It's only available in podcasts format. You can listen to it. However,
you listen to podcasts. If you don't have a favorite
podcast app that you use to listen to podcasts, an
easy one is iHeartRadio, or if you use Spotify or Spreaker,
you name it. It's on all the podcast apps out there.
But the show is called dog Man Tails. Tails are
spelled t A l ees, reflecting the fact that all
the stories in it in that podcast are fictional. They're
not real. But yeah, if you listen to it, I
think you'll like what you hear, if you like fictitious stories.
I've gone on the record before, I've been frustrated when
people come forward with stories about Dogmen that are fictitious
that they present as being factual. But as long as
they are open about the fact that they're fictitious stories,
I don't have any problem with that at all. So
that'll probably answer some questions right there for anyone who's
wondering about that, which I've already gotten asked that question
quite a few times already. Let's see, it looks like
I've got a few questions popping up. Don't want to
hear from blood VIPA. He wants to know why do
they enjoy causing tear. Well, some people will tell you
that dog men are all demonic in nature, and that
might be the case. I mean, there are so many
credible eyewitnesses out there who've reported witnessing things experiencing things,
it would points soundly towards that being the case. So
maybe the ones that do like to torment us are
demonic in nature. I don't really know. That's not really
a question I can definitively answer for you. All I
can do is basically yes, but on kind of in
the mindset that there might be three different kinds of
dog men as far as categories. You might have some
dogmen that are supernatural in origin, some might be actually aliens,
and the other kind might just be flesh and blood
animals that are out there in the forest trying to
make a living. I mean, after all, back in eighteen
eighty seven in Wexford County, Michigan, Michigan meat eater, he
referenced this encounter just a bit ago. That was the
first documented dogman encounter, So maybe that's what that was.
We definitely didn't have the ability to create any test
tube dogmen back then. There's also another kind of dog
man that might be created in a government laboratory. Some
people say all dogmen fit into that category, but that
couldn't be because, yeah, again back to that eighteen eighty
seven encounter, we didn't have anything approaching the technic to
do that back then. So I hope that answers your question.
Their blood VIPA. Let's see, let's get another one. This
one's from Bang Bang, and Bang wants to know if
I think Patrick is marked. Well, I don't know if
there's any such thing as being marked by dog men.
Some people seem to definitely draw their attention more than
others a lot most eyewitnesses understand most eyewitnesses only have
one dogman encounter. It just seems like it's the norm
for a dogman eyewitness to have repeating encounters because there
have been so many people on the show who've had that.
But if you look at the averages, if you look
at the numbers of people who have come on who've
only had one encounter, they're really outnumber the ones who've
had multiples. So something to keep in mind. Let's seem
going to find another question, and yeah, if you have
any questions for me, please type them in all caps.
Looks like Brandon white Hawk wants to know, Vic, would
you consider doing a show where you take us behind
the scenes on how you create dog mean Encounters episodes. Well,
there isn't any any wizard behind the curtains type thing
going on. It's pretty basic. I just wait for dog
me in reports to come in. Some days I get
as many as well. I don't bat an I if
I have three or four encounters come in one day.
Some days when it gets crazy, I've had like seven
or eight come in. But just basically the encounters come in,
they're reported to me, and then I contact the eyewitnesses.
I schedule a time to have a phone consultation with them.
I talk with them at depth, at length about their encounters,
and the first order of business is to make sure
they're okay. And then after I've made sure that they're okay,
at least to the best of my ability, because you
can help some people more than others, then if they
want to come on the show, we schedule the time
to recor for the show. There's never any pressure to
come on, but if they do actually want to come on,
then I schedule the recording with them and then it's
either let them choose whether they want to do it
as a live stream or as a pre recorded show,
and that's basically all there is to it. It sounds
like Patrick is back. Are you all setting ready? Yeah? Good?
Go all right? Well Patrick, I talked about this a
little bit when we had that first conversation regarding dog Man.
Understand that when it comes to the shell game, they've
got that game mastered, they really do. They're just masterful
thinking that they want to accomplish something over here and
when in fact they've got a totally different goal. That's
what I'm getting at here. I've got no doubts. I
can't guarantee it, but I've got no doubts that dog
Mean that you saw last night, knows where you live.
It's probably been to your property, has probably watched you. Now,
at first glance, that can seem to be really bad news,
but if you take a step back and really analyze it,
it's actually good news because if it knows where you live,
it didn't harm you. It's probably seen you multiple times,
but never has it harmed you. So these guys, I mean,
they'll go miles out of their way to make you
think that they're going to kill you at any opportunity
or I should say in you at any opportunity, but
their actions prove that the contrary is actually the case.
They just do what they do to get a response
out of you. They don't want to kill you. I
use this example all the time. If you played the
Dallas Cowboys, if you had the best high school football team,
play the Dallas Cowboys one hundred times, played one hundred games.
You know, it's just common sense that a hundred times
out of one hundred the Cowboys would beat that high
school football team. Even though it's the best high school
football team. The Cowboys would win one hundred times out
of one hundred times. Why is that is obviously because
the high school football team is so outclassed. It doesn't
matter if the games are in summer, in the rain,
some are in the snow, some are in the heat
of summer. It just doesn't matter because the Cowboys outclassed
that high school football team so much that the high
school football team doesn't have a chance. I talked to
so many eyewitnesses who are caught dead nuts to rights
by these things, and then they tell me about how
they got away from the dog man. You will never
get away from a dog man. That's guided in its
head that it actually does want to get you. They're
just Charlotte TEMs, making you think they're masterful and making
you think, like I said, that they want to end you.
When I'm talking with thousands upon thousands of eyewitnesses who
basically experience that, it's just the normal thing to think
that the dog man is out to try and meet
you or something, well, surprise, surprise, these eyewitnesses walk away
without a scratch. Now again, I've said this countless times.
I'll say it again. I'm never gonna say that dog
men are safe to be around anymore that I'm going
to say that a horse, a camel, a pig, a goat,
or cattle are safe to be around, or people are
safe to be around. Because there are deviant examples of
any critter out there, So why should dogmen be different.
Why should sasquatch be different? You will find dangerous ones,
but the numbers clearly point to the fact that these
guys are not wired by nature to try to rip
you apart as soon as the opportunity presents itself. Because
if that's how they were wired, I wouldn't have spoken
with three four thousand or maybe more dogman eyewitnesses over
the years who are allowed to leave their encounters without
a scratch. So the reason why you feel nauseous and queasy,
it's totally understandable. I mean, you are human, after all.
Your emotions is pretty predictable how you're going to respond
to an experience like that. It's the whole reptile brain thing.
When you have such a primordial experience like that, it
pushes buttons to go all the way back to our
reptile brains. So it's natural it's going to affect you
the way that you're affected. But in your calm times,
when you can actually reflect on everything, take a step
back and really take a good look at how everything
played out, and try not to let your emotions steer
your line of thought. It'll come to you that, okay,
well yeah, I mean this only happened three four miles
away from home. I've already had all these other encounters
with these dog men. There's a strong possibility that dogged
me and has been here before. It has watched me.
It didn't hurt me, but it has watched me before,
so it didn't hurt me. Then I guess everything is okay.
Now again, it's gonna take you time to process this
in a healthy way, so it's not it's not wrecking
you because yeah, I guess wrecking that's a good way
to sum it up. It's going to take time. But
if you remember those seven magic words I shared with you,
the fact that it didn't want to hurt you, clearly
you'll be okay that night. I can understand why, seeing
what you saw, you would think that it really was
out to get you, But for the reasons I mentioned
just a bit ago, I really don't think it was.
Now having said that, before I ask you any questions,
do you have any questions for me that I can
answer for you?
Speaker 1: Well, have you heard of anyone who has had a
dogment tapping the window and they immediately, you know, give
them face full of lead? Is man? Maybe? I mean,
I don't want to shoot into my neighbor's homes or
anything like that. But the second something starts tapping my window,
and you can tell between the finger and that nail sound,
you know, tapping on there, well it's gonna be hard
pressed for you to not just dump the whole magoon
into his face. And maybe then it might want to
hurt me. But you know what, I don't understand is
that the way it took off, and like it acted
as if I'm the one who had heard it. I mean,
I know I didn't, but just saying like it is,
and I know what you're saying is someone comforting knowing that,
you know, these things are so powerful and making just
ripped through your home if they want to, really wanted to,
and they obviously don't do that that we know of,
you know, the same time, though, it's also not all
that comforting, and you know, knowing there's not a whole
lot we can do if they really want to. And
I'm sure there may be the case here and there
that you know, because there's you know, the dead can't
really dead men tell no tales. But uh, where I'm
where I'm at, where my house is at, it's literally
like an unencumbered you know, mile or less from where
this thing was standing when I took off. And uh again,
like and I don't really trust a whole lot anyways
as it is, And uh, I don't want to say
I'm a paranoid person, but I guess maybe I'm probably paranoid,
but especially you know, this last few years I've been
in that you know, hyper vigilant state, and I don't know,
it's it's uh, it's enough to set your hair on
this to stand and it's uh, it's terrifying to think about.
And I really certainly hope that you know, it doesn't
want to come creeping around my home and tapping on
the windows and uh, because I don't know what kind
of messager will be in at that point. And but yeah,
I know, if you really wanted to get to us,
it could have. And why it stood there didn't go
across into the light. Who knows if it's evil or
if it just has that conscious brain that likes to
freak people out, you know, just has a very dark
sense of humor. I mean, I mean they must be
having a good laugh doing all these things to freak
people out. And I mean it could be that they
feed off people's energy and fears their food. But either way,
those things they have the weaponry, you know, tools to
you know, dismantled to shred, to tear, and you know,
if they're not just feeding off of our fears, they
got to be eating something. And it's just not a
pleasant thought to think about, you know, especially as I'm
sitting back here, I'm hearing things, you know, creeping along
the on the other side of these uh, because there's
not a tall grass separating on the other side of
my fence. Again, it is probably possible, hopefully, but you know,
the dog's been going off, and but I can hear
something actually creeping along maybe like twenty five feet from
where I'm at right now. It's actually kind of creeping
me out some I'm sure creeping out.
Speaker 2: To answer your question about the tapping on the windows, yeah,
that's their mo They do that all the time. If
I had a nickel for every time. It's kind of
funny when I talk with eye witnesses, it always makes
me laugh. I don't laugh out loud, but I kind
of quietly chuckle. If I had a nickel for a time.
One of these eyewitnesses I speak with told me, you're
not going to believe this vic what it did next,
and then they go on to tell me about how
it tapped on the window or something. I've heard who
knows how many times. Yeah, in your case, I'm not
laughing at you. Is just a relief because eyewitnesses, when
they tell me stuff like that, it feels so it
feels to them like they're the only person in the
world who's been made to beer such a horrible experience
or such a horrible aspect of having a dog ma
an encounter. But the good news is you are far
from the only person to experience something like that. No,
tons and tons of people, that's the great news. Tons
and tons of people just like you have experienced that
and they haven't come to any harm. That's just another way.
Like I said, these guys are masters and getting the
rise out of eyewitnesses. They know how to push our buttons,
and it did that. The tapping on your window was
done with the sole intent of getting a response out
of you, that's all it was. It's no different than
why the playground bully picks on this kid over here.
You've got all these other kids on the playground. Why
does that playground bully pick on that kid right there
time after time because he knows he's going to get
a response out of this kid right here. Well, the
dog men, you've encountered their bullies, so it's unfortunately expected
that they know they can get a response out of you.
And it's understandable why they have been getting a response
out of you, Patrick, But that's why they're doing what
they're doing. Most definitely, don't pull out a gun and
try blasting a dog through a window that it's tapping on.
You talk about out of the frying pan and into
the fryer. Don't make that mistake. So, yeah, the best
thing you can do is what you've been doing. Don't
push it. I mean, I hate the fact that they're
doing these things to push your buttons, but don't allow
that to cause you to take actions that you're really
gonna probably come to regret. So yeah, I'm glad you
mentioned that the tapping. This is the first I've heard
of it from you. Please don't make that mistake, because
that wouldn't be any good. The whole the whole phrase
don't start none and won't be none. Well, unfortunately, dog man,
they started. But if you try to do certain things back,
you can cause a lot more harm than good. So
that's what I'm getting at here. But do you have
any of the questions for me about all this? I
might be able to answer for you.
Speaker 1: Well, the point you make about the bullies, I mean
that it does make a lot of sense. Just my
whole life I got growing up like I was never
really want to be bullied. But like whenever, I was
always the type of person, always step in when someone's
being bullied because I don't like bullies. And I've always
been the type of pushback. And you know, again they
haven't been. Nothing's tapped on any windows that I know of,
but you know, God forbid, I just hope they don't
try and cross that line. And you know, come think
that it's I just want to say, I believe. And
when you know, things happen, you have two options. You
can either react, which is typically an emotional response, or
you can choose to respond, and that's the clear ahead
of thinking. And I've always been, you know, of that mind,
and you know, I just I hope they don't, you know,
escalate anything, because I'm not I don't really not want
to be pushed around, and because I'll kind of the
type of push back and I don't want to, but
I just I'll do my best to keep a clear
mind when it comes to dealing these things, because I
know they're not They're on a whole different plane. It's
not just like dealing with another person's I do realize that.
And pluses, I've got family here and and they have
a whole community right here. My neighbors, like a neighbors
on both sides of me, werein you know, thirty feet
on each side. And and there's actually someone that I
saw comment on your on the previous episode, in the
Tracy Collins, and she actually lives here in the same
community as I do. So if she's listening, you know,
I'm hi, Tracy. But yeah, I just yeah, no, I
just don't think it'd be a good idea for anybody
if they got for them again, we don't know what
they'd like to do. And maybe you just saw me
and decide to, you know, come tear and acting. I
don't know. And I know there was one person that
asked if I was marked. And sometimes it seems to
be like a recurring theme, uh with some people who
have these encounters that they tend to have a whole
lot more than one. And uh, you know, just keep
our distance and just keep her cool. And I'd rather
go back to where you know, they're just peeking at
you from behind a bush, you know, unbeknownst to us,
and let us go back to that again, because uh,
you know when I used to want to see one
badly a couple of years ago before I seen my
first one. I really regret that now at this point.
So yeah, I really did not want to. I wasn't
expecting that, that's for sure. Oh what, there's something. There's
actually something. I hear something right now. Actually, it sounds
like it's coming along the fence line. Shine a light
on that. I don't know what that is. I don't know,
you know. I think I'll take this back up closer
to the front porch and I don't get up off
this back fence line. I hope it's just yeah, yeah, yeah, Now,
I haven't seen too many deer here. I've seen a
couple of tracks. I think I'm more likely to see
a hog before I see a deer around this area.
Speaker 2: Patrick, I'm so glad you revealed the fact that in
a lot of guys are this way, the fact that
you hate being bullied so much. I'm so glad you've
brought that up. If you don't remember anything from the
conversation tonight except for what I'm about to tell you,
then I still think it's going to be a good thing.
What I'm getting at here is in Africa, when it
comes to lions, their favorite prey animal is a ward hog,
and The reason for that is ward hogs. Because of
their mental makeup. Ward hogs always come back. There's a
saying in Africa war hoogs always come back. Well, depending
on what type of a fight, what type of a
battle you're in, that can be admirable, but again what
type of fight and battle you're in, it can also
be a very foolish thing to do. Ward hoogs more
wardhogs Hogs are killed than any other pre animal that
lions pretty on because of their tendency to fight when
they should tucktail and run. So if you don't remember anything,
like I said, other than this, this is why I'm
saying it would still be a good thing. Yeah, you're
talking about trying to fight a battle you have no
hope of winning. Now, it sounds like you you you
see the flaws and trying to blast one through the
window and everything. But when your quas get going, you
might be If that's how you're already wired, that just
makes you that much more likely to pull the trigger
and do something like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't I don't want to be the warhog. Yeah, yeah,
you're right, I don't want to be. Thank you for
painting that picture. That's very that that that'll stick. Actually,
thank you for saying that, because, yeah, the warhog would
push back and run right back into the jaws. Yeah,
that makes a lot a lot of sense. Thank you
for that. Actually, it's a very fine wisdom.
Speaker 2: Oh you're welcome, just tony like it is. Yeah, I
can understand. This is really a difficult situation you're in.
I get it. But when you're worked up, you've got
family to protect, or you think you've got family to protect.
But if the dog doesn't have it in its head
to actually try to harm you or your family, then
that's mout. That's a moot point. But it might seem
like that's the case, and because it seems that way,
then you might decide to come back of the quote
unquote line. But yeah, even when you're worked up, please
don't make that mistake. Please don't come back tucktail, and
don't fall into that trap, because, like I said, that's
one you can't win. I haven't said all that. Do
you have any other questions I might be able to
answer for you?
Speaker 1: Have you heard of anybody like having I mean, I
mean I've listened to pretty much every episode, so I mean,
I guess I would say I've heard of some people
having amicable relationship with some of these creatures. I'm sure
that's a very very rare cases that be said. I mean,
I'm not. I mean, I'm more in the camp of
like you know, the one store where the kid goes
out with his three uncles with the dogs, and they
go out to that farmhouse and they put the traps
the windows and they blast them and spread the body
parts across the field to let anything else in there,
you know, not to come around they. I'm more in
that camp, but you know, I mean, I might if
I see something like this one taking my dogs. I
take my dogs out every night, usually at least once,
or I mean I take my at least two to
three times a day, but I always take them out
again at night. Another at the door right now, sitting
there looking at me. But I don't really feel like
I'm feeling up to going back to the same spot.
I'm not sure where I'm gonna go now, because I
mean that is right up the street and very accessible.
I mean, if I'm out there walking with my dogs
and I'm unarmed, and something like this appears, and my
dogs do take notice, and they take notice of us,
I mean, what would be the best response is to
all button back to the car or.
Speaker 2: Just no, Nope. The best response is to treated just
like you would a big aggressive dog that you encountered.
If you ran into a grizzly, for example, out in
the woods, treat it the same way. Don't run, don't
curl up into a ball either. Just try to make
sure you don't make eye contact with it, don't turn
your back on it, and absconde get out of the
area in a controlled fashion so that you can still
monitor where it's at if it's coming towards you. You
want to be in a position where you can actually
know that. So yeah, don't be confrontational, don't be quote
unquote cowardly in its eyes. Just try to get away
from the area in a controlled fashion, and there's controlled
to the fashion's possible, and I mean ninety nine point
nine to nine percent of the time you should be
just fine. Now, Like I said, I'm never going to
say the dog men are safe to be around and
there's a zero chance that you could run into a
dangerous one, because there are dangerous ones out there. But
for the aforementioned reasons, it's clear that is really a
once in a blue moon type situation when you actually
do have a situation where a person runs into a
dangerous one. So and I know that there are people
out there that I've gotten tons of messages over the
year as well. You can't speak to the people who
are slaughtered by these things, VIC and that's true, But
I'll tell you what I have done. I've spoken with
three four thousand or more people who are in situations
where they could have been wiped off the face of
the earth, but they weren't. Even though the dog man
had every possible chance to do that, they didn't come
to harm. So that right there tells me that these
guys are not wired to do that. It just boils
down to you, are they wired to rip people apart
as soon as the opportunity presents itself or not? And
if I've spoken with that many people who are allowed
to leave an encounter without so much as a scratch,
the answer is they clearly are not wired to rip
us apart to harm s as soon as the opportunity
presents itself. That's something that you really need to try
to keep in mind. Again, I know it's so hard
to do when you get caught up on how terrifying
these things are to look at and to be around
and everything. I get it. It's not easy at all.
But these guys they take us off our game. They're
so good at taking us off our game. That's why
it's so hard to deal with a dog, mean, an encounter,
to think about the possibility of having another one in
a situation where they might be around your home. Does
this all make sense?
Speaker 1: It does? I mean I've always I mean, I love
all nature's creatures, and I'm very good, especially with canons,
and good with all animals, especially canon. And I mean
that would be awesome if we can have a an
amicable and peacefully and positive relationship these things. I mean,
are they wired to kill us? No, because I mean
there wouldn't be so many people that you talk to.
But uh, you know, are they wired to be friendly?
You know, you know, like a canine pal like we
have with our dogs. I don't think it's very like
that either, But it's a shame and all I'm terrifying
at the same time.
Speaker 2: Oh, They're definitely not wired to be amicable, affable or
anything like that. No, they're just pains in the butt.
So yeah, I'll never say that they are either there's
nothing good about dog men. There's nothing good at all
about these guys. They're just a huge pain in the butt,
but they're here. There's nothing we can do about that.
All we can do is just deal with it. If
you have an encounter, all you can do is just
deal with it the healthiest way you can and hopefully
that's good enough where you can get through and get
by and live your life without being compromised too much
by it. As totally understandable. Like I told you, Patrick,
you've been affected the way you have. You never asked
to have these experiences, especially the one you had last night.
It was just forced upon you. So now all you
can do is just pick up the pieces, try to
remember what's real and not let your imagination do to
how frightening these things are to look at and to
be around. All you can do is your best and
not let that knock you off your game and start
thinking about these guys in ways that have nothing to
do with reality. Again, is there a possibility that a
dog man could harm you, kill you? Yeah, it's totally possible.
There have been several people who have been killed by
these things, but the odds definitely are in your favor,
So yeah, please do the best you can to remember that. Well,
having said that, Patrick, I see, it's already an hour
and five minutes that we've been doing this. You're already
not feeling very good. So I'm about to wrap this
thing up. But before I do that, do you have
any closing comments you want to put out there for us?
Speaker 1: Well, when I first saw that one couple of years ago,
like I felt like I was getting crazy and that
I felt like I was alone. I'm sure plenty of
people who have had experiences with them probably felt the
same way. And it really I mean becoming a hyper vigilant,
like almost patrolling the neighborhood area to try and keep
people safe, you know, and wanting to shout from the
tree tops you know that these things are here. You know.
I'm sure there's probably some people would scoff and laugh
at you, but I don't know, just be aware, and
almost even when not being so aware is also almost
like because it ignorance is bliss. It feels like because
I mean, I want to see one so bad, And
when I saw that person one, it was almost like
an answer to you know, you want to see one well,
here I am, and I kind of almost did wish
that upon myself, certainly last night. That was not expected
by any means. And yeah, I don't know. I just
keep myself from going out of my mind at the meantime.
And so you're right, I'll remember that Warthogh depiction you
so well put, you know, pushing back, you know how,
keep coming back, and they come right back to the
jaws of the line. And I certainly don't want to
be that. So I'm glad.
Speaker 2: And I hope you do remember that. I'm sorry to
interrupt you there.
Speaker 1: I'll just say that that was that was very well put.
That was and that's a great analogy. That was a
spot on.
Speaker 2: Well, it's the truth. It's the truth. I was planning
to get out of here, but before I do, I
want to share something with you that I think is
going to help. There are seven magic words. I don't
think I shared this with you in our first conversation
there or even our second one. There's seven magic words.
I want you to remember their patrick and those seven
magic words are but they didn't want to hurt me.
But they didn't want to hurt me. I get it.
How terrifying these things are, and how fast they can move,
how strong they are, I mean ripping trees out of
the ground at times. I mean they're just ridiculously over equipped.
I get it. They're terrifying us all get out. To
be around and to have one focusing all of its
attention on you, and to be at close range. Yeah,
that's just absolutely too much. But like I said, if
you get out of an encounter with a dog man
or dog men such as in your case, without a scratch,
especially looking at the encounters that you've had where they've
been more than close enough to be able to dispatch
you if they wanted to, it's because they didn't want
to hurt you. It's because they didn't want to harm you.
Perfect example, you have a guy contact you tell you
a vicky.
Speaker 1: You know what.
Speaker 2: Twenty years ago, I used to be a true nature nut.
I used to live butted right up against this huge
national forest, and when I would get bored, I'd go
for nice long walks in that national forest. Well, one
day I was off work, didn't have anything to do,
I was bored out of my mind. So I thought,
you know what, going to go for a nice long
walk in the forest. So I made a sandwich and
got some other stuff together, got some water put into
a container, put all that stuff into a backpack, threw
the backpack over my shoulder, headed out the back door,
down the steps, across the backyard and into the forest. Well.
I'd been walking for maybe thirty minutes, forty five minutes
or so vic when all of a sudden, this giant
werewolf looking thing jumps out from behind this tree. It
was blacker than black black, and it had to be
at least every bit of ten feet tall. And it's
just right in front of me. I mean we're talking
well within grabbing distance, and it's so big. It's just
looming over me, and it's reaching out for me with
these huge clawed hands. The talons had to be four
or five inches long, and it would bend over and
snap in my face and snap it them straighten up
and then bend over and snap. It was just horrible.
And it had these three four inch long lower canines
and it's huge jaws, and I never will forget had
these huge globulets of slobbery that were running out from
between its bottom teeth and hitting the dirt. Pitter pat,
pitter pat. I never will forget the sound of that,
the slobbery globulets hitting the dirt right in front of
my feet. That it was horrible. Well, yeah, sounds like
it must have been horrible. What did you do?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 2: I did the only thing I could think of. I
screamed at the top of my lungs. I peed my pants,
and I collapsed in a heap at his feet and
curled up into the fetal position. Well, yeah, I can
understand you doing that, But when you did that, what
did it do? Oh? He just turned around and walked
off into the trees. I never saw him again. Wow.
Now you want to talk about a dangerous, deadly, monstrous
killing machine that I'll rip you apart as soon as
the opportunity presents itself. Here this dog man had you
dead nuts to rights. What did it do? It didn't
give you so much as a scratch, It never harmed
a single hair in your head, walked off into the
trees and disappeared. You never saw it again. You tried
doing that, You try collapsing right in front of a mountain,
grizzly bear or a tiger, and you come back and
tell me how that works for you. They'll kill you
because they are killers. But that dogged me and approved
with the zone actions that he didn't want to hurt you.
So for the past twenty years you told me about
Mike that you can't sleep right, you can't eat right,
You've lost all these jobs because of all these mental
issues you're dealing with because of that encounter. It's because
and it's not your fault, but it is because you've
assessed that encounter incorrectly. All this time, you had it
in your mind that somehow you got away or you
were in the presence of this deadly, mindless, monstrous killing
machine that had it in its head it wanted to
rip you apart well a proof of his zone actions.
It didn't want to do that. O Mike Patrick, there
are seven magic words that I want you to remember,
and from now on, anytime you start thinking about your
encounters Patrick in ways that have nothing to do with reality,
I want you to recall them and save them out loud.
And those seven magic words are again. I'll save them again.
But they didn't want to hurt me again. They proved
that with their own actions. Now I should ask you
to qualify when it comes to this encounter you had
last night. How sure are you that if it really
wanted to get to you, even though it had that
compromised back leg, that you were close enough to your
car you said it was thirty feet behind you, that
there's no way it could have actually gotten to you
if it really wanted to get to you that time. Again,
like I said, I'm pretty sure it's been around your house,
but that night, as far as that night goes, how
sure are you that it couldn't have gotten to you?
No matter what.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure if it kept on going as I'm
trying to peel off, it would have been at the car,
reaching in and trying to grab at me and my dogs.
And you're right, you know, but it didn't want to
hurt me. And I don't understand why. I mean, they've
got all the tools to do so. It just that's
one of the hardest things to wrap your mind around,
just after already wrapping your mind around the fact that
these things exist, then for them just to do that
and then just turn around a walk away like that,
just it makes no sense to me. And it's just crazy.
And I guess I'll have to I'll be hard pressed
to to to forget that. I mean, I don't. I'll
make sure I keep that in mind. And that and
the word hog analogy. Yeah, I don't, I don't get it.
Speaker 2: Please do keep all these things in mind. It's going
to take time for you to really process all this.
You didn't really need this much help until this encounter
happened last night, so it's going to take time for
all this to sink in. But please do just kick
it over in your head time and time again to
try to let it sink in. And once it has
sunk in, and especially remember those seven magic words to
snap you back to reality. Then you'll be in a
situation where you can deal with all this in a
healthy way. I know you can do it. It seems
like an insurmountable and insurmountable goal, but you can definitely
do it. You really can't. It's just going to take time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, and I think we can learn to.
I'm just really thankful that my kids haven't been terrified
or anything. I mean, I'm sure we talk about anything
spooky because we like to play. We go on these
scary walks in the woods at night, sometimes with the friends,
and because we enjoy it and take a spotlight or
something like that. And I'm usually armed, but you know,
have our dogs just to enjoy that. The range of
emotions that we have going through it, and everyone's always
excited and happy and feeling good afterwards. It's a you know,
it makes your second guess that choice of doing that
now after these encounters. You know, I don't know if
I want to do that so much now, but I
don't want it to stop me from doing the things
I love and being nature's you know, that's what brings me.
You know, my constant, you know, my mind is doesn't
like to shut off. But when i'm nature and if
I'm out there and the calm, quiet, or from fishing,
like those things what helps bring peace and helps me
relieve distress. And I don't want it to take that
away from you. I'm not gonna let it.
Speaker 2: Well that's good, that's really good. Remember you hold all
the cards. You control how much all this affects you
and how much it doesn't. So I know it's easier
said than done, but you are in total control of that.
So right now, you've been knocked so far off base
because of the shock and the tiar of what you've
experienced that it is expected you're not going to do
well at keeping the chaff from affecting you. But over time,
as you can process all these things we've talked about,
it should get easier and easier. So please remember you're
never going to be alone in this. You've always got help.
If you ever need help with this in the future,
all you have to do is just reach out to
me and let me know. And you already know I'll
be there for you, so please never forget that.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Vick.
Speaker 2: Oh, you're welcome. Well. Having said that, thanks again so
much for coming back on there, Patrick, And remember you've
always got help if you ever need it.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: You're welcome. Now. Easier said than done, but try to
have a good night. I will all right, great, I'll
talk talk to you later.
Speaker 1: Good night, everybody.
Speaker 2: All right, that's another one in the books. If you've
had a dogman encounter that you need help with, please
go to dogmandancounters dot com submit a report, and if
you do that, then I'll be more than happy to
schedule a phone consultation with you. That way I can
find out what happened to you as far as your
encounter goes or encounters might go, and we'll take it
from there. If you want to be a guest on
the show, then we can always do that, but of
course there's never any pressure to do so. But having
said that, thanks again so much for listening to everyone.
I really appreciate it, and of course have a great night.
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