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Dogmanencounters dot com forward slash podcast. Hey everyone, thanks so

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much for joining us for another livestream episode of Dogman

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Encounters Radio. Really appreciate you being here. I hate to

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say this, but tonight's guests shouldn't even be here tonight.

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The reason why I say that is he was featured

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on episode five ninety six, and on that show he

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came on and told us about several dog Man Encounters

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he had had They shook him up, but nothing like

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an encounter that he unfortunately had last night. Because of

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the encounter last night and the intensity of it, he's

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not doing all that well right now. He's queasy, he's nauseous.

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I actually told him we shouldn't even be doing this show,

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but he wanted to soldier on. Credit to him. Most

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people wouldn't be up for doing that, but yeah, he

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deserves a lot of credit for that. And without any

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further ado, let's bring him in here now. Tonight's guest

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is Patrick Patrick. Thanks so much for coming back.

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Speaker 1: Of course, Zake absolutely under.

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Speaker 2: The circumstances, like I told you, you shouldn't even be here.

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But if you're sure you want to soldier on, we

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can definitely do that.

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Speaker 1: I've never been one to give up that easy, so

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it'll be quite all right, I think.

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Speaker 2: Okay. Well, forgets to be too much, please please let

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me know. We can always reschedule to finish this up.

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But having said that, if you're sure you're okay. For

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the people who missed episode five ninety six, please tell

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them about yourself.

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Speaker 1: Well, my name is Patrick, I'm from I was born

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in New York, lived most of my life there, but

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I've lived the better half of my life in Texas.

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I'm thirty nine, I've got three kids. I've helped raise

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a few other kids into productive adults that didn't belong

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to either of us. But you know, you don't turn

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away any child that needs it, and just been you

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know life isn't always the easiest, but you know we're

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still making a go of it regardless.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that you are. You really are soldiering on. For

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any of you out there listening who were here for

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episode five ninety six, is your remember I created a

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GoFundMe page for Patrick to help him out of a

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tight jam. Well, he was blown away almost as much

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as I was by the response. I can't thank you

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guys nearly enough for all the help, all of your

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contributions to him you've done, You've worked wonders. The last

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time I checked the tally, I think it was a

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little over two thousand dollars and the goal was seven hundred. So,

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like I said, I can't thank you enough for all

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the contributions you've made. Thank you so much. I really

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appreciate it. And before I ask you for an update

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on your current situation there, Patrick, would you like to

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see anything about that?

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Speaker 1: Of course, first of all, I don't know if I

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have the words to express my gratitude. I'm asking for

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help has never been easy. I'm sure many people can

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relate to that, and I've always been one to you know,

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that jumps in and helps others even when I don't

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have the resources or whatever. But I always believed in

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living my you know, my life is in such a

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way as if you see a need, you feel in need.

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And I've always been that way, and so I'm more

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used to giving a hand than getting receiving the help.

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So for everyone who did. I just want to say

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thank you for a lot of my heart and I

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couldn't there's I couldn't say thank you enough. And that's

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what I's honest truth. And thank you guys again. And

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I was overwhelmed and overjoyed by all the support and

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my kids that were keeping track of it, and you know,

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I just want to say thank you all. And if

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there's any way I could ever repay it, you know

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I will, so I am. I always believe in paying

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it forward. So thank you again everyone.

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Speaker 2: I told you they're amazing people. They really are. Having

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said that, now we've brought everyone up to date on

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that with the thank you for their contributions, please bring

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us up to speed on how you're doing right now,

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what the status of that processes of appealing the eviction.

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Speaker 1: Well, so as far as the appeal goes, you know,

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we had that that last tuesday to be able to

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you know, we did file the appeal, but they want

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they want to x amount of money in the registrar

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and and and that's and that and that can still

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I mean, you can still lose it. And really, all

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I was going to do is just buy us a

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little extra time to figure out what we're gonna do.

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But I spoke to the manager of the property and

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on that Tuesday, and uh, he was I showed him

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to go fund me and he was, you know, surprised

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and taking a back and he was willing to work

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with me. I've given them pretty much every dime that's

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that's that's in the account, and they're they're willing to

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work with me. So I'm just doing what I can

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to continue working off what we owe and trying to

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keep the roof over our heads. So far, the mortgage

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company hasn't. I mean they're calling. I mean they call

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every day, but you know they haven't.

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Speaker 2: Not to interrupt you, but I'm hearing a loud clicking sound.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, actually, that's just I didn't mean to do that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, please continue.

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Speaker 1: But any anyways, Uh, so far, you know they're willing

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to work with us, and you know that he's willing

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to work with us. I don't know about corporate, but

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you know how corporate is the bottom line over people.

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But so far, we're hanging in there. And uh it,

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as I said to this earlier, it kept us from

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having the door slam shut in her face for good.

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So there's still a fighting chance and just gotta work

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my way back and take ourselves out of this hole.

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So again, thank you everyone for your contributions. I really

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appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like I told you, they're amazing people. They really are.

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Just when you lose faith in humanity, something like that

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happens to you and it shows you that there are

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really good people out there.

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Speaker 1: Still I agree. Uh you know, I've never lost faith

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in humanity. There's like I said, I sometimes I can

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even tend to overextend myself and I'm trying to help others.

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But and I've been criticized for trying to help people

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and taking in kids that you know, and like fostering

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them and doing what I can for others. And uh

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you know I've been I said, I've been criticized by

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all the other family members and you know, saying O

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all the resources. But it's you know, I I say,

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no matter what, you'll be okay. And uh, you know,

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I can't go past the cry for help, no matter what.

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Speaker 2: You're a good man. In the dictionary, next to the

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word benevolent. There's a picture of you if I remember right,

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didn't you say that you also know people's lawns who

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need help with that?

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Speaker 1: I sure do. Actually I just did three of them today.

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Speaker 2: Wow, you're a good meal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well you know it's it also helps keep the

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lights on too.

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Speaker 2: So well, that's awfully impressive, especially out there in this heat.

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Not that easy. Well, unfortunately, Patrick, you had an encounter

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just last night. That's what I was referencing when I

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was talking about you being so nauseous and queasy. If

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you're ready, if you're sure you're gonna be able to

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handle it, please tell us what happened. Give a server

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last detail that comes to mind.

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Speaker 1: You got it? So every so whenever I take my

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dogs out again, I take them off the property because

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you know, we don't really have much of the yard

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around here, and I like to take my take my

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dogs a place where they can just run around and

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you know, we can have a good walk for like

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at least an hour or two. And I do it

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twice a day, you know, and we have longer extended

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walks at night. So last night, I want to say,

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is eleven thirty ish? Your take? It was? I guess

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it's kind of earlier and earlier than unusual walks. But uh,

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I wasn't. I wasn't about to do it a second

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time after this. So I went to where I normally go,

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which is where I've had these last two encounters back

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in July, and that part on the far side of

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this block that that's there's the streets are made and

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there's some street lights. And to the left side of

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there's a past year there's a cow pasture. And to

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the right they've been turning, you know, terraforming, and they

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made these you know blocks, whether me putting these houses,

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but there's no houses there just yet. There's houses that

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are built, about two dozen of them or so in

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the surrounding area. But I want I go to the

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furthest uh you know, for the spot away from all that,

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and that's where I had the two previous encounters. Well

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last night there was h a lot of activity. There's

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these uh this, these houses that are on this one

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back street Troy Road. There's several houses back there back

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up to these uh I guess these small woods and

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backs right up against where they're building these new homes

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and uh, you know dogs, you know, these always usually,

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you know, go nuts back there. And last night, I mean,

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I can hear the Kylodies are out and I haven't

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I haven't heard them in a while. And it sounds

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like there's a little bit of some fighting, and it

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even sounded like there's some squealing, Like it sounds to

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me like almost as if there's like a pup getting

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tore up. And oh, this has taking place about oh

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maybe five to six hundred yards east of where we're

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walking around, maybe maybe, I mean, yeah, that sounds about

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that sounds about right. And I can hear them going off.

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you know at night or wherever I always sit and

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listen for a bit, it depends, like you know, I

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can just to just to feel out the energy of

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the surrounding area. You can kind of get a feel for,

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like you know, the animals in the area, or not

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not even just animals, but like I said, you can

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get an overall feeling the vibe of the general area.

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whether it or not, like you feel like it's a

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good good, good good spot to go or if I

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need to move on to someplace else. And I mean

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it felt kind of eerie from beginning, and but you know,

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it wasn't too bad. I had I had my night

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vision scope charged up and uh my flashlight. I mean,

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it wasn't that great, but the night vision scope helps.

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course on scanning the horizon and just just to see

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if I can see any activity. Sometimes I can pick

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up a colty way off out there, or bobcats. We've

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got plenty of those in our area. And that there's

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really nothing that They're pretty sure that most of most

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of the whatever's going on is back there with these dogs.

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And but there's also this other strange noise that I

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can't quite put my finger on. And I swear I've

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been thinking that it's some type of strange bird the

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way it sounds, but I I really don't know what

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it is. And I've heard them, you know, multiple nights.

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Sometimes it's just one, sometimes it's two, sometimes even three.

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But last night it was just one of them. Now

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where I park. You know, it's they said it's basically

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two you know, like a large block I guess of

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just basically grass before before they you know, start putting

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foundations and all that, these big houses and stuff, and

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there's there's a street light at each corner, and so

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we're it's got it's a little it's a bit raised

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up and probably about fifteen feet from like the bottom

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street there, and and uh so we're walking along there

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and I always do the thing we normally like, I

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like to walk all the way across the subdivision that

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they're building and just see a good walk in with

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the dogs. And by the time we get back to

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the car there, you know, they're pretty tuck it out

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and the nap for a good, you know, a good

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long time after they you know, drink you know, some

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water and they pass out. But you know, I said,

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sometimes I just you know, you get the feeling where

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maybe that's not such the greatest idea. So I let

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them do the thing in the area where we're at.

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They we stayed right around the car within you know,

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within one hundred yards or less of the of the car,

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and I have them, I get them loaded back up,

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and so we're about out there for maybe twenty five

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thirty minutes. They said, it's usually a bit shorter than

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what then what the walks don't normally go for but

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it was just had this anxious feeling. Now the cow

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past year, I can see that there's more stakes in

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the ground, and they've been doing a lot more terror

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for me in the surrounding area, which is, like I said,

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it's kind of sad to see them knocking down all

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this beautiful grassland and they're turning into these houses. But

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you know, that's progress for you. But uh so, now

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where our first Okay, so went back up. I get

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the dogs in the car, and I get in the

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car and you know, the windows would roll down and stuff,

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and I was just listening to dogs panting. But I said,

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it felt kind of strange the whole time. And so

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I got back out of the car and I just

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decided I felt like just looking around again and checking

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the area. And I walked over to where I had

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seen that very first gray one in this uh this

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it's it's at the bottom street there and there's this

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broken like you know, broken stone path and uh, manicured

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grass and then there's kind of like wild grassland beyond

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that and a small creek area and some trees. Like

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I said, this area was a cow pasture before you know,

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these houses were being put up and they're still keeping

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some of it, I guess, at least for now, and

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they're developing it in parcels. And so there's a street

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light in this one section that's probably about three fifty

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yards away. But so when he first pointed this this

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new subdivision, when you pull in from the roundabout, there's

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houses on your right hand side and a couple of streets,

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and then there's just a turn off on your left

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hand side and it dead ends. It goes maybe like

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eighty ninety yards and dead ends right there, and it

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looks very nice. We've got a very nice light there

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and a little cobblestone path with a with a bench,

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and they have like these little looks like a thing

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where you can put like books and stuff in where

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people donate books or whatever. And now I said, right

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there after it cuts off, it goes into the grassland again,

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and there's a bunch of trees and there's acres probably

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like I don't know, maybe a hundred acres or so,

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I'm not really sure. At least another hundred acres that

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go beyond that. I know it goes for at least

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almost a quarter to maybe a half mile of nothing

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but grassland. In that in that direction, and so so

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keep that in mind. So there's a that turnoff, and

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then there's a spot with that light where it dead ends.

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And now I'm further on past that. I'm about three

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hundred three hundred yards away, and I'm standing in the

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this uh, darker area that's in between these trees where

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I saw the first, very first dog man and as

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far as the dogman goes the activities, and you know,

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I guess quiet. And I've been going there still, like

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pretty much every day because this is what we're used

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to and it's a good place to let the dollars

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run around. And you know, I'm I'm not really a

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big fan of walking around with a leash, So I'll

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walk around and I scan the tree line and and

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I look across this field and this uh and I

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look look past the creek, and I look all across

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this field and it kind of rises up a little

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bit and I can see where that light is from

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that dead end area and this So the previous encounters

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I've had, yeah, I mean, especially that first one was

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really freaky. I mean you see this massive eight nine

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beasts come out and just kind of sit there and

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look at you, you know, from the creek bottom. I

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mean that one was more terrifying than the other two.

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Like I said, the ones in July I had was

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I saw a gray one in this creek area in

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the dark, kind of like behind some brush. And then

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there was a big white one that was sitting out

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near the exit, uh my turn off the street to

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go up to exit the subdivision, and it was laying

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there kind of lazily. So so far, you know, the

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encounters had work relatively passive, you know, benign, like I said,

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but this this one, this one, it scared the crap

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out of me. So I'm looking through the night vision

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scope three hundred yards away in that area where the

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where the where the light is at, and I can

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see it looks like a very large coyote. And I

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can kind of see it like popping up a little bit,

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like on two feet, but not raising up completely. And

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like I've heard so many other encounters before where I say,

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a hunter has a dog man in their scope or

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something in their scope, cryptid that something that they're unfamiliar with,

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and then this thing snaps her head and turns and

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looks at them and like almost looks at them through

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the scope looks like it's looking right there dead in

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their eyes. Well, that's what this one does. And I

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guess if you stare something long enough, you know, whatever

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you're looking at, it's going to know that you're looking

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at it, and it turns at tension towards me. Now,

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if it was just something I observed from a distance, great,

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but it wasn't like that. And this is where like

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the reason I feel sick and this nauseous feeling because

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I've been thinking about this all day, Like I've had

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these constant dumps of adrenaline to my system to where

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like you know, where you can feel it in your body,

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like almost want to stiffen up. And my back's been

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injured lately, and I like almost the point where like

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it feels that my back wants to stiffen up again,

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like I can feel it. And uh that like this

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was been having this, I got me in this nervous state.

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So I'm looking at this and it had the markings

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I would say kind of similar to a coyote as well,

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but I was maybe four or five times bigger, give

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or take. And I said it was popping up and

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it stopped, and then it was looking off to its

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left into the grass area, and it snapped its head

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towards my direction and it started running towards me on

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first on not on not on two legs, but not

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on four legs either. It was running towards my direction

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on three legs. I can see that it's one of

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its back legs. It was. I don't know if it's

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lame or what injured. I'm not sure, but I can

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tell it was running on the two front legs and

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one of the back legs, and it was moving quickly.

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And at that point, like that's where like all that

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that just that shock. It was like a like there's

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a lightning zaps right through your body. And my skelton

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had jumped out of my skin and took off running,

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and I had I was stuck for a second. Then

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I had to go catch up with my with the

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rest of myself, like my soul had just jumped and

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took off. And that was absolutely terrifying. I now the

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car was only like thirty feet forty feet behind me,

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and you know, I'd like to drop my windows down

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at night. All my windows were down. I can tell

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the dogs were like they were onto something like they

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were they were like looking around, and I can tell

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they were anxious. But I mean, I got in my car,

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and my car was already running. It's a hybrid, so

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you don't you don't even hear it if it's just

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sitting there in idol, And I just pushed the gas

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and I took off. Normally, I just I just let it,

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you know, reverse back, and I reversed down that little

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slope and then I'll all pull forward and go. But

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I took straight forward, and I saw through the back window.

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I actually even put my head out out the window

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and looked back as well. And so this thing clearly

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had come screaming hauling across. But the way, the way

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it ran, that's what really freaks me out more than

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anything is because it was it was like its back

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was all humped, like hunched, like like you know, like

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when a cat it's trying to get big and intimidating

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and like to another animal, like another dog or another cat,

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where its back kind of goes up into this arch.

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It was running like that, and and its head was

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low and his back was arched. You see its hair,

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you know, his hair was like flared out, and it

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was it was tearing off across the field my direction,

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and it as I had pushed pressed on the gas

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and started going. It only took me maybe a second

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or two to get it into the car and the

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person gas and start going. And by the time I've

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done that, and when I look back in my rear

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view mirror, this thing was already at that point where

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I was just standing right there at the edge of

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the darkness, just just uh. It didn't cross into the

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to the manicured you know fresh you know the green

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grass it's been planted, and and that crushed stone, you

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know path there, It didn't cross over into into that.

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It literally it didn't. It didn't come into the light,

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but it was right there at the edge, and it

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was just just like like if lukes could kill, like

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this thing was just drilling, boring a hole into into

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my soul or something. It was. I don't know what

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was worse. The way that it stood there staring at me,

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and like by at that point it popped up on

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two feet and so I like with its mouth was

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slightly a gape, like it was kind of panting, But

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just the way that it ran it was so freaky.

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And I don't know if that was because if something's

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wrong with its leg or what. But I had never

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seen something like run like that. And that was boy,

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I'm telling you, like that right there, it was like

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an absolute shock to the system. And again like it was,

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it had basically like the cowdy color my markings to it.

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And I don't think it was the one, the great

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one that I'd seen before. I'm pretty sure this one

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was different. And again, all this takes place with these

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the big power lines that just run for miles. And

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as we know, anyone who's listened to you know, big

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you know Sasquatch and dog man stories, like a lot

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of these these areas where these power lines stretch and

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go for miles are kind of like a not just

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you know, it's basically a highway for anything you know,

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that's out there in the wild to kind of like

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have an unencumbered, you know, path through to other areas.

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And it's literally like right in the midst of all that.

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And and now, mind you where I'm sitting right now

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in my backyard. I mean, my fence is right here

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in front of me, which there's some plenty of slaps

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that are missing because it's an old fence, but it's

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all this from where I'm sitting. After the way that the

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crow flies is maybe maybe less than a mile. Those

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those multiple dogman encounters all took place less than a mile,

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except for the very first one that was maybe like

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three and a half miles from where I'm at. But yeah,

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and that was I mean, I'm telling you, my bones

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jumped right out of my skin and took off without me.

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I had to catch up, and seeing it standing at

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the end, but just the way it ran just really

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freaks me out. And again, it just reminds me of

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the way a cat kind of bows up to get

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big and intimidating. And but it ran all the way

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across the field like that, like at least for a

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few seconds. I started, I saw it coming towards my direction.

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After it looked at me, and then I tore off,

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But it was started running off towards my direction that

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way with and I said, one of the back foot

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feet weren't touching the ground, like it wouldn't swing its leg.

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I don't know something broken or what, but it looked

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at me as if I'm the one who had named it,

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which I mean I'm not, But who knows what they

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how they think I don't know, but that one's scared

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the daylights out of me. I really couldn't sleep which

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last line at all. It's been you know, it's been

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on my mind all day long. I've got to take

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the dogs out, and I don't. I don't want to

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go back there. I know that they're gonna be tearing

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that whole pasture down where, you know, I don't really

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want to go back there until, like until after that

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whole area has been bulldozed, which I hate seeing trees

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and nature being torn down to, you know, for progress

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to these homes. Like I like progress, you know, because

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where I come from New York, there's so little development there,

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so you have the beautiful nature. But at the same time,

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there's no middle ground of progress. So all these old

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towns will you know, eventually die, you know, whither away

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because there's nothing there because you know, all these people

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are very much against main development. So I like development,

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00:30:04,319 --> 00:30:07,319
but you know, I really like nature too, especially when

477
00:30:07,319 --> 00:30:10,039
I can take my animals out there and my kids

478
00:30:10,039 --> 00:30:13,240
and enjoy it. And plus there's got to be a

479
00:30:13,319 --> 00:30:16,160
home for all these animals that live out here, you know,

480
00:30:16,559 --> 00:30:20,720
And and that's being strict away. But honestly, like I'm

481
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,960
good with not even going. I'll be good until the

482
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,680
whole forest is you know, nothing, but you know, just

483
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,920
just piles, you know, dirt that's been just flattened out

484
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,960
for houses like that scared the crap out. I mean,

485
00:30:33,079 --> 00:30:38,799
I'm sure that'll change eventually, you know, I won't even

486
00:30:38,799 --> 00:30:41,079
be that long, but right now, it's still very fresh,

487
00:30:41,759 --> 00:30:44,160
and I want nothing to do with it. And that's

488
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,960
scared the daylights out of me. I mean, I said,

489
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,720
I've had every time I think about I'm just getting

490
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,519
these dump I can feel it in my system, you know,

491
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,519
that spike of adrenaline and then all that kind of

492
00:30:55,599 --> 00:31:00,599
like you feel flush in it, you know, just dumps.

493
00:31:00,599 --> 00:31:02,920
So then you feel just kind of drained and uh,

494
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,599
kind of stiff. And I've been feeling that all day.

495
00:31:07,119 --> 00:31:10,240
And I was gonna talk to my son about it,

496
00:31:10,279 --> 00:31:12,400
but because I talked to my kids about everything, but

497
00:31:12,519 --> 00:31:17,519
I really felt like that probably, I mean, that probably

498
00:31:17,519 --> 00:31:20,119
wouldn't be a good idea. I you know, I don't

499
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:24,079
want to fill their heads with image of these things.

500
00:31:24,079 --> 00:31:26,759
And you know, again, last night, after I've gotten home,

501
00:31:26,839 --> 00:31:28,759
you know, it's like three o'clock in the morning and

502
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,000
you know, I'm going outside of the back patio and

503
00:31:32,119 --> 00:31:35,880
I just listened, and which you know I do often.

504
00:31:36,559 --> 00:31:39,279
You know, sometimes possibles come through sometimes. Now I just

505
00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:42,240
want to make sure that no coyoties or Bobcat comes

506
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,680
through my back fence there to you know, harm anyone's animals,

507
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:50,319
because it's happened before. But I heard something walking around

508
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,559
back there like it, but it never shows itself. Now again,

509
00:31:53,799 --> 00:31:55,599
it could be just possums and so it could be

510
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,599
all you know, me just freaking out from previous. But

511
00:31:59,759 --> 00:32:03,920
some thing at some point eventually did come up onto

512
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,759
my back of course because I had this this tarp

513
00:32:06,279 --> 00:32:09,039
kind of like blocking the sunlight, like I set up

514
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,519
on my back of course there so that way it

515
00:32:11,559 --> 00:32:16,440
was covered and and you know, I know the sun

516
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,839
eventually makes the tar is kind of brittle. But something

517
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,400
had climbed up and looked like it was trying to

518
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:27,799
go to my roof. And there's actually a couple of

519
00:32:28,559 --> 00:32:30,119
let's see, I'm looking at it right now, there's a

520
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:35,160
couple of chairs from looks like where feet had went into.

521
00:32:37,359 --> 00:32:42,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, so there's like there's like two initial and then

522
00:32:42,599 --> 00:32:46,759
there's another couple, uh, look like it's something had tried

523
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:51,200
climbing up and going up the tarp to time maybe

524
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,480
I thought it was more of a stable roof, but

525
00:32:53,599 --> 00:32:55,160
it was pulled pretty tight.

526
00:32:56,599 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: Because I got it screwed and screwed in the side

527
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,839
of the house and it comes off at an angle,

528
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,880
and it looked like something tried climbing up that and

529
00:33:04,599 --> 00:33:08,759
it actually tore through the carp there and it obviously

530
00:33:08,799 --> 00:33:13,079
didn't make it sor as far as I know, But

531
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,480
that wasn't there last night when I kept you know,

532
00:33:15,519 --> 00:33:18,519
I was coming outside, I noticed that until sometime this morning.

533
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,200
So yeah, that's what happened last night. And let's have

534
00:33:24,359 --> 00:33:27,960
me on edge and uh, you know the neighbor's dogs

535
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,319
on the other side of the fence, maybe about one

536
00:33:29,359 --> 00:33:32,759
hundred and fifty yards away. You know, they're pretty good alarm,

537
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,599
you know, because they kind of just run loose and uh,

538
00:33:36,759 --> 00:33:38,960
you know, barks everything that comes up that goes on

539
00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:42,279
back there and so something things usually go back go

540
00:33:42,359 --> 00:33:44,720
on back there, and I hear him going off all

541
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,799
the time. But it actually already started kind of early tonight.

542
00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:53,000
But yeah, that's what happened just just last night.

543
00:33:55,039 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 2: For in listening so that you know, this is the

544
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,319
first time I heard about that encounter that he had

545
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,279
last night. Didn't hear anything about the particulars until just

546
00:34:03,359 --> 00:34:07,200
now when you heard it. With that in mind there, Patrick,

547
00:34:07,559 --> 00:34:09,599
would you like to go grab something to bring back

548
00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:14,079
you can sip on, just to maybe reset, because if

549
00:34:14,119 --> 00:34:16,800
you can't have a little reset there once you do

550
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,079
get back after your little break, I don't want to

551
00:34:20,079 --> 00:34:22,199
ask you questions. I want to just have a little

552
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:26,119
talk with you about that experience. Yeah, that'd be okay,

553
00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:30,480
take your time, butn't do that. And yeah you get back.

554
00:34:30,519 --> 00:34:33,280
When you get back, please don't rush.

555
00:34:33,519 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 1: Okay, Delhi, I appreciate it.

556
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:40,159
Speaker 2: Vic, You're welcome. While Patrick is doing that, Is there

557
00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:42,960
anyone in the live chat that has any general questions

558
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:51,360
about dog Men? I could answer for them. I'm going

559
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,360
to keep an eye on that live chat and see

560
00:34:53,360 --> 00:35:13,519
if any pop up. So far in no luck, well,

561
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,920
I'm going to take an opportunity while I'm waiting on

562
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,400
some questions to pop up to promote my new Dogmian podcast.

563
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,880
In case you didn't know about it, I do have

564
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,679
a second dog Man podcast. Now. It's not available on YouTube.

565
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:30,239
It's only available in podcasts format. You can listen to it. However,

566
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,400
you listen to podcasts. If you don't have a favorite

567
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,199
podcast app that you use to listen to podcasts, an

568
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:41,599
easy one is iHeartRadio, or if you use Spotify or Spreaker,

569
00:35:42,079 --> 00:35:45,000
you name it. It's on all the podcast apps out there.

570
00:35:45,039 --> 00:35:48,719
But the show is called dog Man Tails. Tails are

571
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,639
spelled t A l ees, reflecting the fact that all

572
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,480
the stories in it in that podcast are fictional. They're

573
00:35:56,519 --> 00:36:00,440
not real. But yeah, if you listen to it, I

574
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,559
think you'll like what you hear, if you like fictitious stories.

575
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,119
I've gone on the record before, I've been frustrated when

576
00:36:08,119 --> 00:36:11,360
people come forward with stories about Dogmen that are fictitious

577
00:36:11,639 --> 00:36:14,599
that they present as being factual. But as long as

578
00:36:14,639 --> 00:36:17,400
they are open about the fact that they're fictitious stories,

579
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,159
I don't have any problem with that at all. So

580
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,800
that'll probably answer some questions right there for anyone who's

581
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,000
wondering about that, which I've already gotten asked that question

582
00:36:27,519 --> 00:36:30,440
quite a few times already. Let's see, it looks like

583
00:36:30,519 --> 00:36:35,320
I've got a few questions popping up. Don't want to

584
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,840
hear from blood VIPA. He wants to know why do

585
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,000
they enjoy causing tear. Well, some people will tell you

586
00:36:41,079 --> 00:36:46,039
that dog men are all demonic in nature, and that

587
00:36:46,119 --> 00:36:48,239
might be the case. I mean, there are so many

588
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,960
credible eyewitnesses out there who've reported witnessing things experiencing things,

589
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,159
it would points soundly towards that being the case. So

590
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,719
maybe the ones that do like to torment us are

591
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,880
demonic in nature. I don't really know. That's not really

592
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,559
a question I can definitively answer for you. All I

593
00:37:04,559 --> 00:37:08,199
can do is basically yes, but on kind of in

594
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,519
the mindset that there might be three different kinds of

595
00:37:10,559 --> 00:37:13,599
dog men as far as categories. You might have some

596
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:19,360
dogmen that are supernatural in origin, some might be actually aliens,

597
00:37:20,079 --> 00:37:22,400
and the other kind might just be flesh and blood

598
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,800
animals that are out there in the forest trying to

599
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,440
make a living. I mean, after all, back in eighteen

600
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,400
eighty seven in Wexford County, Michigan, Michigan meat eater, he

601
00:37:31,559 --> 00:37:34,960
referenced this encounter just a bit ago. That was the

602
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:40,719
first documented dogman encounter, So maybe that's what that was.

603
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,840
We definitely didn't have the ability to create any test

604
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,280
tube dogmen back then. There's also another kind of dog

605
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,719
man that might be created in a government laboratory. Some

606
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,800
people say all dogmen fit into that category, but that

607
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,320
couldn't be because, yeah, again back to that eighteen eighty

608
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:01,000
seven encounter, we didn't have anything approaching the technic to

609
00:38:01,079 --> 00:38:04,239
do that back then. So I hope that answers your question.

610
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,719
Their blood VIPA. Let's see, let's get another one. This

611
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,920
one's from Bang Bang, and Bang wants to know if

612
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,400
I think Patrick is marked. Well, I don't know if

613
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,199
there's any such thing as being marked by dog men.

614
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,880
Some people seem to definitely draw their attention more than

615
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,480
others a lot most eyewitnesses understand most eyewitnesses only have

616
00:38:27,639 --> 00:38:31,840
one dogman encounter. It just seems like it's the norm

617
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,480
for a dogman eyewitness to have repeating encounters because there

618
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,519
have been so many people on the show who've had that.

619
00:38:37,639 --> 00:38:39,800
But if you look at the averages, if you look

620
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,159
at the numbers of people who have come on who've

621
00:38:42,159 --> 00:38:45,480
only had one encounter, they're really outnumber the ones who've

622
00:38:45,519 --> 00:38:50,519
had multiples. So something to keep in mind. Let's seem

623
00:38:50,519 --> 00:38:53,519
going to find another question, and yeah, if you have

624
00:38:53,559 --> 00:38:56,599
any questions for me, please type them in all caps.

625
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,719
Looks like Brandon white Hawk wants to know, Vic, would

626
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,760
you consider doing a show where you take us behind

627
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:08,599
the scenes on how you create dog mean Encounters episodes. Well,

628
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:14,400
there isn't any any wizard behind the curtains type thing

629
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:18,079
going on. It's pretty basic. I just wait for dog

630
00:39:18,119 --> 00:39:21,480
me in reports to come in. Some days I get

631
00:39:21,519 --> 00:39:23,239
as many as well. I don't bat an I if

632
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,360
I have three or four encounters come in one day.

633
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,480
Some days when it gets crazy, I've had like seven

634
00:39:28,599 --> 00:39:32,119
or eight come in. But just basically the encounters come in,

635
00:39:32,159 --> 00:39:35,360
they're reported to me, and then I contact the eyewitnesses.

636
00:39:36,039 --> 00:39:39,159
I schedule a time to have a phone consultation with them.

637
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:44,360
I talk with them at depth, at length about their encounters,

638
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,440
and the first order of business is to make sure

639
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,039
they're okay. And then after I've made sure that they're okay,

640
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,800
at least to the best of my ability, because you

641
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,960
can help some people more than others, then if they

642
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,639
want to come on the show, we schedule the time

643
00:39:59,679 --> 00:40:02,000
to recor for the show. There's never any pressure to

644
00:40:02,039 --> 00:40:04,440
come on, but if they do actually want to come on,

645
00:40:04,519 --> 00:40:08,719
then I schedule the recording with them and then it's

646
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,119
either let them choose whether they want to do it

647
00:40:11,159 --> 00:40:14,280
as a live stream or as a pre recorded show,

648
00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:19,679
and that's basically all there is to it. It sounds

649
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:24,039
like Patrick is back. Are you all setting ready? Yeah? Good?

650
00:40:24,119 --> 00:40:31,480
Go all right? Well Patrick, I talked about this a

651
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:36,719
little bit when we had that first conversation regarding dog Man.

652
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,559
Understand that when it comes to the shell game, they've

653
00:40:40,559 --> 00:40:44,559
got that game mastered, they really do. They're just masterful

654
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:49,760
thinking that they want to accomplish something over here and

655
00:40:52,079 --> 00:40:55,559
when in fact they've got a totally different goal. That's

656
00:40:55,599 --> 00:40:58,559
what I'm getting at here. I've got no doubts. I

657
00:40:58,639 --> 00:41:01,039
can't guarantee it, but I've got no doubts that dog

658
00:41:01,159 --> 00:41:04,119
Mean that you saw last night, knows where you live.

659
00:41:04,559 --> 00:41:08,880
It's probably been to your property, has probably watched you. Now,

660
00:41:09,519 --> 00:41:12,599
at first glance, that can seem to be really bad news,

661
00:41:13,039 --> 00:41:16,360
but if you take a step back and really analyze it,

662
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,320
it's actually good news because if it knows where you live,

663
00:41:20,199 --> 00:41:23,760
it didn't harm you. It's probably seen you multiple times,

664
00:41:24,079 --> 00:41:28,840
but never has it harmed you. So these guys, I mean,

665
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,000
they'll go miles out of their way to make you

666
00:41:31,039 --> 00:41:35,519
think that they're going to kill you at any opportunity

667
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:41,159
or I should say in you at any opportunity, but

668
00:41:41,599 --> 00:41:45,000
their actions prove that the contrary is actually the case.

669
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,360
They just do what they do to get a response

670
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,800
out of you. They don't want to kill you. I

671
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,519
use this example all the time. If you played the

672
00:41:53,599 --> 00:41:56,920
Dallas Cowboys, if you had the best high school football team,

673
00:41:57,159 --> 00:42:01,039
play the Dallas Cowboys one hundred times, played one hundred games.

674
00:42:01,559 --> 00:42:04,519
You know, it's just common sense that a hundred times

675
00:42:04,559 --> 00:42:07,159
out of one hundred the Cowboys would beat that high

676
00:42:07,199 --> 00:42:09,519
school football team. Even though it's the best high school

677
00:42:09,519 --> 00:42:12,960
football team. The Cowboys would win one hundred times out

678
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,760
of one hundred times. Why is that is obviously because

679
00:42:17,199 --> 00:42:21,119
the high school football team is so outclassed. It doesn't

680
00:42:21,159 --> 00:42:23,199
matter if the games are in summer, in the rain,

681
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,199
some are in the snow, some are in the heat

682
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,480
of summer. It just doesn't matter because the Cowboys outclassed

683
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:33,639
that high school football team so much that the high

684
00:42:33,639 --> 00:42:36,480
school football team doesn't have a chance. I talked to

685
00:42:36,559 --> 00:42:39,519
so many eyewitnesses who are caught dead nuts to rights

686
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,480
by these things, and then they tell me about how

687
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,639
they got away from the dog man. You will never

688
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,639
get away from a dog man. That's guided in its

689
00:42:47,679 --> 00:42:51,519
head that it actually does want to get you. They're

690
00:42:51,599 --> 00:42:55,280
just Charlotte TEMs, making you think they're masterful and making

691
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,039
you think, like I said, that they want to end you.

692
00:42:58,559 --> 00:43:03,840
When I'm talking with thousands upon thousands of eyewitnesses who

693
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:09,360
basically experience that, it's just the normal thing to think

694
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,559
that the dog man is out to try and meet

695
00:43:11,599 --> 00:43:16,639
you or something, well, surprise, surprise, these eyewitnesses walk away

696
00:43:16,639 --> 00:43:20,239
without a scratch. Now again, I've said this countless times.

697
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,239
I'll say it again. I'm never gonna say that dog

698
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,880
men are safe to be around anymore that I'm going

699
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,360
to say that a horse, a camel, a pig, a goat,

700
00:43:27,679 --> 00:43:30,639
or cattle are safe to be around, or people are

701
00:43:30,679 --> 00:43:34,199
safe to be around. Because there are deviant examples of

702
00:43:34,599 --> 00:43:38,559
any critter out there, So why should dogmen be different.

703
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,920
Why should sasquatch be different? You will find dangerous ones,

704
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,559
but the numbers clearly point to the fact that these

705
00:43:46,599 --> 00:43:49,679
guys are not wired by nature to try to rip

706
00:43:49,679 --> 00:43:53,360
you apart as soon as the opportunity presents itself. Because

707
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,119
if that's how they were wired, I wouldn't have spoken

708
00:43:56,159 --> 00:43:59,880
with three four thousand or maybe more dogman eyewitnesses over

709
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,760
the years who are allowed to leave their encounters without

710
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:07,119
a scratch. So the reason why you feel nauseous and queasy,

711
00:44:07,159 --> 00:44:11,119
it's totally understandable. I mean, you are human, after all.

712
00:44:11,199 --> 00:44:14,840
Your emotions is pretty predictable how you're going to respond

713
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,840
to an experience like that. It's the whole reptile brain thing.

714
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:24,639
When you have such a primordial experience like that, it

715
00:44:24,679 --> 00:44:26,840
pushes buttons to go all the way back to our

716
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,880
reptile brains. So it's natural it's going to affect you

717
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:35,800
the way that you're affected. But in your calm times,

718
00:44:36,159 --> 00:44:39,719
when you can actually reflect on everything, take a step

719
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,440
back and really take a good look at how everything

720
00:44:42,559 --> 00:44:47,360
played out, and try not to let your emotions steer

721
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,320
your line of thought. It'll come to you that, okay,

722
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,519
well yeah, I mean this only happened three four miles

723
00:44:54,519 --> 00:44:58,079
away from home. I've already had all these other encounters

724
00:44:58,199 --> 00:45:01,400
with these dog men. There's a strong possibility that dogged

725
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,480
me and has been here before. It has watched me.

726
00:45:04,639 --> 00:45:07,559
It didn't hurt me, but it has watched me before,

727
00:45:08,159 --> 00:45:11,920
so it didn't hurt me. Then I guess everything is okay.

728
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,360
Now again, it's gonna take you time to process this

729
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,400
in a healthy way, so it's not it's not wrecking

730
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,079
you because yeah, I guess wrecking that's a good way

731
00:45:22,119 --> 00:45:25,239
to sum it up. It's going to take time. But

732
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,920
if you remember those seven magic words I shared with you,

733
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,239
the fact that it didn't want to hurt you, clearly

734
00:45:31,199 --> 00:45:35,840
you'll be okay that night. I can understand why, seeing

735
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,519
what you saw, you would think that it really was

736
00:45:38,599 --> 00:45:41,800
out to get you, But for the reasons I mentioned

737
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,880
just a bit ago, I really don't think it was.

738
00:45:44,519 --> 00:45:47,360
Now having said that, before I ask you any questions,

739
00:45:47,679 --> 00:45:49,679
do you have any questions for me that I can

740
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:50,440
answer for you?

741
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: Well, have you heard of anyone who has had a

742
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,800
dogment tapping the window and they immediately, you know, give

743
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:04,119
them face full of lead? Is man? Maybe? I mean,

744
00:46:04,159 --> 00:46:05,840
I don't want to shoot into my neighbor's homes or

745
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:10,920
anything like that. But the second something starts tapping my window,

746
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:15,320
and you can tell between the finger and that nail sound,

747
00:46:15,559 --> 00:46:18,760
you know, tapping on there, well it's gonna be hard

748
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,119
pressed for you to not just dump the whole magoon

749
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,119
into his face. And maybe then it might want to

750
00:46:24,199 --> 00:46:26,239
hurt me. But you know what, I don't understand is

751
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:30,400
that the way it took off, and like it acted

752
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,320
as if I'm the one who had heard it. I mean,

753
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,119
I know I didn't, but just saying like it is,

754
00:46:36,199 --> 00:46:40,440
and I know what you're saying is someone comforting knowing that,

755
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,559
you know, these things are so powerful and making just

756
00:46:43,599 --> 00:46:45,599
ripped through your home if they want to, really wanted to,

757
00:46:46,119 --> 00:46:49,360
and they obviously don't do that that we know of,

758
00:46:49,559 --> 00:46:54,719
you know, the same time, though, it's also not all

759
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,920
that comforting, and you know, knowing there's not a whole

760
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,599
lot we can do if they really want to. And

761
00:46:59,599 --> 00:47:02,159
I'm sure there may be the case here and there

762
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,599
that you know, because there's you know, the dead can't

763
00:47:05,639 --> 00:47:10,280
really dead men tell no tales. But uh, where I'm

764
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,280
where I'm at, where my house is at, it's literally

765
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:17,400
like an unencumbered you know, mile or less from where

766
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:21,280
this thing was standing when I took off. And uh again,

767
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:25,840
like and I don't really trust a whole lot anyways

768
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,360
as it is, And uh, I don't want to say

769
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,920
I'm a paranoid person, but I guess maybe I'm probably paranoid,

770
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,519
but especially you know, this last few years I've been

771
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:41,400
in that you know, hyper vigilant state, and I don't know,

772
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:45,239
it's it's uh, it's enough to set your hair on

773
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:50,280
this to stand and it's uh, it's terrifying to think about.

774
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:54,360
And I really certainly hope that you know, it doesn't

775
00:47:54,599 --> 00:47:57,440
want to come creeping around my home and tapping on

776
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,599
the windows and uh, because I don't know what kind

777
00:48:01,639 --> 00:48:06,199
of messager will be in at that point. And but yeah,

778
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,639
I know, if you really wanted to get to us,

779
00:48:08,679 --> 00:48:12,559
it could have. And why it stood there didn't go

780
00:48:12,599 --> 00:48:15,800
across into the light. Who knows if it's evil or

781
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:20,440
if it just has that conscious brain that likes to

782
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,199
freak people out, you know, just has a very dark

783
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,480
sense of humor. I mean, I mean they must be

784
00:48:25,519 --> 00:48:27,360
having a good laugh doing all these things to freak

785
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,599
people out. And I mean it could be that they

786
00:48:31,639 --> 00:48:37,079
feed off people's energy and fears their food. But either way,

787
00:48:37,159 --> 00:48:41,239
those things they have the weaponry, you know, tools to

788
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:46,320
you know, dismantled to shred, to tear, and you know,

789
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:50,199
if they're not just feeding off of our fears, they

790
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:54,639
got to be eating something. And it's just not a

791
00:48:54,679 --> 00:48:57,320
pleasant thought to think about, you know, especially as I'm

792
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,480
sitting back here, I'm hearing things, you know, creeping along

793
00:48:59,639 --> 00:49:02,280
the on the other side of these uh, because there's

794
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,639
not a tall grass separating on the other side of

795
00:49:05,679 --> 00:49:11,280
my fence. Again, it is probably possible, hopefully, but you know,

796
00:49:11,519 --> 00:49:15,400
the dog's been going off, and but I can hear

797
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,440
something actually creeping along maybe like twenty five feet from

798
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,599
where I'm at right now. It's actually kind of creeping

799
00:49:22,639 --> 00:49:25,760
me out some I'm sure creeping out.

800
00:49:27,599 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 2: To answer your question about the tapping on the windows, yeah,

801
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,960
that's their mo They do that all the time. If

802
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,119
I had a nickel for every time. It's kind of

803
00:49:36,119 --> 00:49:39,239
funny when I talk with eye witnesses, it always makes

804
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,920
me laugh. I don't laugh out loud, but I kind

805
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,119
of quietly chuckle. If I had a nickel for a time.

806
00:49:45,199 --> 00:49:47,639
One of these eyewitnesses I speak with told me, you're

807
00:49:47,639 --> 00:49:49,760
not going to believe this vic what it did next,

808
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,159
and then they go on to tell me about how

809
00:49:51,159 --> 00:49:54,199
it tapped on the window or something. I've heard who

810
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:58,320
knows how many times. Yeah, in your case, I'm not

811
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:02,719
laughing at you. Is just a relief because eyewitnesses, when

812
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,920
they tell me stuff like that, it feels so it

813
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,119
feels to them like they're the only person in the

814
00:50:08,159 --> 00:50:11,960
world who's been made to beer such a horrible experience

815
00:50:12,079 --> 00:50:15,119
or such a horrible aspect of having a dog ma

816
00:50:15,119 --> 00:50:18,199
an encounter. But the good news is you are far

817
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,320
from the only person to experience something like that. No,

818
00:50:21,519 --> 00:50:24,920
tons and tons of people, that's the great news. Tons

819
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,880
and tons of people just like you have experienced that

820
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,239
and they haven't come to any harm. That's just another way.

821
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,159
Like I said, these guys are masters and getting the

822
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:39,079
rise out of eyewitnesses. They know how to push our buttons,

823
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,440
and it did that. The tapping on your window was

824
00:50:42,519 --> 00:50:45,440
done with the sole intent of getting a response out

825
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,519
of you, that's all it was. It's no different than

826
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,760
why the playground bully picks on this kid over here.

827
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,159
You've got all these other kids on the playground. Why

828
00:50:56,159 --> 00:50:58,800
does that playground bully pick on that kid right there

829
00:50:59,159 --> 00:51:01,960
time after time because he knows he's going to get

830
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,079
a response out of this kid right here. Well, the

831
00:51:05,119 --> 00:51:11,079
dog men, you've encountered their bullies, so it's unfortunately expected

832
00:51:11,119 --> 00:51:13,519
that they know they can get a response out of you.

833
00:51:14,079 --> 00:51:16,719
And it's understandable why they have been getting a response

834
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,480
out of you, Patrick, But that's why they're doing what

835
00:51:19,519 --> 00:51:23,159
they're doing. Most definitely, don't pull out a gun and

836
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,400
try blasting a dog through a window that it's tapping on.

837
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,800
You talk about out of the frying pan and into

838
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:34,320
the fryer. Don't make that mistake. So, yeah, the best

839
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,360
thing you can do is what you've been doing. Don't

840
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,360
push it. I mean, I hate the fact that they're

841
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,679
doing these things to push your buttons, but don't allow

842
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:48,280
that to cause you to take actions that you're really

843
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:52,280
gonna probably come to regret. So yeah, I'm glad you

844
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,679
mentioned that the tapping. This is the first I've heard

845
00:51:54,679 --> 00:51:58,119
of it from you. Please don't make that mistake, because

846
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:02,960
that wouldn't be any good. The whole the whole phrase

847
00:52:03,639 --> 00:52:07,800
don't start none and won't be none. Well, unfortunately, dog man,

848
00:52:08,639 --> 00:52:12,599
they started. But if you try to do certain things back,

849
00:52:13,199 --> 00:52:15,559
you can cause a lot more harm than good. So

850
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,440
that's what I'm getting at here. But do you have

851
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,519
any of the questions for me about all this? I

852
00:52:20,599 --> 00:52:21,760
might be able to answer for you.

853
00:52:23,599 --> 00:52:27,679
Speaker 1: Well, the point you make about the bullies, I mean

854
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,960
that it does make a lot of sense. Just my

855
00:52:31,119 --> 00:52:33,480
whole life I got growing up like I was never

856
00:52:33,519 --> 00:52:37,000
really want to be bullied. But like whenever, I was

857
00:52:37,079 --> 00:52:39,239
always the type of person, always step in when someone's

858
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:43,320
being bullied because I don't like bullies. And I've always

859
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,360
been the type of pushback. And you know, again they

860
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,800
haven't been. Nothing's tapped on any windows that I know of,

861
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:54,119
but you know, God forbid, I just hope they don't

862
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,519
try and cross that line. And you know, come think

863
00:52:57,559 --> 00:53:03,000
that it's I just want to say, I believe. And

864
00:53:03,159 --> 00:53:06,199
when you know, things happen, you have two options. You

865
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:11,159
can either react, which is typically an emotional response, or

866
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,360
you can choose to respond, and that's the clear ahead

867
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:18,159
of thinking. And I've always been, you know, of that mind,

868
00:53:19,079 --> 00:53:24,039
and you know, I just I hope they don't, you know,

869
00:53:24,679 --> 00:53:28,920
escalate anything, because I'm not I don't really not want

870
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,719
to be pushed around, and because I'll kind of the

871
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,320
type of push back and I don't want to, but

872
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:41,239
I just I'll do my best to keep a clear

873
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,400
mind when it comes to dealing these things, because I

874
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,039
know they're not They're on a whole different plane. It's

875
00:53:46,079 --> 00:53:50,039
not just like dealing with another person's I do realize that.

876
00:53:50,199 --> 00:53:54,440
And pluses, I've got family here and and they have

877
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,519
a whole community right here. My neighbors, like a neighbors

878
00:53:56,519 --> 00:53:58,519
on both sides of me, werein you know, thirty feet

879
00:53:58,519 --> 00:54:02,079
on each side. And and there's actually someone that I

880
00:54:02,119 --> 00:54:04,440
saw comment on your on the previous episode, in the

881
00:54:04,559 --> 00:54:07,320
Tracy Collins, and she actually lives here in the same

882
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,159
community as I do. So if she's listening, you know,

883
00:54:10,199 --> 00:54:17,519
I'm hi, Tracy. But yeah, I just yeah, no, I

884
00:54:18,559 --> 00:54:20,039
just don't think it'd be a good idea for anybody

885
00:54:20,039 --> 00:54:22,840
if they got for them again, we don't know what

886
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,360
they'd like to do. And maybe you just saw me

887
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,360
and decide to, you know, come tear and acting. I

888
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,440
don't know. And I know there was one person that

889
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,440
asked if I was marked. And sometimes it seems to

890
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:37,760
be like a recurring theme, uh with some people who

891
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,199
have these encounters that they tend to have a whole

892
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:45,039
lot more than one. And uh, you know, just keep

893
00:54:45,079 --> 00:54:48,039
our distance and just keep her cool. And I'd rather

894
00:54:48,119 --> 00:54:50,360
go back to where you know, they're just peeking at

895
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,519
you from behind a bush, you know, unbeknownst to us,

896
00:54:53,639 --> 00:54:57,400
and let us go back to that again, because uh,

897
00:54:58,079 --> 00:54:59,840
you know when I used to want to see one

898
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,760
badly a couple of years ago before I seen my

899
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:08,840
first one. I really regret that now at this point.

900
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:13,800
So yeah, I really did not want to. I wasn't

901
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:17,719
expecting that, that's for sure. Oh what, there's something. There's

902
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,559
actually something. I hear something right now. Actually, it sounds

903
00:55:20,559 --> 00:55:24,079
like it's coming along the fence line. Shine a light

904
00:55:24,119 --> 00:55:28,559
on that. I don't know what that is. I don't know,

905
00:55:29,559 --> 00:55:32,679
you know. I think I'll take this back up closer

906
00:55:32,679 --> 00:55:35,440
to the front porch and I don't get up off

907
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:41,639
this back fence line. I hope it's just yeah, yeah, yeah, Now,

908
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:43,840
I haven't seen too many deer here. I've seen a

909
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,639
couple of tracks. I think I'm more likely to see

910
00:55:46,639 --> 00:55:48,920
a hog before I see a deer around this area.

911
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 2: Patrick, I'm so glad you revealed the fact that in

912
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,320
a lot of guys are this way, the fact that

913
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:00,239
you hate being bullied so much. I'm so glad you've

914
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,920
brought that up. If you don't remember anything from the

915
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:07,000
conversation tonight except for what I'm about to tell you,

916
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,800
then I still think it's going to be a good thing.

917
00:56:11,559 --> 00:56:16,360
What I'm getting at here is in Africa, when it

918
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:21,880
comes to lions, their favorite prey animal is a ward hog,

919
00:56:23,159 --> 00:56:27,639
and The reason for that is ward hogs. Because of

920
00:56:27,679 --> 00:56:33,159
their mental makeup. Ward hogs always come back. There's a

921
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:40,679
saying in Africa war hoogs always come back. Well, depending

922
00:56:40,679 --> 00:56:42,639
on what type of a fight, what type of a

923
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:47,960
battle you're in, that can be admirable, but again what

924
00:56:48,079 --> 00:56:50,480
type of fight and battle you're in, it can also

925
00:56:50,559 --> 00:56:54,159
be a very foolish thing to do. Ward hoogs more

926
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:58,360
wardhogs Hogs are killed than any other pre animal that

927
00:56:58,519 --> 00:57:03,320
lions pretty on because of their tendency to fight when

928
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:09,360
they should tucktail and run. So if you don't remember anything,

929
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:13,400
like I said, other than this, this is why I'm

930
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,440
saying it would still be a good thing. Yeah, you're

931
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,480
talking about trying to fight a battle you have no

932
00:57:20,079 --> 00:57:24,000
hope of winning. Now, it sounds like you you you

933
00:57:24,039 --> 00:57:27,239
see the flaws and trying to blast one through the

934
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:31,960
window and everything. But when your quas get going, you

935
00:57:32,079 --> 00:57:35,800
might be If that's how you're already wired, that just

936
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,159
makes you that much more likely to pull the trigger

937
00:57:38,199 --> 00:57:39,519
and do something like that.

938
00:57:39,639 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't I don't want to be the warhog. Yeah, yeah,

939
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:44,679
you're right, I don't want to be. Thank you for

940
00:57:44,719 --> 00:57:48,800
painting that picture. That's very that that that'll stick. Actually,

941
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,480
thank you for saying that, because, yeah, the warhog would

942
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,320
push back and run right back into the jaws. Yeah,

943
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:56,760
that makes a lot a lot of sense. Thank you

944
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,440
for that. Actually, it's a very fine wisdom.

945
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 2: Oh you're welcome, just tony like it is. Yeah, I

946
00:58:04,039 --> 00:58:08,039
can understand. This is really a difficult situation you're in.

947
00:58:08,719 --> 00:58:11,360
I get it. But when you're worked up, you've got

948
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,280
family to protect, or you think you've got family to protect.

949
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,639
But if the dog doesn't have it in its head

950
00:58:16,679 --> 00:58:19,199
to actually try to harm you or your family, then

951
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:21,960
that's mout. That's a moot point. But it might seem

952
00:58:22,039 --> 00:58:25,000
like that's the case, and because it seems that way,

953
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,840
then you might decide to come back of the quote

954
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:31,639
unquote line. But yeah, even when you're worked up, please

955
00:58:31,719 --> 00:58:36,039
don't make that mistake. Please don't come back tucktail, and

956
00:58:37,199 --> 00:58:40,000
don't fall into that trap, because, like I said, that's

957
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,039
one you can't win. I haven't said all that. Do

958
00:58:43,079 --> 00:58:44,960
you have any other questions I might be able to

959
00:58:45,079 --> 00:58:45,800
answer for you?

960
00:58:48,119 --> 00:58:52,159
Speaker 1: Have you heard of anybody like having I mean, I

961
00:58:52,199 --> 00:58:54,599
mean I've listened to pretty much every episode, so I mean,

962
00:58:54,679 --> 00:58:56,760
I guess I would say I've heard of some people

963
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:04,639
having amicable relationship with some of these creatures. I'm sure

964
00:59:04,639 --> 00:59:10,360
that's a very very rare cases that be said. I mean,

965
00:59:10,639 --> 00:59:13,400
I'm not. I mean, I'm more in the camp of

966
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,960
like you know, the one store where the kid goes

967
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,000
out with his three uncles with the dogs, and they

968
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,960
go out to that farmhouse and they put the traps

969
00:59:20,199 --> 00:59:23,880
the windows and they blast them and spread the body

970
00:59:24,079 --> 00:59:26,840
parts across the field to let anything else in there,

971
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:28,960
you know, not to come around they. I'm more in

972
00:59:29,039 --> 00:59:35,639
that camp, but you know, I mean, I might if

973
00:59:35,679 --> 00:59:38,039
I see something like this one taking my dogs. I

974
00:59:38,039 --> 00:59:40,199
take my dogs out every night, usually at least once,

975
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,039
or I mean I take my at least two to

976
00:59:42,119 --> 00:59:44,199
three times a day, but I always take them out

977
00:59:44,199 --> 00:59:46,400
again at night. Another at the door right now, sitting

978
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,840
there looking at me. But I don't really feel like

979
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,440
I'm feeling up to going back to the same spot.

980
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,280
I'm not sure where I'm gonna go now, because I

981
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,599
mean that is right up the street and very accessible.

982
00:59:58,039 --> 01:00:02,719
I mean, if I'm out there walking with my dogs

983
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:08,960
and I'm unarmed, and something like this appears, and my

984
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,920
dogs do take notice, and they take notice of us,

985
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,000
I mean, what would be the best response is to

986
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:17,719
all button back to the car or.

987
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 2: Just no, Nope. The best response is to treated just

988
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,599
like you would a big aggressive dog that you encountered.

989
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,079
If you ran into a grizzly, for example, out in

990
01:00:28,119 --> 01:00:31,880
the woods, treat it the same way. Don't run, don't

991
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:36,119
curl up into a ball either. Just try to make

992
01:00:36,119 --> 01:00:39,039
sure you don't make eye contact with it, don't turn

993
01:00:39,079 --> 01:00:42,559
your back on it, and absconde get out of the

994
01:00:42,639 --> 01:00:46,280
area in a controlled fashion so that you can still

995
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,480
monitor where it's at if it's coming towards you. You

996
01:00:49,559 --> 01:00:51,719
want to be in a position where you can actually

997
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:57,519
know that. So yeah, don't be confrontational, don't be quote

998
01:00:57,599 --> 01:01:01,599
unquote cowardly in its eyes. Just try to get away

999
01:01:01,639 --> 01:01:04,679
from the area in a controlled fashion, and there's controlled

1000
01:01:04,679 --> 01:01:09,199
to the fashion's possible, and I mean ninety nine point

1001
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,360
nine to nine percent of the time you should be

1002
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:14,039
just fine. Now, Like I said, I'm never going to

1003
01:01:14,079 --> 01:01:16,639
say the dog men are safe to be around and

1004
01:01:16,679 --> 01:01:19,199
there's a zero chance that you could run into a

1005
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,039
dangerous one, because there are dangerous ones out there. But

1006
01:01:22,559 --> 01:01:27,400
for the aforementioned reasons, it's clear that is really a

1007
01:01:27,519 --> 01:01:30,239
once in a blue moon type situation when you actually

1008
01:01:30,639 --> 01:01:32,920
do have a situation where a person runs into a

1009
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:36,159
dangerous one. So and I know that there are people

1010
01:01:36,159 --> 01:01:38,760
out there that I've gotten tons of messages over the

1011
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:40,880
year as well. You can't speak to the people who

1012
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:44,599
are slaughtered by these things, VIC and that's true, But

1013
01:01:44,639 --> 01:01:46,559
I'll tell you what I have done. I've spoken with

1014
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:50,360
three four thousand or more people who are in situations

1015
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,679
where they could have been wiped off the face of

1016
01:01:52,719 --> 01:01:56,320
the earth, but they weren't. Even though the dog man

1017
01:01:56,400 --> 01:02:00,280
had every possible chance to do that, they didn't come

1018
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,280
to harm. So that right there tells me that these

1019
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:06,760
guys are not wired to do that. It just boils

1020
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,119
down to you, are they wired to rip people apart

1021
01:02:09,159 --> 01:02:12,199
as soon as the opportunity presents itself or not? And

1022
01:02:12,239 --> 01:02:14,800
if I've spoken with that many people who are allowed

1023
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,199
to leave an encounter without so much as a scratch,

1024
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,800
the answer is they clearly are not wired to rip

1025
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,599
us apart to harm s as soon as the opportunity

1026
01:02:23,639 --> 01:02:26,760
presents itself. That's something that you really need to try

1027
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:28,920
to keep in mind. Again, I know it's so hard

1028
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:32,239
to do when you get caught up on how terrifying

1029
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,559
these things are to look at and to be around

1030
01:02:34,679 --> 01:02:37,440
and everything. I get it. It's not easy at all.

1031
01:02:37,559 --> 01:02:41,079
But these guys they take us off our game. They're

1032
01:02:41,159 --> 01:02:44,280
so good at taking us off our game. That's why

1033
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:47,679
it's so hard to deal with a dog, mean, an encounter,

1034
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:51,119
to think about the possibility of having another one in

1035
01:02:51,159 --> 01:02:54,320
a situation where they might be around your home. Does

1036
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:55,199
this all make sense?

1037
01:02:56,400 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: It does? I mean I've always I mean, I love

1038
01:03:02,159 --> 01:03:06,920
all nature's creatures, and I'm very good, especially with canons,

1039
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:11,880
and good with all animals, especially canon. And I mean

1040
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:15,320
that would be awesome if we can have a an

1041
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:19,280
amicable and peacefully and positive relationship these things. I mean,

1042
01:03:19,519 --> 01:03:22,159
are they wired to kill us? No, because I mean

1043
01:03:22,159 --> 01:03:24,079
there wouldn't be so many people that you talk to.

1044
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:29,920
But uh, you know, are they wired to be friendly?

1045
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:34,280
You know, you know, like a canine pal like we

1046
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,920
have with our dogs. I don't think it's very like

1047
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:41,559
that either, But it's a shame and all I'm terrifying

1048
01:03:41,599 --> 01:03:42,280
at the same time.

1049
01:03:43,519 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 2: Oh, They're definitely not wired to be amicable, affable or

1050
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:50,719
anything like that. No, they're just pains in the butt.

1051
01:03:51,159 --> 01:03:54,199
So yeah, I'll never say that they are either there's

1052
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,840
nothing good about dog men. There's nothing good at all

1053
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,440
about these guys. They're just a huge pain in the butt,

1054
01:04:00,199 --> 01:04:02,800
but they're here. There's nothing we can do about that.

1055
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,480
All we can do is just deal with it. If

1056
01:04:05,519 --> 01:04:08,119
you have an encounter, all you can do is just

1057
01:04:08,199 --> 01:04:11,599
deal with it the healthiest way you can and hopefully

1058
01:04:11,599 --> 01:04:13,760
that's good enough where you can get through and get

1059
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:17,480
by and live your life without being compromised too much

1060
01:04:17,559 --> 01:04:21,039
by it. As totally understandable. Like I told you, Patrick,

1061
01:04:21,079 --> 01:04:23,880
you've been affected the way you have. You never asked

1062
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:27,119
to have these experiences, especially the one you had last night.

1063
01:04:27,559 --> 01:04:31,280
It was just forced upon you. So now all you

1064
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:33,840
can do is just pick up the pieces, try to

1065
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:37,960
remember what's real and not let your imagination do to

1066
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,159
how frightening these things are to look at and to

1067
01:04:40,199 --> 01:04:42,880
be around. All you can do is your best and

1068
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:46,360
not let that knock you off your game and start

1069
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:48,760
thinking about these guys in ways that have nothing to

1070
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:53,199
do with reality. Again, is there a possibility that a

1071
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:58,239
dog man could harm you, kill you? Yeah, it's totally possible.

1072
01:04:58,599 --> 01:05:00,880
There have been several people who have been killed by

1073
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:04,840
these things, but the odds definitely are in your favor,

1074
01:05:05,079 --> 01:05:08,519
So yeah, please do the best you can to remember that. Well,

1075
01:05:08,599 --> 01:05:11,320
having said that, Patrick, I see, it's already an hour

1076
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:14,719
and five minutes that we've been doing this. You're already

1077
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,480
not feeling very good. So I'm about to wrap this

1078
01:05:17,519 --> 01:05:19,360
thing up. But before I do that, do you have

1079
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:22,039
any closing comments you want to put out there for us?

1080
01:05:25,039 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 1: Well, when I first saw that one couple of years ago,

1081
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:33,920
like I felt like I was getting crazy and that

1082
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:38,039
I felt like I was alone. I'm sure plenty of

1083
01:05:38,039 --> 01:05:41,039
people who have had experiences with them probably felt the

1084
01:05:41,079 --> 01:05:49,119
same way. And it really I mean becoming a hyper vigilant,

1085
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:52,719
like almost patrolling the neighborhood area to try and keep

1086
01:05:52,719 --> 01:05:57,440
people safe, you know, and wanting to shout from the

1087
01:05:57,719 --> 01:06:00,679
tree tops you know that these things are here. You know.

1088
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:04,840
I'm sure there's probably some people would scoff and laugh

1089
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:13,679
at you, but I don't know, just be aware, and

1090
01:06:14,199 --> 01:06:19,880
almost even when not being so aware is also almost

1091
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:24,440
like because it ignorance is bliss. It feels like because

1092
01:06:24,719 --> 01:06:27,719
I mean, I want to see one so bad, And

1093
01:06:28,079 --> 01:06:29,679
when I saw that person one, it was almost like

1094
01:06:29,719 --> 01:06:33,039
an answer to you know, you want to see one well,

1095
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:35,920
here I am, and I kind of almost did wish

1096
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:40,480
that upon myself, certainly last night. That was not expected

1097
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:46,840
by any means. And yeah, I don't know. I just

1098
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,360
keep myself from going out of my mind at the meantime.

1099
01:06:50,559 --> 01:06:56,559
And so you're right, I'll remember that Warthogh depiction you

1100
01:06:56,880 --> 01:07:00,360
so well put, you know, pushing back, you know how,

1101
01:07:00,639 --> 01:07:02,159
keep coming back, and they come right back to the

1102
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:05,000
jaws of the line. And I certainly don't want to

1103
01:07:05,039 --> 01:07:09,119
be that. So I'm glad.

1104
01:07:08,679 --> 01:07:11,719
Speaker 2: And I hope you do remember that. I'm sorry to

1105
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:12,519
interrupt you there.

1106
01:07:13,159 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 1: I'll just say that that was that was very well put.

1107
01:07:16,599 --> 01:07:19,920
That was and that's a great analogy. That was a

1108
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:20,400
spot on.

1109
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 2: Well, it's the truth. It's the truth. I was planning

1110
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,039
to get out of here, but before I do, I

1111
01:07:28,079 --> 01:07:29,840
want to share something with you that I think is

1112
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:33,400
going to help. There are seven magic words. I don't

1113
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:36,280
think I shared this with you in our first conversation

1114
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:40,320
there or even our second one. There's seven magic words.

1115
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:43,360
I want you to remember their patrick and those seven

1116
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:49,440
magic words are but they didn't want to hurt me.

1117
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:55,280
But they didn't want to hurt me. I get it.

1118
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:59,400
How terrifying these things are, and how fast they can move,

1119
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:03,000
how strong they are, I mean ripping trees out of

1120
01:08:03,039 --> 01:08:07,440
the ground at times. I mean they're just ridiculously over equipped.

1121
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,119
I get it. They're terrifying us all get out. To

1122
01:08:10,119 --> 01:08:12,480
be around and to have one focusing all of its

1123
01:08:12,519 --> 01:08:15,800
attention on you, and to be at close range. Yeah,

1124
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:19,600
that's just absolutely too much. But like I said, if

1125
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:22,079
you get out of an encounter with a dog man

1126
01:08:22,199 --> 01:08:25,960
or dog men such as in your case, without a scratch,

1127
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,119
especially looking at the encounters that you've had where they've

1128
01:08:29,159 --> 01:08:32,720
been more than close enough to be able to dispatch

1129
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,159
you if they wanted to, it's because they didn't want

1130
01:08:35,159 --> 01:08:37,720
to hurt you. It's because they didn't want to harm you.

1131
01:08:38,239 --> 01:08:41,560
Perfect example, you have a guy contact you tell you

1132
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:41,960
a vicky.

1133
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:42,319
Speaker 1: You know what.

1134
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 2: Twenty years ago, I used to be a true nature nut.

1135
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:48,199
I used to live butted right up against this huge

1136
01:08:48,319 --> 01:08:50,960
national forest, and when I would get bored, I'd go

1137
01:08:51,039 --> 01:08:54,039
for nice long walks in that national forest. Well, one

1138
01:08:54,119 --> 01:08:56,600
day I was off work, didn't have anything to do,

1139
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:58,920
I was bored out of my mind. So I thought,

1140
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,039
you know what, going to go for a nice long

1141
01:09:01,079 --> 01:09:04,119
walk in the forest. So I made a sandwich and

1142
01:09:04,199 --> 01:09:07,520
got some other stuff together, got some water put into

1143
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,359
a container, put all that stuff into a backpack, threw

1144
01:09:10,399 --> 01:09:13,800
the backpack over my shoulder, headed out the back door,

1145
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:17,560
down the steps, across the backyard and into the forest. Well.

1146
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:22,000
I'd been walking for maybe thirty minutes, forty five minutes

1147
01:09:22,079 --> 01:09:24,079
or so vic when all of a sudden, this giant

1148
01:09:24,199 --> 01:09:28,039
werewolf looking thing jumps out from behind this tree. It

1149
01:09:28,119 --> 01:09:30,399
was blacker than black black, and it had to be

1150
01:09:30,399 --> 01:09:33,239
at least every bit of ten feet tall. And it's

1151
01:09:33,359 --> 01:09:35,600
just right in front of me. I mean we're talking

1152
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:38,840
well within grabbing distance, and it's so big. It's just

1153
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:42,279
looming over me, and it's reaching out for me with

1154
01:09:42,399 --> 01:09:46,279
these huge clawed hands. The talons had to be four

1155
01:09:46,319 --> 01:09:48,720
or five inches long, and it would bend over and

1156
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:51,359
snap in my face and snap it them straighten up

1157
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:54,000
and then bend over and snap. It was just horrible.

1158
01:09:54,359 --> 01:09:57,159
And it had these three four inch long lower canines

1159
01:09:57,159 --> 01:10:00,239
and it's huge jaws, and I never will forget had

1160
01:10:00,239 --> 01:10:03,119
these huge globulets of slobbery that were running out from

1161
01:10:03,119 --> 01:10:06,439
between its bottom teeth and hitting the dirt. Pitter pat,

1162
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:09,039
pitter pat. I never will forget the sound of that,

1163
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:12,399
the slobbery globulets hitting the dirt right in front of

1164
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:17,079
my feet. That it was horrible. Well, yeah, sounds like

1165
01:10:17,159 --> 01:10:19,079
it must have been horrible. What did you do?

1166
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:20,079
Speaker 1: Well?

1167
01:10:20,199 --> 01:10:21,640
Speaker 2: I did the only thing I could think of. I

1168
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:24,840
screamed at the top of my lungs. I peed my pants,

1169
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:27,359
and I collapsed in a heap at his feet and

1170
01:10:27,399 --> 01:10:30,319
curled up into the fetal position. Well, yeah, I can

1171
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:33,159
understand you doing that, But when you did that, what

1172
01:10:33,279 --> 01:10:36,520
did it do? Oh? He just turned around and walked

1173
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:40,640
off into the trees. I never saw him again. Wow.

1174
01:10:41,039 --> 01:10:43,960
Now you want to talk about a dangerous, deadly, monstrous

1175
01:10:44,079 --> 01:10:46,560
killing machine that I'll rip you apart as soon as

1176
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:50,319
the opportunity presents itself. Here this dog man had you

1177
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:54,960
dead nuts to rights. What did it do? It didn't

1178
01:10:55,159 --> 01:10:57,840
give you so much as a scratch, It never harmed

1179
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:00,840
a single hair in your head, walked off into the

1180
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:04,000
trees and disappeared. You never saw it again. You tried

1181
01:11:04,039 --> 01:11:07,079
doing that, You try collapsing right in front of a mountain,

1182
01:11:07,079 --> 01:11:11,560
grizzly bear or a tiger, and you come back and

1183
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:13,840
tell me how that works for you. They'll kill you

1184
01:11:14,319 --> 01:11:17,600
because they are killers. But that dogged me and approved

1185
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:21,039
with the zone actions that he didn't want to hurt you.

1186
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:24,880
So for the past twenty years you told me about

1187
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,800
Mike that you can't sleep right, you can't eat right,

1188
01:11:28,359 --> 01:11:31,880
You've lost all these jobs because of all these mental

1189
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:36,479
issues you're dealing with because of that encounter. It's because

1190
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:40,119
and it's not your fault, but it is because you've

1191
01:11:40,279 --> 01:11:44,319
assessed that encounter incorrectly. All this time, you had it

1192
01:11:44,359 --> 01:11:49,279
in your mind that somehow you got away or you

1193
01:11:49,359 --> 01:11:52,479
were in the presence of this deadly, mindless, monstrous killing

1194
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:55,000
machine that had it in its head it wanted to

1195
01:11:55,039 --> 01:11:57,840
rip you apart well a proof of his zone actions.

1196
01:11:58,039 --> 01:12:02,600
It didn't want to do that. O Mike Patrick, there

1197
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:05,800
are seven magic words that I want you to remember,

1198
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:09,439
and from now on, anytime you start thinking about your

1199
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:14,000
encounters Patrick in ways that have nothing to do with reality,

1200
01:12:14,239 --> 01:12:17,560
I want you to recall them and save them out loud.

1201
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,560
And those seven magic words are again. I'll save them again.

1202
01:12:21,039 --> 01:12:25,399
But they didn't want to hurt me again. They proved

1203
01:12:25,399 --> 01:12:29,119
that with their own actions. Now I should ask you

1204
01:12:29,159 --> 01:12:31,600
to qualify when it comes to this encounter you had

1205
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:34,960
last night. How sure are you that if it really

1206
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:36,920
wanted to get to you, even though it had that

1207
01:12:37,039 --> 01:12:40,359
compromised back leg, that you were close enough to your

1208
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:42,880
car you said it was thirty feet behind you, that

1209
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:45,840
there's no way it could have actually gotten to you

1210
01:12:46,039 --> 01:12:48,840
if it really wanted to get to you that time. Again,

1211
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,159
like I said, I'm pretty sure it's been around your house,

1212
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:54,239
but that night, as far as that night goes, how

1213
01:12:54,279 --> 01:12:57,880
sure are you that it couldn't have gotten to you?

1214
01:12:57,960 --> 01:12:58,560
No matter what.

1215
01:13:00,319 --> 01:13:03,399
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure if it kept on going as I'm

1216
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:05,359
trying to peel off, it would have been at the car,

1217
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:08,319
reaching in and trying to grab at me and my dogs.

1218
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:12,279
And you're right, you know, but it didn't want to

1219
01:13:12,319 --> 01:13:17,560
hurt me. And I don't understand why. I mean, they've

1220
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:23,279
got all the tools to do so. It just that's

1221
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:25,600
one of the hardest things to wrap your mind around,

1222
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:28,439
just after already wrapping your mind around the fact that

1223
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:32,439
these things exist, then for them just to do that

1224
01:13:33,039 --> 01:13:34,560
and then just turn around a walk away like that,

1225
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:38,600
just it makes no sense to me. And it's just crazy.

1226
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,840
And I guess I'll have to I'll be hard pressed

1227
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:45,720
to to to forget that. I mean, I don't. I'll

1228
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:47,840
make sure I keep that in mind. And that and

1229
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:53,159
the word hog analogy. Yeah, I don't, I don't get it.

1230
01:13:54,359 --> 01:13:57,279
Speaker 2: Please do keep all these things in mind. It's going

1231
01:13:57,359 --> 01:13:59,680
to take time for you to really process all this.

1232
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:02,560
You didn't really need this much help until this encounter

1233
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:05,880
happened last night, so it's going to take time for

1234
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,880
all this to sink in. But please do just kick

1235
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:11,439
it over in your head time and time again to

1236
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,039
try to let it sink in. And once it has

1237
01:14:14,119 --> 01:14:17,239
sunk in, and especially remember those seven magic words to

1238
01:14:17,279 --> 01:14:20,000
snap you back to reality. Then you'll be in a

1239
01:14:20,039 --> 01:14:23,159
situation where you can deal with all this in a

1240
01:14:23,199 --> 01:14:25,640
healthy way. I know you can do it. It seems

1241
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:30,199
like an insurmountable and insurmountable goal, but you can definitely

1242
01:14:30,239 --> 01:14:32,680
do it. You really can't. It's just going to take time.

1243
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, and I think we can learn to.

1244
01:14:40,199 --> 01:14:43,880
I'm just really thankful that my kids haven't been terrified

1245
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,520
or anything. I mean, I'm sure we talk about anything

1246
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:48,840
spooky because we like to play. We go on these

1247
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:51,880
scary walks in the woods at night, sometimes with the friends,

1248
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:55,399
and because we enjoy it and take a spotlight or

1249
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:57,439
something like that. And I'm usually armed, but you know,

1250
01:14:57,479 --> 01:15:01,880
have our dogs just to enjoy that. The range of

1251
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:04,520
emotions that we have going through it, and everyone's always

1252
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:09,119
excited and happy and feeling good afterwards. It's a you know,

1253
01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:12,119
it makes your second guess that choice of doing that

1254
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:16,760
now after these encounters. You know, I don't know if

1255
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:19,600
I want to do that so much now, but I

1256
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:21,479
don't want it to stop me from doing the things

1257
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:26,079
I love and being nature's you know, that's what brings me.

1258
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:30,640
You know, my constant, you know, my mind is doesn't

1259
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:33,199
like to shut off. But when i'm nature and if

1260
01:15:33,239 --> 01:15:37,239
I'm out there and the calm, quiet, or from fishing,

1261
01:15:37,319 --> 01:15:40,079
like those things what helps bring peace and helps me

1262
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:44,560
relieve distress. And I don't want it to take that

1263
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:45,760
away from you. I'm not gonna let it.

1264
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:51,159
Speaker 2: Well that's good, that's really good. Remember you hold all

1265
01:15:51,279 --> 01:15:54,319
the cards. You control how much all this affects you

1266
01:15:54,399 --> 01:15:57,720
and how much it doesn't. So I know it's easier

1267
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:01,319
said than done, but you are in total control of that.

1268
01:16:02,119 --> 01:16:05,600
So right now, you've been knocked so far off base

1269
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:07,880
because of the shock and the tiar of what you've

1270
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:12,039
experienced that it is expected you're not going to do

1271
01:16:12,159 --> 01:16:17,960
well at keeping the chaff from affecting you. But over time,

1272
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:20,840
as you can process all these things we've talked about,

1273
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:24,960
it should get easier and easier. So please remember you're

1274
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:27,520
never going to be alone in this. You've always got help.

1275
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:30,359
If you ever need help with this in the future,

1276
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:32,119
all you have to do is just reach out to

1277
01:16:32,119 --> 01:16:34,199
me and let me know. And you already know I'll

1278
01:16:34,239 --> 01:16:36,640
be there for you, so please never forget that.

1279
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Vick.

1280
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:43,159
Speaker 2: Oh, you're welcome. Well. Having said that, thanks again so

1281
01:16:43,239 --> 01:16:46,680
much for coming back on there, Patrick, And remember you've

1282
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:48,439
always got help if you ever need it.

1283
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1284
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:54,720
Speaker 2: You're welcome. Now. Easier said than done, but try to

1285
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:59,800
have a good night. I will all right, great, I'll

1286
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:00,680
talk talk to you later.

1287
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:03,600
Speaker 1: Good night, everybody.

1288
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:08,720
Speaker 2: All right, that's another one in the books. If you've

1289
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:11,399
had a dogman encounter that you need help with, please

1290
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:14,800
go to dogmandancounters dot com submit a report, and if

1291
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:16,960
you do that, then I'll be more than happy to

1292
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:19,920
schedule a phone consultation with you. That way I can

1293
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:21,880
find out what happened to you as far as your

1294
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:25,079
encounter goes or encounters might go, and we'll take it

1295
01:17:25,079 --> 01:17:27,720
from there. If you want to be a guest on

1296
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:30,239
the show, then we can always do that, but of

1297
01:17:30,279 --> 01:17:33,359
course there's never any pressure to do so. But having

1298
01:17:33,399 --> 01:17:35,840
said that, thanks again so much for listening to everyone.

1299
01:17:36,039 --> 01:17:52,520
I really appreciate it, and of course have a great night.

1300
01:18:00,039 --> 01:18:01,359
I s.