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We are 28 00:03:15.919 --> 00:03:22.199 live today, live in studio. Good morning to you. That's right, Lee, 29 00:03:22.479 --> 00:03:26.240 my hype lady over here. We do have a new 30 00:03:26.479 --> 00:03:30.759 show on our CAPS YouTube channel, just came out yesterday. 31 00:03:31.759 --> 00:03:35.759 It is a paranormal episode. We went to investigate the 32 00:03:35.879 --> 00:03:41.319 wash Shira County Historical Museum and jail and it was 33 00:03:41.879 --> 00:03:44.520 such a big investigation. We had five team members on 34 00:03:44.560 --> 00:03:48.759 this and it was god over eight hours ten hours 35 00:03:48.800 --> 00:03:52.400 of investigating there that day, and the episode actually had 36 00:03:52.400 --> 00:03:55.159 to get broken into two parts. So part one is 37 00:03:55.199 --> 00:03:57.639 out now and part two will come out in January. 38 00:03:57.639 --> 00:03:59.759 If you're interested in the paranormal and stuff. 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We are going to 72 00:05:49.360 --> 00:05:52.480 be at the Contact Modalities Expo May first through the 73 00:05:52.519 --> 00:05:57.519 third in Delavan, Wisconsin, Cryptid's Anomalies, and the Paranormal Convention 74 00:05:58.000 --> 00:06:01.759 Saturday May ninth in Fondale, Wisconsin. Tickets for that go 75 00:06:01.839 --> 00:06:05.120 on sale January first, as well as the second round 76 00:06:05.480 --> 00:06:10.519 of guest, speaker and workshop announcements. And June thirteenth, we 77 00:06:10.560 --> 00:06:14.800 are going to be at the Chicago Paranormal Convention in Countryside, Illinois, 78 00:06:15.399 --> 00:06:18.319 and of course all the way out in October, I'm 79 00:06:18.360 --> 00:06:21.160 going to be at the Belleville Public Library, one of 80 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:23.879 the three UFO capitals of Wisconsin. 81 00:06:24.759 --> 00:06:25.360 There you go. 82 00:06:25.480 --> 00:06:28.040 All kinds of fun stuff coming up here for twenty 83 00:06:28.160 --> 00:06:32.319 twenty six. But right now we have an awesome guest 84 00:06:32.399 --> 00:06:35.319 waiting in the wings, so let us get to that. 85 00:06:51.560 --> 00:06:54.800 My guest out today's show is Danielle Becker. He is 86 00:06:54.839 --> 00:06:59.879 originally from Newark, Ohio and currently residing in Anchorage, a Last. 87 00:07:00.560 --> 00:07:03.160 He is a cryptid researcher and the host of the 88 00:07:03.199 --> 00:07:08.360 show Cryptid Wilderness Research podcast with Matt Sleader. He is 89 00:07:08.480 --> 00:07:12.399 also the founder of Crypted Wilderness Research Network, which links 90 00:07:12.439 --> 00:07:17.759 together researchers for investigation cooperation. Together with his partners William 91 00:07:17.920 --> 00:07:21.360 Lunsford and Stephen Hill in Arkansas, they explored the world 92 00:07:21.439 --> 00:07:25.120 of Bigfoot, dog Man and other cryptid mysteries. Daniel has 93 00:07:25.120 --> 00:07:28.959 spoken at the Nebraska Bigfoot Conference in Grand Island, Nebraska, 94 00:07:29.000 --> 00:07:32.600 as well as the Anchorage Museum in Anchorage, Alaska, and 95 00:07:32.639 --> 00:07:37.879 now he joins us live in studio. Please welcome Daniel Becker. Daniel, 96 00:07:37.879 --> 00:07:38.600 welcome to the show. 97 00:07:39.879 --> 00:07:41.720 Hi, great to see you, Thanks for having me. 98 00:07:42.399 --> 00:07:43.360 Awesome good to have you. 99 00:07:44.279 --> 00:07:44.439 Ah. 100 00:07:44.720 --> 00:07:48.759 You come very highly recommended from William Lunsford, so he 101 00:07:48.800 --> 00:07:51.639 spoke very highly of you when he came on our show, 102 00:07:51.720 --> 00:07:54.079 so I want to reach out and have you on 103 00:07:54.120 --> 00:07:54.600 my show. 104 00:07:56.639 --> 00:07:59.199 Well, thank you. I appreciate William Lunsford is a troublemaker. 105 00:07:59.399 --> 00:08:02.360 Just like to say that right off the bat. He is. 106 00:08:03.199 --> 00:08:06.000 William Lunsford is one of the people that I consider 107 00:08:06.560 --> 00:08:10.800 a field general in the area of cryptid research. 108 00:08:12.560 --> 00:08:15.759 He's a very wealth of knowledge, so very good to 109 00:08:15.759 --> 00:08:16.800 have him on as well. 110 00:08:16.879 --> 00:08:18.319 So awesome. 111 00:08:18.360 --> 00:08:22.560 Well, what got you interested in all this cryptid stuff 112 00:08:22.600 --> 00:08:24.519 in your podcast and investigating? 113 00:08:26.279 --> 00:08:29.680 Well, like so many others in this field, I was 114 00:08:30.480 --> 00:08:33.759 inspired at a very young age by watching the reruns 115 00:08:33.799 --> 00:08:37.519 of In Search of and you know, it's a story 116 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:40.480 you've heard lots of times before, but from other researchers, 117 00:08:40.519 --> 00:08:44.639 of seeing the Patterson Gemlin film on those reruns. And 118 00:08:44.840 --> 00:08:47.320 so when I saw that as a kid, I was 119 00:08:47.399 --> 00:08:52.879 immediately intrigued, and I started asking questions, and and I thought, 120 00:08:52.919 --> 00:08:55.320 you know, who better to ask a question to than grandma. 121 00:08:55.360 --> 00:08:58.559 You know, Grandma's always got great stories. So I asked, 122 00:08:58.559 --> 00:09:02.559 my grandma, have you ever heard a bigfoot of? You know, 123 00:09:02.639 --> 00:09:05.720 I saw it on TV? And and my grandma was 124 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:08.960 raised way way way back in the hollers in Kentucky, 125 00:09:09.759 --> 00:09:14.519 just across the Ohio River, and she told me a 126 00:09:14.559 --> 00:09:21.919 story about a bigfoot that that was active near her 127 00:09:21.960 --> 00:09:24.440 home out in the country and would come into people's 128 00:09:24.480 --> 00:09:30.840 gardens and steal vegetables. And later on in life, I 129 00:09:30.840 --> 00:09:33.639 had an opportunity to go back there in the holler, 130 00:09:34.039 --> 00:09:37.559 as they say, and actually see the area that she 131 00:09:37.759 --> 00:09:41.879 was talking about, and you know, her old home was there. 132 00:09:41.919 --> 00:09:45.519 Of course, it was abandoned, and this place was way 133 00:09:45.960 --> 00:09:49.879 way way back in the hills. And like I said, 134 00:09:49.879 --> 00:09:51.879 she had told me a story about a bigfoot that 135 00:09:51.960 --> 00:09:54.279 had come in there and would steal vegetables from their 136 00:09:54.279 --> 00:09:56.919 garden and also the neighbors. And once she told me 137 00:09:56.960 --> 00:09:59.360 that story, I was I was all in. 138 00:10:01.879 --> 00:10:02.320 Very cool. 139 00:10:02.360 --> 00:10:06.279 We actually had an encounter in southern Wisconsin and the 140 00:10:06.360 --> 00:10:09.360 lady said that they were coming down and stealing vegetables 141 00:10:09.360 --> 00:10:11.120 and then they would throw them from the top of 142 00:10:11.159 --> 00:10:12.159 the hill down at. 143 00:10:12.039 --> 00:10:13.279 Her while she was in the garden. 144 00:10:14.000 --> 00:10:18.279 So very very a lot of garden stealing going on, 145 00:10:18.399 --> 00:10:20.039 I guess. 146 00:10:20.080 --> 00:10:20.759 Interesting. 147 00:10:21.120 --> 00:10:23.919 Yeah, it was. It was really fascinating. And when I 148 00:10:23.960 --> 00:10:28.360 finally got to go out to that area and see 149 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:31.279 where it all happened, even as a kid, you know 150 00:10:32.039 --> 00:10:36.000 it was it was far more isolated back in the 151 00:10:36.080 --> 00:10:38.720 hills than I imagined. I thought it would just be 152 00:10:38.840 --> 00:10:41.320 like a town like you know, where I was from. 153 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:45.559 But and I had never seen a place so isolated 154 00:10:45.600 --> 00:10:48.639 back in so far back as where they have little 155 00:10:48.679 --> 00:10:52.679 family cemeteries long since forgotten by time. You know, places 156 00:10:52.799 --> 00:10:56.159 a place like that, you know, wow. 157 00:10:57.480 --> 00:10:58.000 Interesting. 158 00:10:58.600 --> 00:11:02.559 So she did she have any other like vocals or 159 00:11:02.559 --> 00:11:05.399 anything else that she had heard, or just the stealing 160 00:11:05.399 --> 00:11:06.440 of the vegetables. 161 00:11:06.840 --> 00:11:10.039 She did tell me that they would hear strange noises 162 00:11:10.080 --> 00:11:13.639 coming from the woods at night, but that's pretty much 163 00:11:14.000 --> 00:11:15.919 all I was able to get her to talk about 164 00:11:15.960 --> 00:11:18.840 was the story about the vegetables and the strange noises 165 00:11:18.879 --> 00:11:23.960 that would come in. And it wasn't hard to hard 166 00:11:23.960 --> 00:11:26.480 to envision once I got out there and got to 167 00:11:26.480 --> 00:11:27.799 see the area for myself. 168 00:11:29.399 --> 00:11:31.360 That's really cool that you got to actually go back 169 00:11:31.399 --> 00:11:33.120 and see it. A lot of times, you know, you 170 00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:36.080 hear these stories and growing up in that and you 171 00:11:36.159 --> 00:11:38.200 just have this, like like you said, in vision of 172 00:11:38.240 --> 00:11:40.080 you know, on the edge of town or something where 173 00:11:40.200 --> 00:11:43.240 you think that the story took place, and adding that 174 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:45.879 extra element of being able to see the real location 175 00:11:46.120 --> 00:11:49.399 and going there adds so much more to these stories. 176 00:11:49.480 --> 00:11:53.519 And able to visualize the actual what happened and the 177 00:11:53.600 --> 00:11:57.200 behavior and stuff of these creatures, it helps to understand 178 00:11:57.200 --> 00:11:57.720 a lot of that. 179 00:11:59.440 --> 00:12:04.279 Yeah, and that story I started, of course. You know, 180 00:12:04.399 --> 00:12:07.120 you go to the school library next and you start 181 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:10.639 looking for every book you can find about Bigfoot, and 182 00:12:11.399 --> 00:12:15.000 there I think I found one in the school library, 183 00:12:15.000 --> 00:12:21.600 but it really wasn't anything of substance, but I started. 184 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:26.480 You know, I'll go back to the first experience in 185 00:12:26.519 --> 00:12:29.240 the woods as a kid. I remember is being in 186 00:12:29.279 --> 00:12:31.960 the Cub Scouts and going to a place we called 187 00:12:31.960 --> 00:12:35.759 Camp Falling Rock. And out of Camp Falling Rock, I 188 00:12:35.879 --> 00:12:39.200 was at the opportunity to go on on trails through 189 00:12:39.200 --> 00:12:42.919 the woods and things, and and all the other kids were, 190 00:12:43.080 --> 00:12:46.159 you know, looking at the trees and you know, et cetera. 191 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:49.600 But I was secretly looking for bigfoot tracks while we 192 00:12:49.600 --> 00:12:50.240 were out there. 193 00:12:51.879 --> 00:12:54.559 Now, you you grew up in Ohio, right, like all 194 00:12:54.600 --> 00:12:55.759 that was in Ohio. 195 00:12:57.240 --> 00:13:00.600 Yeah, I am originally from a town called Newark, Ohio, 196 00:13:00.679 --> 00:13:04.159 and you know, Newark, Ohio will always be home, no 197 00:13:04.159 --> 00:13:06.519 matter how many years it's been. But I actually had 198 00:13:06.519 --> 00:13:10.240 to go to high school in the Detroit area, so 199 00:13:11.039 --> 00:13:14.559 I kind of went jumped back and forth and from 200 00:13:14.559 --> 00:13:20.320 Ohio to Michigan. In my explorations, I was gonna say, Ohio, 201 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:23.559 you know, growing up there, you got so much bigfoot activity. 202 00:13:23.600 --> 00:13:25.320 I mean, like I would I would think it's like 203 00:13:25.360 --> 00:13:28.480 one of the top I think five states for bigfoot sightings. 204 00:13:29.840 --> 00:13:33.519 I'm not it actually is. And when I got older 205 00:13:33.519 --> 00:13:36.360 and I started diving into the academics of it, I 206 00:13:36.440 --> 00:13:39.799 was very surprised to find out that Ohio was right 207 00:13:39.919 --> 00:13:42.320 up there in the top for sightings. And that's when 208 00:13:42.360 --> 00:13:47.000 I discovered places like Salt Fork and and other areas. 209 00:13:47.039 --> 00:13:49.639 So I was I was surprised to discover that Ohio 210 00:13:49.759 --> 00:13:51.919 was so was so high up there on the. 211 00:13:51.879 --> 00:13:56.200 List when you were going up to Detroit and stuff 212 00:13:56.200 --> 00:13:59.039 like that, Were you obviously into these cryptids and stuff 213 00:13:59.039 --> 00:14:00.960 at that time? You know, there's a lot of like 214 00:14:01.159 --> 00:14:04.200 dog man stuff up in that area of Michigan. Were 215 00:14:04.200 --> 00:14:06.240 you interested in that as well? Or when did that 216 00:14:06.320 --> 00:14:07.600 kind of trickle in? 217 00:14:10.639 --> 00:14:13.519 Not so much where I was in Michigan because I 218 00:14:13.559 --> 00:14:16.360 was in city, you know, and so there wasn't a 219 00:14:16.360 --> 00:14:20.799 lot I could do there. And at the time I 220 00:14:20.879 --> 00:14:25.279 had never heard of dog man and but I found 221 00:14:25.320 --> 00:14:28.320 out later that Michigan is a big state for for 222 00:14:28.440 --> 00:14:35.159 dog man sightings. And I wasn't really sold on the 223 00:14:35.519 --> 00:14:40.600 on the dog man phenomenon until going out in the 224 00:14:40.600 --> 00:14:44.440 research area down in Arkansas with my partners down there, 225 00:14:44.440 --> 00:14:49.200 William Lunsford and Steven Hill, and they had found tracks 226 00:14:49.279 --> 00:14:54.159 and they had our game cameras down there. Let me 227 00:14:54.519 --> 00:14:59.080 jump into Arkansas. So the research area down there is 228 00:14:59.080 --> 00:15:01.879 called Ground zero. That's that's what we call it. And 229 00:15:02.000 --> 00:15:05.639 I also called this place the Amazon of America because 230 00:15:05.799 --> 00:15:10.399 the woods are so thick that you could literally step 231 00:15:10.440 --> 00:15:13.840 in their five feet and vanish. So it doesn't take 232 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:16.600 long to realize that, you know, there could be anything 233 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:19.039 in those woods. Now, I wasn't really sold on the 234 00:15:19.080 --> 00:15:22.759 dog Man phenomenon until I started going out more in 235 00:15:22.919 --> 00:15:26.639 Arkansas with my partners down there, and they had had 236 00:15:26.679 --> 00:15:32.440 captured images on game cameras and and found tracks and 237 00:15:32.440 --> 00:15:36.279 and actually had you know, first hand accounts, and they 238 00:15:36.320 --> 00:15:40.519 were really the ones that that sold me on that, hey, 239 00:15:40.600 --> 00:15:43.559 dog Man actually exists, you know, because I kind of 240 00:15:43.600 --> 00:15:45.440 just brushed it off. I'd heard about it, brushed it 241 00:15:45.480 --> 00:15:49.480 off in the past. But but that's really where the 242 00:15:49.519 --> 00:15:54.279 dog Man things started setting in with me, is seeing 243 00:15:54.279 --> 00:15:57.960 the evidence down there. And you know, William and I 244 00:15:58.000 --> 00:16:01.200 spoke at the Nebraska big Foot Conference this past April, 245 00:16:01.600 --> 00:16:06.000 and I was surprised that quite a few audience members 246 00:16:06.039 --> 00:16:08.600 had questions about dog Man. It seems to be popping 247 00:16:08.720 --> 00:16:11.559 up a lot more on the on the cryptid map 248 00:16:11.720 --> 00:16:15.919 as of late, and I was actually summer before last. 249 00:16:15.960 --> 00:16:19.240 Sometimes I put the logo of our podcast, I have 250 00:16:19.279 --> 00:16:21.240 an auto magnet, and sometimes I put it on the 251 00:16:21.279 --> 00:16:24.039 door when I'm out doing stuff. And I was sitting 252 00:16:24.080 --> 00:16:27.679 at a stoplight here in Anchorage and there was a 253 00:16:27.759 --> 00:16:30.120 truck next to me, and the people in the truck 254 00:16:30.159 --> 00:16:33.559 next to me yelled out, hey, have you ever heard 255 00:16:33.559 --> 00:16:36.720 about dog man sightings in Michigan? I guess they were 256 00:16:36.720 --> 00:16:38.679 from Michigan. And obviously where I have stoplight, we didn't 257 00:16:38.679 --> 00:16:40.919 get a chance to really interact a lot, but I said, 258 00:16:40.960 --> 00:16:43.600 actually yes, and they're like, have you ever seen one? 259 00:16:44.240 --> 00:16:45.960 I say, no, I have not seen one, but I 260 00:16:46.000 --> 00:16:48.080 have talked to people who have. So this dog man 261 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:50.320 phenomena seems to be coming up a lot more as 262 00:16:50.360 --> 00:16:51.639 of weight. Have you noticed that? 263 00:16:52.240 --> 00:16:52.399 Oh? 264 00:16:52.440 --> 00:16:54.720 Absolutely, yeah, yeah. 265 00:16:54.759 --> 00:16:57.279 I try and bring more guests on because like it 266 00:16:57.320 --> 00:17:01.440 seems like the amount of bigfoot researchers is off the chart, 267 00:17:01.559 --> 00:17:04.720 Like if you throw your pin on Facebook, you can 268 00:17:04.720 --> 00:17:07.640 find those pretty easily. But there's there's not so many 269 00:17:07.680 --> 00:17:10.920 people that focus in on, you know, the dog man phenomenon. 270 00:17:10.920 --> 00:17:13.359 But even so, the dog man is you know, if 271 00:17:13.720 --> 00:17:17.319 there's one hundred bigfoot researchers, there's probably fifty of them 272 00:17:17.880 --> 00:17:20.039 that are into the dog man stuff. And then when 273 00:17:20.039 --> 00:17:22.359 you get to the other stuff like the lake monsters 274 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:25.240 and other weirder stuff, and that it drops off very 275 00:17:25.240 --> 00:17:28.559 substantially off of that as well. But there's more and 276 00:17:28.599 --> 00:17:32.240 more people having dog man sightings coming forward, and I 277 00:17:32.319 --> 00:17:36.160 think it's, you know, like with Bigfoot being more and 278 00:17:36.319 --> 00:17:41.759 more acceptable to talk about, it seems like since that 279 00:17:41.920 --> 00:17:46.359 has fallen way down that now the dog man stuff is, well, 280 00:17:46.359 --> 00:17:49.519 if we can talk about Bigfoot, there's another thing that 281 00:17:49.559 --> 00:17:51.599 I you know, saw in the woods, and we're starting 282 00:17:51.640 --> 00:17:53.599 to get more and more of those sightings come forward. 283 00:17:53.680 --> 00:17:59.599 So, yeah, excellent point. Excellent point. And where you are 284 00:17:59.720 --> 00:18:02.240 in the Midwest, obviously you're just a hop, skip and 285 00:18:02.279 --> 00:18:06.640 a jump from Michigan, and they're also up near the 286 00:18:06.720 --> 00:18:11.039 up of Michigan there in Wisconsin. Are you hearing more 287 00:18:11.079 --> 00:18:13.319 stories from that particular area. 288 00:18:14.839 --> 00:18:17.839 Not necessarily from Michigan, but we you know, we have 289 00:18:17.920 --> 00:18:20.720 the Beast of Bray Road here in Wisconsin, down in Elcorn, 290 00:18:20.920 --> 00:18:24.160 and we get quite a few sightings around the horror 291 00:18:24.160 --> 00:18:29.640 Con Marsh area, which is kind of middle lower of 292 00:18:29.680 --> 00:18:31.960 the state and then down in the lower part of 293 00:18:31.960 --> 00:18:34.799 the state. But most of the stuff that we get 294 00:18:34.799 --> 00:18:38.000 for dog man is kind of like a little cross 295 00:18:38.039 --> 00:18:41.720 across the bottom of that area of the southern area, 296 00:18:41.799 --> 00:18:45.720 but a few up north, but not too much. It's 297 00:18:45.759 --> 00:18:48.839 all kind of central centralized in one area of our 298 00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:50.920 state for as far as where I'm getting reports and 299 00:18:50.920 --> 00:18:51.440 stuff from. 300 00:18:51.480 --> 00:18:58.000 But interesting, our game cameras in Arkansas have picked up 301 00:18:58.519 --> 00:19:02.119 things that we just can't expec lane but have canine 302 00:19:02.240 --> 00:19:05.599 like features to it. And we've sound We've found some 303 00:19:05.640 --> 00:19:11.799 pretty big canine like tracks there as well. And with 304 00:19:11.799 --> 00:19:15.359 with our game cameras down there, you know, we've got 305 00:19:15.400 --> 00:19:18.079 them on trees, yes, but we've got them hidden in 306 00:19:18.119 --> 00:19:21.839 brush piles. We've got them hidden all over the place. 307 00:19:21.880 --> 00:19:27.200 And cameras that are are cross you know, cross gritting. 308 00:19:27.279 --> 00:19:30.200 And you know, the the the bigfoot are creative and 309 00:19:30.240 --> 00:19:33.079 you have to be creative too, and actually the cryptids 310 00:19:33.160 --> 00:19:35.880 are creative. You have to be be creative too. So 311 00:19:36.359 --> 00:19:39.519 you know, we're very strategic in how we place our 312 00:19:39.559 --> 00:19:42.279 game cameras. And you know a lot of people who 313 00:19:42.319 --> 00:19:45.000 are not familiar with bigfoot research think that, you know, 314 00:19:45.039 --> 00:19:47.440 you're just putting the game cameras back on the tree 315 00:19:47.680 --> 00:19:50.640 and et cetera. No, no, no, you know, you've got 316 00:19:50.680 --> 00:19:52.640 to be creative about it. If you're gonna if you're 317 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:53.480 gonna get anything. 318 00:19:54.720 --> 00:19:56.880 One of the best things that some researchers have come 319 00:19:56.920 --> 00:19:59.960 on to the show and talked about is putting game 320 00:20:00.200 --> 00:20:04.960 cameras buy a river's edge or even out like right 321 00:20:05.000 --> 00:20:07.440 in the middle of the river, because you have so 322 00:20:07.599 --> 00:20:09.640 much stuff going on there. You have the sound of 323 00:20:09.680 --> 00:20:12.920 the river could mask the sound of potentially you know 324 00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:15.680 what these creatures are hearing. With the game cameras, you 325 00:20:15.720 --> 00:20:18.599 have the smell of the river and the changing things 326 00:20:18.680 --> 00:20:21.599 like that that mask the smell of these things being 327 00:20:21.720 --> 00:20:25.680 human in the area, and you have everything needs water, 328 00:20:25.880 --> 00:20:28.559 so you have a massive amount of animals and creatures 329 00:20:28.599 --> 00:20:30.359 and stuff that are coming down to the water. So 330 00:20:30.880 --> 00:20:32.920 I think that the best place, you know, look at 331 00:20:32.920 --> 00:20:36.519 look at you know, past research, the Patterson Gimlin footage 332 00:20:36.519 --> 00:20:39.680 and a lot of the other footage that seems legitimate 333 00:20:39.839 --> 00:20:42.960 has been captured either right on a river or right 334 00:20:43.000 --> 00:20:45.359 by the river banks and stuff. So it makes a 335 00:20:45.359 --> 00:20:47.279 lot of sense that you're able to kind of sneak 336 00:20:47.359 --> 00:20:50.359 up and get a get a jump on these things 337 00:20:50.480 --> 00:20:53.200 using the rivers and streams and stuff that make a 338 00:20:53.200 --> 00:20:56.000 lot of noise and have movement as kind of a 339 00:20:56.000 --> 00:20:57.119 way to camouflage. 340 00:20:59.400 --> 00:21:02.799 Yeah, putting game cameras and hiding game cameras near water 341 00:21:02.839 --> 00:21:06.359 sources fantastic idea. You know, goes all the way back 342 00:21:06.359 --> 00:21:08.440 to the legend of Buggy Creek and that they follow 343 00:21:08.480 --> 00:21:12.400 the waterways, you know. So absolutely fantastic idea. And like 344 00:21:12.440 --> 00:21:14.440 I said, you got to be creative about it, got 345 00:21:14.480 --> 00:21:17.000 to be creative about it. Are actually my favorite game 346 00:21:17.000 --> 00:21:19.559 camera that we have is actually inside of a tree, 347 00:21:20.279 --> 00:21:22.359 you know. And if you we actually have a little 348 00:21:22.440 --> 00:21:26.480 video on TikTok of this where William is actually demonstrating 349 00:21:26.559 --> 00:21:29.720 how he changes out the SD card. But I think 350 00:21:29.759 --> 00:21:33.240 that's my favorite one, you know. But some of our 351 00:21:33.279 --> 00:21:36.200 cameras are, like like I said, in brush piles, you know. 352 00:21:36.400 --> 00:21:40.240 And one of the things about the Arkansas research is 353 00:21:40.640 --> 00:21:47.720 there are snakes and rattlesnakes, copper heads. Our area is 354 00:21:47.839 --> 00:21:52.319 just infested with snakes. And so I'm not too keen 355 00:21:52.599 --> 00:21:56.640 about reaching my hand in a brush pile, and so 356 00:21:56.720 --> 00:21:59.279 I leave that up to my partner. Experts who grew 357 00:21:59.359 --> 00:22:02.160 up there know how to deal with snakes, and they 358 00:22:02.200 --> 00:22:05.559 know how to how to manipulate that brush and get 359 00:22:05.599 --> 00:22:06.880 those cameras out of there. 360 00:22:08.000 --> 00:22:10.559 Yeah, I would not be too keen reaching into that 361 00:22:10.640 --> 00:22:15.519 pile either. Luckily, Wisconsin doesn't have any indigenous poisonous snakes, 362 00:22:15.680 --> 00:22:18.319 and there are some some that like kind of migrate 363 00:22:18.359 --> 00:22:20.599 through the state, but we don't have any of that here. 364 00:22:20.720 --> 00:22:23.480 So we're very lucky and fortunate to you know, put 365 00:22:23.480 --> 00:22:27.240 our hands in whatever we want almost But yeah, I've 366 00:22:27.279 --> 00:22:32.680 tried actually the uh kinda. We took a log and 367 00:22:32.839 --> 00:22:35.920 carved it out and put a trail camera in there, 368 00:22:36.640 --> 00:22:38.920 and I got a bird and some other stuff. I 369 00:22:38.960 --> 00:22:43.680 got a really weird hair pattern on one picture, like, 370 00:22:44.160 --> 00:22:46.279 and then the log was knocked over, so it could 371 00:22:46.319 --> 00:22:48.359 have been a bear or something. It looked like longer 372 00:22:48.799 --> 00:22:52.359 hair fur on whatever creature this was. But as far 373 00:22:52.359 --> 00:22:54.720 as like getting it to take a nice clear picture, 374 00:22:54.759 --> 00:22:58.359 it didn't. But anybody that watched, I think it was 375 00:22:58.799 --> 00:23:01.319 maybe last week's episode of Weekend before I had Michael 376 00:23:01.400 --> 00:23:06.039 James on and he was talking about these three sixty 377 00:23:06.559 --> 00:23:11.680 stealth cameras, and it just so happens that I had 378 00:23:11.720 --> 00:23:14.200 him on. I had it was a prerecorded episode, had 379 00:23:14.240 --> 00:23:16.680 him on, and like a day or two later, I 380 00:23:16.680 --> 00:23:20.240 went to Walmart and there was one on clearance, So 381 00:23:20.440 --> 00:23:22.519 I got this one for seventy five dollars. It's one 382 00:23:22.599 --> 00:23:25.960 hundred and fifty dollars camera. But anybody that didn't watch 383 00:23:26.000 --> 00:23:28.640 the episode it it has motion sensor all the way 384 00:23:28.680 --> 00:23:32.160 around and the camera will spin and take a three 385 00:23:32.240 --> 00:23:37.200 sixty photo whenever something is triggered. So it's it's a 386 00:23:37.240 --> 00:23:40.240 really cool camera. It goes on like a stake instead 387 00:23:40.240 --> 00:23:42.839 of like a mounted to a tree. But and it's 388 00:23:42.839 --> 00:23:45.119 got like Wi Fi and stuff so that you can 389 00:23:45.359 --> 00:23:46.799 send it to your phone in that as well. 390 00:23:46.839 --> 00:23:49.759 But I don't know. I haven't tried it yet obviously. 391 00:23:49.440 --> 00:23:53.519 But nice, Nice, You're definitely definitely gonna have to give 392 00:23:53.559 --> 00:23:56.279 me some feedback on that on that camera there, and 393 00:23:56.759 --> 00:23:59.480 let me know how it is. If you end up 394 00:23:59.480 --> 00:24:03.119 recommending it, I'll grab myself a couple. But the cameras 395 00:24:03.160 --> 00:24:08.599 that I've had up here in Alaska have have disappeared. 396 00:24:10.240 --> 00:24:15.240 They've either been stolen or ripped off off the trees 397 00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:19.519 by animals or or who knows, even a bear, you know, 398 00:24:19.559 --> 00:24:23.359 because obviously we have a rather large bear issue up here. 399 00:24:23.880 --> 00:24:27.359 So but yeah, let let me know how those those 400 00:24:27.680 --> 00:24:30.400 that camera works out. I'd love to hear the feedback. 401 00:24:31.039 --> 00:24:33.640