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the best beat writers in the state of Utah.

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Boots on the ground. They're in or Lando. We got

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Speaker 4: I'm Brett. It's always a pleasure to be on with

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you guys, especially when I know you could have gone

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the LJ. Martin of the BIU Beat. I know you

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could have gone to Jack Kelly of the BYU Beat.

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But when those guys are hurt, it's a pleasure for

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the jovetic community of the BYU be to be joining you.

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Speaker 2: Sean.

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Speaker 1: Here's the real boots on the ground journalism question that

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we need answered about Orlando. We heard that there was

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a little taste test situation going on with deep fried

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poptarts and all kinds of other crazy stuff, and as

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someone who was not there, I need you to tell

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me how unreal that experience was and how many different

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types of pop tarts you had.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna beleave the fifth on this question for the

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most part, but I will tell you this, Brett, how

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many types of pop tarts that I have? The answer

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is way too many, way too many for those who

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a gluten free lifestyle. I was diagnosed with a gluten

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allergy several years ago. Life changing, game changing and everything

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of the world, but being gluten free might be the

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worst thing possible for a bowl game sponsored by the great,

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the one, the only, uh are gods of the college

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football world, the pop Tarts. So yes, I did indulge,

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and no, I will not be commenting further on what

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Speaker 2: I won't comment either.

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Speaker 3: I know what happened with those I can confirm there's

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a source close to the program that told me that

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Sean Walker did divulge in one deep fried pop tart.

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Speaker 4: The deep the deep fried pop Tarts. Though, if you,

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if you get an opportunity, do it, do it. Don't

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even think about it, just go uh do it. I'm

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actually a little bit jealous of the Michigan and the

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Texas reporters this week because the Pop Tarts Bowl and

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the Citrus Bowl, excuse me, the cheese at Citrus Bowl.

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get a cheese it breaded turkey lake, so a turkey

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just gonna use two words to describe that worth it. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: What I want to know is like, how special were

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these deep fried pop starts? Like, if I have a

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deep friar at home? Am I able as the layman

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Speaker 1: Could I reh reinvent those?

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Speaker 2: Could I make one of those at home?

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so the pop arts who actually have and maybe this

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is a little bit of capitalty journalism, they have specialty

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chefs for a lot of their pop tarts bolt specific creations,

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so it's more than just deep fried pop tarts. They

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pop tart turned into uh, I guess it's a parfait

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my favorite one. But they have, like they have like

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specialty chefs for all of these things. So could you

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defry a pop tart at home? Yeah, would it be

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the same. I don't know. I don't know how good

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a deeper Maybe you're maybe you're a professional deep fryer. Brett.

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say go for it, question Mark. But I would definitely

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Speaker 1: Well, my my in laws gave me a deep fryer

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for Christmas. Let's see how many days ago, five or

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six days ago, So that'll tell you.

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Speaker 2: How much of an expert I am.

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Speaker 1: But I just saw something like that, and I'm like,

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that is so disappointing that that that I can't partake

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and I can't dry. So I'm glad to know that that,

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despite things trying to hold you back, Sean, you still

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did journalism to the best of your simple ability by

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partaking in hop Tarts.

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Speaker 2: We will we want you to know.

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Speaker 4: All in the name of good journalism.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of good journalism, you did some good journalism. Wonderful

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piece at you, Pindo kissl dot com. B Yu gets

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that twelfth win shot of the season in the Pop

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Tarts Bowl. First time It's happens to two thousand and one.

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spring ball? With that twelfth win, especially with all the

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chaos right now going on at b YU with coaches,

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coaches may be making moves for their future.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think in the agent the transfer portal,

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of a misnomer nowadays because rosters changed for the transfer

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portal coaching rosters change so much during the carousel season.

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expect this roster at BUYU this past fall to be

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to be the same next year as it was this year.

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I do think they'll retain some players. I also think

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they're gonna lose some players. They've already got about five

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or six that are in the transfer portal right now,

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and I think more probably the follow cover your ears,

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Cougar fans if you don't want to hear that, But

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that's just the reality of modern college football. The transfer

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portal giveth and the transfer portal also take it away,

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right So if you want to go and kind of

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stock up and and figure out new additions to your roster,

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you've got to be willing to maybe lose a piece

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or two in order to kind of give that away.

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so the transfer portal kind of serves as that mechanism

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in addition to to college football's own version of free agency.

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But as far as momentum goes, I think what Kline

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Sataki and his team did this season will give it

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as much momentum as you can probably as you can

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possibly have in this sport nationally, maybe short of you know,

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whichever one of the teams the quarterfinals start tomorrow, so

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which every one of those teams goes on and wins

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the college with the twenteen College football playoffs. You you know,

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it was a out a month ago that BYU was

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on the precipice of losing its head coach and Kline

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Sataki reportedly working on a deal to go to Penn

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State for an eight figure salary. BYU and its donors

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and administrators and even just average everyday fans and several

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of the players that kind of rallied and they kept Sataki,

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and that decision, I think is going to give this

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team as much momentum as you can possibly get because

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there are going to be players that stay at BYU

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hoping to build off of what they were able to

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do this past season twelve and two. Overall, they only

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lost one team this year they lost lost Tech Tech twice. Right,

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it's the most wins in a single season since two

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thousand and one, only the fifth or sixth time in

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program history that BYU's reached that twelve win plateau. And

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there are players that want more, and they want to

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come back, and they want to do more at BUYU.

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We saw almost immediately after the bull get that tree.

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Alexander is coming back. I believe. I believe The caption

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on this Instagram post was was it said somebody to

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the effect of committed to bring up Young University. So

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he's trading it for the long haul. You know, he's

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not just following a coach or playing for a coach.

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He wants to be at YU. Specifically, Kanu Tonavasa sounded

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pretty sure of himself. I don't want to take away

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too much thunder from him, but he's not pretty sure

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of himself. But Kianu Tonavasa wanted to come back for

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another year. I'd be surprised if bart Bachmeier left barring

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you know, something unforeseen that we haven't seen, right, now

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and when you're able to build off of what that

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true freshman starting quarterback did. I think that'll help. I

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got some holes to fill there, especially in the interior

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with departures of guys like Wale and Lapojo. I think

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that will be significant. I say Jada as well. These

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are all just players that are that are out of

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the eligibility. But I think when you're looking at momentum,

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it's very hard to get that year to a year

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in the modern era of college football. And BYU is

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doing as good of a job as anybody can in

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building off of itself year over year over year, and

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I expect that to continue, mostly because the headman, Klaie Sataki,

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is in charge for the long term, foreseeable future.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like BYU is maybe disadvantage is the

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wrong word, but they're in talks. I mean, we know

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the Jay Hill rumors going around, other coaching rumors going around.

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Do you see that affecting BYUS capability to pull in

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high level talent with the transfer portal window about to open.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, as long as there are question marks, I think

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it will affect BYU's capability. But again, remember the transfer

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portal give it and the transfer port will also take

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it away. There are players on other teams that are

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gonna want to play at BYU for whatever connection that is.

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out of high school in the recruiting game. Maybe it's

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somebody that they missed out even one or two times

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in the transfer portal already that are pop it back

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up into the portal. Maybe that's somebody that we're not

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even thinking of right now, Like they are going to

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be players that want to play at BYU. So I

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think there are a lot of question marks right now

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just because we don't know what they's coordinator situation is

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going to look at at the moment. But I also

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expect those question marks to if they don't fully solve themselves,

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will be a peer picture will be a lot clearer

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by the time that portal window opens on January second.

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Remember this is the only transfer portal window that college

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football will have this year. It's one fifteen day windows

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starting January second. There is no post spring window. That's

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that's a new thing. As voted on by I think

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you're seeing the coaching carousel market kind of expedite itself

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to the point where, you know, we're on the precipice

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of the college football playoff quarterfinals and there are currently

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at the moment, I believe there is not a single

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head coach opening in all of Division one FBS football.

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I mean, that's absolutely remarkable for right now. But because

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so many universities kind of win the overdrive during the

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season and then immediately following the end of the regular

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season to where they want to have somebody in place

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right away. Now, does that mean there won't be more

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changes in the go to market. Absolutely not. I even

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think we're probably going to see, if nothing else, at

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least one or two more head coaching changes, probably somebody

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that winds up leaving January February. Maybe the NFL goes

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and pulls somebody from the college ranks up to the NFL,

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and then that sets off kind of a mini coaching carouself,

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if you will. But I do think the by is

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going to have a much clearer picture in the next

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forty eight or seventy two hours, by the time that

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January second window opens, just like everybody else, because that's

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when you really have to get going on this new

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version of free agency.

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Speaker 1: This is kind of a speculative question, but I I

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just I'm just thinking out loud here. I'm curious to

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know what that portal is gonna look like, Sean, Like,

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are we gonna have like are we gonna see just

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a flood of people committing on Friday?

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Speaker 2: Or do you think what's more likely is.

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Speaker 1: That we get till that last day because everybody is

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gonna wait until those final offers come in, and so

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we're really not going to get answers from most people

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until the end of that portal.

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Speaker 4: Brett Hammer, are you implying that there may be college

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football programs and coaches who have been contacting players before

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the official opening of the transfer pot.

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Speaker 1: I would never assume anyone in college football would do

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anything underhanded like that, Sean, especially not the SEC.

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Speaker 4: There's there's a word. There's a word for that. It

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starts with the key is that it's tambourine, camberine, temptation, temptation. Yeah,

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I can't remember the exact word. Yeah, temptation, maybe it's

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probably temptation.

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Speaker 2: Tempting.

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Speaker 4: No, we all know how we all know how the

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system works. Right, Guys, there are guys that are in

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the portal or that are excuse me, intending to go

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into the transfer portal, let me get my nomenclature right

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at this very moment, that are also entering the portal

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with a little thing called the DNC. I do not

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contact TACK. So they have a pretty good idea of

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where they want to go, whether that's for nefarious reasons

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or just simply that you know, they there's one place,

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that one or two places that they want to go to,

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and they want to be in charge of kind of

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making those conducts themselves. I'm not really here to say

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I think it probably works both plays, but but I

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would tend to agree with your first point, Brett, that

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I think the majority of this transfer portal window action

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is probably I don't know if that happens in the

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first hour or two that the portal is open, but

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in the first day or two I could see the majority,

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certainly more than fifty percent of transfers starting to take place.

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Because you do have this little thing, and I'm gonna

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say a piece that I know college football fans don't

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like talking about little much, but there is still a

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college part of college football, and most universities in this

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country are on the semester system, where these football players

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do also have to enroll in their new college buy

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or around the start of their new college semester. So

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like yes, there are quarter systems, there are late semester

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starts at a handful of universities in the country, but

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for the most part, we are also still working on

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an academic calendar, and so I think there is there

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are legitimate but legitimate and maybe slightly less legitimate reasons

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for the portal comaginations to be wrapped up earlier rather

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than later in that cycle. And I think that's also

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another part of the reason why coaches are so adamant

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that they only work in one transfer portal window per year.

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That doesn't be players won't be able to transfer afterwards.

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There are always ways around it. Look at how Jake

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Retzov moved from DYU to Tulaine last summer. I mean

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that didn't above a transfer portal window or technically a

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transfer at all, So there are still ways around it.

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But I do think that kind of like signing periods,

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and we just saw with the early signing period, I

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think the bulk of those transactions will be accomplished within

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the first day or two, and then you know, maybe

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a couple of big names will kind of trickle through

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the rest of that fifteen day window and you'll see

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sort of the trickle down effect from some of those transfers.

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early rather than later. For sure, you'll.

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Speaker 3: Definitely see it sooner rather than later. I definitely agree, Sean,

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let's go this whole portal talk coach. It changes all

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of that could happen. I need to know who are

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the candidates to replace ja Hill if he does decide

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to even go to Michigan, And obviously I know those

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candidates could change it depending if he takes personnel staff

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with him. He's totally allowed to take whoever you want.

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That's how it goes in the nature of college athletics

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and coaching carousales. But please tell the listeners who are

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the candidates, because I don't know if people really know

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who's going to replace him. I think people just think

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it could be internally, but I've also maybe hurt externally

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as possible as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the number one candidate to be BYU's

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defensive coordinator right now, because nothing is official, nothing has

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been formally pushed over the line, it's still J Hill.

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I think BYU wants to keep J Hill. They want

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to do everything they possibly can to retain J Hill.

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and the press release isn't dry if you will, I

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think that means that the YU is still trying to

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do everything possible to retain Jay Hill. So we need

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to start there. But obviously there are reports, there are rumors,

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there are some anonymous sources that are floating out there.

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I've been able to confirm a couple that there are

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legitimate talks between Jay Hill and Michigan, and it seems

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like things are trending in that direction for Jay to

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follow his former defensive coordinator Kyle Whittingham to Ann Arbor.

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So in that case, I think you probably stayed within

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the within the building. First, the first call, if I

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had my brothers about me to be the next defensive

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coordinator at b YU would be the Gernaro Guildford. I

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think you're here talking about a former byu quarnerback a

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guy who loves the university. Remember, Gernaro is a guy

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who uh he didn't grow up a member of the

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l S Church. He he he still he hasn't converted

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to the church's Juice Christ of letterte fame, so he's

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still a non member of the church. But he also

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loves b YU. Him and his wife are raising a

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family in Utah County. They really love, uh kind of

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the area and the watch front and and and the school.

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This is a guy who he he was kicked out

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at b YU during his playing days and rather than

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leave and go elsewhere it finished his career in another

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part of the country. He actually came back and then

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came back again during his coaching career on Klanie Sadaki's staff.

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So I think a guy like Genero Guildford absolutely deserves

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a chance to be a defensive coordinator. He's in Jay

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hills right hand man for the past three years. He's

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been passing game coordinator for the past two years under Satake,

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And I think if you want some form of continuity

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amid a coordinator change, I think that's probably the looks

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there are also a couple of other internal candidates that

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may get a look. Gary Anderson comes to mind. He's

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a defensive guy, and remember it was Gary the klanis

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followed from Utah to Oregon State as a defensive coordinator

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for a year before he got the BYU jobs, so

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the two of them are really close. Questions remain about

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whether or not Gary would want that position. He seems

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pretty content kind of doing what he's doing. Is sort

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of an assistant defensive line coach, defensive specialist. It's a analyst,

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and and he likes having a little bit of extra

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time to spend with his kids and his grandkids and

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and that sort of thing. So there are plenty of

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questions on both sides around him. But I could see

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other internal candidates as well, maybe getting a look or

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a snatch. Justin Ena or Fion Pool. I think Uh

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definitely stand a chance externally. There are two guys that

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I probably keep a really legitimate eye on. The First

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one is Sean Nuall. He's former BYU defensive stand out

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currently the linebackers coach at USC. I think he probably

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deserves at least a call the c if he's interested

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in coming home, and maybe running his own defense and

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working with Kilane. I think Seandaula would be great, and

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the other one I mentioned. It would be maybe a

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little bit of a step down for him in terms

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of title, but you could probably give him a step

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up and pay and prestige and everything else. That would

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be Utah Tech head coach Lance Anderson Lanz. Anderson developed

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just an incredible reputation as one of the best recruiters

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on the West Coast when he was at Stanford, spent

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a decade with the Cardinal, eventually rose to become the

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defensive coordinator under David Shaw there. So he knows how

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to run a Power Conference defense. He knows how to

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do more with less. Sometimes because of Stanford they're academic restrictions.

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He's currently the head coach in Utah, tex So he's

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just right down the road right now. He's only been there.

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He's just barely wrapped up his second is his second season.

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I think the Trailblayers just went two in ten, so

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he's still building there. But that may be worth a

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phone call as well at somebody who knows how to recruit,

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who knows how to run a good defense, and is

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certainly used to Power Conference life on the West Coast.

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That could maybe be another kind of shoulder for Clonie

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Satake to Leon in the coordinator room.

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Speaker 1: So I think things did interesting with the guy you

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brought up first, with Jennaro Guildford, because if he does

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get a call, if Jay decides to go and BYU says, hey,

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how you feel about DC?

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Speaker 2: What if Jay Hill calls and says, hey.

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Speaker 1: You want to come with me to Michigan, and then

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Gennaro's in this weird position where he's either taking the

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title of defensive coordinator at BYU, which is an incredible job,

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incredibly or you go with the prestige, the big ten,

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the aura that comes with coaching the defense at Michigan

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and knowing that the head coach at Michigan is only

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going to be there for so much longer. Maybe j

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Hill sides into that spot and then maybe Gennaro becomes

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the defensive coordinator in Michigan. I think if Gennaro gets

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both of those phone calls, he's in a really tough position.

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Speaker 4: Sean Yeah said, and then don't doubt the aura of Michigan.

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I mean, this is one of the top five jobs

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in college football nationally. It's not only a power to

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conference member, but it is among the best of the

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best in terms of branding, in terms of winning capabilities,

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I believe it's it's the winningest or second winningest program

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in football subdivision history. They've got seven or eight national

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champion in ships, some of them disputed, but we don't

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need to go into all that with the history of

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college football. So but but the brand, the Michigan brand,

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is extremely real. There is a reason why Kyle Whittingham

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essentially came out of retirement to take that job right

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within days of stepping down at Utah. Uh u In

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contacted him and he even told us on Sunday. He

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told reporters that that was probably one of four or

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five jobs that he would have considered after stepping down

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at Utah. He didn't want to just go anywhere uh

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coach just to coach, if you will. He wanted to

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be very picky. He wanted to be very choosy. Michigan

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was certainly on that list. It's on the short list.

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It's on a shortlist for a lot of jobs nationally,

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and I think there is real power in that brand.

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Uh that even a school like BYU and even for

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a a former player and now coach like Geronnaro Guildford,

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who loves BYU as much as he does, could struggle

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to say no to that kind of a job, to

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that kind of prestige, to that kind of a launching point,

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because it's not just you know, maybe putting himself in

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line to be a DC or even future head coach

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at Michigan. But once you're a position coach and maybe

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even he makes a move over with a little bit

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of extra pay and and the passing game defense, passing

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game coordinator title, that kind of thing. Once you're in

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that system, then all of a sudden you're being looked

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at for other big ten and SEC jobs when their

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openings down the line. For uh, say, I'll use one

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of Ron Weaver's favorite teams. For the Illinois of the

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world or the Purdues of the world don't go to

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produce in general, but those times, yeah, yeah, you know, uh,

481
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you know, the Iowas, the South Carolina is, the maybe

482
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even the Florida states of the world, like they're looking

483
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at guys that are in that Michigan, that Ohio state,

484
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that Alabama type of system, just just because that's where

485
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coaches kind of come up and they breed themselves and

486
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they're they're really proving if they can handle the highest

487
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levels of college football. So I think moving to a

488
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school like Michigan is very good for one's career. And

489
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that's why, Yeah, I do agree with you Brett that

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that I think all of these decisions are really really

491
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tough to make, and you can't fully say one way

492
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or the other until he is formally dry on the

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press release.

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Speaker 2: You can't say anything.

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Speaker 3: Look, I think the longer it, like you said, Sean,

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the next forty eight to seventy two hours, I mean,

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that would put us at New Year's Day of the second.

498
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But I mean, if we're talking about after the first

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day of the portal January third, BAE Basketball's season opener

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against Kansas State, if nothing's finalized by the end of

501
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that game in the day, I mean, look, this can

502
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get done on any day of the week. You'd have

503
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to think the longer this goes on, the more likely

504
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it is that Jay Hill stays. Look, everybody's been been

505
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saying and trying to be funny about it, Shawn, you

506
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and I have discussed it.

507
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Speaker 2: I think we've heard about it.

508
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Speaker 3: Fans want Jay Hill to tweet out that Leonardo DiCaprio

509
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mean that he's a he's uh, he's not going somewhere

510
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maybe whatever that is in LDS terms. I don't know

511
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if that's a j Hill type of thing to do,

512
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if that were to be him. Don't watch Look, you

513
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can't swear and watch bad movies until you get back

514
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from your mission, guys. I always say that's that's the rule.

515
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You have to serve the mission first. Deb able to

516
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do that, do not watch that movie where that meme

517
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is from. I watched it the other day because I

518
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had never seen it, and oh my goodness, but you

519
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have to have you know, you have to be balanced

520
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in all things. Anyway, The point is, the longer this

521
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goes on, Sean, does that benefit be why you all

522
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get you out of here?

523
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Speaker 2: On that?

524
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Speaker 4: Uh? I mean, I don't know if it benefits if

525
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it really benefits b YU one way or the other. Like, yeah,

526
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I think they'd probably prefer to have something like this

527
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wrapped up sooner rather than later, and again certainly before

528
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that portal window opens. But I think b Yu's got options.

529
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I think they've got guys. I think they've got places

530
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that they can turn to, even assuming that Jay Hill

531
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moves on takes some Michigan job or or or even

532
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somewhere else. I think Byu has options. I think Kilane's

533
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built up a very strong network that he can kind

534
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of tap into and still out his roster and remember

535
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of the defensive side, especially since we're talking about Jay

536
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Hill in particular. Kilane's a defensive coach. Everything that has

537
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happened at BYU defensively has been under his watch. He

538
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takes pride. Yes, I know he's a form of LEU

539
00:27:24,279 --> 00:27:26,559
fall back, but he's been a defensive guy for pretty

540
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much his whole coaching career. He's built systems that are

541
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very successful at Utah, at Oregon State, now at BYU.

542
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The reason why J Hill J Hill was a fantastic coach.

543
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I don't want this to sound like I'm denigrating his

544
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role at all, because I think Jay was certainly kind

545
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of the playmaker, the tactician, the mastermind, if you will,

546
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behind the defense for the last three years. But he's

547
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been doing it all within Kilanie's system. And that's why

548
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I think it was so important that Byu made sure

549
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to hold on to Kilane's stocky about a month to

550
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go for situations like this, so that they can still

551
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have the basic framework in place, you know, so that

552
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so that the house was still standing even if you

553
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know the big chair was coming out of the living

554
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room or the table was being replaced in the dining room, uh,

555
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or you know they had to go and get a

556
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new TV. That house, that's still that basic framework of

557
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the b YU football program is still there. And and

558
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that framework right now is clinic Stocky.

559
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Speaker 3: The framework is Kalona Chittaki. It's there, no doubt about it.

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Shown before we let you go. Where can the listeners

561
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find your work? Where can they follow you on xit

562
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to get all of your content covering.

563
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 4: The coops uh, KSL dot com, ksel dot com, slash sports,

564
00:28:42,759 --> 00:28:44,599
if you want a direct link, you can head on

565
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,039
over there. Uh. We got Uh. It's more than just

566
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b YU two. We've got boots on the ground right

567
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now down to the Las Vegas bull for Morgan Scalley's

568
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opener as a head coach of the Utes. If anybody

569
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wants to kind of get a peek in there as well.

570
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We're following the transfer portal like crazy. Actually just really

571
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updated my portal tracker h right now with some of

572
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the latest names over there. But we've got, like I said,

573
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a whole bunch of everything, So go give us a follow.

574
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Checks out over at kasl dot com, check.

575
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Speaker 3: Them out at casser dot com. Follow him on x

576
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as well. Sewn was boots on ground at the Poptarch

577
00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:20,559
Bowl and got a couple of nice UH stickers that

578
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he had pinned to maybe his laptop or to Hi.

579
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Might be able to confirm that later on. Sources tell me, though, Shawn,

580
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thanks you Tom today.

581
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Speaker 4: Brother.

582
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Speaker 2: We'll catch up with you soon. Travil safe.

583
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Speaker 4: I'm not cool enough to put them on my wallet though,

584
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I'm just I'm not cool enough to put on my wallet.

585
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Thanks God, I don't know what.

586
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Speaker 2: I don't know what he's talking about. Sources do not

587
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confirm it.

588
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Speaker 3: But anyway, Uh Sean, we will catch up with you soon, brother,

589
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Blaine Anderson coming up.

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Speaker 2: Next to be in studio and a little bit of

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a special guest.

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Speaker 3: I was just told Capa Cata of the b O

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A men's basketball team will also join us next as well,

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right here on one O three nine.

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Speaker 2: In ninety eight three

