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<v Speaker 1>Monster House presents.

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<v Speaker 2>The Monster Talk is combining forces with the popular skeptical

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<v Speaker 2>events to find your way onto Braving the Bermuda Triangle

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<v Speaker 2>a Skeptoid adventure. It's actually quite unlike anything we've ever

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<v Speaker 2>seen before.

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<v Speaker 3>A giant, hairy creature part Ape part Matt in Luckness,

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<v Speaker 3>a twenty four mile long bottomless lake in the Highlands

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<v Speaker 3>of Scotland, get the creature known as the Luckness Monster.

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<v Speaker 3>Monster Tall.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Monster Talk, the science show about monsters. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>Blake Smith and I'm Karen Stolsner. Hey, they're Monster Talkers.

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<v Speaker 2>So we did an end of the year live stream

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<v Speaker 2>last weekend. This episode is an audio rebroadcast of that

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<v Speaker 2>without the movie pictures that you would see on the YouTube.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been a hectic week for me as I wind

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<v Speaker 2>out my holiday break. I got a ton of work

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<v Speaker 2>done on my technology book. I worked on rearranging my

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<v Speaker 2>recording studio. I built a new writer's corner so I

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<v Speaker 2>can hopefully focus on finishing my first draft this winter.

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<v Speaker 2>And I started trying to teach my kids to drive.

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<v Speaker 2>I built some shelves for what I'm calling Cosplay Corner,

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<v Speaker 2>a place that will encourage my children to make their

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<v Speaker 2>own stuff instead of buying everything online. I finished recording

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<v Speaker 2>season four of In Research of with Jeb Card, though

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<v Speaker 2>there's lots of editing to do. I cleaned out my garage.

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<v Speaker 2>I helped my parents with some electrical issues, and I

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<v Speaker 2>completely rearranged my bedroom furniture. Now, why am I telling

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<v Speaker 2>you all this? Because what I didn't do was save

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<v Speaker 2>enough time to edit this episode, so I'm having to

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<v Speaker 2>post it as is. And I can't remember if we

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<v Speaker 2>said any naughty things that would warrant an explicit tag.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think we did, but I don't know, So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm airing on the side of caution and I'm slapping

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<v Speaker 2>the explicit tag on this episode just in case. But

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<v Speaker 2>don't be disappointed if you find there's nothing too naughty

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<v Speaker 2>in the content. I'm sure we'll have Ken Faeder on

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<v Speaker 2>again soon enough. We hope to do more of these

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<v Speaker 2>live episodes in twenty twenty five, and we definitely enjoy

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<v Speaker 2>it when you good folk are able to join into

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<v Speaker 2>the chat and discussion. So stay tuned and I'll try

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure you get a invite ahead of time.

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<v Speaker 2>Now here's our previously recorded more.

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<v Speaker 4>Obstrutal exactly what we are live.

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<v Speaker 2>We are live, excellent? All right, Hi everyone, it was live.

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<v Speaker 4>It's still said setting up your meeting, but we know

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<v Speaker 4>it's live.

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<v Speaker 2>But we know it's live. This is all being recorded,

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<v Speaker 2>and so anything embarrassing, Oh is there something on my nose? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Ultra professional, ultra visial.

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<v Speaker 1>That's us.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome the Monster Chop.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome everybody, Welcome to our twenty twenty four Year and

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<v Speaker 4>Review episode. I'm Matthew Baxter, and sitting with me is

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<v Speaker 4>Blake Smith. Hey, doctor Karen Stoles.

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<v Speaker 2>Now hi, all right, I'm going to try to join

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<v Speaker 2>the chat without messing everything up locally, hopefully hopefully. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>here we go. Well, hey, I'm in all right, cool,

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<v Speaker 2>We're able to chat and we're able to talk. So

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<v Speaker 2>thanks for joining us, everybody. This is our twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four year in review.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we wanted to fit in one more of these

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<v Speaker 1>live shows, and we do want to do them more frequently.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just difficult sometimes to rally the troops, isn't it,

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<v Speaker 1>to get proverbials together? But we'll try and do more

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<v Speaker 1>of things again.

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<v Speaker 2>It's true. It's true that that's one of our mini

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<v Speaker 2>goals of twenty twenty five, which we'll talk about if

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<v Speaker 2>we go along.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well, it's been a good year in a year

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<v Speaker 1>in some ways, but in terms of Cryptids and Monster Talk,

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<v Speaker 1>I think collectively we've achieved a lot. We've done a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of interesting things and lots of fun topics and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff outside of Monster Talk too. I guess everything is

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<v Speaker 2>We're trying to do things weekly w ee k l y,

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<v Speaker 2>but not weekly w e A k l y.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, you know, and I think were succeeding because

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Karen Blake and I were talking before you

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<v Speaker 4>came on that. I think Monster Talk is having a

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<v Speaker 4>really good impact on everybody because, as you know, Karen,

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<v Speaker 4>you and I were doing a search for like the

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<v Speaker 4>top ten you know, cryptid sightings, the top ten paranormal

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<v Speaker 4>things that happened in twenty twenty four, and every time

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<v Speaker 4>we started the video, it would go this first video

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<v Speaker 4>in twenty eighteen or shot in twenty nineteen. It demonstrates

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<v Speaker 4>that not much happened in twenty twenty four because Monster

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<v Speaker 4>Talk was teaching science.

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<v Speaker 2>Also because I've been out killing cryptids with my guns, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So oh yeah, that makes me think of that story

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<v Speaker 1>that we read about today. Yeah, it can be the

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous wope to go out and do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, we had We went almost all

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<v Speaker 2>year without anybody dying from bigfoot hunting. But right here

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<v Speaker 2>at the end, you want to talk about that a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit because that's still it's very sad because I

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<v Speaker 2>think looking for bigfoot is a very fun thing to do,

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<v Speaker 2>even though I don't think you're going to find a bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great way to get out in the wild unless.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know all the details, Matt don't Collidier.

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<v Speaker 4>I did not get an opportunity to read it. It's

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<v Speaker 4>been a crazy day. Yeah, I've been trying to hang

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<v Speaker 4>a TV in the basement. I've been trying to clean

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<v Speaker 4>up the garage. So yeah, no, I did not get well,

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<v Speaker 4>I did read the article.

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<v Speaker 2>My recollection, without fact checking, is that it was two

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<v Speaker 2>Oregonians who went out just before Christmas and that didn't

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<v Speaker 2>return on Christmas Eve when they were expected, and sadly

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<v Speaker 2>they both died of exposure to the cold, which is

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<v Speaker 2>very unfortunate, and I'm very sorry to hear about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm always sorry to hear about people's deaths. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when people are out doing something that is fun and mysterious,

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<v Speaker 2>it's especially impactful for me considering how many stupid things

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<v Speaker 2>I've done in this field. So yeah, yeah, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean there are certainly dangers, whether it's ghost

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<v Speaker 1>hunting or for big food or you know, whenever people

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<v Speaker 2>No, certainly not. But on a more pot note, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean over the course of twenty twenty four, we covered

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of stuff. I mean I was just looking

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<v Speaker 2>back at the list. Vampires, ghosts, conspiracies, dog man, archaeological hope.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to read the whole list, but boy,

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<v Speaker 2>go to monster talk dot org and check out the

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<v Speaker 2>year because it's we've We've covered a lot of neat stuff. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's an impressive collection of things that

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<v Speaker 1>we've covered. And I think doing the show weekly, not

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<v Speaker 1>w E A K L L Y, but weekly, I

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot more topics that we want to cover.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think we want to go into our bucket

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<v Speaker 1>list stuff for next year a little bit at some

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Absolutely, that's a great idea.

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<v Speaker 4>But you, Matt, you're going to say something, Well, I

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<v Speaker 4>was just gonna say I noticed that one of the

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<v Speaker 4>things we covered was Silver City Cemetery ghosts. Was that

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<v Speaker 4>supposed to be silver Cliff Cemetery? Close? It was okay,

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<v Speaker 4>because I was gonna say, I totally missed that one somehow.

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<v Speaker 1>It probably is a silver city somewhere peer as well.

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<v Speaker 4>And the cemetery is probably Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That was me writing for Memory. It wasn't very.

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<v Speaker 1>So.

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<v Speaker 4>Blake. What were some of your favorite episodes from twenty

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<v Speaker 2>Boy, I liked a lot of them. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>love doing the show and I'm amazed that after all

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<v Speaker 2>these years we could still find new things to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about in new angles. But I think one of the

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<v Speaker 2>surprising ones, and I think this is probably on CAREN's

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<v Speaker 2>list too, was the episode on the wallet and gnomes

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<v Speaker 2>that was so peculiar. I'd never heard of it before,

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<v Speaker 2>so I was really happy to cover that. The Zimbabwe Goblins,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, and I like sort of you know, getting

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<v Speaker 2>that sort of cultural context to where these stories come

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<v Speaker 2>from is really cool and I want to keep like

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<v Speaker 2>for as a goal going forward. I want to get

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<v Speaker 2>more global monsters that we tend to be. And this

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<v Speaker 2>is my fault is from an editorial perspective, we don't

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<v Speaker 2>get enough global monsters Asia, Africa, South America, Central America.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to get out of the United States and Europe.

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<v Speaker 2>speaking world. That's where we can easily read a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the stories. But the monsters are everywhere, the stories

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<v Speaker 2>are everywhere. I'd like to make sure we cover all those.

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<v Speaker 4>Monsters bring us all together.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, they're the forest, they're the great uniters.

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<v Speaker 1>Seem to be a universal, but I think we have

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<v Speaker 1>touched upon other cultures. We've looked at Japanese ghosts, and

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<v Speaker 1>we've looked at Bolkan ghosts. But yeah, I mean there's

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<v Speaker 1>still so many more to cover, And yeah, that's absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>on the bucket list for me as well. And excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still nursing a cold here. I really want to

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<v Speaker 1>cover Australian magpies, so not American magpies. Apparently there's a

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<v Speaker 1>difference between the two. But I just know I spent

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<v Speaker 1>many many days in Australia dodging magpies who like to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fly down and attack you when they're when

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<v Speaker 1>they're protecting their babies. And my mother had an experience

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<v Speaker 1>I taken out by a magpie. So I think that

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<v Speaker 1>they're really interesting birds and they're so clever as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know we've touched upon birds here and there.

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<v Speaker 1>The cassowary this year. That was a really interesting topic

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<v Speaker 1>and we looked at owls and certainly lots of ours

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<v Speaker 2>Make Joe Nicol proud.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, but yeah, I like to treat that. And

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<v Speaker 1>the greenland shark. I think that's kind of like the

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<v Speaker 1>Meger pythons. Do you remember how much difficulty we had.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. And there's such weird animals too, and I love

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<v Speaker 2>the first of all, the fact that they live for

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<v Speaker 2>hundreds of years is peculiar. Oh the fact that people

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<v Speaker 2>you can't eat them because they're full of ammonia, but

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there are I think of over a hundred of

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<v Speaker 2>We just need that, we need to find a Buffy Buffer,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why we've explored these topics ourselves, and we

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<v Speaker 1>guests that we have. And yeah, we certainly do have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of good friends, and you know they're always

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<v Speaker 4>Well what about great ideas coming from the Patreon members?

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<v Speaker 2>They Yeah, yeah, we've great ideas. Absolutely, We've We've created

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<v Speaker 2>episode ideas, and that's already been actively being used, which

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<v Speaker 2>So every time we do one of those episodes, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate our patrons so much in the fact that they've

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's where I think we've got the idea for

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<v Speaker 1>the bulletin gnomes as well.

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<v Speaker 2>That was one of buy that's right, that's absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 4>Did anything fun happen with Monster House in general this year?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's been a pretty crazy year. We got out

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<v Speaker 2>our first publication through our imprint, Joe Nichols, The Science

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<v Speaker 2>of Monsters, and I'm excited to say to Nichol, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's what an amazing thing. And Joe is so generous

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<v Speaker 2>because every every issue or what's the right, every publication

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<v Speaker 2>of that, every copy of that book supports the show,

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<v Speaker 2>like all the He's not taking a dime for that,

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<v Speaker 2>which is great, so very generous. Joe's been such a friend.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel so lucky because I was a skeptic and

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<v Speaker 2>and when I finally got in touch with him, it's

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<v Speaker 2>much like a colleague and never like an annoyance, which

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<v Speaker 1>That's a huge achievement for Monster House, for monst A Toll,

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty well, I mean, especially considering the most of the

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<v Speaker 2>advertising has just been through the show, so I'm very

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<v Speaker 2>proud of that. I do need to actually put some

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<v Speaker 2>I'm working on my own book too, on technology, which

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<v Speaker 4>So interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, Matthew, What have you been up to this year?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh man, Well, I have to say, you know, in

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<v Speaker 4>terms of episodes that I absolutely love this year, my

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<v Speaker 4>that episode or being a part of that Monster Talk episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, And then that led to ghost Watch as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, ghost Watch is another one. It was just so

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<v Speaker 4>Now I jumped back into public speaking this year, and

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<v Speaker 4>And I watched the drone conspiracy theories with the complete disinterest.

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<v Speaker 4>what a junk yard that is? It is. Uh. Literally,

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<v Speaker 1>When we're there, And when we did the episode recently

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<v Speaker 1>But wasn't it strange how it just seemed like all

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<v Speaker 1>Like a kind of law of attraction, a law of

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<v Speaker 1>Was really interesting how that's that belief is transforming and

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<v Speaker 1>becoming a lot more kind of spiritual. And we've talked

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<v Speaker 2>new emergent religion, which I could see that, especially around

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<v Speaker 2>the sort of UAP that sort of side of things,

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<v Speaker 2>you know that there. But also it was always religious

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<v Speaker 4>really working overtime because it looks like you have a

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<v Speaker 4>che there.

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<v Speaker 2>With a cheer ohia, yes, yeah, totally cheradolia because it

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<v Speaker 2>looks like a pair of like, uh, ski pants.

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<v Speaker 4>That are kind of like resting over the chair.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can see that now. Now, I wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 2>seen that had not someone from a place where you

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<v Speaker 2>actually do see ski pants regularly shows up. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>like you won't see those in Georgia, right, but I

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<v Speaker 2>can see what you're talking about. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's really disturbing. And that leads me into my

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<v Speaker 4>next topic. Twenty twenty four was a huge year for

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<v Speaker 4>my mental health good and uh yeah, and and and

436
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<v Speaker 4>I'm I'm questioning my mental health at the moment because

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<v Speaker 4>I am seeing you know, Santa ski pants. But I

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<v Speaker 4>did that. There you go, that's so much better. No,

439
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<v Speaker 4>it's uh probably hardly anybody knows that I've got borderline

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<v Speaker 4>personality disorder and uh pression in anxiety and things like

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<v Speaker 4>that ADHD. Turns out, twenty twenty four was an amazing

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<v Speaker 4>year for me in terms of recovery therapy all that

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<v Speaker 4>that kind of stuff. I been seeing a DBT therapist

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<v Speaker 4>and that's not the same as DMT. Although I heard

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<v Speaker 4>that's good therapy as well. But seeing a DBT therapist

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<v Speaker 4>for it's been eleven months now and it's it's been transformative,

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<v Speaker 4>and I've been having a really good year in that sense.

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<v Speaker 4>Because of that, I think I'm going to have a

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<v Speaker 4>lot more to contribute to the YouTube channel this next year.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna be able to get back in and have

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<v Speaker 4>some good focus and feel pretty darn good about things.

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<v Speaker 2>That's amazing, man, I really that's amazingly brave to come

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<v Speaker 2>out and say something like that. But I'm really glad

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<v Speaker 2>it's working for you. That's awesome. Yeah, it really is.

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<v Speaker 2>It really is.

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<v Speaker 4>I just hope that it's making life easier for Karen

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<v Speaker 4>as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's you know, it's difficult to live your whole

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<v Speaker 1>life and think there's nothing wrong, and then everything's fine

460
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<v Speaker 1>and everyone else is the problem, and then to turn

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<v Speaker 1>inwardly and look to yourself.

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<v Speaker 4>And I did spend almost every day thinking that Blake

463
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<v Speaker 4>was the problems, Oh my god, and then it turns

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<v Speaker 4>out it was actually me.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, people don't know, I mean people. You

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<v Speaker 2>live an internal life and you struggle, and if you

467
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<v Speaker 2>don't talk to somebody, nobody even knows what you're going through.

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<v Speaker 2>So I I that's it's it's it's very commendable, and

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<v Speaker 2>I hope I hope it's effective, you know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I hope it gets you what you'all need.

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<v Speaker 1>The treatment that is undergoing is the gold star treatment

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<v Speaker 1>for this condition, and it's so misdiagnosed. People commonly confuse

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<v Speaker 1>it with a lot of other things that are out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and there are a lot of people suffering and they

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<v Speaker 1>don't need to. This particular treatment is really successful. And

476
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<v Speaker 1>I think Matt just regrets that he hadn't got this

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<v Speaker 1>diagnosis earlier and found some support earlier. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>guess we encourage everyone out there, if you're troubled in

479
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<v Speaker 1>any way, to try and get some support. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we can all do with some support.

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<v Speaker 4>It's easy an assessment, Just get an assessment. I guess.

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<v Speaker 4>It is hard work. You've got to put in the work.

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<v Speaker 4>And while I was working hard all of twenty twenty four,

484
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<v Speaker 4>Karen was sitting on her hands doing nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very usual.

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<v Speaker 4>Can you say more about that, Karen?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can speak. Yeah. So I've done a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of different things this year. The episode of Netflix's Father

489
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<v Speaker 1>of the Unexplained where I spoke about Myrtle's plantation in Louisiana.

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<v Speaker 1>That episode finally came out. So I've done a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of media work this year, a lot of interviews, and

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<v Speaker 1>another fun thing that I did, I did a number

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<v Speaker 1>of interviews for Universal Studios. I've got some more coming

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<v Speaker 1>up as well for Blu ray editions of movies that

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<v Speaker 1>they've released this year, and one of them was for

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<v Speaker 1>The Wolfman, the twenty ten version, and another was The

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<v Speaker 1>Last Voyage of the Demeter, which came out that was

498
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<v Speaker 1>last year, and so that's why we tackled I think

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00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:32.960
<v Speaker 1>were wolves and vampires so much because I was doing

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<v Speaker 1>research for those interviews. So that was a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the main things for this year was

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<v Speaker 1>releasing this book book. I really hope everyone's going to

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00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:54.799
<v Speaker 1>go and check this book out. It's not just a

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<v Speaker 1>book about etymology and word origins. It really is a

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<v Speaker 1>deep dive into this word and the pop culture surrounding it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I go into there's a real feminist approach to it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I really do look at the way that the

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<v Speaker 1>word is used, it's meaning and usage over time, and

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I've I've turned Matt off you.

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<v Speaker 2>You're relentless and dogged pursuit of the origins, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, very nice. I see what you did there. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so. I look at the controversy surrounding the word

513
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<v Speaker 1>the house, how much it's been banned over time, But

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<v Speaker 1>it really does go down a lot of rabbit holes too,

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<v Speaker 1>about insults in general, and just.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh please be my guess, better you than me at

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<v Speaker 4>the moment. Bitch is a bitch of a word. It

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<v Speaker 4>used to be a straightforward insult, but today, after so

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<v Speaker 4>many variations and efforts to reject or reclaim the word,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not always entirely clear what it means. Bitch is

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<v Speaker 4>a chameleon. There are good bitches and bad bitches, sexy

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<v Speaker 4>bitches and psycho bitches, boss bitches, and even perfect bitches.

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<v Speaker 4>This eye opening, deep dive account takes us on a

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<v Speaker 4>journey spanning a millennium, from its humble beginnings as a

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<v Speaker 4>word for a female dog through to its myriad meanings today,

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<v Speaker 4>proving that sometimes you can teach an old dog new tricks.

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<v Speaker 4>To see what she did there? I do I do

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<v Speaker 4>It praises the colorful history and ever changing meaning of

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<v Speaker 4>this powerful and controversial word and its relevance within broader

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<v Speaker 4>issues of feminism, gender, race, and sexuality. Despite centuries of

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<v Speaker 4>censorship and attempts to ban it, bitch has stood the

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<v Speaker 4>test of time. You may wonder, is the word going

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<v Speaker 4>away anytime soon? Bitch? Please?

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's great. I'm pretty proud of it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it encompasses a lot of research, a lot of work,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm getting some good reviews for it.

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<v Speaker 4>And number one, number one in the Cambridge University bookstore.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's very cool.

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<v Speaker 4>One for months now.

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<v Speaker 2>It took courage to write it, and we're not trying

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<v Speaker 2>to hound you, but do get a copy, right, Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Very well done, Very well done. So I'm working on

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<v Speaker 1>another book now and it's Jays Blake.

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<v Speaker 4>That is my problem.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm working on another book now, sorry, called Beyond Words,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's how we learn, use, and lose language. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at language acquisition. How do we learn languages,

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<v Speaker 1>language from scratch? And where does language come from? How

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<v Speaker 1>did we develop an evold language through to how do

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<v Speaker 1>we learn multiple languages? And how do we speak? And

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<v Speaker 1>what happens when things go wrong if we have a

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<v Speaker 1>disorder or a condition or develop something like dementia later

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<v Speaker 1>in life? How do we lose language? So it's another

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<v Speaker 1>deep dive and just a personal interest of mine. It's

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<v Speaker 1>an area of non psycho linguistics. It's language and psychology.

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<v Speaker 4>From psycho bitch to cygno linguistics exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and yeah, we're going to lose our monetization if indeed.

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<v Speaker 3>We have it.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't have monetization.

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<v Speaker 1>How many times we use the B word there?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the YouTube stuff is really weird to me.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm glad that it exists as a platform for

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<v Speaker 2>us to be able to get out and do stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like this. But boy, I've yet to figure out how

565
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<v Speaker 2>people make money at it. Well, they seem to do

566
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<v Speaker 2>a lot less intellectual stuff. So maybe we should have

567
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<v Speaker 2>a fart machine. It's part of our something. Well, Matt,

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<v Speaker 2>I hope that things work out that you're able to

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<v Speaker 2>generate more content in twenty twenty five then, because I

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<v Speaker 2>think you're as comparential investigator. Videos are well received, and

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<v Speaker 2>I certainly appreciate all the work you do helping us

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<v Speaker 2>get these live shows out because I am, as much

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<v Speaker 2>as I'm decent at video editing, I am no good

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<v Speaker 2>at multitasking in moving angles and yo and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it's too much for me.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's always been championing the YouTube channel and

577
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<v Speaker 1>just saying we've got to put out content. And so

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<v Speaker 1>he's really been he spearheaded this whole thing. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>excited to see what he's going to do next year

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<v Speaker 1>and to really get back into.

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<v Speaker 4>It and to utilize my adhdu Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's monetizing your obsessions is super awesome when

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<v Speaker 2>you can do it. That is a fact.

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<v Speaker 4>Can I say everybody in the chat room, thank you

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<v Speaker 4>guys so much. You guys will be in lovely tonight

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<v Speaker 4>and kind and I do appreciate it. I just wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to say that.

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<v Speaker 2>So, speaking of people in the chat discord, we've added

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<v Speaker 2>for our patrons. We turned on a discord channel, so

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<v Speaker 2>if you support us on Patreon, you can now interact

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<v Speaker 2>with other fans or supporters.

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<v Speaker 4>Of the show.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess is a better way of putting it. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I appreciate the support, whether their fans or not.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very grateful. So yeah, and it's it's really neat.

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<v Speaker 2>I like it because you can chat live if people

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<v Speaker 2>are online, but you can also chat asynchronously if they're

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you can respond to posts in the past,

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<v Speaker 2>So it's unlike a lot of platforms where people interact.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no artificial intelligence or algorithms hiding posts or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>making It is threaded and it's persistent, and if you

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<v Speaker 2>happen to catch people when they're on there, it's live.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's very fun and I appreciate all the people

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<v Speaker 2>who've been on there and chatting. So that's been a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of a lot of fun to get into.

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<v Speaker 1>Google, not Blue Sky. Well we finally joined you.

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<v Speaker 2>Like thanks, Yeah, yeah, I really I've enjoyed Blue Sky.

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<v Speaker 2>It it has there's the peril that it will succumb

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<v Speaker 2>to politics and despair, but I've I've there's been plenty

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<v Speaker 2>of very fun and pleasant threads about monsters or cats,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of cats. There's a shockingly number of dog photos.

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<v Speaker 2>But boy, there's cat people. Man. Cat people love to

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<v Speaker 2>get on the internet.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, well yeah, I'm finding it to be less

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<v Speaker 1>of a viper's den than the other alternative.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, certainly I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Seeing a lot of monster talk business on there. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you're you're on Blue Sky, do you track us

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<v Speaker 1>down and we follow.

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<v Speaker 2>Back yeah, so I should if you if I put

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<v Speaker 2>a post to the Discord invite and it expires like

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<v Speaker 2>every I don't know how long. So if you're a

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<v Speaker 2>patron and don't have an active invite, just email me

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<v Speaker 2>and I will be glad. Doctor Alanis at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be glad to get you an invite. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>a problem. So I can.

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<v Speaker 1>On Facebook as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just I can't. I can't make a non

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<v Speaker 2>expiring link as near as I can tell. But everybody

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<v Speaker 2>who is as a patron is invited to join as

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<v Speaker 2>far as I can tell, So yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll also look into that see if there's any work

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<v Speaker 2>around for that. But I am happy to send people

634
00:36:08.519 --> 00:36:09.599
<v Speaker 2>an active link that's not.

635
00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:13.199
<v Speaker 4>There's a discord expert that's listening right now, feel free

636
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<v Speaker 4>to pop that in the chat.

637
00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:20.199
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. And I'm an automation guy. I mean, I probably

638
00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:21.880
<v Speaker 2>could just do a thing where figure out what the

639
00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:25.960
<v Speaker 2>expiration date is and automate updating the posts every X

640
00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:27.880
<v Speaker 2>amount of time with a new link, but I have

641
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<v Speaker 2>I have not pursued that yet. So I know how

642
00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:32.320
<v Speaker 2>to do lots of things. I'm good at figuring out

643
00:36:32.360 --> 00:36:35.000
<v Speaker 2>things it's just finding time. That's where where I sort

644
00:36:35.039 --> 00:36:42.679
<v Speaker 2>of fall apart. So yeah, yeah, So what'd you get

645
00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:47.679
<v Speaker 2>for Christmas? Like I got a hug? I don't know,

646
00:36:48.519 --> 00:36:51.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, honestly, it's it's kind of sad. The uh,

647
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:55.360
<v Speaker 2>my lovely wife who's in the chat right now, she

648
00:36:56.639 --> 00:36:59.679
<v Speaker 2>got COVID over the holidays, so we had a rather

649
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:03.400
<v Speaker 2>dude Christmas. So I suspect some of what you gave

650
00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:06.079
<v Speaker 2>her for Christmas, you know, honestly, I was I was

651
00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:09.480
<v Speaker 2>supposed to bring one of my Christmas presents to this call,

652
00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:12.280
<v Speaker 2>and I messed up and lifted upstairs. But I got

653
00:37:12.320 --> 00:37:16.360
<v Speaker 2>a a yetti in a in a rock it's like,

654
00:37:16.519 --> 00:37:18.440
<v Speaker 2>and you put water on it and then over over

655
00:37:18.519 --> 00:37:20.880
<v Speaker 2>seventy two hours, it emerges from the stone.

656
00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:24.360
<v Speaker 1>Uh, you know, we need one of those.

657
00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:28.599
<v Speaker 2>Jesus do that I might, Yes, pulled the yetti from

658
00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:32.159
<v Speaker 2>the stone. It's one of the best miracles of the Bible. Yeah,

659
00:37:33.159 --> 00:37:35.679
<v Speaker 2>I believe my wife got that from Second in Charles,

660
00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:36.119
<v Speaker 2>which is.

661
00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:41.480
<v Speaker 4>Jesus submerged from after seventy two hours.

662
00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:44.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes, seventy two hours later, Yes, the stone is rolled away,

663
00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:48.719
<v Speaker 2>revealing the Yedi and Jesus Christ. Yeah, it sounds vaguely blaspheming,

664
00:37:48.800 --> 00:37:50.599
<v Speaker 2>So I'm going to stop or getting.

665
00:37:50.760 --> 00:37:53.039
<v Speaker 4>Getting a piggyback ride from the Yetnie I see.

666
00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:58.159
<v Speaker 2>Prior to this this chat, like two hours ago, I

667
00:37:58.239 --> 00:38:00.960
<v Speaker 2>was having a very peculiar conversation issue with my parents

668
00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:04.480
<v Speaker 2>where I guess I was fed up with just keeping

669
00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:09.880
<v Speaker 2>stuff inside and they my parents are very developed and

670
00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:15.519
<v Speaker 2>faithful religious people, but very conservative, and my dad started

671
00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:18.719
<v Speaker 2>talking about dinosaurs and younger creationism, and I just I

672
00:38:18.719 --> 00:38:21.880
<v Speaker 2>couldn't do it anymore. I just I gave them a

673
00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:25.400
<v Speaker 2>thirty minute lecture on how we can know that evolution

674
00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:29.480
<v Speaker 2>is or natural selection is a working mechanism. I don't

675
00:38:29.519 --> 00:38:31.079
<v Speaker 2>know what they made of all that, because I was

676
00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:33.239
<v Speaker 2>on a rant and I could not stop. Once it

677
00:38:33.280 --> 00:38:36.599
<v Speaker 2>got going, I could not stop. But I thought, my god,

678
00:38:36.639 --> 00:38:44.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm being coaching for being so angry. So they didn't.

679
00:38:44.559 --> 00:38:47.800
<v Speaker 2>They didn't perform an exorcism or kicked me out of

680
00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:49.719
<v Speaker 2>their house. I think it was all good. So yeah,

681
00:38:49.760 --> 00:38:50.360
<v Speaker 2>it was all good.

682
00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:53.880
<v Speaker 4>So Kara and I, Karan, and I still see your beauty.

683
00:38:54.679 --> 00:38:58.159
<v Speaker 2>You know. The thing is what I'm leaning towards in

684
00:38:58.199 --> 00:39:02.760
<v Speaker 2>my research on my book is the idea that natural

685
00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:06.119
<v Speaker 2>selection processes are relevant. This is not my unique idea.

686
00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:09.239
<v Speaker 2>Kevin Kelly and a few other Matt Ridley and a

687
00:39:09.280 --> 00:39:11.320
<v Speaker 2>few other writers have sort of touched on this. But

688
00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:14.760
<v Speaker 2>part of what I'm writing about is the parts of

689
00:39:14.840 --> 00:39:18.320
<v Speaker 2>natural selection that are applicable to technology. And so I

690
00:39:18.519 --> 00:39:20.480
<v Speaker 2>think I've had some pretty good insights, which I hope

691
00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:21.920
<v Speaker 2>to get into my book. I'm not going to spoil

692
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:25.320
<v Speaker 2>them here, but it's the kind of stuff that has

693
00:39:25.480 --> 00:39:29.039
<v Speaker 2>calmed me the hell down because a lot of things

694
00:39:29.039 --> 00:39:32.159
<v Speaker 2>about the world really annoy me when technology of the

695
00:39:32.199 --> 00:39:35.400
<v Speaker 2>present day is crap compared to five years ago. But

696
00:39:35.519 --> 00:39:37.400
<v Speaker 2>now that at least I can understand how it fits

697
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:42.840
<v Speaker 2>into that model, it's helping me be less RANTI allegedly.

698
00:39:42.920 --> 00:39:46.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think my kids have, yeah, pouring it

699
00:39:46.039 --> 00:39:48.599
<v Speaker 2>into the book instead of into my kid's ears, because

700
00:39:48.639 --> 00:39:50.840
<v Speaker 2>my kids really don't care turns out.

701
00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:54.719
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I think that they do. But yeah, that's

702
00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:56.800
<v Speaker 1>interesting because I think that the conversation with your parents

703
00:39:56.840 --> 00:39:58.280
<v Speaker 1>was a long time coming, wasn't it.

704
00:39:58.320 --> 00:39:58.559
<v Speaker 3>Really?

705
00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:07.199
<v Speaker 1>You could say that, yeah, yeah.

706
00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:08.599
<v Speaker 2>Because my tolerance for smug sanctimony has run low.

707
00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:13.119
<v Speaker 1>Well, I occasionally have conversations with members of my family

708
00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:17.360
<v Speaker 1>about skepticism or there's things and it seems like they're

709
00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:21.440
<v Speaker 1>very minable to it in that moment. Yeah, then when

710
00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:25.840
<v Speaker 1>they have exposure to other people, it's like everything just

711
00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:29.559
<v Speaker 1>washes away and they go right back to where they

712
00:40:29.719 --> 00:40:32.679
<v Speaker 1>are came from. And I guess watching Sky News, which

713
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<v Speaker 1>is the Australian equivalent of.

714
00:40:33.960 --> 00:40:37.599
<v Speaker 2>Fox ah, well, you know, it comes down Nobody wants

715
00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:40.559
<v Speaker 2>to use the word epistemology, but it comes down to epistemology,

716
00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:43.360
<v Speaker 2>like how do you know what's true? How do you

717
00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:47.000
<v Speaker 2>know what's the mechanism that gets you to your certitude

718
00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:53.039
<v Speaker 2>if you have certitude. And I think scientific skepticism doesn't

719
00:40:53.079 --> 00:40:56.039
<v Speaker 2>give people a lot of certitude, but it gives you

720
00:40:56.079 --> 00:40:58.480
<v Speaker 2>a lot of confidence that at least maybe you're less

721
00:40:58.519 --> 00:40:59.480
<v Speaker 2>wrong than other people.

722
00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:03.559
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you know, And I think it depends on your socialization,

723
00:41:03.719 --> 00:41:07.320
<v Speaker 1>how you're raised, you know, what your beliefs are, and

724
00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:10.280
<v Speaker 1>just what you're being brought up with over decades and decades,

725
00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:13.920
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be really hard to cast aside those

726
00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:16.760
<v Speaker 1>the shackles, you know, whether it's religion or talking about

727
00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:20.360
<v Speaker 1>mental health as well, these things to change is one

728
00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:23.119
<v Speaker 1>of the hardest things to do, especially as you get older.

729
00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:26.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, and people want to be confident and they want

730
00:41:26.840 --> 00:41:30.320
<v Speaker 2>a simple, understandable explanation for things. And it turns out

731
00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:35.159
<v Speaker 2>that the world is actually really complicated, and I hear so.

732
00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:36.760
<v Speaker 1>At the same time in some ways.

733
00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:38.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and how many times have you seen on the

734
00:41:38.880 --> 00:41:41.280
<v Speaker 2>internet people saying, well, I don't know much about that.

735
00:41:41.320 --> 00:41:45.360
<v Speaker 2>But here's what I think, Well, what are you doing,

736
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:48.360
<v Speaker 2>Like if you don't know much about it, why are

737
00:41:48.440 --> 00:41:51.360
<v Speaker 2>you interjecting your opinion? Because maybe what you should do

738
00:41:51.400 --> 00:41:52.960
<v Speaker 2>instad it Because I don't know much about that, so

739
00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:55.639
<v Speaker 2>maybe I should do some actual research. You know, I

740
00:41:55.639 --> 00:41:57.599
<v Speaker 2>don't know much about that, so maybe I should keep

741
00:41:57.599 --> 00:41:58.719
<v Speaker 2>my thoughts aside.

742
00:41:59.239 --> 00:41:59.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

743
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:03.000
<v Speaker 1>I think often the more opinionated they are are, the

744
00:42:03.119 --> 00:42:07.679
<v Speaker 1>less you know, research that they've done on a topic.

745
00:42:07.719 --> 00:42:11.280
<v Speaker 1>And it's I guess, emotion coming from a place of

746
00:42:11.559 --> 00:42:12.519
<v Speaker 1>emotion and belief.

747
00:42:12.559 --> 00:42:17.199
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, it was that Dunny Krueger, like, your certitude

748
00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:19.840
<v Speaker 2>might be inversely proportional to your competency, you know.

749
00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:23.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I think that these are things that we

750
00:42:23.239 --> 00:42:25.760
<v Speaker 1>all fight, you know, we've all got blind spots, and

751
00:42:26.079 --> 00:42:29.360
<v Speaker 1>even the skeptics we see all the time. I tried

752
00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:32.039
<v Speaker 1>to fight it in myself and you know, when you've

753
00:42:32.039 --> 00:42:34.920
<v Speaker 1>got good people around you too, they can identify.

754
00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:34.760
<v Speaker 2>It in you.

755
00:42:34.920 --> 00:42:38.679
<v Speaker 1>And but yeah, I think it's a it's part of

756
00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:40.079
<v Speaker 1>the human condition as well.

757
00:42:41.519 --> 00:42:41.800
<v Speaker 3>Well.

758
00:42:42.360 --> 00:42:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay, back to monsters for just a minute. I wanted

759
00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:49.599
<v Speaker 2>to mention that I managed to go see the new

760
00:42:49.719 --> 00:42:55.320
<v Speaker 2>Nosferatu movie and I wait, yea, was that this is

761
00:42:55.360 --> 00:42:56.400
<v Speaker 2>this Nospara three?

762
00:42:58.519 --> 00:42:59.679
<v Speaker 1>I've heard that joke before.

763
00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:02.000
<v Speaker 2>They should have Yeah, they could have made not Sharah too,

764
00:43:02.119 --> 00:43:05.719
<v Speaker 2>But no, No, it was glorious. And I know my

765
00:43:05.800 --> 00:43:09.159
<v Speaker 2>wife this is a vampire hater, uh in in a

766
00:43:09.159 --> 00:43:12.239
<v Speaker 2>big way. But the this was one of the most

767
00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:17.280
<v Speaker 2>relentlessly brutal Gothic masterpieces of horror I've seen in some time.

768
00:43:17.840 --> 00:43:21.840
<v Speaker 2>Uh I love it. I love a horror movie where

769
00:43:21.880 --> 00:43:23.679
<v Speaker 2>you actually feel a sense of horror, and that's what

770
00:43:23.719 --> 00:43:26.119
<v Speaker 2>we got here. It was. It was glorious. I loved

771
00:43:26.159 --> 00:43:30.639
<v Speaker 2>every minute of it. Yeah, no, it was great. I

772
00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:33.079
<v Speaker 2>really I went in with I didn't watch any of

773
00:43:33.119 --> 00:43:35.159
<v Speaker 2>the trailers, any of the previews, I didn't read any

774
00:43:35.159 --> 00:43:37.760
<v Speaker 2>of the reviews. I just went in cold and with

775
00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:41.840
<v Speaker 2>a little apprehension, honestly, and uh I was. I was

776
00:43:42.159 --> 00:43:45.320
<v Speaker 2>enormously pleased. I was unhappy. I mean I was. It

777
00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:48.920
<v Speaker 2>was as bleak as hell Jesus is bleak, but it

778
00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:51.920
<v Speaker 2>was exactly what I wanted. And uh, that was great.

779
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:53.719
<v Speaker 2>I really loved it. So I'm just going to say

780
00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:57.239
<v Speaker 2>as a monster lover, as a lover of the history

781
00:43:57.280 --> 00:44:04.360
<v Speaker 2>of how people have interacted with these creatures folklore and history, boy, yeah,

782
00:44:04.519 --> 00:44:06.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean I'm glad that I don't believe on these

783
00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:09.239
<v Speaker 2>things are real, but if they were real, this is

784
00:44:09.239 --> 00:44:13.039
<v Speaker 2>about how I would expect it to play out. So yeah, yeah,

785
00:44:13.079 --> 00:44:13.800
<v Speaker 2>And is it some.

786
00:44:14.239 --> 00:44:16.760
<v Speaker 1>Very different from the classic movie or the.

787
00:44:18.440 --> 00:44:21.239
<v Speaker 2>But I don't want to spoil anything about it. But

788
00:44:21.239 --> 00:44:25.840
<v Speaker 2>but uh, it tracks true to the original Nosatu, which

789
00:44:25.880 --> 00:44:30.840
<v Speaker 2>itself was a sort of illegal bastardization of Dracula. So

790
00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:33.320
<v Speaker 2>it hits a lot of the same notes, but it

791
00:44:33.400 --> 00:44:37.760
<v Speaker 2>tends to hit them in a gothic chord. It's it's

792
00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:39.880
<v Speaker 2>really really good. It's really good.

793
00:44:40.079 --> 00:44:42.199
<v Speaker 4>So oh coolked it up.

794
00:44:42.199 --> 00:44:43.760
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to see it.

795
00:44:44.119 --> 00:44:46.440
<v Speaker 2>You won't regret it. You won't regret it. I mean,

796
00:44:46.519 --> 00:44:49.280
<v Speaker 2>unless you're looking for comedy, then you will totally regret it,

797
00:44:49.320 --> 00:44:50.280
<v Speaker 2>because it is not a comedy.

798
00:44:52.559 --> 00:44:54.719
<v Speaker 4>We were talking about it that we might go check

799
00:44:54.719 --> 00:44:55.599
<v Speaker 4>it out of the next fewme.

800
00:44:55.840 --> 00:44:58.639
<v Speaker 2>Did you did you guys see Midsummer that the sort

801
00:44:58.639 --> 00:45:03.159
<v Speaker 2>of the full corror moving I think so it's very bleak.

802
00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:06.639
<v Speaker 2>I mean so, I just just as long as you

803
00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:09.239
<v Speaker 2>go in knowing you're you're getting bleak, and you're mentally

804
00:45:09.320 --> 00:45:11.920
<v Speaker 2>prepared for bleak, and that's what you're looking for, you'll

805
00:45:11.960 --> 00:45:13.519
<v Speaker 2>be very happy you're looking.

806
00:45:13.559 --> 00:45:17.039
<v Speaker 1>Thinks that we should do some more episodes of based

807
00:45:17.039 --> 00:45:18.599
<v Speaker 1>on a true story.

808
00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:20.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh for sure. Yeah, I think yeah.

809
00:45:20.599 --> 00:45:27.119
<v Speaker 1>As well, and yeah regular and blood tempests and.

810
00:45:28.840 --> 00:45:33.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I think those. I don't want to

811
00:45:33.559 --> 00:45:35.519
<v Speaker 2>spoil anything. I'm not going to say anything, but yeah,

812
00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:38.719
<v Speaker 2>this this this movie has some great historical notes. It

813
00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:41.239
<v Speaker 2>has some great ties to real history, has some great

814
00:45:41.239 --> 00:45:44.760
<v Speaker 2>ties to the novel Dracula, has some great ties to

815
00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:48.679
<v Speaker 2>the original black and white silent film. So yeah, it's

816
00:45:48.719 --> 00:45:50.079
<v Speaker 2>it's a treat. I liked it a lot.

817
00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:54.079
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, want to watch in the New year for us,

818
00:45:54.159 --> 00:45:58.960
<v Speaker 1>I think at this point, But yeah, yeah, I think

819
00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:01.679
<v Speaker 1>we've tackled both of things that we had on our

820
00:46:02.079 --> 00:46:05.079
<v Speaker 1>list of things to discuss. So have we got any

821
00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:12.239
<v Speaker 1>questions from there? Anything anyone's talking about that they.

822
00:46:12.760 --> 00:46:18.119
<v Speaker 4>I did have to ban somebody or block them. But seriously, Yeah,

823
00:46:18.159 --> 00:46:22.920
<v Speaker 4>there was a troll in there and a bunch of garbage.

824
00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:27.159
<v Speaker 1>Oh I think that's a first. Yeah. I don't remember.

825
00:46:27.400 --> 00:46:30.440
<v Speaker 2>We've had to ban one other hop control, but I

826
00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:35.239
<v Speaker 2>think you know, it's not common, So I got rid

827
00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:39.480
<v Speaker 2>of him. Okay, that's going to see. We could mention

828
00:46:39.599 --> 00:46:42.920
<v Speaker 2>that we managed to get to I managed to get

829
00:46:42.920 --> 00:46:46.280
<v Speaker 2>to Cryptic Coon this year thanks largely to support from

830
00:46:46.280 --> 00:46:51.400
<v Speaker 2>our listeners. So because at the last minute in my situation, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

831
00:46:51.480 --> 00:46:54.280
<v Speaker 2>and I really appreciate the support on that. But I

832
00:46:54.400 --> 00:46:57.519
<v Speaker 2>want to try to do some trips, maybe through like

833
00:46:57.599 --> 00:47:00.719
<v Speaker 2>a GoFundMe or a kickstar or something thing where we

834
00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:03.159
<v Speaker 2>can somehow manage to meet up and go do a

835
00:47:03.199 --> 00:47:05.719
<v Speaker 2>peranial investigation. I don't know what that would.

836
00:47:05.480 --> 00:47:06.519
<v Speaker 1>Be, but fantastic.

837
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would really love to do that, you know,

838
00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:12.159
<v Speaker 2>maybe like bring cameras, do a video, you know, make

839
00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:14.159
<v Speaker 2>make a big, make a big deal of it, you know.

840
00:47:14.880 --> 00:47:17.079
<v Speaker 1>No, I'd love that idea. That would be great. And

841
00:47:17.119 --> 00:47:19.639
<v Speaker 1>not certainly like to get to more conferences.

842
00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:22.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well sure for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Also from News of the Year, we changed our advertising

845
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<v Speaker 2>platform and partnered with iHeartMedia, and that's been I know

846
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<v Speaker 2>some users don't like our Listeners don't like the uh

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<v Speaker 2>the number of ads or where they fall in. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get that's largely on me because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know the platform is well enough. I'm working on trying

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<v Speaker 2>to make those more uh seamless when they pop in

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<v Speaker 2>with the ads. So but it has been tremendously helpful

852
00:47:51.559 --> 00:47:55.000
<v Speaker 2>for us. And remember, if you hate the ads, I

853
00:47:55.039 --> 00:47:57.199
<v Speaker 2>hope that you will at least consider joining the Patreon

854
00:47:57.239 --> 00:47:59.199
<v Speaker 2>because that's not super expensive. I think we have a

855
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<v Speaker 2>three dollars tier, three dollars a month, and I believe

856
00:48:02.119 --> 00:48:05.599
<v Speaker 2>that the content quality we give is pretty significant. Week.

857
00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:08.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember an episode where we phoned it in.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like, we really always do a lot of

859
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<v Speaker 2>work on these, and I'm very proud of the work.

860
00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:16.760
<v Speaker 1>A lot of research if it, admin and sourcing guests

861
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<v Speaker 1>and all the production work.

862
00:48:18.480 --> 00:48:23.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you hate ads thirty six dollars a year and

863
00:48:23.159 --> 00:48:26.000
<v Speaker 2>get an episode every week, it ain't bad. Plus the

864
00:48:26.079 --> 00:48:28.840
<v Speaker 2>patrons get commercial free and extended content.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, I think a lot of people don't realize that.

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00:48:32.840 --> 00:48:36.480
<v Speaker 4>You know the thing about Monster Talk is you've got

867
00:48:36.559 --> 00:48:41.039
<v Speaker 4>some other podcasts out there where these some of these

868
00:48:41.079 --> 00:48:46.840
<v Speaker 4>people do this for a living, you know, Brian Dunning

869
00:48:47.039 --> 00:48:51.400
<v Speaker 4>is an example. But so they have all this time

870
00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:56.440
<v Speaker 4>to dedicate and money to dedicate and to get things done,

871
00:48:56.920 --> 00:49:02.199
<v Speaker 4>and Monster Talk doesn't. We're on our own. We're having

872
00:49:02.280 --> 00:49:05.800
<v Speaker 4>to work jobs to survive and support our families on

873
00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:07.840
<v Speaker 4>top of the fact that that takes away from time

874
00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:12.039
<v Speaker 4>to do research and everything else. So we really do

875
00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:16.079
<v Speaker 4>appreciate how you guys support us. We really do, because

876
00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:18.800
<v Speaker 4>we're you know, we're we're competing with people that I

877
00:49:18.840 --> 00:49:22.760
<v Speaker 4>think have it a little easier, to be honest my perspective, anyway,

878
00:49:23.719 --> 00:49:25.960
<v Speaker 4>they don't. You know, we don't get to dedicate the

879
00:49:26.039 --> 00:49:27.599
<v Speaker 4>amount of time that we would like to do this,

880
00:49:27.800 --> 00:49:30.719
<v Speaker 4>and just think, do we get to a point to

881
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<v Speaker 4>where we could afford to do this for a living,

882
00:49:32.960 --> 00:49:35.159
<v Speaker 4>Just think how stellar things would be.

883
00:49:35.199 --> 00:49:39.000
<v Speaker 2>Then I would have twice as many posters back here.

884
00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:43.519
<v Speaker 4>Fanta ski Pants.

885
00:49:44.119 --> 00:49:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is certainly a labor of love, and we

886
00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:49.119
<v Speaker 1>really do dedicate a lot of time to the show,

887
00:49:49.639 --> 00:49:51.800
<v Speaker 1>but we we certainly have lots of things that we're

888
00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:55.079
<v Speaker 1>doing concurrently. But we really do appreciate the support and

889
00:49:55.119 --> 00:49:57.760
<v Speaker 1>we just love hearing from people. We hear from people

890
00:49:58.039 --> 00:50:03.000
<v Speaker 1>all the time, and with coggestions for shows for various topics,

891
00:50:03.159 --> 00:50:07.239
<v Speaker 1>and we just level the feedback. I mean, particularly during

892
00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:11.039
<v Speaker 1>COVID and the aftermath, just hearing from so many people

893
00:50:11.079 --> 00:50:14.679
<v Speaker 1>saying that monster talk got them through that period, or

894
00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:18.360
<v Speaker 1>talking of mental health, other people saying that monster talk

895
00:50:19.000 --> 00:50:21.800
<v Speaker 1>gets them through whatever issues they have.

896
00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:22.639
<v Speaker 4>Whatever.

897
00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:26.519
<v Speaker 1>Whatever things are getting them down, and that's just so

898
00:50:26.599 --> 00:50:29.599
<v Speaker 1>meaningful to us. I think, like you talking earlier about

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<v Speaker 1>how you want to help people who are scared of

900
00:50:33.880 --> 00:50:37.519
<v Speaker 1>sleep paralysis or the idea of demons or just all

901
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:39.920
<v Speaker 1>the topics that we tackle, I think it's really important

902
00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:44.119
<v Speaker 1>to me too that we're there for people getting them

903
00:50:44.159 --> 00:50:47.400
<v Speaker 1>through these things that are getting people through life and

904
00:50:47.480 --> 00:50:51.239
<v Speaker 1>everything that life throws at. It's really important to me.

905
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I personally, and I know you do too.

906
00:50:55.000 --> 00:50:59.199
<v Speaker 2>I have so much empathy because I was once a

907
00:50:59.239 --> 00:51:01.719
<v Speaker 2>person who was afraid of all these things. I was

908
00:51:01.760 --> 00:51:03.360
<v Speaker 2>interested in them, I was fascinated by them, but I

909
00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:05.559
<v Speaker 2>didn't know if they were real or not. But they

910
00:51:05.599 --> 00:51:08.920
<v Speaker 2>scared me or in my case, I had real world

911
00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:14.320
<v Speaker 2>experiences that tracked absolutely perfectly with paranormal experiences and figuring

912
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<v Speaker 2>out that there was a natural explanation for all that

913
00:51:16.719 --> 00:51:21.000
<v Speaker 2>stuff freed me from that fear. And that is so

914
00:51:21.079 --> 00:51:24.159
<v Speaker 2>powerful and I'm so happy. We've had so many emails

915
00:51:24.199 --> 00:51:27.519
<v Speaker 2>from listeners who've had similar experiences where something weird was

916
00:51:27.559 --> 00:51:29.079
<v Speaker 2>happening to them, or there was a story they were

917
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<v Speaker 2>afraid of or they couldn't stop thinking about, and we

918
00:51:31.920 --> 00:51:36.119
<v Speaker 2>explained that no, no, no, there's a really normal explanation for this,

919
00:51:36.239 --> 00:51:39.480
<v Speaker 2>is rational explanation of this. You're not imagining it, but

920
00:51:39.599 --> 00:51:43.840
<v Speaker 2>maybe you're misinterpreting it. That just having somebody out there, Yeah, yeah,

921
00:51:43.880 --> 00:51:47.920
<v Speaker 2>you're not alone exactly exactly, and I and I don't

922
00:51:48.079 --> 00:51:49.760
<v Speaker 2>we're not here to make fun of people for their

923
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<v Speaker 2>beliefs because well we don't do that. Well, not only

924
00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:54.760
<v Speaker 2>do we not do that, but I mean so many

925
00:51:55.079 --> 00:51:59.840
<v Speaker 2>things have I mean it's people making fun of people

926
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<v Speaker 2>for believing in Bigfoot, for example, Well, people have strange

927
00:52:03.119 --> 00:52:06.039
<v Speaker 2>experiences in the woods, people have strange experiences at home

928
00:52:06.079 --> 00:52:11.440
<v Speaker 2>with ghosts or ghosts like things, and understanding that there

929
00:52:11.559 --> 00:52:15.440
<v Speaker 2>might maybe don't think of ghosts as the explanation, think

930
00:52:15.480 --> 00:52:18.960
<v Speaker 2>of all the individual elements and try to figure out

931
00:52:18.960 --> 00:52:21.760
<v Speaker 2>what's causing them just that one little step can make

932
00:52:21.800 --> 00:52:24.280
<v Speaker 2>a big difference, you know. But once you start thinking

933
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<v Speaker 2>in terms of a ghost or a bigfoot, or cheop

934
00:52:26.719 --> 00:52:29.519
<v Speaker 2>of copper or these these become the explanation and now

935
00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:31.960
<v Speaker 2>you're just adding to the evidence. Everything you find is

936
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<v Speaker 2>just one more supporting being for your belief system, instead

937
00:52:36.719 --> 00:52:40.480
<v Speaker 2>of them being individual, discrete elements that probably have their

938
00:52:40.480 --> 00:52:44.679
<v Speaker 2>own explanations, and just changing that thinking and like trying

939
00:52:44.679 --> 00:52:47.840
<v Speaker 2>to figure out if you can understand the individual elements

940
00:52:47.880 --> 00:52:54.639
<v Speaker 2>alone can be liberating, you know, intellectually liberating and emotionally liberating,

941
00:52:54.719 --> 00:52:58.880
<v Speaker 2>but you're not alone, and you can leave that world

942
00:52:58.920 --> 00:53:03.199
<v Speaker 2>of fear and come into a world where it's more

943
00:53:03.320 --> 00:53:06.199
<v Speaker 2>calm and rational and you understand the world better. And

944
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<v Speaker 2>I hope we're helping to guide.

945
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<v Speaker 4>People back off of that, you know. I have to

946
00:53:13.719 --> 00:53:19.480
<v Speaker 4>say that the Monster Talk family, you know, the Mushtak listeners,

947
00:53:19.559 --> 00:53:25.079
<v Speaker 4>the Patreons, everybody, it feels to me like a huge

948
00:53:25.079 --> 00:53:30.119
<v Speaker 4>group of friends. That's what's so great to me, Especially

949
00:53:30.159 --> 00:53:32.880
<v Speaker 4>when we do these live shows. It's like getting to

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00:53:32.920 --> 00:53:35.960
<v Speaker 4>hang out with just a ton of my best friends,

951
00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:40.480
<v Speaker 4>and it's these live shows have been some of the

952
00:53:40.559 --> 00:53:43.239
<v Speaker 4>best experiences that I've had over the past few years,

953
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<v Speaker 4>and I really want to thank all the listeners for that.

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00:53:47.719 --> 00:53:51.599
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, people talk about skeptics and athees not having

955
00:53:51.599 --> 00:53:55.320
<v Speaker 1>a sense of community, Well, you don't have that support system,

956
00:53:55.360 --> 00:53:59.119
<v Speaker 1>and that's just not true. I really feel like with

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00:53:59.239 --> 00:54:03.239
<v Speaker 1>our patreons and people who watch these episodes listen to

958
00:54:03.280 --> 00:54:05.639
<v Speaker 1>months to talk in general, I really feel like we've

959
00:54:05.679 --> 00:54:08.519
<v Speaker 1>got just a good base the people, really good group

960
00:54:08.599 --> 00:54:15.519
<v Speaker 1>of people who are like minded and just I'm really

961
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<v Speaker 1>grateful for all the friends that we've made over the

962
00:54:17.840 --> 00:54:24.199
<v Speaker 1>years doing this. It's been just very incredible, very valuable,

963
00:54:24.679 --> 00:54:29.079
<v Speaker 1>and it is good for good for my mental health,

964
00:54:29.119 --> 00:54:29.880
<v Speaker 1>let's put it that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I have to say, I mean, as someone who's

966
00:54:32.880 --> 00:54:35.800
<v Speaker 2>let me be blunt, I never finished college, and being

967
00:54:35.840 --> 00:54:39.679
<v Speaker 2>able to talk with so many academics and intellectuals on

968
00:54:39.719 --> 00:54:42.400
<v Speaker 2>the show about stuff that I love and it helps

969
00:54:42.400 --> 00:54:47.760
<v Speaker 2>you better understand it has been like the extra college

970
00:54:47.840 --> 00:54:50.320
<v Speaker 2>classes I never could have gotten. I mean, a lot

971
00:54:50.360 --> 00:54:52.800
<v Speaker 2>of the material we cover here is not part of

972
00:54:52.840 --> 00:54:56.480
<v Speaker 2>a degree program, but we've lucked into finding lots of

973
00:54:56.599 --> 00:55:00.599
<v Speaker 2>really qualified people to talk about material in a way

974
00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:04.800
<v Speaker 2>that is more than just an interesting story. It textualizes

975
00:55:04.840 --> 00:55:13.400
<v Speaker 2>it culturally, academically, scientifically, and boy, it makes me feel

976
00:55:13.800 --> 00:55:14.840
<v Speaker 2>more smarter.

977
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<v Speaker 1>Now what we've learned a lot over the years, that's

978
00:55:19.079 --> 00:55:19.519
<v Speaker 1>for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we often come to an episode with some

981
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<v Speaker 1>kind of preconceived ideas or some you know, an understanding

982
00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:30.760
<v Speaker 1>of a topic. And I just don't think we've ever

983
00:55:30.800 --> 00:55:33.159
<v Speaker 1>had a single episode where haven't been blown away by

984
00:55:33.239 --> 00:55:36.840
<v Speaker 1>learning new things. And it's just such a thrill every

985
00:55:36.880 --> 00:55:40.039
<v Speaker 1>time to do every episode and just learn new things

986
00:55:40.039 --> 00:55:44.719
<v Speaker 1>about a topic and different perspectives. And I think that's

987
00:55:45.079 --> 00:55:47.119
<v Speaker 1>a good thing about being a skeptic, is that you're

988
00:55:47.559 --> 00:55:50.960
<v Speaker 1>happy to be disproved or you're happy to be proven

989
00:55:51.000 --> 00:55:56.239
<v Speaker 1>wrong about things, and you're not scared with to find

990
00:55:56.239 --> 00:55:58.719
<v Speaker 1>out that you're wrong about something and to accept a

991
00:55:58.760 --> 00:56:02.440
<v Speaker 1>different point of view. It's just really talking about freedom

992
00:56:02.480 --> 00:56:05.639
<v Speaker 1>of thought, and I think that's just a really freeing

993
00:56:05.719 --> 00:56:09.679
<v Speaker 1>thing to be corrected and to learn new things, and

994
00:56:11.199 --> 00:56:13.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, to know there's more just a lot of

995
00:56:13.559 --> 00:56:18.400
<v Speaker 1>people very opinionated in this industry, and it's not prepared

996
00:56:18.400 --> 00:56:23.599
<v Speaker 1>to accept new evidence or different opinions or perspectives. And

997
00:56:24.159 --> 00:56:28.079
<v Speaker 1>I think that that's if you're open minded skeptic, A

998
00:56:28.119 --> 00:56:31.000
<v Speaker 1>good skeptic. I think you're going to be have to

999
00:56:31.320 --> 00:56:33.519
<v Speaker 1>be open two new ideas.

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<v Speaker 2>I certainly found it very humbling. I mean I I

1001
00:56:37.199 --> 00:56:42.159
<v Speaker 2>sometimes say I have a surplus of doubtless, surfeit of certainty.

1002
00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:44.960
<v Speaker 2>And that's not as catchy as I wish it was,

1003
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<v Speaker 2>but it is something I say, so stop wanting it.

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00:56:48.800 --> 00:56:52.320
<v Speaker 2>I just I don't know of any episode we've done

1005
00:56:52.320 --> 00:56:54.880
<v Speaker 2>where I haven't learned something, you know, And I don't

1006
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<v Speaker 2>know of any topic we've covered where, either in researching

1007
00:56:58.119 --> 00:57:01.320
<v Speaker 2>or interviewing, we haven't learned something new, And like, there's

1008
00:57:01.360 --> 00:57:03.760
<v Speaker 2>so much more to the world and so many more

1009
00:57:03.960 --> 00:57:07.920
<v Speaker 2>mysteries out there to be explored. And I think, I just,

1010
00:57:08.480 --> 00:57:12.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, I think we agree that scientific skepticism is

1011
00:57:12.840 --> 00:57:16.920
<v Speaker 2>the right framework to approach this material. But it is humbling,

1012
00:57:16.920 --> 00:57:20.719
<v Speaker 2>and it is it's it's it reminds you constantly that

1013
00:57:22.079 --> 00:57:27.639
<v Speaker 2>arrogance and certitude are really rarely warranted. I mean, you know,

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00:57:27.719 --> 00:57:31.199
<v Speaker 2>even in debates where I'm really confident that I'm on

1015
00:57:31.239 --> 00:57:33.760
<v Speaker 2>the right side of it, I always try to listen

1016
00:57:33.800 --> 00:57:36.519
<v Speaker 2>to the other person more than I ever would when

1017
00:57:36.559 --> 00:57:38.920
<v Speaker 2>I was younger. And a lot of that comes from

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00:57:39.400 --> 00:57:42.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, understanding that there's a ton of stuff I

1019
00:57:42.280 --> 00:57:45.039
<v Speaker 2>don't know, you know, and and there's a lot of

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00:57:45.039 --> 00:57:50.199
<v Speaker 2>ways that people experience things that may seem impossible but

1021
00:57:50.639 --> 00:57:56.079
<v Speaker 2>might actually have a reasonably normal explanation. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's the lesson I've learned from this show more than

1023
00:57:58.599 --> 00:58:01.719
<v Speaker 2>anything is is you know, have a lot of empathy,

1024
00:58:01.800 --> 00:58:02.679
<v Speaker 2>have a lot of humility.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, good advice. So do we have any New

1026
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<v Speaker 1>Years resolutions?

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<v Speaker 2>Then you mean related to this or just in general?

1028
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<v Speaker 2>Because I always have. Last year, can I just say

1029
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<v Speaker 2>for twenty twenty four, I had I committed to doing

1030
00:58:19.679 --> 00:58:23.960
<v Speaker 2>push ups and crunches every day, and I got up

1031
00:58:24.000 --> 00:58:26.599
<v Speaker 2>to doing fifty a day, and then I had some

1032
00:58:26.599 --> 00:58:28.920
<v Speaker 2>surgery in November. I've had to cut back because, like

1033
00:58:29.199 --> 00:58:33.199
<v Speaker 2>the healing from the surgery has sucked. But I'm kicking

1034
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<v Speaker 2>off things again pain or no for January, and boy,

1035
00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:39.440
<v Speaker 2>I feel so much fitter and healthier. It's been great.

1036
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<v Speaker 2>That really has nothing to do with monsters. But as

1037
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<v Speaker 2>far as keeping me in the chair and able to

1038
00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:46.159
<v Speaker 2>talk for another year healthily, I think I'm on the

1039
00:58:46.239 --> 00:58:46.760
<v Speaker 2>right track.

1040
00:58:48.840 --> 00:58:51.000
<v Speaker 1>That's fantastic. Yeah, I think Matt and I have lost

1041
00:58:51.039 --> 00:58:53.280
<v Speaker 1>a bit of waight of the past a year or

1042
00:58:53.320 --> 00:58:55.679
<v Speaker 1>so on. So I think I've got to be renewed

1043
00:58:55.719 --> 00:58:58.719
<v Speaker 1>commitment to that as well. Just health is so important

1044
00:58:58.719 --> 00:59:03.000
<v Speaker 1>the older you get, health is wealth, health is everything,

1045
00:59:03.039 --> 00:59:06.400
<v Speaker 1>all of those old adages. It's just so so critical.

1046
00:59:06.480 --> 00:59:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Especially having a young child still we need to stick

1047
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<v Speaker 1>around for him and just take good care of ourselves

1048
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<v Speaker 1>physical and mental.

1049
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, one of the big things I think is the

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<v Speaker 4>way we eat, you know, not necessarily being on a diet,

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<v Speaker 4>but having our dial life and that's that's been a huge,

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<v Speaker 4>huge one of cutting out a lot of things that

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<v Speaker 4>we didn't realize were so bad before. And uh, it's

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's been making a good difference.

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<v Speaker 1>And vegetables.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I looked at as I ran across somewhere. I

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<v Speaker 4>wrote our weight goals a while back, and I can

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<v Speaker 4>say that both Karen and I have surpassed our weight

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<v Speaker 4>goals a considerable amount, and I'm proud of both of

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<v Speaker 4>us for that. And it just seems like the three

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<v Speaker 4>of us have just been dropping the poundage.

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<v Speaker 1>You could make another human or.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, there we both.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's one of my goals is to cover more

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<v Speaker 2>on alchemy and dive a little deeper, so Homunculus is

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<v Speaker 2>very appropriate.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to find a nick spit on that. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure there's someone out there.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you a funny story before we go. The

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<v Speaker 2>When I was watching uh not Saratu, there was four

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<v Speaker 2>of us in the front row, and me and my

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<v Speaker 2>friend and then a married couple next to us, and

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<v Speaker 2>we were all because now you select your seats, but

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know who else is. Anyway, it turned out

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<v Speaker 2>we're all crunched together and the movie is going along,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's a scene where the vampires hit the town

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<v Speaker 2>and it's a plague situation. There's bodies in the street,

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<v Speaker 2>it's grim, it's really dark, and the door to the

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<v Speaker 2>theater opens and a grandmother and a little kid of

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01:00:51.119 --> 01:00:54.880
<v Speaker 2>five or six comes in and they walk in and

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<v Speaker 2>they sit down, and I'm just thinking, what is going on? Like,

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<v Speaker 2>what kind of hardcore horror fan are you that you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to bring like a five year old to see

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<v Speaker 2>this movie? This movie? There's this is not well well,

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<v Speaker 2>hold on, honestly, hold on? What is there on the movie? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's rated R. Is rated R as hell, it's really

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<v Speaker 2>really super R. Anyway, she she sits down and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>am I watching a woman trying to force a five

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<v Speaker 2>year old to watch this nightmare? And then she before

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<v Speaker 2>I can even say anything, she gets up and comes

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<v Speaker 2>over to us and she's like, this is not Mowana

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<v Speaker 2>is it?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>No, get out, run run, get out? And uh. When

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<v Speaker 2>the movie gets over, my friend leans over and says, man,

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<v Speaker 2>Mawana two went hard. Holy crap. Yeah, I was so

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01:01:58.440 --> 01:02:00.360
<v Speaker 2>worried about that kid. I was like, I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to interfere in anybody's parenting, but no, get this kid

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<v Speaker 2>out of here. Holy cow. Nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Blade wants to see it, but it sounds like it's

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<v Speaker 1>a a little too mature.

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<v Speaker 2>For it's it. I would not take anyone under thirteen

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01:02:13.639 --> 01:02:16.480
<v Speaker 2>to see this movie. Yeah, I don't care how much

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<v Speaker 2>here they are. So yeah, that's my take, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that's that's just that. So anyway, well, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess we have to wrap up, and I just want

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<v Speaker 2>to say happy New Year. I think twenty twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>was a big success and I'm looking forward to twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five and continue to work with you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh yeah, we like it's just a pleasure to

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<v Speaker 1>know you and an honor to work with you, and

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<v Speaker 1>just look forward to twenty twenty five and what the

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<v Speaker 1>new year is going to bring, and it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Exciting very much, so very much, so we'll take care,

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<v Speaker 2>Karen get well. Yeah, thanks to everybody in the chat

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<v Speaker 2>who showed up to do this live. I really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, and happy New Year to you all and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll well, we'll see you soon.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, have a good one. Monster you've been listening

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<v Speaker 2>to Monster Talk, the science show about monsters. I'm Blake

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<v Speaker 2>Smith and I'm Karen Stolsner. You just heard our twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four year in review episode. Was the explicit tech needed?

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<v Speaker 2>I can't remember, but I hope you enjoyed our chat.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay tuned because next week we'll be talking with the

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<v Speaker 2>organizers of the Green Ice Festival and find out how

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<v Speaker 2>they managed to knock together an impressive get together in

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<v Speaker 2>rural North Georgia using nothing but their college educations, hard work,

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<v Speaker 2>and a rather ambiguous monster. The Monster Talk is combining

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<v Speaker 2>forces with the popular skeptical podcast Skeptoid as We Brave

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<v Speaker 2>the Bermuda Triangle in twenty twenty five. I'll be one

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<v Speaker 2>of the skeptic celebrities participating in this adventure in the

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<v Speaker 2>warm waters off the coast of Florida. Will we find

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<v Speaker 2>the Missing Flight nineteen? Will we find proof of Atlantis?

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<v Speaker 2>Will sea musters pilot us through these mystery filled waters? No,

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<v Speaker 2>but I promise you there will be science and history

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<v Speaker 2>filled discussions and plenty of puns if I have anything

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<v Speaker 2>to do with it. Early bird pricing is still available,

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<v Speaker 2>so come get some sun, visit beautiful places, roll your

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01:04:22.199 --> 01:04:25.400
<v Speaker 2>eyes at my terrible puns, and raise money to fund

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<v Speaker 2>Skeptoid and Monster Talks shared mission of promoting skepticism and

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<v Speaker 2>science while still enjoying a good mystery. Early bird pricing

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<v Speaker 2>ends January thirty first, so hurry up and sign up.

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<v Speaker 2>Check the show notes for a link, or go to

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<v Speaker 2>skeptoid dot com and click events to find your way

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01:04:40.960 --> 01:04:50.199
<v Speaker 2>onto Braving the Bermuda Triangle, a Skeptoid adventure. Monster Talk's

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<v Speaker 2>theme music is by Pete Stealing Monkeys from the Monster

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<v Speaker 2>Talk family. We wish you a happy, prosperous, and healthy

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<v Speaker 2>new year, and may your.

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<v Speaker 4>Enemies be punished in direct proportion to their opposition to.

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<v Speaker 2>Your will, or you know, just have a good year.

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<v Speaker 1>This has been a Monster House presentation