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Michelle Byrne, And what a show that I have for
you today. So you know how, I know how all
of you love to go to different cat events, like
you know, cat Con, whisker Con and all these different
cons that involve cats. So my guest today and I've
never quite done a show like this, so I'm super excited.
My guest today is the show organizer of whisker Con
that is coming up in Savannah, Georgia. And I also
have doctor lisa 's Overdosta who is a vet near behavior,
so that this is going to be an amazing show.
Stay tuned. We'll be right back.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back everyone. I would like to welcome doctor Lisa Rodosta,
a veterinary behaviorist, and Katie Cohn, who is the organizer
of whisker Con Savannah, Georgia. Welcome ladies.
Speaker 5: Thank you, it's nice to be here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, worll to have you. We have cat lovers on
CATA too, and they go to different shows or cat events.
Sometimes they're large events, sometimes small, like even at a
cat cafe. But whisker Con is going to be really excited.
So Katie, you're organizing this show, and what can you
tell our listeners that might be new to cat conventions?
The best way to find out about different events, like say,
whisker Con, and I forgot some of my intro cat
con popcats. I'm sure there's more I'm forgetting. But how
can people find out about these events?
Speaker 6: Well that's a really good question because I'm actually brand
new to all of these events as well. Well, I
went to my first one in Florida, in January and
this whole thing just kind of snowballed. And I had
never even heard of cat conventions before, and I'm a
cat lover, and so the more research that I did,
and after attending my first one, I found a lot
of the marketing and places you would find them is
mostly on social media. If you follow certain vendors or
certain catlebrities like Hannis Shaw, for instance, you know they'll
always post whenever they're attending at convention. And I think
that's the easiest way personally. I'm sure you could google
or reach out to your local humane society or rescues
and they would probably know that as well, and I
would think they'd be publicizing that as well.
Speaker 2: Okay, and I have to ask you. I know your
fellow cat lovers, so how many and what type and
their names?
Speaker 6: Well, it depends what day you asked me today, because
I'm really busy planning this. I only have my own cats.
I have Coral and Beluga, two gingers, and I have
a dog. But on any given day when I don't
have this going on, I have an incubator and I
run a bottle baby program for neo natal kittens, And
so you never know what's going to be in my house.
Speaker 2: So you can really relate to Hannahshadan. Yeah, and we'll
talk a little bit later about her and the other
guests that you have coming up. So what makes whisker
Con Savannah unique compared to and by the way, I've
been to Savannah, Georgia a few times and it is beautiful.
It's an amazing city. So what makes whisker Con Savannah
unique besides the city compared to other feline focused events
that are around the country.
Speaker 6: So, as I've said, I've only been to two, so
I'm basing my facts on those, so I'm sure there's
a lot more out there that I haven't been exposed to.
But ours is being hosted with our nonprofit rescue, One
Love Animal Rescues, So any extra funds and ticket sales
and things like that that come in, we'll go right
back into our community to help our local animals. So
I don't know if they are normally run like that
or not, but for us, that's how we're putting it on.
And I'm also putting a big focus on education. I've
been with my son growing up. I would go to
the local schools and I would bring in the little
neonatal kittens and teach kids about them, and teach them
how to measure, how to use a scale and things
like that, and just get them accustomed to learning more.
A lot of children are afraid of cats, so that
really helped change things. And I just feel like if
you start with the children and get the education in
with them, it's just going to work its way up.
So we are going to have interesting things going on
with a little Whiskers Cat Academy put on by one
of my veterinarian hospitals that I go to, and teaching
the kids about spee and neuter and different things for
cats that they would need to know as kids just
growing up in the importance of spe and neuter. So
to me, I didn't really see a lot of children's
education type things at the other conventions I went to.
But to me, that's a big focus.
Speaker 2: You know, I think you're right on because how many
times do us as adults learn from kids. Yeah, I'm
not talking just social media or you know, video games
and stuff, but we could actually learn a lot from them,
and I think it's a great opportunity to educate them
about cats and kittens. What about the vibe because a
lot of people listening have not been to a cat
show before, and we hope as many as possible can
make a d Whisker con in Savannah, Georgia. But if
they can't, what can someone who's attending a cat show
for the first time, what can they expect, you know,
the experience to be. And I know you've only been
to a couple You might have talked to other people
that have gone to more, but what is it like
to me?
Speaker 6: I'm still feeling the vibe from my last one that
I just went to in October in New Jersey Catsbury Park,
and walking into an event like that for the first
time is kind of like saying, these are my people.
You see everyone around you, they have cattiers on, they're wearing,
you know, clothes with cat designs on them. Everybody's happy
and in a good mood and cheerful and friendly, and
everyone's talking to everyone. I met so many people the
last time I went. That's probably the best part about
this convention so far, all the incredible people that I've met.
It's just a very uplifting experience to be around people
that love something just as much as you do. You know,
you think you love your cat more than anyone can
ever love a cat. But I'm pretty sure you love
your cats the same way I do love mine, and
so it's very very uplifting and fun to be in
a positive environment like that with people that feel the
same way you do.
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks. You mentioned one of the hidden gems at
Whisker Con, which is the event that you're putting on
to educate children. Are there any other hidden gems that
first time visitors should look out for?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 6: To me, I think our little Whiskers Cat Academy is
really going to be a gem. We're trying to make
it really fun for the kids. They'll get a little
lab coat when they come in, they'll get a little
stuff kitty, and they'll learn how to put on bandages
and all different types of fun things with the vet
techs that are putting it on. And then they'll get
a little certificate that they've completed the cat course and
get a little photo taken with the vet tech that's
there with them. To me, I think that's the cutest thing,
one of the cutest things we're doing. And another thing
that we're doing that may be different from other conventions
is we're having a two hour neonatal kitten class with
Hannah Shaw, just to teach more medical type things in
our city. As far as I know, with the just
local rescues, I'm the only person who knows how to
tube feed a kitten, and so I get calls all
the time to take in kittens. And I can't have
twenty bottle babies in my house at once. That's just
too much for my lifestyle. So that's how the whole
thing started, is I needed people to want to learn
how to tube feed, among other things, and that way
I won't be alone out here. I want to help
with education. Some more people can do this, So I
think this class is going to be a diamond for
as far as I'm concerned for this convention.
Speaker 2: Okay, I know Hannah Shaw is going to be at
this show. I've had Hannah Shaw on the show, and
I know another guest that you have to be at
your show, Sterling Davis, has also been on Catitude and
they both do amazing work. Ingrid Johnson of Fundamentally Feeline
is a cat behaviorist. I have not had the pleasure
of having her own Catitude, but those are your three guests.
I know why you chose Hannah, but you could tell
me why you chose each of them, and do you
have any other guests that I miss?
Speaker 6: Yes, So I started with Hannah because I wanted I
just wanted Hannah to come and help teach people how
to two feed and train people to properly take care
of me and natal kittens. So that was my intention
of starting this, and then it all snowballed into all
of these other speakers coming because it became a bigger event.
I went to an event in Florida I'm Space Cats
and spoke to that event organizer and she said, well,
in order to put this whole thing on and to
have speakers, you're gonna need vendors and that'll help you
pay for that. And so so next thing I know,
I went from Hannahshaw coming to Sterling Davis to come
and talk about the importance of TNR. I think it's
a huge problem in Savannah. There's a lot of old
thinking where they think if you just trap the cats
and take them away, that's going to solve your problem.
Or unfortunately, some people trap them and euthanize them and
that doesn't solve the problem. So I really felt bringing
them here to help educate the public as well as
some of the trappers how to trap cats properly. I've
seen a lot of cats that have not been trapped properly,
left alone in traps for too long, and so we
just want to make sure everyone's learning and doing things
the right way. Ingrid, I wanted to come because, as
Lisa knows, behavior is very very to my heart. I
love cat behavior, and you know, helping cats not develop
behavior problems will also keep them out of shelters. So
many cats are given up because they do have a
behavior issue that most times can be prevented, but people
just don't know what they need. So she'll be talking
about litterboxes and she'll be talking about environmental enrichment. Then
I also have Sally Williams coming from a mission meou
not sure if you know them?
Speaker 7: Know them?
Speaker 2: Yep?
Speaker 6: Yeah, they're incredible nonprofit. They work with business partners and
every month they collect donations from business partners and then
they give out grants to small cat rescues across the country.
And I met her when I went to the convention
in Florida, and she was an incredible person and she
has started a new initiative with Sterling Davis called one
United Paw, and that basically is called that because they
want to collaborate over competition. So you see a lot
of rescues that they don't work with each other, or
this rescue just does this and this one does that too,
but they do it a different way. And so they're
talking about cutting down the drama and just working together,
because we can get so much more done if we
all work together instead of separately. So I thought it
was really important to have them speak about that as well.
I also have another speaker. Her name is Nina Leopold.
She is a behavior consultant in South Carolina in Hilton
Head and I came across her accidentally a couple months ago.
On Facebook. She had this cat Flounder, and Flounder uses
the speech buttons, and the video I watched, she was
showing this cat telling her that there was a leak
in her bathroom. Oh sure enough, she went into the
bathroom and there was a leak. I couldn't believe it
when I saw it myself. I'm new to these buttons.
I didn't know anything about this, and I was just
shocked when I saw how this cat was communicating. And
I really wanted to learn more about it, so I
thought I'd invite her to come talk so we can
learn a little bit more about that. Very interesting. And
then the last person I have talking, she's from a
nonprofit called Traps. It's a new nonprofit in Savannah and
it's fantastic. It helps unite people that have lost their
pets in Savannah. We have a lot of people who
travel here or pass through here on ninety five and
right off the highway there's cats get lost there so often.
And so this you now will help with drones and
cameras and different types of traps for cats and dogs
to help reunite them with their pet parents. So I'm
very excited about that as well.
Speaker 2: You have great guests.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 2: It to be a good show, Lisa. You're a veterinary behaviorist,
so from a veterinary behavioris perspective, what should people keep
in mind when visiting a show with you know, meet
and weed cats or maybe therapy cats.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you know Katie's show Whisker Con is different.
It's educational, but I think a lot of pet parents
want to go to shows where they're going to see cats,
and so what I would ask them to do is
be a little critical or maybe a little objective might
be a better word. So educate yourself first on cat
body language. And we know from the studies at least
done in dogs, that pet parents, even really experience, pet
parents aren't able to read body language as well as
we would like them to be able to. So you
can go to my YouTube channel, but a better spot
than my than my channel would be to go to
Better C B A T T E R S e A.
They've got a really nice cat body language section of
their website. They're in the UK, so you know, I
encourage people to kind of educate themselves first, and then
when you go to the show, it's very tempting because
the cats are gorgeous, right, and who doesn't want to
pad a cat? But step back and look at the
body language and see if you can see is that
cat really comfortable? Because often the person handling the cat
will say he's fine, he's fine, right, you see this
this at dog shows to you by the way, and
you might step back and go, gosh, that cat looks
really uncomfortable. His tail is thumping, or his head's turned
away and he will not look directly at me or
his pupils are really round. Cat pupils should be like
slits or almonds. So you know, educate yourself and really
be objective when you go to these shows, and you
will learn a hunt about cat behavior.
Speaker 2: You know, you bring up some good points about behavior.
And one of my favorites where it goes to in
my head is I've I've attended. Now this is a
little different, of course Global Pet Expo, but it was
actually from a service dog. Now, I know there's service cats,
but you know you shouldn't pet them, and I was
interviewing someone who had a service dog in this case,
I said, your dog's beautiful, but I'm not going to
touch him because I know you know better than that,
and he said, thank you. He goes. You'd be surprised
how many parents will go ahead and pet my dog
or try to bet my dog and tell the kids
you're not supposed to pet the dog, and then go
ahead and touch them. Because people can come with their
feline friends, their feline companions, right, and some might have
therapy cats with them.
Speaker 6: Exactly, It just depends ours won't have cats at ours.
But I did see exactly what Lisa was just talking
about at another convention I was at. The cat was
looking away, would it make eye contact? The eyes were dilated,
and I'm like, oh my gosh, like put that cat
back in the carrier, Like it's just too much. Sometimes
I feel like sometimes the pet parents of these cats
that they're bringing around need to be a little bit
more educated on how that cat is actually feeling in
that moment and not what they want.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back everyone. We're talking to Katie and Lisa. Katie
is the show organizer of Whisker con and Savannah Georgia.
But we're also talking with Lisa, who's a veterinary behaviorist,
and we're talking to about you know, if you can't
make it to whisker com Savannah Georgia, Hey you're gonna
miss out, but please check out you know cat shows
in your area. So, Kaiti, what would you say the
core mission or purpose behind whisker Con is and maybe
other similar p line events.
Speaker 6: Well, I can speak to ours, and the purpose is
to just reduce the amount of cats that are entering
shelters and rescues. If we can work with TNR and
reduce the feral cat population, that'll reduce the number of
neonaedal kittens that I need to take care of. Spain
Hooter information really isn't out there like you think it is.
I've seen on my island social media pages the people
will take they'll have a cat, it gets pregnant, and
they give all the kittens away and nobody gets fixed,
nobody gets their shots. And so I really want to
try to reduce the population of people giving kittens out
like that. If they fix them first, by working with
the rescue and letting the rescue take care of that
for them, I think it would really help drastically reduce
the population of cats in Savannah.
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks. How do these shows support the local rescues,
the small businesses in the broader cat community?
Speaker 6: So for our local rescues are all being invited to
the show. So I didn't see that at the other
shows that I've been to, maybe one rescue or two.
I've invited all our local rescues to be represented in
Hairbell Hallway, and I just wanted to give them opportunity
to reach out to the public because they're all in
different areas of the city. Savannah is a big area,
so I just wanted them to have the opportunity. And
the small business owners are very excited about it. We
have a lot of vendors that are coming. We have
small businesses that have donated things to us and they're
going to get marketing benefits from us. And we're also
doing interviews for social media with different businesses in Savannah
that have shopcats. So I think it's going to be
a really great boost for everyone in the area.
Speaker 2: I think so too. Do you hope for long term
benefits such as more cat adoptions? Definitely, there's going to
be more education or maybe stronger community engagement among the
pat community. Is that one of your goals?
Speaker 6: Absolutely, I definitely want the community to be more involved.
When I move tear it was still kind of difficult
to do TNR, So things have really been changing. Savannah
has a large court and there's tons of cats there
and since I moved here, we have been trying and
trying and trying to get them to allow TNR and
they really didn't understand until finally we got a new
person in charge there. We explained how TNR works and
why it works, and they finally for the first time,
have allowed a local feral cat rescue to go in
and trap cats on the port. So I really feel
like this is going to help educate people and help
reduce the amount of cats that we have. Another long
term impact that's important to me is for the local
people that do foster neonatal kittens to learn how to
do it properly.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think those are first of all, great job
on the port getting them to T and R and
then neonatal kittens that we don't have time to get
into all that, but it is way more intense than
just bottle feeding a little kitten and going to sleep
in that. It's a huge procedure.
Speaker 8: It is.
Speaker 6: It is, but we have a lot of people to.
Speaker 2: Do it right. There's not a lot, and I know
Hannah Shaw has done a lot to promote that, but
you're doing so much to also promote it, and I
hope you get a lot of other helpers in your
area for Thank you, and thank you for educating them.
Thank you in advance. Lisa from your professional view, how
do you think cat shows help improve awareness of feline
health here and welfare to the community and probably to
the maybe some of the veterinary hospitals in the area.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I think that the way Whisker Con is headed,
which is a cat show that's about education and not
about showing off let's say a certain breed or several breeds,
et cetera, That is where I'd like to see pet
parents go. I think that is our opportunity to change
the way cats are treated in their pet homes and
to change the pet parents' kind of knowledge of who
their cats are and what their cats need. Because you
and I have talked previously about what I think is
kind of the biggest challenge we have as pet parents
and as veterinary professionals is the difference between pet parent
wants and cat needs. And I think when we go
to a cat show where there's all these different breeds,
it's romanticized. Who doesn't want a main coon for God's sake,
they're gorgeous, right, But who's talking about the help and
welfare of that cat and what that cat really needs
to have the best life for the next twenty years
And I'd like to see pet parents blocking to educational
resources that are also fun, like they're doing at Whisker Con,
so that they will come home with the knowledge to
improve the lives of their pets that are already in
their home.
Speaker 2: And think you kind of answered this question. But I've
had people that I've talked to and they thought, you know,
a cat evan like Whisker Con. Cat Con was mostly, oh,
people dress up their cats and walk around, and so
that's what I've heard from people that have not gone
to a lot of cat shows or maybe went to one,
that that's what that was about.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I feel like they're each different in
their own way. I think they all have different focuses
and you won't see cats at ours, so ours is
going to be a little different in that way as well.
Speaker 5: Well, I can say this, I think that some pet
parents are going to go. Some pet parents are going
to be excited. These are my people, Like Katie said,
some pet parents are going to go. I don't need
to do that. I already know about cats. Why wouldn't
I want to go to a cat ship like instead
of going to learn about cats because I know about
cat That's the greatest misconception is that you think you
know more than you do. You know, we don't know
what we don't know. And I, as a bored in
veterinary behaviors for you know, decades, I'm still learning from
my own cat and from the pet parents that bring
their cats to me. You don't know at all about
your cat, even if you're a true cat lover, and
this is the opportunity to dig deep and to learn
about your kitty, to increase that bond, and to come
home with kind of a new respect and knowledge for
what cats are.
Speaker 2: I couldn't agree with you more. I've had the pleasure
of speaking to probably about three hundred cat professionals over
the years, and I still learn about cats all the time.
I'd like to keep that open mind with everything, because
you know, not just cats. It's served me well and
I try to keep that mindset. But absolutely agree with you. Okay, So,
Katie and Lisa, what changes have you both seen in
the cat world over the last few years that make
events like this more important than ever?
Speaker 6: So what I've seen is a lot lot more on
social media as far as enrichment items and like helping
cats how to scratch properly, or giving cat grass for
the cats that are living inside and don't go outside.
I just feel like social media's really really taught people
a lot more than they ever realized. Years ago, I
would hear people would go out of town and leave
their cat home alone for the entire weekend. And now
I think with all of the information out there on
social media and learning about all the different things that
cats really need. They're not animals that you just lock
up and play with them when you feel like they
need things, and I think people are really starting to
learn more about that. The more people that talk on
social media about enrichment and behavior and things like that,
it's very getting out there. A lot more people are
understanding more.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would agree with Katie, and I would piggyback
on that that companies that make things for animals have
realized that cats are really important. And you know, ten
years ago I had this little short list of things
that I could tell clients to purchase for their cats.
Now my list is so long. There are so many
opportunities to purchase great toys and to entertain your cat.
And you can put shelves on your wall and hammocks
that are near the window. There's just everything, and so
our cats have a lot of opportunities to live better
lives now because companies are realizing that the people that
love cats are more than happy to buy the things
that will help their cats be happy or just like
dog pite parents are way point.
Speaker 2: I absolutely agree. On my other show, it to a
product show, Best Bets for Pats, and we would have
products and every time we talk, I said, well, you
talked about this for dogs, when's the cat version coming out?
And they'd say, ah, you know what, we have to
start thinking that way.
Speaker 5: Yeah, dogs are not hard to entertain cats. You know,
I buy more for my cat than for you know,
when my dog he passed away, but when he was
with us, because the cat is so smart that you
cannot just put a box of toys in front of him.
You have to be thinking what does he want today?
How is today different? Whereas I could put a box
of squeakies in front of my dog and he'd carry
the same squeaky God love him for you know a decade,
and you really have to try to outthink cats, and
so I buy a lot a lot of different things
for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, thank you. If you were each to give
one piece of advice to someone attending Whisker Con, what
would you tell them?
Speaker 6: Well, I would say plan it like a trip. There's
so many things and it's very easy to miss things there.
I would make sure I knew all of the vendors,
all the speakers, Where are they speaking, when are they speaking.
Sometimes there's multiple rooms with multiple things going on at
the same time. So I would look at the schedule
and I would make a plan, and I would also
save some money because there's a lot of really cool
things to get for your cats when you go to
these types of conventions.
Speaker 2: Katie, where can people find out more about Whisker Con
in Savannah, Georgia? And when is it?
Speaker 6: It's Valentine's Weekend, Saturday and Sunday and you can just
go to Whisker Con Savannah on either Instagram or Facebook.
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks Lisa. Do you have any advice you would
give someone tending the Whisker Con in Savannah, Georgia.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going to steal from you, Michelle. I agree
with you, but I'm going to recognize I'm stealing. Peam.
You come with an open mind because for those of
us that have had I've had cats since I was
what like seven years old? Okay, so it's easy to
walk into that and go, she's wrong, she's wrong, that
guy's wrong. Come in with that really curious child's mind.
Because my goal for people that go to Whisker Con
is to come out knowing more than when they came,
so that they're cats and the cats are the people
they know right, will have happier, more fulfilled lives.
Speaker 2: And that is my last question. They say, you just
gave me your answer. I wanted to ask you, what
do you hope every visitor walks away with after attending
Whisker Con. So I guess you're psychic to Lisa, because
why would you say, Lisa, as far as you know,
if there's something that every visitor takes away, what would
you want it to be once they leave Whisker Con.
Besides coming back next year.
Speaker 5: Yes, of course coming back next year. The one thing
I would want them to take away is a little inspiration.
How can they help the kid that don't have homes?
The kiddies that don't have homes are there everywhere, and
it's not just Savannah. It's in your own neighborhood and
it's in your community. And there's so many cats that
need help, and people still believe that you can cut
a cat loose and just put it out and it'll survive, right,
So I hope they come away inspired. What can you
do in your neighborhood. Maybe you cannot be Katie Cohen
and you can't be Twobe feeding kittens, right, but what
can you do to help the cat that don't have anybody?
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you? What would you tell them, Kate? What
do you hope every visitor walks away with after attending
Whisker Con.
Speaker 6: I hope the first thing they think is Wow, that
was amazing, and then I hope that it inspires them
to get involved. Kind of like what Lisa was saying,
but I would love for them to get involved with
the rescue. There's so many different ways. You don't have
to foster. You can drive supplies. We have a program
where we have a pet food bank and we drive
supplies to people that need supplies for their pets. I mean,
there's so many I just really hope that people learn
a lot more, they're more educated, and they're more likely
to get involved and want to help out our community.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you so much, Lison Katie for coming on Catitude,
Katie one more time. Where can people find out more
the website They.
Speaker 6: Can go to Whisker Con Savannah on either Instagram or Facebook.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you so much. I know this show is
going to be fantastic, So again, thank you both for
coming on Catitude.
Speaker 6: Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 7: Thank you.
Speaker 2: I hope everyone listening enjoyed the show. I mean all
of us cut levers. We love our cats and went
better to go to a cat show and find out more,
especially Whisker Con. This is going to be a different
type of show, and I think you're gonna, you know,
if you're able to make it to Savannah, Georgia Valentine's
Day weekend. By the way, it's a romantic kind of
play Savannah, so to highly recommend it for you know,
just for anyone. It's a great way to treat yourself
for Valentine's Day weekend. Anyway, It's Whisker Con Savannah Valentinednesday weekend,
twenty twenty six. I would like to thank doctor Lisa
Radosta as well as Katie Cohen for coming on Catatude
and telling us all about Whisker Con. Thanks to my
cat crew, Dennis, Charlotte and Molly. They continue to teach
me about cats every single day and I am getting
better all the time, always more I could learn. Thank
you to listeners of Cataitude. I appreciate you being so
loyal all over the years. Thank you for your listenership.
And of course the show would not be the same
without the magic of my producer. Thank you so much
Mark Winter for all you do. Editing is not easy
and he is a master, So thank you Mark and
Hey remember lose the attitude, have Catitude.
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