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<v Speaker 1>Hi Bart, good morning. Yes, So John Herdman out in

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<v Speaker 1>a news dump, in a fantastic news dump by Toronto

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<v Speaker 1>FC back on Friday, and before you came on, I

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<v Speaker 1>was discussing the alleged systematic ethical shortcoming attached to Canada

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<v Speaker 1>soccer and to Bev Priestman, who is I guess in

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<v Speaker 1>the soccer equivalent of time out and show cause she

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<v Speaker 1>is Kelvin Sampson now I guess until further noted, and

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<v Speaker 1>John Herdman in the news dump, at least in the

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<v Speaker 1>American news dump sense, and then on a late Friday

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<v Speaker 1>afternoon which was a traditional news dump. Since John Herdman

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<v Speaker 1>out at Toronto FC, personally, I think it's best that's

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<v Speaker 1>what he says. I'm thinking that Toronto FC basically knows

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<v Speaker 1>more than they think that the public knows. They know

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<v Speaker 1>that Eli's common Hydra hart Girl and the hammer might

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<v Speaker 1>be and they don't need to have anything attached to

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<v Speaker 1>John Hrdman with him being under their employer. That's my gut.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think this was a conversation between Toronto and Hardman,

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<v Speaker 2>who is obviously the focus, I mean, if not the

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<v Speaker 2>sole focus of the investigation, the main focus of the

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<v Speaker 2>investigation at this point, and there's an agreement between the

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<v Speaker 2>two parties to just say let's cut ties before. Especially

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<v Speaker 2>for Toronto, this is a cya because they don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to be stuck with any real surprises. They don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to go any further into the offseason not having an

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<v Speaker 2>idea if they're going to have a coach, so they'd

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<v Speaker 2>rather just say, Hey, we're gonna to leave and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>go find someone else.

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<v Speaker 1>And my gut thinks it might be Jim Curtin, who

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<v Speaker 1>wants to be the g SLASH technical director SLASH and

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<v Speaker 1>a coach and have both titles in a place that

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<v Speaker 1>would be the tie Philadelphia where.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I think John I'm still not a

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<v Speaker 2>fan of a coach being both GM.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh neither am I No, neither am I I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I do.

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<v Speaker 2>Think well, yes, I do think Curtain would like more

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<v Speaker 2>control over roster precisions, because that was obviously the reason

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<v Speaker 2>why it didn't go as well as it maybe could

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<v Speaker 2>have in Philadelphia, and especially this year, was the reason

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<v Speaker 2>why they fell so short. But I think Toronto would

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<v Speaker 2>be a better landing place for Curtin than you know,

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<v Speaker 2>some other yep that may exist, particularly very locally, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>but with the difference being that MLS will spend money

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<v Speaker 2>and that is something that I know Curtin would like

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<v Speaker 2>to have. I mean, I don't think Curtin is expecting

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<v Speaker 2>them to spend eighty million dollars a year for him

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<v Speaker 2>or however much they spent whatever it was when they

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<v Speaker 2>bought this, you know, half the Italian national team. That

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<v Speaker 2>is still indicative of a club that is willing to

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<v Speaker 2>spend some money to bring in actually good players up

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<v Speaker 2>and down the roster. And that's something that Curtain hasn't had.

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<v Speaker 2>And also, you know, I think if you're Jim Carton,

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<v Speaker 2>you look at Toronto as a potential academy location where

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<v Speaker 2>you can continue to mold the younger generation. So I

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<v Speaker 2>don't I don't think Toronto's academy has been particularly I

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<v Speaker 2>don't robust product productive. Yeah, yeah, that might be an

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity for him as well, just to kind of take

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<v Speaker 2>some of the things that he's learned from the Philadelphia

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<v Speaker 2>side and put that into Toronto. I mean, Toronto is

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<v Speaker 2>the what the largest city in Canada and one of

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<v Speaker 2>the top five in North America. It's a large city

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<v Speaker 2>and that would in theory mean that you have a

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<v Speaker 2>great deal, talentable from on top of a great fan

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<v Speaker 2>base that could you know, support you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep. Uh and Rich once again making the point curtain

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<v Speaker 1>to toront would hurt more than him going to Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>because it's unlimited budget one hundred Philadelphia. Absolutely true. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but within the salary cap purview, yes, yes, but you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get three actual dps. Hmm, yeah you are, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can. You can. You can drop plenty of you

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<v Speaker 1>can drop plenty of dime on in Tim Horton's gift

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<v Speaker 1>cards and Canadian tire bucks on bringing all of them in.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You had you had you had requested time yees salary

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<v Speaker 1>cap Uh since this was a rivalry weekend in American football.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, you had requested time at the beginning of your

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<v Speaker 1>of your appearance here this week to discuss the situation

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<v Speaker 1>I believe it West by God Virginia and uh I will,

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<v Speaker 1>I will yield the floor. Uh see, we need to

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<v Speaker 1>get you over on the the college football side of things.

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<v Speaker 2>Over you where I got my podcasting start, John.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to get you over on the college football

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<v Speaker 1>side to discuss West by God Virginia. I yield the floor.

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<v Speaker 1>For your opening statement on a reaction Monday to discuss

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<v Speaker 1>American college football and the situation at West by God

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia proceed.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just want to first off say that I've

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<v Speaker 2>felt this season this year with a lot of people saying, well,

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<v Speaker 2>this person is a really good person. This coach is

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<v Speaker 2>just a really great guy, and he's respected and loved,

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<v Speaker 2>but the results in the field don't match that. And

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<v Speaker 2>that has been the frustrating part with my fandom for

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<v Speaker 2>two of my favorite teams this year, and when it

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<v Speaker 2>came to West Virginia specifically, it it was six years

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<v Speaker 2>of not believing the team was going to actually do

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<v Speaker 2>something cool, for great or exciting. We had a decent

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<v Speaker 2>season last year and I think that was really what

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<v Speaker 2>did it. And for Neil Brown, as you had a

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<v Speaker 2>really good close the season in twenty twenty three, you

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<v Speaker 2>get the win over North Carolina up in Charlotte and

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<v Speaker 2>the bowl game, you finished with nine wins, and you go,

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<v Speaker 2>what can you use how can you use this to

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<v Speaker 2>continue to climb to take that message they've been pushing

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<v Speaker 2>for the past six years, And when you finished six

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<v Speaker 2>and six a conference that was severely depleted by the

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<v Speaker 2>two biggest teams leaving and bringing in some teams that

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<v Speaker 2>are not at that level. By the way that you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have to play for the most part, we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>play Colorado, we didn't play Utah, you know, we we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have to play any of the big boys this year.

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<v Speaker 2>That came in. And the fact that you weren't able

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<v Speaker 2>to get to even seven wins during the regular season,

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that you lost both of your games to

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<v Speaker 2>the local rivals, and one of those very badly at

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<v Speaker 2>home to open the season. After again, all this pipe

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<v Speaker 2>was built, and the way that you know, the team

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<v Speaker 2>continued to lose in the similar ways, with bad mistakes

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<v Speaker 2>on individual parts, bad schemes both offensively and defensively. Being nice,

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<v Speaker 2>being a good guy is great, but at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the day, it's a results based business and when

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<v Speaker 2>you're not getting results, you know, there's no reason to

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<v Speaker 2>keep you around. And that's just kind of where and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry to bring it up, but that's just where

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<v Speaker 2>I've always been with the Gonzale Paneda thing is, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a really great dude and he I'm sure people

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<v Speaker 2>love playing for him. You got to win, and at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the day, if it doesn't matter if

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<v Speaker 2>your your players, your guys love playing for you, but

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<v Speaker 2>if you're not winning, what does it matter? You know?

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<v Speaker 2>I think probably could be said of Greg Berholter as well,

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<v Speaker 2>where a lot of the guys playing for Greg but

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<v Speaker 2>can't have results that don't match those expectations. And now

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<v Speaker 2>you've got to find someone who for WU. Anyway, you

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<v Speaker 2>have to find someone who can hopefully continue a decent

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<v Speaker 2>culture that's been built, but get results on the field

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<v Speaker 2>and figure out how to win in a place that

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<v Speaker 2>you're not going to get the best recruiting classes. But

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<v Speaker 2>you've got to maximize the talent and we'll see how

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<v Speaker 2>that goes.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got to go into Pennsylvania and get kids there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you got. I mean, that's the thing for West

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<v Speaker 2>Virginia is you've got Pittsburgh and Philly that are close by.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got the Ohio area which is always talent. You

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<v Speaker 2>got the DMV there. You know, You've got plenty of

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<v Speaker 2>areas to just go get talent outside of your state,

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<v Speaker 2>and you got to maximize it. I mean, West Virginia

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<v Speaker 2>for a while, there is I mean piping amend from

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<v Speaker 2>South Florida too, and we've lost that connection. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was disappointing. It was unsurprising. It was a relief

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<v Speaker 2>when it finally happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Three ranked teams losses this year started to see at

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<v Speaker 1>home against Penn State. You also lost to eleventh thranked

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<v Speaker 1>Iowa State and seventeenth thrank Kansasate, all three of those

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<v Speaker 1>at home. Then you lose backyard brawl thirty eight, thirty four,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you lose two of your last three to

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<v Speaker 1>Baylor at home, yeah, by fourteen. And then in Lubbock

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<v Speaker 1>where Texas Tech put fifty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, wiped in Lubbock. I mean, those tortillas came

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<v Speaker 2>and slapped across the face. You couldn't get up. And again,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to get results. And I think most West

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<v Speaker 2>Virginia fans would agree with me. We're not expecting you

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<v Speaker 2>to win ten eleven games every year. But this particular

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<v Speaker 2>season of the Big Twelve, John was wide open. As

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<v Speaker 2>you clearly see, you've got Arizona State, who's the first

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<v Speaker 2>timer in the conference in the conference has never made

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<v Speaker 2>a conference championship. We've been in this damn league for

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<v Speaker 2>oh goodness. As the person who was there for the

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<v Speaker 2>very first Big twelve game, seventy to sixty three against Baylor.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the problem, right, and Dana, I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>I think Dana's tenure kind of showed where we could

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<v Speaker 2>be in the old Big twelve, which is maybe hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>getting a shot. We were expecting Neil, especially in the

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<v Speaker 2>new Big Twelve, to find a way to get us

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<v Speaker 2>to the actual championship game. And I think that's just

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<v Speaker 2>where we are at is we need to be the

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<v Speaker 2>expectation or the goal of making a conference championship game

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<v Speaker 2>needs to be realistic every year, not just you know, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>a state statement game.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So, uh, now let's go back to now

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<v Speaker 1>that the American football discussion has has gone away, at

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<v Speaker 1>least temporarily until I sit there and vent my spleen

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<v Speaker 1>about my program with a sixty three million dollar buyout. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the reasons that we brought you in other

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<v Speaker 1>than American football was to discuss bomb hops on parade

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<v Speaker 1>in in one day. And it felt at this time

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<v Speaker 1>that was called it looked no. You had ninety eight

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<v Speaker 1>bazillion people yeah, watching Veigman v. Hayes yeh, and it

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<v Speaker 1>ended up a goalless draw.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think if that was if you were to

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<v Speaker 2>evaluate this game as an entirety, that was probably the

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<v Speaker 2>only negative is no goals, and at some point it

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<v Speaker 2>looked like maybe the only goal was going to come

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<v Speaker 2>from a penalty kick, which was very erroneously called. I

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<v Speaker 2>understand why it was called on the field, I truly do.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad that var was implemented to not have that

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<v Speaker 2>as a penalty kick because that was that was not

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<v Speaker 2>a penalty kick. Yes, that's not a handball, you know, John.

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<v Speaker 2>This is one of those where I saw someone tweet

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<v Speaker 2>that they would or skeet. I forget which apple was on,

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<v Speaker 2>but they they were like, you know, we should make

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<v Speaker 2>this kind of a Thanksgiving tradition. Ooh, I like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and back and forth, depending on you know where it is. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't mind a November window always being in Europe. I

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<v Speaker 2>think the US men used to do this a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>especially under Kleansman. I think they should get back to that.

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<v Speaker 2>And it gives you something to just look forward to

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<v Speaker 2>for the Thanksgiving slate. Give you a little different taste

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<v Speaker 2>on your palette other than the football you've been the

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<v Speaker 2>American football you've been in.

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<v Speaker 1>Seriously, if you started your day, you started your day

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<v Speaker 1>You're done by eleven, You get your pregame show done,

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<v Speaker 2>And for you know, a network like T and T

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<v Speaker 2>I believe that they are getting college football for the playoff.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that this.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the type of production you want to give to

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<v Speaker 2>their game when it comes to supporting with the women's side.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know you're getting another one tomorrow with Netherlands.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that that on itself, John is really

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<v Speaker 2>at the US play this game specifically, you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>triple espresso. You don't have Katerina Macario. So those are

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<v Speaker 2>four of your those are your four best attacking players,

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<v Speaker 2>in the center. And then after that, you didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>have like, you know, a the official who's still coming

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<v Speaker 2>back from injury. You didn't really have a true striker,

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<v Speaker 2>which needs to be something MHA figures out long term.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm a little surprised that Ashley Hatch hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>a decent season for Washington. But when you don't have that, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't score any goals, you still created some decent chances.

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<v Speaker 2>You still had opportunities to put the ball in the

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<v Speaker 2>back of the net. You know, Mary rp proved that

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<v Speaker 2>she's pretty darn good. John, I've heard this, so did

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<v Speaker 2>at listen there, you know, And I think defensively you

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<v Speaker 2>were super scary. I thought Germa did a great job.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought Krueger had a pretty decent game. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think that is the takeaway is, well, you didn't give

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<v Speaker 2>up any real chances to a very good England team.

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<v Speaker 2>And although you didn't score any goals without your top talent,

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<v Speaker 2>you still created a decent amount of chances.

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<v Speaker 1>Ten to four in the shots, three to one on target,

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<v Speaker 1>fifty four percent possession. But once again, possession for me

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<v Speaker 2>Says it earned from Friday Night, John means at least.

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<v Speaker 1>Squat Yes, once again Americans in our review. Once again,

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<v Speaker 1>no attack in the midfield look disjointed, nothing hit the target.

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<v Speaker 1>Second half. Now, let's go through the numbers. A listenaire

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<v Speaker 1>gets five. It's like a listener gets a five.

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<v Speaker 2>And we do this.

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<v Speaker 1>Theodore Lloyd Hughes TLH was the one in response for

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers, this time for my friends in soccer America.

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<v Speaker 1>And we do this as a part of either agreeing, disagreeing,

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<v Speaker 1>or refuting the numbers that are presented here, just to

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<v Speaker 1>give everybody a baseline for what went down. So a

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<v Speaker 1>listen there gets a five. Reliable as ever, in all honesty,

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<v Speaker 1>with such peerless performances from the defenders in front of her,

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<v Speaker 1>she had very very little to do, only say she

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<v Speaker 1>had was from Leah Williamson header cornerkick, second half ball

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<v Speaker 1>trickled into the Americans gloves with the ease. So she

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, yeah, I understand what he's saying, but that's bruh.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on defenders once again. Naomi Germa Casey Krueger was

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<v Speaker 1>also and Casey Krueger I needed to pull this. I

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<v Speaker 1>needed to pull this highlight down. But Casey Kruger gives

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<v Speaker 1>just as well as she received. Yeah, at ninety plus,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a moment where it's a goalless draw and

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<v Speaker 1>you're thinking, okay, both sides are thinking, yeah, okay, it's cool,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get out of here. Goals draw. So Casey Krueger

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<v Speaker 1>gets knocked off her feet and gets sent basically into

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<v Speaker 1>the coaches area, the coaches box, and she's down for

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. But then when she gets back up,

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<v Speaker 1>ball is sent forward and she is more than happy

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<v Speaker 1>to dial up a receipt and it was an instant receipt.

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<v Speaker 1>She wasted no time on the payback on this one.

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<v Speaker 2>I really did like that response from her. It was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of funny because you know she got I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>she did get a foul call for that instance on

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<v Speaker 2>the sideline wow, as it should have been a foul,

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<v Speaker 2>and she made sure that that wasn't just the only

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<v Speaker 2>payback that England got for that. And that again, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what this type of game, I mean, this game is

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<v Speaker 2>not friendly. Both of these teams want to win. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean again, England's number two in the world, they want

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<v Speaker 2>to be number one. And if you're talking, England is

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<v Speaker 2>looking at this as the first real step toward preparing

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<v Speaker 2>for Euros twenty twenty five. Well, you're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>get a better team than the US at euro So

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<v Speaker 2>this is the best possible way to look at this

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<v Speaker 2>as to prepare for that tournament.

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<v Speaker 1>There was two hundred and forty eight years of history

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<v Speaker 1>attached to those Also that also that I mean literally,

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<v Speaker 1>but I like that. I like that laid in a

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<v Speaker 1>man absolutely that A you're still dialed in, but B

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<v Speaker 1>you're not gonna take any is ish from someone that

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<v Speaker 1>wants to try to to You know, you can. You

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<v Speaker 1>can give whatever degree of a hit you want. You

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<v Speaker 1>can say it was cheap, you can say it was late,

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<v Speaker 1>you can say it you know, it wasn't it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>square or anything like that. But yeah, someone plows you over.

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<v Speaker 1>Casey Kruger is like, okay, I'll remember that. Oh you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like the Red Wings in the Avalanche where

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<v Speaker 1>they wait three hundred and seventy one ways Jaron McCarty

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<v Speaker 1>to chase after clothing you. It literally was within thirty seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>Casey Krueger adheres to the code and gives the payback.

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<v Speaker 2>I was saying, as she should. That's some also like

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<v Speaker 2>some mom energy of like, uh, you're not getting this

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<v Speaker 1>Emily Fox, Emily Sonnett got six's, No McGear Mccasey Krueger

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<v Speaker 2>On the day, Yeah makes sense. Germa had a really

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<v Speaker 2>good day. I think she again proved how how great

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<v Speaker 2>she is at this sport.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and is always top of the ladder when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to the soccer for US pods MVPs, so you

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<v Speaker 1>always it's Gnomi Girma and then it's like, yeah, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about everybody else. Yeah, all right, so forwards midfield,

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<v Speaker 1>Roosevelt gets a five. Sam Coffee gets a six, Lindsay

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<v Speaker 1>Horan got a four. T LH. Says a somewhat anonymous

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<v Speaker 1>performance for captain Lindsay Horan, who continues to struggle to

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<v Speaker 1>find the passing tempo needed, timing of late runs or

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<v Speaker 1>the box threat. Took more shots three than any other player,

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<v Speaker 1>but they were all rather poor.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a fair assessment of her. I thought Coffee

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<v Speaker 2>was really darn good this game, though. I thought Rose

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<v Speaker 2>had a really good game with a couple of good recoveries.

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<v Speaker 2>Ball recoveries, especially higher up the field, which is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of what I think Hayes realizes is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>necessary for this team to truly generate a lot of chances,

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<v Speaker 2>especially without tr Blispresso. But when you get those three

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<v Speaker 2>in there, uh giving me the ball, you know, ball

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<v Speaker 2>recoveries high up the field are going to be great

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<v Speaker 2>ways to get those players into attack. So I thought

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<v Speaker 2>Rhodes had a pretty good game. I don't think Lindsay

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<v Speaker 2>was a four, but I would also have rated all

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<v Speaker 2>the midfielders a slightly higher rating.

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<v Speaker 1>So Lavelle quiet in the first half looked impressive After

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<v Speaker 1>the break when Yasmine Ryan came off the bench. Ryan's

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<v Speaker 1>pension for underlapping allowed Lavell to drive forward, get into

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<v Speaker 1>the box just one shot off target for level on

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<v Speaker 1>an outing where she passed better than she.

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<v Speaker 2>Attacked, and that well, I'm sure we'll get to her quickly,

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<v Speaker 2>but Yasmin Ryan is the one player you should talk

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<v Speaker 2>about after this game.

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<v Speaker 1>Forward's Emma Seares gets a four. Lynn Williams gets a five,

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<v Speaker 1>Alissa Thompson gets a six. Let's see so.

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<v Speaker 2>She speech, I want to take a beat on Thompson. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>go for This was a great game for Alyssa Thompson,

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<v Speaker 2>not because she played great, but you know who she's

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<v Speaker 2>going up against, John See Brons and I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if you know this, She's she's an elite I have

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<v Speaker 2>heard player I have heard, and I think for Alyssa

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<v Speaker 2>this was a great chance to see what it takes

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<v Speaker 2>to be the best. I mean, Lucy Brown's's top ten

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<v Speaker 2>player period, you know, as a right back, and that

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<v Speaker 2>battle all game. I think Bronze absolutely got the better

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<v Speaker 2>of Thompson for the most part. But I think that

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<v Speaker 2>is a great learning game for a very young Alyssa

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<v Speaker 2>Thompson to again understand what it takes for her, which

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to take for her to level up.

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<v Speaker 1>Could have had the opening goal after five minutes when

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<v Speaker 1>she picked up a Sears pass, took a touch powerful

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<v Speaker 1>shot the corner, IRPs pulls off a good save to

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<v Speaker 1>keep it goalis. After the break, Thompson faded both her

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<v Speaker 1>and Williams removed in the seventy third as it started

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<v Speaker 1>to feel like the USA had stagnated going forward. Lynn

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<v Speaker 1>Williams had almost twice as many caps coming in seventy three.

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<v Speaker 1>Then all the other US forwards on the squad, combined

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<v Speaker 1>to her credit passage in the first half, stopped to

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<v Speaker 1>counter attack and its tracks at the half remains an

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<v Speaker 1>elite presser and counterpresser. Perhaps not the box threat needed

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<v Speaker 1>in this game. Well correct, that was always gonna be.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem is Lynn Williams is not a true nine

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<v Speaker 2>and she doesn't really have the skills to be a

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<v Speaker 2>false nine. That's not her game and it kind of

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<v Speaker 2>showed the whole time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yasmine Ryan, there were three paragraphs written by t lh

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<v Speaker 1>a's Soccer America about Yasmine Ryan. Why were there three

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<v Speaker 1>paragraphs written about the Gotham FC player.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think first off, we didn't see a whole

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<v Speaker 2>lot from her in the October camps. Part of that

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<v Speaker 2>is just because she that was her first time playing

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<v Speaker 2>for the national team. But she came in and changed

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<v Speaker 2>the game. I mean you talked about a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a lull happening midway through that second half. She

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<v Speaker 2>came in and provided not just a spark, but an

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<v Speaker 2>actual outlet for attack. She was making runs in behind,

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<v Speaker 2>she was getting the ball at her feet and trying

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<v Speaker 2>to take on players. It was a really good game

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<v Speaker 2>for me, Ryan to the point where you go, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a woman who after one camp, got her confidence.

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<v Speaker 2>Because sometimes that first national team camp you come in

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<v Speaker 2>and you're just brimming with confidence. You're overflowing with it

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<v Speaker 2>because you're like, oh, I got a call up, you know, finally,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's great. But sometimes it can also be the

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<v Speaker 2>opposite where you're like, oh, man, it's my first camp.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta be perfect. I gotta do this, I gotta

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<v Speaker 2>do that. So, for example, Emma Sears, I think her

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<v Speaker 2>first camp was great because she just kind of played

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<v Speaker 2>the way she always has. I think he has me

421
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<v Speaker 2>and Ryan now figured out how do I play within

422
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<v Speaker 2>the system, how do I use my skill set to

423
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<v Speaker 2>play within this system? Because she's very good on the ball.

424
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<v Speaker 2>She's basically a midfielder who plays out on the wing,

425
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<v Speaker 2>and I think she was able to do that a

426
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<v Speaker 2>lot when she came into this game.

427
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<v Speaker 1>Third ever cap. Multiple slip passes across face goal should

428
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<v Speaker 1>have been finished off cross forced irp's off for line

429
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<v Speaker 1>you need to be punched away. Also had the shot

430
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<v Speaker 1>that almost won the penalty, but then it was reversed

431
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<v Speaker 1>by var Balance made it very hard for England defend

432
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<v Speaker 1>to guess which way she would go.

433
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<v Speaker 2>He said.

434
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<v Speaker 1>Her switching wings during the match to in Frint level

435
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<v Speaker 1>brought out the best in Levell hoped to make and

436
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<v Speaker 1>helped make the field feel bigger if I could speak

437
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<v Speaker 1>English goodly on a Monday.

438
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think the point about Levell is very important

439
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<v Speaker 2>because I think rosevelas best, but she has some wingers

440
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<v Speaker 2>that she can combine with. Both Rose and Lindsay aren't

441
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<v Speaker 2>exactly positionally sound, which is a fine thing. They're very

442
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<v Speaker 2>good at what they do and so Leavell being able

443
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<v Speaker 2>to play off yasmin Ryan on either side was really

444
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<v Speaker 2>fun to watch. It really important for this team going

445
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<v Speaker 2>forward because that is the most similar to what we're

446
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<v Speaker 2>going to see from be it Swanson or Rodman or

447
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<v Speaker 2>even Smith. I mean they're going to interchange a lot

448
00:24:46.519 --> 00:24:49.240
<v Speaker 2>because they're all good on it wherever they happen to

449
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<v Speaker 2>be on the field. So yasmin Ryan being able to

450
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<v Speaker 2>do that is a good plug in for those players

451
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<v Speaker 2>when they're gone.

452
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<v Speaker 1>Jayden Shaw got a five Corbra and Albert got a

453
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<v Speaker 1>five Alley Centiner. Because it comes the eighth different player

454
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<v Speaker 1>twenty one years old or younger to appear for the

455
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<v Speaker 1>USA in twenty four, the most in a calendar year

456
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<v Speaker 1>since what year, sir?

457
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<v Speaker 2>Well? Can I can I get a hint? Sure? Two thousands?

458
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<v Speaker 1>It ain't recent?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably ninety eighty nine or ninety.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, well, okay, I should have said twenty first century,

461
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<v Speaker 1>but it aw Oh, twenty first century, twenty first century,

462
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<v Speaker 1>but it ain't real.

463
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<v Speaker 2>Two thousand and nine, two thousand and two tally include

464
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<v Speaker 2>the twenty twenty three World Cup.

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<v Speaker 1>Including Heather O'Reilly, Hope, Solo, Ali Wagner, I'll be wombat.

466
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess so that makes sense.

467
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, eight different player twenty one years old or younger

468
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<v Speaker 1>to appear for the USA in twenty Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I always feel I forget that that that was the

470
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<v Speaker 2>start of the Hope Solo Abby Womback transition because I

471
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<v Speaker 2>always still think that the ninety nine ers are still

472
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<v Speaker 2>all part of that team and they weren't part of

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty two thousand and three World Cup. It's correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, still undefeated record with the national team now fourteen

475
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<v Speaker 1>to oh to two. Second time the USA's failed to

476
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<v Speaker 1>win since ma Hayes became head coaching June. The other

477
00:26:08.279 --> 00:26:09.759
<v Speaker 1>was a goalless draw against coach.

478
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<v Speaker 2>Ric Yeah, did they really that?

479
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<v Speaker 1>Uh so you had you had the subs yellow cards,

480
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<v Speaker 1>Coffee got one, Kelly got one at ninety plus four.

481
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<v Speaker 1>It was a finish crew f I n n I

482
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<v Speaker 1>s h le Tavada was the ref in the middle.

483
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<v Speaker 1>Hayan and Paavolainen were your ars, Satuminen was your fourth

484
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<v Speaker 1>Anti Munuka was your VR and your aba R was

485
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<v Speaker 1>you can hunkn it. I just like I just like

486
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<v Speaker 1>saying finish last names as we go through here. Shots

487
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<v Speaker 1>on the day us A ten to four shots on target,

488
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<v Speaker 1>three to one air go more saves for England three

489
00:26:50.000 --> 00:26:53.279
<v Speaker 1>to one, six six corners compared to three twelve fouls

490
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<v Speaker 1>called in the match, seven on England, three off sides,

491
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<v Speaker 1>two for England position possession fifty four to forty six

492
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<v Speaker 1>blank and do USA was off to the Hague and

493
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<v Speaker 1>they're going to face off against the Netherlands and their

494
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<v Speaker 1>last match at twenty twenty four tomorrow at two forty

495
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<v Speaker 1>five Eastern time.

496
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I thought if I thought the referee had an

497
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<v Speaker 2>interesting game.

498
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<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, so please proceed sir with your There were

499
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<v Speaker 3>a couple of times that well, first off, in like

500
00:27:23.079 --> 00:27:26.119
<v Speaker 3>the first ten minutes, Lindsey Horand gets absolutely stomped on

501
00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:28.119
<v Speaker 3>and no foul called.

502
00:27:29.599 --> 00:27:32.319
<v Speaker 2>And I thought Haran had a couple of times where

503
00:27:32.319 --> 00:27:35.440
<v Speaker 2>she got fouled and Reugh didn't do anything about it.

504
00:27:35.680 --> 00:27:41.319
<v Speaker 2>But the penalty kick was probably the most controversial and

505
00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:45.160
<v Speaker 2>most important part of the match. I think when it

506
00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:47.079
<v Speaker 2>first happened, we all were like, that didn't look like

507
00:27:47.079 --> 00:27:49.720
<v Speaker 2>in a handball, you know, And the fact that she

508
00:27:49.759 --> 00:27:55.880
<v Speaker 2>gave it was a little I understand why she pointed

509
00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:59.359
<v Speaker 2>to the spot, but it was very clear upon review

510
00:27:59.400 --> 00:28:01.440
<v Speaker 2>that it was not have been given at all for

511
00:28:01.559 --> 00:28:05.480
<v Speaker 2>multiple reasons. Mainly, it didn't hit the non playable part

512
00:28:05.480 --> 00:28:09.440
<v Speaker 2>of the body and also you know, it hit her

513
00:28:09.480 --> 00:28:13.079
<v Speaker 2>thigh and then bounced up, So that was probably a

514
00:28:13.119 --> 00:28:14.559
<v Speaker 2>bad decision to begin with.

515
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<v Speaker 1>Okay. Two instances of refing down here that I wanted

516
00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:20.640
<v Speaker 1>to get into both from the Premier League this week.

517
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<v Speaker 2>All right, Yeah, we never have refing issues in the

518
00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:23.839
<v Speaker 2>Premier League, Johnny.

519
00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:28.200
<v Speaker 1>No, we never do. And one has to do with

520
00:28:28.440 --> 00:28:34.559
<v Speaker 1>a VAR check of four minutes and twenty seven seconds

521
00:28:35.960 --> 00:28:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Brighton in Southampton and the VR eventual decision.

522
00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:42.599
<v Speaker 2>Four minutes it ended like twenty seven to two. Why

523
00:28:42.599 --> 00:28:44.759
<v Speaker 2>did we have that lung of a v VR.

524
00:28:44.519 --> 00:28:50.359
<v Speaker 1>Check, big check to see if the goal that.

525
00:28:50.319 --> 00:28:53.720
<v Speaker 2>Was the wrong one I was watching that was Switch Southampton.

526
00:28:54.240 --> 00:28:56.559
<v Speaker 1>So this and once again what we do for references,

527
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<v Speaker 1>We go to our buddy Dale Johnson, who is a

528
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<v Speaker 1>fantastic job of looking at the moments from the weekend

529
00:29:03.599 --> 00:29:07.079
<v Speaker 1>in the prem that we look at here on Mondays

530
00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:08.799
<v Speaker 1>and we just pull a couple of them unless there's

531
00:29:08.799 --> 00:29:12.240
<v Speaker 1>something else from another match that really just raises our

532
00:29:13.279 --> 00:29:18.359
<v Speaker 1>hair on our collective neck. So now Brighton Southampton Southampton

533
00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:21.359
<v Speaker 1>thought they had a two to one lead and Saints

534
00:29:21.400 --> 00:29:23.839
<v Speaker 1>players go off to celebrate a delay of about thirty

535
00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:28.839
<v Speaker 1>seconds before ref's allow. The onfield officials allowed to disallow

536
00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:33.279
<v Speaker 1>the goal for an offside VAR checked to see if

537
00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:36.599
<v Speaker 1>the goal could be awarded. They eventually wipe the goal

538
00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:41.079
<v Speaker 1>off the board. Now Dale Johnson says it's a decision

539
00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:44.599
<v Speaker 1>which can be explained in law, but it took far

540
00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:47.480
<v Speaker 1>too long, makes the decision seem worse than it otherwise

541
00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:51.200
<v Speaker 1>might have ref and his ar deemed that by flicking

542
00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:56.559
<v Speaker 1>at the ball, Armstrong makes an obvious action which clearly

543
00:29:56.640 --> 00:29:59.519
<v Speaker 1>impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball.

544
00:29:59.599 --> 00:30:01.880
<v Speaker 1>And then that case the opponent was the keeper for

545
00:30:01.960 --> 00:30:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Brighton Bart ver Brugen. For Brugen's on his line didn't move,

546
00:30:05.799 --> 00:30:10.119
<v Speaker 1>so how can he be impacted. The law intends to

547
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<v Speaker 1>prevent an offside player doing something which affects an opponent.

548
00:30:13.920 --> 00:30:16.160
<v Speaker 1>It could be, you know, kicking the ball dummy. We'll

549
00:30:16.160 --> 00:30:18.279
<v Speaker 1>think of it this way, an act which, if not present,

550
00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:22.079
<v Speaker 1>might result in the opponent taking a different decision. For

551
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:24.559
<v Speaker 1>Brugen cannot move from his position at the near post

552
00:30:24.880 --> 00:30:28.119
<v Speaker 1>as the cross from Ryan Fraser goes close. No possible

553
00:30:28.160 --> 00:30:32.400
<v Speaker 1>offense from Armstrong until he flicked his leg out. The

554
00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:35.920
<v Speaker 1>law also says you don't have to think that Armstrong

555
00:30:35.960 --> 00:30:37.920
<v Speaker 1>can score or even get a shot on target, only

556
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<v Speaker 1>that the obvious action has an impact. So could ver

557
00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:44.119
<v Speaker 1>Brugen could have moved over to the center of goal

558
00:30:44.279 --> 00:30:47.400
<v Speaker 1>to archer sooner. The law does not demand that the

559
00:30:47.480 --> 00:30:49.559
<v Speaker 1>keeper has been stopped for making a save, only that

560
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<v Speaker 1>his ability to do so has been impacted.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think yeah, I mean, I think they got

562
00:30:57.240 --> 00:30:59.519
<v Speaker 2>this right. I do think that these types of offside

563
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:02.319
<v Speaker 2>ruling should take a little bit longer because you want

564
00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:05.839
<v Speaker 2>to make sure you are interpreting all that you just

565
00:31:05.920 --> 00:31:10.920
<v Speaker 2>said correctly. Of interfering with active play, that's the rule,

566
00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:13.920
<v Speaker 2>right If you are involved or interfere with active play,

567
00:31:14.079 --> 00:31:17.440
<v Speaker 2>you're going to be considered offside. And in this particular moment,

568
00:31:20.319 --> 00:31:25.079
<v Speaker 2>the lead striker where a ball literally runs right through

569
00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:27.559
<v Speaker 2>his legs and like it kind of basically looks like

570
00:31:27.599 --> 00:31:29.440
<v Speaker 2>it just goes right through his legs and he's in

571
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:33.279
<v Speaker 2>an offside position, or at least goes slightly behind him,

572
00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:37.599
<v Speaker 2>but he does make an action that to me is

573
00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:41.039
<v Speaker 2>absolutely enough to call him off side because he's he's

574
00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:43.359
<v Speaker 2>trying to get he is trying to involve himself an

575
00:31:43.359 --> 00:31:49.000
<v Speaker 2>active play. It's not about touching. He made a play

576
00:31:49.400 --> 00:31:52.759
<v Speaker 2>on a ball from an offside position that has definitely

577
00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:56.000
<v Speaker 2>interfered with the goalkeeper's ability to make a play on

578
00:31:56.039 --> 00:32:00.400
<v Speaker 2>the ball. Period. I think again, as the writer out

579
00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:03.559
<v Speaker 2>got it correct. I do think that the time it

580
00:32:03.559 --> 00:32:07.000
<v Speaker 2>took to get this correct is a problem, and that's

581
00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:09.640
<v Speaker 2>where I do wish that from what I remember, the

582
00:32:09.680 --> 00:32:11.559
<v Speaker 2>referee never went to the monitor for this.

583
00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:12.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so.

584
00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:14.240
<v Speaker 2>I think this is the type of play where the

585
00:32:14.279 --> 00:32:16.160
<v Speaker 2>referee should go to the monitor. It should be a

586
00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:18.960
<v Speaker 2>very quick like, hey, he's in an offside position. We

587
00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:20.759
<v Speaker 2>want you to make sure that you think that he's

588
00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:23.400
<v Speaker 2>not interfering with play, or if he is interfering with play,

589
00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:29.039
<v Speaker 2>let the on field official make that decision. Again, I

590
00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:30.960
<v Speaker 2>think the problem with the Premier League is the center

591
00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:33.640
<v Speaker 2>referee very rarely does go to the monitor, and I

592
00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:35.880
<v Speaker 2>think they should empower them to do that, but they

593
00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:37.920
<v Speaker 2>keep giving someone else who's not involved in the game

594
00:32:37.960 --> 00:32:40.680
<v Speaker 2>at all more power than they should.

595
00:32:41.559 --> 00:32:45.720
<v Speaker 1>Three minutes and twenty three seconds to determine if the

596
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:50.279
<v Speaker 1>action was interrupted, and then another minute and four seconds

597
00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:53.839
<v Speaker 1>to check on the off side.

598
00:32:53.720 --> 00:32:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Which the off side was pretty to me, the offside

599
00:32:56.559 --> 00:33:01.160
<v Speaker 2>was pretty clear the player was offside, and so that's

600
00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:03.119
<v Speaker 2>where I would be looking at it. And this is why,

601
00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:07.920
<v Speaker 2>again I don't understand why when you watch it originally

602
00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:10.160
<v Speaker 2>you should be checking for an offside The goal scorer

603
00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:12.480
<v Speaker 2>was not offside, Okay, fine, but when you looked at

604
00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:15.200
<v Speaker 2>it immediately that patch, you go, oh, that dude is offside,

605
00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:18.359
<v Speaker 2>like he is in an off side position, very clearly,

606
00:33:18.480 --> 00:33:22.680
<v Speaker 2>and in fact, the goal scorer was darn close to

607
00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:27.079
<v Speaker 2>being offside in his own right. So that's where I'm going. Okay,

608
00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:32.359
<v Speaker 2>is very clear that there's an offside question. Yeah, the

609
00:33:32.440 --> 00:33:34.680
<v Speaker 2>goal scorer may have been on side. Okay, fine, check

610
00:33:34.759 --> 00:33:37.359
<v Speaker 2>that off Fine, but then you have to go, well,

611
00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:40.440
<v Speaker 2>this player was in an offside position. Roll the tape. Oh,

612
00:33:40.519 --> 00:33:43.160
<v Speaker 2>that looks like it could be a problem. Hey, I

613
00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:46.880
<v Speaker 2>forget who the center referee was, but hey, John, go

614
00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:48.599
<v Speaker 2>go to the monitor. See if you think that this

615
00:33:48.799 --> 00:33:52.599
<v Speaker 2>was interfering with active play the goalkeeper's ability to make

616
00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:58.160
<v Speaker 2>a play on the ball. And good job that. I'm

617
00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:00.240
<v Speaker 2>not saying it would have taken less time. But I

618
00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:02.279
<v Speaker 2>think the problem is when you're just have the center

619
00:34:02.319 --> 00:34:05.200
<v Speaker 2>referee standing there almost twiddling his thumbs waiting for you know,

620
00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:07.759
<v Speaker 2>putting his hand up to his ear, going oh I'm checking,

621
00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:11.679
<v Speaker 2>they're checking. It just seems so passive versus a referee

622
00:34:11.679 --> 00:34:14.760
<v Speaker 2>going to a monitor to go look at it. To say, okay,

623
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<v Speaker 2>what do I think happened here, especially when in this

624
00:34:18.360 --> 00:34:21.559
<v Speaker 2>case it was very clear the player was offside. This

625
00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:24.599
<v Speaker 2>is not about MLS telling them to go to a

626
00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:27.880
<v Speaker 2>monitor to maybe determine if they're offside or on side.

627
00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:31.320
<v Speaker 2>We know they are because the primary league has that technology.

628
00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:34.159
<v Speaker 2>So then for me, the next step should be on

629
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<v Speaker 2>field official needs to look at the play to determine

630
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<v Speaker 2>if this was offside or not.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, and so if you go, if you work backwards,

632
00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:44.440
<v Speaker 1>let's just say you work backwards, even if you don't

633
00:34:44.440 --> 00:34:48.440
<v Speaker 1>go to the monitor. The off side decision was a

634
00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:51.280
<v Speaker 1>minute four That should have been the easiest one. To

635
00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:53.679
<v Speaker 1>sit there and go yes, no, it's like ding ding

636
00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:57.199
<v Speaker 1>ding boom, and then you move on and then working backwards.

637
00:34:57.199 --> 00:34:59.400
<v Speaker 1>It would not have taken four minutes and twenty seven

638
00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:01.400
<v Speaker 1>seconds to come up with a decision A. If you

639
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:02.920
<v Speaker 1>go to the monitor and take a peek with me.

640
00:35:03.639 --> 00:35:06.719
<v Speaker 1>B maybe if you work backwards and go okay offside

641
00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:09.000
<v Speaker 1>not offside? Okay, ding ding ding, We got that taken

642
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:11.280
<v Speaker 1>care of. It takes with fifteen twenty seconds and then

643
00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:12.719
<v Speaker 1>you go when you focus on the other three and

644
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:15.119
<v Speaker 1>a half minutes, it's get something done with two acts.

645
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:18.119
<v Speaker 2>I think to have that action take three and a

646
00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:24.119
<v Speaker 2>half minutes to review his crazy Honestly, go.

647
00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:28.039
<v Speaker 1>To the monitor, people, it ain't it's just look, you're

648
00:35:28.039 --> 00:35:30.320
<v Speaker 1>not gonna hurt my feelings if you go to the monitor.

649
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:32.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to think less of you, of an individual.

650
00:35:32.440 --> 00:35:34.920
<v Speaker 2>If you go to the monitor and again, then it

651
00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:37.360
<v Speaker 2>puts that hand the decision making in the hands of

652
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:41.239
<v Speaker 2>the on field official, which is I think what most

653
00:35:41.239 --> 00:35:42.599
<v Speaker 2>people would be more comfortable with.

654
00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:47.760
<v Speaker 1>Yep. Item number two comes from Liverpool Manchester City and

655
00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:52.360
<v Speaker 1>it's the Ortega penalty call. As he goes and he

656
00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:56.840
<v Speaker 1>chases after this one, and this is an important point

657
00:35:56.960 --> 00:36:00.000
<v Speaker 1>that needs to be made in these kinds of situation

658
00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:04.239
<v Speaker 1>waits where I know that there was hue and cry,

659
00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:06.639
<v Speaker 1>and there was quite a hue and quite a cry

660
00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:12.880
<v Speaker 1>about it being nothing there because Ortega was making a

661
00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:14.960
<v Speaker 1>play for the ball and it looked like Diaz just

662
00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:19.320
<v Speaker 1>basically fell over Ortega and you get the penalty call.

663
00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:24.519
<v Speaker 1>So Luis Diaz chasing after a loose ball Stephan Ortega

664
00:36:24.599 --> 00:36:31.480
<v Speaker 1>is first to get to the ball, but then Luis Diaz,

665
00:36:31.639 --> 00:36:36.079
<v Speaker 1>who is second, ends up making contact with Ortega as

666
00:36:36.199 --> 00:36:39.360
<v Speaker 1>Ortega is stretching to make contact. Luis Diaz goes over

667
00:36:39.400 --> 00:36:42.960
<v Speaker 1>the top of Ortega and it is called a penalty.

668
00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:47.679
<v Speaker 1>It is then reviewed, the penalty stands. So was there

669
00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:51.199
<v Speaker 1>a case for offside? Was there a case for a

670
00:36:51.320 --> 00:36:56.679
<v Speaker 1>red on Ortega? And was this even a penalty or

671
00:36:56.960 --> 00:36:59.679
<v Speaker 1>was Luis Diaz kind of sitting there and fishing for

672
00:36:59.719 --> 00:37:01.960
<v Speaker 1>a car? So this is what we're staring at in

673
00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:07.320
<v Speaker 1>this particular instance. Yeah, so a lot. There's a lot

674
00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:10.280
<v Speaker 1>to unpack here. And if you want to go through

675
00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:13.599
<v Speaker 1>it in real time or instance to instance to instance

676
00:37:13.639 --> 00:37:15.599
<v Speaker 1>instead of staring at it from thirty thousand feet and

677
00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:16.920
<v Speaker 1>you want to walk through the play, go ahead and

678
00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:18.119
<v Speaker 1>walk through the play as you see it.

679
00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:22.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, so this is this is where I understand it's

680
00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:28.760
<v Speaker 2>tough because most people are going to say or take

681
00:37:28.840 --> 00:37:30.760
<v Speaker 2>a oh, well he gets the ball, or some level

682
00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:34.760
<v Speaker 2>of that type of commentary. Right, I just want to

683
00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:39.800
<v Speaker 2>reiterate that winning the ball as a defender does not

684
00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:49.760
<v Speaker 2>mean that you are excused from making a foul. And

685
00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:56.760
<v Speaker 2>I think that's the problem here is you can argue

686
00:37:57.280 --> 00:38:01.280
<v Speaker 2>that in this case the goalkeeper is they are first. Yeah,

687
00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:05.760
<v Speaker 2>I think you can, But did they get the ball first.

688
00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:12.280
<v Speaker 2>And that's the question. I I don't know, John, This

689
00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:15.760
<v Speaker 2>is the tough one because I get the point, but

690
00:38:16.559 --> 00:38:20.039
<v Speaker 2>because there's very minimal contact. But the reality is the

691
00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:22.960
<v Speaker 2>goalkeeper doesn't touch the ball, right, he doesn't. He may

692
00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:29.079
<v Speaker 2>get to the place first, but he doesn't touch the ball.

693
00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:32.360
<v Speaker 2>So the attacker having to jump over them.

694
00:38:34.440 --> 00:38:38.400
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't. The attacker is the attacker does not have

695
00:38:38.519 --> 00:38:40.000
<v Speaker 1>to take evasive action.

696
00:38:40.280 --> 00:38:42.880
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't have to. He could have just ran over

697
00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:44.760
<v Speaker 2>or ran through him, you know. And then we're talking

698
00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:48.559
<v Speaker 2>about having a fight because someone's mad about that him

699
00:38:48.639 --> 00:38:50.920
<v Speaker 2>running into the goalkeeper, and so to me is like, well,

700
00:38:50.920 --> 00:38:55.320
<v Speaker 2>he at least tried to avoid him. Yeah, do I

701
00:38:55.320 --> 00:39:00.960
<v Speaker 2>think he was probably I don't even know, you know,

702
00:39:01.199 --> 00:39:02.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't think he was looking for a foul that

703
00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:05.119
<v Speaker 2>bad thing. Anyway, Again, he didn't really drag his feet.

704
00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:06.719
<v Speaker 2>He tried to chip the goalkeeper and go over m

705
00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:10.960
<v Speaker 2>because he knew he could probably score from there. And

706
00:39:11.320 --> 00:39:13.559
<v Speaker 2>again I think the goalkeeper gets the spot first. I

707
00:39:13.559 --> 00:39:15.280
<v Speaker 2>don't know if he gets any of the ball, but

708
00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:19.400
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't intentionally get the player. But he's in the

709
00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:20.960
<v Speaker 2>path of the player to get to the ball, and

710
00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:23.199
<v Speaker 2>he's not in a position to play it at that

711
00:39:23.239 --> 00:39:25.280
<v Speaker 2>point in time. And that is the problem with the

712
00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:27.360
<v Speaker 2>goalkeeper when they go to the ground like that specifically,

713
00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:30.360
<v Speaker 2>or any defender when they go to the ground. Once

714
00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:32.840
<v Speaker 2>you have committed to the ground to winning that ball,

715
00:39:33.280 --> 00:39:36.119
<v Speaker 2>well you're no longer in consideration for playing that ball

716
00:39:36.119 --> 00:39:37.639
<v Speaker 2>once it goes past you. You know what I'm saying.

717
00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:39.480
<v Speaker 2>So it's hard for me to say like, oh, they're

718
00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:41.400
<v Speaker 2>within playable distance now, It's like, well, the ball is

719
00:39:41.440 --> 00:39:43.719
<v Speaker 2>behind them and they're laying on the ground, so what

720
00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:45.719
<v Speaker 2>is playing? What is a playable distance at that point?

721
00:39:47.920 --> 00:39:50.239
<v Speaker 2>I think eventually the I think this is probably the

722
00:39:50.280 --> 00:39:53.639
<v Speaker 2>correct call. But this goes to one of those like, yeah,

723
00:39:53.679 --> 00:39:54.760
<v Speaker 2>it's a foul, but it should it.

724
00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:58.599
<v Speaker 1>Be a penalty kick as it is class Yeah, that's

725
00:39:58.639 --> 00:40:01.960
<v Speaker 1>the problem a trauma seeing attack on a penalty rather

726
00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:03.440
<v Speaker 1>than dogs no yellow cards.

727
00:40:03.639 --> 00:40:05.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so yeah, this is not dog so because there's

728
00:40:05.800 --> 00:40:08.079
<v Speaker 2>a legitimate play on the ball, right, I mean, as

729
00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:10.320
<v Speaker 2>as simple as that, right, I mean, he is absolutely

730
00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:12.159
<v Speaker 2>the last of vendor is absolutely a dog so thing.

731
00:40:12.679 --> 00:40:14.800
<v Speaker 2>But because I mean, I think it's fair to say

732
00:40:14.840 --> 00:40:17.239
<v Speaker 2>this goalkeeper was making he wasn't trying to file the player.

733
00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:19.920
<v Speaker 2>He was trying to the ball. He just didn't, right,

734
00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:23.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean I I don't even think he like reached

735
00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:24.039
<v Speaker 2>out and tried to grab him.

736
00:40:24.039 --> 00:40:26.880
<v Speaker 1>From what I can tell, you know, he's thinking ball first,

737
00:40:27.039 --> 00:40:28.360
<v Speaker 1>and whatever happens happened.

738
00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:31.440
<v Speaker 2>And so when we when we classify this as dogs,

739
00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:36.199
<v Speaker 2>it's probably dogs, so yellow is maybe what they called it,

740
00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:40.480
<v Speaker 2>versus stopping a promising attack. But regardless, this outcome is

741
00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:43.039
<v Speaker 2>because we this is not a red card because there

742
00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:45.800
<v Speaker 2>was a legitimate play on the ball in the penalty area.

743
00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:47.519
<v Speaker 2>We don't want to give teams both a red card

744
00:40:47.920 --> 00:40:52.480
<v Speaker 2>and a penalty kick aka a goal down. You know,

745
00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:57.519
<v Speaker 2>that's where we are now. At the same time, you know,

746
00:40:57.760 --> 00:41:02.039
<v Speaker 2>I know it's it's unfair to call any penalties against

747
00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:08.360
<v Speaker 2>Manchester City. That's somehow so sure you know those checks

748
00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:10.840
<v Speaker 2>stopped clearing all of a sudden, I think is what happened.

749
00:41:11.440 --> 00:41:14.119
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that is just not a dog so red

750
00:41:14.159 --> 00:41:17.079
<v Speaker 2>because there is a legit this is a legitimate play

751
00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:20.239
<v Speaker 2>to win the ball. He just doesn't. And again even

752
00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:23.119
<v Speaker 2>if he had gotten a piece of it, he still

753
00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:26.599
<v Speaker 2>comes through and clears out the attacker. Again, winning the

754
00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:29.119
<v Speaker 2>ball does not preclude you from fouling someone.

755
00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:31.760
<v Speaker 1>All right, So what's going on with the soccer for

756
00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:36.119
<v Speaker 1>US PO D Are you waiting for the next match?

757
00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:42.159
<v Speaker 2>The match tomorrow which is as you mentioned in Didn't

758
00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:48.519
<v Speaker 2>Hug against Netherlands And we will be recording for the

759
00:41:48.559 --> 00:41:52.840
<v Speaker 2>episode after that later this week, maybe trying to get

760
00:41:52.840 --> 00:41:55.360
<v Speaker 2>some different voices on here. Hopefully they respond and say

761
00:41:55.360 --> 00:41:59.199
<v Speaker 2>they can do it and kind of the it for

762
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:04.800
<v Speaker 2>actual matches. This The final US Soccer match of the

763
00:42:04.840 --> 00:42:08.679
<v Speaker 2>season is tomorrow, and then we'll be having some kind

764
00:42:08.679 --> 00:42:11.639
<v Speaker 2>of year in review and twenty twenty five look forwards

765
00:42:12.039 --> 00:42:17.719
<v Speaker 2>always like to do those like resolutions for US Soccer

766
00:42:18.239 --> 00:42:19.719
<v Speaker 2>will come up in the new year. But we'll also

767
00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:22.880
<v Speaker 2>have some of our our our favorite moments of twenty

768
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:26.320
<v Speaker 2>twenty four coming out right before Christmas, and I'm sure

769
00:42:26.960 --> 00:42:31.000
<v Speaker 2>doing some other things for the festive not festive fixtures,

770
00:42:31.039 --> 00:42:32.960
<v Speaker 2>the festive what's the word we want to the festive

771
00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:39.239
<v Speaker 2>foolishness that does during the holiday weeks and all that

772
00:42:39.960 --> 00:42:42.639
<v Speaker 2>absolutely what do you want to call it? Well, it's

773
00:42:42.679 --> 00:42:43.719
<v Speaker 2>just holiday hullabaloo.

774
00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:47.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there you go. Yeah, So the yeah, the the

775
00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:50.280
<v Speaker 1>shenanigans that we have during December as.

776
00:42:50.159 --> 00:42:51.639
<v Speaker 2>We get ready Shenanigans.

777
00:42:51.679 --> 00:42:54.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, the Holida Hullabaloo and the seasonal Shenanigans

778
00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:59.159
<v Speaker 1>where we where we try to pronounce finish, uh yeah,

779
00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:04.440
<v Speaker 1>finish referee cruise as best we can. Uh. Yes. We're

780
00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:07.960
<v Speaker 1>looking forward to episode CV where you do not where

781
00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:09.480
<v Speaker 1>you do not have to put up your resume, but

782
00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:12.000
<v Speaker 1>you'll be looking at the US May after a full

783
00:43:12.039 --> 00:43:14.000
<v Speaker 1>season of twenty twenty four. We will be catching up

784
00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:17.400
<v Speaker 1>with you obviously again next week and whenever the hell

785
00:43:17.440 --> 00:43:19.800
<v Speaker 1>you wanna come drop by and vent about West By God,

786
00:43:19.880 --> 00:43:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Virginia and anything else going on in Bowl season.

787
00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:24.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, don we do have a Minimalist Cup

788
00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:28.480
<v Speaker 2>final coming up this Saturday, so I must I will,

789
00:43:28.519 --> 00:43:29.880
<v Speaker 2>I will say I will not be able to watch

790
00:43:29.880 --> 00:43:32.039
<v Speaker 2>it live. I'll be at a Casey Musk Graves concert

791
00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:35.679
<v Speaker 2>and so I'm doing two nights in a row with her.

792
00:43:35.960 --> 00:43:38.280
<v Speaker 2>But I'll be watching it on Sunday on my drive home.

793
00:43:40.679 --> 00:43:42.639
<v Speaker 1>I assume someone else will be driving while you're watching.

794
00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:47.679
<v Speaker 2>On my ride home, I should say checking and we'll

795
00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:50.760
<v Speaker 2>be ready. I'm sure, John, we will have to talk

796
00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:55.280
<v Speaker 2>about referee wise on my whole Yes, of course, I

797
00:43:55.559 --> 00:44:02.960
<v Speaker 2>do have to say, John, Ricky Puig whatever with the strained, torn, torn,

798
00:44:03.280 --> 00:44:08.599
<v Speaker 2>house severed, acl torn, insane. That he's still able to

799
00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:12.280
<v Speaker 2>play that and play as I mean, that is for him,

800
00:44:12.320 --> 00:44:15.199
<v Speaker 2>but that is a huge loss for Galaxy going to

801
00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:19.039
<v Speaker 2>this match. I don't know if it changes like that.

802
00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:22.159
<v Speaker 2>I still think they're the favorite, but man, that's cool.

803
00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:27.239
<v Speaker 2>Also shout out to some women's soccer history. This will

804
00:44:27.239 --> 00:44:30.280
<v Speaker 2>be the first MLS Cup Final, another MLS Cup Final,

805
00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:33.199
<v Speaker 2>as you say, hosted in a World Cup final stadium.

806
00:44:33.239 --> 00:44:33.960
<v Speaker 2>That's pretty cool.

807
00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:37.840
<v Speaker 1>There you go, But no, definitely going to be looking

808
00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:39.440
<v Speaker 1>at it all week long and trying to figure out

809
00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:43.000
<v Speaker 1>what's going on. Jay Intlick, head coach for Columbus State,

810
00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:44.800
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be joining us on the women, for

811
00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:47.440
<v Speaker 1>the women as they continue to advance. He's going to

812
00:44:47.480 --> 00:44:49.199
<v Speaker 1>be joining us tomorrow morning at nine thirty to break

813
00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:51.000
<v Speaker 1>down what happened on the weekend and talk from some

814
00:44:51.079 --> 00:44:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Division two women's soccer as well.

815
00:44:53.800 --> 00:44:56.440
<v Speaker 2>Division one soccer up the Seaton this weekend.

816
00:44:56.519 --> 00:44:59.440
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so we're going to be taking dives into

817
00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:01.760
<v Speaker 1>college se and going through all that stuff. So we

818
00:45:01.800 --> 00:45:04.559
<v Speaker 1>will be enjoying episode CV. My friend coming out later

819
00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:06.719
<v Speaker 1>on this week and once again whenever you want to

820
00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:07.480
<v Speaker 1>drop in, drop in.

821
00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, cheers y'all.

822
00:45:09.159 --> 00:45:10.679
<v Speaker 1>There, he goes, So what's the mug by the way?

823
00:45:10.679 --> 00:45:11.360
<v Speaker 1>I forgot to ask?

824
00:45:11.400 --> 00:45:14.719
<v Speaker 2>So happy as it? Just as happy holidays, because today

825
00:45:14.760 --> 00:45:18.079
<v Speaker 2>is the first Yeah, it's the first day that I've

826
00:45:18.079 --> 00:45:19.280
<v Speaker 2>seen you of the Christmas season.

827
00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:22.760
<v Speaker 1>So okay, And so this is when everybody starts hanging

828
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:23.800
<v Speaker 1>up all of their stuff.

829
00:45:24.280 --> 00:45:27.840
<v Speaker 2>Nice. Well I can't see, but my stuff is starting

830
00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:28.800
<v Speaker 2>to go up. Okay.

831
00:45:29.679 --> 00:45:31.719
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, we got we got the tree yesterday and

832
00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:34.079
<v Speaker 1>we're waiting for the tree to flu before we add

833
00:45:34.119 --> 00:45:36.599
<v Speaker 1>all of the appropriate to My tree will.

834
00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:39.360
<v Speaker 2>Be going up today and tomorrow probably.

835
00:45:39.559 --> 00:45:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Yes, all right, be good, my friend. We'll see you soon.