Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented by fan Tracks.
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that there is Victor Nunio, the Fantasy Hockey Doctor. Victor,
how you doing today?
Speaker 1: I am doing awesome, Jesse. This is a fun team
to cover. There's a lot of exciting news and exciting
new players and I'm looking forward to breaking it all
down and hearing from our awesome guests.
Speaker 2: How you doing, my friend, I'm good, I'm good. Yeah.
It is a It is the funnest, really terrible team
I can remember in recent years. But there is a
ton of intrigue involving them, and yeah, I think this
is going to be a good I don't mean it
as an insult to say that they're terrible. That was
the point. And they're doing a good job of it,
and they're going to get their resources and they're gonna
build their way up. They're already doing it, and that's
the san Jose Sharks, just as a spoiler alert, as
if you didn't know it when you saw the title
of the episode. Yeah, I don't know, Victor. We're moving on.
We're getting very near the draft. Are you getting psyched
up for that?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I'm getting psyched up for it. It's gonna be interesting.
I should I plan on being there, just waiting for
their credentials to come through, but I'm told that they
absolutely should. And yeah, it's gonna be a weird draft.
It's gonna be the first one that's decentralized, and rumors
are it might be the last one and done and
go back to the old way. I hope that's true.
We'll see. But yeah, I'm excited to see all the
players there and connect with all the scouts and reporters
and guests who tend to come on the show and
usually it's a good time to check in with them
in person and just yeah, hear all the draft butts.
So I'm excited for that, are you?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean that, I'm really looking forward to our
draft content because some of that is going to turn
into episodes. Its victory is gonna have some material to
reach out to everybody about, and I think people are
gonna like that. But I'm hoping the draft goes back
to centralized victory because there's nothing I like more than
turning on TV and seeing the floor when all the
teams are there and there's thirty hockey men sitting at
a square table that obviously is designed to seat like twelve,
and they all have their knees like locked against each
other and I don't even know how they're sitting there.
It's extremely fun. And they're all wearing suits, sometimes matching
suits of strange colors. Yeah, there's great entertainment value and
the NHL Draft as it normally is, but it will
still be of great entertainment value this year victory. Yeah,
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Probably you'll probably be done by the time this episode airs,
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Speaker 2: You're right back to talk some Sharks. Joining us once
again today to talk San Jose Sharks from San Jose
Hockey Now from NBC Sharks. It's Shang Pang. How you
doing today? Shang, Hey, how's it got good? Sir? Good.
We're excited to talk about the Sharks. This is a
fascinating team. It was really last year not was it
a good outcome, which was exactly according to plan. It
seems to me you were building up around one guy.
He was the main story of the season, that number
one overall pick who we will be getting to here
pretty shortly on the episode. But they were also last
in the standings points by nine points. That big of
a gap hadn't happened in last five seasons between second
to last and last. It was also the Shark's second
straight year at the bottom, but no accident. They scored
the fewest goals and allowed the most. That's what's going
to get you into last place. But they're building for
the future, there's no question about that. They traded almost
anybody with positive value and old enough to rent a
car as far as I can tell, including Michael Backland,
Fabian zeterlind Tristan Robbins, Luke Cunnen, Mackenzie Blackwood, Jake Wallman,
Cody CC and Nico sterm. In other words, we could
have done an entire team preview of just those players.
Had we had they all still remained Sharks today. It's
too many blows to sort out. In terms of the
guys who've all went away, we can't cover every one
of those, But just overall, what's the verdict. Are we
at the rock bottom now and it's time to start
climbing with the prospects who are coming in or did
the Sharks suspect that this is going to be going
for a while.
Speaker 4: One big thing is the plan didn't go quite according
to plan because the Shark's got the number two pick
and not the number one pick in the twenty twenty
five drafts, So I think that's one critical distinction. But
I think that it is definitely time to start getting better,
especially if you have a guy like a Maclin Celabrini,
a foundational piece. If you did not have a piece
like that, you're still looking for that, then I get
taking maybe taking your time, maybe tanking a little longer.
But I don't think you can you can and should
do that to Macklin because that's a guy who wants
to win, and when it is his time to become
a free agent, it's not going to reflect well if
you're if you waste the first two three years of
his career saying that the Sharks need to make the
playoffs next year, of course, but I do think they
need to take some very meaningful steps of progress and
start keeping some players instead of just like you mentioned,
selling anybody that can rent a car.
Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna start with one of those guys who
can definitely not rent a car yet because he's still
a teenager. That's Macklin celebrating. Of course we're gonna start
with him, and he, I would say, lived up to
the hype of being a number one pick sixty three
points in seventy games as an eighteen year old, seventy
four point pace match Nathan McKinnon's rookie year total, but
in fewer games. Not saying that he's going to have
the career McKinnon has had so far, but I think
it certainly seems like the sky's the limit here. Looking
at some of his underlying numbers, he was pretty good
offensively sixty second percentile according to Evolving Hockey. His defense
was rated at thirtieth percentile. But frankly, I think that
was a more reflection on the team than it was
on Maclin individually, and I think that there's definitely, with
more talent around him, huge room for improvement. Shang, what
did you see from your perspective and what do you
think we can expect from Maclin next season and beyond
We Like.
Speaker 4: You said, the sky is the limit, and actually I
think that he exceeded expectations. I don't know if going
to the season people thought that Macklin would be reframing
or really setting the celebrating Badard argument. There wasn't really
a celebrating Bdard argument so much during the twenty twenty
fourth draft and after that, but with how good Macklin
was at both ends of the ice, and with Badard
and the Blockhawks maybe not taking more of a step that. Now,
that is a legitimate conversation, and actually I think the
majority of people you would ask now, and I'm talking
about people in the industry, they would probably take Macklin
over Badard. And so, like you mentioned, the sky is
the limit. You do mention a great cautionary tale though
in McKinnon. There that McKinnon obviously had a tremendous rookie year,
but then it to he scuffled for a couple of
years there before he found his form as a hard
trophy candidate. And so I only mentioned that not because
I think that's going to happen to Macklin, but because
you knew how to be careful about putting too much
on the shoulders of one player. But again, the sky
is the limit, and that is you can't say that
about a lot of players in this league, but you
can't say that about Macklin's Librini.
Speaker 2: Well, another player who is continuing to be on the rises,
William Ecklund, the most established probably of this young core.
He jumped to fifty eight points, about three quarters of
a point per game because He played seventy seven over
two shots and over half a black and half a
hit per game. This was his second full season of
in Eckland's NHL career. Really, Celebrini was his most common
line mate, although it wasn't even half his five on
five minutes. So there's a lot more opportunity to get
those guys together if that's what the Sharks want to do.
What did you see of Eklund's development this year and
will he take another step or maybe a big step
as this team continues to coalesce around him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a good chance of that with Ecklin. With Ecklynn,
you saw just little improvements, right, Maybe there wasn't any outstanding,
just really like eye catching improvement. But he just got
a little better with his proct protection, a little better
with his pace, a little better with his decisions, a
little better defensively, a little better shot, just a little
better in a lot of areas. That shows that he
worked hard on his game or he did a lot
and over the summer to get better. And so I
think with William, I think that there is a potential
there too. Maybe he does have that point per game potential.
I wasn't really sure if he would get there, but
we'll see or maybe it caps out a little more
in the sixty seventy Rangers. Is still very okay, that's
a very valuable player to have. So I think that
we're still waiting to see what the absolute ceiling for
William Eckln is. I think there was also possibility that
he improves defensively and he adds more of that to
his game, and so there's a value to that. But
I think that he is also I wouldn't quite say
this guy is quite the limit like it is with Macklin,
but definitely though that we don't know what his end
is yet, and so in terms of fantasy pick or whatnot,
he's an exciting sleeper pick.
Speaker 2: Also, Tyler to Folly is next up your team expected
goals ABUB replacement leader. Fully was the veteran of the
group obviously this year. Of the guys who remained on
the team all the way through the year, he played
a lot of minutes with the young budding stars too.
He wears an alternate captain A for the team. There
is no there is no captain right now for the Sharks,
and the now thirty three year old was not traded
with all those other veterans, presumably because he's got a
full no move clause. That's that's what's going to keep
you on the team, even though you're driving them cars,
those rent up cars six million dollars for three more years.
He's maybe a nice piece to continue to add good
respectability to the lineup, good veteran presence, that type of stuff.
Pretty decent that even in the scoring suppressed context of
the Sharks not having a lot of offense last year,
he produced a near photocopy of his prior year, which
was split between the Devils and the Jets, which were
teams that can score a bit. What do you expect
for Tyler to Foley in the new season. Is going
to be bumped to lower minutes, maybe by the emergency
more young guys, or is he gonna remain in a
primo role with the Sharks.
Speaker 4: I would expect them to still be in a top
role for the Sharks unless they make a big splash
this offseason. I'm not sure who would that be, and
I don't expect too big a splash from them, so
I think there's a good chance that I won't come
training camp that Tyler t to Foley is their top
shooting option on the power play like he was this
past season, and in that scenario, I would expect the
Follie to keep putting up what exactly he's been doing
just thirty goal seasons. And it's the one thing that's
very impressive about Tyler. He has four thirty goal seasons.
Three of those four to thirty goal seasons have been
in the last three seasons, so I think he's figured
out really something in his game too. And the Sharks
need to add more guys like that too. But unless
they add a guy much better than at the folly,
and there's not a lot of guys out there in
terms of just being a peer scorer of pier sniper
that he looks likely to still be the go to
shooting option on the power play.
Speaker 1: Indeed, one of the guys who might help with that
long term is Will Smith will cover him next. He
definitely struggled a bit in the first half thirty seven
games played, six goals, eight assists for fourteen points, which
was a thirty one point pace, But then the second
half took a huge step forward thirty seven games played
and ended up at a sixty nine point pace. I
will say defensively, it didn't look great a lot of
the times. He ended up at just third percent centile
according to Evolving Hockey in terms of its defensive metrics,
although offensively rated out at seventieth percentile, so certainly very
good there. Part of it might have been his time
initially playing with guys like Luke Kuonan and Barklay Goodrow,
and then eventually towards the end of the season earning
I would say, his way up the lineup to play
with Celebrini, which definitely looked a lot better. And those
two seem to just get along so well off and
on the ice, so that seems like it might be
a good partnership moving forward. I've long thought that Smith
would be better as a winger, Shank, so I want
to hear your thoughts on that, but also what you
think of what you thought of Smith's season and whether
he'll play with celebraty long term or maybe do they
really want him to drive his own line down the
middle in the coming years.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 4: According to the end of the season interviews, they want
him to be a center. Mike Rows said that they
planned to put Smith back at center next year and
that they may start with that from training camp on,
so I will see if that last or not. Like
you mentioned, there is some argument or thought that Smith
may be better suited for the wing long term. But
it is worth noting though that he is still learning
to play wing and he hasn't done that much in
the past, and so some of that experience did come
to the forefront last year, but he also did well
with the two, especially in the second half of the season,
like you mentioned, and so I think it's a little
bit of a wait and see also too. What might
change things to is if the Sharks draft of Michael
Misa and Michael Mesa is also projected to be a
center of the future, and so you can roll three
strong centers down the middle. But there's also the idea
of you have an ideal kind of one C in
Macklin cel Brini future one C in Macklin, cel A Brinie,
two C and maybe a Mesa, and then you put
Smith on the wing, and so that could come to fruition.
So still wait and see there, but his offensive capability,
his production, there's a little bit of Maclin that there is.
We don't know what he's going to be yet. There's
some thought that he's going to end up being an
eighty nine, maybe even one hundred point player. He's so clever,
so smart, even if his physical attributes don't jump off
the table when you watch him, and that's what we
saw also in the first half of the season when
he was struggling a little bit. But the second half
of it, though, we saw that brain at work, even
though physically he didn't get that much faster or that
much stronger. A little bit, but not that much. So
he's another exciting guy. You don't know what you'll get
from the next year. I think that it might be
a little more of a gradual thing, though I don't
expect him to necessarily, Like if you told me next
year macklin celebrating HA scored one hundred points, it wouldn't
shock me. It wouldn't expect it, but it wouldn't shock me.
I think Will might be a little bit more of
a slow grow a little bit like William mcklin to
some degree, but that offensive potential is significant with Will Smith.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad you brought up me said, because I
was going to bring that up too, because it certainly
seems like that's probably where they're headed. And I don't
remember any NHL team complaining about having three excellent centers
down the head. Absolutely, it's a great problem to have,
and especially if one of them not celebrating. So I
would imagine one of the other two, if it does
go that way, slides to the wing here and there,
or they just roll out them three down the middle.
That would be quite the luxury to have, I would
say for a long time. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, And I think that the only position that you
don't want a repeat of is number one goalie. In
this league, you can never have too many good defensemen,
or too many good wingers, or too many good centers,
or if you happen to then you can trade them
for a lot. The only problematic position to have too
much of is goaltending, and that's not a problem with drafting.
Speaker 1: Misa.
Speaker 2: We're a little further down the depth of the lineup now, Shane,
we're going to talk about Alex Windberg, another veteran pivot.
His smooth ice time, actually, if you look at a
hockey viz was the highest among forwards by the end
of the season. His other guys maybe got unhealthy and
or traded away. He got a healthy dose of power
play timonized, which is not always the case for Winberg.
He's not a shooter. Let's face it, one shot a
game is remarkably low for a player who gets this
kind of minutes. I actually ran a query two hundred
and forty one forwards played at least one thousand minutes
last year, and of those two hundred and forty one,
in terms of rate shots per sixty he was two
hundred and thirty eight, So he was dang near the
bottom in the league. Only really only Chandler Stevenson of
guys who played a ton at five on five shot
less than him. What is Winberg's role with the team
next year? In is he probably going to produce the
same kind of half point per game results that he
did this year?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he.
Speaker 4: Under that query or wen Berg pretty much is his game.
And anyway, in terms of what he does with the
Sharks this coming season, I think that there is a
chance with Smith going back to two see. If Smith
really takes to that quickly, then Weinberg goes down to
three see. And actually Weinberg is a very good three C.
I think even for a playoff team, Weinberg can play
three C. He's a strong two way pivot. He can
stand to shoot more, obviously, but he's a good playmaker,
good passer, very responsible defensively, can help you on both
the power play and penalty kill. This is why he
led to Sharks, like you mentioned in minutes at the ender,
just because he is a Swiss army knife kind of player.
He can really use them use him anywhere. And so
in terms of his production, it's hard to say if
it will match quite where he's at because if he
has a lower role, then he may not get as
many offensive opportunities, and also his wingers, because the Sharks
aren't as deep, won't be as strong. Weinberg found a
lot of success this past season when he was with
Tyler Tafoli, for example, and there's a natural kind of
passer shooter combo there. But Shreks don't have a lot
of Tafolis, and so if Weinberg is on a third line,
he's not going to be playing with anybody that can
finish quite like Tafoli can, which is going to make
his counting stats suffer. And so there is also a
chance with Wenberg though, that because he is so multi
faceted in his game, that he's a guy that can
move to wing and help you there, and so that
can help with his production. And he is a useful
power play player. He's not obviously going to be like
the focal point of your power play, but he is
big enough that you can use some kind of net
front behind a net he can have impact there, and
that's a kind of area that the Strucks use them.
That he may not be the ideal kind of net
frontish guy, but that he is smart and he's big,
and so there's some value there. And yeah, I think
at all he's just a good how do you say,
a good utility player for any lineup the Sharks fancy lineup.
I guess too that he can help him a lot
of ways.
Speaker 1: We know that there might be some changes or in
the next between now and when the next season happens,
and so we don't need to get into too many
other players. But frankly, it wasn't really sure who else
to bring up, because I'm not sure who else would
be fantasy relevant. Do you have any hidden gems or
surprises for us that you think could get above a
fifty point pace next season?
Speaker 4: Forward Man fifty points, Jesus.
Speaker 1: And I know we're asking a lot.
Speaker 4: You're saying, yeah, you're asking me to dig deep. I'm
gonna have to pull up the roster for this one,
I think. I mean, they definitely need a power play
defenseman right and they don't have a clear put one
right now. Jake Wollman did a decent kind of standing
job when he was there before the Sharks traded into
the Oilers. So whoever the Sharks acquire for that, if
they acquire anybody, will have a shot at maybe not
fifty points, but a shot at some pretty good production.
And so if they decide, hey, we're gonna give Shakim
milkomdool and that that spot, I don't know if they will.
I don't think they will, but but he's a guy
that can that might be able to produce. If Sam
Dickinson they just say, hey, they they take the training
wheels off of him and let him go as a
power play, a power play guy, a power play triggerman
kind of guy, then that's a guy that can put
up some points. At least he's shown that at in London.
If they make if they are free agent signing, maybe
I think a guy like Mat Grizzlick it would fit
well in San Jose. For example, he had a really
good season with Pittsburgh on the power play, So if
the Sharks did happen to acquire him, we look at
the kind of the production jump that Jake Walman had
when he joined the Sharks, right, and so whoever the
Sharks acquire for that spot, or whoever they try to
force feed into that spot might have a chance for
a kind of that similar kind of production spike. So
definitely a sleeper there. Whoever ends up being the projected
number one quarterback for the Sharks of start season, even
Luca ken Yoni, who had a terrific season in AHL,
he's probably still a little raw for to have the
number one power play spot and the angel team, But
nonetheless stuff he does have legitimate power play talent. He
showed out in the AHL, and so he's a guy
that if he earns the job during camp, then that's
a guy that might be a good, good sleeper pickup.
I think. Besides that, if we're talking about other sleeper guys,
I'm literally looking at the roster now just to remind
myself and if we're not counting guys that they might sign,
because I guess that's not fair for his exercise if
they keep a Nikolai Covilanko and he may be going
back to the KHL for all we know at this moment.
But he has some offensive talent. He showed a little
bit the end of the season. They put him with
Will Smith and mckleinzell bringing and he showed offensively. It's
still a lot to work on that defensive side of
the game. But if he gets a full year on
the wing, on a top six line, can he score
you forty points something like that. I think that's possible.
I don't know if that helps you win too many games,
but he does have some offensive talent. And then if
we go dig a little deeper into the prospects, there's
Calling Graft, there's Cam One. I don't know if those
guys are ready to be fantasy relevant producers at this level,
but those are guys that might get a look. And yeah,
maybe that's it. Zeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely not a long list when you're looking
at that. I mainly wanted to focus on the fowards,
but you did a good rundown of the defense. I
did want to circle back to Cagnoni because yeah, I
think he's worth discussing a little bit more, and certainly
has a ton of upside. As you mentioned, not a
whole lot of NHL experience, and remains to be seen
whether they'll give him a full opportunity next year. But
I thought he looked pretty decent in the six games
he played towards the end of the season, this after
a super strong AHL season. But we're going to focus
on the NHL time. He was a little bit below
average according to Evolving Hockey in terms of his rate stats,
but you were talking about under ninety minutes of total
even strength time on ice, so not a whole lot
to write home about. But when I saw him on
the power play, I thought he looked pretty effective, and
I think if he could hang and at least tread
water off defensively, that he could probably have that role
as early as next season. But you bring up a
good point that they may just bring someone else in
to do it if it is Cagnoni. What do you
think of his chances next year and maybe to the future,
because I know there's Sam Dickinson who may be in
that role. But let's focus on Kegnoni for a minute,
and what do you think, and what does the organization
think of his progress and where he stands now.
Speaker 4: I think they're thrilled with his progress. I don't think
anybody expected him to come into the HL. Houston was
a candidate at the during training camp to go back
to they wasn't likely, but to go back to WHL
for his overage season, and so I don't think anybody
expected him to take the HL by storm the way
he did and to basically be the I think the
only Tristan Luneau. Those are the most productive rookie defenseman
in the league, and both those guys ended up. I
think it was the top five, maybe top ten in
HL scoring for all defensemen. So super impressive, super impressive
rookie pro season in terms of just his actual HL time,
though I'm not sure if I saw quite enough. There
were thought that the defense will is very raw and
even in the power play just okay. I don't know
if I would say that in my view that he
necessarily shown he on the power play in his time
in the NHL, or he might have stayed up a
little longer because that is his bread and butter. But
it doesn't mean though that he can't have a great
summer and kind of come back, kind of surprise people
like he did coming from twenty twenty three twenty four
into his first pro season and opening a lot of eyes.
So he has a great summer this summer and then
and it surprises people next training camp. And I do
think you hit it on the head in terms of
he's got to be okay defensively at five on five
at least, and he is a willing defender. He's not
lazy or anything like that, so that helps. He is willing,
he's chippy, and so that helps even though he's really small.
And then on the power play he has, that has
to be a plus thing for him, because if he's
just okay defensively on five on five and he's just
okay on the power play, then that's not a really
impactful defenseman, and then he might be better serve being
an HO for a little bit longer. But right now
for the Sharks, he's as good a candidate as anybody
to be their PP one. But I would expect they
add somebody, whether it's through free agency I mentioned Grizzlick
or by trade, because I again I do think that
when you have this foundational piece of Macklin that you
cannot just let the young player just throw them to
the wolves and just say let's see what the young
players can do and let's aim for Gavin McKenna and
don't worry about it. I really think that is not
not good for the development of Macklin, of will Smith,
William Macklin and all that. So I would expect they
would add somebody to move ahead of, to move ahead
of Muku Madoolin ken Yoni Dickinson on their power play
death chart.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had a couple more questions about that. I
know some fans have been saying, oh, this is Ryan
Murkley all over again, and I would I have said
to them, and I want to hear what you think.
That's not the same at all, because as we as
looking at Kegnoni and his willingness to engage defensively, it's
something that took Murkley a lot longer, and I'm not
sure he even got to that point ever. Frankly, so
to me, that seems a little bit different, and maybe
the offense isn't as plused as it was for Merkley
in the junior days, but doing this at the AHL level,
at his age has been pretty impressive to me.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 4: Now that's a reletely unfair comparison, that's just honestly a
lazy one, because they're both smallish, offensively gifted defenseman and
that's about all they have in common. Murkeley never came
close to Kennoni's production in an HL, and not just
because Murkley's in Merkley's defense. Merkeley's Barracuda teams weren't quite
as talented. But you can just see on the power
play Canyone legitimately runs the power play for the Barrakuda.
He's not just some passenger building accumulating points because he's
on the same team with say Andrew Potowski. It's actually
really another part of what was impressive about what what
Kanyoni did this season is that he took control of
the power play from guys that He took it from
Lucas Carlson's guy who scored twenty goals as a defenseman
in AHL. He took it from Shakim Michle Macdooen, who
at the time was considered the and still is really
besides Dickinson, he's the top pro defensive prospect for the
Sharks and still is but he yeah, and he's yeah,
he's Dickie at Dickinson also wasn't isn't playing pro yet too,
So yeah, so he took that spot on the number
one PP from both those guys. When Carlos Carlson started
the season hurt. Carlson came back, he still wasn't PP one.
M mcdolan was hurt the beginning season. He came back,
he still wasn't PP one. It's because of how good
Kangnoni was, Kangyoni was on that power play. Then that
Berkley the power play was the number one in the AHL.
Merkeley never did anything close to that. Murkley had plenty
of opportunities to take the PP one job from his
teammates on the Barracuda. I think we go back to
remember some of the namers very underwhelming who had that
job over Ryan Berkeley. And yeah, so that's that's not
a good comparison at all. And of course you mentioned
a willingness on defense. Canyoni too is also even though
he's shorter than Murkeley, he's how do you say, he's
stocky and he's strong, and I don't think Murkley as
body ever developed in that way that you would ever
say that Murkley had a kind of underrated strength.
Speaker 2: He never did.
Speaker 4: Also, to Kenyoni has what a scout has told me
called it a dirty stick, just a willingness used that
stick as a defensive weapon, and Murkeley never quite got
the hang of that at any pro level. I'm not
saying that Canyoni is going to be an ANHL success,
but that's a bad comparison. So yeah, we can put
that the rest there, all right.
Speaker 1: One other fun thing about Kegnoni is I have heard
that for the Italy Olympic Games they're looking at anyone
with Italian heritage. I don't know. I couldn't confirm this,
maybe you can, but his name sure sounds Italian, and
I know that he's Canadian. But I wonder if that's
something that could be in the works for him, because
I think Italy is gonna have a little bit of
a hard time filling out the roster with a competitive
team that is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what, I'm pretty sure he is. I
remind me, I'll ask him closer closer to camp. I
think that that would be fun him and him in
Amerio Ferraro.
Speaker 1: So there you go.
Speaker 2: Sounds like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be it'll be a Shark's pairing on the
blue line there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, so yeah, it sounds sounds sounds sound sounds
like a like a like a great I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad we got some winery or something. Yeah,
there you go. I'm glad we got some laughs in
because now we have to talk about the goalies, which
was which was not as fun. But the Sharks did
rank thirty first and expected goals against per sixty per
Evolving Hockey last season and conceded the thirty second ranked
actual goals, so it was not good. Blackwood was in
there initially as a starter, and I think he did
really well considering what was in front of him, and
that was well enough to earn him a trip to
a trade to Colorado with georgiaev Coming back, Georgia certainly
battled but had a bit of a rough in terms
of his goal save above expected negative four point eight two,
which frankly, being only negative four point eight two is
probably when based on what was in front of him
at times the delta. Fenwick was a little bit negative overall,
as you would expect losing record, and he was in
the third year of that contract, and I've heard rumors
that he's probably not continuing next season, but you can
certainly confirm that or not, and it's going to be
interesting to see where they go from here. Of course,
the Arslava scar Off was the big story, and he
was excellent in the AHL, and when he did come
up to the NHL, some of the numbers didn't look
great overall, but he was able to outperform the protection
in front of him a delta. Fenwick was very positive,
his goal save was expected, was positive four point eight,
all of that looking really good. And he was completed
as ELC and on the first of a two year,
two million dollar contract. So I think people want to know,
is it full time a scar off time? Is he
going to get forty plus starts? Are they going to
bring someone into tandem with him? I don't really think
that Georgia Romanov is ready to be in a tandem
with him at the NHL level, although he certainly has
looked good at times. It seems most likely they'll bring
in someone to time share with him. But Shang, tell
us your thoughts on what do you think they'll do
with the goalies next year?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, Micro has been pretty clear about it. Your
give actually told us himself that the Sharks weren't bringing
him back, So it's not gonna make him. It's not
going to be romanof. That'd be crazy to do that too. Again,
you have to put a good environment around you, around
your cornerstone guys. We mentioned Macklin. Ascaroff is a very
bit The cornerstone guy that's celebrating is number one goalie
that's just as important as your number one center. And
so they're not I don't think that they're going to
do that to ask Off, that they're going to put
him thrown to the wolves. Hey, good luck, your defense
is Mayor farl is your number one defenseman. So yeah,
So I think that they're going to try to help
out mac macklin and Ascaroff in kind of this the
same way anyway, though, in terms of who they bring in,
I think that there's a this is a great spot
to bring in a guy like a Jake Allen, maybe
a guy that can play you thirty forty games, no problem,
and if Askaroff falters, then maybe Allen plays more.
Speaker 2: I think the hope.
Speaker 4: Is that Askaroff does sees the starting job, that he's
so good that he plays fifty. Maybe he's that good
blame sixty. I'm thinking that the Sharks ideally want Askaroff
at a good fifty. He's good enough to be the
number one guy, but you have a number two there
that can play a lot of the load and if
ascarof Falters can be a credible kind of number one,
and so Jake Allen is ideal for that. Maybe sam
Son off Vegas somebody liked that though, And yeah, I
think that in terms of the fantasy aspect, you're not
probably can get a lot of wins out of Askarof,
but he is a guy that I again I think
they're hoping takes the number one job. And whoever they
pick up as their backup should be a good sleeper
kind of guy in so far as he is going
to get probably more of a shot than.
Speaker 2: The typical backup.
Speaker 4: Ascrov hasn't quite taken a number one job yet, and Sharks,
I think, don't want to just give it to him,
They want him to take it first.
Speaker 2: Tremendous stuff here, Shang. We're really looking forward to seeing
what happens with this team of intrigue next year, and
I'm sure people will be following what you have to
say about the Sharks, why don't you let people know
how to do it? Sure?
Speaker 4: Yeah, just find me on Twitter Shang Underscore, Pang Blue Sky,
Shang Peng. Also have my podcast with my co host
Keke and mcnauley San Jose, the San Jose Hockey Now
Podcast and elsewhere. Like I mentioned, Yeah, just San Jose
Hockey Now, NBC Sharks outstanding.
Speaker 2: Everybody go do that follow the Sharks this year? Thanks
so much for coming back to a Shang.
Speaker 4: Yeah, anytime, guys.
Speaker 3: Will since then, that's good fired Panph, My goodness, quick Gram.
Speaker 2: Now it's your wingley goalie talk. But Kat Silverman Kat's Instinct.
Speaker 1: Time once again for Kat's Instinct with Kat Silverman of
Ingold Mag we're talking Sharks goalies, and at least for
now and for probably the last time, we're gonna start
with Yaroslav a scar Off and he's twenty two years
old now, six three hundred and seventy nine pounds. He
was traded famously and the last offseason over to the Sharks,
and he actually got into thirteen NHL games. I wouldn't
say they went terribly great, although I watched some of
those games and the team in front of him was
just painful, so you certainly can't plain him for all that.
And the Delta Fenwick save percentage, he well outperformed the
protection offer to him by the skaters in front of him,
particularly on the penalty kill, which was pretty awful what
they were doing in front of him, So you know
that's to be said. And I did get to catch
some of his time in the AHL, and he looked
awesome in the HL, and including his playoff run, which
I believe is still ongoing as we're recording this, So
it was a really successful season over all. The futures Bright.
We're talking about him here because I want to get
your instincts or yours take on him. Looking at the
hockey prospecting, it's been up and down for him a
little bit. There was a little bit of a dip
last season based on his AHL time with the INDHL,
and he's back up to having really strong comps, guys
like Lucas Deerstal Tukarask is probably one of the big
ones that he has here. So, Kat, what do your
instincts tell us about Arslava scar Off.
Speaker 5: I do think it's really fun that he has a
comp of Lucas Jostaal because to me, they are contemporaries
and it's I think it speaks to with no offense
to Nashville, bit just like a wild mismanagement of a
top tier prospect that he is not currently being looked
at as a contemporary of Lukastoshtaal because they really should
have kind of reached the league together. And I love
watching all of his game footage. I like watching his
AHL game footage. I maybe don't like watching his NHL
game footage just because watching the Sharks is really tough.
That is a chore, I would say, but one that
he he stays so in control of, not just his
own movement in his positioning, but of the play. He
does a really good job with his rebound control. He
does a really good job of deciding when he needs
to release a rebound and when he needs to kind
of hold onto the puck.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 5: The only thing that might work against him is that
the defense in front of him, because he is very
clearly nhlready. I think the Sharks they have to like.
It would be a disservice to them and to him
to leave him in the AHL next year. So I
think he's probably going to be their starter, if not
their tandem. I think they should probably give him a
good defense to work with. That would be really fun
to watch and getting to see him play for a
good team. I know that's probably not going to happen,
but I think he is the type of goaltender that
you can build your team around because his game is
easy to identify, it's really well communicated. His transitions are great,
it's fairly adaptable. He does a good job of kind
of adapting to the defense he's playing with, which is
something that when he was playing for Milwaukee, he were
able to see that in terms of how he transitioned
his game because sometimes their defense changed up how they
were playing throughout the game, and sometimes it was based
on protecting a lead, sometimes it was based on pushing
while they were from behind, coming from behind, And I
think he does a good job of adapting his game
to match what the defense is wanting from him. But yeah,
I think it's a shame that we don't get to
see him playing for a clear cut playoff team. But
I'm hoping that we will get to in the future,
which would be fun for Sharks fans too, And I
think that's a good environment for him. I don't think
that Nashville was a bad one. They're a pretty good
fan base. They don't necessarily pull the fish bowl situation.
I think San Jose is also a really good one, though,
where that's a fan base that's loyal, they're fun, they're passionate,
but they're not going to call for his head if
he has some growing pains, which behind the defense that
they have, I think there's probably going to be some,
at least statistical growing pains, but I don't think from
a technique standpoint, there will be.
Speaker 1: Absolutely If you look at the quality of the Sharks
prospect pool, it sure looks like they should be good
in at least a couple of years, and it sure
seems like a Scarf can be that star starter on
a great team if they do bill around him. Wouldn't
you say?
Speaker 5: I would say so for sure.
Speaker 1: All Right, thanks for giving us your instinct. Some of
the Sharks who's goalies.
Speaker 2: Will be back right after this dig The Dynasty did
San Jose Sharks edition. Here's the good news. This has
been a rough episode for Sharks followers, but this is
ranked as your number one system Victor, and if I'm
reading it, that's number one without Maclin Celebrini in the fold.
So we got some guys to talk about here, and
they will add to it with the number two and
the number thirty picks in this year's draft. Let's start
with this year's no brainer, Yeah are.
Speaker 1: No brainer is Luca Cagnoni, which might be a bit
surprising to some, but he was a twenty twenty three
fourth round pick, one hundred and twenty third overall five
to nine, one hundred and eighty one pounds. He's still
five to nine. He was five nine when he was drafted,
hasn't really grown much, but he lit up the WHL
and his draft plus one season and then last season
he was primarily in the AHL. Fifty two points and
sixty four games lit that league up. Amazing transition to
the professional ranks. He also got into six NHL games,
and I would say he did not look out of place.
Certainly running the power play, he did not look out
of place. He definitely looked a little out out of
place at times with some of the fast forwards bearing
down on him, but that's what you would expect from
a young player just stepping into the NHL. Overall, it
was a super successful season for Cagnoni, and I think
a completely shifted perspectives on him based on from the organization,
and I have him in my FHL player card at
seven point five seven fifty seven percent chance of being
a seven out of ten. That's pretty high praise for
a fourth round pick. Looking at his bash, overall, his
shots are going to be seven out of ten. The
rest of his bash though pretty weak, three out of
ten for hits and blocks, and overall the is probably
going to be pretty weak. Only if he gets enough
shots will it be valuable. So that's the sort of
unfortunate part. But let's hear a little bit more about
what makes Cagnoni unique from our FHL.
Speaker 2: Scout report, brought to you by the estimable Patrick Block.
Our FHL scout Luca Kagnoni defenceman San Jose Sharks. He
has above average skating. The footwork and mobility are excellent,
the speed is somewhat lacking. Luca is a pretty good
passer and handler. He's able to handle well in tight spaces,
make smart and accurate passes. For shooting, he has an
accurate risk shot that he can guide through traffic from
the point. Luca also has a high hockey IQ, able
to read the play do a good job of predicting
what is coming plans. Accordingly, he's smart about when he
holds onto the puck and make sure he passes or
just his play rather than making too risky of a play.
Patrick says that Kegnoni maintains good discipline in the offensive
zone by staying near the point, but will pinch along
the boards or go down low when the right situations arise.
For defense, solid holds decent position in front of the net,
able to break up rushes, win board battles. The stick
work on the board battles is an area to strengthen,
as sometimes he wins the puck but then has trouble
moving it, so the best asset was the hockey IQ.
Patrick was impressed by the decision making and anticipation and
rarely saw a bad decision. The biggest concern in that
defensive play, although he doesn't think it's as much of
a problem as in the past. So the top tier
outcome for Cagnoni a top four defenseman quarterbacking power play one.
Because of the lack of size and strength of defensive play,
he's probably going to top out as a second pair defenseman,
but the top power play would be quite a prize.
His offensive game has subtlety that can be somewhat overlooked.
The median outcome for Cagnoni bottom pair defenseman on power
play two. To be effective, Cagnoni's role should include some
power play time. If the defense stays at current levels
or with somewhat of a liability, he will be in
a sheltered third D pair role, possibly only get power
play too. Sam Gerard is Patrick's chosen comp He isn't
a good offensive or he is a good offensive D
whose defense isn't great, isn't quite in the range of
a Fox, Quinn Hughes or Lane Hudson, And overall Patrick's opinion,
he isn't flashy, but Cagnoni is subtly good and fun
to watch. And Mason Black, the NHL rank King and
the tidy Champion, put out the poll Luca Cagnoni versus
Sam Renzel, as expected after the scouting report you heard from, Victor,
Cagnoni runs away with this one sixty three to thirty
seven percent. Victor, I assume you will agree with this comparison.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm definitely going Cagnoni here, But Renzel is also
a very strong prospect. I think this is one of
those where you would like both of them. I know
that there's more competition in Chicago with for Renzel, but
I think that he has He is an awesome player,
and I don't think it's enough respect for how strong
he's gonna be. He's got the size, he's got the mobility,
he's got some pretty hidden some pretty strong upside for
scoring that I don't think a lot of people realize.
So I really like Renzel. He also has a pretty
decent bash based on his NC doualea time his shots
ninetieth percentile, hits seventieth percentile, so overall his bash ninetieth percentile.
So I think you're going to have a strong peripheral
floor for Renzel. You don't have the size and skating concerns,
and I think that there's some hidden offense. So of
all the guys who could run that power play, he's
certainly one of them, and I think he's a dark horse.
So I like Renzel a lot, but I'm taking Cognoni.
I think the points upside is pretty huge for Cagnoni.
I think he's the kind of guy who can put
up seventy sixty to seventy points as a defenseman, which
is pretty rare, especially years down the line when that
San Jose power play is good again and all these
young prospects have graduated. That's what we're looking at. So, yeah,
Cagnoni's awesome. Looking at the hockey prospecting between the two,
you have Cagnoni up at fifty one percent chance of
being a star. You don't see this very often, but
he increased his star potential from fifteen to thirty one
to fifty one. That just doesn't happen in this model.
It's very rare, so I think you have to pay
attention when those kinds of things happen. Renzel stagnated between
five and eight percent chance of being a star, so
that was a little bit unfortunate. I think that model
underestimates some of his time because he started out in
high school. So I think that there's more upside there
than what you face value. And looking at some other
comps from Cagnoni, wouldn't he looks almost identical to Adam
Fox in this model, and he's pretty much the same height,
maybe just a little bit shorter, And I do think
that's an accurate comp for what Cagnoni can be. I
don't know if he can get all the way to
being a top defender, but I think the points upside
is realistic. What of what Adam Fox can do? So
there you go, time to get excited looking at the
top down hockey model for Luca Kagnoni. Ten percent chance
of being a start, ninety two percent chance of being
an NHL are not super not as positive as we
would like it to be. But a little bit more
optimism there from j Fresh Jesse.
Speaker 2: Love it. Victor, who's our need to know prospect for
the Sharks?
Speaker 1: Well, a lot of people thought Sam Dickinson would be
our no brainer, but he's not. He's our need to know,
he's our next guy. And yeah, he had a really
strong season. Memorial Cup Champ twenty twenty four, first round pick,
eleventh overall, sixty three, two nine pounds, Sam Dickinson took
a pretty big step forward this season in his production.
Last season, he was just overpoint per game at seventy
points in sixty eight games. This season ninety one points
in fifty five games, including another thirty one and seventeen
playoff games. Just pretty awesome stuff there for Dickinson. And
there were definitely moments on that playoff journey where he
took control of the situation and got an important goal
and important stop and important zone exit. So you love
to see that from the man looking at his Mitch
Brown tracking data. Ninety fourth percentile. Overall, basically, there's just
a whole lot of blue on this card, from passing
to shooting to transition. The couple areas that weren't so
good retrieval success proactive contact for sixty, borge battle for sixty.
Some of the physicality there wasn't quite as good as
you would like, But overall it is pretty stellar season
for Dickinson. I have him just under Cagnoni at a
seven point three five, so thirty five percent chance of
being a seven. Both these guys look like they're going
to be great defenseman for a long time for the Sharks.
Dickinson shoots a lot. His shots are one hundred percentile,
his blocks sixtieth percentile, so overall his bash should be
really good. His hits are close to average, so a
stronger peripheral floor. But also remember this is the OHL.
A lot of times when they get to the HL,
some of their bash tends to go away, and so
we might see a little bit of that with Dickinson,
but I think he'll still probably be at least an
average basher. But let's hear a little bit more about
Dickinson from marf scout Jesse.
Speaker 2: Once again, Patrick on the case for Sam Dickinson, and
he says of the skating, an above average skater able
to accelerate, maneuver and position well passing and handling, skilled
passer and handler, deft at handling the puck, can make
accurate passes, and for the shooting, Dickinson has a heavy
shot from the point, but is also able to sneak
in use his wrist shot to score goals. IQ. Sam
has about average hockey IQ. Sometimes poise vision and anticipation,
but other times he might send a pass to a
teammate that's well covered or to an area and have
a puck come right back in the d zone for
checking pitches down low when appropriate to keep the cycle
going or get a good scoring opportunity. Defense a solid,
if not great defender, able to maintain his gap somewhat
and do well on NetFront. D doesn't hit a lot,
but uses his size to keep players to the outside
and occasionally throws a hit in. However, sometimes he throws
pucks away when pressure loses board battles to smaller players.
So the biggest asset here the passing and handling, and
the biggest concern the inconsistency of the hockey IQ. Top
tier outcome for Dickinson a top pair power play one
or power play two, and that's because the impressive offensive toolkit,
along with a good defense with room for improvement on
the defense and hockey sense create a clear path to
become a top pair D. The median outcome would be
something more like a second pair defenseman. The offense along
with the current skill on the D provide a baseline
highly likely. Noah hand event is the comparable for Patrick
with his offensive ability and solid defense. And the last thought,
Dickinson played a lot of minutes with time on the
power play and penalty kill, got some penal some weaknesses,
but they aren't glaring and he has plenty of time
to refine and minimize him as he only turned nineteen
on June seventh, and the NHL Rank King Poll whoa
Mason's not screwing around this time? Sam Dickinson up against Zee,
Bullyam and Bullyam in a route for this one. He's
he wins this one. I believe sixty nine to thirty
one percent. Bulliam is the name brand. Victor Dickinson is
certainly a prospect who we talk about in very high circles.
Is bullyam still by far the superior prospect.
Speaker 1: I said it at the time, and I'll say it again.
I think Zee William was the best defenseman in last
year's draft. I would have taken him much earlier than
he went at twelfth. Overall, the Sharks had had an
opportunity to take him at eleventh. They didn't. They took
Dickinson instead. I think that was a mistake, and I
still think that was a mistake. I don't think they're
going to be super unhappy with Dickinson. I think they'll
be I think he'll be fine and they'll be happy
with him. But I still, yes, I still would want Billiam,
especially considering look at what's happening with Luca Cagnonia. This
guy is just taken off. So I think in terms
of team context, I certainly think Cagnoni is going to
give Dickinson a run for his money. In terms of
running that power play, I'm not sure that anyone truly
will for Bulliam. I think that he probably should, certainly
brock Favor can, but I think Favor is more of
an all around guy, and I think it's going to
be Bulliam, and I think Bulliam is just in a
class of his own in terms of all around play.
So I definitely am liking Bulliam here. I think he
has what it takes to be a number one defenseman,
so I'm pretty excited to see what he can do
long term. We've got to see a glimpse of him
at the end of the season this year, and I
think that we're going to see him probably closer to
full time pretty soon here. I have William as an
eight point six y five on my ranks, which is
rare to see someone in an eight, especially with high
percentage of being an eight. So I think the world
of him. I think that's pretty obvious in my ranks.
Looking at his bash in the NCAA was a little
bit low. The hits and blocks were on the lower side,
and the shots were only seventy percentile, so you might
not get as much in terms of bash. That's probably
going to be similar to brock Favor, but I think
you're going to be rewarded with more points for Billiam.
Looking at the hockey prospecting between these two, Dickinson went
from thirty seven to fifty eight percent chance of being
a star and Billiam went from seventy three to eighty
six percent chance of being a star. So both of
them raise their star potential. I'm still sticking with Billiam.
As I mentioned before. Looking at some other comps for Dickinson,
Darryl Sedoor seems to be a pretty reasonable comp maybe
more of an average producer. If he does really pop off,
maybe he can get to the heights of Zach Warinsky,
Rasmus Dolling. Those are some of the guys that he
comps favorably to in the model. I don't know that
he reaches those heights. Jesse yep.
Speaker 2: And lastly, we had to keep your eye on prospect Victor.
Who's that.
Speaker 1: Keep your eye is going to be Igor SCHERNISHEV twenty
twenty four, second round pick, thirty third overall, two hundred
and five pounds. Pretty awesome production this year in the
OHL for Saginaw. He did start more thinking he might
have a chance with the Sharks and then with the Barracuda,
but eventually he was returned to the OHL, where he
had pretty awesome production. It was his first North American season,
so it was just great to see him and how
he adjusted to the pace and to the game. And
I would say pretty good with those numbers. Fifty five points,
twenty three games all in all, looking really strong. He
often played with top prospect and potential future teammate Michael
Misa from the twenty twenty five draft, so that may
be a reason to be interested in drafting him. All
the plenty of reasons to be interested in drafting Michael Misa,
not the least of which is that he can play
with the TURNERSHOV. I'm sure misaid can't play with anyone,
so I wouldn't worry too much about that, but it
is fun to know that they had some strong chemistry.
Looking at the Mitch Brown tracking data for Turnershov, he
clocked in an eighty nine percent overall offense was eighty one,
transition eighty six, defense eighty five, all of us looking
really good. He shoots a lot, his expected goals were high.
Pretty decent playmaker, though too is expected. Primary cists were
above average. There were a couple of things that weren't
so great like controlled xes, per sixty cross lane plays
and off puck assists. But overall you're pretty happy with
what you're seeing from Turnishov and stop me if you
heard this before. But I have a shark's prospect rated
in the seven. So I have Turnershof at seven point
three five thirty five percent chance of being a seven.
I think this guy has the potential be a top
line player, at least at a top six player. His
shots are one hundred percentile. He doesn't hit a whole lot,
which is interesting. Some people think of him as a
physical player. He's really not. His blocks, though, are really high,
so overall his bash is ninetyeight percentile, but it's almost
entirely shots and blocks, which is weird for a forward.
Let's see if there any other weird things about Turner
shot from our effort till scout Jesse.
Speaker 2: Checking in on Patrick's take on Igor chernishof a right
winger skating above average skater with an excellent stride, capable
of high end speed, passing and handling. Mostly inclined to
make short in sure passes, but able to make longer
passes less often. He handles the puck well, especially in
type spaces and is also capable of transporting the puck
up the ice. Shooting Chernashop possesses a shot he can
locate with accuracy and get off quickly. Hockey iq very high,
anticipates openings and goes to the key areas, preferring give
and goes when he can for checking excellent, skates hard,
positioning himself well, and chernishev uses his size and stickwork
to work winning board battles and cycle a puck. Patrick
says to the defense, Cherna Shop is a very good
two way forward. Skates back hard on defense, make sure
there aren't odd man breaks, and he covers his man.
So the best asset strengths are good, but he will
give the edge to the puck. Skills biggest concern. While
he does skate back hard and does try to get
in good position, his defensive game still needs some work
to become more of a two way player. The top
tier outcome here the most potential to be a Tier
one player. He may not have the most points, but
could have good peripherals to bump him up there at
a Tier one. That's be the justification for him being
a Tier two player. However, more of a middle sixer.
That's more of a fifty percent outcome for Patrick, as
he's lacking somewhat in dynamicism and his Nor South game,
along with some deficiencies on defense which may limit him.
The stylistic comparable Valerie Nishkushkin based on their size, skating ability,
and rush offense, and the NHL ranking polls. Not screwing around,
We're gonna put Cherina Shop up against Isaac Howard of
the Tampa Bay Lightning and and what do you know,
Chernishoff comes out very favorably in that comparison, sixty eight
to thirty two percent. Victor. Sounds like a stopping and
I'm guessing you agree with that.
Speaker 1: Like Gyasac Howard, I think you did mention he's his
rights are retained by the Lightning, but after this they
didn't sign him. So after this next college season he
can go anywhere, and sounds like he probably will, so
I'm not sure that he will end up play for
the Lightning. I think he was disappointed, hoping they'd sign
him and bring him into the NHL right away, but
that did not happen. But yeah, I think that it's
probably close between these two. I think iSER Howard had
an awesome season this year overall was really strong. He
ended up winning the Hobe Baker Award as the top
collegiate player. And he's a little bit older though now
he's twenty one, and you'd expect a little bit strong
production from an older player, and he got it fifty
two points in thirty seven games, so he didn't disappoint.
Back to Michigan State for his senior season and hoping
they can win. I'm sure that's what he's focused on.
But I think that Turnershov probably has more upside what
he's shown in such a at a young age. The
Hockey prospecting agrees with me, sixty eight percent chance of
being a star for Turnershof. He increased that from forty two,
so forty two up to sixty eight, whereas Howard is
trended down and he's now an eight percent chance of
being a star. So the Hockey prospect team model agrees
with me. I would take Tchernishov. I do think that
he has more upside. Looking at some other comps for Turnershov,
he looks a lot like Oly Jokinen and Nick Baxtrom.
Those are the two main comps here of course, there's
a pretty wide range there, and I think that you'd
be happy with anywhere in between there. But I think
that you're really happy with where he is now, and
I think he can get up to be a top
six player and maybe even that top liner, which would
be pretty great, because that top six in San Jose
is going to look pretty good in a few years.
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