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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Political Beatdown. What's Up Brigade. This has

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Ben Macellaz here with the one and only Michael Cohen.

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Let me give you just some of the topics we

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will be talking about on today's Political Beatdown. Special counsel

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Jack Smith, subpoenad Jared Kushner, and Ivanka Trump. I want

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to get Cohen's reaction to that. I want to talk

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about the MAGA Republican disinformation machine in overdrive in East Palestine,

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Ohio regarding the trained derailment there. Steve Bannon was just

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sued by his former lawyer for hundreds of thousands of

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dollars in unpaid legal bills. Fox is now platforming this

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idea that's being spread by the MAGA Republicans of secession

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and a national divorce. And I want to talk about

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the Fulton County grand jury four person speaking to the

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media and what is going on there. But as we

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just started live, there's some breaking news to report. A

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federal judge has agreed to permit former FBI officials Peter

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Strock and Lisa Page to take sworn testimony from former

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President Donald Trump for two hours as part of their

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long running lawsuit related to Strock's firing in twenty eighteen

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after Trump repeatedly and publicly pilloried the pair of this

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according to Political Politico and its US District Court Judge

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Amy Berman Jackson made that ruling, and for those watching

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Midas touched network consistently, you know that she's been a

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very staunch ally of democracy and the rule of law

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and has not been forgiving to Donald Trump's fascism and

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these insurrectionists at their sentencing and during their trials. But

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Michael Cohen, welcome. And the first thing I want to

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ask you is, how are you doing? Cohen? What's up

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in Cohen world?

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Speaker 2: Boy? It does stop. It doesn't stop. It doesn't stop,

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and in all fairers, we don't want it to stop

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because if it stops, that means that Alvin Bragg has

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decided not to proceed forward. Let me be very clear

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to our brigade, that is not what's happening. I am

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heading back again this upcoming week to the District Attorney's

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office and let me just say the following, because I

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don't want to do what the four person did, not

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that I could, because I am not the four person

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of the grand jury. I will just be testifying eventually

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before the grand jury. Let me just say that we

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are in prep for that date, and that preparation date

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is coming up this week. Then I will find out

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when I will be presented to the grand jury, which

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everybody has expected and has already been put out there

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excited to finally have that opportunity, you know, to provide

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the information that the seventeen previous interviews have finally now

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culminated in. And again this is all moving very quickly.

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I have always said, and you have always heard me

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say the same thing. I am not changing my tune.

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I believe that the New York District Attorney's case is

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the one that is keeping Donald Trump up at night

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more than any other. And I also believe that it

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is the simplest within which to prove because it's based

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upon documentary evidence, as opposed to having to rely upon

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whether or not Donald Trump had men's rea, whether or

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not he had the intent to cause the illegal action,

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even though you know, sometimes there is an illegal act,

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but if there's no men's rea or intent, it kind

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of negates out the charge. Not in this case. And

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I do believe that this is going to be the

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first which would also be the first in US history.

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We have never had a president or are former president

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of the United States indicted. So this is extremely big news.

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There's your experience here. You're hearing it here for the

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first time with smiling benmcellas well.

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Speaker 1: That's what I love about the political beatdown. You know,

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sometimes our producer Salty asks, hey, you know, do we

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have the graphic for that or do we've got the

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video for it? And I joke, I say, Salty, we

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are the graphic, we are the video. Cohen's breaking the

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news right here. And when you had your last meeting

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before the Manhattan District Attorney's office, you talk to us

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about the fact that you left it you believed you

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would go before the grand jury in the next thirty

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days when we had our Tuesday political beatdown, and now

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you're letting us know that next week you're going to

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be going to this one final prep session and then

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you expect to go before the grand jury. That's big

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news that we are breaking right here again on the

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political beatdown. And so when I we asked Cohen Cohen

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any news on your end at the beginning of the show.

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It's why you all need to be here early for

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the live and I want to get your next reaction

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to the breaking news Cohen about this federal case that,

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of course we've been talking about on the Might's Touched network,

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the lawsuit filed by Peter Strock and Lisa Page in

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the DC District Court based on Strock's firing in twenty

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eighteen after Trump harassed and threatened him and continues to

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do so publicly. And Trump says that he trusts Vladimir

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Putin more than Stock in a recent speech. And Amy

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Berman Jackson, the federal judge presiding over it, has just

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ordered Donald Trump's deposition. And what's interesting here is, you know,

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we saw how horrible Trump is during depositions, now one

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where he pled the fifth four hundred plus times in

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the New York Attorney General Letitia James case. Then we saw,

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of course where he actually did answer questions in e.

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Gene Carroll. He was just horrific, like the worst possible

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witness for every single reason.

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Speaker 2: You would almost think that his lawyers didn't properly prepare

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him based upon the answers. But then again, how many

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times been have I turned around and told you that

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Donald Trump is actually dumb. He's so fucking dumb he

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couldn't pass the urine test. And that's the problem. So

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when you have a guy who is historically a liar,

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who is now being recorded in terms of every single

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word that comes out of his mouth, what do you

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think happens? He can't remember the lie that he told

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five minutes ago, or fifteen minutes ago, or a half hour,

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an hour or two hours of what have you, And

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so he keeps this circular, ridiculous commentary going on on

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and on and on, and we get to read it

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on paper so that there is no confusion based upon

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what he's saying. I got to give Peter Struck a

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lot of credit, and I give the judge a lot

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of credit because it's not easy to get Donald Trump

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to the table to be deposed. I can tell you

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this from personal experience. I have a lawsuit pending against

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Trump and the Trump organization. He was supposed to testify,

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He don Junior, Alan Weiselberg, and none of them. They've

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all evaded the dates that they were supposed to And

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ultimately what happened is they had made a motion to

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dismiss the case based upon the fact that the judge

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made a determination that the case that I had brought

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against them for the legal fees was not done for

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the benefit of Donald Trump, but not done for the

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benefit of the Trump organization, but rather for Donald and

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therefore I shouldn't be able to continue with the lawsuit. That,

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of course was overturned, and now we're looking for the

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depositions of Donald Don Junior and Alan Weisselberg. But their lawyer,

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and this is one of the few times I think

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that their lawyers, even though it's going to sound crazy,

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did the smart thing. He turned around and he told

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the judge that if they lose the motion, that they

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do not want to continue with depositions. They just want

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to go straight to trial based upon the damages. In

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that way that Donald don Junior and Allen will never

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have to testify because again they lie during during the deposition.

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such a terrible witness that nothing that comes out of

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his mouth could be beneficial, not just hurt him in

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the case that I have pending against him, but in

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other cases as well.

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Speaker 1: We talked on the last episode of our podcast about

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the subpoena you were served with by Donald Trump. By

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the way, I think one of your arguments forgetting Donald

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Trump's deposition. This is my I'm just giving legal advice

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right now. One of the ways that you can get

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his deposition more easily is to say, look, he deposed me,

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so he's deposing me. I'm deposing him. But have you

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given any more thought to the idea that we floated

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on the last episode about calling Alena Habb. I'm happy

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to call her or your other lawyer can call her.

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I won't be offended and saying to Alena Habba, look,

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Cohen will do it, but we are broadcasting it live

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on the Political Beatdown. We want the camera feed to

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be streamed publicly everywhere. Have you given that more thought?

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And do you think that you think that's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I can't do this date no matter what,

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because I have a conflict that's more important in my

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life than sitting for Donald Trump's deposition. But let me

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be very clear that again, I will probably move to

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quash the subpoena in the fact that it does not

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comport with a whole slew of issues that right now

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is confronting Donald in this specific case. So I will

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probably I'm still waiting for you know, I'm taking it

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under advisement from Council, and I'm still waiting.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you can take it under advisement from council instead

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of your podcast co host. It's okay, exactly. I see

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that being a more savvy move than listening to me here.

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talk off the record about that more. Let's talk though,

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also about Special Counsel Jack Smith's most recent move subpoenaing

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Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump. Look, we've seen some of

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their testimony in the clips during the public January sixth

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committee hearings. You can actually read their full depositions that

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the January sixth Committee took if you want to read

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the full version of that. But I think Jack Smith

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is not just focused on the areas that the January

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sixth Committee was. He seems a lot more focused on

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the financial crimes as well that that Trump has committed

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relating to the insurrection, the campaign finance violations. You know,

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one of the things that Trump did, it's not really

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getting a lot of attention, but he created this pass

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through entity that's basically run by all of his people,

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and this is the first time the entity was created.

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It takes no outside political action committee or committee money

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in general from any other source other than Trump's committees.

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And about seven hundred and sixty nine million dollars went

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to this kind of straw man or straw person entity.

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classic money laundering in the sense that once it goes

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to that entity that has some you know, just sick

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name that that that just kind of blends in, you

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don't know then because you don't have to report where

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the money goes from that entity to all of these

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other sources. So the way you kind of hide its

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by putting it in this entity. And one area that

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we know that Jack Smith's focused on is there. I

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wonder if Jack Smith's also going to focus on Kushner's

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you know, relationship here with the Saudis and and the

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family's relationship with various foreign entities. Remember, Kushner flew back

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on January sixth from his meetings in the Middle East.

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after losing by seven million votes, Kushner and the Saudi

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Sovereign Fund announced a two billion dollar bribe. Essentially is

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what it was to Kushner. You know, Kushner previously turned

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over classified lists to the Saudis of like enemies of

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the Saudi government and a bunch of whole other horrific things.

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But I wonder if Jack Smith goes there, because that

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also relates to the case involving Trump's theft of government

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records regarding why did Trump steal certain documents perhaps related

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to foreign countries to use for transactional purposes? So what

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do you make of this subpoena generally cooling?

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Speaker 2: So it's the way I see it is we have

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to start with what Jack Smith's what his rights actually are.

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I don't believe that he has broad subpoena power over

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any specific issue that comes up. I think that he

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was brought on for a specific issue by Merrick Garland

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and sort of has to stay in that lane of traffic.

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to dissect what is it about Ivanka and Jared that

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Jack Smith being brought on as special council are. The

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almost looks like he may even be looking sort of

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towards a Rico type of a statute, where Donald had

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used so many people in the Commission of the illegality,

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that this could be one of the things that he's

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looking at. On top of that, Jared and Ivanka were

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senior advisors. They were there for a slew of things,

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not just the January sixth committee, but also the movement

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of these documents from the White House to the mar

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A Lago storage facility, as well as other things. Again

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that for within his scope and purview, so specifically what

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it is. Obviously, neither of us have that requisite knowledge

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to talk further, but I can tell you it's not

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a good thing for either Jared or Ivanka. And again,

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that they both gave, one of the problems for them

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escape this subpoena based upon executive privilege. And the mistake

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that's constantly being made, whether it's on television or by reporters,

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is the fact that Donald Trump does not have the

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executive privilege. He is not the president except to this

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MAGA group of people and to most of his Mara

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Lago members, he is not the president so therefore he

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does not possess the executive privilege within which to turn

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around and tell them not to. That would be Joe

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holding them in contempt to the same extent that they

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held and they are holding Steve and inaccountable. I believe

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the answer is yes. Now again, both of them will

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be prepared enough in order to give these sort of

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answer non answers, very similar to the way that Ivanka

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and Jared's answers were given during the January sixth hearings

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in order to protect themselves from perjury what's called one

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thousand and one violation. So all I can do is,

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like so many of you, keep our fingers crossed and

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ensure that they do end up responding to the subpoena,

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appearing for the subpoena, and providing honest and truthful testimony,

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because it certainly will help in terms of the transparency

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issue of what was going on during all of these activities.

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Speaker 1: Before we go on to the next topic, Cohen, I

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like to intersperse a little bit of fun on the

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show as we go through some of these sometimes very

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very heavy matters and dissect him coed, what do you

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like to do for fun? I'm just curious, Like, when

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you're not when you're not at the Manhattan District Attorney's office,

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when you're not seeking justice, what does Michael Cohen like

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to do for fun? I'm just interested.

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Speaker 2: You know. One of the problems that this scenario has

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caused for me is obviously, you know, I lost my

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law license. I will ultimately get it back. On top

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of that, I had lost my business. I still I'm

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somewhat busy with Crisis X, that's the crisis management company. Obviously,

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Maya Culpa takes up quite a bit of time this podcast.

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Now Political beat Down taking up some time. I like

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to take walks, you know, through Central Park here in

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the upper east side of Manhattan. I just like to

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go outside, spend time with you know, friends, with my son,

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my daughter, you know, my wife. But you know, this,

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this has really changed my entire life. You know, obviously,

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as I had said once before, dealing with some health issues,

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and so you know, I unfortunately spend just way too

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much time. I used to make fun of my parents,

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you know, when it came to this sort of stuff,

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you know, when your parents are oh what are you

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doing today? Oh I'm going to see this doctor or

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that doctor. Well, I feel like I'm becoming my parents,

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and I never thought that that day was going to happen.

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So just dealing with a lot of issues. But for fun,

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I just truly enjoy Central Park. I really enjoy walking

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through the park and just listening to music as I

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you know, as I walk and I get my steps in.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite band or a favorite song recently?

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Speaker 2: No, I kind of like The Top, you know. I

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like Flowers like everybody else by my Lee Cyrus. I

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like Ed Sheeran's entire collection of songs. I like to

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go back to some of the eighties and you know,

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the eighty oldies and the nineties. Every now and then,

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you know, send me I like, uh, you know, earth

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Wind and Fire. Yeah. I like obviously Billy Joel. So

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it's sort of that medley of you know, of music

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that you know goes on the shuffle. I use the

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Amazon Music Shuffle, so you know, you put in for example,

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and Sheering and it'll give you all sorts of uh

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music that's on par and similar.

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Speaker 1: You know, the feedback I get about political beatdown. Cohen

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is less of you, Ben, more of Michael, and we

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want to and we want to know more. We like

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when Michael opens up. And there was a moment on

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the last show where, or it could have been two

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shows ago, where you opened up very candidly just about

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what it's like as you prepare for going into the

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Manhattan District Attorney's office. Of course you can't tell us

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specifically what you say, but just even your preparation, what

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it was like when you spoke before Congress, and your

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preparation there, and members of Congress coming up to you

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and you know, and and and saying, look, what you're

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doing is so important, and and all of that gives

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this inside look. I'm gonna go hit the other topics now,

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of course, but I really like this aspect of the

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show too, where people get to to get to really

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know what a great person you are and someone who

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over these past years has become a very very close

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and dear friend to me. Where you and I were

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just like, look, let's share these conversations that we have

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at night or during the day, you know, with the public,

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and that became political beatdown.

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Speaker 2: But I you know, Ben let me be let me

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be clear to you know, to our you know, political

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beatdown brigade, none of this is fun. Uh, this isn't

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financially beneficial. What it is is it's the protection of democracy.

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And you know, there are the folks that are the

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trolls that join to watch what we're doing so that

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they could throw in and make them extremely happy to

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sit there and to say, you know, things that are

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denigrating towards me. And I want to be very clear

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that I don't really care what they have to say.

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I know the purpose. You know, there's an expression right

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that God puts on the shoulder of man what man

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can and when I say man, i'm talking about man

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woman just as human beings can you know, can handle.

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And so many times when I was at Otisville, it

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was actually a priest. There was a pastor that used

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to say this to me. We used to sit and

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have these lengthy, lengthy conversations, and to be very honest

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with you, I used to say the same thing that

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I'm going to say to you all right now. I

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wish it was on the shoulders of someone else. This

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is not something that I go to sleep and say, Yeah,

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this is great. I have a hard time sleep being

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anyway because my brain never shuts off. There's always something

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going on, and it's whether it's the podcast, whether it's

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a potential next book, whether it's having to go back

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to the DA, whether it's to have to find documents

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where those documents can be the preparation, the potential for

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going before a grand jury. And if I go before

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a grand jury, there's no doubt that they'll end up

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being the key witness in that case, a case of

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first precedent, considering we've never had a president or former

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president ever ever indicted. But this is all about democracy.

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This is all about the future of America. This is

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all about standing up truth to power and ensuring that

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that adage to something that democrats constantly say, and I

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say it as well, that no man is above the law.

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If we're going to allow Donald and his acolytes and

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his sickopans to get away with this, what do you

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think ends up happening to our democracy? We lose more

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and more of our constitutional rights time and look, one

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thing I say all the time is that democracy is

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an experiment. It is not a right. It is not

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ingrained in the Constitution. It is something that we all

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have to fight for every single day. And I'm going

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to go on to my fight for speech again, which

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is why this brigade is the single most important thing

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that It's why you know, I enjoy doing this as

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much as I do, to build the brigade so that

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our voices must be heard, Our voices must be acknowledged

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and adhere to, because we stand for truth, we stand

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for right. And to these individuals you know who want

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to comment and say things, well, what you know, Michael

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Cohen is now a true teller. What was he doing

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before when he was working for Donald Trump? I need

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to be clear about this. The Donald Trump that I

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worked for was a real estate development company. What was

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I doing. I was the co president of Trump Productions,

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dealing with stupid shit like The Apprentice, all right, as

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well as some reality shows. We were building buildings around

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you know, the country and looking for opportunities around the world.

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Nothing that Donald Trump did. Yeah, and we fucked over

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you know, contractors and so on. So what how does

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that affect you or your life? It doesn't. But when

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it starts to affect America and American democracy and our children,

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our God willing one day grandchildren and great grandchildren. That's

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when we have to start to say enough is enough.

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And that's why it was my decision when I said

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to George Stephanopolos on ABC that you know, my wife,

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my daughter, my son, and my country have my first,

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you know, priority, they have my first loyalty and that

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they always will and that happens to be the truth.

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And I will continue to speak truth to power regardless

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of how painful it is. And it's not just painful

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to me. It breaks my heart. It rips my soul

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to pieces when I see how my family suffers as

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a direct result of all of this. This is not easy,

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all right, And I don't want people to think for

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a second that there's enjoyment in watching or being a

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part of any of this. It is not. I feel

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it is my duty, and I am willing to sacrifice myself.

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I don't want to sacrifice my family, but you know,

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we sacrifice so much of our own lives in order

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to ensure that justice will ultimately prevail. And here's my

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promise to you, the Brigade, Justice will prevail. That's a

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promise because.

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Speaker 1: The truth will prevail. And being someone who is a

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truth teller against all the death threats, against all the

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disinformation out there is one of the most important things.

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As large media networks have let us all down, it's

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time that we got to reinvent what the media should

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be what it once was. And that brings me to

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the next topic, which is train derailments. I want to

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give everybody some stats though, because as the MAGA Republican

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disinformation echo Chamber has gone into overdrive to attack Secretary

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of Transportation Pete Footages and President Biden about the train

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derailment that took place in East Palestine, I want to

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look at some of the facts here regarding Trump and

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Trump's Transportation Secretary Elaying Chow's time in office. So when

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people start saying thing to all of you brigaders listening

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to this and watching this, I want you to be

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armed with the facts. During the Trump administration, there were

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five thousand, one hundred and three train derailments in the

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United States. Neither Trump nor Transportation Secretary Elaine Chow went

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to a single one of these derailments five thousand, one

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hundred and three. During the Trump administration, there were forty

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four thousand, three hundred and sixty train accidents, with many

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resulting in fatalities. Again, neither Trump nor Transportation Secretary Elaine

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Chow went to a single one of these or talked

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with any of these victims. During the Trump administration, there

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were fifty eight thousand, nine hundred and twenty transportation related

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hazardous hazardous waste leaks and spills, resulting in twenty six

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deaths and dozens of additional injuries. Again, neither Trump nor

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Elaine Chow went to a single one of these accident

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after mats iSER either, nor does it appear that FEMA

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was called in for any of these disasters. Now, I

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want you to compare that to the effort of President Biden,

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who immediately immediately reached out to the governor of Ohio,

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Governor DeWine, a Republican governor in a state of Ohio

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that is controlled by a Republican Senate, a Republican House,

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It's a Republican county, it has a Republican the company,

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the train company is a Republican CEO. And by the way,

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Donald Trump took efforts to undo critical Obama era regulations

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that would have mandated certain breaking features on trains carrying

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toxic substances. It's the arsonist in Trump going to visit

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the fire that they created. They've also destroyed the fire

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department and chucking, and I kid you not. Here's the

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number about a dozen pallets of water. Does everybody know

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how much water is in a palette? Two thousand, eight

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hundred and eighty bottles of water are in a palette.

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And does there anybody know how much a pallet costs

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a palette of water? It's about five hundred bucks there

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it is. I looked it up before the show, about

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five hundred bucks. So Donald Trump, grifting off of people,

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gave about fifty five hundred dollars worth of water. Maybe

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everybody in the town gets two bottles of water. By

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the way, he said it was Trump water and then

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spread the disinformation that it is Biden and boodhag Edge

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who didn't want to help. But look, here's the clip

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of Ohio Governor Mike DeWine talking as soon after the

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train derailment in East Palestine that Biden reached out right away.

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Speaker 3: Look, the President called me and said anything nude. I

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have not called him back after that conversation. I will

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not hesitate to do that if we were seeing a

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problem or anything.

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Speaker 4: But I'm not seeing it.

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Speaker 1: There you have it. I've not called him back. I'm

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not seeing it. Here's what I want to talk about. Also,

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here's a Trump tweet from August third, twenty seventeen, where

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he says, I'm continuing to get rid of call costly

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and unnecessary regulations. Much work left to do, but effect

483
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will be great business and jobs will grow. And then

484
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Fortune magazine reported on September twenty fourth of twenty eighteen,

485
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Trump rolls back train breaking rule meant to keep oil

486
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tankers from exploding near communities. And there's a video for

487
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all of this. So here's the things. I just referenced

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the headline in Trump's post, But there's videos for all

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of this. So here's a video of Trump's ribbon cutting

490
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where he celebrated undoing the Obama era regulations that would

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have stopped the train derailment in East Palestine. Play this clip.

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Speaker 3: When Americans are free to thrive, innovate, and prosper, there

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is no challenge too great, no task too large, and

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no goal beyond their reach. We are a nation of

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explorers and pioneers and innovators and inventors, and regulations have

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been hurting that and hurting it badly. We are a

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nation of people who work hard, dream big, and who

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never ever give up. We are Americans, and the future

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belongs to us. So together, let's cut the red tape.

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Let's set free our dreams. And yes, let's make America

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great again. And one of the ways we're going to

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do that is by getting rid of a lot of

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unnecessary regulation.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Come on, oh here, come on, Oh what do we

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all gather around?

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Speaker 3: Come on, you will set a big part of this.

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Come on, we'll make it.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 5: This is what we have now, this is where we

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were in nineteen sixty and when we're finished, which won't

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be in too long a period of time, we will

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be less than where we were in nineteen sixty and

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we will have a great regulatory climate day.

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Speaker 3: Come on up here, Chris, come on, he works so hard.

516
00:32:07,559 --> 00:32:09,079
On Helene, are you okay?

517
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Speaker 4: Come on?

518
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah.

519
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Speaker 2: She has a lot to do with it. She has

520
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things called roads that's a big and bridges.

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00:32:16,759 --> 00:32:20,559
Speaker 5: Right, okay, one two three?

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Speaker 2: I mean I think maybe they should go to Chris

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right one two three, at least cognitively he's there, right,

524
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I mean, you know, man, woman Child Camera TV. I

525
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,920
mean one, two, three, at least he still knows his numbers.

526
00:32:45,079 --> 00:32:47,519
I mean, I like to see Donald sing the ABC song.

527
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,519
The guy is so fucking stupid it's scary. He doesn't

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00:32:50,599 --> 00:32:54,759
understand the necessity of regulation because he also is a

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00:32:54,799 --> 00:32:57,720
guy who doesn't believe in science, and he doesn't believe

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in climate change. And again, I don't want people to

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00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,680
think that, you know, anytime that Donald says something that

532
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,559
I'm going to find a reason within which to bash him.

533
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,559
I am using his own words. These are things that

534
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,559
he said. He does not believe in science, he does

535
00:33:12,599 --> 00:33:16,839
not believe in climate change. Well, really, look at what

536
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,759
we're experiencing day in and day out. Oh my god,

537
00:33:19,799 --> 00:33:22,799
the stupid ass cut a ribbon showing what a whole

538
00:33:22,839 --> 00:33:25,759
slew of documents and then showing it compared to nineteen

539
00:33:25,799 --> 00:33:31,000
sixty regulation. That's because our technology and because our humanity

540
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,079
has improved so much over the years that we need

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regulation to stop big business, to stop companies from destroying

542
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,880
our environment, from destroying our water, from destroying our air

543
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,440
that we breathe. It's so stupid. It's the same thing

544
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,680
here to roll back on breaks. I mean, this thing

545
00:33:51,759 --> 00:33:54,279
is all lay, Yeah, she knows a lot about roads.

546
00:33:54,839 --> 00:33:57,720
What the hell is he talking about? That's the whole thing.

547
00:33:57,759 --> 00:34:00,279
And nobody called them out. They sit there and they

548
00:34:00,319 --> 00:34:03,559
just scratch their head in wonder, saying, what is this

549
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:08,400
orange crusted mandarin Mussolini even talking about? And the answer

550
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,239
is nobody knows because he doesn't say anything. It's just

551
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,920
a series of words with no end to it. It's

552
00:34:16,039 --> 00:34:18,360
just it's a roll on and a roll on and

553
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,719
a roll on and nothing that nothing comes out of it.

554
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,360
It's just nonsense. Donald knows how to tear things apart.

555
00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:28,400
He has no idea how to build something or how

556
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,159
to do something. Compare that to what we see with

557
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:35,400
Joe Biden today. In his twenty four plus months, Joe

558
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:41,039
Biden has passed twenty three meaningful acts, mostly or bipartisan,

559
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:45,639
hard to believe, from infrastructure to the reduction of medical

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00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:51,639
expenses including pharmataceuticals and so on, or the extrication of

561
00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:56,960
people from the United States military from Afghanistan got from

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the infrastructure built. I mean, for God's sakes, these things

563
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,679
that will improve the lives of Americans. Name one thing

564
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,679
that Donald did that improved the lives of anyone other

565
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,000
than is mar A Lago members and to his close friends.

566
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,679
The answer is to no one. So look, folks, this

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00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,800
is really out of control. And I'll tell you something.

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I am speaking with Malcolm Nance about this the other day.

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One of the things that I'm a little disappointed about

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is the speed to which things are happening in East Palestine, Ohio.

571
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If I was in charge, let me be very clear

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00:35:34,639 --> 00:35:37,519
what I would do right now, not send people udages

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00:35:37,679 --> 00:35:40,159
down a week or so after with a hard hat

574
00:35:40,199 --> 00:35:43,760
asking questions. There's no question that needs to be asked.

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There is a fucking train that derailed carrying hazardous material period,

576
00:35:50,039 --> 00:35:52,760
end of story. So here's what we do. Right off

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the bat. I would have fifty or one hundred super

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trailers onto it. Pick up the fucking trains that are

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all burnt out, some may be still smoldering, put them

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00:36:03,519 --> 00:36:06,519
on top of these these what do you call it,

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these machines, these carts, and ship them off to a facility,

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a Butler building that we build to store it so

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that it could be evaluated down in the future. And

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then what you do is you start to rip into

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the ground, take all of the rails down and start

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checking the samples of the dirt. More importantly, if you

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want to make the people of is Palestine comfortable, especially

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those that are closer to the accident site, the first

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thing you do is you bring down scientists. We used

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to do this in Otisville when I was at the

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FCI Federal Correctional Institute of Otisville. I would accumulate from

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three different areas water and they would be tested every

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day in order to see what the pH is, the

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sulfur and so on. Do the same test to ensure

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and show the people. Do it in front of them,

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each and every one of you. Bring me water from

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your sints, bring me waters from your bathtubs, bring me

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00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,679
water from wherever the hell you want, and let's test

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it to see what's going on with the water. I mean,

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we have the capability to do that. That's the first

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thing I would have sent down. And again, grab these trailers,

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00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,280
take these trains, pick them up. Don't leave them there

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00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,360
sitting there, so that everybody, every day for a week

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00:37:22,559 --> 00:37:26,360
can drive past it and be reminded it's time to act.

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There's no time to sit there and to pontificate about it.

606
00:37:30,599 --> 00:37:34,519
There's nothing to pontificate about. Get the shit off the ground,

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00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,480
rip up the tracks, test the water, all right, and

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00:37:37,559 --> 00:37:41,239
make people feel comfortable that the ground is not polluted

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with these with these contaminants. It's plain and simple. That's

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what they need to do. And the whole thing would

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cost you know what, ten twenty thirty million dollars not

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to end. Then, by the way, build that shit to

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the to the rail company. They're responsible for it. Send

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them the goddamn bill. I mean, that's how simple that

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it is. Instead, everybody wants to sit there and you know,

616
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,239
throw out their idea as well, we should maybe talk

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about doing this and that bullshit. It's a natural, it's

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a catastrophe, disaster. Time to move on it and make

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the people of East Palestine comfortable because they deserve that.

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Speaker 1: So I obviously agree with the point that you're trying

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00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,719
to make. But let me give you a thought, and

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that is that Biden wanted to do all of those things.

623
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And Biden tried to do all of those things. And

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00:38:32,599 --> 00:38:39,000
in our system of federalism, everything that you just described

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00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:47,440
inherently relies on a decision of states as well and

626
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:53,039
the leadership of the governor. And it is a perplexing

627
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:58,519
and disastrous state of the state where you have a

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governor like Dewan, who is supposed to be the person

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with the boots on the ground coordinating action by the

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federal government. But the federal government's response to disasters under

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00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:19,039
our federalism system, given states rights as well as the

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rights of the federal government, is such that if the

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state government says it's not an emergency, stay out, the

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federal government in a situation like that would generally not say, well,

635
00:39:32,599 --> 00:39:37,119
we are taking over your state. That's just the practical reality.

636
00:39:37,199 --> 00:39:41,079
I do have a criticism though, of the Biden administration here,

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which is to your point Cohen as well. When you

638
00:39:45,519 --> 00:39:51,440
said no one is actually calling out Trump and all

639
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:55,519
of the disinformation. It took you and me Cohen, approximately

640
00:39:55,559 --> 00:39:59,480
what three minutes and thirty seconds to give the facts.

641
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So it's not hard to give the facts appropriately and

642
00:40:04,599 --> 00:40:08,639
to call out the disinformation. But what Biden has to

643
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:13,719
realize now is that the climate here and the media

644
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:19,719
is very much akin to Russian propaganda, and it is

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00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,679
not a media that is doing its job. And you

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00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:27,559
do not have two good faith political parties. You've got

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a pro democracy party in the Democrats, and you've got

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00:40:31,079 --> 00:40:34,840
a party that wants fascism, and that wants the Trump

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that the Donald Trump colt. So what you have to do,

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as I gave you the other stat and the Trump administration,

651
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there was five one hundred and three trained derailments with

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twenty two fatalities, and he showed up to none of them.

653
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,760
The media doesn't hold that accountable. Democrats didn't call that

654
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out at that time, and perhaps they should have. But

655
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what Biden needs to do is exactly what Ukraine did

656
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,760
with Putin before or the invasion and during the early

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stages of the invasion. To your point also about Trump,

658
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,119
he's an idiot. That's the saving grace here. A lot

659
00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:12,880
of these MAGA Republicans are idiots. They're not playing chess,

660
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,880
they're playing checkers, fascist checkers. But what you have to

661
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:22,719
do now, as people upholding and fighting for our democracy,

662
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:27,639
you have to predict the move that they are going

663
00:41:27,679 --> 00:41:33,679
to take. The plan that is the craziest plan inherently

664
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,000
designed to set you up. So you have to just

665
00:41:37,079 --> 00:41:40,599
be like, look, here's what they're going to do. Even

666
00:41:40,639 --> 00:41:46,960
if the steps that we would take seem unreasonable and irrational,

667
00:41:47,199 --> 00:41:49,840
you have to go and you have to say, here

668
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,480
is what Vladimir Putin is about to do. Before he

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does it, and a Buddha j edge and the communications

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arm of what's taking place and the action, they have

671
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:04,760
to go out and say, look, we've offered DeWine, you know,

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00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,480
hold the press conference. We've offered the wine, everything, all

673
00:42:08,519 --> 00:42:11,480
of the things that Michael Cohen said, we've offered. We

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00:42:11,599 --> 00:42:14,360
are a bit perplexed that they are not accepting it.

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00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,760
We stand ready, and we are deeply disappointed in that

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00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:22,679
you have to do that today to get ahead of

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00:42:22,679 --> 00:42:25,960
it because of these bad faith actors. And speaking about

678
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,920
these bad faith actors, one of the purveyors of all

679
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,559
of the disinformation plan is Steve Bannon. We talked about.

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Speaker 2: If I can before we get onto Steve Bannon, because

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that's a couple of minutes here. You know, one of

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the things that Biden can do is he could always

683
00:42:42,639 --> 00:42:45,519
invoke interstate commerce and that he can make it into

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a federal issue. On top of that, the second that

685
00:42:48,199 --> 00:42:53,159
there was allegations that these toxins were leaking into the

686
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waterways or polluting the grounds and so on, it becomes

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environmental protection. And you know what, at the end end

688
00:43:00,199 --> 00:43:04,039
of the day, yes, I totally agree with you that

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most mayors, governors do not want the federal government coming

690
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,800
in and handling issues. But if we can make this

691
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into a federal issue, which I believe that we can

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based upon it happened on the rails, which are you know,

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00:43:17,639 --> 00:43:22,079
controlled by the Department of Transportation, it is a federal issue,

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00:43:22,079 --> 00:43:25,800
and I think that based upon interstate commerce rules, there

695
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,960
is always a way. See this is what Donald did.

696
00:43:29,199 --> 00:43:33,320
Why this twenty eight percent of the Republican Party, these maggots,

697
00:43:33,559 --> 00:43:35,840
why they love him so much because he didn't give

698
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,400
a shit. If he was the president, he thought that

699
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,800
there was a way for this disaster to benefit him.

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00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,840
He would be out there right now doing something. He's

701
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,920
not talking to a governor. Fuck him, I could care less.

702
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,199
He's not going to speak to a mayor. Mayor, mayor

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00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,360
who mayor go scratch your ass. I'm sending in the

704
00:43:53,559 --> 00:43:55,960
you know, the Fedans and we're going to handle this.

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00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,519
And so now, unfortunately, right Donald's not smart enough in

706
00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:03,239
order to handle anything. But if you take some concept

707
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:07,159
like that whereby it is a federal issue, regardless of

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00:44:07,159 --> 00:44:09,360
whatever the mayor or the governor, you don't want to

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00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:13,840
say about it because they're playing politics with the lives,

710
00:44:14,079 --> 00:44:19,239
the daily lives of these residents of East Palestine. That's unacceptable.

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And as far as I'm concerned, I hope that every

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single resident of East Palestine remembers today, remember yesterday and

713
00:44:27,159 --> 00:44:31,400
the week before. Remember the response by Joe Biden, Remember

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00:44:31,519 --> 00:44:35,000
what his Remember what guys like the Wine you know,

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00:44:35,079 --> 00:44:39,840
are doing, which are interfering with their community getting back

716
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,280
on its feet. Shame on, Shame on them, and remember

717
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,039
that when they go to the polls Now. I apologize that.

718
00:44:46,159 --> 00:44:49,039
Let's go back to one of my favorite topics of

719
00:44:49,079 --> 00:44:52,639
all time, the lunatic himself, Steve Bannon.

720
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:58,119
Speaker 1: So you know Robert Costello, right, I mean, unfortunately I do,

721
00:44:59,039 --> 00:45:03,719
And so about two weeks or so ago, obviously Costello

722
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,800
or his law firm had leaked to the press that

723
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,639
Bannon wasn't paying his bills, and they and the strategy

724
00:45:10,679 --> 00:45:15,840
there Cohen just for everybody, is like they were telling Bannon, look,

725
00:45:16,639 --> 00:45:19,000
we're gonna sue you. This is a move that they

726
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:23,239
believed would embarrass Bannon into paying to avoid the lawsuit.

727
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,400
But you know, these these these maggots as you call,

728
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,639
they also don't pay their bills, and so Costello has

729
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:36,280
to know when he's representing someone like a Bannon. Good

730
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,800
luck collecting and you and I talked about one of

731
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,199
the lawyers for Trump who was like, look, you gotta

732
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,639
just just just write me the three million dollar check

733
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,840
up front. That lawyer also happens to be a foreign

734
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,360
agent for the government of Venezuela. And that was the

735
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,599
lawyer who said, give me the three million dollars up front.

736
00:45:55,519 --> 00:45:58,639
And here this lawyer didn't get the money upfront. They

737
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,199
the lawyer worked with Bann and on the part in

738
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:02,679
that Donald Trump gave. I don't even know if you

739
00:46:02,679 --> 00:46:04,920
have to really work for that at that point, I mean,

740
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,239
it was just asking it. And after assisting and aiding

741
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,000
and and betting the insurrection, Donald Trump wanted to make

742
00:46:11,039 --> 00:46:13,639
sure that he could cover for all of the fascist

743
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:17,400
in his inner orbit. But this lawyer did a lot

744
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:23,559
of work on that case, on the obstruction of the Congress,

745
00:46:23,559 --> 00:46:27,440
not showing up to the testimony of Congress where Bannon

746
00:46:27,519 --> 00:46:31,320
was convicted on two counts. There about eight hundred and

747
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:36,199
fifty five thousand dollars in legal fees and the firm

748
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,920
wasn't paid about half a million dollars of that, and

749
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:45,079
they filed the lawsuit against Bannon today. And you know,

750
00:46:45,199 --> 00:46:48,599
I mean, you know, when you go down this it's

751
00:46:48,599 --> 00:46:51,599
not a rabbit hole. When when you just you don't

752
00:46:51,599 --> 00:46:53,719
have to go down that far, when you.

753
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 2: Just simply fit down the rabbit hole, do you totally don't.

754
00:46:58,519 --> 00:47:02,039
I've got it'd be one big ass rabbit hole you

755
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:02,639
get to it.

756
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: Bannon's being funded though, by a Chinese billionaire who Bannon

757
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,800
told the plot that regardless of what the results of

758
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,280
the twenty twenty election would be, that they would that

759
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,400
here was the plan that Donald Trump was going to contested.

760
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,760
He told that to a billionaire from China who funds

761
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,639
all of the disinformation operations of Bannon, Like, you can't

762
00:47:24,679 --> 00:47:27,840
make this stuff up. In fact, when Bannon was arrested

763
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,000
the first time for the we Build the Wall scam

764
00:47:31,039 --> 00:47:35,199
where he grifted and stole hundreds of thousands or millions

765
00:47:35,199 --> 00:47:37,800
of dollars for people on gofund me to the wall

766
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,320
that they lied and said Mexico was going to build,

767
00:47:41,639 --> 00:47:44,519
he was arrested on the Chinese billionaire's yacht, like off

768
00:47:44,599 --> 00:47:47,559
the coast of Connecticut. What do you make of this?

769
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 2: Coch So look, let me be very clear, Bannon very

770
00:47:51,039 --> 00:47:56,239
similar to Donald they have one ideology. They have one philosophy,

771
00:47:56,599 --> 00:48:00,519
which is, once that money HiT's my pocket, it's mine,

772
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,280
regardless of what the reason that they've collected the money.

773
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,440
For example, Steve Bannon build the wall, go fund me

774
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,559
to second that hit the account, he declared it his own,

775
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,679
and they're not giving that up. So legal fees to

776
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,559
guys like Bob Costello, who's not worth two cents in

777
00:48:18,599 --> 00:48:22,320
my opinion anyway, he's not going to pay him a dime.

778
00:48:22,679 --> 00:48:26,280
The fact is they also believe that they are above

779
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:30,039
having to pay legal fees. It is an honor and

780
00:48:30,119 --> 00:48:33,800
a privilege to work for them free of charge. And

781
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,360
that's you know, that's part of like, for example, the

782
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,559
lawsuit that I have against Donald, whereby he had me,

783
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,719
you know, doing things on his behalf and never ended

784
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,440
up paying for it, which of course I had to

785
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,440
pay for and so you know, now I'm going to

786
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,000
get my money back, there's no doubt in my mind.

787
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,159
And exposed, well, look what can I do? Expose Donald

788
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,519
for being you know, a cheap skate, for being a

789
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:04,000
you know, a grifter. Everybody already knows that Steve Bannon

790
00:49:04,159 --> 00:49:07,519
is identical to Donald when it comes to this and

791
00:49:07,599 --> 00:49:11,719
so if anybody thinks, especially Costello, thought for a second

792
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,679
that he was going to get paid, he's as stupid

793
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:19,239
as his former boss, Rudy Calludy drunken Giuliani, who thought

794
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,119
that he was going to get Donald to pay him

795
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,639
like one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a day because

796
00:49:24,679 --> 00:49:27,920
they were raising so much money from uh, you know,

797
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:33,280
from these unsuspecting maggots, these maga fools that just keep

798
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,719
sending their money in. Rudy actually wanted his pay, He

799
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,760
wanted his piece like the mob. He wanted his taste.

800
00:49:40,119 --> 00:49:44,199
Donald basically gave him not one, not two. Donald grew

801
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,519
two extra limbs. He can give him four few fingers

802
00:49:47,639 --> 00:49:50,440
and say, you're not getting a damn dollar from this money.

803
00:49:50,639 --> 00:49:53,360
You didn't, you know, even if you accomplished what you

804
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,119
were tasked to do, I'm still not giving you a

805
00:49:56,199 --> 00:49:58,960
dollar because I want the money in my pocket, and

806
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,079
it's better in my pocket then in yours.

807
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,199
Speaker 1: I can't top that, Coen, So I'm moving on to

808
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:10,079
the next topic. I completely agree the truth.

809
00:50:10,119 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 2: If the truth hurts, sorry, but this.

810
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: Facts, facts, facts, facts, all right. Fulton County, the grand

811
00:50:18,039 --> 00:50:22,159
jury four person who basically serves as the leader in

812
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:26,519
essence of the Special grand Jury. We know that portions

813
00:50:26,559 --> 00:50:29,800
of the report were released last week. We talked about

814
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:35,519
it here on the Political Beatdown. My overall thought, though,

815
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:39,599
just so everybody knows the process. The special grand Jury

816
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:44,880
does not make indictments. They make recommendations. There's a separate

817
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:49,559
grand jury that is or will be impaneled very shortly

818
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:55,280
that's going to make the ultimate charging decision, and the

819
00:50:55,440 --> 00:51:00,360
report is going to be presented there. So ultimately, to me,

820
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,840
the process of a special grand jury and a grand

821
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:08,960
jury from a legal perspective, does it now give Trump

822
00:51:09,119 --> 00:51:14,239
and other individuals who may be criminally indicted? Does it

823
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:18,360
give them an argument that they shouldn't have been given

824
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,760
that this four persons out there speaking to the media. Yes,

825
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:27,280
it gives them an argument. Do I feel that legally

826
00:51:28,199 --> 00:51:32,679
that argument is going to prevail? No? And Donald Trump's

827
00:51:32,679 --> 00:51:36,280
out there talking publicly about all of these things. Also

828
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:41,199
so in terms of any prejudice that's being created from publicity,

829
00:51:41,559 --> 00:51:45,519
when Donald Trump calls out the Fulton County District Attorney

830
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,599
and says these heinous and horrific things about her and

831
00:51:48,639 --> 00:51:53,159
threatens people's lives in Georgia, If there's prejudice being created.

832
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:58,960
It's from Donald Trump, not from the Fulton County process.

833
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:03,079
But I do want to say this for all of

834
00:52:03,079 --> 00:52:06,679
the people out there though, who have been very critical

835
00:52:07,039 --> 00:52:11,519
of Merrick Garland for not moving fast enough, and many

836
00:52:11,559 --> 00:52:16,239
times I'm with you and I agree there or Special

837
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:20,320
Counsel Jack Smith not moving quick enough, or even Alvin Bragg,

838
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:24,519
what are you doing not moving quick enough? One of

839
00:52:24,559 --> 00:52:29,159
the most important things here from my legal perspective, is

840
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:35,159
moving very very carefully. And I think if I have

841
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:39,559
a critique of what's gone in Fulton County, Georgia, it

842
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:45,000
was a failure to coordinate between when the special grand

843
00:52:45,079 --> 00:52:49,239
jury ended, when the new grand jury would begin, and

844
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:53,679
knowing that the report would ultimately be public in some

845
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:58,119
shape or form, and making sure you time it so

846
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:03,119
the indictments happened shortly after the special grand jury reports released,

847
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:07,079
and that timing needed to certainly be tighter than it was,

848
00:53:07,199 --> 00:53:12,159
because the reality is is that it's hard to expect

849
00:53:13,079 --> 00:53:17,679
a special grand jury comprised of twenty six individuals three

850
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:23,159
alternates after more than a month of being relieved to

851
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,440
not be baited. And you may recall those who watched

852
00:53:26,519 --> 00:53:31,719
the political beatdown. Cohen and I talked very specifically about

853
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:36,480
the psychological tactic that Donald Trump was utilizing when he

854
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:42,239
posted total exoneration, Total exoneration, And what we said is

855
00:53:42,639 --> 00:53:46,559
he was trying to bait somebody in the Special grand

856
00:53:46,639 --> 00:53:50,519
Jury to speak publicly so he could whine and play

857
00:53:50,679 --> 00:53:53,880
the victim card and then say, oh, my due process

858
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:59,119
rights have been violated. And for Fawnie Willis, the Fulton

859
00:53:59,119 --> 00:54:02,880
County District Jorney, my criticism is, you got to time

860
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,400
that better. Special grand jury ends. The grand jury almost

861
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,960
runs parallel, indictments happen. You got to figure out on

862
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,719
your calendar how to make that work. I mean, look,

863
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:19,079
to me, the four person did no favors, and perhaps

864
00:54:19,119 --> 00:54:24,280
that's an understatement, but I'm not here the sky is

865
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:29,519
falling down. This is gonna stop prosecution from taking place.

866
00:54:30,559 --> 00:54:34,840
But to me, it also reflects, though the diligent work

867
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,800
that you've never heard a thing about what's going on. Usually,

868
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,960
you know, you haven't even heard Special Counsel Jack Smith talk.

869
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:45,480
And you know, there's that point. I wanted to point

870
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:49,360
out Cohen as someone who's involved in these high profile situations,

871
00:54:49,639 --> 00:54:53,920
including one right now, you have to walk that fine line,

872
00:54:54,199 --> 00:54:56,320
and you're a pro, so you know how to walk it.

873
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,599
Speaker 2: So so let me say this first of all, I

874
00:54:59,639 --> 00:55:05,320
don't see it as being damaging to the case. Should

875
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:09,119
Fanny Willis end up filing an indictment, it would make

876
00:55:09,199 --> 00:55:13,360
no difference. Donald Trump's legal team will find any argument

877
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,440
that they can, or make one up in order to

878
00:55:16,519 --> 00:55:20,239
try to have the case dismissed, or, as you said,

879
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,239
to exonerate him completely. I don't believe he meant the

880
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,400
word exonerate. I think when he was completely exonerate, I

881
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,480
think in exonerate you have to put you know, constipated,

882
00:55:29,519 --> 00:55:34,119
because he's completely constipated, not just you know, in his bowels,

883
00:55:34,119 --> 00:55:37,159
but in his brain. Nothing seems to be working right

884
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,440
with this guy. And at the end of the day,

885
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,920
the case should only be brought if in fact the

886
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:48,239
prosecutor has the legal has the legal justification to do so,

887
00:55:48,559 --> 00:55:51,159
and you have the evidence within which to prove it.

888
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,039
If not, they should just walk away from it. Now.

889
00:55:54,119 --> 00:55:56,760
Do I think that they have it? Sure? They have it.

890
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,039
Do I think it's going to be an easy case?

891
00:55:59,360 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 1: No?

892
00:55:59,599 --> 00:56:02,199
Speaker 2: I don't. I think the District Attorney of New York's

893
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,360
case is a whole lot easier. But there is a

894
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,199
notion and I am one hundred percent against it, and

895
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,119
I say it to many many people, including people who

896
00:56:11,119 --> 00:56:15,199
I represent when in my crisis X practice, when they

897
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,280
have a legal issue. Well, the first thing that lawyers

898
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,000
will tell their clients to say nothing. Judges don't like

899
00:56:21,039 --> 00:56:23,480
if you say anything, you know, don't talk to the media,

900
00:56:23,519 --> 00:56:27,880
don't bullshit because what happens there is that only one

901
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,039
side and it's never to your benefit. Only one side

902
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,159
is ever heard. As far as I'm concerned, the four

903
00:56:34,199 --> 00:56:36,639
women wanted to turn around and she wanted to make

904
00:56:36,679 --> 00:56:39,440
a statement. Good. You know why, I say it's good

905
00:56:39,639 --> 00:56:43,599
because you ben because I because the brigade, Because everybody,

906
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:48,239
we're entitled to transparency. We're entitled to know what's going

907
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,199
on inside the grand jury. As far as I'm concerned,

908
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,199
I think that all grand juries should actually be televised,

909
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,920
all right, especially ones that involved the former president of

910
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:05,239
the United States, a guy, a guy who is a racist, sexist, misogynistic, xenophobic, homophobic,

911
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:10,360
Islamophobic antisemite who wants to destroy democracy and to create

912
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,920
an autocracy out of our country. How could this not

913
00:57:14,039 --> 00:57:17,280
be televised? It? And if it was you wouldn't have

914
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,599
to worry about what she says because we'd already have

915
00:57:19,719 --> 00:57:22,960
watched it very much like we watch the hearings. The

916
00:57:23,079 --> 00:57:26,960
problem is that there is not There is no real transparency,

917
00:57:27,239 --> 00:57:30,559
and everybody who calls for transparency, they say, well, you know,

918
00:57:30,679 --> 00:57:34,000
it's our process and our method. Screw that. The same

919
00:57:34,079 --> 00:57:37,320
bullshit is going on with Foyer. You cannot get a

920
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:41,000
document out of Foyer because they constantly fight you on it.

921
00:57:41,039 --> 00:57:44,360
And I'm going through this right now with Foyer, they

922
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,960
keep turning around and telling you, oh, well, it interferes

923
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:51,360
with our process and method in accumulating information. Really, I'm

924
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,880
not asking for the name of the detective or the

925
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,519
name of the informant or anything like that. I just

926
00:57:56,599 --> 00:57:59,280
want to see what that person said. I want to

927
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,960
be able to use that information the same way that

928
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,960
we're using information in this drip drip drip by Like

929
00:58:05,039 --> 00:58:08,880
my complaint, my bar complaint against Jeffrey Berman, the former

930
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,199
head of the Southern District of New York, that was

931
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:15,119
colluding with Main Justice in order to go after me

932
00:58:15,559 --> 00:58:18,440
for what because Bill Barr and Donald Trump told them

933
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,559
to do it. This is not transparency. If we are

934
00:58:21,639 --> 00:58:25,400
going to be a country of laws and justice, then

935
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,760
we need transparency. Otherwise what we are is we're a

936
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,760
country of laws with no justice. And as far as

937
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,360
whatever I can do and as far as I can

938
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,800
go in as much as I can tell not just

939
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:40,199
the brigade, but the entire country about what's going on

940
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,159
at the DA's case or the AG's case, if I

941
00:58:43,239 --> 00:58:46,639
get called to testify, I am going to be out there.

942
00:58:46,719 --> 00:58:49,960
I am not prohibited, and neither was this four person.

943
00:58:50,239 --> 00:58:52,960
The fact that they don't like it, you know, as

944
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,199
we like to say here in New York, tough shit.

945
00:58:56,239 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more with the Coen And it seems

946
00:58:58,559 --> 00:59:02,159
like the message now that's coming out from the MAGA

947
00:59:02,239 --> 00:59:09,159
cam though, is Trump can't win in America. So basically,

948
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:14,159
let's make a new country, right, that's basically the new country.

949
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Speaker 2: Let's not just try it in Saudi Arabia, and we'll

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ask Mohammed ben Salmon and his royal relatives to be

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the judge and the jury. I mean, that's what they

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basically want. They want to destroy this democracy, make it

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into an autocracy. That even though that Trump knows he

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can't win, and he knows he can't win because what

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he's done is illegal, and there's thousands and thousands, if

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not hundreds of thousands of documents proving it. He doesn't

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care about that. He wants what's good for him and

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only him. I'm sorry, Ben, you were saying.

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Speaker 1: To close out the show though, I want you to react,

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and I think we have this clip of Marjorie Taylor

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Green calling for secession now being platformed on Fox. Like

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I think when the Fox text messages and emails were

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released in terms of the same depths of depravity, there

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are no depths to the depravity of the Maga Republican

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Party at this point too. And it was before, but

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at this point, like there's no even pretending anymore right

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from Fox or the Maga Republicans. It's just like fascism.

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We wanted secession. I want to show you this clip

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for Marjorie Taylor Green, and then I want you to

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close out the show by reacting.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Play this clip and do.

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Speaker 2: You expect it will happen?

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Speaker 4: Last question, Well, I think it's something that we should

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work towards because you know, it's kind of the vision

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that our founding fathers had for America, and I think

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it's a great when it worked in the beginning. We

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just got it completely out of control. So I hope

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we can get there all right.

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Speaker 1: Marjorie Taylor Green, thanks for explaining it all to us.

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We appreciate it as always when we come back like

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the dumbest stuff ever. Cohen, what's your.

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Speaker 2: You know what, I'll tell you that. I'm really more disappointed.

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It is Sean Hannity. Again. I had a chance to

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get to know him for many, many years, and the

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fact that he was able to keep a straight face.

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Is this buffoon sat there talking about the secession of

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states and divorcing red and blue states, including this genius

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came up with an idea and you can't make this

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shit up. I mean, this is this is not This

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would be great if it was on South Park or

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a Family Guy episode, or you know, one of these

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you know cartoons. Marjorie Taylor Green wanted that if you

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are a Democrat and you move into a Republican state,

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you're not permitted to vote for five years. I mean

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talk about democracy. Yeah, that sounds like democracy to me.

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I don't know what country she thinks she's living in,

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this idiot. I mean, it's so infuriating and I don't

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understand how she is still a member of Congress, the

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fact that she that she has an office in the

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People's House, that she wears a pin as a member

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of Congress, the fact that you and I will be

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paying for that idiot's Healthcaren, and and she's gonna end

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up with a pension for the rest of her life

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simply because she won an election. She is a traitorous,

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ignorant buffoon. And the fact that we have to put

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up with this, this sort of stupidity and nonsense, to

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me is just it's overwhelming, and I don't understand it,

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and something has to happen. And the something is she

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needs to be voted out of office, which is why,

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once again, before I close the show, I'm telling you

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to our political Beatdown Brigade. It's so important your sponsorship,

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your continuation to watch and to be a part of

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this show too. And I'm gonna let Ben just tell

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where to go ahead and to help to keep these

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type of shows you know, out there, so that we

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could keep informing you of the truth, that our voices

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cumulatively can be heard and that we can make a difference.

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And that difference has to ensure that people like the

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Marjorie Taylor Greens, Josh Holsey's The Pull Ghost Stars. These

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people have no place in our house and they need

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to be removed and removed immediately.

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Speaker 1: Look, with all the disinformation echo chambers out there, we

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need to combat it with the truth. That's why we

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created the Midas Touch Network, and that's why we created

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Should check out Michael Cohen's new book, Revenge. It is

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an incredible read. How did Donald Trump? How Donald Trump

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weaponized the United States Department of Justice against his critics?

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things that we have on the Maya Kulpa podcast is

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this Saturday, We've got the exclusive on Michael Cohen's one

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or the former insiders about each other, about what transpired.

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It's a really, really incredible interview. So make sure you

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and make sure you subscribe on audio. That's it for now,

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Thanks for listening to this week's edition, the Thursday edition

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of Political Beatdown with Michael Cohen and Ben Micellis. We

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so appreciate all of you. None of this is possible

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without the Brigade again, thank you, thank you, thank you

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so much, and we'll see you next time on the

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Political Beatdown. Shout out to the Midas Mighty