WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.480 --> 00:00:06.280 Check Podcasts. 2 00:00:06.679 --> 00:00:10.160 Thanks for listening to the Donnie and Dolly podcast. Catch 3 00:00:10.199 --> 00:00:13.279 the show Monday through Fudday, ten am to noon on Check. 4 00:00:14.160 --> 00:00:15.480 I think you're gonna want to hear this. 5 00:00:17.839 --> 00:00:22.239 Your local sports coverage lives here. Two nothing It's Alva 6 00:00:23.039 --> 00:00:26.039 not so fast cohole breath with John Taylor. 7 00:00:26.280 --> 00:00:28.719 I say that the winner of the draft lottery should 8 00:00:28.719 --> 00:00:29.960 be the winner of a two man loose. 9 00:00:30.199 --> 00:00:32.759 And Rick Dolly Wall I had a cherry tree up 10 00:00:32.759 --> 00:00:34.560 a little Ricky. I used to go up that tree 11 00:00:34.600 --> 00:00:36.520 and just sit there for hours and munch on those 12 00:00:36.600 --> 00:00:37.320 cherry years. 13 00:00:37.439 --> 00:00:41.600 Donnie and Dolly. 14 00:00:41.960 --> 00:00:44.799 Ten o'clock get downtown Vancouver bro the Paul Carson Studio. 15 00:00:44.840 --> 00:00:47.000 Thanks for tuning in, folks. It's Donnie and Dolly the 16 00:00:47.039 --> 00:00:50.159 team on Check. Don Taylor, along with Rick Dolly Wall. 17 00:00:50.520 --> 00:00:53.560 Ryan Henderson is our producer. He is at the controls 18 00:00:53.960 --> 00:00:57.719 our direct here. The voice of God is Derek Wong. 19 00:00:58.600 --> 00:00:59.799 How are you could be better? 20 00:01:00.719 --> 00:01:00.799 This? 21 00:01:01.039 --> 00:01:03.880 Just in We understand that the Canucks are going to 22 00:01:03.920 --> 00:01:06.400 have a press conference today at one o'clock to introduce 23 00:01:06.480 --> 00:01:12.000 Daniel and Hendrick Sadein as co presidents of Hockey Operations, 24 00:01:12.079 --> 00:01:16.760 Ryan Johnson as the thirteenth general manager in Canuck franchise 25 00:01:16.920 --> 00:01:21.439 history at that time. We also understand the Canucks will 26 00:01:21.439 --> 00:01:25.560 go out of their way to draft the Ruck twins 27 00:01:25.840 --> 00:01:29.040 out of medicine. Hat you were just like this argument 28 00:01:29.079 --> 00:01:31.599 we just had is so ridiculous. 29 00:01:31.760 --> 00:01:33.719 We just had a big fight two seconds for the 30 00:01:33.920 --> 00:01:37.120 because Ryan pissed me off and I'm we're and we're 31 00:01:37.239 --> 00:01:40.040 yelling and screaming, all three of us. I need to 32 00:01:40.079 --> 00:01:42.280 calm down. My blood pressure's too high rate. You just 33 00:01:42.280 --> 00:01:43.680 didn't understand what I don't know. 34 00:01:44.760 --> 00:01:46.239 I don't want to talk, so that it looks like 35 00:01:46.319 --> 00:01:49.760 because the Wild lost yesterday, Yeah, so they won't advance 36 00:01:49.879 --> 00:01:53.000 to Hockey's version of the Final Four, that the Canucks 37 00:01:53.040 --> 00:01:56.480 are going to draft twenty fourth and thirty second after 38 00:01:56.519 --> 00:01:59.519 they draft third overall. So Ryan and I were saying, well, 39 00:02:00.159 --> 00:02:03.799 they'll go for the rout ones so from BC and 40 00:02:03.840 --> 00:02:06.079 you just flip your lid. 41 00:02:06.519 --> 00:02:08.599 Because I because you went on and on about I 42 00:02:08.680 --> 00:02:11.919 know inside info that there the hope in the plan 43 00:02:12.599 --> 00:02:15.439 is for one team to get both Rock brothers. Yeah, 44 00:02:17.039 --> 00:02:20.520 but but by picks one after the other, not picking 45 00:02:20.560 --> 00:02:25.840 twenty nine seven, that's hard to do, Like, yeah, it's 46 00:02:25.879 --> 00:02:28.719 harder than what we're talking about anyways. Look, you guys, 47 00:02:28.719 --> 00:02:30.360 both of you, you went on and on about the 48 00:02:30.400 --> 00:02:33.120 flames having all these the second round of PILs got 49 00:02:33.120 --> 00:02:36.280 four second round picks before that. I know you have 50 00:02:36.319 --> 00:02:38.280 to so you picks before. So you think Canucks are 51 00:02:38.280 --> 00:02:40.639 getting both that they picked one and then wait ten picks, 52 00:02:40.840 --> 00:02:44.400 Well maybe they they'll take a chance. Well Brian Burke. 53 00:02:44.199 --> 00:02:47.400 Pulled off the mir of the center, and how that's 54 00:02:47.400 --> 00:02:50.439 not gonna happen again. Yeah, well, and we're talking about 55 00:02:50.479 --> 00:02:51.719 ninety nine and the Sedines. 56 00:02:51.800 --> 00:02:53.080 You can try to your point. 57 00:02:53.120 --> 00:02:56.120 If the Canucks take the first one, you see another 58 00:02:56.159 --> 00:02:57.639 team taking the second one. 59 00:02:57.479 --> 00:03:00.800 Why wouldn't they They're both extremely good. But if the 60 00:03:00.879 --> 00:03:03.520 preferences they want, ten teams are gonna say, hey, Vancouver 61 00:03:03.560 --> 00:03:05.719 have both in the mock drafts. They fit in that 62 00:03:05.759 --> 00:03:09.800 way too. Yeah, we're when we're talking about how is 63 00:03:09.840 --> 00:03:12.680 it like, I don't get it. You're so upcited about that. 64 00:03:13.520 --> 00:03:15.520 You did flip your perving world. 65 00:03:15.520 --> 00:03:18.319 The Rocks are gonna go say something like this, twenty 66 00:03:18.400 --> 00:03:21.840 nine to thirty thirty three, thirty four. Sure, in a 67 00:03:21.840 --> 00:03:24.560 perfect world, what I think that's the plan. But for 68 00:03:24.599 --> 00:03:26.800 you guys to sit there and say the Canucks take 69 00:03:26.840 --> 00:03:30.120 one rock, ten teams pass on the second Rock, and 70 00:03:30.159 --> 00:03:33.039 the Canucks get them ten picks. That's way more realistic 71 00:03:33.080 --> 00:03:34.479 than when you were talking right of. 72 00:03:34.479 --> 00:03:36.599 The Flames pick in the second round. Do we know 73 00:03:36.680 --> 00:03:37.719 he's got four they. 74 00:03:37.520 --> 00:03:41.280 Back to back? Anyways, I don't know why they're talking 75 00:03:41.280 --> 00:03:45.240 about plan and we're fighting about the Ruck brothers. Incredible, Yeah, 76 00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:48.280 but you're really adamant that we're out of our minds 77 00:03:48.280 --> 00:03:51.639 for suggesting that. I don't think Ryan got me riled up. 78 00:03:51.680 --> 00:03:54.080 Did you have that information? I'm checking it right now, 79 00:03:55.120 --> 00:03:56.919 the Flame here, it is right here. Flames. 80 00:03:57.439 --> 00:04:00.560 They've got picked twenty eight. Okay, so that'll be after 81 00:04:00.599 --> 00:04:03.599 the Canucks. They've got picked thirty five, that'll be after 82 00:04:03.639 --> 00:04:07.719 the Canucks. There you go, that's great, that's. 83 00:04:07.599 --> 00:04:09.840 Good on that. So you eight teams are going to 84 00:04:09.879 --> 00:04:14.240 pass on the second Ruck. I mean you're saying, okay, 85 00:04:14.479 --> 00:04:17.040 they're literally identical in talent. 86 00:04:17.480 --> 00:04:20.439 You're saying they are there. One's more of a scorer, 87 00:04:20.519 --> 00:04:21.839 one's more of a playmaker. 88 00:04:22.040 --> 00:04:25.720 Yeah, similar to Yeah, but both had the incredible Yeah, 89 00:04:25.839 --> 00:04:29.639 exactly right. So I just can't believe that. 90 00:04:29.720 --> 00:04:32.800 You're like, so the Flames would have to do some 91 00:04:32.959 --> 00:04:35.560 maneuvering in order to draft them back to back. 92 00:04:36.279 --> 00:04:38.360 The teams are doing beyond the scenes right now. They're 93 00:04:38.360 --> 00:04:40.480 trying to figure out how we can get them both. 94 00:04:41.120 --> 00:04:44.519 Anyways, Oh, maybe the Canucks could throw a wrench into 95 00:04:44.560 --> 00:04:47.480 the plans of the Calgary Flames blood pressure. 96 00:04:47.199 --> 00:04:50.839 High Why like you're are half a Ryan pissed me 97 00:04:50.879 --> 00:04:52.800 off before the show and we were yelling, all three 98 00:04:52.800 --> 00:04:56.439 of us. Anyways, one o'clock you believe this. 99 00:04:56.600 --> 00:04:59.600 One o'clock today is when that press conference starts at 100 00:04:59.680 --> 00:05:03.319 Roger Arena to introduce Daniel and Henrik because the new 101 00:05:03.360 --> 00:05:07.839 Grand pubas of the Canuck Organization Hockey Operations, Ryan Johnson 102 00:05:07.879 --> 00:05:11.519 as the thirteenth GM and we called it yesterday. I 103 00:05:11.560 --> 00:05:13.600 don't know if it's the hot dog guy or whatever. 104 00:05:13.600 --> 00:05:17.199 The situation is. They can't have a press conference during 105 00:05:17.240 --> 00:05:19.360 the you know, the body of our show to maybe 106 00:05:19.399 --> 00:05:21.519 help us out right, they're moving on. 107 00:05:21.680 --> 00:05:23.240 It's a new regime. 108 00:05:23.360 --> 00:05:25.360 But now one o'clock they have to do it after 109 00:05:25.399 --> 00:05:28.480 our show has finished. And I think that's the plan, 110 00:05:28.680 --> 00:05:32.040 just that, you know what, it was a bigger decision 111 00:05:32.120 --> 00:05:34.680 the timing of this press conference than the actual hiring 112 00:05:34.720 --> 00:05:37.000 of the Sedines and Ryan Johnson. 113 00:05:37.040 --> 00:05:39.199 How can we mess up Donnie and Dolly? You Neil 114 00:05:39.199 --> 00:05:42.360 that I think the hot dog guy set the press 115 00:05:42.439 --> 00:05:44.879 at one. He doesn't like us. I've been told did you. 116 00:05:44.839 --> 00:05:49.000 See this, by the way, this Brendan Bachelor tweet voice 117 00:05:49.040 --> 00:05:51.959 of the Canucks Sun Radio Sports nd at six fifty 118 00:05:52.560 --> 00:05:55.839 Brendan Bachelor our friend. He's been on the show several times. 119 00:05:55.920 --> 00:05:56.399 Good guy. 120 00:05:57.399 --> 00:06:01.519 He went back to twenty eighteen when the Wins, Daniel 121 00:06:01.519 --> 00:06:05.560 and Henrik Sedein retired as players, and they we've got 122 00:06:05.600 --> 00:06:09.800 the clip here, Derek were good and they were asked 123 00:06:09.839 --> 00:06:12.720 by Brandon about their futures. 124 00:06:12.920 --> 00:06:16.199 Yep, do either of you have any particular interests in 125 00:06:16.199 --> 00:06:18.800 that regard, whether it be coaching or management or scouting. 126 00:06:19.519 --> 00:06:25.360 President Wow, I believe that was Henrik. That was Henrik. 127 00:06:25.399 --> 00:06:29.879 I think back in twenty eighteen, time flies eight years ago. 128 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:32.319 And here they are. They're going to be the shot callers. 129 00:06:32.639 --> 00:06:36.079 Ryan Johnson's got to report to Well Hope, so they're done. 130 00:06:36.279 --> 00:06:39.439 They're gonna report, and the Sadein's got to report to. 131 00:06:39.439 --> 00:06:41.920 The ownership, and do you know what they'll be reporting. 132 00:06:42.199 --> 00:06:44.000 Let's go out of our way to draft the rug 133 00:06:44.040 --> 00:06:48.519 Twins twenty four and thirty seconds. And then there was 134 00:06:48.560 --> 00:06:52.839 this other story yesterday about do we still call him 135 00:06:52.839 --> 00:06:57.680 the president Jim Rutherford? You know, nothing's been an official. 136 00:06:57.319 --> 00:07:01.759 To slip into advisors, Well, my dream job. I think 137 00:07:01.759 --> 00:07:03.720 he's inn advisor mode now. 138 00:07:04.560 --> 00:07:07.439 But he's cleaned out his office. Farhand tweeted that out yet. 139 00:07:07.519 --> 00:07:10.040 Yeah, he's cleaned out his office and I totally see 140 00:07:10.040 --> 00:07:12.920 it cardboard box. Yeah. I think it's time now for 141 00:07:13.000 --> 00:07:16.439 him to say some new people in charge. I'm in 142 00:07:16.480 --> 00:07:18.759 the background, I'm out of here, I'm out of here. 143 00:07:19.279 --> 00:07:22.160 Okay, so this is These are Forehand's tweets from yesterday. 144 00:07:22.199 --> 00:07:25.160 Jaran Rutherford cleaned out his office yesterday. He followed that 145 00:07:25.279 --> 00:07:27.519 up with no one should take this to mean he's 146 00:07:27.600 --> 00:07:31.040 left the organization or leaving town yet. But didn't he 147 00:07:31.240 --> 00:07:34.560 talk about moving to Carolina and doing his advising from there, 148 00:07:35.079 --> 00:07:36.920 which again more respect. I mean, if you can get 149 00:07:36.920 --> 00:07:38.399 a job like that, you're hanging out. 150 00:07:39.079 --> 00:07:40.319 Halfway across the country. 151 00:07:40.360 --> 00:07:43.680 And isn't Dale Talon also an advisor? What's happening with him. 152 00:07:43.480 --> 00:07:47.360 That they've got advisor's galore about getting some you know 153 00:07:47.399 --> 00:07:47.959 people in here. 154 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:51.199 You know they should hire his advisors? Is us like honestly, 155 00:07:51.240 --> 00:07:53.399 we advise them a lot. They don't listen to. 156 00:07:53.480 --> 00:07:56.160 Us for their media relations. They should ask us what 157 00:07:56.240 --> 00:08:02.279 to do. Okay. Also, Ryan john again, thirteenth GM in 158 00:08:02.360 --> 00:08:05.959 Cannucks history, taking over from Patrick L. Alvin. Is he 159 00:08:06.000 --> 00:08:08.240 an advisor to is he sticking around? 160 00:08:09.720 --> 00:08:13.560 Speaking of which, this Knoblock situation in epiten. So he 161 00:08:13.600 --> 00:08:16.079 gets let We're gonna get to Ryan Johnson talk about 162 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:18.399 him a little bit more in a second. But Chris 163 00:08:18.439 --> 00:08:21.519 Knoblock gets let go this morning as head coach the 164 00:08:21.560 --> 00:08:25.759 hebuton Oilers, his three year extension hasn't kicked in. It 165 00:08:25.800 --> 00:08:30.759 hasn't the's people with my dream jobs Ruththerford, Chris Knoblock, 166 00:08:30.959 --> 00:08:35.000 my gosh, all right, almost see what happens in Ebitton 167 00:08:35.080 --> 00:08:35.639 in the future. 168 00:08:35.639 --> 00:08:37.200 But okay, So. 169 00:08:38.720 --> 00:08:41.519 Ryan Johnson played with the connuction, was a shot blocking forward. 170 00:08:41.799 --> 00:08:44.440 People don't know about him as a journeyman for it. 171 00:08:44.559 --> 00:08:47.679 That's not a knock at all. He went out of 172 00:08:47.720 --> 00:08:50.960 his way to keep his job, killing penalties, you know, 173 00:08:51.080 --> 00:08:54.000 third fourth line, whatever it took to keep a job. 174 00:08:54.639 --> 00:08:57.080 And so you know, here's a guy who can relate 175 00:08:57.440 --> 00:09:00.279 to the majority of players in the National hockey not 176 00:09:00.320 --> 00:09:03.559 necessarily the stars of the Superstars. But as a player, 177 00:09:03.799 --> 00:09:06.200 he knows what it's like, you know, to hang on 178 00:09:06.440 --> 00:09:09.240 like that, and that I have total everybody a total 179 00:09:09.320 --> 00:09:12.240 respect for that. So we want to go back to 180 00:09:12.279 --> 00:09:16.080 the too. And not many people have heard from Ryan Johnson, 181 00:09:16.120 --> 00:09:19.639 certainly not on a regular basis, So we went back 182 00:09:20.279 --> 00:09:24.240 looked at some YouTube clips. This is Ryan Johnson from 183 00:09:24.279 --> 00:09:28.360 Back in the Fall, reflecting on Abbotsford's twenty twenty five 184 00:09:29.240 --> 00:09:30.320 called her Cup Run. 185 00:09:30.399 --> 00:09:32.279 And this is Ryan's. 186 00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:34.720 Philosophy, and I thought this he came across in very 187 00:09:34.759 --> 00:09:39.279 impressive fashion. Here his philosophy on dealing with young players. 188 00:09:39.320 --> 00:09:43.600 Remember this is a rebuilding team. Now we hope Canuck 189 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:46.600 fans hope his philosophy on dealing with young players who 190 00:09:46.679 --> 00:09:49.840 are inevitably on the ice off the ice, going to 191 00:09:49.879 --> 00:09:50.559 make mistakes. 192 00:09:51.120 --> 00:09:55.240 Our environment allows you to fail and feel vulnerable to 193 00:09:55.240 --> 00:09:58.039 make mistakes. I think a lot of rookies they come 194 00:09:58.080 --> 00:10:02.240 in and yeah, it's a huge culture shift from living 195 00:10:02.320 --> 00:10:05.159 on their own to pro how you get guys with 196 00:10:05.480 --> 00:10:08.639 kids and it's a whole different shift, and food and 197 00:10:09.240 --> 00:10:10.960 all these things. Is trying to take some of that 198 00:10:11.039 --> 00:10:14.000 off the table for them, but then allowing a safe 199 00:10:14.200 --> 00:10:17.120 space for them to walk in every day and be 200 00:10:17.200 --> 00:10:20.080 able to ask questions, be able to be vulnerable and 201 00:10:21.039 --> 00:10:24.799 make mistakes and not feel, oh my gosh, you know 202 00:10:24.840 --> 00:10:28.039 I made a mistake tonight. I'm not playing tomorrow. I mean, yeah, 203 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:29.480 is there accountability to it? 204 00:10:29.759 --> 00:10:30.200 For sure? 205 00:10:30.320 --> 00:10:33.720 And that happens at times and sometimes a guy needs 206 00:10:33.720 --> 00:10:38.919 a reset. But I think we've again creating a consistent environment. 207 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:42.960 The one thing I'd learned very early in managing a 208 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:46.200 group was when there's volatility day to day of what 209 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:49.240 the environment looks like, it's very hard for players to 210 00:10:50.120 --> 00:10:52.759 come in and learn or have a plan. I always 211 00:10:52.799 --> 00:10:54.679 preach all I want you to have a plan every day, 212 00:10:54.720 --> 00:10:56.440 so when you go to bed at night, think about 213 00:10:56.679 --> 00:10:59.799 what exactly tomorrow is going to look like, as opposed 214 00:10:59.799 --> 00:11:03.159 to taking up and walking in and seeing what happens. 215 00:11:03.440 --> 00:11:06.799 But if your environment is so volatile, and hey, we 216 00:11:06.799 --> 00:11:08.720 had a tough game last night, it might walk in, 217 00:11:08.840 --> 00:11:11.159 we might not Coach might not look at me, Coach 218 00:11:11.240 --> 00:11:13.360 might not talk to me. We might get bag scared, 219 00:11:13.399 --> 00:11:17.840 we might that volatility interrupts development. 220 00:11:18.080 --> 00:11:18.559 It does. 221 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:26.320 That's smart, not impressive, oppressive, smart, intelligent. He's a sharp 222 00:11:26.440 --> 00:11:30.279 dude and combined with the Sedine Twins, it's going to 223 00:11:30.279 --> 00:11:32.399 be a good management crew. You just watch, yeah, And 224 00:11:32.720 --> 00:11:33.759 I think, to. 225 00:11:35.279 --> 00:11:40.120 Summarize what he was talking about, I don't think that anyone, 226 00:11:40.159 --> 00:11:44.879 no matter what line of work you're in, pro hockey broadcasting, 227 00:11:45.759 --> 00:11:49.919 working on a construction site, playing scared. Working scared is 228 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:53.480 not a positive thing. Where you're looking over your shoulder 229 00:11:53.559 --> 00:11:56.480 every second, you can't relax. And again he makes the 230 00:11:56.519 --> 00:11:59.240 point there has to be accountability. You can't keep making 231 00:11:59.240 --> 00:12:02.200 the same mistakes over and over again. But you don't 232 00:12:02.200 --> 00:12:06.679 want young players, especially and today's players are different. You 233 00:12:06.679 --> 00:12:08.320 don't want players coming to work. 234 00:12:08.120 --> 00:12:11.200 Every day worried about their job and. 235 00:12:12.919 --> 00:12:16.440 Getting yelled at, versus being an environment where they can 236 00:12:16.519 --> 00:12:18.600 learn and wait where they can get better. I thought 237 00:12:18.639 --> 00:12:22.320 that was a really impressive, impressive clip from Ryan Johnson. 238 00:12:22.679 --> 00:12:26.919 We heard Maxison on this show yesterday rave about him 239 00:12:27.879 --> 00:12:31.600 and call them a father figure. And you know he 240 00:12:31.720 --> 00:12:33.879 treats people right. That's the one thing. I've had a 241 00:12:33.919 --> 00:12:36.120 lot of agents reach out in the last twenty four hours. 242 00:12:36.440 --> 00:12:37.559 They're all happy for. 243 00:12:37.600 --> 00:12:39.639 Ryan, the same ones that told you about the rut wing. 244 00:12:40.519 --> 00:12:43.639 They're all happy for Ryan because he's a great guy. 245 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:46.240 And you know what, he's a sharp guy. But I 246 00:12:46.360 --> 00:12:48.480 haven't had one agent call me or text me in 247 00:12:48.480 --> 00:12:51.559 the last twenty four hours say bad move, bad move 248 00:12:51.639 --> 00:12:54.879 by the Canucks. You know why, because he treats people good. 249 00:12:55.159 --> 00:12:57.519 He wouldn't do what the Canucks did to Bruce Boudreau 250 00:12:57.840 --> 00:13:00.600 and others as well. He's not going to He's not that. 251 00:13:00.720 --> 00:13:03.679 He doesn't got it in his DNA to treat Boudreau 252 00:13:03.759 --> 00:13:06.399 like the Canucks did. And the Sadin twins don't have 253 00:13:06.480 --> 00:13:08.840 it as well. It's not in their DNA to treat 254 00:13:08.919 --> 00:13:11.559 people back. You want them to be tough. They have 255 00:13:11.639 --> 00:13:13.679 to be or they're gonna get eaten alive. They're gonna 256 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:14.320 get eat in the alive. 257 00:13:14.519 --> 00:13:17.919 To do that publicly. What the Canucks did horror back 258 00:13:17.960 --> 00:13:22.399 then is harbs. It cannot make for a good, good environment. 259 00:13:22.440 --> 00:13:25.519 And you talk about working while looking over your shoulder 260 00:13:25.600 --> 00:13:28.360 and being worried about your job status. I thought Bruce 261 00:13:28.399 --> 00:13:31.440 Boudreau set the till. That situation set the tone for 262 00:13:31.519 --> 00:13:35.279 this last management group, the one that's going out the door. 263 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:37.799 It was it was bad karma. There was so much, 264 00:13:38.399 --> 00:13:41.120 so much wrong with it. Let's get to the waddling 265 00:13:41.200 --> 00:13:44.519 dog pole question again one o'clock today at Roger's Arena. 266 00:13:44.600 --> 00:13:48.799 It will be made official Daniel and Hendrik Sedein Connuck presidents, 267 00:13:49.279 --> 00:13:52.799 Ryan Johnson, general Manager. This leads to the Waddling Dog 268 00:13:52.879 --> 00:13:56.919 pole question experience one of Victoria's iconic destinations, sleep, sip 269 00:13:56.960 --> 00:14:00.559 and stock up all on one legendary spot. Come at 270 00:14:00.559 --> 00:14:04.320 the dog today wreck all right, Ryan, get her. 271 00:14:04.320 --> 00:14:06.240 Up the wattling dog pop pole question. What's the most 272 00:14:06.240 --> 00:14:08.639 important question you want answered? 273 00:14:08.679 --> 00:14:08.759 It? 274 00:14:08.840 --> 00:14:11.639 Today's Canucks press or look at this commitment to the 275 00:14:11.639 --> 00:14:14.519 rebuild is leading the way by a large margin sixty. 276 00:14:15.600 --> 00:14:19.120 Then comes some clarity on the head coach Adam Footmanny Mahultra. 277 00:14:19.879 --> 00:14:22.279 Then comes dealing with Aliash Petterson. Are they going to 278 00:14:22.320 --> 00:14:24.600 try and trade him this summer? And at last is 279 00:14:24.639 --> 00:14:27.240 the rest of the management structure? Are the Canucks going 280 00:14:27.320 --> 00:14:32.000 to hire another assistant GM? Stay tuned, we should find 281 00:14:32.039 --> 00:14:33.240 out and what happened? 282 00:14:33.279 --> 00:14:37.399 What happens to the the agms who are still in 283 00:14:37.440 --> 00:14:42.320 the office. Cammi Granado, Big, big, big, big question we 284 00:14:42.320 --> 00:14:46.000 should get We should get clarity on Cammi and Emily today. 285 00:14:46.559 --> 00:14:49.159 Are they talking to people about a new AGM coming 286 00:14:49.200 --> 00:14:52.440 to town? Do they need more analytics. CAP guys, Well, 287 00:14:52.480 --> 00:14:53.679 that's where I would go, is it? 288 00:14:53.799 --> 00:14:58.360 Because you know Ryan Johnson, the Sedines, I don't know 289 00:14:59.039 --> 00:15:03.120 how much they value analytics. I'm sure they do, but 290 00:15:03.200 --> 00:15:06.960 that's I'm guessing that's not their area of expertise. And 291 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:08.759 are they And you have to have that have that 292 00:15:08.879 --> 00:15:12.200 these days, people who know the CAP inside out, know 293 00:15:12.279 --> 00:15:12.840 the CBA. 294 00:15:12.919 --> 00:15:15.399 You mentioned this yesterday inside They got to know the 295 00:15:15.440 --> 00:15:16.720 CBA inside out because. 296 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:20.360 No analytics, and get people who who can address your 297 00:15:20.399 --> 00:15:24.399 weaknesses as a manager or a president. As for dealing 298 00:15:24.399 --> 00:15:27.720 with the EP forty and trading with them, let's forget that, Rick. 299 00:15:27.799 --> 00:15:33.559 Let's start here. The Sedines at early in their careers, Yes, 300 00:15:34.799 --> 00:15:37.039 they weren't in the best shape, and they and and 301 00:15:37.120 --> 00:15:40.519 this is what's happening with Elias Peedison true right now 302 00:15:40.559 --> 00:15:43.120 from what we understood, and they went out of their 303 00:15:43.159 --> 00:15:47.799 way to improve their fitness and their games skyrocketed from there. 304 00:15:48.279 --> 00:15:50.799 So I would think, for you know, trading EP forty 305 00:15:50.879 --> 00:15:53.759 is a pipe dream. I would think, give given the contract, 306 00:15:54.159 --> 00:15:57.120 but work with what you have and make sure this guy, 307 00:15:57.519 --> 00:16:00.000 you know, for the first time in a long time 308 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:04.200 comes into camp in tip top shape and is stronger, 309 00:16:04.320 --> 00:16:07.320 his bottom half is stronger where he can stay stay 310 00:16:07.399 --> 00:16:09.679 up on his feet and that that that to me 311 00:16:09.759 --> 00:16:12.080 is when you stay dealing with heap of forty That's 312 00:16:12.120 --> 00:16:16.000 where I go head coach Adam foot Manny Malhultra, someone else. 313 00:16:16.080 --> 00:16:19.399 Obviously they have to make a commitment there and the 314 00:16:19.399 --> 00:16:21.799 commitment to a rebuild. I think there's a lot of people, 315 00:16:21.799 --> 00:16:25.159 including myself, I'm still not sure if they are committed. 316 00:16:25.200 --> 00:16:27.480 I want to hear that today. You can't pay eleven 317 00:16:27.519 --> 00:16:29.600 point six million for a guy to get fifty points. 318 00:16:29.759 --> 00:16:31.120 You can't. It's killing you. 319 00:16:31.279 --> 00:16:35.679 Well yeah, and it's it's hard trade somebody with who's 320 00:16:36.120 --> 00:16:38.759 getting fifty points and making eleven points two years old, 321 00:16:39.080 --> 00:16:40.720 even with the cap increasing. 322 00:16:41.320 --> 00:16:43.519 Okay, how are we doing? Ryan? Good? Okay? 323 00:16:44.120 --> 00:16:46.120 Uh dt, we won't. We want to run if we 324 00:16:46.200 --> 00:16:49.000 have time. One of those Max SaaS Sosan clips from yesterday. 325 00:16:49.159 --> 00:16:51.759 He was very impressive on Ryan Johnson. He talked about 326 00:16:51.759 --> 00:16:54.639 the sedines. He talked about the locker room culture last year, 327 00:16:54.799 --> 00:16:57.840 which he admitted was was an issue. DTMZ is it 328 00:16:58.039 --> 00:17:00.679 just me coming up in the eleven o'clock our Thomas 329 00:17:00.799 --> 00:17:05.160 Grants is going in join us from the eleven from 330 00:17:05.160 --> 00:17:08.599 the Athletic just after eleven o'clock from the eleven. I'm 331 00:17:08.599 --> 00:17:11.000 excited about this press conference, other than the fact. 332 00:17:10.759 --> 00:17:14.160 That we don't get to talk about until tomorrow. Big Ride. 333 00:17:14.200 --> 00:17:17.480 The Quitter guy coming up later this hour and up next. 334 00:17:17.519 --> 00:17:19.519 We just talked about his tweets. Far hand los you 335 00:17:19.559 --> 00:17:22.079 from TSN Donnie DOLLI thanks for tuning in, folks. Donnie 336 00:17:22.079 --> 00:17:22.799 Delli the team. 337 00:17:22.640 --> 00:17:27.319 On check Donnie and Dolly. The team is supported by 338 00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:31.839 Abelauntions dot Ca. 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As 358 00:18:45.000 --> 00:18:48.759 we bring in from TSN Farhand Wallsgy I would imagine 359 00:18:48.759 --> 00:18:50.839 on his way to Rogers Arena at one o'clock for 360 00:18:50.880 --> 00:18:52.480 the Conductor press conference. 361 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:53.839 If I got that right, Farhand, how are you? 362 00:18:54.920 --> 00:18:56.240 I mean good? You do have it right? 363 00:18:56.240 --> 00:18:58.519 I gotta go walk my dog first, because that's you know, 364 00:18:58.960 --> 00:19:00.960 that's simply more important. 365 00:19:01.440 --> 00:19:04.119 And uh hey, listen, I've heard that. 366 00:19:04.279 --> 00:19:06.599 With Hendo taking off next week for the birth of 367 00:19:06.640 --> 00:19:10.440 a second child and Quinn Taylor taking over, and then 368 00:19:10.440 --> 00:19:13.319 eventually Hendo and Quinn will. 369 00:19:13.200 --> 00:19:15.200 Be co presidents of this show. 370 00:19:16.279 --> 00:19:20.440 I think they are already actually Farhand Okay, no one's 371 00:19:20.480 --> 00:19:25.000 told Rick, just matter, where does that leave Rick? Though? 372 00:19:27.279 --> 00:19:33.079 Rick looking out looking, You're the GM reporting up to 373 00:19:33.119 --> 00:19:34.240 the presidents. 374 00:19:33.759 --> 00:19:37.160 My friend, and and as a lot of people have 375 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:40.960 pointed out in our bayside inbox, you know how old 376 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:44.599 I am. I'm Rutherford, I'm senior, I'm senior advisor. 377 00:19:44.920 --> 00:19:45.920 Just just a matter. 378 00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:49.599 Of I've heard there's a movement online that the new 379 00:19:50.039 --> 00:19:53.119 slogan for the upcoming season for the Vancouver Canducks just 380 00:19:53.160 --> 00:19:56.119 do it for Donnie, because I think there's a real 381 00:19:56.160 --> 00:19:58.559 desire to get you a cup before you yet to 382 00:19:58.640 --> 00:20:01.039 Jim Rutherford stage year or the year after. 383 00:20:01.279 --> 00:20:03.240 There's a lot of people who would like to see 384 00:20:03.240 --> 00:20:05.519 a cup in their lifetimes and I'm certainly yeah, a 385 00:20:05.559 --> 00:20:06.000 lot of them. 386 00:20:06.160 --> 00:20:07.839 But believe it or not, I am a vanchor of 387 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:09.599 Coca Decade. 388 00:20:09.640 --> 00:20:13.000 Yes, Hey, what's your reaction to all this news farhand? 389 00:20:13.359 --> 00:20:17.039 Ryan Johnson, GM, Daniel and Henrick co presidents. 390 00:20:18.039 --> 00:20:20.880 Look, there's there's two reactions, and I'd like to think 391 00:20:20.880 --> 00:20:21.920 both things can be true. 392 00:20:21.920 --> 00:20:23.519 And one is that for a couple of weeks we 393 00:20:23.519 --> 00:20:23.920 thought this. 394 00:20:23.960 --> 00:20:26.079 Was a really good process, right yep, that they were 395 00:20:26.200 --> 00:20:27.559 they were going to be talking to a number of 396 00:20:27.559 --> 00:20:30.319 different people, learning a lot about the perceptions of the organization, 397 00:20:30.759 --> 00:20:34.079 ideas that other teams use to have their successes and 398 00:20:34.319 --> 00:20:37.119 bring it all back to Vancouver. But then it circles 399 00:20:37.119 --> 00:20:42.119 back to this, right, internal candidates, it's got awfully it's 400 00:20:42.160 --> 00:20:44.279 got an awful lot Turner Linden type vibes right that 401 00:20:44.359 --> 00:20:47.599