Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan ray On Deli Bazy, Boston.
Speaker 2: For Performance by an Actor in a Leading Role, the
Speaker 2: nominees are Adrian Brody in The Brutalist, Timothy Chalmy in
Speaker 2: a Complete, Unknown, Coleman Domingo and sing Singh ray Findes
Speaker 2: in Conclave.
Speaker 3: This is a Conclave, Alder, It's not a rule.
Speaker 2: And Sebastian stan in The Apprentice.
Speaker 4: Hello, this is Donald Trump from mister Cohne. Thank you
Speaker 4: so much, Donald Who.
Speaker 5: For Performance by an Actress in a Leading Role, the
Speaker 5: nominees are Cynthia Arrivo in Wicked, Carlo, Sophia Gascone and
Speaker 5: Amelia Perez, Mikey Madison and Honora Demi Moore in the Substance.
Speaker 4: There's been a slight misuse of the.
Speaker 5: Substance and Fernanda Torres and I'm Still Here.
Speaker 2: Here are the ten ten nominees for Best Motion Picture.
Speaker 5: Of the Year, Honora, Alex Coco, Samantha Kwahan and Sean
Speaker 5: Baker Producers.
Speaker 4: They're Brutalists. Tell me why he's an accomplished foreign architect,
Speaker 4: Shavelin Cole Here in Philadelphia, I'll love it is also.
Speaker 5: So I'm Complete, Unknown, Fred Berger, James Mangold and Alex
Speaker 5: Heineman producers.
Speaker 2: Conclave, Tessa Ross, Juliet Howell and Michael A.
Speaker 5: Jackman producers, June Part two, Mary Parents, Klee Boyder, Tany
Speaker 5: La Pointe and Deniviel Neuve producers.
Speaker 4: When you see sand here, imagine water.
Speaker 3: If you dive in, you can't.
Speaker 4: Reach the bottle you dive in.
Speaker 3: Yes, cultural don't. I don't believe you.
Speaker 4: Amelia Perez, I'm still here. Nike A Boys, the Substance
Speaker 4: and Wicked. Mark Platt producer, Get Ready for the Red
Speaker 4: Carpet Coach, Odie Harrison, George's from the Bosta Globe. Okay,
Speaker 4: I don't have to run through any of these, right,
Speaker 4: everybody's gonna remember what we just played for you. Odie,
Speaker 4: how are you?
Speaker 3: I'm fine? How are you? Thanks for having me on again?
Speaker 4: No, thanks for coming on. I appreciate it. So let's do.
Speaker 4: First of all, I had ten nominees for Best Picture.
Speaker 4: For God's sakes, folks make a decision.
Speaker 3: Well, no, that's the way it used to be. See
Speaker 3: it originally was ten nominees, and then about the nineteen
Speaker 3: forty something they made it five, and then later on
Speaker 3: they wanted to go back to ten. But then they
Speaker 3: started doing that crazy rank thing where eight things get
Speaker 3: nominated one year and nine nominated another year. Do it
Speaker 3: to ten after The Dark Knight didn't get nominated the
Speaker 3: Best Picture, you know, a hobroke loose, and so this
Speaker 3: is the Academy attempting to spread the net to get
Speaker 3: more popular movies nominated some more people who watched the show.
Speaker 3: The ratings are not great, okay, Now with Barbenheimer they
Speaker 3: were better because Barbienhemer was the hot thing right right
Speaker 3: that it was rooting for Barbie Roppenheimer. There's no it
Speaker 3: was wiki eater. But Gladiator two only got one nomination.
Speaker 3: It's just a different world this year. So that's why
Speaker 3: they made it ten ten now. But ten is not
Speaker 3: gonna be usual. It used to be ten.
Speaker 4: So well that makes sense. Thank you for explaining it.
Speaker 4: I appreciate it. Is there anybody in the ten or
Speaker 4: any film in the ten you do not believe is deserving?
Speaker 3: Yeah? A complete unknown for starters. That that's of the ten,
Speaker 3: that's my least favorite. Is the only one that made
Speaker 3: by ten worse list was a complete unknown. And when
Speaker 3: I did the predictions in the paper, you know, for
Speaker 3: best director, which will get to I suppose in the
Speaker 3: second the DGA nominees are your best bet for guessing
Speaker 3: what's going to be nominated for Best Director, and the
Speaker 3: DGA winner that's the director go The DGA winner is
Speaker 3: usually the winner of the actual Best Director OSCAR. They're
Speaker 3: a good go weather of what's going to happen. But
Speaker 3: normally what happens is one of them dropped out. But
Speaker 3: there's five nominees forre get nominated for the OSCAR, and
Speaker 3: one gets the surprise replacement. I dropped out the wrong director,
Speaker 3: so James Mangle got nominated for a Complete Unknown. He
Speaker 3: was the one I dropped out of the directing category.
Speaker 3: The one who did get dropped was Edward Berger or Conclave,
Speaker 3: and quite frankly, they made the wrong choice.
Speaker 4: I agree with you one hundred percent. And I have
Speaker 4: to say I have not seen Complete Unknown. I saw
Speaker 4: Conclave and I thought it was phenomenal.
Speaker 3: I think it's great. It was number nine on my
Speaker 3: ten best list and it's very well directed. Now this
Speaker 3: is from the director whose last movie I hate, All
Speaker 3: Quiet on the Westernront. It was only ten worsleiss I hated,
Speaker 3: so I was telling that I had to be dragged
Speaker 3: to Conclave at this Toronto Film Festival because I didn't
Speaker 3: want to see it. I'm like that this guy director,
Speaker 3: you know Catholic posts. I went to Catholic University. I
Speaker 3: was the guy, I don't want to see this, and
Speaker 3: I went and it was wonderful.
Speaker 4: They did. Yeah, it finds is great. We'll get to
Speaker 4: fines in a minute. So okay, so let me ask
Speaker 4: you this. Do Doom Part two Wicked? And did those
Speaker 4: two have a snowballs chance in hell of winning Best Picture?
Speaker 3: Well, Doom no, and Wicked and Dune had the same problem.
Speaker 3: They both made a lot of money, but they're both not.
Speaker 3: And remember when Lord of the Rings was nominated. All
Speaker 3: three of the Lord of the Rings movies were nominated,
Speaker 3: they waited for the last one to give it the
Speaker 3: Best Picture Oscar Wicked is Wicked Part one, even though
Speaker 3: it's longer than the whole musical. Dune Part two. As
Speaker 3: we saw in Being part two, they pulled the rope
Speaker 3: a dope on us and they're gonna be a Dune
Speaker 3: part three, So I don't think they're gonna it has
Speaker 3: a shot. However, I could be wrong about Wicked June
Speaker 3: Part two. I don't think he has a chance in hell.
Speaker 3: But Wicked, it might surprise us.
Speaker 4: What did you think of Wicked?
Speaker 3: You know I didn't. I did not like Gum part
Speaker 3: two at all. Wicked. I gave two and a half
Speaker 3: stars out of four or two. So that was kind
Speaker 3: of like a steed. I think that those women can sing,
Speaker 3: but it stretched out so long. I stow the musical
Speaker 3: on Broadway, and I thought it was fine. But in
Speaker 3: stretching is that on the two parts? It just I
Speaker 3: just got there and I was bored. But those Cynthia
Speaker 3: Rivo and Arion the Grinding guests, to talk about them
Speaker 3: in a minute, they both sang their butts off, and
Speaker 3: that was a big plus to get people in the
Speaker 3: music who actually can sing.
Speaker 4: Well right, Oh, they're phenomenal. I mean. And I was
Speaker 4: listening to a podcast with Grande who talked about how
Speaker 4: she had to completely reinvent her voice. She totally had
Speaker 4: to change the way that she was singing. And of course,
Speaker 4: just regular people who go to the movies, they don't
Speaker 4: want to think about that. They just think, oh, well,
Speaker 4: she's a pop star, she could sing. She completely She
Speaker 4: went to a coach and spent a year and she
Speaker 4: wasn't even guaranteed the part.
Speaker 3: Right. They were going to change some of the numbers
Speaker 3: to fit her voice right, and she said, no, I
Speaker 3: want to sing it the way that it was written,
Speaker 3: you know, for the musical. You know, I don't want
Speaker 3: to change it to make it sound like it's Ariana
Speaker 3: Grande is popular. I want to make it sound like
Speaker 3: it's even sports is popular. That's the writer of Wicked musical.
Speaker 3: I give her much credit for that. I liked her popular.
Speaker 3: A lot of people didn't, but I thought it was fun.
Speaker 3: I think she's over the top in terms of the
Speaker 3: comedic part of it. So I wasn't exactly crazy about
Speaker 3: her acting. But like I said, I mean, they sang
Speaker 3: and in the musical. That's the best thing you could
Speaker 3: hope for, is that people can sing and they can
Speaker 3: sell the numbers. And they both did.
Speaker 4: I bet you, what do you think about Nickel Boys, Well.
Speaker 3: That was my number one movie of the year. It
Speaker 3: doesn't have a shot in hell Dune has a better
Speaker 3: shot than Nickel Well like Nickel Boys. I mean, they
Speaker 3: didn't nominate the one thing I expected them to nominate
Speaker 3: Nickel Boys for, which is a cinematographer. But I knew
Speaker 3: the director wasn't going to get in, but the cinematography.
Speaker 3: I thought I could have bet money, I could have
Speaker 3: bet a body part that it was going to get
Speaker 3: nominated and I would just have to be implicated because
Speaker 3: they didn't nominate it. I was donne by that Nickel
Speaker 3: Boys think it's two nominations. I think it does. Think
Speaker 3: it as adapted screenplay and that's Sitcher and that's it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm surprised. I see. I really thought Nickel Boys.
Speaker 4: I thought that that might be that might surprise some people.
Speaker 3: No, huh, that's well, I mean to me, when I
Speaker 3: was doing my prediction that I said it was either
Speaker 3: Gon Nickel Boys or Sing Sing and A twenty four
Speaker 3: did Sing Sing Dirty by hiding it from everybody. And
Speaker 3: I saw Stinging a year ago at Tiff. This is
Speaker 3: when Coleman Domingo was getting nominated for rustin which I
Speaker 3: also thought Tiff and so Stinxing was the other hot
Speaker 3: Comen Domingo performance. We had to wait of the year
Speaker 3: to get it, and then A twenty four hit. I
Speaker 3: mean even I had a hard time trying to find
Speaker 3: it to rewatch it. If I could you literalize myself
Speaker 3: with the movie because they've been the year since I've
Speaker 3: seen it. I think You're a twenty four. Put more
Speaker 3: behind it, it would have gotten more nomination. It would
Speaker 3: have been Best Picture, probably placing Nickelboys or I'm Still here.
Speaker 3: It could have lost, but that's not what happens. Singing
Speaker 3: is up for several nominations. The daft to Stein plays
Speaker 3: Coma Domingo for actors. I think there's a song nomination.
Speaker 3: I think it's up for as well.
Speaker 4: So the Complete Unknowns and the Springsteen movie that's coming
Speaker 4: out right.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but the guy that the guy that plays
Speaker 3: with the bear, the Bear whe I haven't seen any
Speaker 3: clips of that because obviously.
Speaker 4: It's not well, they just wrapped. I think they literally.
Speaker 4: I think I heard today like they wrapped today or something.
Speaker 4: I just think these things are impossible, And maybe it's
Speaker 4: because I'm old enough, like I I remember Dylan, I
Speaker 4: remember I certainly remember Springsteen. I love The Bear. It's
Speaker 4: my favorite show. It's my favorite thing on to watch
Speaker 4: on a screen. I am having such a.
Speaker 3: Hard Springsteen though, when that's.
Speaker 4: The PROBABLEM no, no, no, I mean I see it
Speaker 4: like I saw some video of like the Boss, like
Speaker 4: on the streets in Asbury. They're shooting the scene they
Speaker 4: see Jeremy ana White walking down the road with a
Speaker 4: leather jacket. I'm like, WTF, what Well?
Speaker 3: No spring Springsteen gave his approval, But then again a
Speaker 3: lot of these stars give their approval, and I don't
Speaker 3: think they really need They're just doing it, you know,
Speaker 3: because they want you to go see the movie. I
Speaker 3: have not heard Jeremy allah like, and he's singing so
Speaker 3: tim singing Springstein songs. They're not dubbing him. He's actually
Speaker 3: gonna sing just like Timothy Shallowmey is saying for Dylan.
Speaker 3: I've seen Bruce springs down from New Jersey, so obviously
Speaker 3: I've seen Bruce spreasty eight times. I wrote three pieces
Speaker 3: on Bruce Springston in the Paper over the two and
Speaker 3: a half years that've been at the paper. So I'm
Speaker 3: not obviously a huge Bruce speaking fan, and I am
Speaker 3: not looking forward to this. I'm not a huge family's biopics.
Speaker 3: As evidenced by stone of my reviews, they all, you know,
Speaker 3: do the same thing, h and do you buy this person?
Speaker 3: I bought Jamie Fox's Ray Charles because number one, he's
Speaker 3: a classically pain pie in this and a Stinger. So
Speaker 3: he was playing the piano and he kind of looks
Speaker 3: like Ray Charles. I bought it, but you know, Jeremy
Speaker 3: ell and White, I reserve judgment. Will I see it.
Speaker 3: But that's why I asked you would you buy him?
Speaker 4: You know, I don't have you said, I don't have
Speaker 4: high hopes for it at all. I mean, and and Chalomay.
Speaker 4: You know, he's funny on SNL. But as Dylan forget it,
Speaker 4: we just forget it.
Speaker 3: Really, I'm surprised that you're saying. I mean, I got
Speaker 3: so much hate mail from angry boomer.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no Dylan, No no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 4: I just think they should be left untouched. I you
Speaker 4: know the other one. The other one was Freddie Mercury.
Speaker 4: Sasha Baron Cohene was going to play him, which I thought,
Speaker 4: had he had a better shot of pulling it off.
Speaker 4: Then what's his name? I forgot the kid's name. I mean,
Speaker 4: you know, I don't mean it was good.
Speaker 3: No, he wasn't good. And I studied won the Oscar
Speaker 3: because of his tea.
Speaker 4: Because of that's right. I forgot he won the damn thing.
Speaker 4: He wasn't look Freddy Mercury is iconic in my eyes,
Speaker 4: Queen is iconic. I conic, you know, and they're diminishing
Speaker 4: like they're diminishing these guys. That's like The Boss is iconic,
Speaker 4: Freddy Mercury, the Boston Dylan, three of the greatest front
Speaker 4: people in the history of rock and roll, and they
Speaker 4: just water the sauce with these films. I mean the
Speaker 4: Queen movie, I hated it.
Speaker 3: I hate it was number five of my sin worstless.
Speaker 3: I hate it.
Speaker 4: And I wouldn't even watch the Elton John one with
Speaker 4: what's his face?
Speaker 3: That's be good because number one talent, Leggatson's saying he's
Speaker 3: singers on John number two. Unlike the Queen movie, they
Speaker 3: didn't be gay out on John that they gave Freddy Murphy.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 3: I think Blacking Man is a much better movie, was
Speaker 3: much more honest movie with the drugs and is rated
Speaker 3: off and you know Bahemian Rastery. It was a gimmick
Speaker 3: and I think it's the gimmick with a complete which
Speaker 3: is why I despised it so much. It's two hours
Speaker 3: of karaoke. And I said this to my review. If
Speaker 3: you're a Dylan fans, I'm not. I think he's a
Speaker 3: brilliant songwriter, but I can't stand to hear him sing.
Speaker 3: If you are Dylan fan, like I'm a Bruce Spinksbey fan,
Speaker 3: I would rather listen to Bruce Spriinkston's records than go
Speaker 3: see Jeremy Allen White hard fans. So I was kind
Speaker 3: of pissed off that all these people are writing these
Speaker 3: nasty emails because I panned a movie with the twink
Speaker 3: Is playing above Dylan instead of dying. Now in mind,
Speaker 3: there was another movie. I'm gonna get it wrong, I'm
Speaker 3: not there. I think it was what it was called, Yes,
Speaker 3: And he had Kave Blanchet, who looked like Harpo Mark,
Speaker 3: playing Dylan. You had a little black girl playing Dylan.
Speaker 3: I mean, so the whole coast of Dylan and these
Speaker 3: movies with him I never bought into. And I think
Speaker 3: that kind of put me on guard for a complete unknown.
Speaker 3: But there's no movie. It's two hours of people seeing
Speaker 3: cosplay and then it's twenty minutes.
Speaker 4: Often well, I just think that also, you know, a
Speaker 4: lot of the times movies were made because about historical
Speaker 4: individuals because there was no other record of them. I
Speaker 4: can watch Dylan, I can watch Dylan, you know, I
Speaker 4: can watch Springsteen. I don't need to have it recreated.
Speaker 3: I don't you can answer a question for me, because
Speaker 3: this is my The customary review was like, I didn't
Speaker 3: understand why it was such a big deal for doing
Speaker 3: to go electric, and the movie doesn't explain it either,
Speaker 3: And that's what maybe even matter because I went in
Speaker 3: thinking I'm going to learn something and I didn't get squatted.
Speaker 4: Yeah that sucks now. I mean, I think the best movie.
Speaker 4: I think the best it was probably Eddie and the Cruisers,
Speaker 4: the movie that was a fun movie because they I mean,
Speaker 4: I guess it was based on the Doors or supposedly,
Speaker 4: but it was a made up band. All Right, we're
Speaker 4: gonna take a break up again. Don't go anywhere. We
Speaker 4: got a lot more work to do. Odie Henderson, Boston
Speaker 4: Globe talking Oscars next WBZ Now back to DANZ Live
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Speaker 4: Odie Henderson Film credit, Boston Globe talking about the Oscar nominations.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 4: Okay, Odie, So the best picture is it going to
Speaker 4: be The Brutalist or is it going to be Amelia Perez?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I think best pictures a little more
Speaker 3: wide open than you thought. I would have if you
Speaker 3: a week ago, if you'd asked me this question, I
Speaker 3: would have said, Amelia Petters is going to win, then
Speaker 3: Amelia Peti is lead actress.
Speaker 4: With Oh, that's right. Oh I forgot that's right, that's right.
Speaker 4: You fill us in. What happened again, it was her
Speaker 4: social media.
Speaker 3: History or her social media history were surprise me. Netflix
Speaker 3: didn't scrub because usually they do this when there's Oscar consideration,
Speaker 3: because people will dig this up. I mean, there's always oster.
Speaker 3: It's like conclict, there's always you know, hey, yeah, gonna
Speaker 3: be pope. All of a sudden there's some dirt about them, right,
Speaker 3: which is why I love that movie. Simply happens to
Speaker 3: the Oscars. But in this case, what she kept doing was,
Speaker 3: rather than just be apologetic, and even if she relyed,
Speaker 3: she dug herself deeper and deeper. She's continuing to dig
Speaker 3: herself deeper. And it turned out that she was both
Speaker 3: Ani Semitic and is vomophobic and racist and homophobic, and
Speaker 3: it just got worse and worse worse. Now the Oscars voting,
Speaker 3: they start voting on the eleven, they stop voting next
Speaker 3: week and there's a week of them voting, so they
Speaker 3: haven't actually started to vote yet. But what's going to
Speaker 3: be best whatever, So they started voting already. I they
Speaker 3: would have said a million Petters is going to win.
Speaker 3: But now I wonder what's going to happen there. Now
Speaker 3: the Brutalist has its own problem with AI. There's a
Speaker 3: much less issue than Avilia Petters. You know, in Ancient
Speaker 3: Broody and Philicity Jones had their voices tweaked, their Hungarian
Speaker 3: language tweaked with AI, and then AI was also responsible
Speaker 3: showing some of the drawings at the end of the movie.
Speaker 3: Now it made me think of Meryl Street yelling, you know,
Speaker 3: how do you need to brief an AI to do
Speaker 3: all my accents? And I think that, you know, that's
Speaker 3: an issue. I think it's a problem with having your
Speaker 3: performance enhanced by AI. But that's much less of a
Speaker 3: deal because both Adrian Brodie and Felicity Jones agreed to it.
Speaker 3: So it's not like they robbed someone else's.
Speaker 4: Right, right, right, right, right right.
Speaker 3: So that's a little bit different than if they took
Speaker 3: and got you know, they put Meryl Street in the
Speaker 3: thing and had heard Hungarian accent. You know, whatever, so
Speaker 3: that's much less. But and these things do actually cause
Speaker 3: you issues. That's why all the competitors big up water dirt.
Speaker 3: They can actually sway a voter. But I think Amelia
Speaker 3: Peda says another option because it's also for international films,
Speaker 3: So if it doesn't the Less Picture, it has a
Speaker 3: better shot any International Feature Films category. Both anster Here
Speaker 3: and Amelia Petas are both nominated for Best Picture and
Speaker 3: Best International Feature Film. So now that brings up is
Speaker 3: the brutalist that's the kind of movie that wins the
Speaker 3: Best Picture. Three and a half hours long. It's an epic.
Speaker 3: Octor likes this type of thing, so I think it
Speaker 3: has a better shot. Now Anorra, which won the Palm Door.
Speaker 3: People are saying that could sneak in the Best Picture.
Speaker 3: But I think Anora has a better shot for a
Speaker 3: screenplay or director than it does or picture. But you
Speaker 3: never know. Some of these things sneaking like coda, remember
Speaker 3: coda one boy. Yeah, that's out of nowhere, so you
Speaker 3: never know. I mean it's but like I said a
Speaker 3: week ago, if you was twist MYRL and I would
Speaker 3: have told you a video petitis and that would have
Speaker 3: been like confident. Now Conclave is the movie that I
Speaker 3: think could sneak anyone because remember Best Picture is ranked,
Speaker 3: so like a movie doesn't have to have the most
Speaker 3: number one first place wots to win. It just has
Speaker 3: to have enough boats and the tally has to add
Speaker 3: up to being you know, winning number. So Conclave could
Speaker 3: sneak in on that kind of rank the ballot. Nope,
Speaker 3: So don't dismiss Concrete just yet. But don't I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, I have to make a decision because I
Speaker 3: have to write up my predictions for these things. Ask me,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm just gonna flip a coin between you know,
Speaker 3: the Blue Wrist.
Speaker 4: And Well, the thing I tell you about The Conclave
Speaker 4: is that it just goes to show with great writing
Speaker 4: and great acting, you don't need to blow up cars
Speaker 4: and buildings to have a suspenseful movie.
Speaker 3: And it's gorgeous. I'm so nominated. I got NOMINATIOND Cinematography.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure it did. I'm stuck in here. No
Speaker 3: it did not. That's shocking, because that movie was gorgeous.
Speaker 4: It was I love Tucci. The great line in that
Speaker 4: with Tucci is when he says, to find you know
Speaker 4: this is war. You know this is war, which some listen.
Speaker 4: I grew up Catholic, man, I know all the stuff
Speaker 4: it and it's you know, it's the Vatican is a
Speaker 4: political We all know there's a lot of problems as
Speaker 4: political as any place on earth. And I thought that
Speaker 4: that line with Tucci was like this is war. I
Speaker 4: thought that that was that was just perfect. The thing
Speaker 4: about people cover your ears if you haven't seen Amelia Paris,
Speaker 4: and if you haven't seen it yet, you're probably not
Speaker 4: going to see it.
Speaker 3: I was easy than the watch.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I liked I really liked the movie
Speaker 4: until the end. I thought the end they sold out.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's a review and I stow it
Speaker 3: at your film festival and I said, who was this
Speaker 3: movie for? Why did they make this movie the way
Speaker 3: they didn't? I love musical. That was probably a little
Speaker 3: nicer to it than I should have been, because I
Speaker 3: kind of had fun with the musical numbers because they
Speaker 3: were ridiculous. But I didn't, you know, particularly think that
Speaker 3: it was all these nominations got thirteen and I definitely
Speaker 3: didn't deserve the majority of the nominations that it thought.
Speaker 3: But I sent in my review. I like movies sometimes
Speaker 3: where I can't figure out, Like, I'm just stuck, like,
Speaker 3: what the hell did I just watch? I'm that's an
Speaker 3: interest being a comtemplate, even if you don't like it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think they've been overboard with all these nominations,
Speaker 3: which happens every year, it does. I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I mean I sat down, I mean I love movies.
Speaker 4: I watched it and I go, this, this is great,
Speaker 4: and then they you know, I'm in it. I really
Speaker 4: thought it did a great job showcasing. Shoot, I just
Speaker 4: forgot her name, Yes, yes, she yeah, Zoey Selda who
Speaker 4: I'm a fan, I mean, I'm.
Speaker 3: I'm she should have been. This is category for aud
Speaker 3: of the Biggest Order because this happens all the time.
Speaker 3: He's in supporting actress. She's in the movie more than Carlos,
Speaker 3: So you know this has happened to Mela Davis was
Speaker 3: a supporting actress. She was clearly actress for for Fences
Speaker 3: has a really good shot of winning one.
Speaker 4: I hope she wins. I'm trying to see who else
Speaker 4: is here? Is it?
Speaker 3: Barbara was in it for a complete and mine I
Speaker 3: ran the Grande. So listening to Johnson, the brutalist Isabella
Speaker 3: Rossellini for Concleve. I'm glad she got nominated because her
Speaker 3: scene is the scene in that movie yeah and all
Speaker 3: you one good scene and supporting actress for five minutes.
Speaker 3: She won the out. Well.
Speaker 4: I hope so Donia wins because I mean she's been
Speaker 4: in all those superhero movies. They're all the oh God.
Speaker 3: And yeah yeah, and.
Speaker 4: You don't get to see her. I mean she I mean,
Speaker 4: and she can't. Boy, she can act in that series
Speaker 4: that she's in a series on Paramount Plus where she's
Speaker 4: great too. I mean she is a Yeah, she is
Speaker 4: a very talented actor and I would love to see
Speaker 4: her win. And I thought she was fantastic in this.
Speaker 2: But she.
Speaker 4: Wins. I totally hope she was. I was with her
Speaker 4: eyes up until the end, and I just thought they
Speaker 4: sold out at the end where it was you needed
Speaker 4: to have you got to make a decision here and those.
Speaker 3: Of you, I'm not gonna it.
Speaker 4: Was like I was with you up until the end
Speaker 4: because I like to see something different. I like to
Speaker 4: see big swings. It was a big swing. Okay, they
Speaker 4: did something different. They took a big swing. I applauded,
Speaker 4: but yeah, the ending bumping out. Okay, real quick here,
Speaker 4: So now what about the substance.
Speaker 3: What's that the substance? Did you see the substance? I
Speaker 3: did not, well see the the The chaos muppet in
Speaker 3: me wants the substance to win this pitcher. And here's
Speaker 3: the thing. I like the substance. I didn't love it.
Speaker 3: I gave it three stars out of four. It's extremely
Speaker 3: glory and the readers know I love letting guts uh,
Speaker 3: And that's kind of the chaos agent and me is
Speaker 3: hoping the substance is just pictures not but give me more.
Speaker 3: On the other hand, since the whole thing was Carlosia
Speaker 3: Gascon is blown up anymore. Is not a front runner.
Speaker 3: I'm winning just four for the substance. Well, I was
Speaker 3: going to come back earlier of the year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she and I could see that happening because I
Speaker 4: was gonna I don't I don't think is gonna win
Speaker 4: it for Wicked though I thought she.
Speaker 3: Was phenomenald the next one, and I mean, I think
Speaker 3: she's the reason. I don't understand why she's not the
Speaker 3: front runner in this category. They say that they don't
Speaker 3: like her in Hollywood. She's gotten to non Oscar nominations already.
Speaker 3: They may be waiting to give it to her for
Speaker 3: Wicked because apparently her part is even bigger in Wicked
Speaker 3: Part two. I'm just you know, going that out there,
Speaker 3: but I don't know. I think she that's not forgetting
Speaker 3: Mikey Madagon for Anora. And the funny thing is that
Speaker 3: in some days the actress to go to, you know,
Speaker 3: the young person, and I think that backfires for Mikey
Speaker 3: Madison it was fantastic and Anora because the comeback story
Speaker 3: is too with well.
Speaker 4: I think it's also good for Hollywood to have an
Speaker 4: older woman win. I mean, I think it's I mean,
Speaker 4: I'm a huge I'm a huge Demi Moore, Demi fan.
Speaker 4: I think she can.
Speaker 3: Yes, I would get it wrong.
Speaker 4: Okay, I have something I'm gonna tell. I'm going to
Speaker 4: surprise you with my pig for actor and a leading
Speaker 4: role that's coming up next here on WBZ. You're on
Speaker 4: night Side with Dan on w.
Speaker 3: News Radio.
Speaker 4: Okay, we're talking Oscar nominations, Gary and for Dan to
Speaker 4: and Idodie Henderson at the Globe was with us. Okay, Odie,
Speaker 4: here's my big actor in a leading role. And I
Speaker 4: watched this movie the other night, Sebastian stan.
Speaker 3: I figured you were going to say that. I was
Speaker 3: surprised he got nominated for this. I thought he would
Speaker 3: get nominated for a different man. He was up for two,
Speaker 3: potentially two roles. In fact, I predicted that if he
Speaker 3: got nominated before a different man. So that's the wrong movie.
Speaker 3: I knew Jeremy Strong wasn't nominated have the whole succession
Speaker 3: fight and supporting actor with Kiaren Colchin, but he was
Speaker 3: a bit of a surprise for The Apprentice. I assumed
Speaker 3: you might get nominated for a different man. So I
Speaker 3: must be honest with you, and I'm probably gonna be
Speaker 3: aspired for saying this. I didn't see The Apprentice, and
Speaker 3: it was the surprise movie at tiff and I think
Speaker 3: James old Jones had died at that day, and I
Speaker 3: wrote the I did his obituary rather than goes to
Speaker 3: The Apprentice.
Speaker 4: And I cannot fault you for that. I mean, it's
Speaker 4: it's baseball.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll tell me about his performance. I mean.
Speaker 4: I went into The Apprentice thinking, Okay, this is just
Speaker 4: going to be maybe because I wanted to see Jeremy
Speaker 4: Jeremy Strong, right, And I'm also a stand guy. I
Speaker 4: you know, I'm glad that he's getting some run. I
Speaker 4: remember Sebastian stan Is the comedian who stepped in front
Speaker 4: of the cab in the Oh God. It only lasted
Speaker 4: for a year. It was about stand up comedy. In
Speaker 4: La Melissa Leo played Mitzi.
Speaker 3: America.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well oh right, well yeah, buddy there or whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 4: the superhero movies. Whatever. I don't care about that, but yes,
Speaker 4: he isn't Captain America, but he plays the stand up
Speaker 4: comedian that is on Carson. And then because he was
Speaker 4: on Carson, he reached the Pinnacle, went to the hotel room,
Speaker 4: watched himself on Carson, took a drink of whiskey, went downstairs,
Speaker 4: and stepped in front of a cab because life could
Speaker 4: never get better. It was one episode and I was like,
Speaker 4: who's that guy? And then I saw him and I
Speaker 4: didn't even know it was the same guy in the
Speaker 4: Captain America movies. And then I started to see him
Speaker 4: a lot as of late. And when I said I
Speaker 4: got to see Sebastians stand and then Jeremy Strong, I
Speaker 4: wanted to see him. I didn't think the movie was
Speaker 4: going to be that good and I understand what it is.
Speaker 4: You know, I get it. It's not a documentary, Odie,
Speaker 4: I understand what it is. I loved it, and I
Speaker 4: thought I really did because I get it. I thought
Speaker 4: Strong was unreal. I also thought that the part was
Speaker 4: tailor made for him. But I think Sebastian said he
Speaker 4: just didn't have the size of Trump. I thought he
Speaker 4: nailed it. I thought he nailed it.
Speaker 3: He's supposed to be young Trump, right, He's supposed.
Speaker 4: To go, yeah, yeah, he's young Trump.
Speaker 3: I thought he Roy Cone, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was Roy Cone, Jeremy Strong and Roy Cone
Speaker 4: and then you know, and then you just see in
Speaker 4: the basically the young Trump is doing what he's doing now,
Speaker 4: deny deny, deny, deny, deny, lie lie live and at
Speaker 4: the beginning of the movie, Roy Cone tells him rule
Speaker 4: number one, Deny, deny, deny, right exactly.
Speaker 3: Roy Tone says that to him, that was a whole
Speaker 3: point and angels in America. He says it as well,
Speaker 3: Remember Roy Tone is.
Speaker 4: Right, yeah he dies of a yeah. So I just
Speaker 4: I really was. I'm a huge stand guy now and
Speaker 4: he's not gonna win, but you know, I could, you know,
Speaker 4: I I just loved it. I thought, I thought it
Speaker 4: was really underrated.
Speaker 3: Who do you think is gonna win Best Actor? I've
Speaker 3: got my choice, But who do you think it's.
Speaker 4: Gonna Chlamy cannot win? My god, he cannot.
Speaker 3: You're in trouble.
Speaker 4: You know what. If he wins, it's like it's a
Speaker 4: it's like running for student council president. I mean, my god,
Speaker 4: it's a popularity contest. He can't win.
Speaker 3: You He's you know, he's been nominated before. He was
Speaker 3: great in the Corner By Your Name. I'm not a
Speaker 3: huge Shalloony fan. In fact, on the opposite of ease.
Speaker 3: I like the Wonker movie, which people got madery for
Speaker 3: liking him in that, But I thought he was very
Speaker 3: good in that. I don't think he's good here. I
Speaker 3: think he's just doing karaoke. Agrian Brody would be my choice,
Speaker 3: but he's already gotten Oscar, so that kind of throws
Speaker 3: you off.
Speaker 4: Does similar they're kind of he does sign it's sometimes
Speaker 4: he puts. I think I thought he was a great
Speaker 4: pat Riley in the Lakers series, but Brody kind of
Speaker 4: plays the same guy, doesn't he Well, I mean.
Speaker 3: This is kind of similar to you before. His role
Speaker 3: in the pianist. But I think it's I think it's
Speaker 3: a good performance in the movie that I wasn't exactly
Speaker 3: crazy about him, and I liked it to a point.
Speaker 3: I gave it three stars, but we call the polite
Speaker 3: three star rating, which means it should have gotten two
Speaker 3: and a half stars. But I was feeling in terrible
Speaker 3: and gave it. So, I mean, can we talk about
Speaker 3: my biggest complaint real quick since we're talking about actuses.
Speaker 3: When I was this year, I was very undergone by
Speaker 3: the Oscar nominations. In fact, it's the first year and
Speaker 3: many many years I could think of when I don't
Speaker 3: even want to watch the show. And this is going
Speaker 3: back to someone who before was a football junkie. Before
Speaker 3: because a baseball lover, I loved y'all. This is like
Speaker 3: my super Bowl before I got into the super Bowl,
Speaker 3: and so for me to not want to watch it,
Speaker 3: And what through me is that Mary Anne Jean did
Speaker 3: not get nominated for Best Acts, and that meant that
Speaker 3: the people that were voting did not watch the movie
Speaker 3: because they loved Mike Lee. She's in hard to so
Speaker 3: Mike Lee movie. Mike Lee is always getting a screenplay nomination.
Speaker 3: The screenpaint nomination is always the wee oe nomination or
Speaker 3: here take this nomination is your consolation prize. The screenplay
Speaker 3: nominations for many years have always been that the you
Speaker 3: gets to nominated, that the only nomination they get. They
Speaker 3: love Mike Lee's been nominated five time screenplay. If they
Speaker 3: watched the movie, you would have gotten nominated. I know
Speaker 3: they didn't watch it because he did not get nominated.
Speaker 3: She has won every award there is, including the National
Speaker 3: Society Film Critics for which I'm a member. She wasn't
Speaker 3: even nominated, and it's the best performing hands down by anybody.
Speaker 3: Last year. And when she didn't get nominate and I did,
Speaker 3: I presuly she wasn't nominated, so I wasn't like a surprise.
Speaker 3: I was done with the show. Now this is a
Speaker 3: complete unknown or this nacisiting ten nominations, Aaron not getting nominated,
Speaker 3: the hell with the Austin. Of course I have to
Speaker 3: watch it. It's my job, right right, right, right right right,
Speaker 3: So this is the first year I feel like it's
Speaker 3: my job as opposed to be there.
Speaker 4: Yeah that sucks. Yeah, So who you who do you
Speaker 4: guys find to Domingo?
Speaker 3: Then oh no, no, I think to Chalam is winning,
Speaker 3: you want to win?
Speaker 4: No, I understand you said, Charlam, I think it. I listen.
Speaker 4: He seems like a nice guy. He was funny on SNL.
Speaker 4: But he should not win. So I mean, I'm going
Speaker 4: by you didn't see the Apprentice, and I do think
Speaker 4: if you get a chance, just watch it.
Speaker 3: But I have to watch it now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, but like Brody, I mean, so what
Speaker 4: do you so? Then it's Domingo or Fines for you? Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I would go with Collen Diming. I
Speaker 3: think he's given. But I mean if race Fine is one,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be upset.
Speaker 4: Right, But yeah, Charla may cannot win, but you're probably
Speaker 4: right if he can't. All right, So so we think Jeremy,
Speaker 4: Jeremy before we go Guy Pierce, Man, Guy Pierce is
Speaker 4: the man. I mean, did he did he win from Amento?
Speaker 4: He went from Amento? Didn't he?
Speaker 3: No, he was never nominated for anything.
Speaker 4: He wasn't nominated from Memento.
Speaker 3: Or l A Confidential. Enough.
Speaker 4: Oh that's a crime crime were.
Speaker 3: Doing both cases of La Confidential and momental. But this
Speaker 3: is his first nomination. We already know who's winning. Supporting
Speaker 3: acting it's gonna be Kerry Koch and he's gonna eat
Speaker 3: Jerry Strong on.
Speaker 4: The kay stop stop stop stop. I saw that movie.
Speaker 4: I don't get. I mean, I understand overrated.
Speaker 3: The number ten movie of the year was another ten movie.
Speaker 3: It was my number ten movie of the.
Speaker 4: Year, number ten movies.
Speaker 3: He should be in the lead actor. He's the lead,
Speaker 3: he's the co lead. It's only two people in the movie.
Speaker 4: Really, but you know, you gotta have a resolution at
Speaker 4: the end. He starts in the airport, he ends in
Speaker 4: the airport.
Speaker 3: Well, that's that's the resolution. And say to MRV had
Speaker 3: this and Horror Truth and pretty much the exactly the
Speaker 3: same way. So if you didn't like this one, you're
Speaker 3: gonna hate Horror Truth. But uh, I thought he was fantastic,
Speaker 3: and I do it is for him in for in
Speaker 3: the critical War. I think he deserves to win. I
Speaker 3: would rather have him win than Edward Norton.
Speaker 4: Oh no, I agree with that. I totally agree with that.
Speaker 4: I'm a guy, Pierce guy. I think I think Pierce
Speaker 4: is a guy that could have been a leading man
Speaker 4: and he's just made some brave choices and I would
Speaker 4: like to see Pierce win it. But Karen Kalcok is
Speaker 4: probably gonna win it because of the succession thing. And
Speaker 4: he was very good in the movie. He was very
Speaker 4: good in the movie. I didn't like the movie as
Speaker 4: much as I thought I was gonna like it.
Speaker 3: But funny guy Pierce, he's again You're right, he's a
Speaker 3: great actor and if you want it wouldn't upset me.
Speaker 3: They're very few choices this year that would irritate the
Speaker 3: hell out of you if they want. Timoy Shall one
Speaker 3: of them. But you know, yeah, I thought of Edward Norton,
Speaker 3: who apparently got his teeth done. You a method acting.
Speaker 3: He got a to look like, let me ask you,
Speaker 3: do you know what look like?
Speaker 4: No, But Edward Norton have kind of soured on him
Speaker 4: after seeing some I've just heard some stuff. I mean,
Speaker 4: I don't know, like I I thought that obviously when
Speaker 4: he came on the scene with Richard gear.
Speaker 3: Which a movie I hated him, and I hate that
Speaker 3: performance because in that movie he got nominated it in.
Speaker 4: But see I liked it. But and I thought, Okay,
Speaker 4: this guy's got it. But I've just heard some things
Speaker 4: about just the the arrogance of it, and I just
Speaker 4: believe that you know, actors should be if you're acting,
Speaker 4: if you're getting paid to act, you should be grateful. Okay,
Speaker 4: because you should be grateful, you know.
Speaker 3: But you know a lot of actors this is their stocking,
Speaker 3: you know, and trade of being difficult. I'll use a
Speaker 3: nice word on the radio.
Speaker 4: But but but not all of them all like that
Speaker 4: some great actor. I mean, I'm just I think that
Speaker 4: that isn't the minority.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I have to ask you your love the music?
Speaker 3: What about own John here? You know Owen John's nominated
Speaker 3: for a song from his documentary. Have you seen that documentary? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Document know, and I need to that's on the list.
Speaker 4: I need to do that. Hang, I want to talk
Speaker 4: about that. I got to take a quick break here,
Speaker 4: and then we're gonna come right back and finish up
Speaker 4: with we'll talk about Elton John on w b Z.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray Live from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 4: Ody Anderson, Boston Globe Wethers finishing out the hour. What
Speaker 4: about the Elton John song? Odie, Sorry I had to
Speaker 4: cut you off.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I was asking me to seen the movie.
Speaker 3: He's up for original song this category. There's two from
Speaker 3: Amelia Petters. And then there's Diane Warren, her sixteenth Auscar
Speaker 3: nomination for The Journey, which is the first movie first song,
Speaker 3: a first ASCAR nomination for a Tyler Perry movie, the
Speaker 3: sixth Triple Eight. He wrote the song for it, So
Speaker 3: this is the sixteenth nomination. She's actually beaten Randy Newman
Speaker 3: because he's won twice in the in terms of being
Speaker 3: nominated winning an Oscar. Now she has an honorary Oscar.
Speaker 3: They gave it to her, but it'd be funny if
Speaker 3: she actually wanted to winning the Oscar out right after
Speaker 3: sixteen tries.
Speaker 4: Man, I saw on her She's she's crazy. I mean
Speaker 4: in a good way.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's crazy in a funn way. You should
Speaker 3: see that documentary when you're watching. After you watch hel
Speaker 3: On john documentary, watch her documentary. Diane Warren relentless basically
Speaker 3: has more f words and that than scarf. Every other
Speaker 3: word in her mouth was theory. I'm like I do.
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, some more, Diane Warrant.
Speaker 4: Oh, I saw like clips of it and I can't
Speaker 4: remember where I saw it, but I go, holy cow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, she got a mouth from her.
Speaker 4: But the way she works I mean, she's just fearless.
Speaker 3: I think it's fascinating how she works because I know
Speaker 3: they show her how. I love process in movies. I
Speaker 3: always tell people my reviews that stuff you might find boring,
Speaker 3: like how things get done.
Speaker 4: I love that stuff.
Speaker 3: She goes to some of her how she writes some
Speaker 3: of the songs. She says, don't ask me that my process.
Speaker 3: Don't ever ask me again. But you see her doing
Speaker 3: a little bit about it, you know, you see Al
Speaker 3: John do it. And that Al John document is a
Speaker 3: really fascinating little section about how he was dealing with
Speaker 3: a song. That's really fascinating to watch. So so I
Speaker 3: had complaining. Can I just mention the things that I'm
Speaker 3: actually happy about that got nominated films?
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, so.
Speaker 3: The Animated Future category. I'm glad that Flow, which is
Speaker 3: my number four movie of the year, and The Wild Robot,
Speaker 3: which is my number sixth movie, got nominated for Animated
Speaker 3: Feature along with Wallace and Dramat. I'm a huge Wallace
Speaker 3: and Gramat fan. And Flow also got nominated for International Features.
Speaker 3: So it's up with two oscars. I hope it wins
Speaker 3: both of them. Uh. We score for The Wild Robot
Speaker 3: and for Conclave beautiful music. Both got nominated for the Oscar.
Speaker 3: That was that was happy about that. Uh, who else
Speaker 3: but Isabella Russellingia I mentioned that a stategy for being nominated.
Speaker 3: I figured she could get in because this is a
Speaker 3: perfect kind of supporting role, you know. But she has
Speaker 3: the one big scene and that's great. Uh, those are
Speaker 3: things I'm happy, But this Conclave is being nominated for
Speaker 3: production design not for cinematogy is kind of ridiculous. You
Speaker 3: think about it. They look gorgeous, but they're in one rooms.
Speaker 4: Well, the thought crossed my mind. I mean it was
Speaker 4: well decorated. Listen, I'm glad. I'm glad you got some
Speaker 4: happiness out of this process.
Speaker 3: Yes, every year I do, but this year was. I
Speaker 3: guess that's more miserable. And I'm hoping for your sake
Speaker 3: that similarly show how many ruts And I'll think about
Speaker 3: you on Austin night.
Speaker 4: He better not win, I'm telling you right now, I
Speaker 4: don't know what I'll do, but he better. I really
Speaker 4: know that that can't happen.
Speaker 3: We'll have a post Oscar discussion where you can vent
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Odie, thanks for coming on. We look forward to
Speaker 4: seeing your predictions in the Globe.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me on again.
Speaker 4: This is fun, okay anytime, buddy, all right, ode hear
Speaker 4: her say. Boston Globe does a great job covering movies,
Speaker 4: which I love to talk about. As you guys know,
Speaker 4: all right, the freak from the West Coast, My moderate
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Speaker 4: WBC's Night Side