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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back. This is Steve Roverta your Dave Silver. I

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<v Speaker 1>missed the kids. We can handle.

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<v Speaker 2>All the interns are off. Yes, another good time spring break.

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<v Speaker 2>Henry will be back Friday. So that's good. They're in

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<v Speaker 2>Cabo or San Francisco or hey. But they have exciting

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<v Speaker 2>lives as being college to don't you remember those days?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Need to die. I think it went to feede.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, maybe went to Disneyland or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for as a twenty one year old, I don't know. Maybe, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we did. Actually, I just remember enjoying not

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<v Speaker 2>going to school.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh. Cool. Okay, so if you guys want to call,

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<v Speaker 1>we have about fifteen minutes before we go to the

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<v Speaker 1>next guest. Who is going to be an author? Right,

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<v Speaker 1>give it the name again?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Keith O'Brien, who wrote a book about Pete Rose

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<v Speaker 3>called Charlie Hustle. Yeah, so yeah, exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, The Rise and Fall of Pete Rose in

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<v Speaker 2>the Last Glory Days of Baseball A great title.

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<v Speaker 1>Does Did you have you read it? Maybe the four

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<v Speaker 1>I've read.

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<v Speaker 3>I've read a lot of it, but not all.

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<v Speaker 2>Did did he know him beforehand or did he just

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<v Speaker 2>I think he just kind of picked as a subject.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to find out more on how the book originated.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, tons of people coming to town for the

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<v Speaker 2>for the book festival. And he's one of the sports authors.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got a number of good ones, famous ones. Jack

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<v Speaker 2>McCallum wrote for Sports Illustrated for years and years.

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<v Speaker 3>He's coming in.

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<v Speaker 2>And Joe Posnanski, who's a great baseball football writer, he's

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<v Speaker 2>coming in. Just in the sports scene. And look at

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<v Speaker 2>Tucson Festival books dot org. You can see the whole lineup,

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<v Speaker 2>the whole grid, and see where your favorite author might be.

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<v Speaker 1>Did we have an author with you Monday? Were you

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<v Speaker 1>here Monday?

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<v Speaker 3>We had Marin Fader?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, she's she's with the Ringer, Yeah, And she spoke

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<v Speaker 2>about the l A book fair, right is that Los

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<v Speaker 2>Angeles book Fair?

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<v Speaker 1>And then this one do you think that? And she said,

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<v Speaker 1>this one's big because it's big, right, So it's a

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<v Speaker 1>big one. Do you think because of the weather up here?

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<v Speaker 1>They bring? Why is it so big?

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<v Speaker 4>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>They do a great job of hospitality to begin with.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a number of events kind of around just the weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>dinners and party and they entertain people and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just just when they come in.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they're treated well. They stay at nice hotels.

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<v Speaker 2>The u of A is you know, a beautiful location,

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<v Speaker 2>the weather, you know, fingers crossed will be good again,

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<v Speaker 2>and the numbers of people I mean, I think I

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<v Speaker 2>think a combination of snowbirds being in town and the

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<v Speaker 2>U of A kind of being off, it just brings

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<v Speaker 2>people to campus.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a nice weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Generally it used to always be up against the Pac

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<v Speaker 2>twelve tournament or some tournament, and this year I guess

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<v Speaker 2>it could be again. But we're talking still over one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand people will be on. Oh. I mean, there's food,

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<v Speaker 2>there's music, things for all ages. Kids, there's a science

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<v Speaker 2>city they call it, you know, stuff for kids and

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<v Speaker 2>stuff for grown ups. And you know marquee authors that

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<v Speaker 2>people have read from the news, business, from you, mysteries, science,

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<v Speaker 2>any subject you can think of.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, I'll be out there one of those two

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<v Speaker 1>days trying to see. IM trying to find a publisher.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll see what I get if I get luck. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need an agent a plenty to publisher. You

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<v Speaker 1>got a book in mind? Yeah, I have two, actually

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<v Speaker 1>been trying to for a while.

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<v Speaker 3>What's that like?

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<v Speaker 2>As somebody that I'm sure a lot of people who

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<v Speaker 2>are going to be there have similar stories to you,

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<v Speaker 2>and and they like and you have books out too, obviously, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>what is that like?

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<v Speaker 3>Does it take?

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<v Speaker 1>It takes a while.

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<v Speaker 2>You just got to convince somebody that you're worthy of

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<v Speaker 2>a book, right and and your subject matter is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be worthwhile to be read. And uh, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have a have a manuscript kind of in your head

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<v Speaker 2>or to tell them what you're going to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been lucky. I've been lucky. And you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>takes and then then the work starts. Then the work starts,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to put it together. It takes about six

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<v Speaker 1>seven eight months. That's why when you talk to you O'Brien, book,

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<v Speaker 1>Uh we had this story. When did he passed? Like

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<v Speaker 1>September October Pete Pete, Yeah, so had to be he

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<v Speaker 1>he had started it then right away.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a heck of a quick I think it's been

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<v Speaker 3>out before.

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<v Speaker 2>That was before before that, so it was that does

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<v Speaker 2>not include his death, I don't know for sure. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's let's see where how he's handled that. Because obviously

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<v Speaker 2>you can add to the end of the story.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right, because he can have neither another book, which,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, now he's going to be in the Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Fame.

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<v Speaker 3>I would like to say, maybe it's not the end

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<v Speaker 3>of the story.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you know, there's a for afterward that comes maybe

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<v Speaker 2>in the paperback edition or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Well, it's like me when I read the hundred

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<v Speaker 1>things every Arizona fans need to know and do before

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<v Speaker 1>the death and everything was happening after that, he says, well, Steve,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to add another fifteen exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, that's your next book on Dred And now

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<v Speaker 3>we got one hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>And fifty things. Right. Let me tell you, there's been

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff that's come out since then. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the scandal was shown and that book was before set. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was. Uh, I want to see the best book

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<v Speaker 1>that I thought was the Box Book. Right. That's when

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Barely came on the scene in two thousand and

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<v Speaker 1>nine ten, right, and then the other one's twenty fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>right as they were getting to be the only reason

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<v Speaker 1>I got that idea, not that idea, I got the

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<v Speaker 1>proposal was they were undefeated in mid February late February

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<v Speaker 1>and then actually got hurt so the book was already

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<v Speaker 1>starting to be if they win the title, I was

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<v Speaker 1>already ready to write that book. So when they lost

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<v Speaker 1>and they started to lose a little bit more, we

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<v Speaker 1>changed gears and then it turned into the hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>one things. Yeah, so it's always kind of transitional, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I mean it's you've you're writing about the

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<v Speaker 2>most popular sports in this area and again with alumni everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you can market that all over the country,

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<v Speaker 2>I suppose.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I have a little It's funny because I

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<v Speaker 1>had Toldard on two weeks ago, I guess what it was?

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<v Speaker 1>Were you with me? You know?

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<v Speaker 5>You went?

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<v Speaker 1>So he was on and every time I call him

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to Steve, you write another book, quite, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's but it sells, I mean, and it's totally

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<v Speaker 1>two different more than two obviously a lot of different

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<v Speaker 1>things go into the book. Yeah, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we can talk about it, maybe off offline, but

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I think you could you could make a

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<v Speaker 2>mark some where on the West coast if you can

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<v Speaker 2>get one of the players to do a sit down

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<v Speaker 2>with you at some bookstore and say I've got you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Tolbert with me. Oh yea, yeah, you go there

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, next thing, you know, Steve Kurr comes

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<v Speaker 2>over too, because you're in.

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<v Speaker 1>And like I told you before, which when Show and

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<v Speaker 1>Loot was around, we'd have these signings and he would

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<v Speaker 1>come with me and they didn't want to talk to me.

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<v Speaker 1>They wanted to talk to him and get a hor

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<v Speaker 1>signature on the book. So you know it was I

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<v Speaker 1>had had it made when he was around. Let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of if we're in taking it calls five to

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<v Speaker 1>two oh four, one, six, seventy four, forty, we can

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<v Speaker 1>just take a few calls before tonight's came. So what

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<v Speaker 1>do you think Arizona is the favorite by three and

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<v Speaker 1>a half?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, their favorite.

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<v Speaker 2>I was kind of surprised, but you know, eighty three

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<v Speaker 2>seventy six, just a couple of days ago, they lost

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<v Speaker 2>and they couldn't contain the big guy. So if Dickinson

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<v Speaker 2>goes off, who knows how this game may go? And

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<v Speaker 2>you know the whole you know, Caleb Love, what can

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<v Speaker 2>we expect? You know, they got to had a big

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<v Speaker 2>game from Trey Townsend kind of out of the blue

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<v Speaker 2>the other day.

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<v Speaker 1>So wasn't that a wash? If you get something from him,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't get something from somewhere else. That's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a true.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, like the THEYSAR did nothing right then in that game.

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<v Speaker 1>So if he just if he just defends Dickinson, well

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<v Speaker 1>that might be enough.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, wasn't some of the postgame talk that Arizona

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<v Speaker 2>never double teamed him and maybe that would be the strategy.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they weren't going to show that that day because

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<v Speaker 2>that was going to be their strategy. Perhaps the next

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<v Speaker 2>time they played, which turns out to be tonight. So

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, let's let's watch and they all knew

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<v Speaker 2>that this is a good possibility of it happening. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the second second game in a week or what is

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<v Speaker 2>the week? The five days, five days, five days, so

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see. I do like their chances, even though it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be close to Kansas City. It's I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think it's a home court advantage, even though it's only fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>Miles away or whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'll give you plenty of examples that Arizona had

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<v Speaker 1>a home court advantage in terms of fans, not the court. Historically, Anaheia,

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<v Speaker 1>they've gone to places and they've had overwhelming Yeah, crowds

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<v Speaker 1>there and it meant nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I mean it's gonna be totally it's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be like ninety to tencent, no question.

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<v Speaker 3>For Kansas.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's really it's like forty miles away. Kansas City,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure has a zillion alums, you know, and how

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<v Speaker 2>often did they get to see them. They probably have

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<v Speaker 2>a hard time getting into fag Allen. No, you're right

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<v Speaker 2>now they have a chance to go see them, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>on a Thursday in the middle of the winter.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, And I'm sure that a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>from Tucson didn't go, But there's still alums in the

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<v Speaker 1>Midwest in that area that want to see Arizona. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't get to see them live, right all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>That's yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Like as I was saying before, when they would play

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<v Speaker 2>at games, and you know, especially on the East Coast

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<v Speaker 2>and even in the loot years when they'd go play

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<v Speaker 2>Georgetown or villanover Saint John's or something like that, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Arizona had a pretty good turnout because they've

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<v Speaker 2>got a pretty good contingent on the East coast, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well again it was it was them against Duke today,

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, yeah, go hope David does well there because

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<v Speaker 2>It was crazy again with all the realignment that we've

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<v Speaker 3>And then like in the women's game, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>The Big Ten championship and they have two better teams

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<v Speaker 1>than that, the two best teams, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Come, you know, one year removed from a conference that

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<v Speaker 1>Have you followed because Arizona's team is not that great

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<v Speaker 1>and didn't generate headlines? Did you follow the women's sports

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<v Speaker 1>basketball probably not probably not.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's a few pretty good players, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>but the good the women from Connecticut Beckers. Then you

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<v Speaker 1>have Juju at USC and then you have I forget

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<v Speaker 1>her name at UCLA, the six with seven. She's very

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<v Speaker 1>charm her name very good, very good. And then the

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<v Speaker 1>the uh, the player at Notre Dame maybe player of

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<v Speaker 1>the year, and I forget her name too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and again those names will kind of come to

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<v Speaker 2>They're on TV all the time, and we're what, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the game starts soon and they always they usually play

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<v Speaker 2>games like Monday and Tuesday after the men's games that weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>so they're kind of, you know, kind of away from

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<v Speaker 1>We have a few minutes, maybe two or three minutes

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<v Speaker 1>before we go to our break real quick. But you

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this off air with me coming in about Ada. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked about her every now at the cursery level,

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<v Speaker 1>just at the you know, surface level. But we heard

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<v Speaker 1>news yesterday. I think it was us right that Auburn.

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<v Speaker 1>Auburn is looking at her to possibly take her away

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<v Speaker 1>from Arizona and go coach there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was some of the some of the rumors

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<v Speaker 2>and some of the stories, and you know, who knows

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<v Speaker 2>where where those are coming from necessarily, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think her contract is up after next year, and

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<v Speaker 2>who again, there was some reporting about where that may stand,

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<v Speaker 2>which could be reason for her to think about going

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere else, which would be sad for the U of A.

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<v Speaker 2>She's you know, she's the best player in school history,

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<v Speaker 2>and she was able to get them, you know, very

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<v Speaker 2>close to a championship. But the last couple of years

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<v Speaker 2>have been tough. It's been hard to watch sometimes and

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<v Speaker 2>again well and a lot of it's just been hard

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<v Speaker 2>to watch off the court with them losing players to

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<v Speaker 2>injury or transfers. Yeah, and the portal has not been

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<v Speaker 2>very kind to them, if.

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<v Speaker 1>You, if you feel free, go to see the Azy

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<v Speaker 1>Desert Swarm story on her. Kim Dust did a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good job. I thought she did a fantastic job, in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe highlighting that that in the story not from her,

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<v Speaker 1>but from somewhere else and maybe out of other places

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<v Speaker 1>that she wants to go where she's appreciated. That would

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<v Speaker 1>mean something here, right, Yeah, that you're not here? Uh

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<v Speaker 1>that was there? Nil money. She's talked openly here on

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<v Speaker 1>this show that she needs more. We know that the

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<v Speaker 1>players are going to be getting more money with the

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<v Speaker 1>shared expenses, but the women's teams is not going to

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<v Speaker 1>get a whole big percentage three percent. To me, that

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<v Speaker 1>knocked me over, to tell you the truth, that's all

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting. That's all they're getting. I'm thinking, what because

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<v Speaker 1>football and basketball getting the majority, right, and you think,

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<v Speaker 1>holy moly, I thought that'd have some title line implication. Honestly, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's the world we live in. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think we need to kind of just

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<v Speaker 2>see how it plays out, especially with these with the

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<v Speaker 2>new money coming. You know how that's going to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>affect these programs and the players they get. It's it's

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<v Speaker 2>a whole new ball game, it really is. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how these coaches, you know, sleep at night wondering, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>what's my roster going to look like? You know in

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<v Speaker 2>two months or two weeks if players start leaving after

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<v Speaker 2>the end of basketball season and jumping and Dave.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about this at the beginning. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>paid a ton of money for them, not necessarily. In basketball,

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<v Speaker 2>And Umar Bollo gets that big money goes to Indiana

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<v Speaker 2>steve mentioned Keith O'Brien, author of four books, including Charlie Hussele,

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<v Speaker 2>The Rise and Fall of Pete Rose in the Last

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<v Speaker 2>staff writer with the Boston Globe. And Keith, welcome to

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<v Speaker 2>I on the Ball and we're looking forward to seeing

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<v Speaker 2>you here next. I guess tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 14>Basically, I can't wait to get to the desert. Guys,

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<v Speaker 14>thanks for having sure.

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<v Speaker 1>So when did you come up with the idea to

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<v Speaker 1>write the book, because it's been out a while, right, The.

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<v Speaker 14>Book came out a year ago and just came out

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<v Speaker 14>in paperback this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice. You know.

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<v Speaker 14>I I'm from Cincinnati, originally born and raised.

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<v Speaker 15>I'm too young to remember the Big Red Machine years.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 15>I'm alive, but I don't remember them.

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<v Speaker 14>And but I grew up with Pete Rose and that

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<v Speaker 14>story in the eighties and I'm so it's really the

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<v Speaker 14>wallpaper of my life, and and and so this idea

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<v Speaker 14>had really always been on my on my list of

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<v Speaker 14>things I wanted to write about, and I began to

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<v Speaker 14>dig into it into in the summer of twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me ask you. Can I ask you your age?

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<v Speaker 15>As sure I was born. I was born in seventy.

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<v Speaker 1>Three, oh seventy three, because I went sixty four. I

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<v Speaker 1>grew up in Santa Fe, New Mexico, and Charlie Hustle.

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<v Speaker 1>Mister Pete Rose was my one of my idol idols,

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<v Speaker 1>if not the idol with the big red machine in

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<v Speaker 1>the mids seventies. My years of you know, inspiration got

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<v Speaker 1>to be inspired by right, Joe Morgan, Pete Rose, Johnny Bench,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Geronimo, all those guys, and so to me,

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<v Speaker 1>you were kind of living my fantasy here obviously, and

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<v Speaker 1>then as you get older and then I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was eighty nine, things kind of fall apart from my

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<v Speaker 1>vision of this guy. So how was it for you?

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<v Speaker 14>Well, I mean, before I wrote the book, I sort

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<v Speaker 14>of felt that I had, over the years, had felt

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<v Speaker 14>every single emotion you could have about p Rose.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 14>I felt pride, I felt sadness, I felt confusion and

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<v Speaker 14>I think I felt all those things over the years,

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<v Speaker 14>and you know, with the book, you know, I really

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<v Speaker 14>wanted to set my personal feelings aside.

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<v Speaker 15>I think if you go back and you look.

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<v Speaker 14>At what had been written about p Rose, everything was

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<v Speaker 14>always shaded by the writer's own opinion. You could tell

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<v Speaker 14>just by the words they were using that they were

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<v Speaker 14>there to make it case for Pete Rose, or they

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<v Speaker 14>were there to tear him down. And and what I

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<v Speaker 14>wanted to do was look at his story through the

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<v Speaker 14>prism of history, tell that story with granular reporting, unprecedented

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<v Speaker 14>reporting and interviews, including twenty seven hours of interviews with

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<v Speaker 14>Pete Rose himself, and and you know, write that story

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<v Speaker 14>and let people come to their own conclusions. And you know,

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<v Speaker 14>when the book came out, of course I had no

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<v Speaker 14>idea that.

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<v Speaker 13>You know, it was.

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<v Speaker 14>That Pete would be gone within months. And so in

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<v Speaker 14>some ways it takes on greater significance.

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<v Speaker 15>Significance.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, what did you learn when you met him that

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you you know, again you're growing up and you're

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you're aware of him, but you got a

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<v Speaker 2>chance to talk to him for all that time. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>what are the some of the things that surprised you about.

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<v Speaker 3>Him, you know, Pete.

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<v Speaker 14>People often ask me, they say, you know, did Pete

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<v Speaker 14>try to charm you, you know, while I was with him?

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<v Speaker 14>And my answer to that question is is he didn't

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<v Speaker 14>try to charm me.

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<v Speaker 15>He was just charming.

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<v Speaker 14>And I think, you know, getting access to him and

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<v Speaker 14>being able to see that, you know, spending one on

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<v Speaker 14>one time with him for hours, you know, it helped

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<v Speaker 14>me understand why the press in the nineteen sixties, seventies

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<v Speaker 14>and eighties would defend him and in fact, at times

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<v Speaker 14>not even report the things that they need to be

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<v Speaker 14>true about his gambling. It also helped me understand why

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<v Speaker 14>many young people would, young men in particular, would be

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<v Speaker 14>sort of drawn into his inner circle, and these young

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<v Speaker 14>men would do Pete's bidding, you know, ultimately placing his

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<v Speaker 14>bets with bookies, placing his bets on baseball. I don't

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<v Speaker 14>think I would have understood, you know, those things if I,

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<v Speaker 14>if I hadn't felt a small fraction of what they

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<v Speaker 14>had felt, you know, by by spending time with him.

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<v Speaker 14>I think that was crucial to me and into understanding

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<v Speaker 14>this story. I think the other thing that spending time

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<v Speaker 14>with him helped me understand was really the core of

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<v Speaker 14>the man, and I really began to realize that. You know,

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<v Speaker 14>Pete Rose succeeds as a player and becomes an iconic

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<v Speaker 14>player and fails as a man for the very same reasons.

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<v Speaker 14>You know, he he succeeds as this player that we

557
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<v Speaker 14>love because he will not bend. He he will.

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<v Speaker 15>Not be weak.

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<v Speaker 14>He believes in every scenario that he is going to prevail,

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<v Speaker 14>that he is going to come out on top. And

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<v Speaker 14>and you know, as he told me once, you know,

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<v Speaker 14>I'm an eternal optimist, and and and what better quality

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<v Speaker 14>to have as a hitter. But those same qualities, his

564
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<v Speaker 14>refusal to ben his refusal to be seen as weak,

565
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<v Speaker 14>and his during belief that he would prevail, well, those

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<v Speaker 14>are the same things that would set him up for

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<v Speaker 14>his ultimate failure and his inability to reckon honestly, with

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<v Speaker 14>the wreckage he caused to himself, to others, to Major

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<v Speaker 14>League Baseball, and and that is ultimately why he lost everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Well put, yeah, well put, because it's all true. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>When was the last time you were able to see

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<v Speaker 1>him before he passed? Before he passed him? Did he

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<v Speaker 1>help you with some of the sales? Early? Great question?

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<v Speaker 14>So you know I had this incredible access to Pete,

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<v Speaker 14>and then.

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<v Speaker 15>One day in.

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<v Speaker 14>The late winter of twenty twenty one, early twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 14>Pete just stopped calling me back and the line went dead. Wow,

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<v Speaker 14>And so no, no, he didn't help me sell any.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you figure out why was that? Well, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why.

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<v Speaker 14>To be totally honest with you, he and I never

583
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<v Speaker 14>had a crossword at all.

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<v Speaker 15>I was pushing him.

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<v Speaker 14>I was asking at times difficult questions, you know. I

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<v Speaker 14>wanted to tell the full story here, and so yeah,

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<v Speaker 14>we spent hours talking about amazing baseball moments, those glory

588
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<v Speaker 14>days of baseball, the seventy five World Series, the nineteen

589
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<v Speaker 14>seventy All Star Game, the hit streak in forty four,

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<v Speaker 14>the forty four game HISTORYK and seventy eight, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 14>We talked about all that, but we talked about the

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<v Speaker 14>gambling too, and his lies about it and his other

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<v Speaker 14>mistakes off the field. And so I think that was

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<v Speaker 14>hard for him. But ultimately, I think the real reason

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<v Speaker 14>why I lost access to him, uh is a more

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<v Speaker 14>basic one, and that is simply I was not paying him,

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<v Speaker 14>you know. And and I think I think he was

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<v Speaker 14>advised to stop talking to me as a result.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a chance to see him, you know, in

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<v Speaker 2>his later years in Las Vegas, and we mentioned not

601
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<v Speaker 2>paying him. I mean, one of the books about him

602
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<v Speaker 2>came out. I can't remember which one, but if you

603
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<v Speaker 2>wanted to get an autograph, you had to buy the book,

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<v Speaker 2>or if you wanted to.

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<v Speaker 3>Get anything, you had to you had to buy something

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<v Speaker 3>with Pete.

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<v Speaker 2>And this was you know, some casino in Vegas, and

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<v Speaker 2>he was just you know, he was there and he

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<v Speaker 2>was attracting attention. Let me tell you one other thing,

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<v Speaker 2>speaking of a big red machine, there's a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>guys here in Tucson. I didn't You may know this,

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<v Speaker 2>but Paul Moscow the picture and Pat Darcy, who gave

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<v Speaker 2>up the Carlton Fist home run, are two Sonans.

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<v Speaker 3>So they're here. In fact, they went to the same

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<v Speaker 3>high school out here.

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<v Speaker 2>So we've always kind of had that in our back

617
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<v Speaker 2>pocket when we were talking about that.

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<v Speaker 3>That team and Pete rose in that era of baseball.

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<v Speaker 3>So there, he.

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<v Speaker 15>Didn't know that. I did not know that.

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<v Speaker 14>I know, I think Terry Francona keeps a home there,

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<v Speaker 14>but I did not know about, uh, about those other guys.

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<v Speaker 1>So is this you're just quoting Pete on this book,

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<v Speaker 1>or are you talking to other people around him who

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<v Speaker 1>were close to him.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 14>I did two hundred hours of interviews with others, spoke

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<v Speaker 14>to everyone who crossed paths with him in a meaningful way. Uh,

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<v Speaker 14>interviews with three different men who placed his bets on baseball,

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<v Speaker 14>his ex wives, ex lovers, family members, people who were

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<v Speaker 14>in his dugout, people who were in the opposing dugout,

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<v Speaker 14>people who had never spoken before about about this story.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh.

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<v Speaker 14>And not only that, you know, I utilized federal court records,

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<v Speaker 14>thousands and thousands of pages of federal court records that

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<v Speaker 14>had never been explored before. That should owed how Pete

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<v Speaker 14>Rose's world unraveled from the inside, not in nineteen eighty

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<v Speaker 14>nine when it all you know, when it all goes public,

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<v Speaker 14>but really starting in nineteen eighty six, it's a three

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<v Speaker 14>year unraveling. And that was primarily told through these court

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<v Speaker 14>records that no one had ever bothered to look at before.

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<v Speaker 1>So if I could real quick, So you're you're thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about doing this book, did you? You're what was the premise?

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<v Speaker 1>Like you said, Okay, I'm going to talk to him

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<v Speaker 1>first to see if I can or if he'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>to me at all, or you said I don't need

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<v Speaker 1>his help. What were you thinking, because you do need

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<v Speaker 1>his help kind of not kind of you do.

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<v Speaker 14>So you know, I was going to do it whether

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<v Speaker 14>I got him or not. And frankly, I didn't think

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<v Speaker 14>I was going to get to him. Pete had never

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<v Speaker 14>spoken to an author for a book unless he was

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<v Speaker 14>getting paid, in fact, unless he was unless he had

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<v Speaker 14>editorial control, and he was not going to have either here,

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<v Speaker 14>and so I didn't think I would get access to him.

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<v Speaker 14>And I thought, well, I'll just have to, you know,

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<v Speaker 14>report this from every other angle in order to get

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<v Speaker 14>to the nut of it. And and that's what I

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<v Speaker 14>was doing when I did ultimately get that access.

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<v Speaker 15>And I and.

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<v Speaker 14>I do think that, you know, my Cincinnati roots did help,

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<v Speaker 14>you know, uh, you know, thinking back to some of

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<v Speaker 14>our earliest interviews, Pete would be talking to me about

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<v Speaker 14>growing up on the west side of Cincinnati, and he

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<v Speaker 14>would say things like, well, you know where that church

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<v Speaker 14>is or you know where that field is, you know,

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<v Speaker 14>because I was from there too, And I do think

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<v Speaker 14>that created a familiarity for the both of us that

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<v Speaker 14>that he liked.

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<v Speaker 2>God, it's amazing, No I guess as we wrap things up,

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<v Speaker 2>the Hall of Fame question has been lingering here for

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<v Speaker 2>all these years. And then Trump makes a comment the

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<v Speaker 2>other day about how he should be pardoned. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>quite sure if that was the right word he used,

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<v Speaker 2>or what do you think I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Is something going to happen with that story.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, the pardon in the Hall of Fame or separate exactly.

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<v Speaker 14>He ultimately does plead guilty to federal charges for file

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<v Speaker 14>filing false tax returns. He admits to that in the

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<v Speaker 14>late nineteen eighties early nineteen nineties. He serves time for that.

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<v Speaker 14>You know, President Tump Trump could parton him for those

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<v Speaker 14>crimes posthumously. That would have no effect on his Hall

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<v Speaker 14>of Fame status. You know, he would have to be

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<v Speaker 14>reinstated by Major League Baseball in order to appear on

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<v Speaker 14>the ballot. That has not happened for thirty six years.

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<v Speaker 14>I don't know if it will happen or not. My

687
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<v Speaker 14>personal feeling, though, is that we've just frankly lost perspective

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<v Speaker 14>about the Hall of Fame. I think we like to

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<v Speaker 14>put players on pedestals, we like to ascribe moral value

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<v Speaker 14>to them, and the truth is we don't really know

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<v Speaker 14>the people that we cheer for we don't, right, And

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<v Speaker 14>so my personal feeling on this is that we should

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<v Speaker 14>vote players in or not based on what they did

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<v Speaker 14>on the field between the lines. It is truly the

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<v Speaker 14>only thing we know for sure. We simply don't know

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<v Speaker 14>what we don't know about these players, and if what

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<v Speaker 14>they did off the field is so wrong, then I

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<v Speaker 14>say let's put it on the plaque at Cooperstown right

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<v Speaker 14>there in bronze for perpetuity, right next to their accomplishments.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right. That's why I often say, you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to know your heroes, don't want to meet your heroes. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you finally, just the last question for me,

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<v Speaker 1>just out of curiosity. When you did this twenty seven

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<v Speaker 1>hours of meeting with him, did you ever go to

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<v Speaker 1>dinner or lunch with him? I did, Okay, So my

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<v Speaker 1>question would be who picked up the bill? I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a legit question because if you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you know exactly what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 14>So, uh, you know, we would often actually meet at

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<v Speaker 14>at his favorite diner in Las Vegas, the place where

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<v Speaker 14>he always went to, the place where he was well known.

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<v Speaker 14>He would sit down they would bring his orange juice.

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<v Speaker 14>They knew exactly what he wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, at the end.

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<v Speaker 14>Of those meals, I would always reach for the check

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<v Speaker 14>and Pete Rose would say, no, no, no, He's like, no,

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<v Speaker 14>one's gonna accuse me of being a short.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's why I asked, because at least he could

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<v Speaker 1>have done that. And you know, you you your share,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, no, fantastic, Thanks so much. Look forward to

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<v Speaker 1>seeing you and and and listen to you guys when

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<v Speaker 1>you guys come in.

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<v Speaker 15>Thanks for having me, guys conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>New York Times bestselling.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the book again is Charlie Hustle, The Rise and

726
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<v Speaker 2>Fall of Pete Rose, The Last Glory Days of Baseball,

727
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<v Speaker 2>And that was Keith O'Brien. He's written some great stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>This is his fourth book, all different subjects too. Not

729
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<v Speaker 2>too many sports books in his arsenal there. But he'll

730
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<v Speaker 2>be appearing on Saturday at eleven thirty at the U

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<v Speaker 2>of a Mall tent, so he'll be outside, but it'll

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<v Speaker 2>be covered on a tent at eleven thirty with Jack

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<v Speaker 2>McCallum and Joe Posnansky, and then continue on Saturday with

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<v Speaker 2>another side of sports with Russ Bradbird, who you had

735
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<v Speaker 2>on yesterday, Lewis Moore, and again Keith. That'll be at

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<v Speaker 2>the Integrated Learning Center, which is the down below underneath

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<v Speaker 2>again two thirty on Saturday, so he'll had a couple

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<v Speaker 2>different chances to talk. You get this book signed, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's great to have him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, good stuff. Thanks for getting them, Dave. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>take a break here for our final segments. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>an Arizona men's basketball fan, you know it's been successful

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<v Speaker 1>to the coach and the man who led them, competed

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<v Speaker 1>against them, and inspired them. Twenty five chapters for his

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five years as Arizona's beloved coach, Listens from Newton

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<v Speaker 1>is an insight to how he built the program into

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<v Speaker 1>a national powerhouse. Want one email media Steve dot Rivera

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<v Speaker 6>This is I on the Ball with Steve Ravera on

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to My the Ball. Here a Fox Sports

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, you're Dave Silver. We have

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<v Speaker 1>about twelve minutes left or end of the day. Big

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<v Speaker 1>game here in about four hours, hour and forty five minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah cool. If you guys want to call let us

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<v Speaker 1>know what you're thinking. Is five to two oh four

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<v Speaker 1>one six seventy four forty great interview.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was a nice interview. Yeah, it was good.

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<v Speaker 2>Keith O'Brien has written that book about Pete Rose. He'll

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<v Speaker 2>be here as part of the Tuson Festival of Books.

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<v Speaker 2>You can go to the website to get all the

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<v Speaker 2>schedule of everything. There's literally from ten o'clock until four

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<v Speaker 2>each day Saturday and Sundays. Everybody knows this is like

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<v Speaker 2>the fifteenth anniversary, so big event and good to have

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<v Speaker 2>people like Keith coming in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you could tell he's a pro. Right, he

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<v Speaker 1>knows his toff.

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<v Speaker 2>He's written from good books and he writes for you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't mess around in New York Times, Rolling Stone,

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<v Speaker 2>those types of publications.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, okay, cool basketball? Now know updated on your New

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<v Speaker 1>Years scores that have disappointed you.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, of course, my alma mater, SDSU having trouble getting

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<v Speaker 2>out of the first second round whatever it is in

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<v Speaker 2>the in the Mountain West, losing the Boise State eight.

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<v Speaker 2>But in our Big twelve, Texas Tech is ahead of

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<v Speaker 2>Baylor forty five thirty two. So the winner of that

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<v Speaker 2>will play the winner of the Arizona Kansas game.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yes, the evening session.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it one for? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a gauntlet. Baby day was.

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<v Speaker 2>Of tough Baylor's I thought Baylor was pretty good, but

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<v Speaker 2>they're you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, they were kind of the paper tiger of

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<v Speaker 1>the league, kind of looked good, look, you know whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and then just didn't kind of play up to par

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<v Speaker 1>at least perception rise. Right because byu b YU is

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<v Speaker 1>playing some of the best basketball in the conference.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well and plus you know, Colorado kind of surprising with

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of wins just to get to this point

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<v Speaker 2>to play today, to get you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think it'd be Houston. It's gonna be Houston.

849
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<v Speaker 1>Houston's a one, right, so Houston would be four and

850
00:40:48.400 --> 00:40:51.639
<v Speaker 1>Arizona was a three I think, right, Yeah, so it'd

851
00:40:51.679 --> 00:40:55.079
<v Speaker 1>be one, four two three three, So Houston would be

852
00:40:55.079 --> 00:40:57.239
<v Speaker 1>playing BYU. Yeah, we talked about that.

853
00:40:57.440 --> 00:41:00.559
<v Speaker 2>The style of difference, right right, Houston and would be

854
00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:02.400
<v Speaker 2>playing uh, Baylor Texas Tech.

855
00:41:03.199 --> 00:41:06.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Baylor Texas Tech. Every game is going to be crazy.

856
00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:10.559
<v Speaker 1>Did you ever believe like Richard called and says, you know,

857
00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:13.360
<v Speaker 1>losing their first game whatever back in two thousand and three,

858
00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:16.039
<v Speaker 1>I think it was. It was the time that Gardner

859
00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:18.920
<v Speaker 1>was on the team and Luke and probably the best

860
00:41:18.960 --> 00:41:20.800
<v Speaker 1>one of the best teams that lud ever had, right

861
00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:24.239
<v Speaker 1>when they were going through some issues with hurting. Luke

862
00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I think had hurt his ankle. There were some injuries

863
00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:29.039
<v Speaker 1>and there was some thought of it maybe just you know,

864
00:41:29.360 --> 00:41:32.000
<v Speaker 1>and he hitted the Big Pack twelve tournament anyway, just

865
00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:34.519
<v Speaker 1>kind of show up it out, blah blah, blah. And

866
00:41:34.559 --> 00:41:37.320
<v Speaker 1>they lost in the first round of that of that tournaments,

867
00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:39.840
<v Speaker 1>and people were saying, all they threw it, blah blah blah.

868
00:41:39.880 --> 00:41:41.599
<v Speaker 1>They didn't throw it. He just got beat. That was

869
00:41:41.639 --> 00:41:45.840
<v Speaker 1>a game that Jason Gardner forgot his jersey at home

870
00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:47.400
<v Speaker 1>and they played in l A. I think it was LA,

871
00:41:47.719 --> 00:41:50.800
<v Speaker 1>and uh, you know, he had a horrible game because

872
00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:53.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, when you start thinking about stupid stuff, you

873
00:41:53.280 --> 00:41:55.960
<v Speaker 1>just it just comp compiles and you played poorly.

874
00:41:56.000 --> 00:41:58.199
<v Speaker 2>And well that's what happened to him. I think they

875
00:41:58.199 --> 00:42:01.360
<v Speaker 2>played UCLA for years. It took Lute so many years

876
00:42:01.400 --> 00:42:04.280
<v Speaker 2>to agree to even do that. Get behind the back

877
00:42:04.320 --> 00:42:06.679
<v Speaker 2>to ten or tournaments. He was, you know, then they

878
00:42:06.679 --> 00:42:09.280
<v Speaker 2>started winning it all the time. And then remember those

879
00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:10.960
<v Speaker 2>early years, I don't know if you were even here yet,

880
00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:13.960
<v Speaker 2>where they played them here, they played them on home arenas.

881
00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:15.760
<v Speaker 2>So there was one I think at ASU and one

882
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:16.599
<v Speaker 2>here and one of poly.

883
00:42:16.840 --> 00:42:18.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well then they played him at the champion of

884
00:42:18.679 --> 00:42:20.800
<v Speaker 1>the regular season titles title.

885
00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:23.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe that's why they were at the home and

886
00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:25.760
<v Speaker 2>that's I mean, that's just a sign of the times.

887
00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:27.519
<v Speaker 3>That wouldn't happen anymore.

888
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:28.280
<v Speaker 4>Well.

889
00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Samson talked about that because he played I think it

890
00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:36.480
<v Speaker 1>was in ninety one ish, ninety one ish ninety twoish.

891
00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:39.159
<v Speaker 1>He brought his team Washington and they played UCLA and

892
00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:43.159
<v Speaker 1>Tucson love because they hated Ucla. And he became like

893
00:42:43.199 --> 00:42:46.039
<v Speaker 1>the darling of the tournament because he had upset them,

894
00:42:46.039 --> 00:42:48.440
<v Speaker 1>and he talked about that a little. I remember that

895
00:42:48.639 --> 00:42:51.440
<v Speaker 1>very well because he's he I think he's got some

896
00:42:51.559 --> 00:42:55.199
<v Speaker 1>Native American in him. Yes, And there was that, and

897
00:42:55.199 --> 00:42:58.360
<v Speaker 1>and he became a very popular guy down here and

898
00:42:58.440 --> 00:43:00.719
<v Speaker 1>he's a good dude. Yeah, and his dude and people

899
00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:03.280
<v Speaker 1>and he even mentioned that that he remembers that people

900
00:43:03.639 --> 00:43:06.320
<v Speaker 1>turning on Ucla and and liking him because he had

901
00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:06.920
<v Speaker 1>knocked them up.

902
00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:07.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I do remember that.

903
00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:09.800
<v Speaker 2>And there was a there was some good pieces written

904
00:43:09.840 --> 00:43:12.320
<v Speaker 2>about him as Arizona was about to play Houston this year,

905
00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:15.480
<v Speaker 2>just how much he appreciated Loot and Bobby. I mean,

906
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:18.159
<v Speaker 2>he really went back thirty years just to say he

907
00:43:18.199 --> 00:43:20.000
<v Speaker 2>was a young coach and he was kind of taken

908
00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:22.840
<v Speaker 2>in by them and it treated him well. And you're right,

909
00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:25.440
<v Speaker 2>the fans here I do remember that time where I

910
00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:27.760
<v Speaker 2>think Washington State had Ucla on the ropes.

911
00:43:27.800 --> 00:43:29.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, fans were going crazy for that.

912
00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:31.719
<v Speaker 1>Right, it's always good.

913
00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:34.559
<v Speaker 2>Good, And then remember Arizona owned them for a long

914
00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:37.039
<v Speaker 2>long time. They couldn't get beat by them. I was saying,

915
00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:37.559
<v Speaker 2>thirty nine.

916
00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:40.880
<v Speaker 1>I went to a mathematician to say, what's the probability

917
00:43:40.880 --> 00:43:43.400
<v Speaker 1>of this happening? Happening? Because you can't be the team

918
00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:44.079
<v Speaker 1>thirty nine straight?

919
00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:47.119
<v Speaker 2>Now, didn't they beat Arizona like two or three times

920
00:43:47.159 --> 00:43:49.000
<v Speaker 2>on the road? I don't tell you what the coach was,

921
00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:52.320
<v Speaker 2>Sean Miller, Tony Bennett. Oh, I mean yeah for that.

922
00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Bennett was the coach, and he's style and he had

923
00:43:54.480 --> 00:43:58.559
<v Speaker 1>some good guards. Thompson I think was one of them. Thompson,

924
00:43:58.679 --> 00:44:04.119
<v Speaker 1>Uh why state, Yeah, he had Bennet could coach. The

925
00:44:04.159 --> 00:44:08.079
<v Speaker 1>styles was horrible, you know, drip drip, drip drip did

926
00:44:08.079 --> 00:44:10.719
<v Speaker 1>no fun to watch. But that's what beat Arizona. And

927
00:44:10.880 --> 00:44:13.599
<v Speaker 1>I think Arizona if they play a team like that, well,

928
00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Houston does that, But if they play a team like

929
00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:18.119
<v Speaker 1>that in the tournament and then maybe hit a three

930
00:44:18.239 --> 00:44:20.760
<v Speaker 1>year for something like that every now and again, it's

931
00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:22.039
<v Speaker 1>gonna give him trumple be trouble.

932
00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:24.960
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of weird because you know, Bennett retired in

933
00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:27.039
<v Speaker 2>the middle of the season and then they just fired

934
00:44:27.079 --> 00:44:29.239
<v Speaker 2>the coach who replaced him. Today, I want to say,

935
00:44:29.239 --> 00:44:32.440
<v Speaker 2>so Gia, Virginia went from winning a national title a

936
00:44:32.440 --> 00:44:34.320
<v Speaker 2>few years ago to doing this.

937
00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:36.360
<v Speaker 1>Guess who the favorite to coach that team is.

938
00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:37.159
<v Speaker 3>I have no idea.

939
00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:43.039
<v Speaker 1>IWA State guy, oh something, yeah right, huh yeah. So

940
00:44:43.119 --> 00:44:45.679
<v Speaker 1>we'll see what happens all these coaching that would be.

941
00:44:46.119 --> 00:44:48.039
<v Speaker 2>That would be a step up from where he is

942
00:44:48.039 --> 00:44:51.920
<v Speaker 2>it Iowa stay State into the ACC team that just won.

943
00:44:51.719 --> 00:44:53.639
<v Speaker 1>The not just but a few years ago won the

944
00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:57.119
<v Speaker 1>national title. Yeah, maybe change the direction of how they play.

945
00:44:58.760 --> 00:45:00.639
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you remember this, but in Virginia

946
00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:04.119
<v Speaker 1>at least uh Luke was still married to Christine and

947
00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:06.719
<v Speaker 1>they opened the new gym at Virginia. This had to

948
00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:08.639
<v Speaker 1>be oh yeah, Chase Buddinger's first year. I think it

949
00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:10.119
<v Speaker 1>was when we went out there and I was part

950
00:45:10.119 --> 00:45:12.039
<v Speaker 1>of the you know, I was traveling party to cover

951
00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:14.920
<v Speaker 1>the team, and uh, it was huge. It was huge.

952
00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:16.679
<v Speaker 1>It was you know, and Christine has a lot of money.

953
00:45:16.719 --> 00:45:20.679
<v Speaker 1>She's a big booster in Virginia. Fantastic time. But Bennett

954
00:45:20.719 --> 00:45:23.559
<v Speaker 1>was not the coach at that time. No, but I

955
00:45:23.599 --> 00:45:25.039
<v Speaker 1>do remember that game. It was a big deal.

956
00:45:25.199 --> 00:45:28.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, It's kind of interesting how arizonas opened arenas

957
00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:31.159
<v Speaker 2>and open stadiums for teams for the years.

958
00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:33.039
<v Speaker 1>It's a draw first time, you know.

959
00:45:33.039 --> 00:45:34.039
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, it was a TV game.

960
00:45:34.039 --> 00:45:35.880
<v Speaker 2>It was like on a Saturday night, you know, early

961
00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:39.519
<v Speaker 2>in the season November. Let's let's get Arizona on ESPN

962
00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:41.760
<v Speaker 2>at you know, right from Charlottesville.

963
00:45:41.840 --> 00:45:44.320
<v Speaker 3>Why why is this happening? Oh, it's the first game

964
00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:44.960
<v Speaker 3>in this arena.

965
00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I remember you had to find the Richmond and

966
00:45:46.880 --> 00:45:50.960
<v Speaker 1>then drive to where we're going to. Great location, obviously historic,

967
00:45:51.199 --> 00:45:53.480
<v Speaker 1>you know all these houses that were you know, back

968
00:45:53.480 --> 00:45:53.880
<v Speaker 1>in the day.

969
00:45:54.000 --> 00:45:54.440
<v Speaker 3>Exactly.

970
00:45:54.599 --> 00:45:58.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, anything else we got, we got about eight minutes.

971
00:45:58.679 --> 00:46:01.639
<v Speaker 1>If you guys want to call seven minutes five, two, four, one, six,

972
00:46:01.679 --> 00:46:04.440
<v Speaker 1>seventy four forty w win tonight? What do you think.

973
00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:06.360
<v Speaker 5>You know?

974
00:46:06.519 --> 00:46:07.239
<v Speaker 7>I want you.

975
00:46:09.159 --> 00:46:12.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm not a media member anymore. I'm a fan these days.

976
00:46:12.519 --> 00:46:14.039
<v Speaker 2>It'd be nice if they would win it. Just it

977
00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:16.159
<v Speaker 2>just extends the interest for us.

978
00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:16.360
<v Speaker 5>Here.

979
00:46:16.519 --> 00:46:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you soment. Okay, so, so you've been

980
00:46:18.519 --> 00:46:20.199
<v Speaker 1>in the business. So you were in the business wrong time.

981
00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:22.280
<v Speaker 1>I was in the long time. I'm going to give

982
00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:27.119
<v Speaker 1>you three TV stations to a two to a station

983
00:46:27.719 --> 00:46:32.519
<v Speaker 1>six people. You don't know names of those six. How

984
00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:35.400
<v Speaker 1>many were rooting for Arizona while they covered them?

985
00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:39.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would say that the reason I rooted, say

986
00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:43.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, underneath the table, Yeah, clapping out out front

987
00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:47.280
<v Speaker 2>was just the experience of having fun things to go

988
00:46:47.360 --> 00:46:48.920
<v Speaker 2>do and exciting things to cover.

989
00:46:49.199 --> 00:46:51.320
<v Speaker 3>Professionally, I mean, I look back when I.

990
00:46:51.239 --> 00:46:54.639
<v Speaker 1>Selfish men, Dave you selfish men? Honestly, I mean I

991
00:46:54.639 --> 00:46:56.159
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I reflect.

992
00:46:56.480 --> 00:46:58.719
<v Speaker 2>I reflect on on the big moments, like people are,

993
00:46:58.880 --> 00:47:00.719
<v Speaker 2>what was your favorite thing to do? Well, it was

994
00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:02.639
<v Speaker 2>probably covering the championship in ninety seven?

995
00:47:02.679 --> 00:47:03.280
<v Speaker 3>Well why was it?

996
00:47:03.280 --> 00:47:05.559
<v Speaker 2>Because they played six games in a row, right, And

997
00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:07.960
<v Speaker 2>it was and it just kept on going and so

998
00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:12.920
<v Speaker 2>professionally I would root for that just to have great experiences.

999
00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:15.079
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, and part of it was that year was

1000
00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:18.599
<v Speaker 1>no one expected it, right, no one expected it? Were

1001
00:47:18.599 --> 00:47:21.639
<v Speaker 1>you and there in ninety eight, I was, no one

1002
00:47:21.639 --> 00:47:23.800
<v Speaker 1>expected that. How disappointing was that?

1003
00:47:23.800 --> 00:47:24.039
<v Speaker 5>That was?

1004
00:47:24.199 --> 00:47:26.800
<v Speaker 2>That was tough because everybody had high hopes. I mean

1005
00:47:26.960 --> 00:47:30.599
<v Speaker 2>even the non sports fans of Tucson who just knew, hey,

1006
00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:32.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm on, you know, they're basketball and they just won

1007
00:47:32.679 --> 00:47:33.320
<v Speaker 2>the championship.

1008
00:47:33.320 --> 00:47:35.679
<v Speaker 3>They're gonna do it again, right, and it didn't in

1009
00:47:35.760 --> 00:47:38.000
<v Speaker 3>such a thud for to finish that way?

1010
00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Was sure, sure, yeah, no question, Yeah, okay, so six

1011
00:47:41.440 --> 00:47:45.239
<v Speaker 1>out of six I would say, you mean, who was

1012
00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:46.559
<v Speaker 1>rooting h to win?

1013
00:47:46.760 --> 00:47:49.840
<v Speaker 3>And just yeah, just kind of you know here.

1014
00:47:49.679 --> 00:47:51.639
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you this is probably true too, is that

1015
00:47:51.960 --> 00:47:55.519
<v Speaker 2>as reporters, we were rooting to have you know, a

1016
00:47:55.599 --> 00:47:59.159
<v Speaker 2>successful run and stories to cover. Management probably wasn't too

1017
00:47:59.159 --> 00:48:01.079
<v Speaker 2>thrilled because of my because of the money. You go,

1018
00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:02.480
<v Speaker 2>oh my gosh, now we got to pick up and

1019
00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:04.920
<v Speaker 2>go and send these guys you know somewhere else.

1020
00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:07.639
<v Speaker 1>So that it was rough and where does that come from?

1021
00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:10.519
<v Speaker 1>Because the same thing for us, right, the newspaper. But

1022
00:48:10.559 --> 00:48:13.559
<v Speaker 1>they had a budget because they anticipated this happening. So

1023
00:48:13.639 --> 00:48:14.360
<v Speaker 1>in TV.

1024
00:48:14.960 --> 00:48:18.320
<v Speaker 2>Same we thought, you know, we would think, didn't you

1025
00:48:18.320 --> 00:48:20.519
<v Speaker 2>guys realize they've been doing this twenty five years in

1026
00:48:20.519 --> 00:48:22.519
<v Speaker 2>a row. They're going to go somewhere. It's going to

1027
00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:26.360
<v Speaker 2>cost us X amount of dollars. It blew me away.

1028
00:48:26.480 --> 00:48:29.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean honestly, I was, oh, sorry, yeah, like what

1029
00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:32.280
<v Speaker 2>we just didn't budget for you guys to go you

1030
00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:34.639
<v Speaker 2>know away again. And you know how it was getting credentials,

1031
00:48:34.679 --> 00:48:36.639
<v Speaker 2>It was hard if you didn't go to one round.

1032
00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:38.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is kind of behind the scenes stuff.

1033
00:48:38.360 --> 00:48:40.119
<v Speaker 2>But if you didn't go, you couldn't go the next

1034
00:48:40.199 --> 00:48:41.679
<v Speaker 2>round either because you weren't there.

1035
00:48:41.719 --> 00:48:44.159
<v Speaker 3>And you know, sweet sixteen. So we used to get

1036
00:48:44.159 --> 00:48:45.079
<v Speaker 3>that problem.

1037
00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:46.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you went, so you had to go.

1038
00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:47.320
<v Speaker 3>We used to go.

1039
00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:49.559
<v Speaker 1>They had to find and it just wasn't you. It

1040
00:48:49.599 --> 00:48:50.440
<v Speaker 1>was a photographer.

1041
00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:53.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was usually two and sometimes even three. And

1042
00:48:53.159 --> 00:48:54.920
<v Speaker 2>when I got to the point where, you know, we're

1043
00:48:54.960 --> 00:48:56.519
<v Speaker 2>talking final fours.

1044
00:48:56.320 --> 00:48:58.719
<v Speaker 3>There was new Sercervice. I think I know that.

1045
00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:02.880
<v Speaker 2>I remember in ninety eight we definitely had four people,

1046
00:49:03.760 --> 00:49:05.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, so we were, you know, going out to

1047
00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:08.360
<v Speaker 2>Anaheim with four Well I'm sure we drove, yeah someone,

1048
00:49:08.400 --> 00:49:10.199
<v Speaker 2>no big deal, but anyway.

1049
00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:12.079
<v Speaker 1>Right, No, that's how it was for us too, and

1050
00:49:12.119 --> 00:49:14.880
<v Speaker 1>we were at the underdog ob shiate the citizen against

1051
00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:18.039
<v Speaker 1>big old daily Star people. You know, me Quirky and

1052
00:49:18.119 --> 00:49:20.760
<v Speaker 1>two other people would go and do our thing and

1053
00:49:20.840 --> 00:49:24.280
<v Speaker 1>then you know, don't forget the hotels, don't forget the meals.

1054
00:49:24.840 --> 00:49:28.199
<v Speaker 2>Of course, it was expensive, you know, and that's why

1055
00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:30.320
<v Speaker 2>I was always kind of surprising when when they would

1056
00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:31.159
<v Speaker 2>come to us and go.

1057
00:49:32.239 --> 00:49:35.119
<v Speaker 3>How much how much is this gonna cost Yeah, like

1058
00:49:35.239 --> 00:49:36.280
<v Speaker 3>just like last year, and.

1059
00:49:36.199 --> 00:49:38.840
<v Speaker 1>You would think though, just by the by, the common

1060
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<v Speaker 1>man would think that's a no brainer. Yeah, you're going right,

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<v Speaker 1>and Tev's got money. We thought. Now it's like not

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<v Speaker 1>so much. I mean, you've seen what's happening on all

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<v Speaker 1>the stations and only one newspaper now and they're struggling

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<v Speaker 1>where you have like Bruce the only guy in Kansas

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<v Speaker 1>and now out covering the team. Yeah, because it's just

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<v Speaker 1>the way the world is.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I guess, thank goodness, we still have a

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<v Speaker 2>local newspaper that they can do that can that can

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<v Speaker 2>afford that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because yeah, the TVs, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess we'll see next week how things go with

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<v Speaker 2>the tournament where they send.

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<v Speaker 3>People, if they do. If they do send people.

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<v Speaker 2>It's probably a little bit easier now than it was

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<v Speaker 2>twenty years ago, just to do things technically right, where

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<v Speaker 2>maybe one person could handle things. But you know, back

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<v Speaker 2>in the day, you know, I can only do so

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<v Speaker 2>much and I had to have some help, right, That's

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<v Speaker 2>how it worked out.

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<v Speaker 1>Well now, well, and I'm sure back then too. You

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<v Speaker 1>can get the feed off the off the podium and

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<v Speaker 1>and everything you need is there. I shouldn't say that

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<v Speaker 1>public to the producers, you know, but that's just how

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<v Speaker 1>it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know all the quotes you need that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we've kind of lamented that you even on

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<v Speaker 2>this show just about the lack of access, but you

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<v Speaker 2>also had that chance to go into the locker rooms

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<v Speaker 2>in the NCAA tournaments too, which was which was really

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<v Speaker 2>good for everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>And in this tournament too because that's Vegas. That was Vegas.

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<v Speaker 1>We that's when we really found out which we have

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<v Speaker 1>it too mon that uh that uh eighten the entry

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<v Speaker 1>Eaton had a personality that he was a joke story

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<v Speaker 1>he was only eighteen eighteen almost nineteen, where he was

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<v Speaker 1>a joker. He'd mess around for around blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>Because we had no idea, We never had access to

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<v Speaker 1>him until the post heason.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>And also you know, basically when you don't have access,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's kind of doing the same story, right, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the TV's pulling the same little SoundBite that you guys

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<v Speaker 2>are pulling for your quotes and stuff. But when they

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<v Speaker 2>had access to the locker room, we'd turn around the

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<v Speaker 2>next day and go, WHOA, where'd they get that story,

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<v Speaker 2>it's because you had, you know, five minutes with you know,

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<v Speaker 2>DeAndre Ayton that we didn't get.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe because we were too busy.

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<v Speaker 2>Doing something else, right, right, all those that's the way

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<v Speaker 2>it is scooped right, right. And then you say, well

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't send us Yeah that's what Dave. How come

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't have that story? Well, because you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>was doing something else. I had to run out to

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<v Speaker 2>the truck. What about this story I did do?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, okay, guys, everybody's time. Thank you Dave again, as always,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for takeitho O'Brien. Yeah, it was terrific. And see

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<v Speaker 1>at the book festival co Hen Gonzales, good luck to them, Pima. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll see You'll see you next week, Dave. Just

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<v Speaker 1>gotta know your schedule. Thank you,
