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<v Speaker 1>The following program is produced by the Tech Talk Radio Network.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, folks, this is Sam Kinnison and you're listening to

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<v Speaker 2>tech talk radio right here. You understand that, you cake,

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<v Speaker 2>oh oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to another episode of tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Sean de Weird. Thank you for being here, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know Sean has had a very very exciting couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks. First off, you'll be able to watch the

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<v Speaker 1>video of him walking around the show floor of the

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<v Speaker 1>National Association of Broadcasters the Big NAB Show. This is

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<v Speaker 1>your first show that you went to, right, So it's the.

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<v Speaker 2>First time I've went to this specific trade show for broadcast. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's an annual show they do in Vegas. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the largest broadcasting trade show in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>I did a live chot with Andy while we were there,

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<v Speaker 2>and also walking on just one of the buildings of

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<v Speaker 2>the trade floor.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, they had stuff everywhere and it was funny

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<v Speaker 1>because of course broadcasting covers television, it covers radio, covers

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<v Speaker 1>at radio. Now it's covering the Internet as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's interesting to see because I've been in the

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<v Speaker 2>broadcasting eighty obviously you've been in the broadcast industry for

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<v Speaker 2>radio since the early eighties. I've been in broadcast television

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<v Speaker 2>since the late two thousand and you know, two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and nine, the late twenty tens, and even from that

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<v Speaker 2>time frame to now, it's changed. And what's interesting is

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of a weird blending of prosumer and professional

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<v Speaker 2>equipment because you have a lot of content creators that

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<v Speaker 2>are doing large studio productions now YouTube studios. I mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>it to you in our call, is that I got

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<v Speaker 2>to network with so many great people. I got to

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<v Speaker 2>meet a lot of the people that my boss has

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<v Speaker 2>known for decades across the industry. And what was cool

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<v Speaker 2>was we were meeting with one specific vendor when another

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<v Speaker 2>guy came up and was talking to our vendor real

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<v Speaker 2>quickly because he knew them. He went they went to

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<v Speaker 2>college together, right, But it was the lead I don't

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<v Speaker 2>remember what his title was, but like the lead content

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<v Speaker 2>developer for dude Perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, well that's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, if you're listening to this and you

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<v Speaker 2>don't know who dude Perfect is, Dude Perfect is probably

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<v Speaker 2>one of the largest YouTube channels that exists based off

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, the Internet, Like they one of the

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<v Speaker 2>largest YouTube channels that exist. So they were there because

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<v Speaker 2>they're looking for new equipment for a new facility they're

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<v Speaker 2>building for their studio. They're building another large studio on

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<v Speaker 2>their property for Dude Perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, for people there, Yeah, it had to be

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<v Speaker 1>kind of eye opening for you. For people who say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, well there's no money in broadcasting on YouTube,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no money in you know, creating content. You find

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<v Speaker 1>that to be a I mean, they're going to build

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<v Speaker 1>a studio and they're so they.

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<v Speaker 2>The dude you have to put the super protective, right.

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<v Speaker 2>The Dude Perfect just started off as like it's like

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<v Speaker 2>three guys, right, three guys doing YouTube show. It blew up.

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<v Speaker 2>Then they had enough money to build a forty thousand

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<v Speaker 2>square foot studio. Now they're adding on an additional forty

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<v Speaker 2>thousand foot building, forty thousand square foot building that has

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<v Speaker 2>sound stages and other sets, and they're developing them and

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<v Speaker 2>expanding their brand. So they're they're looking at vendors for

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<v Speaker 2>what who can provide the equipment? And I mean it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's from everything. It's from it's from planning and execution

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<v Speaker 2>software for pre production, it's equipment, it's integrators, it's the

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<v Speaker 2>actual content you're creating. It's editing, it's post production, it's lighting,

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<v Speaker 2>it's sound, it's design, it's literally everything you need to

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<v Speaker 2>have your entire production taken care of. You could get

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<v Speaker 2>at anyb and it's meeting with industry reps, it's meeting

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<v Speaker 2>with vendors, it's meeting with your sales you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>people that take care of you on the sales teams

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff. I met more people that I've talked to

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<v Speaker 2>on the phone or via email for the first time,

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<v Speaker 2>which is great. And I met new people well it

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<v Speaker 2>I hadn't met.

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<v Speaker 1>It had to be kind of cool, Sean, because you

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<v Speaker 1>do use a lot of gear obviously for the games

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<v Speaker 1>that they do at Notre Dame, where you know you're

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<v Speaker 1>working and stuff, so this might be for you the

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<v Speaker 1>first time actually reaching and meeting somebody that makes a

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<v Speaker 1>tripod or makes amount or makes the camera or makes

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<v Speaker 1>you know, something that you use in the production booth.

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<v Speaker 1>That had to be kind of a cool experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I got to talk to the people that make

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<v Speaker 2>the products too, right. I got to talk to the

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<v Speaker 2>product developers for our intercom system for you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>guy that works on the lenses for Cannon that like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like I got to talk to these people and

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<v Speaker 2>expect get to know them and you know, get to

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<v Speaker 2>provide feedback to them saying like, this is what we're

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<v Speaker 2>using it for, this is a use case that we're

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<v Speaker 2>using it for, this is why we like this product,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is the feat back that we can give

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<v Speaker 2>you on you know, our clients experience with your product.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's all just the name of the game, right,

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<v Speaker 2>It's just part of the business. It's part of why

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<v Speaker 2>NAB is so great is you get to meet with

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<v Speaker 2>all these great people.

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<v Speaker 1>When it comes to products that really stood out. Was

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<v Speaker 1>there something that you saw at NAB that made you say, whoa,

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe it's not even out yet, but it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be coming out, because that's that's the neat thing

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<v Speaker 1>about this this show that you said, oh, this is

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<v Speaker 1>something we need to eventually get to help our workflow.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people went into NAB saying AI is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be in your face. Right, it was there,

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<v Speaker 2>It was prevalent. What you saw a lot in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of AI was AI audio mixing, AI camera tracking right,

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<v Speaker 2>and some AI editing tools. I mean a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>AI editing, a lot of AI editing tools the AI AI. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>mixing is cool because you could simulate. There's a company

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<v Speaker 2>called Salsa Sound, right. They make a product where you

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<v Speaker 2>provide it audio and you map it out on basically,

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<v Speaker 2>say soccer for example. That's what we're gonna demo it for.

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<v Speaker 2>You map it out and say, here's where this microphone

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<v Speaker 2>is on the pitch, Here's where this one is, here's

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<v Speaker 2>where that one is, Here's where my announcements are, and

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<v Speaker 2>you feed it. The audist is very You feed it

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<v Speaker 2>the specific audio for those locations, and then it auto

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<v Speaker 2>mixes as it follows the game. Wow, as the ball

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<v Speaker 2>goes to the left hand side of the field, as

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<v Speaker 2>the mics pick up more audio, it brings the mics

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<v Speaker 2>on the right side of the field down and brings

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<v Speaker 2>up the mics on.

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<v Speaker 1>The left side.

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<v Speaker 2>Auto mixes based on some vision AI but also mostly

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<v Speaker 2>just audio AI. Basically, the MIC's requieter on the north end,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's gonna be cloud the play is actually happening

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<v Speaker 2>on the south end. So but it can gate, it

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<v Speaker 2>can auto gate, it can limit, it can do all

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff automatically.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that worry you though? I mean we let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>face it, you know, we talk about how cool AI is.

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<v Speaker 1>We've used AI in different sources, different ways, but you

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<v Speaker 1>have technical directors that and I've I've worked in a

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<v Speaker 1>TV studio before as well. You know, they they take

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<v Speaker 1>take camera one, take camera two, take camera three. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>and your guys you're using you know, multiple cameras. Will

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<v Speaker 1>AI eventually be the one to choose, like, you know, hey, camera,

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<v Speaker 1>the ball is running down this way, we're switching to

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<v Speaker 2>So you say that Ross. Ross is a company that

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<v Speaker 2>provides tons of broadcasts features across the age. They're one

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<v Speaker 2>of the largest in the in the industry. They demoed

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<v Speaker 2>on stage a AI listening technical director right where that

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<v Speaker 2>the CEO of Ross walked across the stage and was

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the weather. And it not only did AI

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<v Speaker 2>cutting in terms of cutting cameras, but it actually put

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<v Speaker 2>in graphics. It put in like he talked about the

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<v Speaker 2>weather out to find the look up the Ross twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five and it'd be keynote, right, and I don't remember,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember what they called it, what they called

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<v Speaker 2>the specific product, but he was just talking about, well,

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<v Speaker 2>let's take a look at the seven day forecast, and

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<v Speaker 2>it automatically changed the graphics, showed the seven day forecast,

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<v Speaker 2>and he could just he could kind of just pick

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<v Speaker 2>and choose what he wanted to say, and it would

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<v Speaker 2>automatically change the scene. It would kind of it. But

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<v Speaker 2>it was also interpretive, so it could it could anticipate

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<v Speaker 2>what he was gonna talk about next, uh, and it

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<v Speaker 2>automatically changed the green screen graphics and automatically changed the cameras.

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<v Speaker 2>It was pretty wild. Yeah, I will say it was

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<v Speaker 2>interesting to see. They showed a live output of the

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<v Speaker 2>trans the transcription man didn't get.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of words wrong, did it really?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're watching it, We're watching it side by side,

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<v Speaker 2>like with what's happening versus what the a eyes reading

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<v Speaker 2>it didn't even it didn't even get their own products right,

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<v Speaker 2>which was kind of funny. But I mean, for that

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<v Speaker 2>to be happening that fast in the cloud, and because

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<v Speaker 2>it was all cloud based, was pretty impressive. Because last

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<v Speaker 2>year they did demo a a guy sitting at his desk,

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<v Speaker 2>hands in the air saying all right, ready one cut one,

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<v Speaker 2>ready to cut two ready, you know, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>actually following along, So that's coming, we know that's coming.

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<v Speaker 2>Some more automation in terms of like the overdrive portion

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<v Speaker 2>where a director goes in and they don't have a

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<v Speaker 2>technical director. They just code the show based on camera

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<v Speaker 2>shots and based on queues and things like that, and

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<v Speaker 2>then they just hit the space bar and it moves forward.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people don't realize that a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>newsrooms are automated, like they don't They don't have a

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<v Speaker 2>technical director, they don't have an audio operator, and rarely

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<v Speaker 2>do they even have camera operators in the studio anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>They're all just they're all just locked off shots or

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<v Speaker 2>they have robotic heads that will turn and zoom and even.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you're not talking you're not talking about the talent.

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<v Speaker 1>You're talking about the cameras with the robotic heads, right, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Not robotic, not robotic talent, even though some may be

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<v Speaker 2>seen robotic. Yes, but yeah, so a lot of robotic

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of automation AI coming for that. But a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the AI focus was on eight camera tracking,

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<v Speaker 2>so not only broadcast cameras but just PTC pantel zoom

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<v Speaker 2>the back of the room and it can focus on

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<v Speaker 2>a subject and follow them, keeping them in frame. You

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<v Speaker 2>can then delegate one or two targets if you want it,

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<v Speaker 2>so they can say, if this person is not there,

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<v Speaker 2>track this person. It's even getting to the point where

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<v Speaker 2>they can say track player numbers and keep them in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of the frame. Oh, you can track. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you could have a you could have a

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<v Speaker 2>medium to a wide shot tracking specific players.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, focus on the quarterback, focus on, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, focus you know, so based on facial recognition or

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<v Speaker 2>player identification and things like that. So seeing a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of that was pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say this is kind of cool because when

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<v Speaker 1>the graphics, the teleprompter, all of that. But there's no

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<v Speaker 2>Well, right, So, I mean we've talked about that. I

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<v Speaker 2>Uncanny Valley, right, people are going to know And it's

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<v Speaker 2>especially in the lark. Maybe in the smaller markets where

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<v Speaker 1>But in the smaller market stations that could be a possibility,

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<v Speaker 1>can get that with AI delivery. Radio is going to

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<v Speaker 1>faster to radio than they will with TV because TV

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<v Speaker 2>the US is doing four K? Nobody? Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>in Japan is eight K because they can and they're national.

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<v Speaker 1>AK over the air. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>they're the only reason is because they can, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>They're proud of that. But there's no who's watching it

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<v Speaker 2>any k? I mean, I don't know it's Japan, who

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<v Speaker 2>replay stuff maybe four k down the road. But that's UHD.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you're you're running into a whole different level

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So who had the biggest booth at this

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<v Speaker 2>Probably Sony.

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<v Speaker 1>Sony really for well everything right, cameras.

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<v Speaker 2>Software, everything cameras from their still camera line all the

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<v Speaker 2>way through their broadcast line, their switchers, their production of

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<v Speaker 2>their broadcast line. It was wild how much there's booth

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<v Speaker 2>took up. Well, I walked through it with you. You'll

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<v Speaker 1>Yep. Now what about Dji. Dji has been one of

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<v Speaker 1>those companies that is is huge. DJ guys enormous. Were

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<v Speaker 1>they there because of you know, some of the stuff

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<v Speaker 2>So they were definitely were there. They actually had a

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<v Speaker 2>all in one camera gimble that you came out cinema

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<v Speaker 2>lenses to. Oh wow, and it's battery power. It's great,

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<v Speaker 2>had their awesome line there, they had their action cam

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<v Speaker 2>line there, and they actually had their power banks there,

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<v Speaker 2>which well, we'll talk a little bit more about that,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was interesting how there's a lot of there

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<v Speaker 2>were there were a lot of vendors that I saw

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<v Speaker 2>that either had their own version of power banks or

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<v Speaker 2>were powering their equipment with other power banks. Like here,

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<v Speaker 2>look at our remote kit, Look at our remote setup.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we're powering our whole booth off of lithium ion batteries.

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<v Speaker 2>So everybody has their own. The technology has gotten so

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<v Speaker 2>much cheaper. Well maybe not now with whatever's coming with

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<v Speaker 2>tariffs and stuff, but it's approachable. It's you can get

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<v Speaker 2>this for relatively inexpensive that will power all of your lights,

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<v Speaker 2>it'll power your laptop, it'll power your camera, it'll power remotely.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to have a generator that makes noise. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's it's a it's a fanless unit. It makes

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<v Speaker 2>I really know, well who knew. I mean, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>one thousand. And it's been great. And at once we're

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<v Speaker 1>This is a good and I'll tell you we talked

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<v Speaker 1>people to get one. I have a power I have

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<v Speaker 1>a power bank. It's not that one. It's the one

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<v Speaker 1>from I think it's Anchor, and I mean, I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay, it's good. I kind of wish when I

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<v Speaker 1>have been better. But I have a solar power connector.

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of them. Some of them were doing some big,

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So I'm wondering. I'm wondering. Now we TAWD

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned the word tariff. Of course, there's been a

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<v Speaker 1>There was a word that we're not going to see

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<v Speaker 1>the tarffs on that, and then the next day we

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<v Speaker 1>were told no, no, no, somebody misspoke. We are going

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<v Speaker 1>to see terraffs on some of the technology that's coming

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<v Speaker 1>out of China and whatnot. But I'm wondering, did you

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the only only drone stuff that I saw,

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<v Speaker 2>DJ I didn't didn't even have I don't think I

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<v Speaker 2>There was hardly any drone stuff at all, right, at

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<v Speaker 2>other There was some literature about them, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>do is drones, right, you know, that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But the companies that we talked to, some of them

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<v Speaker 2>did mention, well, we're going to have to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>percent for tariffs, or yeah, you know, or hey, we

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<v Speaker 2>So we it's now assembled in the US. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to pay tariffs. And so that was a common

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<v Speaker 2>So it's interesting to see where that's going to go.

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<v Speaker 2>And that could check up our price on equipment by

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<v Speaker 2>twenty percent potentially for certain things.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you talked about that one gentleman you had met

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<v Speaker 1>with the YouTube channel. Did you find there were a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of influencers or internet companies that were there that

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<v Speaker 1>Now you know creators can can do this kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I mean it's not just television anymore. It's

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<v Speaker 2>it's cinema, it's everything that in terms of production, like

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<v Speaker 2>the production value for the Internet is there. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you had all the major parties involved in all Netflix,

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<v Speaker 2>so they all had a presence. So well, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>Netflix is a major broadcasting platform. Now live sports have

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<v Speaker 2>platform or a cloud product, this is my opinion on this,

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<v Speaker 2>it's easier for you to get into their ecosystem. So

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<v Speaker 2>let's say, like for for us at Notre Dame, we

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<v Speaker 2>use Ross expression for our graphics. For our graphics packages

422
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<v Speaker 2>are Spore, bugst cetera. They offer a expression in the

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<v Speaker 2>cloud package, meaning I can just pay Ross x amount

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<v Speaker 2>of dollars for a license and then pay Amazon the

425
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<v Speaker 2>price of the time that I'm using their instance online. Right,

426
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<v Speaker 2>so they're whatever their s three bucket or whatever they're

427
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<v Speaker 2>you know, e, two instant, whatever whatever the instance is called.

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<v Speaker 1>And you say Amazon for our listens, don't know AWS,

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<v Speaker 1>that's AWS.

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<v Speaker 2>Whoever your cloud provider is. It could be a Zoo,

431
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<v Speaker 2>a zoo, it could be a ask a good work.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be easier for people to do smaller

433
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<v Speaker 2>level productions at a scalable cost, meaning I could get

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<v Speaker 2>expression level graphics on my show if I only need

435
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<v Speaker 2>one graphic or two fonts or something, and I'm always

436
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<v Speaker 2>spending you know, one thousand dollars or fifteen hundred dollars

437
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<v Speaker 2>or whatever it's going to be, instead of getting a

438
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<v Speaker 2>fifteen thousand dollars server and having a ten thousand dollars

439
00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:31.400
<v Speaker 2>license attached to it perpetually. Yeah, all right, So it's

440
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<v Speaker 2>gonna you're gonna be able to timegate yourself a little bit.

441
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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna be able to bring costs down based on

442
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<v Speaker 2>the volume of your production, but spin up more if

443
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<v Speaker 2>you need it. So everyone has a cloud production everybody

444
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<v Speaker 2>has some sort of cloud production service, which it's going

445
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<v Speaker 2>to in my opinion, it's gonna go towards a SaaS

446
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<v Speaker 2>model software as a service model, meaning software will be

447
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<v Speaker 2>available to you in the cloud. You pay for it

448
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<v Speaker 2>to be installed on your your Amazon Webon instance or

449
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<v Speaker 2>a Zoo or whatever, and then you use it and

450
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<v Speaker 2>then when it's off, you don't pay for it. You

451
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<v Speaker 2>could spin it up, you pay for it, it's off,

452
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<v Speaker 2>you don't pay for it. So you're gonna be able

453
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<v Speaker 2>to get more money for your volume of content than

454
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<v Speaker 2>if you just had hardware on prem One of.

455
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<v Speaker 1>The big companies that has really gone deep into SAS

456
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<v Speaker 1>is Adobe, and you know, I've talked about my issues

457
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<v Speaker 1>that I've had recently with Adobe, But were they there

458
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<v Speaker 1>because they they are putting out some really great products

459
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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to the post production process of whether

460
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<v Speaker 1>it be photography or videography or or even film.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean you had black Magic, Adobe, Avid, all

462
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<v Speaker 2>the major all the major partners, all the major players

463
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<v Speaker 2>in that space were there showcasing their stuff. It was

464
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<v Speaker 2>cool to be able to walk around and you'd go

465
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<v Speaker 2>over towards the Adobe booth and they'd have an editor

466
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<v Speaker 2>from a major movie picture giving a talk showing their

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<v Speaker 2>timeline on the screen and how they did it and

468
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<v Speaker 2>how they used gender, you know, how they used AI

469
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<v Speaker 2>or how they you know, basically showing how.

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<v Speaker 1>They did things that had to be great to see.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they had workshops. I could have sat and

472
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<v Speaker 2>done workshops on generative AI with Firefly and other things

473
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<v Speaker 2>like that. So they're all there, and they're all pushing

474
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<v Speaker 2>towards AI. Yeah, and they're all going software as a service.

475
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's just the way it is, and I

476
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<v Speaker 2>don't foresee it ever going back to not that way

477
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<v Speaker 2>because they it's so much easier for them to push

478
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<v Speaker 2>forward in terms of advancement and technology then say we're

479
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<v Speaker 2>going to gate this behind the news version, right and

480
00:25:33.559 --> 00:25:36.240
<v Speaker 2>forcing you to pay for a new version. You can

481
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<v Speaker 2>just pay X about a month and get the most

482
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<v Speaker 2>up to date and keep me keep moving forward and

483
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<v Speaker 2>you can choose when you stop and you know that

484
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<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff.

485
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<v Speaker 1>But all right, so I have to ask have you

486
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<v Speaker 1>been to CES the Consumer Electronics Show? All right, so

487
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<v Speaker 1>you've been down to Navy. So now what we have

488
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<v Speaker 1>to do is we have to plan for you to

489
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<v Speaker 1>be able to go to CES in January. Uh so

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<v Speaker 1>that that way you can kind of compare them and

491
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<v Speaker 1>see which one kind of holds more interest for you.

492
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<v Speaker 1>So you could check that out because either way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I mean I've followed CEES and I

494
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<v Speaker 2>know you guys have been to CS and the Consumer

495
00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:16.480
<v Speaker 2>Electronic Show. It's intrigues me because I'm a techie. But

496
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<v Speaker 2>I don't care about robots. I don't care about vacuum

497
00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:23.759
<v Speaker 2>robots and you know ring doorbells that are gonna, yeah,

498
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<v Speaker 2>shock the delivery guy when he doesn't deliver my package.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Like it's stuff like that that that's

500
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<v Speaker 2>a good thought. Like I like conferences and you know,

501
00:26:32.839 --> 00:26:34.839
<v Speaker 2>everybody told me, it's like, oh, make sure you wear

502
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<v Speaker 2>good shoes. And because you're gonna walk a lot. It's like,

503
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<v Speaker 2>it's not like I haven't been to conventions, right, I

504
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<v Speaker 2>just haven't been to broadcast. I've been to gaming conventions.

505
00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:44.319
<v Speaker 2>I've been to other conventions. So it's like, I know

506
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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna walk a lot, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, all right, So we got to take a break.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's what we're gonna do. For those watching the video,

509
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<v Speaker 1>and you might want to jump in check out the video.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna air the walkthrough that Sean did for the

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<v Speaker 1>National Association Broadcasters Show. Watch that. We'll come back on

512
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<v Speaker 1>the radio with more of tech talk Radio. Matter of fact,

513
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<v Speaker 1>if you've been thinking about getting one of those electric

514
00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:10.160
<v Speaker 1>power banks, why you want to do that? Sean is

515
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<v Speaker 1>a great example of that. When we come back, I'm

516
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<v Speaker 1>aye Taylor.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure to wear it. Find us on the web

518
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<v Speaker 2>at tech talk radio dot com. We'll be rebetd And

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<v Speaker 2>now back to tech talk Radio. Before the break, eighty

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<v Speaker 2>was mentioned that I was gonna talk about my DJA

521
00:27:24.400 --> 00:27:26.480
<v Speaker 2>power bank that I bought. We talked a little bit

522
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<v Speaker 2>about because I saw it. They were at an A

523
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<v Speaker 2>B and I'm boy, am I glad I bought it?

524
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<v Speaker 1>Now you got you got it. It was a like

525
00:27:32.960 --> 00:27:36.359
<v Speaker 1>a push sail that just showed up in your inbox.

526
00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:39.039
<v Speaker 2>I got an email from djssay and get up to

527
00:27:39.240 --> 00:27:40.640
<v Speaker 2>forty percent off or something.

528
00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:41.079
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

529
00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:44.079
<v Speaker 2>And then I saw that it was on sale on

530
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<v Speaker 2>Amazon for like thirty percent off, and I was like,

531
00:27:47.920 --> 00:27:49.480
<v Speaker 2>there's no way if I put this code in, it's

532
00:27:49.519 --> 00:27:52.279
<v Speaker 2>gonna give you more than that. And sure off, I

533
00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:53.759
<v Speaker 2>put the code in and it dropped it down to

534
00:27:53.839 --> 00:27:55.960
<v Speaker 2>like three ninety nine or something. It was ridiculous. I

535
00:27:56.000 --> 00:27:57.640
<v Speaker 2>got it for I got it for way cheaper than

536
00:27:57.680 --> 00:28:00.000
<v Speaker 2>I should have. So it's it's the DJI power Bank

537
00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:04.839
<v Speaker 2>one thousands, enormous. It's pretty big, but it's got uh,

538
00:28:05.039 --> 00:28:07.640
<v Speaker 2>it's got a C out, it's got DC out, and

539
00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:09.960
<v Speaker 2>it's got the ability to plug into solar panels to

540
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<v Speaker 2>charge it.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a Buddy sticker you have on the top

542
00:28:12.839 --> 00:28:14.839
<v Speaker 1>of that, Yeah?

543
00:28:15.200 --> 00:28:19.440
<v Speaker 2>An alien an alienware sticker, a Bucky sticker. We had

544
00:28:19.680 --> 00:28:24.720
<v Speaker 2>a really bad storm come through central and northern Indiana

545
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<v Speaker 2>beginning of the month, okay, and we're watching to roll through,

546
00:28:31.000 --> 00:28:37.319
<v Speaker 2>no big deal, and then oh, delights just flickered. Oh oh,

547
00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:38.519
<v Speaker 2>and then the power's out.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man.

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00:28:40.599 --> 00:28:45.640
<v Speaker 2>So most of our area, the Greater South Bend area

550
00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:49.079
<v Speaker 2>didn't have power. Right, it was four o'clock. It was

551
00:28:49.119 --> 00:28:51.039
<v Speaker 2>a Sunday. It was four o'clock in the afternoon. Right,

552
00:28:51.039 --> 00:28:53.119
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't too bad. So we were like, okay, whatever,

553
00:28:53.240 --> 00:28:57.160
<v Speaker 2>we weathered it out. It was like, let's yeah, powers out.

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00:28:57.160 --> 00:28:59.480
<v Speaker 2>What are we gonna do? Yeah? Then Max is like

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<v Speaker 2>I want to oh boy, oh, how are we going

556
00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:03.960
<v Speaker 2>to do that?

557
00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:05.359
<v Speaker 1>Right now?

558
00:29:05.440 --> 00:29:07.480
<v Speaker 2>It's getting dark? How do we We're gonna turn some

559
00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:09.319
<v Speaker 2>lights on? So I was like, oh hey, let me

560
00:29:09.400 --> 00:29:11.440
<v Speaker 2>run into the basement. So I ran into the basement.

561
00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:15.000
<v Speaker 2>I pulled this bad boy outright, and I plugged into

562
00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:18.880
<v Speaker 2>lamp to it. And then I was like, well, why

563
00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:21.480
<v Speaker 2>don't I My UPS is on? I have a UPS

564
00:29:21.559 --> 00:29:26.759
<v Speaker 2>plugged into my internet, which so my internet never went out.

565
00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:29.039
<v Speaker 2>So I was like, oh, I still WiFi. That's good.

566
00:29:29.799 --> 00:29:33.200
<v Speaker 2>The cell phone service in our neighborhood stinks. So I

567
00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:34.599
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, I have Wi Fi, but how long

568
00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:35.559
<v Speaker 2>the UPS will last?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>So I plugged in one of my lamps to this,

571
00:29:39.599 --> 00:29:42.839
<v Speaker 2>and I plugged in the powership that fed my internet,

572
00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:47.759
<v Speaker 2>and we had internet in a light in our living room.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh cool, all right.

574
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<v Speaker 2>And it has a power draw meaning on it and

575
00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:56.000
<v Speaker 2>those three things the motem, the router, my TV and

576
00:29:56.039 --> 00:29:58.400
<v Speaker 2>the lamp. It said it was going to run like

577
00:29:58.759 --> 00:29:59.599
<v Speaker 2>nineteen hours.

578
00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:03.359
<v Speaker 1>Are you kidding me? Nineteen hours? Oh that's great. I

579
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<v Speaker 1>was sticking in the tops maybe two hours?

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no it It gives you a power draw

581
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<v Speaker 2>and I think it was pulling something like forty watts

582
00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:15.319
<v Speaker 2>of power me right, So every and then I thought, well,

583
00:30:16.200 --> 00:30:18.039
<v Speaker 2>I probably need to turn it plug my fridge.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh there you go, good, good eye.

585
00:30:20.279 --> 00:30:24.799
<v Speaker 2>So I ran an extension cord to this and powered

586
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<v Speaker 2>my fridge.

587
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<v Speaker 1>Did it draw very much? Oh?

588
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<v Speaker 2>It threw a lot more. And then it said, oh,

589
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<v Speaker 2>you like about ten hours?

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<v Speaker 1>Still, that's good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And then and then then at that point, I,

592
00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:38.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, once we knew we weren't gonna be we

593
00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:41.880
<v Speaker 2>were gonna be without power for more than twenty four hours.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a thirty five hundred watt inverter generator that

595
00:30:46.680 --> 00:30:49.359
<v Speaker 2>I ran outside, turned it on, ran the extension cord

596
00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:51.720
<v Speaker 2>in the house, and you know, powered the fridge and

597
00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:54.799
<v Speaker 2>the freezer and took the load off this from the

598
00:30:54.839 --> 00:30:57.000
<v Speaker 2>fridge right, but this was great.

599
00:30:57.279 --> 00:30:59.839
<v Speaker 1>Could you charge now? Could you charge that at this

600
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:04.279
<v Speaker 1>same time off the thirty five hundred generator outside?

601
00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:07.559
<v Speaker 2>You sure can. There's this fancy little switch on the

602
00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:12.960
<v Speaker 2>front that says twelve hundred watts or six hundred watts. Well,

603
00:31:13.000 --> 00:31:14.759
<v Speaker 2>when I plugged it in, it was in the twelve

604
00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:17.799
<v Speaker 2>hundred wat mode, and boy did my generator let me

605
00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:19.400
<v Speaker 2>know it was pulling twelve hundred watts.

606
00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:21.359
<v Speaker 1>Oh oh, I plugged it.

607
00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:23.720
<v Speaker 2>I plugged it into charge, and my generator took it.

608
00:31:24.160 --> 00:31:26.759
<v Speaker 2>Was like, whoa, hey, I gotta put more power out

609
00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:30.039
<v Speaker 2>because then I then I looked, and then my generator

610
00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:33.559
<v Speaker 2>definitely the generator kicked into high mode because it was pulling.

611
00:31:34.680 --> 00:31:37.319
<v Speaker 2>It was pulling twelve hundred watts right just to charge

612
00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:40.440
<v Speaker 2>this let alone also run my fridge and the freezer.

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00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:42.359
<v Speaker 2>So I was like, okay, I'm gonna back that down

614
00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:44.000
<v Speaker 2>a little bit. So I put it in the six

615
00:31:44.079 --> 00:31:46.359
<v Speaker 2>hundred watt mode and it settled down a little bit.

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00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:47.279
<v Speaker 1>Nice.

617
00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:52.759
<v Speaker 2>When when we got power back, we were without power

618
00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:54.599
<v Speaker 2>for almost we were over forty eight hours, so we

619
00:31:54.640 --> 00:31:58.200
<v Speaker 2>had power for two So when this was plugged into

620
00:31:58.240 --> 00:32:00.400
<v Speaker 2>the generator, charge and then obviously when I when it

621
00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:03.319
<v Speaker 2>was full, I just ran the the other the pieces

622
00:32:03.319 --> 00:32:05.799
<v Speaker 2>that I needed off just this. You know cell phones,

623
00:32:06.240 --> 00:32:08.240
<v Speaker 2>it's got USBC on the front. So we plugged our

624
00:32:08.279 --> 00:32:11.079
<v Speaker 2>cell phones into it, plumped our smart watches into it

625
00:32:11.119 --> 00:32:18.079
<v Speaker 2>overnight and but from like like a ten percent charge

626
00:32:18.079 --> 00:32:21.039
<v Speaker 2>on this when it was finally like our I needed

627
00:32:21.079 --> 00:32:22.759
<v Speaker 2>to charge it. Once our power came back on, right,

628
00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:25.720
<v Speaker 2>this thing went from zero like like a ten or

629
00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:28.599
<v Speaker 2>twelve percent charge to full in like thirty five minutes.

630
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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>It was. It was crazy because it just it just

632
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<v Speaker 2>yanks so much power out of the out of the ether,

633
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<v Speaker 2>and it was really great. So very happy with the

634
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<v Speaker 2>DJI power one thousand.

635
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<v Speaker 1>How much now that was? You got it for three

636
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<v Speaker 1>ninety nine? What do they normally go for.

637
00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:48.799
<v Speaker 2>At only seven hundred bucks? I have to look to

638
00:32:48.799 --> 00:32:51.200
<v Speaker 2>see if going for Amazon. Right now, let's look Amazon,

639
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<v Speaker 2>Let's see what she's got.

640
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<v Speaker 1>I know that in you know, southern Arizona, we deal

641
00:32:55.880 --> 00:32:59.680
<v Speaker 1>with monsoons quite a bit and we've had those situations

642
00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:02.359
<v Speaker 1>where you we've lost power for an extended period of time.

643
00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:04.799
<v Speaker 1>This would be pretty good to have around. I mean,

644
00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:07.759
<v Speaker 1>ups these are great, but again those are you know,

645
00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:11.599
<v Speaker 1>most UPS's are designed so that'll give you time to

646
00:33:11.640 --> 00:33:14.839
<v Speaker 1>shut down your computer systems so you don't have any

647
00:33:14.920 --> 00:33:17.400
<v Speaker 1>data corruption or whatnot. This is a way to go

648
00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:19.640
<v Speaker 1>beyond that and actually power your stuff.

649
00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:23.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you could obviously have it plugged into power

650
00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:27.720
<v Speaker 2>and be feeding it off the AC side. So if

651
00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:30.680
<v Speaker 2>you wanted to treat this as a UPS you really

652
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:35.640
<v Speaker 2>could and dry your power from the AC side while

653
00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:38.880
<v Speaker 2>still plugged in charging. I wouldn't recommend that. It's just

654
00:33:38.880 --> 00:33:41.319
<v Speaker 2>gonna yeah, yeah, decrease the LFE of the battery, but

655
00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:44.480
<v Speaker 2>they are six ninety nine.

656
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<v Speaker 1>That's still not bad. I mean it's something to have,

657
00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:51.599
<v Speaker 1>and they the battery in that will continue to last.

658
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:54.799
<v Speaker 1>You just recharge it. It's not like disposable. Once it's done,

659
00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:56.880
<v Speaker 1>it's done. No, that doesn't work that way.

660
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But what I also like too is on the

661
00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:02.920
<v Speaker 2>side I didn't notice before it, but there are quarter

662
00:34:03.039 --> 00:34:06.960
<v Speaker 2>twenty right mounting holes here, so like I could mount

663
00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:10.719
<v Speaker 2>tripod arms or other pieces on here. I could mount

664
00:34:10.840 --> 00:34:13.599
<v Speaker 2>things on here with the quarter twenty mounts like a

665
00:34:13.719 --> 00:34:16.960
<v Speaker 2>ramball mount too. I could put an accessory on or

666
00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:21.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, so there are mounting options available quarter twenty

667
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:25.119
<v Speaker 2>on the side so you can put. Wow, I don't

668
00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:26.760
<v Speaker 2>even know what you want to mount on there, but

669
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<v Speaker 2>like I can imagine like maybe mounting an umbrella or

670
00:34:32.199 --> 00:34:35.800
<v Speaker 2>all holder for your phone or some other piece of

671
00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:38.519
<v Speaker 2>hardware you'd want to mount it.

672
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<v Speaker 1>When it comes to the power banks, if you don't

673
00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:45.239
<v Speaker 1>charge it, obviously you're not going to get a full

674
00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:48.800
<v Speaker 1>charge out of it. When you do a full charge

675
00:34:48.800 --> 00:34:50.639
<v Speaker 1>on it and you just put it aside and you're

676
00:34:50.679 --> 00:34:54.239
<v Speaker 1>not using it, does it retain that or over time

677
00:34:54.280 --> 00:34:56.920
<v Speaker 1>does it tend to just dwindle up? So we've seen

678
00:34:56.960 --> 00:34:58.719
<v Speaker 1>some devices actually go pretty quick.

679
00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:03.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, So this is the newer chemistry, right, the life

680
00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:11.320
<v Speaker 2>lithium iron phosphate, lithium iron light life PO four Okay,

681
00:35:11.400 --> 00:35:15.199
<v Speaker 2>lithium iron phoss whatever it's called life life PO for

682
00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:18.400
<v Speaker 2>you'll see, that's the newest kind of chemistry for these

683
00:35:18.440 --> 00:35:21.079
<v Speaker 2>types of batteries. And that's what's in here, right, So

684
00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:25.039
<v Speaker 2>I know, so that the chemistry is made to retain

685
00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:28.960
<v Speaker 2>its charge better, it can have a higher amp draw

686
00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:32.480
<v Speaker 2>on it, and it can also use more of the

687
00:35:33.119 --> 00:35:36.400
<v Speaker 2>total capacity of the battery without having to be recharged.

688
00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:42.280
<v Speaker 2>So I just also for my camper, UH just bought

689
00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:47.559
<v Speaker 2>a new one hundred amp hower battery for my twelve

690
00:35:47.599 --> 00:35:49.960
<v Speaker 2>volt battery for the camper with the new solar charger,

691
00:35:50.440 --> 00:35:53.639
<v Speaker 2>plus another one hundred solar panel for that also so

692
00:35:53.679 --> 00:35:56.239
<v Speaker 2>that I can have that or camping in addition to this.

693
00:35:57.159 --> 00:36:00.760
<v Speaker 2>So off the grid, we'll go there, you go, not really,

694
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:03.400
<v Speaker 2>but we're gonna be able to survive a little bit

695
00:36:03.400 --> 00:36:04.599
<v Speaker 2>without running the gas.

696
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<v Speaker 1>Janitor, this was your first chance to really put it

697
00:36:06.840 --> 00:36:09.920
<v Speaker 1>through the big trial, and you're you're very happy with that, then, yeah.

698
00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:12.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean it was. I just went and got it,

699
00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:14.679
<v Speaker 2>turned it on, plugged in a lamp, and then ran

700
00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:18.320
<v Speaker 2>an extension cord over to the UPS that was powering

701
00:36:18.400 --> 00:36:23.920
<v Speaker 2>my my internet router and my motem and my TV

702
00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:27.760
<v Speaker 2>and we had zero issues with staying connected. Uh and

703
00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:31.679
<v Speaker 2>Max getting his YouTube fix. That's great during the power So.

704
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<v Speaker 1>That's great because you know the kids, they need to

705
00:36:33.639 --> 00:36:34.239
<v Speaker 1>be entertained.

706
00:36:35.679 --> 00:36:39.960
<v Speaker 2>But it's funny because Max we had to explain to

707
00:36:40.079 --> 00:36:44.079
<v Speaker 2>like the powers out, like YouTube doesn't work, and the

708
00:36:44.159 --> 00:36:45.920
<v Speaker 2>lights in his room didn't work, so like his his

709
00:36:46.159 --> 00:36:49.639
<v Speaker 2>moon nightlight wasn't working, the hatch wasn't working, so like

710
00:36:49.679 --> 00:36:51.440
<v Speaker 2>he didn't have so it was a lot more quiet

711
00:36:51.519 --> 00:36:53.480
<v Speaker 2>in his room, like he didn't have the sound you know,

712
00:36:53.559 --> 00:36:57.320
<v Speaker 2>the white noise machine. Right, so that like the next

713
00:36:57.400 --> 00:36:59.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, the next night where we had power, when

714
00:36:59.880 --> 00:37:02.119
<v Speaker 2>he turned the light on his room, he got excited. Oh,

715
00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:05.159
<v Speaker 2>the power's back, Like he understood that we didn't have power.

716
00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:07.280
<v Speaker 2>Now it's back and the light works on power. So

717
00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:09.480
<v Speaker 2>it was kind of a cool experience for him to see,

718
00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:13.360
<v Speaker 2>like power is required for a lot of the stuff

719
00:37:13.360 --> 00:37:15.000
<v Speaker 2>that makes life convenient for us.

720
00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:19.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, all right. I wanted to mention zd net

721
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<v Speaker 1>and Ed Bott has been on this show before. We

722
00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:27.239
<v Speaker 1>had to Ed on gosh early early on tech Talk Radio,

723
00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:32.199
<v Speaker 1>and Ed talked about the deals he's been talking about

724
00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:35.559
<v Speaker 1>the deals with Windows eleven and Windows ten. There is

725
00:37:35.599 --> 00:37:37.599
<v Speaker 1>a great article from Ed if you go to zd

726
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:42.519
<v Speaker 1>net about how to if you can still do it,

727
00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:46.039
<v Speaker 1>go from Windows ten to Windows eleven. Now October is

728
00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:51.119
<v Speaker 1>when support for Windows ten will end. It does not

729
00:37:51.239 --> 00:37:54.239
<v Speaker 1>mean your Windows ten computer will stop working. There'll be

730
00:37:54.280 --> 00:37:56.840
<v Speaker 1>a paid support version if you feel like doing that.

731
00:37:57.760 --> 00:37:59.480
<v Speaker 1>But again some people have said, I, well, I was

732
00:37:59.559 --> 00:38:01.760
<v Speaker 1>just wat upgrade my computer. You know, if I could

733
00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:04.079
<v Speaker 1>have upgraded my computer in the studio from ten to

734
00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:08.400
<v Speaker 1>eleven easily, I wouldn't have lost some software that I

735
00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:11.159
<v Speaker 1>needed to do that. So right now, that Windows eleven

736
00:38:11.199 --> 00:38:14.360
<v Speaker 1>machine I built, it's just sitting in the corner because

737
00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:16.559
<v Speaker 1>I can't put the software on that to get it

738
00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:18.199
<v Speaker 1>to work for what I need to do in here.

739
00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:21.719
<v Speaker 1>But zd net also had a story this week about

740
00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:25.119
<v Speaker 1>some of the problems that Microsoft is running into and

741
00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:28.079
<v Speaker 1>it just makes you wonder what's going on there with

742
00:38:28.199 --> 00:38:29.840
<v Speaker 1>a patch that they had put out and it caused

743
00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:30.880
<v Speaker 1>some problems.

744
00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:36.000
<v Speaker 2>They the Microsoft has been shooting himself in the foot.

745
00:38:36.239 --> 00:38:37.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

746
00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:40.440
<v Speaker 2>First it was the recall stuff with you know, hey,

747
00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:43.519
<v Speaker 2>we're going to snapshot your computer every two minutes and

748
00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:47.639
<v Speaker 2>upload it to the cloud. No you're not, You're not

749
00:38:47.639 --> 00:38:50.719
<v Speaker 2>not in my computer. And then they had issues with

750
00:38:51.280 --> 00:38:57.920
<v Speaker 2>USB devices in a recent patch, and now they're all

751
00:38:57.920 --> 00:39:01.320
<v Speaker 2>claiming it's for security. But there's a new patch that

752
00:39:01.400 --> 00:39:08.239
<v Speaker 2>came out for Windows eleven twenty four h two that

753
00:39:08.239 --> 00:39:11.800
<v Speaker 2>created what what they're calling a mysterious empty folder.

754
00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:15.760
<v Speaker 1>The folder is called pub say I've seen.

755
00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:20.360
<v Speaker 2>It, yeah, And apparently that folder is there to spoof

756
00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:25.079
<v Speaker 2>malware into trying to take control of this folder. I

757
00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:27.880
<v Speaker 2>don't know, but if you but if you delete that

758
00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:29.719
<v Speaker 2>folder because you don't know what it is and don't

759
00:39:29.719 --> 00:39:32.719
<v Speaker 2>know where it came from, good luck with your future

760
00:39:32.760 --> 00:39:35.960
<v Speaker 2>Windows updates, because it will could cause problems because it's

761
00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:38.480
<v Speaker 2>looking for that folder. It doesn't know where that folder is,

762
00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:40.480
<v Speaker 2>and you who knows what problems you're gonna start having.

763
00:39:40.760 --> 00:39:42.800
<v Speaker 2>It's like somebody telling you to go and delete your

764
00:39:42.840 --> 00:39:43.880
<v Speaker 2>system thirty two folder.

765
00:39:44.159 --> 00:39:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, not good. Yeah, no, don't do that, by

766
00:39:47.960 --> 00:39:49.239
<v Speaker 1>the way, Yeah, please don't.

767
00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:54.039
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it's just Windows. I mean, it's it's it's

768
00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:59.559
<v Speaker 2>it's gotta be hard to release software that is so

769
00:39:59.800 --> 00:40:02.679
<v Speaker 2>ma consumed around the world, right, in so many different

770
00:40:02.719 --> 00:40:06.960
<v Speaker 2>languages and so many different platforms, in so many different scenarios.

771
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:07.360
<v Speaker 1>So many different pieces.

772
00:40:08.639 --> 00:40:12.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so many mission critical places. Right, You're never going

773
00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:15.119
<v Speaker 2>to catch every little bug. But I mean, come on,

774
00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:21.079
<v Speaker 2>it's it's it's just it's unacceptable. Things like the USB

775
00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:23.280
<v Speaker 2>driver issues, where if you upgraded and all of a

776
00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:26.559
<v Speaker 2>sudden you just don't have USB, your USB devices aren't

777
00:40:26.559 --> 00:40:27.719
<v Speaker 2>going to work anymore.

778
00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:30.119
<v Speaker 1>I think that's our shared folders that we have from

779
00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:33.039
<v Speaker 1>one office to to another. They went away once we

780
00:40:33.079 --> 00:40:34.000
<v Speaker 1>went to Windows eleven.

781
00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:38.599
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I mean, I just don't know and like

782
00:40:39.679 --> 00:40:43.280
<v Speaker 2>and then Microsoft telling you, oh, yeah, by the way,

783
00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:46.360
<v Speaker 2>you are not going to be able to create a window.

784
00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:49.360
<v Speaker 2>You're not gonna be able to install Windows anymore without

785
00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:52.679
<v Speaker 2>creating an account, and you can't use the super secret

786
00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:57.360
<v Speaker 2>code to bypass the log in anymore. You have to Yeah,

787
00:40:57.440 --> 00:41:00.800
<v Speaker 2>you have to create account with Microsoft to install Windows,

788
00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:04.039
<v Speaker 2>which is a bunch of bs in my opinion. And

789
00:41:04.760 --> 00:41:07.360
<v Speaker 2>because I just talked about this building, you know, building

790
00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:11.400
<v Speaker 2>the PC for my in laws their laptop, and the

791
00:41:11.440 --> 00:41:13.960
<v Speaker 2>code didn't work, so maybe I got an early version

792
00:41:14.039 --> 00:41:16.559
<v Speaker 2>of that that were that code didn't work anymore, and

793
00:41:16.599 --> 00:41:20.159
<v Speaker 2>I had to build them a profile using his his

794
00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:23.840
<v Speaker 2>hotmail or his Gmail account through Microsoft, and then it

795
00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:26.800
<v Speaker 2>created them having the one drive desktop and then he

796
00:41:26.840 --> 00:41:29.039
<v Speaker 2>put all his files on there. It was out of space.

797
00:41:29.079 --> 00:41:31.039
<v Speaker 1>It was as Yeah, it was a mess.

798
00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:35.519
<v Speaker 2>So like, just give me an operating system, let me decide,

799
00:41:36.079 --> 00:41:39.480
<v Speaker 2>let me decide what I want to do. Yeah, I

800
00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:41.559
<v Speaker 2>paid I paid for it. I paid for Windows. Like,

801
00:41:41.599 --> 00:41:43.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying this because I got a free upgrade

802
00:41:43.960 --> 00:41:47.519
<v Speaker 2>to Windows eleven. I paid for I've paid for two

803
00:41:47.639 --> 00:41:50.760
<v Speaker 2>Windows eleven pro versions. Now yep, because I want one.

804
00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:54.159
<v Speaker 2>I have one on my play around machine, and I

805
00:41:54.159 --> 00:41:56.119
<v Speaker 2>have one on my gaming lots on my gaming PC,

806
00:41:56.480 --> 00:41:58.800
<v Speaker 2>like I want to have the features that are included

807
00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:02.519
<v Speaker 2>with one is eleven Pro. But dear God, make it

808
00:42:02.559 --> 00:42:04.880
<v Speaker 2>a little easier for me to do what I want

809
00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:06.960
<v Speaker 2>to do without having to sign up and give you

810
00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:09.760
<v Speaker 2>all my data. I don't care like I'm paying you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. All right, listen, we got to take another break.

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<v Speaker 1>forward slash tech Talkers. So this one from Christy in

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<v Speaker 1>Tucson said, Hey guys, I listened to your show whenever

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<v Speaker 1>I can, but I just got an email about renewing

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<v Speaker 1>my anti virus program Norton three sixty. It's one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and nineteen bucks to renew and protect my five machines. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>thinking is it worth it? What could be my options?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you Christy and Tucson. Oh boy, this one. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we've kind of talked a little bit about this

840
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<v Speaker 1>in the past because I know you have different views

841
00:43:33.920 --> 00:43:35.800
<v Speaker 1>of what might be better than Norton.

842
00:43:35.960 --> 00:43:40.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I mean I've used I've used different anaviruses

843
00:43:40.519 --> 00:43:44.000
<v Speaker 2>over the years, right, Yeah, and it's not always been

844
00:43:44.840 --> 00:43:47.840
<v Speaker 2>just antivirus, right, it's also an anti malware.

845
00:43:47.920 --> 00:43:48.039
<v Speaker 1>Right.

846
00:43:48.079 --> 00:43:51.320
<v Speaker 2>First, with antivirus, because nobody really knew what malaur was. Yeah,

847
00:43:51.360 --> 00:43:54.159
<v Speaker 2>you had trojan horses, you had virus attacks, so those things.

848
00:43:54.480 --> 00:44:01.880
<v Speaker 2>So everybody either had Norton. McAfee caster Scott set E set,

849
00:44:02.400 --> 00:44:07.000
<v Speaker 2>they're all they all do their job. But in the

850
00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:12.239
<v Speaker 2>age of security, Windows has gotten a lot better. And

851
00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:16.519
<v Speaker 2>I would recommend, and I think Justin and Matt let's

852
00:44:16.519 --> 00:44:20.639
<v Speaker 2>speak for this, and they're both IT professionals. You can

853
00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:25.480
<v Speaker 2>really be secure without spending money just running Windows Defender.

854
00:44:25.760 --> 00:44:27.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously, don't go in and turn your firewall

855
00:44:27.800 --> 00:44:30.159
<v Speaker 2>off and allow every port to be able to be

856
00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:33.039
<v Speaker 2>scanned on your computer and blah blah blah blah. By default,

857
00:44:33.119 --> 00:44:35.400
<v Speaker 2>a lot of that is turned off. By default. They're

858
00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:39.320
<v Speaker 2>protecting the users that don't know any better. But that

859
00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:42.199
<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean run unprotected and you know, grow surfing around

860
00:44:42.199 --> 00:44:47.679
<v Speaker 2>the web unprotected. Yeah, my recommendation is if you want

861
00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:50.920
<v Speaker 2>a little extra protection is you get malware bites. Malware

862
00:44:50.920 --> 00:44:53.199
<v Speaker 2>bytes is a malware program that will run and scan

863
00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:56.199
<v Speaker 2>and do things, and it's there there. It's run at

864
00:44:56.199 --> 00:44:59.199
<v Speaker 2>the enterprise level in a lot of places, so not

865
00:44:59.320 --> 00:45:04.320
<v Speaker 2>just personal. And so I run personally, I run malware

866
00:45:04.360 --> 00:45:07.519
<v Speaker 2>bites and it protects my PC.

867
00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:10.519
<v Speaker 1>We've even had it come up. You go to a

868
00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:14.280
<v Speaker 1>website that's a legitimate website, they're feeding an AD and

869
00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:19.800
<v Speaker 1>the AD has malware features in that ad. Malware bites

870
00:45:19.800 --> 00:45:23.159
<v Speaker 1>will flag it. It does a good job. So yeah,

871
00:45:23.800 --> 00:45:24.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at.

872
00:45:24.599 --> 00:45:29.000
<v Speaker 2>To see what malur bytes would be to include multiple devices.

873
00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:33.039
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, that's the thing. Norton's deal and I'm on Norton.

874
00:45:33.679 --> 00:45:37.039
<v Speaker 1>Norton's steal is five machines. I know that for a fact,

875
00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:38.960
<v Speaker 1>and yet it is about one hundred nineteen bucks to

876
00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:42.679
<v Speaker 1>renew it. One thing about Norton three sixty if you know,

877
00:45:42.800 --> 00:45:47.400
<v Speaker 1>it's it's been a good antivirus program, but it's very naggy.

878
00:45:47.880 --> 00:45:51.599
<v Speaker 1>So you pop in a you know, an expanded drive,

879
00:45:51.639 --> 00:45:53.519
<v Speaker 1>it wants to search it for you. You get pop

880
00:45:53.639 --> 00:45:56.280
<v Speaker 1>ups all the time about would you like to do this?

881
00:45:56.400 --> 00:45:58.239
<v Speaker 1>Would you like to do that? It will try to

882
00:45:58.320 --> 00:46:03.679
<v Speaker 1>sell you add ons like LifeLock, which Symantec Norton owns,

883
00:46:03.920 --> 00:46:05.760
<v Speaker 1>so it'll try and you know, sell you for a

884
00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:08.880
<v Speaker 1>membership in that to protect yourself for that information and

885
00:46:08.880 --> 00:46:10.920
<v Speaker 1>get out there on the web. Again, I'm not saying

886
00:46:10.920 --> 00:46:13.360
<v Speaker 1>it's a bad program. We've had representatives on the show.

887
00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:16.800
<v Speaker 1>I like it, but there are other options. Now, what

888
00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:17.880
<v Speaker 1>were you able to find out?

889
00:46:18.639 --> 00:46:23.199
<v Speaker 2>So I have the standard plan for melerbyites, right, and

890
00:46:23.400 --> 00:46:25.440
<v Speaker 2>it's just one device, So I'm only running it on

891
00:46:25.599 --> 00:46:27.159
<v Speaker 2>just my PC. I thought I was running it on

892
00:46:27.239 --> 00:46:30.719
<v Speaker 2>more but just one, and I think I pay like

893
00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:31.840
<v Speaker 2>six bucks a month.

894
00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:35.679
<v Speaker 1>That's not bad, Yeah, if I wanted to do so.

895
00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:37.719
<v Speaker 2>I just bumped it up to the next the plus

896
00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:40.000
<v Speaker 2>plan with five devices, so that would equal what she

897
00:46:40.159 --> 00:46:44.519
<v Speaker 2>has for her Norton and it's sixteen sixteen twenty eight

898
00:46:44.559 --> 00:46:47.400
<v Speaker 2>a month for five devices. That gives you the security,

899
00:46:48.039 --> 00:46:50.760
<v Speaker 2>the browser guard which runs in the background basically looks

900
00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:51.719
<v Speaker 2>at ads and all that stuff.

901
00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:54.920
<v Speaker 1>So it's actually more expensive than Norton three sixty for

902
00:46:54.960 --> 00:46:55.559
<v Speaker 1>the five.

903
00:46:56.079 --> 00:46:58.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that also gives you the VPN. I don't

904
00:46:58.039 --> 00:47:00.840
<v Speaker 2>know if the Norton three sixty gives you in Norton VPN.

905
00:47:01.239 --> 00:47:05.519
<v Speaker 2>So I mean you're it's apples and apples at this point.

906
00:47:05.880 --> 00:47:08.840
<v Speaker 2>I just know that Norton does not always have the

907
00:47:08.840 --> 00:47:11.719
<v Speaker 2>best reputation in the industry. It's good, But you said,

908
00:47:11.760 --> 00:47:14.480
<v Speaker 2>I prefer melourbites just just because that's what I'm used to.

909
00:47:14.559 --> 00:47:16.480
<v Speaker 2>It's what we use at the university, it's what I've

910
00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:19.559
<v Speaker 2>used at other places i've worked. There are plenty of

911
00:47:19.639 --> 00:47:25.760
<v Speaker 2>options out there, right, just try to avoid the free ones.

912
00:47:26.320 --> 00:47:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, try to avoid what was the other there

913
00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:33.920
<v Speaker 1>was another one that began with an A I can't

914
00:47:33.960 --> 00:47:35.000
<v Speaker 1>remember the name of it.

915
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:39.199
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember either, but yeah, just try to avoid

916
00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:41.079
<v Speaker 2>the free ones because they'll try and get the try

917
00:47:41.079 --> 00:47:43.719
<v Speaker 2>and hook you into well just scan your PC and

918
00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:49.880
<v Speaker 2>paid five a month or And I still personally like

919
00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:51.039
<v Speaker 2>running sea cleaner.

920
00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:55.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've heard different about that where people some people

921
00:47:55.760 --> 00:47:58.079
<v Speaker 1>say CE sea cleaner is great. I'll just will say

922
00:47:58.119 --> 00:47:59.199
<v Speaker 1>it created a nightmare.

923
00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:02.079
<v Speaker 2>I have not had any issues with it. I use

924
00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:04.840
<v Speaker 2>it just to do just registery clean up and some

925
00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:08.840
<v Speaker 2>they have a really great uninstallation tool in their program

926
00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:11.039
<v Speaker 2>where you can just uninstall programs really quickly through that.

927
00:48:11.119 --> 00:48:13.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean you can do that now with Windows. It's

928
00:48:13.000 --> 00:48:15.679
<v Speaker 2>gotten better in Windows before where you had to just

929
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:17.519
<v Speaker 2>to try and fight all the install files.

930
00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:20.159
<v Speaker 1>And some of these companies though, will put a lot

931
00:48:20.199 --> 00:48:23.280
<v Speaker 1>of files in different places, and from what I've heard,

932
00:48:23.320 --> 00:48:25.440
<v Speaker 1>CC cleaner can go in there and do that.

933
00:48:26.559 --> 00:48:30.320
<v Speaker 2>But I will say that CC cleaner has not had

934
00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:35.679
<v Speaker 2>the greatest security record about I want this has probably

935
00:48:35.679 --> 00:48:39.639
<v Speaker 2>been about six or seven years now. They actually delivered

936
00:48:40.519 --> 00:48:47.800
<v Speaker 2>an update to CCA Cleaner that was malware. A Iranian

937
00:48:48.960 --> 00:48:51.760
<v Speaker 2>hacker team was able to get into the back end

938
00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:55.480
<v Speaker 2>and attached malware to the install file for Seat Cleaner.

939
00:48:55.519 --> 00:48:58.559
<v Speaker 2>So everybody that did the update that version of Sea

940
00:48:58.599 --> 00:48:59.760
<v Speaker 2>Cleaner got malware.

941
00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:00.679
<v Speaker 1>Not good.

942
00:49:01.280 --> 00:49:03.280
<v Speaker 2>So all right, not good for security company.

943
00:49:03.000 --> 00:49:06.079
<v Speaker 1>But so for Christy, you recommend malwour bites as one

944
00:49:06.119 --> 00:49:06.639
<v Speaker 1>to look at.

945
00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:09.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, malwaar bites. And then if you really want to

946
00:49:09.360 --> 00:49:11.320
<v Speaker 2>do a deep skin or a deep dive on your machine,

947
00:49:11.320 --> 00:49:15.360
<v Speaker 2>spybot search and destroy is a good one. Just avoid

948
00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:17.320
<v Speaker 2>the free ones. I mean, you could pay for Norton.

949
00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:20.119
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be you know, like I said, six one

950
00:49:20.119 --> 00:49:23.079
<v Speaker 2>way half it does the other. If you're still using Norton,

951
00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:25.400
<v Speaker 2>you're comfortable with dead it's already on your devices. Go

952
00:49:25.440 --> 00:49:28.159
<v Speaker 2>with Norton. It's not gonna hurt anything, all right. Malwaur

953
00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:30.239
<v Speaker 2>bites is just kind of another alternative.

954
00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:32.119
<v Speaker 1>Do you want to pick that? Next question that we got?

955
00:49:32.840 --> 00:49:36.639
<v Speaker 1>The next question is, okay, this is a fun one,

956
00:49:36.719 --> 00:49:37.159
<v Speaker 1>all right.

957
00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:40.719
<v Speaker 2>I found a folder on my computer that had everything

958
00:49:41.119 --> 00:49:42.280
<v Speaker 2>that had a bunch.

959
00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Of flash videos flash videos.

960
00:49:44.679 --> 00:49:46.920
<v Speaker 2>When I click on them, I can't do anything because

961
00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:49.360
<v Speaker 2>I no longer have flash on my computer. Okay, there

962
00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:50.400
<v Speaker 2>are a way to see.

963
00:49:50.159 --> 00:49:53.519
<v Speaker 1>These, that's flv's right, isn't that good question?

964
00:49:53.760 --> 00:49:55.440
<v Speaker 2>Bill Chandler from Arizona.

965
00:49:55.519 --> 00:49:57.679
<v Speaker 1>No, it's actually Bill from Chandler, Arizona.

966
00:49:58.159 --> 00:49:59.840
<v Speaker 2>Bill from Chandler, Arizona.

967
00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:03.599
<v Speaker 1>Thank you Bill, Sorry, grammar is important.

968
00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:07.199
<v Speaker 2>You put this in there. Andy, it looks like Chandler

969
00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:07.840
<v Speaker 2>from Arizona.

970
00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:14.320
<v Speaker 1>Yes. Uh so flash videos flv's uh yeah, flash was big.

971
00:50:14.440 --> 00:50:16.800
<v Speaker 1>It was one time everything. You went to a website,

972
00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:19.199
<v Speaker 1>if it didn't have flash, it was a letdown. If

973
00:50:19.199 --> 00:50:21.360
<v Speaker 1>it had flash, it was oh. But then they found

974
00:50:21.400 --> 00:50:23.920
<v Speaker 1>out there were a lot of problems with flash, and

975
00:50:24.159 --> 00:50:27.760
<v Speaker 1>people moved to word press or that type of technology.

976
00:50:28.039 --> 00:50:30.239
<v Speaker 1>You know flash. You go to a website now if

977
00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:33.039
<v Speaker 1>you still see you might see a placeholder it said

978
00:50:33.159 --> 00:50:35.960
<v Speaker 1>you know flash, and you're, oh boy, that needs an update.

979
00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:38.599
<v Speaker 1>What do you do? How do you watch a flash

980
00:50:38.679 --> 00:50:39.760
<v Speaker 1>video on your computer?

981
00:50:39.960 --> 00:50:41.599
<v Speaker 2>You have to you'd have to convert them.

982
00:50:41.800 --> 00:50:43.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean so.

983
00:50:44.440 --> 00:50:49.760
<v Speaker 2>I'll recommend my handy dandy web tool right handbreak, handbreak,

984
00:50:50.159 --> 00:50:54.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh well, handbreak are handbreak can convert flash videos?

985
00:50:54.280 --> 00:50:54.719
<v Speaker 1>All right?

986
00:50:55.280 --> 00:50:57.960
<v Speaker 2>You could probably find a lot of free converters online

987
00:50:58.000 --> 00:50:58.679
<v Speaker 2>for flash videos.

988
00:50:58.679 --> 00:51:03.920
<v Speaker 1>How about VLC. It might just play them, it may

989
00:51:03.960 --> 00:51:04.800
<v Speaker 1>not convert them.

990
00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:07.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it may it may not play them, it'll it'll Yeah.

991
00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:11.840
<v Speaker 2>Vlc is is probably the best media player in the world.

992
00:51:12.039 --> 00:51:16.320
<v Speaker 2>All Right, it's free, download it. It'll play literally anything

993
00:51:16.360 --> 00:51:16.800
<v Speaker 2>you give it.

994
00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:20.559
<v Speaker 1>Just be careful where you get it from, but make.

995
00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:22.840
<v Speaker 2>Sure you get it from there from their website.

996
00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:25.960
<v Speaker 1>All Right, we got to take another quick break to

997
00:51:26.000 --> 00:51:28.280
<v Speaker 1>see it one of those. All right, Bill Chandler or

998
00:51:28.320 --> 00:51:31.760
<v Speaker 1>Bill from Chandler Arizona. Hopefully that helped you. But take

999
00:51:31.760 --> 00:51:33.840
<v Speaker 1>a look at LC if you want to convert them.

1000
00:51:33.880 --> 00:51:37.440
<v Speaker 1>I know Movavi does that. Handbreak is great because that's

1001
00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:39.199
<v Speaker 1>a free one, and then you may be able to

1002
00:51:39.239 --> 00:51:41.880
<v Speaker 1>go a little deeper into handbreak and find out how

1003
00:51:41.920 --> 00:51:45.360
<v Speaker 1>to maybe rip your DVDs that you own that you

1004
00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:47.840
<v Speaker 1>can have digital copies of them. It's a great, great

1005
00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:49.800
<v Speaker 1>way to use that program. All Right, we'll be back

1006
00:51:49.800 --> 00:51:51.800
<v Speaker 1>with more of tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor.

1007
00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:54.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm sean to Whirred. Follow us on x at tech

1008
00:51:54.719 --> 00:51:55.239
<v Speaker 2>Talk Radio.

1009
00:51:55.519 --> 00:51:58.039
<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back on television. This past week I

1010
00:51:58.119 --> 00:52:01.920
<v Speaker 1>got a chance to share something really cool, the slim,

1011
00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:06.639
<v Speaker 1>small design keyboard from Logitech called the Keys to Go to.

1012
00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:12.159
<v Speaker 1>It connects to your smartphone, whether it be an Android

1013
00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:17.920
<v Speaker 1>or an iPhone, your laptop, your desktop, your any device

1014
00:52:17.960 --> 00:52:21.679
<v Speaker 1>that can accept the Bluetooth connection. Keyboard, and it could

1015
00:52:21.679 --> 00:52:24.079
<v Speaker 1>be folded and stored away. Matter of fact, it's small

1016
00:52:24.199 --> 00:52:26.599
<v Speaker 1>enough that you could fold it and put it in

1017
00:52:26.639 --> 00:52:30.239
<v Speaker 1>your jacket pocket, your inside jacket pocket. So when you

1018
00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:32.760
<v Speaker 1>need a keyboard, you've got it. The only thing is

1019
00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:35.519
<v Speaker 1>some people have said, well, wait a minute. It retails

1020
00:52:35.519 --> 00:52:38.320
<v Speaker 1>for about seventy nine bucks, but the K four to

1021
00:52:38.400 --> 00:52:42.159
<v Speaker 1>eighty from Logitech is cheaper. You may be able to

1022
00:52:42.159 --> 00:52:45.400
<v Speaker 1>find that for around forty five fifty dollars, and they

1023
00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:48.719
<v Speaker 1>both have Bluetooth. They both have a selector switch, so

1024
00:52:48.800 --> 00:52:51.159
<v Speaker 1>you can switch it from Bluetooth one, two or three.

1025
00:52:51.440 --> 00:52:53.119
<v Speaker 1>So say you've got your smartphone in front of you,

1026
00:52:53.280 --> 00:52:55.920
<v Speaker 1>you got a tablet, you want to control the tablet,

1027
00:52:56.000 --> 00:52:58.800
<v Speaker 1>you just flip the switch and you can control the tablet.

1028
00:52:58.840 --> 00:53:01.519
<v Speaker 1>Flip it to the other one. You can control your smartphone.

1029
00:53:01.679 --> 00:53:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Now your smartphone will work good on that well, if

1030
00:53:05.880 --> 00:53:09.000
<v Speaker 1>you use a Google Docs or something along that line,

1031
00:53:09.119 --> 00:53:11.920
<v Speaker 1>you want to type, or you're using you know, your

1032
00:53:11.960 --> 00:53:15.480
<v Speaker 1>notes in your your iPhone. Either way, you might take

1033
00:53:15.480 --> 00:53:16.920
<v Speaker 1>a look at it. If you haven't seen it yet.

1034
00:53:17.079 --> 00:53:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Again that's from Logitech. The keys to go to pretty

1035
00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:22.000
<v Speaker 1>good stuff. I don't I don't know. I like the

1036
00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:24.519
<v Speaker 1>K four eighty because it's got a little rest there.

1037
00:53:25.320 --> 00:53:27.400
<v Speaker 1>But that's what I showed on TV. I also showed

1038
00:53:27.400 --> 00:53:30.840
<v Speaker 1>it connected to a monitor and we used a J

1039
00:53:31.079 --> 00:53:36.639
<v Speaker 1>five create it's an HGMI USBC off my Android device

1040
00:53:37.079 --> 00:53:40.360
<v Speaker 1>to actually put put our smartphone away and use a

1041
00:53:40.360 --> 00:53:43.599
<v Speaker 1>bigger monitor use that keyboard. And it was actually pretty

1042
00:53:43.639 --> 00:53:44.440
<v Speaker 1>pretty cool thing.

1043
00:53:44.760 --> 00:53:47.519
<v Speaker 2>So I mean this, I just I didn't know about this,

1044
00:53:47.599 --> 00:53:49.559
<v Speaker 2>so I just looked it up. This it's pretty cool.

1045
00:53:49.559 --> 00:53:52.119
<v Speaker 1>It's tiny, It's really small, and it's got to cover

1046
00:53:52.239 --> 00:53:54.239
<v Speaker 1>on it, so you could close it up and again

1047
00:53:54.320 --> 00:53:56.280
<v Speaker 1>put it in your laptop bag or put it into

1048
00:53:56.280 --> 00:53:59.719
<v Speaker 1>your your your your jacket pocket if you're wearing a

1049
00:53:59.760 --> 00:54:01.320
<v Speaker 1>jacket pocket or your and there's.

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<v Speaker 2>There's some different colors you can get. It's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I mean this would.

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<v Speaker 2>Be great, like if you're traveling and you have a

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<v Speaker 2>laptop and you don't want to use the laptop keyboard, Graphite,

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<v Speaker 2>pale gray, and lilac.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go. You can find out more lunch tech

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. That wraps it up for this week's Tech

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<v Speaker 1>Talk Radio Thank you for tuning in. Tell your friends

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<v Speaker 1>about it that they can see us on the web

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<v Speaker 1>at tech talk radio dot com. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Sean to Weird.

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<v Speaker 2>You can find us on the web, like Andy said,

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<v Speaker 2>at TikTok radio dot com. Thank you. We'll talk to

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<v Speaker 2>you next week, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Take care,