Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to Raised by Giants ten K
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Speaker 2: Panel, honored, honored, honored, my friend. It humbled me. I
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Speaker 1: Wayne. I hope that it does. I hope everything comes easier,
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Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, they ripped a lot of subscribers from you,
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Speaker 1: Charlie Robinson, Welcome back to the show. How's it going?
Speaker 4: Well, it is true. I do live right by a
Speaker 4: Lockheed Martin facility. That is coincidental. I have nothing to
Speaker 4: do with the rocket launches or the summoning demons or
Speaker 4: whatever is going on over there. I just can see
Speaker 4: it from my from my desk, which is not the best.
Speaker 1: But wait, so you don't work out the underground base
Speaker 1: underd I a brow.
Speaker 4: But I'll tell you what. They have some fun with
Speaker 4: it when you go in and out of the Denver Airport.
Speaker 4: You know, everyone knows about the the paintings that were there.
Speaker 4: They've been relocated somewhere else. But they were doing renovation
Speaker 4: work on the main terminal and they had everything kind
Speaker 4: of walled off where they're where they're doing construction. And
Speaker 4: they did a really nice white wall with a silk
Speaker 4: screen image that was on it and it said and
Speaker 4: it had a picture of a lizard, a chameleon wearing
Speaker 4: a crown on its head and holding a scepter, and
Speaker 4: it gave you a multiple choice question and answer for
Speaker 4: what they're doing. Pardner Desk while we work on construction
Speaker 4: here to build out the a new underground base for
Speaker 4: the lizard people. That was the first one they put
Speaker 4: bu or new underground expanding the undergroundunnels and facilities, or
Speaker 4: see building you outstanding new restaurants and stores. I always
Speaker 4: wanted d all of the above. They didn't give that
Speaker 4: as an option. That would be the correct answer there.
Speaker 4: But they like to rub it in our faces, don't they.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Charlie. You go between Turminala and Terminal C,
Speaker 2: and there's a lot of offshoots to that tunnel down there, Yes,
Speaker 2: there are.
Speaker 3: I'm actually, I'm actually a guy that broke the whole story.
Speaker 3: I moved to I moved to a boulder in nineteen
Speaker 3: ninety six right when it was being done, and I
Speaker 3: heard I talked to some construction people and they told
Speaker 3: me that there was these elevators that go way down
Speaker 3: and you know, big freight elevators. And so I got
Speaker 3: on Westward, which is the magazine for the Denver area
Speaker 3: west World maybe not Westward, and I put an ad
Speaker 3: in saying with an eight hundred number, saying anybody had
Speaker 3: worked on it to give me a call keeping it
Speaker 3: in on us. I got like twenty calls, and then
Speaker 3: George Norri had me on right after that, and then
Speaker 3: I announced on George norriy and the whole world went
Speaker 3: completely crazy. Was the most amazing thing I've ever been
Speaker 3: involved in. And uh, I could tell you a whole
Speaker 3: bunch of stories I got. I was on a venture
Speaker 3: on jefse Venture's conspiracy theory, giving him a tour of
Speaker 3: the airport, and we were followed around by like fifteen
Speaker 3: airport cops who were watching us and filming us, and
Speaker 3: this was crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I remember watching Jay on a new what was it
Speaker 1: a local news station interviewed.
Speaker 3: For you, the Channel nine out of Denver.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Kim, And uh, what's that Mark coulbrit back
Speaker 2: in the day.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Well we got to talk about the demon horse too,
Speaker 2: I mean, of course, that damn thing.
Speaker 3: I mean, for a while, they had a Nubis looking
Speaker 3: through the window, a giant Anubis statue looking through the
Speaker 3: window right where the Freemason plaque is. So it's like, well, okay,
Speaker 3: we got an Egyptian god looking down on the free
Speaker 3: Masonic plaque and nobody can explain what this is about
Speaker 3: and who funded it and why is it here, and
Speaker 3: it's like, what.
Speaker 4: Times you got to know where to look? But yeah,
Speaker 4: you can find that New World Airport Commission plaque right
Speaker 4: next to if you're looking out the window towards the
Speaker 4: hotel that's now built between it and the and the horse.
Speaker 4: So I guess they got rid of the Egyptian god
Speaker 4: of death from the airport. Set your minds, you get
Speaker 4: on your airplane there.
Speaker 3: There is no New World Airport Commission. I looked for
Speaker 3: all over for it does not exist.
Speaker 2: They're the ones that's supposed to But nine billion dollars
Speaker 2: paid for the damn thing.
Speaker 3: Yep, when we over budget by like four billion, and
Speaker 3: they said it was like, so, I can't remember something
Speaker 3: about the baggage or something they had to fix. But
Speaker 3: one time I was driving to work in Denver right
Speaker 3: around this time period nineteen ninety eight or so. It
Speaker 3: was Halloween and the local DJs this is rock and
Speaker 3: roll radio station on my way to work. It was
Speaker 3: Halloween week, so they're looking at weird stuff in Denver, right,
Speaker 3: scary stuff in Denver, and they said tomorrow we're going
Speaker 3: to look at the Denver Airport. So I tuned in
Speaker 3: the next day and they literally without the guy knowing that,
Speaker 3: they called the head of the Denver Airport. They called
Speaker 3: him up right to his desk, and he answered the
Speaker 3: phone and says zip blah blah blah. He goes yeah,
Speaker 3: he goes, Hi, we're Bob and Ken with ah bah
Speaker 3: blah radio, and we wonder what if you could give
Speaker 3: us a tour of the secret underground base underneath the airport.
Speaker 3: The guy's like, don't ever call. I mean again.
Speaker 4: In poker, that's called to tell.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, Yeah, So you talked about those murals. I
Speaker 2: mean I was traveling and out of Denver. I lived
Speaker 2: in Highlands Ranch out there, but I remember the murals.
Speaker 2: I mean that was some strong negative psychic energy.
Speaker 3: Sure, well, I have a story about that. I talked
Speaker 3: to the artist who did those I can't remember his
Speaker 3: name now, was a Mexican guy, Mexican American, and in
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety seven he told me that he was told
Speaker 3: what to paint by the New World Airport Commission. And
Speaker 3: then he was interviewed again in I think two thousand
Speaker 3: and five by Westward magazine and he said, no, I
Speaker 3: came up with all those ideas myself. So I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, I.
Speaker 1: Mean the whole airport is just big for absolute no reason.
Speaker 1: Like the corridors and everything that you walk through, it's
Speaker 1: like so spatial. You could like walk for like fifteen
Speaker 1: twenty minutes like down some of those corridors and never
Speaker 1: run into one person. I did it. I was going on.
Speaker 4: I did a gro America interview with him. I had
Speaker 4: scheduled it was on my calendar that I was going
Speaker 4: to be doing it, and I also had a flight
Speaker 4: out of the IA to Vegas, and so I was like, well,
Speaker 4: i'll get there a couple hours early, I have a
Speaker 4: travel microphone, I'll set up a place and i'll just
Speaker 4: do it from you know, the lobby. Well, it was
Speaker 4: so loud with them announcing flights over and over again
Speaker 4: that I had to get into. I'd go upstairs one
Speaker 4: floor that I didn't even know existed if I went
Speaker 4: up there, and then I found a fire escape. So
Speaker 4: I opened that up and I did the entire episode
Speaker 4: in the in the staircase in where the fire escape was,
Speaker 4: with a travel microphone and my laptop set up there,
Speaker 4: just waiting for someone to come in and bust me,
Speaker 4: arrest me. Think I was, you know, Anthony bomb or
Speaker 4: doing something unsavory, but it was the only place they
Speaker 4: could go to get away from all the constant overhead
Speaker 4: flight announcements.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you ever look at it from Google Earth,
Speaker 3: the runways make it look like a giant swastika.
Speaker 4: I'm sure that's just a coincidence.
Speaker 2: Nothing to see here, move on. And then you got
Speaker 2: the mounds. As you're driving in from C. Four seventy
Speaker 2: and you've got these you think that they're hills, but
Speaker 2: they're actually the dirt that came. And you look at
Speaker 2: that airport and you look at the hills and you go,
Speaker 2: uh uh no, no, no, I can do enough math
Speaker 2: to figure this one out. You know that something is
Speaker 2: very deep down there, or very long or both.
Speaker 3: Well. Local farmers in the area say that during the
Speaker 3: building of it they saw not trucks going in, but
Speaker 3: trucks coming out filled with dirt. Every day, every ten minutes,
Speaker 3: another one would come out. And Yeah, if you go
Speaker 3: way out north and where the airport is, it just
Speaker 3: burns everywhere you see. They're just trucks dumping stuff. And
Speaker 3: I don't know what to do with it. And it
Speaker 3: truly is a strange place. And again, you know you're
Speaker 3: right in the middle of the country. It's it's part
Speaker 3: of the I can't remember the name of the operation,
Speaker 3: but it's the operation to keep the government going. That's
Speaker 3: what it's part of. And so everybody has kind of
Speaker 3: an equal shot of flying in right from the various
Speaker 3: places around. And then we know that they've hollowed out
Speaker 3: the mountain at Cheyenne, and they probably have hollowed out
Speaker 3: other mountains because why not. And so you go down
Speaker 3: there and you got on a train and they shoot
Speaker 3: you into a nuclear proof area inside the Rocky Mountains
Speaker 3: where there's a command center and soldiers and food and water,
Speaker 3: and are going to do that.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know that sounds like the plot of
Speaker 1: Space Force was Steve Carrell. Have you seen that show.
Speaker 1: It's like a comedy or whatever. But that's where it's
Speaker 1: like hidden inside of like a mountain in the in
Speaker 1: the Rocky Mountains. That's where they do the Space Force missions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's in uh, it's in Doctor Strange
Speaker 3: Love by Stanley Kubrick Peter Sellers. We have to build
Speaker 3: underground bases and take twenty women to each man so
Speaker 3: we can procreate.
Speaker 2: And you can't forget SG one. Yeah, yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: that you know Stargate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Stargate was a good show.
Speaker 2: I enjoyed that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, what do we think about these Epstein files here?
Speaker 1: We have any hope for them? Because a lot of
Speaker 1: the stuff was redacted in there, A lot of the
Speaker 1: client lists were redacted. I looked over the files. But
Speaker 1: they've been trying to push out that the people that
Speaker 1: are the contact list, Like there were several people on
Speaker 1: the contact list which people already knew about. That was
Speaker 1: already a thing. But they're trying to make the contact
Speaker 1: list be the client list when they're two separate things.
Speaker 1: And what do we think about that? Do we have
Speaker 1: any hope for it? This is supposedly with just one
Speaker 1: drop of three drops, if I'm not mistaken I remembering correctly.
Speaker 4: I'd like to see the videos, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And even then, I don't know that I would necessarily
Speaker 4: believe anything. I have no hope for this. I think
Speaker 4: that the people surrounding Trump are so loyal to Israel
Speaker 4: that you've got a real problem with them ever unmasking
Speaker 4: that component to it. I don't think they want to
Speaker 4: admit that Epstein worked for the US intelligence as well.
Speaker 4: That would be a huge stain on them if they
Speaker 4: were to have to confess to that. There's more, of course.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think the sexual blackmail entrapment operation obviously
Speaker 4: gets a lot of interest, and rightfully so. But there
Speaker 4: are other things that he was working on. He was
Speaker 4: running Ponzi schemes with Steven Hoffenberg, he was running arms.
Speaker 4: He was involved in some sort of weird eugenics program
Speaker 4: with Martin Noak at Harvard. Not totally sure what he
Speaker 4: was doing in New Mexico with Zoro Ranch, but it
Speaker 4: felt very talk about it underground facility, you know. I mean,
Speaker 4: you don't know what was going on there. So I
Speaker 4: think that it's great that the general public is learning
Speaker 4: that there's an Epstein like figure out there. He's not
Speaker 4: the only one. He won't be the last one. But
Speaker 4: if it only stops with the blackmail entrapment, then they're
Speaker 4: missing a lot of extra stuff that Epstein was involved in.
Speaker 4: That paints a picture of a guy who was very
Speaker 4: versatile in running financial scams and repurposing that money to
Speaker 4: institutions like Harvard, with thirty million dollars for Martin Oak
Speaker 4: to study evolutionary game theory right before a massive COVID
Speaker 4: pandemic situation going on.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I get I'd love for his entire catalog of work
Speaker 4: to get dragged out into the open. So I don't know.
Speaker 4: I guess if this is phase one, we're going to
Speaker 4: talk about what he was doing at at the mansion
Speaker 4: in New York, which coincidentally is directly next door to
Speaker 4: Trump's Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnix residents. Nine East seventy first
Speaker 4: Street was Epstein's address. Eleven East seventy first Street is
Speaker 4: Howard lutnex address. Literally next door neighbors to one another.
Speaker 4: Makes me think that I don't think a lot of
Speaker 4: the real juicy details of the Epstein files will see
Speaker 4: the light of day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally agree with that. I never thought they
Speaker 3: would get released. It was clearly a most CIA operation,
Speaker 3: and actually it's been going on since, by the way,
Speaker 3: since Meyer Lanski. He's the first guy to create the
Speaker 3: prostitution in San Francisco, New York, Chicago, bringing the cops
Speaker 3: and the judges and then film everybody behind a mirror
Speaker 3: with a sixteen milimeter camera. He once got up in
Speaker 3: front of the mob at a meeting and he had
Speaker 3: a Tommy gun on a tripod and a camera on
Speaker 3: a tripod. He said, what do you think is more powerful?
Speaker 3: And everybody chose the Tommy gun. He said, no, camera's
Speaker 3: more powerful, and that began the operation. They've been doing
Speaker 3: it ever since.
Speaker 1: Then.
Speaker 3: You're right, they've probably got another one going on right now.
Speaker 3: That's how they control it. The thing is, is that
Speaker 3: kind of either the Trump administration is a little bit
Speaker 3: pet Pam Bondi is a little bit amateur, or she
Speaker 3: doesn't really understand the gravity of what she's doing here
Speaker 3: or something. But she should never send out the telegrams
Speaker 3: out to the American people that she was going to
Speaker 3: release it and then not release it, because now it's
Speaker 3: really starting to look suspicious.
Speaker 2: Well, and it wasn't it suspicious that, you know, she'd
Speaker 2: lost face with Jesse Walters and that's where she announced it.
Speaker 2: So then she put out the note to Patel telling
Speaker 2: him what the hell's going on? So it was Friday
Speaker 2: that was supposed to be the next reveal. Well, conveniently enough,
Speaker 2: we have the whole thing with Lizinxi, and the whole
Speaker 2: thing blows up in the Oval office and everyone's now
Speaker 2: forgotten about the Epstein files because now Trump's starting World
Speaker 2: War three, you know, was Lynsky and how convenient. And
Speaker 2: I just before we went live, I just read in
Speaker 2: one of the websites that they don't think there's ever
Speaker 2: going to be a file released.
Speaker 3: That's right, I absolutely, I'm really sure they're never going
Speaker 3: to release the files on JFK because what I've found
Speaker 3: out over the years, there's just no way this thing
Speaker 3: has tendrils going out in every direction, the MOB and
Speaker 3: NASA and secret space program. And it's just.
Speaker 2: Like you remember that Jack Kennedy was that he was
Speaker 2: connected to the Mob.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he was connected. Her dad was mobster. Dad
Speaker 3: was running CRUs out of Canada with the Romptin family.
Speaker 3: And then Meyer Lanski screwed Joe over so he became
Speaker 3: like seriously anti Semitic, even to the extent of going
Speaker 3: down to Hollywood and telling them not to make anti
Speaker 3: Hitler movies. Really he did that. And so yeah, the
Speaker 3: Kennedy thing is so caught up in in all of
Speaker 3: the worst aspects of America of that time. I can't
Speaker 3: even begin to fathom how the going to do it.
Speaker 4: You guys have done a lot of great work on JFK.
Speaker 4: I mean that just feels like the intersection of where
Speaker 4: this country took a hard pivot to the right, you know,
Speaker 4: you know, just it was head in one direction and
Speaker 4: then after that everything changed. You know, it feels like
Speaker 4: they're just the any sort of Americana. America first that
Speaker 4: it got hijacked. I don't know if that was Israel's
Speaker 4: doing or a combination of everything, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's just been Bob Bob Bill and did
Speaker 3: an interview like in the eighties and he said that,
Speaker 3: he said, all through the sixties, you just fell our
Speaker 3: country being swiped from us, starting with the Kennedy assassination,
Speaker 3: and by the end of the sixties, it was like
Speaker 3: a corporate power just taken over. And what really happened
Speaker 3: was the mob just went legits the end of Godfather Too.
Speaker 3: You know, they were going to be legit, We're going
Speaker 3: to join the corporate world. And it was Meyer Lansky's
Speaker 3: wet dream to join the corporate world. And that's what happened.
Speaker 3: And so the mob literally went legit and ruined America.
Speaker 4: Bring back, bring back the Mob, the old the good
Speaker 4: old mob.
Speaker 3: Will just shot each other.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the whole thing for getting Bobby out.
Speaker 2: You know, he was the one that had the dirt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, I was muted. I do that every episode.
Speaker 1: Did I send you this, Charlie, this vanity article with
Speaker 1: GfK stages own murder and a fake film two months
Speaker 1: before the assassination.
Speaker 3: Yep, he filled his own assassination and Jackie was part
Speaker 3: of it. Jackie wanted to be a filmmaker, by the way,
Speaker 3: and so she was constantly making movies and and uh
Speaker 3: staging things. And so here they were two months before
Speaker 3: staging the assassination. And and that's what you would do
Speaker 3: if you were staging a hit. You would take the
Speaker 3: camera out. You try to get your angles right and
Speaker 3: figure out how you're doing it. And it turns out
Speaker 3: that she was actually played a much bigger part also
Speaker 3: in the in the when Kennedy went to Parkland Hospital
Speaker 3: the body, she was the one that was the driving
Speaker 3: force behind getting that body out of that hospital into
Speaker 3: Air Force one like asap. Several witnesses have said she
Speaker 3: was like, they're no, we're coming right now. And she
Speaker 3: told the coroner from Dallas, no, I have jurisdiction, and
Speaker 3: she's like, I don't care, right, And she wanted that
Speaker 3: body out of there like lightning, and so This is
Speaker 3: all stuff I've found out after JFK X came out.
Speaker 3: People just came to me and showed me stuff, including
Speaker 3: that article that writers just brought up. So there's a
Speaker 3: lot of high awareness around the whole thing. And no,
Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to release it.
Speaker 1: I've shown so many people of that article and they
Speaker 1: have absolutely no idea what to think. And several of
Speaker 1: them have seen our film and they're like, Wow, I
Speaker 1: don't know what. I don't even know what to say
Speaker 1: about this article.
Speaker 3: It is amazing. I mean it would be like, you know,
Speaker 3: it says he's kind of damning. Actually, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Think it's interesting. How I don't believe Trump ever said
Speaker 1: that he was going to release the Epstein files, right.
Speaker 1: He said that he was going to do JFK. He
Speaker 1: said that he was going to do RFK, and he
Speaker 1: said he was going to do Martin Luther King Jr.
Speaker 1: So so far those ones haven't been released, and the
Speaker 1: one he said that he never said that he was
Speaker 1: actually going to release has been partially released. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of interesting.
Speaker 3: How are they going to release the RFK files. Nagucci,
Speaker 3: the coroner, said he got shot right here for like
Speaker 3: one inch away by a twenty two, which exactly what
Speaker 3: you would do if you're a hit man, you use
Speaker 3: a twenty two right up to the head as close
Speaker 3: as you could get. Really, the guard that they just
Speaker 3: hired to guard Kennedy, it was clearly him that did it,
Speaker 3: Sir Hauntser. There's like fourteen bullet holes in the walls
Speaker 3: of that of that hotel, hotel kitchen, and the gun
Speaker 3: it sir, and he only had us six bullets. I mean,
Speaker 3: the whole thing is, they can't release those files.
Speaker 1: Unless they're heavily redacted, like the Epstein files just all
Speaker 1: blocked out. That's the only way I think.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, we're dealing with people that
Speaker 3: will kill you. And I've been saying for the last
Speaker 3: two weeks that if Cash Patel or the guy that's
Speaker 3: in defense or RFK suddenly had to die, we know
Speaker 3: that the war is on.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, Well that's.
Speaker 1: What Musk was talking about on Joe Rogan the other day.
Speaker 1: He was like, I can't get too deep into this
Speaker 1: corruption as the US eight or whatever they might kill me.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, they're losing millions and billions of dollars,
Speaker 3: and so what are you going to do.
Speaker 2: I think it's going to bring the consequence that we're
Speaker 2: already at it. You now have the bureaucrats who are
Speaker 2: at war with Trump, the Democrats, who I don't know
Speaker 2: lost their message or whatever, but it seems like they've
Speaker 2: been exposed. And they're not just saying that the Democrats
Speaker 2: were going to the cookie jar. Everybody was, and that
Speaker 2: the depth of this is that we've always said though
Speaker 2: there was a deep state, well, the deep state was
Speaker 2: always this ambiguous something. What we're seeing here the deep
Speaker 2: state being the bureaucracies and the bureaucrats who were really
Speaker 2: running the country. The elections were just a sideshow. And
Speaker 2: what Trump is doing, I think is very My thought
Speaker 2: is is that they're going to take them out. They
Speaker 2: can't continue to allow this kind of deep exposure to
Speaker 2: the core of what really is driving this country, what
Speaker 2: this country really is. I don't think people can handle it.
Speaker 2: And I think that if they continue to dig even further,
Speaker 2: I think by the very nature of the information, I
Speaker 2: think they're going to cause something to happen.
Speaker 3: Well, it's interesting you say that because I know somebody
Speaker 3: that's close to the Trump administration. And he told me
Speaker 3: that when Stammer invited Trump to Britain last week, they
Speaker 3: heard on the back channel chatter that there was a
Speaker 3: hit planned on Trump when he went to England, and
Speaker 3: so Trump said, no, thanks, I'm not going. I suggest
Speaker 3: Trump to stay in the lighthouse. To be honest with you,
Speaker 3: a lot of people.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's, you know, from a spiritual position
Speaker 2: as I see this country. I mean they say the
Speaker 2: old saying you know as above, so below, so below
Speaker 2: as above that you know back in the days and
Speaker 2: when I left Christianity, but I was a deep minister
Speaker 2: that there's apparently this conflict is up in the heavens
Speaker 2: that you know, that the beings that we can't see.
Speaker 2: And if that's the case, then all hell is about
Speaker 2: to break loose. I mean that's what Trump is doing.
Speaker 2: I mean, for him, he's only got a certain amount
Speaker 2: of time. He knows that they tried to take him
Speaker 2: out more than twice that I'm understanding. Now. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: just interesting, and this is just me. When you have
Speaker 2: a man who is though thoroughly convinced that God has
Speaker 2: his hand upon him and that he is now fulfilling
Speaker 2: destiny of a divine level. And that's what Trump says.
Speaker 2: He says, you know, and that has a whole different
Speaker 2: overtone on everything that he does.
Speaker 3: Now certainly does. It was pretty interesting. I don't know
Speaker 3: where it's all going to go. I know that what
Speaker 3: they're doing, what the Trump administration is doing, is they're
Speaker 3: using this strategy that was thought up about twenty years
Speaker 3: ago how to how a small group of dedicated soldiers
Speaker 3: can defeat a larger army. And the strategy was basically,
Speaker 3: what you do is you create so much mayhem that
Speaker 3: because the way it works in the military is bad
Speaker 3: generals are generally gets involved in the details of a battle.
Speaker 3: A good general is one just gives a directive and
Speaker 3: expects the guys below him to carry out that directive
Speaker 3: as close as possible, but they make the decisions on
Speaker 3: the battle of you. So the strategy is taught to
Speaker 3: break this kind of warfare up. And so what they
Speaker 3: do is you create so much mayhem day after day
Speaker 3: that pretty soon the generals are on their heels all
Speaker 3: the time, and the responding to something that you did
Speaker 3: four days ago, and you've already done twelve more things
Speaker 3: since then. And so what happens is is that the
Speaker 3: directives start to get confused, and then the underling people
Speaker 3: start making decisions on their own because they're not getting
Speaker 3: the directives as well as they should be, and then
Speaker 3: they start making mistakes. And that's what's going on with
Speaker 3: the Democrats right now, is they're not getting any directives,
Speaker 3: so they're starting to make mistakes. And so if you
Speaker 3: look at New York Times dot com in October, there
Speaker 3: were ten lead stories. If you look at it right now,
Speaker 3: there's one hundred lead stories. And so they're the guys
Speaker 3: that are leading the news mill and everybody's looking at
Speaker 3: the New York Times for help, to all the big
Speaker 3: news outlets, and now they don't know where to go,
Speaker 3: which stories to pick, where to go. And I would
Speaker 3: say they're going to keep doing this kind of warfare.
Speaker 3: It's asymmetrical warfare on on the opposition for the next
Speaker 3: four years. It's going to be exhausting.
Speaker 4: You can have a ten step plan towards global tyranny,
Speaker 4: but if you can't get off of step two, doesn't
Speaker 4: do you much good. So to the extent that they
Speaker 4: can throw a monkey wrench into this and push their
Speaker 4: timeline out a little bit, further, we've always heard twenty
Speaker 4: thirty as an agenda, twenty thirty as a real benchmark
Speaker 4: year for them. It felt like during the COVID years
Speaker 4: that they felt some sort of sense of urgency. Maybe
Speaker 4: they were behind schedule and they were having to catch up.
Speaker 4: And I think that that's a good place to put them.
Speaker 4: If you can put them in a place where they're
Speaker 4: they feel like their timeline is thrown off, then they're
Speaker 4: more than likely going to make some mistakes trying to
Speaker 4: catch up, and in doing so expose themselves exposed to
Speaker 4: what their agenda has been all along. And so and again,
Speaker 4: I think we make an assumption, and maybe not us
Speaker 4: on this panel, but the general public makes an assumption
Speaker 4: that these people running the government are very good at
Speaker 4: what they do. In actuality, a lot of them are
Speaker 4: the worst individuals you can find. They're just heavily compromised.
Speaker 4: So they put them in a position of power and
Speaker 4: put a tie on them and and suit and send
Speaker 4: them out there. And then you catch them from time
Speaker 4: to time and you go, wait, this is the best guy.
Speaker 4: Lindsey Graham is the best guy you could find to
Speaker 4: represent This seems crazy to me, So I think that
Speaker 4: there is a little bit of hope in the in
Speaker 4: knowing how how really disorganized they can be and how
Speaker 4: unqualified these people, the puppet people, the puppet class, that
Speaker 4: that's out there to uh, you know, to roll out
Speaker 4: these policies. You know, you don't get I don't get
Speaker 4: a sense of of that that things are are are
Speaker 4: going well in Canada. When I see Justin Trudeau roll
Speaker 4: out a policy, it feels like everybody's laughing at him,
Speaker 4: right to his face, you know. So it's a lot
Speaker 4: of this. The mystique of these government officials as being
Speaker 4: above reproach has worn off over the last couple of years,
Speaker 4: and I think it's nice to see that. It gives
Speaker 4: us a little bit of a chance to catch up
Speaker 4: and and throw a big wrench into their plans.
Speaker 3: Well it should be. It's clear to me from the
Speaker 3: people I know, well, they've told me that Trump is
Speaker 3: trying to build fortress in North America, and he wants Canada,
Speaker 3: and he wants Greenland, and he wants Panama Canal and
Speaker 3: he's not kidding about it. And Alberta just yesterday indicated
Speaker 3: they would break and want to come to America because
Speaker 3: they're getting so screwed by Ottawa. So you know, you
Speaker 3: start breaking those off, and first the right wing province's
Speaker 3: break off, and then in the maritime pretty soon, and
Speaker 3: you know, then these terroffts are going to kill Canada.
Speaker 3: We're their biggest trading partner. So there is our goal here.
Speaker 3: It's I don't know if I agree with it or not,
Speaker 3: but even if it's just tree between Greenland and Canada
Speaker 3: and the United States, something is going to unite the
Speaker 3: whole thing. And it's all done to fort China.
Speaker 1: Right Wayne? Tell them because Wayne was one of the
Speaker 1: first people to create a financial payment system online and
Speaker 1: he was talking about this on my show the last
Speaker 1: time that he was on, and what their plans were
Speaker 1: for this digital backed currency that they were talking about.
Speaker 1: How long ago was that, Wayne.
Speaker 2: Well, let's see, that was shoot twenty years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, tell them about that. That was really fascinating about America,
Speaker 1: Canada and Mexico.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean well, I you know, I served
Speaker 2: as a consultant to the FED and it was in
Speaker 2: the digital realm. I mean, we were hitting the boundaries.
Speaker 2: But it's already been in the mix for quite a
Speaker 2: long time. Is that you'll see a unified Canada, United States,
Speaker 2: and Mexico due to the threat of the bricks is
Speaker 2: a good example of that. When I worked with the FED,
Speaker 2: I already saw what the it's called the neural North
Speaker 2: American dollar, and it was never to be a physical dollar.
Speaker 2: It was a digital dollar. And the reason for the
Speaker 2: digital dollar was that it was easily transferable amongst the
Speaker 2: three nations. So that's why we know. When I developed
Speaker 2: the mobile application for churches to give by the mobile phone,
Speaker 2: there wasn't a process yet, but the IRS got very
Speaker 2: much involved with it because to them that this was
Speaker 2: a way to start filling in the gaps of allowing
Speaker 2: potential tax dollars going through they're not recognized. And so
Speaker 2: if you do mobile transactions or force people to do
Speaker 2: everything by a mobile transaction, you've based sickly now eliminated
Speaker 2: this underground economy that goes by a cash deal. You're
Speaker 2: now fullly versed into the digital world. So yeah, some.
Speaker 1: People don't realize that. They think, oh, well, we're going
Speaker 1: to get this digital backcurrency is already digital. It's been
Speaker 1: digital for a really long time. It's all on the computer.
Speaker 1: It's not your money's not in the bank.
Speaker 2: If we didn't have a digital system, you wouldn't have bitcoin, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, bitcoin wouldn't been a wouldn't be able to
Speaker 2: ride or be on the you know, the backbone of anything.
Speaker 3: Is going to be Denver. Pardon The capital of that
Speaker 3: union between Mexico, Canada and the United States is going
Speaker 3: to be Denver.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And they're already setting it up like that. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Great, more traffic, just what we need here.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Really, but this was something that they talked about that
Speaker 4: Aaron Russo spoke about in Freedom to Fascism in two
Speaker 4: thousand and seven, talking about this North American Union, the
Speaker 4: marrow or whatever.
Speaker 1: He was doing.
Speaker 4: You know what it was, this this currency or this
Speaker 4: this belief that that maybe NAFTA was that opened it
Speaker 4: up from a trading standpoint to open the borders that way,
Speaker 4: and then we would all get merged into one. That's
Speaker 4: an interesting it's interesting as a as a hedge against
Speaker 4: the bricks nations.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think it's gonna be curious if must
Speaker 2: goes through and actually audience, you know Fort Knox. I mean,
Speaker 2: I keep on thinking that that's just a headline because
Speaker 2: I don't the risk is too great, and then I
Speaker 2: canna be completely wrong.
Speaker 3: I heard that there's like a very serious group of
Speaker 3: things that have to happen before anybody can even begin
Speaker 3: to get into Fort Knox. And the person that I
Speaker 3: talked to who knows all this, so that's impossible that
Speaker 3: it got robbed. He said, I may have switched it
Speaker 3: out fake gold in there now, but there's just too
Speaker 3: many checks, you know, like twelve different really difficult things
Speaker 3: that you have to go through just to walk into
Speaker 3: the door. So I'm sure that if he does, if
Speaker 3: he is going to go to Fort Knox, he's going
Speaker 3: to have to go through all of those steps, and
Speaker 3: so it could be months.
Speaker 4: Who would make a call on that? Would that be
Speaker 4: a military decision?
Speaker 3: Yep, that's the military?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean Trump has said today I
Speaker 2: read that he's going to do an executive order. No
Speaker 2: excuse me, it's actually a bill in the Senate to
Speaker 2: basically begin to dissolve the Federal Reserve. And I'm reading
Speaker 2: this and I'm going, you know, what are you just
Speaker 2: trying to do, just trying to really to piss him off?
Speaker 2: Is this what the idea is? I mean, did they
Speaker 2: not read the book at Jacko Island? They not it?
Speaker 2: Does not even know, apparently not.
Speaker 3: Well. What he believes is that the time period from
Speaker 3: eighteen seventy to nineteen fourteen was the most prosperous time
Speaker 3: in American history. Average American and today's dollars was making
Speaker 3: like one hundred thousand dollars a year. That's a regular
Speaker 3: worker in taking inflation and everything, and it was all
Speaker 3: paid for by tariffs. There was no income tax, and
Speaker 3: that's where he's trying to go back to, and it
Speaker 3: really well does a time.
Speaker 1: I hope he does. Hope he gets rid of that
Speaker 1: income tax. People have been talking about income tax and
Speaker 1: house fraud and a scam, were being robbed for decades
Speaker 1: and decades.
Speaker 4: Now they need not to mention just the man hours
Speaker 4: that are spent worrying, processing, itemizing everything. All of that
Speaker 4: just seems like to talk about a department of efficiency.
Speaker 4: You want to get rid of something that is just
Speaker 4: a grind on everybody. And of course I know that
Speaker 4: they'll find new ways to extract money from us, but
Speaker 4: if it, you know, I would I would be open
Speaker 4: to hearing some new ideas that didn't involve a the
Speaker 4: Federal Reserve and the I R S. Funny, I just
Speaker 4: put out an episode of Macroaggressions yesterday. It's called The
Speaker 4: House Always Wins on Jacko Island talking about Colonel mandel
Speaker 4: House and and him of his role in all of this,
Speaker 4: and and Woodrow Wilson, and you just want to get
Speaker 4: in a time machine and just say, which one of
Speaker 4: these guys do I have to kill? Is it Woodrow
Speaker 4: Wilson is at Mandel House? Who do I have to
Speaker 4: strangle to to save this country? Because it didn't think
Speaker 4: the wheels fell off after that? And and and I
Speaker 4: think that you know, I would be if anyone's talking
Speaker 4: about ending the Federal reserve a. I like the idea,
Speaker 4: love the idea, you better, you better beef up your security.
Speaker 4: And if and if that person gets on an airplane
Speaker 4: and sits next to me, I'm gonna ding my little
Speaker 4: button and ask the stewardess to get me off there
Speaker 4: as fast as possible, because I.
Speaker 2: Never understood why the idea. And I think it was
Speaker 2: Parole who actually brought this back in the nineties, uh
Speaker 2: when he was running that a national sales tax and
Speaker 2: national sales tax of five percent across the board. And
Speaker 2: you know, people say, well that seems a little stupid.
Speaker 2: We're in thirty seven trillion dollars worth of debt, and
Speaker 2: that's probably the most fairest way that I think. If
Speaker 2: you're going to have to collect a tax to do it,
Speaker 2: you don't need the irs. You don't need Congress who
Speaker 2: can't seem to have the ability to balance the budget.
Speaker 2: I don't even think most of those people can spell budget.
Speaker 2: But you know, to me, it would easily transition the
Speaker 2: IRS out if Trump's idea on the tariffs, because that's
Speaker 2: the way it was done before. I think it can
Speaker 2: still work today. There would be no reason for us
Speaker 2: to do the ever have income text.
Speaker 3: Well, the beauty of tariffs is that you go to Canada,
Speaker 3: say Canada whose sales as wood and oil, and you
Speaker 3: just say to those Compania will just move your credquarters
Speaker 3: over into Montana. There's no more jet tariffs, and so
Speaker 3: all the jobs start coming in. That's what was going
Speaker 3: on in the eighteen seventies and eighties. Everybody had to
Speaker 3: move their company to America or you got charc and
Speaker 3: so we just kept growing and growing and all the
Speaker 3: best people. It's called the brain drain, and we were
Speaker 3: accused of siphoning off all the smart people in the
Speaker 3: world and having them come to America. Well, let's do
Speaker 3: that again. I mean, that's a great thing to have
Speaker 3: to be doing. So I think that's what's going on
Speaker 3: actually right in front of our eyes.
Speaker 4: And it's in conjunction with that, this golden passport.
Speaker 3: That he's talking about. Great idea. That is the greatest
Speaker 3: idea of all.
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you that is that is I think
Speaker 1: Justin Trudeau doesn't realize that that's even a possibility because
Speaker 1: whenever Trump signed the order to impose the tariffs on Canada,
Speaker 1: Canada also imposed an order on tariffs on the United States.
Speaker 1: There's a thirty five percent tariff for imports in the Canada.
Speaker 2: You gotta do the son of Castro, I just want
Speaker 2: to go the right guy that.
Speaker 3: It definitely isn't his dad, the guy he claims.
Speaker 2: I mean, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, yeah, No, he's a dead ringer for
Speaker 3: old Fidel.
Speaker 2: In all honesty, he said it's going to be rough
Speaker 2: in the beginning, and I think he's right. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's it's a shock to the system.
Speaker 2: And and that's why I think he's the biggest threat
Speaker 2: ever to the system.
Speaker 3: Well, as you were talking before, I mean, it's a
Speaker 3: kind of guarded territory, I guess. But you know, look
Speaker 3: who actually started the Federal Reserve. Look at who they were,
Speaker 3: Look who they were the agents of Who is JP
Speaker 3: Morgan really working for? Right? And then he realized that
Speaker 3: JP Morgan caused the Titanic to go down. I brought
Speaker 3: all the bankers, including my great great uncle, a banker
Speaker 3: from Pennsylvania and I all died on the Titanic, and
Speaker 3: they were all they they were all the anti Federal
Speaker 3: Reserve people. So he got rid of him. Then he
Speaker 3: did the call Island right after that, and then it
Speaker 3: was in and then so what happened? So the terriffs
Speaker 3: went away, and now we had to pay for everything, right, right,
Speaker 3: So what was going on really going on here? It
Speaker 3: was clearly a mafia, some kind of the center of
Speaker 3: this controlling everything, trying knowing that they if we have
Speaker 3: to pay taxes every month and every year, that will
Speaker 3: be more easily controlled. And that's what's going on because evolutionary, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you have a quasi private government agency that prints
Speaker 2: our money and then sells it back to us at
Speaker 2: an interest? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 4: How'd you get Wayne? How'd you get hooked up with
Speaker 4: consulting for the FED?
Speaker 2: I was on the team we invented the first pay
Speaker 2: at the table in the United States back in two
Speaker 2: thousand and four. And then I invented a system called
Speaker 2: the flow pay that was the first mobile transaction action
Speaker 2: system designed for churches but for all nonprofits. Uh, to
Speaker 2: use your mobile phone.
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 4: And this was twenty years ago. M.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pay at the table was we were, we were
Speaker 2: we were doing some really cool things back then. That
Speaker 2: was back in the day, you know, when aight oh two,
Speaker 2: dot eleven B was just coming out, and we were
Speaker 2: pushing the manufacturers, in this case veriphone, to design a
Speaker 2: credit card terminal that was ergonomic and that would be
Speaker 2: able to hook up through the Wi Fi to an
Speaker 2: enterprise system to where we would do the transaction through
Speaker 2: in this case a point of sale system, that the
Speaker 2: transaction would be pulled out of the point of sale system.
Speaker 2: We would do the transaction in the back door and
Speaker 2: then reconcile it with the POS system. And yeah, that's
Speaker 2: what with pay at the table was.
Speaker 4: That's crazy. I had a next door neighbor when I
Speaker 4: was living in Manhattan Beach, California. He's this computer scientist
Speaker 4: guy who bought this big mansion right across from the
Speaker 4: place we were renting. We talked to him one day.
Speaker 4: We go, hey, man, what do you what do you do?
Speaker 4: What do you do for a living? Like we're curious?
Speaker 4: And he says, oh, well, I he says, I do
Speaker 4: a lot of things, but I do computer systems, you know,
Speaker 4: payment processing and and things like that. I go, how
Speaker 4: can I explain it? He says, well, have you ever
Speaker 4: heard of the company called Strouds? And I said, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: they make you know, like linens and things. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: he goes. They approached me and said that when when
Speaker 4: you swipe a credit card at the register to buy,
Speaker 4: the time between when you swipe it and when you
Speaker 4: get an approval was twelve seconds long, and they wanted
Speaker 4: to cut that that time down. I guess their studies
Speaker 4: had shown people get frustrated or whatever. He wanted to
Speaker 4: cut that that that timing down, and so he said,
Speaker 4: I told them, I'll charge you a million dollars for
Speaker 4: every second I shave off of that, And I go,
Speaker 4: how'd you and would you do? He says, I hired
Speaker 4: a computer scientist like a mathematician to work on. He says,
Speaker 4: I didn't really know how to do it. I paid
Speaker 4: that guy one hundred grand and I took him from
Speaker 4: twelve seconds down to six seconds and pocketed six million
Speaker 4: dollars for it.
Speaker 2: God. Ye, what the FED was interested in us was
Speaker 2: that we were the first company that was actually had
Speaker 2: the experience of the debit interchange. And for instance, California
Speaker 2: Pizza Kitchen was our first test client, and they're typically
Speaker 2: located next to universities. Well, university students don't have credit
Speaker 2: cards as much as they did debit cards, and so
Speaker 2: we were the first collector of data madea data on that,
Speaker 2: and so both the payment industry and both the FEDS
Speaker 2: and of course others wanted to see it. So yeah,
Speaker 2: quite exciting back in the day. It really was.
Speaker 4: Did they try to steal your idea?
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, we had to go to court.
Speaker 3: Just check.
Speaker 4: I just want to make sure the FED was still
Speaker 4: the FED.
Speaker 2: Well, and it wasn't. It was actually one of the
Speaker 2: companies that we were working with that Yeah you know, uh,
Speaker 2: four years, over eight million dollars in legal fees. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, but you know what what I
Speaker 2: learned is that companies don't steal small profit items. They
Speaker 2: steal the big ticket once and pay at the table.
Speaker 2: Was steal the early adaption for the hospitality industry, and
Speaker 2: it represented to the company in this case, approximately one
Speaker 2: point five billion dollars in potential profit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that'll that'll get it stolen all right through.
Speaker 2: An entrepreneur as quick as you can.
Speaker 1: Sounds like the Danny Casselo octopus murderer stuff with the
Speaker 1: promised software, which I think is a really interesting concept too,
Speaker 1: because like they people are relating a lot of the
Speaker 1: illegal immigration from Mexico and stuff to like voter fraud
Speaker 1: and stuff like that to pack out these democratic states
Speaker 1: and even turn some of the red states into democratic
Speaker 1: states and all that, and I'm like, that's not really
Speaker 1: what it's about. That's like the surface level of it.
Speaker 1: It's really about a legal guns trade, illegal drugs, and
Speaker 1: human trafficking. That's the thing that makes all those things
Speaker 1: make the most money for the United States. And that's
Speaker 1: what all all of that is really about. And which
Speaker 1: then relates to this the CIA type of black budget
Speaker 1: breakaway group of people that have been operating in the
Speaker 1: United States, but gets into the Danny Castelero promise software
Speaker 1: and stuff. J Jay, I believe talked on the phone
Speaker 1: with Michael Racona Shudo, which is a big key member
Speaker 1: of the Danny Castelero Octopus murder case.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was in jail and Tacoma, Washington, and I
Speaker 3: was living up in the Seattle had a radio show
Speaker 3: started following the whole Danny Castelero whose I actually had
Speaker 3: a dream. I was on the ferry going from Bainbridge
Speaker 3: Island to Seattle, and I had a dream. I fell
Speaker 3: asleep and I had a dream that this guy had
Speaker 3: his wrist slashed in a shower and he was asking
Speaker 3: me for help. I woke up and three or four
Speaker 3: days later I found this story in the paper about
Speaker 3: this guy who cut his wrists in a hotel room
Speaker 3: and died. And then I started getting into the whole
Speaker 3: Danny Castelero a story where they stole the promised software
Speaker 3: and they embedded it into all the law enforcement computers
Speaker 3: in the whole hire United States, and with a trap
Speaker 3: door so they could look into everything. And Castelero was
Speaker 3: murdered tracking down that story. And it just goes to
Speaker 3: show you that if you get a phone call in
Speaker 3: the middle of the night asking you to come to
Speaker 3: a country like West Virginia, you go to a hotel
Speaker 3: to eat somebody, don't do it?
Speaker 2: Hell no, I believe me.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 4: I was the same age as Danny Cassillarro when I
Speaker 4: was writing my Octopus of Global Control book, and I
Speaker 4: was thinking, I hope I don't wind up in some
Speaker 4: packed and some aptobes somewhere. But at that point I
Speaker 4: realized that nobody knows who I am, and I think
Speaker 4: I'm probably safe. But it but it was one of
Speaker 4: those things that I was keeping my eyes open for,
Speaker 4: you know, just because you and you come to understand
Speaker 4: that that these people there's no line in the sand
Speaker 4: that they won't cross. And if they think that, you're
Speaker 4: writing some great expos on what they're doing, and they've
Speaker 4: got big plans for you know, infiltrating the system. I mean,
Speaker 4: you have to give them credit for the brilliance of
Speaker 4: these ideas that they have. I mean, they're diabolical, of course,
Speaker 4: but the blurring of organized crime and government is just
Speaker 4: something to be whold.
Speaker 2: Aren't they one of the same.
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Really, they are well watching. So don't don't ever for
Speaker 3: a second think they're not watching you.
Speaker 4: Try to bore on the death. They're like, this guy
Speaker 4: is so boring at home. He didn't do anything interesting.
Speaker 4: We want to get him caught up in some blackmail
Speaker 4: and trapman. He never leaves his house. I don't know
Speaker 4: what didn't make.
Speaker 3: I live out in the middle of nowhere, literally nothing
Speaker 3: around me at all, and right after jfk X came out,
Speaker 3: I've never seen anybody anywhere around me. Nobody. It's just
Speaker 3: nothing that. It's just all desert and eight thousand feet
Speaker 3: And about a week after the film came out, my
Speaker 3: dog's barking like crazy and never heard it darking like that.
Speaker 3: And I opened up my door and there's this guy
Speaker 3: standing there and he's got a mosquito mask on so
Speaker 3: I can't see his face. And he's like, I said,
Speaker 3: can I help you? He goes, well, I'll find my property.
Speaker 3: This is my property. You're not going to find your
Speaker 3: property on my property. And he's like arguing with me
Speaker 3: that it wasn't my property, right, and then he walked away.
Speaker 3: I thought, what the heck, you know, and I never
Speaker 3: understood who or what was going on, But you know,
Speaker 3: I definitely live in a house that probably frustrates the
Speaker 3: people that are watching me.
Speaker 2: As long as you got a good kill zone.
Speaker 3: I do, got long driveways, I got plenty of time.
Speaker 2: But it's true. I mean, it's the government is you know,
Speaker 2: murder inc I what they do, you know.
Speaker 1: I just think it's really interesting how they're like the
Speaker 1: top layer is like what everyone is really getting, but
Speaker 1: it's really like all these other layers under it that
Speaker 1: is like the real issue, Like the whole Danny Castile
Speaker 1: era thing was wasn't only the promised software that they
Speaker 1: were putting a backdoor into the software and selling it
Speaker 1: to other countries so they can essentially spy on them
Speaker 1: and know exactly what they're doing at any given moment,
Speaker 1: But it was also about drug illegal drug trafficking. It
Speaker 1: was also about legal guns trafficking and even freaking. Somehow
Speaker 1: UFOs even got wrapped up into the entire story.
Speaker 4: You get into that George Bush enterprise, the the the
Speaker 4: the government outside of the government that I don't control
Speaker 4: as as Clinton once said, or the Daniel in a
Speaker 4: way talking about they have their own air force, their
Speaker 4: own navy, their own you know, sources of of of revenue,
Speaker 4: and you go, who is this? This sounds like sounds
Speaker 4: like the government. It's like, well, it's sort of beyond
Speaker 4: the government.
Speaker 3: Well the present.
Speaker 2: I can't even get the scoop on UFOs and what
Speaker 2: have you. So that tells you right there, there's a
Speaker 2: layer that is above the law. I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: stinking law. Who needs that? I mean, yeah, and they
Speaker 2: control us. It's it's the frustrating thing that I see
Speaker 2: is that people try to say, well, I'm you know,
Speaker 2: a sovereign, independent thinker, but we're so manipulated. We're manipu
Speaker 2: related by forces that we don't even see. But apparently
Speaker 2: there is this echelon. They know about it very well,
Speaker 2: and apparently they're very good at it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. They you're seeing that interview with the banker. I
Speaker 3: think he's Austrian. I can't remember his name now that
Speaker 3: he was about forty years old when he did the
Speaker 3: interview and he was bringing brought in to the cult
Speaker 3: and he signed at the last moment that he couldn't
Speaker 3: do it because it involved child sacrifice and a lot
Speaker 3: of other stuff and he just wasn't that kind of guy,
Speaker 3: so he pulled back. And definitely, that's what it is,
Speaker 3: and it's exactly what you think it is. And this
Speaker 3: cult goes back a long way. It's a blood drinking cult.
Speaker 3: It's a ritual murder cult. They believe that the blood
Speaker 3: gives him extra power in life and all of that.
Speaker 3: And you know, the Dracula myths are retelling of this cult.
Speaker 3: And there's a really good book out there like Blood
Speaker 3: and Cults or something, and it's all about the history
Speaker 3: of all this and it's still going on and and
Speaker 3: now all the people that you think are part of
Speaker 3: it are probably part of it. And that's why that was.
Speaker 4: Bernard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4: He talks about you know, once they brought out the children,
Speaker 4: I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it. And you
Speaker 4: could see. I mean that if that guy was acting.
Speaker 4: They had to give him the Academy Award for his
Speaker 4: role because he looked like a guy who was very,
Speaker 4: very much conflicted by what he had seen and had
Speaker 4: been asked to do.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I one time I took out a I knew
Speaker 3: this guy's high ranking CIA, and he was saying, I'm
Speaker 3: not talking to you, Ja, I'm not talking to you.
Speaker 3: You might be c I A, I'm not going to
Speaker 3: tell you anything. So I took him out to dinner.
Speaker 3: I got him, moved up and I said, here I'll do.
Speaker 3: I'll make a statement, and if it's true, you blink
Speaker 3: your eyes. If it's not true, you don't blink your eyes.
Speaker 3: So I just started making statements and they kept blinking
Speaker 3: out everything I was saying. Pretty soon I got a
Speaker 3: we have a base on the moon plaque, we have
Speaker 3: a base on Mars plague. I'm like, what you know,
Speaker 3: And so it just got crazy and crazy Luciferians running
Speaker 3: to the government plank, you know.
Speaker 4: Blink plink, plink, plink, plink plink.
Speaker 3: So you know, I came to the conclusion that there
Speaker 3: really is this is nefarious group up there, and they
Speaker 3: will kill you. Period. They don't care at all about you.
Speaker 3: In fact, they believe their spiritual beliefs are that you
Speaker 3: came down here from the plowsmacloud that's around the Earth,
Speaker 3: and you solidified into a human and all we're doing
Speaker 3: is send you back where you came from. So they
Speaker 3: don't care at all about us, So none of.
Speaker 2: Us, well, now did you put it that way?
Speaker 4: Tough to defend against that?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: When when when they they don't view you as even
Speaker 4: being a human being with feelings or that hey, listen,
Speaker 4: We're just going to recycle you back into the universe.
Speaker 4: You won't remember this anyway, you know, doing.
Speaker 3: You a favor. Yep. And that's how they think about it,
Speaker 3: and that's how the mob thinks about it. The mob's all.
Speaker 3: The mob in the United States is either very very
Speaker 3: religious Jews or very religious Catholics. They're very religious. They
Speaker 3: go to church and synagogue and they pray and I
Speaker 3: know them. I mean, it's like incredible, and you're like,
Speaker 3: they don't feel anything bad about what they do.
Speaker 2: Well. I've contended that there was a time when I
Speaker 2: was a member of a they would say it was
Speaker 2: far right organization. It was put together when Reagan was office,
Speaker 2: and one of the persons I got to know really
Speaker 2: well was Ed Meese, former Attorney General. But there is
Speaker 2: a tangibleness to these individuals who obtain power, particularly in politics,
Speaker 2: senators particularly, and I swear I think that there is
Speaker 2: like the pod people. They may be a good human
Speaker 2: being when they're elected, but they get into that office
Speaker 2: and before you know it, something's changed, and it's a
Speaker 2: palatable presence you can feel. I can remember a couple
Speaker 2: of senators that can think off right, off hand and
Speaker 2: even when you shake their hand, one was like shaking
Speaker 2: the hand of a dead fish. I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: which questioned me, well, what what's really inside that Saco bhones.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Well that's the thing with Trump is that
Speaker 1: I don't I can't think of one president in my lifetime,
Speaker 1: which I'm younger than all of you, but I can't
Speaker 1: think of one president in my lifetime that has said
Speaker 1: something during the campaign running up the president that he's
Speaker 1: going to do, gets in the office, and then does it.
Speaker 1: Nobody has done it. Trump has been the only one
Speaker 1: that has campaigned on these things, said that he's going
Speaker 1: to do something, then gets in the office and then
Speaker 1: actually does it.
Speaker 2: He's already faced death. I mean, now, let's really get
Speaker 2: into his opponent's head. I mean, I listen, I watched
Speaker 2: the State of the Union, and I thought it was
Speaker 2: an interestingate was history being rolled out there. But it's
Speaker 2: it's amazing how he's been able to internalize the fact
Speaker 2: that a bullet was meant for him and that he
Speaker 2: was looking at someone on the and the opponent's side
Speaker 2: of the room that most likely knew about her to
Speaker 2: help planned it. And I think right or to your
Speaker 2: point at this point, he's got nothing to lose, and
Speaker 2: I think he's getting so deep into the opposition's head.
Speaker 2: They're going, they're starting to they're starting to get a
Speaker 2: little weird.
Speaker 3: They will get weird because the strategy I was telling
Speaker 3: you about earlier. The whole point of the strategy is
Speaker 3: to get your enemy to fire all their ammunition into
Speaker 3: the empty woods where they think you are, but you
Speaker 3: left three days before. And that's how the strategy works.
Speaker 3: So you're constantly moving. It doesn't even matter if what
Speaker 3: you're doing makes sense. It just has to throw them back,
Speaker 3: keep them on their heels, and make them always going
Speaker 3: stepping backwards. And that's what's going to happen. And so
Speaker 3: you see a lot of ab certain things being said
Speaker 3: and weird stuff that's probably not even going to happen,
Speaker 3: but they're just saying it just to throw it out.
Speaker 3: I believe he's probably got a team of seven or
Speaker 3: eight people that are just designed to come up with
Speaker 3: new stuff for next week. Come up with stuff for
Speaker 3: next week, Give me fifty stuff on fifty things by Wednesday, right.
Speaker 4: And I lot a job doing that. Man, They should
Speaker 4: hire you. Put your films. You're like, man, I can
Speaker 4: come up with some better ideas than what these days
Speaker 4: have got.
Speaker 2: So here's my theory, super intricate that on January thirteenth,
Speaker 2: if we go back and we look at the Roman
Speaker 2: Greco period and how their cultures, their governments, and society itself,
Speaker 2: they looked at certain mortals that when they passed the
Speaker 2: test of the gods, became demigods. And these were mortals
Speaker 2: who were on their way to immortality. And I said,
Speaker 2: if we were to use that overlay and put that
Speaker 2: over Butler, Pennsylvania on July thirteenth, I said, Trump faced
Speaker 2: that test. He faced the same test as Hercules. He
Speaker 2: faced death, and he came up and he came up fighting,
Speaker 2: so that elevated him in the God's eyes that now
Speaker 2: he is worthy of becoming a permanent demigod. And hear
Speaker 2: me out on this. I mean today he's almost got
Speaker 2: a Messiah complex, which I'm not saying is bad, but
Speaker 2: he's like, I'm only one that can do this, and
Speaker 2: I'll get it done. And he's doing it.
Speaker 3: It's amazing when an alpha male on a spiritual spiritual
Speaker 3: journey can accomplish.
Speaker 2: And yes, they can move mountains.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't know you know, the whole assassination
Speaker 3: chapters is so weird. They cremated the guy was secretly
Speaker 3: about ten days afterwards. There's a photograph of the FBI
Speaker 3: agent spraying down the crime scene that CNN only time
Speaker 3: they've ever shown a Trump rally was that day. Melania
Speaker 3: was watching. She saw it happen. I'm not even sure
Speaker 3: that Crooks is really the guy. There's another guy who
Speaker 3: is a pro Ukrainian activist that was also at that rally,
Speaker 3: who has since disappeared. By the way, and I've tried
Speaker 3: to contact the guy through Facebook, because you've got a
Speaker 3: Facebook page. I wrote to him. He's not made a
Speaker 3: post since the twelveth of July, and I wrote to
Speaker 3: him on like July twentieth, I said, are you alive?
Speaker 3: And he never wrote me back. And so I think
Speaker 3: that Cooks was either that two guys out there or
Speaker 3: something else going home. And by the way, he got
Speaker 3: eight shots off before the snipers took him out. It's
Speaker 3: like what eight shots they were looking at. We all
Speaker 3: seen the video. They had their scopes on him and everything,
Speaker 3: and that they allowed him to get eight shots off
Speaker 3: before they fired back. There's just so much here that
Speaker 3: I don't know, this is like worse than any of
Speaker 3: the other assassinations because it really looks like Joe Biden
Speaker 3: gave the order to shoot Trump.
Speaker 2: Dan Bongino said in his one of his last podcasts
Speaker 2: that he's going to bring it out.
Speaker 1: It's funny how that just kind of all went away too,
Speaker 1: Like no one really talks about it anymore, and it
Speaker 1: just kind of brushed under the rug.
Speaker 3: You know, never interviewed his parents, No one's ever attempted
Speaker 3: to interview his parents.
Speaker 2: And where did she them go to. I'm swearing that
Speaker 2: that her, her whole story has got stink all over it.
Speaker 2: I mean, uh, inter and director for the Secret Service.
Speaker 2: She goes and personally sees Trump after the assassination attempt,
Speaker 2: and then directly after that she disappears. Yeah, yeah, never
Speaker 2: to be seen, never to be heard, has never testified
Speaker 2: before the Senate earning. In fact, what gets me is
Speaker 2: that the Senate nor the House, they've given up on
Speaker 2: all the investigations.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's going on with that? I don't even understand that.
Speaker 3: Why it was a Republican Congress, they could have opened
Speaker 3: up immediately investigation they didn't really curious.
Speaker 4: Really, Fort Bragg h storyline kind of running through it,
Speaker 4: especially with the guy in Florida, South Florida. But yeah,
Speaker 4: the golf course that ghosts in the machine commercial. I
Speaker 4: guess I don't know what you would call it that
Speaker 4: they put out there a couple of years ago talking
Speaker 4: about where everywhere you know that that that they were
Speaker 4: calling their shot, talking about how how the how they
Speaker 4: basically create reality. And and then to have this overlap
Speaker 4: of Fort Bragg showing up kind of over and over
Speaker 4: again with regard to the the January first situation with
Speaker 4: the cyber truck guy or the you know, the person
Speaker 4: who's running over people in New Orleans and that, and
Speaker 4: they all have these ties to this one place that
Speaker 4: happens to be where the US Army psych Warfare Office
Speaker 4: is based, and they're running ops out of out of there,
Speaker 4: and and you just go, boy, I get a really
Speaker 4: bad feel. I might not know everything that's going on here,
Speaker 4: but I get a bad feeling about this that maybe
Speaker 4: that the calls were coming from inside the house on
Speaker 4: this one.
Speaker 3: Well, then we just got the picture of Crooks would
Speaker 3: talking on the phone right before the assassination. He's on
Speaker 3: the phone somebody. It's like, what that you for sure.
Speaker 3: We have the record for that. They can't hide that.
Speaker 3: So he had a cell phone, so they know all
Speaker 3: everywhere then he was that day? Or don't they have
Speaker 3: the cell phone? Which is it right?
Speaker 2: What happened to the white van?
Speaker 3: Yeah? With the bodies in it?
Speaker 2: What happened there? Nothing to see?
Speaker 3: Move on.
Speaker 1: What's the story with the white van? I haven't heard
Speaker 1: this one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a you might want to help me here, but.
Speaker 2: The evening, I mean it was like four hours later
Speaker 2: they found the white van, you know, parked off a
Speaker 2: side road.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the park right next to a person's house
Speaker 3: that was involved and it was either on stage or
Speaker 3: something with Trump and it was right next to their house.
Speaker 3: And it's like there's a big story and then it
Speaker 3: just wo went away gone.
Speaker 2: But the CNN thing is the one thing as well
Speaker 2: which tells me it had to be, you know, an
Speaker 2: inside job.
Speaker 3: I mean this this, Yeah, that's pretty much of what
Speaker 3: I think for sure. And you know, and.
Speaker 2: Uh, you know, if I'm carrying an AR fifteen and
Speaker 2: a country fair, you don't think there's no one's going
Speaker 2: to go.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, giant freaking ladder bringing a giant ladder problem.
Speaker 2: Problem.
Speaker 3: We can't figure out how he got on the roof.
Speaker 3: He had to have a ladder, but we don't know
Speaker 3: where he got it, and and so it's very strange
Speaker 3: because they won't tell us again, how did he get
Speaker 3: on the roof exactly right? And then they say that
Speaker 3: the guy crawled up the ladder where the policemen looked
Speaker 3: over and saw crooks with the guy and then he
Speaker 3: fell off the ladder, But they never tell us where
Speaker 3: the ladder was or anything, and what was doing there?
Speaker 3: Why would you have an assassinate possible a presidential candidate
Speaker 3: coming in and you're leaving a ladder that allows access
Speaker 3: to the roof.
Speaker 2: And you get up there and it has an arrow
Speaker 2: pointing upwards.
Speaker 3: Right, And the two guys that were on that roof
Speaker 3: watching that roof both left just minutes before the assassination attempt.
Speaker 3: Both guards that were looking through the window with a
Speaker 3: scene crux boat one went to the bathroom and another
Speaker 3: one went to check out side for something. They're both
Speaker 3: missing in action at the same exact time they ate earlier.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like the Jeffrey Epstein thing too, where
Speaker 1: he was on suicide watch and then the camera stopped
Speaker 1: working in the moment that he, like the guards weren't
Speaker 1: on duty, same type of scenario there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Epstein, is that the guy that's on the stretcher
Speaker 3: that they're taking out of the jail, the dead guy
Speaker 3: that is not Epstein's nose. Sorry, that guy has a
Speaker 3: different nose.
Speaker 2: So so as we're talking about all this, you can't
Speaker 2: help but not step back and going is this really reality?
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it almost feel like we're an
Speaker 2: MP NPC that we're It's like nothing you and I
Speaker 2: do doesn't matter. They're playing this film out. We just
Speaker 2: happened to be in the mirst of it. It's it's
Speaker 2: it's weird. It makes me wonder what else they got
Speaker 2: planned for us.
Speaker 4: And you guys make movies for a living, and you've
Speaker 4: done this and you understand continuity and how the storyline
Speaker 4: has to has to follow a certain path and it
Speaker 4: has to be believable. But they don't because the path
Speaker 4: falls off halfway through the story is completely unbelievable. And
Speaker 4: you go, wait, wouldn't you bring in like a director
Speaker 4: type to run the operation and make sure that that
Speaker 4: everything makes sense and ties back to the previous scene.
Speaker 4: You know, whatever previous scene, last presidential administration or something.
Speaker 4: But instead there's major plot holes in this whole thing
Speaker 4: that never get addressed, never get tight tied up, and
Speaker 4: we just go, eh, well, I guess that's just how
Speaker 4: the world works. And it's like, no, it's who put
Speaker 4: the ladder there? I want to know who put the
Speaker 4: ladder there. That is a plot hole that we need
Speaker 4: to address before we move forward with this movie. And
Speaker 4: they're like, the movie rolls on, whether you believe it
Speaker 4: or not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a we show in a flockwork shining that Hollywood.
Speaker 3: I mean that the government, probably the CIA, was looking
Speaker 3: for the top five movie directors back in the early sixties,
Speaker 3: and Kubrick was one of them. And then I heard
Speaker 3: rumors years ago that Kubrick was the director of the
Speaker 3: JFK Assassination, right, and that the movie Full Metal Jacket
Speaker 3: is talking about that. I'm telling you about it. Not
Speaker 3: only is JFK the initials JFK in the title Full
Speaker 3: Metal Jacket, but they talk about Lee Harvey Oswald and
Speaker 3: being a good sniper in the movie and and all
Speaker 3: these other things. And and so maybe there's not there's
Speaker 3: no good directors anymore. Maybe that's the problem, and so
Speaker 3: they don't they don't understand how to tell a story.
Speaker 1: Did you find U C G I. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: the way of the Marvel movies. Continuity schmant nuity is
Speaker 1: what they say.
Speaker 3: We'll fix it and post, let the editor take care
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 4: That's a poor job.
Speaker 1: It makes it difficult on us when.
Speaker 3: Yes, this is probably truer than we think. I hate
Speaker 3: to say it. It's probably some poor schmuck editor out
Speaker 3: there who has to make all the decisions on the
Speaker 3: ground about you know, Sandy hook and and all the
Speaker 3: assassinations and everything, because the guys on top are all
Speaker 3: snort and coke and you know, I'm not paying attention
Speaker 3: to anything anymore. That's what it looks like anyway, because
Speaker 3: if you do examination of like the Boston bombing, there
Speaker 3: collapses so quickly, embarrassing.
Speaker 4: Oh god, it's like they sent in the JV team
Speaker 4: to run that off. Really, just so do whatever, and
Speaker 4: you know, we'll figure it out.
Speaker 3: Videos of guys with bags of fake blood sprang it
Speaker 3: all over every.
Speaker 4: Place, loud speakers going off. This is a drill.
Speaker 1: This is a drill.
Speaker 4: You can hear it in the camera. You're like, well,
Speaker 4: I don't know what to tell you, guys. I mean,
Speaker 4: this is fake. It's as fake as it gets. But
Speaker 4: the it almost I wonder sometimes if if it's like
Speaker 4: there's two versions of it. There's one version people don't
Speaker 4: dig too deep and they and they go, oh, it's
Speaker 4: all must be real because the television told me so,
Speaker 4: and they believe that. And then there's us, the segment
Speaker 4: that has questions for it, and we go, god, it's
Speaker 4: so fake, it's falling apart. I want if they're thinking good,
Speaker 4: we want you to see that. I want you to
Speaker 4: see how fake it is, because it's not even even
Speaker 4: though you you rightly called out how fake it is,
Speaker 4: it's not gonna stop. There's nothing you can do about it.
Speaker 3: In fact, we're going to drive you crazy, are giving
Speaker 3: you even more fake stuff.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: See scene in the Dark City the cop that realizes
Speaker 3: what's really going on, and he says that they're changing
Speaker 3: the city every night, they're moving everything around while we're sleeping,
Speaker 3: and everybody, yeah, right, buddy, you're right, yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: And he's the only guy actually understood what's going on, right,
Speaker 3: and what is he could get suicide right.
Speaker 4: You'll make it go crazy, right, you figure it out
Speaker 4: to when you're early, you sound nuts.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: If you're two steps ahead, you're a crackpot. If you're
Speaker 3: one step ahead, you're a genius. Right.
Speaker 2: Good movie. But by the way, that was.
Speaker 3: A great one of the great movies of all time
Speaker 3: that I really enjoyed that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it can't be too far over the target. Now,
Speaker 1: what do we I think that if Trump is going
Speaker 1: to do the obsteam, if he's going to do the
Speaker 1: JFK files, if he's going to do the RFK files
Speaker 1: and the Martin Luther King Junior files, he should also
Speaker 1: release the nine to eleven files. Are we in a Grandma?
Speaker 1: I think that he should.
Speaker 3: There's a famous video of Trump sitting up on top
Speaker 3: of a building pointing at the World Trade Center, all
Speaker 3: fall apart, smoke coming out of it, and he said,
Speaker 3: I watched that thing being built. I understand construction. I
Speaker 3: think it's built like a soup can. There's no way
Speaker 3: that it could be taken down. You said that like
Speaker 3: two days after nine to eleven, So he knows that
Speaker 3: it's fake. He lost a lot of friends too, by
Speaker 3: the way, in the fire department that were his friends.
Speaker 3: So he's got a bone to pick in that one.
Speaker 2: Well, you can't forget Rumsfield day before sitting in the
Speaker 2: Pentagon step when he had to admit that they couldn't
Speaker 2: pass the audit. Eleven trillion dollars was missing, and you
Speaker 2: know all shit was supposed to hit the fans, so
Speaker 2: to speak, the next day, and there we go.
Speaker 3: Where the missile hit the department.
Speaker 2: And I think it's a.
Speaker 4: Real smooth operator like Rumsfeld to understand the news cycle
Speaker 4: and how that works. And if you want to announce
Speaker 4: the missing money on September tenth, you know it would
Speaker 4: rightly be a huge story the following day unless there
Speaker 4: was an even bigger story to push it off the
Speaker 4: off the reel.
Speaker 3: C there we go.
Speaker 2: It never made it into the news cycle again.
Speaker 3: Though, just like the owner of of I can't remember
Speaker 3: the owner of the World Trade Center with a breakfast
Speaker 3: every day on the ninety ninth floor restaurant, he just
Speaker 3: missed one day. After all the time you owned it,
Speaker 3: you only missed one day. Imagine you're eating breakfast restaurant
Speaker 3: and you're looking at the waiters and the cook and
Speaker 3: all the people, and like tomorrow they're all going to
Speaker 3: be dead because of me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right.
Speaker 4: It takes a special kind of person to be able
Speaker 4: to be involved in something like It takes somebody that
Speaker 4: is is evil on a level that I can't really comprehend.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when X started going free speech, people were starting
Speaker 3: to put up old youtubes that have been taken down,
Speaker 3: you know, during the purge, right, and so it was
Speaker 3: really interesting for a little while. I don't know if
Speaker 3: they're doing it anymore, but there's this one YouTube where
Speaker 3: this guy on nine to eleven in New York with
Speaker 3: a camera goes through a broken window of the World
Speaker 3: Trade Center seven and starts walking up the stairs and
Speaker 3: nothing's on fire, there's nothing's wrong in anything, and he
Speaker 3: meets a security guard and the security guard goes, you
Speaker 3: can't be in here. You gotta go. This building's gonna blow.
Speaker 1: So I was like, whoa, Like, yeah, I've seen one
Speaker 1: of those. I wasn't for sure if it was real
Speaker 1: or not. That was going through there, and there was
Speaker 1: nothing in the building, nothing at all.
Speaker 3: That's right. There was nothing in the building, no furniture,
Speaker 3: not and the lobby was empty, completely empty. It was incredible.
Speaker 3: It was definitely World Trade Center seven, Because did.
Speaker 4: You guys ever see the far Sight Institute remote viewing
Speaker 4: of nine to eleven sessions that they did, and there's
Speaker 4: like seven different videos as a part of it. And
Speaker 4: one of the ones that they did is they were,
Speaker 4: you know, they've got the whiteboard going and Dick Algeiers
Speaker 4: drawing everything out and he's he's talking about this team
Speaker 4: of people. He's like, they've got a map, They're they're
Speaker 4: putting something flexible on beams, on pillars or something. He says,
Speaker 4: they've they they've they've they don't know, they're not familiar
Speaker 4: with this building because they keep checking the map, but
Speaker 4: they're clearly familiar with working together as a small, tight,
Speaker 4: little group. And and and once you get a little
Speaker 4: bit through listening to it, you can extrapolate out that
Speaker 4: they're talking about Building seven earlier in the day, talking
Speaker 4: talking about wrapping explosives around columns and whatnot. I don't
Speaker 4: know if that could actually be done in the amount
Speaker 4: of time needed to do it, or if that was
Speaker 4: done even further in advance. But I think it goes
Speaker 4: without saying that that was a controlled demolition.
Speaker 2: Because it was a cover for gold heist. It was
Speaker 2: underneath Building seven was where private corporations and individuals. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they found that's there you go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they found a truck full of gold the
Speaker 3: firefighters did. It was the truck that got abandoned. It
Speaker 3: was full of gold. So they robbed all the banks.
Speaker 3: It's a diehard. It was diehard is a fake terrorist operation.
Speaker 3: That it was a bank robbery disguised as a fake
Speaker 3: terrorist operation.
Speaker 2: That's called blood people, man, I mean, you know, taken
Speaker 2: down dude, thirteen hundred lives or how many what for gold?
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's what they think that the Vegas incident
Speaker 1: was also about that it was some kind of Masad
Speaker 1: heist gone wrong.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't surprise me.
Speaker 3: Well, a video from Vegas showing Prince Muhammad of Saudi
Speaker 3: Arabia and I think it's a tropicana and he's got
Speaker 3: four guards and they grabbed him by the arms and
Speaker 3: they're pushing him through the casino, like racing him out
Speaker 3: of there as fast as they can. So it could
Speaker 3: be some kind of kidnapping plot against him.
Speaker 4: I talked to a friend of mine who's an anesthesiologist
Speaker 4: in Las Vegas, but he and I grew up together,
Speaker 4: known each other since we were ten years old, and
Speaker 4: I asked him, were you were you called in on
Speaker 4: that day? And he said, yes, I was there and
Speaker 4: I said, how was it? He said, it was the
Speaker 4: worst thing I've ever seen. He's like, I'm talking about
Speaker 4: operating rooms that had an inch of blood on the
Speaker 4: floor everywhere. And he said, I'm permanently traumatized after seeing
Speaker 4: what I saw there in doing what I was trying
Speaker 4: to do to help people out. And he said it
Speaker 4: was really bad.
Speaker 3: So people that say it's fake are completely wrong. I've
Speaker 3: seen the film on the ground. Bullets were slicing right
Speaker 3: through a girl's head. There's no way, man, that was
Speaker 3: really It looks like it was from helicopters actually starting
Speaker 3: to look.
Speaker 4: If if you ever read it or followed the John
Speaker 4: Cullen work that he did, He's done a lot of
Speaker 4: work on on helicopters and firing and and I lived
Speaker 4: in Vegas for ten years and the last time I
Speaker 4: was there, I was staying at Mandalay Bay and I
Speaker 4: went out for a little walk with my camera and
Speaker 4: filmed a little you know, this is the direction that
Speaker 4: you know, this is where the event was, this is
Speaker 4: where the hotel is in relation to it. Again, since
Speaker 4: we might as well mention it was in front of
Speaker 4: a big obelisk. Wasn't accidental.
Speaker 3: The biggest, biggest fake pyramid on earth is right.
Speaker 4: There, pyramid with an oblisk in front, yep.
Speaker 3: And there's just a lot of weirdness around that whole thing,
Speaker 3: all the activity going on in the air between the
Speaker 3: airport and that area. And then the Patsy was trying
Speaker 3: to tell us that that guy fired like hundreds of rounds.
Speaker 3: Come on, people, These people have never dealt with guns.
Speaker 3: I can tell you that because, I mean, there would
Speaker 3: be so much evidence that guns have been fired in
Speaker 3: that hotel room it would be possible to hide and
Speaker 3: there's no evidence.
Speaker 4: But Jay, it's okay because Ellen DeGeneres got to the
Speaker 4: bottom of it by having the security guard on her
Speaker 4: show a couple of weeks later, who looked very confused
Speaker 4: and was unsure as to why he was there. She
Speaker 4: even showed a diagram and said, this is what happened,
Speaker 4: right not And he's like, jizz, jizz, Yes, what was
Speaker 4: the guy using?
Speaker 3: Was it a two two three or well? I think
Speaker 3: it was a two two three away, but that's what
Speaker 3: they said. They had several guns, So he had a hotel.
Speaker 2: I have a three O eight to two two, but
Speaker 2: as well. But if you're near a three o eight
Speaker 2: that's being without ear protection or anything, you're going to
Speaker 2: hear that. In a hotel, you hear that damn thing
Speaker 2: on the other side of the hallway, all the way
Speaker 2: down the other end.
Speaker 3: There's no way around everybody around it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And people were calling in police reports from like
Speaker 1: five ten blocks away, like other hotels where they were
Speaker 1: saying people were flatiring like what was going on with
Speaker 1: this scenario?
Speaker 3: It was it was like, whoever did it was a
Speaker 3: highly intelligent, uh operation, well thought out and for reasons unknown,
Speaker 3: it was great some kind of distraction, that's for sure.
Speaker 3: And what they did maybe it was a bank robbery.
Speaker 3: It could be. I mean, the Auto and Acky want
Speaker 3: all the gold on earth?
Speaker 4: Don't they get us the gold? Get us the gold
Speaker 4: hidden under the the.
Speaker 1: Is there a vault under the bagio?
Speaker 4: You know, I'm just saying there there there is. In
Speaker 4: the Ocean's movies there is.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sure there was faults under every casino.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have a count room.
Speaker 4: Count room is one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, gentlemen, it's been a really fun discussion. I
Speaker 1: really appreciate all of you guys. Coming in and having
Speaker 1: this this celebration ten k round table panel with me
Speaker 1: and everyone in the chat. I hope you guys have
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Speaker 2: Congratulations too here the next ten thousand.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like the next ten thousand will be easier than
Speaker 4: the first ten thousand, unless, of course, this conversation get
Speaker 4: you completely, which is they've They've given it to Tulsa
Speaker 4: Gabbard and she says, I've been waiting for this.
Speaker 2: Those two. Now, I ain't saying it.
Speaker 1: They've They've lightened up a lot. Too many people are
Speaker 1: talking about this. Not too many big channels are talking
Speaker 1: about it for them to do anything. Uh, Wayne Steiger,
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Speaker 2: R Wayne Steiger right over there on YouTube.
Speaker 1: Sweet thinks so much. Wayne, appreciate your time. Thank you,
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Speaker 4: If I would love it. Please let writer make it happen.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, me too, Thanks so much, Jay, stay with me.
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