1 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,679 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Next Level Soul podcast, where we ask 2 00:00:05,719 --> 00:00:08,720 the big questions about life. Why are we here? 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 2: Is this all? 4 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: There? 5 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 2: Is? 6 00:00:10,759 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: What is my soul's mission? We attempt to answer those 7 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,239 questions and more by bringing you raw and inspiring conversations 8 00:00:18,519 --> 00:00:21,280 with some of the most fascinating and thought provoking guests 9 00:00:21,359 --> 00:00:27,640 on the planet. Today, I am your host, Alex Ferrari. Now, 10 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,359 before we dive into today's conversation, I want to invite 11 00:00:30,359 --> 00:00:34,560 you to experience something truly transformative. 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It's commercial free, 21 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,799 available around the world, and growing every week with new 22 00:01:13,879 --> 00:01:17,079 soul expanding content. So If you're ready to go deeper, 23 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,439 head over to Next Levelsoul dot tv and start streaming 24 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,879 your awakening. Now let's begin today's episode. Disclaimer. The views 25 00:01:24,879 --> 00:01:28,519 and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the 26 00:01:28,599 --> 00:01:32,439 guests and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions 27 00:01:32,799 --> 00:01:35,840 of this show, its host, or any of the companies 28 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,760 they represent. Now today on the show, we welcome back 29 00:01:39,159 --> 00:01:42,640 Matt Cohn. Now, Matt and I are going to have 30 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,680 a deep conversation in which we had at Next Level 31 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:51,319 Soul Studios about soulmates and twin flames, how to find 32 00:01:51,359 --> 00:01:54,599 your soulmate, how to recognize it, what to do internally 33 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,040 to do so, and to have them attract to you. 34 00:01:58,719 --> 00:02:03,439 But also we have an exclusive where Matt reveals that 35 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:08,120 he is now channeling and has always been channeling, but 36 00:02:08,199 --> 00:02:10,479 has not publicly come out and said it before. And 37 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:14,240 in today's episode we talk about that in depth. So 38 00:02:15,159 --> 00:02:18,960 let's dive in. I like to welcome back to the 39 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,800 show returning champion, Matt conn. 40 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 2: How you doing, brother, Thank you, It's an honor to 41 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,759 be here. What an incredible setup you have. 42 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,319 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, my friend. I appreciate that it's 43 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,840 been a long time coming. Man, long time coming. 44 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 2: And I just wanted to start out by saying, because 45 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,599 you know, I've known you for a little bit, and 46 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,759 I just wanted to congratulate you on this incredible success. 47 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,080 And whenever I get to tune in and watch you 48 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:45,120 and and all these wonderful guests, it's such a beautiful 49 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:49,000 level of connection, and I just I love everything you're doing, 50 00:02:49,039 --> 00:02:51,599 and so the chance to come back and spend time 51 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:52,840 with you is truely an honor. 52 00:02:52,879 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: Oh, I truly appreciate that and thank you so much. Well, 53 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,000 I mean, you are a OG, sir, You are a 54 00:02:58,159 --> 00:03:02,520 OG of next level soul. You are episode sixteen. I 55 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,599 think you. I think the first time we interviewed, I 56 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,879 was in my film set of my old podcast because 57 00:03:08,879 --> 00:03:11,680 I hadn't even built a set for this show yet. 58 00:03:11,759 --> 00:03:15,199 And then our second interview we did, I was in 59 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:20,680 my Airbnb in it almost looked like a closet, and 60 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,159 I'm wondering what you're thinking at this boy. You're like 61 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,439 this guy like he's in a closet. I don't understand 62 00:03:26,479 --> 00:03:27,280 what's going on. 63 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 2: I don't know these things. I thought it was such 64 00:03:29,879 --> 00:03:32,919 We had some great, greank conversations, and I think, great 65 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:38,599 guy but honestly, I didn't have any thoughts about those interviews. 66 00:03:38,639 --> 00:03:42,759 That's when I sat stepped into this set and I went, oh. 67 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: No, it's funny. When you walked in, you were like 68 00:03:44,159 --> 00:03:46,120 you saw my office where like the computers are, like, 69 00:03:46,159 --> 00:03:49,039 so are we doing it in here? Are we being 70 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,000 interviewed in here? Like is there a mic anywhere? 71 00:03:51,039 --> 00:03:51,159 Speaker 2: Like? 72 00:03:51,159 --> 00:03:53,159 Speaker 1: Are we I'm like, no, no, dude, we we got 73 00:03:53,159 --> 00:03:54,280 a little something on the. 74 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,599 Speaker 2: Other side of this is this is next level all 75 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,680 this is next level certain time. 76 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,439 Speaker 1: Well, and congratulations to you. You just you're a newly. 77 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: Wet if I'm not mistaken, correct, Yeah, I'm the lord 78 00:04:08,319 --> 00:04:11,800 of the ring. I married h you know, Joey and 79 00:04:11,879 --> 00:04:14,560 I got married on Saint Patrick's Day, which was a 80 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,480 year to the date of the day we met. 81 00:04:16,959 --> 00:04:17,639 Speaker 1: That's amazing. 82 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 2: And we met at a conference, as you know, we're 83 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,519 both speaking on stage. We never met each other, and 84 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,439 we met by the end of the weekend. We both 85 00:04:23,439 --> 00:04:26,519 had promised each other in our next relationship when if 86 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,240 that is, we're going to take it slower than ever. 87 00:04:30,319 --> 00:04:33,920 We promised each other silently. I promised myself this, and 88 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,600 so I met her and then by the end of 89 00:04:35,639 --> 00:04:38,000 the weekend, I was in a committed relationship, which was 90 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:42,160 the opposite of that declaration. 91 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,639 Speaker 1: Well, you know, a year later to get married pretty 92 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,560 pretty quick, my friend, pretty quick. But you know, as 93 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,199 you get older, though, you know, when you know man 94 00:04:50,959 --> 00:04:53,279 and and you guys are both connected a little bit 95 00:04:53,319 --> 00:04:56,279 to the to the to the sour city. Yeah, so 96 00:04:56,319 --> 00:04:57,920 you guys kind of felt that energy and you're like, 97 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,560 why are we wasting time? You know what? 98 00:04:59,639 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 2: Actually it's funny, and she tells this story so well. 99 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:06,279 But when we met, we turned around. We met. Within 100 00:05:06,319 --> 00:05:10,120 a few minutes of talking, literally our energy fields connected 101 00:05:10,199 --> 00:05:12,480 and it was literally like the universe saying, by the way, 102 00:05:13,079 --> 00:05:16,959 you two are together, so you figure it out, You're welcome. Yeah, 103 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,920 process a journal about it whenever you got to do 104 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:21,920 pull cards. But you're together. 105 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,319 Speaker 1: So let me ask you this though. Have you guys 106 00:05:24,399 --> 00:05:25,720 been together in other lifetimes? 107 00:05:25,759 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 2: Is the question I think we have. She has more 108 00:05:27,959 --> 00:05:30,279 of a sense of that. I have a familiarity with her. 109 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,600 There's a felt sense of it. But I went through 110 00:05:33,639 --> 00:05:37,759 an experience, and I think this is maybe I went 111 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,720 through an experience a couple of years ago, because you know, 112 00:05:40,759 --> 00:05:43,720 we've had different interactions over the years, and what's interesting 113 00:05:43,759 --> 00:05:46,360 is I go through so much growth and expansion as 114 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,240 we all do, that every time I meet you, I 115 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,399 feel like I'm meaning you, like as a new version 116 00:05:50,399 --> 00:05:54,519 of myself. Literally I meet myself brand new every single day. 117 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,000 But I went through this experience many years ago of 118 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,600 awakenings where you know, you remember your past lives and oh, 119 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,639 I think I was this character and I remember this memory. 120 00:06:03,439 --> 00:06:06,720 And then I went through an experience a couple of 121 00:06:06,759 --> 00:06:10,560 years ago where it was and I think of levels 122 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,319 of consciousness like floors in a building. So at one floor, 123 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,879 I remember my past lives, some of them at least, 124 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:21,000 and I process that, and I've been here before, and 125 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:25,040 I know there is no death. Li'vee continues all these realizations, 126 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,600 and then I had this experience of going to the 127 00:06:28,639 --> 00:06:34,560 next floor, and I suddenly realized that even the experience 128 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:39,639 of my past lives was just a different dream. And 129 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:44,759 I've now have this lived experience where the past lives 130 00:06:44,759 --> 00:06:48,720 I did remember, the wisdom has been integrated, the wounding 131 00:06:48,759 --> 00:06:52,800 has been healed, and I actually live as this as 132 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,879 if this lifetime is my first and only lifetime, which 133 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,560 then gave me an actual, real experience of what it 134 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,319 means to be reborn, not like in a religious sense, 135 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,639 but what that really means spiritually to be reborn and 136 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,279 to literally be in this lifetime as if it's your 137 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,720 first and only lifetime. And so when I met Joy, 138 00:07:13,439 --> 00:07:17,160 I had I'm in this place where all the all 139 00:07:17,199 --> 00:07:21,240 the sense of past or even past lifetimes is gone. 140 00:07:21,879 --> 00:07:25,000 But there was a familiarity I felt with her for sure. 141 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:29,399 This there was this uh, I know you, where have 142 00:07:29,439 --> 00:07:30,959 you been? Where have you been? 143 00:07:31,639 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: Where have you been? This I felt it with my wife. 144 00:07:33,879 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 2: Is right, Yeah, I've been. I've been looking since I 145 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:42,279 was fourteen years old. And you know, every person you know, 146 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:43,319 are you? 147 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:44,519 Speaker 1: Are you? Are you the one? 148 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 2: Are you? 149 00:07:45,199 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, we went through We went through a lot 150 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,720 of frogs, as they say. Yeah. So it's interesting though, 151 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,480 when you do meet people like that, and it doesn't 152 00:07:53,519 --> 00:07:55,399 have to be romantic, other people like that that. Just 153 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:56,759 people are like, oh where have you been? 154 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 2: Right? 155 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: There's this an automatic connection, an automatic and energy. And 156 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,720 there are people that when you meet them, you're like, oh, 157 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:10,319 get away from me, get away from me. I don't 158 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,399 know what we what we did in an our life, 159 00:08:12,519 --> 00:08:16,040 Just go away. There's one person I won't mention their name. 160 00:08:16,319 --> 00:08:21,040 But I just when I met them, their energy was 161 00:08:21,319 --> 00:08:24,160 so heavy. Like other people around me had no problem 162 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:29,759 with her, yeah, but she was. I was like, I can't, 163 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:35,080 I can't, I can't. She did nothing to me, nothing, no, no, 164 00:08:34,879 --> 00:08:37,519 no mean word has ever been spoken to me. Not 165 00:08:37,639 --> 00:08:40,279 an action has been done to me. Nothing, But there 166 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:44,440 was something about the energy. I was just like, I 167 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,759 got to no, no, do not want to hang out 168 00:08:47,799 --> 00:08:48,559 with her anymore. 169 00:08:48,879 --> 00:08:49,519 Speaker 2: I can't. 170 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,279 Speaker 1: So it goes both ways. It goes both ways. So 171 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,240 let me ask you, since we were talking about your 172 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,919 your new found love, your long lost love, a lot 173 00:08:59,919 --> 00:09:05,000 of people watching are trying to find their divine connection, 174 00:09:05,399 --> 00:09:09,879 connect their their other half in this life. What advice 175 00:09:09,919 --> 00:09:13,879 do you have for people who are like we were searching. 176 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:18,000 I mean, I was dirty and I found mine and 177 00:09:18,039 --> 00:09:20,320 that's it was a good, good amount of time. Sure, 178 00:09:20,399 --> 00:09:24,679 and you just recently found yours. Yeah, forty seven exactly. 179 00:09:24,759 --> 00:09:27,559 So it's different for everybody. Some people are lucky to 180 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,440 find them in high school. Some people find them at 181 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,080 eighty right, you know, which is upsetting. 182 00:09:33,639 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 2: Sometimes it's the tunnel. 183 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:40,039 Speaker 1: It's as you're going through the tunnel. Wow, come on. 184 00:09:40,639 --> 00:09:43,639 Speaker 2: I'll see in the next one. 185 00:09:42,919 --> 00:09:46,799 Speaker 1: So what advice do you have for people who are 186 00:09:46,879 --> 00:09:51,240 just in just looking and looking and looking. I could 187 00:09:51,279 --> 00:09:52,279 tell you one thing, though. 188 00:09:52,159 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, well I have very specific advice. 189 00:09:53,759 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: What would you say, Well, the thing I did is 190 00:09:55,759 --> 00:09:58,799 like I stopped looking. Yea, I stopped looking. I'll tell 191 00:09:58,799 --> 00:10:02,519 you exactly how it happened. I'd been single for three years, 192 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:07,559 broke up with a bad relationship, and I was I 193 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,600 did a walk about in Mexico. I went down there, 194 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,960 went to the pyramids, and I did by myself. Yeah, 195 00:10:14,399 --> 00:10:17,360 early years ago, went down by myself and went to 196 00:10:17,399 --> 00:10:19,080 all the things. I just had like a walk about, 197 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:20,759 a spiritual walk about, even though I didn't know what 198 00:10:20,879 --> 00:10:23,200 a spiritual walk about, but kind of a spiritual walk about. 199 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,519 And on the plane back, I just said to God, 200 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:28,960 you know, God, it'd be kind of nice if I 201 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,320 can find someone who I could love and could love 202 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,960 me back. That was the order I placed. Three weeks later, 203 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,200 she showed up. Three weeks later, she showed up, and 204 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:42,240 we've been together ever since. I love that. So we'll 205 00:10:42,279 --> 00:10:48,279 be right back after a word from our sponsor, and 206 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:52,559 now back to the show. I stopped looking. That was 207 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,559 my because I was always like, hello, you are you, it, 208 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,519 are you? It? Are you? It? And that energy I 209 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,159 don't think, at least for me, it didn't work for 210 00:11:02,279 --> 00:11:04,720 trying to find that other person the moment I said 211 00:11:05,639 --> 00:11:09,120 I'm good on my own. It'd be nice if I 212 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,600 could find that other half now, not like I need 213 00:11:11,639 --> 00:11:14,879 you to live more like you compliment the way and 214 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,440 walking this, I need someone to walk with me next 215 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,039 to me as a journey. Does that make sense? 216 00:11:20,159 --> 00:11:25,039 Speaker 2: It does? I think that part of the confusion. And 217 00:11:25,039 --> 00:11:26,759 I have a couple of very specific piece of advice 218 00:11:26,799 --> 00:11:29,480 on this that I think are maybe not expected, but 219 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,919 this it will be the truth of what I've lived out. 220 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:38,039 I think that people think that either looking for your 221 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:42,879 beloved is going to be what causes you to find them, 222 00:11:43,039 --> 00:11:45,360 And usually when you're looking for your beloved, you're trying 223 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:51,679 to cast someone into the role they're not meant to play, right, 224 00:11:51,799 --> 00:11:54,679 So then you treat someone who isn't your beloved as 225 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,559 your beloved, and you know, we can see all the 226 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:00,159 sitcoms that are created out of that. So I think 227 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,600 there's an idea that looking for my beloved is going 228 00:12:02,639 --> 00:12:04,600 to help me stack the deck. But then the other 229 00:12:04,639 --> 00:12:08,799 spiritual superstition is looking is what's blocking me. What I 230 00:12:08,799 --> 00:12:12,840 would say is that neither looking is blocking or helping you. 231 00:12:13,519 --> 00:12:15,840 It's just what you do to pass the time until 232 00:12:15,879 --> 00:12:19,559 the moment arrives. So you had an intuition that said 233 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,120 I'm going to meet my wife soon, and so you 234 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:26,759 process that intuition by declaring I'd like to meet that one, 235 00:12:26,799 --> 00:12:29,000 and then three weeks later she entered your life. So 236 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,360 for me, I look at that, and it's very similar 237 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,600 with law of attraction. There are some people who think 238 00:12:34,639 --> 00:12:37,240 they're creating at a thin air, and actually what they're 239 00:12:37,279 --> 00:12:40,519 doing is they're intuiting that it's near, and then their 240 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,320 declaration that I'm going to create it or that it's 241 00:12:43,399 --> 00:12:46,519 here is actually the acceptance of I accept this as 242 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,799 coming near, and I'm willing to choose that timeline. So 243 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,240 I had been looking for my beloved since I was, 244 00:12:53,279 --> 00:12:56,720 you know, like fourteen years old, and I had heard 245 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,039 so many times from people, oh, don't look for the one, 246 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,440 so I would not look for the one as a 247 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,799 way of trying to stack the deck to bring the 248 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,600 one to me. So one eyes closed, not looking for 249 00:13:07,639 --> 00:13:10,399 the one, one eye open, making sure I don't miss her, 250 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:14,559 So still looking by not looking and I'd been in 251 00:13:14,639 --> 00:13:17,960 relationships and they were all wonderful and preparing me for 252 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,000 the kind of relationship I wasn't meant to be in. 253 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,799 And I got to a place in my life where 254 00:13:22,879 --> 00:13:24,759 I thought, you know, if it's not going to be 255 00:13:24,799 --> 00:13:27,120 the kind of relationship that I've always thought I was 256 00:13:27,159 --> 00:13:33,120 meant to have. I'm okay alone. I'm successful, I'm good alone, 257 00:13:33,879 --> 00:13:37,320 I cook incredibly, I live a very beautiful life. I 258 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,320 serve the world, and that's my one of my greatest passions. 259 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,799 So I had let my work and my service to 260 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:50,240 the humanity be my beloved until or if it was 261 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,519 meant to happen. And when it was getting closer to 262 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:59,279 well as I was, I was kind of out of 263 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,440 my last really relationship before Joy and I met, what 264 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,960 I decided to do. So there's two things that happen. 265 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:14,399 One is I decided, based on an intuition that I'm 266 00:14:14,519 --> 00:14:19,720 going to live like a single married man a single husband. 267 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,200 So I'm married to my wife. She hasn't materialized in 268 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:27,480 my reality yet, but I'm not going to even go 269 00:14:27,559 --> 00:14:30,519 on a date with a woman unless I have a 270 00:14:30,639 --> 00:14:33,519 sense that she could actually be the one, or else 271 00:14:33,519 --> 00:14:38,440 I'm going to treat a woman in a way that 272 00:14:38,559 --> 00:14:41,200 isn't the role she's meant to play. And I felt 273 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:45,159 like like I would be cheating on my wife. And 274 00:14:45,559 --> 00:14:48,159 at first I was like, that's either super romantic or 275 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:55,080 I'm doubling down on my weird, insane stuff. But it 276 00:14:55,120 --> 00:15:00,759 felt really true of I don't want to call play 277 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,639 a relationship. I don't want to role play this. I 278 00:15:03,759 --> 00:15:06,519 want to actually either be in the relationship I'm meant 279 00:15:06,519 --> 00:15:09,200 to be in or not at all. So I would 280 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,200 meet people and there'd be interest, and I would know 281 00:15:12,919 --> 00:15:16,840 this would be an exploration, but this is not the 282 00:15:16,879 --> 00:15:19,639 one for me, and so I wouldn't even engage in 283 00:15:19,679 --> 00:15:22,879 a first date because I would only go on a 284 00:15:22,919 --> 00:15:26,200 first date with someone I actually thought could be my wife. 285 00:15:26,279 --> 00:15:27,279 So it was like a courtship. 286 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,039 Speaker 1: How and what age did you come up with this? 287 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 2: I mean this was a couple. This was maybe five 288 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:37,080 or so years ago, so yeah, yeah, yeah, I was 289 00:15:37,879 --> 00:15:44,960 really serious, and that for me gave me a sense 290 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:50,320 of closure. And another thing is when when it got 291 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,200 close to meeting Joy and I didn't know this. I 292 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,000 was taken through an experience with my guides and they 293 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,480 kind of explained to me something really interesting. And they 294 00:15:58,519 --> 00:16:03,360 had said, you know, everyone thinks birth is followed by death, 295 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,759 and that's why everyone's afraid of death. It's the unknown. 296 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:10,080 But actually death comes before birth, right there's the death 297 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:14,240 of being in the womb as one is born. There's 298 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:18,480 the death of the death of being the seed before 299 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,120 you blossom the flower. So death actually occurs. 300 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: You know. 301 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,159 Speaker 2: Joy would say entropy, that's a beautiful word. She uses 302 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,080 a lot that I've learned from her, but she would 303 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,960 say that, you know, it's a true thing that death 304 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,000 occurs in order for birth to dawn. And so my 305 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,360 guides had said to me, you're going to meet your beloved, 306 00:16:37,679 --> 00:16:41,120 but there's going to be a time where those who 307 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:48,279 come together are separated, whether by death. And my guide 308 00:16:48,279 --> 00:16:51,399 said to me, Melchisedek said, even if you hold hands 309 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,159 and walk into the gates of heaven together, there's going 310 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,519 to be a moment somewhere where you go your separate ways. 311 00:16:58,799 --> 00:17:02,600 And so I was walked through a process of processing 312 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:06,359 the death of my wife as a way of opening 313 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,519 up to being able to receive her in a way 314 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,640 where I wouldn't give my power away to the relationship. 315 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,880 And we're having this relationship wouldn't then make me afraid 316 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,880 of losing something, or that I'd be a people pleaser, 317 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,000 or that I'd figure out what can I do to 318 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,160 keep her all the things that we do when our 319 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,680 ego gets involved. And so I was taken through this 320 00:17:29,799 --> 00:17:36,880 really incredible experience of in order to be the version 321 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:43,079 of myself that she's welcoming into her reality, and in 322 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,839 order to welcome in the version of her that I'm 323 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:50,240 welcoming in, I have to allow that she and I 324 00:17:50,319 --> 00:17:53,799 that haven't even come to be, to perish. And I 325 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:58,359 processed the death of her, and for me it was 326 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:03,799 the death of not only us, but I had been 327 00:18:03,839 --> 00:18:07,039 looking for my wife for so many years. I also processed, 328 00:18:08,519 --> 00:18:10,559 this may not be what's meant to be for me. 329 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,880 So I processed the death of the fantasy of my 330 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,759 wife that in order for me to meet her in reality, 331 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,039 I have to let the fantasy die. I have to 332 00:18:20,079 --> 00:18:26,559 stop keeping myself company with visions of me and my wife, 333 00:18:26,559 --> 00:18:29,079 and I had to let the fantasy die. And so 334 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,079 I went through this very deep experience of letting the 335 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:38,440 fantasy and whatever will be in reality to die and 336 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,359 to go through that, and on the other end of that, 337 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,480 I became a very different version of myself, who at 338 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:52,720 that point was so whole and was so embodied. And 339 00:18:52,759 --> 00:18:56,559 I remember I went to this speaking event in Arizona. 340 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,480 I was going to be a keynote speaker, and I 341 00:18:59,519 --> 00:19:01,839 had to go to the breakfast thing, you know, and 342 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,720 meet all the other speakers whatever, which and I remember 343 00:19:06,079 --> 00:19:07,839 I was in such a funny place when I went 344 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,440 into that breakfast. I was just like in my mind, like, 345 00:19:11,039 --> 00:19:13,519 I hope no one bats their eyes at me. I 346 00:19:13,559 --> 00:19:16,720 am so not in this place, and you know, I'm 347 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,680 done and I'm complete, and you know, all the big declarations. 348 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:25,200 And I walked in and she and I wound up meeting. 349 00:19:25,839 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: Like. 350 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,079 Speaker 2: She turned around and I and we met, and within 351 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:33,279 a few minutes our energy fields just clicked and we 352 00:19:33,319 --> 00:19:36,240 sat down at the same table. We were both joking 353 00:19:36,279 --> 00:19:39,240 that this you know, pre speaker thing felt like traffic 354 00:19:39,279 --> 00:19:43,680 school and what is this? And by the end of 355 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:49,359 that breakfast, we found ourselves just in this you know, Wow, 356 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:54,200 this connection is instantaneous on every level, not just like 357 00:19:54,319 --> 00:19:57,720 the spiritual connection like I think we're supposed to be together, 358 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,440 but you know, the attraction and everything. And then she 359 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,079 was speaking that weekend, I was speaking that weekend, and 360 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,640 that weekend we spent getting to know each other, and 361 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,079 by the end of the weekend we were in a 362 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:14,960 committed relationship because we had both said that we both 363 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:21,000 didn't want to explore it unless this was fully committed 364 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,400 journey together and if I felt that this actually could 365 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,680 be my wife. 366 00:20:26,839 --> 00:20:29,319 Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor, 367 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,240 And now back to the show. 368 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:41,079 Speaker 2: I don't casually date, I don't do any of that stuff. 369 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,200 I want to get to know her and I want 370 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:44,960 to focus on that, and I want to see what 371 00:20:45,039 --> 00:20:50,200 this is. And she was of the same mindset, and 372 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,880 so we got into a relationship. We traveled back and 373 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:58,000 forth from Arizona to Seattle a few times. She moved 374 00:20:58,039 --> 00:21:02,359 in months later, and on the year anniversary of the 375 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,880 day we met, we were married. And it's been the 376 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:13,920 greatest relationship that I've ever known. But and I'm sure 377 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,440 she'd probably say the same hope, you know, I'm sure 378 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,400 she was saying exception, Alex. I'm sure she would say 379 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:23,720 the same thing, Alex, Wait, wait, let me muscle testing. Yepy, 380 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:28,880 she would she would say that. But I hope, so, 381 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,680 I hope so if not, this is a really bad 382 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,279 success at a sequel. If not, this is gonna be 383 00:21:35,519 --> 00:21:43,079 next level soul when spirituality needs six needs delusion. 384 00:21:43,519 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: Absolutely right. 385 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,279 Speaker 2: So, but it is the best relationship I've ever been in, 386 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:54,720 and it's because of the journey that I went through 387 00:21:55,279 --> 00:22:02,400 to become the version of myself that we were both 388 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:06,279 meant to be together. She had a similar experience of 389 00:22:06,759 --> 00:22:09,400 I'm only going to take seriously a man I think 390 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,119 is my husband. So we were both living as single 391 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,079 married people. And the reason I think that's incredible advice 392 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:21,359 is thank you is because when you like, if you're 393 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,799 a single person and you're just dating, well, let me 394 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,240 then back up and say this, there's a way that 395 00:22:27,319 --> 00:22:30,279 the soul connects, and there's a way that ego engages. 396 00:22:31,039 --> 00:22:37,039 So it's it's it's very telling. So when the when 397 00:22:37,079 --> 00:22:40,319 the soul connects, the soul says, I don't lean in 398 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:49,559 unless it's a yes on every level. The ego says, 399 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,759 I lean in as if it's a yes and hope 400 00:22:53,759 --> 00:22:57,160 for the best when I'm not sure. So what the 401 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:02,119 ego doesn't know is the phrase I don't know. If 402 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,559 you hear it, you hear no, you don't hear I 403 00:23:05,599 --> 00:23:09,240 don't yes, so the ego says, well, but we don't 404 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:13,319 want to just judge the person. We don't want to who. 405 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,839 Speaker 1: Knows, sure she works in the mafia. Who knows? I 406 00:23:16,839 --> 00:23:18,480 mean she's I could change her right. 407 00:23:19,519 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 2: Sure, they're sure they're holding a butcher knife. 408 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: But I mean, yeah, over your neck while you sleep, Yeah, 409 00:23:25,039 --> 00:23:27,359 I mean it's I'm sure it's. 410 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 2: Everyone has a tick. Everyone, Everyone has the thing they do. 411 00:23:32,599 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: You know what, that's how they stay safe. And that's 412 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,359 another thing though that you know, we're joking about it. 413 00:23:40,519 --> 00:23:46,680 But the rationalization of the other person. And man, I 414 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,319 don't know if you went through that, but you start rationalizing, 415 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,880 you like the fear comes in, like I'm afraid of 416 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:59,480 being alone. It's just a butcher knife. I'm sure that you, 417 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,000 you know, to the money out of my account for 418 00:24:01,039 --> 00:24:03,799 a good reason, whatever that is. And it could be 419 00:24:03,839 --> 00:24:09,039 here or her, everybody please on both sides. But that 420 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:13,400 rationalization is powerful and gets people into a lot of trouble. 421 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,759 Got me into trouble. I think it probably got you 422 00:24:15,759 --> 00:24:18,799 into trouble. Early on, we all rationalized because we were 423 00:24:18,799 --> 00:24:23,119 their fear of being alone, fear of being rejected, fear 424 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,880 of every all the fears start coming in and in 425 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,799 your ego it's like, well, this is't that course, you know, 426 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,039 and all this kind of stuff is something that we 427 00:24:33,079 --> 00:24:35,000 really need to keep an eye on when you're walking in. 428 00:24:35,799 --> 00:24:39,359 Like when I walked in to my relationship with my wife, 429 00:24:39,839 --> 00:24:42,960 it was it was soul level. There's no question. Before 430 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,440 I even understood what that was, we just knew it. 431 00:24:45,559 --> 00:24:48,720 We both knew it. She couldn't wrap her head around me. 432 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,079 I was We're so opposite, so she couldn't wrap her 433 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,119 head around me. Because one moment, I am like Robin 434 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,799 Williams bouncing off the walls our first date. I just 435 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,440 and she's like, what is happening? I like him? But Jesus. 436 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:09,319 The next one, I'm sitting in a bookstore with her 437 00:25:09,839 --> 00:25:14,720 talking deep things and she's like, who is this guy? 438 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,000 Couldn't grasp it. But I walked into it just I 439 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,119 just knew. And that's I think when you know, when 440 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:26,119 you have that inclination. I just didn't care anymore. I'm like, 441 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,799 I'm going to be me, right, you know, I'm going 442 00:25:28,839 --> 00:25:31,000 to be me and it's gonna be what it's going 443 00:25:31,039 --> 00:25:31,240 to be. 444 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,039 Speaker 2: Well, I think that's how Joy and I were, you know, 445 00:25:33,079 --> 00:25:36,480 I man, know, we were we we just were ourselves 446 00:25:37,039 --> 00:25:41,720 and we're both very transparent people, so there wasn't you 447 00:25:41,759 --> 00:25:43,880 know it was. It was more a conversation of I 448 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,920 really like you, how do you feel about me? And 449 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,440 it was so refreshing, right, because that's how that's how 450 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,279 we both thought. We're both very honest people. 451 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: And you didn't wait two days to call her back. 452 00:25:56,319 --> 00:25:58,720 That's a room, man, that's a dude rule. Two days 453 00:25:58,799 --> 00:26:01,119 if you want to really make her wait five days 454 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:02,480 because that's smart. 455 00:26:04,039 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, with a fifty divorce rate. 456 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,599 Speaker 1: Right. So that those are the rules, the guys, those 457 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,000 are the rules. Are the rules if you want a fiorce. Right, 458 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,200 we're not even getting off the not even getting out 459 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:13,680 of the gate. 460 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 2: Here's the thing about my rules, which are made up. 461 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:21,519 But if I if I like when Joanna went on 462 00:26:21,559 --> 00:26:28,519 a date and we parted, I texted her yeah two 463 00:26:28,559 --> 00:26:31,519 minutes later to say, I had a great time. Please 464 00:26:31,599 --> 00:26:33,640 let me know when you get home. I'd love to 465 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:38,720 see you again. Right immediately, old school immediately school love immediately. 466 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,079 Like if someone here's here's a dating rule. If they 467 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:47,039 can't handle your inner sixth grader, let your inner sixth 468 00:26:47,039 --> 00:26:49,839 resent of text I like you. That was I had 469 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:50,480 a great time. 470 00:26:51,519 --> 00:26:52,839 Speaker 1: Do I have to hit you with a magazine to 471 00:26:52,839 --> 00:26:54,480 get your attention right? 472 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 2: Exactly? 473 00:26:56,559 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: To make me act weird? 474 00:26:59,559 --> 00:27:03,559 Speaker 2: And we can act weird, but so you know, so 475 00:27:03,759 --> 00:27:07,599 we both lived as single married people. We both and 476 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,039 so that's the thing. The ego says, if I'm not sure, 477 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,319 I'm going to keep saying yes and create a relationship 478 00:27:13,319 --> 00:27:16,640 with someone that I haven't really gotten a solid yes around. 479 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,880 I'm afraid of missing out. I'm afraid of being alone, 480 00:27:20,319 --> 00:27:23,839 and so we cast people in the wrong roles and 481 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,079 that's when you get down into a relationship and one 482 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,559 day you wake up and you go, I just can't 483 00:27:27,559 --> 00:27:30,599 do it, or you know, all these different things and 484 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:35,720 you wind up hurting people. And so for me, I 485 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:41,279 just didn't want to follow that energy again. The soul says, 486 00:27:42,319 --> 00:27:46,720 until I get a yes, I don't lean out of friendship. 487 00:27:47,319 --> 00:27:49,839 Like if someone goes, oh, I'm feeling this connection with you, 488 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,599 well I'm not sure what I'm feeling or so far 489 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,400 it's just a friendship. That's the soul and its confidence. 490 00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:02,880 The ego says, well, I'm looking for a partner, a 491 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,279 sign that this is clearly got. 492 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: The sign, there's a sign or spirit told me or 493 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,279 this kind of thing. But it's using the ego, it's 494 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,799 using terminology to make you because you don't feel that. 495 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,759 Speaker 2: You're thinking that, yeah, self fulfilling prophecy. 496 00:28:19,519 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 1: It's thinking, you're not feeling it. And there is a 497 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:27,519 there's a distinguation, distinguation. I can say the word distinguished 498 00:28:27,519 --> 00:28:31,559 between those two things. Thank you that the mental and 499 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,400 the feeling. And boy, I lived up here most of 500 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:35,880 my time. 501 00:28:36,039 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 2: Well, and you know when you go from you know 502 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:43,039 when when when people go from identifying with critical thinking 503 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:48,039 as their motive motive function most of their life, and 504 00:28:48,079 --> 00:28:53,000 then you take in spiritual concepts and it goes from 505 00:28:53,039 --> 00:28:57,279 critical thinking to spiritually critical thinking. Then the critical thinking 506 00:28:57,359 --> 00:29:00,480 mind is the one that thinks it's observing all the signs, 507 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,559 but it's actually piecing together a self fulfilling prophecy. 508 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: That's a scary thing. That's a scary spiritual what was it? Spiritual? 509 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:09,759 Speaker 2: The spiritual critical thinking? 510 00:29:09,799 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: Thank you, spiritual critical thinking. 511 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 2: It's called it's also called magical thinking. 512 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: Magical thinking. 513 00:29:14,759 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 2: And what's interesting, And you know, Joy and I both 514 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,720 are intuitive. We both channel you. 515 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,759 Speaker 1: Guys, and you guys have the you could easily fall 516 00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:25,079 into that world so quickly we we could. 517 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 2: But what's interesting is that it is so easy for 518 00:29:31,119 --> 00:29:34,079 and again, the ego doesn't do it to hurt anyone. 519 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,039 The ego is trying to be a helper. So it goes, 520 00:29:38,359 --> 00:29:42,039 you're so into spirituality, and you've convinced me that you're 521 00:29:42,079 --> 00:29:46,000 on some sort of mysterious Easter egg hunt. So I'm 522 00:29:46,039 --> 00:29:48,000 going to help you find the eggs, even though I'm 523 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,559 going to invent them. And it's then we train our 524 00:29:51,559 --> 00:29:57,240 egos to be these searchers and seekers of spiritual signs. 525 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,920 It's different when it's a sign. Like when it's a sign, 526 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,319 it's so obvious you don't even know what to do 527 00:30:04,359 --> 00:30:08,119 with yourself. It's so just like like your mind goes blank. 528 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,400 There are signs in the universe. But then there are 529 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,839 the signs that we are kind of piecing together, Like 530 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,720 you know, oh, I turn on the car radio and 531 00:30:19,839 --> 00:30:21,400 there's a song on the radio. 532 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,519 Speaker 1: Well, obviously, I mean obviously. 533 00:30:24,079 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 2: And if it's Mariah Carey, w. 534 00:30:25,559 --> 00:30:28,319 Speaker 1: Is Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston, Celein beyond. 535 00:30:28,039 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 2: Right and well Brian Adams, but Brian Adams back in 536 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,759 the day, Brian Adams everything I do, I do for you. 537 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:39,279 He is an archangel, sir, Yes, so, and I had 538 00:30:39,279 --> 00:30:42,559 been someone early in my career where I had gotten 539 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,119 I had understood signs, and I started to know the 540 00:30:46,119 --> 00:30:50,599 difference between the universe bringing me a sign and then 541 00:30:50,839 --> 00:30:54,359 looking for signs as a way of trying to keep myself. 542 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,400 So I so even in spirituality, we can use fantasy 543 00:31:00,119 --> 00:31:04,039 you keep ourselves company as we process the loneliness of 544 00:31:04,039 --> 00:31:07,880 our own separation from Source. Right, and so I had 545 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:13,240 gotten so whole in myself even after years and years 546 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:13,960 of awakening. 547 00:31:15,799 --> 00:31:18,319 Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor. 548 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,240 And now back to the show. 549 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:31,359 Speaker 2: And when Joy and I met, I always say, you know, 550 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:36,880 we met, obviously we fell in love, But when we 551 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,119 fell in love, we didn't just fall in love with 552 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,519 each other physically and emotionally mentally, We fell in love 553 00:31:44,599 --> 00:31:50,960 with each other's connection and devotion to Source. When we met, 554 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,160 we showed each other our devotion to God. And that's 555 00:31:55,759 --> 00:31:59,839 when two people attracted to one another became husband and 556 00:32:00,119 --> 00:32:04,319 wife in the first ten minutes of meeting. And that's 557 00:32:04,359 --> 00:32:06,880 now our life absolutely beautiful. 558 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: I hope that helps a couple people out there, because 559 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,720 I wish I would have heard this conversation in my 560 00:32:10,759 --> 00:32:15,799 twenties or thirties, right, you know, yeah, honestly, well, it's 561 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,720 it's power. It's powerful stuff, and so many people are looking. 562 00:32:19,319 --> 00:32:22,680 I'd love that. I'd love the idea that this this 563 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,359 spiritual critical thinking, yes, and that the egos use the 564 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,079 spiritual concepts. And you're like, well, you know, I did 565 00:32:30,079 --> 00:32:32,640 everything I was supposed to do. I burned the sage. 566 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,680 You know, I'm wearing the right crystals. I don't really 567 00:32:36,759 --> 00:32:40,039 understand why, you know, you know, the psychic at the 568 00:32:40,079 --> 00:32:43,240 carnival said, I can do like I'm supposed to have 569 00:32:44,039 --> 00:32:46,319 he's coming or she's coming, and I'm supposed to have 570 00:32:46,319 --> 00:32:50,000 three kids with them, like that kind of stuff. But 571 00:32:50,079 --> 00:32:52,200 when you meet the real one, I think you and 572 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,480 I are both lucky enough to have met that person. 573 00:32:56,319 --> 00:33:02,079 It is so different. It feels so different then everything 574 00:33:02,079 --> 00:33:04,880 else you've experienced prior to that. And even if you 575 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:09,799 can't articulate what it is like when I first saw her, 576 00:33:10,319 --> 00:33:13,400 because we were hooked up. My mom hooked us up. 577 00:33:14,039 --> 00:33:17,000 My mom set us up, which is a miracle in itself. 578 00:33:17,759 --> 00:33:19,839 She was trying to get me married off. And when 579 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,920 we when I saw her coming out of her house. 580 00:33:24,319 --> 00:33:26,720 I there was just just I've seen her. I saw 581 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,440 pictures of her. We spoke on the phone just before FaceTime, 582 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,279 and I just I just like, oh, well, there you are. 583 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,119 And as the conversations kept going, I was like, oh, okay, 584 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,240 don't get me wrong. I was still terrified. I was 585 00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:44,240 still terrified. I was terrified, but not that much, not 586 00:33:44,839 --> 00:33:47,519 enough to screw things up. But in the back of 587 00:33:47,519 --> 00:33:49,319 my head like, don't get hurt. Oh my god, this 588 00:33:49,359 --> 00:33:54,039 and that. But that's natural, especially when you're younger. But 589 00:33:54,119 --> 00:33:56,039 when I saw her, I just like, oh, there you are. 590 00:33:56,079 --> 00:33:58,200 And as we started talking more and more, you know, 591 00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,559 we went on our first date the next day. We 592 00:33:59,599 --> 00:34:01,839 went on our a date a few days may, a 593 00:34:01,839 --> 00:34:03,680 third day. It was just like boom, boom boom. And 594 00:34:04,119 --> 00:34:06,559 within a few months you moved in and we were 595 00:34:06,599 --> 00:34:09,719 off and running. It was it was. It was scary, 596 00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:13,199 but I just like, oh, it's okay, it's good. It's 597 00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:15,519 just the way it's supposed to be. And I was 598 00:34:15,559 --> 00:34:20,559 not next level souling. I was was not I you know, 599 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,599 I think I might have started reading Autobiography of a 600 00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:25,400 Yoga at that point. I had not gotten through it 601 00:34:25,519 --> 00:34:27,880 yet because it was too woo woo for me at 602 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,239 that time. So it was not like I had all 603 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,280 this stuff in me. I just knew sure. And that's 604 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,159 something you can't articulate with the ego. 605 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 2: You just can't no, you can't well. And so I 606 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,079 think the advice, you know, is, if there's any part 607 00:34:41,079 --> 00:34:43,239 of you that's when you're meeting someone that says I 608 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,400 don't know, that means do not move past a friendship 609 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,400 or an acquaintance ship until it's a yes. So we 610 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,039 don't lean into a yes until it's a yes. I 611 00:34:53,079 --> 00:34:56,559 don't know means right now I don't know means no, 612 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,320 and it could change, of course, but I I don't 613 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,639 know is the same as a no. That's the best device. 614 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,519 The other thing that I think is interesting is that 615 00:35:06,519 --> 00:35:09,400 people get caught up in their critical thinking mind right, 616 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,559 which what the way I would describe the ego is 617 00:35:13,519 --> 00:35:18,920 a tendency to lean on critical thinking as your mind's 618 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,280 mode of operation, right and spiritual wal it's very common 619 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:22,920 to say, oh, the mind's the problem. The mind's not 620 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:27,400 the problem. The mind is a genius creation. Right. If 621 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,519 you have a high performance vehicle, but you only know 622 00:35:31,559 --> 00:35:33,519 how to drive it in certain modes, you're not going 623 00:35:33,559 --> 00:35:35,280 to get the most out of it. So in the 624 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,239 same way, the mind is incredible, but when you're only 625 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:44,079 using critical thinking, you're using a very small band with 626 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,400 right and so I think, instead of trying to go, 627 00:35:48,519 --> 00:35:52,440 how do I know this is the one? The one 628 00:35:53,639 --> 00:36:00,199 can't be denied? Yes, So if you're not sure, I 629 00:36:00,199 --> 00:36:02,639 break it up with them, I say jokingly. At the 630 00:36:02,679 --> 00:36:06,880 same time, what Joy and I have. Neither of us 631 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,599 could deny. We even both walked away going Okay, this 632 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,639 is this is really, this is much. This is much. 633 00:36:14,639 --> 00:36:18,719 We're in Sedona. It's probably the vortex whatever. Maybe it's 634 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:23,360 the salary juice I promise myself i'd never buy. Maybe 635 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,760 it's a combination of things. And we both tried to 636 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:31,599 rationalize our way out of this. But the one can't 637 00:36:31,639 --> 00:36:32,320 be denied. 638 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,599 Speaker 1: That's such a beautiful in your Absolutely yes, I should 639 00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:39,519 be a T shirt. The one cannot be denied. Absolutely true, 640 00:36:39,559 --> 00:36:42,599 because when you're when you do meet them, it's just 641 00:36:42,679 --> 00:36:47,679 it's just there's this poll, there's magnetic thing, but you 642 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,800 have and you're just like, oh, you're my person, that's right, 643 00:36:50,199 --> 00:36:51,360 Oh you're you're my person. 644 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:51,679 Speaker 2: Yeah. 645 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: Period, you're my person. Got it, that's right, got it. Now, 646 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,599 it's not gonna be smooth sail in the entire Now, 647 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,159 we're human beings. We all have our baggage, we all 648 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,719 have our stuff. Sure, but when you're with them, it 649 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,840 just it's like this, It runs like this a little 650 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,480 bit as opposed to Rocky, at least from my experience. 651 00:37:12,639 --> 00:37:13,599 I've been on both. 652 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 2: Versions absolutely well. And I think, you know, the ego 653 00:37:17,639 --> 00:37:22,559 will say, who do I desire? Right, That's that's the framework, 654 00:37:22,559 --> 00:37:25,360 who do I desire? But I think the deeper question 655 00:37:25,519 --> 00:37:30,320 is who do I desire growing with? Yeah, Joy and 656 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,159 I desire growing with each other. You and your wife 657 00:37:33,199 --> 00:37:35,559 desire growing with each other. So what Joy and I 658 00:37:35,599 --> 00:37:37,760 go through in our lives. I mean, I have never 659 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,760 won children, I have never had children. She has two 660 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:47,199 grown children. I'm now a stepfather, I'm a step grandfather. 661 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,599 I'm the dad to a puppy, a cat, and a dog. 662 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,960 And I went from being this guy who was like, 663 00:37:55,159 --> 00:37:56,280 you know, I don't think. 664 00:37:56,119 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 1: Being wolf wolf wolf baby. 665 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 2: You're right, I'm gonna dedicate my self to my service 666 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,559 to the world, my you know, help other people with 667 00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:07,599 their lives in that way. And I had this list 668 00:38:07,639 --> 00:38:14,440 of here's what I won't do. She destroyed that because 669 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,480 the one can't be denied. And now I'm stepfather. I 670 00:38:18,519 --> 00:38:22,880 love the role I'm playing. The children I have you know, 671 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,639 they're grown, they're adults, but we have a great relationship. 672 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,199 And I'm I'm finding myself growing in a level of 673 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,960 embodiment that is such an interesting integration of my entire 674 00:38:35,119 --> 00:38:39,559 journey of awakenings and and you know, of waking up 675 00:38:39,599 --> 00:38:44,519 and growing up and all these course corrective experiences. And 676 00:38:44,639 --> 00:38:49,199 on paper, I would have said nope, nope, nope, no, 677 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,199 but the one can't be denied. 678 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,800 Speaker 1: Listen, so I promise you. If my list was on 679 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,679 the on the table and my wife was looking at 680 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,320 it before meeting me, she's like, oh, absolutely, he has 681 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,039 a life size Yoda. What's a Yoda? 682 00:39:02,159 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, what's data? 683 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,079 Speaker 1: Which is a true story, by the way. 684 00:39:05,159 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 685 00:39:05,559 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 1: She called her Jodah for a while, Yodah Yodah because 686 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,599 she had noice like old lady sitting in the corner, 687 00:39:09,679 --> 00:39:11,960 I swear to got And she was talking to a 688 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,880 friend of hers and her friends like you will refer 689 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,599 to him as Master Yoda, and she's. 690 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:16,039 Speaker 2: Like you too. 691 00:39:17,199 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 1: You two to you all together, you geek say oh yeah, 692 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,599 oh yeah, this long story so on paper, didn't I 693 00:39:23,639 --> 00:39:25,920 didn't definitely make sense in her world. There's no question 694 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,639 film filmmaker doesn't have a steady job, goes from job 695 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,599 to job, money comes in and out. 696 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 2: Wanting no, no way, no way. 697 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,039 Speaker 1: But the one right cannot be doing. 698 00:39:37,639 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 2: So if people are going on dates and trying to 699 00:39:40,559 --> 00:39:45,360 piece meal relationships together and trying to make it work. 700 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,719 And then the other thing is if you're too busy 701 00:39:48,199 --> 00:39:51,599 being in relationship with people's potential and not being aware 702 00:39:51,639 --> 00:39:53,960 of the reality. And here's here's what I did in 703 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,920 my past. I'll be honest about this, which is a 704 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,159 funny phrase, be honest as if I've been lying the 705 00:39:59,199 --> 00:39:59,519 whole time. 706 00:39:59,559 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 1: Exactly right. 707 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,760 Speaker 2: But so I'm now going to find with the hounumoy 708 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,239 if we get to talk for a sea. But you know, 709 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:14,400 I would be in relationship with the potential of someone. 710 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,039 And what I didn't realize my personal life, because somebody's 711 00:40:19,079 --> 00:40:21,360 in your personal life. The things you learn are different 712 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,880 than what you're teaching on stage. Took me a second, 713 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,039 and what I realized was not only am I in 714 00:40:27,159 --> 00:40:30,159 relationship with the potential that this person is not ready 715 00:40:30,159 --> 00:40:34,000 to step into being what potential I am actually seeing 716 00:40:34,039 --> 00:40:38,480 them is the reflection of my potential. 717 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor, 718 00:40:45,039 --> 00:40:46,320 and now back to the show. 719 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:55,599 Speaker 2: I'm actually confusing my light for their reality, and then 720 00:40:55,599 --> 00:40:57,599 I get into a relationship with them, and then all 721 00:40:57,599 --> 00:40:59,760 of a sudden, the person I thought I knew changes over. 722 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:04,639 And it's when life says, actually, we're just introducing you 723 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:09,360 to the person you confused with the light you see 724 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:14,679 in their presence. And so it's amazing is that when 725 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,519 we let I don't know, be a no and only 726 00:41:18,599 --> 00:41:24,920 yes as yes, it's easier to feel the oh yeah, 727 00:41:25,039 --> 00:41:27,679 or this is the person I meant to be with. 728 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:32,039 And I had got into a place where I was 729 00:41:32,599 --> 00:41:34,119 not sure I was actually ever going to be in 730 00:41:34,159 --> 00:41:37,599 a relationship. So even though joy and I have met 731 00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:41,599 and we're both each others one, she stepped into the 732 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:46,119 one who was going to be the best version of 733 00:41:46,159 --> 00:41:48,599 her in a relationship it was meant to be. I 734 00:41:48,679 --> 00:41:51,320 stepped into the one I was meant to be whether 735 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:52,800 the marriage was going to happen or I was going 736 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,400 to even meet her. The real one that both of 737 00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,559 us met were within ourselves. So I stepped into being 738 00:42:01,599 --> 00:42:06,760 the soulmate. Whether or not my beloved counterpart was meant 739 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,840 to show open this lifetime. She did the same thing 740 00:42:09,679 --> 00:42:12,800 that brought us together, but we were also very detached 741 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,719 and settled on whether I meet that person or not. 742 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:23,400 Stepping into my fullest potential was might just be exactly 743 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,960 the love that this lifetime has for me. And I 744 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,079 got into a full acceptance of that and very clear, 745 00:42:30,519 --> 00:42:36,440 and now our relationship is that we get to receive 746 00:42:36,559 --> 00:42:39,760 the love of the other person from these full versions 747 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,199 of ourselves. So I think that you know, when we're 748 00:42:43,199 --> 00:42:47,599 looking for our beloved, it's one thing to kind of 749 00:42:47,639 --> 00:42:51,519 be less than or insufficient and lonely and then expect 750 00:42:51,519 --> 00:42:54,119 another person's going to change how you feel. But if 751 00:42:54,199 --> 00:42:57,400 we take the real spiritual journey, the alchemy journey of 752 00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:02,880 becoming our highest self and form, that doesn't necessarily mean 753 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,960 the next day you're going to meet that person, right. 754 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,360 It means whether you're meant to meet the person or not, 755 00:43:08,079 --> 00:43:10,440 the oneness of love that you want to be in 756 00:43:10,599 --> 00:43:15,320 union with will be within you either way. 757 00:43:15,639 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 1: Couldn't have put it better myself, sir. Where can people 758 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,360 find out more about you? And the amazing work you're 759 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:20,920 doing in the world. 760 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,199 Speaker 2: Well, well, thank you. By the way, my website's matt 761 00:43:24,199 --> 00:43:26,559 con dot org m A T t k a h 762 00:43:26,679 --> 00:43:29,880 N dot org. If you sign up for the free 763 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,480 newsletter we send out, we also send you a link 764 00:43:33,519 --> 00:43:35,800 to our free documentary that was created. It's it's a 765 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:40,039 documentary that you literally experience healing while you watch it. 766 00:43:40,039 --> 00:43:41,440 And I think actually the u r L for that 767 00:43:41,559 --> 00:43:44,440 is matt con dot org slash love And it's a 768 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,880 free documentary that we created as a gift for the world. 769 00:43:47,519 --> 00:43:49,800 And you know, you can check out out the upcoming 770 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,119 events that I'm doing, my wife and I are doing 771 00:43:52,119 --> 00:43:57,000 together and and really, you know, this is just it's 772 00:43:57,119 --> 00:44:02,239 time for the world to reac and act as one. 773 00:44:02,559 --> 00:44:07,280 And whether we're spiritual beings not spiritual beings, however we 774 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:11,639 identify ourselves to be, we're all included. We all have 775 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,599 a vital role in this ascension and we literally need 776 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,360 the light and the power of every individual to help 777 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,480 this world evolve. 778 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:22,079 Speaker 1: And so. 779 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:28,039 Speaker 2: It's incredible when you know, the spiritual community used to 780 00:44:28,039 --> 00:44:32,559 be these like little fringe groups, but the most intentional 781 00:44:33,119 --> 00:44:38,639 spiritual community is Earth because we're all spirit and so 782 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,079 it's a beautiful thing to start, even just watching the 783 00:44:41,119 --> 00:44:45,920 beginning stages of this intentional community remember itself. 784 00:44:47,119 --> 00:44:49,559 Speaker 1: And if I can end on this or can we 785 00:44:49,639 --> 00:44:53,639 make hashtag sniff chef sniff chef. 786 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,119 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I'm one of those sniffer chefs. That's how 787 00:44:57,119 --> 00:44:59,519 I feel when I say channel, I'm one of those channels. 788 00:45:00,199 --> 00:45:05,280 I'm one of those channels. Sniff channels, sniff channel, hashtag 789 00:45:05,599 --> 00:45:07,280 sniff channel. It's a thing. 790 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:08,840 Speaker 1: Let's make it a thing, everybody. 791 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:09,320 Speaker 2: It's a thing. 792 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 1: Now, Brother, you're like a brother from another mother. I 793 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,599 appreciate you so much for coming man, I appreciate you 794 00:45:14,679 --> 00:45:17,840 how much love. I want to thank Matt so much 795 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,719 for coming on the show and sharing his knowledge and 796 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,440 wisdom with all of us. If you want to get 797 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,440 links to anything we spoke about in this episode, head 798 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,360 over to the show notes at next levelsoul dot com 799 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:31,000 forward slash four five zero. Now, if this conversation stirred 800 00:45:31,079 --> 00:45:34,119 something in you, there's more waiting. You can listen to 801 00:45:34,159 --> 00:45:38,079 this episode completely commercial free on Next level Soul TV's 802 00:45:38,119 --> 00:45:43,440 app where Soul meets streaming. Watch and listen on Appleios, Android, 803 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:48,360 Apple TV, Ruku, Android TV, Buyer TV LG and Samsung 804 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:54,239 apps anytime, anywhere. Begin your awakening at next Levelsoul dot 805 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,719 TV thank you so much for listening. As I always say, 806 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:02,000 trust the journey. It's there to teach you. I'll see 807 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:02,480 you next time.