Speaker 1: Time to catch up with a voice, the voice of
Speaker 1: the utes, and the Bill Riley mullet Watch continues as
Speaker 1: Utah is now three and oh Ryle's happy Tuesday.
Speaker 2: Man, how are we doing?
Speaker 3: I'm not doing as good as you are in O
Speaker 3: town with your bling and your boom.
Speaker 2: Hey, look, you know me.
Speaker 1: I'm about the bling, I'm about the boom. I'm about America,
Speaker 1: I'm about football.
Speaker 2: You know you know me? Bill, this is right down
Speaker 2: my alley.
Speaker 3: Well it is. And speaking of mullet Watch, it's only
Speaker 3: appropriate to bring mullet Watch up as we head to
Speaker 3: Oklahoma State this weekend, where the guy that rocks the
Speaker 3: mullet from back when, back in his playing day is
Speaker 3: still rocking it today. Mike Gundy is the head coach.
Speaker 1: So we do need to reset, Bill, because you join
Speaker 1: me preseason. And I said, Bill, in honor of Mike Gundhy,
Speaker 1: in honor of the Big twelve. Quite frankly, we're gonna
Speaker 1: see a lot mullets this year, Okay, more mullets than
Speaker 1: we're used to. Will you agree to grow a mullet
Speaker 1: if Utah goes twelve and oh and your response.
Speaker 3: Was absolutely yes, sir, grow a mullet out. I will party,
Speaker 3: you know, business upfront, party in the bag. If the
Speaker 3: utes go twelve and zero on the regular season, that
Speaker 3: that spends check its is my pledge to you and
Speaker 3: I will come out on a remote bling and boom
Speaker 3: or nod, and we will sport that mullet next fall.
Speaker 2: We have to plan.
Speaker 3: I'll rocket the entire off seat. Well, I won't say
Speaker 3: the entire off season. I'll rock it to a point,
Speaker 3: but you can. You can be the judge and jury
Speaker 3: of how long I keep the mullet.
Speaker 2: Bro you almost just buried yourself.
Speaker 1: I was not expecting you keeping the mullet all off season,
Speaker 1: but you almost put that on the table.
Speaker 2: That's why I just let you go. I want to
Speaker 2: see if you'd actually do that.
Speaker 1: The fact of the matter is the remote that you
Speaker 1: need to come on when you have your mullet is
Speaker 1: the blinging boom special.
Speaker 2: It feels right.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, we probably should move it up to
Speaker 3: Smith and Edwards. I think the mullet probably fits better
Speaker 3: at Smith than Edwards than it does at the jewelry store.
Speaker 2: Fair enough, fair enough, moving on.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to re establish the Bill Riley bulla
Speaker 1: watch on our little old radio show here, all right, Bill,
Speaker 1: I thought Isaac answered a lot of questions. Man, I
Speaker 1: thought he met the moment. I was skeptical. It didn't
Speaker 1: look great against but Baylor. It didn't look great to start.
Speaker 1: But I sounds weird to say as private the kid man.
Speaker 1: I thought he answered a lot of questions on Saturday.
Speaker 2: What are your takeaways?
Speaker 3: I thought he looked really good. It's amazing with you know,
Speaker 3: another week of practice, when you get most of the
Speaker 3: reps and you know, you get you know, you know,
Speaker 3: the game planned yours. I just thought he was really good.
Speaker 3: You know, it was a little I won't say shake y.
Speaker 3: I think he was just there were some nerves early
Speaker 3: when the ball was sailing on him, but once he
Speaker 3: got dialed in, you could really see him. And you know,
Speaker 3: there were two throws spins. He made two of them.
Speaker 3: They were almost the same throw that in between the
Speaker 3: safety and linebacker, in between the linebacker and corner, throw
Speaker 3: that he dropped in a couple of times on the
Speaker 3: sideline to Money Parks. Those are high level throws. And
Speaker 3: I thought he did a heck of a job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree with you.
Speaker 1: So, you know, with the sensitivity of injuries, shout out
Speaker 1: coach lud I know they don't talk much about them.
Speaker 1: I just I need to know where we're at with
Speaker 1: Cameron on a Tuesday. All the intel I have, all
Speaker 1: the intel most people seem to have, is that he
Speaker 1: is good to go. He's planning on playing quarterback against
Speaker 1: Okay Staton still Water.
Speaker 2: You're the voice. What's the update?
Speaker 3: They do the coaches show tonight, so I'll be heading
Speaker 3: over to the facility in a little while. I'll get
Speaker 3: a better update. But I think Dorian Singer said to
Speaker 3: the media yesterday, maybe the Josh Furlong from KSL, that
Speaker 3: he was expecting Cam to play this weekend. So I'm
Speaker 3: not sure if Dorian got the memo, the Andy Ludwig
Speaker 3: memo and the Kyle Whittingham memo about not talking about injuries.
Speaker 3: But I think he build Josh Furlong he's expecting Cam
Speaker 3: to play. So I'll have better feel for tonight. I
Speaker 3: have to talk to to Kyle. But I think that's
Speaker 3: kind of what everybody thought, unless there's some sort of
Speaker 3: a setback that I think everybody was kind of circling
Speaker 3: this date. Brett McMurphy had reported it last week, could
Speaker 3: Action the Action Network, and then you know, I think
Speaker 3: it was Dory and Singer who said something yesterday. So
Speaker 3: I think that's the expectation this weekend.
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, That's kind of how we're operating on
Speaker 1: the show as well. So recently, Bill, you became a
Speaker 1: fan of the Kansas City Chiefs, so I want to
Speaker 1: ask you a question about Obviously, kid, Bill's been a
Speaker 1: lifelong Chiefs fan. I felt about Utah the same way
Speaker 1: I felt this weekend about watching the Chiefs. I never
Speaker 1: thought they were going to lose. Were you ever nervous
Speaker 1: on Saturday? Did you feel like it was getting to
Speaker 1: the point where this upset could potentially go down?
Speaker 3: Uh? No, I didn't. I just thought Utah was better.
Speaker 3: I thought Utah State treated it like it was their
Speaker 3: super Bowl, and they played out of their minds and
Speaker 3: Bryce and Barnes made some really nice plays. I thought
Speaker 3: they schemed things up really well. But I never got
Speaker 3: the sense that they were going to be good enough
Speaker 3: for four quarters to beat Utah. Maybe I didn't think
Speaker 3: they'd put twenty one on the board, but I thought
Speaker 3: that they had a really good game plan and they
Speaker 3: ran it. Okay, and Barnes used his legs and made
Speaker 3: some nice throws, but there was never a point where
Speaker 3: I thought that Utah might lose that game. Conversely, there
Speaker 3: were several points where I thought maybe the Chiefs would lose.
Speaker 3: But at this point in time, I think I should
Speaker 3: just understand that both Mahomes and spec Nolo's defense are
Speaker 3: really good. So they you know, good teams find ways
Speaker 3: to win, and the Utes are good, the Chiefs are good, dud.
Speaker 1: At this point, you should watch Chiefs games with no anxiety.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, they just always seem to figure it out.
Speaker 1: They'll stub their tow here there, They'll be there in February.
Speaker 2: They're probably gonna win the damn thing again.
Speaker 1: But anyway, moving on, I don't mean this disrespectfully to
Speaker 1: Rasulo Faison, who is a very competent back. He goes
Speaker 1: for a buck fifteen. But Utah's about sie Ali Gordon,
Speaker 1: all right. He won the joke Walker, as we all know.
Speaker 1: And I would imagine if you're Morgan Scalley, I would
Speaker 1: imagine if you're Kyle wouldn't You're watching that game film
Speaker 1: and you're a little bit concerned about Utah State going
Speaker 1: for what three eighty five on oh I would imagine
Speaker 1: this week the defense has a pretty intense task to
Speaker 1: improve prior to Saturday.
Speaker 3: Well, it's funny because you can't really just logging. Alan
Speaker 3: Bowman's a good quarterback now. He's as old as Cam Rising.
Speaker 3: He's played more football than Rising. But he's good. And
Speaker 3: they've got good receivers. They're pretty balanced. But yeah, you're
Speaker 3: always gonna hear coaches. He'll probably say that on the
Speaker 3: Coaches Show tonight. Get to stop the run first. And
Speaker 3: Oli Gordon ran for seventeen hundred yards and twenty one
Speaker 3: touchdowns a year ago up to a little bit slower
Speaker 3: start this year. And I'm not sure why yet. I
Speaker 3: haven't kind of dug into Oklahoma State stuff yet, but
Speaker 3: he's really good. And I think part of its spence
Speaker 3: is Krenie Reid didn't play Saturday, and he missed the
Speaker 3: second half of the game against Baylor the week before.
Speaker 3: And as good as Lander Barton is, Karennie Reid's kind
Speaker 3: of the kind of the heart and soul and the
Speaker 3: eyes and ears of that defense getting everybody in the
Speaker 3: right place. And I think there was probably a little
Speaker 3: bit of an adjustment period without KRETTI read last week,
Speaker 3: so whether it's so Ony fo two or it's John
Speaker 3: neu Hall this week that steps in ato that linebacker spot. Whoever,
Speaker 3: it is more responsibility on Lander Barton because he's kind
Speaker 3: of the veteran in there. But those guys have to
Speaker 3: be in the gaps and tackle better than they were
Speaker 3: a week ago. Because you're right, Faison's a solid running
Speaker 3: back oli Gordon's and NFL. He'll be playing on Sundays
Speaker 3: running back and if you don't doesn't stop the run.
Speaker 3: Oklahoma State will run it all day long.
Speaker 1: So just to follow up, is the anticipation that Utah
Speaker 1: goes is still water without Karena.
Speaker 3: I think so. I saw him last week and he
Speaker 3: had a walking boot on, so my anticipation is, yes,
Speaker 3: that's probably the case. I don't know. Again, I haven't
Speaker 3: been over the facility yet this week, but when I
Speaker 3: saw him last week, he was in a walking boot
Speaker 3: and said it might be a little while, so we'll
Speaker 3: see what happens.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So now I kind of feel about
Speaker 1: the running back position as I do about the quarterback position.
Speaker 2: It's pretty clear.
Speaker 1: Mackay is the guy. But the more and more I
Speaker 1: watched Mike, I think there's a lot to like. So
Speaker 1: does it feel like it settled into mackay and Mike
Speaker 1: and then maybe with a side I'm not going to
Speaker 1: do the mustard joke I almost did, but with a
Speaker 1: side of Dijon Stanley outside of those two, does that
Speaker 1: feel like that's where we've landed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. I mean McKay's established himself as
Speaker 3: running back one, and really Mike Mitchell has been good.
Speaker 3: He's just got to I think Kyle's noted it a
Speaker 3: couple of times. He's got a little bit of a
Speaker 3: nagging ankle thing that will flare up during games. But
Speaker 3: I thought he ran really well last week. I really did.
Speaker 3: I thought he ran the ball really really well. He
Speaker 3: had seventy five yards, made a tough inside running. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I think those two have established themselves as RB one
Speaker 3: and RB two. Then you've got Djon Stanley, a little
Speaker 3: Charlie Vincent. Not sure what's going on with Jalen Glover.
Speaker 3: Didn't see him last week, but he's got some experience too.
Speaker 3: But I definitely think it's Bernard and Mitchell as one
Speaker 3: and two.
Speaker 1: Let me follow up about Jalen, who we saw go
Speaker 1: for a bucko seven against Colorado last year. We saw
Speaker 1: him with a really good game and a tough win
Speaker 1: against UCLA a year ago. And you even go back
Speaker 1: a couple of years, you know, twenty carries seventy six
Speaker 1: years on the polue in a big win thirteen sixty two.
Speaker 2: A touchdown at Colorado.
Speaker 1: We've seen Jalen Glover play the running back position at
Speaker 1: Utah very efficiently at times. Is this just like, hey,
Speaker 1: the room's crowded or is there anything else beyond that
Speaker 1: that you're hearing that.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think it's a crowded room as
Speaker 3: much as anything else. I think Jalen is one of
Speaker 3: those really solid running backs, but a couple of the
Speaker 3: other guys might just have a little bit more juice.
Speaker 3: But I don't I haven't heard her known anything that
Speaker 3: would say anything otherwise. I just think right now that
Speaker 3: Mitchell is a young guy who really if he would
Speaker 3: have played last fall, he kind of red shirted last fall,
Speaker 3: might have popped just a little bit. He was kind
Speaker 3: of learning the whole position. But they just love his
Speaker 3: overall skill set. And you know, Mackai bernartchman in the
Speaker 3: program for a little while.
Speaker 1: You know, BI most smart people who follow sports know
Speaker 1: that basketball players just do it better.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: That's not me, that's other people that follow sports. So
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just kind of a decent take here.
Speaker 1: I gotta say, man, first of all, respect to Caleb
Speaker 1: for even trying this.
Speaker 2: You know, basketball player at Utah.
Speaker 1: BYU and Baylor, and I can remember watching him all
Speaker 1: the way back in high school and just thinking like
Speaker 1: that kid is an absolute beast of an athlete who
Speaker 1: needs to learn how to play basketball at a high level,
Speaker 1: just with a more complete skill set as he decides
Speaker 1: to level up. If he ever wants to be a
Speaker 1: pro basketball player, he's got to just get He's never
Speaker 1: had a great feel for the game overall.
Speaker 2: He was never a great shooter and never a great pastor.
Speaker 1: But what he was is an insane athlete that would
Speaker 1: dunk on your head and go get fifteen boards, you know,
Speaker 1: while napping through a game.
Speaker 2: So the skill set translates.
Speaker 1: I give him a ton of credit for trying this
Speaker 1: beautiful ball from Isaac another red zone target for Caleb.
Speaker 1: It feels like coach wait, Coach loved, They've got themselves
Speaker 1: a pretty special red zone weapon.
Speaker 3: Doesn't it. It does? And he just the athleticism, pops.
Speaker 3: I love the fact that they called that plate dunk.
Speaker 3: We talked to him after the game and Isaac said,
Speaker 3: they called that plate dunk, So it's throw it up
Speaker 3: to the big guy and let him go get it.
Speaker 3: The funny thing is two spence when you see him
Speaker 3: running around and you don't see it as much in
Speaker 3: the game, but you're a little bit more in the
Speaker 3: game now. But when I saw him running around to
Speaker 3: practice this fall, he just looked. I mean, he doesn't
Speaker 3: look out of place. That's the weird thing. Is he
Speaker 3: a fluid yet? As Brand keeth, he will know, but Brand's,
Speaker 3: you know, an All American caliber tight end. Caleb Loner
Speaker 3: hasn't played football since seventh grade. Seventh grade was the
Speaker 3: last time he played football that he turned into a
Speaker 3: basketball player. So for this guy to be able to
Speaker 3: come out having not played football since seventh grade and
Speaker 3: make a tangible impact on the field with really one
Speaker 3: fault he didn't play in the spring one fault camp
Speaker 3: under his belt's pretty amazing. And any other great part
Speaker 3: about it is is that tight end rum is loaded.
Speaker 3: Carson Ryan kind a touchdown pass and you saw his
Speaker 3: hands saturday. We know what Keathy can do. Heck Landon King,
Speaker 3: who I thought was going to be poised to have
Speaker 3: a breakout maybe still could, doesn't even have a catch
Speaker 3: yet this year we saw how good he was. Last
Speaker 3: year when Keithy didn't play, They've got kind of an
Speaker 3: embarrassment of riches in that tight end room.
Speaker 1: So through three games, Bill, I always talk about this
Speaker 1: up until conference starts, and then even maybe the first
Speaker 1: couple of games of conference play when I just say
Speaker 1: observation not conclusion, you know, like that's why I wasn't
Speaker 1: concerned about Isaac. You know, after the SUU and then
Speaker 1: the Baylor game, I said on air it had to
Speaker 1: be better, and it did, but it was I mean,
Speaker 1: what you look for, as you know as well as anyone,
Speaker 1: is just week by week improvements.
Speaker 2: Are you seeing through three games? Have you seen week
Speaker 2: by week improvement?
Speaker 1: And attendant to that, what do you feel like you're
Speaker 1: confident today to say that you know about Utah through
Speaker 1: three games, and what do you feel like needs to
Speaker 1: get better?
Speaker 3: I think, well, consistent quarterback play, meaning pick one guy.
Speaker 3: But I think we get that back that. I think
Speaker 3: we get it back this week with Cam Rising. Although
Speaker 3: I will say and back to your point we started
Speaker 3: off talking about Isaac Isaac Wilson. I think if you're
Speaker 3: a Utah fan, you've got to be thrilled with what
Speaker 3: the potential for the future is. And it's always kind
Speaker 3: of been year to year when quarterbacks left, it's like,
Speaker 3: what do we have coming with this next one? I
Speaker 3: think we know with Isaac Wilson, I've been most impressed,
Speaker 3: I think Spence with the improvement of the secondary. I
Speaker 3: think it was probably a little bit unsure of that
Speaker 3: with the two safeties they lost in the corners. You know,
Speaker 3: they lose Kennan Johnson in the first game, but to
Speaker 3: see Zamaya Vaughn and to see Scooby Davis and to
Speaker 3: see Ko Johnson, and to see you Nate Ritchie, and
Speaker 3: to see that kid Cameron Calhoun come in and get
Speaker 3: his first real bit of playing time and have an
Speaker 3: interception in the past breakup. I think I've probably seen
Speaker 3: the most improvement in that secondary. What I want to
Speaker 3: see being a little bit better probably playing the run game,
Speaker 3: just because Baylor had some moments and then Utah State
Speaker 3: had some moments, and we both know that Baylor and
Speaker 3: Utah State aren't quite the caliber of Oklahoma State. So
Speaker 3: if anything, if I want a nitpick, I'd probably say,
Speaker 3: let's see how they play against the run this.
Speaker 2: Week, all right, before I say you loose. Utah is
Speaker 2: now a two point favorite. That could change.
Speaker 1: That line has moved like four times, opened up slightly
Speaker 1: in the direction of the Cowboys, swung the way of
Speaker 1: the Utes.
Speaker 2: It's now settled.
Speaker 1: Utah minus two, never been to Boone Picking Stadium, never
Speaker 1: been a still water maybe one day if dreams come true.
Speaker 1: But what ultimately do you feel like Utah needs to
Speaker 1: do to go on the road and get what would
Speaker 1: be a massive early statement whin to the rest of
Speaker 1: the Big twelve.
Speaker 3: Well, I think they need a good start spence. They
Speaker 3: can't fall behind like they did to Utah State, because
Speaker 3: that place is going to be loud. It's a little
Speaker 3: bit just slightly bigger than rice Ecles, but it's right
Speaker 3: in that same range. But it's loud and it's it'll
Speaker 3: be full. And those are the Oklahoma State fans, a
Speaker 3: great fan. So I think Utah offensively, you know, needs
Speaker 3: to get some some some momentum going early. And I
Speaker 3: think you again, just a heartback on what we've talked about.
Speaker 3: You know, make make them throw on you a little bit,
Speaker 3: make make them drop back. Alan Bowman has played seven
Speaker 3: years of college football. He's played at Texas Tech, He's
Speaker 3: played at Michigan, now he's played it at Oklahoma State.
Speaker 3: He's a good quarterback. But let guys like Fillinger and
Speaker 3: O'Toole and Fano and you know, Tofoon and those guys
Speaker 3: up front create a little bit of pressure. And if
Speaker 3: they can do that, I think you taught has a
Speaker 3: real good chance to go in there and hang with
Speaker 3: Oklahoma State and get a win.