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<v Speaker 1>Time to catch up with a voice, the voice of

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<v Speaker 1>the utes, and the Bill Riley mullet Watch continues as

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<v Speaker 1>Utah is now three and oh Ryle's happy Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, how are we doing?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not doing as good as you are in O

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<v Speaker 3>town with your bling and your boom.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, look, you know me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm about the bling, I'm about the boom. I'm about America,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm about football.

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<v Speaker 2>You know you know me? Bill, this is right down

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<v Speaker 2>my alley.

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<v Speaker 3>Well it is. And speaking of mullet Watch, it's only

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<v Speaker 3>appropriate to bring mullet Watch up as we head to

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<v Speaker 3>Oklahoma State this weekend, where the guy that rocks the

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<v Speaker 3>mullet from back when, back in his playing day is

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<v Speaker 3>still rocking it today. Mike Gundy is the head coach.

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<v Speaker 1>So we do need to reset, Bill, because you join

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<v Speaker 1>me preseason. And I said, Bill, in honor of Mike Gundhy,

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<v Speaker 1>in honor of the Big twelve. Quite frankly, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>see a lot mullets this year, Okay, more mullets than

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<v Speaker 1>we're used to. Will you agree to grow a mullet

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<v Speaker 1>if Utah goes twelve and oh and your response.

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<v Speaker 3>Was absolutely yes, sir, grow a mullet out. I will party,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, business upfront, party in the bag. If the

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<v Speaker 3>utes go twelve and zero on the regular season, that

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<v Speaker 3>that spends check its is my pledge to you and

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<v Speaker 3>I will come out on a remote bling and boom

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<v Speaker 3>or nod, and we will sport that mullet next fall.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to plan.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll rocket the entire off seat. Well, I won't say

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<v Speaker 3>the entire off season. I'll rock it to a point,

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<v Speaker 3>but you can. You can be the judge and jury

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<v Speaker 3>of how long I keep the mullet.

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<v Speaker 2>Bro you almost just buried yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>I was not expecting you keeping the mullet all off season,

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<v Speaker 1>but you almost put that on the table.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I just let you go. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>see if you'd actually do that.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact of the matter is the remote that you

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<v Speaker 1>need to come on when you have your mullet is

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<v Speaker 1>the blinging boom special.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, we probably should move it up to

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<v Speaker 3>Smith and Edwards. I think the mullet probably fits better

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<v Speaker 3>at Smith than Edwards than it does at the jewelry store.

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<v Speaker 2>Fair enough, fair enough, moving on.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to re establish the Bill Riley bulla

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<v Speaker 1>watch on our little old radio show here, all right, Bill,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought Isaac answered a lot of questions. Man, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought he met the moment. I was skeptical. It didn't

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<v Speaker 1>look great against but Baylor. It didn't look great to start.

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<v Speaker 1>But I sounds weird to say as private the kid man.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he answered a lot of questions on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>What are your takeaways?

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<v Speaker 3>I thought he looked really good. It's amazing with you know,

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<v Speaker 3>another week of practice, when you get most of the

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<v Speaker 3>reps and you know, you get you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the game planned yours. I just thought he was really good.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it was a little I won't say shake y.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he was just there were some nerves early

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<v Speaker 3>when the ball was sailing on him, but once he

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<v Speaker 3>got dialed in, you could really see him. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there were two throws spins. He made two of them.

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<v Speaker 3>They were almost the same throw that in between the

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<v Speaker 3>safety and linebacker, in between the linebacker and corner, throw

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<v Speaker 3>that he dropped in a couple of times on the

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<v Speaker 3>sideline to Money Parks. Those are high level throws. And

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<v Speaker 3>I thought he did a heck of a job.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>So, you know, with the sensitivity of injuries, shout out

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<v Speaker 1>coach lud I know they don't talk much about them.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I need to know where we're at with

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<v Speaker 1>Cameron on a Tuesday. All the intel I have, all

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<v Speaker 1>the intel most people seem to have, is that he

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<v Speaker 1>is good to go. He's planning on playing quarterback against

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<v Speaker 1>Okay Staton still Water.

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<v Speaker 2>You're the voice. What's the update?

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<v Speaker 3>They do the coaches show tonight, so I'll be heading

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<v Speaker 3>over to the facility in a little while. I'll get

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<v Speaker 3>a better update. But I think Dorian Singer said to

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<v Speaker 3>the media yesterday, maybe the Josh Furlong from KSL, that

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<v Speaker 3>he was expecting Cam to play this weekend. So I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not sure if Dorian got the memo, the Andy Ludwig

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<v Speaker 3>memo and the Kyle Whittingham memo about not talking about injuries.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think he build Josh Furlong he's expecting Cam

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<v Speaker 3>to play. So I'll have better feel for tonight. I

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<v Speaker 3>have to talk to to Kyle. But I think that's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of what everybody thought, unless there's some sort of

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<v Speaker 3>a setback that I think everybody was kind of circling

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<v Speaker 3>this date. Brett McMurphy had reported it last week, could

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<v Speaker 3>Action the Action Network, and then you know, I think

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<v Speaker 3>it was Dory and Singer who said something yesterday. So

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's the expectation this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, fair enough, That's kind of how we're operating on

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<v Speaker 1>the show as well. So recently, Bill, you became a

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<v Speaker 1>fan of the Kansas City Chiefs, so I want to

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<v Speaker 1>ask you a question about Obviously, kid, Bill's been a

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<v Speaker 1>lifelong Chiefs fan. I felt about Utah the same way

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<v Speaker 1>I felt this weekend about watching the Chiefs. I never

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<v Speaker 1>thought they were going to lose. Were you ever nervous

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<v Speaker 1>on Saturday? Did you feel like it was getting to

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<v Speaker 1>the point where this upset could potentially go down?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh? No, I didn't. I just thought Utah was better.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought Utah State treated it like it was their

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<v Speaker 3>super Bowl, and they played out of their minds and

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<v Speaker 3>Bryce and Barnes made some really nice plays. I thought

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<v Speaker 3>they schemed things up really well. But I never got

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<v Speaker 3>the sense that they were going to be good enough

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<v Speaker 3>for four quarters to beat Utah. Maybe I didn't think

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<v Speaker 3>they'd put twenty one on the board, but I thought

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<v Speaker 3>that they had a really good game plan and they

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<v Speaker 3>ran it. Okay, and Barnes used his legs and made

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<v Speaker 3>some nice throws, but there was never a point where

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<v Speaker 3>I thought that Utah might lose that game. Conversely, there

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<v Speaker 3>were several points where I thought maybe the Chiefs would lose.

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<v Speaker 3>But at this point in time, I think I should

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<v Speaker 3>just understand that both Mahomes and spec Nolo's defense are

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<v Speaker 3>really good. So they you know, good teams find ways

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<v Speaker 3>to win, and the Utes are good, the Chiefs are good, dud.

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<v Speaker 1>At this point, you should watch Chiefs games with no anxiety.

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<v Speaker 1>In my opinion, they just always seem to figure it out.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll stub their tow here there, They'll be there in February.

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<v Speaker 2>They're probably gonna win the damn thing again.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, moving on, I don't mean this disrespectfully to

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<v Speaker 1>Rasulo Faison, who is a very competent back. He goes

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<v Speaker 1>for a buck fifteen. But Utah's about sie Ali Gordon,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. He won the joke Walker, as we all know.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would imagine if you're Morgan Scalley, I would

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<v Speaker 1>imagine if you're Kyle wouldn't You're watching that game film

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<v Speaker 1>and you're a little bit concerned about Utah State going

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<v Speaker 1>for what three eighty five on oh I would imagine

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<v Speaker 1>this week the defense has a pretty intense task to

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<v Speaker 1>improve prior to Saturday.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's funny because you can't really just logging. Alan

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<v Speaker 3>Bowman's a good quarterback now. He's as old as Cam Rising.

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<v Speaker 3>He's played more football than Rising. But he's good. And

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<v Speaker 3>they've got good receivers. They're pretty balanced. But yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 3>always gonna hear coaches. He'll probably say that on the

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<v Speaker 3>Coaches Show tonight. Get to stop the run first. And

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<v Speaker 3>Oli Gordon ran for seventeen hundred yards and twenty one

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<v Speaker 3>touchdowns a year ago up to a little bit slower

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<v Speaker 3>start this year. And I'm not sure why yet. I

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<v Speaker 3>haven't kind of dug into Oklahoma State stuff yet, but

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<v Speaker 3>he's really good. And I think part of its spence

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<v Speaker 3>is Krenie Reid didn't play Saturday, and he missed the

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<v Speaker 3>second half of the game against Baylor the week before.

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<v Speaker 3>And as good as Lander Barton is, Karennie Reid's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of the kind of the heart and soul and the

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<v Speaker 3>eyes and ears of that defense getting everybody in the

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<v Speaker 3>right place. And I think there was probably a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit of an adjustment period without KRETTI read last week,

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<v Speaker 3>so whether it's so Ony fo two or it's John

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<v Speaker 3>neu Hall this week that steps in ato that linebacker spot. Whoever,

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<v Speaker 3>it is more responsibility on Lander Barton because he's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of the veteran in there. But those guys have to

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<v Speaker 3>be in the gaps and tackle better than they were

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<v Speaker 3>a week ago. Because you're right, Faison's a solid running

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<v Speaker 3>back oli Gordon's and NFL. He'll be playing on Sundays

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<v Speaker 3>running back and if you don't doesn't stop the run.

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<v Speaker 3>Oklahoma State will run it all day long.

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<v Speaker 1>So just to follow up, is the anticipation that Utah

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<v Speaker 1>goes is still water without Karena.

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<v Speaker 3>I think so. I saw him last week and he

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<v Speaker 3>had a walking boot on, so my anticipation is, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>that's probably the case. I don't know. Again, I haven't

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<v Speaker 3>been over the facility yet this week, but when I

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<v Speaker 3>saw him last week, he was in a walking boot

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<v Speaker 3>and said it might be a little while, so we'll

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<v Speaker 3>see what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, So now I kind of feel about

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<v Speaker 1>the running back position as I do about the quarterback position.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty clear.

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<v Speaker 1>Mackay is the guy. But the more and more I

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<v Speaker 1>watched Mike, I think there's a lot to like. So

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<v Speaker 1>does it feel like it settled into mackay and Mike

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<v Speaker 1>and then maybe with a side I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>do the mustard joke I almost did, but with a

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<v Speaker 1>side of Dijon Stanley outside of those two, does that

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<v Speaker 1>feel like that's where we've landed.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think so. I mean McKay's established himself as

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<v Speaker 3>running back one, and really Mike Mitchell has been good.

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<v Speaker 3>He's just got to I think Kyle's noted it a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of times. He's got a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 3>nagging ankle thing that will flare up during games. But

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<v Speaker 3>I thought he ran really well last week. I really did.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought he ran the ball really really well. He

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<v Speaker 3>had seventy five yards, made a tough inside running. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I think those two have established themselves as RB one

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<v Speaker 3>and RB two. Then you've got Djon Stanley, a little

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<v Speaker 3>Charlie Vincent. Not sure what's going on with Jalen Glover.

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't see him last week, but he's got some experience too.

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<v Speaker 3>But I definitely think it's Bernard and Mitchell as one

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<v Speaker 3>and two.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me follow up about Jalen, who we saw go

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<v Speaker 1>for a bucko seven against Colorado last year. We saw

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<v Speaker 1>him with a really good game and a tough win

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<v Speaker 1>against UCLA a year ago. And you even go back

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years, you know, twenty carries seventy six

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<v Speaker 1>years on the polue in a big win thirteen sixty two.

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<v Speaker 2>A touchdown at Colorado.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen Jalen Glover play the running back position at

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<v Speaker 1>Utah very efficiently at times. Is this just like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>the room's crowded or is there anything else beyond that

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<v Speaker 1>that you're hearing that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I think it's a crowded room as

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<v Speaker 3>much as anything else. I think Jalen is one of

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<v Speaker 3>those really solid running backs, but a couple of the

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<v Speaker 3>other guys might just have a little bit more juice.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't I haven't heard her known anything that

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<v Speaker 3>would say anything otherwise. I just think right now that

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<v Speaker 3>Mitchell is a young guy who really if he would

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<v Speaker 3>have played last fall, he kind of red shirted last fall,

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<v Speaker 3>might have popped just a little bit. He was kind

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<v Speaker 3>of learning the whole position. But they just love his

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<v Speaker 3>overall skill set. And you know, Mackai bernartchman in the

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<v Speaker 1>You know, BI most smart people who follow sports know

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<v Speaker 1>that basketball players just do it better.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not me, that's other people that follow sports. So

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just kind of a decent take here.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta say, man, first of all, respect to Caleb

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<v Speaker 1>for even trying this.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, basketball player at Utah.

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<v Speaker 1>BYU and Baylor, and I can remember watching him all

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<v Speaker 1>the way back in high school and just thinking like

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<v Speaker 1>just with a more complete skill set as he decides

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<v Speaker 1>to level up. If he ever wants to be a

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<v Speaker 1>pro basketball player, he's got to just get He's never

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<v Speaker 1>had a great feel for the game overall.

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<v Speaker 2>He was never a great shooter and never a great pastor.

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<v Speaker 1>But what he was is an insane athlete that would

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<v Speaker 1>dunk on your head and go get fifteen boards, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>while napping through a game.

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<v Speaker 2>So the skill set translates.

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<v Speaker 1>I give him a ton of credit for trying this

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful ball from Isaac another red zone target for Caleb.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like coach wait, Coach loved, They've got themselves

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty special red zone weapon.

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<v Speaker 3>Doesn't it. It does? And he just the athleticism, pops.

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<v Speaker 3>I love the fact that they called that plate dunk.

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<v Speaker 3>We talked to him after the game and Isaac said,

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<v Speaker 3>they called that plate dunk, So it's throw it up

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<v Speaker 3>to the big guy and let him go get it.

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<v Speaker 3>The funny thing is two spence when you see him

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<v Speaker 3>running around and you don't see it as much in

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<v Speaker 3>the game, but you're a little bit more in the

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<v Speaker 3>game now. But when I saw him running around to

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<v Speaker 3>practice this fall, he just looked. I mean, he doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>look out of place. That's the weird thing. Is he

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<v Speaker 3>a fluid yet? As Brand keeth, he will know, but Brand's,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, an All American caliber tight end. Caleb Loner

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<v Speaker 3>hasn't played football since seventh grade. Seventh grade was the

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<v Speaker 3>last time he played football that he turned into a

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<v Speaker 3>basketball player. So for this guy to be able to

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<v Speaker 3>come out having not played football since seventh grade and

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<v Speaker 3>make a tangible impact on the field with really one

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<v Speaker 3>fault he didn't play in the spring one fault camp

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<v Speaker 3>under his belt's pretty amazing. And any other great part

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<v Speaker 3>about it is is that tight end rum is loaded.

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<v Speaker 3>Carson Ryan kind a touchdown pass and you saw his

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<v Speaker 3>hands saturday. We know what Keathy can do. Heck Landon King,

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<v Speaker 3>who I thought was going to be poised to have

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<v Speaker 3>a breakout maybe still could, doesn't even have a catch

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<v Speaker 3>yet this year we saw how good he was. Last

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<v Speaker 3>year when Keithy didn't play, They've got kind of an

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<v Speaker 3>embarrassment of riches in that tight end room.

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<v Speaker 1>So through three games, Bill, I always talk about this

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<v Speaker 1>up until conference starts, and then even maybe the first

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<v Speaker 1>couple of games of conference play when I just say

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<v Speaker 1>observation not conclusion, you know, like that's why I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>concerned about Isaac. You know, after the SUU and then

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<v Speaker 1>the Baylor game, I said on air it had to

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<v Speaker 1>be better, and it did, but it was I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what you look for, as you know as well as anyone,

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<v Speaker 1>is just week by week improvements.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you seeing through three games? Have you seen week

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<v Speaker 2>by week improvement?

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<v Speaker 1>And attendant to that, what do you feel like you're

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<v Speaker 1>confident today to say that you know about Utah through

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<v Speaker 1>three games, and what do you feel like needs to

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<v Speaker 1>get better?

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<v Speaker 3>I think, well, consistent quarterback play, meaning pick one guy.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think we get that back that. I think

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<v Speaker 3>we get it back this week with Cam Rising. Although

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<v Speaker 3>I will say and back to your point we started

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<v Speaker 3>off talking about Isaac Isaac Wilson. I think if you're

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<v Speaker 3>a Utah fan, you've got to be thrilled with what

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<v Speaker 3>the potential for the future is. And it's always kind

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<v Speaker 3>of been year to year when quarterbacks left, it's like,

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<v Speaker 3>what do we have coming with this next one? I

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<v Speaker 3>think we know with Isaac Wilson, I've been most impressed,

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<v Speaker 3>I think Spence with the improvement of the secondary. I

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<v Speaker 3>think it was probably a little bit unsure of that

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<v Speaker 3>with the two safeties they lost in the corners. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>they lose Kennan Johnson in the first game, but to

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<v Speaker 3>see Zamaya Vaughn and to see Scooby Davis and to

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<v Speaker 3>see Ko Johnson, and to see you Nate Ritchie, and

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<v Speaker 3>to see that kid Cameron Calhoun come in and get

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<v Speaker 3>his first real bit of playing time and have an

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<v Speaker 3>interception in the past breakup. I think I've probably seen

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<v Speaker 3>the most improvement in that secondary. What I want to

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<v Speaker 3>see being a little bit better probably playing the run game,

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<v Speaker 3>just because Baylor had some moments and then Utah State

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<v Speaker 3>had some moments, and we both know that Baylor and

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<v Speaker 3>Utah State aren't quite the caliber of Oklahoma State. So

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<v Speaker 3>if anything, if I want a nitpick, I'd probably say,

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<v Speaker 3>let's see how they play against the run this.

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<v Speaker 2>Week, all right, before I say you loose. Utah is

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<v Speaker 2>now a two point favorite. That could change.

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<v Speaker 1>That line has moved like four times, opened up slightly

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<v Speaker 1>in the direction of the Cowboys, swung the way of

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<v Speaker 1>the Utes.

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<v Speaker 2>It's now settled.

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<v Speaker 1>Utah minus two, never been to Boone Picking Stadium, never

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<v Speaker 1>been a still water maybe one day if dreams come true.

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<v Speaker 1>But what ultimately do you feel like Utah needs to

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<v Speaker 1>do to go on the road and get what would

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think they need a good start spence. They

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<v Speaker 3>can't fall behind like they did to Utah State, because

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<v Speaker 3>that place is going to be loud. It's a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit just slightly bigger than rice Ecles, but it's right

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<v Speaker 3>in that same range. But it's loud and it's it'll

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<v Speaker 3>be full. And those are the Oklahoma State fans, a

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<v Speaker 3>great fan. So I think Utah offensively, you know, needs

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<v Speaker 3>think you again, just a heartback on what we've talked about.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, make make them throw on you a little bit,

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<v Speaker 3>make make them drop back. Alan Bowman has played seven

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<v Speaker 3>years of college football. He's played at Texas Tech, He's

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<v Speaker 3>played at Michigan, now he's played it at Oklahoma State.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a good quarterback. But let guys like Fillinger and

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<v Speaker 3>O'Toole and Fano and you know, Tofoon and those guys

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<v Speaker 3>up front create a little bit of pressure. And if

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<v Speaker 3>they can do that, I think you taught has a

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<v Speaker 3>real good chance to go in there and hang with

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<v Speaker 3>Oklahoma State and get a win.