WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:04.320 Welcome to Spacing Out with BB and Jason this week 2 00:00:04.360 --> 00:00:08.640 covering Foundation season three, episode one, a song for the 3 00:00:08.720 --> 00:00:09.480 end of Everything. 4 00:00:14.400 --> 00:00:17.600 Welcome to Spacey Now, I'm BB, and the ice cream 5 00:00:17.679 --> 00:00:21.760 Man is here with them too. Right when we start recording. 6 00:00:22.679 --> 00:00:23.960 Let's pause, get ice cream? 7 00:00:24.280 --> 00:00:25.199 You want to start again? 8 00:00:25.440 --> 00:00:25.719 Sure? 9 00:00:26.199 --> 00:00:28.519 Okay, Welcome to Spacey Now. 10 00:00:28.600 --> 00:00:32.039 I'm BB and I'm Jason, and we are discussing the 11 00:00:32.079 --> 00:00:36.479 Apple TV sci fi series Foundation, one episode at a time, 12 00:00:36.799 --> 00:00:40.399 and the plan is to cover season three as it releases. 13 00:00:40.679 --> 00:00:44.479 So I think the episode has come out on Thursday evenings, 14 00:00:44.799 --> 00:00:48.359 and our episodes will hopefully be in your feeds Tuesday mornings. 15 00:00:48.560 --> 00:00:48.799 Nice. 16 00:00:48.960 --> 00:00:51.000 You know, this first episode is a little bit late, 17 00:00:51.039 --> 00:00:52.039 but we'll get it together. 18 00:00:52.280 --> 00:00:54.520 We're going to be on schedule later. 19 00:00:55.119 --> 00:00:58.200 And you may be listening to this on our Foundation podcast, 20 00:00:58.280 --> 00:01:00.799 but I do invite you to check out our main channel, 21 00:01:00.840 --> 00:01:03.679 spacing Alphoebe and Jason. We've covered a lot of different 22 00:01:03.679 --> 00:01:07.840 stuff over there. But in this episode, a mysterious new 23 00:01:07.879 --> 00:01:11.239 pirate with terrifying abilities known as the Mule, catches the 24 00:01:11.280 --> 00:01:13.920 attention of the Foundation and Empire. 25 00:01:16.319 --> 00:01:19.640 Vibe check. Did we like the episode overall? 26 00:01:20.079 --> 00:01:23.079 All right? It's a new season send some things up. 27 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:25.519 How do we feel about it? Oh? 28 00:01:25.640 --> 00:01:29.319 Anxious? 29 00:01:29.799 --> 00:01:33.079 I'm just like, oh no, there's a bad guy now, 30 00:01:33.439 --> 00:01:39.120 a real bad guy. Before it was just like Empire 31 00:01:39.480 --> 00:01:41.920 arrogant bastard with big ego. 32 00:01:42.200 --> 00:01:44.480 We can deal with that, I can. We got one 33 00:01:44.480 --> 00:01:51.920 of those at home. But this guy, Oh no, he's awful. 34 00:01:52.719 --> 00:01:53.319 He's scary. 35 00:01:54.480 --> 00:01:59.959 Oh I'm really I'm really excited to kind of see 36 00:02:00.239 --> 00:02:04.560 my teeth into like a good versus evil and kind 37 00:02:04.599 --> 00:02:09.680 of having like different factions of like Foundation and Empire 38 00:02:10.280 --> 00:02:15.280 working together potentially to kind of combat this new evil. 39 00:02:15.520 --> 00:02:17.439 Yeah, because it does kind of feel like that this 40 00:02:17.599 --> 00:02:20.919 is bigger than anything else that's soon to be happening, 41 00:02:21.120 --> 00:02:23.319 and so I mean we'll dig into that in the moment. 42 00:02:23.400 --> 00:02:25.479 But yeah, I mean I feel like there's a lot 43 00:02:25.520 --> 00:02:27.919 of scene setting. You know, we've jumped forward in time, 44 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:31.400 so there's new characters kind of laying out what the 45 00:02:31.919 --> 00:02:34.840 new dynamics are of all the politics and stuff. So 46 00:02:35.000 --> 00:02:37.120 that was kind of to be expected, and I feel 47 00:02:37.120 --> 00:02:39.280 like the episode did it fairly well. 48 00:02:39.520 --> 00:02:42.360 Yeah. I wasn't like, oh my god, who's this? Oh 49 00:02:42.400 --> 00:02:44.080 my god, why do I care? Oh my god? 50 00:02:44.960 --> 00:02:48.360 Yeah, And I think they're I mean credit to season two, 51 00:02:48.599 --> 00:02:51.520 because when season two started, it was like we were 52 00:02:51.520 --> 00:02:53.560 being introduced to so many people and we just didn't 53 00:02:53.599 --> 00:02:55.879 really know what was going on. And a few episodes 54 00:02:55.919 --> 00:02:58.439 in it started to really gel. But I feel like 55 00:02:58.680 --> 00:03:01.319 they really threaded in and you know, stuff with the 56 00:03:01.439 --> 00:03:04.439 Mule and stuff last season, so like we kind of 57 00:03:04.680 --> 00:03:08.159 have some of our footing already going into this. So yeah, 58 00:03:08.240 --> 00:03:11.080 I think as a decent opener. 59 00:03:13.439 --> 00:03:17.080 Trivia time, what facts for news could we uncover? For 60 00:03:17.120 --> 00:03:18.680 a song for the end of everything? 61 00:03:19.240 --> 00:03:23.039 So this was foundation season three, episode one, a song 62 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:25.360 for the end of Everything. I mean there's a character 63 00:03:25.400 --> 00:03:29.080 named Song. This originally aired on I guess it doesn't 64 00:03:29.159 --> 00:03:33.000 air it streams. For three streamed on July eleventh, twenty 65 00:03:33.039 --> 00:03:36.080 twenty five. Written by David S. Goyer and Jane Esmondson 66 00:03:36.319 --> 00:03:39.879 and directed by David Skoyer was also the showrunner. So 67 00:03:39.919 --> 00:03:44.120 for season three, Alexander Sadig and Troy Kotzer were cast 68 00:03:44.159 --> 00:03:48.159 in the roles of Doctor Ebling me, a self taught psychohistorian, 69 00:03:48.360 --> 00:03:52.159 and Preem Palver, a leader of a planet of psychics, respectively. 70 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:56.199 Those are both book characters that are getting brought to 71 00:03:56.240 --> 00:04:00.759 the screen and Alexander Sadig previously appeared and See One 72 00:04:00.919 --> 00:04:03.000 as a guest role as a different character, which I 73 00:04:03.000 --> 00:04:04.879 was kind of surprised that they actually reference that in 74 00:04:04.919 --> 00:04:07.520 the show. He's a descendant of that character, I guess. 75 00:04:07.719 --> 00:04:11.000 Season three began filming in late May twenty twenty three 76 00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:15.120 in Prague. Filming was in halted and July fourteenth due 77 00:04:15.159 --> 00:04:18.240 to the twenty twenty three Hollywood labor disputes. Production on 78 00:04:18.279 --> 00:04:20.480 the third season was expected to resume in Prague in 79 00:04:20.480 --> 00:04:23.360 February twenty twenty four, but then once again disbanded due 80 00:04:23.360 --> 00:04:26.279 to budgetary issues, and then resuming again in March of 81 00:04:26.360 --> 00:04:29.600 twenty twenty four in Prague and Poland. So kind of 82 00:04:29.600 --> 00:04:32.879 a rough go at getting the season done. Also, creator 83 00:04:32.879 --> 00:04:35.120 and show runner David es Goyer appears to have left 84 00:04:35.160 --> 00:04:37.720 the show now, in part due to the budget disputes. 85 00:04:37.879 --> 00:04:40.279 Season four has not been officially confirmed, but the writer's 86 00:04:40.319 --> 00:04:42.720 room is said to have been assembled with a new showrunner, 87 00:04:42.920 --> 00:04:46.759 Ian Goldberg, who is responsible for some really terrible TV. 88 00:04:46.879 --> 00:04:48.000 I'm not excited about that. 89 00:04:48.240 --> 00:04:54.120 Oh no, he's responsible. That's give us one. 90 00:04:54.439 --> 00:04:57.959 So the show Fear the Walking Dead switched showrunners to 91 00:04:58.399 --> 00:05:01.160 Ian Goldberg and this other guy, and the show just 92 00:05:01.199 --> 00:05:06.959 went like really downhill, really bad writing. Oh no, so. 93 00:05:06.240 --> 00:05:09.439 So he has a reputation of running shows into the ground. 94 00:05:09.839 --> 00:05:14.439 Yeah, oh no, so we'll see I guess. But he 95 00:05:14.519 --> 00:05:16.680 wasn't there for season three, so we got this to 96 00:05:16.680 --> 00:05:19.680 look forward to. And then the three rows of three 97 00:05:19.759 --> 00:05:22.759 Laws of Robotics I mentioned in this episode, and that 98 00:05:22.800 --> 00:05:26.639 comes from the Isaac Asimam's robot stories which get intertwined 99 00:05:26.680 --> 00:05:29.959 with the Foundation series. So they go through it pretty 100 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:31.480 well in the episode. So I won't go through them, 101 00:05:31.519 --> 00:05:33.519 but that is trivia. 102 00:05:33.279 --> 00:05:41.000 Grivia deep space dive. Let's break down some of our 103 00:05:41.000 --> 00:05:44.279 thoughts on the episode. You can share your thoughts with 104 00:05:44.360 --> 00:05:47.800 us through email or social media. We may use your 105 00:05:47.800 --> 00:05:49.800 comments on an upcoming episode. 106 00:05:50.120 --> 00:05:51.839 So Don is in charge. 107 00:05:52.319 --> 00:05:56.360 We have a competent Don thinking the lead, not like 108 00:05:56.399 --> 00:05:58.920 those old Don's falling in love and stuff. 109 00:05:58.680 --> 00:06:02.839 Giving away state secret. It's running away. Whatever happened to 110 00:06:02.879 --> 00:06:05.560 that Dawn anyway? I really wanted to follow up on that. 111 00:06:06.160 --> 00:06:09.319 Yeah, I'm really curious about that, Like I really that 112 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:11.399 could be the end of the story, but it could 113 00:06:11.399 --> 00:06:13.519 be that, you know, they have the sentants out there. 114 00:06:13.759 --> 00:06:17.399 Right, A dynasty, A real dynasty. Yeah, that's what I 115 00:06:17.439 --> 00:06:20.720 thought we were going. So I was a little disappointed 116 00:06:20.759 --> 00:06:23.160 that they didn't give us a little a little something 117 00:06:23.240 --> 00:06:27.519 something with the Dawn and that got away. 118 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:30.879 Yeah, but they could be holding onto that nugget. 119 00:06:31.319 --> 00:06:33.360 That's true. 120 00:06:33.480 --> 00:06:37.160 And it seems like the Merzil's like really into the. 121 00:06:37.279 --> 00:06:41.839 Down Yeah, she really likes him. She likes the go getter. Yeah. 122 00:06:41.560 --> 00:06:45.639 And he's into the foundation stuff too. He's into that 123 00:06:45.959 --> 00:06:48.920 weird thing she keeps in her chest. I don't know what. 124 00:06:48.879 --> 00:06:51.600 It's called, the Prime Radiant. 125 00:06:51.759 --> 00:06:52.639 No, what's a taser? 126 00:06:52.720 --> 00:06:52.879 Rak? 127 00:06:54.560 --> 00:07:00.680 Okay, okay, the prime Radiant. He's really into the I'm Radiant, 128 00:07:00.800 --> 00:07:02.680 Like he keeps track of it with her and shit 129 00:07:02.839 --> 00:07:03.120 like that. 130 00:07:03.439 --> 00:07:06.759 Yeah. So she was given that by Harry Selvyn in 131 00:07:06.800 --> 00:07:09.120 the last season, and you know, I'm the show was 132 00:07:09.160 --> 00:07:11.439 asking the question that I'm asking. He's like, why did 133 00:07:11.439 --> 00:07:11.839 you do that? 134 00:07:12.720 --> 00:07:16.000 Yeah, And she's asking it herself. She's like, why would 135 00:07:16.079 --> 00:07:19.120 he give me the answer to my prime to my 136 00:07:19.759 --> 00:07:24.120 like primary function that whatever I do, no matter how 137 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:27.720 hard I try to save empire, it is going to end, 138 00:07:27.759 --> 00:07:30.079 it is going to end. And what does that mean 139 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:33.079 for me and my purpose and my programming. I love 140 00:07:33.160 --> 00:07:37.519 that she you know, she's a religious robot and she 141 00:07:37.680 --> 00:07:41.439 sought religious counsel. So I thought that was an interesting, 142 00:07:42.160 --> 00:07:46.079 like kind of interaction. I thought I liked that they 143 00:07:46.120 --> 00:07:50.360 did that, like two women talking about like the future 144 00:07:50.800 --> 00:07:55.120 and their belief system. And I don't think personally, I 145 00:07:55.160 --> 00:07:59.560 don't think that the cleric or whatever she was did 146 00:07:59.759 --> 00:08:04.240 much to help her. She just kind of answered questions 147 00:08:04.480 --> 00:08:08.040 or with questions. It's almost I don't know, it just 148 00:08:08.079 --> 00:08:14.959 didn't feel give more about like kind of hashing it out, 149 00:08:15.040 --> 00:08:18.759 like giving us a window into her psyche, which I like. 150 00:08:18.959 --> 00:08:21.759 I do like that because she's such a complicated character. 151 00:08:22.240 --> 00:08:26.279 Yeah, and especially like now that we know her backstory, Yeah, 152 00:08:26.319 --> 00:08:28.279 I got all that out last season, And like she's 153 00:08:28.279 --> 00:08:31.639 a really interesting character and she is really like the 154 00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:33.159 main power in the Empire. 155 00:08:33.600 --> 00:08:36.960 Yeah, she's the power. She's the one pulling the strings 156 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:40.600 to the puppets that are Empire. And I don't know, 157 00:08:40.720 --> 00:08:44.399 I think that's a really interesting conundrum that she's kind 158 00:08:44.440 --> 00:08:47.759 of in, Like what happens with my when the one 159 00:08:47.799 --> 00:08:51.480 thing that I'm supposed to do is inevitably going to fail? 160 00:08:51.600 --> 00:08:54.720 What does that leave you with when you know that 161 00:08:54.840 --> 00:08:59.240 failure is going to happen, like there is. It's unavoidable. 162 00:08:59.440 --> 00:09:04.720 Like humans, you know, we we we thrive off of failure. 163 00:09:04.759 --> 00:09:08.720 In most cases if we fail, we pivot. We were 164 00:09:08.799 --> 00:09:12.679 able to change course. But she's programmed in a certain way. 165 00:09:12.919 --> 00:09:17.919 And it's interesting that her programming that she said that, 166 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:20.639 like when she talked about like the fourth or the 167 00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:24.639 the Axonon, I don't remember what she called the last 168 00:09:24.759 --> 00:09:30.039 law that they added where they're like, uh, the needs 169 00:09:30.039 --> 00:09:31.600 of the many outweigh the few. 170 00:09:31.919 --> 00:09:35.320 Oh yeah, basically they can interpret like not harming humans 171 00:09:35.360 --> 00:09:38.799 as not individual humans, but all of human humanity. 172 00:09:38.960 --> 00:09:47.399 Yeah, So to me, that breaking the first law robotics 173 00:09:48.279 --> 00:09:52.279 there should that law shouldn't exist, like they can't. That's 174 00:09:52.320 --> 00:09:54.000 not a good law for the robots. 175 00:09:54.279 --> 00:09:57.440 Yeah, because it becomes the ends justify the means. 176 00:09:57.919 --> 00:10:02.480 Yeah, and that's evil. But that's literally evil. That's literally 177 00:10:02.960 --> 00:10:08.840 the Holocaust. That's literally like genocide. That's literally like, oh, well, 178 00:10:08.960 --> 00:10:12.960 you know these people over here, they're bad because they 179 00:10:13.080 --> 00:10:16.159 use plastic straws, so we got to kill them. 180 00:10:16.519 --> 00:10:19.320 Yeah, And it draws into question like well she's hinted 181 00:10:19.320 --> 00:10:21.799 at before. They're like she talked about the laws in 182 00:10:21.840 --> 00:10:24.080 the past tense, like they didn't apply to her anymore. 183 00:10:24.600 --> 00:10:27.000 So it's like, what is she capable of? Is can 184 00:10:27.120 --> 00:10:27.960 she harm a person? 185 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:28.639 Right? 186 00:10:28.799 --> 00:10:31.120 And if as she pleases that she needs to justify 187 00:10:31.159 --> 00:10:31.759 it in a way. 188 00:10:32.200 --> 00:10:36.759 Well, we've seen her harm empire, We've seen her execute 189 00:10:37.480 --> 00:10:41.080 many of them. So it's like she's the one who 190 00:10:41.159 --> 00:10:44.320 put the hit out on Day that one time where 191 00:10:44.360 --> 00:10:46.919 he was like fucking her, and she she's the one 192 00:10:46.960 --> 00:10:48.879 who orchestrated that whole interaction. 193 00:10:50.039 --> 00:10:53.559 So well, I guess because her new programming from cleon 194 00:10:53.600 --> 00:10:56.600 the first is to carry out carry forward his vision 195 00:10:56.720 --> 00:10:57.159 or whatever. 196 00:10:57.279 --> 00:11:00.759 Yeah, yeah, so, and so when his VI is over, 197 00:11:01.120 --> 00:11:04.440 I think she's going to default to that end, justify 198 00:11:04.519 --> 00:11:09.159 the means, like sweeping motions where the little guy might 199 00:11:09.519 --> 00:11:15.240 die because the need of the many is greater than 200 00:11:15.279 --> 00:11:17.679 the need of the few. And that's kind of concerning. 201 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:20.120 I don't know. I kind of want her to die 202 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:23.279 so she can rest in peace. She's like if I 203 00:11:23.320 --> 00:11:25.840 ever die, Like she's so hopeful for it, you. 204 00:11:25.840 --> 00:11:29.960 Know, I want her to be free and see what 205 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:30.440 she does. 206 00:11:30.799 --> 00:11:33.879 You want to see what happens, how it pans out. Well, 207 00:11:33.919 --> 00:11:37.519 they got four months. That's a crazy timeline. 208 00:11:37.559 --> 00:11:37.759 Bro. 209 00:11:38.200 --> 00:11:41.320 Yeah, this episode kind of gave us a ticking clock 210 00:11:41.440 --> 00:11:44.159 at the end. Yeah, and you know, it kind of 211 00:11:44.200 --> 00:11:47.559 goes into what you were speculating about that like they're 212 00:11:48.320 --> 00:11:50.320 may be the reason she has the prime radio and 213 00:11:50.360 --> 00:11:53.240 can foresee all this stuff coming. Is that everyone's doing 214 00:11:53.320 --> 00:11:54.679 need to act against the Mule. 215 00:11:54.960 --> 00:11:57.679 Yeah, yeah, it's all hands on deck with that freak. 216 00:11:58.120 --> 00:12:01.159 What a freak. Holy shit, that was scary. 217 00:12:01.480 --> 00:12:05.000 Oh my god. I like that we start this episode 218 00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:09.039 we go straight to the fucking mule, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, 219 00:12:09.120 --> 00:12:10.600 that really just one guy. 220 00:12:10.639 --> 00:12:13.720 He came out roll chill and he's like, oh and 221 00:12:13.720 --> 00:12:17.480 he had these awful goggles. Awful goggles like some fucking 222 00:12:17.559 --> 00:12:19.480 steampunk fantasy bullshit. 223 00:12:19.759 --> 00:12:24.000 Yeah, and he has been recast from last season. I 224 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:27.159 didn't known he kept the goggles to help transit. Yeah, 225 00:12:27.200 --> 00:12:29.399 I couldn't tell the same white guy, didn't. I thought 226 00:12:29.399 --> 00:12:31.240 it was interesting that, like they made a point to 227 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:35.639 explain why doctor Bashir looks like the other guy, but 228 00:12:36.240 --> 00:12:37.320 this guy just looks different. 229 00:12:38.399 --> 00:12:40.559 Well, you only saw him once in that one dream 230 00:12:40.799 --> 00:12:44.399 and it didn't even come true because that was a dream. Mule. 231 00:12:44.559 --> 00:12:49.000 Yeah yeah, but uh, holy shit, that guy was. It 232 00:12:49.080 --> 00:12:51.759 shook me a little bit, Like I was like, holy shit, 233 00:12:52.279 --> 00:12:56.559 because like, you know, you can fight fire with fire, 234 00:12:56.840 --> 00:12:59.879 you can you can fight you know, you can try 235 00:12:59.919 --> 00:13:03.600 to strategize against somebody if they you don't have to 236 00:13:03.600 --> 00:13:07.480 be smarter than them to defeat them in battle in 237 00:13:07.519 --> 00:13:12.679 some cases. But this guy can get in your soldier's 238 00:13:12.840 --> 00:13:16.639 heads and makes them kill themselves or kill each other. 239 00:13:17.000 --> 00:13:22.519 The part where he's like, I'm gonna need that ring 240 00:13:22.840 --> 00:13:25.200 and he couldn't get it off and he makes him 241 00:13:25.360 --> 00:13:31.080 bite his finger off, I was like, that's fucked up, dude, Yep, 242 00:13:31.399 --> 00:13:34.840 that's fucked up. That's super fucked up. And then he 243 00:13:34.879 --> 00:13:38.840 shoots himself in the head. That was brutal, Like brutal. 244 00:13:39.320 --> 00:13:42.559 I feel like, you know, those people that like bad guys, 245 00:13:42.759 --> 00:13:44.879 they're gonna have such a heart on for the mule. 246 00:13:48.120 --> 00:13:50.320 Those people that like bad guys. 247 00:13:50.159 --> 00:13:53.039 Yeah, you know what I'm talking about. Those fucking creeps. 248 00:13:53.159 --> 00:13:54.679 They got a boner right now. 249 00:13:56.120 --> 00:13:59.200 Not seeing just how powerful he is is like why 250 00:13:59.240 --> 00:14:01.399 does he even need four months to recavic? 251 00:14:01.519 --> 00:14:06.320 Like why is he taking over one planet? Why why 252 00:14:06.440 --> 00:14:08.960 stop at one planet? And and and he said it, 253 00:14:09.039 --> 00:14:11.600 he said, look, I'm a man who needs a whole 254 00:14:11.639 --> 00:14:15.039 galaxy and that is terrifying. And he started with the 255 00:14:15.080 --> 00:14:20.000 pleasure planet, which nobody cares about. Apparently everybody's like, oh, well, 256 00:14:20.159 --> 00:14:24.120 big deal. Do you know the kind of hell that 257 00:14:24.200 --> 00:14:29.480 would be raised in the Star Trek Enterprise if Risa fell, 258 00:14:36.000 --> 00:14:40.679 If John Luke Picard and fucking Riker can't go and 259 00:14:40.720 --> 00:14:45.039 wear short shorts on their leave, they're fucking that Wars 260 00:14:45.200 --> 00:14:48.200 over in ten minutes bro one episode. 261 00:14:48.399 --> 00:14:54.559 Yeah, Riker would retirement. Do you want to see a 262 00:14:55.200 --> 00:15:02.039 next generation reunion? Maybe not war. 263 00:15:02.120 --> 00:15:04.480 Because he didn't play with us shit. 264 00:15:05.000 --> 00:15:09.879 Anyway, But I guess they they talk a lot about like, oh. 265 00:15:09.639 --> 00:15:11.480 It's just one pirate, no big deal. 266 00:15:11.960 --> 00:15:15.200 Well yeah, they're not quite seeing the threat because they 267 00:15:15.200 --> 00:15:17.279 haven't seen it for themselves. But they're also talk a 268 00:15:17.320 --> 00:15:20.039 lot about the current state of politics and how it's 269 00:15:20.039 --> 00:15:22.480 all in balance, and like no one wants to move 270 00:15:22.519 --> 00:15:23.399 on that planet. 271 00:15:23.519 --> 00:15:27.759 It's like the neutral zone. Then they don't touch it. 272 00:15:28.039 --> 00:15:30.919 Yeah. I don't think they have like a treaty or anything, 273 00:15:30.960 --> 00:15:33.639 but it seems like they know if they cross that 274 00:15:33.759 --> 00:15:36.399 line then there's going to be battles that they're not 275 00:15:36.440 --> 00:15:37.159 ready for something. 276 00:15:37.240 --> 00:15:40.519 Yeah yeah, yeah, who was that ambassador? I didn't get that. 277 00:15:41.080 --> 00:15:44.679 I guess the Empire and the Foundation are talking on 278 00:15:44.720 --> 00:15:45.559 some level. 279 00:15:45.480 --> 00:15:48.399 But not to the point where they're telling their homegirl 280 00:15:48.759 --> 00:15:53.200 that that planet fell twenty days ago. Like she's like, 281 00:15:53.240 --> 00:15:56.240 wait what And they're like, oh, yeah, girl, we've been new, 282 00:15:56.399 --> 00:16:00.080 we don't we don't already know that, are intel? We 283 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:02.120 already knew we were going to have dinner with you 284 00:16:02.279 --> 00:16:05.720 and not even talk about it. Rude, rude. She didn't 285 00:16:05.720 --> 00:16:08.960 even stay for dinner. She's like, fuck, these guys and 286 00:16:09.000 --> 00:16:11.960 the main guy didn't even have the courtesy of coming 287 00:16:12.000 --> 00:16:14.120 to join me for dinner. How fucking rude. 288 00:16:14.320 --> 00:16:16.759 Yeah, let's talk about the old Brother Day. 289 00:16:17.559 --> 00:16:20.600 Oh god, he's you know what, it reminds me of 290 00:16:21.279 --> 00:16:25.240 like a mixture of like the dude from The Big 291 00:16:25.360 --> 00:16:30.000 Lebowski and that's it. That's it, just the dude from 292 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:33.360 The Big Lebowski. He's just that's that's him. 293 00:16:33.919 --> 00:16:37.840 Yeah. I like that they gave us like a total 294 00:16:37.879 --> 00:16:41.360 opposite Brother Day than what we were dealing with last season. 295 00:16:41.759 --> 00:16:42.000 You know. 296 00:16:42.240 --> 00:16:44.519 He also kind of has like a Jesus look to 297 00:16:44.639 --> 00:16:46.000 him with the beard and the hair. 298 00:16:46.360 --> 00:16:50.159 Yeah, and he's got that you know, care free dude energy. 299 00:16:50.519 --> 00:16:54.159 Yeah, the Devil May Care attitude where he's. 300 00:16:54.000 --> 00:17:00.120 Out there cloning camels, Yeah, camels and Serret's boats. 301 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:02.159 For was that a sheep? That was a sheep or 302 00:17:02.159 --> 00:17:04.759 a lamb? Lamb? I don't know what the difference is. 303 00:17:05.119 --> 00:17:07.319 I know there's a goat, I know goats are different, 304 00:17:07.480 --> 00:17:10.720 But are sheeps and lambs the same thing? Are lamb's 305 00:17:10.759 --> 00:17:11.440 baby sheep? 306 00:17:11.759 --> 00:17:12.079 Yes? 307 00:17:12.319 --> 00:17:16.599 Okay, okay, sorry, I was just working that out. I'm 308 00:17:16.599 --> 00:17:19.559 not very familiar with farm animals. Well, why is he 309 00:17:19.599 --> 00:17:22.240 cloning them? Why does he have these animals around? Who's 310 00:17:22.240 --> 00:17:23.680 cleaning up after them? Well? 311 00:17:23.720 --> 00:17:24.039 He did. 312 00:17:24.240 --> 00:17:27.279 He did say welcome to my stink, right, Yeah, so 313 00:17:27.319 --> 00:17:29.039 it probably smelled like camel shit. 314 00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:31.680 And sounds like he's been hanging out there for like 315 00:17:31.720 --> 00:17:33.160 six months with that. 316 00:17:34.319 --> 00:17:37.720 And then he called Drumazol a thing. Yeah, rude, that's 317 00:17:37.759 --> 00:17:41.400 his mom, girlfriend, wife, stepmom. What does she She's like, 318 00:17:41.640 --> 00:17:44.279 they're everything, and he's like, who invirite of that thing? 319 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:47.000 She has always been and always will be or whatever? 320 00:17:47.000 --> 00:17:49.799 They say. Yeah, well, if he's you know, he's not 321 00:17:50.200 --> 00:17:52.240 sleeping with her, then he's dehumanizing her. 322 00:17:52.359 --> 00:17:53.160 Typical man. 323 00:17:53.480 --> 00:17:57.839 But yeah, he seems to have completely just stepped away 324 00:17:57.839 --> 00:17:59.599 from the role of empire and is living in his 325 00:17:59.640 --> 00:18:00.680 own little world there. 326 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:03.240 I would like to see the backstory to that. 327 00:18:03.480 --> 00:18:05.960 Yeah, because they do talk about like like he gave 328 00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:09.680 Brother Dawn various advice and Brother Donna first, so like 329 00:18:10.079 --> 00:18:11.920 you know how much wisdom he has, So it seems 330 00:18:11.920 --> 00:18:16.000 like he was fulfilling that role effectively until recently. And 331 00:18:16.039 --> 00:18:19.920 then I guess this uh pending ascension as they call it. 332 00:18:20.240 --> 00:18:22.799 Right, and then the home the old homeboy has been 333 00:18:22.839 --> 00:18:25.559 watching clips of all the other old homeboys that have 334 00:18:25.640 --> 00:18:26.200 been dying. 335 00:18:27.319 --> 00:18:29.519 Yeah, he's like, how do I want to do it? 336 00:18:29.559 --> 00:18:31.039 Do I want to run? Do you want to do 337 00:18:31.079 --> 00:18:34.119 a little dance? That's should I pretend to say something? 338 00:18:34.160 --> 00:18:37.200 You're like, oh yeah, one more thing and then dissolve. 339 00:18:38.039 --> 00:18:41.960 Is that what you would do? Keep them anticipations, leave 340 00:18:42.039 --> 00:18:43.359 them wanting more out. 341 00:18:43.720 --> 00:18:46.400 I'll be like, and don't forget the secret to life, 342 00:18:46.480 --> 00:18:50.079 and then I just sleeporize, or maybe I do like 343 00:18:50.119 --> 00:18:54.079 a Thanos, snap my fingers before I disintegrate. 344 00:18:54.519 --> 00:18:56.559 I wouldn't want to do it. I'd be crying the 345 00:18:56.599 --> 00:18:59.880 whole time. I'd like, I don't want to. I'm still healthy. 346 00:19:00.799 --> 00:19:03.240 Let me live out my days and maybe when I 347 00:19:03.240 --> 00:19:08.640 get Dementshall just walk into the beam. That would suck 348 00:19:08.799 --> 00:19:13.319 to be like euthanized. Basically, that's crazy. I wouldn't sign 349 00:19:13.359 --> 00:19:13.880 up for that. 350 00:19:14.960 --> 00:19:18.559 So with the Foundation, you know, it seems like they 351 00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:20.880 made a big point at the end of last season 352 00:19:20.920 --> 00:19:24.119 that you know, certain people survived because they were inside 353 00:19:24.119 --> 00:19:27.359 of the vault. But I guess that didn't really matter 354 00:19:27.400 --> 00:19:30.599 because the vault went back to Terminus and they resettled, 355 00:19:30.640 --> 00:19:34.359 and those people are dead now anyway because time is passed. 356 00:19:34.599 --> 00:19:39.200 Yeah, but they they lived, man, Yeah, and they I 357 00:19:39.279 --> 00:19:42.480 don't get how the Foundation, I don't I don't get 358 00:19:42.839 --> 00:19:45.799 are we like, is the Foundation a model of human 359 00:19:46.119 --> 00:19:49.200 humanity where we go through our religious phase and then 360 00:19:49.240 --> 00:19:52.000 we have our phase where we're really into trade and 361 00:19:52.079 --> 00:19:54.279 what's after that? I want to know what's after the 362 00:19:54.960 --> 00:19:58.279 trade because I think we're still stuck in that. I'm 363 00:19:58.319 --> 00:20:03.359 just curious what's after are capitalist phase? It seems like 364 00:20:03.440 --> 00:20:04.240 it's destruction. 365 00:20:05.240 --> 00:20:07.359 Yeah, four months left. 366 00:20:07.519 --> 00:20:13.839 Yeah, we're gonna We're gonna disappear into the ether. That's crazy. 367 00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:17.240 I don't know. I'm just like, I guess it is, like, 368 00:20:17.440 --> 00:20:22.640 you know, science fiction is always looking around, It's always 369 00:20:22.680 --> 00:20:25.920 looking at society and the earth and the world. And 370 00:20:26.880 --> 00:20:30.440 it's always talking about what we're going through. So this 371 00:20:30.680 --> 00:20:37.599 was originally written in the forties, yes, during probably after 372 00:20:37.680 --> 00:20:41.200 World War Two, because nobody was having fun and working 373 00:20:41.240 --> 00:20:47.079 on their book during during the war. So uh. And 374 00:20:47.160 --> 00:20:52.279 I think in art specifically, like I studied painting and 375 00:20:52.759 --> 00:20:57.279 art history and all that, the post war art was 376 00:20:57.480 --> 00:21:02.319 very like nihilist. After World War two, art took a 377 00:21:02.480 --> 00:21:08.440 very dark turn. Artists were painting things like Picasso did 378 00:21:08.519 --> 00:21:13.920 that one very large, very dark painting called Guarnica where 379 00:21:14.000 --> 00:21:17.920 it's just like people like devastated from the war and 380 00:21:18.480 --> 00:21:22.839 what happened to Spain during that era, and it's very 381 00:21:22.880 --> 00:21:28.400 interesting paintings and art that comes out from I think 382 00:21:28.440 --> 00:21:31.880 it's technically the Silent generation, right, Yes. 383 00:21:31.839 --> 00:21:35.880 I think so. Yeah, Silent came after Greatest Yeah, and 384 00:21:35.920 --> 00:21:36.559 then Bloomers. 385 00:21:36.839 --> 00:21:42.839 Yeah. So I'm I'm interested to see like the parallels 386 00:21:43.200 --> 00:21:47.880 of this modern interpretation of this novel that was written 387 00:21:48.319 --> 00:21:52.680 post World War two, post the most devastating war that 388 00:21:52.759 --> 00:21:57.559 the world has ever seen, with like tragic, tragic events 389 00:21:57.720 --> 00:21:59.880 where you would think that that was the end of 390 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:04.680 humanity as we speak to to try to save it somehow, 391 00:22:04.720 --> 00:22:09.279 to try to prevent some of those things from happening. 392 00:22:09.559 --> 00:22:12.039 Imagine what would have happened if Hitler would have just 393 00:22:12.079 --> 00:22:16.440 stayed in art school, right, And now we're in our 394 00:22:16.480 --> 00:22:21.200 own era of potential World War three? And and what 395 00:22:21.200 --> 00:22:24.200 what is the catalyst here? What? What? What is the 396 00:22:24.240 --> 00:22:27.039 event that we should have prevented four months ago to 397 00:22:27.359 --> 00:22:31.960 put us somewhere anyway? Uh, I don't know, it's very interesting. 398 00:22:32.039 --> 00:22:35.519 I think this, Uh, the concept of this show is 399 00:22:35.920 --> 00:22:40.279 very of its time. But it's also like I like 400 00:22:40.440 --> 00:22:46.079 that the source material is something that we can recognize 401 00:22:46.119 --> 00:22:48.279