WEBVTT 1 00:00:09.080 --> 00:00:23.600 This is a studio both and production. Scott Paul Schweikert 2 00:00:23.640 --> 00:00:27.239 was born in Peru, Illinois, on August tenth of nineteen 3 00:00:27.399 --> 00:00:31.800 sixty five. The Schweikerts were a prominent and well connected 4 00:00:31.839 --> 00:00:36.000 family in the area, with thirteen children. According to the 5 00:00:36.039 --> 00:00:39.640 Tampa Bay Times, Scott was a quiet and polite boy 6 00:00:39.679 --> 00:00:43.200 who attended the local Catholic church and graduated high school 7 00:00:43.240 --> 00:00:47.119 with a three point sixty four GPA. He went on 8 00:00:47.200 --> 00:00:51.880 to earn two bachelor's degrees from Illinois State University. His 9 00:00:52.000 --> 00:00:58.039 family and community had high hopes for him. Of course, 10 00:00:58.359 --> 00:01:00.960 by now we all know what happened, and during Scott's 11 00:01:01.039 --> 00:01:04.959 time at ISU an assault and attempted rape on a 12 00:01:04.959 --> 00:01:09.400 fellow student, for which Scott merely served six months in jail. 13 00:01:10.760 --> 00:01:13.879 Halfway through that jail time, his parents wrote to the 14 00:01:14.000 --> 00:01:18.239 judge requesting that Scott be let out early so he 15 00:01:18.280 --> 00:01:23.480 could attend their fiftieth anniversary party. Make of that what 16 00:01:23.640 --> 00:01:28.920 you will. Five and a half years later, after bouncing 17 00:01:28.959 --> 00:01:33.560 around from courthouse to courthouse and state to state, Scott 18 00:01:33.640 --> 00:01:39.840 met Steven Lorenzo and in short order found himself in Orlando, Florida. 19 00:01:43.519 --> 00:01:51.840 In October of twenty three, where are you living, how 20 00:01:51.879 --> 00:01:56.280 long had you lived and what was the purpose for 21 00:01:56.359 --> 00:01:57.319 your moving to. 22 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:02.439 Okay? And were you in the. 23 00:02:02.319 --> 00:02:05.480 Process of taking that course in personal training in October of. 24 00:02:05.400 --> 00:02:06.799 Two thousand and three? 25 00:02:09.000 --> 00:02:16.319 Are you familiar with an online application called America Online 26 00:02:17.680 --> 00:02:22.120 and were you familiar with America Online in October of 27 00:02:22.159 --> 00:02:25.759 two thousand and three prior to two thousand and three? 28 00:02:25.919 --> 00:02:32.080 Had you utilize America Online to conduct instant missing chats 29 00:02:32.120 --> 00:02:33.039 with individuals? 30 00:02:35.759 --> 00:02:37.639 Did you have a screen name? 31 00:02:38.960 --> 00:02:45.199 What was your streaming. 32 00:02:44.599 --> 00:02:50.199 Prior to October of two thousand and three? Did you 33 00:02:50.240 --> 00:02:56.960 know the defendant Cingul Lorento. Do you recall how you 34 00:02:57.039 --> 00:03:02.039 were acquainted with or how you were introduced to Stephen Lawrenson. 35 00:03:01.840 --> 00:03:05.800 Actual tell us about the place I was talking with 36 00:03:06.439 --> 00:03:11.280 another dominant from pennsil By Leah everybody that's the name, 37 00:03:11.840 --> 00:03:16.520 the standards that part shrew stuff. 38 00:03:16.400 --> 00:03:20.199 That and he had to pay. 39 00:03:20.120 --> 00:03:25.960 Contact with Lorenz prior to my making contact with them 40 00:03:26.080 --> 00:03:31.240 expand and he noticed that I would be randel Uh, 41 00:03:31.360 --> 00:03:34.680 Mister Lorandi was in Tampa and you got we got 42 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:37.639 sad interest and we be one to make. 43 00:03:37.599 --> 00:03:39.039 Conoment all right? 44 00:03:39.120 --> 00:03:41.199 Do you use the terminal? I want to get clarified 45 00:03:41.240 --> 00:03:45.919 here you used used the term another dominant. Explain to 46 00:03:46.039 --> 00:03:47.520 us what you mean by it. 47 00:03:50.120 --> 00:03:54.960 The comments you got goverment, he has the business subvisions, 48 00:03:55.080 --> 00:04:00.879 submissions are looking to submit it to somebody, to have 49 00:04:01.639 --> 00:04:02.960 somebody dominating. 50 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:07.719 As the dominant. We learned the dominating pieces. 51 00:04:09.319 --> 00:04:12.400 So you and the gay community. 52 00:04:11.960 --> 00:04:18.360 Were consider yourself as a dominant. Yes, and Limited Expander 53 00:04:18.519 --> 00:04:23.000 was aware that you were a domind Yes. Uh, obviously 54 00:04:23.319 --> 00:04:28.759 Limited Expander decided that it was an it was maybe 55 00:04:29.439 --> 00:04:34.439 good for you to meet Stephen Lorenzo. Did you did 56 00:04:34.480 --> 00:04:38.600 you come to learn based upon your communications with Stephen 57 00:04:38.639 --> 00:04:42.480 Lorenzo or Limited Expander is why it was that the 58 00:04:42.519 --> 00:04:46.759 Limited Expander decided that it was it was important for 59 00:04:46.839 --> 00:04:49.120 you to meet Stephen Lorenzo. 60 00:04:49.600 --> 00:04:52.879 Well, he said that we had similar interests. You've been 61 00:04:52.920 --> 00:04:55.920 talking with n I guess for a while and unforture 62 00:04:56.000 --> 00:05:00.040 at all, and we act a couple of times and 63 00:05:00.199 --> 00:05:04.240 we discussed what all we got into, and you thought 64 00:05:04.319 --> 00:05:06.480 that we were into alized. 65 00:05:07.199 --> 00:05:11.000 Okay, so then tell us about what you were into 66 00:05:11.720 --> 00:05:15.319 and specifically what you were into that Women Extander thought 67 00:05:15.639 --> 00:05:19.800 that Stephen Lorenzo was into so that. 68 00:05:19.839 --> 00:05:29.680 You could eat all right, we'll expand upon that a 69 00:05:29.720 --> 00:05:30.360 little bit later. 70 00:05:32.399 --> 00:05:35.800 As a result of that, the suggestion of women expanded. 71 00:05:35.959 --> 00:05:40.600 Did you then have communications in any form with the 72 00:05:40.639 --> 00:05:46.360 person you later learned to be Stephen Lorenzo? Tell us 73 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:49.439 about the communications. Tell us about how you got booked 74 00:05:49.480 --> 00:05:51.480 plucked with Stephen Lorenzo. 75 00:05:53.560 --> 00:05:59.800 We had finally a gun again? How creates message check to. 76 00:06:06.319 --> 00:06:15.360 Meeting to. 77 00:06:22.360 --> 00:06:26.480 The first available AOL chat between Scott Schweikert and Stephen 78 00:06:26.480 --> 00:06:31.319 Lorenzo is from October fifteenth, two thousand and three, less 79 00:06:31.360 --> 00:06:34.040 than two and a half months before Jason Galehouse and 80 00:06:34.079 --> 00:06:39.199 Michael Walcholtz went missing twenty three hours apart in Tampa, Florida, 81 00:06:40.800 --> 00:06:44.480 and if this is in fact their first ever online chat, 82 00:06:45.199 --> 00:06:49.720 it begs the question of how they were introduced, under 83 00:06:49.759 --> 00:06:54.560 what context and whether there was any other prior contact. 84 00:06:55.399 --> 00:06:59.519 Because the two men are immediately comfortable discussing raping and 85 00:06:59.560 --> 00:07:04.839 disappear hearing victims. We don't have access to their chats 86 00:07:04.879 --> 00:07:08.920 and their entirety, but we do have snippets as made 87 00:07:08.920 --> 00:07:15.439 available in court documents. The first chat opens with Scott 88 00:07:15.519 --> 00:07:19.800 asking Lorenzo which gay clubs he frequents in Tampa. One 89 00:07:19.839 --> 00:07:24.800 exchange goes as follows. Scott asks Lorenzo if he frequents 90 00:07:24.839 --> 00:07:30.680 the gay bar Chambers. Lorenzo, I am a mile from Chambers, 91 00:07:30.759 --> 00:07:35.399 but don't go often since it's all pretty much twinks. Scott. 92 00:07:36.439 --> 00:07:39.240 I know I am not into the stripper and twink 93 00:07:39.279 --> 00:07:43.519 scene either. Lol. Does the twink know you are looking 94 00:07:43.560 --> 00:07:50.319 to take him permanently? Lorenzo Metropolis? Yes, twenty six oh six, 95 00:07:51.240 --> 00:07:56.800 submit many guys from there, sort of like full moon Scott. 96 00:07:57.639 --> 00:08:03.759 That's cool. Now, whether taking a twink permanently refers to 97 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:07.720 murdering them or kidnapping them into sex slavery is unclear, 98 00:08:08.519 --> 00:08:12.319 but in either case, Scott is bringing up either murdering 99 00:08:12.439 --> 00:08:16.959 or kidnapping someone in what is allegedly their very first conversation, 100 00:08:18.279 --> 00:08:21.560 and so you have to ask just how much did 101 00:08:21.600 --> 00:08:26.839 their mutual friend Limit Expander know about both of them. 102 00:08:29.399 --> 00:08:34.279 The conversation continues, wherein they discussed kidnapping a specific person, 103 00:08:35.000 --> 00:08:40.799 someone who uses the screen name Johnny Torture. Scott, so, 104 00:08:40.919 --> 00:08:43.240 how do you get him to submit to the bondage 105 00:08:43.759 --> 00:08:47.879 drug um? Kidnapping scenes are always the best ever Take 106 00:08:47.919 --> 00:08:53.960 a straight boy, Lorenzo, Yes, yes, yes, all of the above, 107 00:08:54.519 --> 00:08:57.759 but no idea where they are no trace to find 108 00:08:57.799 --> 00:09:02.879 me once released. They go on discussing the use of 109 00:09:02.960 --> 00:09:07.720 drugs to make boys submit, making straight boys disappear, and 110 00:09:07.879 --> 00:09:12.200 how when straight boys do disappear, they are often considered 111 00:09:12.279 --> 00:09:18.519 runaways by both their families and law enforcement. Scott, tell 112 00:09:18.559 --> 00:09:21.000 them we are going to a party and invite them along. 113 00:09:21.639 --> 00:09:23.480 Tell them we need to stop off at one of 114 00:09:23.519 --> 00:09:27.360 our places, drug them there, and then that is it 115 00:09:27.559 --> 00:09:33.039 for them, Lorenzo. Easy to make them vanish with no 116 00:09:33.240 --> 00:09:39.279 link to us in the least. Six days later, on 117 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:44.200 October twenty first, Lorenzo and Schweikert discuss kidnapping a submissive 118 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:49.000 to use as a sex slave. Lorenzo, I knew of 119 00:09:49.039 --> 00:09:51.399 a couple of boys that were sold to others and 120 00:09:51.559 --> 00:09:54.720 used in a few snuff type movies, so their fate 121 00:09:54.840 --> 00:09:58.120 was sealed right after they were sold. They didn't know that, 122 00:09:58.159 --> 00:10:03.279 of course, until it was happening to them. Scott, Then 123 00:10:03.320 --> 00:10:07.360 the fear is real and death is unexpected. Just need 124 00:10:07.360 --> 00:10:09.759 to keep the fantasy ones and the ones that will 125 00:10:09.759 --> 00:10:14.799 work in the real world clear in our minds. Lorenzo. Yes, 126 00:10:15.279 --> 00:10:19.039 don't get greedy or sloppy, but be realistic. If a 127 00:10:19.080 --> 00:10:22.399 situation like it is going to shit, back off and 128 00:10:22.480 --> 00:10:28.120 wait for another time. Around the time of these first 129 00:10:28.159 --> 00:10:32.080 two chats is when Scott Schweiker abruptly and somewhat randomly 130 00:10:32.120 --> 00:10:36.080 moved from his family home in Peru, Illinois, to Orlando, Florida, 131 00:10:36.919 --> 00:10:43.840 supposedly to take a personal training course. Two weeks later, 132 00:10:44.279 --> 00:10:47.960 the pair discussed luring a specific man from Atlanta to 133 00:10:48.039 --> 00:10:52.320 Tampa and then kidnapping him. And you'll remember from the 134 00:10:52.399 --> 00:10:56.120 last episode that Stephen Lorenzo had a particular interest in 135 00:10:56.159 --> 00:11:04.720 missing gay men from Georgia. Scott, he would not submit willingly, Lorenzo, okay, 136 00:11:05.519 --> 00:11:07.600 could set it when he is taken down to say 137 00:11:07.639 --> 00:11:11.679 something different, Scott. But he trusts me enough to go 138 00:11:11.759 --> 00:11:14.440 out and drink under the guise of hunting other boys 139 00:11:14.480 --> 00:11:18.840 and to talk and learn. Lorenzo, I can get all 140 00:11:18.879 --> 00:11:24.320 we need to drug him, Scott great, after that he 141 00:11:24.440 --> 00:11:28.440 is gone forever, get him good and drunk and drugged. 142 00:11:29.440 --> 00:11:31.480 Just need to be sure that he has not told 143 00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:34.039 anyone where he is gone or that he will be 144 00:11:34.159 --> 00:11:39.519 visiting me. The pair then decided to meet in person, 145 00:11:39.799 --> 00:11:43.480 face to face for the first time. They agreed to 146 00:11:43.519 --> 00:11:47.360 meet the next night, November tenth at twenty six o six, 147 00:11:48.120 --> 00:11:51.440 the club Jason Galehouse was last seen at, so they 148 00:11:51.480 --> 00:11:56.120 could further discuss abducting a submissive. They then circle back 149 00:11:56.159 --> 00:12:01.159 to the man from Atlanta. Scott, he won't suspect a thing, 150 00:12:02.320 --> 00:12:07.840 Lorenzo and set having a vehicle to whisk him away. Scott, 151 00:12:08.440 --> 00:12:10.440 just tell him we are going to another bar and 152 00:12:10.480 --> 00:12:13.399 that he can ride with us. Then when the drugs 153 00:12:13.480 --> 00:12:16.559 kick in, he will pass out in the van. Then 154 00:12:16.600 --> 00:12:19.639 we just hit the highway and he is gone. He 155 00:12:19.679 --> 00:12:22.480 will just think it's my play van. He won't think 156 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:27.639 anything of it. Lorenzo. I do a chokehold behind you, 157 00:12:27.720 --> 00:12:30.399 hold him down till he is out, and we strap 158 00:12:30.440 --> 00:12:36.120 him up not to be found again. Scott perfect. Or 159 00:12:36.159 --> 00:12:39.440 if we have access to drugs, simply drug his drink 160 00:12:39.960 --> 00:12:42.279 and as soon as he finishes it, tell him we 161 00:12:42.320 --> 00:12:46.720 are ready to move on to another bar. Lorenzo. Yep, 162 00:12:47.159 --> 00:12:52.039 all and many ways. Scott. Then we have enough time 163 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:54.399 to get him to the van before the drugs kick in. 164 00:12:58.240 --> 00:13:01.679 Lorenzo and Schweikert continue planning the abduction of the man 165 00:13:01.799 --> 00:13:06.679 from Atlanta for the following two weeks. In those subsequent chats, 166 00:13:07.159 --> 00:13:10.120 they discussed drugging both him and another local boy at 167 00:13:10.120 --> 00:13:16.039 the same time, and then torturing them both together. They 168 00:13:16.080 --> 00:13:19.759 discuss using multiple cameras and camcorders to film the torture 169 00:13:19.840 --> 00:13:24.159 and rape of both men, and Lorenzo discusses his experience 170 00:13:24.320 --> 00:13:30.799 doing just that. Their last online discussion regarding the Atlanta 171 00:13:30.879 --> 00:13:34.639 man occurs on November twenty eighth, and it's unclear if 172 00:13:34.639 --> 00:13:37.360 he was ever found by investigators or if he ever 173 00:13:37.399 --> 00:13:43.039 met with foul play while in Tampa. And on December sixth, 174 00:13:43.399 --> 00:13:46.480 the pair met at twenty six o six to essentially 175 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:52.799 scope out potential victims. Five days later, they chat online 176 00:13:52.879 --> 00:13:56.480 regarding one such potential victim they encountered on the sixth 177 00:13:56.600 --> 00:14:01.000 at twenty six o six. Scott thought about coming over 178 00:14:01.039 --> 00:14:05.360 there again and looking for that hustler kid again. Lorenzo 179 00:14:05.399 --> 00:14:08.399 then brings up a man whom he and Schweikert previously 180 00:14:08.440 --> 00:14:13.600 brought back to Lorenzo's house. Lorenzo spoke to that guy 181 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:18.679 we had that morning. We'll fill you in, Scott. I 182 00:14:18.720 --> 00:14:21.279 bet he went home and jacked off to what happened 183 00:14:21.279 --> 00:14:26.600 to him many times over Tampa. Pede were able to 184 00:14:26.679 --> 00:14:30.639 track this man down, and his story painted a picture 185 00:14:30.720 --> 00:14:35.679 of how truly dangerous Scott Schweiker and Stephen Lorenzo were 186 00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:48.600 as a pair. On July nineteenth of two thousand and four, 187 00:14:49.720 --> 00:14:53.559 Tampa Pede met with the man the court calls Witness A, 188 00:14:54.600 --> 00:14:57.600 the man Lorenzo and Schweikert talked about in their December 189 00:14:57.639 --> 00:15:04.320 eleventh AOL chat. Witness A was a closeted married man, 190 00:15:05.000 --> 00:15:08.919 and Tampa PD first approached him that morning at his 191 00:15:09.000 --> 00:15:16.039 place of employment in front of his employer. They asked 192 00:15:16.120 --> 00:15:21.159 him about sexually explicit AOL chats he had with Lorenzo 193 00:15:21.600 --> 00:15:28.919 in front of his employer. Now, it's important to stress 194 00:15:28.960 --> 00:15:31.759 that in two thousand and four, it was legal for 195 00:15:32.000 --> 00:15:36.200 employers to fire their employees on the basis of being gay. 196 00:15:37.240 --> 00:15:40.799 Witness A could have been outed by Tampa PD and 197 00:15:40.960 --> 00:15:45.919 subsequently fired by his employer, which is disgusting on its own, 198 00:15:47.320 --> 00:15:50.679 and all the more disgusting when you take into consideration 199 00:15:51.159 --> 00:15:54.840 that Tampa PD were pretty certain Witness A was a 200 00:15:54.919 --> 00:16:02.000 victim of Lorenzo and Schweikert somehow. Nineteen years later, it 201 00:16:02.080 --> 00:16:04.960 has only gotten more challenging for gay people in the 202 00:16:05.000 --> 00:16:09.720 state of Florida, with a litany of new anti LGBTQ legislation, 203 00:16:10.519 --> 00:16:15.840 including don't Say Gay laws enacted by Governor DeSantis. There 204 00:16:15.879 --> 00:16:19.399 are even travel advisory warnings issued by the ACLU and 205 00:16:19.480 --> 00:16:22.600 the Human Rights Campaign to protect gay and trans people 206 00:16:22.639 --> 00:16:26.159 from devastating impacts of laws at are hostile to the 207 00:16:26.279 --> 00:16:34.919 LGBTQ community, and so witness A denied participating in any 208 00:16:34.960 --> 00:16:42.840 such instant message conversations until his boss eventually left the 209 00:16:42.919 --> 00:16:47.720 room briefly, at which point witness A told Tampa Pde 210 00:16:48.720 --> 00:16:51.399 that he'd be willing to discuss the chats away from 211 00:16:51.399 --> 00:16:56.720 his place of employment at a later time. Six and 212 00:16:56.759 --> 00:17:00.559 a half hours later, witness A met with the investorstigators 213 00:17:00.600 --> 00:17:03.559 at a fast food restaurant near twenty six o six. 214 00:17:05.960 --> 00:17:09.160 Witness Ay told investigators that he and his wife had 215 00:17:09.160 --> 00:17:12.480 been married for more than fifteen years, that they had 216 00:17:12.519 --> 00:17:16.000 a young daughter together, and that he wasn't comfortable talking 217 00:17:16.039 --> 00:17:19.440 in front of his employer because he was closeted and 218 00:17:19.519 --> 00:17:22.920 no one in his life, including his wife and employer, 219 00:17:23.440 --> 00:17:27.480 knew that he was gay. He admitted that he did 220 00:17:27.599 --> 00:17:31.599 in fact chat with Stephen Lorenzo on AOL instant messenger 221 00:17:31.720 --> 00:17:35.279 at least once, and possibly further. He said that he 222 00:17:35.359 --> 00:17:39.160 wasn't exactly sure how many times, because he was so 223 00:17:39.240 --> 00:17:43.880 traumatized by what happened that he's tried to forget Lorenzo altogether. 224 00:17:45.359 --> 00:17:48.200 He said that on the morning of December seventh, the 225 00:17:48.240 --> 00:17:51.240 morning after Lorenzo and Schweikert met at twenty six o 226 00:17:51.400 --> 00:17:55.359 six to look for potential victims, he chatted with Lorenzo 227 00:17:55.440 --> 00:17:58.799 online while his wife and daughter were out of the house. 228 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:03.720 He said that he was curious about the dominant submissive subculture. 229 00:18:05.160 --> 00:18:07.720 He said that they chatted briefly, and then he agreed 230 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:11.359 to meet Lorenzo and another man at a cash and 231 00:18:11.400 --> 00:18:15.519 carry store on the corner of West Hillsborough and North Armenia, 232 00:18:16.200 --> 00:18:18.839 two and a half miles up North Armenia from twenty 233 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:21.839 six o six and just a mile and a half 234 00:18:21.920 --> 00:18:26.240 down West Hillsborough from Lorenzo's house at two thirteen West 235 00:18:26.240 --> 00:18:34.759 Powaton Avenue. He reported that Lorenzo and the second man 236 00:18:34.880 --> 00:18:38.480 arrived in a small red car, and that Lorenzo rode 237 00:18:38.519 --> 00:18:41.200 with witness ay from the cash and carry back to 238 00:18:41.240 --> 00:18:45.960 Lorenzo's house on West Powaton. Upon entering the house through 239 00:18:46.039 --> 00:18:50.160 a rear door concealed from the street, both Lorenzo and 240 00:18:50.200 --> 00:18:54.759 the second man immediately attacked witness Ay. They forced him 241 00:18:54.759 --> 00:18:58.720 to the floor, blindfolded him, and tied his hands behind 242 00:18:58.759 --> 00:19:04.519 his back. I'm going to share Witness AA's account of 243 00:19:04.519 --> 00:19:09.759 what happened next. Obviously, it contains talk of rape and torture. 244 00:19:10.319 --> 00:19:13.279 If you'd like to skip it, just skip ahead one 245 00:19:13.400 --> 00:19:22.400 minute and thirty seconds. Witness A began begging for them 246 00:19:22.440 --> 00:19:27.200 to stop, but they punched him repeatedly and told him 247 00:19:27.200 --> 00:19:30.559 that if he didn't stop fighting, they would hurt him. 248 00:19:31.720 --> 00:19:35.759 Then one of the men said, you might not leave alive. 249 00:19:36.519 --> 00:19:38.799 We can abandon your car in a ditch and make 250 00:19:38.880 --> 00:19:43.640 you disappear. No one knows you're here, and they'll never 251 00:19:43.880 --> 00:19:50.039 find your body. The pair carried witness A into a 252 00:19:50.079 --> 00:19:54.200 nearby bedroom, where they restrained his ankles and removed his pants. 253 00:19:55.279 --> 00:19:58.759 They began torturing him with a metal rod and act 254 00:19:58.880 --> 00:20:05.799 known as sounding. He screamed and eventually began hyperventilating. Witnesses 255 00:20:06.000 --> 00:20:09.279 reported that throughout the attack, the two men called each 256 00:20:09.319 --> 00:20:12.920 other by the names Scott and Anthony, and that at 257 00:20:12.920 --> 00:20:16.119 one point he was able to briefly remove the blindfold 258 00:20:16.200 --> 00:20:20.839 from his face. He could see the room and his attackers. 259 00:20:20.880 --> 00:20:25.000 He described Lorenzo as naked from the waist down and 260 00:20:25.079 --> 00:20:29.799 Scott as completely clothed. They re blindfolded him, and when 261 00:20:29.839 --> 00:20:33.480 he asked for water, they dripped liquid onto his face 262 00:20:33.559 --> 00:20:37.960 and lips. He said that throughout the attack, one of 263 00:20:38.000 --> 00:20:40.880 the two men was trying to comfort and cuddle him 264 00:20:41.440 --> 00:20:45.200 while the other continued the torture. When he briefly got 265 00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:48.920 the blindfold off, he realized it was Lorenzo who was 266 00:20:48.960 --> 00:20:54.079 doing the cuddling. The two men eventually released Witness Ay, 267 00:20:54.720 --> 00:20:57.880 who believes he had been drugged during the attack, likely 268 00:20:57.960 --> 00:21:00.480 when they dripped an unknown liquid on toto wid face. 269 00:21:01.240 --> 00:21:06.559 He left the house dizzy and disoriented. Because of both 270 00:21:06.599 --> 00:21:10.400 the trauma and his fear of being outed, Witness Ay 271 00:21:10.720 --> 00:21:15.680 never reported the attack. It's a strategy that Lorenzo and 272 00:21:15.720 --> 00:21:22.759 Schweikert discussed in their many online chats. Ten days after 273 00:21:22.799 --> 00:21:26.200 the assault on witness A, Stephen and Scott were back 274 00:21:26.240 --> 00:21:31.559 on Ao Wel planning their next attack. They first discussed 275 00:21:31.680 --> 00:21:34.720 several unnamed men they were trying to lure to Tampa 276 00:21:34.720 --> 00:21:40.039 from out of town. Lorenzo less time and energy can 277 00:21:40.079 --> 00:21:45.200 delay that one. This probably now or never, Scott very 278 00:21:45.240 --> 00:21:48.960 true and as you say, even if they don't show up, 279 00:21:49.640 --> 00:21:55.200 there is always the Avenue Boys. Lorenzo yep I prefer 280 00:21:55.279 --> 00:21:58.960 to follow least path of resistance and can always have 281 00:21:59.000 --> 00:22:02.359 a fallback plan. So it's good if all put into 282 00:22:02.400 --> 00:22:05.880 one basket and it falls apart, two harder to make 283 00:22:05.960 --> 00:22:10.680 up lost time. This was two days prior to a 284 00:22:10.720 --> 00:22:13.640 second planned trip that Scott would take to stay with 285 00:22:13.720 --> 00:22:21.079 Lorenzo and hunt for boys. Two days later, Jason Galehouse 286 00:22:21.119 --> 00:22:35.359 would be missing and Michael Wacholtz would be dead. As 287 00:22:35.440 --> 00:22:39.640 Tampa Peede began looking into Scott Schweikert as possibly being 288 00:22:39.680 --> 00:22:43.000 the Scott involved in the kidnapping, rape, and torture of 289 00:22:43.079 --> 00:22:48.559 witness A. They also started going through Lorenzo's various phone 290 00:22:48.559 --> 00:22:53.200 and AOL contacts. On August ninth of two thousand and four, 291 00:22:53.440 --> 00:22:57.880 they met with a man named Daniel Waters. Daniel told 292 00:22:57.920 --> 00:23:02.000 Tampa Peedee that he first met Steve Lorenzo approximately thirteen 293 00:23:02.119 --> 00:23:06.799 years prior at Howard Avenue Station, a gay bar in Tampa. 294 00:23:07.799 --> 00:23:11.039 He said that prior to that, Lorenzo had dated one 295 00:23:11.079 --> 00:23:14.759 of Daniel's former boyfriends while living in Albany, New York, 296 00:23:15.720 --> 00:23:19.000 and that at some point in ninety six, Daniel developed 297 00:23:19.000 --> 00:23:23.680 an intimate relationship of his own with Lorenzo. That relationship 298 00:23:23.799 --> 00:23:29.440 lasted two years. He told Tampa Peede that Lorenzo owned 299 00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:34.359 a second residence in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, about two hundred 300 00:23:34.359 --> 00:23:39.920 and fifty miles from Tampa, just north of Miami. He 301 00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:42.799 said that he last saw Lorenzo in May of two 302 00:23:42.839 --> 00:23:46.200 thousand and four, when he and his new partner Damien, 303 00:23:46.359 --> 00:23:50.880 invited Lorenzo over to teach them about bondage. They did 304 00:23:50.920 --> 00:23:55.440 not care for what Lorenzo showed them. Daniel talked about 305 00:23:55.480 --> 00:23:59.720 Lorenzo's history with drugs and about rumors around town he'd 306 00:23:59.759 --> 00:24:04.960 heard that linked Lorenzo to several murders. He also reported 307 00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:07.960 that while at a mutual friend's house, he heard that 308 00:24:08.000 --> 00:24:15.200 Lorenzo had assaulted and raped a man named Kevin. Following 309 00:24:15.240 --> 00:24:18.440 their interview with Daniel, Tampa Pedi met with a couple 310 00:24:18.519 --> 00:24:21.880 named Anthony and on Hell. Anthony had been linked to 311 00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:27.319 Lorenzo via AOL messages, but on Hell advised that he 312 00:24:27.440 --> 00:24:31.319 had actually chatted with Lorenzo on AOL, but that those 313 00:24:31.440 --> 00:24:35.400 chats never led to anything physical, at which point Anthony 314 00:24:35.480 --> 00:24:39.480 interjected that he would never allow Stephen Lorenzo into their home, 315 00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:42.200 that he knew who he was and had seen him 316 00:24:42.240 --> 00:24:45.960 at several gay bars in town, and that's when he 317 00:24:46.000 --> 00:24:51.240 told investigators about Stephen Lorenzo allegedly assaulting their friend Brian 318 00:24:51.839 --> 00:24:59.720 with a mallet six years prior. On September twenty eighth, 319 00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:03.720 investigators tracked down and met with Johnny Torture, the man 320 00:25:03.759 --> 00:25:08.640 that Lorenzo and Schweikert discussed kidnapping during their initial online conversations. 321 00:25:10.519 --> 00:25:13.599 Johnny Torture told the investigators that he had met Stephen 322 00:25:13.640 --> 00:25:17.160 Lorenzo in the late nineteen eighties when Lorenzo did some 323 00:25:17.279 --> 00:25:20.400 home improvement work for him, but he said that he'd 324 00:25:20.440 --> 00:25:25.640 never engaged in any sexual activity with Lorenzo, but that 325 00:25:25.720 --> 00:25:29.880 he had met Lorenzo's friend Master Scott at twenty six 326 00:25:29.920 --> 00:25:34.519 oh six. He said that Master Scott had recently moved 327 00:25:34.519 --> 00:25:40.000 to Florida from the Chicago area. He vehemently denied ever 328 00:25:40.079 --> 00:25:47.480 being kidnapped or assaulted by Lorenzo or Master Scott. Meanwhile, 329 00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:52.160 Tampa Peedee also set up an undercover operation to contact 330 00:25:52.240 --> 00:25:57.960 Master Scott on AOL and for three months, an undercover 331 00:25:58.079 --> 00:26:02.680 officer engaged in more than fourty online communications with Master Scott. 332 00:26:04.400 --> 00:26:09.079 The content of those conversations was largely Master Scott assisting 333 00:26:09.160 --> 00:26:13.000 the undercover agent in the drug facilitated abduction of a 334 00:26:13.039 --> 00:26:18.839 third party. Master Scott discussed taking gay men by force 335 00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:23.400 with the use of Rufe's ecstasy in GHB, and in 336 00:26:23.440 --> 00:26:27.960 those chats, Master Scott admitted to abducting and assaulting a 337 00:26:28.039 --> 00:26:33.000 man while in Tampa. He also gave specific instructions on 338 00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:38.079 how to roofy an unsuspecting victim, along with the estimated 339 00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:43.039 dosage based on a victim's approximate weight, and then he 340 00:26:43.079 --> 00:26:46.400 told the undercover officer how to kidnap someone without being 341 00:26:46.519 --> 00:26:50.160 seen and specified that using a house with an attached 342 00:26:50.200 --> 00:26:53.160 garage would be the best way to get away with it. 343 00:26:55.680 --> 00:26:59.119 In a September twenty three, two thousand four, chat, Master 344 00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:03.119 Scott told the undercover cop how to disrobe and bind 345 00:27:03.160 --> 00:27:07.480 a victim. Scott, once assured is off and the hands 346 00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:09.680 are bound, there is little he can do after that, 347 00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:13.599 then getting the pants off quickly and getting his feet bound. 348 00:27:14.279 --> 00:27:16.880 After that, he can try all he likes, but he 349 00:27:16.920 --> 00:27:23.920 won't be going anywhere. On November two of two thousand 350 00:27:23.960 --> 00:27:27.400 and four, almost a year after Jason Galehouse and Michael 351 00:27:27.400 --> 00:27:32.960 Walcholtz went missing. Tampa PDE arrested Stephen Lorenzo on six 352 00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:38.000 counts of drug facilitated sexual assault. When shown a photo 353 00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:43.440 of Scott Schweikert's Master Scott profile, Lorenzo immediately identified him 354 00:27:43.519 --> 00:27:48.200 as Scott and then said he would not discuss anything 355 00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:51.960 related to the charges filed against him, but he would 356 00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:58.200 cooperate with Answering questions about Scott, Lorenzo said that he 357 00:27:58.279 --> 00:28:01.480 doesn't nor had he ever partition dissipated in any violent 358 00:28:01.599 --> 00:28:06.680 acts kidnappings, assaults, or murders as those depicted in his 359 00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:10.640 online activity. He said that the AOL chats were simply 360 00:28:10.720 --> 00:28:14.480 for fantasy, but he did confirm that he had chatted 361 00:28:14.559 --> 00:28:18.480 with Scott numerous times online and that he met Scott 362 00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:23.440 in person several times, including during their encounter with witness A, 363 00:28:24.599 --> 00:28:32.759 which Lorenzo described as mostly consensual. Lorenzo told investigators that 364 00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:35.599 after driving witness A from the Cash and Carry to 365 00:28:35.680 --> 00:28:39.079 his house on Powaton Avenue, he and Scott assumed their 366 00:28:39.160 --> 00:28:43.960 roles as dominance in this pre planned dominant submissive encounter. 367 00:28:44.920 --> 00:28:48.480 He said that no force was ever used, but that 368 00:28:48.559 --> 00:28:53.559 while in the bedroom Scott had gone overboard, which he 369 00:28:53.680 --> 00:28:56.960 described as Scott punching Witness A in both the stomach 370 00:28:57.079 --> 00:29:01.319 and testicles. He went on to tell that Scott, and 371 00:29:01.640 --> 00:29:06.640 only Scott, had sounded witness A and that while this 372 00:29:06.839 --> 00:29:10.400 was happening, he did his best to comfort Witness Ay 373 00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:15.200 and told him that Scott was just losing control. He 374 00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:18.640 could not confirm whether any illegal narcotics were used during 375 00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:22.039 the encounter, but said that he did receive an e 376 00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:25.640 mail from Witness Ay at some point thereafter, saying that 377 00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:29.240 he wanted to meet up again, just this time without Scott. 378 00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:33.519 As you'll recall, Witness A told police that he never 379 00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:39.119 wanted to see Lorenzo again after this assault. Lorenzo was 380 00:29:39.160 --> 00:29:42.480 clearly positioning Scott as the sole aggressor in the incident 381 00:29:42.519 --> 00:29:48.400 with Witness A, and then police asked him about the 382 00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:51.759 night of December nineteenth, the night that he and Scott 383 00:29:51.799 --> 00:29:55.039 went to twenty six oh six together, the knight that 384 00:29:55.119 --> 00:30:01.839 Jason Galehouse disappeared from twenty six oh six. Lorenzo told 385 00:30:01.880 --> 00:30:04.799 police that Scott drove out from Orlando that weekend to 386 00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:07.799 stay with him, that Scott had made plans to bring 387 00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:11.440 two male escorts out with him, but those plans fell through, 388 00:30:12.599 --> 00:30:14.960 and so the pair went to twenty six o six 389 00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:19.480 to look for a submissive to take home with them. 390 00:30:20.119 --> 00:30:23.720 He said that Scott was essentially wearing dom cos play. 391 00:30:23.880 --> 00:30:26.799 He was dressed in head to toe leather, which made 392 00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:29.440 him a bit of a spectacle at twenty six o six. 393 00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:32.519 He said that while they were there, he and Scott 394 00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:35.960 didn't spend much time together, but that at around one 395 00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:38.480 a m. Scott approached him to say that he'd found 396 00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:42.319 a submissive to take home. Lorenzo claimed that he never 397 00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:44.960 met this person, but that Scott had pointed him out 398 00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:48.839 from across the bar. He then alleged that the pair 399 00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:51.680 went back to Lorenzo's house so Scott could get his car, 400 00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:56.559 because this submissive didn't want to be taken by two dominants, 401 00:30:57.359 --> 00:31:04.079