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Speaker 1: This is going to be a fun show tonight. I
Speaker 1: have a friend of the show on as a guest.
Speaker 1: I'm sure most people listening, you've been listening for any
Speaker 1: length of time, you're gonna know and remember this voice.
Speaker 1: But it's gonna be cool to be able to have
Speaker 1: him as a guest tonight on the show.
Speaker 2: I welcome Robin Hunger.
Speaker 3: Hello, greetings from Canada, the North, your frenemies from the North.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm you're lucky. I got John here, all right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm waiting for the tariff costs. I'm sure what
Speaker 3: the costs are going to be, but I'm ready to pay.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's tariffs and then they're drawn back for
Speaker 1: ninety days, and then they're back again. I don't know
Speaker 1: whether they're on or off at this point. I can't
Speaker 1: keep up with all of it.
Speaker 3: It's a bit of an on a get off again
Speaker 3: relationship at the moment there. Yeah, and we got an
Speaker 3: election coming up here, so there's all sorts of political machinations.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: They're pumping up propaganda up over here. We're filled up
Speaker 3: to the brim with it. But I've been dodging it
Speaker 3: like rain drops as best I can in it. And they,
Speaker 3: you know, wearing my raincoat and such.
Speaker 2: That's great. I'm glad to hear that.
Speaker 1: Glad you're taking your way as you can and not
Speaker 1: going insane. Yeah, each and every country has their own
Speaker 1: form of madness to deal with, so absolutely, thanks. Sorry,
Speaker 1: but tonight we have this was a topic that you
Speaker 1: suggested to me. It's like, oh, what about if we
Speaker 1: talked on the show about Carol? Quickly, Yes, sir, I
Speaker 1: thought that was a good idea. Why don't you just
Speaker 1: give an intro to quickly what your idea was in
Speaker 1: talking about him or and who he is for the
Speaker 1: listeners who might not know who he is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I've pulled up a few things for
Speaker 3: sources and such, just because I honestly didn't do the
Speaker 3: greatest amount of preparation other than the previous readings of
Speaker 3: his book books. But I can pull up his Wikipedia
Speaker 3: here and you know, just do a brief overview for
Speaker 3: the uninitiated, and yeah, quickly. He was an American historian
Speaker 3: and theorist of the evolution of civilizations. He taught at
Speaker 3: Georgetown University. One of the books that we're going to
Speaker 3: discuss tonight the Evolution of Civilizations and Introduction to Historical Analysis,
Speaker 3: as well as others including Tragedy and Hope, A History
Speaker 3: of the World in Our Time, which covers a lot
Speaker 3: of uh, well, broadly, there's a whole whack load of
Speaker 3: stuff in that one. But Cecil Rhodes Last Will and
Speaker 3: Testament and then the kind of wake of that, including
Speaker 3: you know, the founding of the CFR, the Canadian Institute
Speaker 3: of International Affairs, Royal Institute of International Affairs ET cetera,
Speaker 3: which are foreign policy think tanks which drive a lot
Speaker 3: of these nations decisions in foreign policy. He was, you know,
Speaker 3: in the book, I believe there's a quote for the
Speaker 3: Tragedy Hope there's a quote from Bill Clinton as being
Speaker 3: one of one of Bill Clinton's professors, and old Billy
Speaker 3: Boy had a lot of I say about him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's always referenced when people talk about Quickly, they say, yeah,
Speaker 1: the famous by Bill Clinton.
Speaker 2: So that's always brought up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, and people have a very polarizing
Speaker 3: opinions about Bill Billery. So yeah, that's kind of a brief,
Speaker 3: you know. Or you know, supposedly he got access to
Speaker 3: the CFR archives at some point and that's kind of
Speaker 3: where he got a lot of this information that incites
Speaker 3: about in this Tragedy and Hope book.
Speaker 1: And I think it deserves to be noted that Carol
Speaker 1: Quickly is really famous amongst the alternative conspiracy culture.
Speaker 4: World, right, absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 1: So he's a legend, and his books Tragedy and Hope
Speaker 1: is really the big one, the centerpiece where it's been
Speaker 1: used and quoted time after time by people within Again,
Speaker 1: we struggle to put a label on this, but conspiracy culture,
Speaker 1: I think for ease, and certainly, certainly, I would say
Speaker 1: the right wing of this conspiracy world has always been
Speaker 1: most interested quickly, and even he himself spoke about this,
Speaker 1: and the things that he's had to say about his
Speaker 1: rise to fame in the alternative fringe world are noteworthy
Speaker 1: in and of themselves really, but his books are also great,
Speaker 1: And then they're great for so many reasons beyond just
Speaker 1: the quotes that people who have are an interest in
Speaker 1: conspiracy topics. If you know all the quotes on the books,
Speaker 1: I would say, if you go and you read these books,
Speaker 1: there's so much more even beyond that.
Speaker 2: Would you agree with that?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, Tragedy and Hope itself is something around twelve
Speaker 3: hundred pages, So yeah, I haven't even made it through
Speaker 3: that whole one myself, to be perfectly honest. Yeah, I've
Speaker 3: read The Evolution of Civilizations multiple times and taken some
Speaker 3: notes on it. Thankfully you have more notes than I,
Speaker 3: so we can reference some of that.
Speaker 4: And that's more.
Speaker 3: The book Evolution of Civilizations is more of a broad
Speaker 3: spectrum analysis that you know, anyone from any position of
Speaker 3: the political or class or you know, whatever spectrum you
Speaker 3: want to talk about would resonate with.
Speaker 1: There's but there's not that divisive baggage when as soon
Speaker 1: as you uttered the title Tragy and Hope you're you're
Speaker 1: thinking of, oh, the right wing conspiracy theories. So it
Speaker 1: doesn't come with that.
Speaker 2: And and really in conspiracy world, nobody talks about this book.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it had it's kind of it had it had
Speaker 3: a rise for a while there in the twenty tens
Speaker 3: from my from my position of perspective, and then yeah,
Speaker 3: it's kind of faded away a little bit. One thing,
Speaker 3: maybe I would ask you where you first came across
Speaker 3: quickly and in these books, Well.
Speaker 1: I would say from again conspiracy culture and the quotes, Yeah, stuff,
Speaker 1: you know, because I was watching all these documentaries and stuff,
Speaker 1: and even if you start looking at nine to eleven
Speaker 1: truth stuff, this enters into the fold when you're getting
Speaker 1: into that world, this stuff makes its way in there.
Speaker 1: And so I heard about that, and I think, I
Speaker 1: want to say, I really got interested when I was
Speaker 1: listening to Alan Watt cutting through the Matrix, because he
Speaker 1: would reference the Anglo American Establishment Book all the time.
Speaker 1: He would always talk about, you know, the Milliner group,
Speaker 1: Cecil Rhodes and all the stuff that quickly wrote about
Speaker 1: in that book, and also Tragy and hope you would
Speaker 1: talk about that extensively. So I bought I believe I
Speaker 1: bought all three books. I think there was a deal
Speaker 1: where if you buy all three together, including The Evolution
Speaker 1: of Civilizations, it's like cheap or something like, I didn't
Speaker 1: even know about Evolution of Civilizations, but I bought that too,
Speaker 1: and I read it, and I definitely find that the
Speaker 1: most readable, most enjoyable, and arguably the most informative of
Speaker 1: the three books.
Speaker 3: So obviously they all have their good information, but yeah,
Speaker 3: that one is kind of like you could almost throw
Speaker 3: that one into any time in history and people would
Speaker 3: find it fascinating because it's a historical analysis through a
Speaker 3: scientific method of civilizations, and so you can kind of
Speaker 3: use that just to analyze the time that the one
Speaker 3: was living in, and you know, see where we're going
Speaker 3: and affected.
Speaker 2: Well, that's his intro to the book of.
Speaker 1: The of Evolutionary Civilizations, where he gives his background where
Speaker 1: he was interested and wanted to be a scientist at first,
Speaker 1: but then he changed to a historian during his own schooling,
Speaker 1: and then he's saying, like, look when I was studying science.
Speaker 1: I learned scientific method, and my attempt here is to
Speaker 1: apply scientific method to the study of history, and so
Speaker 1: that we have like this very real framework. So he
Speaker 1: sets out like, hey, look, this is the way that
Speaker 1: I am going to analyze history. This is my historical analysis.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm attempting to use scientific method and and
Speaker 1: have a real explanation for history. And and he's he's
Speaker 1: giving reasons why different civilizations rise and fall, and he
Speaker 1: has all these methods and and all.
Speaker 4: These metrics and things to measure it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's interesting.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: And and he's and he used this book. I think
Speaker 1: the class he is most famous for teaching at Georgetown
Speaker 1: was Evolution of Civilization, So this was the book you
Speaker 1: would read for that. And then that it was, you know,
Speaker 1: the big piece on on that class.
Speaker 2: So mm hm.
Speaker 3: And another one that that we should mention that I
Speaker 3: have on my bookshelf but have yet to really crack open,
Speaker 3: and I did find. Maybe I'll do a quick shout
Speaker 3: out for anyone who wants to find these books if
Speaker 3: you don't mind, you know, obviously, if you want to
Speaker 3: get a hard copy, you know, you can go through
Speaker 3: Aaron's link there at the bookshop dot org.
Speaker 4: Is that right?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, please do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, go to go to the link and find any
Speaker 1: of these quickly books and see where you can come
Speaker 1: up with.
Speaker 3: But if you find yourself wanting in the financial department,
Speaker 3: there's a website which I came across recently which I
Speaker 3: don't know if you mind me shouting out. Who told
Speaker 3: me if there's a great great journalist and an author
Speaker 3: and researcher named Tom Secker from spy culture dot com,
Speaker 3: and he put me onto this website called Anna's Archive
Speaker 3: a N N A S archive. You just google that
Speaker 3: or through other search engines, and that's basically a repository
Speaker 3: for almost every digital copy of any book that's been digitized.
Speaker 4: It's kind of like.
Speaker 3: An aside to the sy Hub sci Hub, which is
Speaker 3: also a site which archives scientific papers that are behind
Speaker 3: paywalls and stuff, similar to like an Aaron Schwartz project,
Speaker 3: but I think the scales from like Kazakhstan or some
Speaker 3: something along those lines. Anyway, So if you need these,
Speaker 3: if you want to look for these books, I've found
Speaker 3: all of them in PDF and other forms of e
Speaker 3: book just over the last few weeks, just to kind
Speaker 3: of do a bit of a the review and such.
Speaker 3: And then there's actually the one that I mentioned to
Speaker 3: you before. They're Aaron and is just going to speak
Speaker 3: on called Weapons Systems and Political Stability a History, And
Speaker 3: it's another like eleven d page book that refers to
Speaker 3: how weapon systems throughout history have shaped politics, and you know,
Speaker 3: from the feudal ages and you know, and then World
Speaker 3: War before World War One when all the you know,
Speaker 3: the folks living on the homestead stuffy they had the
Speaker 3: same kind of guns as the army did effectively. And
Speaker 3: then when the rise of the Industrial Revolution created all
Speaker 3: these machine guns so on and so forth, then that's kind
Speaker 3: of when the nation states really rose up and were
Speaker 3: able to kind of plant down on power and so
Speaker 3: on and so forth. And like I said, I haven't
Speaker 3: really dove into that one, but as far as I understand,
Speaker 3: that's kind of the the broad analysis of that book.
Speaker 3: And so yeah, if anyone wants to find these books,
Speaker 3: they're all available on Anna's archive.
Speaker 2: Very cool, okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that the Weapons Systems book you mentioned it
Speaker 1: to me and prepping for the show, it sounded vaguely familiar.
Speaker 2: I've never read that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And from my understanding it was it was a
Speaker 3: manuscript that when he died it was unpublished, and someone
Speaker 3: in his circle or family decided to decided to put
Speaker 3: it out, and so it's I believe it's somewhat unedited.
Speaker 3: There's probably a lot of stuff in there that one
Speaker 3: would be slogging through, But a guy like Chuck o'celly,
Speaker 3: who loves reading documents, he'd probably I sink his feet
Speaker 3: in the mud there and just soak it up, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, just listening to the description of the book.
Speaker 1: All of his other books have that same theme running
Speaker 1: through them, the idea that weapons, systems and technologies are
Speaker 1: these big he I was just reading through my notes.
Speaker 1: It was one of these two books where he says
Speaker 1: that Western civilization itself is all about technology and the
Speaker 1: development of it has been everything to do with what
Speaker 1: Western civilization is. So I know that that and weapons
Speaker 1: he talks about a lot in all.
Speaker 3: Broadly under his descriptions Western civilization even goes back to
Speaker 3: like the Greeks and so on and so forth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, there's the classical and then his idea in
Speaker 1: evolution of civilizations is that there's this period where the
Speaker 1: previous civilization is in decay and dissolving, and then on
Speaker 1: the periphery of it you get the beginnings, you begin
Speaker 1: at the beginning phases of the new civilizations that rise
Speaker 1: out out of the periphery of the fall of the old.
Speaker 1: So that that's that would be what happened with classical
Speaker 1: civilization to Western.
Speaker 4: Right, Right's true?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I suppose Western may even start to some
Speaker 3: degree around like to be what was the not the
Speaker 3: French Revolution, but the rise of scientism and so on.
Speaker 3: What would that well, actually.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm trying to think.
Speaker 1: I can't remember his start and endpoints, because he also
Speaker 1: talks about like the Middle Ages. But I want to
Speaker 1: say that he labels the Middle Ages as as a
Speaker 1: part of Western civilization, because I recall him saying that
Speaker 1: the whole idea of the Middle Ages was that throughout
Speaker 1: Europe you had all these little kingdom and fiefdoms, right,
Speaker 1: and and you had societies, and you had Western civilization,
Speaker 1: but you had no actual ruling government.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was kind of a sort of a form
Speaker 3: of anarchy in a sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you had the kingdoms that had their own rules.
Speaker 1: But then and then he also equates that idea the
Speaker 1: fact that government is even unnecessary as one of the
Speaker 1: guiding principles of Western civilization as a whole.
Speaker 2: And definitely you see that in America, right that the idea.
Speaker 3: That story to interrupt I found on page eighty eight
Speaker 3: the book, at least in my pdf here, Western civilization
Speaker 3: in his little one of his tables here starts actually
Speaker 3: five hundred AD.
Speaker 1: So oh okay, there you go, yeah, yeah, yeah, so
Speaker 1: there you go. I think he basically says, like the
Speaker 1: fall of the Roman Empire. You've got the Germanic the barbarians, right, like,
Speaker 1: you got that, and and the end of the Roman Empire.
Speaker 1: And then and he says, like split out of that
Speaker 1: comes Western civilization, and then there's a couple other ones,
Speaker 1: like the Islamic world, and it comes out of it. Oh,
Speaker 1: I think Orthodox Russian pops up.
Speaker 3: That's right, Yeah, he says, Orthodox six hundred until until now.
Speaker 3: To some of you, the Soviet Union kind of being
Speaker 3: maybe the last vestige of that to some degree, Islamic
Speaker 3: six hundred to nineteen forty, Chinese four hundred to nineteen thirty,
Speaker 3: which is interesting, like that's more the Empire of the
Speaker 3: Chinese in terms of having like the monarchy, and then Yeah,
Speaker 3: like meso American one thousand to fifteen hundred andy in
Speaker 3: fifteen hundred to sixteen BC or fifteen hundred BC, and
Speaker 3: then meso American one thousand b C to fifteen hundred eighty,
Speaker 3: so that was those are rarely long running. And then yeah,
Speaker 3: like Western civilization kind of bulldozed over a lot of
Speaker 3: these in uh, you know, the the fifteen hundreds going up,
Speaker 3: you know, from Cortes and the smallpox and the so
Speaker 3: on and so forth, and then the Islamic the Islamic
Speaker 3: kind of civilization kind of ending around the time of
Speaker 3: the Ottoman Empire, and even the Hindu civilization ending or
Speaker 3: also around that time in terms of the British the
Speaker 3: British Empire kind of you know, bothoing over top of them.
Speaker 1: Sure, well, I'm guessing I forget his take on that,
Speaker 1: but I'm guessing that would be an aspect of the
Speaker 1: Universal Empire of Western civilization where they spread out to
Speaker 1: what was the Hindu civilization, but then Western civilization takes
Speaker 1: it over as part of the empire.
Speaker 3: Well, so what I recall, we we never really from
Speaker 3: the book, we never actually reached quite yet the universal
Speaker 3: empire stage. We were still like dancing back between the
Speaker 3: age of progress and the age of conflict, which I'm
Speaker 3: just trying to find right now, and maybe you have
Speaker 3: it in your notes the uh actually seven ages, maybe.
Speaker 2: That's that's exactly what I'll read here.
Speaker 4: I do have it.
Speaker 1: So the seven stages of civilization, according to Quigley and
Speaker 1: his method for analyzing history, you're analyzing civilizations are one mixture,
Speaker 1: two gestation, three expansion, four, age of conflict, five universal empire,
Speaker 1: six decay, and seven invasion. And so those are the
Speaker 1: seven stages of civilizations. And then also his idea is
Speaker 1: that in between these stages you've got like the fall
Speaker 1: of one and then the rise of other, and this
Speaker 1: is all like one big continua.
Speaker 2: So you can't even really say like this is one.
Speaker 1: He makes a real strong point at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the book is like, look, you can't just say like
Speaker 1: this civilization is like from this time to this time
Speaker 1: and that that's all that there was. His history is
Speaker 1: this continua where there's all these like interplaying different things
Speaker 1: in different groups, mixing with each other.
Speaker 3: He kind of describes it as like a spectrum. When
Speaker 3: you talk about like the rainbow, it's like where does
Speaker 3: yellow and and orange begin.
Speaker 4: In that type of thing.
Speaker 3: It's and then there's these metrics where like a core
Speaker 3: of a civilization will start to change in certain ways
Speaker 3: before the periphery and it kind of ripples out. And
Speaker 3: so some some parts of a civilization may be already
Speaker 3: in the age of conflict, while others are still in
Speaker 3: the age of progress.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so on and so forth, and gestation for sure, right.
Speaker 3: Yeaheah, yeah, And then each of these stages, he has
Speaker 3: these kind of metrics to determine where you know, one's self,
Speaker 3: when one's one's culture and civilization, where we are existing
Speaker 3: and and kind of you know, how how to kind
Speaker 3: of recognize, you know, why certain things are happening in
Speaker 3: your in your culture that seem to be you know,
Speaker 3: irrational or something. However, there's kind of there's reasons why
Speaker 3: they're happening, and he and he explains those in various depths.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, yeah, Quickly makes a ton of great points.
Speaker 1: I really like uh Quickly's analysis of history when he
Speaker 1: has to say overall, I think he makes a lot
Speaker 1: of great points that have stuck with me and to
Speaker 1: this day I continue to you know, I've taken it
Speaker 1: on as my own analysis things like, I know that
Speaker 1: he made a point to say that institutions become vested
Speaker 1: institutions to that drive progress.
Speaker 4: Their instruments become institutions.
Speaker 1: Yes, instruments become institutions, become vested special interests. And then
Speaker 1: once they become invested special I'm just to become rigid,
Speaker 1: and the civilization is prone to falling because they're not
Speaker 1: able to adapt to whatever the new.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's kind of the main The main point
Speaker 3: of the book that I really hold on to too
Speaker 3: is like and it gives a bunch of examples. Like
Speaker 3: one of them I think it gives is like you know,
Speaker 3: sports where they you know, first time versus sport is
Speaker 3: created just you know, as a form of exercise for
Speaker 3: the for a group, and then eventually, you know, coaches
Speaker 3: come out of come out of the you know, grow
Speaker 3: up out of the field of the sport. And then
Speaker 3: people start investing money into making fields, and then they
Speaker 3: got to make money to pay for the fields, and ye,
Speaker 3: and so it becomes it becomes this whole like greater
Speaker 3: and then and then most of the time it's now
Speaker 3: it's just fat guys watching the sport instead of actually
Speaker 3: doing it. No offense to to those folks out there, but.
Speaker 2: Not that much offense at least.
Speaker 4: Maybe not too much of that, just a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 4: this is the.
Speaker 3: Quote and play guys gals. But yeah, that's a big one.
Speaker 3: And another one that I really think about is like
Speaker 3: the de e A, the Drug Enforcement Agency. So that was,
Speaker 3: you know, created in great great books about written about
Speaker 3: that by Douglas Valentine, who you're probably aware of. He
Speaker 3: wrote I Forget Who it is? Yeah, yeah, well his
Speaker 3: one of his big books is The Phoenix Program. He
Speaker 3: writes about the Phoenix Program. Uh, he actually like had
Speaker 3: the kind of the ear.
Speaker 6: Of strength of the Wolf, Strength of the Pack. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: just letting you know a couple other things. I've interviewed
Speaker 6: him on my show, Doug Valentine and capible author on
Speaker 6: the drug trade and the interconnectivity with the intelligence communities.
Speaker 6: There you just dropping in with.
Speaker 3: I've read The Strength of Wolf myself, and then I
Speaker 3: have The Phoenix Program. I haven't read that, but yeah,
Speaker 3: he's got a number of other ones, a few fiction
Speaker 3: books too that kind of tell uh stories of those
Speaker 3: those histories in a different manner because he wasn't maybe
Speaker 3: allowed to fiction.
Speaker 6: Fiction based on some reality.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and yeah, the Phoenix program is a big one,
Speaker 3: which is, you know, all these psyops and stuff in
Speaker 3: Vietnam and kind of the early War on Terror stuff
Speaker 3: kind of came out of counterinsurgency. Yeah, and probably mister
Speaker 3: James Jesus Angleton was involved. To you go and throw
Speaker 3: back to the last show, uh anyway shout out. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 3: So so sort of long story short, the DEA was created,
Speaker 3: you know, as this drug enforcement agency to combat certain
Speaker 3: you know, certain drugs. And then at this point, you know,
Speaker 3: the war on drugs, they don't want it to end
Speaker 3: because then you know, the the e A will you know,
Speaker 3: all these people will lose lose jobs and so on
Speaker 3: and so forth. So that's kind of an example of
Speaker 3: an instrument of you know, social benefit. Supposedly that's decond
Speaker 3: that's very but uh it turns into an institution which
Speaker 3: then gets entrenched and now it's just like, you know,
Speaker 3: well what do you you know, what do you mean
Speaker 3: you want to get rid of the bay that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and then I think I say we'll just
Speaker 1: address this in the o'cell dot com chat. Somebody's bringing
Speaker 1: up that quickly was a jesuit, And I mean he
Speaker 1: taught at Georgetown, so that's obviously a Jesuit school.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and he's he makes the point that he's.
Speaker 1: A devout Catholic over and over and then, so he's
Speaker 1: constantly talking about being Catholic. Then he taught it a jesuit school,
Speaker 1: so yes, of course. And I think this also gets
Speaker 1: into another point I'd like to make about quickly is
Speaker 1: that if you just take the sort of quick reaction
Speaker 1: of being introduced to him in the world of conspiracy culture,
Speaker 1: where you hear the quotes from tragedy, you know, bra
Speaker 1: Anglo American Establishment or what have you, quickly, is this
Speaker 1: villain who was the secretary for the ri i A,
Speaker 1: the CFR.
Speaker 2: He was their secret historian. He was this big bad guy.
Speaker 1: He's a jesuit and all that stuff is maybe true,
Speaker 1: but he's also an interesting, really fascinating character who strikes
Speaker 1: me as a person who wants to be He seems
Speaker 1: like a real.
Speaker 2: Was it like extroverted sort of guy.
Speaker 1: Who you know, tells it like it is sort of
Speaker 1: guy who's just chomping at the bit to say everything
Speaker 1: he knows. But he's definitely somebody who is privy to
Speaker 1: all sorts of things that he wasn't.
Speaker 2: Supposed to say.
Speaker 1: But I think because of his personality, he said as
Speaker 1: much as he could. And I don't know, there's there's
Speaker 1: a lot to be said there, but certainly, I mean,
Speaker 1: you can't completely trust the guy.
Speaker 2: However, his personality is unique.
Speaker 3: And there's a quote of some kind of He's like,
Speaker 3: you know, so many people didn't want me to reveal
Speaker 3: these things, but you know, I thought, you know, I
Speaker 3: think that they're they're all, you know, most for the
Speaker 3: most part, done for the you know, the benefit of
Speaker 3: Western society, and they should be these plans should be known.
Speaker 3: So that's like why he's like, he's like loud and proud,
Speaker 3: let's get this stuff out loud and proud, where most
Speaker 3: people want to like keep it under the wraps so
Speaker 3: they can be implemented without much pushback.
Speaker 1: And and frankly, I think most people do it that way.
Speaker 1: And I think because Quickly's personality is why he is
Speaker 1: that he wrote all these books, and I would guess
Speaker 1: that the people he was writing them about probably weren't
Speaker 1: completely happy about the whole thing. And there's all this
Speaker 1: to do about. I think McMillan was the original publisher
Speaker 1: of Tragy and Hope, and he goes on and on
Speaker 1: and on in that audio interview of him just railing
Speaker 1: against McMillan like I can't believe, and there you get
Speaker 1: the sense of his personality too, that he's pissed publisher
Speaker 1: for doing that.
Speaker 3: McMillan was at one point, sorry, Chuck, sure good, like
Speaker 3: the the the plates or whatever to print the book
Speaker 3: were somehow like sold under his nose or something weird
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 1: He was he was supposed to retain ownership of the plates.
Speaker 1: But then he was told after the fact, after they
Speaker 1: pulled his book and they stopped praying it, that the
Speaker 1: plates were destroyed.
Speaker 2: And again I'm not happy about that.
Speaker 4: He's very mad, right, we're you going to interject there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, McMillan has a very strange history with publishing. They
Speaker 6: published a lot of the like say, you'd find that
Speaker 6: they published Best Evidence in nineteen eighty, you know, and
Speaker 6: a lot of JFK assassination books, and over and over
Speaker 6: again there were problems yeah, yeah, with with publishers and
Speaker 6: the authors and you know, and maybe people didn't get paid.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 6: So this is not an unc This is where Quigley falls,
Speaker 6: you know, victim to something that a lot of authors
Speaker 6: fell victim too, which is fascinating. But also there's another
Speaker 6: thing to be said here that you guys are mentioning,
Speaker 6: and I just want to interject it because it should
Speaker 6: be considered. You know, Alan Dalles had a philosophy about
Speaker 6: what should be published and what shouldn't be published, and
Speaker 6: everybody thinks of him as the master spy of the
Speaker 6: CIA and all that. And I'm not going to get
Speaker 6: into that debate at all right now, but I'm going
Speaker 6: to say this. You know Dulles's attitude repeatedly on the
Speaker 6: record with the Warren Commission and in other places, which
Speaker 6: by the way, he was the most active member of
Speaker 6: the Warren Commission. You might as well call it the
Speaker 6: Dulles Commission. Just side note. But additionally is that when
Speaker 6: they presented to him, g mister Dulles, aren't you afraid
Speaker 6: if we publish all this stuff, you know, the twenty
Speaker 6: six volumes, you know that the public will get all
Speaker 6: involved in it and they'll know too much or whatever.
Speaker 6: And Dallas's attitude about that and the publication of a
Speaker 6: lot of things, even if it was direct documentation was
Speaker 6: it doesn't matter. These people aren't going to read it,
Speaker 6: and even if they do, it'll be a couple of
Speaker 6: professors that will write a couple of thesis, you know,
Speaker 6: documents about it, and nobody will ever read those either.
Speaker 6: That's what Dallas had to say about it, and some
Speaker 6: people took that attitude with Quiggly, and I think Quiggly
Speaker 6: had mixed feelings about it.
Speaker 1: You know, you know what, Chuck, I have to stop
Speaker 1: you there, because this makes a point that quickly brings
Speaker 1: up and I'm pretty sure it's Tragy in Hope.
Speaker 6: That's why he's yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: He said, look, intelligence work, they're not dealing with all
Speaker 1: these secrets that nobody else knows. Everything about intelligence work
Speaker 1: is open source, everything is open, everything's there. It's just
Speaker 1: these are the guys that are actually like doing the work.
Speaker 1: And then he also mentions the same thing about the
Speaker 1: nuclear uh information and actual research nuclear research during the
Speaker 1: Cold War. He said, look, internationally, all the scientists had
Speaker 1: access to the same stuff, So it's not like there
Speaker 1: were Russian secrets technological secrets that the US didn't know
Speaker 1: and vice versa. Everybody knew everything, and so like this
Speaker 1: this version this strange like accepted version of reality that
Speaker 1: most people believe is not true whatsoever. There aren't all
Speaker 1: We don't live in this world of secrets. We live
Speaker 1: in this world of open information. And doesn't that say
Speaker 1: a whole lot if we're talking about, you know, like
Speaker 1: the secret history the world, if we want to take
Speaker 1: a view of you know, these guys that quickly was
Speaker 1: a historian for are these secret rulers and all that?
Speaker 2: Like She's this idea is just fascinating to me.
Speaker 3: It's just, yeah, this subject is so boring to the
Speaker 3: majority of people that they and you've got to spend
Speaker 3: so much time pouring over white papers and books and
Speaker 3: this and that that that you know, like most people
Speaker 3: working a nine to five are not gonna even stip
Speaker 3: their toes into you because it's just you know, untenable
Speaker 3: for for for most it's a lot of work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a big time investment.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And yeah, going back to where I learned about Carol Quigley,
Speaker 3: I think definitely in within conspiracy culture and certain documentaries
Speaker 3: may have mentioned it and stuff, and probably even Alex
Speaker 3: Jones at times on his show, which I dabbled in
Speaker 3: back in the day. But I really think like the
Speaker 3: evolution of civilizations. I'm pretty positive I learned about from you, Aaron,
Speaker 3: you spoke about it. And then also I want to
Speaker 3: shut out Richard grow from Tragedy and Hoope dot com.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't really subscribe to everything he's on
Speaker 3: board with these days, and I don't know, but he
Speaker 3: probably probably you know, not everybody subscribed to everything that
Speaker 3: anyone is espousing too. So, but he did a really
Speaker 3: interesting job of For for instance, they in like the
Speaker 3: early twenty tens or so, he like every copy he
Speaker 3: could from different publishers of Tragedy and Hope and then
Speaker 3: spent the time to compare word for word each copy.
Speaker 3: And there were a number of copies that were we
Speaker 3: had some sections that were like taken out, which is
Speaker 3: which is kind of an interesting concept in itself. And uh,
Speaker 3: and so yeah, I just want to shout out Richard
Speaker 3: Grove and also Kevin Cole And he's the one that
Speaker 3: I wrote that article that I say, you don't know
Speaker 3: if you want to touch on that at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, I might have to put that
Speaker 1: link to that article in the notes for this show
Speaker 1: because it was really good and it also references that
Speaker 1: audio clip where Quickly is interviewed, which exists on on
Speaker 1: YouTube I know as audio and this very I highly
Speaker 1: recommend listening to that. It's interesting just to hear the
Speaker 1: guy talk again. His personality comes through on that as
Speaker 1: you get a feel from there. But also you're you're
Speaker 1: edging up to one of my favorite publishing houses, which
Speaker 1: is GSG and Associates, which is the current publisher of
Speaker 1: the authentic version first printing of Tragedy and Hope is
Speaker 1: authentically and faithfully reproduced. Now you can still buy it
Speaker 1: through the GSG and Associates. They just took pictures of
Speaker 1: the pages, I think, and then they used that they're
Speaker 1: based out of San Pedro out here in southern California.
Speaker 1: Just you know, you're in Long Beach, go over the
Speaker 1: Vincent Thomas Bridge, and once you go over to the
Speaker 1: Vincent Thomas Bridge, GSG and Associates office is right there
Speaker 1: in the main part of the port area of San Pedro.
Speaker 1: Fore anybody cares about southern California geography, but they're right
Speaker 1: over there. And you know this, Robin I was trying
Speaker 1: to call them for a time. I was trying to
Speaker 1: get the guy who owns the publisher on as a
Speaker 1: guest and yeah, all that stuff, but whatever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you mentioned that the there's a good chance that
Speaker 3: And for those unfamiliar, there's a there's a guy named
Speaker 3: John John Birch as John Birch Society, which is kind
Speaker 3: of a quite right wing anti communists group.
Speaker 4: I don't know a lot.
Speaker 3: About them, but they they love to quote quickly in
Speaker 3: different fashions and and so yeah, you kind of suspect
Speaker 3: it might be uh an acolyte of the of the
Speaker 3: John Birch Society. It might be this GSG. And just
Speaker 3: to note, he the GSG book is the one that
Speaker 3: is faithful to the original book.
Speaker 4: So you know there's something something.
Speaker 1: It's the one to buy now. Frankly, if you're going
Speaker 1: to buy one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, nice hardcover and whatever.
Speaker 1: I want to say, if you're buying a new copy
Speaker 1: of it, that's where it's gonna be coming from.
Speaker 2: Anyway.
Speaker 1: I think that's really the only source for it, or
Speaker 1: it was when I bought it. I want to say.
Speaker 1: I think they're they're keeping that up. It would be
Speaker 1: I'm curious to know how many copies of that they sell.
Speaker 2: Actually, I'm sure.
Speaker 3: There was a kind of a real pop off of
Speaker 3: it in the twenty tens and now it's kind of
Speaker 3: probably just trickling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it seems like it's dropped off dramatically because
Speaker 1: how much do you hear people talk about the Royal
Speaker 1: Institute of International Affairs the CFR.
Speaker 3: Quickly there was a there's an interesting video clip of
Speaker 3: Hillary from a number of years ago where she was
Speaker 3: talking to some type of I don't know if it
Speaker 3: was a CFR dinner or a State department kept a
Speaker 3: dinner where she's like, oh, the State Department has recently
Speaker 3: moved closer to the CFR, so we don't have to
Speaker 3: walk very far to get our marching orders effectively, is
Speaker 3: the quote, and then she laughs, like the wicked witch
Speaker 3: of the West she is.
Speaker 1: Well, she just proves how evil she is. And yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's something we just can't get enough of.
Speaker 3: Maybe I could touch on a little bit like a
Speaker 3: lot of this history that quickly covers in Anglo American
Speaker 3: establishment and strategy and tragedian and hope is a lot
Speaker 3: more broad, but Anglo American establishment talks about there's this
Speaker 3: character in the British Empire called Cecil Rhodes. He was
Speaker 3: I believe considered, you know, the founder of of South
Speaker 3: Africa in many ways. He he ran the De Beers
Speaker 3: diamond mining company and in his.
Speaker 6: Sorry, Rhodesia, Rhodesia the roads program.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, everyone would know the Rhodes scholars And so
Speaker 3: part of his last one testament was his money was
Speaker 3: left partly for this Rhodes Scholarship out of something that
Speaker 3: Last Souls College.
Speaker 4: Or what's all all Souls All Souls? Yeah, out of
Speaker 4: all UK No.
Speaker 2: No, no, Oxford is or is it a division of Oxford?
Speaker 2: I don't remember.
Speaker 4: I think it is. Yeah, I believe it.
Speaker 3: Okay, somebody might be up, but maybe chuck fact that
Speaker 3: check fact checked that force.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: It's a highly prestigious UK school where basically like aristocrats
Speaker 1: go to get.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like many many many many uh prime Ministers of
Speaker 3: the UK were members. Uh you know, graduated from there,
Speaker 3: et cetera. But so he so so Cecil Rhodes wrote, uh,
Speaker 3: you know, his last will and testament, and and in
Speaker 3: that he left a bunch of money to create this
Speaker 3: what was eventually called like the Milner Roundtable, Milner's Kindergarten,
Speaker 3: there's a few other names for it, and and part
Speaker 3: of their like in his will. Part of the mandate
Speaker 3: was basically to attempt to return the British Empire to
Speaker 3: some form of glory and and then I don't know
Speaker 3: if it's in his will and testament, but a result
Speaker 3: of that was the creation of these foreign policy think
Speaker 3: tanks within the Commonwealth as well as the United States.
Speaker 3: So any like Australia, South Africa, Canada, New Zealand in
Speaker 3: the United States, if I didn't and then maybe a
Speaker 3: few others India, I suppose they created these foreign policy
Speaker 3: think tanks. The CFR is kind of the most well known,
Speaker 3: and the idea behind that was that if if the
Speaker 3: British could control the foreign policy positions and actions of
Speaker 3: any of these countries, it didn't matter what their domestic
Speaker 3: policies were, because they could, you know, be they would
Speaker 3: be manipulated into doing the bidding and you know, returning
Speaker 3: the British to some form of control in that in
Speaker 3: that realm.
Speaker 4: Is that something?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's general correct.
Speaker 1: And as you're saying all this, Robin, somebody's coming to
Speaker 1: mind for me, because I'm more familiar with the John
Speaker 1: Birch right wing American the John Birch right wing take
Speaker 1: of conspiracy, view on Quigley's work and all of this.
Speaker 1: But I'm wondering something I'm less familiar with is the
Speaker 1: Rouge group. That's very conspiratorial, and I know that their
Speaker 1: whole idea is that the British Empires has always been
Speaker 1: and still is in control of everything.
Speaker 2: So I wonder if they've glombed on this. Are you
Speaker 2: aware if they have? I don't even know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Lyndon Larus, I think is that guy's name. I
Speaker 3: really haven't dug much more than surface into that aspect myself,
Speaker 3: so I can't speak on that.
Speaker 2: You would think that they would, yeah.
Speaker 4: I would say you almost guaranteed.
Speaker 2: The day you think that they would lift.
Speaker 3: Every one of those members have a tragedy.
Speaker 4: And hope on their shelf.
Speaker 6: And yeah, the Laruge guys are very difficult to boil
Speaker 6: down because every time I've run into them, it seems
Speaker 6: like they've added more to the mosaic of their conspiracy theory.
Speaker 6: I mean I literally ran into them outside a US
Speaker 6: post office a few years ago, seriously, in Jersey. It
Speaker 6: was probably about well it's more than ten years ago now,
Speaker 6: but still I'm just going to mail a letter, and
Speaker 6: these guys have a table set up outside of the
Speaker 6: post office area and they want me to take their
Speaker 6: book about how Barack Obama is pretty much the Antichrist.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, actually, you mention it. I do have
Speaker 4: a book.
Speaker 3: I believe by the LaRouche group on my bookshelf. Call
Speaker 3: and maybe correct me if I'm wrong, But it's Britain's
Speaker 3: Opium War Dope inc. Britain's Opium War against the World.
Speaker 3: I believe that's a LaRouche published. What was there the
Speaker 3: Intelligence Review or something. Wasn't that there like publishing house
Speaker 3: or something, Chuck you, I will.
Speaker 6: Check it out. Let me take a quick look at that,
Speaker 6: because I remember what you're saying. They actually have several
Speaker 6: books that they published about the opium wars.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're actually the whole other interesting history.
Speaker 6: But yeah, and they're actually fairly accurate historically. I mean,
Speaker 6: they're not bad. But when you run series, it's the
Speaker 6: take on it, right, that's the whole point. The take
Speaker 6: on it is. That's the weird thing. Like what I'm
Speaker 6: talking about with the Barack Obama is the Antichrist thing
Speaker 6: is a separate issue. But they also published some historical stuff.
Speaker 6: That's why I'm saying the LaRouche organization is difficult to
Speaker 6: nail down. You know, we could do a series of
Speaker 6: shows just on them anytime.
Speaker 1: I feel like, here's my I feel like if he
Speaker 1: went up to that table outside the post office he
Speaker 1: talked to a Larusian and be like, and I mad
Speaker 1: Carol quickly, wasn't that awesome how he totally exposed the
Speaker 1: British Empire? And then they would quickly correct you on
Speaker 1: how you're wrong about that, and they would give you
Speaker 1: the real scoop whatever that.
Speaker 2: I bet that's how it would go. Oh, just imagining.
Speaker 6: I don't know. We see. I didn't do that because
Speaker 6: I didn't have that in my head at the time.
Speaker 6: But I just kind of went they started talking to
Speaker 6: me about the jfk assassination. I went, oh, you guys
Speaker 6: picked the wrong guy, and so they wanted to know
Speaker 6: what I meant by that, and by the time I
Speaker 6: was done, I actually got them to be quiet. But
Speaker 6: they turned around and they're like, so do you want
Speaker 6: to buy a book? And uh, yeah, that was wrong.
Speaker 6: They were just trying to sell books. That was the
Speaker 6: end of it for me. It was like, we're not
Speaker 6: going to bother talking to you because you just because
Speaker 6: I just ran them down on the JFK thing that
Speaker 6: they threw up me and they were just like, so
Speaker 6: do you want to buy a book? And I'm like, no, thanks, right,
Speaker 6: you know, I.
Speaker 3: Took We're getting closer closer to the end. So I
Speaker 3: just there's one one thing that that I wanted to
Speaker 3: touch on that that from the abolition of civilizations that
Speaker 3: I kind of think is is relevant to the to
Speaker 3: the day today. Is like, I think we are currently
Speaker 3: in a age of conflict from Quigley's perspective. And there's
Speaker 3: a number of I just pulled up on the on
Speaker 3: the book here, there's a number of there's a number
Speaker 3: of markers that he talks about which which kind of
Speaker 3: indicate that. And so maybe i'll just I'll just read
Speaker 3: this short section if you don't mind, then you can
Speaker 3: comment and before.
Speaker 6: You read, before you read that, just to answer your question.
Speaker 6: The specific name, and I knew i'd mix it up
Speaker 6: unless I looked it up, is the Executive Intelligence Review.
Speaker 6: That is the editor and chief and publisher for the Larus.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's the one that we wrote that book
Speaker 3: that doping and see I can you remember the author
Speaker 3: of that one, chuck, and you look at that one
Speaker 3: up for me, that person is an interesting chap as well.
Speaker 6: That's the funny thing about this is if you go
Speaker 6: to like the Amazon link on it right now, the
Speaker 6: author is also listed as the Executive Intelligence Review.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, morphous man.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like if you look at that, and I'm looking
Speaker 6: at the cover of the book right now, just trying
Speaker 6: to get a quick you know, like maybe they snuck
Speaker 6: an author's name onto it, but just to let you
Speaker 6: guys know, I mean in real time, it's literally by
Speaker 6: the editors of the Executive Intelligence Review, Okay.
Speaker 1: The shadow shadow or why can't they be more like
Speaker 1: the scientologists and just say el Ron Hubbard wrote everything? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: come on, we need an author here. You get a trip,
Speaker 1: you attribute it to somebody, make up a name.
Speaker 2: I don't sare I don't want to. I don't want this, dude.
Speaker 6: The most obvious thing is just attributed to Lyndon Laruge.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: I can't believe they don't do that.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, the great leader in all his wisdom, he writes,
Speaker 1: he writes ten books a week.
Speaker 6: He's producing. He's producing books like Tupac makes albums. Come on, man,
Speaker 6: you gotta join. We got Tupac's album too, by the way,
Speaker 6: also published by the executive and teleg Sorry I had
Speaker 6: to do it anyway, The Opium Wore. But The Opium
Speaker 6: Wore is a good book, Robin. That's actually a good
Speaker 6: choice for sure. No, I do recommend that in so
Speaker 6: many ways. There's there's a lot of information and you know,
Speaker 6: going back to these universities and such Georgetown. I don't
Speaker 6: know specifically, but a lot of these universities were actually
Speaker 6: founded on opium money, which is it was also a
Speaker 6: fascinating history to look into real quick. Just to let
Speaker 6: you know. A couple other titles that just in a
Speaker 6: quick search again by the same group, The Ugly Truth
Speaker 6: about the Anti Defamation League, Travesty, A true crime Story,
Speaker 6: The DuPont kidnap case, and the Larouge Railroad Larouge. Will
Speaker 6: this man become President? Okay?
Speaker 4: I was wishful thinking right there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it'll plan de Bush para legalizer Los Drgas Colombia.
Speaker 4: Okay, nice, we got a Spanish legion, yes, And.
Speaker 6: Let's see bushes surrendered to dope ink e i r.
Speaker 6: Special report published in nineteen ninety one, I'm just letting
Speaker 6: you know some of the other books here and one
Speaker 6: of the other hard copies just real fast is a
Speaker 6: derivative assassination. Who killed Indira Gandhi?
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm not even familiar who that is?
Speaker 4: So l Gandhi? Oh Gandhi like Mohammed god Well.
Speaker 6: In Dear Gandhi? She was what the prime minister? Yeah,
Speaker 6: the Prime Minister of India permanent got gots okay, and
Speaker 6: then they assassinated her.
Speaker 3: So anyway, I see, Okay, So going back to the
Speaker 3: section about the age of conflict on us read sure,
Speaker 3: there's there's a couple of indicators that that I feel
Speaker 3: are currently kind of really poking themselves out. So as
Speaker 3: soon as the rate of expansion in a civilization begins
Speaker 3: to decline noticeably, it enters stage four, the age of conflict.
Speaker 3: This is probably the most complex, most interesting, and most
Speaker 3: critical of all the seven stages. It is marked by
Speaker 3: four chief characteristics. It is a period of declining rate
Speaker 3: of expansion. It is a period of growing tension of
Speaker 3: evolution and increasing class conflicts, especially in the core area
Speaker 3: the United States. It is a period of increasingly frequent
Speaker 3: and increasingly violent imperialist wars, and it is a period
Speaker 3: of growing irrationality, pessimism, superstitions, and other worldliness. The declining
Speaker 3: rate of expansion is caused by the institutionalization of the
Speaker 3: instrument of expansion. The growing class conflicts arise from the
Speaker 3: rausing tension of evolution. And this is not evolution you
Speaker 3: know from the human perspective, but more of a cultural perspective,
Speaker 3: I believe from the obvious conflict of interests between a
Speaker 3: society adapted to expansion and the vested interests controlling the
Speaker 3: uninvested pluses of institution of expansion, who fear social change
Speaker 3: more than anything else. Usually there is a majority of
Speaker 3: the frustrated struggle struggling against the minority of the vested interests.
Speaker 3: Although usually neither side has any clear idea of the
Speaker 3: real issues at stake or what would give a workable
Speaker 3: solution to the crises. All programs for sharing the surplus
Speaker 3: of the few among the discontented many are worse than useless.
Speaker 3: Since expansion can be resumed only if the three necessary
Speaker 3: elements of an instrument of expansion are provided, and the
Speaker 3: dissipation pardon me of surpluses among a larger mass of
Speaker 3: consumers will not provide any one of these three necessary elements,
Speaker 3: and we could kind of go back to Oh, sorry
Speaker 3: that I believe they does touch on them here. Sorry,
Speaker 3: So let me just continue a little bit longer. On
Speaker 3: the contrary, most revolutionary programs aroused by the failure of
Speaker 3: the third element investment, will merely make the crisis more
Speaker 3: acute by destroying the second element, accumulation of surplus. The
Speaker 3: only sensible or workable solution to the crises of the
Speaker 3: civilization would be to reform or circumvent the old institution
Speaker 3: of expansion by establishing again the three basic elements of
Speaker 3: any instrument of expansion, which I believe the first element
Speaker 3: is something like creativity or ininuity or do you remember
Speaker 3: that one Aaron or the other been down in here.
Speaker 3: I don't have that in my notes right right before me. Now, Yeah,
Speaker 3: let me just dip back and you can kind of
Speaker 3: speak on that. To get back to the last.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean to go back to Western civilization, which
Speaker 1: is what quickly always brings it back to and says
Speaker 1: what we're in now, and which would be the civilization
Speaker 1: in question, that is in the age of conflict now
Speaker 1: that we're talking about for Western civilization. I believe the
Speaker 1: instrument of expansion was technology. I'm pretty sure that's and
Speaker 1: I was talking about that earlier. It was all about
Speaker 1: technology and then the quickly termed for that is the
Speaker 1: instrument of expansion.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: And the another note that he makes and kind of
Speaker 3: harps on a bit in the book is that the
Speaker 3: Western civilization is the only civilization that has gone from
Speaker 3: the age of expansion or what I call it the
Speaker 3: age of progress, to the age of conflict and then
Speaker 3: reverted back through different revolutions. One of them I believe
Speaker 3: was the agricultural revolution, and then perhaps the industrial revolution
Speaker 3: was another. Maybe the transportation revolution may have been another.
Speaker 4: I can't recall if.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he does make that point, he makes an exception
Speaker 1: for Western civilization, and when he does, I can't help
Speaker 1: but think he's being a bit vain maybe, and he's
Speaker 1: not maybe given the do to other civilizations the world
Speaker 1: over that maybe they deserve because you know, because we
Speaker 1: are in Western civilization, we are Westerners, westerners. I feel
Speaker 1: that he might be displaying a bit of bias there
Speaker 1: when he says that.
Speaker 2: Although he does say that, he makes that point.
Speaker 4: Over and over again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're very, very possible rose colored glasses or something
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 1: It comes off that way to me, but I'm like, yeah, whatever,
Speaker 1: Just some of them say what he's gonna say?
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Yeah? Yeah. So.
Speaker 3: But but touching back on those, on those four points
Speaker 3: of the declining rate of expansion, growing tension of class conflicts, UH,
Speaker 3: increased frequency of imperialist wars, and then growing irrationality, pessimism, superstitions,
Speaker 3: and other worldliness, I feel that we're pretty steeped in
Speaker 3: those and in those in various degrees at this point. Yeah,
Speaker 3: what would you kind of say to that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that does seem accurate for the most part.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I know that.
Speaker 1: When you're reading that off to me, I start thinking
Speaker 1: in my head, the American political establishment at the moment
Speaker 1: is one that is just it's in an upheaval. It
Speaker 1: almost seems like the vested special interests that would be
Speaker 1: the focus of this age of conflict.
Speaker 2: It's almost as if there's conflict over.
Speaker 1: Who the vested special interest is deposing the vested special interests,
Speaker 1: or at least, you know, the salesmanship of this current
Speaker 1: regime has been all about that. It's like, oh, the
Speaker 1: vested special interests, they're the problem. We're getting rid of them,
Speaker 1: we're were the new thing. But then that makes the
Speaker 1: question is is it just more of the same, So
Speaker 1: we get in that territory. So you know, we could
Speaker 1: have a real fun debate about all this if we
Speaker 1: wanted to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it maybe a part of the class or maybe
Speaker 3: like parts of the upper class, you know, buying for
Speaker 3: the for the top effectively as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there could be a class war within the upper class.
Speaker 2: There could be.
Speaker 1: It seems like there it seems like there truly is
Speaker 1: a war within the upper class. They're not like completely
Speaker 1: aligned with one another. It seems like they're duking it out.
Speaker 1: I can't remember if quickly how quickly deals with that
Speaker 1: concept is like, well, what happens when everybody at the
Speaker 1: top starts uh fighting each other?
Speaker 3: For example, like you got elon, you know, with Doge
Speaker 3: cutting all these different programs. However, you know, the military
Speaker 3: industrial complex has not seemed to have the same I
Speaker 3: haven't been closely following, and maybe maybe he's he has
Speaker 3: started darting the Pentagon, et cetera. I know they were
Speaker 3: talking about that at once.
Speaker 1: Well, well what they were talking the dog thing is
Speaker 1: fascinating because yes they absolutely were saying, hey, look we're
Speaker 1: coming after Pentagon, We're coming after waste.
Speaker 4: There.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and it makes sense that big tech guy comes in, Hey,
Speaker 1: look I'm about efficiency, I'm all about saving money, and
Speaker 1: that he is the representative of the group that I
Speaker 1: believe is trying to take over the military establishment. Sure
Speaker 1: he will do it under the auspice of being completely streamlined,
Speaker 1: and it will be such a cost saving thing, like
Speaker 1: oh look these old guys with there no big contracts,
Speaker 1: they were just ripping you all off. Big tech is
Speaker 1: all about efficiency, and look we've got all these startups
Speaker 1: and they're gonna buy. Look it's a competitive the market's
Speaker 1: finally back, and you can play up the libertarian angle.
Speaker 3: Well, Peter Thiel's it is his involvement and so on. Yeah,
Speaker 3: this just speaks to, you know, the impetus of your
Speaker 3: website and your book specifically is is you know, we're
Speaker 3: kind of got that transition of the old modern institutions
Speaker 3: being overrun by the technocracy, uh, you know, overlord system.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and and if we're going back to and
Speaker 1: we're going back to quickly. If he's saying that the
Speaker 1: instrument of expansion for all of Western civilization is technology.
Speaker 1: What does it mean that Western civilization like the crux
Speaker 1: of this like transition that we're going through now is those.
Speaker 2: Who are at the top of that.
Speaker 1: If we're talking about technology as a vested special interest,
Speaker 1: well here to be. That's the best of special interest
Speaker 1: the technology.
Speaker 3: From my understanding, and I'm going to do a quick
Speaker 3: search just so I'm not speaking out of turn, but
Speaker 3: I believe Elon Musk's grandfather was actually a real mover
Speaker 3: and shaker in the Technocracy Incorporated movement in Canada in
Speaker 3: the thirties and forties or so before he moved to
Speaker 3: South Africa, and that Technocracy Incorporated was effectively, you know,
Speaker 3: attempting to use the scientific and technological methods to you know,
Speaker 3: measure every single piece of carbon used or piece of
Speaker 3: material used and then using you know, algorithms and this
Speaker 3: and that to dictate the way society would run in
Speaker 3: a more efficient manner.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you're aware of that.
Speaker 1: I you know what, I've heard this through there. I
Speaker 1: don't think I am. I think maybe I've heard of it,
Speaker 1: but no, I've not looked into it.
Speaker 3: So thank you for Yeah, I mean, just I'm just
Speaker 3: going to do a quick search to maybe verify that
Speaker 3: because speak of term, but it's definitely one of these
Speaker 3: tech overlord guys. Grandfather was ahead of.
Speaker 2: Well this this all ties back.
Speaker 1: If we're talking about Cecil Cecil Roads and South Africa,
Speaker 1: that's where the PayPal mafia, a lot of them are
Speaker 1: from there, right, So that's the tie back to all
Speaker 1: this too. If we're going with the big tech takeover
Speaker 1: of Western civilization, it has its own ties to where
Speaker 1: Cecil Roads in the Milner.
Speaker 4: Group come back around here. So yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 3: So Elon, here's from from from from Google. Elon Musk's
Speaker 3: maternal grandfather, Joshua hal Heldeman, was involved with Technocracy Incorporated,
Speaker 3: a movement that advocated for replacement of democrat democratic governments
Speaker 3: with the governments by technocrats or experts. Pattleman, born in Canada,
Speaker 3: became the head of the Canadian branch of Technocracy Incorporated
Speaker 3: in the thirties, partly as a reaction to Franklin D.
Speaker 3: Roosevelt's New Deal reforms. This movement believed that the government
Speaker 3: should be run by scientists and engineers rather than politicians,
Speaker 3: reflecting Aldoman's belief of in technocratic governments and I believe
Speaker 3: they were kind of chased out of Canada in some fashion,
Speaker 3: so that's kind of why moved. There's an interesting article
Speaker 3: actually two weeks ago. Okay, this is not when I read,
Speaker 3: but in the conversation about this, and yeah, there's a
Speaker 3: few other articles I've read in the past about this. Wow,
Speaker 3: so people are kind of tapping into it a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I actually sorry, I've actually looked at I live in Victoria, BC,
Speaker 3: and it's a university called University of Victoria, and they
Speaker 3: in their archives I've looked up on their site have
Speaker 3: a bunch of interesting like advertisements and stuff that were
Speaker 3: running the in the local newspapers and running the university
Speaker 3: kind of newspaper advertising technocracy in a really you know,
Speaker 3: in the old old timey way of the of the
Speaker 3: funky advertisements of those days. So I've actually posted them
Speaker 3: on Twitter in the past, speaking of Elon Musk there
Speaker 3: and then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's fascinating and it really comes around.
Speaker 6: It does.
Speaker 1: There's so many tie ins here, and unfortunately we're at
Speaker 1: the end of the show here. I mean, there's so
Speaker 1: much we go on and on about this for hours.
Speaker 1: There's so many actions.
Speaker 4: We'll have to revisit it here, we'll have to revisit it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe we'll pick up this show where we left
Speaker 1: off sometimes, have you back man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, even you know, maybe next week people will want
Speaker 3: to break But in the next few weeks I could
Speaker 3: look more into this, you know, technocracy Incorporated and use
Speaker 3: Grandfather and other things, and we could we could, you know,
Speaker 3: paint some more pictures of the strange history of the world.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so listeners, if you would like to hear that,
Speaker 1: send me an email Franz at the Age of Transitions
Speaker 1: dot com and let me know what.
Speaker 2: You think of that.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm really open to that because I had
Speaker 1: a lot of fun today, Robin. But for now, you know,
Speaker 1: you know what's going on now, right.
Speaker 4: I am ready for Uncle the podcast.
Speaker 2: All right, So you're gonna stay on the line.
Speaker 3: Then, yeah, and maybe I'll just shout out. I have
Speaker 3: an art page. I do some stone carving and three
Speaker 3: D printing and some other other machinations.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I highly recommend these cool skulls. I highly recommend
Speaker 6: these cool skulls that Robin did. Actually, they are awesome.
Speaker 3: At our anger art are U N G E R
Speaker 3: A R T on Instagram. Please give me a follow
Speaker 3: check out that strangeness. I just bought three baby heads
Speaker 3: that I plan to turn into Two of them will
Speaker 3: be a part of a conjoined twin, one black head,
Speaker 3: one white head, and you know, keep an eye over
Speaker 3: that in the coming years. But I'm a bit of
Speaker 3: a I got a bit of a scattered action plan
Speaker 3: for all these things. So it's you never ensure when
Speaker 3: that stuff's going to come out, all right, anyone like
Speaker 3: it for having yes, sir, yes, sir, absolutely, they thank you, Robin.
Speaker 3: This is a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: And yeah, we'll just pick up where well, we'll pick
Speaker 1: up with the Uncle Show here next on the Ocell.
Speaker 4: None of that government talk on the on the Uncle Show.
Speaker 1: Just forget government talk all together for now until we
Speaker 1: do another continuation of the show on the Age of Transitions,
Speaker 1: but that's in the future weeks to come.
Speaker 3: I do quickly just want to shout out phase Shifter
Speaker 3: and the chat, and I appreciate his editions. There was
Speaker 3: a maybe I'll maybe I'll just read a quick quote.
Speaker 3: Is there time for me to read a quick quote?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sure read one.
Speaker 3: We'll we'll close out Shifter through for us talking about
Speaker 3: Oswald Spangler he wrote the book The Decline of the West,
Speaker 3: which is a very fascinating book, and faith Shifter compares
Speaker 3: quickly and Spengler. I haven't read that book thoroughly to
Speaker 3: really know about it, but there's a quote that he
Speaker 3: put in This is pretty interesting. She says, in place
Speaker 3: of a true type people born of and grown on
Speaker 3: the soil, there is a new sort of nomad cohering
Speaker 3: unstably in fluid masses, the parasitical city dweller, traditionless utterly
Speaker 3: matter of fact, religionless clever, unfruitful, deeply contemptuous of the countryman,
Speaker 3: and especially that highest form of countryman, the country gentleman.
Speaker 3: And he does another He has another quote, but maybe
Speaker 3: we'll leave that to the next time.
Speaker 2: Sure sounds good, Robin Nate, thanks for being here again. Yeah,
Speaker 2: good show man.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 3: I really enjoyed myself as well. And everyone tune in
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Speaker 1: You are listening to, Uncle the broadcast. My name is Aaron.
Speaker 1: I'm the nephew. Law here means the star the show.
Speaker 1: Uncle Hello, ladies and gentlemen. This is a Uncle show.
Speaker 1: It sure is Uncle the hundred and sixty four. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right, And I'm getting ahead of dude. What dude
Speaker 1: this said?
Speaker 2: Mean? Over here?
Speaker 1: You went ahead of me? I think so you're saying
Speaker 1: that there's more uncles in our age of transitions?
Speaker 2: Is no, no, it's still arguing with you. So I
Speaker 2: kicked you know I was starting. I'm not trying and
Speaker 2: I'm really not trying to start an argument here though.
Speaker 2: Don't force my hand.
Speaker 11: Oh watch out, trying to put somebody's hand here.
Speaker 2: Are we still a little bit jealous of being still.
Speaker 10: Your No, no, you're We're to get another one. You
Speaker 10: gotta get a custom you gotta get a cut.
Speaker 2: I need my own customer.
Speaker 10: You need another one though, I'm trying to catch it well,
Speaker 10: trying to catch up with me.
Speaker 1: Guest procurement is a regular topic on the show. We
Speaker 1: might get back into that, but let's just welcome everybody
Speaker 1: to the show. Cool Friday night.
Speaker 10: Taking that men and men, and I wish there was
Speaker 10: some ladies on this thing. But I wanted to tell him,
Speaker 10: you guys have a drink on you.
Speaker 2: I know one has prune juice. You chuck, what do
Speaker 2: you have? Somebody's drinking prune juice right now.
Speaker 6: Me, I don't have anything right. I don't know who's
Speaker 6: got prune juice.
Speaker 10: But the man that you just talked to.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yes, I have heard you. Not you keep
Speaker 2: sakes already Lewis lost his head.
Speaker 6: According to War from Star Trek War, drinking.
Speaker 4: Juice, it's like an intersection.
Speaker 2: It's something.
Speaker 3: Robin north Man, I'm drinking cranberry juice.
Speaker 2: So that was it. That was cranberry juice.
Speaker 11: My mistake, my mistake that I was mistdient.
Speaker 2: I los track.
Speaker 10: So I've been drinking that and I was drinking I
Speaker 10: drank that, and I drink this.
Speaker 2: I've been drinking this stuff. Lose track.
Speaker 3: One is good for regularity out the number two, and
Speaker 3: then one is good for regularity out the number one.
Speaker 4: There you go, hey, And.
Speaker 6: Just so you know, uncle, we got listeners in Germany,
Speaker 6: a couple in Canada tonight, and uh we got one
Speaker 6: in Australia, and let's see all across the US, US, US, OH,
Speaker 6: one UK and one in Spain.
Speaker 3: I made I made a post on my Facebook before
Speaker 3: I went on, so hopefully some of my friends had
Speaker 3: tuned into the inter transitions.
Speaker 4: Awesome cool, Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 2: I hope so.
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Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 4: And thank you message Chuck, he will call you. Thank you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got a great show last one. There very
Speaker 3: interesting topics.
Speaker 4: Uncle. You opp to tune to that one lot of
Speaker 4: information for you.
Speaker 10: Listen to listen to listen to the nut president we've
Speaker 10: got Now.
Speaker 4: We touched on that very briefly, if at all, but.
Speaker 2: A little bit, a little bit. He's a nut.
Speaker 4: He's a nut. Just be trying to crack.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're trying. We're trying. We're doing what we can.
Speaker 2: Unclefull tonight. I know how we feeling.
Speaker 4: You're okay over there?
Speaker 2: You seem a little out of search there. What's going on.
Speaker 2: What's the matter. We got to get some clue was on?
Speaker 2: Actually is Jimmy Alam? Do we have another call?
Speaker 6: He said.
Speaker 4: Jimmy will not at noon today, so he'll be up
Speaker 4: all night.
Speaker 1: We might not have another call yet, but please do
Speaker 1: join us in the meantime, Uncle, do we need to
Speaker 1: do our drink?
Speaker 2: Do we have we have specially?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we can do on a drink. So if anybody's
Speaker 2: got a drink. Oh, there's the call. Call, there's the call. Okay,
Speaker 2: the answer to me. They answer, Hello, Uncle Joe, Hello, Hello.
Speaker 6: New call. I did connect you.
Speaker 12: Bust the move with the governor of Minnesota.
Speaker 2: My buddy's back. Where you've been lately?
Speaker 12: It's been a long time, but I've been very, very busy.
Speaker 12: I picked the kid off the ground. He was pleased.
Speaker 12: I said, kid, we ain't got time to believe you done.
Speaker 2: You got yourself a drink tonight.
Speaker 12: I'm always drinking with the spent one spent cat.
Speaker 10: All right, because I've got me We've got a test
Speaker 10: on two beams tonight.
Speaker 4: Ca oh.
Speaker 2: Is, let's give me a good show.
Speaker 4: I know with him back all right?
Speaker 12: So so you had to wrestle, that's the bottom line.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, see we get.
Speaker 12: Man, it's the spent one. It's been a long time.
Speaker 12: I love you guys. I missed you guys. Aaron, Uncle, Hey,
Speaker 12: what happened to the voice?
Speaker 6: Where's the voice?
Speaker 9: Yeah, well there's they're standing around.
Speaker 12: They're just waiting to come in. I know the Rock
Speaker 12: wants to say something, but I'm just holding off on him.
Speaker 13: He's just spent this Donold, this is Donold. Let me
Speaker 13: get to take the phone for a second. Oh yes, Uncle,
Speaker 13: I really love to talk to you. You have the
Speaker 13: like and give you.
Speaker 4: I'll give you a massage next week. Such, let me
Speaker 4: get off the bar.
Speaker 12: I sure love a massage.
Speaker 2: Were some people here and.
Speaker 4: They're really having a good time.
Speaker 2: He says. That mean, buddy, got a drink now? I
Speaker 2: mean not now that calling us?
Speaker 1: Ye ken, what are you drinking? Actually, because we'd like
Speaker 1: you to review it over the course of the show.
Speaker 1: What do you have over there?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: What do you have? Well?
Speaker 12: I'm kind of an old man now and I like
Speaker 12: my michelob Ultra beer, but I like a lot of it.
Speaker 2: Enough Tonull, the ultra part of it.
Speaker 1: You've had so many that like, uh, we've we've got
Speaker 1: a lot of cars going on by the time you're
Speaker 1: done with it, is that what's going on?
Speaker 14: Yeah, it's less carves and you've got you know, uh,
Speaker 14: you know, it doesn't hurt your belly as much in
Speaker 14: the morning, and you're you know, the diarrhea and stuff.
Speaker 14: After you've been drinking for over fifty years. You know,
Speaker 14: it's kind of easier on you in your.
Speaker 12: Old age, I guess. And uh yeah, I love my
Speaker 12: Michelo Ultra.
Speaker 2: Okay, cool, all.
Speaker 12: Right, it's easy, it's smooth.
Speaker 15: I don't know what else I could say. I like
Speaker 15: Miller Lite and Cords Light too, not as much as
Speaker 15: Michelo Ultra, though, But you know, I'm drinking Mudwiser.
Speaker 12: I'm drinking the good hard you know, those ales that
Speaker 12: will tear up your stomach if you drink too many
Speaker 12: of them.
Speaker 4: And uh.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I just like a smooth drinking experience.
Speaker 2: All right, sounds good.
Speaker 1: All right, So by the end of the show, we're
Speaker 1: going to get you de rated one out of ten
Speaker 1: or one to ten.
Speaker 2: But right now, uncle, we got to open our drink too.
Speaker 11: Open these two drinks, these drinks from the.
Speaker 2: Cool Mountain Dew be us.
Speaker 1: We're picking up where we left off last show. Is
Speaker 1: drinking the twenty four pack, the mixed pack of the Baha.
Speaker 11: These are the last two left to test.
Speaker 1: Hard Mountain dews, the different flavors. We did Baja blasts
Speaker 1: last week and we did watermelon this week. It's going
Speaker 1: to be live wire, the hard mount Dew Live Wire
Speaker 1: and the hard mount due original mountain dew flavor.
Speaker 2: That's original regular.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's supposed to be regular flavor mount Dew, but
Speaker 1: the hard Mountain Dew version of that.
Speaker 2: So we'll see how it tastes. Which one you all
Speaker 2: start with?
Speaker 10: Uncle, the live wire, Yeah, that one, because I want
Speaker 10: to see the taste of the same in the second one,
Speaker 10: This same with the regular taste.
Speaker 2: Because I am the gonna open up this can.
Speaker 11: I'm gonna open up the cans. Everybody get that drink sweaty.
Speaker 6: Hey, guys, do you want Do you want me to
Speaker 6: bring on Jimmy James because he's waiting on the line
Speaker 6: right now.
Speaker 2: Pop him on too. He can come on. Okay, here
Speaker 2: you go, let's be buddy on.
Speaker 10: Does you know he's got his mountain dew we got
Speaker 10: we got we got this last batch of the mountain
Speaker 10: dew stuff.
Speaker 2: So okay, Uncle and I have our live Wire drinks.
Speaker 2: This is hot Wiatt drink Hessing now.
Speaker 4: Sugar free.
Speaker 12: Oh that's the orange stuff.
Speaker 2: That's good. Do you like the regular live Wire, Jimmy,
Speaker 2: Is that a good flavor? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I want some blue Moon? Okay, so it's worth
Speaker 4: it's worth a shot.
Speaker 12: Okay, So there's more there's there's probably more alcohol in
Speaker 12: that than my make a little vultrick hand here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, these are five. What do you got to, mikeel
Speaker 2: a bult trick?
Speaker 12: Whatever? The lowest is, it's not it's not high alcohol,
Speaker 12: but there's low carbs, it's low everything. That's what I
Speaker 12: like about it. I can drink a bunch of its,
Speaker 12: stay up and uh, you know, the next day, I'm
Speaker 12: not totally dead.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 12: If I drink the more higher you know, alcohol content,
Speaker 12: especially liquor and stuff like that, then you could, you know,
Speaker 12: fifty four it can whoop your tail. Put that way.
Speaker 4: I get it.
Speaker 12: I worry about the next day.
Speaker 2: Hey boy, hey uncle, you have real young boy? I
Speaker 2: got his age?
Speaker 12: Hey uncle, you ever, I think you're another one here
Speaker 12: on the air. That's uh, that's older than me.
Speaker 11: There, I'm going up to seven fifty seven, getting there,
Speaker 11: getting up.
Speaker 12: In you're getting up to fifty seven or on sixty.
Speaker 2: Sixty seven, sixty seven.
Speaker 12: Sometimes I feel like I'm one hundred and seven.
Speaker 6: I just turned fifty three, so I guess some more
Speaker 6: year behind you, but.
Speaker 2: Oh year behind you. Hey, Jack, what do you got
Speaker 2: to drink?
Speaker 6: I don't have anything right now. I don't have anything
Speaker 6: in front.
Speaker 2: I'm meant to tell you.
Speaker 10: I saw something in Costco and it was your favorite drink.
Speaker 10: But I think it was with food they made me.
Speaker 1: You're talking about Jack Daniels, Jack Daniel, Oh, yeah, the
Speaker 1: barbecue sauce.
Speaker 2: Write something the barbecue sauce that they made.
Speaker 6: Well, they make a barbecue. Yeah, they make a barbecue sauce,
Speaker 6: they make a hot wings. I've had it all. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I forget what it was. Chuck is a brand loyalist. No,
Speaker 6: I'm all about for the old number seven. Yeah, that's me.
Speaker 6: I like the Jack Daniels man.
Speaker 1: And yeah it's it's a good bourbon, that's for sure,
Speaker 1: and good whiskey. We have Count Pepper in the chat
Speaker 1: over at YouTube. He's telling me that he has four
Speaker 1: PBRs in right now, uncle, so he's drinking nice pp
Speaker 1: four PBRs.
Speaker 6: What is that the PBR in New Jersey, pat Blue
Speaker 6: Libbon out of New Jersey, the PBR coming in?
Speaker 4: Uh, what is it?
Speaker 6: I'm white trash and I'm in trouble.
Speaker 2: On South Park. Yes, I like PBR.
Speaker 4: PPR is good, good beer man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's been What is h what is what's his name?
Speaker 12: God?
Speaker 10: Uh?
Speaker 2: Mister Oceania? Oh yeah, herschen Heeiser?
Speaker 4: What are you drinking?
Speaker 2: What are you drinking over here? I'm the one, but
Speaker 2: I know you're on the line, Schwartzenegger.
Speaker 4: That is the show.
Speaker 2: What are you drinking?
Speaker 12: Oh?
Speaker 4: Sorry, sorry, I got a nice coup of.
Speaker 2: The quila. That's your favorite? I do like it?
Speaker 4: Yes, oh yes, so good, smooth, so smooth.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm glad that herst and Heiser is enjoying. Right.
Speaker 4: It turns me into the terminator.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 11: Hey, I've been watching some of your shows.
Speaker 13: Thank you, thank you, thank you for sport. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 13: the one, the one where I was pregnant. I was pregnant?
Speaker 2: Which one is? I love that one? Yeah, I said
Speaker 2: me And I'm Blue.
Speaker 13: Ribbon Martine ross Blad have been hanging out talking about it.
Speaker 4: Down.
Speaker 2: When will you people learn to lay off the paps?
Speaker 15: Blue Ribbon now look at the camera and say, I'm
Speaker 15: white trash and I'm in trouble.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm my trash and I'm in trouble.
Speaker 4: I don't know what that is. I don't know what
Speaker 4: that is.
Speaker 12: Well, I picked the kid off the ground. He was bleeded,
Speaker 12: and I said, kid, we ain't got timed lead.
Speaker 2: Hey, bleed me?
Speaker 4: You want to sit down one? Oh?
Speaker 2: You know what I really we've got.
Speaker 1: We've got at least half the cast of the original
Speaker 1: Predator movie here with us. We've got Herschenheiser, and we've
Speaker 1: got Governor Ventura.
Speaker 12: Oh what you allow me to die? It was Schorzenager's ball.
Speaker 4: It was I'm sorry it was in the script.
Speaker 2: Stick around.
Speaker 12: I live down in the bar hall now, but I
Speaker 12: should have been allowed to live to go to the
Speaker 12: next sequel.
Speaker 4: I don't disagree you.
Speaker 2: This is a Predator. What Predator number were up to now?
Speaker 2: Is it four?
Speaker 4: Or five?
Speaker 2: How many Predators have they made? We're making the new
Speaker 2: one right now, they making new one.
Speaker 12: We're making Aliens, Aliens Predator. There's like, you know, it's
Speaker 12: all mixed in now, Aliens and Predator. It's a I
Speaker 12: can't even keep up with myself.
Speaker 2: I did five. We did five Donald Trump.
Speaker 13: Donald Trump is dealing with the aliens and the predators,
Speaker 13: the pedalphiles hot.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, Pubby pub.
Speaker 11: He also has Pubby shooting in his pants too.
Speaker 2: Uncles get a little saucy.
Speaker 4: I thought Uncle just cursed that Uncle. Uncle.
Speaker 2: The live wire has got to do.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 1: I think first of all, stealing Robin from you got
Speaker 1: you going. And now the fact that you're getting live
Speaker 1: wire into the old system, I think a little here,
Speaker 1: which is not a bad thing.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm just saying, Jimmy.
Speaker 6: James the Mountain Dews dragging him out, Jimmy, what are
Speaker 6: you drinking?
Speaker 2: Him? Mancho man.
Speaker 12: Talking Moncho man lace to drink a little bit of
Speaker 12: vodka and orange juice.
Speaker 2: So that's what he's drinking.
Speaker 4: I'm just wanting to know.
Speaker 2: So yeah, now we do. Now we do, Uncle, how
Speaker 2: far are you from?
Speaker 13: And go visit the Diamond Dallas page and start some
Speaker 13: yoga Dallas Page.
Speaker 11: Yes, I want to get him.
Speaker 2: I want to talk to him. He would be a
Speaker 2: good guest. I would like to get him on my show.
Speaker 2: He's very into the yoga.
Speaker 4: It's true, Yes, yeah, because he is one.
Speaker 11: I actually I actually saw him live oh d D
Speaker 11: p JDP.
Speaker 2: Okay, I did see him live. Cool.
Speaker 14: I didn't know me, but I'll give you a diamond
Speaker 14: cutter and bang, yeah.
Speaker 12: That's about it. I mean, I don't know how to
Speaker 12: imitate diamond Dallas Page. He's kind of unique and normal
Speaker 12: in a way and unique. He's not like the macho
Speaker 12: man or or you know something. Brother, you know, it's
Speaker 12: not like that. He's just he's diamond out. He used
Speaker 12: to manage Scott Hall before he was Razor Ramone.
Speaker 16: Oho became the outsiders Kevin Scott Hall.
Speaker 12: You know, he was the diamond stud and uh before
Speaker 12: that he was he was Scott Hall early on in
Speaker 12: his career.
Speaker 3: But in that documentary where he uh he helps uh
Speaker 3: reds Ramone rehabilitate from an alcoholic to a to a
Speaker 3: to a good God.
Speaker 12: He saved God's life. Absolutely, he saved his life.
Speaker 4: It's a good doctor.
Speaker 3: It's a tear jerker for those wrestling fans and all
Speaker 3: other folks who think there's no redemption out there for
Speaker 3: for alcoholics and such.
Speaker 12: He you know, he ended up having a tumor in
Speaker 12: his brain and he died a few years ago. A
Speaker 12: couple of years ago. You think he made it through
Speaker 12: all his alcoholism and everything else and then died something
Speaker 12: like that. It's kind of like Samy Sam Kennison, you know,
Speaker 12: who finally sobered up and then we got hit by
Speaker 12: a drunk driver and killed. You know, when he was
Speaker 12: married and you know, his his life was turned around
Speaker 12: and everything.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 12: I don't say it's karma because that's not right.
Speaker 4: But uh, it's a comedy, tragedy, irony, it's wrong tragedy.
Speaker 12: It's just what it is. It's just crazy tragedy.
Speaker 2: So well, the clam is going, the clack room is going.
Speaker 4: We've got them.
Speaker 11: Hitting the thang think on thing, bing bing bing bing,
Speaker 11: hitting my eaves.
Speaker 1: We've got creative accidents and count Pepper in the chat
Speaker 1: over at our livestream. We've got the Ocelli dot com
Speaker 1: chat going real crazy. Uncle, did have you finished your.
Speaker 4: Live Layer yet?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I'm doing well. I think you know what that means?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: What does that mean? No?
Speaker 11: Everybody, Everyboddy don't with that drinks?
Speaker 1: Well, look we just do we still have another drink
Speaker 1: to drink ourselves. Oh yeah, we still got one we
Speaker 1: need to do now? Is rate live Wire or the regular?
Speaker 4: A Mountain dew.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so we got to rate this Live Layer, well,
Speaker 2: we got it, got to to drink. So we're gonna
Speaker 2: be a little bit of fist.
Speaker 4: You want me to do my rating first, you're doing fish.
Speaker 2: You know the system.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna rate Hardbound and do Live Layer A seven.
Speaker 1: It seems maybe better than the other one somehow, I
Speaker 1: don't know how, but it's it's no better than a seven.
Speaker 2: What do you think, uncle, I'm going five five.
Speaker 10: Really, it's not a taste. It's the taste that didn't
Speaker 10: It felt like an orange drink. Yeah, yeah, it's orange.
Speaker 10: I mean, I know it's an orange cool it.
Speaker 2: But the taste from the others, it's not as good
Speaker 2: as watermelon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not as good as what do you like the watermelon?
Speaker 1: I remember watermelon? I think he gave ten out of ten.
Speaker 1: That one Baja Blast he gave what eight or seven
Speaker 1: or something something like seven, and then this is even
Speaker 1: less than that.
Speaker 2: Yeah wow, well, okay, that's okay. But it's just the ratings.
Speaker 2: I mean, what are we talking to pay you? We
Speaker 2: just you're rating as your rating, uncle. No one's gonna
Speaker 2: change it. Let's see.
Speaker 10: There's but the best thing that these are is sugar
Speaker 10: fee and I know and I know for him, so
Speaker 10: I kick here, he will not wake these drinks and
Speaker 10: you rate them under ten, I know we will typically yes,
Speaker 10: because they're not. He's not gonna give it ten. Because
Speaker 10: when I when I saw that, when I saw this
Speaker 10: coming in, just when I saw this coming in to
Speaker 10: vake these drinks, I knew that's what you were gonna
Speaker 10: under under ten. I knew it was gonna happen because
Speaker 10: you don't like the sugar feet the time can take
Speaker 10: the sugar in.
Speaker 2: This Uncle, regular mountain dew, hard mount dew people, you
Speaker 2: got another one.
Speaker 4: You can have it there going for the line.
Speaker 3: And on reason uh, the reason Uncle is rating solo
Speaker 3: is because every mountain do you drink actually kills a
Speaker 3: number of taste buds in your mouth.
Speaker 10: Talking about that, you just reminded me you got alas,
Speaker 10: what are we that I have because we want to
Speaker 10: have to test those things.
Speaker 2: Palt like, yeah, look it, and you may have my water.
Speaker 10: After that, I forgot about that because that's the test
Speaker 10: they had, Palette.
Speaker 1: I know that you learned that on the cruise ship.
Speaker 1: All right, we got a new call caller. You're on
Speaker 1: the air talking to the.
Speaker 2: Hell Hey uncle, the count Hey, county. What is going
Speaker 2: We got a lot of people tonight. This is nice.
Speaker 6: He shout out, shout out to Jersey and you gotta
Speaker 6: you gotta look into the camera and say I'm white
Speaker 6: trash and I'm in trouble.
Speaker 4: What about and definitely like I'm in trouble?
Speaker 2: Hey what about to eagles? About him?
Speaker 4: Birds?
Speaker 2: Birds?
Speaker 5: They did.
Speaker 2: We're trying to collect.
Speaker 11: Money now, I got want a ready day, gave me his.
Speaker 2: I'm still working on it now.
Speaker 6: No, we worked out during the break.
Speaker 2: Jimmy was going to pull it out.
Speaker 6: Jimmy's already paid. It's just it's just Cooley we're waiting on. Really, Jimmy,
Speaker 6: I gotta just transfer it over because he sent it
Speaker 6: to me already digitally. But Cooley's the only guy we
Speaker 6: got to catch up with. What happened to Cooley?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta see why I can do it. He's
Speaker 2: a mane you gotta.
Speaker 1: I'll get that rascal. We'll get him in order. Everything's good.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's good to have you here, Pepper. Thank
Speaker 1: you for being in the chat as well. Always good
Speaker 1: to have you there.
Speaker 4: Man. Yeah. Age of transitions was great.
Speaker 17: You should have Robin on again and again.
Speaker 4: Good guess all right, I'm glad to hear it.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was really pumped up about that as a
Speaker 1: good job, Robin.
Speaker 4: Really.
Speaker 9: Oh, it's the boat that's also known as Pirate Radio.
Speaker 4: That's who the movie is.
Speaker 2: Okay, we were looking for Hoffman.
Speaker 6: See that's another one, but there was that. There was
Speaker 6: one called Pirate Radio that had them in boats off
Speaker 6: of British territory.
Speaker 4: It's the same movie. They just call it two different things.
Speaker 6: You're kidding. Okay.
Speaker 17: In America it's.
Speaker 9: Called Pirate Radio, but everywhere else called the Boat that Rock.
Speaker 12: Uh.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's why interesting.
Speaker 2: That's cool. Good piece of trivia there, Thank you, brother.
Speaker 12: After agreed it was a number one movie. Let me
Speaker 12: tell you, brother, it was a number one movie all
Speaker 12: across the world, everywhere, all comedia. Running wild.
Speaker 11: Hey I heard you, Hey black the media.
Speaker 2: Let me explain something to you.
Speaker 11: Now, what are you doing going against that nut?
Speaker 2: Going against that nut? Mackamedia.
Speaker 6: He wants he wants to know why you were at
Speaker 6: the He wants to know why you were at the
Speaker 6: convention going.
Speaker 2: Oh, Mike's running wild?
Speaker 4: Brother, Yeah, that.
Speaker 12: Madias, You're going to back Trump, and then Trump said
Speaker 12: it'll be all good. It'll be good here. I'm telling
Speaker 12: you to be He'll love you. Everybody will love you.
Speaker 12: I ripped my shirt off and everybody said it was great.
Speaker 12: And it all all of a sudden.
Speaker 10: We must talk, minds told me, and I mean, uh, Hackmania,
Speaker 10: we must talk.
Speaker 1: I think I get the feeling that maybe Peter Thiel
Speaker 1: might have had something to do with that little uh
Speaker 1: appearance at the convention.
Speaker 4: But hey, that's men.
Speaker 2: Well I got booted.
Speaker 12: At the wrestling show. Everybody's brewing the whole commedia, and brother,
Speaker 12: I don't care. I'm still sell beers. I'll still do
Speaker 12: the support Trump, and I'm off for Tyranny.
Speaker 6: So so Gowker. So Gowker got some new film money.
Speaker 6: Uh Walker got some fresh film.
Speaker 4: Peter.
Speaker 3: Sorry, sorry, just one second, brother, one second, my brother,
Speaker 3: it was it's two seconds, two seconds.
Speaker 4: Please please please look. I beg you.
Speaker 2: Off. You talk that are off?
Speaker 3: It was it was Peter te who funded the lawsuit
Speaker 3: against Cocker. Uh and Gocker was the one who released
Speaker 3: the Epstein black list, I believe. So there's a little
Speaker 3: connection there.
Speaker 1: All right, Goverment hours, okay, government hours, ever you put
Speaker 1: your headphones back.
Speaker 2: It was real.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I know he is.
Speaker 2: Y. Yeah, many people do these days, which is hey,
Speaker 2: wait know Jimmy, Yeah, Jimmy, back on this line. Jimmy,
Speaker 2: how are we doing?
Speaker 8: Being good?
Speaker 12: Just listen?
Speaker 2: No, just do These people can't.
Speaker 18: I can make a comment.
Speaker 17: I gotta make a correction.
Speaker 18: Uh like a before you guys were on break, you
Speaker 18: had a guest who's mentioned the what's that Crazy Club California?
Speaker 4: Chuck Bahamian Grove.
Speaker 18: Yeah, Bohemian Grove. I said that they had started allowing
Speaker 18: women members since two thousand.
Speaker 17: Someone in chat with better knowledge than me, am I
Speaker 17: allowed to say who it is. Well, I'll give him
Speaker 17: credit creative x it said that actually they're they're only
Speaker 17: allowed as auxiliary members. But he did agree that Hillary
Speaker 17: was the first.
Speaker 18: One, and he says that there's four of them though,
Speaker 18: So I just wanted to correct what I said before.
Speaker 4: Yes, they were allowed, but they were allowed.
Speaker 18: It's about the means of subtance, right.
Speaker 6: They were allowed as honorary members and daytime guests at
Speaker 6: the City Club and the Grove.
Speaker 15: That was it.
Speaker 1: The awful convenient have a woman around to play the
Speaker 1: actual woman parts in their plays. But that might take
Speaker 1: the fun away from that too. I don't know how
Speaker 1: things work around there, but it might be strange.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it might be a little awkward, as they say.
Speaker 1: But anyway, uncle, I'm kind of enjoying regular Amountain dew
Speaker 1: hard Mountain do regular flavor Mountain.
Speaker 11: I knew you were this.
Speaker 2: This is a different this, this taste. It has the push,
Speaker 2: it has a push, it does Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm not sure what it is.
Speaker 4: It seems better than the others.
Speaker 2: But we're not gonna ring an orange one. We're not
Speaker 2: raying it yet. Uncle, Your tik tak is doing well.
Speaker 2: I had thirty seven. By the way, you have thirty
Speaker 2: seven followers. What is missus down? I think she's back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think she's going to.
Speaker 2: Bring that phone up you and I'll tell you, I
Speaker 2: bet you.
Speaker 10: I got more people on that tick tack on about
Speaker 10: about talking about the suck.
Speaker 2: So anybody who has that app, it's the podcast.
Speaker 10: I got an amp of tictac, So if it got
Speaker 10: the ab on your phones, put me on you hear me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And if we're able to get anywhere with that,
Speaker 1: it seems like we're doing okay. If we can build
Speaker 1: that up enough, maybe we'll get new listeners to this show.
Speaker 2: We'll get the callers and chat roomers. We'll see.
Speaker 11: We're trying. I'm trying to do some business for my.
Speaker 2: Show.
Speaker 10: It's me trying to get like check said, get some
Speaker 10: new people. So I'm doing just that, trying to build
Speaker 10: my show up.
Speaker 2: It's crazy enough to worry, and I could.
Speaker 6: I would follow you on on TikTok uncle, but they
Speaker 6: locked me out of my account. I'm no longer allowed
Speaker 6: on TikTok for some reason.
Speaker 2: What happened, I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 6: They didn't explain it. They just locked me out and said,
Speaker 6: do you no longer have access to post on TikTok.
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 10: Yeah, and that's who knows favorite. You know whose favorite
Speaker 10: thing is? It's his favorite the idiot.
Speaker 6: Well right now there there were actually in a waiting
Speaker 6: period to see if they're going to sell it, and
Speaker 6: if you know, the Chinese are going to sell it
Speaker 6: and all that, right, I.
Speaker 1: Heard something recently, Yeah that China's mad now because of tariffs,
Speaker 1: and now that they're not going to even sell at all. Right,
Speaker 1: they're just gonna withhold the whole thing. Like no, there's
Speaker 1: no divestment. You don't get TikTok. You deserve it TikTok.
Speaker 11: So they're going to keep it nice, like the government
Speaker 11: and the China's guys is gonna.
Speaker 2: Keep I mean, that's the story of the day.
Speaker 1: Let's see what happens tomorrow and see what everybody's saying then,
Speaker 1: because you know this.
Speaker 6: Is all about well and a couple of times everybody
Speaker 6: in America got locked out of TikTok temporarily because Biden
Speaker 6: put in a band, Trump lifted it. Then Trump let
Speaker 6: a band go back in over a weekend again, and
Speaker 6: then he lifted it. So you might get you might
Speaker 6: get banned too, along with the rest of the.
Speaker 12: Country because they all love censorship.
Speaker 6: Indeed, send there we go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's part of it.
Speaker 2: That's for Sure's there's a lot going on with these as.
Speaker 2: But uncle, we're gonna make videos. It makes silly videos.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, you know you're getting down to your
Speaker 6: last fifteen minutes already, guys, just letting you know the
Speaker 6: show's flying by.
Speaker 10: This is what I mean about getting pie should talk
Speaker 10: to I get a lot of people talking.
Speaker 2: And time goes by.
Speaker 4: You're good, all right?
Speaker 11: Down, did everybody tests the numbers drink.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, maybe we should go over to Kent and
Speaker 2: see what he rates his michelobulture. We need to go
Speaker 2: check these ratings.
Speaker 12: What do you got, Kent, Well, I've got my Mike
Speaker 12: Alo Ulture. For me personally, at a ten, I would
Speaker 12: say Miller Lite would be nine, maybe cors Light be
Speaker 12: eight or seven. I've drink, you know, fifty four years.
Speaker 12: You know, party like a rock star, a rockstar that
Speaker 12: just never got paid enough. But party like a rockstar
Speaker 12: all my life. I will say this for for Mike alot,
Speaker 12: you know, Ultra give it. I give it a ten
Speaker 12: because every time I drink this, and I can drink
Speaker 12: lots of it, and I'm already working my way through
Speaker 12: my case.
Speaker 16: All rights ago, I get through it, and then the
Speaker 16: next day I'm not dead, you know, I'm not like, Oh,
Speaker 16: I got to just like recuperate like super hard.
Speaker 12: The recuperation process is much easier. So at my age, yes,
Speaker 12: it's a ten for Michelo Vulturo.
Speaker 2: Wow. Ten, uncle, that's a that's a good drink right there,
Speaker 2: that Ken has.
Speaker 4: Over the top.
Speaker 2: Okay, who else it for you?
Speaker 12: If you're just looking for taste and different things, I
Speaker 12: mean it little bore you. Yeah, you could have a
Speaker 12: nice Oh yeah, it's nice and smooth, yummy, yummy. But
Speaker 12: if you're looking for more like big drinks and mixed
Speaker 12: drinks and everything else, no, that that's you know, it's
Speaker 12: silly to compare Mike a little vulture to uh, you know,
Speaker 12: sex on the beach or anything else. But ye, haste
Speaker 12: and good and I'm giving it a ten. There you
Speaker 12: guys go oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough.
Speaker 4: I chime in about the cranberry here, go.
Speaker 2: Ahead, let's hear your cranberry review.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So actually, let me just quickly open the fridge
Speaker 3: and so I can get a I can get a
Speaker 3: brand name for.
Speaker 4: You here, because you know, not all cranberry juice has
Speaker 4: made the same. So we're working today with.
Speaker 3: With our w canudesin which sounds kind of like, you know,
Speaker 3: maybe Mennonite or how to write or something like that.
Speaker 3: And it's called just Cranberry TM and it's actually one
Speaker 3: hundred percent cranberry juice from Concentrate, which I'm kind of
Speaker 3: disappointed in seeing right now because I prefer the freshly squeezed.
Speaker 3: But you know, going back to the flavor profiles, I'll
Speaker 3: say that it's very tart not the most enjoyable. However,
Speaker 3: the health benefits for a man like myself in a
Speaker 3: wheelchair with renal issues just kind of trumps it all,
Speaker 3: if he will, And so I'll give it a seven
Speaker 3: out of ten for cranberry juices.
Speaker 4: I was surprised.
Speaker 2: How can we have another call? Well, have a colla there,
Speaker 2: let's see who this cola is? This new call and
Speaker 2: new cola caller. You're on the online with the uncle Joe.
Speaker 9: Yeah, uncle, this is ed up in Washington, and I'm
Speaker 9: I'm here to lodge a complaint. I'm hearing a little
Speaker 9: too much Trump talk coming out of your mouth. And
Speaker 9: this isn't Governor Hour. And you swore you said ship
Speaker 9: in his pants right on your own show man.
Speaker 8: He did.
Speaker 10: That?
Speaker 15: He is?
Speaker 2: He is? He is?
Speaker 4: How did that happen?
Speaker 2: I don't like the dude.
Speaker 4: Uncle swearing.
Speaker 9: He's turning the Comedy Hour into Government Hour and swearing
Speaker 9: on the show.
Speaker 2: I don't know what dogs and cats are living together?
Speaker 4: Yeah we did, we started, he started.
Speaker 2: I have to end it. You got to finish what
Speaker 2: we started that.
Speaker 9: Well, well, wait a minute, that was that was government Hour.
Speaker 9: They can don't do that.
Speaker 4: All they want over there.
Speaker 9: Dogs are supposed to bleed into your hour.
Speaker 6: Dogs and cats are living together.
Speaker 2: What happens? I'm gon show you how I afforded this car.
Speaker 2: I don't get it.
Speaker 4: I don't hate that idiot. Oh yeah, yeah, wow, that's great.
Speaker 2: We have a big problem, you know, big plump. Yes,
Speaker 2: we're gonna have a big problem coming.
Speaker 9: I think we are. I think we already do have
Speaker 9: a big problem.
Speaker 12: Man.
Speaker 9: I think we got to just keep our heads down.
Speaker 9: And uh, I think you know what, every time you
Speaker 9: mentioned his name, it gives him strength, So I'd say,
Speaker 9: just don't even mention his name.
Speaker 2: Good afternoon. The Gulf of Mexico as Gulf of America.
Speaker 19: We will be making further changes, effective immediately. Europe will
Speaker 19: now be known as America Plaza East, that Benama Canal
Speaker 19: will be known as Trump America canw of Trump, and
Speaker 19: of course, Turkey will now be known as Chicken.
Speaker 2: All right, all right, I like school man, school man.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I'm here Mann.
Speaker 6: No no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 9: My my mail room is down right now. Some of
Speaker 9: the machinery in my mail room needs repaired, so I'm
Speaker 9: working on it.
Speaker 2: I got money, we need that money. Yeah, we know
Speaker 2: how that goes.
Speaker 9: I know, man, I'm gonna get it there. But you
Speaker 9: know I had to check myself into a sports gambling addiction.
Speaker 9: Uh you know rehab.
Speaker 12: So uh you know I'm gonna I'm on it. And
Speaker 12: also yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll become addiction.
Speaker 1: I'm already ready to.
Speaker 9: I'm ready to place a bed on the World Series
Speaker 9: come October. So I think I've felt falling into addiction here.
Speaker 9: Oh but I I I think that uh Canada boy
Speaker 9: explained my situation. It's my uh how did he put it?
Speaker 9: His U scattered action plan? My action plans are always
Speaker 9: pretty scattered. But I'm gonna I'm going to get those
Speaker 9: dirty dollars out to you guys.
Speaker 12: Don't worry.
Speaker 4: I promise.
Speaker 2: I believe is very trustworth. COOLi. I'll get on l
Speaker 2: Cooley is the only one we got to get money.
Speaker 6: I will.
Speaker 1: I'll I'll dial Coolly up directed Guernsey County and we'll
Speaker 1: get on the phone with him.
Speaker 3: Uncle.
Speaker 9: Well, I think Cooli's Cooley is responsible for drawing me
Speaker 9: into this whole sports had ediction. I think so I
Speaker 9: got some words for him.
Speaker 4: I knew that was the heck is he got?
Speaker 10: Do you notice you notice something something spies me about
Speaker 10: this whole thing.
Speaker 2: Oh this Betty.
Speaker 11: He lives his Kansas city so much that he pulled
Speaker 11: all of us into it.
Speaker 9: If you think, yeah, he suckered Jimmy and me into
Speaker 9: into taking his side. Man, I'm telling you that was it.
Speaker 6: That was it now.
Speaker 2: Uncle.
Speaker 1: I know we might need to do a couple more
Speaker 1: reviews here. I know count Popper at PBR. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure if count pepper.
Speaker 2: Hey, I got a.
Speaker 9: Review real quick and I'll get off you, guys.
Speaker 4: I'm having a I'm.
Speaker 9: Drinking above my station, and I got a drinking a
Speaker 9: little bit of a bully at uh Frontier Whiskey, and
Speaker 9: I'm getting solid nine point five.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, just on the rocks.
Speaker 2: So okay, that's that.
Speaker 9: Leta try it. That's good old orange label Bulliet Frontier whiskey. Man,
Speaker 9: you can't beat it.
Speaker 4: Good man.
Speaker 2: That's your that's you, that's your taste.
Speaker 9: Yet nine point five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I look for it nine yourself. Let me get it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's going to do it.
Speaker 10: I only get it.
Speaker 9: I get a friend to buy it for me from Costco.
Speaker 9: Otherwise I can't afford it.
Speaker 11: We're going We're going to We're going to the High
Speaker 11: Mountain this weekend.
Speaker 4: We are going to the High Mountain a action.
Speaker 10: We'll get away, get away and he and missus sidekicks birthday.
Speaker 2: So we're doing something up there.
Speaker 4: It should be good.
Speaker 9: We get out there and see the UFO is up
Speaker 9: a little closer on the high.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to see this thing. Probably won't, but yeah,
Speaker 2: let's go for to count popper count. Are you there still?
Speaker 4: Hello? Yeah, I'm here.
Speaker 16: Hey.
Speaker 2: You know that we're going to have to pull a
Speaker 2: PBR review out of you before we go here.
Speaker 4: What do you do?
Speaker 2: You have a drink? Well? Wait a minute?
Speaker 9: Out of ten?
Speaker 4: And what did what do you have? What?
Speaker 2: What was it again?
Speaker 4: Pepper?
Speaker 17: A ten out of ten?
Speaker 4: Yeah, but what was the drink?
Speaker 2: A drink?
Speaker 4: Drink?
Speaker 12: Oh? A PBR blue ribbon.
Speaker 2: Oh so we got everybody.
Speaker 6: Now that's the point. If you drinking up perhaps blue ribbon,
Speaker 6: every woman is a ten.
Speaker 11: I've had that, I'd.
Speaker 2: Oh, but did you know? But you know something?
Speaker 10: Let me tell you guys something for a minute, just
Speaker 10: a moment. I've learned something on the ship. I want
Speaker 10: to test on these beers.
Speaker 11: You know what they do? They give you a glass
Speaker 11: of water and they take that and you drink that
Speaker 11: for the next one so you.
Speaker 2: Can taste it.
Speaker 1: Clearly, it cleanses a talent all that the penalt. It's
Speaker 1: like when you eat sushi and eat a little slice
Speaker 1: of ginger in between.
Speaker 2: That's what I meant to tell you before.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I definitely drink water along with my beer, and
Speaker 9: and that.
Speaker 10: This the way you had another one, and then you
Speaker 10: would have to taste you see the difference.
Speaker 1: But Pupper, the reason you're drinking water is to stay hydrated.
Speaker 1: Probably too, because you're not changing from PBR. You're just
Speaker 1: trying to stay hydrated, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just trying to You know, you ease the
Speaker 4: pain with a cheap beer, and you also stay hydrated
Speaker 4: with water at the same time.
Speaker 12: I'd do the same thing, very smart water when you're
Speaker 12: drinking some beer, sometimes you gotta do it, and you
Speaker 12: drink a whole bunch of beers. I'm working on the
Speaker 12: case right now. Guys in the morning.
Speaker 11: See why, I see why I like my my shows
Speaker 11: on Fridays. They can't drink the beers and then they
Speaker 11: won't have to wait the next day.
Speaker 2: Now, Uncle, I have a very important question to ask you.
Speaker 2: Do we need to do shout outs today of course
Speaker 2: those two shows. What's the time on that, man, it's
Speaker 2: time for shoutouts, shout out o'clock.
Speaker 11: Because you were on my show, your show a little long.
Speaker 2: I did I get Yes? You will you five after juck?
Speaker 11: Did you get this?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 6: And trying to pull a little path to sing right,
Speaker 6: and it's yes. And it's already after I'm a little
Speaker 6: bit on my show, and it's already four after midnight
Speaker 6: where I'm sitting.
Speaker 4: So there you go.
Speaker 6: You've already gone four minutes over your normal time. I've
Speaker 6: gone over the Okay, well, okay, now you can do
Speaker 6: shadow time back.
Speaker 2: Please forgive me for my sins.
Speaker 6: Move on from that.
Speaker 2: Who was the first caller? Who was the first?
Speaker 6: First one? Was Kent.
Speaker 2: Number one?
Speaker 12: Well, I'll take you, but yeah it was jesse Man though,
Speaker 12: But uh, this has been guys. It was a fun night.
Speaker 12: And uh, yeah, I gotta drink the way I gotta
Speaker 12: drink at my age and uh and you guys got
Speaker 12: to do the same at your age. Past ribbon isn't
Speaker 12: bad beer, by the way, there's a lot worse. Milwaukee's
Speaker 12: best Bush is the worst. I don't like bush, bush
Speaker 12: light or any of that. But anyways, Happy New Year, everybody.
Speaker 12: I haven't been around a while, so Happy New Year everybody,
Speaker 12: and you know God and allby and sanity. Right now,
Speaker 12: I just remember keep you know, you get into lub alive.
Speaker 2: Are you glad you're gonna be on my next one?
Speaker 2: Can you gotta be on my next one?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 2: Great to talk to you, man. Take care, be back
Speaker 2: on my next one.
Speaker 4: There, Yep, yep, we'll see you uncle you all right?
Speaker 1: So then we're going to the next caller. Who what
Speaker 1: about Canada Boy? Wasn't here on the line too?
Speaker 6: Well, Canada boy, I didn't think we Canada as a caller,
Speaker 6: so I thought we'd save him.
Speaker 1: Okay, well we'll save him for later, save him for
Speaker 1: the last Who was the next car?
Speaker 2: Jimmy, I guess Jimmy, gimme on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the next one was James. Hold.
Speaker 2: Oh no, Honold, go ahead, Nold boys.
Speaker 13: And I gotta give ten out of ten. And I
Speaker 13: gotta say, all these drinks, you gotta having the bunch
Speaker 13: of gmo slop.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm like, us up kind of drink. That's
Speaker 2: a government how we like?
Speaker 4: Oh I am, I'll be back.
Speaker 1: That's Arnold's reviewed now now Jimmy, Am I right? Jimmy, Jimmy,
Speaker 1: who you shout out today? I got all these people talking, boy,
Speaker 1: I never had him any action.
Speaker 2: Is a good night, Jimmy.
Speaker 4: Dare yep.
Speaker 18: Uh, pickle for the knowing ones.
Speaker 4: Don't pick up.
Speaker 2: Unlicensed cats.
Speaker 4: Nice?
Speaker 2: Wow, I like that shout out, very cryptic. I'm into it.
Speaker 1: Okay, Jimmy, great to talk to you again, man, love that.
Speaker 1: I'll have you next time, I'm sure.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 6: Next to Count Pupper, by the way.
Speaker 2: Count Pupper, okay, next shout outs Pepper, Well, who you got?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Shout outs to the movie True Stories, direct by
Speaker 4: David Byrne of The Talking Head from nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 4: It's free on YouTube, free on YouTube.
Speaker 1: It is Oh that that is a great movie. That
Speaker 1: is a puzzling evidence, right, Pepper, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 10: A good movie.
Speaker 3: Can get starts the conversation with in there True Stories,
Speaker 3: True Stories.
Speaker 4: It's a great movie, Your Stories movie.
Speaker 2: All right, Pepper, thank you for recommend.
Speaker 4: Yeah, take care, guys, take it and uh, who's we
Speaker 4: have got?
Speaker 2: It? Was?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah? You shout out to you?
Speaker 9: Ed Well, I'm first off, I think I should shout
Speaker 9: out to my diminutive tree squirrel friends here. They're in
Speaker 9: full rut right now. That would be in other words,
Speaker 9: mating seasons. And they're just hilarious to watch at this
Speaker 9: time of year and for and I got to agree
Speaker 9: with Arnold man, you guys are drinking a bunch of
Speaker 9: GMO corncer of.
Speaker 14: Slop with those Mountain dewes.
Speaker 9: Man, I just want to encourage you to do better.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Great Show, PBR and Michelobult, those are all
Speaker 3: dm O slop. Well, yeah, I'm not counting them, you know.
Speaker 9: I I I can go down. I can drink a
Speaker 9: Rener beer. That's a local slop beer here, but it's
Speaker 9: brewed in City of Industry down in California now, so
Speaker 9: it's kind of ridiculous that Rainier is the local beer here. Yeah,
Speaker 9: they don't really threw it here.
Speaker 4: Any great show, Great show with Aaron.
Speaker 9: And Canada Boy tonight too.
Speaker 4: I just want to throw that out.
Speaker 2: That was to talk to you except the shine. Okay,
Speaker 2: let's go to Canada Boy and get a shout out.
Speaker 2: We do have to review this live wire. I know
Speaker 2: we got the I got the my is in my head,
Speaker 2: so we're gonna do that. Is that cann be the
Speaker 2: cap of the show, the show, and we'll say that.
Speaker 10: We'll say, then let's get all these people that have
Speaker 10: been talking named Cole Foods and then I get them
Speaker 10: and then he can hang in foods.
Speaker 2: Okay, So no northern man, shout Northern man?
Speaker 4: Who you got?
Speaker 3: Uh well, shout out to Arnold Schwarzenegger. I think that
Speaker 3: might have been maybe his first appearance on the show,
Speaker 3: A hundred percent sure. And also a shout out to
Speaker 3: big Cherld Sanders, who.
Speaker 4: Was in the chat. He said, no, nothing in the business. Again,
Speaker 4: you have to review that.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I don't.
Speaker 6: Don't.
Speaker 4: But he's just in the chat, so don't worry about that.
Speaker 2: Oh I didn't even know he was anyway.
Speaker 4: Shout out.
Speaker 3: Shout out to him, and uh yeah, thanks again for
Speaker 3: having me on the show, The Aaron. I'd love to
Speaker 3: come back and always pleasure Uncle Chuck. Thank you for
Speaker 3: being the broadcast master. You know you're getting banned off
Speaker 3: TikTok and those things. It's just a measure of your
Speaker 3: influence on the people. Keep on trucking.
Speaker 4: We got your back, brother, Thank you, glad somebody does.
Speaker 1: Thank you all right, all right, thanks great to talk
Speaker 1: to you. Great shows. Thank you for being here, man,
Speaker 1: really appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Now, do you have a shout?
Speaker 6: I'm good right now. Actually, okay, I'm just just happy.
Speaker 6: We got a very lively Uncle show and a really
Speaker 6: good age of transitions tonight. So yeah, everybody got their
Speaker 6: money's worth, even though we broadcast for free. So there
Speaker 6: you go.
Speaker 2: For free. You got this for free. Well, yeah, it's
Speaker 2: a free show. I'm cool. How's that?
Speaker 6: No, I don't know. I pay for stuff, but these
Speaker 6: people get the show.
Speaker 2: Anybody can listen to it. They got pay for the
Speaker 2: internet for you. Unless they do that, they're they're in.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my live show. Right. I like to know what.
Speaker 2: Do we want to get in the future. Why don't
Speaker 2: we just put your review on? You've ben yamn him
Speaker 2: buying my view.
Speaker 4: Let's get with our review.
Speaker 2: My review of uh.
Speaker 1: Hard Mountain Dew regular Flavor Mountain Dew is this is
Speaker 1: the best of all of them.
Speaker 2: I'm still not gonna go above a seven. It's a seven,
Speaker 2: but this is probably the best tasting one of.
Speaker 4: All of them.
Speaker 2: It's just a regular Mountain Dew, I have to say.
Speaker 10: So, what do you think of what Mine's an a
Speaker 10: an a It's going up a little further than the
Speaker 10: Orange one.
Speaker 4: Better than live fire.
Speaker 10: Yeah taste like my vier was okay and like ongeuch orange.
Speaker 2: What is orange? I know his m Yeah yeah okay.
Speaker 1: So thank you everybody, and yeah, shout out to Robin
Speaker 1: for being the guests on both shows.
Speaker 2: We had a lot of fun.
Speaker 4: It was good.
Speaker 1: Upper Pepper's recommendation of true stories was really good too.
Speaker 1: And I'll say thank you Count Pepper for being there
Speaker 1: for all of our VHS watch parties.
Speaker 10: Yes, yes he has, yeah, he always, so it's everybody
Speaker 10: listening to it. Of course, this week, I don't I
Speaker 10: don't think we're gonna be doing it, and we ain't
Speaker 10: gonna do them this week because we're going to be
Speaker 10: someone we're not.
Speaker 1: Going to be other Saturdays check out because you know
Speaker 1: we do those live streams of the VHS or the
Speaker 1: old video games.
Speaker 2: So keep that in mind. Uncle Uncle the Podcast on TikTok.
Speaker 1: It's at Uncle Podcast on the Other One's Instagram, x
Speaker 1: kick Twitch YouTube, uncledepodcast dot com five on the Chill
Speaker 1: Radio Mine Friday.
Speaker 2: My my shout still shout who you got for a
Speaker 2: shout out? I'm doing shoutouts still see I'm getting a little.
Speaker 2: You want to shout out, hees, we do. Shout all right,
Speaker 2: we'll shout somebody out.
Speaker 10: Well, shout out to all the people that are out
Speaker 10: of the United States, thank you for listening.
Speaker 2: And what was it?
Speaker 10: And uh oh a shout out two old chuck there
Speaker 10: doing all this harder work than this site kick here
Speaker 10: doing anything sure, and and uh and the shout out
Speaker 10: to oceanize it and uh micho man, uh huh no,
Speaker 10: that's mine, okay, uncle, why can bring us home for
Speaker 10: the week.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 2: Three hundred and sixty or four is in the books.
Speaker 2: Bye bye,