WEBVTT 1 00:00:09.480 --> 00:00:11.119 It is so goddamn hot here. 2 00:00:12.759 --> 00:00:13.560 We're in a bubble. 3 00:00:15.039 --> 00:00:15.880 Is that the start? 4 00:00:16.480 --> 00:00:18.359 That the start? I guess we could start. I don't 5 00:00:18.359 --> 00:00:20.960 want to start with the weather, that's the start. I don't 6 00:00:20.920 --> 00:00:23.280 want to start with me whining too late about the weather. 7 00:00:23.399 --> 00:00:26.960 Oh you're always whining, always whining. Not more interesting things 8 00:00:26.960 --> 00:00:30.519 than the weather, though. But here we are, it's across. 9 00:00:30.559 --> 00:00:34.320 There is a sultry day here. 10 00:00:34.880 --> 00:00:38.960 Same as the weather outside. About one hundred and ten, 11 00:00:39.399 --> 00:00:41.640 and we are back at it with another episode. 12 00:00:42.039 --> 00:00:45.560 That's Mike, Is this how I talk? Is that how 13 00:00:45.600 --> 00:00:46.520 I sound to other people? 14 00:00:46.520 --> 00:00:47.960 I thought it was actually you? Yeah? 15 00:00:48.079 --> 00:00:48.240 Oh? 16 00:00:48.520 --> 00:00:52.799 Here here with Dan, Hello, hi, and I'm Mary here 17 00:00:52.799 --> 00:00:56.119 as always, with another episode of fire Escape cast, giving 18 00:00:56.159 --> 00:00:59.679 you all of your hot gaming takes, just like the weather. 19 00:01:01.719 --> 00:01:01.920 That. 20 00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:03.679 Do we do hot gaming? I don't think we do 21 00:01:03.719 --> 00:01:04.519 hot gaming takes? 22 00:01:04.640 --> 00:01:05.239 Do hot games? 23 00:01:05.239 --> 00:01:05.719 I think so? 24 00:01:06.040 --> 00:01:06.400 Do we? 25 00:01:07.040 --> 00:01:07.239 Yeah? 26 00:01:07.480 --> 00:01:10.000 My my opinion's always straight down the middle. I never Yeah. 27 00:01:10.040 --> 00:01:11.680 We just look at the Metacritic and we decide how 28 00:01:11.680 --> 00:01:12.079 we feel. 29 00:01:12.359 --> 00:01:15.840 Yeah, it's exactly is good. 30 00:01:16.400 --> 00:01:17.400 Yes, it is well. 31 00:01:17.719 --> 00:01:19.159 That two is fine. 32 00:01:19.719 --> 00:01:21.680 I think it's good. Oh shit, I'm gonna get fired 33 00:01:21.719 --> 00:01:22.480 from fire Escape. 34 00:01:23.319 --> 00:01:26.000 Damn. Outside the norm we don't do. Yeah, devices, I 35 00:01:26.560 --> 00:01:26.959 knew a. 36 00:01:26.920 --> 00:01:29.640 Guy back in the day. I won't name anyone, Mike, 37 00:01:29.680 --> 00:01:32.439 you'll probably know who would be like reviewing a game, 38 00:01:32.519 --> 00:01:34.920 and during the review period he'd be like, Oh, this 39 00:01:35.040 --> 00:01:36.799 sucks so bad. This game sucks so bad. You can 40 00:01:36.840 --> 00:01:38.560 come check this out. Come look how bad this game is. 41 00:01:38.599 --> 00:01:40.159 Come look how bad this game is. And then he 42 00:01:40.200 --> 00:01:42.280 would hear from other like reviewers and stuff that everyone 43 00:01:42.319 --> 00:01:44.400 was like liking it, and the scorer would go for 44 00:01:44.439 --> 00:01:46.079 like the draft would go from like a six out 45 00:01:46.079 --> 00:01:48.000 of ten to like nine point five out of ten. 46 00:01:48.120 --> 00:01:49.599 It turns out everyone likes it. I don't want to, 47 00:01:49.920 --> 00:01:51.239 you know, make any waves here. 48 00:01:51.519 --> 00:01:54.439 I honestly, there's like two people I could think of. 49 00:01:54.799 --> 00:01:55.959 You're right about one of them. 50 00:01:56.000 --> 00:02:01.159 I'm sure, Ah, god, the uh the Middle East? Right now? No, 51 00:02:01.280 --> 00:02:04.879 I'm just joking where you're talking about device and takes. 52 00:02:05.680 --> 00:02:07.560 Yeah, we got a lot of days before this goes up. 53 00:02:07.599 --> 00:02:09.400 Who knows what the situation is then, but. 54 00:02:09.400 --> 00:02:13.919 Yeah, yeah, there's I at a certain point I realized 55 00:02:13.919 --> 00:02:15.520 and this is not I'm not trying to like blow 56 00:02:15.520 --> 00:02:18.080 smoke up my own ass, because I also I would 57 00:02:18.280 --> 00:02:21.400 initially when I was first reviewing games. I would have, 58 00:02:21.960 --> 00:02:23.960 you know, thoughts on the game as I'm playing it, 59 00:02:24.000 --> 00:02:26.439 and then talk to other people. And when those situations 60 00:02:26.439 --> 00:02:27.960 where I'm like, what the fuck are we playing the 61 00:02:27.960 --> 00:02:31.560 same game? Yeah, I would definitely feel like, am I dumb? 62 00:02:31.680 --> 00:02:33.520 Do I have bad taste in games? I'm new to 63 00:02:33.560 --> 00:02:36.439 all this, But like later on, like especially in my 64 00:02:36.479 --> 00:02:38.280 Polygon tenure, when I really didn't give a fuck with 65 00:02:38.319 --> 00:02:41.120 other well, I gave a fuck what other reviewers thought, 66 00:02:41.280 --> 00:02:43.639 but not in so far as it influenced my opinion. 67 00:02:44.080 --> 00:02:47.039 I'd barely talk to people until reviews went up. 68 00:02:47.680 --> 00:02:50.719 There are times, there are special games where in the 69 00:02:50.759 --> 00:02:52.719 pre release period, you know, people I haven't talked to 70 00:02:52.800 --> 00:02:54.439 in a while will reach out and text me the 71 00:02:54.439 --> 00:02:55.879 holy shit are you playing? This is one of the 72 00:02:55.919 --> 00:02:58.360 best games ever. It happened with Brett the Wild, happened 73 00:02:58.400 --> 00:03:00.159 with elden Ring, and it happened with blue Print, and 74 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:03.120 most recently of just people being like, you're playing is right? 75 00:03:03.120 --> 00:03:04.080 We have to talk about it? 76 00:03:04.199 --> 00:03:07.879 Yeah? Yeah, I remember. There was a point and I 77 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:09.919 won't even name the It might have been game Spot, 78 00:03:09.960 --> 00:03:11.520 it might have been Polygon, but there was a game 79 00:03:12.199 --> 00:03:19.719 that highly anticipated first party and during the review period, 80 00:03:20.360 --> 00:03:24.759 like several higher ranking members of the staff were like, 81 00:03:25.159 --> 00:03:26.759 we need to have stories ready to go, Like how 82 00:03:26.759 --> 00:03:28.719 did this even make it to market in this state? 83 00:03:28.840 --> 00:03:32.520 Like who made? Who made these design decisions? And reviews 84 00:03:32.520 --> 00:03:35.599 start hitting and everybody's loving it, and like these people 85 00:03:35.680 --> 00:03:38.520 like just stopped, like just at like once the reviews 86 00:03:38.520 --> 00:03:41.159 were up, they they just stopped bringing those ideas to 87 00:03:41.199 --> 00:03:43.520 the table, Like I think they realized they might have 88 00:03:43.560 --> 00:03:45.800 been like going too hard into the negative direction. 89 00:03:45.960 --> 00:03:48.479 Oh sure, which funny to me, as long as you 90 00:03:48.479 --> 00:03:49.879 can back it up, Like I don't know, I think 91 00:03:49.879 --> 00:03:52.280 about like I got some crap for my Mario Party 92 00:03:52.400 --> 00:03:55.639 Jamboree review was like definitely on the very very low 93 00:03:55.759 --> 00:03:58.400 end of what people were saying. And I look back 94 00:03:58.400 --> 00:04:00.039 in my review that was for a game Spot. I 95 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:02.240 look at that now, I know the series, I know 96 00:04:02.280 --> 00:04:04.080 what I'm talking about, and my points are all very 97 00:04:04.120 --> 00:04:06.199 salient and this is a yeah, I have no problem 98 00:04:06.199 --> 00:04:06.400 with that. 99 00:04:06.639 --> 00:04:10.039 So yeah, I remember the funny one. For me. The 100 00:04:10.039 --> 00:04:11.960 first time I really got heat for a review, I 101 00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:17.160 did Gears Ultimate Edition for Xbox One or Series X 102 00:04:17.279 --> 00:04:21.560 Xbox one, the remaster of the original Gears game, and 103 00:04:21.800 --> 00:04:23.680 Jeff Gersmen back in the day when the game first 104 00:04:23.759 --> 00:04:25.759 came out for game Spot had given it a nine 105 00:04:25.839 --> 00:04:29.800 out of ten. I gave the remaster it might have 106 00:04:29.839 --> 00:04:31.160 been a six, it might have been a seven out 107 00:04:31.160 --> 00:04:34.759 of ten. And people were like, so the remaster of 108 00:04:34.800 --> 00:04:37.680 a game gets how did it get like drop three 109 00:04:37.800 --> 00:04:41.920 points since it originally released, like from the same outlet, 110 00:04:42.079 --> 00:04:42.519 and then. 111 00:04:42.439 --> 00:04:45.839 The dumbest sh first like six reasons that's a dumb idea. 112 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:48.800 So I was like, oh, we're different people, A and B. Games, 113 00:04:50.040 --> 00:04:53.319 like more than any other medium, tend to age poorly, 114 00:04:53.759 --> 00:04:55.959 and we're how many years after was this like eleven 115 00:04:56.000 --> 00:04:59.519 years after the game came out? And then the funniest 116 00:04:59.519 --> 00:05:03.160 part was when Gersman himself for Giant Bomb put up 117 00:05:03.199 --> 00:05:05.000 a review and it was also like six or seven 118 00:05:05.040 --> 00:05:05.439 out of ten. 119 00:05:05.560 --> 00:05:07.519 It was like a two out of five or something 120 00:05:07.879 --> 00:05:09.319 like a person. 121 00:05:09.120 --> 00:05:11.279 Who loved it back then. I also loved it back then. 122 00:05:11.319 --> 00:05:12.680 I still liked the game quite a bit. 123 00:05:12.879 --> 00:05:15.839 Well so loud because he's Jeff Gersmith, that's right. 124 00:05:16.000 --> 00:05:17.680 This is why Mike got fired from GameSpot. 125 00:05:17.800 --> 00:05:21.160 So yeah, I gave the remaster way too low a score, 126 00:05:21.240 --> 00:05:22.759 and yeah. 127 00:05:22.360 --> 00:05:25.399 I find it interesting as someone who didn't review. I 128 00:05:25.439 --> 00:05:27.959 reviewed a couple games during my time, but that's not 129 00:05:28.000 --> 00:05:30.199 what I That wasn't my job. My job was to 130 00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:33.519 edit your guys's words into a video review. 131 00:05:33.560 --> 00:05:35.439 That was my job, right, And so a lot of 132 00:05:35.480 --> 00:05:36.000 times I. 133 00:05:35.920 --> 00:05:41.240 Would be looking up visuals that helped support your claims 134 00:05:41.360 --> 00:05:44.920 right that something was working or something was missing the mark. 135 00:05:44.920 --> 00:05:48.680 And it was always really interesting to me when I 136 00:05:48.879 --> 00:05:51.279 was like searching through the footage to make sure that 137 00:05:51.319 --> 00:05:54.759 I could support your points, because when you're especially if 138 00:05:54.800 --> 00:05:58.720 you're saying something negative, if the video doesn't back up 139 00:05:58.759 --> 00:06:02.040 what you're saying properly, it can come back to haunt you, 140 00:06:02.160 --> 00:06:04.000 or the comments will be like that's not even like 141 00:06:04.040 --> 00:06:07.279 a good uh, that's not like a really good example 142 00:06:07.360 --> 00:06:08.800 of it, Like I don't agree with them. And so 143 00:06:08.800 --> 00:06:10.879 there was a lot of pressure on video editors as 144 00:06:10.920 --> 00:06:13.240 well to make sure that you felt like you were 145 00:06:13.240 --> 00:06:18.040 getting the proper review footage that you needed to back 146 00:06:18.120 --> 00:06:20.800 up your points saliently and make you feel really good. 147 00:06:20.839 --> 00:06:24.040 I think I did a Final Fantasy, a very unpopular 148 00:06:24.079 --> 00:06:26.279 Final Fantasy game. It was the one that like you 149 00:06:26.360 --> 00:06:28.399 had to do it in like a certain amount of 150 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:30.680 time to beat it. A lot of people didn't like, 151 00:06:30.759 --> 00:06:34.600 it doesn't matter which one it was, I'm gonna say twelve. Anyway, 152 00:06:34.759 --> 00:06:38.519 it wasn't very popular, and I was like scouring through 153 00:06:38.560 --> 00:06:41.519 this footage to make sure that every time Chris Waters 154 00:06:41.639 --> 00:06:45.560 said this game just kept going like it just wouldn't stop, 155 00:06:45.920 --> 00:06:48.759 that I had these like long stretches of dialogue to 156 00:06:48.759 --> 00:06:51.920 make it seem basically like as boring as he felt 157 00:06:51.920 --> 00:06:53.879 when he played it. And that was a joy to 158 00:06:53.959 --> 00:06:56.040 me to make sure, but a lot of pressure to 159 00:06:56.120 --> 00:06:58.120 make sure that you guys always felt like you were 160 00:06:58.160 --> 00:07:03.120 getting the review quality you wanted in your videos. 161 00:07:03.519 --> 00:07:05.920 Yeah, that's something that really helped with like the era 162 00:07:06.079 --> 00:07:08.639 of consoles having the share button and things like that, 163 00:07:08.680 --> 00:07:10.920 because then it's like something fucked up canna happen, like 164 00:07:10.920 --> 00:07:13.000 a bug or something, and you can be like, okay, 165 00:07:13.079 --> 00:07:14.800 let me capture the last three minutes of that, and 166 00:07:14.839 --> 00:07:16.360 then you know, you can use that whether it's a 167 00:07:16.360 --> 00:07:18.439 social post or in part of a video review or 168 00:07:18.480 --> 00:07:20.399 something like see this is the shit I'm talking about. 169 00:07:21.120 --> 00:07:25.120 Yeah, and then there's also to the counterpoint when you 170 00:07:25.399 --> 00:07:27.519 people I think are savvy enough now and it's like 171 00:07:28.240 --> 00:07:31.079 video reviews are so ubiquitous that people can see bullshit 172 00:07:31.160 --> 00:07:34.639 on YouTube, Like when someone's not doing what Mary is 173 00:07:34.639 --> 00:07:36.920 and doing their due diligence, it's easy to see when 174 00:07:37.920 --> 00:07:40.480 they might have I don't want to say they fabricated 175 00:07:40.879 --> 00:07:42.839 and the footage like edit it. I just say, like 176 00:07:43.000 --> 00:07:45.480 sort of acted in the game in a way to 177 00:07:45.600 --> 00:07:49.839 support the script, almost having edited not as many as Mary, 178 00:07:49.879 --> 00:07:51.560 but my own fair share of video reviews, and like 179 00:07:52.240 --> 00:07:55.000 it feels a bit like they're kind of using the 180 00:07:55.000 --> 00:07:58.079 gameplay to support the script in a way that I 181 00:07:58.160 --> 00:08:01.839 don't actually think is indicative of the game. If it 182 00:08:01.879 --> 00:08:04.800 comes to mind, I just know I see it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 183 00:08:04.959 --> 00:08:07.680 I liked our process. It could definitely get At first, 184 00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:09.560 it was a bit of a strain on reviewers because 185 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:12.519 we were already you know, like just trying to get 186 00:08:12.519 --> 00:08:14.600 through a game and have our thoughts down for that 187 00:08:14.720 --> 00:08:18.399 editorial piece. But then I think GameSpot there were some 188 00:08:18.439 --> 00:08:21.000 growing pains and getting everybody on board with capturing and 189 00:08:21.040 --> 00:08:23.720 like not just learning the tools, which I think are 190 00:08:23.839 --> 00:08:29.439 incredibly necessary, but just having those extra muscle memory down 191 00:08:29.480 --> 00:08:32.080 path while you're reviewing a game, which again I think 192 00:08:32.200 --> 00:08:34.120 was very useful in the long run. But I remember 193 00:08:34.240 --> 00:08:36.159 at the at first it was like this is all. 194 00:08:36.399 --> 00:08:38.480 This is all inside baseball. I don't know how much people care. 195 00:08:38.519 --> 00:08:39.879 I just remember, like you know, going on. 196 00:08:39.960 --> 00:08:40.960 I think it's fascinating. 197 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:44.960 I think it's fascinating because people so quickly say like, oh, yeah, 198 00:08:44.960 --> 00:08:46.720 you guys like worked there, you must have reviewed games. 199 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:48.720 But they had a long drawn out process because we 200 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:51.799 had a lot of integrity as our sites like you can't. 201 00:08:52.279 --> 00:08:54.000 We had a lot of systems, We had a lot 202 00:08:54.039 --> 00:08:57.440 of checkups and follow throughs. I mean, it's amazing how 203 00:08:57.440 --> 00:09:00.960 many review like edits a review, a game review went 204 00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:03.519 through before it actually was shipped. And the same thing 205 00:09:03.519 --> 00:09:05.559 with the video review. It took a long time to 206 00:09:05.600 --> 00:09:06.399 get those things out. 207 00:09:06.639 --> 00:09:08.879 You know who's great at the video review stuff is 208 00:09:08.960 --> 00:09:12.039 or video like like text to video stuff is one 209 00:09:12.200 --> 00:09:14.879 judge Jake Decker, because you know, there were a few 210 00:09:14.879 --> 00:09:16.039 times I got to work with him on that type 211 00:09:16.039 --> 00:09:17.559 stuff when I would write something for game Spot and 212 00:09:17.600 --> 00:09:19.320 I like went to that Metal Gear Solid three trip 213 00:09:19.600 --> 00:09:20.960 and I told Jake, I was like, hey, I know 214 00:09:20.960 --> 00:09:22.200 you guys want to get a video out of this, 215 00:09:22.240 --> 00:09:24.080 but like here's like they didn't give a lot of 216 00:09:24.120 --> 00:09:27.159 b roll. Here is like you're a trailer and here 217 00:09:27.360 --> 00:09:30.480 is like eight screenshots and my thing, if I read 218 00:09:30.480 --> 00:09:31.960 it out is going to be like nine minutes long. 219 00:09:32.039 --> 00:09:34.039 He's like, nah, I got it, and you taught YouTube. 220 00:09:34.039 --> 00:09:35.720 Now if you look up like the meddal gear solid 221 00:09:35.720 --> 00:09:38.039 three delta thing that I narrate, like, Jake cut that 222 00:09:38.080 --> 00:09:40.360 all together and he made it work with like nothing 223 00:09:40.399 --> 00:09:42.919 to work with. So it's definitely a skill that a 224 00:09:42.960 --> 00:09:44.000 few people are very good at. 225 00:09:44.279 --> 00:09:49.320 He's okay, fine, Jake's very good. I think there's there 226 00:09:49.399 --> 00:09:53.480 is an art to making sure you feel supported. The 227 00:09:53.639 --> 00:09:58.080 very few games that I reviewed, I reviewed Stardu Valley. 228 00:09:59.000 --> 00:10:01.320 I think I cut my own video and I was 229 00:10:01.320 --> 00:10:03.600 like really excited about that, and it was really fun 230 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:06.879 to have like full control outside of like how much 231 00:10:06.919 --> 00:10:08.519 of my words were obviously. 232 00:10:09.639 --> 00:10:11.399 Edited by our editor. 233 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:13.759 In chief at the time, Peter Brown, or at least 234 00:10:13.840 --> 00:10:17.879 Reviews editor, who like was meticulous with the way you 235 00:10:17.919 --> 00:10:20.320 could say something, and I'm a dingus. Like the way 236 00:10:20.360 --> 00:10:22.960 I would say something was often like, man, it's really 237 00:10:23.000 --> 00:10:24.840 cool that you could just walk around town and like 238 00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:27.679 talk to anyone you know, including like the guy who 239 00:10:27.720 --> 00:10:30.399 works at the bar, the person who's like a homeless 240 00:10:30.399 --> 00:10:33.519 like down the street, and he like everything out. 241 00:10:33.600 --> 00:10:39.679 Try try. Social fabric is fragile in Starger Valley. 242 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:42.919 And you are just so thoughtful. 243 00:10:42.679 --> 00:10:47.759 And you must be the spider swallowing up the trapped flies. 244 00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:52.080 It's about the American dream writ large. 245 00:10:52.159 --> 00:10:54.159 I was gonna say, I don't know why I'm making 246 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:55.919 like Pete never did stuff like that. 247 00:10:56.080 --> 00:10:58.360 No, he Pete was awesome. 248 00:10:58.360 --> 00:11:00.240 But I think you are right in this sense that 249 00:11:00.279 --> 00:11:02.039 like I would write a bunch of drivel and he 250 00:11:02.080 --> 00:11:04.159 would read, he would help me formulate it in a 251 00:11:04.200 --> 00:11:06.159 way that sounds made me sound really smart. 252 00:11:06.159 --> 00:11:07.720 So when you read that review. 253 00:11:08.519 --> 00:11:12.200 That's not If you compare my Stardoo Valley review to 254 00:11:12.320 --> 00:11:15.159 my top five or ten games that I'm allowed to 255 00:11:15.159 --> 00:11:18.360 write for Giant Bomb every year, there is a stark 256 00:11:18.519 --> 00:11:21.960 contrast with what I was allowed to say in my 257 00:11:22.039 --> 00:11:25.159 Stardo Valley review, which is heavily edited and curated and 258 00:11:25.159 --> 00:11:28.320 make sure that it fits the mark, whereas my top 259 00:11:28.360 --> 00:11:30.440 ten literally you guys didn't edit anything. 260 00:11:30.480 --> 00:11:31.799 There's typos in that shit. 261 00:11:32.279 --> 00:11:35.360 I'm just like, this game is so fucking rad with 262 00:11:35.399 --> 00:11:37.840 like multiple a's, and you allow me to have it in. 263 00:11:37.759 --> 00:11:40.720 My top ten Giant Bomb games of the year. 264 00:11:40.759 --> 00:11:42.639 It's that's going to change now that I own the company. 265 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:47.399 It's not you let me be stupider, all of you worse. 266 00:11:47.679 --> 00:11:48.720 No, absolutely not. 267 00:11:49.600 --> 00:11:52.799 Dan's gonna come down fucking iron fist on your typo 268 00:11:52.919 --> 00:11:54.159 ridden insanity. 269 00:11:54.799 --> 00:11:57.720 The social fabric of our society in twenty twenty five 270 00:11:57.960 --> 00:12:01.399 only allows us to say so many games that can 271 00:12:01.559 --> 00:12:04.639 really truly articulate what it is to be mad. 272 00:12:05.320 --> 00:12:08.039 Death Stranding two is an encapsulation of the post truth 273 00:12:08.080 --> 00:12:10.840 era in ways few games and few creators have ever 274 00:12:10.879 --> 00:12:14.080 been able to suggest. I am but I am but 275 00:12:14.519 --> 00:12:18.720 a passenger looking through the foggy window at the passing 276 00:12:18.759 --> 00:12:22.960 countryside with the Doppler effect of the screams of dead 277 00:12:23.000 --> 00:12:24.080 American ghosts. 278 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:25.399 He's still got it. 279 00:12:25.759 --> 00:12:28.039 I know why it did not make my top five. 280 00:12:28.960 --> 00:12:30.440 That's why I hate this game. 281 00:12:33.600 --> 00:12:35.559 Yeah, when I reviewed de Stranding the first one, I 282 00:12:35.600 --> 00:12:37.200 just said it sucks ship, but. 283 00:12:38.720 --> 00:12:39.600 I really did not like it. 284 00:12:39.840 --> 00:12:42.279 Or for the first one, I didn't review it. We 285 00:12:42.279 --> 00:12:46.240 were just doing uh. I just talked on a podcast 286 00:12:46.279 --> 00:12:46.559 about it. 287 00:12:46.639 --> 00:12:51.639 Yeah, we met fucking Kojima himself at a Death Stranding 288 00:12:51.639 --> 00:12:54.320 event and both of us just immediately launched into talking 289 00:12:54.320 --> 00:12:55.759 about how much we liked Snake Eater. 290 00:12:57.679 --> 00:13:00.320 What a nice way to avoid the day. 291 00:13:00.799 --> 00:13:02.519 But now I like it, so now I can suck 292 00:13:02.600 --> 00:13:02.960 up to them. 293 00:13:03.000 --> 00:13:07.279 Yeah, we'll get we'll get to training to uh. Of 294 00:13:07.279 --> 00:13:09.200 course during the game section, we've been talking a lot 295 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:13.120 about games. But Mary, I'm curious how uh you're gallivanting 296 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:16.000 through France one, thanks for asking. 297 00:13:16.080 --> 00:13:19.679 This is my second time in France ever for work. 298 00:13:19.960 --> 00:13:22.759 This was now the first time I went was for 299 00:13:22.840 --> 00:13:25.759 Twitch con Paris. Obviously in Paris. This time I went 300 00:13:25.919 --> 00:13:32.240 to can which is south France. I've never been south 301 00:13:32.440 --> 00:13:34.320 of Is it called south of France. 302 00:13:34.159 --> 00:13:35.200 In the south of France? 303 00:13:35.279 --> 00:13:38.200 Yes, Paris, that's the one I know. Paris is north 304 00:13:38.360 --> 00:13:40.320 Ocean and. 305 00:13:40.320 --> 00:13:41.679 It's crazy because no, it's not. 306 00:13:41.759 --> 00:13:46.519 It's completely landlocked and like, uh not not France Paris. 307 00:13:46.919 --> 00:13:51.639 Uh no, I know what you mean, Paris in general. 308 00:13:51.720 --> 00:13:54.200 Thank you, because I don't know that much about Europe. 309 00:13:54.200 --> 00:13:56.120 I'm like still learning as I'm like figuring this out. 310 00:13:56.240 --> 00:13:58.960 All the older cities around rivers, not all of them, 311 00:13:59.000 --> 00:14:02.840 but there are many cities. Or Minneapolis is too, but. 312 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:05.360 France isn't that big. It's like, you know, they're kind 313 00:14:05.399 --> 00:14:07.320 of like states, and. 314 00:14:08.919 --> 00:14:12.960 The state is France the most like well in size, 315 00:14:13.399 --> 00:14:15.120 just overall all categories. 316 00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:17.919 It takes about seven hours to get through it. So 317 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:21.360 I like, I don't know, like all of New. 318 00:14:21.360 --> 00:14:23.840 York takes about Okay, So France is just like New York. 319 00:14:23.879 --> 00:14:27.360 You're saying, yeah, same okay, same people, same wine. 320 00:14:27.600 --> 00:14:27.879 Okay. 321 00:14:28.559 --> 00:14:32.799 Anyway, So I went to the French Riviera into can 322 00:14:33.039 --> 00:14:36.840 for a festival called can Leon and I. 323 00:14:36.759 --> 00:14:38.960 Worked at booth. So this is like such a surreal 324 00:14:39.279 --> 00:14:39.960 concept to me. 325 00:14:40.200 --> 00:14:44.559 But a lot of in France and there, Yeah, I 326 00:14:44.639 --> 00:14:46.799 felt like one Honestly, it was like ninety five degrees. 327 00:14:46.840 --> 00:14:47.480 I was wearing like. 328 00:14:47.480 --> 00:14:50.080 The smallest clothes I was allowed to professionally get away 329 00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:51.519 with because it's so fucking hot. 330 00:14:52.840 --> 00:14:55.120 It was like a real like heavy heat too. 331 00:14:55.039 --> 00:14:57.840 Just because you're like on the you know, ocean side. Anyway, 332 00:14:59.080 --> 00:15:01.200 it was just human and sticky. It was it was 333 00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:05.120 rough anyway. A lot of business people go to uh 334 00:15:05.200 --> 00:15:07.440 it's like mostly like ad stuff and you'd see like 335 00:15:07.559 --> 00:15:10.279 lots of other businesses. 336 00:15:10.679 --> 00:15:13.759 So a peloton was there, My peloton instructors were instagramming 337 00:15:13.759 --> 00:15:15.120 from pairs if it's a. 338 00:15:15.080 --> 00:15:21.240 Big business, right, like Meadow was there? Uh what Instagram 339 00:15:21.360 --> 00:15:24.679 was there? Well, I guess that's the same company. 340 00:15:25.279 --> 00:15:27.720 It sounds almost like a south By Southwest kind of thing, 341 00:15:27.759 --> 00:15:28.639 the way that's evolved. 342 00:15:29.120 --> 00:15:31.759 Yeah, Pinterest was there, and so Amazon was. 343 00:15:31.679 --> 00:15:35.879 There, and they have booths for all of Amazon's companies, 344 00:15:35.919 --> 00:15:37.039 which is a part of Amazon. 345 00:15:37.080 --> 00:15:38.840 So I actually worked the booth. 346 00:15:39.919 --> 00:15:45.039 My job, very booth babe ish honestly, was to explain 347 00:15:45.120 --> 00:15:47.279 what twitches to a lot of people who still don't 348 00:15:47.279 --> 00:15:48.000 know what twitches. 349 00:15:49.039 --> 00:15:51.159 And then we had them do. 350 00:15:51.480 --> 00:15:55.559 A personality quiz which we connected to a keychain that 351 00:15:55.679 --> 00:15:57.679 was of emotes, and then we would give them these 352 00:15:57.759 --> 00:16:01.559 key chains and it was extremely popular. We had like 353 00:16:01.679 --> 00:16:06.840 lines down around other not as good booths to get 354 00:16:06.840 --> 00:16:09.720 our cool keychains. But what I found interesting was so 355 00:16:09.919 --> 00:16:12.519 many people I would say, hey, do you know anything 356 00:16:12.559 --> 00:16:15.519 about Twitch and they would say to me, like verbatim, no, 357 00:16:15.600 --> 00:16:15.879 but my. 358 00:16:15.960 --> 00:16:16.759 Kids are on it. 359 00:16:16.960 --> 00:16:18.960 And I was like, okay, well let me explain to 360 00:16:18.960 --> 00:16:21.840 you what your kids are watching, and then I'm gonna 361 00:16:21.840 --> 00:16:24.440 give you a keychain that you will undoubtedly give your 362 00:16:24.480 --> 00:16:25.320 children like these. 363 00:16:25.480 --> 00:16:27.799 And they probably about it. Yeah, they were. 364 00:16:28.000 --> 00:16:31.000 They were doing the personality quiz specifically with their children 365 00:16:31.000 --> 00:16:31.399 in mind. 366 00:16:31.480 --> 00:16:33.639 They could get the keychain they thought their kids would want. 367 00:16:33.759 --> 00:16:37.279 So it was like all like swag for kids, which 368 00:16:37.600 --> 00:16:41.159 I found kind of fascinating. But it was like my 369 00:16:42.000 --> 00:16:44.399 understanding of this process was just like making good with 370 00:16:44.399 --> 00:16:46.679 people explaining WHI which wasn't and keeping it in their 371 00:16:46.679 --> 00:16:49.240 heads because there's a lot of ad deals going on. 372 00:16:49.279 --> 00:16:51.440 I guess at this place where people are buying ad 373 00:16:51.480 --> 00:16:53.440 space and and you know, making money. 374 00:16:53.519 --> 00:16:54.960 So that's kind of like was my role. 375 00:16:55.320 --> 00:16:58.200 But the airbnb I was at didn't have anything to 376 00:16:58.200 --> 00:16:59.879 have soap, it didn't have lotion, and so I went 377 00:16:59.879 --> 00:17:01.360 to store to buy all that stuff. 378 00:17:01.679 --> 00:17:02.840 I don't speak a. 379 00:17:02.759 --> 00:17:06.000 Lick of French nothing, so I just bought soap that 380 00:17:06.039 --> 00:17:09.400 looked like Dove soap, and I bought lotion that was 381 00:17:09.440 --> 00:17:11.359 like in a brown bottle, and it looked fine to me, 382 00:17:11.799 --> 00:17:15.319 and I was putting it on every day. And three 383 00:17:15.400 --> 00:17:18.920 days into the event, everyone was like, Mary, you look. 384 00:17:19.000 --> 00:17:24.480 So tan, and this French sun like. 385 00:17:26.400 --> 00:17:27.039 The sun. 386 00:17:28.119 --> 00:17:29.319 It must be the French sun. 387 00:17:29.720 --> 00:17:31.680 It's not a different planet in Star Wars. 388 00:17:32.200 --> 00:17:34.039 And then when I was like, I didn't understand it, 389 00:17:34.039 --> 00:17:34.920 but I looked amazing. 390 00:17:34.960 --> 00:17:35.680 I was so tan. 391 00:17:35.920 --> 00:17:38.359 And then I was like shaking people's hands and I 392 00:17:38.440 --> 00:17:41.799 realized the webbing of my fingers was like black, and 393 00:17:41.839 --> 00:17:45.359 I was like, that is so odd that my hands 394 00:17:45.359 --> 00:17:50.279 are like a different color, like they're almost like severely dark. 395 00:17:50.480 --> 00:17:52.680 I was like, maybe you're something wrong with my skin 396 00:17:52.799 --> 00:17:55.920 or I'm eating bad food or something. And so finally 397 00:17:56.359 --> 00:17:58.640 my roommate speaks French and I just show to the 398 00:17:58.640 --> 00:18:01.480 bottle and I said, lotion is this and she was like, oh, 399 00:18:01.480 --> 00:18:04.240 this is self tanner lotion. You've been self tanning every 400 00:18:04.359 --> 00:18:07.599 day in France for the past four days and that's 401 00:18:07.640 --> 00:18:08.799 why I looked so dark. 402 00:18:09.519 --> 00:18:10.920 How long does that take to like do you take 403 00:18:10.920 --> 00:18:12.599 a shower and that's gone or how long does that 404 00:18:12.640 --> 00:18:13.160 stick around? 405 00:18:13.440 --> 00:18:15.279 I thought that it would be gone in a shower, 406 00:18:15.319 --> 00:18:17.960 but I was very like, I mean I've been showering 407 00:18:17.960 --> 00:18:19.200 and look at the webs. 408 00:18:18.839 --> 00:18:22.519 Of mynn but yeah, that was way darker there. 409 00:18:22.559 --> 00:18:25.400 Actually, yeah, so dark you guys like that, that's what 410 00:18:25.440 --> 00:18:26.480 your whole body looked like. 411 00:18:27.359 --> 00:18:28.599 It was incredible. 412 00:18:28.720 --> 00:18:32.279 I was very dark in most of the photos that 413 00:18:32.319 --> 00:18:33.920 I took, and I was like, oh my god, I 414 00:18:34.000 --> 00:18:37.720 look so tann from but I was literally never in 415 00:18:37.759 --> 00:18:38.920 the sun never. 416 00:18:39.240 --> 00:18:42.160 So I'm an idiot and I bought self tanning lotion. 417 00:18:43.839 --> 00:18:47.920 It happens, I uh in France. Amanda was just finishing 418 00:18:47.920 --> 00:18:49.960 getting ready, so I popped down in saw Mir to 419 00:18:50.079 --> 00:18:56.640 a grocery store to get like sunscreen, et cetera. I 420 00:18:56.960 --> 00:18:59.160 know the general words for some, but I ended up 421 00:18:59.200 --> 00:19:03.680 getting like instead of sun block, I got like the 422 00:19:03.720 --> 00:19:07.440 sun accentuating like oil. Oh no, I mean well, I 423 00:19:07.519 --> 00:19:09.880 mean once I applied it, I knew exactly I got 424 00:19:09.920 --> 00:19:12.400 the wrong thing. I didn't do like several days of it, 425 00:19:12.440 --> 00:19:15.480 but like I knew right away the sun. Yeah, they 426 00:19:15.519 --> 00:19:18.000 have a really good one. Yeah, they have a better one. 427 00:19:18.400 --> 00:19:23.440 And rank Europeans sons Mary, Oh you mean. 428 00:19:23.359 --> 00:19:28.759 The different countries, yeah, Spain, Italy. 429 00:19:28.920 --> 00:19:35.240 Italy's third, Yes, whoa, I thought we wouldn't have hot takes. 430 00:19:35.319 --> 00:19:36.759 And then I'm gonna go all the way down to 431 00:19:36.799 --> 00:19:40.039 the bottom. London very fair. 432 00:19:40.119 --> 00:19:42.799 Yeah yeah rarely yeah yeah, oh. 433 00:19:42.680 --> 00:19:46.160 You rarely see that one. Yeah that's that's that's all. 434 00:19:46.200 --> 00:19:47.880 That's only on like the cool that's only on the 435 00:19:47.920 --> 00:19:49.400 paste list. We laughed. 436 00:19:49.519 --> 00:19:53.039 But as you can clearly see, some places have better sun. 437 00:19:53.440 --> 00:19:56.559 Yeah. I actually came back with some of the pan 438 00:19:56.680 --> 00:19:58.400 I was. We were in Ireland for ten days. It 439 00:19:58.519 --> 00:20:00.839 poured the first day and then we got the most gorgeous, 440 00:20:00.839 --> 00:20:04.559 like seventy three and sonny for most of the trip, 441 00:20:04.680 --> 00:20:06.200 and I came back with like, at least my face 442 00:20:06.240 --> 00:20:09.359 got color and you can ask if what you can, 443 00:20:09.480 --> 00:20:11.440 I'm not lying. It was sunny. We got a photo 444 00:20:11.519 --> 00:20:15.920 at a pub called The Swan. John Lynch is the 445 00:20:15.960 --> 00:20:20.319 Swan in Dublin, and I posted it. There was a 446 00:20:20.319 --> 00:20:23.160 photo like we were outside like pub culture obviously spilling 447 00:20:23.160 --> 00:20:25.720 onto the street and we were having a few last 448 00:20:25.720 --> 00:20:29.279 pints on our last night there, if memory serves, And 449 00:20:29.319 --> 00:20:31.559 then a Firescape listener was like, oh, that's me in 450 00:20:31.599 --> 00:20:33.640 the background. I thought that was you, but didn't know 451 00:20:33.680 --> 00:20:35.000 why you'd be in Dublin. I was like, yeah, you 452 00:20:35.000 --> 00:20:36.119 should come say hi. 453 00:20:36.400 --> 00:20:39.160 But it's impossible that you could have been there, so 454 00:20:39.240 --> 00:20:41.079 he didn't say anything. 455 00:20:41.400 --> 00:20:45.880 That's funny, but France sounds it looked rad were you 456 00:20:45.880 --> 00:20:50.160 you were in, Like you went up through like the country, 457 00:20:50.200 --> 00:20:51.839 you stopped at like a chateau for a bit. 458 00:20:52.400 --> 00:20:54.119 I did, so I was curious. 459 00:20:54.160 --> 00:20:57.960 I assume you've been to all of France and you 460 00:20:58.039 --> 00:21:00.440 know where I was. But I went to a all 461 00:21:01.160 --> 00:21:05.039 town called Cigarette and I've been calling it Cigarette. 462 00:21:05.200 --> 00:21:09.039 Yeah that sounds good. No, I have not been to 463 00:21:09.079 --> 00:21:12.119 all of France. I've been to like up up and 464 00:21:12.160 --> 00:21:16.680 down the west coast Paris several times, and then below 465 00:21:16.799 --> 00:21:18.640 Paris in the center of the country. But I haven't 466 00:21:18.640 --> 00:21:20.680 been to like Provence or the south of France, or 467 00:21:20.920 --> 00:21:23.480 Leon or Burgundy, Champagne, et cetera. 468 00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:26.400 I drove up through all of them. I tried out 469 00:21:26.440 --> 00:21:30.400 the crine for Champagne, and I didn't pull over. I 470 00:21:30.480 --> 00:21:31.319 didn't pull over. 471 00:21:31.880 --> 00:21:36.000 I was like, we're going Champagne. Champagne's a quick hop 472 00:21:36.039 --> 00:21:38.640 from Paris, just east of it. No, I like northeast 473 00:21:38.680 --> 00:21:40.079 of it. Actually, I'm not. 474 00:21:40.039 --> 00:21:43.839 A huge champagne person, although I do love an apparel spirts, 475 00:21:43.880 --> 00:21:47.359 which I think includes champagne. But I find champagne by 476 00:21:47.400 --> 00:21:49.480 itself kind of it always gives me a hangover. 477 00:21:50.359 --> 00:21:52.039 I have it with mimosas. I had some of those 478 00:21:52.119 --> 00:21:52.599 last week. 479 00:21:52.680 --> 00:21:54.640 I love a mimosa in the morning. 480 00:21:54.680 --> 00:21:55.200 They're great. 481 00:21:55.279 --> 00:21:56.799 Yes, I think so too. 482 00:21:57.400 --> 00:21:59.960 Yeah, it's purely a morning thing for me. But yeah, 483 00:22:00.519 --> 00:22:00.880 you're not. 484 00:22:00.839 --> 00:22:01.400 Taking the bait. 485 00:22:02.880 --> 00:22:06.240 No, what's the bait? You don't You wouldn't use champagne 486 00:22:06.240 --> 00:22:09.039 in those, you use prosecco. 487 00:22:09.240 --> 00:22:12.279 Oh, I've never actually made one. Yeah, Hey, we. 488 00:22:12.359 --> 00:22:14.400 Just combine orange juice and prosecco. 489 00:22:14.519 --> 00:22:16.440 Oh, I thought it was in champagne the whole time. 490 00:22:17.039 --> 00:22:20.559 It's sparkling wine, but you could. You could sensibly use champagne, 491 00:22:20.599 --> 00:22:22.759 for sure. I just don't think immediately if you're getting 492 00:22:22.759 --> 00:22:23.079 it at. 493 00:22:22.960 --> 00:22:24.519 A restaurant, comes the wine. 494 00:22:24.759 --> 00:22:27.480 No, no, no, just purely from a price point. Most restaurants 495 00:22:27.480 --> 00:22:29.599 would be losing money if they did that with champagne 496 00:22:29.640 --> 00:22:32.440 when they could be doing prosecco, which is much cheaper. 497 00:22:32.920 --> 00:22:34.359 I'm not trying to be a dick about I'm saying 498 00:22:34.440 --> 00:22:35.920 it was most likely proscco, but you could do it 499 00:22:35.960 --> 00:22:36.720 with champagne. 500 00:22:36.960 --> 00:22:38.440 I assume you are right about this. 501 00:22:38.680 --> 00:22:41.440 I am, yes, right, But you're also speaking to like 502 00:22:41.519 --> 00:22:45.799 when I grew up, when when you clink glasses of 503 00:22:45.839 --> 00:22:48.400 sparkling wine you say, oh, champagne. 504 00:22:48.559 --> 00:22:48.880 Yeah. 505 00:22:48.920 --> 00:22:51.880 The first fucking time in my life I heard someone 506 00:22:51.960 --> 00:22:57.079 say the word prosecco was when we had the Australians 507 00:22:57.200 --> 00:23:02.640 come over for ETH three and one of the Australians 508 00:23:02.680 --> 00:23:04.559 asked for a glass of prosecco and I was like, 509 00:23:04.640 --> 00:23:08.400 what's that and they were like, it's sparkling wine, and 510 00:23:08.480 --> 00:23:09.640 I was like, oh, champagne. 511 00:23:09.640 --> 00:23:12.720 And they were like, No, Australians have a pretty good 512 00:23:12.920 --> 00:23:15.440 base for wine knowledge I have found. I mean, I 513 00:23:15.480 --> 00:23:18.079 know the country has a gross wine, like a lot 514 00:23:18.119 --> 00:23:19.240 of it, but yeah, I know. 515 00:23:19.319 --> 00:23:22.279 I always assumed that sparkling wine was champagne growing up. 516 00:23:22.319 --> 00:23:25.559 I never no, I did too. It's like xerox, frisbee, 517 00:23:25.599 --> 00:23:27.920 those words that become kind of synonymous with the thing 518 00:23:27.920 --> 00:23:30.759 itself to the point where they overtake the actual word 519 00:23:30.839 --> 00:23:32.960 or whatever. I get it. I was just saying, like 520 00:23:32.960 --> 00:23:35.480 if you if I'm a restaurant and I have bottles 521 00:23:35.480 --> 00:23:38.119 of champagne, they're always going to be more almost always 522 00:23:38.160 --> 00:23:41.400 going to be more expensive than prosecco, or Germany has 523 00:23:41.480 --> 00:23:45.480 zecked or Spain has kava. It's just like, you make 524 00:23:45.519 --> 00:23:48.920 more money off than the most of my pouring prosecco the. 525 00:23:49.000 --> 00:23:52.480 Cheapest and other news of fancy culture. I got a 526 00:23:52.519 --> 00:23:53.319 tooth gem? 527 00:23:53.680 --> 00:23:57.240 What is that tooth gem? It's oh, it's exactly what 528 00:23:57.279 --> 00:23:57.839 it sounds like. 529 00:23:58.559 --> 00:24:00.480 Oh what the hell? What am I looking that here? 530 00:24:00.640 --> 00:24:04.359 Whoa what are these French dentists doing? What the fuck 531 00:24:04.920 --> 00:24:06.720 is this brown woman tooth gem? 532 00:24:09.440 --> 00:24:11.519 And she has a gem on her tooth? 533 00:24:11.720 --> 00:24:15.440 Three months dan Oh Okay, so they're not like damaging 534 00:24:15.480 --> 00:24:17.519 your tooth at all to do that, right, No, it's. 535 00:24:17.359 --> 00:24:19.440 Not like drilling a hole in your tooth. 536 00:24:19.559 --> 00:24:23.920 It's it's probably done with like the same dental concrete 537 00:24:24.039 --> 00:24:24.799 that they used to. 538 00:24:24.720 --> 00:24:25.759 Put on your braces. 539 00:24:25.799 --> 00:24:30.200 Though, Okay, I went to an after party, so can 540 00:24:30.400 --> 00:24:32.519 is kind of like known not just for like these 541 00:24:32.559 --> 00:24:35.559 like interesting day booths where you like meet and make 542 00:24:35.680 --> 00:24:38.359 money deals, big big money deals, but at the very 543 00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:41.640 end there's always like these big parties where like Odessa 544 00:24:41.960 --> 00:24:44.359 or like dip low play. And I went to one 545 00:24:44.359 --> 00:24:46.160 of these parties and just there was like a fucking 546 00:24:46.279 --> 00:24:50.480 lady in the corner doing tooth gems. And I was 547 00:24:50.559 --> 00:24:55.000 with the CEO of our company Twitch and and I 548 00:24:55.160 --> 00:24:58.839 was like, yeah, I was with. 549 00:24:59.000 --> 00:25:00.279 Use the spaceship when you do these. 550 00:25:00.799 --> 00:25:02.799 No, okay, don't let me have ship. 551 00:25:03.079 --> 00:25:05.799 And there's a tooth gem. He's in the middle of 552 00:25:05.839 --> 00:25:09.480 his Italian wedding. He hopped up to France and tooth gem. 553 00:25:09.400 --> 00:25:11.680 Came back and we and we both got toothjem. 554 00:25:12.119 --> 00:25:14.119 He got every tooth done covered. 555 00:25:13.799 --> 00:25:15.519 It like braces. 556 00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:18.720 Making out with him be like a cat. 557 00:25:18.400 --> 00:25:21.279 I panicked though, I was like because I think you're 558 00:25:21.319 --> 00:25:23.119 supposed to get him like on your main teeth so 559 00:25:23.160 --> 00:25:25.079 that it's like really obvious when you smile. But I 560 00:25:25.160 --> 00:25:27.759 was like, no, I got it on the lower canine. 561 00:25:28.079 --> 00:25:30.240 That way, I can like show it off, but if 562 00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:31.839 I don't want to, it doesn't show. 563 00:25:32.519 --> 00:25:35.079 But it's three months and what I assume. 564 00:25:34.799 --> 00:25:37.200 Happens is one day I'll be talking and I'll just 565 00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:38.519 be like, look and I'll just swam. 566 00:25:38.960 --> 00:25:41.400 It's not like a cyanide tooth or anything. Though, right, 567 00:25:41.440 --> 00:25:42.519 you're fine to swallow it. 568 00:25:42.839 --> 00:25:45.000 I don't think it's gonna kill you, but I do 569 00:25:45.039 --> 00:25:47.039 think I'll have to like poop it out eventually. 570 00:25:47.240 --> 00:25:49.039 If it's a tiny little thing, that should be fine. 571 00:25:49.240 --> 00:25:50.960 I think it's pretty small. I don't. 572 00:25:51.000 --> 00:25:54.000 I think you can barely tell that it exists. 573 00:25:54.240 --> 00:25:55.160 I can't really see it. 574 00:25:55.480 --> 00:25:57.559 Yeah, I had to like kind of get it is weird. 575 00:25:57.599 --> 00:26:00.480 I like, I like touch it with my topung a lot. 576 00:26:00.680 --> 00:26:03.200 I'll like recognize it just like a it'd be like 577 00:26:03.319 --> 00:26:07.240 having one brace, not braces, but just one brace on 578 00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:09.119 one of your teeth and you're kind of like, what 579 00:26:09.240 --> 00:26:09.599 is that? 580 00:26:09.640 --> 00:26:12.359 Like I touch it a lot, and I noticed it 581 00:26:12.400 --> 00:26:12.880 a lot. 582 00:26:12.839 --> 00:26:15.240 But sure, any like it changed to your bite or 583 00:26:15.279 --> 00:26:16.319 anything like the whole time I was doing like the 584 00:26:16.440 --> 00:26:18.480 visiline stuff and everything, like every time it shifts or 585 00:26:18.519 --> 00:26:20.839 something doesn't bite downright or is different, it's like you 586 00:26:20.960 --> 00:26:21.720 super notice that. 587 00:26:21.880 --> 00:26:24.880 You know, Yeah, it's weird to fuck with your mouth. 588 00:26:24.920 --> 00:26:27.400 I do think it's like probably something the kids are 589 00:26:27.440 --> 00:26:30.240 getting into, right, Like when we were growing up. I 590 00:26:30.279 --> 00:26:33.480 think it was like super valuable, at least for the girls. 591 00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:35.960 It was like you gotta get your belly button pierce. 592 00:26:36.039 --> 00:26:38.680 Like that's like what a lot of kids were doing, right. 593 00:26:38.759 --> 00:26:41.000 It was like the way to alter yourself. I actually 594 00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:44.319 think that a tooth gem is way better because you 595 00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:47.240 just swallow it in three months and it's no must, 596 00:26:47.240 --> 00:26:47.640 no fuss. 597 00:26:47.640 --> 00:26:50.640 It's like you can do a belly button ring too, though, no. 598 00:26:50.519 --> 00:26:53.119 Because you well, yes, but you always have like a 599 00:26:53.119 --> 00:26:54.480 little hole in there, ye. 600 00:26:57.400 --> 00:26:57.599 Ring. 601 00:26:57.680 --> 00:26:58.920 But you have a whole option. 602 00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:01.839 Yeah, same thing. 603 00:27:02.119 --> 00:27:04.359 I'm just talking one day and I swallowed my belly 604 00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:04.880 button ring. 605 00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:12.359 You look like you look like Joe Pesci from Home Alone. Yeah, 606 00:27:12.599 --> 00:27:17.599 don't worry hands tweet, Yeah, yeah. 607 00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:22.519 It's a it's it's a funny thing to get, like, 608 00:27:22.559 --> 00:27:25.759 it is just such a funny thing to acquire on 609 00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:27.920 a work trip, especially on a work trip, and I 610 00:27:28.000 --> 00:27:30.559 can't tell you any work trip where I have acquired 611 00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:38.759 like an alteration to my body aesthetically, uh, because that's 612 00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:41.640 never occurred. But at this very particular party, they were 613 00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:46.079 doing all sorts of like strange alterations, temporary tattoos, hair 614 00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:48.960 gems and tooth gems and so like I just got. 615 00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:51.759 One hair temporary aspect of that probably makes that an 616 00:27:51.759 --> 00:27:53.160 easier sell, for sure. 617 00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:57.000 It is. It is a cell but months right, like well, 618 00:27:57.119 --> 00:28:00.759 let's temper. Yeah, like a temporary. 619 00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:03.759 Tattoo of like like a snake on your face, but 620 00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:04.440 it's three. 621 00:28:04.240 --> 00:28:07.759 Months, not face for three months. No, I would do 622 00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:11.480 a stupid temporary tattoo somewhere like arm or something like that, 623 00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:15.039 even something super stupid. You know, that's temporary. It's as 624 00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:16.359 long as you can kind of show it when you 625 00:28:16.400 --> 00:28:20.440 want to. I was doing the opposite of trapesing about 626 00:28:20.480 --> 00:28:25.359 Europe my trip. My last one was kans Midwest Lake culture, 627 00:28:25.759 --> 00:28:28.960 which I think is very different than European trade shows 628 00:28:29.000 --> 00:28:33.480 and stuff. It's is this just like a Midwest Lake 629 00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:36.839 culture thing where it's every fucking bar is it's the 630 00:28:36.839 --> 00:28:40.559 wet spot, it's the hungry beaver. It's the slippery leaster. 631 00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:42.640 It's like eat him run, and it's like, you know, 632 00:28:42.680 --> 00:28:45.319 it's just like everything's just like the lamest innu window 633 00:28:45.400 --> 00:28:48.319 you've ever heard, and everyone thinks it's the funniest thing 634 00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:50.440 in the world. Yes, is this just a Midwest thing? 635 00:28:50.559 --> 00:28:52.880 No, that's that's I mean, Okay, Central New York might 636 00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:54.720 as well be the Midwest. So I can't really tell 637 00:28:54.720 --> 00:28:55.680 you whether it is or isn't it. 638 00:28:55.720 --> 00:28:58.240 Okay, Okay, I just know like the ozarcs and like 639 00:28:58.319 --> 00:29:00.279 cans and stuff and everything. I guess I'd go to 640 00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:01.799 a lot of lakes in Minnesota's West coast. 641 00:29:01.880 --> 00:29:04.119 It's not West Coast as well, has stuff like that 642 00:29:04.160 --> 00:29:07.599 in the like vacation beach here, Lake Lake Country, for sure. 643 00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:10.480 What is it about drinking near a lake that makes 644 00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:12.480 people come up with lame sex puns? 645 00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:15.519 I think it's just like Lake Kisch kind of like 646 00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:18.759 that's their idea of like humor. 647 00:29:18.599 --> 00:29:20.599 As we don't dig ourselves too seriously. 648 00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:23.160 Yeah, it's like Kiki bars have their own version of 649 00:29:23.200 --> 00:29:25.920 that kind of humor. And then I think Lake Country 650 00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:28.960 gets that in a different way and it's a lot 651 00:29:28.960 --> 00:29:29.599 of innuendo. 652 00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:35.759 Got youah boy, certain certain type at those Midwest lake places. 653 00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:40.160 It's just there's a real active disdain for people from 654 00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:43.079 you know, the coasts or certain cities and things like 655 00:29:43.359 --> 00:29:46.160 I swear I go home and I just feel like 656 00:29:46.200 --> 00:29:51.279 everyone thinks I'm know, I'm Chomsky. Like it's just like wow, yeah, 657 00:29:51.559 --> 00:29:52.599 many people are saying this. 658 00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:55.279 Yeah, both Marx brothers combined. 659 00:29:55.759 --> 00:29:58.200 Yeah, but it's just like even like just every little 660 00:29:58.240 --> 00:29:59.880 thing has to be like, hey, fuck those people on 661 00:29:59.920 --> 00:30:02.960 the coast right where it's like here we're having cowboy caviar. 662 00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:05.240 It's like they like all their fancy caviar, but ours 663 00:30:05.279 --> 00:30:07.160 is shitty because we don't care. And it's just like 664 00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:09.640 this weird, like I don't know, there's just this. 665 00:30:09.599 --> 00:30:12.519 Weird, distained anti culture, but like the. 666 00:30:12.599 --> 00:30:15.119 Proud like anti culture thing, which is why I love 667 00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:17.960 going and getting drinking shitty beers on a lake and everything. 668 00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:20.200 But it's just like, I don't know, everything's gotten. I 669 00:30:20.200 --> 00:30:21.519 don't know if it was always this way, but it 670 00:30:21.559 --> 00:30:23.880 just feels like everything's just a little more. It's a 671 00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:27.240 lot of flags, a lot of weirdly aggressive stuff. But 672 00:30:27.559 --> 00:30:29.000 you know, hung out with the family, it was it 673 00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:30.599 was a good time. Got to drive a golf cart 674 00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:32.000 around for a while, so that was good. 675 00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:34.240 It does seem to be getting more intense every time 676 00:30:34.279 --> 00:30:36.680 I go home, like that kind of resentment trip on 677 00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:41.160 the shoulder and like yeah, different different world, like I've heard. Yeah, 678 00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:43.640 but I have those friends who are like, oh, sorry, 679 00:30:43.680 --> 00:30:45.519 this isn't a shutting oof to Pop. I'm like, dude, 680 00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:47.839 I will still drink you onto the table with bud 681 00:30:47.880 --> 00:30:50.200 lights to this day, don't. That is why. 682 00:30:50.359 --> 00:30:53.400 No matter how far you go into wine, Mic, no 683 00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:56.039 matter how deep you go down this wine hole. 684 00:30:56.119 --> 00:30:58.160 That piece of shit is still really in there. 685 00:30:58.480 --> 00:30:58.680 Yeah. 686 00:30:59.160 --> 00:31:02.039 I will give you shit, I will give you ship 687 00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:05.119 for the stuff, but you are still that dumb mess. 688 00:31:05.119 --> 00:31:07.599 In fact, I shotguned my second beer ever because I 689 00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:10.079 lost mini golf at the lake and I was thinking 690 00:31:10.119 --> 00:31:11.359 to you, Mike was like, this is the second time 691 00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:12.759 I've ever done this, And Mike taught me how to 692 00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:15.000 do this many many years ago, because yeah, you are 693 00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:17.720 that dumb ass is there and you don't look down 694 00:31:17.759 --> 00:31:18.599 your nose of that one bit. 695 00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:21.319 So you got videos of me sprinting and diving into 696 00:31:21.319 --> 00:31:23.400 trash cans, like not far from where I live right 697 00:31:23.400 --> 00:31:24.079 now at all. 698 00:31:24.160 --> 00:31:26.079 Yeah, Yeah, no, I deeply respect that. 699 00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:29.279 Yeah, every time I go home, people are like I 700 00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:32.200 was like, I I love a bud Light. I'm not, well, 701 00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:34.160 I'm not going to actually like like the taste. Of course, 702 00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:37.160 that's beside the point. At that point, like I'll drink them, 703 00:31:37.839 --> 00:31:40.440 but a blue light there's nothing better. It's it's blue light, 704 00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:45.880 the bat blue light, Guinness wine in that or PBR 705 00:31:46.480 --> 00:31:50.240 on a hot smoke a peeb no this weekend. 706 00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:53.400 Yeah, I really do like them, and to this day, 707 00:31:53.839 --> 00:31:56.720 even here in my hometown, PBR is like one of 708 00:31:56.759 --> 00:32:00.359 the more affordable drinks you can get, and I I 709 00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:03.920 love like after a long day, especially on a hot day, 710 00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:07.279 having cold PBR and fries like that is my go to. 711 00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:08.920 So like it's still in there. 712 00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:11.279 I got to say, I don't think I'm in any 713 00:32:11.319 --> 00:32:14.359 way a snob, but because like any shitty beer, Like 714 00:32:14.440 --> 00:32:16.839 I just drank nothing but Milwaukee's Best Light and I'll 715 00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:18.759 do that to this day, whatever shitty beer you give me, 716 00:32:18.759 --> 00:32:19.160 I'll drink it. 717 00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:20.759 Whatever somebody sends you too. 718 00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:23.400 I think the way to your heart is just for 719 00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:25.720 people to send you things and then you'll be like, 720 00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:26.799 I love brand. 721 00:32:26.920 --> 00:32:29.720 You know what you would have loved can Leon. It 722 00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:31.720 was essentially brand Fest. 723 00:32:32.039 --> 00:32:32.359 It was. 724 00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:33.400 That was all it was. 725 00:32:33.720 --> 00:32:36.799 I I disagree there because the beers that I've gotten 726 00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:39.400 for free. I had the thing with bud Light in Connecticut, 727 00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:40.799 and I got the thing with Utipils here, and I 728 00:32:40.839 --> 00:32:42.640 genuinely like both of those. I don't even work with 729 00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:44.680 bud Light anymore, but I still say I like, but 730 00:32:44.839 --> 00:32:46.319 like no. But I'm about to say there is a 731 00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:48.240 beer I tried that I did not like, maybe for 732 00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:50.960 the first time. Quick Trip. Do you know the brand 733 00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:53.000 Quick Trip? Not the one everyone thinks they know it, 734 00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:56.920 but it's yeah, but it's the Midwest, like Red Sign. 735 00:32:57.000 --> 00:32:57.160 Mike. 736 00:32:57.200 --> 00:32:59.279 You might have seen it because you spent some time, Yes, 737 00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:02.640 everywhere in the Midwest, and I love Quick Trip. They 738 00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:05.279 got great tiketos and and like all sorts of great 739 00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:09.400 stuff there. But apparently they introduced their own beer called 740 00:33:09.519 --> 00:33:12.200 quentin Time, and there was a bunch of that at 741 00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:15.920 the lake and I drank some Quinton Time, and uh, 742 00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:18.319 it ain't good at all. They had nothing. It was 743 00:33:18.319 --> 00:33:20.000 a lot of Quittin Time and like one of the 744 00:33:20.200 --> 00:33:24.880 Kelsey's beers garage beer or something. Yeah, that's the one 745 00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:26.759 I shotguned. Was Travis Kelsey's beer. 746 00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:27.720 That's the only way. 747 00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:31.440 Jason Kelsey, who's the Kansas City one. Travis Okay, I 748 00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:33.240 think Travis Kelsey has a beer called. 749 00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:35.200 You're not the same guy there. 750 00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:37.599 They both have beards. 751 00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:41.200 Now. His brother, Jason kelce was a center for the 752 00:33:41.240 --> 00:33:44.079 Philadelphia Eagles, and Travis Kelcey is the tight end for 753 00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:45.000 the Kansasity Chiefs. 754 00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:47.640 But they're both all over the place. Yes, Oh, it's 755 00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:49.400 co owned by both Kelsey brothers. 756 00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:52.680 That's what it is. I don't mind, and I don't 757 00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:54.720 like the Eagles whatsoever. Fuck them. 758 00:33:55.480 --> 00:33:57.759 That beer was fine. The Kelseys have a better beer 759 00:33:57.759 --> 00:33:59.839 than Quick Trip, but yeah, it's all very. 760 00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:02.000 I'd be worried if they didn't because Quick Trip, if 761 00:34:02.079 --> 00:34:06.720 memory serves, was kind of like we had like nice 762 00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:12.440 and easy Cumberland farms, munches, you know, a gas station, 763 00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:15.159 but meat's like not quite not bodega at all, but 764 00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:20.480 like mini grocery store with like rollers and hot dogs 765 00:34:20.519 --> 00:34:23.199 and ship. Yeah, beer caves they always got it. It's 766 00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:24.320 always a beer cave. Yeah. 767 00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:26.960 Roadside, you know, very You're on a road trip going 768 00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:28.400 down I thirty five and you stop and get some 769 00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:29.480 bullshit to refuel. 770 00:34:29.559 --> 00:34:32.679 Yeah, I don't I don't miss driving, really, but I 771 00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:35.480 do miss like hot summer nights with my body, like 772 00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:39.639 fourteen years ago. Not that like not, I'm not talking. 773 00:34:39.639 --> 00:34:42.079 I'm still talking after high school, like college years, when 774 00:34:42.119 --> 00:34:44.320 I went back for a couple of years, Like when 775 00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:45.679 it's hot as ship and you get out and you 776 00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:47.760 walk into that like walk in beer cave and you're 777 00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:50.679 just there for the temperature and you walk out, maybe 778 00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:54.360 a couple of Molson's, maybe a few the Bats, and 779 00:34:55.880 --> 00:34:58.320 it's just a it's a great, great rest of night 780 00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:00.719 because because you have shitty beer. 781 00:35:01.079 --> 00:35:02.480 I mean, that was that was my move. When I 782 00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:04.320 worked at the liquor store. You know, a couple comes in. 783 00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:06.559 You know it's a college liquor store, I probably told us, 784 00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:08.760 but like it's usually just college gypshits coming in a 785 00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:11.559 game day buying a cheap beer. But you'd occasionally see 786 00:35:11.599 --> 00:35:13.920 a thirty thirty something couple coming in and they would 787 00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:16.440 go to the wine section and oh no, they're gonna 788 00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:18.320 ask me a question about wine. And that's when I 789 00:35:18.400 --> 00:35:19.840 hide in the freezer until they leave. 790 00:35:20.719 --> 00:35:23.119 It's my entire job at the bars, people coming in 791 00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:24.639 and asking for wine recommendations. 792 00:35:24.679 --> 00:35:28.559 I had the Yeah, imagine. 793 00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:31.880 If I'll be right back with your recommendation, sir. 794 00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:34.519 You're just peering between the cases. Are yet? 795 00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:35.239 Are they gone yet? 796 00:35:35.360 --> 00:35:37.280 There's a painting in the corner where the eye holes 797 00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:38.920 cut out that Dad's watching them through. 798 00:35:41.119 --> 00:35:42.519 It's just the paintings in Kansas. 799 00:35:42.599 --> 00:35:46.000 No, dude, you know what I like buzzballs? 800 00:35:46.800 --> 00:35:48.840 Ooh, what flavor? 801 00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:50.599 I like the green one? 802 00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:53.000 That's okay, that's the one we had. Have you seen 803 00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:55.079 the giant ones that are like two leaders. 804 00:35:55.039 --> 00:35:56.599 Yeah, I've seen the giant ones. 805 00:35:56.800 --> 00:35:57.719 That's the one we had. 806 00:35:57.960 --> 00:36:00.239 The cream ones that are like made of milk. 807 00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:00.719 Yeah. 808 00:36:01.079 --> 00:36:03.400 We we went to the Airbnb for a giant bomb 809 00:36:03.400 --> 00:36:06.079 Summer Games Fest place and there was a fridge that 810 00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:08.920 didn't work in a garage and we opened it up 811 00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:11.440 and there was a two liter green buzzball in there 812 00:36:11.519 --> 00:36:13.880 from god knows when. And I'll be damned if we 813 00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:17.119 did not kill that thing. Jan fucking Edward forty hands 814 00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:19.360 that thing and taped it to his hands and was 815 00:36:19.400 --> 00:36:20.920 going around. I had my video on my phone of 816 00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:23.199 him going around to a bunch of games media people 817 00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:25.559 who are kneeling on the floor as he is like 818 00:36:25.599 --> 00:36:28.199 a communion ritual, and he's pouring the green buzzball into 819 00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:30.559 everyone's mouth and we killed the thing. I poured it 820 00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:33.760 on a fucking burger and ate it. I would green buzzball? 821 00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:36.440 Is it green apple? I'm assuming no. 822 00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:39.239 It was like a weird tequila. It was. It was bad. 823 00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:41.480 It was, and I made the extra bad. 824 00:36:41.800 --> 00:36:42.719 It was margarita. 825 00:36:43.159 --> 00:36:44.320 Oh that I think that might have been it. 826 00:36:44.360 --> 00:36:45.159 I think that's what it is. 827 00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:47.920 The color is a better way to describe it than 828 00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:49.000 the flavor profile. 829 00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:50.000 Jolly Rancher. 830 00:36:50.199 --> 00:36:52.960 The way buzzballs work exactly. 831 00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:57.599 You're just having orange or blue, but you're not really 832 00:36:57.719 --> 00:37:00.480 having like a flavor. 833 00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:02.679 It's it's a pixie stick. 834 00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:05.519 Dude with they get to drink which with a hard. 835 00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:08.000 Clicker in it. It's it's great. We used to, uh. 836 00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:10.599 I went on a work trip one where we got 837 00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:13.559 the buzzballs, and then we watched the James Bond one 838 00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:19.719 that is about the gambling casino Royal Casino Royale, and 839 00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:24.159 you know how like in that one he gets trapped 840 00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:26.000 and they tie him to a chair and. 841 00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:30.440 Yeah, and they hit his balls for a while. That's 842 00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:30.920 not great. 843 00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:32.840 You have to drink a buzz ball every time the 844 00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:33.559 balls get hit. 845 00:37:33.719 --> 00:37:38.280 Full buzzball, every ball hit no, just like a wig. Okay, 846 00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:40.199 that's such a short scene. Like, that's not a drinking game. 847 00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:42.079 But I think of a drinking game. It's one that like, oh, 848 00:37:42.119 --> 00:37:43.920 throughout this movie, they're gonna say this word a bunch 849 00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:45.519 and you drink every time they say it. There's only 850 00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:47.880 like one ball torture scene in Casino Royale. 851 00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:51.960 Name a movie with more balls than Dan. 852 00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:59.039 More balls balls, pop Star has more dick. Yeah, no, 853 00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:03.719 that's not what I more balls. Oh you don't see 854 00:38:03.760 --> 00:38:06.679 his balls props are now? You just see the dick 855 00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:07.679 rubbing against the window. 856 00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:13.360 Right, Okay, so ball references not fucking waiting, which Dan 857 00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:14.599 made me watching his basement. 858 00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:17.559 I didn't make you to doctor Ryan from the chat. 859 00:38:17.639 --> 00:38:20.920 Maybe I've never even seen this plugging in a salamander 860 00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:22.360 infested basement. 861 00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:26.760 And it was still waiting the sequel to waiting those movies. 862 00:38:27.639 --> 00:38:30.360 I am so ashamed I ever found that funny when 863 00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:31.760 I was like fucking fifteen. 864 00:38:32.039 --> 00:38:36.360 It's so embarrassing either. But I was a waiter, so 865 00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:38.559 like I was like, I get it. 866 00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:41.599 You know Joe Dirt the dog who has the big 867 00:38:41.639 --> 00:38:44.440 saggy balls and it gets frozen to the deck and 868 00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:45.840 they have to use dispatch to let it get his 869 00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:46.760 balls off the deck. 870 00:38:47.159 --> 00:38:51.639 Joe Dirt has a lot of balls balls movie. Other 871 00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:52.679 than that, though, I think. 872 00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:56.159 What if Joe Dirt holds up? I like Joe Dirt 873 00:38:56.159 --> 00:38:56.920 a lot back in the day. 874 00:38:58.039 --> 00:39:01.840 Brandy is it Brandy? Yes? 875 00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:06.880 His sister Brittany m and Brittany Uh yes, Howard Brittany. 876 00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:08.440 Yeah. She went on to be in a few things. 877 00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:11.760 She was a Jo durt too. She was the cousin. 878 00:39:11.880 --> 00:39:13.639 She was a cousin as a guest star in one 879 00:39:13.679 --> 00:39:15.880 episode of that seventy show, and then she was also 880 00:39:16.360 --> 00:39:20.199 she played a recurring character whose very name is Her 881 00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:23.199 name's Carmen, but the gang and it's always Sonny has 882 00:39:23.199 --> 00:39:25.440 a nickname for her, which I'm not going to repeat here, 883 00:39:25.480 --> 00:39:27.599 but people who watch the show know what I'm talking about. 884 00:39:27.760 --> 00:39:31.880 Yeah, Brittany Daniel Yeah, no, always sung in Philadelphia. Yeah, 885 00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:35.079 JODRT two beautiful Loser, Loser white Chicks, all the stars 886 00:39:35.079 --> 00:39:39.440 are here. Cheaper by the Dozen Yeah that eighties. Holy shit, I've. 887 00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:41.119 Seen Cheaper by the dozen way more times than I 888 00:39:41.159 --> 00:39:43.239 care to admit. Why who is she in Cheaper by doesn't? 889 00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:43.800 Was she a sister? 890 00:39:43.880 --> 00:39:46.280 Now she's Basketball Diaries what the fuck? 891 00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:50.840 Okay, Oh, that's way higher clout than most of her 892 00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:51.440 other stuff. 893 00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:53.239 No, she has an identical twin sister. 894 00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:56.800 Oh does she really? 895 00:39:57.519 --> 00:40:00.000 Yeah? What's her name, Cynthia Daniel? 896 00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:02.719 Maybe it's her and other stuff I've been seeing. 897 00:40:02.760 --> 00:40:04.920 It could be she's also an actress and looks exactly 898 00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:05.320 like her. 899 00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:07.280 So I've jaded to two different people. 900 00:40:08.519 --> 00:40:11.760 I don't think that's how it works. There are two 901 00:40:11.760 --> 00:40:15.639 different people. Don't know if the other one's been in 902 00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:16.559 ones that you've seen. 903 00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:19.320 I've had one more person in my spank bank than 904 00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:20.719 I thought this whole time. 905 00:40:21.559 --> 00:40:23.800 This whole time, there's. 906 00:40:23.679 --> 00:40:27.800 Limited space in there. I'm very selective. Do you guys 907 00:40:27.800 --> 00:40:29.119 want to talk about it? Oh? I didn't talk about 908 00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:34.840 Ireland yet. Yeah, Ireland's fucking awesome. I miss it. We started, 909 00:40:34.880 --> 00:40:37.800 we did three days in Dublin, drove rented a car 910 00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:40.400 and Dublin, drove down to Cork City and then drove 911 00:40:40.480 --> 00:40:43.920 up the Wild Atlantic Way to Galway and then drove 912 00:40:44.079 --> 00:40:48.239 across the country back to Dublin. Unreal. We got phenomenal 913 00:40:48.239 --> 00:40:51.239 weather seven days out of ten. The other times I 914 00:40:51.320 --> 00:40:52.679 like rain a lot, but I was glad it was 915 00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:54.400 not rained the whole time. My wife does not like rain, 916 00:40:54.480 --> 00:40:56.400 but she was being a champ in case it did rain. 917 00:40:56.440 --> 00:40:59.039 It did not. We stayed on a houseboat in Galway 918 00:40:59.079 --> 00:41:00.119 in the bay we. 919 00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:03.000 Saw that the picture of the houseboat so awesome. 920 00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:05.800 Like funnily enough. Man and I always talk about when 921 00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:08.360 we finally I've never been to Amsterdam. She has when I, 922 00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:09.880 when I finally go to Amsterdam, I want to spend 923 00:41:09.880 --> 00:41:11.559 at least a night on one of the houseboats there. 924 00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:17.960 This boat was a refurbished Amsterdam barge houseboat that like 925 00:41:18.920 --> 00:41:21.280 they used to use on the river there, canal whatever, 926 00:41:21.320 --> 00:41:26.079 what have you. So we stayed there. That was great. 927 00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:29.039 We did two nights on the boat. I would not 928 00:41:29.199 --> 00:41:31.880 do any more than that. No, it was big enough 929 00:41:31.880 --> 00:41:33.599 where it was like basically half of it was beached. 930 00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:39.360 But there she the airbnb owner, she's a Portuguese like captain. 931 00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:41.880 She owns two other boats that are moored right with it. 932 00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:45.079 So if you wanted, if you are going to Ireland 933 00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:48.360 with like a group of six people, you could rent 934 00:41:48.400 --> 00:41:51.039 out each boat and have a little like Armada party 935 00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:53.119 if you wanted. You're not supposed to have parties there, 936 00:41:53.119 --> 00:41:57.119 but it was it was super cool. Galway is awesome. 937 00:41:57.400 --> 00:42:00.400 Gallway felt more. Galway's the smallest city we stayed in, 938 00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:05.239 and it felt more like a vacation where like people 939 00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:09.360 from Ireland were going there for the weekend, but super 940 00:42:09.599 --> 00:42:13.639 like gorgeous beaches around there, pubs. The whole trip was amazing, 941 00:42:14.119 --> 00:42:17.280 tons of good Spanish food. I knew Ireland and Spain 942 00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:20.239 have this relationship going back centuries from trade routes, but 943 00:42:20.360 --> 00:42:24.119 like all the top Us places we went to were unreal. 944 00:42:24.159 --> 00:42:26.239 I think most of our favorite food was Spanish while 945 00:42:26.239 --> 00:42:30.119 we were there. But Dan I had a meal there 946 00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:34.360 that I think maybe my favorite meal the whole ten days. 947 00:42:34.679 --> 00:42:36.519 I think you'd both like it, but Dan, you especially. 948 00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:41.360 I was like, holy shit, this is like I feel 949 00:42:41.400 --> 00:42:43.599 like the if fire Escape ever goes to Dublin, we 950 00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:47.239 need to go to this place called Spitalfields. It's a pub. However, 951 00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:50.400 they are famous for like they do really good pies, 952 00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:54.239 like pot pies. They have this thing called a kakaaliki pie, 953 00:42:54.320 --> 00:42:57.880 which is just a kakaalaky pie. It's just slang for 954 00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:01.440 a chicken and leaks like big green onions to be reductive. 955 00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:02.480 But they come. 956 00:43:02.800 --> 00:43:06.159 It's like a bar that Dan would have found in 957 00:43:06.280 --> 00:43:07.320 one of his towns. 958 00:43:10.519 --> 00:43:11.760 No, that was the leaky cock it. 959 00:43:13.039 --> 00:43:16.079 Yeah, they danced around it a bit in Dublin, but yeah, 960 00:43:16.079 --> 00:43:19.039 but no, it comes in it's like it's perfectly like 961 00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:22.559 brown top to this, like braided pie unreal. And then 962 00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:26.760 you also we got beef stuffed Parker House rolls before 963 00:43:26.800 --> 00:43:31.000 it as well. It was like short slow cooked, like 964 00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:36.440 braised short ribs inside a Parker House roll. Unreal. If 965 00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:38.079 you haven't been to Spital if you've been, if you're 966 00:43:38.079 --> 00:43:39.679 going to Dublin a point, go to Spidal Fields and 967 00:43:39.719 --> 00:43:43.719 also like just a good pub in general. The whole 968 00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:47.119 Amanda and I try to go to the like botanical 969 00:43:47.119 --> 00:43:49.960 garden or whatever is closest wherever we go. We did 970 00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:52.719 it in Paris. Paris has like Luxembourg gardens and then 971 00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:54.800 we've done stuff like that. But in Dublin went to 972 00:43:54.800 --> 00:43:59.960 the Botanical garden, one of our favorites. It was massive gorge. 973 00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:02.599 They had like tons of different spots. They had a 974 00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:05.760 greenhouse full of palms from like South Africa and Africa 975 00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:11.480 and Australia. They had the cactie from the American Southwest. 976 00:44:11.519 --> 00:44:17.320 They had basically everything and people were awesome. I love Dublin. 977 00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:19.559 I liked Cork City a lot. It grew on me. 978 00:44:19.639 --> 00:44:23.000 It actually weirdly reminded me of San Francisco after a bit. Geographically, 979 00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:25.079 we didn't realize how hilly it was till we got 980 00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:30.320 into town and it basically straddles the River Lee. So 981 00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:32.360 we went into a few pubs along like the tourist area. 982 00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:33.960 We're like, all right, I feel like we've seen Cork City. 983 00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:36.840 And then we climbed Saint Patrick's Hill found a field 984 00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:39.480 which kind of reminds me of this park where near 985 00:44:39.519 --> 00:44:40.840 where I used to live in San Francisco, where you 986 00:44:40.840 --> 00:44:42.800 could see a ton of the city. I was like, oh, 987 00:44:42.840 --> 00:44:46.559 it's like twelve hills here with houses and schools and 988 00:44:46.559 --> 00:44:48.519 stuff on it. So I would have liked an extra 989 00:44:48.559 --> 00:44:50.360 day in Cork City compared to what we had. But 990 00:44:51.800 --> 00:44:55.800 Galway was amazing too, But yeah, Dublin was like really 991 00:44:55.960 --> 00:44:58.840 up ended my expectations. I was just expecting the pub culture, 992 00:44:59.079 --> 00:45:01.119 which was absolutely the and we had a blast with it. 993 00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:05.519 But so much good food, really cool people, walkable, easy 994 00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:07.840 to get around, they take care of every single like 995 00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:12.920 little park. So well, yeah, loved Ireland. Will absolutely go 996 00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:14.320 back nice. 997 00:45:14.400 --> 00:45:16.199 I have to check that out sometimes that like right 998 00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:19.920 off the coast of United Kingdom or Britain or England 999 00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:20.960 or island whatever. 1000 00:45:20.960 --> 00:45:23.559 That island is the island, okay, let me get this. 1001 00:45:24.079 --> 00:45:25.719 The island itself is. 1002 00:45:26.320 --> 00:45:31.239 Britain, okay, but the country England and Wales and Scotland 1003 00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:34.920 are all on that island, right correct, And then all 1004 00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:36.000 of that's the United Kingdom. 1005 00:45:36.760 --> 00:45:39.360 No, the United Kingdom also includes stuff like the Isle 1006 00:45:39.400 --> 00:45:43.079 of Man, which is I believe between Britain and Ireland 1007 00:45:43.400 --> 00:45:49.840 and Northern Ireland. So Northern Ireland is basically across from 1008 00:45:50.079 --> 00:45:53.000 like Glasgow in Scotland. I want to say, I might 1009 00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:55.360 be mixing up the latitudes there, but yeah. So Dublin's 1010 00:45:55.360 --> 00:45:57.760 on the east coast of Ireland. It looks at like 1011 00:45:57.880 --> 00:46:00.920 Liverpool basically if you're looking straight at the not that 1012 00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:02.840 you could see it at least I don't think you can, 1013 00:46:03.760 --> 00:46:06.960 but yeah, But then London is on the opposite side 1014 00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:12.159 of England looking at Mainland Europe like France. 1015 00:46:12.199 --> 00:46:15.360 I guess, so just not a crazy flight like you've 1016 00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:17.639 gone to England. It's probably it's pretty much. 1017 00:46:17.480 --> 00:46:20.239 Like that Dublin took. I mean, going coming back is 1018 00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:23.119 always a bit longer, but going there it was six hours. 1019 00:46:24.119 --> 00:46:26.719 They probably did it like five and a half, super 1020 00:46:26.800 --> 00:46:29.599 easy flight. And then Dublin itself. We got on the 1021 00:46:30.719 --> 00:46:33.320 Dublin's got it figured out. We got off the plane, 1022 00:46:34.719 --> 00:46:38.239 we got onto Dublin Express. It's the airport shuttle that 1023 00:46:38.239 --> 00:46:40.960 brings you to the city. Like the people in the 1024 00:46:41.000 --> 00:46:43.000 lines were like, hey, where are you staying in Dublin? 1025 00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:44.519 And I told them. They're like, okay. You can see 1026 00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:46.800 them doing like this, the mapping in their head. They're like, 1027 00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:48.000 all right, you want to get off at this stop, 1028 00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:50.519 off the seven eighty four, and there's three buses that 1029 00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:52.039 pull up, and you get on the seven eighty four 1030 00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:53.440 and you get off at the stop they told you 1031 00:46:53.480 --> 00:46:56.079 it's like fifteen minutes on a bus from the airport 1032 00:46:56.119 --> 00:46:57.559 to the city center. 1033 00:46:57.760 --> 00:46:58.199 Oh nice. 1034 00:46:58.239 --> 00:46:59.719 Yeah, it was awesome. And then on the way back, 1035 00:46:59.719 --> 00:47:02.239 saying like, okay, here's a bus you want to get on, 1036 00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:04.480 and they get you to the airport in like fifteen minutes. 1037 00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:08.079 Oh nice. Yeah, phenomenal. Not at all like any of 1038 00:47:08.119 --> 00:47:11.159 the airports near here in New York. 1039 00:47:11.719 --> 00:47:14.519 Yeah, dude, the airports suck. 1040 00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:19.000 We need to do a like a we should do 1041 00:47:19.039 --> 00:47:22.000 a like find an excuse to do a fire escape 1042 00:47:22.039 --> 00:47:24.599 Dublin meetup, and. 1043 00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:26.239 I want to just do another meetup period. That one 1044 00:47:26.280 --> 00:47:27.079 we did was great. 1045 00:47:27.159 --> 00:47:28.199 I think it was good. 1046 00:47:28.280 --> 00:47:29.320 We had a good time. 1047 00:47:29.639 --> 00:47:31.519 I think they're fun to do and you get to 1048 00:47:31.599 --> 00:47:34.440 like meet really interesting and like lovely people. 1049 00:47:34.599 --> 00:47:36.599 I think like that is a joy to do. 1050 00:47:36.639 --> 00:47:38.400 But I think it's always nice to try and do 1051 00:47:38.440 --> 00:47:40.280 one in an area where you wouldn't expect that you 1052 00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:40.880 could do it. 1053 00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:44.679 I think min Max does that quite well. Or there's 1054 00:47:44.719 --> 00:47:45.079 just be like. 1055 00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:48.079 We're in this wild down We're going to do a meetup, 1056 00:47:48.079 --> 00:47:50.440 And I think that that's a really lovely thing to 1057 00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:54.239 do for not just the listeners, but for everybody just 1058 00:47:54.280 --> 00:47:56.320 to be able to meet each other, right, Like listeners 1059 00:47:56.360 --> 00:47:59.519 want to meet other fans of the show too, so 1060 00:47:59.599 --> 00:48:00.920 that's really exciting to do. 1061 00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:01.559 Yeah. 1062 00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:04.159 I think it was Drew Scanalon and Patrick Klippik did 1063 00:48:04.199 --> 00:48:06.039 one in Raykovic when they went out there for Giant 1064 00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:07.679 Bomb many years ago, And like I do like the 1065 00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:09.559 idea of like, you know, fans in a place that 1066 00:48:09.599 --> 00:48:11.400 they would never expect that like, oh, these guys are 1067 00:48:11.400 --> 00:48:12.679 gonna have a meet up here like that that is 1068 00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:13.239 a fun thing. 1069 00:48:13.760 --> 00:48:17.519 Yeah, m hm, we should plan something. I'd about to 1070 00:48:17.559 --> 00:48:17.800 do it. 1071 00:48:17.960 --> 00:48:18.440 I would like that. 1072 00:48:18.440 --> 00:48:20.800 I don't want to drink catinup at this one, though. No. 1073 00:48:21.239 --> 00:48:22.519 I will be in New York in about a month, 1074 00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:24.159 so we should talk about that. Mike, all right, yeah, 1075 00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:26.440 let's do it very briefly. But I'd like to see you, 1076 00:48:26.559 --> 00:48:27.159 yeah for sure. 1077 00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:30.800 Right, you want to talk about video games? Yeah, okay. 1078 00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:33.800 Reviews are officially out for Death Stranding two. They have 1079 00:48:33.920 --> 00:48:36.159 been for some time. But Dan, you've been playing it 1080 00:48:36.199 --> 00:48:40.800 a lot. You went to Kojima Productions a couple months 1081 00:48:40.800 --> 00:48:43.079 ago at this point, played a lot of it September 1082 00:48:43.719 --> 00:48:45.199 a few months. Was it that long ago? 1083 00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:46.119 I thought so? 1084 00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:48.679 No, not at all. This was like two months ago 1085 00:48:48.719 --> 00:48:51.840 when you kept telling us that you were there, was it? 1086 00:48:51.920 --> 00:48:53.760 Oh yeah, it wasn't that long. What the fuck am 1087 00:48:53.760 --> 00:48:54.159 I thinking of? 1088 00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:54.679 I don't know. 1089 00:48:55.119 --> 00:48:57.559 No, September was the Nintendo Museum. No, yeah, I went 1090 00:48:57.559 --> 00:48:58.320 more recently too. 1091 00:48:58.440 --> 00:48:58.639 Yeah. 1092 00:48:58.719 --> 00:49:00.679 Yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, sorry, I get all these 1093 00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:01.519 cool trips in Japan. 1094 00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:03.360 Yeah, yeah, it was. 1095 00:49:03.760 --> 00:49:06.719 You're always confusing which time you're sucking at the teat 1096 00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:10.880 of these Diehionese developers. But tell us a little bit 1097 00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:12.400 about Death Stranding too. 1098 00:49:13.840 --> 00:49:15.960 I talked about a bit after I played my thirty 1099 00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:17.880 hour preview and I was in personal Academa. 1100 00:49:17.480 --> 00:49:19.960 Production thirty hours I did. 1101 00:49:20.039 --> 00:49:22.119 But you know the thing is, it's like I kind 1102 00:49:22.119 --> 00:49:23.400 of got the sense it would be this way when 1103 00:49:23.440 --> 00:49:25.239 I played it the first time. Is that like, all right, 1104 00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:27.280 it's Akadema game. There's a lot of talking, there's a 1105 00:49:27.280 --> 00:49:29.880 lot of cutscenes, and like you know, every time you 1106 00:49:29.880 --> 00:49:32.480 go back and deliver something, a holograms like there you saying, wow, 1107 00:49:32.559 --> 00:49:34.559 look at this, you really these diapers are in great condition. 1108 00:49:35.559 --> 00:49:37.239 And so I was able to skip through all that 1109 00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:39.440 this time. So I was able to in about I 1110 00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:41.920 would say, ten or twelve hours, get past or get 1111 00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:44.159 up to like the thirty hour mark or release that 1112 00:49:44.239 --> 00:49:47.079 level of progress. So burn through that pretty quick. And 1113 00:49:47.079 --> 00:49:49.639 also it's just a fun game to play. The mechanics 1114 00:49:49.639 --> 00:49:54.480 are great, so there really wasn't even an issue with 1115 00:49:54.519 --> 00:49:56.599 that of me being like, god, damn, I do this 1116 00:49:56.639 --> 00:49:58.199 all again. You know, a lot of games I would 1117 00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:02.079 not like that. But it's a tremendous game. It is fantastic. 1118 00:50:02.119 --> 00:50:05.840 It is this in blueprints easily for my Game of 1119 00:50:05.840 --> 00:50:08.639 the Year contender, for my personal number one. You know, 1120 00:50:08.719 --> 00:50:10.920 I haven't been desperating too. Yet I think I'm like 1121 00:50:11.039 --> 00:50:13.519 right at the end, my PlayStation thing says that I'm 1122 00:50:13.559 --> 00:50:16.639 like eighty something percent in right now. But it's just 1123 00:50:17.360 --> 00:50:20.119 in an industry where it's like, I don't know, when 1124 00:50:20.119 --> 00:50:21.960 you've played a lot of video games, a lot of 1125 00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:25.480 video games tend to do the same things, and you know, 1126 00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:28.440 some can incrementally make things better or different or whatever 1127 00:50:28.559 --> 00:50:31.800 push something forward, but it's rare that you're just constantly 1128 00:50:31.920 --> 00:50:35.239 surprised by something. And I do feel like with this game. 1129 00:50:35.599 --> 00:50:38.079 It's just there were so many times where I'd get 1130 00:50:38.119 --> 00:50:40.519 a higher porter rank with some you know guy, and 1131 00:50:40.559 --> 00:50:42.639 he'd be like, hey, check this out. I'm giving this 1132 00:50:42.679 --> 00:50:45.480 to you, and it's a rubber pizza that you can 1133 00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:46.960 use and it'll you can fold it up and put 1134 00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:49.000 it in your grenade pouch and you can throw pizzas 1135 00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:51.679 at guys now. And I'm like, oh, okay, I didn't 1136 00:50:51.719 --> 00:50:54.199 expect that, or you know, just a fun little moment 1137 00:50:54.199 --> 00:50:54.760 with doll Man. 1138 00:50:55.199 --> 00:50:55.400 You know. 1139 00:50:55.719 --> 00:50:57.559 By the way, I'm not going to spoil a huge 1140 00:50:57.559 --> 00:50:59.599 story points here, but like, if you've worried about like 1141 00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:02.119 mechanics and items and things like that, I will probably 1142 00:51:02.119 --> 00:51:04.159 be talking about that type of stuff or little surprises 1143 00:51:05.599 --> 00:51:07.960 just there's it is just dripping with personality, and I 1144 00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:09.559 can't help but think when I play it that like 1145 00:51:09.920 --> 00:51:13.679 it's using that Decima engine that Horizon uses, and Horizon 1146 00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:16.480 Horizon's a great example of the thing I was talking 1147 00:51:16.519 --> 00:51:19.119 about before of like, look, it's a good game, but 1148 00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:22.239 it's so just like yeah, on a technical level, on 1149 00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:24.519 so many like obviously so many talent people worked on this, 1150 00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:26.800 but it's not surprising me in any way. You know, 1151 00:51:26.880 --> 00:51:28.719 when I play through a Horizon game, it's like, yeah, okay, 1152 00:51:28.719 --> 00:51:31.000 this is all very impressive, but this sure is a 1153 00:51:31.039 --> 00:51:33.400 video game. This is an open world video game. This 1154 00:51:33.480 --> 00:51:36.239 is using that incredible technology and also just having this 1155 00:51:36.440 --> 00:51:41.519 like really weird, uncompromising vision of what Kajema wants this 1156 00:51:41.519 --> 00:51:43.480 thing to be, which is what he's always done. And 1157 00:51:43.559 --> 00:51:46.360 it is surprising me all the time. And you know, 1158 00:51:46.400 --> 00:51:49.079 even fifty hours in on this run, you know, plus 1159 00:51:49.159 --> 00:51:51.559 the thirty before, it is just every once day I'll 1160 00:51:51.599 --> 00:51:53.639 get a new item and like, oh, it's a fucking 1161 00:51:53.880 --> 00:51:57.239 cyber coffin that I can surf on and I can 1162 00:51:57.360 --> 00:52:00.920 like accelerate. So I'm basically like have a noboard basically 1163 00:52:01.039 --> 00:52:03.000 made out of a coffin that I can surf on 1164 00:52:03.119 --> 00:52:05.679 up these mountains and stuff and carry stuff, and I 1165 00:52:05.719 --> 00:52:07.800 can use it to like jump into if I want 1166 00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:09.400 to do stealthy stuff, and it'll take me into the 1167 00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:11.239 tar under the ground and then I can stun bomb 1168 00:52:11.239 --> 00:52:13.039 and come out and kill guys, and just there's just 1169 00:52:13.039 --> 00:52:17.519 so many weird items and like aesthetic pieces and stuff 1170 00:52:17.519 --> 00:52:20.679 like that that you can equip. There's just a lot 1171 00:52:20.679 --> 00:52:22.400 of surprises in this game. In fact, I played it 1172 00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:25.320 on my birthday. I played it on the morning of 1173 00:52:25.360 --> 00:52:26.960 my birthday. I went down it got a couple hours 1174 00:52:26.960 --> 00:52:30.960 for work, and you frequently go back to the Magell 1175 00:52:31.039 --> 00:52:33.199 and your home ship, and I went in there and 1176 00:52:33.239 --> 00:52:35.440 instead of taking me to the private room, Sam was 1177 00:52:35.519 --> 00:52:37.280 kind of like he walked into the bridge and I 1178 00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:39.800 saw it was all dark, and el Fanning's character was 1179 00:52:39.800 --> 00:52:41.440 like ducking behind a chair, and I was like, what 1180 00:52:41.480 --> 00:52:43.960 the fuck is going on here? And then Dollman, the 1181 00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:46.559 fucking puppet drops down from the ceiling and he's like 1182 00:52:46.719 --> 00:52:49.480 happy birthday, and I was like what, And all of 1183 00:52:49.480 --> 00:52:52.199 a sudden, all the lights come on. Fucking Norman Ritas 1184 00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:55.480 and George Miller, the director of Mad Max, and fucking 1185 00:52:55.920 --> 00:52:58.000 all these actions and stuff like lay us dud and 1186 00:52:58.000 --> 00:53:00.880 everyone's coming out looking at the camera, just breaking the 1187 00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:03.920 fourth wall with confetti cannons and they shot him at 1188 00:53:03.960 --> 00:53:07.280 the camera, which is a little insensitive considering SCons my 1189 00:53:07.320 --> 00:53:10.360 recent history. Yeah, and the fucking puppet and they sang 1190 00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:13.039 happy birthday to me and like totally breaking the fourth wall. 1191 00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:15.719 The villain Troy Baker Higgs comes out with a fucking 1192 00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:18.119 pizza and he's like walking out with a pizza looking 1193 00:53:18.159 --> 00:53:22.239 at the camera like happy birthday. Here's someone like shows 1194 00:53:22.239 --> 00:53:25.119 me a pizza. And then and then the fucking mannequin 1195 00:53:25.280 --> 00:53:27.320 robot pops up and spills the pizza and they're like 1196 00:53:27.320 --> 00:53:30.519 god damn it. And it's just this silly, silly little 1197 00:53:30.559 --> 00:53:32.320 scene that I don't know if anyone else has really 1198 00:53:32.320 --> 00:53:33.719 seen this, because I don't know they're playing it on 1199 00:53:33.719 --> 00:53:36.800 their birthday pre released like I was. But I was 1200 00:53:36.840 --> 00:53:39.320 just like smiling, like, goddamn it, what a funny little thing. 1201 00:53:39.400 --> 00:53:41.280 I just did not see this coming at all. And 1202 00:53:41.320 --> 00:53:44.440 it's just that personality is all over this fucking game, 1203 00:53:44.599 --> 00:53:47.760 on top of it just being a top tier open 1204 00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:50.079 world action game to play with anything that like you 1205 00:53:50.159 --> 00:53:52.039 might have liked from the first game. The delivery stuff 1206 00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:53.920 is all very fun and everything again, but it's just 1207 00:53:53.960 --> 00:53:57.719 like it's more of a big fun toy sandbox than ever, 1208 00:53:58.760 --> 00:54:00.440 and I adore it. I think it's I think it's 1209 00:54:00.440 --> 00:54:02.280 fucking great a narrative. 1210 00:54:02.559 --> 00:54:05.679 If it was that, I asked, well, no, no, no, sorry, continue. 1211 00:54:05.719 --> 00:54:07.639 Oh I'm just gonna say, like, if look the narrative, 1212 00:54:07.800 --> 00:54:10.079 it's nonsense, Like I never thought that was the strongest 1213 00:54:10.119 --> 00:54:11.960 point of the first game, where it's just like, look, 1214 00:54:12.000 --> 00:54:14.239 this is a bunch of just terms and weird ideas 1215 00:54:14.239 --> 00:54:17.159 and things like that don't quite follow everything. I'm impressed 1216 00:54:17.199 --> 00:54:20.639 by the technical stuff, but whatever, It's better this time 1217 00:54:20.679 --> 00:54:22.920 just because there's way more scenes of like this group 1218 00:54:23.079 --> 00:54:25.000 of like this weirdos on your ship that are all 1219 00:54:25.079 --> 00:54:27.159 kind of like talking to each other and befriending each 1220 00:54:27.199 --> 00:54:29.400 other and kind of like camaraderie type stuff. So it 1221 00:54:29.480 --> 00:54:31.760 is better with that stuff this time around. But I 1222 00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:34.400 would not go in expecting this to be like, look, 1223 00:54:34.519 --> 00:54:37.159 Metal Gear felt like nonsense to a lot of people, 1224 00:54:37.159 --> 00:54:39.360 but like there actually was kind of this like epic 1225 00:54:39.400 --> 00:54:43.320 tale being told throughout those games. This is the needles 1226 00:54:43.320 --> 00:54:45.400 more on the side of nonsense on this one, but 1227 00:54:45.480 --> 00:54:48.679 it's still whenever it cuts thee started, I was never like, uh, 1228 00:54:48.719 --> 00:54:52.159 here we go again. It's just nonsense. But it's fun 1229 00:54:52.159 --> 00:54:53.000 to watch, you know. 1230 00:54:53.079 --> 00:54:55.880 Yeah, I was gonna say the it was the emerging gameplay, 1231 00:54:55.960 --> 00:54:58.760 like the systems, kind of like you finding the story 1232 00:54:58.760 --> 00:55:00.280 in the first game, that was to me the most 1233 00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:04.159 entertaining part, And this sounds like it's leaning even harder 1234 00:55:04.199 --> 00:55:07.239 into like open world immersive sim kind of shit, like 1235 00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:08.880 with different tools to be playing around with. 1236 00:55:09.320 --> 00:55:11.039 Yeah, there are just so many times that like, I'm 1237 00:55:11.079 --> 00:55:13.400 trying to do something, you know, I have so many 1238 00:55:13.400 --> 00:55:15.519 tools at my disposal, and you know, you'll approach a 1239 00:55:15.559 --> 00:55:18.719 bandit base or something and you'll have an idea of like, Okay, 1240 00:55:18.719 --> 00:55:20.079 what if I like an immersive sim, you know, like 1241 00:55:20.079 --> 00:55:22.440 a Dishonored or something. You'll okay, well, here's my plan 1242 00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:24.760 with this, and it will inevitably go awry at least 1243 00:55:24.840 --> 00:55:26.519 fear me. And then you've got to kind of like 1244 00:55:26.920 --> 00:55:28.559 figure out a way around this. And they give you 1245 00:55:28.599 --> 00:55:32.320 so many tools to make it silly and fun and exciting. 1246 00:55:33.400 --> 00:55:36.880 I would recommend watching the quick look that we recorded 1247 00:55:36.880 --> 00:55:39.239 today should be up definitely by the time this podcast 1248 00:55:39.239 --> 00:55:41.880 comes out for Giant Bomb. Showed off a lot there's 1249 00:55:41.880 --> 00:55:43.480 a lot of those moments where I'm like trying one 1250 00:55:43.480 --> 00:55:45.119 thing and I have to switch to another. I also 1251 00:55:45.159 --> 00:55:47.159 showed off a really cool kind of like boss battle 1252 00:55:47.239 --> 00:55:48.800 lead up at the end of the quick look. 1253 00:55:50.039 --> 00:55:50.519 It's just a. 1254 00:55:50.480 --> 00:55:55.000 Really battles Like are they also about like utilizing mechanics. 1255 00:55:54.480 --> 00:55:56.960 Or a lot of them, Like some of them are 1256 00:55:57.000 --> 00:55:58.800 similar to the ones in the first game where it's 1257 00:55:58.840 --> 00:56:00.880 like you're just in the over world and there's just 1258 00:56:00.920 --> 00:56:02.840 a bunch of fucking tar everywhere and it's like a 1259 00:56:02.840 --> 00:56:05.039 big robot or a BT or something and you're shooting 1260 00:56:05.079 --> 00:56:07.639 weak spots. Some of them are like that, and then 1261 00:56:07.679 --> 00:56:09.800 some of them are a little more interesting. We're in 1262 00:56:09.840 --> 00:56:11.480 the first game. I had the Mads Mickelson one, so 1263 00:56:11.480 --> 00:56:13.920 where it was kind of removed a bit from Yeah, 1264 00:56:13.920 --> 00:56:15.519 I was trench warfare. It was like different wars. It 1265 00:56:15.599 --> 00:56:17.280 was like this was World War One, this one's Vietnam, 1266 00:56:17.360 --> 00:56:19.480 this one's you know this or this or that. There 1267 00:56:19.559 --> 00:56:21.519 is a different character. You've seen him in the trailers. 1268 00:56:21.519 --> 00:56:25.000 It's the solid snack guy Neil, and you know he's 1269 00:56:25.039 --> 00:56:27.199 a big focus of some of these flashbacks and story 1270 00:56:27.239 --> 00:56:29.199 things this time, and like he kind of has that 1271 00:56:29.199 --> 00:56:32.280 Mad's Michelson roll this time of like, oh, Okay, I'm 1272 00:56:32.280 --> 00:56:34.239 in a different place. What is this place? Who is 1273 00:56:34.280 --> 00:56:37.559 this guy? And that's still kind of unfolding where I'm 1274 00:56:37.559 --> 00:56:39.400 at in the game now, and it's it's intriguing, but 1275 00:56:39.480 --> 00:56:42.920 you know, it's all still just very abstract feeling. But 1276 00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:46.480 it's very very cool the way everything is directed and presented. 1277 00:56:46.920 --> 00:56:49.800 I asked this as someone who really liked the excruciating 1278 00:56:49.840 --> 00:56:53.440 minuchhe of like shifting my balance just so to not 1279 00:56:53.599 --> 00:56:56.239 topple stuff. I know a lot of people found the 1280 00:56:57.280 --> 00:56:59.719 on ramp of that to be too long in the 1281 00:56:59.719 --> 00:57:01.920 first that's stranding to get to the actual really cool 1282 00:57:01.960 --> 00:57:04.280 action stuff where you see everything kind of come together. 1283 00:57:04.760 --> 00:57:06.480 Does it get there more quickly in this game or 1284 00:57:06.519 --> 00:57:08.480 is it still pretty plotting early on. 1285 00:57:08.159 --> 00:57:09.000 One thousand percent? 1286 00:57:09.199 --> 00:57:09.519 It is. 1287 00:57:09.960 --> 00:57:11.639 That is one of the big strengths of this game. 1288 00:57:11.679 --> 00:57:13.199 Like I've had a lot of people ask me, like, 1289 00:57:13.440 --> 00:57:14.920 if I didn't play the first one, or I didn't 1290 00:57:14.920 --> 00:57:16.800 love the first one, you know, can I just jump 1291 00:57:16.840 --> 00:57:18.920 into this? And I think, yeah, I tell people, like 1292 00:57:19.000 --> 00:57:21.199 watch a explainer video, watch like some twenty minute thing 1293 00:57:21.239 --> 00:57:23.000 on YouTube. It kind of a basic idea of it, 1294 00:57:23.639 --> 00:57:26.239 and this one drops you in really really quick. I 1295 00:57:26.280 --> 00:57:28.360 remember the first one. There's a lot of like Norman 1296 00:57:28.440 --> 00:57:30.480 Radius crying in the rain and meeting layas to do 1297 00:57:30.599 --> 00:57:32.320 and all this stuff and trying to like a lot 1298 00:57:32.360 --> 00:57:35.159 of exposition about what time fall rain is and the 1299 00:57:35.239 --> 00:57:38.400 Chiro network and all this. It's this kind of just 1300 00:57:38.440 --> 00:57:40.199 gets into it, like right at the beginning, it's just like, hey, 1301 00:57:40.199 --> 00:57:42.159 you're with your baby, get back home. And then there's 1302 00:57:42.199 --> 00:57:45.000 just a bunch of really cool you know, music and avalanches, 1303 00:57:45.119 --> 00:57:47.679 and you know, there's a lot more like weather effects 1304 00:57:47.679 --> 00:57:51.480 and windstorms and earthquakes and stuff this time around, So 1305 00:57:51.559 --> 00:57:53.760 it gets into it much much quicker. 1306 00:57:54.159 --> 00:57:58.400 Oh yeah, someone was telling me this game's weather effects. 1307 00:57:58.519 --> 00:58:00.719 It does a bunch of different cool weather effects that 1308 00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:04.079 are feeling like actually like next gen or of like 1309 00:58:05.239 --> 00:58:06.960 they didn't expand because I told them not to tell 1310 00:58:07.000 --> 00:58:09.199 me too much, but they said there's some stuff it's 1311 00:58:09.199 --> 00:58:12.599 doing with weather that actually makes it feel like new. Yeah. 1312 00:58:12.639 --> 00:58:14.360 I mean a lot of games have had like weather 1313 00:58:14.400 --> 00:58:16.280 cycles where it's like okay, now it's raining. Now it's 1314 00:58:16.360 --> 00:58:18.639 not this one. Like there are times you're going across 1315 00:58:18.679 --> 00:58:20.599 a desert, and it's not like a scripted thing or whatever. 1316 00:58:20.639 --> 00:58:22.239 It's just like, hey, I'm trying to the side mission 1317 00:58:22.239 --> 00:58:24.320 out there in the desert. And you're walking and you're like, hey, 1318 00:58:24.320 --> 00:58:26.320 I'm being fine. I got in a battery. I'll be okay, 1319 00:58:26.320 --> 00:58:28.920 I got enough stamina. And then you'll see, like from 1320 00:58:29.039 --> 00:58:31.800 way far in the distance, like this red sandstorm coming 1321 00:58:31.840 --> 00:58:34.119 in your way, and you'll like hear Norman readers be like, 1322 00:58:34.239 --> 00:58:36.360 oh that doesn't look good. It's like, oh shit, and 1323 00:58:36.440 --> 00:58:37.920 like so you're kind of like looking at your map, 1324 00:58:37.960 --> 00:58:40.760 like I'm still about six hundred meters from there, and 1325 00:58:40.800 --> 00:58:42.800 that looks like a big fucking storm coming this way, 1326 00:58:42.840 --> 00:58:45.840 and before you know what, just everything's red and there's lightning, 1327 00:58:45.920 --> 00:58:47.440 and it's just like fuck. You're just trying to like, 1328 00:58:47.440 --> 00:58:50.039 you know, get to the place you're delivering things. Could 1329 00:58:50.039 --> 00:58:53.199 you get in a lot of cyber coffin for shelter. Well, 1330 00:58:53.239 --> 00:58:56.199 this here's the thing, Mike. The cyber coffin only works 1331 00:58:56.719 --> 00:58:58.800 on the when you're on the chiral network. So if 1332 00:58:58.800 --> 00:59:01.480 you're delivering to a place that you've attack too yet, 1333 00:59:01.679 --> 00:59:04.199 you can't utilize the tar currents on your coffin board. 1334 00:59:04.280 --> 00:59:07.800 I'm embarrassed, Are there anyway? Merry? 1335 00:59:07.840 --> 00:59:10.800 Game of the Year is the new biomes or like 1336 00:59:10.920 --> 00:59:13.559 things that are you finder, like fast is a larger world? 1337 00:59:13.880 --> 00:59:15.920 Is Mexico in Australia a biome? 1338 00:59:18.800 --> 00:59:20.280 Well Australia has every biome. 1339 00:59:20.800 --> 00:59:23.440 Yeah, Mexico from Mexico and Australia. 1340 00:59:24.039 --> 00:59:27.519 Oh my god, so Australia. It's a lot of yeah, 1341 00:59:27.559 --> 00:59:29.880 so oh okay. So destreating one was. 1342 00:59:29.880 --> 00:59:31.920 Like America, You're connecting America. 1343 00:59:33.159 --> 00:59:35.599 The first section of the game that like ended up 1344 00:59:35.599 --> 00:59:38.800 feeling the prologue after was like DC. 1345 00:59:38.840 --> 00:59:41.199 To You're starting on the East Coast and then there's 1346 00:59:41.239 --> 00:59:44.119 that huge open thing and it's like Midwest. 1347 00:59:43.880 --> 00:59:46.079 The big lake in the center. Yeah, and then lake 1348 00:59:46.679 --> 00:59:51.039 yeah yeah, and then you get across over the. 1349 00:59:49.719 --> 00:59:52.480 The Rockies and stuff. Yeah yeah, it's similar. So yeah, 1350 00:59:52.480 --> 00:59:54.960 the first like i'd say, like eight hours is Mexico 1351 00:59:55.280 --> 00:59:57.800 and then you travel via the plate gate to Australia. 1352 00:59:58.400 --> 01:00:02.800 Play play o K it's the tectonic plates or something 1353 01:00:02.960 --> 01:00:05.119 in the chiral network make a big gate and then 1354 01:00:05.199 --> 01:00:07.719 like these crazy monk cult guys have a whole ritual 1355 01:00:07.760 --> 01:00:09.360 around it, and then if you walk through it, you 1356 01:00:09.440 --> 01:00:11.320 kind of go through a LSD trip and then you 1357 01:00:11.360 --> 01:00:12.960 wind up in Australia. 1358 01:00:13.119 --> 01:00:16.000 Yeah. Yeah, I have this game downloaded right now and 1359 01:00:16.039 --> 01:00:18.719 I'm fucking ready to go. 1360 01:00:19.199 --> 01:00:21.960 It's it has a very strong start. I think, like, like, 1361 01:00:22.000 --> 01:00:23.639 you know, so much of it is just that Kajima 1362 01:00:23.639 --> 01:00:26.000 factor and like the music and everything, and right at 1363 01:00:26.039 --> 01:00:27.679 the beginning when you're just kind of walking over these 1364 01:00:27.679 --> 01:00:30.000 mountains and it's you know, the rocks are tumbling down, 1365 01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:31.840 it's playing this wood Kid song and it's just like, 1366 01:00:32.159 --> 01:00:34.599 oh boy, no one really does it quite like this, 1367 01:00:34.719 --> 01:00:34.880 you know. 1368 01:00:35.039 --> 01:00:37.440 Yeah, people did really like the music in the first one. 1369 01:00:37.480 --> 01:00:40.119 In fact, there were bands discovered in the first one. 1370 01:00:40.320 --> 01:00:41.519 Low Roar was a big one. 1371 01:00:41.840 --> 01:00:43.280 Yeah, Sick is going to be a big one in 1372 01:00:43.320 --> 01:00:44.000 this as well. 1373 01:00:44.119 --> 01:00:47.159 Helen Darren's like step son, didn't he put the sound? 1374 01:00:47.199 --> 01:00:48.119 Yeah he did a lot of it. 1375 01:00:48.280 --> 01:00:51.320 Yeah for the first one. Yeah, this one has fucking 1376 01:00:51.760 --> 01:00:53.760 awesome music and it's all like it's no one I've 1377 01:00:53.760 --> 01:00:56.000 heard of before. But now I'm like, shit, yeah, okay, 1378 01:00:56.039 --> 01:00:58.559 some of this Woodkid stuff is really good and it's 1379 01:00:58.559 --> 01:01:01.599 all extremely fitting and it's a really good game to 1380 01:01:01.719 --> 01:01:03.159 just turn off all the lights and get a little 1381 01:01:03.199 --> 01:01:07.119 high and just sink into And yeah, I think it 1382 01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:10.039 will be polarizing to some, but I think it's gonna 1383 01:01:10.039 --> 01:01:11.840 be less so than the first time because, like, people 1384 01:01:11.920 --> 01:01:13.920 kind of know what the deal is with death stranding now, 1385 01:01:14.119 --> 01:01:17.679 and this isn't reinventing the wheel, it's just doing it 1386 01:01:17.719 --> 01:01:18.400 all a lot better. 1387 01:01:18.440 --> 01:01:20.000 I think, do you need to play the first one 1388 01:01:20.039 --> 01:01:21.000 to play the second one? 1389 01:01:21.199 --> 01:01:22.679 I don't think you do. I'd say just watch the 1390 01:01:22.679 --> 01:01:26.719 explainer and uh get in. I mean in a perfect world, sure, 1391 01:01:26.800 --> 01:01:28.480 but like not everyone can play through a fifty to 1392 01:01:28.480 --> 01:01:29.239 sixty hour game. 1393 01:01:29.440 --> 01:01:31.599 Will you understand the story if you haven't played the 1394 01:01:31.599 --> 01:01:32.039 first one? 1395 01:01:32.119 --> 01:01:35.440 You're not going to understand a story if you have. Yeah, yeah, 1396 01:01:35.440 --> 01:01:37.480 I was gonna say, Dan, like I don't. 1397 01:01:38.039 --> 01:01:40.480 Hello's heard we're talking about death stranding. 1398 01:01:40.599 --> 01:01:40.800 Yeah? 1399 01:01:40.880 --> 01:01:41.360 Yeah. 1400 01:01:41.599 --> 01:01:45.119 Did you tell him about the rubber pizza? Yeah? Do 1401 01:01:45.159 --> 01:01:47.440 you tell him about the gay mice? Well? 1402 01:01:48.519 --> 01:01:50.719 Well no, the pizza stuff. You know, you learn pizza 1403 01:01:50.760 --> 01:01:52.639 kun do. I helped the man open up his pizza 1404 01:01:53.119 --> 01:01:56.239 chef thing in Australia and he taught me pizza coun do, 1405 01:01:56.679 --> 01:02:00.400 so I can now do like spinning psycho crushers pizza 1406 01:02:00.440 --> 01:02:02.840 dough flying out of me and Whirlwind kicks with pizza 1407 01:02:02.880 --> 01:02:05.119 dough and now the rubber pizza. Yeah, you got to 1408 01:02:05.119 --> 01:02:06.960 like get the balance perfect and you throw a fucking 1409 01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:09.000 pizza at a ghost mech and you're good to go. 1410 01:02:10.119 --> 01:02:11.920 Sounds it's a good video game. 1411 01:02:12.000 --> 01:02:15.599 It sounds I'm excited because, like, just like a review 1412 01:02:16.159 --> 01:02:22.360 that's Stranding one got so death Stranding one. I love 1413 01:02:23.119 --> 01:02:25.480 the like slow ramp up to all the really cool 1414 01:02:25.519 --> 01:02:27.840 shit when like bandits are chasing you and you're using 1415 01:02:27.840 --> 01:02:29.800 all the tools at your disposal and then you're like 1416 01:02:29.840 --> 01:02:31.239 trying to figure out how the fuck to get across 1417 01:02:31.239 --> 01:02:34.320 a ravine and someone left a ladder for you at 1418 01:02:34.320 --> 01:02:37.599 the perfect moment. But like when I was recommending it 1419 01:02:37.639 --> 01:02:39.639 to people, I was like, eh, it's really slow going. 1420 01:02:39.679 --> 01:02:41.599 I don't know if it's worth like diving into the 1421 01:02:41.679 --> 01:02:43.440 fact that they get to it more quickly. Now to 1422 01:02:43.519 --> 01:02:48.239 that really cool overlapping system emerging gameplay scenarios is exciting, and. 1423 01:02:48.480 --> 01:02:50.760 He just goes so full Kajima. It's just like, Okay, 1424 01:02:50.760 --> 01:02:52.559 I went to this weapons factory to pick something up 1425 01:02:52.599 --> 01:02:55.519 and oops, Okay, Troy Baker pops up in a red 1426 01:02:55.559 --> 01:02:57.760 coffin from the ground and he's got clown makeup and 1427 01:02:57.800 --> 01:03:00.840 a robot suit and he's quoting talking Heads Lee while 1428 01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:03.719 playing a like weaponized guitar at me that shoots light 1429 01:03:03.760 --> 01:03:05.000 and bolts, and it's yeah. 1430 01:03:04.920 --> 01:03:06.159 There's talking Heads involved. 1431 01:03:06.400 --> 01:03:07.920 Yeah, it doesn't think it's in the trailers, like same 1432 01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:08.559 as it ever was. 1433 01:03:08.719 --> 01:03:11.719 Like yeah, oh my god. Yeah, I've like purposely not 1434 01:03:11.719 --> 01:03:13.920 watched trailer stuff as much as I can. Ye, my 1435 01:03:13.960 --> 01:03:16.760 favorite fan of all time. I know. I just got 1436 01:03:16.840 --> 01:03:20.559 David Burn tickets for New York on October October tenth 1437 01:03:20.679 --> 01:03:22.039 or something. We're going to see him in some of 1438 01:03:22.039 --> 01:03:26.039 the people he played with for American Utopia. But I 1439 01:03:26.079 --> 01:03:29.519 can't wait to see Troy Baker doing imagine if they 1440 01:03:29.519 --> 01:03:30.760 did the Giant suit dance. 1441 01:03:31.320 --> 01:03:35.079 It just Higgs has this giants. Yeah. Yeah, it's just 1442 01:03:35.119 --> 01:03:37.760 a fucking cool game. I really love it and I'm 1443 01:03:37.800 --> 01:03:39.880 really glad I gave it another shot and that we 1444 01:03:39.920 --> 01:03:41.960 gave it Game of the Year for the Director's cut, 1445 01:03:42.039 --> 01:03:44.480 and we'll do it again for On the Beach this year. 1446 01:03:44.559 --> 01:03:45.199 Yeah, I can't wait. 1447 01:03:46.119 --> 01:03:49.960 DEAs Stranding Banansa, Mary, I'll. 1448 01:03:49.840 --> 01:03:52.000 Ask about your games. I'm gonna I want to talk 1449 01:03:52.400 --> 01:03:55.320 a little bit more about Expedition thirty three, even if 1450 01:03:55.320 --> 01:03:58.719 it kills us. The more I play that game, the 1451 01:03:58.760 --> 01:04:01.199 more I'm really liking it a lot, And that game 1452 01:04:01.719 --> 01:04:04.039 starts off extremely The fact that that game starts so 1453 01:04:04.119 --> 01:04:07.199 strong and just keeps getting better generally speaking throughout it 1454 01:04:07.239 --> 01:04:09.880 despite my hang ups, no mini map is still annoying 1455 01:04:09.920 --> 01:04:13.599 despite the lore reason for it. I get it. There 1456 01:04:13.599 --> 01:04:18.320 are still some points where I do think they overwhelm 1457 01:04:18.400 --> 01:04:20.360 you with too many new items to mess around with, 1458 01:04:20.440 --> 01:04:22.079 but I guess I can't complain about that because the 1459 01:04:22.119 --> 01:04:26.159 picto's and the way that those interact with the weapons 1460 01:04:26.199 --> 01:04:29.880 you're getting and the weapon upgrade system. Everything just comes 1461 01:04:29.880 --> 01:04:31.719 together so well in that game, And there are several 1462 01:04:31.760 --> 01:04:34.519 things that have really started to impress me that I appreciate. 1463 01:04:35.000 --> 01:04:38.760 For one, the game is pretty content to let you 1464 01:04:38.840 --> 01:04:41.079 just fly through if you're not interested in talking to 1465 01:04:41.159 --> 01:04:44.039 every town's person and getting the lore dump from them. 1466 01:04:44.480 --> 01:04:46.320 Really okay, however. 1467 01:04:46.079 --> 01:04:48.400 Oh yeah, like the well that was actually a complain 1468 01:04:48.440 --> 01:04:50.000 of mine the very beginning of the game, when they're 1469 01:04:50.039 --> 01:04:51.920 setting up this thing called the Gomage, which is the 1470 01:04:52.039 --> 01:04:55.840 central conceit to the story that makes it work. If 1471 01:04:55.880 --> 01:04:57.679 you're not talking to everybody on the way to that, 1472 01:04:57.679 --> 01:04:59.440 and they do not make you There are some they're 1473 01:04:59.480 --> 01:05:01.880 like two two main characters they make you talk to, 1474 01:05:02.119 --> 01:05:04.360 but there are a lot of side characters you could 1475 01:05:04.400 --> 01:05:06.280 talk to that would say like, oh, it's the gomage. 1476 01:05:06.280 --> 01:05:08.360 It happens every year. It's always scary, but we've just 1477 01:05:08.679 --> 01:05:10.360 you know, it's kind of a fact of life. It's just, 1478 01:05:10.440 --> 01:05:12.480 you know, deaths inevitable. Why freak out if you're gonna 1479 01:05:12.480 --> 01:05:14.440 die at thirty three as opposed to fifty five whatever. 1480 01:05:15.280 --> 01:05:17.320 They don't force you into talking to any of these people, see, 1481 01:05:17.320 --> 01:05:18.920 you can just kind of breeze through it. I get 1482 01:05:18.960 --> 01:05:20.159 a lot out of talking to a few of them, 1483 01:05:20.239 --> 01:05:22.320 much like you would in a Zelda game. It's like, oh, 1484 01:05:22.440 --> 01:05:24.519 they just told me something that's actually useful about this 1485 01:05:24.599 --> 01:05:28.840 item that I found it's not. And also the they're 1486 01:05:28.880 --> 01:05:30.559 pretty brief most of the time when I talk to 1487 01:05:30.559 --> 01:05:35.760 these people. I appreciate that Sandlands Sandfall, the studio is 1488 01:05:35.800 --> 01:05:39.119 not forcing me to but if I want the lore, 1489 01:05:39.239 --> 01:05:41.199 like I want to learn more about gesturals, these weird 1490 01:05:42.760 --> 01:05:48.880 Kokiri esque woodland creatures than I can. But I also 1491 01:05:48.960 --> 01:05:54.239 do think that the like blend of that dark soul's 1492 01:05:54.239 --> 01:06:00.480 pattern recognition with the turn based tactics. They do really 1493 01:06:00.480 --> 01:06:04.039 cool stuff with that throughout the game. And also, I 1494 01:06:04.079 --> 01:06:07.679 believe I have every character now possible that I can. 1495 01:06:07.719 --> 01:06:09.199 You can only have three in a fight at once, 1496 01:06:09.239 --> 01:06:12.400 but you can have like five. I believe in the 1497 01:06:12.400 --> 01:06:14.519 game there might be one more. I'm not sure I 1498 01:06:14.519 --> 01:06:18.000 have five. Every single character feels like they were pulled 1499 01:06:18.039 --> 01:06:22.719 from a different RPG, like they all they all function 1500 01:06:22.960 --> 01:06:26.119 so differently that it's like you're using a whole new 1501 01:06:26.159 --> 01:06:29.599 combat system with each one. I got the character cl 1502 01:06:30.400 --> 01:06:33.159 she has the scythe and the cards. She's kind of 1503 01:06:33.199 --> 01:06:37.599 like Gambit from X Men. She her system. It took 1504 01:06:37.599 --> 01:06:39.280 me a while to wrap my head around because you're 1505 01:06:39.519 --> 01:06:44.880 trying to gain cards basically, but gaining them will give 1506 01:06:44.920 --> 01:06:47.599 you sun points, but then spending them will give you 1507 01:06:47.679 --> 01:06:49.559 moon points, and you kind of want to keep those 1508 01:06:49.639 --> 01:06:52.320 balanced because then you stay in Twilight, which is when 1509 01:06:52.360 --> 01:06:56.480 she just does like plus fifty percent damage, so you're 1510 01:06:56.519 --> 01:06:59.079 kind of balancing that stuff out as her. But then 1511 01:06:59.119 --> 01:07:02.000 you go back to Mile and she's all about different 1512 01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:07.039 stances like neo or whatever, and Okay, I want to 1513 01:07:07.039 --> 01:07:08.480 be in defensive stance so I can use the thing 1514 01:07:08.480 --> 01:07:10.199 where the sword shoots up out of the ground like 1515 01:07:10.280 --> 01:07:12.400 up their ass, and then that'll bring me back into 1516 01:07:12.440 --> 01:07:15.239 virtuoso stance, where with this particular sword I do plus 1517 01:07:15.280 --> 01:07:17.800 two hundred percent damage. The sword just happens to be 1518 01:07:17.840 --> 01:07:21.039 a katana with like fucking purple laser lights down the middle. 1519 01:07:21.639 --> 01:07:23.480 But then if I go into offensive stance, I can 1520 01:07:23.480 --> 01:07:27.039 do fire damage and then oh right, lun her attacks. 1521 01:07:27.119 --> 01:07:30.719 This ice attack will do more damage if the character's 1522 01:07:30.760 --> 01:07:34.639 already on fire, and then if I hit a flaming 1523 01:07:34.760 --> 01:07:39.239 character with the ice, I'll generate an earth tint, which 1524 01:07:39.239 --> 01:07:41.599 will then make this fire attack more powerful against all 1525 01:07:41.639 --> 01:07:44.079 the enemies. So it's like the way that they synergize 1526 01:07:44.199 --> 01:07:48.679 such vastly different characters is incredibly impressive. That's not even 1527 01:07:48.719 --> 01:07:50.679 to mention the fact that if you are good enough 1528 01:07:50.719 --> 01:07:54.360 at timing the peries, the jumps, the counter attacks, the dodges, 1529 01:07:55.480 --> 01:08:00.760 much like you could ostensibly beat Marget in elden Ring 1530 01:08:00.840 --> 01:08:04.159 with a level one character, if you're that good, you 1531 01:08:04.199 --> 01:08:06.639 can beat a lot of these bosses mini bosses before 1532 01:08:06.679 --> 01:08:10.119 you're technically ready. But much like something like elden Ring, 1533 01:08:10.239 --> 01:08:13.440 the option is there to grind to kind of tailor 1534 01:08:13.480 --> 01:08:16.800 the difficulty to how you want it to be. So 1535 01:08:17.159 --> 01:08:18.760 I'm just like, I guess the more I play Expedition 1536 01:08:18.840 --> 01:08:20.520 thirty three, the more I kind of see like the 1537 01:08:20.560 --> 01:08:23.439 overall picture come into focus, and it impresses me more 1538 01:08:23.479 --> 01:08:26.119 and more. I still don't think it's perfect by any means. 1539 01:08:26.159 --> 01:08:29.000 I really I do think this level design gets a 1540 01:08:29.079 --> 01:08:31.760 bit too complex in a game where there is no 1541 01:08:31.840 --> 01:08:35.279 mini map. And then I also think the game is 1542 01:08:35.439 --> 01:08:39.319 really has problems. What's the word I'm even looking for. 1543 01:08:39.399 --> 01:08:43.560 Like someone a colleague became a narrative designer and they 1544 01:08:43.560 --> 01:08:46.720 were saying like, there's a difference between level design and 1545 01:08:47.039 --> 01:08:49.920 writing and narrative design. Narrative design, at least at the 1546 01:08:49.960 --> 01:08:52.600 studio they were at, was very much about contextualizing your 1547 01:08:52.640 --> 01:08:57.000 mission in a way that made the mission itself feel important. 1548 01:08:57.279 --> 01:09:01.680 Like in Diablo three, the narrative desig at. I don't 1549 01:09:01.680 --> 01:09:04.199 know how Blizzard works, but for instance, using Diablo to three, 1550 01:09:04.319 --> 01:09:06.760 the narrative designer wouldn't be the one right in the dialogue. 1551 01:09:06.760 --> 01:09:08.680 They wouldn't be the one designing the actual area. It'd 1552 01:09:08.720 --> 01:09:12.039 be like, how do we contextualize this mission? Oh, this 1553 01:09:12.479 --> 01:09:14.720 skeleton king lost his skull and we need to go 1554 01:09:14.800 --> 01:09:17.159 get it back and then this thing happens along the way. 1555 01:09:17.840 --> 01:09:21.319 I think Expedition thirty three has problems with that sometimes, 1556 01:09:21.319 --> 01:09:23.680 where even when I'm playing for longer sessions, like if 1557 01:09:23.720 --> 01:09:28.079 I've been playing for three hours, I'll kind of and 1558 01:09:28.119 --> 01:09:30.840 maybe it's just my short term attention span, but I 1559 01:09:30.880 --> 01:09:32.359 don't think it is. Because I've been playing for three 1560 01:09:32.359 --> 01:09:35.359 hours and like synergizing and theory crafting different stuff, I'll 1561 01:09:35.359 --> 01:09:37.800 forget what I was even like what they wanted me 1562 01:09:37.840 --> 01:09:40.119 to do at all, And you can't really check until 1563 01:09:40.159 --> 01:09:42.760 you go out to the overworld. There might be a 1564 01:09:42.800 --> 01:09:45.119 way you can that I have not found in the menus. 1565 01:09:46.319 --> 01:09:50.159 There just is not much narrative info for me to 1566 01:09:50.319 --> 01:09:53.159 reference to remind myself what I'm even supposed to be 1567 01:09:53.359 --> 01:09:58.239 like doing. And that's just kind of exacerbated threefold when 1568 01:09:58.239 --> 01:10:01.479 I come back to the game after a trip away 1569 01:10:01.560 --> 01:10:03.640 in Ireland and I haven't played, so I'm like, what 1570 01:10:03.680 --> 01:10:05.960 the fuck was I? Oh, right, this is kind of 1571 01:10:05.960 --> 01:10:08.560 and then I'm just end up like wandering this gestural 1572 01:10:08.640 --> 01:10:12.640 village or whatever, trying to find the one character that 1573 01:10:12.680 --> 01:10:14.520 will point me in the direction because there's no real 1574 01:10:14.560 --> 01:10:18.560 like logbook that I've found. But yeah, I like that 1575 01:10:18.640 --> 01:10:20.680 game quite a bit. It's one of my favorite games 1576 01:10:20.680 --> 01:10:24.359 of the year so far. If you're into turn based 1577 01:10:24.359 --> 01:10:26.000 games you haven't tried it, definitely do it. But if 1578 01:10:26.000 --> 01:10:27.760 you're not into turn based games, see if those real 1579 01:10:27.760 --> 01:10:31.560 time elements kind of do it for you enough that 1580 01:10:31.600 --> 01:10:34.000 you could get into the turn based aspects, but I 1581 01:10:34.000 --> 01:10:35.520 don't know. Just similar to the way Damna was talking 1582 01:10:35.520 --> 01:10:38.159 about Destraainting two and different biomes in the world's like 1583 01:10:38.720 --> 01:10:43.239 Expedition thirty three has such creative world design, like you're 1584 01:10:43.279 --> 01:10:46.159 in this like you're in a coral reef, but it's 1585 01:10:46.399 --> 01:10:47.239 not underwater. 1586 01:10:47.760 --> 01:10:50.720 The underwater world is really cool because you're not swimming. 1587 01:10:51.319 --> 01:10:55.279 Yeah, and then the stone Stone Wave cliffs basically look 1588 01:10:55.359 --> 01:10:57.359 like the Cliffs of More in Ireland, which is probably 1589 01:10:57.399 --> 01:10:59.239 why they like It's funny. I played those before I 1590 01:10:59.279 --> 01:11:02.479 went to Ireland. Just like Super High cliff Sides, there's 1591 01:11:02.479 --> 01:11:05.000 like Ferris Wheels destroyed Ferris Wheels down below you from 1592 01:11:05.000 --> 01:11:10.039 amusement parks and stuff. Really really inventive game. Like I'm 1593 01:11:10.079 --> 01:11:12.479 so glad it's done so well because like that is 1594 01:11:12.520 --> 01:11:15.359 a studio I want to keep working and getting paid 1595 01:11:15.399 --> 01:11:16.359 and doing their thing. 1596 01:11:17.439 --> 01:11:21.119 It's definitely. It's definitely something that I intend on getting it, 1597 01:11:21.199 --> 01:11:23.119 Like as soon as there's a little I'm gonna check 1598 01:11:23.159 --> 01:11:27.079 this out because I feel like this is the RPG 1599 01:11:27.119 --> 01:11:28.960 I could get into, like the turn based ARPG I 1600 01:11:28.960 --> 01:11:30.920 can get into based on here, what I've seen, bank play, 1601 01:11:31.039 --> 01:11:34.000 what I've seen everyone whose tastes their respect says, it 1602 01:11:34.039 --> 01:11:36.399 seems like it's something very very special and I'm really 1603 01:11:36.399 --> 01:11:37.119 looking forward to it. 1604 01:11:37.159 --> 01:11:38.960 I think you'll appreciate it. Like right from the bat, 1605 01:11:39.039 --> 01:11:41.439 they've got this huge fucking premise they really need to 1606 01:11:41.439 --> 01:11:43.680 get across. They're not forcing you to talk to everybody 1607 01:11:43.680 --> 01:11:46.079 who was like, oh man, the gomage is about to happen. 1608 01:11:46.199 --> 01:11:48.319 Here's what it is. Even though I know you know, 1609 01:11:48.439 --> 01:11:50.399 but let's talk about it. It's like no, like you 1610 01:11:50.439 --> 01:11:52.760 could rush through a bunch of past a bunch of characters, 1611 01:11:52.800 --> 01:11:55.720 and all of a sudden, like this giant in the 1612 01:11:55.760 --> 01:11:59.520 distance paints a new number on this huge like like 1613 01:11:59.600 --> 01:12:01.359 plank and then all of a sudden, a bunch of 1614 01:12:01.359 --> 01:12:04.239 people disappear, like WHOA, I should have talked to those people. 1615 01:12:04.279 --> 01:12:08.359 But yeah, they're not forcing you. Every once in a while, 1616 01:12:08.359 --> 01:12:10.880 like it'll it'll fade, the screen will zoom out to 1617 01:12:10.920 --> 01:12:12.439 a cut scene when you go into a new area. 1618 01:12:12.479 --> 01:12:14.760 And but that's kind of the extent of it. And 1619 01:12:15.520 --> 01:12:19.439 the game's getting funny, not like not super laugh out 1620 01:12:19.439 --> 01:12:22.720 loud funny, but I have snickered a few times. There's 1621 01:12:22.720 --> 01:12:26.319 a couple of the character Eska Mary, have you gotten 1622 01:12:26.319 --> 01:12:31.239 an Ska yet? Yes? Him and his I did laugh 1623 01:12:31.279 --> 01:12:34.880 fairly hard because this game is also extremely French. But Ska, 1624 01:12:34.960 --> 01:12:37.960 who sounds like Javier Bardem, is like talking about He's like, 1625 01:12:38.680 --> 01:12:40.479 I need this, I need this. It's a very co 1626 01:12:40.560 --> 01:12:42.359 gema ask. He's like, I need I have a bunch 1627 01:12:42.399 --> 01:12:44.680 of different pet rocks, and I can't do this without that. 1628 01:12:44.760 --> 01:12:46.960 I can't fly without this pet rock. I can't swim 1629 01:12:47.000 --> 01:12:49.039 you to the paintress without this one. He's like, I'm 1630 01:12:49.039 --> 01:12:51.760 missing Flory, my pet rock that lets me swim. You 1631 01:12:51.800 --> 01:12:54.079 know who's taking it, The man who lives over there 1632 01:12:54.079 --> 01:12:57.920 in that cave, my arch nemesis, Francois. Then you go 1633 01:12:58.359 --> 01:13:00.680 and you have to go fight Francois needs this turtle 1634 01:13:00.680 --> 01:13:04.840 who shirts shoots fucking ice laser beams. Okay, yeah, it's 1635 01:13:04.920 --> 01:13:08.279 really dumb. Uh. Yeah, I don't know the game. It's 1636 01:13:08.319 --> 01:13:10.079 just funny that the way when you're talking about dest 1637 01:13:10.119 --> 01:13:12.279 Raining too is like you could be describing some like 1638 01:13:12.800 --> 01:13:16.119 some sections in an Expedition thirty three obviously very very 1639 01:13:16.119 --> 01:13:18.840 different kinds of games, but I don't know. It feels 1640 01:13:18.840 --> 01:13:20.840 like the developers at a certain point were like, we've 1641 01:13:20.920 --> 01:13:23.079 kind of created a world in which anything goes, so 1642 01:13:23.119 --> 01:13:27.560 why not just do anything? And it works really well. Yeah. 1643 01:13:27.560 --> 01:13:29.640 I like that game a lot. That's that's my main 1644 01:13:29.680 --> 01:13:32.640 focus now. I kind of want to finish that because 1645 01:13:32.840 --> 01:13:33.560 I've heard it's. 1646 01:13:33.640 --> 01:13:35.960 Not close you think, I think further do you have 1647 01:13:36.039 --> 01:13:36.359 to go? 1648 01:13:36.479 --> 01:13:38.279 I feel like when you have all the characters, you 1649 01:13:38.319 --> 01:13:39.399 have to be pretty close. 1650 01:13:39.880 --> 01:13:46.600 Yeah. My save file says twenty three hours, so I've 1651 01:13:46.600 --> 01:13:49.239 heard people say they beat it in like thirty which 1652 01:13:49.279 --> 01:13:51.239 like was was also another reason for me to dive in. 1653 01:13:51.279 --> 01:13:53.520 I'm like, a fucking Turn Basis RPG I could beat 1654 01:13:53.520 --> 01:13:56.319 in thirty hours, that's hell, yeah, let's do it. So 1655 01:13:56.399 --> 01:13:58.199 I think I'm going to finish that before I truly 1656 01:13:58.279 --> 01:14:01.319 just absorb myself in Stranding, because I don't want to 1657 01:14:01.319 --> 01:14:04.680 like sell either game short by not devoting myself to it. 1658 01:14:05.119 --> 01:14:07.560 Same and I can definitely tell that Expedition thirty three 1659 01:14:07.600 --> 01:14:09.399 is going to be talked about a lot on both 1660 01:14:09.439 --> 01:14:11.439 here and Giant Bombs Game of the Year, so I'm 1661 01:14:11.439 --> 01:14:13.279 going to need to need to play it, Yeah. 1662 01:14:13.479 --> 01:14:15.399 If only just to like at least have some like 1663 01:14:16.119 --> 01:14:19.239 context for why another game is doing something X or 1664 01:14:19.239 --> 01:14:22.640 why better than that? Yeah, it's I I think it 1665 01:14:22.720 --> 01:14:25.800 might grab you in a way, a way that like 1666 01:14:26.600 --> 01:14:28.920 even I was like, no, Dan, you wouldn't like metaphor, 1667 01:14:29.039 --> 01:14:32.039 But like, I think this has a better chance at least. 1668 01:14:32.039 --> 01:14:37.119 I'm curious what you think. Mary, you played more? Uh 1669 01:14:37.199 --> 01:14:40.920 what was the name of the game, Pistilo. Oh, yeah, 1670 01:14:41.000 --> 01:14:42.399 you both played it, but Mary you played more. 1671 01:14:42.479 --> 01:14:43.000 Mary's played. 1672 01:14:43.279 --> 01:14:46.960 Yeah, I'm really liking it. I think I'm almost I'm 1673 01:14:47.000 --> 01:14:51.000 getting there. My plan is to complete Pipistrello. I've decided 1674 01:14:51.039 --> 01:14:52.199 it actually is quite good. 1675 01:14:52.239 --> 01:14:52.399 Now. 1676 01:14:52.520 --> 01:14:55.279 Some of this is within the constraints that I've been 1677 01:14:55.279 --> 01:14:58.000 traveling so much. I've been playing it on Steam Deck 1678 01:14:58.199 --> 01:15:02.479 on the plane, and it's just such a great plane game. 1679 01:15:03.479 --> 01:15:05.039 It's very easy to pick up. 1680 01:15:05.439 --> 01:15:07.840 You can go anywhere you want, but there's like certain 1681 01:15:07.880 --> 01:15:10.760 directions you need to go in order to like get 1682 01:15:10.960 --> 01:15:15.159 certain things accomplished. I mean, I really enjoyed the second 1683 01:15:15.199 --> 01:15:16.079 boss area. 1684 01:15:16.560 --> 01:15:18.319 You like go into. 1685 01:15:19.479 --> 01:15:23.199 A construction site and you have to get all the 1686 01:15:23.279 --> 01:15:24.199 proper documentation. 1687 01:15:24.279 --> 01:15:27.439 They're like, you don't, Mikey, you don't have your documentation. 1688 01:15:27.600 --> 01:15:28.079 Where are you? 1689 01:15:28.119 --> 01:15:30.399 So you're like getting your documentations that you can go 1690 01:15:30.439 --> 01:15:35.239 down to this layer. I'm getting the coolest upgrades to 1691 01:15:35.399 --> 01:15:38.359 my yo yo. It is like they are puzzles, dude. 1692 01:15:38.399 --> 01:15:41.159 Like it is getting to the point now where I 1693 01:15:41.279 --> 01:15:45.800 am walking across water. I am able to jump backwards 1694 01:15:45.880 --> 01:15:48.920 over three blocks based on things that I've learned in 1695 01:15:49.000 --> 01:15:51.039 a crude over the time, So all this stuff that 1696 01:15:51.079 --> 01:15:53.199 I previously was like, oh my gosh, that's an upgrade, 1697 01:15:53.239 --> 01:15:55.279 but I can't get to it because it's past water 1698 01:15:55.760 --> 01:15:59.880 or it's like past this like cavernous area I can 1699 01:16:00.119 --> 01:16:03.199 get past. I can do it now, and it's really cool, 1700 01:16:03.439 --> 01:16:05.720 just like in any Metroidvania, being able to go back 1701 01:16:05.760 --> 01:16:08.359 and get all the upgrades and all the bonuses because 1702 01:16:08.439 --> 01:16:11.880 my character is so mobile now, I'm so strong and 1703 01:16:11.920 --> 01:16:14.520 I've been doing all these upgrades. The upgrade system for 1704 01:16:14.560 --> 01:16:16.920 anyone who missed the last time we talked about this game, 1705 01:16:17.359 --> 01:16:20.319 Pistrella has this I think, really cool upgrade system. 1706 01:16:20.720 --> 01:16:23.079 Where you essentially borrow an upgrade. 1707 01:16:23.199 --> 01:16:27.079 Let's say the upgrade is that your yoyo attack is 1708 01:16:27.119 --> 01:16:30.800 stronger now, but it costs one thousand dollars. Until you 1709 01:16:30.880 --> 01:16:35.039 pay off your debt, you have one less attack power. 1710 01:16:35.439 --> 01:16:39.239 And every dollar you accrue is split in half. 1711 01:16:40.279 --> 01:16:42.079 Half of it goes to your bank where you just 1712 01:16:42.079 --> 01:16:44.399 get to have it to spend, and the other half 1713 01:16:44.439 --> 01:16:46.279 goes to paying off your debt. Once you pay off 1714 01:16:46.279 --> 01:16:49.680 your debt, all of the negative effects are gone and 1715 01:16:49.720 --> 01:16:52.960 you get to keep your positive benefit forever. I've got 1716 01:16:53.000 --> 01:16:55.159 like twelve positive benefits right now. 1717 01:16:55.239 --> 01:16:57.119 And it feels great too, because like when you're getting 1718 01:16:57.159 --> 01:16:59.319 your coins and stuff after your defeat enemies, it's like 1719 01:16:59.359 --> 01:17:01.239 it's not like a undred percent is going towards paying 1720 01:17:01.239 --> 01:17:03.640 off dead Like okay, I'm increasing my wallet, but I'm 1721 01:17:03.640 --> 01:17:05.600 also paying this off, and as soon as it's paid off, 1722 01:17:05.640 --> 01:17:06.960 it's like, oh, hell, yeah, now I got the thing. 1723 01:17:07.000 --> 01:17:08.439 No downside, this is great. 1724 01:17:08.439 --> 01:17:11.680 There's no downside. I mean it's really fun. I've also been. 1725 01:17:11.960 --> 01:17:16.680 Buying uh so you can find badges and you can 1726 01:17:16.720 --> 01:17:19.680 also find blueprints. I find this a bit silly that 1727 01:17:19.760 --> 01:17:22.800 you can't just find badges but essentially take the blueprints 1728 01:17:22.840 --> 01:17:25.600 back to a person and they turn it into a badge. 1729 01:17:25.840 --> 01:17:28.520 Badge system is very similar to Hollow Night. You essentially 1730 01:17:28.520 --> 01:17:31.680 have a certain amount of pins that you can assign, 1731 01:17:31.880 --> 01:17:34.720 but you can pay to have a badge have its 1732 01:17:35.439 --> 01:17:38.079 amounts reduced, and which I do for every one of 1733 01:17:38.119 --> 01:17:40.119 my badges because it's a benefit, it's a boon. 1734 01:17:40.520 --> 01:17:42.880 And you can increase like the amount of your pips too, right, 1735 01:17:42.960 --> 01:17:44.520 like you're overall Like, yeah. 1736 01:17:44.399 --> 01:17:47.800 Those are also found in the world. They're also upgrades, 1737 01:17:48.680 --> 01:17:50.399 as is the amount of hearts that you have. You 1738 01:17:50.439 --> 01:17:53.319 have to find heart containers. If you find eight heart containers, 1739 01:17:53.319 --> 01:17:56.640 which I find such an obscure like random number, you 1740 01:17:56.680 --> 01:18:00.399 get a permanent heart added. Same thing with your little 1741 01:18:00.399 --> 01:18:02.520 badge pins. You can find them in the world. I 1742 01:18:02.520 --> 01:18:04.960 think for every two badge pins you find, you increase 1743 01:18:05.039 --> 01:18:09.039 the amount of badges you can have, and it's it 1744 01:18:09.159 --> 01:18:11.520 just is really rewarding. I'm so much stronger than the 1745 01:18:11.560 --> 01:18:13.359 last time I talked to you about this game, like 1746 01:18:13.399 --> 01:18:16.199 I've I've accomplished so much in this game. I still 1747 01:18:16.239 --> 01:18:20.239 find the world very whimsical and light and funny and cheeky, 1748 01:18:20.319 --> 01:18:23.359 and the side characters say the funniest, stupidest things, Like 1749 01:18:23.479 --> 01:18:28.640 I really have enjoyed going to the different areas and 1750 01:18:29.319 --> 01:18:31.399 I talk to all the side characters and hear all 1751 01:18:31.399 --> 01:18:32.359 their dumb dialogue. 1752 01:18:32.399 --> 01:18:34.560 It's it's cheeky and funny. 1753 01:18:34.640 --> 01:18:36.680 I actually think a lot of heart went into this game, 1754 01:18:36.720 --> 01:18:39.960 and I think it's quite good, especially for like an 1755 01:18:40.000 --> 01:18:42.479 indie ass indie game. I think they I think they 1756 01:18:42.560 --> 01:18:45.199 nailed it. So I'm I'm just loving Pipastrello. 1757 01:18:46.399 --> 01:18:49.279 It's really good. I can tell I like it enough 1758 01:18:49.279 --> 01:18:51.680 after playing like two or three hours on scheme that 1759 01:18:52.079 --> 01:18:54.159 I'm mainly traveling with my switch to now, so I 1760 01:18:54.159 --> 01:18:55.800 got a code for the switch one. It's like, all right, 1761 01:18:55.840 --> 01:18:57.800 well I'll start over. I'm like enjoying the moment to 1762 01:18:57.800 --> 01:19:00.279 moment enough on this that Yeah, it's kind of become 1763 01:19:00.279 --> 01:19:01.159 a playing game for me. 1764 01:19:01.640 --> 01:19:03.720 Yeah, to me, this is like one I'll be playing 1765 01:19:04.039 --> 01:19:04.920 until I complete it. 1766 01:19:04.920 --> 01:19:07.840 This is a completer for me. But again, I do 1767 01:19:07.880 --> 01:19:08.560 think that it is. 1768 01:19:09.159 --> 01:19:11.239 There is a part of me that would have played 1769 01:19:11.279 --> 01:19:14.479 Expedition thirty three if it wasn't for how much travel 1770 01:19:14.520 --> 01:19:17.600 I've been doing. I'm actually not sure if I could 1771 01:19:17.600 --> 01:19:20.640 play Expedition thirty three on a steam Deck. 1772 01:19:20.680 --> 01:19:21.840 If I could, I probably would. 1773 01:19:22.000 --> 01:19:24.000 I've heard it's not great. I was talking to people 1774 01:19:24.000 --> 01:19:25.279 that were doing that, and it's like, I guess the 1775 01:19:25.479 --> 01:19:27.760 like input lag type stuff is a problem for the 1776 01:19:27.800 --> 01:19:28.520 perrying and all that. 1777 01:19:28.600 --> 01:19:30.960 Oh, yeah, you don't game steam Deck. 1778 01:19:31.159 --> 01:19:34.000 Yeah, that Perry's punishing to begin with the window. 1779 01:19:34.119 --> 01:19:37.039 Yes, yeah, it's brutal and you will literally die if 1780 01:19:37.079 --> 01:19:39.680 you cannot dodge properly in that game, like you'd been 1781 01:19:39.680 --> 01:19:41.520 doing the same boss fights like one hundred times. 1782 01:19:41.600 --> 01:19:44.880 Yeah, for sure. But also today there was a fucking 1783 01:19:45.079 --> 01:19:49.399 I like, I perfectly created this party in which like 1784 01:19:51.399 --> 01:19:53.720 I waited on purpose, I skipped a turn on purpose 1785 01:19:53.760 --> 01:19:55.560 to try to kill a character with a counter attack 1786 01:19:55.600 --> 01:19:58.319 because my counter attack did more damage to burning characters 1787 01:19:58.680 --> 01:20:02.640 and then also her ice sword, her ice sythe did 1788 01:20:02.720 --> 01:20:08.319 more damage to uh what was it marked characters and 1789 01:20:08.359 --> 01:20:10.319 I had just marked it with another counter attack and 1790 01:20:10.319 --> 01:20:13.079 then it fucking did like the entire health bar. It's 1791 01:20:13.079 --> 01:20:18.039 really good anyway, Sorry, I want to h those. 1792 01:20:17.960 --> 01:20:19.920 Little caveats and you get to like kill a bom. 1793 01:20:20.079 --> 01:20:21.720 It was like, it was like, what do you want 1794 01:20:21.720 --> 01:20:25.720 to call it? Fucking uh our game of the year 1795 01:20:25.800 --> 01:20:30.199 last year? Why am I the name in miniature in 1796 01:20:30.239 --> 01:20:32.119 a turn based games like oh man, they let me 1797 01:20:32.159 --> 01:20:36.319 break it. One other detail I forgot to mention, they 1798 01:20:36.359 --> 01:20:39.720 warn you there's an option in the menu or in 1799 01:20:39.760 --> 01:20:41.439 the menu at the beginning of the game or on 1800 01:20:41.520 --> 01:20:44.880 the character man either like just so you know, you 1801 01:20:44.920 --> 01:20:47.800 can toggle off, you can keep, you can toggle it 1802 01:20:47.840 --> 01:20:51.640 to default costumes and cut scenes, or you can use 1803 01:20:51.680 --> 01:20:54.159 whatever costume they have attached. But there may just be 1804 01:20:54.279 --> 01:20:58.399 unintended tonal shifts. So there's one where they run into 1805 01:20:58.439 --> 01:21:00.560 someone like I don't want to spoil too much, but 1806 01:21:00.600 --> 01:21:03.720 like basically several different parties thought the other one was dead, 1807 01:21:04.239 --> 01:21:06.640 and finally they meet up and it's this really like 1808 01:21:06.880 --> 01:21:09.960 emotional reunion because this one woman like thought she was 1809 01:21:10.000 --> 01:21:15.439 the last one alive and final she's she's like reuniting 1810 01:21:15.479 --> 01:21:20.840 with with Gustave and whatnot, the protagonists, and then everybody's like, 1811 01:21:20.880 --> 01:21:22.720 we need to we really need to get going, and 1812 01:21:22.760 --> 01:21:26.319 then they just they can't like bring themselves to move on, 1813 01:21:26.439 --> 01:21:28.079 even though they know they need to, because it's like 1814 01:21:28.119 --> 01:21:29.760 the weight of its hitting them. And all of a sudden, 1815 01:21:29.880 --> 01:21:33.119 Luna comes out from off screen with a baguette slung 1816 01:21:33.159 --> 01:21:36.079 over her shoulder, and red rim sunglasses. She's like, guys, 1817 01:21:36.319 --> 01:21:38.960 we need to go, and then I was like, oh, 1818 01:21:39.000 --> 01:21:42.199 that's what they were talking about. It's really good. 1819 01:21:42.520 --> 01:21:44.760 I extremely have that in Destrainting too as well, because 1820 01:21:44.760 --> 01:21:47.960 it's like I'm wearing like Elton John starglasses and Norman 1821 01:21:48.039 --> 01:21:50.720 Rita's and like a giant camel hat that has like 1822 01:21:51.279 --> 01:21:54.000 bladders of water so in the desert, I don't overheat. 1823 01:21:54.319 --> 01:21:56.800 It's like someone's like delivering a baby and screaming, and 1824 01:21:56.880 --> 01:21:58.520 Norman Rita's and his camel hats there. 1825 01:21:58.600 --> 01:21:59.640 You know, it's amazing. 1826 01:22:00.800 --> 01:22:03.399 I feel like in that game there's like so much 1827 01:22:04.119 --> 01:22:07.199 separation of reality that you just allow it. 1828 01:22:07.479 --> 01:22:10.960 But there's a lot of just like crying four so funny. 1829 01:22:11.279 --> 01:22:13.680 Yeah, but like it's so earnest with the weirdness that 1830 01:22:13.720 --> 01:22:16.439 it's like here's this extremely earnest scene with like crying 1831 01:22:16.520 --> 01:22:18.840 and babies and peril and stuff, and here's Norman Renis 1832 01:22:18.840 --> 01:22:21.000 wearing a camel and it's like, Okay, sure. 1833 01:22:22.359 --> 01:22:24.199 Day, you said you're traveling with your switch. Are you 1834 01:22:24.239 --> 01:22:26.319 still playing a lot of World Tour Mario? 1835 01:22:26.479 --> 01:22:29.239 I am, and yeah, I had the big family test 1836 01:22:29.760 --> 01:22:32.840 this weekend with the local multiplayer and everything because that's 1837 01:22:32.840 --> 01:22:34.600 always the thing with Mario Karts, like that is the 1838 01:22:35.079 --> 01:22:39.520 great uniter of you know, casual gamers and hardcore gamers, like, okay, 1839 01:22:39.520 --> 01:22:41.920 everyone can get together and place some Mario card And 1840 01:22:42.159 --> 01:22:44.600 did that with several groups of people while I was home, 1841 01:22:44.800 --> 01:22:49.520 and resounding success. People absolutely loved it. It's a great time. 1842 01:22:49.600 --> 01:22:52.119 The camera thing. Everyone finds the camera thing fun when 1843 01:22:52.119 --> 01:22:54.520 you can see everyone's head above their cards and everything. 1844 01:22:54.920 --> 01:22:59.439 I found the Knockout Tour is very very popular. Everybody 1845 01:22:59.439 --> 01:23:01.399 I showed it to that doesn't really keep up with 1846 01:23:01.399 --> 01:23:02.479 the game and it was just like, oh shit, that's 1847 01:23:02.479 --> 01:23:05.560 a really cool idea. But yeah, it's like I feel 1848 01:23:05.560 --> 01:23:07.840 like people that have played a million of these games 1849 01:23:07.840 --> 01:23:09.880 and podcasts and stuff about it, like there have been 1850 01:23:10.239 --> 01:23:14.039 complaints about Mario Kart being underwhelming or whatever. I have 1851 01:23:14.119 --> 01:23:17.199 not felt that, and certainly the people that just occasionally 1852 01:23:17.239 --> 01:23:19.960 play a Mario Kard game have all been like, oh, 1853 01:23:20.000 --> 01:23:22.319 this is awesome, Like we just had a great, great time, 1854 01:23:22.359 --> 01:23:24.640 like at the lake, hooking up a switch at night, 1855 01:23:24.760 --> 01:23:27.399 having some beers and playing. It's great for that, and 1856 01:23:27.520 --> 01:23:29.479 Knockout Tour is a blast. There was one night I 1857 01:23:29.520 --> 01:23:31.359 was just hanging out with Kayla and everybody had gone 1858 01:23:31.359 --> 01:23:33.640 to bed and we were just like each had our 1859 01:23:33.640 --> 01:23:36.439 switch to is out, and we told my discord like, hey, 1860 01:23:36.479 --> 01:23:39.119 here's the room code. Just a bunch of people jumped in. 1861 01:23:39.159 --> 01:23:41.159 We weren't streaming or anything. We were just playing, and 1862 01:23:41.199 --> 01:23:43.159 like in between races we'd talked shit and the discord 1863 01:23:43.239 --> 01:23:44.720 and stuff, and it was just like, man, we played 1864 01:23:44.760 --> 01:23:47.279 for like four hours or something and just had an 1865 01:23:47.359 --> 01:23:49.880 absolute blash. Me and Kayles sitting on the couch playing 1866 01:23:49.880 --> 01:23:52.520 this game, and like, it's a good fucking Mario Kart. 1867 01:23:52.600 --> 01:23:54.720 I do love the Switch too. I understand that it's 1868 01:23:54.720 --> 01:23:58.039 not like the most loaded launch lineup or anything like that, 1869 01:23:58.119 --> 01:24:01.520 but Mario Kart's great loving it, and you know, Donkey 1870 01:24:01.600 --> 01:24:04.079 Kong's right around the corner. I'm certainly pleased with the 1871 01:24:04.079 --> 01:24:04.520 Switch too. 1872 01:24:04.720 --> 01:24:07.760 There will be more Switch games that I am not 1873 01:24:07.880 --> 01:24:11.800 worried about. I think like you're an early adopter, and 1874 01:24:11.920 --> 01:24:14.520 because you are such a fan of Mario Kart, I 1875 01:24:14.520 --> 01:24:15.720 think it makes a lot of sense for you. I 1876 01:24:15.800 --> 01:24:18.239 also think it's completely reasonable for other people to hold 1877 01:24:18.279 --> 01:24:22.520 off until sure there's more games, But I think for you, 1878 01:24:22.520 --> 01:24:25.359 your truth is is that it's totally acceptable reason to 1879 01:24:25.359 --> 01:24:25.920 get it now. 1880 01:24:26.239 --> 01:24:28.359 Oh, anyone who's saying, like, I don't want to spend 1881 01:24:28.479 --> 01:24:30.800 five hundred if you get the bundle with tax, it's 1882 01:24:30.840 --> 01:24:33.119 like five hundred and fifty dollars for Switch to and 1883 01:24:33.359 --> 01:24:35.600 Mario Kart. And it's like if someone's like, I like 1884 01:24:35.640 --> 01:24:37.640 Mario Kart, fine, but I would all wait a little 1885 01:24:37.640 --> 01:24:39.760 bit before I spend five hundred and fifty dollars. Yes, 1886 01:24:39.880 --> 01:24:43.760 obviously completely understand that. But for me, I really love 1887 01:24:44.000 --> 01:24:46.680 Mario Kart and I just don't see it as a 1888 01:24:46.720 --> 01:24:49.239 disappointed Like I've heard people describe it as a disappointing 1889 01:24:49.720 --> 01:24:52.640 launch game, and I see it as like kind of 1890 01:24:52.640 --> 01:24:54.439 a killer app, like if you love Mario Kart and 1891 01:24:54.439 --> 01:24:58.159 you've got the money to spend, Like, certainly not disappointed 1892 01:24:58.239 --> 01:24:58.479 with this. 1893 01:24:58.880 --> 01:25:01.319 They launched the first Switch with a Zelda or. 1894 01:25:01.359 --> 01:25:03.600 My crazy first Switch launch with Breath of the Wild, 1895 01:25:03.640 --> 01:25:05.720 which is insane, and it was also released on we 1896 01:25:05.880 --> 01:25:06.640 You at the same. 1897 01:25:06.439 --> 01:25:10.640 Time comparatively, and you know, that's maybe where some of 1898 01:25:10.640 --> 01:25:13.640 that disappointments coming from, because if you weren't playing Breath 1899 01:25:13.680 --> 01:25:15.520 of the Wild when that came out, you were fucking 1900 01:25:15.600 --> 01:25:19.760 absolutely missing out on the best game ever. 1901 01:25:20.159 --> 01:25:21.680 And that's just not the case this time. 1902 01:25:21.840 --> 01:25:23.840 As much as I love Mario Kart World, it does 1903 01:25:23.880 --> 01:25:27.600 not remotely compare to just the crater that that Breath 1904 01:25:27.600 --> 01:25:30.039 the Wild left, like that was an industry changing game. 1905 01:25:30.840 --> 01:25:32.039 Year, game of all time. 1906 01:25:32.279 --> 01:25:34.239 I mean, yes, it's probably like the best game ever. 1907 01:25:34.319 --> 01:25:36.199 So like in the first year of the original Switch, 1908 01:25:36.279 --> 01:25:38.800 we had Breath of the Wild Mario Kart eight Deluxe, 1909 01:25:38.800 --> 01:25:40.960 which was just a better version of Mario Kart ninety 1910 01:25:41.000 --> 01:25:44.399 six tracks, which is no, no, no, It took time 1911 01:25:44.439 --> 01:25:47.439 for a deluxe round, gotcha. They added that later with 1912 01:25:47.479 --> 01:25:49.840 the Switch Online expansion pack thing, But then Mario w 1913 01:25:49.840 --> 01:25:51.960 Otis was that year two, So twenty seventeen it was 1914 01:25:51.960 --> 01:25:56.560 like Breath the Wild, Switch Mario Ottissey, Mario Kart A Deluxe. 1915 01:25:56.600 --> 01:26:00.359 It was just unreal, Like best launch yer maybe ever 1916 01:26:00.479 --> 01:26:03.439 for a console. So by no means is the Switch 1917 01:26:03.520 --> 01:26:05.119 to meeting that not by long shot? I mean, I 1918 01:26:05.119 --> 01:26:06.479 guess we still have the rest of the year. Donkey 1919 01:26:06.520 --> 01:26:08.920 Kong is great. Who knows what's for the holiday Metroid. 1920 01:26:09.000 --> 01:26:12.039 It looks like a really solid year. But like Switch 1921 01:26:12.079 --> 01:26:15.720 one's first year was legendary, so don't mean to put 1922 01:26:15.720 --> 01:26:18.800 it on that pedestal, but mariok Art World's really fucking fun. 1923 01:26:21.840 --> 01:26:23.479 I got one last one for you. 1924 01:26:24.239 --> 01:26:25.119 Is it a fishing game? 1925 01:26:25.760 --> 01:26:27.239 It is a fishing game. 1926 01:26:27.439 --> 01:26:27.960 Is it cozy? 1927 01:26:28.800 --> 01:26:34.640 It's cozy. It's called cast in Chill. Look it up. 1928 01:26:34.800 --> 01:26:38.800 It is stunning, stunningly gorgeous. 1929 01:26:39.880 --> 01:26:41.359 Oh yeah, graphic style. 1930 01:26:42.039 --> 01:26:44.000 I was wondering if it was in chill like toys 1931 01:26:44.119 --> 01:26:46.079 r Us and it is a lowercase end. 1932 01:26:47.479 --> 01:26:49.800 And yeah, it is so. 1933 01:26:51.199 --> 01:26:51.520 Like da. 1934 01:26:53.479 --> 01:26:56.640 Yes, I think Dave the Diver is like for going on. 1935 01:26:56.880 --> 01:26:57.680 This is simple. 1936 01:26:57.760 --> 01:27:00.359 The reflection on the water is crazy looking for ape it. 1937 01:27:01.079 --> 01:27:03.920 And they do a good job with adding no I. 1938 01:27:03.880 --> 01:27:07.119 Mean sorry, I'm being reductive like pixelated art style. 1939 01:27:07.520 --> 01:27:08.760 Sure, yeah, they. 1940 01:27:09.000 --> 01:27:11.199 Do a good job with adding a lot of nature elements. 1941 01:27:11.239 --> 01:27:14.560 So while you're fishing on this river. 1942 01:27:14.560 --> 01:27:15.720 Damn, that's really good booking. 1943 01:27:16.279 --> 01:27:20.560 Ducks will swim or fly by. Sometimes there's deer in 1944 01:27:20.600 --> 01:27:23.399 the forest. There's lots of like little secrets that make 1945 01:27:23.439 --> 01:27:26.560 you feel like you're in a living, breathing world. But 1946 01:27:26.960 --> 01:27:31.039 you essentially fish, and as you fish, you sell your fish. 1947 01:27:31.359 --> 01:27:34.199 For the very beginning, you're selling your fish for like 1948 01:27:34.239 --> 01:27:36.800 five dollars a fish, and you use the money to 1949 01:27:36.960 --> 01:27:43.800 upgrade everything your rod, your line, your lores, the strength 1950 01:27:43.920 --> 01:27:46.319 which you need for bigger fish deeper in the lake, 1951 01:27:46.399 --> 01:27:49.640 and then eventually your boat, how many fish you can 1952 01:27:49.680 --> 01:27:54.399 carry back, and ultimately different lakes that you can swim 1953 01:27:54.399 --> 01:28:01.880 in different environments. Yeah, it's it's but it's so cozy. 1954 01:28:02.000 --> 01:28:05.039 It's like not scary at all. You cast with A, 1955 01:28:05.239 --> 01:28:07.920 it's very simple, and you reel with A. You can 1956 01:28:08.000 --> 01:28:11.000 redrop your line if you need to, but ultimately, like 1957 01:28:11.039 --> 01:28:13.479 I'm basically just throwing my line in and like hoping 1958 01:28:13.560 --> 01:28:18.359 a fish grabs it. There's some minor games with the fish. 1959 01:28:18.399 --> 01:28:20.680 If they're really strong, they can actually pull away and 1960 01:28:20.760 --> 01:28:22.880 break your lines. You have to be careful with like 1961 01:28:22.960 --> 01:28:25.159 how quickly you reel them in. But I mean, like, 1962 01:28:25.479 --> 01:28:30.960 you guys, this is like, this is such a sleepy, calm, 1963 01:28:31.319 --> 01:28:35.720 zen relaxing game. I bought this because I was working. 1964 01:28:36.079 --> 01:28:38.399 I was so like, you know, it's stressful working in 1965 01:28:38.439 --> 01:28:42.159 another country. I don't fucking speak French. I wanted a 1966 01:28:42.239 --> 01:28:45.960 game that allowed me to unwind after a long work 1967 01:28:46.039 --> 01:28:48.960 day and fall asleep, and that is exactly what this is. 1968 01:28:49.000 --> 01:28:51.079 I fell asleep playing this game in a good way, 1969 01:28:51.479 --> 01:28:52.520 if that makes sense. 1970 01:28:52.680 --> 01:28:53.199 Yeah, is it. 1971 01:28:53.239 --> 01:28:55.720 What do you in a level of like fishing complexity, how 1972 01:28:55.720 --> 01:28:58.479 would you compare it to like the stardew system. 1973 01:28:58.439 --> 01:29:00.640 Right, I mean Starduo has that mini game of like 1974 01:29:00.720 --> 01:29:02.680 making sure that you can keep it within that bar. 1975 01:29:02.960 --> 01:29:04.840 That doesn't have any of this stuff. It is just 1976 01:29:04.880 --> 01:29:08.159 simply like the fish is pulling, pull back. If it 1977 01:29:08.199 --> 01:29:10.159 pulls too hard, you can break your lines. You need 1978 01:29:10.199 --> 01:29:12.079 to let it go sometimes and then. 1979 01:29:11.960 --> 01:29:15.359 Bring it in. There's no mini game, there's no bar. 1980 01:29:15.640 --> 01:29:18.600 It's just reel in the fish as best as you can, 1981 01:29:18.680 --> 01:29:21.880 and again when you lose the fish, you just fucking 1982 01:29:22.039 --> 01:29:25.439 cast again. Like it's super casual. It does have a 1983 01:29:26.279 --> 01:29:27.800 what do you call it a dossier? It has like 1984 01:29:27.840 --> 01:29:30.720 a book of every fish you've ever caught. So when 1985 01:29:30.720 --> 01:29:34.159 you catch a new type of fish, when you break 1986 01:29:34.159 --> 01:29:36.479 a record for your biggest fish ever, you get like 1987 01:29:36.560 --> 01:29:38.640 a little star being like you broke your record. 1988 01:29:38.760 --> 01:29:41.439 You know this one's a fourteen bounder. That's crazy. 1989 01:29:41.680 --> 01:29:45.600 So you're like, it's really calm, you guys. This is 1990 01:29:45.600 --> 01:29:46.960 like probably one of the chillest games. 1991 01:29:46.960 --> 01:29:47.119 Oh. 1992 01:29:47.199 --> 01:29:51.760 Also, I just have to mention your boat has a 1993 01:29:51.800 --> 01:29:54.760 dog in it, and every time you successfully catch a fish, 1994 01:29:54.880 --> 01:29:56.760 he gives you a little heart because he loves you 1995 01:29:56.840 --> 01:29:58.239 and you're so good at catching fish. 1996 01:29:58.520 --> 01:30:00.520 The picture I pulled up it does like you can 1997 01:30:00.560 --> 01:30:01.840 pet the dog with the mouse cursor. 1998 01:30:02.279 --> 01:30:05.560 Yes, it's it's so sweet, you guys. It's it's just 1999 01:30:05.600 --> 01:30:08.319 a relaxing fishing game. There's no muss, there's no fuss, 2000 01:30:08.359 --> 01:30:09.880 there's no friendship system, there's no. 2001 01:30:11.359 --> 01:30:11.720 Uh. 2002 01:30:12.399 --> 01:30:15.760 Their dialogue between you and the fishermen is so simple. 2003 01:30:15.800 --> 01:30:18.000 If you come back with really small fish, he's like. 2004 01:30:17.960 --> 01:30:19.520 What did you go? What'd you do? 2005 01:30:19.640 --> 01:30:21.720 Go to a guppy farm and you're like, shut the 2006 01:30:21.720 --> 01:30:24.199 fuck up, you old bitch, and then you like buy 2007 01:30:24.319 --> 01:30:25.079 better lures. 2008 01:30:25.439 --> 01:30:26.000 You get like. 2009 01:30:26.119 --> 01:30:29.640 Big ass bass fishes and the guys like what what 2010 01:30:29.800 --> 01:30:30.239 a haul? 2011 01:30:30.479 --> 01:30:30.560 Like? 2012 01:30:31.520 --> 01:30:31.960 That's it? 2013 01:30:32.039 --> 01:30:34.359 Like, this is a very simple game that does it 2014 01:30:34.439 --> 01:30:41.039 quite well if you're open to beautiful style, like pixel 2015 01:30:41.079 --> 01:30:44.399 style graphics like this. I mean, this is expertly crafted 2016 01:30:44.479 --> 01:30:49.199 and just cordial design. It's it's stunning, very simple cozy 2017 01:30:49.239 --> 01:30:49.760 fish game. 2018 01:30:50.560 --> 01:30:50.800 Cool. 2019 01:30:51.319 --> 01:30:53.960 I love a good fishing game like whether it's it's 2020 01:30:53.960 --> 01:30:56.279 simple arcadie stuff for more like a like you know, 2021 01:30:56.520 --> 01:30:59.000 dedicated fishing controls. I should check this out. 2022 01:30:59.359 --> 01:31:01.880 Yeah, I think it's so sweet, and it's well done, 2023 01:31:01.880 --> 01:31:04.439 and I don't think it's getting a lot of I 2024 01:31:04.479 --> 01:31:06.880 don't feel like people are going to talk about this game, 2025 01:31:07.199 --> 01:31:07.880 so I'm glad. 2026 01:31:07.920 --> 01:31:08.279 I am. 2027 01:31:08.439 --> 01:31:10.880 I do think it's quite good, so I'm glad. I 2028 01:31:11.319 --> 01:31:13.760 hope somebody grabs it from this cool. 2029 01:31:14.840 --> 01:31:18.760 All right, do you guys want to do emails? Yeah? 2030 01:31:20.479 --> 01:31:23.039 All right? As usual, you can write into firecapcast at 2031 01:31:23.039 --> 01:31:27.199 gmail dot com to questions for our show. We got 2032 01:31:27.199 --> 01:31:29.359 a bunch since last time. Keep them coming. It helps 2033 01:31:29.439 --> 01:31:32.039 us keep it stocked, so we have the pigot the 2034 01:31:32.079 --> 01:31:34.119 letter to choose from every time we get in. I 2035 01:31:34.159 --> 01:31:36.680 do have one really quick favor I need to ask people. 2036 01:31:37.520 --> 01:31:39.640 There's been a couple episodes over the last ten or 2037 01:31:39.680 --> 01:31:42.760 so where I've mentioned this game, and it's fucking eluding me. 2038 01:31:43.279 --> 01:31:45.800 It's like a white whale of a game. And I 2039 01:31:45.920 --> 01:31:48.600 have several things I could tell you. I can't. I 2040 01:31:48.600 --> 01:31:50.640 don't even know how to search for it. I cannot 2041 01:31:50.680 --> 01:31:53.800 find this game that I played and really liked. All 2042 01:31:53.840 --> 01:31:57.399 I knew. I want to say it was twenty twenty, 2043 01:31:58.079 --> 01:32:02.520 twenty twenty one, we'll get twenty. I don't. I don't know. 2044 01:32:02.600 --> 01:32:06.000 All I know is it was very colorful. It was 2045 01:32:06.039 --> 01:32:09.720 either a metroid Vania or like a two true action game. 2046 01:32:10.119 --> 01:32:14.000 But the main thing was you're you're recruiting this big, 2047 01:32:14.199 --> 01:32:18.159 like fairly large squad of characters and it's not cute, 2048 01:32:18.239 --> 01:32:19.359 but it's like color. 2049 01:32:19.279 --> 01:32:20.279 Not wild bastards. 2050 01:32:20.680 --> 01:32:24.600 No no, no, no way. Wait. Yeah, And the thing was 2051 01:32:24.680 --> 01:32:29.119 you could basically have four four characters equipped, and from 2052 01:32:29.119 --> 01:32:30.800 what I remember, you have like you hold a trigger 2053 01:32:30.840 --> 01:32:33.239 and you press a DP pad direction and it would 2054 01:32:33.840 --> 01:32:35.239 swap you to that character really quick. 2055 01:32:35.279 --> 01:32:39.319 What's the perspective two two D side like isometric top 2056 01:32:39.720 --> 01:32:40.720 side scrolling. 2057 01:32:40.479 --> 01:32:42.640 And I can't I don't think it was a Metrodvana. 2058 01:32:42.640 --> 01:32:45.279 I might have had Metroidvania light aspects. 2059 01:32:45.319 --> 01:32:47.680 But like Beat Them Up is just like a streets Rade. 2060 01:32:48.239 --> 01:32:51.000 It was like an action oriented game. Yeah, because each 2061 01:32:51.079 --> 01:32:54.239 character you equip again and you're developing a big roster 2062 01:32:54.319 --> 01:32:56.680 of characters. You're just traveling across this world. 2063 01:32:58.319 --> 01:33:01.000 Nobody saves the world. No that I would know that 2064 01:33:01.399 --> 01:33:04.920 that was top down, but it was top down. But yeah, yeah, yeah, 2065 01:33:05.359 --> 01:33:07.640 this was before that. That was like two years ago. 2066 01:33:07.720 --> 01:33:09.279 I want to say this was four or five. 2067 01:33:10.000 --> 01:33:11.640 I don't I remember. 2068 01:33:11.640 --> 01:33:14.800 We're doing the show, were we doing this. 2069 01:33:15.119 --> 01:33:17.159 It might have even been right before we did the show, 2070 01:33:17.199 --> 01:33:18.760 so it was like it could have been twenty. 2071 01:33:18.479 --> 01:33:19.800 Twenty early pandemic. 2072 01:33:19.880 --> 01:33:23.039 It was twenty nineteen or twenty twenty or twenty one. 2073 01:33:23.079 --> 01:33:24.319 I know because I had just moved. 2074 01:33:24.199 --> 01:33:26.119 Back to the are you counching? Are you shooting? 2075 01:33:26.279 --> 01:33:30.239 Melee? A lot of melee. I want to say. There 2076 01:33:30.279 --> 01:33:32.159 was one character who had kind of this like the 2077 01:33:32.239 --> 01:33:33.520 conical hat. 2078 01:33:35.199 --> 01:33:37.560 Blasphemous. No, no it was. 2079 01:33:37.640 --> 01:33:40.239 It wasn't dark. It was like a bright game, even 2080 01:33:40.239 --> 01:33:45.000 though it's pretty like fairly violent. I don't even know 2081 01:33:45.000 --> 01:33:46.880 how to search for it. I remember really liking it, 2082 01:33:46.920 --> 01:33:50.800 and I remember not loving the name. But I played 2083 01:33:50.800 --> 01:33:52.399 through the whole thing though, and I don't remember the 2084 01:33:52.479 --> 01:33:55.359 last time someone's talked about it. And I've looked through 2085 01:33:55.399 --> 01:33:59.800 all my libraries on Steam PlayStation. I think I played 2086 01:33:59.800 --> 01:34:01.800 it on, so it might be somewhere on Steam. I 2087 01:34:01.840 --> 01:34:03.319 just need to go through the fine tooth. 2088 01:34:03.119 --> 01:34:05.640 Comb Mainly, is it like a combos? Are you juggling 2089 01:34:06.000 --> 01:34:06.760 juggling combos? 2090 01:34:06.840 --> 01:34:09.319 Yeah? Yeah, not quite beat them up, but like, yeah, 2091 01:34:09.399 --> 01:34:13.479 it's pretty action heavy, but you're going across this really 2092 01:34:13.560 --> 01:34:15.800 colorful world, so you're not you know, it's not like 2093 01:34:15.880 --> 01:34:16.760 super confined. 2094 01:34:17.319 --> 01:34:19.520 Is there an map like overworld map or is it 2095 01:34:19.600 --> 01:34:22.680 just like I think so stage to stage. 2096 01:34:22.720 --> 01:34:25.359 I think it's I think you're doing a bit of backtracking, 2097 01:34:26.199 --> 01:34:28.279 and I just remember, like you have four characters in 2098 01:34:28.319 --> 01:34:30.640 your party basically, but you're like swapping between them on 2099 01:34:30.680 --> 01:34:32.000 the map to fight, and I remember you could do 2100 01:34:32.039 --> 01:34:35.239 it at the press of a deep head, and like 2101 01:34:35.279 --> 01:34:38.680 if that if anybody, no, no, no, no, it wasn't like humor, 2102 01:34:38.760 --> 01:34:43.239 humor or no sorry, tonally, it was like it even 2103 01:34:43.279 --> 01:34:45.960 reminds me of the tone that the League of Legend 2104 01:34:46.119 --> 01:34:49.640 like Saga games are going for those like one off 2105 01:34:49.640 --> 01:34:53.319 games that people are making. If if that's not enough, 2106 01:34:53.319 --> 01:34:54.479 I don't know that I'll ever find it. I'll just 2107 01:34:54.520 --> 01:34:55.880 need to go through my steam, like. 2108 01:34:55.960 --> 01:34:57.880 I'll think about it, and like, now that we put 2109 01:34:57.880 --> 01:34:59.159 it out there, I'm sure somebody will. 2110 01:34:59.439 --> 01:35:01.039 I played it and I don't even remember the name, 2111 01:35:01.079 --> 01:35:04.319 so clearly the name was forgettable. Anyway, if that helps them, 2112 01:35:04.359 --> 01:35:06.600 please email fireskap Pass at gmail dot com. It's been 2113 01:35:06.680 --> 01:35:10.359 killing me and I want to have more Ragnarok. That's it, Okay, 2114 01:35:10.960 --> 01:35:12.880 never mind, I don't need the emails, all right, Dan 2115 01:35:13.079 --> 01:35:16.359 Mary usually reads first, but this one specifically for you 2116 01:35:17.079 --> 01:35:19.239 from Tim all. 2117 01:35:19.239 --> 01:35:21.960 Right, Hi, this is for Dan. I first tried middle 2118 01:35:22.000 --> 01:35:23.840 Gear Solid from a demo disc back in the PS 2119 01:35:23.880 --> 01:35:25.920 one era, was the Pizza Hut one. Because that's when 2120 01:35:25.920 --> 01:35:27.239 I played it, I thought it. 2121 01:35:27.239 --> 01:35:28.039 Was super boring. 2122 01:35:28.720 --> 01:35:31.000 I never even finished the demo. I haven't played a 2123 01:35:31.000 --> 01:35:33.159 minute of a Kajema game since then. I figured I 2124 01:35:33.159 --> 01:35:34.920 should at least give it a second try twenty five 2125 01:35:34.960 --> 01:35:37.239 years later. I know there are a few collections and 2126 01:35:37.279 --> 01:35:39.399 remasters out there. If somebody was picking the middle Gear 2127 01:35:39.439 --> 01:35:42.039 Solid games up for the first time, what consoles or 2128 01:35:42.159 --> 01:35:44.079 versions would you tell them to get. I have everything, 2129 01:35:44.119 --> 01:35:47.119 including a high ENDPC. Thanks Tim from Baldwin. Oh, I 2130 01:35:47.119 --> 01:35:49.720 think this is easy. I think you know. If you 2131 01:35:49.720 --> 01:35:53.680 have everything including a high NPC, I say the Steam 2132 01:35:53.840 --> 01:35:57.279 version of the Master Collection Volume one, because that actually 2133 01:35:57.279 --> 01:35:59.239 all that plays very well on the Steam deck as well. 2134 01:36:00.079 --> 01:36:02.079 That should have kind of that PS one version of 2135 01:36:02.079 --> 01:36:05.199 Middle Year Solid. It should have. I don't know if 2136 01:36:05.199 --> 01:36:08.359 it's the substance version of MGS two, but it shouldn't matter. 2137 01:36:09.119 --> 01:36:11.760 The important thing with three is that is the subsistence 2138 01:36:11.840 --> 01:36:14.840 version with the camera, which I believe the Master Collection 2139 01:36:15.079 --> 01:36:17.920 Volume one has uh, and then you'll have to figure 2140 01:36:17.920 --> 01:36:19.920 out how to play four, which that's a whole different thing. 2141 01:36:20.000 --> 01:36:21.000 Like I don't know if you have a well, if 2142 01:36:21.000 --> 01:36:23.239 you have everything, you have a PS three playing down there, 2143 01:36:23.279 --> 01:36:25.840 there's other you know, ways, funky ways you can play 2144 01:36:25.880 --> 01:36:28.479 Metal your Solid four. But I just think get Master 2145 01:36:28.520 --> 01:36:32.800 Collection Metal Your Solid volume one on Steam and download 2146 01:36:32.800 --> 01:36:34.760 it to your high end PC and your Steam deck, 2147 01:36:34.840 --> 01:36:36.439 and you should be set. I think they did a 2148 01:36:36.479 --> 01:36:37.279 pretty good job with that. 2149 01:36:37.279 --> 01:36:39.279 That's bluepoint, right, was it. 2150 01:36:39.319 --> 01:36:39.880 I think it was. 2151 01:36:40.039 --> 01:36:40.840 Yeah, that's about right. 2152 01:36:40.920 --> 01:36:43.520 Yeah, so yeah, I have that still someone They've done 2153 01:36:43.520 --> 01:36:45.279 a few of those, the HG collections and stuff back 2154 01:36:45.279 --> 01:36:46.960 in the day and everything. But I think, you know, 2155 01:36:47.159 --> 01:36:49.279 just go ahead and get that one on Steam. Cool. 2156 01:36:49.479 --> 01:36:52.159 Thank you, j I love hearing people's thought. Please email 2157 01:36:52.239 --> 01:36:54.600 back Tim, because like anyone playing Metal Gear Solid for 2158 01:36:54.640 --> 01:36:57.880 the first time now I heard everything, Like I hear 2159 01:36:57.960 --> 01:37:01.119 more people say like, oh, it's actually still really fucking cool. 2160 01:37:01.159 --> 01:37:03.159 Like obviously some like controls and things like that are 2161 01:37:03.199 --> 01:37:05.640 a little dated, but like people tend to still really 2162 01:37:05.720 --> 01:37:07.439 like Blaneham as old as they are. 2163 01:37:07.239 --> 01:37:09.640 Tonally, and just like vibe wise, I think it's still 2164 01:37:09.800 --> 01:37:13.960 it still hits really well, Yeah, I'd be curious as well. 2165 01:37:14.239 --> 01:37:16.840 Thank you, Tim uh Mary? Do you want to read 2166 01:37:16.840 --> 01:37:19.359 this one from Doc Sure? 2167 01:37:20.439 --> 01:37:23.720 Greetings everyone. Dan's story about the seven to eleven got 2168 01:37:23.720 --> 01:37:26.319 me thinking. I was in New Orleans for my wife's 2169 01:37:26.359 --> 01:37:28.279 b day two years ago with her friends. We were 2170 01:37:28.319 --> 01:37:30.920 out with a big group of people, drinking, eating, having fun. 2171 01:37:31.039 --> 01:37:32.239 We live near Nola. 2172 01:37:32.319 --> 01:37:33.640 At the end of the night, I ended up at 2173 01:37:33.640 --> 01:37:36.279 the casino with a friend of mine. As the night ended, 2174 01:37:36.319 --> 01:37:38.279 we left the casino and I cracked a joke about 2175 01:37:38.319 --> 01:37:43.359 my friends coworker looking like Greek Jesus. Apparently he didn't 2176 01:37:43.520 --> 01:37:46.319 like this joke and pulled a knife out and held. 2177 01:37:46.119 --> 01:37:47.039 It to my neck. 2178 01:37:47.479 --> 01:37:50.680 My god, my buddy pulled him off of me and 2179 01:37:50.720 --> 01:37:53.039 I pieced out instantly. First and last time I will 2180 01:37:53.039 --> 01:37:54.960 hang out with someone I suspect of. 2181 01:37:55.319 --> 01:37:57.520 Using coke as well. 2182 01:37:57.600 --> 01:38:01.239 Anyway, have you all ever had your death experience or 2183 01:38:01.319 --> 01:38:04.439 times you did a hard retrospective on your life after 2184 01:38:04.479 --> 01:38:05.720 a major thing happened to you? 2185 01:38:06.479 --> 01:38:09.840 Doc Hensla, Well, first, what was the seven eleven story? 2186 01:38:09.880 --> 01:38:11.880 I don't remember that you were coming back from a 2187 01:38:11.920 --> 01:38:14.000 seven to eleven in LA and the homeless person. 2188 01:38:14.119 --> 01:38:16.840 Oh, the recent one. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, okay, seeah. 2189 01:38:16.560 --> 01:38:18.840 It could be like any of your seven eleven stories 2190 01:38:18.840 --> 01:38:21.359 where you like choked on a hot dog or something like. 2191 01:38:21.439 --> 01:38:23.239 No, the closest eleven. 2192 01:38:23.920 --> 01:38:26.279 The closest to near death experiences I've had are when 2193 01:38:26.359 --> 01:38:29.399 like I see that I'm about to break a bone 2194 01:38:29.439 --> 01:38:33.079 in real time and time kind of slows down. That's 2195 01:38:33.079 --> 01:38:35.720 happened several times. I also took a ninety eight mile 2196 01:38:35.760 --> 01:38:38.840 an hour shot in lacrosse to my lower back that 2197 01:38:38.920 --> 01:38:41.920 ruptured the muscles down and fractured my tailbones. 2198 01:38:42.039 --> 01:38:44.000 Were you telling me about that? That sounded very bad? 2199 01:38:44.279 --> 01:38:46.079 I didn't. I didn't think I was gonna die. But 2200 01:38:46.119 --> 01:38:48.760 the pain from my tailbum being fractured for the next 2201 01:38:48.800 --> 01:38:51.079 two weeks, the spasms going up my bad. I won't 2202 01:38:51.079 --> 01:38:57.119 get too graphic. That made me, honestly that I was like, Oh, 2203 01:38:57.279 --> 01:38:59.279 I re examined my whole life, like I don't care 2204 01:38:59.319 --> 01:39:02.640 Aboutlacross is my I thought, I did, I'm gonna go 2205 01:39:02.680 --> 01:39:04.600 figure things out. Oh what wait a minute, I can 2206 01:39:04.600 --> 01:39:06.920 get I can make fifty dollars to review a video game, 2207 01:39:06.960 --> 01:39:10.159 and then yeah, the rest is history. That is that. 2208 01:39:10.159 --> 01:39:12.279 That is something that I think is probably I can't 2209 01:39:12.279 --> 01:39:14.279 speak for all sports, but like knowing wrestlers and stuff, 2210 01:39:14.279 --> 01:39:16.239 I know, like you know big ee who this guy 2211 01:39:16.239 --> 01:39:18.840 who broke his neck on national TV and like talking 2212 01:39:18.840 --> 01:39:21.039 to him about it and stuff. It's just like yeah, 2213 01:39:21.319 --> 01:39:23.960 like something like that, like a serious, serious injury will 2214 01:39:23.960 --> 01:39:26.800 make you reconsider everything for sure, and for good reason. 2215 01:39:27.159 --> 01:39:29.399 Yeah, there's been as I also like went over this 2216 01:39:29.479 --> 01:39:32.439 dirt ramp we made on my like BMX bike when 2217 01:39:32.479 --> 01:39:37.039 I was twelve, and I as I was coming off, 2218 01:39:37.119 --> 01:39:40.039 I knew right away I was getting way too much air, 2219 01:39:40.199 --> 01:39:42.199 like I was getting actual air, and I did not 2220 01:39:42.359 --> 01:39:44.479 know how at all to deal with it. Like I'm 2221 01:39:44.479 --> 01:39:46.880 not fucking Matt. What was his name? What was the 2222 01:39:46.880 --> 01:39:49.920 BMX the famous one, Matt Kaufman. I'm like, I'm not Matt. 2223 01:39:50.000 --> 01:39:52.000 I said that out loud in mid air to my friends, 2224 01:39:52.159 --> 01:39:54.840 like I'm not Matt. No, I didn't, but like I 2225 01:39:54.880 --> 01:39:57.399 fell off my bike and I was like sixteen feet 2226 01:39:57.399 --> 01:39:59.039 in the air. I might I don't know, I might 2227 01:39:59.039 --> 01:40:00.520 be over so I might be under selling it, but 2228 01:40:00.560 --> 01:40:04.239 I knew as I was falling. I consciously it was like, well, 2229 01:40:04.239 --> 01:40:06.239 I know I should technically kind of rag doll right 2230 01:40:06.239 --> 01:40:08.039 now because I stand more of a chance to not 2231 01:40:08.119 --> 01:40:11.239 break anything, and I still broke some stuff, But like 2232 01:40:12.039 --> 01:40:14.000 I there was a flash where I was like I 2233 01:40:14.199 --> 01:40:16.199 might die if I land on my bike the wrong way, 2234 01:40:16.239 --> 01:40:18.600 and I was also going downhill after the ramp. It 2235 01:40:18.600 --> 01:40:23.239 was a terrible situation that we created for ourselves. Yeah, 2236 01:40:23.279 --> 01:40:25.399 it's all like I've been in a couple of minor 2237 01:40:25.520 --> 01:40:28.760 car accidents. Those weren't that they weren't scary accidents. It 2238 01:40:28.840 --> 01:40:30.560 was more like snow involved stuff. 2239 01:40:31.840 --> 01:40:33.600 That's a recurring dream I have, is like there's something 2240 01:40:33.640 --> 01:40:35.479 that's like a bike or a something where it's like 2241 01:40:35.520 --> 01:40:37.920 I ramp off of something and I'm so high in 2242 01:40:37.960 --> 01:40:40.560 the air or I have enough time to think like, oh, 2243 01:40:40.680 --> 01:40:43.000 I don't know, I'm fucked. I'm just I'm gonna have 2244 01:40:43.000 --> 01:40:45.159 to land here in like ten seconds. I'm super gonna die. 2245 01:40:45.359 --> 01:40:48.920 Yeah to metaphor, I feel like the time I most 2246 01:40:48.960 --> 01:40:50.800 thought I was going to die was when my friend 2247 01:40:50.840 --> 01:40:52.640 was breaking into my place at the knife, which I've 2248 01:40:52.680 --> 01:40:55.479 surely told that sorry before seemed like I was definitely 2249 01:40:55.479 --> 01:40:58.479 going to get stabbed to death for that, and question 2250 01:40:58.560 --> 01:41:01.319 saying do you ever do a hard retrospective and changed 2251 01:41:01.359 --> 01:41:03.399 things afterwards? H no, we kept one of the bars 2252 01:41:03.399 --> 01:41:07.560 after that, So yeah, that was probably the closest to death. 2253 01:41:07.600 --> 01:41:07.840 I am. 2254 01:41:08.199 --> 01:41:10.560 Yeah, I don't know. 2255 01:41:10.560 --> 01:41:14.000 If I've ever had it close to death. I think 2256 01:41:14.039 --> 01:41:16.920 the closest is like, and this isn't very close. On 2257 01:41:17.000 --> 01:41:21.359 the way home from I think my first Japan trip. 2258 01:41:21.840 --> 01:41:25.600 We had such crazy turbulence on that flight that I 2259 01:41:25.680 --> 01:41:30.359 actually got out my phone app and like wrote some 2260 01:41:30.520 --> 01:41:34.399 drafts of like really it was so fucking bad, and 2261 01:41:34.439 --> 01:41:37.680 like the guy was like even on the on the 2262 01:41:38.960 --> 01:41:42.680 uh speaker, he was like just you guys know, like 2263 01:41:42.800 --> 01:41:45.680 this is normal, nothing out of the ordinary. He was 2264 01:41:45.720 --> 01:41:48.159 trying to reassure us that it was fine, but it 2265 01:41:48.319 --> 01:41:52.239 was just so dippy. I'm talking about where the plane 2266 01:41:52.399 --> 01:41:55.359 yea dips and you kind of feel your stomach and 2267 01:41:55.960 --> 01:41:56.479 a little bit. 2268 01:41:57.199 --> 01:42:01.359 It happened all the time, like consistently through the. 2269 01:42:01.279 --> 01:42:01.800 Flight, and. 2270 01:42:03.520 --> 01:42:07.399 Yes, Francisco, it was hours. 2271 01:42:07.479 --> 01:42:11.600 It was hours of like extreme where it got to 2272 01:42:11.640 --> 01:42:15.119 the point where I was like writing notes to people, 2273 01:42:15.439 --> 01:42:18.880 simple notes, not like you know, not like full retrospectives, 2274 01:42:18.880 --> 01:42:21.439 but just like Mom, I love you so much, like 2275 01:42:21.479 --> 01:42:23.039 I think about you all the time. I was like 2276 01:42:23.119 --> 01:42:25.680 literally like telling people I loved them because it was 2277 01:42:25.720 --> 01:42:29.039 freaking me out. That's like it was psychologically fucking with 2278 01:42:29.079 --> 01:42:31.359 me after hours of turbulence. 2279 01:42:31.359 --> 01:42:32.439 I think that's the closest. 2280 01:42:32.479 --> 01:42:36.319 I don't think I've ever had someone pull a knife 2281 01:42:36.359 --> 01:42:43.920 on me, and I've never like almost died by doing anything. 2282 01:42:44.119 --> 01:42:45.239 The closest is like. 2283 01:42:45.399 --> 01:42:48.079 I I was a gymnast for many years, you know, 2284 01:42:48.199 --> 01:42:51.319 and one time I undercut a pass, like a tumbling pass, 2285 01:42:51.840 --> 01:42:54.840 and when I hit I like basically popped like both 2286 01:42:54.880 --> 01:42:58.399 of my ankles at the same time. That was very 2287 01:42:58.439 --> 01:43:02.359 severe for me, but I was like, I wasn't like this. 2288 01:43:02.199 --> 01:43:09.359 Is it my mom? I love her, I'm gonna miss you. 2289 01:43:09.479 --> 01:43:14.319 Like I basically was like, fuck, my ankles are fucking shattered, 2290 01:43:14.600 --> 01:43:15.680 And I was fine. 2291 01:43:15.840 --> 01:43:19.199 Mary's just shouting yates midway through a triple flips, like, 2292 01:43:19.479 --> 01:43:19.920 do not. 2293 01:43:19.840 --> 01:43:24.359 Go quiet, tell my mom, I love her. Like I 2294 01:43:25.319 --> 01:43:25.840 was fine. 2295 01:43:25.880 --> 01:43:29.319 But it was an extraordinary pain, and it did ultimately 2296 01:43:29.359 --> 01:43:34.560 like alter forever my ability to do gymnastics and like 2297 01:43:35.039 --> 01:43:38.800 even my ability to walk to this day, if something 2298 01:43:39.079 --> 01:43:41.640 tweaks my ankle wrong, I will just fall over. So 2299 01:43:41.680 --> 01:43:44.840 it's like it's been kind of like a permanent change 2300 01:43:44.880 --> 01:43:46.000 to my physical being. 2301 01:43:46.119 --> 01:43:48.039 But yeah, I'm very fortunate. 2302 01:43:48.119 --> 01:43:50.960 I've never been like so sick that I thought, Mike, 2303 01:43:51.079 --> 01:43:54.319 something might happen to me. And I've never been as 2304 01:43:54.359 --> 01:43:56.640 far as I can remember. Maybe I blocked that memory out, 2305 01:43:56.640 --> 01:43:57.960 but like as far as I can remember, like, I 2306 01:43:58.000 --> 01:43:59.319 don't think anyone's ever tried. 2307 01:43:59.079 --> 01:44:03.960 To like yeat me. So I feel pretty good about that. 2308 01:44:04.199 --> 01:44:07.960 But man, I mean I will say even even that 2309 01:44:08.000 --> 01:44:12.399 one like flight, when you think you're gonna go, the 2310 01:44:12.439 --> 01:44:15.000 first thing that went through my mind was I want 2311 01:44:15.000 --> 01:44:17.359 to make sure the people who were like really meaningful 2312 01:44:17.399 --> 01:44:21.239 in my life know And I just started thinking about 2313 01:44:21.239 --> 01:44:23.119 the things of like how much they mean to me 2314 01:44:23.159 --> 01:44:25.039 and how important they were, so that it doesn't just 2315 01:44:25.439 --> 01:44:27.680 not happen. Like that's what I would do if someone 2316 01:44:27.800 --> 01:44:30.199 like if I thought I was gonna die, I think 2317 01:44:30.239 --> 01:44:32.119 I would be, like, I gotta call my mom and 2318 01:44:32.119 --> 01:44:33.399 tell her she was the best mom. 2319 01:44:33.239 --> 01:44:33.840 In the whole world. 2320 01:44:34.199 --> 01:44:36.239 I mean that is like not to get dark here, 2321 01:44:36.239 --> 01:44:37.279 but like I don't know if you guys have been 2322 01:44:37.279 --> 01:44:39.000 to the nine to eleven Museum, but the thing that 2323 01:44:39.239 --> 01:44:42.159 obviously it's a very heavy place to go to anyway. 2324 01:44:41.880 --> 01:44:43.520 Yeah, people called their family. 2325 01:44:43.760 --> 01:44:45.640 That is the thing that like that has stuck with me, 2326 01:44:45.800 --> 01:44:48.840 like it's an incredibly effective museum, Like, but there's this 2327 01:44:48.880 --> 01:44:50.680 partler where it's like, as you're walking through certain things 2328 01:44:50.720 --> 01:44:53.640 where you can pick up phones and you're hearing actual 2329 01:44:53.760 --> 01:44:57.560 voicemails from people that were on the flights being like, Hey, 2330 01:44:57.920 --> 01:44:59.960 I don't know what's going on. It's not looking good. 2331 01:45:00.199 --> 01:45:01.680 I kind of heard there was some stuff going on. 2332 01:45:02.239 --> 01:45:05.319 They've got the plane, I see buildings and water, and 2333 01:45:05.359 --> 01:45:07.800 it's just like, oh my god, Like they were able 2334 01:45:07.840 --> 01:45:09.720 to like you know, call with the satellite phones or something. 2335 01:45:09.720 --> 01:45:13.920 And hearing the actual like that has been Uh, that's 2336 01:45:13.960 --> 01:45:16.359 maybe the most like just kind of gut wrenching, just like, 2337 01:45:16.479 --> 01:45:18.840 holy shit. Thing I think I've ever heard is those 2338 01:45:18.920 --> 01:45:19.880 voicemail recordings. 2339 01:45:20.840 --> 01:45:27.439 Yeah, that's the kind of stuff that's like, Yeah, when 2340 01:45:27.479 --> 01:45:30.199 you hear someone who knows that the end's coming and 2341 01:45:30.239 --> 01:45:32.720 the way that they deal with it, it's like you 2342 01:45:32.760 --> 01:45:35.520 have a lot of admiration for how some people handle it, 2343 01:45:35.560 --> 01:45:36.800 which is just yeah. 2344 01:45:37.359 --> 01:45:38.720 I'd be doing a lot of screaming. 2345 01:45:38.760 --> 01:45:40.800 I'd be streaming a lot. 2346 01:45:41.520 --> 01:45:43.520 When I broke both my ankles at the same time, 2347 01:45:43.680 --> 01:45:49.840 I wasn't like cool at all. I won the cursing 2348 01:45:49.840 --> 01:45:54.319 award that year for the most cursing because I would 2349 01:45:54.319 --> 01:45:57.279 not stop saying fuck is they like drug me off 2350 01:45:57.319 --> 01:45:57.960 the floor. 2351 01:45:58.119 --> 01:46:03.880 It was fuck, fuck you, thank you, fuck you too 2352 01:46:04.640 --> 01:46:09.279 already said it to you with fuck you mom, fuck fuck. 2353 01:46:09.119 --> 01:46:13.960 You my I was I starting to encourage me to 2354 01:46:14.000 --> 01:46:14.439 pursue this. 2355 01:46:16.479 --> 01:46:18.239 I can't believe he's told me this is a good hobby. 2356 01:46:18.319 --> 01:46:26.720 It's been a real fucking asshole of a day. Oh God, 2357 01:46:26.760 --> 01:46:29.960 we covered some ground in the last sixty seconds. Yeah, wow, 2358 01:46:31.199 --> 01:46:34.920 Well thank you. Uh. Also, I'm embarrassed I said that 2359 01:46:34.960 --> 01:46:36.880 poem is Yets. It was Dylan Thomas. 2360 01:46:37.640 --> 01:46:40.600 We were judging you, but we weren't gonna say anything. 2361 01:46:40.720 --> 01:46:44.479 I'm sorry to the Irish people and the Welsh people 2362 01:46:45.119 --> 01:46:48.039 who I offended for that one. I feel bad. Thank 2363 01:46:48.039 --> 01:46:52.239 you doc last one. We've gotten some like we've gotten 2364 01:46:52.239 --> 01:46:53.880 a bunch like these in the last few years, but 2365 01:46:53.960 --> 01:46:55.560 it's been a while, so figured it might actually be 2366 01:46:55.600 --> 01:46:58.000 good to re up because more people are traveling to Portland, 2367 01:46:58.000 --> 01:47:00.720 New York, et cetera that we haven't told so Hello 2368 01:47:00.760 --> 01:47:03.279 fire escapers. Mary, my best friend and I are going 2369 01:47:03.319 --> 01:47:05.520 to Oregon this summer. Other than bowling and getting our 2370 01:47:05.560 --> 01:47:12.199 holes filled holes drilled? What are the must sorry sat there, 2371 01:47:12.720 --> 01:47:15.520 other than bowling and getting our holes drilled? What are 2372 01:47:15.520 --> 01:47:18.000 the must see and do things in the state and 2373 01:47:18.039 --> 01:47:20.319 in Portland? Mike and Dan, my friend and I aren't 2374 01:47:20.319 --> 01:47:22.560 traveling to New York City or the woodpecker infested backwards 2375 01:47:22.600 --> 01:47:24.760 of Minnesota. But still, what do you usually recommend to 2376 01:47:24.760 --> 01:47:27.039 people who travel your states and cities? Thanks for escaping 2377 01:47:27.079 --> 01:47:29.359 fires for us every two weeks. Alex from Dallas. 2378 01:47:31.119 --> 01:47:35.439 When people come to Portland, I usually say, I'm not 2379 01:47:35.479 --> 01:47:37.840 going to literally tell you where to go, but there 2380 01:47:37.840 --> 01:47:44.439 are so many good, excellent food and drink spots. Specifically, 2381 01:47:44.439 --> 01:47:47.359 we're really known for coffee, pizza. 2382 01:47:47.079 --> 01:47:50.880 And donuts. I will give you a couple just to 2383 01:47:50.880 --> 01:47:51.680 get you started. 2384 01:47:51.760 --> 01:47:54.279 But I think what I really want to emphasize is 2385 01:47:54.439 --> 01:47:56.000 you don't have to go to the spots. 2386 01:47:56.119 --> 01:48:00.319 I'm just saying, like, research those three places. 2387 01:48:00.399 --> 01:48:06.520 Because there's infinite amazing places within those three things coffee, pizza, 2388 01:48:06.560 --> 01:48:07.920 and donuts, and you will be happy. 2389 01:48:09.319 --> 01:48:11.479 For coffee. I really like Soro Sorow Cafe. 2390 01:48:11.720 --> 01:48:15.079 They are a like local mom and mom and pop 2391 01:48:15.760 --> 01:48:20.199 Japanese style coffee. They do the coffees with like little 2392 01:48:21.520 --> 01:48:27.119 like bears or cat faces in the milk. It's adorable 2393 01:48:27.359 --> 01:48:30.239 and you can, like literally they're always working there. It's 2394 01:48:30.279 --> 01:48:33.439 always like the husband and wife working there. They're so cute. 2395 01:48:33.439 --> 01:48:39.119 I just adore them. For pizza, I like a pizza shoals. 2396 01:48:40.119 --> 01:48:43.560 There's like five dozen different types of pizza. Ranch pizzas 2397 01:48:43.640 --> 01:48:44.520 fucking crazy. 2398 01:48:44.600 --> 01:48:48.159 It's it's so delicious, and they do make their own 2399 01:48:48.159 --> 01:48:48.880 homemade ranch. 2400 01:48:49.159 --> 01:48:49.720 Yes. Please. 2401 01:48:52.159 --> 01:48:55.560 For donuts, Sesame Donuts is the casual donut place, but 2402 01:48:55.640 --> 01:48:57.479 you can also get bougie donuts. 2403 01:48:57.119 --> 01:48:57.800 From Blue Star. 2404 01:48:58.680 --> 01:49:01.119 Take your pick, and then go to a freaking park 2405 01:49:01.840 --> 01:49:06.319 and enjoy the beautiful parks there. And then the other 2406 01:49:06.359 --> 01:49:08.800 thing I always recommend is go on a trip through 2407 01:49:08.840 --> 01:49:11.479 the Gorge. That's what I always take guests. When Dan 2408 01:49:11.600 --> 01:49:13.359 and Mike come, I was like, you're going to the 2409 01:49:13.359 --> 01:49:16.199 Gorge and you guys can probably attest. It's one of 2410 01:49:16.239 --> 01:49:19.359 the most beautiful places on Earth. No matter where I've traveled, 2411 01:49:19.680 --> 01:49:22.960 and I've traveled a lot in my years, I'm very fortunate. 2412 01:49:23.239 --> 01:49:25.960 I still think the most beautiful place on Earth is 2413 01:49:26.600 --> 01:49:30.680 the Gorge, where you can like look at over two 2414 01:49:30.760 --> 01:49:34.520 dozen waterfalls and just hang up by the river. It's 2415 01:49:34.560 --> 01:49:37.680 stunning and it's just so beautiful. It's it's heaven. It's 2416 01:49:37.680 --> 01:49:38.640 heaven on earth, you guys. 2417 01:49:38.800 --> 01:49:40.039 Yeah, Awes, it was great. 2418 01:49:40.159 --> 01:49:42.159 Every time we turn a corner the view got better. 2419 01:49:43.119 --> 01:49:46.000 Also, Portland, like that breakfast place you told us about, 2420 01:49:46.000 --> 01:49:47.960 Mary like that, I'm still thinking about those business and 2421 01:49:48.000 --> 01:49:49.520 biscuits and gravy I had, and like that was like 2422 01:49:49.560 --> 01:49:50.479 the best breakfast I've had. 2423 01:49:50.520 --> 01:49:53.479 And for it, I have so many recommendations and a 2424 01:49:53.479 --> 01:49:55.680 lot of it depends on like what you ask me, right, 2425 01:49:58.079 --> 01:50:02.159 But yeah, Dan, one time is asking me for a 2426 01:50:02.199 --> 01:50:06.760 good breakfast place, and I said Pine State Biscuits, and 2427 01:50:06.800 --> 01:50:10.560 it was and it is good. It's consistently fucking awesome. 2428 01:50:10.760 --> 01:50:12.039 So yeah, I'm glad. 2429 01:50:12.000 --> 01:50:14.760 Of the biscuits, the grave, all that just incredible, incredible. 2430 01:50:14.800 --> 01:50:16.439 It means a lot to me because I have a 2431 01:50:16.439 --> 01:50:18.239 lot of pride in this city. I think it really 2432 01:50:18.279 --> 01:50:20.079 is amazing. So when people visit me, I'm like, God, 2433 01:50:20.079 --> 01:50:22.560 I hope they have a good time. But you and 2434 01:50:22.760 --> 01:50:26.960 Bonk and Bank wrote me the nicest, loveliest note. I 2435 01:50:26.960 --> 01:50:29.319 don't know if I've ever said this story before, and 2436 01:50:29.399 --> 01:50:31.840 I think I just didn't see it for like a 2437 01:50:31.920 --> 01:50:32.680 long time. 2438 01:50:33.199 --> 01:50:34.239 And when I finally read it. 2439 01:50:34.239 --> 01:50:37.119 I was like, this is so meaningful and so sweet, 2440 01:50:37.159 --> 01:50:38.640 and I think I told you when you were like, yeah, 2441 01:50:38.640 --> 01:50:40.680 I don't think you like responded in a while, and 2442 01:50:40.720 --> 01:50:42.840 she thought maybe it was like that she like was 2443 01:50:42.920 --> 01:50:44.840 rude or misspoke, and I was like, I am the 2444 01:50:44.880 --> 01:50:48.399 worst friend ever, but I just didn't see it for 2445 01:50:48.479 --> 01:50:51.960 like weeks. Sometimes I leave messages on red for like weeks. 2446 01:50:53.199 --> 01:50:54.119 It's not no, it. 2447 01:50:54.119 --> 01:50:56.199 Meant so she loved it, and yeah, that whole trip 2448 01:50:56.199 --> 01:50:57.640 meant a lot to us. 2449 01:50:57.680 --> 01:51:01.199 So nice when people like say this recommendation or like 2450 01:51:01.239 --> 01:51:06.039 whatever is meaningful. So if you go to Portland, it 2451 01:51:06.039 --> 01:51:10.119 sounds like you are Alex in Dallas, feel free to. 2452 01:51:10.079 --> 01:51:12.239 Like message me what you ended up doing. 2453 01:51:12.520 --> 01:51:15.319 I really do love it when someone does take me 2454 01:51:15.399 --> 01:51:17.079 up on a recommendation and said, yes, I went to 2455 01:51:17.119 --> 01:51:21.840 a park and I had a pizza, shoals or you know, 2456 01:51:21.880 --> 01:51:23.880 whatever it is you end up doing. I hope you 2457 01:51:23.960 --> 01:51:25.840 enjoy yourself. I adore this town. 2458 01:51:26.840 --> 01:51:30.600 Yeah, I would say for New York City, it's like, 2459 01:51:32.399 --> 01:51:34.319 I think the thing you can do that not everybody 2460 01:51:34.359 --> 01:51:36.560 does because everybody wants to like do all the big 2461 01:51:36.560 --> 01:51:38.760 neighborhoods in one day. And if it's their first time. 2462 01:51:38.800 --> 01:51:40.600 They want to do Times Square, but then they also 2463 01:51:40.600 --> 01:51:43.359 want to pop down and see Wall Street. The thing 2464 01:51:43.399 --> 01:51:46.560 you could do that I one of the reasons I 2465 01:51:46.560 --> 01:51:49.079 love New York is I'm still stumbling into like little 2466 01:51:49.079 --> 01:51:51.279 neighborhoods that I have never been in before, and it 2467 01:51:51.319 --> 01:51:55.439 becomes my favorite neighborhood. I think New York's individual neighborhoods 2468 01:51:55.479 --> 01:51:57.680 have such distinct identities. One thing you can do, if 2469 01:51:57.720 --> 01:52:00.239 you have the time, pick one day and then pick 2470 01:52:00.359 --> 01:52:05.239 like the West Village or the East Village or Lower 2471 01:52:05.239 --> 01:52:07.640 east Side or somewhere in Brooklyn. If you're gonna go 2472 01:52:07.920 --> 01:52:12.520 to Green Point or Red Hook or Upper west Side, 2473 01:52:12.800 --> 01:52:15.680 pick a neighborhood and just make a few reservations there, 2474 01:52:16.119 --> 01:52:18.239 find a few bars you want to pop into. I 2475 01:52:18.239 --> 01:52:21.079 think it's really fun to get the feel of a 2476 01:52:21.119 --> 01:52:23.159 single neighborhood in New York, and you can't really do 2477 01:52:23.199 --> 01:52:25.000 that if you're going in for dinner and then then 2478 01:52:25.039 --> 01:52:27.359 you're jumping on the subway to go all the way downtown. 2479 01:52:29.680 --> 01:52:33.039 Say the West Village, tree lined streets, really like small 2480 01:52:33.079 --> 01:52:35.720 bars and restaurants, so you could pop into really local feel. 2481 01:52:36.079 --> 01:52:39.359 Ignore the fucking West Village girl story from the from 2482 01:52:39.399 --> 01:52:42.800 New York Magazine, Like, I hate that kind of person 2483 01:52:42.920 --> 01:52:44.760 just as much as most people do when they run 2484 01:52:44.760 --> 01:52:46.399 into them in the village. There are a lot of 2485 01:52:46.399 --> 01:52:50.199 cool people there, Upper West Sides amazing. Just get like 2486 01:52:50.399 --> 01:52:52.920 ensconce yourself in one neighborhood for a day if you 2487 01:52:52.960 --> 01:52:55.000 have like a spare Saturday on the trip. I think 2488 01:52:55.079 --> 01:52:57.600 is how my recommendation for New. 2489 01:52:57.560 --> 01:53:03.239 York Minneapolis is weird in that, like it's not like 2490 01:53:03.600 --> 01:53:05.680 it's tourist friendly, like you're gonna have a good time, 2491 01:53:05.680 --> 01:53:07.760 but it's not like a New York or San Francisco 2492 01:53:07.880 --> 01:53:09.359 or something where it's like there's the obvious. If you 2493 01:53:09.359 --> 01:53:11.039 go to San Francisco, it's like, Okay, we're gonna go 2494 01:53:11.039 --> 01:53:13.119 to lands End. You're gonna go check out this bridge 2495 01:53:13.399 --> 01:53:16.680 or this part of town. Like It's Minneapolis, I think 2496 01:53:16.720 --> 01:53:18.800 is an amazing place to live. It's maybe not the 2497 01:53:18.800 --> 01:53:21.560 most obvious, great place to visit for just a few days, 2498 01:53:21.560 --> 01:53:23.199 but if you are just visiting for a few days. 2499 01:53:23.399 --> 01:53:25.000 Some of my fair of places to go, which I've 2500 01:53:25.039 --> 01:53:28.159 taken you guys to some of these, Dario is a 2501 01:53:28.199 --> 01:53:30.640 place in Northeast I'm going there tomorrow. It's me and 2502 01:53:30.680 --> 01:53:34.319 Bunks anniversary and so we're gonna go tomorrow. It is 2503 01:53:34.359 --> 01:53:36.159 my favorite place to eat in the city. It's a 2504 01:53:36.199 --> 01:53:39.479 pasta place in Northeast. It's fucking incredible. They have this 2505 01:53:39.880 --> 01:53:42.920 order the Dopeio get a bunch of different places. Its off. 2506 01:53:42.960 --> 01:53:46.199 The Dopio is this weird like pasta thing where it's 2507 01:53:46.199 --> 01:53:49.159 like two little pockets and like one of them is 2508 01:53:49.199 --> 01:53:53.159 like yeah, like vertical raviolis and it's got like rosemary 2509 01:53:53.239 --> 01:53:55.760 and one fold and like ricata and the other and 2510 01:53:55.840 --> 01:53:58.279 all these like seasons. It's just it's every I'm like 2511 01:53:58.359 --> 01:53:59.800 angry every time I buy it into them, like how 2512 01:53:59.880 --> 01:54:01.600 is it this? Fucking yeah? This is the dope always, 2513 01:54:01.640 --> 01:54:03.000 like my favorite thing that you And they're. 2514 01:54:02.880 --> 01:54:05.399 Stamped at the ends with the with the with the metal, 2515 01:54:05.479 --> 01:54:07.399 so they like are bound, but there's still the pot 2516 01:54:07.479 --> 01:54:09.760 the hole between them so they are separate. Yeah, it's impressive. 2517 01:54:10.039 --> 01:54:11.840 It's insane how good of is and just just order 2518 01:54:11.880 --> 01:54:15.039 a bunch of plates of appetizers and salads and pasta dishes. 2519 01:54:15.079 --> 01:54:18.000 It's so fucking good. Also, if you just want a 2520 01:54:18.039 --> 01:54:21.439 good ass burger and fries like Matt's Bar the Juicy. 2521 01:54:21.479 --> 01:54:22.760 If you're going to a Juicy Lucy. If you wanna 2522 01:54:22.760 --> 01:54:24.760 do the gimmick thing, it's very very good. Go to 2523 01:54:24.800 --> 01:54:28.319 Matt's Bar. You guys have had the Juicy Loozy It's delicious. 2524 01:54:28.479 --> 01:54:33.159 But I actually think Lions Tap is better. Yeah, it's 2525 01:54:33.199 --> 01:54:34.960 out in Eden Prairie. I took both you and Jake 2526 01:54:35.000 --> 01:54:39.199 there and just all they have is like beer, burgers 2527 01:54:39.279 --> 01:54:42.079 and fries and that's it. And it is just so 2528 01:54:42.359 --> 01:54:44.479 fucking good, lots of space to sit down everything. It's 2529 01:54:44.600 --> 01:54:46.720 very kind of like Divy felis just on the side 2530 01:54:46.720 --> 01:54:49.199 of the road it is. Lion's Tap is like my 2531 01:54:49.199 --> 01:54:53.079 favorite burger in the city. Breakfast Scramble an Egg is 2532 01:54:53.119 --> 01:54:55.720 this place that has incredible breakfast sandwiches and everything. And 2533 01:54:55.720 --> 01:54:57.840 if you go to Northeast Minneapolis, which is a great 2534 01:54:57.840 --> 01:54:59.119 spot if you just want to bar hop and all 2535 01:54:59.159 --> 01:55:01.800 that stuff, start a night by going to Spring Street 2536 01:55:01.840 --> 01:55:04.000 Tavern and get some spring Wings. I took you both there. 2537 01:55:04.039 --> 01:55:06.199 That's where we saw birds and everything. And then you 2538 01:55:06.239 --> 01:55:08.800 walk over to Veggas Lounge for some karaoke and some 2539 01:55:08.920 --> 01:55:12.159 Northeast afterwards. But yeah, Spring Street Tavern, great Wings, walk 2540 01:55:12.199 --> 01:55:14.159 over to Vegas Lounge for karaoke, and then if you 2541 01:55:14.159 --> 01:55:16.239 just have like an afternoon. Go to the Chain of Lakes, 2542 01:55:16.479 --> 01:55:18.960 walk around beautiful beautiful Lakes, A lot of cool stuff 2543 01:55:18.960 --> 01:55:21.039 around there. Go to Sebastian Joe's for some ice cream. 2544 01:55:21.359 --> 01:55:24.560 But yeah, it's not like the tourist trap type of city. 2545 01:55:24.760 --> 01:55:26.520 But if you know where to go, there's just a 2546 01:55:26.720 --> 01:55:29.680 million awesome places to eat and explore and walk around 2547 01:55:29.720 --> 01:55:30.640 and I just love it. 2548 01:55:31.520 --> 01:55:35.439 One last specific recommendation, I talk enough about wine. I 2549 01:55:35.520 --> 01:55:38.520 try not to have the podcast, but I do that 2550 01:55:38.600 --> 01:55:40.359 I should recommend there's a lot of wine bars in 2551 01:55:40.399 --> 01:55:44.239 New York. My personal favorite, which I spend a decent 2552 01:55:44.239 --> 01:55:48.000 amount of time at, is called La Company on Center Street. 2553 01:55:48.039 --> 01:55:50.039 There are two. There's one in Flat Iron, one down 2554 01:55:50.039 --> 01:55:53.279 in Soho on Center Street. Go to the Center Street location. 2555 01:55:53.560 --> 01:55:57.720 If you go in, I don't think so. Okay, if 2556 01:55:57.720 --> 01:55:59.800 you go in on Friday wearing a tropical shirt, you 2557 01:55:59.800 --> 01:56:01.880 get five dollars off by the glass wines. 2558 01:56:02.000 --> 01:56:04.600 It's a low How do I determine who decides what's tropical? 2559 01:56:05.159 --> 01:56:07.680 The GM who is Hawaiian and came up with the idea. 2560 01:56:08.000 --> 01:56:10.439 Okay, if I wore my Mario Sunshine shirt. 2561 01:56:11.640 --> 01:56:13.880 I remind me what it Yeah, I think Mario. 2562 01:56:14.199 --> 01:56:17.439 Well, okay, on the shirt Mario is wearing a Hawaiian shirt. 2563 01:56:18.279 --> 01:56:19.840 Yes, I think that would pass, and I think it 2564 01:56:19.880 --> 01:56:23.159 would get. The person who instituted Aloha Fridays is also 2565 01:56:23.640 --> 01:56:26.079 plays games to the point where I think he would 2566 01:56:26.760 --> 01:56:29.079 want a shirt. Yeah, wear Hawaiian shirt on a Friday 2567 01:56:29.119 --> 01:56:31.880 in say Hi to Lailah the bartender. It's an awesome place. 2568 01:56:32.039 --> 01:56:34.760 Despite the name being the full name being La Compa 2569 01:56:35.039 --> 01:56:37.439 de von Son, it is a very down to earth place. 2570 01:56:37.520 --> 01:56:39.640 Like I mentioned, wear Hawaiian shirts on Fridays. They do 2571 01:56:39.760 --> 01:56:43.159 a bunch of like different different turntables. Incredible by the 2572 01:56:43.199 --> 01:56:46.640 glass list. If I might be there hanging out, if 2573 01:56:46.720 --> 01:56:48.880 you want recommendations on the bottle lists, I'd be happy to. 2574 01:56:49.199 --> 01:56:51.079 It's a great spot. It's also a cool, really cool 2575 01:56:51.079 --> 01:56:54.439 little pocket of New York between the hectic chaos of 2576 01:56:54.520 --> 01:56:58.159 Canal Street and the hectic touristy chaos of Spring Street. 2577 01:56:58.199 --> 01:57:00.479 It's like in this little pocket the er if the 2578 01:57:00.840 --> 01:57:03.720 weather's nice, there's tables outside. It's a really great great 2579 01:57:03.760 --> 01:57:06.640 spot with amazing small plates and food. So that's my 2580 01:57:06.720 --> 01:57:10.319 specific recommendation, and the staff is all very cool and 2581 01:57:10.359 --> 01:57:13.239 will answer any questions you have and share their passion 2582 01:57:13.319 --> 01:57:15.079 and they will not be dicks about it. I can 2583 01:57:15.239 --> 01:57:16.439 vouch for each and every one. 2584 01:57:16.359 --> 01:57:18.479 Of them, and we all live in really cool cities. 2585 01:57:18.960 --> 01:57:19.239 We do. 2586 01:57:20.119 --> 01:57:22.800 I like it got three different time zones. To that end, 2587 01:57:22.880 --> 01:57:27.880 Thank you so much for writing in alex uh. And 2588 01:57:28.039 --> 01:57:30.199 with that, that's the end of emails. That's the end 2589 01:57:30.199 --> 01:57:32.279 of our episode. That's Firescape cast at gmail dot com. 2590 01:57:32.359 --> 01:57:36.439 Please please someone remind you what that game was. It's 2591 01:57:36.479 --> 01:57:38.920 been killing He's going to drive me nuts, Dan. I 2592 01:57:39.000 --> 01:57:41.039 will say this if it's another clue. I don't think 2593 01:57:41.079 --> 01:57:42.520 it's a game you would have liked. 2594 01:57:44.119 --> 01:57:45.000 Not Wilder myth. 2595 01:57:45.520 --> 01:57:46.119 No, no, no, no, no. 2596 01:57:46.680 --> 01:57:48.199 That was when you were talking about a lot back 2597 01:57:48.199 --> 01:57:49.159 in the day that I didn't play. 2598 01:57:49.920 --> 01:57:53.119 No, it was Wildermeth was turn based tactics. 2599 01:57:52.800 --> 01:57:56.199 Right, yeah, but it played a side scrolling action game. 2600 01:57:56.239 --> 01:57:57.239 What are you talking about. 2601 01:57:58.119 --> 01:58:00.920 Act I think it might have been a bit too 2602 01:58:01.079 --> 01:58:05.119 cute for you at the time. I got cubes. Yeah, 2603 01:58:05.119 --> 01:58:07.079 I mean you've changed at the time. I just wouldn't. 2604 01:58:07.199 --> 01:58:09.359 I don't. I don't remember talking to anybody else who 2605 01:58:09.439 --> 01:58:11.239 liked it. I think it was a very one off, 2606 01:58:11.399 --> 01:58:14.039 like flash in the pan thing people like like I played. 2607 01:58:14.720 --> 01:58:18.560 Now I'm going to find Toothcomb through my steamless but 2608 01:58:18.680 --> 01:58:20.840 that just takes so long. I don't even know what like, 2609 01:58:22.039 --> 01:58:23.760 I don't know. I'll figure it out, but if anybody 2610 01:58:23.800 --> 01:58:25.520 else knows what it is, like, I loved that game. 2611 01:58:25.560 --> 01:58:28.960 I think it was twenty nineteen or twenty twenty because 2612 01:58:28.960 --> 01:58:30.359 I was definitely back in the East Coast, but not 2613 01:58:30.479 --> 01:58:34.760 for long. So uh, that's it, please tell us. And 2614 01:58:34.920 --> 01:58:39.399 then also we have what is today? 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Streaming on Mondays? 2635 01:59:29.039 --> 01:59:30.960 I had to take two weeks off just because of 2636 01:59:31.039 --> 01:59:34.439 so much work and travel, but I'll be back by 2637 01:59:34.479 --> 01:59:35.800 the time this episode goes live. 2638 01:59:36.600 --> 01:59:41.880 Dan, what about you was a code shifter? I don't 2639 01:59:41.920 --> 01:59:42.199 think so. 2640 01:59:42.760 --> 01:59:46.039 I'm looking stuff up. Oh what am I doing? GiantBomb 2641 01:59:46.239 --> 01:59:49.119 dot com? Check that out or doing a lot of 2642 01:59:49.119 --> 01:59:51.640 good stuff up. They're having a lot of fun Blake Club. 2643 01:59:52.079 --> 01:59:54.239 Mike is about to Actually, by the time this goes up, 2644 01:59:54.239 --> 01:59:56.399 you'll probably have finished Rascal and then I will have 2645 01:59:56.439 --> 01:59:58.279 to play Blake Club next. And I don't know what 2646 01:59:58.399 --> 02:00:00.079 my next game is. The only thing I've heard it 2647 02:00:00.319 --> 02:00:04.079 is they have to research if it's problematic, so I 2648 02:00:04.159 --> 02:00:06.840 don't know what that means. I'm just hoping it's not 2649 02:00:06.920 --> 02:00:09.439 Fugitive Hunter War on Terror because I'm not dressing as 2650 02:00:09.479 --> 02:00:12.000 Bin Laden. But yeah, check out gian Bomb dot com 2651 02:00:12.079 --> 02:00:17.039 and our YouTube and socials and everything and personal towitch cool. 2652 02:00:17.039 --> 02:00:20.000 And also a reminder, we do have merch at Firescape 2653 02:00:20.319 --> 02:00:23.600 merch dot com, fire skip castmerch dot com. I don't know, 2654 02:00:23.840 --> 02:00:26.079 we'll figure it out. Go to our Insta page. You 2655 02:00:26.119 --> 02:00:28.880 can find stuff through there and through our Patreon. Get 2656 02:00:28.920 --> 02:00:32.399 some hot threads. All right, Well that's our episode. We 2657 02:00:32.439 --> 02:00:35.119 will be back in a couple of weeks with episode 2658 02:00:35.239 --> 02:00:38.760 one eleven, and we will be back with more Warhammer 2659 02:00:38.840 --> 02:00:42.079 next week. Stay up to date. We'll see you then. 2660 02:00:42.720 --> 02:01:05.199 Thanks for coming. Bye, thanks bye speak