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Speaker 1: The pekan Yonashow dot com everything's there. Want to welcome

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everyone back to the Peking Yona's show. Well, we're going

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to use the term long arm for an anonymous friend

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who's going to who's joined us to share some information

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that was shared on what is quickly becoming maybe the

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most popular Old Glory Club substack post that we've done

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in our history. So how are you doing long Arm?

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Speaker 2: To be honest, when you reached out to me to

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do this, my first feeling was oh, wonderful, this is

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would be great, and then half a second later I thought, oh, man,

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now we're all in trouble. I'm not enthusiastic about coming

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weighing in on on our thing from this angle, but

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I wrote the piece and I'm I'm very honored to

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be talking with you about this, and I suspect that

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the piece is popular because there's just a lot of

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practical stuff that's useful for people in our thing, and

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just normal people could also take something from what I wrote,

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and not to be unduly afraid of law enforcement, but

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also to know what the landscape is like, what you're

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dealing with, and just basic stuff that can make you

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safer if you know it, and also so you're not

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surprised when when law enforcement acts the way that they

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are trained and have learned through experience to act. It's

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just this is useful stuff, I believe.

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Speaker 1: All right, So this is called the piece is called

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the cops in you we only catch the stupid ones,

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be smart. And it starts off with a I'll read

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this quote. It's a quote from Stormy Stormy Waters. Constant continued,

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What was I saying? What's the term? I'm looking for

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frequent guest on the show. And okay, so this is

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from the Inquisition episode twenty. I don't think I was

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on this episode. I think I was recovering. So all right,

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here's what he said. He said, because of how dangerous

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our society is, all of our guys are packing as

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they should be. So this doubly means if you're concealed carrying,

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cops are your fucking enemy and you need to stay

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away from them. Kyle Rittenhouse, Daniel Penny. All these people

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were arrested, and I bet the arresting officers were white,

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and they don't give a shit because a lady in

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a pantsuit that's a district attorney is going to give

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them a high five and a head pat And that

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district attorney a lady in a pants suit is going

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to shove you into a machine that runs on automation.

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that uh caused you to bring into action. So you know,

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you start off talking about how those of us who

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law enforcement works, and how they're not our ally, they're

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not designed to be our ally. You decided to, you know,

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and I would recommend listening to Astro Flight in general

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and the Inquisition specifically, and really any anytime Stormy Waters

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appears somewhere like some kind of avenging spirit, I would

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just recommend listening to him. He knows what time it

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my piece is saying he's mostly right. You should act

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around you like you are their enemy until they get

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more information. But if you have relationships with cops who

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of them. Again, I'm a pretty weird dude. I'm a

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pretty weird case. But they if they're like anyone in

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the system, anyone in a bureaucratic position of power or

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chick point again elite theory. If a cop is one

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quite so bleak. And if more of them and higher

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if they are integrated into a local executive function where

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the fire chief and the mayor are one of us. Again,

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the more people who are on the level who are

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working together and working locally, then the better our chances

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not getting thrown into the threshing machine. That is the

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the second thing he referred to which I hadn't I

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hadn't heard anybody else refer to these things before on podcasts,

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and our thing, which was fusion centers. Fusion centers are

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essentially offices that are based in regions, and it kind

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of depends on the population of the area they're dealing with.

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fusion center, but some fusion centers govern entire states areas

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only only deals with one county because that county is

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Virgin Islands has one, DC has one, And these fusion

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centers is the the the the hinge between particularly dhs,

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but also FBI, the all the feds. It's their interface

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point with local law enforcement. So it's like a regional

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center where it is local law enforcement and there's local

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law enforcement people at desks in these buildings and they

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are feeding intel up the chain about what's going on

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in their areas. And not very often, but sometimes the

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FEDS will feed commands down the chain, you know. So

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it's like it's like a nervous system, you know. The

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local law enforcement is like the nerves that notice things

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that give information to the brain, and then the brain gives,

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you know, nerve signals for muscles to move, and then

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those local law enforcement agencies can become the nerves that

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make muscles move. They can become the muscle. And there's

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lots of examples in history. And again if you're a

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all the big bad ones where where the Feds come

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to some area and sometimes local law enforcement is very

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happy to cooperate. Sometimes local law enforcement is not cooperative

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but does not obstruct. And I suspect what's going to

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is local law enforcement can actively obstruct federal law enforcement.

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in a kind of media circus enough way, could cause

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a constitutional crisis. And that would be a very likely

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sort of like touch off point for a you know,

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like an insurgency. But by the way, again I also

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quote novel unquote, a local event where there's a conflict

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between the locals in an area who are awake and

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FEDS doing fed things. That's in his fictional sort of

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prophecy of a continental USA insurgency. That's how it's gets

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touched off. It's a very likely touch off point for

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an insurgency if like local law enforcement and they deputize

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people and like you know, stacked up at a road

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into town and said fed's no, you will not do

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the thing you're going to do. So anyway, my piece,

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general helpful stuff. I probably miss some things. And like

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if you're a libtard, if you just if you just

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like if you hate the cops or distrust the cops

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or whatever, you probably know all this stuff already've heard it,

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you know, somewhere else. So just sort of how to

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deal with the cops. Had to be with the cops,

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and I wasn't. I tried my best to. I'm not

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suggesting anyone like defy or mess with or hurt or

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do anything unlawful. I actually was like, if you're dealing

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with the cops, cooperate with them. If they're trying to

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give you a ticket, get the ticket, particularly if you

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have anything illegal on you or anything you don't want

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them to see. Like the best way for you to

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and say thank you, sir, have a nice day, and

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unless something glaring is happening, they probably are just going

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put them in jail. Arresting people and taking them to

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their leadership is happy with them. They're not going to

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it is? And again there's actually quite a wide, a wide,

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a wide bracket of Some cops get paid pretty dang good,

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not know every dumb little law, but the know the

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the citations are annoying. But they want a legal pretense

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to stop people and identify them and see if they're

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you doing something right now? Do you have something on

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you that I could actually arrest you for? And that's

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the cops show up. Yes, the cops are are kind

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but they're also kind of looking around like is there

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anything more juicy? Is there anything they're not telling me?

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the I'm still not very experienced, but it seems to

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composure at all the times, no matter what wacky thing

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and figuring out quickly and deciding how you're going to

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respond to what do I have right now? I'm called

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for something? Am I getting called because of a crime

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or a mental health crisis or a medical aid or

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something just a dead body because maybe they died natural causes.

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But what the call tells you you have can change

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because of what you see and hear what is happening

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right this moment. And I'm sure our guys would agree

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that police bodycams have been a net positive for everyone

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looking at this sort of landscape. Yes, lots of police

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incompetence or misbehavior or criminal activity has been exposed, and

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that was kind of the point originally, but also just

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lots of stuff that's embarrassing and or horrible that actually

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redounds to CoP's credit, like, Wow, this police officer is

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being really patient with this insane animal they're dealing with.

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But not only that. If you watch police bodycams that

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are released, you can see over and over again. How

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fast the situation goes from like oh, how's it going

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to bang bang bang ban bank ah, you know, just

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complete chaos, murder attack, good knife And then a lot

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of times in these police bodycam playbacks they have to

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freeze frame it and do draw a red circle around

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the knife. The guy was definitely trying to plunge into

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the CoP's neck because some normal person watching it be like, wait,

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what what just happened? That person kind of flailed and

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there now they're getting shot like fifteen times. No, no, no,

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like they had a knife. The cop either saw the

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knife or just reacted to flailing crazy person. And then

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they got lucky because the person happened to have a

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knife in their hand. Because things just happen. Things happened

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really quickly.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's nail some let's nail some stuff down here,

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some of the things you write about here, because like

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I think, well, let let's i'll get to what something

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I wanted to bring up on my own. So you

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said here, like so if you are stopped, you said, politely,

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ask whether you're being detained. That sounds like some sovereign

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citizens stuff. Why are you asking that? And you said

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politely asked are you being detained? You know, are whether

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you are detained, and then ask why you are detained?

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Like I said, that sounds like that typical sovereign citizen

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libertarian bullshit. So why would you do that?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if you're stopped while you're driving, then

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you are detained. So it's more a question of hey,

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why did you stop me? And you have to look

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at your local situation. But the cop might be legally

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required to tell you why he stopped you, depending on

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where you live. Because again, if you're so sorry, short version,

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if you're in your car, you are detained for just

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to get a ticket, not necessarily Again, there's a great area.

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They don't necessarily have the right to, like, you know,

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to pat you down, but they can generally get you

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out of your car because car stops are very dangerous.

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So if you're stopped and you're in your car, you

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are detained. Your passengers might not be. Again, look at

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the laws for your area. But the reason you would

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ask this if you're just sort of on your feet

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somewhere chatting, well, the reason you would ask if the

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cops chatting you up again, they might really be chatting

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you up, like they're humans. They you know, they might

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want to talk about the game or whatever. But if

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they're talking to you and they start asking like stuff

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for you're like, hey, why are you asking me this?

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Or are you trying to figure out if I'm doing

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crime right now? If you ask like hey, man, like sorry,

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am I detained? Right now? Am I detained? They have

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to tell you yes or no. If they say no

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and you feel like just leaving, you can just leave.

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But if they say yes, well that means not only

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can you not leave yet, and they can't detain you forever,

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because detained is like I'm stopping you. You can't leave yet,

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but you're not under arrest yet. I can detain you

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long enough to do a little investigating and figure out

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if I'm going to arrest you. And again, a lot

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of this is very gray areas stuff. The same way

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if someone if a cop pulls you over for a citation,

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like hey, you you know your registration and your tail

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light if that's all they have, if they didn't see anything,

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they don't smell alcohol on you, whatever. If they don't

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find something better than your dumb little citation and you're cooperative,

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then they can only legally detain you long enough to

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write that ticket. And if they detain you longer because

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they're trying to fish for something else and they don't

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find anything else, well then you could you know, you

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have a case, you have a fun little case where

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you can get some a nice settlement out of them.

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But if you're on your feet, you ask that question,

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if they say yes, well then then you can't leave.

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And if you're detained, you have to identify yourself. Like

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if you're just chatting and they ask you your name,

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you don't got to tell them. But if you're detained

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and you don't, if you don't provide it dification because

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of legal detention, then now they have obstructing their investigation.

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Now they have something a little more, they can maybe

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arrest you for that. So that's why again the sovereign

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system thing is annoying again. Like that's why I said politely.

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You know, if you just like, yell am I detained

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at a cop, like maybe they're like, okay, never mind,

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excuse me, but they'll be like, oh really, why are

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you so why are you being weird about being detained?

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Or like why are you asking this question so aggressively? Guy?

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You know some of them might be like, it's not

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worth it, but some would be like, oh, now I'm curious,

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And if a CoP's curious about you, not a great

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spot to be in. Just not some of them. Some

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of them are quite patient when they're curious, patient enough

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to like follow you around for a little while and

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see if they see anything.

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Speaker 1: One of the other things that you mentioned is is

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if you do get arrested, you know, basically you have

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to give over your identification, but don't talk, you know,

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don't talk without a lawyer, imperfectly a lawyer who's one

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of our guys. And yeah, it's another libertarian thing. There's

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a really short book, it's like one hundred and twenty

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five pages by a guy named James Dwayne, college professor.

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It's called you have the Right to Remain I think

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It's innocent or something like that. And basically what he

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says in there is, and you know, maybe you can

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speak to this, is that if a cop asks you

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a if they're like they're trying to figure out if

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you were involved in a robbery, and they ask you

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one hundred questions and you answer two of those questions,

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that will seem to incriminate yourself even if there are

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the way you answer the question in the ninety eight

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ones in the ninety eight previous questions exonerate you, they can.

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They only have to submit those two questions. Those other

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ninety eight questions get thrown out and you can't say, well,

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I answered that back here and submit that as evidence.

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So don't answer shit, I mean, don't talk say anything

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until you're you know, until a lawyer is there, because

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if they're asking you questions, they're trying to implicate you,

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and the system is set up so that even if

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you've already exonerated yourself, if you say anything that makes

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it seem like you're guilty, you can end up doing

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you know, doing a couple of years or even more,

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and they are they may already know that you're innocent.

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Speaker 2: The other thing that's relevant here, again, people are newer

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to this landscape. The threshold for arresting someone is considerably

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lower than the threshold for finding someone guilty in the

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court of law. So even if even if you don't

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do anything or say anything, the cops could get you

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because there's just enough from their perspective, you know, like

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a fifty one percent kind of thing, they could arrest you,

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and they can sort of they can calm their conscience

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by being like, look it, it's not up to me.

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Probably won't get filed. This person's going to get out

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of jail tomorrow morning. And like it's annoying, but like,

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particularly in the cases of domestic violence, a lot of

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times it's kind of she said, he said situation. If

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someone said there was violence, sometimes that's all that they

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need to put someone in jail, specifically so that the

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situation doesn't continue that same night, because, as they say

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my piece as well, if if you blow off a

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domestic violence or just a domestic verbal argument call, if

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you're like he's lying, she's lying. This is annoying. I've

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been here before. Probably you're right. But if you blow

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that off and then later that same evening, maybe even

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after you're done with your shift, if that situation continues

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and someone gets very badly hurt or killed, they're going

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to go back to the previous call, like, hey, why

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didn't you investigate this further? We looked at your whole

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body cam. You seem like you're not doing your job properly.

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Who's going to get fired and sued and prosecuted? The

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guy who blew it off. So it's and again, look

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at your local situation, look at your state laws, and

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even in policy, like every department has their own policies

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they're right about in this situation, you will X and Y,

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and not everybody knows all of them. And doing the

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right thing at the right time is generally more powerful

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than any given policy. But people are pretty articulous about

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following those kind of policies, like, Hey, I'm going to

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cover my tail here and yo, I don't see anything,

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but like she said, you hit her, so you're going

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to jail man. Sorry, Oh, do you have any guns

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in the house? Yeah, right ahead, and seize those for

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now because we're resting you for domestic violence. So guns,

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where are they? Just like keep in mind. And something

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else I write in the piece is like, be careful

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who you live with. You know, if you're you have

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any concerns about getting in like dangerous arguments with the

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people you live with, whether it's your your spouse or

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family people or room, whatever it is. If you're worried

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about the people you live with, and particularly if you

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live near enough to your neighbors where they can call

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the cops, because there's some noise. Well, there'll be reports

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written about that if you have like some blow up fight.

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Even if even if no one hits nobody, the cops

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will write a report if there was like a domestic

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verbal argument, like if you admit to it. I mean,

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if you and your lady are awake and you have like,

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oh we fight, we're loud, we're intimated. But the cops

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show up and you're like, oh, nothing happened, nothing happened,

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No nothing that what are you talking about? No, that's

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she says, nothing happened. You something happened. Then they leave.

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They might write down that you said that. They might

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write report saying we went there, neighbors said this, both people,

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this person, this person, their name, their day to birth.

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You know, they'll having the system. But it's like we've

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shut up there and then nobody said anything happened, and

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they might it might be even boring how long they

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try to talk to both of you, like, Hey, it's okay,

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you can tell me like did he did she? If

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you if you and your people are like not, even

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if you have like a big bad fight, we're not

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going to involve the cops at all with this. And

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you like legit stick to that then they have nothing,

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but they'll still probably write down your names. So be

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better to not get in fights with your person you

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can help that. That's right.

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Speaker 1: And the piece, well, I think this is a there's

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another section here that you wrote that is important. It's

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a very short section, but I mean this literally comes

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down to your rights and basically how you're going to

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be viewed by the authorities for the rest of your life.

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That's psychols and mental health. Get into that, especially what

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not to say.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, yeah, I made that one pretty short because

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again I'm uneasy about making pronouncements because again, every state

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has different laws about what the cup have to do

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about this. But if you are placed on a mandatory cycle,

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the things to not say in front of mandatory mandated

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reporters is if you admit that you are homicidal or suicidal,

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or if you're if you're just like if your life

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is such a train wreck that you're like a kind

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of crazy, homeless person level of like crazy. I mean,

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I don't think any of our guys are in danger

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of getting this bad. But there's criteria where a mandated

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reporter calls the cops and if they talk to you

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and you know, you kind of show those symptoms, show

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that you know, if you're if you're homicidal or suicidal,

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they're gonna put you on the whole. Then you're not

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technically arrested. You're detained for further monitoring the words for it.

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But but you will be put in handcuffs. They will

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you know, use force on you if you don't cooperate

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with them, and they will seize your firearms. And again

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whether they have to seize your firearms is state dependent. Again,

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look at your state, like how how hard over is

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your state on if someone gets put on a cycled

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that you seize their firearms. So again, like a great

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way to get your firearms you winked in, like you

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know lickety split is have a really bad fight or

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hit your wife or tell a mandated reporter that your

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suicidal or homicidal like that that's the fastest way all

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00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,319
of you know, years you've spent you know, getting stuff,

477
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,240
you know, just so they're going to try to find

478
00:28:37,279 --> 00:28:40,279
all of them and seize them all And and in

479
00:28:40,359 --> 00:28:46,599
the cases of in in both I think the psycle

480
00:28:46,599 --> 00:28:51,440
one again, this is all state dependent. When or if

481
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,240
you can get that stuff back, you have to look

482
00:28:55,319 --> 00:28:56,920
up what that what the law would be like in

483
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:04,400
your state. But in some cases, the time that your

484
00:29:04,519 --> 00:29:07,720
stuff would be on ice before you could get it

485
00:29:07,799 --> 00:29:12,799
back is less than the time the agencies would wait

486
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,200
before they just destroy it because they don't hold things

487
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,400
that long. So like you could get your shit seized

488
00:29:17,519 --> 00:29:19,799
and they could throw it in an incinerator or like,

489
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,119
I don't know what happens, Maybe people just take them home.

490
00:29:22,119 --> 00:29:24,799
I don't know, but like your shit is gone, your

491
00:29:24,839 --> 00:29:27,799
guns and your AMMO, all of it, all the stuff

492
00:29:27,799 --> 00:29:30,240
they can find anyway, all the stuff in your name. Again,

493
00:29:30,279 --> 00:29:32,440
if you're in a state that does that stuff. So

494
00:29:32,519 --> 00:29:37,279
again I wrote again very briefly, you know, if you're

495
00:29:37,359 --> 00:29:41,240
hurting you, if you have an issue. I'm not flipping

496
00:29:41,319 --> 00:29:44,720
about if someone's having a spiritual or mental health crisis.

497
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,960
Like people, you know, we need to take care of ourselves.

498
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,200
We need to talk to people if we're hurting. But

499
00:29:50,759 --> 00:29:54,200
again I'm not even against using you know, talk therapy

500
00:29:54,279 --> 00:29:57,559
or mental health services. But like, do not tell mandated

501
00:29:57,559 --> 00:30:01,599
reporters that you are suicidal or homicidal, like never, never,

502
00:30:01,759 --> 00:30:05,160
and definitely don't tell a cop your suicidal or homicidal.

503
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,240
Do not tell them that even if you are, because

504
00:30:09,039 --> 00:30:12,319
I mean you can, you can become not suicidal, you

505
00:30:12,359 --> 00:30:15,079
can become not homicidal. But if they take your stuff,

506
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,240
that might be it. It might just be gone forever.

507
00:30:18,359 --> 00:30:21,319
And now you now if you want to have that stuff,

508
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,319
now you're a criminal again for even more than just

509
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,400
carrying it, like even possessing it at all. That's a

510
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,920
problem again. And if you're where is it if it

511
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,519
could seize because you were arrested for domestic violence, well

512
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,640
let's say it gets thrown out. You're you know, doesn't

513
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,640
get filed like okay, Well you could get your stuff

514
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,799
back in like a week or something. It depends on

515
00:30:39,839 --> 00:30:45,599
what the circumstances are. So getting arrested doesn't necessarily mean

516
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,759
your stuff's gone forever. It's still bad, it's still not good.

517
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,759
But a cycle is I would say, worse even than

518
00:30:53,799 --> 00:30:56,720
getting arrested for something in terms of your your stuff

519
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,160
getting taken and you don't get it back.

520
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: I think another thing people need to realize is, even

521
00:31:02,519 --> 00:31:06,359
if the officer is trying to help you, it has

522
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,240
your best interest at heart when it comes to these

523
00:31:09,799 --> 00:31:11,799
when it comes to psychlos and things like that and

524
00:31:11,839 --> 00:31:15,480
mental health, I mean, if they put you into the system,

525
00:31:16,039 --> 00:31:18,680
you're getting put into like Stormy set up there. You're

526
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:23,440
just getting into automation, and you can end up in

527
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:29,720
a facility, shut up with drugs against your will. And

528
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:35,640
the cop may not want that to happen, but if

529
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,119
you tell him that you're having a problem like that,

530
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,720
he has to report it. And then you're being handed

531
00:31:40,759 --> 00:31:46,279
over to people who don't care about you as an individual.

532
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:51,119
They're quote unquote trying to protect the public. And one

533
00:31:51,119 --> 00:31:53,200
of the ways they may be protecting the public from

534
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:58,160
you is by I mean just pumping you full of drugs.

535
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,880
And I know people that this has happened too.

536
00:32:03,039 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't get to I mean, you could decide

537
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,839
to not eat. But like once you're in the system,

538
00:32:08,839 --> 00:32:14,039
once you're incarcerated, I mean, you're you eat what they

539
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:18,319
can give you to eat, and they might make you

540
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,319
take medication. They might forcibly inject you. I mean they

541
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,119
might just get pills and watch you take them, but

542
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,960
they they might inject you with stuff. Forcibly, they might

543
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,440
like hold you down and inject you with things if

544
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,720
they think that's what you need. And again, particularly if

545
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:38,759
if you're extra uncivilized, when you're dealing with this whole system.

546
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:43,319
If you're if you're civilized, that doesn't mean they won't

547
00:32:43,359 --> 00:32:45,519
do this stuff to you. But like if you're uncivilized

548
00:32:45,559 --> 00:32:50,720
in any part of this process, law enforcement have actually

549
00:32:50,799 --> 00:32:53,640
a lot of rules and a lot of scrutiny preventing

550
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,720
them from you know, being old fashioned thugs to you.

551
00:32:57,599 --> 00:33:00,720
But if you're if you're like actively resisting or attacking them,

552
00:33:01,119 --> 00:33:02,880
then they could just get to be thugs. And it's

553
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,400
great that they get permission to do what they kind

554
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,000
of want to do. A lot of them they want

555
00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:10,599
to get in fights and win, and they don't fight fair.

556
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,319
They don't want to fight fair, and that's fine. Again,

557
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,799
like apprehending people, it's not fair in any direction. You know,

558
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,960
someone could just like become the devil in front of

559
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,440
you and pull a gun and you're like, whoa, I

560
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,599
thought we were talking about so oh the whole thing.

561
00:33:24,319 --> 00:33:28,000
So they've learned that fighting fair is not good for them.

562
00:33:28,039 --> 00:33:29,920
They want to go into their family again, Like wh

563
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:35,519
law enforcement types, they're basically, like a lot of them

564
00:33:35,519 --> 00:33:38,559
just normal conservative, un neurotic people who just want to

565
00:33:38,799 --> 00:33:41,160
do their job and not get fired and not get

566
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:46,400
sued and prosecuted and go into their families. And I

567
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,000
mean post twenty twenty, and I'm sure earlier than that.

568
00:33:49,079 --> 00:33:53,640
Like when you're a law enforcement person, there's a lot

569
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,559
of incentives now to not advertise such a thing when

570
00:33:57,599 --> 00:34:02,279
you're off duty, because I mean, like anything, people can

571
00:34:02,319 --> 00:34:07,519
just come at you. You will probably forget almost everyone

572
00:34:07,559 --> 00:34:11,079
you've arrested, but they probably won't forget you. There's lots

573
00:34:11,119 --> 00:34:12,840
of stories, and they go around again, they go around

574
00:34:13,159 --> 00:34:17,599
this culture enforcement culture like oh yeah, this guy's off duty,

575
00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:20,280
he's just like ordering it as fast, too joint. And

576
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,280
some mobster, some gangster he walked away a while ago,

577
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,679
just put a gun in his ear and that's it

578
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,000
for him, like no warning, nothing like a mob hit.

579
00:34:30,519 --> 00:34:38,320
So even in off duty world, vigilance is necessary. And

580
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,679
that's another lesson for our guys, Like people might want

581
00:34:42,679 --> 00:34:45,320
to get a piece of you, and you might not

582
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,639
know who they are until they're committed to it. So

583
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,159
again vigilance.

584
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 1: Part two, you basically talk about how agency is too

585
00:34:54,920 --> 00:35:01,199
mutual aid and you get into mastister us and you

586
00:35:01,199 --> 00:35:05,159
know our guys guys like Jay Ford and Melon and

587
00:35:05,199 --> 00:35:08,400
not me, not you. You know, they were down for a

588
00:35:08,559 --> 00:35:14,159
Hurricane Helene in on the ground watching how things were

589
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,760
carried out when you know, trying to provide mutual aid

590
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,800
for for our people who were who were hurt down there,

591
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,559
who were suffering. So talk a little bit about that,

592
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:29,320
because you you will if this happens in your area,

593
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,360
or you know, if the you know, the end of

594
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,039
the world as we know it happens. I think most

595
00:35:35,079 --> 00:35:37,239
police are going to be worried about their own families

596
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,199
and you know, probably seeking to take care of them.

597
00:35:40,639 --> 00:35:44,440
But we're talking about here like terrorist attack, natural disaster, riots,

598
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,760
even disease outbreak. So talk a little bit about what

599
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,800
you wrote about here as far as what we should

600
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:52,960
know about how you guys operate.

601
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 2: Sure, again, this is sort of as an object lesson

602
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,599
when something sort of I sort of had two sections

603
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,159
or two sort of ways it could go. If we

604
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,039
have some advanced notice or like the air is a

605
00:36:11,079 --> 00:36:14,960
little electric, we're going to be more vigilant. We think

606
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,480
something's going to happen, or something scheduled to happen that

607
00:36:17,519 --> 00:36:21,960
we expect to be trouble. Well, then in the case

608
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:26,679
of law enforcement, we're on alert, people are called even

609
00:36:26,679 --> 00:36:29,280
if they're off duty. Hey make sure your gear is

610
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,360
in order, your riot gear is in order. Make sure

611
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,840
that if you get called and you have to go somewhere,

612
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,840
you can get there quickly and have all your stuff

613
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,519
together and you can get in a skirmish line or

614
00:36:40,559 --> 00:36:43,119
just break into little squads or whatever and do what

615
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,719
needs to happen. And then the riot is that everyone's

616
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,360
kind of favorite version of that. But I mean, if

617
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:53,079
there's a if there's an evacuation for something like a hurricane,

618
00:36:53,199 --> 00:36:57,519
like a flood or a weather event, cops can be

619
00:36:57,559 --> 00:37:01,480
sent into areas that could be affected to you advise everyone, Hey,

620
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,559
this is an evacuation order. Oh you're not going to

621
00:37:04,639 --> 00:37:06,760
do it? Oh as myself? Okay, Cool, I'm runeing that down.

622
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,719
How many people at your house? Cool? Okay, so when

623
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,000
this blows through here, we'll know how many bodies to stack,

624
00:37:11,119 --> 00:37:14,159
you know, to count for this house. Cool, Bye, and

625
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,639
et cetera. Or folks want our help. Cool, but sorry.

626
00:37:17,639 --> 00:37:20,760
So if there's some advanced notice, then we can get

627
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,320
geared up and stage somewhere maybe at a time, or

628
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,880
get geared up in stage right around right before the

629
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,320
events supposed to take place. And actually, if they if

630
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,039
a city expects a disturbance, expects our riot or expects

631
00:37:32,039 --> 00:37:35,599
some protest that is very rowdy. The city can be like, hey,

632
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,119
we expect this to go a certain way. We would

633
00:37:39,159 --> 00:37:42,880
like a police presence, so, uh, could you please you know,

634
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,360
the mayor's officer probably say, hey, could you please, you know,

635
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,400
get X number of people, and well, this is how

636
00:37:48,679 --> 00:37:51,519
we'll they'll they'll have a plan that they agree with

637
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,440
degree upon with the the law enforcement executive. This is

638
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,719
how we'll do this event. I mean our event that

639
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,239
could go good. You know, here we have a concert.

640
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,920
Could you guys just security for the concert. Yeah, here's

641
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,960
how we'll do it, like just like a security company,

642
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,679
but just you know, a more muscular security company. And

643
00:38:07,679 --> 00:38:10,239
then when the event happens, everyone has it could still

644
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,840
go crazy, but everyone is a little more. They're kind

645
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,159
of ahead of the thing. They know what to expect,

646
00:38:16,159 --> 00:38:18,920
and if it becomes as bad as they are worried about,

647
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,880
they have a plan. They know sort of what to do.

648
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,599
They're ahead of what could be happening. Maybe, but if

649
00:38:25,639 --> 00:38:28,679
the other version of the event is something happens without warning,

650
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,719
or something happens and maybe local executives were in denial

651
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,800
and did not prepare, whether that's the mayor or it's

652
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,920
the sheriff or the police chief, like, oh, this thing's

653
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,039
gonna happenh it'd be too expensive to stage ahead of time,

654
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,639
or ah, like we don't want to. Maybe police presidence

655
00:38:46,639 --> 00:38:49,880
would just make it worse, which it might. So if

656
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:54,440
something happens in that case and I think the well

657
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,440
I won't refer to specifics again, might bloom my cover.

658
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,599
But if something happens, it's sort of with war, either

659
00:39:00,599 --> 00:39:03,000
without warning or because no one was prepared on purpose

660
00:39:03,119 --> 00:39:05,840
or no one likes stage at a time, it kind

661
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,039
of goes off like a police call. That's that's spinning

662
00:39:09,079 --> 00:39:11,159
out of control, like a normal one. Like you know,

663
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,239
unit gets the we have this thing happening here. Oh

664
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,599
what is it where? Ohthough, okay, first you know it

665
00:39:15,599 --> 00:39:18,840
gets there. Oh man, we need everybody. This is crazy.

666
00:39:19,079 --> 00:39:20,679
There's you know, in the case of a riot. Oh

667
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,000
there's a riot. It's like we got like fifty people

668
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:27,239
smashing stuff. More people are coming and smashing stuff. Send

669
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,639
to every unit there is, you know, So then between

670
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,000
zero and ten minutes, I don't know, there's a handful

671
00:39:33,039 --> 00:39:35,880
of people to define it. It depends on your area. It

672
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,400
depends ho many cops are in your area, depends how

673
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,400
population your area, It depends on traffic. Oh, you know,

674
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,800
all this stuff is variable, you know, and like within

675
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,519
ten minutes, probably a helicopter you could get there. If

676
00:39:43,519 --> 00:39:45,639
you have a helicopter that's near your area, you know,

677
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,920
going ahead, Ha's gone. Oh. More and more agencies have

678
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:53,840
drones now, which are great. Drones can and our guys

679
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,679
could have drones. Drones let they basically let you look

680
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,320
down as long as it is not like smoke or

681
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,360
like weird weather things in your way. You can look

682
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,920
down at an event like you're in a game like

683
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,360
here's them, here's us. We can move our people like

684
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,400
it's a little strategy game, like it's command and conquer.

685
00:40:11,679 --> 00:40:14,760
But so but like if the event is kind of

686
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,639
ahead of the response, it's everyone just kind of trickling

687
00:40:17,679 --> 00:40:22,480
over there, and the first person is in charge until

688
00:40:22,559 --> 00:40:24,480
someone will higher rank tags them out, and then so

689
00:40:24,559 --> 00:40:26,480
on and so forth. But if something is sort of

690
00:40:26,519 --> 00:40:30,119
spinning out of control, the people getting there have to

691
00:40:30,199 --> 00:40:32,960
figure out sort of what's happening and figure out what

692
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,760
they're going to do and try to like organize the

693
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:40,199
resources they have all at once. That's really hard. So

694
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:46,199
mutual aid between agencies in a region. We train with

695
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,920
other agencies that are sort of adjacent to our areas,

696
00:40:49,679 --> 00:40:53,360
and we train at least once quarterly, and it's usually

697
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,440
again like stacking up for a skirmish line for riot

698
00:40:56,519 --> 00:41:00,440
kind of things, and not just you know, not just

699
00:41:00,519 --> 00:41:03,480
our guys and our ride gear. But do we have

700
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,920
like armored vehicles, Do we have motorcycles that can move information?

701
00:41:10,199 --> 00:41:13,440
Can we move police vehicles for like a rescue? We do?

702
00:41:13,199 --> 00:41:16,639
We train for those kinds of things at least it

703
00:41:16,679 --> 00:41:18,360
would be better probably to do it once a month.

704
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,400
But we train with our with ourselves and with our

705
00:41:22,559 --> 00:41:28,199
like middle leadership, like sergeant lieutenants that whatever. And because

706
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,519
our leadership are kind of middle officer types, they are

707
00:41:31,599 --> 00:41:34,800
responsible for us, you know, like the military, they're responsible

708
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,119
for a little unit of people, and you know, the

709
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:39,880
orders go down and we're going to you know, make

710
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:44,280
lines across this intersection, this intersection. Quick communication both like

711
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,679
out loud yelling, you know, sounding off and like yelling

712
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,400
and your people to do stuff amidst probably you know,

713
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,760
in a right like a lot of noise, but also

714
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,480
electronic communications how fast and efficient and clear is your

715
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,679
electronic communications describing what's going on, so that the people

716
00:41:58,679 --> 00:42:04,559
who haven't gotten there yet have they have the least

717
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,320
catching up to do necessary once they get there, because

718
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,360
if someone's like doesn't know what's going on, they can't

719
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:15,079
do anything. You know, the the DA loop, the observe,

720
00:42:15,159 --> 00:42:19,440
orient decide, act, that kind of loop of like a

721
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:23,519
person kind of seeing something and then reacting to it properly,

722
00:42:25,199 --> 00:42:27,440
speeding that up as best as possible and also interrupting

723
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:32,280
your enemies ooda loop. That's you know, basic tactics. But

724
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,760
the kind of bottom line with mutual aid is if

725
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,920
you train and you know what to do, and particularly

726
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,199
if you see an event coming, if you stage ahead

727
00:42:42,199 --> 00:42:44,400
of time and talk about what your plan might be,

728
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,880
then even if things go differently, and they almost certainly will,

729
00:42:48,639 --> 00:42:51,559
that structure will help you. And also if your local

730
00:42:52,159 --> 00:42:55,679
executives again you or your fire chief, your your police chief,

731
00:42:55,719 --> 00:43:00,280
your your mayor, if they are at odds, that will

732
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:04,159
be very dangerous and delay action when something bad happens.

733
00:43:04,519 --> 00:43:07,119
But if they have a good communication, if they have

734
00:43:07,159 --> 00:43:10,079
a good relationship and they and they can if they

735
00:43:10,079 --> 00:43:12,599
can agree, they can get on the same page quickly,

736
00:43:13,159 --> 00:43:15,719
then that is a service to the guys actually doing

737
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,239
stuff like I'm on the skirmmers line. Now what if

738
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,960
they're if they don't know now what then then it's

739
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,719
really dangerous. So again, if you're if your local situation,

740
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,480
and again, but are bring it just to our guys

741
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,880
your chapters, Like is your leadership structure clear? Do you

742
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,440
know who's in charge of what? Do you know what

743
00:43:33,559 --> 00:43:36,360
everyone has if they're going to show up on game day?

744
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,599
And can you plan and the next you on that plan?

745
00:43:39,679 --> 00:43:42,400
And can you train and train to help each other

746
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,119
and help kind of adjacent groups or adjacent groups within

747
00:43:46,119 --> 00:43:48,400
your in your town. Can you help law enforcement? I

748
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,039
mean again, there's opportunities for if you have a good

749
00:43:51,079 --> 00:43:54,840
relationship with law enforcement in your area and they can

750
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,559
count on you to help, well, then they're going to

751
00:43:56,599 --> 00:43:59,400
be more positive disposed towards your thing, towards your people.

752
00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:02,559
You're there to help, You're not there to mess with them.

753
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,360
Then everyone can just do their thing and just act.

754
00:44:06,559 --> 00:44:08,800
And then once you're done acting, everyone be like, Wow,

755
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:13,000
that went really good. Cool, shake hands, see you next time.

756
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:19,599
That's really neat. I'd like to talk about part three now, actually,

757
00:44:20,559 --> 00:44:21,239
but we have time.

758
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: I was going to say, jump into talking about fusion centers,

759
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:29,719
because this is probably the one most people, even those

760
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,719
of us who have done deep dives into law enforcement,

761
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,440
have no real knowledge of.

762
00:44:36,639 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again part of I think the biggest reason

763
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:43,760
I wrote this is because of Stormy talking about these things. Yeah,

764
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,920
So the fusion center that sort of governed your region

765
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:54,239
has law enforcement people almost certainly from either your agency

766
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,360
it's local to you, or maybe like a bigger one

767
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,320
who's not so close to you. But like, there are

768
00:44:58,519 --> 00:45:03,280
local law enforcement people who are at desks at this

769
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:07,880
fusion center and they are talking with working with not

770
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:13,360
only other law enforcement types from your region, but you know,

771
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:18,000
name your FEDS, probably DHS, almost certainly FBI and whatever else.

772
00:45:18,079 --> 00:45:22,719
But the fusion centers are sort of branded as state funded,

773
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,199
and I guess they're technically state funded, but they are

774
00:45:26,599 --> 00:45:33,039
an appendage of DHS. And the pretense for these things

775
00:45:33,679 --> 00:45:38,679
was the regime narrative about how nine to eleven was

776
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:44,159
allowed to happen. There was insufficient sharing of intel between agencies. Well,

777
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,880
just carry that to its conclusion. You don't just want

778
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,440
intel sharing between agencies at the federal level. You want

779
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,440
intel sharing between the federal agencies and your local agencies,

780
00:45:55,960 --> 00:46:00,800
and not just intel sharing, but like cooperation, and I

781
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:06,119
mean local law enforcement is happy to receive money from

782
00:46:06,159 --> 00:46:09,519
the FEDS. And I'm almost positive that local law enforcement

783
00:46:09,599 --> 00:46:13,559
receives money from the FEDS in exchange for doing these

784
00:46:13,639 --> 00:46:17,199
DHS kind of terrorism and cyber trainings, basically training local

785
00:46:17,199 --> 00:46:21,639
cops to report suspicious activity, which is super vague. They

786
00:46:21,639 --> 00:46:25,679
can do a suspicious activity report if they think someone

787
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,000
might be an in cell type, or if they think

788
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:33,039
you're a white supremacist, if they see a patch you're wearing,

789
00:46:33,159 --> 00:46:35,280
or if they see a poster in your house when

790
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,039
they just say hello for something else, or if you're

791
00:46:38,039 --> 00:46:41,840
a little too flamboyant about you know, your extreme radicalism,

792
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,559
they might be like, I have no crime here, but

793
00:46:45,599 --> 00:46:48,239
I'm going to write a star and get it to

794
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:52,559
the desk of whatever local law enforcement or FED is

795
00:46:52,639 --> 00:46:55,039
at my local fusion center. That's kind of where it starts,

796
00:46:55,039 --> 00:46:57,280
and I'm sure if it gets really serious again, it

797
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,719
goes up to the federal level, goes their FED off

798
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,079
where FED and there are Homeland Security offices as well.

799
00:47:03,119 --> 00:47:08,320
They're around, there's FBI offices around, but these fusion centers

800
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,960
is that membrane. It's between local law enforcement and federal

801
00:47:12,039 --> 00:47:17,639
law enforcement, and the they conduct these trainings and I'm

802
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,519
growing the piece the basic kind of terrorism and cointer

803
00:47:21,599 --> 00:47:26,119
terrorism training and cyber security training. It's mostly directing local

804
00:47:26,199 --> 00:47:30,039
law enforcement types too, if they have something like that,

805
00:47:30,199 --> 00:47:32,639
to write a good report about it and pass it

806
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,880
up the chain, not just through their agency, but to

807
00:47:36,159 --> 00:47:39,440
loop in the fusion center person, whether it's an analyst

808
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,559
who gets it to whether it's you know, a law

809
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:47,760
law enforcement officer or deputy at the desk. They can

810
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,239
bring those federal resources. And in the case of cyber security,

811
00:47:51,599 --> 00:47:53,679
you know, someone could have someone could get like hacked

812
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,480
or get scammed and some international piece of shit could

813
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:01,880
you know, have tons of money like insane, a gobs

814
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,280
of you know, of money. They just are are crypto,

815
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:08,559
they've stolen and you need federal resources possibly you know,

816
00:48:08,599 --> 00:48:13,159
international federal you know, innerpol resources to maybe stop that

817
00:48:13,159 --> 00:48:16,320
that you know, that that scam or that cybercrime. So

818
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,840
there's there's good reasons why. There's like you know, good

819
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,599
for regular people reasons why this works, like oh, this

820
00:48:21,639 --> 00:48:23,840
person got scanned when yesterday, oh man, we might be

821
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,880
able to stop this cool perfectly reasonable, but same thing,

822
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,480
but that same system, that same kind of like muscle

823
00:48:31,519 --> 00:48:34,119
memory of oh, this is a thing where I pass

824
00:48:34,199 --> 00:48:35,920
it up the chain in the same way i'd pass

825
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,159
a homicide up the chain. Like I'm not a homicide detective,

826
00:48:39,679 --> 00:48:42,280
So if I have a dead body and it seems

827
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,000
like maybe a homicide, well then my job is the

828
00:48:45,119 --> 00:48:47,199
kind of regular guy on the street is okay, I

829
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:48,679
need to just like make sure this scene doesn't get

830
00:48:48,679 --> 00:48:51,199
disturbed and sit on it and record who comes and goes,

831
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,679
but pass it up the chain to the homicide detective. Well,

832
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,199
if you're maybe an extremists and the cop things you are,

833
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,800
then they might or a civilian who notices some libtard

834
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,960
neighbor or whoever, they might just write usar about you,

835
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,280
and it gets to the desk and a lot of

836
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,679
them come in because anyone again, like anything, people can

837
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,679
just write these things from anywhere, by the way, So

838
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,599
the person on the desk is sifting through this stuff

839
00:49:16,679 --> 00:49:19,440
and they might be like, another freaking crazy person, this

840
00:49:19,559 --> 00:49:21,639
is nothing, you know, close it, close it, close it,

841
00:49:21,679 --> 00:49:26,559
close it. But they might go, huhh okay, I've heard

842
00:49:26,559 --> 00:49:30,639
about this person before. Okay, let's take a look and

843
00:49:30,679 --> 00:49:34,280
the trainings again, Breck at this this it's hard to

844
00:49:34,639 --> 00:49:37,119
avoid the current moment with you know, the assassinations took

845
00:49:37,119 --> 00:49:43,920
place the as far as I know now at this moment,

846
00:49:44,639 --> 00:49:49,840
in late twenty twenty five, the trainings for terrorism kind

847
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:54,400
of terrorism is still the sort of regime libtarded, anti

848
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:58,639
fascist line of oh, we're very very concerned about white

849
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:02,800
supremacist violence, and oh Antifa, Oh I've heard of them,

850
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:07,679
but oh uh, that's uh. Individuals are committing crimes and

851
00:50:07,679 --> 00:50:10,679
they can arrested for righteous behavior. But like, there's no

852
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,480
headquarters of Antifa. There's no like club you can you know,

853
00:50:13,519 --> 00:50:16,119
have your club card of so like that. I don't know,

854
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,159
I don't know. But Antiva that's weird. You know, they

855
00:50:18,159 --> 00:50:22,559
basically pretend like Antifa isn't real, And that's quite annoying

856
00:50:22,639 --> 00:50:26,079
for again, not even awake people like me, but just

857
00:50:26,119 --> 00:50:28,320
like regular LA enforcement types who are like not libtards,

858
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,360
there's like why what, like you're why are you pretending

859
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,000
this isn't real? We just saw them burn this place

860
00:50:33,079 --> 00:50:36,440
down five years ago, like what? And it's again, these

861
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,920
a lot of these like FBI analyst types are living

862
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,840
in living in a world made of paper and paper

863
00:50:43,199 --> 00:50:47,280
delivered to them by you know, people we know the enemy.

864
00:50:48,639 --> 00:50:53,480
So it's possible that the recent events and this current

865
00:50:53,519 --> 00:50:56,400
administration at least elements within it, it's possible they will

866
00:50:57,119 --> 00:51:02,360
start training local law enforcement to antivot types or these

867
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:07,360
trenisary types as seriously more seriously than this like pretend

868
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:12,840
white supremacist Google they've invented that's not real. But I

869
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,239
wouldn't be too optimistic about them doing it because even

870
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,880
if they change the PowerPoint deck until they swap out

871
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:25,519
the people, the people who are annoyed by your Fourth

872
00:51:25,559 --> 00:51:29,320
Amendment rights, who like they'll do anything they can to

873
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:34,840
try to like place your activity in an international terrorist

874
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,840
frame so they can then use international terrorist machinery at

875
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,920
that that aer a level to spy on you. Until

876
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,800
those people get swapped out with people who are more

877
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,079
our kind of people. I just don't foresee the training changing.

878
00:51:49,119 --> 00:51:54,400
So again, the Fusion centers, to the best of their ability,

879
00:51:54,559 --> 00:51:59,400
are turning local law enforcement people into tiny little microphones,

880
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:06,119
tiny little little magnifying glasses, and tiny little guns that

881
00:52:06,199 --> 00:52:08,239
do the bidding of the Feds if they can manage it.

882
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:12,920
And again, every individual law enforcer is their own person.

883
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,719
They have to you know, have their own sort of

884
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,679
moral decisions about what they enforce and don't enforce and

885
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:23,320
notice and not notice. And every leadership structure is different.

886
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,360
You know, Some some sheriffs, some chiefs are like based

887
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:31,159
and so glad that they're based. Some are politicians literally politicians.

888
00:52:31,199 --> 00:52:33,199
They want to get re elected. If they're a sheriff,

889
00:52:34,119 --> 00:52:36,400
who's who's the voting constituency? Who do they have to

890
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,519
appeal to? You know? And and again a sheriff has

891
00:52:39,559 --> 00:52:42,159
to get re elected, that's its own sort of minefield.

892
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,280
A police chief gets appointed or fired by their executive

893
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,119
so they have to please one person who might be

894
00:52:47,119 --> 00:52:49,159
a total lived hard. So just you have to know

895
00:52:49,159 --> 00:52:53,480
what the incentives are and how much your local law

896
00:52:53,519 --> 00:52:58,079
enforcers are cooperating with this system that definitely exists. It

897
00:52:58,159 --> 00:53:02,599
definitely is like they could be submitting stars if they

898
00:53:02,639 --> 00:53:04,559
see stuff, if they feel like being mister gung ho

899
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,960
anti fascist, they could be doing that. So that's I mean,

900
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,320
the incentive of that is again, if you know your

901
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:16,480
local cops, they might turn on you like that. They

902
00:53:16,519 --> 00:53:20,119
might not, but just know that, like there's someone at

903
00:53:20,119 --> 00:53:22,639
your local level or maybe a town or two over,

904
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,519
maybe who works at that desk or has worked at

905
00:53:25,559 --> 00:53:27,920
that desk and has a nice relationship and likes the

906
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:32,559
pat on the head, likes helping the Feds, and like,

907
00:53:32,559 --> 00:53:35,000
like I said, with the cyber thing, there are upsides

908
00:53:35,039 --> 00:53:39,440
to this. Again, the DHS ice has been stalking the

909
00:53:39,559 --> 00:53:44,199
land like avenging angels, and some local police chiefs where

910
00:53:44,199 --> 00:53:48,239
I am are exasperated because these guys are popping up

911
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,800
and just grabbing people and driving away and not telling anyone.

912
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,760
And if one of our people pull someone over and

913
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,039
oh there's a little uh, maybe there's a little uh

914
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,800
illegal reentry thing here. Oh it's not a criminal warrant,

915
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,199
but like, what's going on? Called call the number. Hey DHS,

916
00:54:05,639 --> 00:54:08,400
I call this number. What's happening with this guy? And like, oh, hey,

917
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,360
just just to stay puit Just wait, what do you mean?

918
00:54:10,599 --> 00:54:13,719
I will send someone okay to what oh you to

919
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,840
like arrest them and deport them. Oh great, cool, I'd

920
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:19,159
be great. And sometimes not all the time, but sometimes

921
00:54:19,159 --> 00:54:23,119
when they do that, they scrub the whole event from

922
00:54:23,199 --> 00:54:27,039
the records, like no, no, this stop never happened. Your

923
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:32,960
bodycm footage is deleted like by and like again that's

924
00:54:33,079 --> 00:54:35,559
cool when it's someone I would like to be not

925
00:54:35,679 --> 00:54:39,039
in my country. But they can just do that, I

926
00:54:39,079 --> 00:54:43,960
can just reach down and make events go away. But

927
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,320
that's also again a perverse white pill in a way.

928
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,719
Like even your local law enforcers, if they have a

929
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:55,480
mind too, they can make stuff go away. And if

930
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:59,599
they're on your team, well then good. That's kind of

931
00:54:59,599 --> 00:55:01,000
the point of of the piece.

932
00:55:03,079 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, the people may hear, oh, you know, the my

933
00:55:08,599 --> 00:55:12,760
local law enforcement has direct access to the FEDS, and

934
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,239
you know, Donald Trump's president, now, so that means that yeah,

935
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:21,360
everything now, No, there's people working in the federal government

936
00:55:21,519 --> 00:55:26,280
who are regime, you know, the one hundred year old

937
00:55:26,519 --> 00:55:31,280
one hundred plus year old regime aligned. They just haven't

938
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,880
been removed yet and probably will not be. So you

939
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,119
can't just assume, oh, these guys are you know, they're

940
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,719
they're getting information about my enemies. No, you might be

941
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,920
the enemy. It reminds me of Trevor Aronson's book The

942
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:51,719
Terror Factory, where he basically detailed how the FBI created

943
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,039
all of these terror attacks in the United States just

944
00:55:55,119 --> 00:55:58,039
so that they could solve them. They had radicalized some

945
00:55:58,119 --> 00:56:02,119
retard arm seam had a where he go to buy

946
00:56:02,199 --> 00:56:05,960
bomb bomb parts and stuff like that and then arrest

947
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them and you know, and then at the end and

948
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you're like, wow, this is amazing information about the FBI.

949
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And then you get to the end of it and

950
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you're like, Okay, who did who told Trevor Aronson to

951
00:56:17,639 --> 00:56:22,159
write this book, because in the last chapter he complains that, yeah,

952
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:27,119
they're they're targeting these poor brown people who came here

953
00:56:27,119 --> 00:56:29,840
from other countries, But what they really should be worrying

954
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:33,239
about is the rising white supremacy and how violent they're

955
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going to be.

956
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Speaker 2: Oh, it's just regime brain. That's just regime brain. You know,

957
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they are, they're willing into existence the uh their nightmares

958
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in a way.

959
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Speaker 1: I mean it's literally like, yeah, the fire department, fire

960
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,800
department going around and setting fires so that they have

961
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something to do, and then getting someone to write an

962
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,840
an article or write a book about how the fire

963
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:04,920
department was doing this. But you really have to worry

964
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about white supremacists because they're the ones who are the arsonists.

965
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,519
Speaker 2: That's incumbent upon again in US US and our thing again,

966
00:57:12,559 --> 00:57:20,840
it's incumbent. Just it's a it's a reminder, a small sidebar. Yeah,

967
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,440
there's definitely analysts like watching us on social media and

968
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,719
et cetera, and a lot of them think we're funny.

969
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,639
So just keep on guys. You might be radicalizing your

970
00:57:30,719 --> 00:57:34,280
FBI guy like like the meme. So there's that. But

971
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I mean it's incumbent on us. Yeah, we want to

972
00:57:37,119 --> 00:57:40,719
have fun and this thing is exciting, but it's dangerous.

973
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And also, like this event that just happened is an

974
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opportunity for Again, we're not We're not Jovah's witnesses, as

975
00:57:50,239 --> 00:57:54,440
Thomas says, but there are people who might be like

976
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elites and waiting who are open to the open for business,

977
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Like who do who do I? I'm I'm the team

978
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:04,000
I was on is getting it's butt whipped? What team

979
00:58:04,239 --> 00:58:05,519
do I need to be on to not get me

980
00:58:05,559 --> 00:58:09,400
butt whipped? And if we're conducting ourselves, you know, in

981
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a civilized, heterosexual Caucasian manner, then maybe maybe those people

982
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will want to be in our thing and help us

983
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or at least not hurt us.

984
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Speaker 1: All right, makes sense? Man? I know you got to

985
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you got a heart out, and I got a heart out,

986
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So I just wanted to take the time to thank

987
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you for writing that. I mean, it's pretty Uh, very informative,

988
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a lot a lot more information in there than than

989
00:58:35,239 --> 00:58:38,239
I was expecting. And you know, for those who haven't

990
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:41,519
done deep dives on exactly how the police work, they'll

991
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:45,400
it'll be a good primer for them, uh, with good uh,

992
00:58:45,719 --> 00:58:47,920
with good instructions on how to deal with that if

993
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,559
you have to. And then also these fusion centers to

994
00:58:51,599 --> 00:58:56,000
just understand that, yeah, we're not out of the woods.

995
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,000
If you're somebody who you know, is you know, one

996
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,360
of our guys, you're out of the woods and your

997
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,760
local you know, there are local police who may be

998
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:09,760
getting radicalized to worry about people like you and you know,

999
00:59:10,079 --> 00:59:15,199
hopefully not but potentially target you. So yeah, I appreciate it, man.

1000
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so glad to be on here. Very honored and

1001
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,360
great too to talk with you. P. It's wonderful. It's

1002
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,159
it's all. This whole thing is scary about it now

1003
00:59:23,239 --> 00:59:26,880
you take Yeah, it's scary, but it's uh, it's it's important.

1004
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,320
You know, this whole thing is important. It's and it's

1005
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,519
practical matters. So glad to help.

1006
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Speaker 1: Well, you're you're very intelligent man, and you know what

1007
00:59:35,039 --> 00:59:37,920
you're talking about. So I mean, it's all you have

1008
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:41,159
to do is basically, tell your story and tell and

1009
00:59:41,199 --> 00:59:45,000
talk about what you know and yeah, usually things go smooth,

1010
00:59:45,559 --> 00:59:48,119
all right, take care, thank you, Thanks Pete,