1 00:00:08,359 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of the Chicks on the Right podcast. 2 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,080 Very pleased to have a complete rock star with us 3 00:00:14,119 --> 00:00:18,879 today from the Conservator. It is CEO and founder of Conservator, 4 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,480 Jamie Franklin, who is a twenty twenty college grad from 5 00:00:22,559 --> 00:00:23,359 UC Berkeley. 6 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 2: Was not expecting that exact. 7 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,519 Speaker 1: Very active in political circles. You our audience might know 8 00:00:29,559 --> 00:00:33,920 you best from various TV appearances, from the fantastic esthetic 9 00:00:34,039 --> 00:00:36,759 on your Instagram page, and the fact that you are 10 00:00:36,799 --> 00:00:41,159 on a mission to show young women that conservative is 11 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,320 the way to be. You remind us of us when 12 00:00:44,359 --> 00:00:47,479 we first started sixteen years ago now trying to give 13 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:52,119 conservatism a makeover. And so tell us how you got started. 14 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:53,520 How did this get born? 15 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,359 Speaker 3: Yeah? So I grew up in northern California, like right 16 00:00:56,359 --> 00:00:59,000 outside of San Francisco, And honestly, it just goes to 17 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,079 show you how much the culture changed. Like my upbring. 18 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,079 Granted I went to Catholic school and I grew up 19 00:01:03,079 --> 00:01:05,280 in like a more conservative household and stuff, but kind 20 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,439 of felt like, just like that insane culture war thing 21 00:01:07,519 --> 00:01:10,280 wasn't really a part of my childhood at all. And 22 00:01:10,519 --> 00:01:13,040 I went to Berkeley from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty 23 00:01:13,079 --> 00:01:15,959 so that was Trump's first term in office obviously, So 24 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,680 that's when I really saw this like take into effect, 25 00:01:18,799 --> 00:01:22,719 just this rampant left wing attack on like American ideals 26 00:01:22,719 --> 00:01:25,560 in our culture. And I always wanted to go into fashion, 27 00:01:25,599 --> 00:01:26,959 That's what I wanted to do. I spent like the 28 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,760 summer before I went to college at Coney nas College 29 00:01:29,799 --> 00:01:31,760 of Fashion and Design. That was my goal in life. 30 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:33,239 And I just I was like that girl I grew 31 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,319 up with magazines next to her bed, like I just 32 00:01:35,439 --> 00:01:37,680 I was on like every fashion blog and stuff, and 33 00:01:37,719 --> 00:01:40,439 I just couldn't stand how left wing everything became. And 34 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,760 I just realized I don't have a place in this movement, 35 00:01:42,879 --> 00:01:46,719 like within women's media. And so when I was, you know, 36 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,040 at Berkeley, obviously I had a lot of inspiration there, 37 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,040 which is how insane the left was the entire my 38 00:01:52,079 --> 00:01:54,920 life was attending and just my education, like I was 39 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:56,799 an American history major, and it was just a completely 40 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:58,920 different history than I grew up in that I knew. 41 00:01:59,079 --> 00:02:00,840 And so it was just a lot of inspiration that 42 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,319 came to place, and I finally was like, I'm going 43 00:02:02,359 --> 00:02:04,760 to create my own thing for women who you know, 44 00:02:04,799 --> 00:02:06,719 you don't even have to be like a hardcore maga 45 00:02:06,719 --> 00:02:09,599 conservative like myself, but for women that just like don't 46 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:14,039 agree with like rampid feminism, the toxic you know, ideology 47 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,919 against men not wanting to have children, you know, hating America, 48 00:02:18,039 --> 00:02:20,120 hating white people, just all the stuff we talk about 49 00:02:20,159 --> 00:02:22,400 all the time. Just a place where they can go 50 00:02:22,479 --> 00:02:25,599 and get really sound advice. And the thing that stood 51 00:02:25,599 --> 00:02:27,439 out to me most at Cow was just how lost 52 00:02:27,479 --> 00:02:30,240 women were with especially the dating culture, which is I 53 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,639 grew up very Catholic, and I grew up believing that 54 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,560 like sex is sacred and that that is for someone 55 00:02:34,599 --> 00:02:36,879 you love, someone who you're married to. And I just 56 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,159 saw so many women lost in this toxic feminism and 57 00:02:40,199 --> 00:02:41,800 they just didn't have I feel like a lot of 58 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,400 self esteem. So I wanted to give more empowering, you know, 59 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,840 message to young women as well, because right now we 60 00:02:46,879 --> 00:02:48,719 have call her Daddy, which is so big, and I 61 00:02:48,759 --> 00:02:51,680 just a message towards woman. So I wanted to be 62 00:02:51,759 --> 00:02:56,840 the alternative to that. Anyway, today, I'm a mom, I'm married, 63 00:02:56,879 --> 00:02:58,479 and I just want to talk about like how important 64 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,919 the family is and I want my daughter to have 65 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,240 a better country and a better culture to grow up in. 66 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 4: That is so fantastic and it's resonating I think so much, 67 00:03:06,159 --> 00:03:08,439 even more now. I think we're seeing sort of a 68 00:03:08,479 --> 00:03:11,000 resurgence of all of that in the last couple of years, 69 00:03:11,039 --> 00:03:12,719 and especially in the last couple of weeks. 70 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,759 Speaker 2: But curious because like. 71 00:03:14,719 --> 00:03:17,719 Speaker 4: Back when I was in my twenties, it's hard to 72 00:03:17,759 --> 00:03:19,120 remember those times. 73 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 3: Because of years. Bok. 74 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh my gosh, you're so sweet. 75 00:03:21,719 --> 00:03:22,479 Speaker 2: But like when I was. 76 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 4: In my twenties, I remember I lived for September Vogue. 77 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:26,759 Speaker 3: Like exactly. 78 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,479 Speaker 2: I loved it. I loved it so much. 79 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 4: I remember getting the giant, huge, big issue September Vogue, 80 00:03:32,599 --> 00:03:34,240 and I would just eat it up and I thought 81 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,280 it was so great, and like, I loved all the fashion. 82 00:03:36,319 --> 00:03:38,719 And then when I got into my thirties, it was 83 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:40,360 it was kind of like what you say, It was 84 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,360 a lot of the it was just trash, you know. 85 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:43,960 I started, and I think part of it was me, 86 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,240 but then part of it was them, you know. And 87 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,719 I'm just and Vogue is just one of many examples, right, 88 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:53,319 But I did love the physical, like the physical book, 89 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:58,879 like the physical magazine. And you guys, you're primarily you're digital, correct, 90 00:03:59,599 --> 00:04:03,159 do you plan on or would you ever dream of 91 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:07,039 doing like a print version of The Conservator and then 92 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,639 having it like in grocery stores across the country because. 93 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: I used to love that. I used to have. 94 00:04:11,759 --> 00:04:14,599 Speaker 4: Subscriptions, I had the print. I mean, maybe it's because 95 00:04:14,599 --> 00:04:16,600 I'm old school, I am old I get it, but 96 00:04:16,639 --> 00:04:19,439 there is something there is something to be said for 97 00:04:19,639 --> 00:04:22,839 that print, having it in your hands, having that old school. 98 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,040 I mean, I know everybody's so digital now, but god, 99 00:04:25,079 --> 00:04:25,759 I love print. 100 00:04:25,959 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 2: I love print. 101 00:04:26,639 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 3: I completely agree that is something I definitely want to do. 102 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,319 You know, we've been able to accomplish a lot so far, 103 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,000 but we're a small I always have a small business, 104 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,399 and so people want us to do more and more, 105 00:04:35,399 --> 00:04:38,079 and that is in our plans, Like we're you know, 106 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:39,959 I started this when I was twenty years old, so 107 00:04:40,199 --> 00:04:42,439 my god, it's just been like growing and growing, and 108 00:04:42,439 --> 00:04:44,240 I've been trying to figure out the business side as well. 109 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,680 But I think that's definitely I think people actually want 110 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,439 like a return to nostalgia. Like you know, a lot 111 00:04:49,439 --> 00:04:52,120 of people in my generation and gen Z they really 112 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,439 love like eighties stuff because I think people think of 113 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,759 it as better in America. So I completely agree with 114 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,600 you I think that's something that we were thinking about 115 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,519 doing at least like a coffee table book. Yeah, we 116 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,240 have just we have a great photographer. We've had worked 117 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,519 in multiple photographers and just gotten so many great images 118 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,920 over the time of great conservative women. So anyway, that's 119 00:05:09,959 --> 00:05:10,399 in the plan. 120 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: That's fantastic. 121 00:05:11,759 --> 00:05:12,199 Speaker 4: I love it. 122 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,879 Speaker 1: So when you decided that you wanted to launch this, 123 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,800 I mean you're very well connected, Like what was your 124 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:20,680 stepping stone? 125 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,639 Speaker 2: How did you meet the right people? How did you. 126 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: Actually because there's lots and lots of people who are like, 127 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:27,480 I'm going to start a website or I'm going to 128 00:05:27,519 --> 00:05:30,480 start a podcast, and you know, there's millions of non 129 00:05:30,639 --> 00:05:34,000 success stories. What do you think contributed to the fact 130 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,319 that you have grown so much? What was the turning 131 00:05:36,319 --> 00:05:37,319 point for you? 132 00:05:37,319 --> 00:05:39,879 Speaker 3: You know, I love that you asked this question because 133 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:41,879 it's something I'm very proud of. Growing up in northern 134 00:05:41,879 --> 00:05:44,160 California and my parents are Canadians, so we had no 135 00:05:44,199 --> 00:05:47,040 political connections whatsoever. Like I didn't grow up and now 136 00:05:47,079 --> 00:05:48,399 I live in d C. But I did not grow 137 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,240 up in this world. I remember I wanted to work 138 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,800 so badly. I went and visited my girlfriend who now 139 00:05:53,879 --> 00:05:56,279 runs the Conservatory with me out in DC because she 140 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,000 had started interning there and I was like, wow, I 141 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,240 love this. I want to move to DC and I 142 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,199 want to like work politics. And I remember the first 143 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,759 thing I did, I like emailed one hundred offices to 144 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,519 just try to get in like somewhere on the hill 145 00:06:07,519 --> 00:06:09,959 for an internship. I think ninety nine were no and 146 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,199 I got one opportunity and I took it that summer 147 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,240 and I went to Senate and that's when I like, 148 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,319 really my girlfriend and I started developing the conservatour over 149 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,639 that summer. But it goes to show you, like I 150 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,079 think I always tell people that want to get involved 151 00:06:22,079 --> 00:06:24,199 in politics, is you know, get your resume in order 152 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,560 email a million people call as when you as you can. 153 00:06:26,639 --> 00:06:28,240 You don't need to have connections. And then when you 154 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,720 get here, be just a kind, outgoing person and work 155 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,279 really hard and be really flexible, and people want to 156 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,639 see you succeed. I mean not especially in the conservative movement. 157 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,639 I found that there's just people of a lot of 158 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,199 Christians with really great values that literally will do a 159 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:41,800 lot for you. And so that's how I built my 160 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,199 network over time. But I will also tell you this, 161 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,920 when I launched the Conservator. This is a really funny story. 162 00:06:47,399 --> 00:06:50,240 It happened three days before George Floyd and I had 163 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:54,040 just graduated Berkeley, so I was like conservative at Berkeley, 164 00:06:54,079 --> 00:06:56,160 but my parents like antif and now we see at 165 00:06:56,199 --> 00:06:58,399 Charlie Kirk, it is very dangerous to be conservative on 166 00:06:58,439 --> 00:06:59,199 these college. 167 00:06:58,879 --> 00:06:59,959 Speaker 2: Campus right right. 168 00:07:00,199 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 3: My parents were ahead of the curb with that, and 169 00:07:02,199 --> 00:07:04,079 we're very you know, Jamie, we don't want you to 170 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:05,920 out spoken. They're like, you have to wait to release 171 00:07:05,959 --> 00:07:09,879 the Conservator until you've graduated, because you know, Ben Shapiro 172 00:07:09,959 --> 00:07:11,959 came and Coolzer came and spoke at Cal and there 173 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,279 was just so much violence and I mean with Charlie, 174 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,720 like it's just horrific. So I launched it and it 175 00:07:17,759 --> 00:07:20,160 happened to be three days before George Floyd. I lost 176 00:07:20,279 --> 00:07:22,839 all my friends because I refused to post the Black Square. 177 00:07:23,079 --> 00:07:25,480 And I wasn't even mean or anything. I just said, 178 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,439 you know, this is horrible what happened to George Floyd. 179 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,000 But I don't think that this is an indictment on 180 00:07:29,199 --> 00:07:32,399 like America or police officers in general. Like I support 181 00:07:32,399 --> 00:07:34,240 I backed the Blue, I support you know, our brave 182 00:07:34,319 --> 00:07:37,920 police officers, and I don't support the agenda that black lives. 183 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,079 You know that we've talked about that, we've been vindicated 184 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,079 on to be quite frankly so I and when I 185 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,800 posted the Conservator, we did a great thing about uniting 186 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,360 America under like American ideals and coming together, and we 187 00:07:49,399 --> 00:07:52,560 received so much hate. I can't even begin to tell you. 188 00:07:52,639 --> 00:07:54,839 Like everybody I knew was commenting the worst things on 189 00:07:54,879 --> 00:07:57,639 my Instagram. They were posting me like unfriended her. I 190 00:07:57,639 --> 00:07:59,720 had people texting me Jeamie, I can't even like follow 191 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,519 you on scram anymore because people will come after me. 192 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,560 And so when I started, no one supported me, and 193 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,240 it goes to show you if you stick through and 194 00:08:06,279 --> 00:08:08,720 you're brave and courageous and you stick by what you believe, 195 00:08:08,959 --> 00:08:10,519 you'll be right in the end. And that's when we 196 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,399 just after that, we just started building. More and more 197 00:08:12,399 --> 00:08:14,480 women came to us, and I'm just so proud today 198 00:08:14,519 --> 00:08:16,199 we have like almost I think with all of our 199 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,240 social media combined, we have like three hundred thousand like 200 00:08:18,279 --> 00:08:20,759 real women across the country just that love what we do. 201 00:08:20,839 --> 00:08:22,839 And so I think it's a good testament that just 202 00:08:22,839 --> 00:08:26,240 don't let people ever bully you into like submission a men. 203 00:08:26,279 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 4: We totally believe in that too. We've lived through a 204 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,800 lot of that, yes, we have over the year. So 205 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,519 when it comes to friends, because you touched on that 206 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,360 a little bit, friends so called friends and the Berkeley thing, 207 00:08:38,399 --> 00:08:41,879 I'm just fascinated by the Berkeley thing because I mean, 208 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,720 you knew that Berkeley back even in twenty sixteen was 209 00:08:44,759 --> 00:08:47,399 pretty freaking liberal. I mean, like we all we know that. 210 00:08:47,519 --> 00:08:49,879 So like when you went there and you had friends 211 00:08:49,879 --> 00:08:52,559 at Berkeley, did they know you were conservative? And was 212 00:08:52,639 --> 00:08:55,840 that tough? And I mean, and then when all that 213 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:57,799 happened to you, when you started losing friends and they 214 00:08:57,799 --> 00:08:59,639 started finding I mean, were you out like you talk 215 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,639 about you weren't really outwardly conservative or were you? Did 216 00:09:02,639 --> 00:09:04,720 your friends know? Did your friends not know? How did 217 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,519 that work? And then did you lose a lot of friends? 218 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:07,559 And how did you handle that? 219 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,799 Speaker 3: Yeah? So I went to Berkeley because you know, I 220 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,320 grew up in California obviously, and it's a great school. 221 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,000 So when I got in and I was like, in 222 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,840 state tuition, you're going to cal And I was, And 223 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:19,840 I grew up a Calberry's fan, so I was so 224 00:09:19,879 --> 00:09:22,120 excited to go there. And I've kind of I love 225 00:09:22,159 --> 00:09:23,960 that I went to CAL because I always say like 226 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,600 it made me a better conservative because I totally understand 227 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,759 the other side. And you know, I don't think a 228 00:09:28,759 --> 00:09:31,840 lot of liberals really understand us, if I'm being honest, 229 00:09:31,879 --> 00:09:35,039 I think that they're uneducated about what conservatives believe, which 230 00:09:35,039 --> 00:09:37,279 is why they have like some caricatures of us. But 231 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,120 when I was at CAL, I became more and more 232 00:09:39,159 --> 00:09:41,879 conservative over time there, and you know, I did lose 233 00:09:41,919 --> 00:09:44,120 a few friends in fights, but I think it wasn't 234 00:09:44,399 --> 00:09:46,679 super you know, with Trump there, like some of the 235 00:09:46,759 --> 00:09:49,159 kind of the far lefties were very toxic, but I 236 00:09:49,159 --> 00:09:52,240 think like your every day kind of modern liberal wasn't 237 00:09:52,279 --> 00:09:56,679 as toxic until after BLM happened. When BLM happened, that 238 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,000 is just when people lost normal people lost their minds. 239 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,440 And so I legitimately lost basically every single friend I 240 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,360 had a call. They didn't want to be associated with me. 241 00:10:05,639 --> 00:10:09,000 But thankfully I went and worked for this is crazy, 242 00:10:09,039 --> 00:10:10,919 Like within I lost all my friends and I went 243 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,279 and worked in the on the Trump campaign, in the 244 00:10:13,279 --> 00:10:14,639 win overs in the Trump White House and met my 245 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:16,320 best friends that I have such a great group of 246 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,480 conservative people around me and I met my husband doing 247 00:10:18,519 --> 00:10:20,840 all of that. So it was a crazy year for me. 248 00:10:20,919 --> 00:10:22,919 But like I said, I think God always has a plan, 249 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,600 and I think if you stand by and you, like 250 00:10:25,639 --> 00:10:27,720 I said, just don't let people bully you if you 251 00:10:27,759 --> 00:10:29,440 really And my parents I have to say, like my 252 00:10:29,519 --> 00:10:32,120 dad especially, he just always believed in me and has 253 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:33,799 helped me with all of this, and so I'm really 254 00:10:33,799 --> 00:10:34,440 thankful for that. 255 00:10:35,399 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: So in light of everything that's happened over the last 256 00:10:38,039 --> 00:10:40,679 couple of weeks with Charlie Kirk, who who's obviously I 257 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:44,440 mean he he was able to capture the hearts and 258 00:10:44,519 --> 00:10:48,879 minds of gen Z men and and so you know, 259 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,320 we kind of look at you as as the person 260 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,600 that's trying to do the same for young women. 261 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:54,759 Speaker 2: And so. 262 00:10:56,399 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: When you think about trying to capture the most liberal 263 00:11:01,039 --> 00:11:06,120 demographic in the country, which is young women, how how 264 00:11:06,159 --> 00:11:06,840 do you do that? 265 00:11:06,919 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 2: Like, what what do you do? 266 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: You think the momentum behind what happened to Charlie is 267 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,960 going to continue and it'll continue to help. How do 268 00:11:14,039 --> 00:11:17,720 you focus your message to capture those group of women 269 00:11:17,759 --> 00:11:20,039 who are so crazy? 270 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:25,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's really crazy to see their reaction. It 271 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,960 was a lot of women actually, and I'm like, wow, 272 00:11:28,279 --> 00:11:31,600 that was shocking to me. I have to give Charlie 273 00:11:31,639 --> 00:11:34,759 Kirk just such props, like what he's done with young 274 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,120 men has been revolutionary and extraordinary and that's why we 275 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,799 for so many reasons, we're going to miss him so much. 276 00:11:40,799 --> 00:11:43,240 But his mark has just been so left on, you know, 277 00:11:43,279 --> 00:11:46,039 the younger generation, particularly men. And I'm really excited for 278 00:11:46,159 --> 00:11:49,200 Erica Kirk because I think she embodies exactly what we 279 00:11:49,279 --> 00:11:52,000 need to look up to as women. I think women 280 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,080 don't have a lot of great role models. Our role 281 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,600 motors are and I'm not looking to bash women, but 282 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:00,000 like Taylor Swift for example, or you know Olivia Rodriye 283 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,200 Go or a lot of these really far left actresses, 284 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,039 or Eric call her Daddy with Alex Cooper, like, I 285 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:06,799 just don't think that these I think we need more 286 00:12:06,879 --> 00:12:09,759 role models on the conservative side. And so you know, 287 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,480 I think Erica Kirk is a perfect example of a 288 00:12:12,519 --> 00:12:15,360 woman that we preach about at the Conservatory to be 289 00:12:15,639 --> 00:12:17,879 a person who puts your husband and your kids first, 290 00:12:17,919 --> 00:12:20,000 but you can still have a great career, you can 291 00:12:20,039 --> 00:12:22,679 be passionate about stuff. That's what I do in my life. 292 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:24,759 I think you can do it all as an American woman. 293 00:12:25,279 --> 00:12:27,360 And so I really want to carry on that message 294 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,200 that Charlie had for young men and really change the 295 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:30,879 culture of young women. And I think that starts with 296 00:12:30,919 --> 00:12:32,960 having better role models. I think it starts with having 297 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,320 a message that's a little more palatable for women as 298 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,759 well as amazing as So I listened to like so 299 00:12:37,799 --> 00:12:40,240 many conservative men speak and stuff, but I understand that 300 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:41,840 it's very tailored towards men, and so I think a 301 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,399 slightly different message needs to be towards women. Women like yourself, 302 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:46,960 that you guys are reaching out and like you guys 303 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,679 have done great for like your generation of women as well. 304 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,159 Like I think you guys have moved the needle in 305 00:12:51,279 --> 00:12:54,000 such extraordinary ways. Gen X my parents. I think you 306 00:12:54,039 --> 00:12:56,879 guys are gen X correct X. I love gen X. 307 00:12:56,879 --> 00:12:59,000 I think they're such a great generation. They raise gen Z. 308 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,559 That's why we're both like the most conservative generation raised millennials, 309 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,360 how I say, But yeah, I think gen X is 310 00:13:05,879 --> 00:13:08,279 like just phenomenal. And I'll give you a statistic too. 311 00:13:08,759 --> 00:13:13,679 We unmarried woman voted for Kamala Harris plus forty points. 312 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:18,080 Married women voted for Trump plus two points, and so 313 00:13:18,279 --> 00:13:20,120 I think a lot of these women that you know, 314 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,399 a lot of the conservative movement is centered around family policies, 315 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,000 and if you're a mom, a lot of the conservative 316 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,039 movement does appeal to you. And so it's not even 317 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,159 just about politics. For me, it's like, becoming a mom 318 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,919 has been the best decision of my entire life. I 319 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,919 absolutely love it. It's better than any career. Getting married 320 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,600 is better than any career. And so a reminding woman 321 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,840 just how beautiful this life can be, that's full of 322 00:13:40,919 --> 00:13:44,879 actual fulfillment and happiness and not just becoming a corporate 323 00:13:44,919 --> 00:13:47,840 girl boss and never having kids, which is unfortunately what 324 00:13:47,879 --> 00:13:49,559 a lot of women are choosing nowadays, and it's a 325 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:50,840 civilization crisis. 326 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, and being an American woman is pretty remarkable. It's awesome. 327 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,639 We talk about that all the time. It's just like 328 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,639 we all should be grateful. And you're right. I think 329 00:13:58,879 --> 00:14:01,320 you know. I raised gen A gen Z, a fifteen 330 00:14:01,399 --> 00:14:02,879 year old. I have a fifteen year old daughter, and 331 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,320 I always tell her it's the most extraordinary place to 332 00:14:06,399 --> 00:14:09,000 live on the planet. Be grateful to God every day 333 00:14:09,039 --> 00:14:12,679 that you are an American girl. Okay, So who is 334 00:14:13,879 --> 00:14:17,399 the best person, most favorite person, your most fun interview. Ever, 335 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,240 like what do you what would you say that who 336 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:19,960 that would be. 337 00:14:20,039 --> 00:14:24,039 Speaker 2: Obviously other than us? Yeah, obviously are. 338 00:14:23,879 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 3: You talking about who I've interviewed for the Conservatis. 339 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, like who you've or who you've met, somebody who 340 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,360 you've met who you wanted to meet or never thought 341 00:14:31,399 --> 00:14:33,080 you would meet, and you're like, oh my gosh, and 342 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,200 they turned out to be like amazing. 343 00:14:34,879 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 3: Or I mean this, I feel like I don't even 344 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,799 want to hurt anybody. I've actually like in the conservative movement. 345 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:41,919 I've like yet to have a bad experience. Like everyone 346 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,720 I meet is like really kind and like very I've 347 00:14:44,759 --> 00:14:47,960 enjoyed my conversations. I will give two people who just 348 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,399 immediately come to mind. Laura Trump was our first big interview, 349 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,960 and she wore our Make America Hot Again hat, and 350 00:14:54,039 --> 00:14:56,600 she's just been so gracious and amazing to us. And 351 00:14:56,919 --> 00:15:00,159 she's truly that role model woman that does it all 352 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,159 and you can do it all. She's a great mom, 353 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,519 a devoted wife, but she also has such a strong 354 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,840 voice in herself and I love that. And my other 355 00:15:06,879 --> 00:15:09,519 one is Caroline Lovett. I'm just so impressed by her, 356 00:15:09,799 --> 00:15:12,600 and you know, she's just rising to the moon right 357 00:15:12,639 --> 00:15:15,240 now with everything she's doing. But yet she's such a 358 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,480 humble person and like just whenever I've been in any 359 00:15:18,519 --> 00:15:20,639 room of her, she always makes it like time to 360 00:15:20,679 --> 00:15:23,039 come over, how are you doing ketchup on like my 361 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:24,600 wife or whatever, And I'm like, you don't need to 362 00:15:24,639 --> 00:15:26,879 do that, Like you're very busy. I'm nobody can hear 363 00:15:26,919 --> 00:15:30,320 to you. And I just really have enjoyed what she's 364 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,519 doing for the administration right now, but also just personal interactions. 365 00:15:33,519 --> 00:15:36,279 But like I said, we've talked to so many great people. 366 00:15:36,559 --> 00:15:40,799 I really, I'm just I'm very inspired by so many 367 00:15:40,879 --> 00:15:42,600 women in her so many. 368 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 4: Young accomplished women. And You're right, I mean a lot 369 00:15:45,759 --> 00:15:48,320 of those women are role models for my fifteen year 370 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,000 old daughter, which is a wonderful thing. 371 00:15:50,279 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 372 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: Well, and I can think of a great example that 373 00:15:52,519 --> 00:15:55,919 you guys just featured Riley Gaines. You just did a 374 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,399 feature on her, and I'm sure that that was amazing. 375 00:15:58,480 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 2: Is that out and available? 376 00:15:59,679 --> 00:16:02,639 Speaker 3: Yes, that just came out today. Like I said, I 377 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,440 actually I've only met Riley once really briefly because I'm 378 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,639 working on another project for the Conservatory. So we had 379 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,960 our great Bethany Miller. She does all the photography and 380 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:12,960 writing for us. So she did that shoot and she 381 00:16:13,039 --> 00:16:15,559 said the best things about Riley, and wow, the photos 382 00:16:15,559 --> 00:16:18,480 look amazing and so happy she's taking that journey into motherhood. 383 00:16:18,519 --> 00:16:20,320 I mean, she's just great what she's been able to 384 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,679 do for young women and another great role mom. We 385 00:16:22,799 --> 00:16:24,960 just have such a great bench in the conservative movement. 386 00:16:25,039 --> 00:16:28,480 Like that's true, we do, and I'm really inspired by that. 387 00:16:28,759 --> 00:16:29,159 Speaker 4: We do. 388 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 2: So do you how many kids do you have, Jamie? 389 00:16:31,759 --> 00:16:32,559 Speaker 3: Just one right now? 390 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 4: Just one right now? 391 00:16:33,639 --> 00:16:34,159 Speaker 3: More soon? 392 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 4: Okay? Is it a daughter a son? 393 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and her name's Vivian. She is and a half 394 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:43,200 years old. She is a wild one, so she really busy. 395 00:16:43,399 --> 00:16:44,639 And you know, my husband and I got married at 396 00:16:44,639 --> 00:16:46,360 twenty three, we had her at twenty four. We're the 397 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,720 same age. So I kind of like in this period 398 00:16:48,759 --> 00:16:50,360 of time right now that I get to just enjoy 399 00:16:50,399 --> 00:16:52,519 her for the moment. I think that's a really special time. 400 00:16:52,559 --> 00:16:54,159 You know, a lot of people have kids a little 401 00:16:54,159 --> 00:16:55,399 bit later now and so it's a little bit more 402 00:16:55,399 --> 00:16:58,080 of a rush. But yeah, we're definitely thinking about another one, so. 403 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 4: That is fantastic. Do you think that, you know, just 404 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,519 looking forward, she has a long way to go before 405 00:17:04,519 --> 00:17:06,680 she goes to college. But would you send her to 406 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,960 Berkeley or would you, you know, maybe try to steer 407 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,160 her in a different direction. 408 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 3: Well, one, she can never be a liberal because she 409 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,720 came into this earth because of President Trump. I always 410 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,680 say that already because my husband I met on the 411 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,200 Trump campaign. So I'm like, you're here because of President Trump. 412 00:17:22,319 --> 00:17:25,799 So I joke. But she has such a little defiant personality. 413 00:17:25,799 --> 00:17:30,480 I'm sure she'll go through a phase. There's like a 414 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,799 big movement, and I totally understand why people want to 415 00:17:32,799 --> 00:17:35,039 pull out of these colleges, and I get that, Like 416 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,960 I'm not coming down super hard on this, but I 417 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,720 will say, for me, I really enjoyed going to Berkeley. 418 00:17:40,759 --> 00:17:43,079 I think I don't I don't believe in pulling out 419 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,279 of these institutions just in general, Like I think we 420 00:17:45,319 --> 00:17:47,839 need to go offer these institutions. And I think there's 421 00:17:47,839 --> 00:17:49,759 been a real change on college campuses. I mean you 422 00:17:49,759 --> 00:17:52,839 look at like everyone who came out for visuals across 423 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,319 the country. So I think more and more the younger 424 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,440 generation is moving more right, and so I would love 425 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,920 for her to like go to a great school like 426 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,720 cal and go and test your ideas and debate people. 427 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,240 I think that's a very important thing, and I think 428 00:18:06,279 --> 00:18:08,720 you can learn a lot doing so. But I think 429 00:18:08,759 --> 00:18:11,200 you need to be really strong in your values before 430 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,160 you go. And I think that's important for parents to 431 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:14,799 make sure that you've instilled your kids have a great 432 00:18:14,839 --> 00:18:17,880 set of values heading in, because if you're not sure 433 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,319 about yourself yet, that's when the communist agenda can really. 434 00:18:21,319 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 2: Yes, I love that answer. I love it. 435 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:30,279 Speaker 1: So when you think about the Conservator five years from now, 436 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,759 what is success going to look like for you? 437 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,079 Speaker 3: Well, I can't announce anything yet, but I think you'll 438 00:18:37,079 --> 00:18:39,720 see very soon. We have some really great things in 439 00:18:39,759 --> 00:18:41,920 the works. And you know what my goal is, Like 440 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:45,240 I said, like, as much as I've never been in 441 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,400 this to make money or whatever, I really mean that, 442 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,640 Like I haven't really made anything a boy being honest, 443 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,680 I'm in here really to like change hearts and minds 444 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,799 for young women. Like I really believe that we have 445 00:18:54,839 --> 00:18:56,720 a better message. We have a positive message. I want 446 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,000 to build woman up. I want to bring them back 447 00:18:58,039 --> 00:18:59,960 to church. I want to show them the beauty a mother, 448 00:19:00,279 --> 00:19:03,240 marriage and pursuing your career and everything that this country offers. 449 00:19:03,279 --> 00:19:05,680 And so I think my goal is to really change 450 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,039 the culture and see and so we can start see 451 00:19:08,039 --> 00:19:11,160 a shift in that the voting demographics that I just 452 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,599 laid out. That's the most important to me at the 453 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,480 end of the day. I love this country and I 454 00:19:15,559 --> 00:19:17,400 want this country to be great, and I think what 455 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,839 we've done with men has been just extraordinary. But you're 456 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:21,880 going to see there's gonna be problems into marriages if 457 00:19:22,039 --> 00:19:24,640 when women are on opposite sides of the spectrum. So 458 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:26,720 that's really my goal at the end of the day. 459 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: Okay, So how can people follow you, find you and 460 00:19:33,039 --> 00:19:34,319 explore more of what you do? 461 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,559 Speaker 3: Yes, so you can go to our website, The conservator 462 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:41,079 dot com, follow us on Instagram at the Conservator. You 463 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,480 can follow me at Jamie Lee Franklin. And we have 464 00:19:43,519 --> 00:19:45,599 another adventure coming up very soon that I hope you 465 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,279 follow as well, So just stay tuned. 466 00:19:47,759 --> 00:19:49,599 Speaker 2: I love it, and you guys have the cutest swag. 467 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,160 By the way, I have to get SyES. 468 00:19:51,599 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 3: Love it, Sen have your producer send me your addresses 469 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:57,559 and we will shift you some stuff. 470 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 2: I love Yay. I love it so much. 471 00:20:00,039 --> 00:20:00,559 Speaker 4: Thank you so much. 472 00:20:00,559 --> 00:20:02,599 Speaker 2: It was a lovely meeting you, Jamie, it really was. 473 00:20:02,759 --> 00:20:04,799 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. You guys 474 00:20:04,839 --> 00:20:06,680 have done great things. I'm just so impressed.