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<v Speaker 1>On a cold afternoon in May nineteen seventy three, a

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<v Speaker 1>quiet town in northwestern Ontario became the stage for one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most shocking crimes in Canadian history. A masked

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<v Speaker 1>stranger walked into a bank carrying guns, explosives, and a

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<v Speaker 1>plan that would end in fire, chaos, and death, all

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<v Speaker 1>while being broadcast live and people watched from the streets.

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<v Speaker 1>More than fifty years later, we still know exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>happened that day, but what we do not know is

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<v Speaker 1>who the man was who said it all in motion.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the story of the Canora bank robber.

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<v Speaker 2>My name's Ben, I'm Nicole and you're listening to Wicked

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<v Speaker 2>and Grim, a true crime podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>The following podcast material intended more mature audience listener discretion.

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<v Speaker 1>It is almost twenty twenty six. Christmas has passed and

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<v Speaker 1>we are in that time where nothing absolutely matters whatsoever,

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<v Speaker 1>not the calories or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, those it's like what just a few days? Really,

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<v Speaker 2>you know that you get of that pretty much and

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<v Speaker 2>then boom. Then you have to have every single goal

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<v Speaker 2>you ever wanted in your life set for twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you better start now otherwise you're lazy. Yes, Sutton.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just kidding. You're definitely not, but that seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be the expectation. Yeah, don't listen to it. You're amazing

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<v Speaker 1>just the way you are. You do, Yeah, you do.

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<v Speaker 1>You If you want to be a little healthier, be

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<v Speaker 1>a little healthier, you want to be a little more active,

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<v Speaker 1>be a little more active. If you want to spend

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<v Speaker 1>more time at home in your pjs, spend more fucking

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<v Speaker 1>time at home in your pjs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that sounds nice, right. Why am I not wearing

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<v Speaker 2>pjs right now?

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of them. My jeans are not, but they

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<v Speaker 1>are stretchy. But I am wearing just a comfy hoodie,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>We actually have to talk about this. So when I

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<v Speaker 2>come home, like I don't wear pajamas per se, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, you know, sweatpants or like stretchy yoga pants

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<v Speaker 2>and like a nice sweater, crew neck or whatever, like

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<v Speaker 2>comfy clothes. Ben doesn't do that. He always has his

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<v Speaker 2>fucking jeans on, and I would lose my mind. There's

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<v Speaker 2>just no way. But there's no way I could live

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<v Speaker 2>life like that.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like a stretchy denim though, So it's not that bad.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just like the stiff No, it's weird. It's weird.

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<v Speaker 2>You drink black coffee, you wear jeans as comfy clothes like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just nah, I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>A redneck, that's why.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why genes to me, I don't think would ever

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<v Speaker 2>be like a comfy pant. But maybe I just don't

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<v Speaker 2>have the right genes.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to be a specific kind of person to

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<v Speaker 1>understand and appreciate the comfortability of genes.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Well, maybe you need to try on

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<v Speaker 2>some Lululemon a line pants maybe and tell me what

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<v Speaker 2>you think.

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<v Speaker 1>Because what I do when I come home, I may

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<v Speaker 1>not put on some Lululemon or some sweatpants or something

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<v Speaker 1>company like that, but I do take my belt off. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes I even just unbutton my genes and that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice taking the belt off. This is probably TMI, maybe,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's kind of maybe equivalent to like taking your

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<v Speaker 2>braw off.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably be like a little bit of a deep breath,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely, something that's tight and constricting just loosens you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know what's not tight and constricting though hatreon.

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<v Speaker 2>I like, is there going to be able to be

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<v Speaker 2>a segway from all?

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely Hatreon is not tightened constricting because you get extra things,

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<v Speaker 1>you get more, you get the behind the scenes and

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<v Speaker 1>an exclusive episode that will be coming out tomorrow. And

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<v Speaker 1>we have some amazing people who signed up like Michelle O'Donnell,

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<v Speaker 1>Jojo Austin, Gregory Kirie, and Sarah Kent. So thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for those amazing people who are not being

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, tomorrow is an extra drop, an extra episode

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<v Speaker 2>dropped on there, so it is pretty exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>Though it might be a little later in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>This one's a late, a little later in the day

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm a little bit in that holiday mood and

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<v Speaker 1>try trying to get back into my work schedule is

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<v Speaker 1>a little difficult.

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<v Speaker 2>It is tough this time of year to kind of feel,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, super motivated, and then you're also have a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more obligations with like friends and stuff. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you can get behind you.

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<v Speaker 1>But it will be coming out tomorrow and they will

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<v Speaker 1>get that access.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, well this one, I'm intrigued. I think we

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<v Speaker 2>need to dive right in.

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<v Speaker 1>You're intrigued, what about it intrigues you. The fact that

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<v Speaker 1>it's a Canadian one.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I miss that.

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<v Speaker 1>I sent me intro. It's from Ontario. It's a quote.

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<v Speaker 1>A quiet town in northwestern Ontario became the stage for

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most shocking crimes in Canadian history. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I said in the intro quote unquote.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I must not have been listening at that point.

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<v Speaker 1>You must not have been listening to Do you want

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<v Speaker 1>me to just read the intro again?

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<v Speaker 2>No? No, no, I do really like Canadian cases too,

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<v Speaker 2>So this is extra bonness. That's great. I would have

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<v Speaker 2>heard it eventually, or when we would have stopped because

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<v Speaker 2>we needed to do something, I'd be like, where does

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<v Speaker 2>this take place?

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<v Speaker 1>Probably, well, I will sell you. I will tell you this.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a little like I'm starting to implement, like

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<v Speaker 1>a little intro here where I'm trying to set the

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<v Speaker 1>scene for the entirety of the story. And what I

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<v Speaker 1>have here is the very first sentence with the locations

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<v Speaker 1>you would have caught up right away.

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<v Speaker 2>Perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So with that, let me set the scene. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to start with Canora, Ontario, which is location.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was a kind of place where afternoons kind

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<v Speaker 1>of meld together pretty easy. It was a small city

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<v Speaker 1>near the Manitoba border, surrounded by lakes and trees, where

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<v Speaker 1>big news usually meant the weather warnings that would come out,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe a highway closure or something like that. But

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<v Speaker 1>on Thursday May tenth, nineteen seventy three, well, it was

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<v Speaker 1>a little different. The day itself didn't really feel special

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<v Speaker 1>at all. It was a cool, gray and dreary spring

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<v Speaker 1>afternoon where people moved a little slower and kept their

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<v Speaker 1>heads down, as if the weather directly correlated to their motions.

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<v Speaker 1>Just after three pm, Main Street South looked the way

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<v Speaker 1>it always did. Shops were open, cars passed through, and

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<v Speaker 1>people were at work. Kids were in fact Stone School,

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<v Speaker 1>with radios humming in offices and storefronts, going about their day.

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<v Speaker 1>But across the street from the Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce,

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<v Speaker 1>a local radio station carried on with its regular programming,

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<v Speaker 1>unaware that they were about to see something pretty interesting. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing suggested that within minutes, this quiet stretch of down

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<v Speaker 1>town would become the most infamous location in the city's history.

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<v Speaker 1>Inside the Bank, it was busy as usual. Tellers worked

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<v Speaker 1>their stations, managers handled calls, and money moved across counters

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<v Speaker 1>in the ordinary and rather unremarkable fashion that it always had.

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<v Speaker 1>There were no alarms ringing or no shouting of people,

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<v Speaker 1>and no sense that anything was about to go wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>But that is when a man walked through the front doors,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was unlike anyone the bank had ever seen before.

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't in a hurry or running or shouting. He

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<v Speaker 1>was masked and he looked like anything but just another

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<v Speaker 1>customer stepping out of the cold. Within moments, that calm

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<v Speaker 1>was completely gone, and the routine of the afternoon while

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<v Speaker 1>it cracked wide open as Canora, was then pulled into

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<v Speaker 1>something it had never experienced before. It was something that

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<v Speaker 1>would unfold in real time in front of hundreds of

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<v Speaker 1>witnesses and leave behind questions that still haven't been answered today,

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<v Speaker 1>more than fifty years later. And with that, I think

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<v Speaker 1>we can get into our story a little more. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you have any questions, any thoughts?

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<v Speaker 2>Where did this take place? Just kidding?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, man, well it took place.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, I'm not gonna lie. I haven't heard of Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I've obviously heard of Ontario, but I haven't heard of

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<v Speaker 2>this city, Canora.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a little bit of a smaller place for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so we're good though, Yeah, I'm I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's get into it. In nineteen seventy three, Canora

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<v Speaker 1>was still very much a small city pretending to be

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<v Speaker 1>bigger than it was. The population sat around roughly eleven

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<v Speaker 1>thousand people, and most everyone either knew each other or

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<v Speaker 1>knew of each other. It was a working town with mills, boats,

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<v Speaker 1>and some tourism in the warmer months. It was also

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<v Speaker 1>a place where a serious crime was rare enough to

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<v Speaker 1>be talked about four years later when it happened. Now

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<v Speaker 1>downtown Canora revolved around its main Street South, which was

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<v Speaker 1>a compact stretch of road where businesses sat shoulder to

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<v Speaker 1>shoulder and the Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce was right

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of it.

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<v Speaker 2>All.

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<v Speaker 1>Across the street stood the local AM radio station. Its

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<v Speaker 1>second floor window overlooked the sidewalks and the bank's front doors.

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<v Speaker 1>Nearby were restaurants, department stores, hotels, and bars, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>places filled with people. On Honestly, any normal weekday afternoon,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a busy hub and that layout would turn

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<v Speaker 1>into a very strong matter for the story, more than

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<v Speaker 1>anyone realized. Because Kenora wasn't built for an event like

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<v Speaker 1>what was about to happen. I mean, no place really

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<v Speaker 1>is not for crowd control or not for a hostage situation,

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<v Speaker 1>and it certainly wasn't ready for something like a bomb

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<v Speaker 1>threat playing out in front of hundreds of spectators. And

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<v Speaker 1>by the time anyone realized how bad this could get,

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<v Speaker 1>the street, well, it was already filling up. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just a regular Thursday afternoon at first, but soon this

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<v Speaker 1>day began turning into a public spectacle, one that nearly

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<v Speaker 1>ten percent of the entire town's population would end up

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<v Speaker 1>watching first hand. Okay, and the man who'd set it

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<v Speaker 1>all in motion while he'd already been lurking in Canora

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<v Speaker 1>for weeks, the first trace of him in Canora appeared

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<v Speaker 1>more than two weeks before the explosion that would come.

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<v Speaker 1>On April twenty third, nineteen seventy three, a man checked

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<v Speaker 1>into the swankiest hotel in town, the Kenrica Hotel. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a solid brick building on Main Street that catered

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<v Speaker 1>to traveling workers, salesmen, and the occasional tourists. He signed

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<v Speaker 1>the registry under the name Paul Higgins and listed his

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<v Speaker 1>address as four three five Glen Drive, Toronto. He arrived

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<v Speaker 1>with a yellow steamer trunk in tow. It was large

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<v Speaker 1>and heavy enough that the taxi driver who brought him

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<v Speaker 1>to the hotel had to help him carry it inside,

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<v Speaker 1>and painted on it clearly on the lid was p Higgins,

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<v Speaker 1>clearly standing for Paul Higgins. Now. The man didn't talk much.

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<v Speaker 1>When he did, it was very brief at best. The

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<v Speaker 1>taxi driver later said he thought he heard a foreign

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<v Speaker 1>accent in his tone, possibly French, maybe even German when

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<v Speaker 1>he spoke, but the man didn't say enough to really

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<v Speaker 1>be sure. The hotel staff noticed something too. He wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>rude or dismissing, but he wasn't exactly friendly either. He

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<v Speaker 1>simply just kind of kept to himself. Now. Physically he

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<v Speaker 1>you know, more about being practical. All in all, he

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<v Speaker 1>then forget moments later. At the time, there was no

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<v Speaker 1>reason to remember this man. Canora saw strangers pass through

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<v Speaker 1>all the time, whether they were truck drivers, seasonal workers,

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<v Speaker 1>or men heading west or men headed east and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with intention to not really stay long here. Paul Higgins,

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<v Speaker 1>for all intents and purposes, looked just like another one

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<v Speaker 1>of them. Now, over the next few days, the unremarkable

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<v Speaker 1>Paul Higgins became a familiar presence around the downtown Canora.

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<v Speaker 2>I was waiting for that unremarkable word. Yeah, why, because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, that's it's such an interesting way to

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<v Speaker 2>once and then they're gone out of your mind or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>How about you describe that as to people sometimes? And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it's just I was like, he's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>I'm surprised he hasn't said unremarkable.

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<v Speaker 1>Should I stop saying unremarkable on the podcast? No?

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<v Speaker 2>No, okay, But I do have one question already, was

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<v Speaker 2>guy was there or was he kind of just a tourist.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they really asked why he was just

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<v Speaker 1>staying there just there. No, they didn't ask like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>just he booked a room and that was that, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And outside of that he was pretty unremarkable.

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<v Speaker 2>Unremarkable, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>He was now being as unremarkable as he was. He

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<v Speaker 1>then proceeded to move through the town quietly. He walked

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<v Speaker 1>main street, drifted past shop windows, and lingered near local businesses,

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<v Speaker 1>including the bank, not long enough to really draw suspicion

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<v Speaker 1>or attention, though those who interacted with him described him

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, the same thing again and again. He

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<v Speaker 1>engage in small talk. If spoken to, he replied in brief,

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<v Speaker 1>clipped sentences, sometimes just a word or two. A few

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<v Speaker 1>people thought they heard of European accent, and they're possibly

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<v Speaker 1>German in his voice. Others, well, they weren't too sure

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<v Speaker 1>at all. At a town restaurant, downtown, staff began to

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<v Speaker 1>notice patterns. Higgins came in at the same time every

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<v Speaker 1>single morning, always sat at the same seat, and always

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<v Speaker 1>positioned himself so we face inward rather than outwards to

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<v Speaker 1>the street. He ordered the same meal to the point

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, whether the waitress or the server would

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<v Speaker 1>come up and ask the usual the regular, and he

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<v Speaker 1>day without any variation. Before eating, he would wipe down utensils, carefully,

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<v Speaker 1>rearrange condiment size and height going in order, and reset

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<v Speaker 1>the table as if someone were almost meant to join him.

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<v Speaker 1>But then when his meal came, he'd proceed to eat alone.

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<v Speaker 1>To people watching, it felt a little off, not threatening,

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<v Speaker 1>just a little unnerving, like watching someone rehearse something you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't quite understand. By now, multiple people had clocked the

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<v Speaker 1>same details. The brownish red beard, average height and build,

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<v Speaker 1>Vedora style hat that he wore, quiet and rupt demeanor.

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<v Speaker 1>Now a very key detail came out on April twenty fifth,

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<v Speaker 1>when the man calling himself Paul Higgins checked out of

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<v Speaker 1>the hotel that he was staying in and appeared to

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<v Speaker 1>leave Canora altogether. Hotel staff later told police that Higgins

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<v Speaker 1>said he was heading west by bus towards Winnipeg, a

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<v Speaker 1>very believable explanation. In a town accustomed to transient and

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<v Speaker 1>short term stays and workers passing by. Nothing about his

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<v Speaker 1>departure seemed unusual. Guests left town every single day. Higgins

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<v Speaker 1>simply became one of the many more names to cross

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<v Speaker 1>off the registry, except he didn't take everything with him

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<v Speaker 1>and his name coming off the registry. Well, it stayed

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<v Speaker 1>because instead of clearing out his room, Higgins asked the

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<v Speaker 1>hotel to store his yellow steamer trunk, the same one

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<v Speaker 1>that was stenciled with P. Higgins in bold lettering. Now

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<v Speaker 1>he paid for the continued use and storage of his

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<v Speaker 1>hotel room in advance, offering no explanation beyond a casual

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<v Speaker 1>assurance that he would be back. Then walked out of

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<v Speaker 1>the hotel and vanished.

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<v Speaker 2>And I imagine that's kind of considered a bit odd.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean a little bit. But who are they to question?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that's a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 1>It is. He's paying in advance for a hotel room

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<v Speaker 1>for a week or so that he's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be staying in, and to store his trunk. I mean, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>why not. They don't have to clean, maintain, or try

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<v Speaker 1>and resell the room. They're getting the income. Sure, why

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<v Speaker 1>not go on your way to win a peg, like

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<v Speaker 1>you say, by boss, and we'll see you when you're back.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it makes sense for them for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly So for the next several days, Paul Higgins didn't

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<v Speaker 1>seem to be around. He was simply gone. There was

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<v Speaker 1>no confirmed sightings, no records placing him firmly in Winnipeg

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<v Speaker 1>even or anywhere else. If you met someone acquired materials,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe or maybe finalized his intentions during that window, it

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<v Speaker 1>happened very quietly and without any witness's presence. Even when

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<v Speaker 1>police later tried to reconstruct his movements, the trail ended

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<v Speaker 1>almost as soon as it began. Then, on May fifth,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy three, Paul Higgins made his way back to Kenora.

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<v Speaker 1>He checked into the same hotel again under the same name,

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<v Speaker 1>using the same fake Toronto address, and reclaimed the steamer

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<v Speaker 1>trunk he had left behind. This time, he didn't drift

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<v Speaker 1>through town like a visitor killing time, though. His movements

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<v Speaker 1>seemed quieter and very much so more deliberate than they

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<v Speaker 1>were before. He walked Main Street like he did, but

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<v Speaker 1>he lingered a little longer near storefronts, passing banks without

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<v Speaker 1>going inside, And like before, he didn't strike up those conversations.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't ask questions. He just simply seemed to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Those who remembered him from April well. They said something

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<v Speaker 1>different seemed to be there, something felt changed. He seemed

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<v Speaker 1>more focus and less distracted. Possibly by routine. Now inside

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<v Speaker 1>his hotel room, Paul Higgins also spent long st of

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<v Speaker 1>time alone. When he came out from there, well, there

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<v Speaker 1>seemed to be no rhyme or reason to what he

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<v Speaker 1>was going to go do. Sometimes he would disappear for hours.

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<v Speaker 1>No one saw him with friends or acquaintances, no one

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<v Speaker 1>saw him carrying large packages, and no one heard arguments

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<v Speaker 1>or laughter or raised voices through the walls. He was

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<v Speaker 1>moving like a shadow whose presence in Canora grew larger

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<v Speaker 1>and larger without anyone really seeming to notice. By the

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<v Speaker 1>second week of May, Paul Higgins' attention narrowed. Several people

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<v Speaker 1>later recalled in hindsight seeing him pause outside banks, including

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<v Speaker 1>the Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce on Main Street South.

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<v Speaker 1>He reportedly stopped, simply looked, and then moved on, without

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<v Speaker 1>any outward signs of urgency or even visible anxiety. Nothing

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<v Speaker 1>about him or his motions suggested the violence that was

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<v Speaker 1>about to unfold. The afternoon of Thursday May tenth, nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy three started just like any other typical day in Canora.

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<v Speaker 1>It was mid afternoon, around two forty five pm, the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of slow stretch between lunch and closing time, when

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<v Speaker 1>the main street felt almost sleepy. People moved in and

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<v Speaker 1>out of shops, cars idled along the curb and inside

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<v Speaker 1>the Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce on Main Street South,

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<v Speaker 1>staff were finishing the routine transactions, unaware they were only

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<v Speaker 1>minutes away from experiencing an infamous and historical moment for

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<v Speaker 1>the town. And that's when the doors opened and a

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<v Speaker 1>man stepped inside wearing a black belaklava mask, its fabrics

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<v Speaker 1>stretched tight over his face, with crude openings cut for

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<v Speaker 1>his mouth and nose and eyes. He was carrying a

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<v Speaker 1>large bag. He was armed, and he moved with an

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<v Speaker 1>unsettling calm that didn't match the situation he was about

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<v Speaker 1>to create.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be such an alarming site working pretty much anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>especially at a bank.

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<v Speaker 1>I at a bank, it paints almost immediately the intentions

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<v Speaker 1>behind an individual. Yeah, and you know the scene that's

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<v Speaker 1>about to play out. I mean, but yes, any situation scary.

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<v Speaker 1>But we've grown accustomed to what a bank robber looks like.

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<v Speaker 1>And the second you catch that out of your peripheral

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<v Speaker 1>being in a bank, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Immediately, Yeah, that it's just daunting.

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<v Speaker 1>Really now, witnesses and later police reports would confirm that

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<v Speaker 1>he carried both a rifle and a pistol with him,

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<v Speaker 1>along with a shoulder bag or a flight bag some

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<v Speaker 1>would call it, and another duffel bag as well in.

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<v Speaker 2>Tow so very prepared, very prepared.

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<v Speaker 1>But when he stepped in, he didn't shout, he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>take his gun and fire a warning shot to gather attention.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, he didn't even draw attention to himself other

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<v Speaker 1>than the way he looked. He simply walked directly towards

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<v Speaker 1>the bank manager's office and took a seat in the

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<v Speaker 1>chair across from his desk. Al Reid was the bank manager,

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<v Speaker 1>and as he sat down next to al Reed or

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<v Speaker 1>across from him, he placed a large Duffel bag on

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<v Speaker 1>the floor beside him, and then he made a demand

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<v Speaker 1>that instantly set this robbery apart from every other one

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<v Speaker 1>Canora or any other place in Canada has ever seen before,

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<v Speaker 1>because he specifically told the manager called the police.

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<v Speaker 2>He told the manager to call the police.

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<v Speaker 1>He did.

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<v Speaker 2>I was not expecting that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think the manager was either.

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<v Speaker 2>No, well, the manager was probably also shitting himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably it is a very high likelihood.

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<v Speaker 2>Of that, Yeah, because that's scariest shit definitely now.

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<v Speaker 1>When al Reed had this situation upon him, he hesitated,

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<v Speaker 1>and the robber made it clear he wasn't bluffing. He

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<v Speaker 1>pulled out his pistol and pointed it at him from

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<v Speaker 1>across the down demanding he called the police. Oh I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like that, so read quickly obliged and dialed as instructed.

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<v Speaker 1>The call went through and as soon as the line

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<v Speaker 1>was connected directly to Canora's Chief of Police, Webb Angstrom.

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<v Speaker 1>The message he sent was simple, there's a robbery in progress,

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<v Speaker 1>and the man inside was prepared to escalate the situation

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<v Speaker 1>if his demands were not going to be met. The

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<v Speaker 1>mass man then took control of the space with an

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<v Speaker 1>unsettling calm. He ordered customers and most staff to leave

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<v Speaker 1>the building, one group at a time, keeping only what

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<v Speaker 1>he needed inside. By the time the doors were locked

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<v Speaker 1>once again, the bank felt very hollow and painfully small.

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<v Speaker 1>Only a handful of people remained inside, including the bank robber,

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<v Speaker 1>the manager a'l Reed, and at least one police officer

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<v Speaker 1>who had cautiously entered for early negotiations so he was

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<v Speaker 1>tie to the outside. The robber began directing them to

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<v Speaker 1>gather cash from the teller's drawers and stuffing them into

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<v Speaker 1>the duffel bag that he had brought with him. Then

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<v Speaker 1>he showed them what was in a second bag, the

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<v Speaker 1>shoulder bag that was hanging from his body. Inside was

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<v Speaker 1>a homemade explosive device with six sticks of dynamite bound

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<v Speaker 1>together with tape and wired to a crude trigger mechanism.

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<v Speaker 1>The robber calmly explained that it was all live explosives,

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<v Speaker 1>and to make the point unmistakably clear, he lifted a

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<v Speaker 1>trigger and placed it between his teeth, biting down on it.

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<v Speaker 1>The device was rigged with something that is called a

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<v Speaker 1>dead man's switch. You have to hold the switch down,

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<v Speaker 1>think like a button, holding the button down to maintain

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<v Speaker 1>a connection. And so long as that happens, so long

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<v Speaker 1>as that connection is maintained. How long is this? So

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<v Speaker 1>long as the switch, sure, the button however you want

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<v Speaker 1>to look at it is held down, then that means

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<v Speaker 1>the explosive will not detonate. But if he lets go

422
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<v Speaker 1>of this switch, release boom the bomb triggers.

423
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, jeez, this is really setting the scene of just

424
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<v Speaker 2>what it would feel like in there.

425
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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and the reason they call it a dead man's

426
00:24:23.720 --> 00:24:27.720
<v Speaker 1>switch is because if he loses consciousness, if he's shot,

427
00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:29.920
<v Speaker 1>if he is killed, if someone tries to take it

428
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<v Speaker 1>away from him, or if he releases the trigger or

429
00:24:32.680 --> 00:24:37.759
<v Speaker 1>switch for any reason whatsoever, for example, if he dies,

430
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<v Speaker 1>the bomb detonates.

431
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Okay, I didn't go there for some reason, but

432
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<v Speaker 2>that does make sense.

433
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<v Speaker 1>One wrong move could kill every single person in this yeah. Now.

434
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<v Speaker 1>Read later said that the man didn't appear frantic or intoxicated.

435
00:24:53.480 --> 00:24:56.839
<v Speaker 1>He spoke very clearly, He gave instructions without shouting, and

436
00:24:56.960 --> 00:24:59.960
<v Speaker 1>yet there was an unmistakable sense that he didn't care

437
00:25:00.319 --> 00:25:04.200
<v Speaker 1>how this ended, as long as it ended on his terms,

438
00:25:04.599 --> 00:25:09.200
<v Speaker 1>which is a very terrifying situation, to say the least. Next,

439
00:25:09.599 --> 00:25:12.000
<v Speaker 1>the robber demanded access to the vault in the bank,

440
00:25:12.240 --> 00:25:14.359
<v Speaker 1>and Reid told him that he couldn't open it without

441
00:25:14.400 --> 00:25:18.680
<v Speaker 1>an external code. The man well, He responded by threatening

442
00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:21.160
<v Speaker 1>to let go of the switch and building up if

443
00:25:21.160 --> 00:25:24.400
<v Speaker 1>he didn't get that code, so face with the reality

444
00:25:24.440 --> 00:25:26.519
<v Speaker 1>of the device in front of him, the code was

445
00:25:26.599 --> 00:25:31.200
<v Speaker 1>soon obtained and the vault was opened. Cash was then

446
00:25:31.279 --> 00:25:34.400
<v Speaker 1>beginning to be transferred from the vault into additional bags,

447
00:25:34.680 --> 00:25:38.160
<v Speaker 1>until the robber could barely carry any more. By then,

448
00:25:38.279 --> 00:25:41.400
<v Speaker 1>the floor was cluttered with money filled in duffel bags,

449
00:25:41.400 --> 00:25:46.720
<v Speaker 1>and the tension made the bank inside suffocating. Outside meanwhile,

450
00:25:47.359 --> 00:25:51.200
<v Speaker 1>police negotiators were running out of options. The man had

451
00:25:51.240 --> 00:25:55.559
<v Speaker 1>everything he'd been asking for except for one final demand

452
00:25:57.119 --> 00:26:00.960
<v Speaker 1>safe passage out of the bank, and had to help

453
00:26:01.000 --> 00:26:05.279
<v Speaker 1>them escape. As police were trying to figure out how

454
00:26:05.319 --> 00:26:09.599
<v Speaker 1>to deal with the situation, things outside were becoming uncontrollable.

455
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<v Speaker 1>You see, as I mentioned, directly across from the main

456
00:26:12.960 --> 00:26:16.079
<v Speaker 1>street sat a local AM radio station.

457
00:26:16.039 --> 00:26:18.480
<v Speaker 2>Mm HMM with a great view exactly, and.

458
00:26:18.440 --> 00:26:22.160
<v Speaker 1>As police cruisers were arriving and officers began blocking traffic,

459
00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:26.880
<v Speaker 1>the station's news staff realized something serious was unfolding outside,

460
00:26:27.519 --> 00:26:32.640
<v Speaker 1>and they went live almost immediately. The robbery was being

461
00:26:32.680 --> 00:26:37.839
<v Speaker 1>broadcast in real time to the entire region. As broadcasters

462
00:26:37.880 --> 00:26:42.200
<v Speaker 1>were literally leaning out their window to report everything they saw.

463
00:26:43.480 --> 00:26:47.519
<v Speaker 1>They didn't have anyone reporting back to them, no third person,

464
00:26:47.920 --> 00:26:53.799
<v Speaker 1>no van running to site. They were simply there. They

465
00:26:53.839 --> 00:26:57.759
<v Speaker 1>wanted the story shirt, but they also intended to deliver caution.

466
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<v Speaker 1>Listeners were told to stay away from downtown to clear

467
00:27:01.799 --> 00:27:06.759
<v Speaker 1>the area and let police do their jobs. However, the

468
00:27:06.799 --> 00:27:10.160
<v Speaker 1>effect was the exact opposite, because we know humans, We

469
00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:13.759
<v Speaker 1>know how people react. In a town where nothing like

470
00:27:13.759 --> 00:27:18.559
<v Speaker 1>this ever happened, word of a bank robbery spread like wildfire,

471
00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:21.799
<v Speaker 1>and people left work, parents pulled their kids out of school,

472
00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:25.680
<v Speaker 1>drivers abandoned their cars blocks away and walked in. Also,

473
00:27:25.799 --> 00:27:28.519
<v Speaker 1>they can get a first hand look at what was

474
00:27:28.640 --> 00:27:34.920
<v Speaker 1>going on. Within minutes, then tens of minutes, hundreds of

475
00:27:35.039 --> 00:27:40.279
<v Speaker 1>people flooded main street. By later estimates, nearly a thousand

476
00:27:40.400 --> 00:27:45.039
<v Speaker 1>spectators were present. Roughly ten percent of Kenora's entire population

477
00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:49.400
<v Speaker 1>at that time were gathered within eyesight of the bank.

478
00:27:50.039 --> 00:27:53.279
<v Speaker 2>That seems like a complete disaster in the making.

479
00:27:53.000 --> 00:27:56.640
<v Speaker 1>Though, definitely, But this is that kind of herd mentality

480
00:27:56.680 --> 00:27:59.519
<v Speaker 1>I want to go see. Humans are like this for

481
00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:00.839
<v Speaker 1>whatever reason.

482
00:28:01.160 --> 00:28:03.720
<v Speaker 2>I guess. But do they not realize that there was

483
00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:07.240
<v Speaker 2>also like a danger for them to be there?

484
00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:11.599
<v Speaker 1>Well, they kind of are aware of that. There's some

485
00:28:11.759 --> 00:28:14.039
<v Speaker 1>interviews and stuff that I saw online where people are

486
00:28:14.079 --> 00:28:16.240
<v Speaker 1>poking their heads around a building, aware that they have

487
00:28:16.279 --> 00:28:19.240
<v Speaker 1>an armed robber, you know, robbing the bank in progress.

488
00:28:19.279 --> 00:28:21.119
<v Speaker 1>But they're like, well, what are the odds of my

489
00:28:21.319 --> 00:28:24.640
<v Speaker 1>head down the block getting shot? You know, it's such

490
00:28:24.640 --> 00:28:28.319
<v Speaker 1>a small target. What they didn't know, Like they're standing

491
00:28:28.319 --> 00:28:31.599
<v Speaker 1>shoulder to shoulder, Some are climbing on cars or storefronts,

492
00:28:31.640 --> 00:28:34.839
<v Speaker 1>whatever they need to do to get a view, and

493
00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:37.400
<v Speaker 1>many well they had no idea what they were really

494
00:28:37.519 --> 00:28:39.680
<v Speaker 1>watching is the problem. They knew there was a robbery,

495
00:28:39.680 --> 00:28:43.200
<v Speaker 1>they knew there was an armed robber, but the dynamite

496
00:28:44.160 --> 00:28:45.359
<v Speaker 1>only the police knew that.

497
00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:46.599
<v Speaker 2>They didn't know that part.

498
00:28:46.960 --> 00:28:51.759
<v Speaker 1>No one knew that part. Police officers tried to establish

499
00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:54.599
<v Speaker 1>a perimeter in hopes of keeping the scene safe, but

500
00:28:54.680 --> 00:28:57.960
<v Speaker 1>they were just simply overwhelmed with everything that was going on.

501
00:28:58.599 --> 00:29:01.839
<v Speaker 1>Canora wasn't equipped for out control in this scale, especially

502
00:29:01.880 --> 00:29:05.480
<v Speaker 1>not for a live hostage situation involving explosives, because that's

503
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:06.480
<v Speaker 1>exactly what this is.

504
00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:10.039
<v Speaker 2>Well, and they probably didn't even have enough police officers

505
00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:11.720
<v Speaker 2>exactly either.

506
00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:15.119
<v Speaker 1>Definitely, and there's no unified command structure. There's no trained

507
00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:18.519
<v Speaker 1>hostage negotiation team either. You say that they don't have

508
00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:21.599
<v Speaker 1>enough people on the force, you're right, But they're not

509
00:29:21.680 --> 00:29:24.039
<v Speaker 1>trained for this either, which is another massive part of it.

510
00:29:24.559 --> 00:29:26.759
<v Speaker 1>So they have nothing to fall back on. They have

511
00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:30.440
<v Speaker 1>no training for something like this, and it was well officers,

512
00:29:30.559 --> 00:29:33.480
<v Speaker 1>to be fair, they did the best they could. They improvised.

513
00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:37.240
<v Speaker 1>They reacted minute by minute as the situation evolved, and

514
00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:40.200
<v Speaker 1>they did pretty good, so credit to them where credit

515
00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:44.880
<v Speaker 1>is due. Now above the crowd, helicopters also circled as

516
00:29:44.960 --> 00:29:48.200
<v Speaker 1>radios crackled, while officers shouted instructions to the crowd and

517
00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:52.039
<v Speaker 1>spectators will honestly ignored them. They continue to do their best,

518
00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:55.799
<v Speaker 1>and as a standoff dragged on, one demand from inside

519
00:29:55.799 --> 00:29:59.920
<v Speaker 1>the bank became unavoidable. The robber wanted his getaway to

520
00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:03.480
<v Speaker 1>and vehicle. He didn't want to flee on foot. He

521
00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:08.359
<v Speaker 1>wanted a police controlled escape. A truck waiting outside is

522
00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:10.759
<v Speaker 1>what he wanted, and he wanted someone behind the wheel

523
00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:14.640
<v Speaker 1>to help him leave town. It was a very audacious

524
00:30:14.839 --> 00:30:19.200
<v Speaker 1>request because anyone sent inside that getaway vehicle would be

525
00:30:19.240 --> 00:30:22.880
<v Speaker 1>stepping into a confined space with an armed man who's

526
00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:28.759
<v Speaker 1>wearing explosives. A single mistake could detonate the bomb and

527
00:30:28.839 --> 00:30:34.720
<v Speaker 1>spell death. But that is when Constable Dawn Millard stepped forward.

528
00:30:35.839 --> 00:30:38.720
<v Speaker 1>Millard was a local officer, not part of any specialized

529
00:30:38.839 --> 00:30:42.200
<v Speaker 1>unit or anything, but that didn't stop him from volunteering

530
00:30:43.240 --> 00:30:46.039
<v Speaker 1>to reduce suspicion on who he may be or intentions

531
00:30:46.039 --> 00:30:48.720
<v Speaker 1>he might have. He changed out of his uniform and

532
00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:52.720
<v Speaker 1>into civilian clothes, and a city owned pickup truck was

533
00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:55.920
<v Speaker 1>positioned outside the bank, double parked on Main Street where

534
00:30:55.960 --> 00:31:04.359
<v Speaker 1>everyone could see it. Constable Millard then into the CIBC bank. Inside.

535
00:31:04.359 --> 00:31:08.000
<v Speaker 1>The scene was tense, but the robber was calm and

536
00:31:08.119 --> 00:31:11.920
<v Speaker 1>clearly in control of the situation. He's still had his weapons,

537
00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:15.920
<v Speaker 1>the bomb was still armed and strapped into the bag,

538
00:31:16.480 --> 00:31:19.680
<v Speaker 1>and the dead man's switch was described as a wired

539
00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:22.559
<v Speaker 1>clothes pin and at the time it was either clenched

540
00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:25.559
<v Speaker 1>between his teeth or kept immediately in his hand, depending

541
00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:27.440
<v Speaker 1>on the situation. He'd take it out and put it

542
00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:30.119
<v Speaker 1>back and forth, right ensuring that he was holding it

543
00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:30.960
<v Speaker 1>the entire time.

544
00:31:31.279 --> 00:31:34.680
<v Speaker 2>He does have control at some point to like make

545
00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:38.720
<v Speaker 2>it so that he can undo that button and the

546
00:31:38.759 --> 00:31:40.279
<v Speaker 2>thing not explode.

547
00:31:39.799 --> 00:31:42.119
<v Speaker 1>Though definitely he would have to like reach into his

548
00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:44.759
<v Speaker 1>bag and like flow an additional switch.

549
00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:46.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I see, because I was like, how does that

550
00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:47.559
<v Speaker 2>even work?

551
00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:50.519
<v Speaker 1>Okay, there would be a fail safe switch for sure,

552
00:31:50.920 --> 00:31:53.640
<v Speaker 1>So he has to maintain that dead man's switch, get

553
00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:57.640
<v Speaker 1>into the bomb, disarm it, and then he can let go. Okay,

554
00:31:57.759 --> 00:32:00.119
<v Speaker 1>But if anyone, I mean, if anyone tries to a

555
00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:00.680
<v Speaker 1>fuck with the bomb.

556
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:03.440
<v Speaker 2>All he has to do is like boom right, yeah,

557
00:32:03.640 --> 00:32:04.519
<v Speaker 2>frig So.

558
00:32:04.920 --> 00:32:07.880
<v Speaker 1>It takes a fraction of a second for him to

559
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:12.599
<v Speaker 1>make that bomb go boom h. So we have Constable

560
00:32:12.599 --> 00:32:16.759
<v Speaker 1>Millard stepping in into the bank and he's also there

561
00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:19.480
<v Speaker 1>to do exactly what he was told. The order that

562
00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:24.319
<v Speaker 1>he was given was simple, help carry the money. Duffel

563
00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:26.880
<v Speaker 1>bags had been filled with cash tens of thousands of

564
00:32:26.920 --> 00:32:30.720
<v Speaker 1>dollars by nineteen seventy three standards at They were there

565
00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:33.559
<v Speaker 1>now sitting here, and Millard's instructed to take the bags

566
00:32:33.599 --> 00:32:36.000
<v Speaker 1>and lead the way out of the bank towards the

567
00:32:36.039 --> 00:32:39.960
<v Speaker 1>truck for the robber. Now, at that moment, Millard became

568
00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:45.000
<v Speaker 1>a literal shield to a walking bomb, and he volunteered for.

569
00:32:44.920 --> 00:32:46.480
<v Speaker 2>This, no kidding, yeah he did.

570
00:32:47.240 --> 00:32:50.839
<v Speaker 1>Shortly before four pm, the front door of the CIBC

571
00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:56.319
<v Speaker 1>bank opened up. Constable Don Millard merged first, carrying a

572
00:32:56.400 --> 00:33:00.839
<v Speaker 1>very heavy Duffel bag filled with cash. He was dressed

573
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:05.680
<v Speaker 1>as a civilian, moving slowly following the instructions exactly as

574
00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:09.480
<v Speaker 1>they'd been given to him. Inside the bank, the sidewalk

575
00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:11.599
<v Speaker 1>in street in front of the building were packed with

576
00:33:11.759 --> 00:33:15.200
<v Speaker 1>curious onlookers, hundreds of them, in fact, many standing just

577
00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:20.279
<v Speaker 1>feet away from the unfolding scene. Moments later, the robber

578
00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:24.039
<v Speaker 1>stepped out behind him, carrying an additional bag of money,

579
00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:27.119
<v Speaker 1>along with the shoulder bag that held the explosive device

580
00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:31.400
<v Speaker 1>and the dead man's switch placed between his clenched teeth.

581
00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:35.640
<v Speaker 1>Millard walked ahead towards the waiting pickup truck parked on

582
00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:39.680
<v Speaker 1>the curb. The robber followed closely behind him, staying within

583
00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:43.799
<v Speaker 1>only a few steps. Hundreds of eyes fixed on the

584
00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:46.920
<v Speaker 1>two men crossing the short stretch of pavement as it

585
00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:49.920
<v Speaker 1>almost played out in real time slow motion in front

586
00:33:49.960 --> 00:33:54.079
<v Speaker 1>of them. All for nearly ninety minutes, the robbery had

587
00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:59.119
<v Speaker 1>been contained inside the bank. Now people saw it all firsthand.

588
00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:04.319
<v Speaker 1>Millard reached the truck and slowed, waiting for the robber.

589
00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:07.799
<v Speaker 1>The robber then stepped off the curb and into an

590
00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:12.119
<v Speaker 1>open space between them, and in that moment, beside the

591
00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:16.679
<v Speaker 1>truck on Main Street South, a single rifle shot rang

592
00:34:16.760 --> 00:34:21.519
<v Speaker 1>out through the air. It was a police sniper, Sergeant

593
00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:25.159
<v Speaker 1>Bob Lataine of the Canora Police. He fired from a

594
00:34:25.159 --> 00:34:28.840
<v Speaker 1>nearby position, and the bullet found its mark and struck

595
00:34:29.079 --> 00:34:32.639
<v Speaker 1>the robber and less than a second after the shot,

596
00:34:33.519 --> 00:34:36.320
<v Speaker 1>the explosive device detonated.

597
00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:39.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, was this supposed to be? Was that planned?

598
00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:41.559
<v Speaker 2>Was that supposed to happen?

599
00:34:41.760 --> 00:34:44.800
<v Speaker 1>It was planned. Yes, we'll get into the details of

600
00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:47.400
<v Speaker 1>that too, because there's a lot of questions around why

601
00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:50.039
<v Speaker 1>and was that the right call? All that sort of stuff.

602
00:34:50.280 --> 00:34:53.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, like shit is Millard? Okay? Like I have questions.

603
00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:57.719
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'll tell you, don't worry. When this went off,

604
00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:00.360
<v Speaker 1>the blast tore through the front of the street with

605
00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:06.079
<v Speaker 1>tremendous force. Witnesses described a deafening explosion followed by a

606
00:35:06.119 --> 00:35:09.599
<v Speaker 1>shockwave that shattered windows for nearly half a block in

607
00:35:09.719 --> 00:35:14.159
<v Speaker 1>both directions. Glass blew from storefronts and debris was thrown

608
00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:18.000
<v Speaker 1>high into the air. But most horrifically of all were

609
00:35:18.039 --> 00:35:21.719
<v Speaker 1>the pieces of the bank robber's body that were propelled

610
00:35:21.800 --> 00:35:27.039
<v Speaker 1>across the street into nearby buildings, some reaching second story heights.

611
00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:33.519
<v Speaker 1>Oh his flesh, bones, organs, blood, all of it rained

612
00:35:33.559 --> 00:35:37.199
<v Speaker 1>down onto the street as he was violently torn into

613
00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:39.159
<v Speaker 1>countless pieces.

614
00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:43.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh well, that's unfortunate. Holy crap.

615
00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:46.960
<v Speaker 1>The force of the explosion not only ripped the man apart,

616
00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:50.800
<v Speaker 1>but it also sent burning fragments of smoke rolling through

617
00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:54.119
<v Speaker 1>the downtown Core. Loose bills from the Duffel bags were

618
00:35:54.119 --> 00:35:58.519
<v Speaker 1>blown upwards and outwards, scattering money across the roadway and

619
00:35:58.679 --> 00:36:02.440
<v Speaker 1>sidewalks as they flowed in the turbulent air like confetti.

620
00:36:03.639 --> 00:36:08.119
<v Speaker 1>Constable Don Millard, who was only steps away from the explosion,

621
00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:11.400
<v Speaker 1>was knocked to the ground by the force of the blast.

622
00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:16.639
<v Speaker 1>Although injured, he was partially shielded by the heavy Duffel

623
00:36:16.679 --> 00:36:19.960
<v Speaker 1>bag of cash he had been carrying, but in the

624
00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:25.480
<v Speaker 1>immediate aftermath, Millard believed he had suffered catastrophic injuries to

625
00:36:25.599 --> 00:36:29.920
<v Speaker 1>his abdomen. He was seen kneeling on the pavement clutching

626
00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:34.239
<v Speaker 1>his stomach, holding what appeared to be his bowels spilling out,

627
00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:38.840
<v Speaker 1>and as officers rushed to him, they realized the tissue

628
00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:44.960
<v Speaker 1>and blood he was holding onto did not belong to him.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh, okay, that is really gross.

630
00:36:48.639 --> 00:36:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Millard was rushed to the hospital and treated for

631
00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:56.760
<v Speaker 1>his injuries, which included permanent hearing loss and damage, and

632
00:36:56.840 --> 00:37:01.079
<v Speaker 1>he thankfully survived and later left policing, but eventually became

633
00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:06.320
<v Speaker 1>a firefighter and Constable Millard badass of the day for

634
00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:09.599
<v Speaker 1>volunteering to go into that position and then even after

635
00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:12.920
<v Speaker 1>the fact, to still go into a position of firefighting

636
00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:16.880
<v Speaker 1>and helping people. That man is one hundred and ten

637
00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:19.199
<v Speaker 1>percent a fucking hero.

638
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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I don't know. I have mixed feelings about

639
00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:26.519
<v Speaker 2>this right now though, because I don't know, I'll just

640
00:37:26.599 --> 00:37:29.039
<v Speaker 2>keep listening to the story. Because he was really really

641
00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:31.920
<v Speaker 2>put at risk. But I mean, I guess maybe he

642
00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:33.079
<v Speaker 2>knew that fully.

643
00:37:33.320 --> 00:37:35.679
<v Speaker 1>He knew that he stepped into that role knowing what

644
00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:36.639
<v Speaker 1>he was stepping into.

645
00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:38.599
<v Speaker 2>Holy okay, well that's incredible.

646
00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:41.760
<v Speaker 1>They needed someone to be a getaway driver. They knew

647
00:37:41.800 --> 00:37:43.639
<v Speaker 1>the risk, and they didn't know how they were going

648
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:46.440
<v Speaker 1>to solve this, and he stepped up and I'll fucking

649
00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:46.760
<v Speaker 1>do it.

650
00:37:47.199 --> 00:37:51.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, gosh, that is like a point zero one

651
00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:55.280
<v Speaker 2>percent of people that would probably do that to that extent.

652
00:37:55.480 --> 00:37:57.880
<v Speaker 1>Yes, badass of the day for sure.

653
00:37:58.079 --> 00:37:59.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

654
00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:03.280
<v Speaker 1>Now the robber did not survive. On the other hand,

655
00:38:03.280 --> 00:38:07.199
<v Speaker 1>if it's not obvious enough already, he did not survive

656
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:11.519
<v Speaker 1>the explosion. It killed him instantaneously. One moment he was there,

657
00:38:11.920 --> 00:38:15.400
<v Speaker 1>and then the next he was there and there and

658
00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:16.119
<v Speaker 1>over there.

659
00:38:17.039 --> 00:38:18.599
<v Speaker 2>You don't say, I do say.

660
00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:20.920
<v Speaker 1>I thought you were going to laugh harder at that.

661
00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:25.320
<v Speaker 2>I wrote, And when I wrote drink so I held it,

662
00:38:25.360 --> 00:38:26.840
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, this is the worst time to

663
00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:30.960
<v Speaker 2>take it. If you didn't know he's good. Holy shit, really.

664
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but the being and then he was there, and

665
00:38:32.880 --> 00:38:35.119
<v Speaker 1>then the next he was there, there and there. I

666
00:38:35.159 --> 00:38:36.800
<v Speaker 1>was giggling to myself writing that.

667
00:38:36.920 --> 00:38:40.480
<v Speaker 2>And then he bare the visuals there, babe, okay, And

668
00:38:40.599 --> 00:38:44.199
<v Speaker 2>there was quite some visuals. Someone was literally holding his bowels.

669
00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Yes, well I don't know if it was bowels specifically

670
00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:50.679
<v Speaker 1>per se. Yeah, but he was holding chunks in what appeared.

671
00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:52.519
<v Speaker 2>To be, yeah, chunks of his body.

672
00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:55.440
<v Speaker 1>He was holding some a very visceral image. Let's say

673
00:38:55.480 --> 00:38:59.519
<v Speaker 1>that matter now. Panic swept through the crowd that had

674
00:38:59.599 --> 00:39:03.760
<v Speaker 1>gathered along Main Street. People screamed, they ran for cover,

675
00:39:03.880 --> 00:39:06.559
<v Speaker 1>and tried to make sense of what they had just witnessed.

676
00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:10.320
<v Speaker 1>Police officers moved quickly to push civilians back and secure

677
00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:13.760
<v Speaker 1>the scene, though control was difficult in all of the

678
00:39:13.880 --> 00:39:18.239
<v Speaker 1>chaos that followed, They again did their best, but despite

679
00:39:18.280 --> 00:39:21.840
<v Speaker 1>the devastation, authorities later confirmed that nearly all of the

680
00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:27.239
<v Speaker 1>more than one hundred thousand dollars total in cash was recovered.

681
00:39:27.639 --> 00:39:31.199
<v Speaker 1>Whoa police issued a public appeal asking anyone who had

682
00:39:31.199 --> 00:39:32.760
<v Speaker 1>picked up any of the money from the street to

683
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:34.480
<v Speaker 1>return it, and most did.

684
00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:35.159
<v Speaker 2>Damn.

685
00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:38.199
<v Speaker 1>There is footage online from this incident. As I mentioned,

686
00:39:38.239 --> 00:39:41.760
<v Speaker 1>it was broadcast live, and you can see crowds filling

687
00:39:41.800 --> 00:39:44.639
<v Speaker 1>the street in the aftermath, with people picking up handfuls

688
00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:48.760
<v Speaker 1>of cash in amongst the blood and tissue that covered

689
00:39:48.880 --> 00:39:49.400
<v Speaker 1>the street.

690
00:39:50.719 --> 00:39:54.360
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's actually interesting because you think that you would

691
00:39:54.400 --> 00:39:57.039
<v Speaker 2>just be so traumatized and so like, what the fuck

692
00:39:57.159 --> 00:40:00.320
<v Speaker 2>just happened? I literally watched someone explode and in front of

693
00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:02.440
<v Speaker 2>my eyes, oh shit, there's money, and then you just

694
00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:03.920
<v Speaker 2>start grabbing money, Like.

695
00:40:04.280 --> 00:40:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's quintessential depiction of human greed.

696
00:40:08.920 --> 00:40:14.159
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I guess that is. I think I feel as

697
00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:16.840
<v Speaker 2>a person sitting here thinking that I would just be

698
00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:20.920
<v Speaker 2>so stunned and shocked that I wouldn't be grabbing money.

699
00:40:20.920 --> 00:40:24.159
<v Speaker 2>But who knows? Who knows? Right, you're not in that situation.

700
00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:27.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Now, Once the street was secured and the injured

701
00:40:27.320 --> 00:40:30.440
<v Speaker 1>were taken away, investigators were left with an immediate and

702
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:34.599
<v Speaker 1>deeply frustrating problem because they had no idea who this

703
00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:37.920
<v Speaker 1>robber was. The man had worn a mask during the robbery,

704
00:40:38.119 --> 00:40:41.559
<v Speaker 1>and the explosion had destroyed almost all of his body.

705
00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:44.519
<v Speaker 1>There was no face to identify, no dental records to

706
00:40:44.559 --> 00:40:47.199
<v Speaker 1>go through, and no documents that gave a real name.

707
00:40:47.559 --> 00:40:51.480
<v Speaker 1>What police did recover came from what was left of him.

708
00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:56.599
<v Speaker 1>His pockets well, they found in there a brown leather wallet.

709
00:40:57.159 --> 00:41:00.679
<v Speaker 1>Inside was one hundred and seventy six dollars in cash Canadian,

710
00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:04.519
<v Speaker 1>two handcuff keys, and a receipt from the hotel he

711
00:41:04.599 --> 00:41:09.360
<v Speaker 1>stayed at, the Kenrica Hotel. That receipt became the first

712
00:41:09.360 --> 00:41:13.920
<v Speaker 1>solid lead. It placed this man in Kenora days earlier

713
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:17.280
<v Speaker 1>and gave investigators a starting point outside the bank itself.

714
00:41:18.119 --> 00:41:21.880
<v Speaker 1>His clothes were carefully documented. He wore a green and

715
00:41:21.960 --> 00:41:26.480
<v Speaker 1>brown checkered fedora, a brown and white checkered jacket, brown gloves,

716
00:41:26.519 --> 00:41:32.000
<v Speaker 1>and size ten Chippewa bush boots with thick Insuls witnesses

717
00:41:32.039 --> 00:41:34.599
<v Speaker 1>who had seen him in town before the robbery well,

718
00:41:34.639 --> 00:41:38.400
<v Speaker 1>they immediately recognized the description. Several confirmed it matched the

719
00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:41.119
<v Speaker 1>quiet man they noticed downtown In the days leading up

720
00:41:41.159 --> 00:41:46.360
<v Speaker 1>to May tenth. Police also began collecting statements from bank staffs, officers,

721
00:41:46.599 --> 00:41:49.119
<v Speaker 1>radio reporters and civilians, all who had beat in the

722
00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:52.679
<v Speaker 1>crowd and watching this unfold. Now. Despite the violence of

723
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:57.639
<v Speaker 1>the explosion, investigators were able to recover fingerprints from pieces

724
00:41:57.679 --> 00:42:02.599
<v Speaker 1>of what remained of the robber's hand. Those prints were

725
00:42:02.679 --> 00:42:07.360
<v Speaker 1>later circulated widely through Canadian and international law enforcement databases,

726
00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:12.159
<v Speaker 1>but unfortunately, no matches ever came back. So, with no

727
00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:16.199
<v Speaker 1>identification from the body and no known missing person immediately

728
00:42:16.199 --> 00:42:20.239
<v Speaker 1>matching the description either, attention shifted away from the bank

729
00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:23.239
<v Speaker 1>and towards the hotel that was named on that receipt.

730
00:42:23.880 --> 00:42:26.039
<v Speaker 1>If the man had stayed in Kenoa long enough to

731
00:42:26.079 --> 00:42:29.960
<v Speaker 1>plan this robbery, police believed he must have left something behind,

732
00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:34.159
<v Speaker 1>so armed with the receipts that was recovered, police went

733
00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:37.280
<v Speaker 1>straight to the front desk of that hotel, and staff

734
00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:41.119
<v Speaker 1>recognized the name Paul Higgins, and that he had stayed

735
00:42:41.159 --> 00:42:43.360
<v Speaker 1>there twice in the weeks leading up to the robbery,

736
00:42:43.519 --> 00:42:45.960
<v Speaker 1>first in April and then again in May fifth, with

737
00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:49.840
<v Speaker 1>that week in between. He'd been quiet, paid in advance

738
00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:52.400
<v Speaker 1>and drawed little attention beyond the fact that he kept

739
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:57.400
<v Speaker 1>mostly to himself. Now, his room was still registered in

740
00:42:57.519 --> 00:43:02.280
<v Speaker 1>this name. When officers entered it, they treated the space

741
00:43:02.400 --> 00:43:06.239
<v Speaker 1>as potentially dangerous, given that what had just happened downtown.

742
00:43:06.280 --> 00:43:09.679
<v Speaker 1>There was no telling what Higgins had left behind and

743
00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:11.280
<v Speaker 1>whether it was safe or not. In that room.

744
00:43:11.719 --> 00:43:12.480
<v Speaker 2>That makes sense.

745
00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:16.639
<v Speaker 1>Actually now, inside the room there were personal effects such

746
00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:20.440
<v Speaker 1>as clothing, food items, radios, reading material, and evidence that

747
00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:25.039
<v Speaker 1>he had spent long periods alone. Inside. Investigators also found

748
00:43:25.039 --> 00:43:28.199
<v Speaker 1>cigar remnants and packaging of old port Dutch prints and

749
00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:32.840
<v Speaker 1>turo savannas. But the most important item wasn't the room itself.

750
00:43:33.239 --> 00:43:36.480
<v Speaker 1>It was the steamer trunk that he'd left behind, the

751
00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:39.559
<v Speaker 1>yellow one that had his name printed on it. He'd

752
00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:44.000
<v Speaker 1>left this yere during that unexplained absence in late April.

753
00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:46.840
<v Speaker 1>The trunk had been stored by hotel staff at his request,

754
00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:49.800
<v Speaker 1>clearly marked with his name, and after the robbery, police

755
00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:53.760
<v Speaker 1>located it and immediately suspected that it could be rigged

756
00:43:53.840 --> 00:43:58.360
<v Speaker 1>with explosives, so rather than risk opening it, authorities called

757
00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:02.679
<v Speaker 1>the Armed Forces demo unit. The trunk was safely removed

758
00:44:02.679 --> 00:44:07.679
<v Speaker 1>from the hotel, transported to a secure location, and deliberately

759
00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:09.679
<v Speaker 1>destroyed with explosives.

760
00:44:10.719 --> 00:44:13.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh so they didn't even take the chance of opening this.

761
00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:19.880
<v Speaker 1>They did not. Whatever was inside, be it documents, tools, correspondence,

762
00:44:20.039 --> 00:44:24.440
<v Speaker 1>evidence clues to this real identity of this Paul Higgins,

763
00:44:24.599 --> 00:44:28.280
<v Speaker 1>while it was now completely destroyed and lost.

764
00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:31.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh I don't like that because I want to know

765
00:44:31.039 --> 00:44:32.000
<v Speaker 2>what the hell was in there.

766
00:44:32.119 --> 00:44:34.840
<v Speaker 1>That is a very large point of contention for this

767
00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:38.239
<v Speaker 1>story is why is destroying that case? And like, honestly,

768
00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:41.800
<v Speaker 1>at the time, to them, the decision made sense. Safety

769
00:44:41.880 --> 00:44:44.920
<v Speaker 1>came first, especially after a bomb had just killed a

770
00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:48.000
<v Speaker 1>man injured an officer in the middle of town too, right,

771
00:44:48.639 --> 00:44:52.199
<v Speaker 1>But in the years that followed that destruction of a trunk,

772
00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:53.760
<v Speaker 1>while it took on a different weight.

773
00:44:54.159 --> 00:44:56.760
<v Speaker 2>Well, I just okay, I just have to comment about something,

774
00:44:56.760 --> 00:45:00.880
<v Speaker 2>because that's so weird that they're like being so safe

775
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:04.639
<v Speaker 2>with this trunk when I feel like almost prior to

776
00:45:05.679 --> 00:45:08.760
<v Speaker 2>it didn't seem like what was going down was super safe.

777
00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:12.559
<v Speaker 2>Because I'm shocked that no one else also exploded or

778
00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:16.119
<v Speaker 2>got seriously injured in that little Shenanigan's.

779
00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, but how is that the police's fault? How did

780
00:45:18.039 --> 00:45:22.679
<v Speaker 1>they not handle it appropriately to consider people's safety. They

781
00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:26.639
<v Speaker 1>were overwhelmed by numbers in the public. You had a

782
00:45:26.639 --> 00:45:30.480
<v Speaker 1>AM station there that was broadcasting it against the police's

783
00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:31.480
<v Speaker 1>will or wishes.

784
00:45:32.400 --> 00:45:34.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh, they were really put in a position that wasn't

785
00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:37.039
<v Speaker 2>great for them. Yes, And I guess I'm kind of

786
00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:40.000
<v Speaker 2>envisioning that people were closer and stuff than maybe they

787
00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:43.760
<v Speaker 2>actually were, because this person just exploded. He exploded and

788
00:45:43.800 --> 00:45:47.000
<v Speaker 2>no one else around got really injured. So I am

789
00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:50.239
<v Speaker 2>probably envisioning that things were a little bit more compact

790
00:45:50.280 --> 00:45:50.760
<v Speaker 2>than they were.

791
00:45:51.199 --> 00:45:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, people weren't like right next to him, people I

792
00:45:54.039 --> 00:45:56.280
<v Speaker 1>think like half a block, Like you could probably throw

793
00:45:56.280 --> 00:45:59.239
<v Speaker 1>a rock and hit the robber from where people were standing.

794
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:02.320
<v Speaker 1>Some people were standing, not all of them were like that,

795
00:46:02.800 --> 00:46:04.239
<v Speaker 1>But you.

796
00:46:04.239 --> 00:46:06.840
<v Speaker 2>Know, I don't know, I just yeah, I guess for

797
00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:12.559
<v Speaker 2>that explosion explosive to go off downtown seems like scary.

798
00:46:12.599 --> 00:46:16.679
<v Speaker 2>And but then here they're not opening this trunk for safety,

799
00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:19.320
<v Speaker 2>like I don't know, I mean, my head's just maybe

800
00:46:19.360 --> 00:46:20.119
<v Speaker 2>at a weird place.

801
00:46:20.199 --> 00:46:22.400
<v Speaker 1>But well, the police are doing everything they could to

802
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:26.199
<v Speaker 1>keep each scenario as safe as possible. That's what you

803
00:46:26.239 --> 00:46:29.360
<v Speaker 1>have to consider. You have someone who brought a live

804
00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:33.920
<v Speaker 1>explosive downtown, You have people all around you don't know

805
00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:37.360
<v Speaker 1>when this explosive could potentially go off, and you are

806
00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:39.559
<v Speaker 1>forced to deal with it in the middle of this

807
00:46:39.639 --> 00:46:42.159
<v Speaker 1>crowd of people downtown, on the most busiest street, in

808
00:46:42.199 --> 00:46:45.480
<v Speaker 1>front of a bank, with civilians and officers nearby. You

809
00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:49.440
<v Speaker 1>are forced to deal with that situation. If police could

810
00:46:49.440 --> 00:46:52.199
<v Speaker 1>simply safely remove him and take him away like they

811
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:54.559
<v Speaker 1>did the trunk. I'm sure they would have, but they couldn't.

812
00:46:55.800 --> 00:46:59.000
<v Speaker 2>I think nowadays though, that there's means of you know,

813
00:46:59.039 --> 00:47:01.000
<v Speaker 2>you maybe use like a bot or something and you

814
00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:02.079
<v Speaker 2>would open that trunk.

815
00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:06.119
<v Speaker 1>Definitely, there's different means today. Sure, this is nineteen seventy three,

816
00:47:06.440 --> 00:47:10.119
<v Speaker 1>certainly a different era now. By the time the hotel

817
00:47:10.199 --> 00:47:12.800
<v Speaker 1>room was cleared and the trunk was eliminated, police had

818
00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:16.960
<v Speaker 1>learned plenty about what Paul Higgins did in Canora, but

819
00:47:17.079 --> 00:47:20.639
<v Speaker 1>almost nothing about who he actually was. The name he

820
00:47:20.719 --> 00:47:24.159
<v Speaker 1>used led nowhere, the Toronto address he provided didn't exist,

821
00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:28.159
<v Speaker 1>and within weeks of the explosion, attention turned from the

822
00:47:28.199 --> 00:47:31.960
<v Speaker 1>crime itself to how it had been handled. In June

823
00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:36.119
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy three, a coroner's inquest was convened in Canora

824
00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:39.719
<v Speaker 1>to examine two central issues, the death of the robber

825
00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:43.039
<v Speaker 1>and the actions of police during that standoff. And this

826
00:47:43.079 --> 00:47:44.960
<v Speaker 1>is where it comes to that question of how police

827
00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:48.320
<v Speaker 1>handle the situation and the safety of it. The focus

828
00:47:48.440 --> 00:47:51.719
<v Speaker 1>quickly narrowed to the moment that ended everything, the decision

829
00:47:51.760 --> 00:47:55.800
<v Speaker 1>by police marksman to fire as the robber exited the bank,

830
00:47:55.880 --> 00:47:59.639
<v Speaker 1>to shoot him. Testimony laid out a picture of a

831
00:47:59.719 --> 00:48:04.480
<v Speaker 1>very chaotic scene. There was no hostage negotiation unit, no

832
00:48:04.679 --> 00:48:09.519
<v Speaker 1>established command structure. Officers were operating under intense pressure, surrounded

833
00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:12.559
<v Speaker 1>by a crowd that had grown into hundreds, possibly even

834
00:48:12.639 --> 00:48:16.039
<v Speaker 1>more than a thousand. The presence of explosives and a

835
00:48:16.159 --> 00:48:20.400
<v Speaker 1>dead man's switch specifically raised the stakes far beyond a

836
00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:25.079
<v Speaker 1>very typical robbery. Constable Don Millard, who had volunteered to

837
00:48:25.159 --> 00:48:28.639
<v Speaker 1>act as the getaway driver, testified about his role inside

838
00:48:28.679 --> 00:48:32.360
<v Speaker 1>the bank and his belief that the situation was deteriorating.

839
00:48:33.199 --> 00:48:36.719
<v Speaker 1>He described confusion, a lack of clear direction, and a

840
00:48:36.880 --> 00:48:39.760
<v Speaker 1>very real possibility that he would be killed if the

841
00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:44.400
<v Speaker 1>robber reached that truck and attempted to escape. The officer

842
00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:48.719
<v Speaker 1>who fired the shot, Sergeant Bob Lataine, did not deny

843
00:48:48.880 --> 00:48:53.320
<v Speaker 1>pulling the trigger. His reasoning for his actions were very direct.

844
00:48:54.199 --> 00:48:59.599
<v Speaker 1>He believed that Millard's life and possibly many others, were

845
00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:03.360
<v Speaker 1>in very immediate danger if the robber made it to

846
00:49:03.360 --> 00:49:07.639
<v Speaker 1>the vehicle. Latage believed the bomb could be detonated deliberately

847
00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:13.079
<v Speaker 1>or even accidentally in a crowded area, instead killing far more,

848
00:49:13.519 --> 00:49:19.159
<v Speaker 1>and the jury ultimately ultimately agreed when he shot, was

849
00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:22.440
<v Speaker 1>the safest time to take him out.

850
00:49:22.559 --> 00:49:27.199
<v Speaker 2>Okay, it was the most controlled option that they had

851
00:49:27.239 --> 00:49:27.920
<v Speaker 2>at that moment.

852
00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:31.119
<v Speaker 1>Exactly. Okay, give it a couple seconds more. He's going

853
00:49:31.159 --> 00:49:34.840
<v Speaker 1>to be right next to a civilian or an officer.

854
00:49:34.960 --> 00:49:36.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, Millard is going to be right next to

855
00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:39.960
<v Speaker 1>him in that vehicle. As that vehicle leaves, who's to

856
00:49:40.039 --> 00:49:42.079
<v Speaker 1>say it's not going to drive by people? And then

857
00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:45.039
<v Speaker 1>he could purposely let it go, Say he gets out

858
00:49:45.079 --> 00:49:47.800
<v Speaker 1>of town, then what we don't know where he's going

859
00:49:47.880 --> 00:49:50.599
<v Speaker 1>to go and what's going to happen with Millard. This

860
00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:57.239
<v Speaker 1>is the only moment this guy was somewhat alone. Millard

861
00:49:57.320 --> 00:49:59.880
<v Speaker 1>was steps away from him. Any second longer and he

862
00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:02.599
<v Speaker 1>have been right beside him and there would have been

863
00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:03.599
<v Speaker 1>another casualty.

864
00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:08.079
<v Speaker 2>So did Millard know that they were going to shoot that.

865
00:50:08.199 --> 00:50:09.880
<v Speaker 2>He didn't know that they were going to shoot him.

866
00:50:09.920 --> 00:50:11.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they knew that.

867
00:50:11.119 --> 00:50:14.480
<v Speaker 2>He knew no, Okay, no, So he really didn't know

868
00:50:14.719 --> 00:50:17.440
<v Speaker 2>what was about to go down, like if he was

869
00:50:17.480 --> 00:50:19.159
<v Speaker 2>going to be driving off with this guy or not.

870
00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:22.400
<v Speaker 1>And all he knew was that they needed to do

871
00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:25.079
<v Speaker 1>something before getting in that vehicle. That's all all of

872
00:50:25.119 --> 00:50:28.079
<v Speaker 1>them knew is that he could not get to that vehicle.

873
00:50:28.760 --> 00:50:30.079
<v Speaker 2>Jeez okay.

874
00:50:31.119 --> 00:50:34.679
<v Speaker 1>Now, the coroner's jury ruled that Sergeant Latagne was justified

875
00:50:34.719 --> 00:50:38.480
<v Speaker 1>in firing his weapon, and formally they commended the police

876
00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:45.360
<v Speaker 1>for their actions under extraordinary circumstances. The findings effectively closed

877
00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:49.239
<v Speaker 1>any legal debate about the shooting itself, but the inquest

878
00:50:49.639 --> 00:50:55.760
<v Speaker 1>did not bring closure. With the inquest, one recommendation stood out.

879
00:50:56.239 --> 00:50:59.800
<v Speaker 1>The jury urged that the investigation into the robbers identity

880
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:03.760
<v Speaker 1>were to continue. His death had resolved the immediate threat, yes,

881
00:51:03.800 --> 00:51:06.920
<v Speaker 1>but it had not answered the most basic question of all,

882
00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:11.039
<v Speaker 1>who was he? And why did he choose Canora of

883
00:51:11.079 --> 00:51:15.840
<v Speaker 1>all places. So after the inquest ended, the case quietly

884
00:51:15.880 --> 00:51:19.039
<v Speaker 1>slipped out of the headlines, but it never truly left Canora.

885
00:51:19.960 --> 00:51:23.079
<v Speaker 1>What remained of the robber's body was gathered, examined as

886
00:51:23.119 --> 00:51:26.800
<v Speaker 1>thoroughly as possible, and then it was buried in Canora's cemetery.

887
00:51:27.360 --> 00:51:29.639
<v Speaker 1>There was no name to put on a headstone, not

888
00:51:29.719 --> 00:51:33.159
<v Speaker 1>even a false one. No family came forward to claim him,

889
00:51:33.480 --> 00:51:35.400
<v Speaker 1>and in the end he was simply laid to rest

890
00:51:35.440 --> 00:51:39.239
<v Speaker 1>in an unmarked grave, recorded only in cemetery maps and

891
00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:44.760
<v Speaker 1>official paperwork. In the months and years that followed, people talked,

892
00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:49.199
<v Speaker 1>witnesses replayed what they had seen. Radio staff remembered broadcasting

893
00:51:49.280 --> 00:51:52.400
<v Speaker 1>live as chaos unfolded right outside their window in the

894
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:56.039
<v Speaker 1>streets below. Shop workers recalled the man in the fedora,

895
00:51:56.039 --> 00:51:59.239
<v Speaker 1>who didn't talk much, who stared instead of browsing, who

896
00:51:59.320 --> 00:52:03.280
<v Speaker 1>didn't it seemed quite like anyone else. High school students

897
00:52:03.280 --> 00:52:05.960
<v Speaker 1>who had skipped class to watch the standoff grew older,

898
00:52:06.280 --> 00:52:09.360
<v Speaker 1>still able to describe the moment that blast shook the streets.

899
00:52:10.159 --> 00:52:13.519
<v Speaker 1>Newspaper clippings were saved, photos were passed around, and the

900
00:52:13.559 --> 00:52:16.639
<v Speaker 1>story became part of the town's shared memory, retold whenever

901
00:52:16.679 --> 00:52:21.599
<v Speaker 1>someone asked about that bank robbery. The mystery, no matter

902
00:52:21.639 --> 00:52:25.199
<v Speaker 1>the gossip or time that passed, only grew. No missing

903
00:52:25.239 --> 00:52:28.280
<v Speaker 1>person report ever lined up cleanly with the man's description.

904
00:52:28.920 --> 00:52:33.559
<v Speaker 1>No family arrived looking for any answers, No letters surfaced

905
00:52:33.599 --> 00:52:37.760
<v Speaker 1>explaining his motives. The name Paul Higgins simply remained what

906
00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:42.760
<v Speaker 1>it had always been, and alias with no past. As

907
00:52:42.840 --> 00:52:46.079
<v Speaker 1>decades passed and the case shifted from an active investigation

908
00:52:46.199 --> 00:52:49.760
<v Speaker 1>to something closer to folklore, Canora knew exactly what had

909
00:52:49.800 --> 00:52:53.039
<v Speaker 1>happened on May tenth, nineteen seventy three, but not who

910
00:52:53.159 --> 00:52:56.199
<v Speaker 1>had done it. Police did their best to try and

911
00:52:56.239 --> 00:52:59.119
<v Speaker 1>find the identity and continue to pursue the few avenues

912
00:52:59.119 --> 00:53:01.679
<v Speaker 1>that were still open to them. One of the first

913
00:53:02.280 --> 00:53:07.360
<v Speaker 1>was fingerprints. Despite the damage caused by the explosion, investigators

914
00:53:07.360 --> 00:53:10.320
<v Speaker 1>had managed to recover usable prints from what remained of

915
00:53:10.360 --> 00:53:14.400
<v Speaker 1>the robbers' hands. Those prints were circulated through Canadian law

916
00:53:14.480 --> 00:53:18.039
<v Speaker 1>enforcement databases and shared internationally as well. Now at the

917
00:53:18.119 --> 00:53:21.199
<v Speaker 1>time this was considered a very strong step forward, and

918
00:53:21.199 --> 00:53:24.159
<v Speaker 1>don't get me wrong, it is because if that man

919
00:53:24.199 --> 00:53:27.880
<v Speaker 1>had ever been arrested, employed in certain industries or cross

920
00:53:27.960 --> 00:53:31.039
<v Speaker 1>borders under his real name, there was a chance his

921
00:53:31.239 --> 00:53:37.920
<v Speaker 1>name would surface. However, it never did. As technology improved,

922
00:53:38.159 --> 00:53:40.840
<v Speaker 1>the prints were revisited more than once. Each time, the

923
00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:44.480
<v Speaker 1>result was the same, there's no match found, and decades

924
00:53:44.519 --> 00:53:48.039
<v Speaker 1>later attention while it did turn to one possible suspect.

925
00:53:48.760 --> 00:53:51.920
<v Speaker 1>In the early two thousands, investigators revisited the case with

926
00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:56.320
<v Speaker 1>fresh new eyes and new tools. A missing man from

927
00:53:56.360 --> 00:54:00.119
<v Speaker 1>British Columbia appeared to fit several elements of this pro

928
00:54:00.920 --> 00:54:03.800
<v Speaker 1>It was the right age, had reportedly worn very similar

929
00:54:03.840 --> 00:54:07.559
<v Speaker 1>clothing and abandoned his vehicle in Winnipeg not long before

930
00:54:07.559 --> 00:54:11.440
<v Speaker 1>the robbery, which could place him geographically close during the

931
00:54:11.519 --> 00:54:14.760
<v Speaker 1>critical window. For a brief moment, it seemed like the

932
00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:18.599
<v Speaker 1>mystery might have a crack, but police located the man's

933
00:54:18.599 --> 00:54:22.400
<v Speaker 1>brother and obtained a DNA sample for comparison against biological

934
00:54:22.440 --> 00:54:26.800
<v Speaker 1>matter preserved from the crime scene. The test came back negative,

935
00:54:27.119 --> 00:54:29.760
<v Speaker 1>and to top it off, the missing man was later

936
00:54:29.840 --> 00:54:33.719
<v Speaker 1>confirmed to be alive and living in France, eliminating him

937
00:54:34.079 --> 00:54:38.800
<v Speaker 1>completely as a suspect. The dead end was a turning point.

938
00:54:39.599 --> 00:54:43.000
<v Speaker 1>It reinforced just how fragile the remaining evidence had become

939
00:54:43.039 --> 00:54:46.239
<v Speaker 1>over the years. Physical items from the case that had

940
00:54:46.280 --> 00:54:50.079
<v Speaker 1>been lost, destroyed, or archived in ways that made re

941
00:54:50.159 --> 00:54:55.440
<v Speaker 1>examination extremely difficult. Some materials had been digitized, others could

942
00:54:55.480 --> 00:54:58.320
<v Speaker 1>no longer be located at all due to changes in

943
00:54:58.360 --> 00:55:02.199
<v Speaker 1>the police department over the years. What remained was a

944
00:55:02.280 --> 00:55:06.000
<v Speaker 1>very thin but persistent thread, the belief that the robber

945
00:55:06.079 --> 00:55:08.920
<v Speaker 1>had not come to Kenora, and possibly not even from

946
00:55:08.960 --> 00:55:14.239
<v Speaker 1>Canada at all. Witnesses continued to describe that faint foreign accent,

947
00:55:14.639 --> 00:55:18.840
<v Speaker 1>sometimes thought to be German or European, though no consensus

948
00:55:18.920 --> 00:55:22.840
<v Speaker 1>ever emerged. By the early two thousands, the case had

949
00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:27.840
<v Speaker 1>reached an uncomfortable status. It wasn't officially closed, but it

950
00:55:27.880 --> 00:55:31.840
<v Speaker 1>wasn't moving forward either, simply too old to feel urgent,

951
00:55:32.519 --> 00:55:37.159
<v Speaker 1>but too unresolved to be forgotten. Now by the late

952
00:55:37.199 --> 00:55:41.800
<v Speaker 1>twenty tens, genetic genealogy had begun rewriting the rules of

953
00:55:41.840 --> 00:55:46.559
<v Speaker 1>cold cases. Investigators no longer needed a direct DNA match

954
00:55:46.599 --> 00:55:51.320
<v Speaker 1>to a known suspect. Instead, you know, distant relatives, sometimes

955
00:55:51.639 --> 00:55:55.599
<v Speaker 1>separated by generations, could be used to build a family

956
00:55:55.639 --> 00:56:00.039
<v Speaker 1>tree backwards, slowly narrowing down an unknown person to do

957
00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:04.880
<v Speaker 1>a name. Cases far older than Canoras had been solved

958
00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:07.880
<v Speaker 1>this way, so the obvious question followed, why could it

959
00:56:07.960 --> 00:56:11.639
<v Speaker 1>not be used here to solve it? Public pressure grew,

960
00:56:11.800 --> 00:56:14.800
<v Speaker 1>especially after renewed media attention brought the case back into

961
00:56:14.800 --> 00:56:19.119
<v Speaker 1>the spotlight around its fiftieth anniversary. Journalists and former witnesses

962
00:56:19.159 --> 00:56:23.519
<v Speaker 1>began asking what evidence still existed and whether anything usable remained.

963
00:56:24.280 --> 00:56:27.320
<v Speaker 1>But even if it was lost to time, one possibility

964
00:56:27.360 --> 00:56:33.920
<v Speaker 1>loomed larger than all others, the unmarked grave. If biological

965
00:56:33.960 --> 00:56:37.639
<v Speaker 1>material could be recovered from the remains, modern forensic techniques

966
00:56:37.760 --> 00:56:42.000
<v Speaker 1>might succeed where earlier efforts had failed. Teeth, bone or

967
00:56:42.039 --> 00:56:46.400
<v Speaker 1>even any other DNA trace could potentially be enough, but

968
00:56:46.440 --> 00:56:50.199
<v Speaker 1>the answer turned out to be more complicated. During the

969
00:56:50.320 --> 00:56:54.559
<v Speaker 1>renewed review, it emerged that a DNA sample may already

970
00:56:54.719 --> 00:56:59.480
<v Speaker 1>exist preserved within Ontario's forensic systems. According to officials, they

971
00:56:59.519 --> 00:57:04.079
<v Speaker 1>actually had enough material preserved on file for comparison, meaning

972
00:57:04.400 --> 00:57:08.840
<v Speaker 1>disinterminent or the remains might not even be necessary at all. However,

973
00:57:09.559 --> 00:57:14.079
<v Speaker 1>what wasn't clear and remains unresolved, is whether that sample

974
00:57:14.159 --> 00:57:19.039
<v Speaker 1>has been or will be run through modern genealogical databases.

975
00:57:20.360 --> 00:57:24.360
<v Speaker 1>Authorities have been very cautious, resources are finite, and law

976
00:57:24.440 --> 00:57:29.199
<v Speaker 1>enforcement have publicly stated that priority is given to cases

977
00:57:29.440 --> 00:57:35.000
<v Speaker 1>with living victims or surviving families seeking answers. In this case,

978
00:57:35.760 --> 00:57:39.079
<v Speaker 1>not a single relative or potential relative has come forward,

979
00:57:39.559 --> 00:57:42.000
<v Speaker 1>No one has claimed the body, no one has reported

980
00:57:42.039 --> 00:57:45.719
<v Speaker 1>a disappearance that needs a clean fitting to say maybe

981
00:57:45.719 --> 00:57:49.039
<v Speaker 1>this is my relative or long lost brother or who knows,

982
00:57:50.119 --> 00:57:52.639
<v Speaker 1>And as a result, the case is sitting in a

983
00:57:52.719 --> 00:57:58.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of limbo. Technically open, potentially even scientifically solvable at

984
00:57:58.039 --> 00:58:02.360
<v Speaker 1>this point, but dependent on decisions to be made that

985
00:58:02.440 --> 00:58:04.400
<v Speaker 1>go beyond evidence alone.

986
00:58:04.880 --> 00:58:07.679
<v Speaker 2>That's wild. So it's just very much so sitting on

987
00:58:07.719 --> 00:58:11.079
<v Speaker 2>the back burner. It is because there by the sounds

988
00:58:11.079 --> 00:58:13.239
<v Speaker 2>of it will always be another case that's kind of

989
00:58:13.239 --> 00:58:14.960
<v Speaker 2>more important most likely.

990
00:58:15.400 --> 00:58:17.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean, what is clear is the mystery is no

991
00:58:17.199 --> 00:58:22.639
<v Speaker 1>longer unsolvable because like technology or time, right, the barriers

992
00:58:22.639 --> 00:58:26.119
<v Speaker 1>are now like very much so institutional and procedural rather

993
00:58:26.159 --> 00:58:29.119
<v Speaker 1>than scientific. So if the decision were made to pursue

994
00:58:29.119 --> 00:58:33.039
<v Speaker 1>it fully, the tools exist to put a name potentially

995
00:58:33.559 --> 00:58:35.800
<v Speaker 1>to the man who's buried in the cemetery, in this

996
00:58:35.920 --> 00:58:38.840
<v Speaker 1>unmarked grave. It's just a matter of if it's going

997
00:58:38.880 --> 00:58:43.360
<v Speaker 1>to happen. So whether that decision will ever come, well,

998
00:58:43.400 --> 00:58:46.840
<v Speaker 1>it remains uncertain, though in my opinion, I do believe

999
00:58:46.840 --> 00:58:49.199
<v Speaker 1>we will see it happen. It's just a matter of time.

1000
00:58:49.639 --> 00:58:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Whether the DNA actually leads anywhere or not is another

1001
00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:53.760
<v Speaker 1>part of the story.

1002
00:58:54.320 --> 00:58:57.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, imagine finding out this is like your long lost

1003
00:58:57.280 --> 00:58:59.440
<v Speaker 2>great uncle or some shit, eh, right.

1004
00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:02.960
<v Speaker 1>And so because of this possibility, for the first time

1005
00:59:03.039 --> 00:59:07.039
<v Speaker 1>since nineteen seventy three, the question on everyone's mind isn't

1006
00:59:07.199 --> 00:59:11.079
<v Speaker 1>can this be solved? It's instead will it be solved?

1007
00:59:12.079 --> 00:59:15.119
<v Speaker 1>The facts of this case are not in dispute. In

1008
00:59:15.159 --> 00:59:17.760
<v Speaker 1>the spring of nineteen seventy three, a man arrived in

1009
00:59:17.880 --> 00:59:21.119
<v Speaker 1>Canora using the name Paul Higgins. He stayed at a

1010
00:59:21.119 --> 00:59:24.199
<v Speaker 1>downtown hotel, moved quietly through the city, and by the

1011
00:59:24.280 --> 00:59:27.159
<v Speaker 1>afternoon of May tenth, he walked into the Canadian Imperial

1012
00:59:27.199 --> 00:59:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Bank of Commerce on Main Street South, took money, attempted

1013
00:59:30.920 --> 00:59:33.719
<v Speaker 1>to leave, but before he could escape, was shot and

1014
00:59:33.760 --> 00:59:38.960
<v Speaker 1>the bomb detonated, killing him. Everything after that is what

1015
00:59:39.119 --> 00:59:42.840
<v Speaker 1>makes this case last and endure because the man's identity

1016
00:59:42.840 --> 00:59:45.440
<v Speaker 1>has never been confirmed. The name he used was false,

1017
00:59:45.480 --> 00:59:48.440
<v Speaker 1>the address he gave didn't exist. The steamer trunk that

1018
00:59:48.719 --> 00:59:53.280
<v Speaker 1>may have held answers was destroyed for safety reasons. His

1019
00:59:53.360 --> 00:59:56.199
<v Speaker 1>DNA still exists and could hold the key to solving

1020
00:59:56.239 --> 01:00:00.920
<v Speaker 1>who he was, but its use remains undecided. The result

1021
01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:04.079
<v Speaker 1>is a very rare kind of true crime story, one

1022
01:00:04.119 --> 01:00:07.920
<v Speaker 1>where the crime itself is fully known, yet the person

1023
01:00:07.960 --> 01:00:10.800
<v Speaker 1>at the center of it all remains a blank space

1024
01:00:10.920 --> 01:00:15.760
<v Speaker 1>in history. The town of Canora remembers the noise, the smoke,

1025
01:00:15.960 --> 01:00:18.920
<v Speaker 1>the money, and the blood raining from the sky. It

1026
01:00:19.000 --> 01:00:21.920
<v Speaker 1>remembers where people were standing and what they saw on

1027
01:00:22.039 --> 01:00:25.760
<v Speaker 1>how that blast felt. What it doesn't remember, because it

1028
01:00:25.800 --> 01:00:29.000
<v Speaker 1>never will know, is who the man really was, where

1029
01:00:29.000 --> 01:00:31.800
<v Speaker 1>he came from, or what drove him to do what

1030
01:00:31.880 --> 01:00:36.119
<v Speaker 1>he did that faithful day. More than fifty years later,

1031
01:00:36.960 --> 01:00:40.599
<v Speaker 1>he lies in that unmarked grave, identified only by a

1032
01:00:40.639 --> 01:00:44.159
<v Speaker 1>case number and a false name written on a hotel receipt.

1033
01:00:44.639 --> 01:00:47.920
<v Speaker 1>He left no explanation behind, only a trail of confirmed

1034
01:00:47.920 --> 01:00:51.880
<v Speaker 1>events and unanswered questions. And until someone finally puts a

1035
01:00:51.920 --> 01:00:55.480
<v Speaker 1>real name to the man who called himself Paul Higgins,

1036
01:00:56.320 --> 01:01:00.000
<v Speaker 1>the story of the Canora bank robbery will remain unfinished,

1037
01:01:00.280 --> 01:01:04.920
<v Speaker 1>with a dead man laying and waiting for his name

1038
01:01:05.039 --> 01:01:09.639
<v Speaker 1>to one day be claimed. And that's the story of

1039
01:01:09.639 --> 01:01:11.440
<v Speaker 1>the Canora bank robbery.

1040
01:01:12.159 --> 01:01:17.519
<v Speaker 2>Huh wow wow, Well, well, you know, I just had

1041
01:01:17.519 --> 01:01:22.360
<v Speaker 2>a thought because I was thinking, this man didn't necessarily

1042
01:01:23.519 --> 01:01:26.639
<v Speaker 2>like he could have been having this bomb, this detonator

1043
01:01:26.760 --> 01:01:29.480
<v Speaker 2>or whatever in his teeth in his mouth without it

1044
01:01:31.159 --> 01:01:33.679
<v Speaker 2>necessarily like it could have just been a prop to

1045
01:01:33.719 --> 01:01:37.239
<v Speaker 2>scare people, right, but he legitly had it, Like, yeah,

1046
01:01:37.280 --> 01:01:39.800
<v Speaker 2>it would blast. It was very real, but no one

1047
01:01:39.880 --> 01:01:41.119
<v Speaker 2>knew for sure, right.

1048
01:01:41.760 --> 01:01:44.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's no way of knowing for sure. I

1049
01:01:44.400 --> 01:01:48.159
<v Speaker 1>guess never No, it's a bomb threat until proven otherwise.

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01:01:48.239 --> 01:01:50.519
<v Speaker 2>So I'm almost surprised that he didn't just use it

1051
01:01:50.559 --> 01:01:53.320
<v Speaker 2>as kind of like a scare tactic is where I'm

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01:01:53.360 --> 01:01:53.960
<v Speaker 2>kind of getting at.

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01:01:54.039 --> 01:01:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I see, well, no, it was definitely not a tactic.

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01:01:57.079 --> 01:02:00.079
<v Speaker 1>There are some residents in Canora who like it if

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01:02:00.119 --> 01:02:03.679
<v Speaker 1>you go and watch some stuff online. They believe that

1056
01:02:03.840 --> 01:02:07.480
<v Speaker 1>he intended to die that day. That There's one guy

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01:02:07.519 --> 01:02:10.119
<v Speaker 1>I watch where he says he watched him step off

1058
01:02:10.159 --> 01:02:13.920
<v Speaker 1>the curb and he could almost see this like he

1059
01:02:14.039 --> 01:02:17.440
<v Speaker 1>was waiting for something to happen. I disagree. I don't

1060
01:02:17.679 --> 01:02:19.880
<v Speaker 1>because you can see the footage of the moment he

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01:02:19.920 --> 01:02:22.079
<v Speaker 1>steps off the curb, the moment he shot in the

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01:02:22.119 --> 01:02:26.920
<v Speaker 1>boom everything. I don't see an expectation of him dying there.

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01:02:27.440 --> 01:02:31.159
<v Speaker 1>But I do see a man who if it doesn't

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01:02:31.159 --> 01:02:34.559
<v Speaker 1>go his way, it's not going any other way than

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01:02:34.559 --> 01:02:35.400
<v Speaker 1>how he wants it to.

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01:02:36.880 --> 01:02:39.960
<v Speaker 2>But I mean, that's not necessarily to say that that

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01:02:39.960 --> 01:02:42.519
<v Speaker 2>person's wrong, because he did leave for a bit, right,

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01:02:43.000 --> 01:02:45.360
<v Speaker 2>So maybe he went in, like I don't know, was

1069
01:02:45.440 --> 01:02:50.239
<v Speaker 2>finishing some unfinished business or something to be prepared to

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01:02:50.440 --> 01:02:53.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, I might lose my life or whatever. Oh,

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01:02:53.599 --> 01:02:56.239
<v Speaker 2>and then come back and do this thing.

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01:02:56.440 --> 01:02:58.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Then that I got a question for you. Then

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01:02:58.840 --> 01:03:02.639
<v Speaker 1>then why bring in a getaway driver? Why get him

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01:03:02.639 --> 01:03:05.119
<v Speaker 1>to haul out a second bag of money. Why not

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01:03:05.320 --> 01:03:08.239
<v Speaker 1>just give me the vehicle and I'll do it myself.

1076
01:03:08.559 --> 01:03:11.559
<v Speaker 1>Expecting to blow up on your own or be shot

1077
01:03:11.679 --> 01:03:17.360
<v Speaker 1>or taken down, why why create a very the limited window?

1078
01:03:17.880 --> 01:03:21.360
<v Speaker 1>Why not give a larger window for authorities? If you're

1079
01:03:21.400 --> 01:03:26.440
<v Speaker 1>expecting to be taken down and go out with a boom,

1080
01:03:26.639 --> 01:03:28.960
<v Speaker 1>why would you not give him a larger opportunity. If

1081
01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:31.880
<v Speaker 1>that's your expectation, you want to feed it, you want

1082
01:03:31.920 --> 01:03:35.639
<v Speaker 1>it to happen. The opportunity police had was a window

1083
01:03:35.679 --> 01:03:39.519
<v Speaker 1>he didn't intend to give them, right, which tells me

1084
01:03:39.719 --> 01:03:44.280
<v Speaker 1>he did not intend to die. But if he was

1085
01:03:44.360 --> 01:03:46.840
<v Speaker 1>going to die, then he's gonna fucking die, like you

1086
01:03:46.880 --> 01:03:47.280
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean?

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01:03:47.400 --> 01:03:52.159
<v Speaker 2>Uh huh, huh jeez. The fact that he had to

1088
01:03:52.239 --> 01:03:54.880
<v Speaker 2>have been from a different country or something, because, like

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01:03:54.960 --> 01:03:56.800
<v Speaker 2>you did mention a couple of times, people thought he

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01:03:56.880 --> 01:03:59.280
<v Speaker 2>might have had a little bit of an uh accent

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01:03:59.280 --> 01:03:59.719
<v Speaker 2>of sorts.

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01:03:59.800 --> 01:04:02.719
<v Speaker 1>Right, he may have, but he also didn't like to

1093
01:04:02.760 --> 01:04:06.199
<v Speaker 1>talk a whole lot. Someone who's faking an accent could

1094
01:04:06.280 --> 01:04:11.719
<v Speaker 1>probably not want to talk a whole lot. Huh, Just saying,

1095
01:04:11.760 --> 01:04:14.480
<v Speaker 1>where's that that part in the story, right? If he's

1096
01:04:14.559 --> 01:04:17.000
<v Speaker 1>keeping to himself, it might be that he's hiding something.

1097
01:04:17.000 --> 01:04:19.880
<v Speaker 1>It might be that he's hiding his horrible fake accent.

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01:04:21.320 --> 01:04:23.480
<v Speaker 2>I guess. I'm just like, yeah, it's it's weird that

1099
01:04:23.599 --> 01:04:28.840
<v Speaker 2>someone could get away with something to this extent, But

1100
01:04:28.960 --> 01:04:31.039
<v Speaker 2>they probably didn't have like a photo per se of

1101
01:04:31.119 --> 01:04:33.280
<v Speaker 2>him or anything to put up there for a relative

1102
01:04:33.320 --> 01:04:33.800
<v Speaker 2>to see.

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01:04:34.039 --> 01:04:37.119
<v Speaker 1>No, No, they have sketches, composite sketches that were created,

1104
01:04:37.840 --> 01:04:40.519
<v Speaker 1>and then you of course have the descriptions and you

1105
01:04:40.599 --> 01:04:43.280
<v Speaker 1>align that with you know, missing persons reports.

1106
01:04:43.159 --> 01:04:46.400
<v Speaker 2>Right, So, but that's another reason why I was like,

1107
01:04:46.440 --> 01:04:50.400
<v Speaker 2>maybe it's another country, because maybe someone missing in another

1108
01:04:50.480 --> 01:04:54.159
<v Speaker 2>country wouldn't necessarily make their way, that wouldn't make their

1109
01:04:54.199 --> 01:04:57.440
<v Speaker 2>way to Canada, you know, true to be able to see.

1110
01:04:57.239 --> 01:05:00.199
<v Speaker 1>True enough, though the descriptions everything it was sent international,

1111
01:05:00.360 --> 01:05:03.320
<v Speaker 1>like the fingerprint was also sent internationally and everything. It's

1112
01:05:03.320 --> 01:05:05.519
<v Speaker 1>going to be harder to trace in other countries for sure,

1113
01:05:05.519 --> 01:05:08.440
<v Speaker 1>but there's at least a small opportunity that they tried

1114
01:05:08.679 --> 01:05:09.679
<v Speaker 1>and they looked you know.

1115
01:05:09.960 --> 01:05:12.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I mean, I know this happened, but just

1116
01:05:12.719 --> 01:05:16.480
<v Speaker 2>because you don't know who did it in any way,

1117
01:05:16.519 --> 01:05:18.400
<v Speaker 2>it almost seems a little unbelievable.

1118
01:05:18.719 --> 01:05:23.559
<v Speaker 1>Definitely, I truly think that we will find out within

1119
01:05:23.599 --> 01:05:27.079
<v Speaker 1>the next ten years who he was. I definitely do

1120
01:05:27.199 --> 01:05:30.639
<v Speaker 1>because we have the genetic genealogy. Now we have these databases,

1121
01:05:30.840 --> 01:05:33.639
<v Speaker 1>we have his DNA, we can compare it. It's just

1122
01:05:33.679 --> 01:05:36.280
<v Speaker 1>a matter of when it's going to happen. There will

1123
01:05:36.320 --> 01:05:41.119
<v Speaker 1>be a year eventually when someone is going to say

1124
01:05:41.920 --> 01:05:44.880
<v Speaker 1>it's within our budget or we have the time, and

1125
01:05:44.920 --> 01:05:48.400
<v Speaker 1>we have the time, Yes, someone, maybe it'll even be

1126
01:05:48.840 --> 01:05:53.039
<v Speaker 1>who knows, a retired officer who's volunteering and saying, you

1127
01:05:53.039 --> 01:05:56.280
<v Speaker 1>know what, you don't even need to pay me. I'm

1128
01:05:56.320 --> 01:05:58.159
<v Speaker 1>going to go through this. All you need to do

1129
01:05:58.199 --> 01:06:01.480
<v Speaker 1>is pay for the testing results that sort of stuff.

1130
01:06:01.800 --> 01:06:03.840
<v Speaker 1>But you don't need to pay me to go through

1131
01:06:03.880 --> 01:06:06.239
<v Speaker 1>the time and do it. Yeah, so the time isn't there,

1132
01:06:06.280 --> 01:06:08.639
<v Speaker 1>it's just a matter of paying the lab.

1133
01:06:09.519 --> 01:06:11.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. It almost makes you feel like you're on the

1134
01:06:11.719 --> 01:06:14.239
<v Speaker 2>edge of your seat just waiting, you know, like this

1135
01:06:14.320 --> 01:06:18.519
<v Speaker 2>could we could know who it was, but we can't

1136
01:06:18.599 --> 01:06:20.960
<v Speaker 2>yet because we you know, we don't know when.

1137
01:06:21.039 --> 01:06:24.159
<v Speaker 1>And yes, like I say, I'm I'm confident within ten

1138
01:06:24.239 --> 01:06:28.039
<v Speaker 1>years we will know who this is. But that also

1139
01:06:28.039 --> 01:06:30.000
<v Speaker 1>begs the question just because the tests are going to

1140
01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:32.239
<v Speaker 1>be done, Will we find the name?

1141
01:06:32.920 --> 01:06:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, no, maybe that family has never submitted anything

1142
01:06:37.039 --> 01:06:38.400
<v Speaker 2>or something, right, it potential.

1143
01:06:38.880 --> 01:06:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But anyways, I thought that was a pretty interesting

1144
01:06:41.920 --> 01:06:44.280
<v Speaker 1>case and I wanted to cover that with you. So yeah,

1145
01:06:44.320 --> 01:06:47.199
<v Speaker 1>there you go. Literally, you got to watch this footage.

1146
01:06:47.239 --> 01:06:49.719
<v Speaker 1>It is horrific. It is black and white though, so

1147
01:06:49.840 --> 01:06:53.639
<v Speaker 1>it's less jarring. There is a dog in the footage.

1148
01:06:54.079 --> 01:06:55.880
<v Speaker 2>I will tell you that that what gets hurt.

1149
01:06:56.239 --> 01:06:59.119
<v Speaker 1>No, there's a dog in one of the vehicles next

1150
01:06:59.159 --> 01:07:02.599
<v Speaker 1>to where the explosion goes was off and the explosion

1151
01:07:02.639 --> 01:07:04.119
<v Speaker 1>scares a dog and it hops out a window and

1152
01:07:04.159 --> 01:07:05.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of runs down the street. But it's totally fine.

1153
01:07:05.880 --> 01:07:08.320
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's got a little hearing issues, who knows, ears

1154
01:07:08.320 --> 01:07:11.440
<v Speaker 1>are probably ringing, But other than that, it was completely fine.

1155
01:07:11.719 --> 01:07:14.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean, I think some people who were close

1156
01:07:14.400 --> 01:07:17.079
<v Speaker 2>to probably do have hearing damage or something, right.

1157
01:07:17.000 --> 01:07:19.599
<v Speaker 1>Probably most likely that wouldn't have been a loud boom.

1158
01:07:20.159 --> 01:07:20.679
<v Speaker 2>Damn.

1159
01:07:20.920 --> 01:07:24.199
<v Speaker 1>I do know that the robber had hearing damage. Afterwards,

1160
01:07:28.079 --> 01:07:29.480
<v Speaker 1>the realization on your.

1161
01:07:29.320 --> 01:07:31.719
<v Speaker 2>Face what I in And I was just like, well yeah,

1162
01:07:31.760 --> 01:07:36.679
<v Speaker 2>and then I was like what the shit? Then it

1163
01:07:36.719 --> 01:07:39.840
<v Speaker 2>was like almost was it just a disappointment on my face?

1164
01:07:39.960 --> 01:07:42.079
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it was a wait, really, oh my god, did

1165
01:07:42.119 --> 01:07:45.480
<v Speaker 1>you really say that like that? What was on your face?

1166
01:07:45.880 --> 01:07:50.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Boy? Well, well done. That was a very interesting episode.

1167
01:07:50.320 --> 01:07:51.000
<v Speaker 2>I'll give you that.

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01:07:51.239 --> 01:07:54.079
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that, and thank you guys for being here too.

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01:07:54.159 --> 01:07:59.119
<v Speaker 1>We appreciate you. Happy New Year's almost. You may be

1170
01:07:59.199 --> 01:08:01.559
<v Speaker 1>listening to this and then year. If you are, hopefully

1171
01:08:01.599 --> 01:08:03.320
<v Speaker 1>you have a great new year. And if you're not,

1172
01:08:03.559 --> 01:08:06.800
<v Speaker 1>hopefully you have a great upcoming new year. Twenty twenty

1173
01:08:06.840 --> 01:08:08.400
<v Speaker 1>six I think is going to be good. But the

1174
01:08:08.480 --> 01:08:11.760
<v Speaker 1>thing is you have to make it good. I see

1175
01:08:11.800 --> 01:08:14.519
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people reflecting on past years and it's like,

1176
01:08:14.519 --> 01:08:17.239
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five suck, twenty twenty four suck, twenty twenty

1177
01:08:17.239 --> 01:08:20.319
<v Speaker 1>three suck, Yeah, because you made it suck well.

1178
01:08:20.399 --> 01:08:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes it can be a mindset, for sure, so but

1179
01:08:23.000 --> 01:08:25.199
<v Speaker 2>then sometimes people are down on their luck too, and

1180
01:08:25.439 --> 01:08:27.000
<v Speaker 2>it does take some time to get out of it.

1181
01:08:27.119 --> 01:08:30.319
<v Speaker 1>Genuinely, Yeah, you're right, but for a consistent basis of

1182
01:08:30.439 --> 01:08:32.479
<v Speaker 1>well that year sucked, well, that year sucked. You know what,

1183
01:08:32.720 --> 01:08:35.319
<v Speaker 1>If that's the case, make this year not suck. Do

1184
01:08:35.439 --> 01:08:39.000
<v Speaker 1>your best, and we believe in you. You're amazing. Thank

1185
01:08:39.079 --> 01:08:40.479
<v Speaker 1>you for being here. I'm not going to talk about

1186
01:08:40.479 --> 01:08:44.039
<v Speaker 1>description stuff. That's that, and until next time, until twenty

1187
01:08:44.079 --> 01:08:47.720
<v Speaker 1>twenty six, stay wicked,