Speaker 1: Callaroga Shark Media.
Speaker 2: Hey there, Johnny Mack with your daily comedy news. I'm
Speaker 2: actually recording this one on Saturday. Still no boiler. It's
Speaker 2: forty seven degrees in the kitchen, and you may hear
Speaker 2: my voices a little blown out from screaming over the
Speaker 2: DJ at the wedding of Friday night. But all is
Speaker 2: good here in the basement studio. Later today, around noon Eastern,
Speaker 2: I will release a bonus episode with the Comedy Survivor
Speaker 2: selection show. The executive committee, which is me, has met
Speaker 2: and named the sixteen comedians that will take place in
Speaker 2: Comedy Survivor coming to this feed in January. We'll talk
Speaker 2: about that at noon. Leading off today, Marcelo Hernandez in
Speaker 2: the news. Now he does two things well, one of
Speaker 2: them is Domingo and variance on that, and the other,
Speaker 2: of course, is a Sebastian Maniscalco impression. He got dragged
Speaker 2: into the White House's battle with Sabrina Carbenter. Sabrina was
Speaker 2: unhappy that the White House had used some of her
Speaker 2: songs in a post celebrating the work of Ice. They
Speaker 2: deleted that post, and then they posted a new clip
Speaker 2: of Sabrina Carpenter doing a commercial for her recent SNL appearance,
Speaker 2: with the audio overdub so that she appears to be
Speaker 2: calling cast member Marcelo Hernandez illegal instead of hot. In
Speaker 2: the original clip, this is just you know, I've been
Speaker 2: doing the bit about the president, and I disagree on
Speaker 2: some of the issues, one of them mis Seth Meyer's
Speaker 2: been doing that bit, but like, come on, guys, what
Speaker 2: are you doing here? The original SNL commercial Sabrina still
Speaker 2: alongside Marcelo and said I think I might need to
Speaker 2: arrest someone for being too hot. Hernandez said, oh well,
Speaker 2: I turned myself in. In the White House version of
Speaker 2: the clip, the over dubbed audio now has a voice
Speaker 2: like Carpenter saying too illegal. The caption reads, PSA, if
Speaker 2: you're a criminal illegal, you will be arrested and deported.
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a listen to what these idiots did.
Speaker 3: I think I might need to arrest someone for being
Speaker 3: too illegal. Oh well, I turned myself in. You're under arrest.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not even a good edit. It like
Speaker 2: it's just what are you doing? Just what are you doing?
Speaker 2: From Wreussell Talk your Home for Comedy News, Tony Hinchcliff
Speaker 2: said he turned down a WWE writer role earlier in
Speaker 2: his career, Hinchcliffe was on Rogan's podcast. However, the role
Speaker 2: would have required Tony Hinchcliff to move to Stamford, Connecticut,
Speaker 2: which would have made commuting for his comedy commmits rather annoying.
Speaker 2: Hinchcliffe said, yeah, it was only a couple of years
Speaker 2: into me doing stand up, like seven nights a week
Speaker 2: at the comedy store all the time. Someone's like, hey,
Speaker 2: I have a friend at WWE. If you want to
Speaker 2: have a meeting with them and just talk. I went
Speaker 2: in with trade up ideas like the Undertaker's brother comes
Speaker 2: back again. I can't even remember any of them, it's
Speaker 2: been so long, but I went in with the whole
Speaker 2: thing and the guy's like, this is crazy. You just
Speaker 2: did this, and I'm like, yeah, I found out a
Speaker 2: couple of days ago. We were going to talk. They
Speaker 2: offered him the gig, but he said, I would have
Speaker 2: had to move to Connecticut and take a train in
Speaker 2: New York every night to go do stand up, and
Speaker 2: that would have been exhausting. If it was anywhere else
Speaker 2: other than Connecticut, it kind of would have made sense.
Speaker 2: If it was New York City, it would have been
Speaker 2: a no brainer if it was in La definitely w
Speaker 2: Camal Bell is not happy with Friend of the Show
Speaker 2: Jason Zinneman. Bell wrote on his substack hate New York
Speaker 2: Times Louis c. K doesn't need your help subheading when
Speaker 2: a newspaper has only one stand up comedy critic, they
Speaker 2: actually have none. This is a lengthy substack post from Bell.
Speaker 2: I'll pick away at it. He writes, The New York
Speaker 2: Times only has one dedicated stand up comedy critic. When
Speaker 2: they first hired him in twenty eleven, I thought, yay,
Speaker 2: the New York Times has taken comedy seriously. But more
Speaker 2: than a short period of time, I came to realize
Speaker 2: that a newspaper that only has one comedy critic only
Speaker 2: has one sense of humor. This is a problem because
Speaker 2: comedy is as diverse as a discipline as any other
Speaker 2: art form. It would be like if The New York
Speaker 2: Times only had one music critic. We all know that
Speaker 2: would be ridiculous because the classical music critic has no
Speaker 2: business reviewing pop music. When you google New York Times
Speaker 2: music critic, you get a bunch of different names. Only
Speaker 2: one name comes up. When you do the same with
Speaker 2: the phrase New York Times comedy critic Jason Zinnamon all right,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna jump in there. If you're a regular listen
Speaker 2: to this program, you know Jason's been on several times,
Speaker 2: and I've had lengthy hour conversations with them. I've never
Speaker 2: met any conversation we've had. You've heard ninety eight percent
Speaker 2: of it on this podcast, other than you know, the hey,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna hit record now part of our discussions. Seems
Speaker 2: like a really cool guy, seems like a level headed guy.
Speaker 2: As I often say, I know more about comedy than say,
Speaker 2: ninety eight percent of the general population, and then the
Speaker 2: people that know more about comedy than I do know
Speaker 2: a lot more. And Jason's in that second camp. I
Speaker 2: also believe, and I'm gonna fact check this here as
Speaker 2: I talk and type, I believe his title is critic
Speaker 2: at large, not so much specific comedy critic. So I'm
Speaker 2: on ny Times dot com right now, and Jason's byline says,
Speaker 2: I am a critic at large for the Culture section
Speaker 2: of the New York Times and write a column about comedy.
Speaker 2: Jason's own words here what I cover, skipping down to
Speaker 2: the second paragraph. Since becoming the paper's first comedy critic
Speaker 2: at twenty eleven, I focused on stand up specials, but
Speaker 2: I also keep an eye on improv, sketch podcasts, plays, musicals,
Speaker 2: TikTok accounts, and any other forms in which jokes are made.
Speaker 2: As a critic at large, I also like to write
Speaker 2: about movie theater and books, but never seem enough time
Speaker 2: to do it now. As someone who puts this show
Speaker 2: together every day, and and I'm a paid subscriber to
Speaker 2: The New York Times, I believe and I could kind
Speaker 2: of prove it here. Other people write about comedy for
Speaker 2: The New York Times. I just typed in search query comedian,
Speaker 2: and as I record this on Saturday morning, it is
Speaker 2: ten thirty eight am the time, just telling me. Six
Speaker 2: hours ago Hannah Ziegler posted an article in the Arts
Speaker 2: section and the headline bouble for a day, but he
Speaker 2: can't sing, And there's a little resemblance subheader. Dan Permlan,
Speaker 2: a comedian, looks and sounds nothing like Michael Boublay, and
Speaker 2: for some reason he was hired to impersonate the Crouner
Speaker 2: at a birthday party. The next one that surfaced is
Speaker 2: from August and Zennaman, then one from September twenty eighth,
Speaker 2: Also in the arts section, Mark Marin and other comedians
Speaker 2: rebuke Piers in Saudi Festival. That's from Derek, Bryce and Taylor.
Speaker 2: I guess, to be fair to mister Bell, that's commentary
Speaker 2: and not a critic piece. But you get where I'm going,
Speaker 2: and I don't want to bog down in this. There's
Speaker 2: plenty here. Bell rights. While I do occasionally read Zinneman's work,
Speaker 2: I read it because it concerns my industry, not because
Speaker 2: I need his particular critics eye. And yes, a big
Speaker 2: part of the reason I don't seek him out is
Speaker 2: because when he found space to mention me, it was
Speaker 2: clear he was not a fan. Here's the time he
Speaker 2: squeezed a short review of my Netflix special Private School
Speaker 2: Negro into one of his columns. Belle then quotes Zinneman
Speaker 2: is writing Bell's new special seems a little tempid. His
Speaker 2: stand up was never danced with punchlines. But Private School
Speaker 2: Negro veers further from a tight club set toward a
Speaker 2: mix of storytelling, jokes and arguments. It's a rambling, sometimes
Speaker 2: overly familiar hour. Again, I am friendly with Jason Zenman,
Speaker 2: so I admit I come with a bias here, But
Speaker 2: I don't think that paragraph I just wrote to you
Speaker 2: is like absurd. Getting back to what prompted this piece
Speaker 2: from Bell. On November twenty one, Zinneman reviewed one of
Speaker 2: Louis c K's recent stand up shows at the Beacon Theaters.
Speaker 2: Zenneman's lovingly crafted prose describes in detailed the current evolution
Speaker 2: of Louis's career. See Jason is concerned that too few
Speaker 2: people know that Louis still a great comedian. This concern
Speaker 2: seems particularly bizarre and unfounded because Louis in the middle
Speaker 2: of a comedy tour that's mostly sold out. It's not
Speaker 2: like Louis playing small clubs. Louis playing at the kind
Speaker 2: of venues you play when you're a super successful touring act.
Speaker 2: But you don't want to play the enormo done in
Speaker 2: the town, so instead you play a bunch of shows
Speaker 2: at the giant theater in town. In other words, Louis
Speaker 2: is literally living the stand up comedian dream. Louis doesn't
Speaker 2: need Zinnemen's helps writing his word, but Zinnamann does it anyway.
Speaker 2: Why again, I'll let Jasus speak for himself as an
Speaker 2: observer here. I think Jason went to Louis ck show
Speaker 2: during the New York Comedy Festival and thought the stand
Speaker 2: up was good, and he wrote about it, because that's
Speaker 2: what he does. Bell, quoting Zinnamon Zinnaman writing, in the
Speaker 2: seven years since c K admitted to sexual misconduct, the
Speaker 2: comedian has produced four different hours of comedy. It's a large,
Speaker 2: under examined, formally audacious body of work that represents a
Speaker 2: break from the past, but also continuity. Bell writes, under examined, mister, Zinnamon, A,
Speaker 2: you're trying to make us feel bad for not keeping
Speaker 2: up with Louis c K's work after his admission, et cetera,
Speaker 2: et cetera. Are you saying that CK's work is somehow
Speaker 2: so good it'll make us forget that he did the
Speaker 2: thing he did, et cetera, et cetera. Louis c K
Speaker 2: doesn't own anything from the public. His work isn't under examined.
Speaker 2: It is utterly discarded by the audience who thought he
Speaker 2: could trust him. Interesting. I mean yes to all this.
Speaker 2: I see what Belle saying. I think Jason Zinaman went
Speaker 2: to a show and is also pointing out CK has
Speaker 2: put out a bunch of things that people haven't seen.
Speaker 2: I mean, if we want to nitpick the word under examined,
Speaker 2: especially the examined part of it, I mean, sure, here
Speaker 2: in the basement where I have no boiler, I'd just
Speaker 2: like a good comedy fight a lot more from Camel
Speaker 2: Bell on his substack. If you want to check that out.
Speaker 2: If you listen to yesterday show, I told you Vulture
Speaker 2: has Night Thoughts as their number one comedy special of
Speaker 2: the year. There's now a trailer for it. Based on
Speaker 2: this trailer, I don't see how this is possibly the
Speaker 2: number one special of the year. But again I haven't
Speaker 2: seen it. But this is a year in which Mark
Speaker 2: Marin's special came out, and I don't see how this
Speaker 2: is going to be better than that. So let's listen
Speaker 2: to the trailer.
Speaker 4: Watching your movie made me want to get therapy. Oh
Speaker 4: that's good, that's clever. Do not get weird about the muscles.
Speaker 4: These muscles can't hurt you. These muscles are decorative. Never
Speaker 4: been in a fight for because I'm super good at apologizing.
Speaker 2: I am an immigrant. Are there any other immigrants here? Okay?
Speaker 4: What you can't do is point at someone else. I
Speaker 4: thought I was happy, and then every now and then I'd.
Speaker 2: Get very angry out of nowhere.
Speaker 4: I watched Bananas in the stake.
Speaker 3: Anyone remember what it was like buying marijuana before it
Speaker 3: was legal.
Speaker 4: You had to go to a guy's house, pretend to
Speaker 4: be friends with a guy.
Speaker 3: You had to like, watch a little bit of the
Speaker 3: Matrix with him. You guys get night thoughts when you're
Speaker 3: laying in bed in the middle of the night and
Speaker 3: you can't sleep, and your brain's like, here's something new
Speaker 3: for you.
Speaker 4: To worry about, or.
Speaker 2: You hadn't thought of that. It's because you're a little
Speaker 2: bit stupid.
Speaker 4: Night thoughts are like day thoughts, except they hate you.
Speaker 2: This was really keeping me up at night.
Speaker 4: White people, there's more.
Speaker 2: And for some reason it is bothering me. The voice
Speaker 2: that Kamil Nan Johnny uses during his stand up Now,
Speaker 2: to be fair, my friend Larry the Cable Guy does
Speaker 2: an exaggeration. Sebastian Manaskalko does an exaggeration, and I right
Speaker 2: now am doing an exaggeration. If I'm at the bar
Speaker 2: at trivia night, I'm not like Glenn, would you like
Speaker 2: a beer? I'm like, hey, you want to get another beer?
Speaker 2: My normal speaking voice would be something like that, like Hey,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have a sip of my coffee right now.
Speaker 2: So this is a performance, and I'm up in my
Speaker 2: Johnny Mack delivery that my children make fun of. So
Speaker 2: maybe I'm being unfair. But in Kisha Curius, here is
Speaker 2: Kamail Nanjihanni on the Michael Rosenbaum podcast. Fun fact, Michael
Speaker 2: is my former intern. That's right, way back in the
Speaker 2: twentieth century at WR Radio. Michael Rosenbaum was my intern.
Speaker 2: And I got to give props to Michael when he
Speaker 2: was the intern making copies. He said he was going
Speaker 2: to Hollywood to become an actor and that he did,
Speaker 2: so I plot him. Anyway, here is Kamil Nan Johnny's
Speaker 2: normal speaking voice.
Speaker 1: You know, well, I did stuff that should have been
Speaker 1: a home run, and then it wasn't like eternals. You know,
Speaker 1: it was Oscar winning director, one of the craziest casts.
Speaker 1: You know, you had like legends, You had Salma Hayek,
Speaker 1: you had Angelina Njoli, you had new people who are
Speaker 1: amazing Brian Tyry Henry Barry Kiogen, who have both been
Speaker 1: nominated for Oscar.
Speaker 4: You thought it was just a slamm.
Speaker 2: Dum based on that Vulture list that I mentioned I
Speaker 2: did watch Ian Edward special. It's a nice club set.
Speaker 2: There are some individual jokes that are really strong. But
Speaker 2: if Variety thinks that's like one of the top ten
Speaker 2: of the year, as we used to say in Queen's
Speaker 2: I think Variety is on crack. Now Variety is not
Speaker 2: an individual person, but someone who was on crack that
Speaker 2: doesn't write for Vulture might think that Ian Edwards is
Speaker 2: one of the top of the year. So I'm really
Speaker 2: suspect that kamel On Gianni is the number one special
Speaker 2: of the year. It comes out December nineteenth. It won't
Speaker 2: make my list because my publicist wants my list this
Speaker 2: weekend so she can publicize it, so that'll be Saturday's episode. Oh,
Speaker 2: I did record the Billboard Top twenty five. The rest
Speaker 2: of the list is out. I looked at the list.
Speaker 2: I'm saving my reaction to it for some episodes. Right
Speaker 2: after Christmas. I could take a couple days off, you know,
Speaker 2: Christmas Day. I don't want to be sitting at the
Speaker 2: basement talking about comedy and plus, there won't be any
Speaker 2: news anyway, like any list. Some things I went, oh,
Speaker 2: good pick and some other things I went, that is
Speaker 2: crazy town. If you'd like to hear my thoughts now.
Speaker 2: It is released as a bonus episode for the paid subscribers,
Speaker 2: So for five bucks a month you get this show
Speaker 2: commercial free, plus the extra episodes that they occasionally sprinkle in.
Speaker 2: I owe you guys at DCNA. It's been a super
Speaker 2: busy month. But you can hear my reaction to Billboard's
Speaker 2: list in there right now. Otherwise get it for free
Speaker 2: on December twenty ninth, how are we doing on time?
Speaker 2: Oh my? The combination of I have no voice and
Speaker 2: the clock says, let's take a break out today On
Speaker 2: the eight hundred Pound Gorilla Rosie Jones triple Threat. On
Speaker 2: the Joe Rogan Podcast, Joe Rogan called President Trump a
Speaker 2: kid and revealed President Trump's text habits. Rogan said, he
Speaker 2: makes the text go big like USA is respected, respected
Speaker 2: all caps, and it makes the text in large. That's fun.
Speaker 2: I've never received a text from President Trump. Hannah Gasby
Speaker 2: will have a new show set to debut in March
Speaker 2: at the Melbourne Comedy Festival. The Evening Muse is described
Speaker 2: to be like a Tonight Show, but hosted by Hannah Gatsby,
Speaker 2: so it isn't anything like you'd expect. The Melbourne Comedy
Speaker 2: Festival runs from March twenty fifth through April nineteenth. Always
Speaker 2: fun to cover here in the basement. One of these
Speaker 2: years I will have to go Love Melbourne. Melbourne is
Speaker 2: a great city. For its fortieth anniversary, the twenty twenty
Speaker 2: sixth festival will include a one night only spectacular, The
Speaker 2: Big Four to Oh, celebrating the milestone, bringing together standout
Speaker 2: comedians from this year's program and legends from across the
Speaker 2: four decades. A bunch of local legends will be there.
Speaker 2: I don't think you would recognize any of these names
Speaker 2: unless you're, like, you know, extremely into Ozzie comedy. International
Speaker 2: stars hitting the festival include the UK's Sam Nickeresti, who
Speaker 2: won the twenty two twenty five Edinburgh Comedy Award for
Speaker 2: Best Show, Ian Smith, Chloe Petts, Joe Kent, Walter, Is
Speaker 2: Luke McQueen, Phil Wang, He's Great, Scotland's Connor Burns, Daniel
Speaker 2: Sloss and Larry Dean, and Ireland's David o'darty and Joanne McNally.
Speaker 2: From the US, Sam Jay, Abby Govinan and Zana Johnson.
Speaker 2: There are also international comedians from Singapore, Malaysia, South Africa,
Speaker 2: Denmark abbreviated d NK for some reason. Sophie Hawgin of
Speaker 2: the d NK will be there, Takashi Wakasugi from Japan
Speaker 2: and Tarag Hardikar from India. It's the Melbourne Comedy Festival
Speaker 2: coming up. Patton Oswald who's out there ruining Star Trek
Speaker 2: with his really awful Doug the Vulcan character, and the
Speaker 2: President has done nothing about this. I mean, the President
Speaker 2: is nothing but disappointing me today. Mister President, please make
Speaker 2: Star Trek great again? Have you seen the teaser art
Speaker 2: for Starfleet Academy, Mister President? Holy cow? I mean, I
Speaker 2: just want to say words that sound a lot like
Speaker 2: Jesus that have a JC in it, But you know
Speaker 2: I don't won't offend anybody, but boy, this Star Trek
Speaker 2: poster awful. And Paton Oswald has Dug the Vulcan ruining
Speaker 2: Star Trek. He was talking about AI and he said,
Speaker 2: AI is not going anywhere. We can't wish this stuff
Speaker 2: away because we invented it, So how do we find
Speaker 2: ways to work around it or make it more human?
Speaker 2: I like the rewards, but the rewards are only fun
Speaker 2: if you got it. It's almost like getting away with it.
Speaker 2: I got all the success from making things up from
Speaker 2: thin air. There's something beautiful about that, getting to sit
Speaker 2: down and come up with a joke out of nothing.
Speaker 2: It'll never get old for me. I've always set them
Speaker 2: and showed this for the money and the anecdotes. I
Speaker 2: want some really amazing stories, and when every part of
Speaker 2: the canvas covered, I want to be able to explore
Speaker 2: every corner of it. It changes you when you experience
Speaker 2: all this stuff. I would I have the Severdas story.
Speaker 2: Been meaning to get this one in. He was on
Speaker 2: social media talking about Mumbai's worsening air quality. He said
Speaker 2: it's reached a point where coughing has become redundant as
Speaker 2: his lungs have adapted. He was on Instagram. He filmed
Speaker 2: it in his living room and added a smoke filter
Speaker 2: for effect. Did He posted, Oh you think this is outside, No,
Speaker 2: this is what's happening inside you. Apparently Mumbai's air quality
Speaker 2: index has now touched the severe category. That's your comedy
Speaker 2: news for today. All right back around noon Eastern with
Speaker 2: the Comedy Survivors Selection Show. While I'm recording, I'm arguing
Speaker 2: with the AI to make new artwork. It has made artwork.
Speaker 2: You've seen it in the Facebook group Daily Comedy News
Speaker 2: podcast group. But I'm like, can you revise it? And
Speaker 2: the AI was like, no, I can't do that, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, you just did it. Ah yeah, but that
Speaker 2: was before I discovered the policy. All right, well this
Speaker 2: is a parody. Can you do it? And just it's
Speaker 2: so annoying sometimes the AI. Maybe Patton Oswald is right,
Speaker 2: except not about Star Trek. All Right, bye,