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<v Speaker 1>Callaroga Shark Media.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey there, Johnny Mack with your daily comedy news. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>actually recording this one on Saturday. Still no boiler. It's

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<v Speaker 2>forty seven degrees in the kitchen, and you may hear

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<v Speaker 2>my voices a little blown out from screaming over the

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<v Speaker 2>DJ at the wedding of Friday night. But all is

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<v Speaker 2>good here in the basement studio. Later today, around noon Eastern,

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<v Speaker 2>I will release a bonus episode with the Comedy Survivor

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<v Speaker 2>selection show. The executive committee, which is me, has met

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<v Speaker 2>and named the sixteen comedians that will take place in

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<v Speaker 2>Comedy Survivor coming to this feed in January. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 2>about that at noon. Leading off today, Marcelo Hernandez in

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<v Speaker 2>the news. Now he does two things well, one of

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<v Speaker 2>them is Domingo and variance on that, and the other,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, is a Sebastian Maniscalco impression. He got dragged

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<v Speaker 2>into the White House's battle with Sabrina Carbenter. Sabrina was

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<v Speaker 2>unhappy that the White House had used some of her

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<v Speaker 2>songs in a post celebrating the work of Ice. They

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<v Speaker 2>deleted that post, and then they posted a new clip

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<v Speaker 2>of Sabrina Carpenter doing a commercial for her recent SNL appearance,

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<v Speaker 2>with the audio overdub so that she appears to be

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<v Speaker 2>calling cast member Marcelo Hernandez illegal instead of hot. In

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<v Speaker 2>the original clip, this is just you know, I've been

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<v Speaker 2>doing the bit about the president, and I disagree on

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<v Speaker 2>some of the issues, one of them mis Seth Meyer's

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<v Speaker 2>been doing that bit, but like, come on, guys, what

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<v Speaker 2>are you doing here? The original SNL commercial Sabrina still

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<v Speaker 2>alongside Marcelo and said I think I might need to

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<v Speaker 2>arrest someone for being too hot. Hernandez said, oh well,

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<v Speaker 2>I turned myself in. In the White House version of

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<v Speaker 2>the clip, the over dubbed audio now has a voice

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<v Speaker 2>like Carpenter saying too illegal. The caption reads, PSA, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're a criminal illegal, you will be arrested and deported.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's take a listen to what these idiots did.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I might need to arrest someone for being

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<v Speaker 3>too illegal. Oh well, I turned myself in. You're under arrest.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's not even a good edit. It like

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<v Speaker 2>it's just what are you doing? Just what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>From Wreussell Talk your Home for Comedy News, Tony Hinchcliff

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<v Speaker 2>said he turned down a WWE writer role earlier in

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<v Speaker 2>his career, Hinchcliffe was on Rogan's podcast. However, the role

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<v Speaker 2>would have required Tony Hinchcliff to move to Stamford, Connecticut,

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<v Speaker 2>which would have made commuting for his comedy commmits rather annoying.

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<v Speaker 2>Hinchcliffe said, yeah, it was only a couple of years

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<v Speaker 2>into me doing stand up, like seven nights a week

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<v Speaker 2>at the comedy store all the time. Someone's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I have a friend at WWE. If you want to

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<v Speaker 2>have a meeting with them and just talk. I went

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<v Speaker 2>in with trade up ideas like the Undertaker's brother comes

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<v Speaker 2>back again. I can't even remember any of them, it's

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<v Speaker 2>been so long, but I went in with the whole

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<v Speaker 2>thing and the guy's like, this is crazy. You just

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<v Speaker 2>did this, and I'm like, yeah, I found out a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of days ago. We were going to talk. They

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<v Speaker 2>offered him the gig, but he said, I would have

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<v Speaker 2>had to move to Connecticut and take a train in

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<v Speaker 2>New York every night to go do stand up, and

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<v Speaker 2>that would have been exhausting. If it was anywhere else

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<v Speaker 2>other than Connecticut, it kind of would have made sense.

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<v Speaker 2>If it was New York City, it would have been

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<v Speaker 2>a no brainer if it was in La definitely w

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<v Speaker 2>Camal Bell is not happy with Friend of the Show

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<v Speaker 2>Jason Zinneman. Bell wrote on his substack hate New York

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<v Speaker 2>Times Louis c. K doesn't need your help subheading when

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<v Speaker 2>a newspaper has only one stand up comedy critic, they

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<v Speaker 2>actually have none. This is a lengthy substack post from Bell.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll pick away at it. He writes, The New York

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<v Speaker 2>Times only has one dedicated stand up comedy critic. When

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<v Speaker 2>they first hired him in twenty eleven, I thought, yay,

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<v Speaker 2>the New York Times has taken comedy seriously. But more

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<v Speaker 2>than a short period of time, I came to realize

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<v Speaker 2>that a newspaper that only has one comedy critic only

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<v Speaker 2>has one sense of humor. This is a problem because

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<v Speaker 2>comedy is as diverse as a discipline as any other

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<v Speaker 2>art form. It would be like if The New York

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<v Speaker 2>Times only had one music critic. We all know that

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<v Speaker 2>would be ridiculous because the classical music critic has no

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<v Speaker 2>business reviewing pop music. When you google New York Times

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<v Speaker 2>music critic, you get a bunch of different names. Only

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<v Speaker 2>one name comes up. When you do the same with

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<v Speaker 2>the phrase New York Times comedy critic Jason Zinnamon all right,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna jump in there. If you're a regular listen

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<v Speaker 2>to this program, you know Jason's been on several times,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've had lengthy hour conversations with them. I've never

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<v Speaker 2>met any conversation we've had. You've heard ninety eight percent

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<v Speaker 2>of it on this podcast, other than you know, the hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna hit record now part of our discussions. Seems

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<v Speaker 2>like a really cool guy, seems like a level headed guy.

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<v Speaker 2>As I often say, I know more about comedy than say,

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<v Speaker 2>ninety eight percent of the general population, and then the

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<v Speaker 2>people that know more about comedy than I do know

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more. And Jason's in that second camp. I

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<v Speaker 2>also believe, and I'm gonna fact check this here as

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<v Speaker 2>I talk and type, I believe his title is critic

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<v Speaker 2>at large, not so much specific comedy critic. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>on ny Times dot com right now, and Jason's byline says,

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<v Speaker 2>I am a critic at large for the Culture section

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<v Speaker 2>of the New York Times and write a column about comedy.

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<v Speaker 2>Jason's own words here what I cover, skipping down to

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<v Speaker 2>the second paragraph. Since becoming the paper's first comedy critic

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<v Speaker 2>at twenty eleven, I focused on stand up specials, but

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<v Speaker 2>I also keep an eye on improv, sketch podcasts, plays, musicals,

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<v Speaker 2>TikTok accounts, and any other forms in which jokes are made.

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<v Speaker 2>As a critic at large, I also like to write

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<v Speaker 2>about movie theater and books, but never seem enough time

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<v Speaker 2>to do it now. As someone who puts this show

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<v Speaker 2>together every day, and and I'm a paid subscriber to

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<v Speaker 2>The New York Times, I believe and I could kind

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<v Speaker 2>of prove it here. Other people write about comedy for

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<v Speaker 2>The New York Times. I just typed in search query comedian,

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<v Speaker 2>and as I record this on Saturday morning, it is

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty eight am the time, just telling me. Six

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<v Speaker 2>hours ago Hannah Ziegler posted an article in the Arts

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<v Speaker 2>section and the headline bouble for a day, but he

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<v Speaker 2>can't sing, And there's a little resemblance subheader. Dan Permlan,

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<v Speaker 2>a comedian, looks and sounds nothing like Michael Boublay, and

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<v Speaker 2>for some reason he was hired to impersonate the Crouner

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<v Speaker 2>at a birthday party. The next one that surfaced is

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<v Speaker 2>from August and Zennaman, then one from September twenty eighth,

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<v Speaker 2>Also in the arts section, Mark Marin and other comedians

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<v Speaker 2>rebuke Piers in Saudi Festival. That's from Derek, Bryce and Taylor.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, to be fair to mister Bell, that's commentary

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<v Speaker 2>and not a critic piece. But you get where I'm going,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't want to bog down in this. There's

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<v Speaker 2>plenty here. Bell rights. While I do occasionally read Zinneman's work,

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<v Speaker 2>I read it because it concerns my industry, not because

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<v Speaker 2>I need his particular critics eye. And yes, a big

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<v Speaker 2>part of the reason I don't seek him out is

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<v Speaker 2>because when he found space to mention me, it was

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<v Speaker 2>clear he was not a fan. Here's the time he

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<v Speaker 2>squeezed a short review of my Netflix special Private School

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<v Speaker 2>Negro into one of his columns. Belle then quotes Zinneman

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<v Speaker 2>is writing Bell's new special seems a little tempid. His

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<v Speaker 2>stand up was never danced with punchlines. But Private School

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<v Speaker 2>Negro veers further from a tight club set toward a

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<v Speaker 2>mix of storytelling, jokes and arguments. It's a rambling, sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>overly familiar hour. Again, I am friendly with Jason Zenman,

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<v Speaker 2>so I admit I come with a bias here, But

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that paragraph I just wrote to you

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<v Speaker 2>is like absurd. Getting back to what prompted this piece

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<v Speaker 2>from Bell. On November twenty one, Zinneman reviewed one of

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<v Speaker 2>Louis c K's recent stand up shows at the Beacon Theaters.

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<v Speaker 2>Zenneman's lovingly crafted prose describes in detailed the current evolution

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<v Speaker 2>of Louis's career. See Jason is concerned that too few

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<v Speaker 2>people know that Louis still a great comedian. This concern

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<v Speaker 2>seems particularly bizarre and unfounded because Louis in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of a comedy tour that's mostly sold out. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>like Louis playing small clubs. Louis playing at the kind

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<v Speaker 2>of venues you play when you're a super successful touring act.

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<v Speaker 2>But you don't want to play the enormo done in

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<v Speaker 2>the town, so instead you play a bunch of shows

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<v Speaker 2>at the giant theater in town. In other words, Louis

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<v Speaker 2>is literally living the stand up comedian dream. Louis doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>need Zinnemen's helps writing his word, but Zinnamann does it anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Why again, I'll let Jasus speak for himself as an

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<v Speaker 2>observer here. I think Jason went to Louis ck show

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<v Speaker 2>during the New York Comedy Festival and thought the stand

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<v Speaker 2>up was good, and he wrote about it, because that's

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<v Speaker 2>what he does. Bell, quoting Zinnamon Zinnaman writing, in the

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<v Speaker 2>seven years since c K admitted to sexual misconduct, the

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<v Speaker 2>comedian has produced four different hours of comedy. It's a large,

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<v Speaker 2>under examined, formally audacious body of work that represents a

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<v Speaker 2>break from the past, but also continuity. Bell writes, under examined, mister, Zinnamon, A,

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<v Speaker 2>you're trying to make us feel bad for not keeping

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<v Speaker 2>up with Louis c K's work after his admission, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera. Are you saying that CK's work is somehow

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<v Speaker 2>so good it'll make us forget that he did the

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<v Speaker 2>thing he did, et cetera, et cetera. Louis c K

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't own anything from the public. His work isn't under examined.

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<v Speaker 2>It is utterly discarded by the audience who thought he

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<v Speaker 2>could trust him. Interesting. I mean yes to all this.

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<v Speaker 2>I see what Belle saying. I think Jason Zinaman went

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<v Speaker 2>to a show and is also pointing out CK has

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<v Speaker 2>put out a bunch of things that people haven't seen.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if we want to nitpick the word under examined,

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<v Speaker 2>especially the examined part of it, I mean, sure, here

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<v Speaker 2>in the basement where I have no boiler, I'd just

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<v Speaker 2>like a good comedy fight a lot more from Camel

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<v Speaker 2>Bell on his substack. If you want to check that out.

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<v Speaker 2>If you listen to yesterday show, I told you Vulture

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<v Speaker 2>has Night Thoughts as their number one comedy special of

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<v Speaker 2>the year. There's now a trailer for it. Based on

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<v Speaker 2>this trailer, I don't see how this is possibly the

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<v Speaker 2>number one special of the year. But again I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>seen it. But this is a year in which Mark

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<v Speaker 2>Marin's special came out, and I don't see how this

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be better than that. So let's listen

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<v Speaker 2>to the trailer.

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<v Speaker 4>Watching your movie made me want to get therapy. Oh

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<v Speaker 4>that's good, that's clever. Do not get weird about the muscles.

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<v Speaker 4>These muscles can't hurt you. These muscles are decorative. Never

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<v Speaker 4>been in a fight for because I'm super good at apologizing.

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<v Speaker 2>I am an immigrant. Are there any other immigrants here? Okay?

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<v Speaker 4>What you can't do is point at someone else. I

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<v Speaker 4>thought I was happy, and then every now and then I'd.

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<v Speaker 2>Get very angry out of nowhere.

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<v Speaker 4>I watched Bananas in the stake.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyone remember what it was like buying marijuana before it

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<v Speaker 3>was legal.

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<v Speaker 4>You had to go to a guy's house, pretend to

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<v Speaker 4>be friends with a guy.

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<v Speaker 3>You had to like, watch a little bit of the

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<v Speaker 3>Matrix with him. You guys get night thoughts when you're

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<v Speaker 3>laying in bed in the middle of the night and

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<v Speaker 3>you can't sleep, and your brain's like, here's something new

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<v Speaker 3>for you.

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<v Speaker 4>To worry about, or.

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<v Speaker 2>You hadn't thought of that. It's because you're a little

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<v Speaker 4>Night thoughts are like day thoughts, except they hate you.

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<v Speaker 4>White people, there's more.

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<v Speaker 2>to be fair, my friend Larry the Cable Guy does

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<v Speaker 2>at trivia night, I'm not like Glenn, would you like

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<v Speaker 2>My normal speaking voice would be something like that, like Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>So this is a performance, and I'm up in my

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I'm being unfair. But in Kisha Curius, here is

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<v Speaker 1>You know, well, I did stuff that should have been

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<v Speaker 2>of the year. It comes out December nineteenth. It won't

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<v Speaker 2>I did record the Billboard Top twenty five. The rest

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<v Speaker 2>after Christmas. I could take a couple days off, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>on December twenty ninth, how are we doing on time?

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<v Speaker 2>the eight hundred Pound Gorilla Rosie Jones triple Threat. On

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<v Speaker 2>the Joe Rogan Podcast, Joe Rogan called President Trump a

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<v Speaker 2>kid and revealed President Trump's text habits. Rogan said, he

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<v Speaker 2>will have a new show set to debut in March

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<v Speaker 2>at the Melbourne Comedy Festival. The Evening Muse is described

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<v Speaker 2>to be like a Tonight Show, but hosted by Hannah Gatsby,

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<v Speaker 2>so it isn't anything like you'd expect. The Melbourne Comedy

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<v Speaker 2>Festival runs from March twenty fifth through April nineteenth. Always

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<v Speaker 2>fun to cover here in the basement. One of these

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<v Speaker 2>years I will have to go Love Melbourne. Melbourne is

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<v Speaker 2>Big Four to Oh, celebrating the milestone, bringing together standout

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<v Speaker 2>four decades. A bunch of local legends will be there.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you would recognize any of these names

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<v Speaker 2>unless you're, like, you know, extremely into Ozzie comedy. International

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<v Speaker 2>Luke McQueen, Phil Wang, He's Great, Scotland's Connor Burns, Daniel

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<v Speaker 2>From the US, Sam Jay, Abby Govinan and Zana Johnson.

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<v Speaker 2>coming up. Patton Oswald who's out there ruining Star Trek

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<v Speaker 2>President has done nothing about this. I mean, the President

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<v Speaker 2>is nothing but disappointing me today. Mister President, please make

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<v Speaker 2>Star Trek great again? Have you seen the teaser art

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<v Speaker 2>for Starfleet Academy, Mister President? Holy cow? I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>just want to say words that sound a lot like

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus that have a JC in it, But you know

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<v Speaker 2>poster awful. And Paton Oswald has Dug the Vulcan ruining

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<v Speaker 2>I like the rewards, but the rewards are only fun

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<v Speaker 2>if you got it. It's almost like getting away with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I got all the success from making things up from

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<v Speaker 2>thin air. There's something beautiful about that, getting to sit

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<v Speaker 2>It'll never get old for me. I've always set them

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<v Speaker 2>and showed this for the money and the anecdotes. I

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<v Speaker 2>want some really amazing stories, and when every part of

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<v Speaker 2>every corner of it. It changes you when you experience

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<v Speaker 2>Been meaning to get this one in. He was on

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<v Speaker 2>social media talking about Mumbai's worsening air quality. He said

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<v Speaker 2>this is what's happening inside you. Apparently Mumbai's air quality

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<v Speaker 2>index has now touched the severe category. That's your comedy

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<v Speaker 2>news for today. All right back around noon Eastern with

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<v Speaker 2>the Comedy Survivors Selection Show. While I'm recording, I'm arguing

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<v Speaker 2>with the AI to make new artwork. It has made artwork.

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<v Speaker 2>podcast group. But I'm like, can you revise it? And

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<v Speaker 2>was before I discovered the policy. All right, well this

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<v Speaker 2>is a parody. Can you do it? And just it's

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<v Speaker 2>except not about Star Trek. All Right, bye,