WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:02.960 That time time to make a change. Oh my god, 2 00:00:03.040 --> 00:00:05.559 you're listening to Truth Towns out corner. It wasn't need 3 00:00:05.599 --> 00:00:07.839 to turn out, Doc, you are in studio today. 4 00:00:08.240 --> 00:00:10.759 I'm in this consecrated place. 5 00:00:11.039 --> 00:00:15.720 This is Davis's place KB l A fifteen eighty, the 6 00:00:15.839 --> 00:00:19.760 Joccoline's side of Los Angeles with all these wonderful ones. 7 00:00:20.399 --> 00:00:23.519 I'm looking at mind, I'm looking at brother Mohammed for 8 00:00:23.760 --> 00:00:26.760 Rocke and Tavis. And we got the one and only 9 00:00:26.879 --> 00:00:33.119 Jesse Jackson Junior in the house with his magnificent companion 10 00:00:33.320 --> 00:00:35.119 sister Jane Jenny. 11 00:00:35.479 --> 00:00:39.200 So that we uh we we find out. Let me 12 00:00:39.240 --> 00:00:39.920 put it that way. 13 00:00:40.359 --> 00:00:42.719 I know you guys got a big event going on tonight. 14 00:00:42.880 --> 00:00:45.000 Kind I'm kind of feeling left out of the party, Doc. 15 00:00:45.119 --> 00:00:51.600 I want you here, you ship in spirit and spear it. 16 00:00:51.880 --> 00:00:55.640 Oh my god. Well, it's gonna be a wonderful, tremendous 17 00:00:55.920 --> 00:01:01.240 four year anniversary celebration wrapping in June teeth. So if 18 00:01:01.280 --> 00:01:04.680 you are in the LA area, you do not want 19 00:01:04.719 --> 00:01:08.959 to miss this. Please please please register. Doc understand that 20 00:01:09.120 --> 00:01:12.560 climate discussions are going to be happening at the same time, 21 00:01:13.040 --> 00:01:17.879 as well as collecting gift cards to be passed out 22 00:01:17.959 --> 00:01:21.519 or to be given to to support the families of 23 00:01:21.560 --> 00:01:22.760 the Altadena fire. 24 00:01:22.959 --> 00:01:25.719 It is never ever, no amount is too small. 25 00:01:26.280 --> 00:01:29.599 Please make sure if you're coming to participate in the celebration, 26 00:01:29.680 --> 00:01:31.560 if you got a little bit of something to spare, 27 00:01:32.079 --> 00:01:35.599 please share it with the families of Alta, Dina. And 28 00:01:35.680 --> 00:01:39.480 that is what makes KBLA Talk fifteen eighty so special 29 00:01:40.040 --> 00:01:44.799 because Tavis Smiley, mister Smiley, the CEO, the president, he 30 00:01:44.920 --> 00:01:47.719 always make sure that the community is taken care of 31 00:01:47.799 --> 00:01:48.239 as well. 32 00:01:48.280 --> 00:01:50.519 Dot that's exactly right. 33 00:01:50.560 --> 00:01:53.239 I mean, he's able to always bring together the spiritual 34 00:01:53.280 --> 00:01:56.760 and the social or political and the personal, the economics 35 00:01:57.200 --> 00:01:59.840 es eistential, keeping love and justice at the center of it, 36 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:09.840 but also beauty, humor, style and irreducible smile. 37 00:02:12.719 --> 00:02:16.960 That part, and how blessed y'all are, blessed, blessed, blessed 38 00:02:17.000 --> 00:02:19.560 to have all that power in one place, all that 39 00:02:19.680 --> 00:02:23.759 consciousness in one place. And speaking of consciousness, doctor, we 40 00:02:23.840 --> 00:02:25.360 got to continue our conversation. 41 00:02:25.520 --> 00:02:27.639 You know, things are still grewing up about this war. 42 00:02:28.199 --> 00:02:31.840 There's some bipartisanship with purpose happening right now, which we 43 00:02:31.960 --> 00:02:35.599 love to see it. We know our very own John Nichols, 44 00:02:35.599 --> 00:02:39.159 who's a contributor to The Tavis Smiley Show, wrote an 45 00:02:39.199 --> 00:02:43.800 epic and beautiful piece. Well, he always writes magnificant, magnificant, 46 00:02:44.000 --> 00:02:47.439 magnificent lea, so maybe epic is all the time for 47 00:02:48.080 --> 00:02:51.240 brother John Nichols. But he wrote an article titled the 48 00:02:51.360 --> 00:02:55.400 US should not support Israel's war on Iran, says Democrats 49 00:02:55.479 --> 00:02:59.599 and Republicans, which we know is rare doctor have bipartisanship 50 00:02:59.639 --> 00:03:04.319 with ubstance, And then you know, America is at a turney, 51 00:03:04.680 --> 00:03:08.199 at a terrifying turning point, and there's no going back 52 00:03:08.280 --> 00:03:11.840 this article in the New Republic that you know it's 53 00:03:11.879 --> 00:03:15.960 been even though today mark ten years since you know, 54 00:03:16.039 --> 00:03:18.960 the tragedy, or we'll talk about that. But then you 55 00:03:19.000 --> 00:03:21.479 and I we talked about Mother Emanuel just kind of 56 00:03:21.520 --> 00:03:24.840 briefly yesterday. And there's an article that really lays out 57 00:03:24.840 --> 00:03:27.520 a point that you made, Doc, which is black people 58 00:03:27.560 --> 00:03:30.199 tend to focus so much on forgiveness. And there are 59 00:03:30.240 --> 00:03:35.759 some residents in Charleston, South Carolina who are basically saying 60 00:03:36.400 --> 00:03:39.319 they focus so much on forgiveness that a real hate 61 00:03:39.319 --> 00:03:40.680 crime bill has not passed. 62 00:03:43.479 --> 00:03:47.000 Yeah, you can never allow the status quote to use 63 00:03:47.120 --> 00:03:53.319 your rich spirituality to Trump and trunk Kate. Your need 64 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:58.319 for public policy, yeah, you need both. You don't want 65 00:03:58.319 --> 00:04:01.560 people to reduce the love and soul to just revenge. 66 00:04:01.680 --> 00:04:04.159 But on the other hand, you got to have public policy, 67 00:04:04.240 --> 00:04:06.520 you got to have a change in laws, and you 68 00:04:06.599 --> 00:04:10.719 got to have a fundamental transformation in the system, in 69 00:04:10.759 --> 00:04:12.000 the system itself. 70 00:04:12.080 --> 00:04:13.400 And I think that's one of the. 71 00:04:13.319 --> 00:04:17.079 Things that we have been blessed to always talk about 72 00:04:17.160 --> 00:04:20.680 on Truth Time that in the end, we're not just 73 00:04:20.759 --> 00:04:25.360 talking about personalities. We're talking about systems. We're talking about 74 00:04:25.399 --> 00:04:30.519 structures of domination. You're talking about forms of power that 75 00:04:31.759 --> 00:04:36.160 or work through institutions that shape people. And that's why 76 00:04:36.199 --> 00:04:40.839 you need collective action. That's why you need solidarity that 77 00:04:41.000 --> 00:04:44.040 connects us to what's going on in Gods or in 78 00:04:44.199 --> 00:04:51.079 South Africa, in Sudan, in Gualemala, in Haiti, in Jamaica. 79 00:04:51.120 --> 00:04:56.600 In Los Angeles, in Harlem, New York. 80 00:04:57.079 --> 00:04:59.600 Now, of course I want to send a strong shout 81 00:04:59.600 --> 00:05:02.480 out to my big level that wife and I heat 82 00:05:02.560 --> 00:05:05.240 that right there in hallm She's in New York, I'm 83 00:05:05.279 --> 00:05:08.000 here in l A And of course she's got precious 84 00:05:08.439 --> 00:05:12.240 relatives in Iran and were pulling in praying and hoping 85 00:05:12.279 --> 00:05:17.800 that none of those vicious bombs drop on any one 86 00:05:17.839 --> 00:05:20.480 of her relatives. And of course we were concerned about 87 00:05:20.680 --> 00:05:24.079 missiles dropping on any human beings. But family is a 88 00:05:24.199 --> 00:05:27.959 very very special thing, and that it's something that you 89 00:05:28.079 --> 00:05:30.120 always have a special focus. 90 00:05:29.759 --> 00:05:32.560 On, no doubt about. A charity does start at home 91 00:05:32.600 --> 00:05:35.240 and spread abroad. So there's nothing wrong with saying my 92 00:05:35.360 --> 00:05:39.240 family and your family too. That's how we roll it 93 00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:41.279 and listening to the truth toil with doctor cornell Us and 94 00:05:41.360 --> 00:05:44.800 Nina Turner. When we come forward, we'll continue our conversation 95 00:05:44.959 --> 00:05:47.639 about this brewing war, whether or not the United States 96 00:05:47.639 --> 00:05:50.480 should get in it, whether or not Congress showing up 97 00:05:50.519 --> 00:05:54.439 finally because they've abjucated their responsibility to be a coequal 98 00:05:54.480 --> 00:05:56.879 branch of government for far too long, whether or not 99 00:05:56.920 --> 00:05:59.920 it means anything, and what about the fact that families 100 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:03.480 saying that South Carolina focused so much on forgiveness that 101 00:06:03.519 --> 00:06:05.879 they didn't get to the hate crime law. 102 00:06:06.519 --> 00:06:10.079 When we come forward, we trued ourselves first, proposed to 103 00:06:10.120 --> 00:06:10.759 be true to. 104 00:06:10.839 --> 00:06:13.560 Anybody else sact, and we were coming forward, we were 105 00:06:13.600 --> 00:06:17.600 talking about, you know, this impending war, whether or not 106 00:06:17.600 --> 00:06:19.680 the United States is gonna jump in fro a frontal 107 00:06:20.040 --> 00:06:22.439 whether or not President Donald J. Trump is going to 108 00:06:22.879 --> 00:06:28.439 try to usurp the authority of the Congress. I'm glad 109 00:06:28.480 --> 00:06:31.639 to see some Congress members really fighting back, and there 110 00:06:31.680 --> 00:06:34.480 are people out there making it known that, especially if 111 00:06:34.519 --> 00:06:38.480 there's any Democrat that is seeking to run for president 112 00:06:38.560 --> 00:06:41.360 in twenty twenty eight, if they have not spoken out 113 00:06:41.399 --> 00:06:46.040 about this impending American jumping into this America jumping into 114 00:06:46.040 --> 00:06:49.560 this war, that that basically they not worthy to run 115 00:06:49.639 --> 00:06:51.480 or to be considered. They can run all they want, 116 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:53.959 but they shouldn't be considered. And my god, do I 117 00:06:54.000 --> 00:06:56.360 agree with that. I want to rap back around the 118 00:06:56.399 --> 00:06:59.040 doctor Anahita real quick. You know, she did send us 119 00:06:59.680 --> 00:07:03.000 a kind of geographic breakdown of Iran. You know, many 120 00:07:03.040 --> 00:07:07.079 people have never been there. The closest I'm probably ever 121 00:07:07.120 --> 00:07:10.680 gonna get is through somebody like doctor Anahita and others 122 00:07:10.720 --> 00:07:13.360 that I know who have relatives from that country. But 123 00:07:14.360 --> 00:07:17.040 landed out that it is a multi ethnic population of 124 00:07:17.079 --> 00:07:22.160 over ninety two million people, and that it ranks seventeenth 125 00:07:22.240 --> 00:07:27.399 globally in both geographic size and population, and it is 126 00:07:27.439 --> 00:07:31.279 the sixth largest country and one of the world's most 127 00:07:31.439 --> 00:07:36.399 mountainous countries with thirty one provinces and Tehran is the 128 00:07:36.480 --> 00:07:40.120 capital and largest city. Iran hosts one of the largest 129 00:07:40.160 --> 00:07:42.759 refuge and I think a lot of people either didn't 130 00:07:42.800 --> 00:07:45.360 know this or forgot. I know I had forgotten, but 131 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:52.319 Iran hosts one of the largest refugee populations with almost 132 00:07:52.360 --> 00:07:59.160 one million, mostly from Afghanistan, Iraq and Iraq in Iraq, 133 00:07:59.240 --> 00:08:03.879 So I mean, wow, no. 134 00:08:04.160 --> 00:08:08.240 That's that's that's a huge country with a very rich history, 135 00:08:08.519 --> 00:08:12.800 of course, going back to Persian uh civilization, which is 136 00:08:12.800 --> 00:08:16.759 one of the great civilizations, very much like Egypt, very 137 00:08:16.839 --> 00:08:21.759 much like Greece, very much like India and so forth. 138 00:08:22.680 --> 00:08:25.680 So they're they're not people to play with now. They 139 00:08:25.680 --> 00:08:28.160 have their own structures of domination, you know. And he 140 00:08:28.279 --> 00:08:31.519 didn't understand in deep solidarity with the woman like Free 141 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:35.120 Them movement, where the Molas there in Iran have been 142 00:08:35.519 --> 00:08:39.399 subjecting them to domination. But no nation has the right 143 00:08:39.440 --> 00:08:42.919 to violate the sovereignty, security and integrity of another nation. 144 00:08:43.039 --> 00:08:47.000 That's what an invasion is. And when you drop bombs 145 00:08:47.039 --> 00:08:50.919 on other people's land and killing other people, that is 146 00:08:50.960 --> 00:08:55.600 a violation of their sovereignty. So they would each nation 147 00:08:55.799 --> 00:08:59.519 saying it has a right to exist. Every nation, every 148 00:08:59.639 --> 00:09:03.559 people have a right to exist, just not certain peoples. 149 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:06.039 You see what I mean. And we've seen this two 150 00:09:06.120 --> 00:09:09.799 thousand and three with Iraq. Have we seen evidence of 151 00:09:10.080 --> 00:09:14.000 a war a weapon of destruction? Have we seen evidence 152 00:09:14.240 --> 00:09:15.759 of a nuclear bomb? 153 00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:20.039 No, not at all. Just those nine countries that we 154 00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:25.679 talked about before in the whole world have nuclear weapons. 155 00:09:25.919 --> 00:09:28.840 North Korea has fewer than anybody else with fifty, Israel 156 00:09:28.919 --> 00:09:31.919 got ninety, never admits it, no US president will admit it. 157 00:09:32.200 --> 00:09:34.200 And then you got the other. 158 00:09:34.279 --> 00:09:40.559 Seven Pakistan, India, Germany, France, England, Russia has more than 159 00:09:40.559 --> 00:09:43.480 anybody and we are second twelve thousand. 160 00:09:43.159 --> 00:09:43.720 In the world. 161 00:09:43.960 --> 00:09:46.440 We need to eliminate all of them in the name 162 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:49.120 of Jesus, eliminade each and every one of them. But 163 00:09:49.240 --> 00:09:53.200 if we can't, then the question becomes what are the 164 00:09:53.240 --> 00:09:58.840 conditions under which people even talk about nuclear weapons and 165 00:09:59.000 --> 00:10:03.039 going to get nuclear weapons? And how did South Africa 166 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:08.240 get its nuclear weapons under apartheid, under the most vicious 167 00:10:08.279 --> 00:10:13.279 barbaric system, treating black people like we less than human. Well, 168 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:17.600 they got a lot of cooperation from other nations, including Israel. 169 00:10:17.639 --> 00:10:18.720 Why they is so interesting? 170 00:10:19.159 --> 00:10:22.039 Making sure they had a weapon, but Iran can't have 171 00:10:22.080 --> 00:10:27.120 a weapon. Oh but South African drop it on us 172 00:10:27.240 --> 00:10:30.840 on black people. Yeah, Iran, they think want to drop 173 00:10:30.879 --> 00:10:36.919 it on Jews. Both of those options barbaric. But it's 174 00:10:36.960 --> 00:10:42.200 also barbaric to facilitate genocide. It's barbaric to engage in 175 00:10:42.240 --> 00:10:47.159 ethnic cleansing. It's barbaric to invade and violate other people's 176 00:10:47.240 --> 00:10:48.120 sovereign tee. 177 00:10:48.360 --> 00:10:51.039 We have to be morally consistent. 178 00:10:52.960 --> 00:10:55.679 That's it. That's that's that's those are the words for today. 179 00:10:55.759 --> 00:10:59.639 Moral consistent. Cy say that fifty times. 180 00:10:59.720 --> 00:11:01.159 Really fast, you know. 181 00:11:01.679 --> 00:11:03.879 And what you know, my grandma, if she were allowed, 182 00:11:03.919 --> 00:11:05.759 she would say more more nerve than the brass a 183 00:11:05.919 --> 00:11:09.440 monkey which reports out of Israel. I don't know if 184 00:11:09.440 --> 00:11:12.159 it was Yahoo who said it or one of the 185 00:11:12.200 --> 00:11:15.639 people in his leadership team that said that, I ran 186 00:11:16.080 --> 00:11:21.600 across the red line. And I'm thinking to myself, wow, wow, 187 00:11:21.720 --> 00:11:23.799 So I ran across the red line. But you guys 188 00:11:23.840 --> 00:11:25.960 haven't crossed the red line. And what you're doing to 189 00:11:26.000 --> 00:11:29.240 the Palestinians and got that is not. 190 00:11:29.159 --> 00:11:33.240 A red line. Ethnic clinic not a red line. Right then, 191 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:35.000 occupation is not a red line. 192 00:11:35.360 --> 00:11:38.480 Come on, come, But I ran oh, they crossed the 193 00:11:38.519 --> 00:11:38.960 red line. 194 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:40.320 I'm just taking lord. 195 00:11:40.399 --> 00:11:42.159 But the thing is, I mean, you know, but they 196 00:11:42.519 --> 00:11:46.000 we have to always be mindful of the charge of 197 00:11:46.039 --> 00:11:49.120 being anti Semites, and we say no, no, no, no, 198 00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:55.120 anti Jewish is just as evil and sick as anti 199 00:11:55.360 --> 00:11:59.720 black hatred, anti Jewish hatred, anti black hatred, anti white hatred, 200 00:11:59.799 --> 00:12:03.919 and that indigenous people's hatred. All of those are species 201 00:12:04.399 --> 00:12:07.639 of spiritual sickness and moral pathology. 202 00:12:08.039 --> 00:12:10.919 But we're going to be morally consistent. 203 00:12:11.639 --> 00:12:14.480 So we're not going to close our eyes to the 204 00:12:14.519 --> 00:12:18.879 gangster activity of Nathan Yahoo. Are close our eyes to 205 00:12:19.000 --> 00:12:22.120 the kind of tear and trauma that the idea has 206 00:12:22.159 --> 00:12:26.279 been inflicting on Palestinians and now extending it to the 207 00:12:26.320 --> 00:12:30.960 Iranians already in the past with Lebanese and Syrians. How 208 00:12:31.000 --> 00:12:34.399 do we come up with a world where moral consistency 209 00:12:34.480 --> 00:12:35.039 can get a. 210 00:12:35.080 --> 00:12:39.360 Footho right and and any type of hatred is wrong, 211 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:44.759 so absolutely, and we got to continuously reinforce that because 212 00:12:44.799 --> 00:12:49.639 there are some who are just really conflating what anti 213 00:12:49.639 --> 00:12:52.000 Semitism really is. 214 00:12:52.159 --> 00:12:53.759 And that's hurtful too. 215 00:12:53.799 --> 00:12:57.480 And you have we have Jewish colleagues who believe what 216 00:12:57.600 --> 00:13:00.519 we believe that some of these folks are going too 217 00:13:00.600 --> 00:13:05.000 far anti Semitism, anti blackness, you know, just hating and 218 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:08.559 wanting to put violence on people. Because it's one thing 219 00:13:08.559 --> 00:13:10.960 to hate. I mean, you could hate and take no action. 220 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:14.440 But if your hatred leads you to action that injures 221 00:13:14.480 --> 00:13:18.320 other people that's right and or their property, you know 222 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:21.720 you are wrong. So yeah, that we are always morally consistent. 223 00:13:21.759 --> 00:13:24.600 We called out October to seventh. It was wrong when 224 00:13:24.639 --> 00:13:28.879 it happened, is wrong now to kill any innocence. No, 225 00:13:29.080 --> 00:13:31.120 that ain't how we're supposed to be rolling in this world. 226 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:34.279 And it's not a butt, it's an end. And that 227 00:13:34.480 --> 00:13:38.159 same love and justice that we are pushing forward for 228 00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:41.399 our Israeli sisters and brothers and family and friends, it's 229 00:13:41.440 --> 00:13:44.159 the same love and justice we put forward for our 230 00:13:44.200 --> 00:13:46.720 Palestinian sisters. I mean, I think this is easy. That 231 00:13:46.879 --> 00:13:50.080 was complicated. I know what's complicated about that? 232 00:13:50.120 --> 00:13:53.039 You didn't get so easily distorted Because it constitutes a 233 00:13:53.120 --> 00:13:55.840 threat to the status quo, That's what it is. But 234 00:13:56.919 --> 00:13:59.799 not saying a mumbling word about mass incarceration, not saying 235 00:13:59.799 --> 00:14:02.840 the mumbling worried about police brutality and police murder against 236 00:14:02.879 --> 00:14:06.399 black people and against venerable people, not saying the mumbling 237 00:14:06.440 --> 00:14:09.200 worried about poverty, but all of a sudden want to 238 00:14:09.200 --> 00:14:12.480 get on the moral high ground and call for anti 239 00:14:12.480 --> 00:14:16.559 Semitic simply because you're defending the humanity of Palestinians and 240 00:14:17.200 --> 00:14:18.279 also Iranians. 241 00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:20.879 Just make it make sense, Doc, And as you know, 242 00:14:20.919 --> 00:14:23.639 I mean, you and doctor Anahita have been on this 243 00:14:23.759 --> 00:14:26.600 journey with me for a while. I mean, I this 244 00:14:26.799 --> 00:14:30.200 was way before October seventh, and I'm just like still 245 00:14:30.279 --> 00:14:34.320 hurting my soul that for political reasons people would come 246 00:14:34.360 --> 00:14:37.120 at me some you know, on the zion In side. 247 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:41.240 Let me be very clear here, because I have lots 248 00:14:41.240 --> 00:14:45.159 of Jewish colleagues and friends and people who support my leadership, 249 00:14:45.600 --> 00:14:48.480 but doct you know they called me everything but a 250 00:14:48.600 --> 00:14:51.279 child of God, and its just it's just painful because 251 00:14:51.320 --> 00:14:54.799 as a as a state senator, you know, I had 252 00:14:55.039 --> 00:14:57.759 one of the largest Jewish populations, well, I had the 253 00:14:57.879 --> 00:15:02.159 largest Jewish population in my senate history in the state 254 00:15:02.200 --> 00:15:05.120 of Ohio, and served all of my constituents no matter 255 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:09.200 what their backgrounds were, honorably. And to have people to 256 00:15:09.200 --> 00:15:13.120 be able to weaponize that against well, against me, you know, 257 00:15:13.200 --> 00:15:17.279 and I had never said, never said an anti Semitic 258 00:15:17.320 --> 00:15:19.159 thing in my life. 259 00:15:19.200 --> 00:15:22.519 But wow, we were in Cleveland. 260 00:15:22.600 --> 00:15:24.480 Remember we went to the fair that day. 261 00:15:24.559 --> 00:15:24.919 Yeah? 262 00:15:25.240 --> 00:15:28.399 Yeah, and hit that we went to the fair that day. 263 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:28.639 Yeah. 264 00:15:28.919 --> 00:15:31.879 Ooh that was a powerful Now you had a number 265 00:15:31.960 --> 00:15:36.320 of magnificent Jewish brothers and sisters hugging you and hugging us. 266 00:15:36.399 --> 00:15:40.480 Why because it's a human choice. It ain't no ethnic affair. 267 00:15:40.559 --> 00:15:44.360 This ain't no matter of color. The human choice. You're 268 00:15:44.480 --> 00:15:48.200 for justice or you're not for justice. There's ways of 269 00:15:48.279 --> 00:15:51.919 understanding justice and complicated waste. But you're taking a moral stand. 270 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:54.320 That's a choice. It's a decision, it's a commitment, it's 271 00:15:54.360 --> 00:15:54.960 a conviction. 272 00:15:55.919 --> 00:15:56.240 Yeah. 273 00:15:56.320 --> 00:15:58.639 And I mean this was twenty twenty one, family, So 274 00:15:58.679 --> 00:16:01.039 I just want them to know this was way. 275 00:16:00.600 --> 00:16:04.120 Before October seven. It just blew up, you know. 276 00:16:04.840 --> 00:16:07.200 And I want to shout out in this moment Jewish 277 00:16:07.240 --> 00:16:11.240 voices for peace, both nationally and also in Cleveland. When 278 00:16:11.279 --> 00:16:13.559 I tell you, Jewish Voices for Peace had my back 279 00:16:13.679 --> 00:16:16.919 end some of the fiercest ways possible, along with the 280 00:16:16.960 --> 00:16:22.200 other coalition of black people, of white people, of air Premier. 281 00:16:22.279 --> 00:16:25.360 You know, all the whole you and I draw from the. 282 00:16:25.480 --> 00:16:29.440 Entire mosaic of humanity. And that's the beautiful thing about 283 00:16:29.440 --> 00:16:33.519 our leadership. But when people try to malign you like that, boy, 284 00:16:33.559 --> 00:16:36.320 that's that's that's just something you know. 285 00:16:37.200 --> 00:16:39.440 No, that's real, it's real. 286 00:16:39.960 --> 00:16:40.519 It's real. 287 00:16:40.679 --> 00:16:45.000 So we have a Congress, some members of Congress who 288 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:47.399 are fighting back and fighting back hard. And I want 289 00:16:47.399 --> 00:16:49.440 to add to something. I don't think it's just us 290 00:16:49.600 --> 00:16:52.360 how we judge who might run in twenty twenty eight. 291 00:16:52.799 --> 00:16:55.600 On the Democratic side, we need to hold all elected 292 00:16:55.639 --> 00:16:58.960 officials accountable. I know why our dear brother, who is 293 00:16:59.000 --> 00:17:05.200 a foreign he was a foreign policy analyst for advisor 294 00:17:05.400 --> 00:17:09.319 for Senator Sanders, and he's Jewish himself. I know exactly 295 00:17:09.359 --> 00:17:11.799 why he called out Democrats because they got to be 296 00:17:11.839 --> 00:17:16.319 called out extra special. And I am one with with 297 00:17:16.319 --> 00:17:19.319 with with with Matt on that, and I just want 298 00:17:19.359 --> 00:17:22.640 to add to that. I would say that any current 299 00:17:22.839 --> 00:17:26.200 elected official, especially on the federal level, that does not 300 00:17:26.400 --> 00:17:32.640 stand with Congressman Rocanna, with Congressmen Massey on the other side, 301 00:17:32.720 --> 00:17:36.960 one of the conservative conservatives, and in the resolution that 302 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:39.839 they just introduced, no, you you just not You're not 303 00:17:39.920 --> 00:17:41.960 worthy of of getting anybody's vote. 304 00:17:41.960 --> 00:17:44.079 In twenty twenty eight shouldn't even consider you. 305 00:17:45.079 --> 00:17:47.160 I think one of the consequence is going to be 306 00:17:47.319 --> 00:17:49.039 that more and more. 307 00:17:48.880 --> 00:17:51.400 People will see as they'd all read said the other 308 00:17:51.519 --> 00:17:54.200 day in dialogue with I dear brother Tabis Smiley. 309 00:17:54.279 --> 00:17:55.599 That was such a rich dialogue. 310 00:17:55.599 --> 00:17:59.480 But all the tables, all of them got tell you, 311 00:17:59.799 --> 00:18:01.839 he said, to really, class got two parties? 312 00:18:01.839 --> 00:18:03.240 How come we can't have one? 313 00:18:03.960 --> 00:18:08.160 I know that's right. I love somebody. 314 00:18:09.559 --> 00:18:11.960 Made that point with brother Adolf, and it hit me 315 00:18:12.119 --> 00:18:14.799 very hard. That's a powerful way of pudding that is. 316 00:18:14.839 --> 00:18:15.240 I love that. 317 00:18:15.279 --> 00:18:17.240 I'm gonna have to quote him every time I use it. 318 00:18:19.119 --> 00:18:23.799 I'm loving that so very much. We have our dear 319 00:18:23.880 --> 00:18:28.000 brother John Nichols, who wrote this wonderful article. John Nichols 320 00:18:28.160 --> 00:18:31.359 is a contributor to the Tavis Smiley Show, very much 321 00:18:31.400 --> 00:18:32.839 a part of our family. 322 00:18:32.880 --> 00:18:33.720 He's laying out in. 323 00:18:33.680 --> 00:18:36.720 His article in The Nation magazine about how members of 324 00:18:36.799 --> 00:18:39.440 Congress who are coming together on both sides of the 325 00:18:39.480 --> 00:18:42.640 hour to try to reclaim the authority that the Constitution 326 00:18:42.839 --> 00:18:45.599 gives them, but that this president and his administration is 327 00:18:45.599 --> 00:18:48.200 trying to pretend like the judiciary. 328 00:18:47.599 --> 00:18:49.440 And the legislative branch does not exist. 329 00:18:49.960 --> 00:18:54.839 Contrary to the Constitution, and John is laying out how 330 00:18:55.240 --> 00:18:58.759 you have members all across the spectrum who are standing 331 00:18:58.799 --> 00:19:01.119 up number one to say this is not our war. 332 00:19:01.519 --> 00:19:05.200 And number two, even if it were, mister president, you 333 00:19:05.359 --> 00:19:09.720 just can't arbitrarily declared that you're gonna send troops into 334 00:19:09.920 --> 00:19:13.160 harm's way. So we're gonna see, we're gonna be watching 335 00:19:13.160 --> 00:19:15.720 this very strongly. Please make sure you go and read 336 00:19:16.200 --> 00:19:20.000 John nichols magnificent articles. He's always good at taking complex 337 00:19:20.079 --> 00:19:21.599 issues and breaking them. 338 00:19:21.440 --> 00:19:24.000 Down, down, down, down down. We love John Nichols. 339 00:19:24.240 --> 00:19:26.599 You're listening the truth time, but doctor Cornell was and 340 00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:29.160 Nina Turner. When we come forward, we're gonna talk about 341 00:19:29.440 --> 00:19:34.279 South Carolina forgiveness and policy. They go together, but so 342 00:19:34.400 --> 00:19:38.079 far only forgiveness and no public policy. 343 00:19:38.640 --> 00:19:39.200 Oh Doc. 344 00:19:39.319 --> 00:19:41.880 Before we get to our folks who have made comments 345 00:19:42.000 --> 00:19:44.839 on our YouTube chat, I just want to read a 346 00:19:44.960 --> 00:19:48.839 portion from John nichols article. So he's talking about what's 347 00:19:48.839 --> 00:19:51.160 happening in the House and how people are signing on 348 00:19:51.960 --> 00:19:54.359 to the to the bill in the House. But then 349 00:19:54.480 --> 00:19:58.079 Senator Sanders, who you and I again was withining his 350 00:19:58.200 --> 00:20:02.000 both his runs for president. On Monday evening, Sanders introducing 351 00:20:02.079 --> 00:20:06.759 no War against Iran at Iran Act, Doctor Hannay, he 352 00:20:06.920 --> 00:20:09.119 is in the chat making it known with love that 353 00:20:09.240 --> 00:20:11.519 since the turner is mispronouncing. 354 00:20:11.359 --> 00:20:16.440 So it's Iran and not this American way. 355 00:20:16.599 --> 00:20:20.079 And I love Iran and Iran. 356 00:20:20.000 --> 00:20:23.680 Ran, but you know I mean in American that eye 357 00:20:23.720 --> 00:20:27.400 and you know what I mean. I mean, Hey, I 358 00:20:27.480 --> 00:20:30.799 love she put the harps by it too. You don't 359 00:20:31.039 --> 00:20:38.559 correct myself? No War against Iran. 360 00:20:39.480 --> 00:20:42.359 Act in the Senate with a statement that referenced the 361 00:20:42.440 --> 00:20:48.640 oft neglected constitutional requirement that wars must be declared by Congress. 362 00:20:49.000 --> 00:20:55.119 So Senator Sanders laying it down. He also he also 363 00:20:55.359 --> 00:20:59.920 laid out he called out Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin netting Ya, 364 00:21:00.200 --> 00:21:05.680 who Friday decision to launch an attack on Iran. Net 365 00:21:05.720 --> 00:21:06.799 in Yaho. 366 00:21:06.480 --> 00:21:07.279 Started this war. 367 00:21:07.359 --> 00:21:11.440 Now is this Senator Bernard Sanders talking, He said, net 368 00:21:11.519 --> 00:21:15.720 Yah who started this war with a surprise unilateral attack 369 00:21:16.119 --> 00:21:18.240 against Iran, which has. 370 00:21:18.119 --> 00:21:23.000 Already killed hundreds of people and wounded many more. This 371 00:21:23.039 --> 00:21:30.119 attack was specifically designed to sabotage American diplomatic efforts. Israel's 372 00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:37.200 assassinated assassinated the man overseeing Iran's nuclear negotiating team. Despite 373 00:21:37.240 --> 00:21:41.480 the fact that further talks with the United States were 374 00:21:41.599 --> 00:21:47.119 scheduled for Sunday. Oh my God, said, he goes on. 375 00:21:47.519 --> 00:21:53.400 Whatever you think of the corrupt and authoritarian Iranian regime, 376 00:21:53.519 --> 00:21:57.880 which we talk about too, and this attack, clearly, he said, 377 00:21:57.880 --> 00:22:02.000 despite what you think about that, this attack clearly violates 378 00:22:02.039 --> 00:22:06.720 international and United United Nations charter, go ahead on Senator 379 00:22:06.720 --> 00:22:10.400 Bernar Sanders. I mean he bringing it, bringing it to 380 00:22:10.559 --> 00:22:12.160 a real tough doc. 381 00:22:13.240 --> 00:22:17.480 No, absolutely, and I wish there were more folk in 382 00:22:17.519 --> 00:22:20.920 the Democratic Party who was speaking with that kind of power. 383 00:22:21.559 --> 00:22:24.359 But you know, I think the larger context is that 384 00:22:24.920 --> 00:22:30.200 it's hard to conceive of either the US government that 385 00:22:30.400 --> 00:22:34.200 has used nuclear weapons twice and killed nearly half a 386 00:22:34.279 --> 00:22:38.559 million people in a few days, having moral authority when 387 00:22:38.559 --> 00:22:41.319 it comes to nuclear weapons. That's the same is true. 388 00:22:41.440 --> 00:22:46.319 Same is true with the state of Israel that you 389 00:22:46.640 --> 00:22:54.640 commit genocidal attacks twenty over twenty thousand children in a 390 00:22:54.640 --> 00:22:57.920 matter of months, and somehow you got the moral authority 391 00:22:57.960 --> 00:23:01.640 to dictate who does and who doesn't have a nuclear 392 00:23:01.720 --> 00:23:04.480 weapon and you won't tell the world that you have one. 393 00:23:04.599 --> 00:23:07.279 You got over ninety of them, you got almost twice 394 00:23:07.319 --> 00:23:10.119 as many as North Korea. I mean, what are we 395 00:23:10.200 --> 00:23:13.240 talking about it, you get a level of hypocrisy that's 396 00:23:13.279 --> 00:23:14.680 on steroids. 397 00:23:15.599 --> 00:23:17.119 And so the question. 398 00:23:17.000 --> 00:23:19.440 Then becomes, Okay, well, how do we talk about the 399 00:23:19.480 --> 00:23:21.880 best in America? How do we talk about the best 400 00:23:21.880 --> 00:23:24.519 of Jewish brothers and sisters so we don't fall into 401 00:23:25.240 --> 00:23:29.920