WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:04.160 Dueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine day. Now 2 00:00:04.200 --> 00:00:15.960 here's Nick Coffee. 3 00:00:17.320 --> 00:00:20.760 That's right, hour number two here on a Tuesday afternoon 4 00:00:20.800 --> 00:00:24.440 Coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety. 5 00:00:24.519 --> 00:00:29.160 Appreciate Thorntons, of course, and I'm gonna keep reminding you 6 00:00:29.199 --> 00:00:32.159 because eventually this probably won't be a deal, because it's 7 00:00:32.200 --> 00:00:34.399 almost like one of those things that maybe they don't 8 00:00:34.399 --> 00:00:36.119 even realize how good of a deal they're giving you 9 00:00:36.159 --> 00:00:38.719 because you won't find it anywhere else. Four Monster Energy 10 00:00:38.799 --> 00:00:42.119 drinks for just seven dollars. I mean, say it out 11 00:00:42.159 --> 00:00:44.119 loud with me if you are somebody that is aware 12 00:00:44.119 --> 00:00:46.880 of how expensive really everything is, but mostly energy drinks, 13 00:00:47.359 --> 00:00:51.240 like that's a steal, so load up. I know I've 14 00:00:51.280 --> 00:00:52.880 made a few trips in the past week or so, 15 00:00:52.920 --> 00:00:54.920 and each time I go to get a Monster Energy drink, 16 00:00:54.920 --> 00:00:57.119 I get four of them. Because you know it's a deal, 17 00:00:57.240 --> 00:00:59.320 you'd be foolish not to take advantage of it, and 18 00:00:59.320 --> 00:01:01.359 you be foolish to sign up to become a member 19 00:01:01.679 --> 00:01:04.200 of the Refreshing Awards program. Download the app on your phone. 20 00:01:04.239 --> 00:01:07.439 It's free, easy to find, and you'll be happy that 21 00:01:07.519 --> 00:01:10.400 you did I was there earlier today. Same here. I 22 00:01:10.480 --> 00:01:13.200 basically lived there. I'm shocked at it. Run into you. 23 00:01:13.280 --> 00:01:14.879 They're gonna have to kick me out at some point. 24 00:01:15.120 --> 00:01:17.359 Got the got the two hot dogs and a coke 25 00:01:17.519 --> 00:01:20.719 for five dollars. Now, I'll tell you what Gluzzy gang, 26 00:01:20.760 --> 00:01:23.439 stand up gy gang. That's what I talked about. I go, 27 00:01:23.519 --> 00:01:25.359 what ketchup and mustard on mine? I know a lot 28 00:01:25.359 --> 00:01:29.480 of I know a lot of Glizzy enthusiasts like relish. 29 00:01:29.120 --> 00:01:32.480 Glizzy enthusiasts onions put that on your bio man, Like 30 00:01:32.519 --> 00:01:35.280 that's that's not a bad idea. Yeah, I mean, look, 31 00:01:36.280 --> 00:01:39.359 I am sorry, but if you shame people for putting 32 00:01:39.400 --> 00:01:42.599 ketchup on a hot dog, like, go to hell. Like 33 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:45.680 what I mean, I mean my hot dog in peace. 34 00:01:45.799 --> 00:01:48.239 The fact that because I know there are food snobs 35 00:01:48.280 --> 00:01:51.159 out there, Like I get it, but I feel like 36 00:01:51.200 --> 00:01:54.959 hot dogs the kind of thing that like you can 37 00:01:55.000 --> 00:01:56.840 be snobby about certain things, but like if we're talking 38 00:01:56.840 --> 00:01:58.439 about hot dog, like it's a hot dog, Like we 39 00:01:58.439 --> 00:02:00.439 all know how those things are made for the most right. 40 00:02:00.519 --> 00:02:03.079 So like if you're gonna be snobby about that, you know, 41 00:02:03.319 --> 00:02:05.319 maybe it sounds a little bit over the top, but 42 00:02:05.400 --> 00:02:07.439 like go to hell. Like it's one thing. If you 43 00:02:07.599 --> 00:02:10.879 want to get on somebody for putting ketchup on a steak, 44 00:02:11.000 --> 00:02:15.439 like Patrick Mahomes, that's disgusting, that's vile, that's childish. That 45 00:02:15.479 --> 00:02:18.199 should be a criminal girl, should be a criminal offense. 46 00:02:18.879 --> 00:02:21.599 But like hot dogs, I mean, it's where we draw 47 00:02:21.639 --> 00:02:23.639 the line. What's next? Are you asking me? Are you 48 00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:28.120 gonna ask me? And and you know, audit me shamey 49 00:02:28.240 --> 00:02:30.680 because of what seasoning I put on, like my Beanie 50 00:02:30.680 --> 00:02:34.360 Weenies or like spaghetti o's. Like hot dogs are great, 51 00:02:34.520 --> 00:02:36.800 love a good hot dog, love a good ballpark hot dog, 52 00:02:37.319 --> 00:02:40.439 but it's also not in the upper class of food. Therefore, 53 00:02:40.479 --> 00:02:43.719 like you know, you're just you're just being a jerk, 54 00:02:43.759 --> 00:02:45.599 to be a jerk, to shame someone about how they 55 00:02:45.599 --> 00:02:48.159 eat a hot dog. Once it comes down to you, 56 00:02:48.360 --> 00:02:50.000 I was taking a back when I realized, dude, that 57 00:02:50.280 --> 00:02:52.319 people shame people for ketchup on a hot dog. It's 58 00:02:52.400 --> 00:02:53.159 huge in Chicago. 59 00:02:53.319 --> 00:02:57.080 They like they they they don't mind, oh they put like, 60 00:02:57.240 --> 00:02:59.639 they don't mind mustard on there, but they draw the 61 00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:03.680 line up ketchup, And you're already low low of yourself. 62 00:03:03.719 --> 00:03:05.800 Whenever you decide okay, I'm gonna go have a hot 63 00:03:05.800 --> 00:03:08.479 dog anyway. So I feel like all civility is thrown 64 00:03:08.479 --> 00:03:11.319 out the window whenever you start to shame people for 65 00:03:11.560 --> 00:03:13.319 what they now add on to. 66 00:03:13.319 --> 00:03:16.680 The hot dog. I mean, there are certain foods that, like, 67 00:03:16.919 --> 00:03:20.759 I wouldn't necessarily be out here parading around bragging about 68 00:03:20.800 --> 00:03:24.639 eating because you know, but honestly, the more as I'm 69 00:03:24.639 --> 00:03:26.319 talking about it on the air, whatever the hell you want, 70 00:03:26.360 --> 00:03:28.560 you know what I mean? Like people shaming anybody for 71 00:03:28.599 --> 00:03:30.240 anything is silly. People can do whatever they want to 72 00:03:30.280 --> 00:03:33.360 live their life. But like hot dogs, of all things, 73 00:03:33.360 --> 00:03:36.280 I just never could quite like I'll put ketchup on 74 00:03:36.360 --> 00:03:40.319 a hot dog in front of your face, snobs. Okay, 75 00:03:40.439 --> 00:03:43.000 Like I'm not ashamed in any way. 76 00:03:43.080 --> 00:03:45.479 And I know Thornton's wasn't wasn't a shame to help 77 00:03:45.479 --> 00:03:47.800 me out because once I went over to the topping section, 78 00:03:48.360 --> 00:03:50.840 they were at a ketchup band mustard, of the squeezable mustard. 79 00:03:50.879 --> 00:03:53.439 So I asked the person that was literally working in 80 00:03:53.520 --> 00:03:56.080 the kitchen where they're putting down the pizzas and the 81 00:03:56.479 --> 00:03:58.680 cheese sticks and all the wings and like their little 82 00:03:58.719 --> 00:04:00.599 grill area, and then she looked. 83 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:03.599 Over some magic happens, She said, up is She said, 84 00:04:03.639 --> 00:04:04.120 oh is there? 85 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:04.199 No? 86 00:04:04.479 --> 00:04:06.680 There no ketchup and mustard over there, baby, I said, no, 87 00:04:06.759 --> 00:04:07.080 there is not. 88 00:04:07.199 --> 00:04:09.039 She said, hold on, I got you, went back and 89 00:04:09.319 --> 00:04:13.319 came out with three brand new of each mustard and ketchup. 90 00:04:13.479 --> 00:04:15.879 Nick I was the one peeling the top off of 91 00:04:15.919 --> 00:04:18.839 that fresh mustard, of that fresh ketchup, and I was 92 00:04:18.839 --> 00:04:21.720 the first user of it at around two o'clock today. 93 00:04:21.800 --> 00:04:23.959 That's the kind of service you expect from the associates 94 00:04:23.959 --> 00:04:26.279 at Thornton's. Couldn't ask for better good stuff. All right, 95 00:04:26.319 --> 00:04:27.879 let's go to the text line. Five OO two six 96 00:04:28.040 --> 00:04:30.920 five three zero seven ninety is not the number. I 97 00:04:30.959 --> 00:04:32.759 do it good, damn it. I got so distracted thinking 98 00:04:32.759 --> 00:04:36.319 about hot dogs and Thornton's, and I'm just gonna blame 99 00:04:36.360 --> 00:04:39.360 that mistake on the on the hot dog snobs. But 100 00:04:39.439 --> 00:04:41.439 FABO two four three eight ninety seventy three is the 101 00:04:41.519 --> 00:04:43.439 number again, FIBO two four three eight ninety seventy three. 102 00:04:43.439 --> 00:04:44.600 If you want to text in on the Ellen and 103 00:04:44.639 --> 00:04:47.160 Federal Credit Union text line phone lines, FIBO two five 104 00:04:47.279 --> 00:04:50.720 seven seventy nine hundred. So apologies for saying the wrong number, 105 00:04:50.759 --> 00:04:53.920 but this was something that came in earlier today that 106 00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:55.879 I talked about towards the beginning of the show, and 107 00:04:55.920 --> 00:04:57.399 that was that if it was my decision and it 108 00:04:57.439 --> 00:04:58.759 came down to line, and I'm not saying that, by 109 00:04:58.800 --> 00:05:01.639 the way, this is the ultimatum. From what I've gathered, 110 00:05:02.920 --> 00:05:06.439 I would imagine that Louisville has has done what they're 111 00:05:06.480 --> 00:05:09.000 gonna do for Native men, and now it's just his decision. 112 00:05:09.399 --> 00:05:12.079 And those who cover recruiting seem to think that Duke 113 00:05:12.600 --> 00:05:15.600 is the most likely landing spot, which, you know whatever, 114 00:05:16.000 --> 00:05:18.360 I don't think like Native Mint needs to pick Duke, 115 00:05:18.439 --> 00:05:20.199 so Case and Pryor then decides to come back. I 116 00:05:20.240 --> 00:05:23.360 think they're totally different things. However, somebody asked me, if 117 00:05:23.360 --> 00:05:25.600 it came down to an expense thing, what would you 118 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:28.839 what do you think would be the more worthwhile expense 119 00:05:29.360 --> 00:05:31.160 Native Mint or Case and Pryor? And I said Case 120 00:05:31.199 --> 00:05:32.839 and Pryor. And then we've had a couple of people 121 00:05:32.959 --> 00:05:35.879 that disagree, which is fine, But this person says, getting 122 00:05:35.920 --> 00:05:37.680 a talent like Nati Mint, even if he doesn't give 123 00:05:38.199 --> 00:05:39.920 give us a whole lot of production, but he's a 124 00:05:39.959 --> 00:05:42.680 lottery pick, that's great exposure to get you more of 125 00:05:42.680 --> 00:05:45.240 those kind of guys in the future. That's not an 126 00:05:45.279 --> 00:05:50.839 incorrect statement, but I just I don't necessarily and by 127 00:05:50.879 --> 00:05:53.639 the way, to your point, we already have that with 128 00:05:53.720 --> 00:05:57.920 Michail Brown Junior. I mean again Jonavan Givoni, who covers 129 00:05:57.920 --> 00:06:00.879 the NBA Draft for ESPN Draft Express, I mean, he 130 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:04.480 has said that after watching Brown at the Hoops Summit 131 00:06:04.519 --> 00:06:06.639 as well as the McDonald's All American Game, that he's 132 00:06:07.120 --> 00:06:08.600 made his case to be the best guard in the 133 00:06:08.600 --> 00:06:11.639 class and could be a top ten pick next year. 134 00:06:12.040 --> 00:06:14.199 So you already have one, right, and if you can 135 00:06:14.240 --> 00:06:17.079 get two, then great. But I just as we talked 136 00:06:17.079 --> 00:06:22.720 about yesterday, getting a one and done, it's cool, right, 137 00:06:22.879 --> 00:06:28.360 Like you know, that's representation from you for your program 138 00:06:28.560 --> 00:06:32.199 on Draft night. It'll show a path of Okay, if 139 00:06:32.240 --> 00:06:34.319 you've got elite guys that know they're only going to 140 00:06:34.360 --> 00:06:36.240 be making a pit stop in college before they get 141 00:06:36.240 --> 00:06:38.800 to the Association, they'll know that they can take the 142 00:06:38.839 --> 00:06:42.360 path to Louisville and get there. Like it's worthwhile, but 143 00:06:42.480 --> 00:06:48.920 it's not worth prioritizing a huge part of your resources 144 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:53.120 to build a roster on an annual basis on those 145 00:06:53.240 --> 00:06:56.319 kind of guys, unless you know one you can afford it, 146 00:06:56.680 --> 00:06:59.839 and they've got a good system to join in, which, 147 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:02.879 by the way, Nata Mint, I mean, if it comes 148 00:07:02.879 --> 00:07:05.439 down to money in Louisville, you know, ended up not 149 00:07:05.480 --> 00:07:09.680 being able to match whatever, maybe Duke will match, then 150 00:07:09.680 --> 00:07:11.399 that's where I think it makes sense. But look, I 151 00:07:11.399 --> 00:07:13.680 think if Nata meant if they could afford it and 152 00:07:13.720 --> 00:07:15.600 the money was right. Like, I'm not saying don't get him, 153 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:18.079 because I actually think right now, your roster as it is, 154 00:07:18.160 --> 00:07:21.240 especially with Javon Back, I mean, to me, that's a 155 00:07:21.279 --> 00:07:23.879 huge part of it because he's I mean, he's a 156 00:07:23.879 --> 00:07:25.399 grown man. He's a veteran, a guy with a lot 157 00:07:25.439 --> 00:07:27.920 of experience that understands the culture, and he'll be the 158 00:07:28.000 --> 00:07:30.560 leader of this team. He's gonna make sure that these 159 00:07:30.560 --> 00:07:34.079 young guys are well aware of what it takes to 160 00:07:34.120 --> 00:07:36.639 play in this program and that you're gonna be held accountable. 161 00:07:36.680 --> 00:07:38.759 But you also throw in like Ryan Conwell, another big 162 00:07:38.879 --> 00:07:41.560 veteran who's played a lot of basketball. I mean, I 163 00:07:41.560 --> 00:07:43.360 think it would work great if you could get him, 164 00:07:43.360 --> 00:07:45.720 because I think perfect scenario is that guys like a 165 00:07:45.800 --> 00:07:49.319 Mint and Brown have a veteran, talented, experienced group to 166 00:07:49.319 --> 00:07:52.720 play alongside to where you're not asking like your season 167 00:07:52.800 --> 00:07:56.160 is not dependent upon these two freshmen carrying you. It's 168 00:07:56.279 --> 00:07:59.439 just that they are components within your entire system, and 169 00:07:59.800 --> 00:08:02.480 you know, maybe if they get good playing time, by 170 00:08:02.480 --> 00:08:04.839 the time you get to February March, they're looking like 171 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:06.199 guys that you know are going to be in the 172 00:08:06.279 --> 00:08:08.360 NBA next year. So again, I'm not anti nata men 173 00:08:08.399 --> 00:08:11.040 at all. It's just if it came down to like 174 00:08:11.079 --> 00:08:12.879 he was gonna be a big enough expense to where 175 00:08:12.920 --> 00:08:15.519 you maybe couldn't bring in a Ryan Conwell, or maybe 176 00:08:15.560 --> 00:08:18.480 you couldn't make it right with Cason Pryor, and maybe, 177 00:08:18.879 --> 00:08:23.319 you know, maybe it ends up in somebody like a 178 00:08:23.439 --> 00:08:26.839 Warly deciding to go elsewhere because he's getting more or woolly, 179 00:08:26.839 --> 00:08:30.839 I'm sorry. I mean, at that point then I would say, yeah, 180 00:08:30.920 --> 00:08:32.879 pass on Nata Mint because all these other pieces we're 181 00:08:32.879 --> 00:08:34.639 talking about, I think are more important. But if you 182 00:08:34.679 --> 00:08:36.440 could make it work with everybody, then make it work. 183 00:08:36.799 --> 00:08:38.679 It just to me right now, it seems as if 184 00:08:38.720 --> 00:08:44.240 most of the most of the recruiting folks believe that 185 00:08:44.320 --> 00:08:45.759 Duke is the favorite. But again, I feel like it 186 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:48.759 changes like every day with this guy, really do all right? 187 00:08:48.799 --> 00:08:50.759 Again back to the text line Ellen and Federal Credit 188 00:08:50.840 --> 00:08:52.519 Union text line, I should say members get more at 189 00:08:52.559 --> 00:08:54.240 Ellenn Federal Credit Union. You can learn them on Open 190 00:08:54.240 --> 00:08:58.840 your Accounts today at LLENFCU dot com. This text came 191 00:08:58.840 --> 00:09:00.200 in a little bit earlier. It says, Nick, I'm just 192 00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:01.840 gonna be honest with you. You went to the spring game, 193 00:09:02.159 --> 00:09:04.440 Miller Moss looked okay, but I do feel like we're 194 00:09:04.440 --> 00:09:08.840 taking a big step back from Tyler Shuck. Any thoughts, 195 00:09:09.399 --> 00:09:11.360 I didn't go to the spring game. I did not 196 00:09:11.480 --> 00:09:15.600 get a chance to see Miller Moss. But you know, 197 00:09:16.879 --> 00:09:19.440 let's put it this way. If we end up getting 198 00:09:19.519 --> 00:09:25.480 to midway through next season and you know, you still 199 00:09:25.519 --> 00:09:28.879 feel like Louisville is in position to maybe finish strong, 200 00:09:28.960 --> 00:09:33.519 potentially find themselves in the race still for the ACC championship, 201 00:09:33.840 --> 00:09:36.120 but yet you do feel like we have taken a 202 00:09:36.159 --> 00:09:39.879 step back at quarterback. That may not be because you 203 00:09:40.000 --> 00:09:43.000 got Miller Moss and realized he wasn't anything close to 204 00:09:43.039 --> 00:09:46.279 what you needed him to be. It might be really 205 00:09:46.320 --> 00:09:49.000 the reminder that last year we had a really good 206 00:09:49.080 --> 00:09:52.279 quarterback in Tyler Shuck. I mean, I think I've said 207 00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:54.679 the same thing anytime it comes up with shuck in 208 00:09:54.720 --> 00:09:57.159 this NBA or I'm sorry this NFL draft type that 209 00:09:57.200 --> 00:09:59.120 he has, and we have Brian bram on Friday, and 210 00:09:59.159 --> 00:10:00.480 you know, I know he would say this about a 211 00:10:00.480 --> 00:10:02.440 guy he just coached, but I think he also means it, 212 00:10:02.480 --> 00:10:05.080 and he's very sincere that he thinks he's one of 213 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:06.919 the best quarterbacks in this draft and thinks that he 214 00:10:06.919 --> 00:10:08.559 will play in the NFL for a long time. Again, 215 00:10:08.639 --> 00:10:10.960 you'd expect him to say that, But I think we 216 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:14.039 all kind of had that moment when you lost some 217 00:10:14.120 --> 00:10:20.159 games earlier this year and at the time we didn't 218 00:10:20.159 --> 00:10:21.799 know SMU was going to be as good as they were. 219 00:10:22.759 --> 00:10:24.159 You lost to Notre Dame, and that was still a 220 00:10:24.200 --> 00:10:26.840 weird one because I I mean, I watched Notre Dame 221 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:31.919 and I thought, Okay, Louisville has made so many avoidable 222 00:10:31.919 --> 00:10:33.879 mistakes in that game, and yet they're still right there 223 00:10:33.879 --> 00:10:36.000 with a chance to win it. And I'm thinking, you 224 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:37.879 know what, like, I don't think Notre Dame is going 225 00:10:37.919 --> 00:10:39.720 to be really that good. I was clearly wrong. Notre 226 00:10:39.759 --> 00:10:41.639 Dame ended up going all the way to the National 227 00:10:41.720 --> 00:10:43.840 Championship Game, and they were a phenomenal team when it 228 00:10:43.840 --> 00:10:45.320 was all said and done, just came up short in 229 00:10:45.360 --> 00:10:49.399 the title game. So I think when we were losing 230 00:10:49.440 --> 00:10:51.679 games early that we knew we could have won, and 231 00:10:51.720 --> 00:10:54.039 we knew we had really good quarterback play in those games, 232 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:56.159 and that wasn't the reason why we ended up losing. 233 00:10:56.960 --> 00:10:58.799 I mean, did we not have that fear? Like I 234 00:10:58.840 --> 00:11:00.720 never felt like Louis was gonna have a add season 235 00:11:00.759 --> 00:11:03.759 and barely be Bowl eligible, trust me, But there was 236 00:11:03.799 --> 00:11:08.159 a little bit of frustration. And clearly, anytime you lose 237 00:11:08.159 --> 00:11:09.519 games that you feel like you should have won, there's 238 00:11:09.519 --> 00:11:11.360 gonna be frustration. But I think an element of set 239 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:14.799 frustration was because we're thinking, man, we only got this 240 00:11:14.840 --> 00:11:19.840 guy one year. We've already taken three losses and he's like, really, 241 00:11:19.879 --> 00:11:22.080 really good. Are we going to feel underwhelmed? Are we 242 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:24.600 going to feel like we wasted a once in a 243 00:11:24.600 --> 00:11:29.200 lifetime quarterback. I think the way the season finished, I 244 00:11:29.240 --> 00:11:31.960 guess you could still potentially feel that way, right, But 245 00:11:32.679 --> 00:11:33.960 I mean it wasn't. I mean, you had an eight 246 00:11:34.000 --> 00:11:37.440 and four season, you knocked off Clemson for the first 247 00:11:37.440 --> 00:11:38.960 time at their place. That win had a lot of 248 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:41.919 value still does. It's a big, big win for the program. 249 00:11:41.919 --> 00:11:44.080 You got the Governor's Cup back, and yeah, Kentucky stinks 250 00:11:44.080 --> 00:11:46.759 and probably are going to stink again this year. Embarrassing 251 00:11:46.799 --> 00:11:48.720 that you didn't have the cup for as long as 252 00:11:48.759 --> 00:11:50.840 you went without it, But like those were things that 253 00:11:50.919 --> 00:11:52.559 needed to happen this year, and you still finished eight 254 00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:54.279 and four. You still have momentum in year two of 255 00:11:54.360 --> 00:11:57.159 Jeff brom But like, I don't know, maybe if in fact, 256 00:11:57.480 --> 00:12:02.000 you see Tyler Shuck become a really quarterback early on 257 00:12:02.039 --> 00:12:03.759 in his career in the NFL. And I'm not saying 258 00:12:03.799 --> 00:12:05.279 that will happen, but if it does, maybe we will 259 00:12:05.279 --> 00:12:07.480 go back and think, you know what, that guy was 260 00:12:07.559 --> 00:12:09.679 dialed in when we played at Notre Dame. How do 261 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:14.080 we lose that one? Or Miami? You know, cam WARDNA, 262 00:12:14.320 --> 00:12:17.919 he's gonna be taken really early, right, But I'll just 263 00:12:17.919 --> 00:12:19.159 say this, and I know it sounds like such a 264 00:12:19.159 --> 00:12:21.320 Louisville Homer thing to say, what do I know about 265 00:12:21.360 --> 00:12:25.679 evaluating quarterbacks in the NFL, But if Shuck ends up 266 00:12:25.679 --> 00:12:27.600 being as good or better than cam Ward, I'm not 267 00:12:27.600 --> 00:12:30.440 gonna be shocked. And I say that mostly because this 268 00:12:30.519 --> 00:12:33.399 quarterback class is not viewed to be elite. It's actually 269 00:12:33.480 --> 00:12:37.600 viewed to be pretty pretty down, which if he's the 270 00:12:37.639 --> 00:12:40.039 fourth quarterback taking, which by all accounts that's what Shuck 271 00:12:40.120 --> 00:12:43.320 is is believed to be right now, according to you know, 272 00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:46.559 all the mock drafts out there, it's wild because you 273 00:12:46.559 --> 00:12:48.080 could be a top four quarterback and be taken in 274 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:49.480 the first round, or you could be in the third round. 275 00:12:49.519 --> 00:12:53.720 It just depends on who really wants a quarterback, who's 276 00:12:53.759 --> 00:12:56.159 really desperate, who you know, who's willing to take a 277 00:12:56.240 --> 00:12:59.960 risk on somebody. And if history repeats itself the NFL, 278 00:13:00.200 --> 00:13:01.840 I think, I mean the way they're enamored with the 279 00:13:01.879 --> 00:13:04.919 quarterback position. If you're the fourth guy taken, I think 280 00:13:04.960 --> 00:13:06.480 give a much better chance of being taken in the 281 00:13:06.480 --> 00:13:09.159 top sixty than you do taken after that. But we 282 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:10.919 shall see it. But back to you, like, look, Miller, Mall, 283 00:13:11.159 --> 00:13:14.320 I haven't heard anybody tell me that he's not good 284 00:13:14.399 --> 00:13:15.960 enough to be the guy that Jep Brom needs him 285 00:13:15.960 --> 00:13:18.360 to be at all. I did hear from someone that 286 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:19.720 said that he was a little bit shaky at the 287 00:13:19.759 --> 00:13:22.159 beginning of a spring game but then settled in. But look, 288 00:13:23.559 --> 00:13:25.559 if you're comparing him to Tyler Shuck, let's just go 289 00:13:25.559 --> 00:13:28.840 ahead and accept that. If the NFL scouts are right 290 00:13:28.879 --> 00:13:32.440 about this guy. We might not have many quarterbacks that 291 00:13:32.480 --> 00:13:35.919 play here for a long time that are as good 292 00:13:35.960 --> 00:13:39.200 as he was. So again, whenever we talk about Shuck, 293 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:40.879 I always think like, it's not really that big of 294 00:13:40.919 --> 00:13:42.840 a surprise, because again, we all watched. We knew the 295 00:13:42.840 --> 00:13:45.840 guy was good. But because the season, you know, had 296 00:13:45.879 --> 00:13:48.360 some losses early on, and it really never really felt 297 00:13:48.399 --> 00:13:51.080 like Shuck had a ton of hype as far as 298 00:13:51.159 --> 00:13:53.799 during the season. That's why I was a little bit 299 00:13:53.840 --> 00:13:55.919 surprising that here we go. Now they're looking at the film, 300 00:13:55.919 --> 00:13:57.519 they're seeing what this guy can do with his arm, 301 00:13:57.919 --> 00:13:59.639 and he's believed to be a top five quarterback in 302 00:13:59.679 --> 00:13:59.960 this draft. 303 00:14:00.039 --> 00:14:00.200 Left. 304 00:14:02.120 --> 00:14:03.960 But again, we watched, I mean not that we are. 305 00:14:04.120 --> 00:14:05.720 You know, I don't know about you guys, but I'm 306 00:14:05.759 --> 00:14:08.840 not capable of watching football close enough to know who 307 00:14:08.840 --> 00:14:11.399 should be drafted where. I mean, it'd be fun to do, right, 308 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:16.080 But just keep that in mind. Comparing Shuck to Miller 309 00:14:16.159 --> 00:14:19.519 Moss may just be unfair Miller Moss, to be honest 310 00:14:19.559 --> 00:14:24.039 with you, all right, let's see, let's get to let's 311 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:25.320 go ahead and get to our first break here in 312 00:14:25.320 --> 00:14:27.440 the four o'clock hour, we'll keep this thing on track. 313 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:30.240 Speaking to college football, do you guys see what Colorado 314 00:14:30.279 --> 00:14:36.440 announced they're doing. I mean, we'll get to it. Unserious program, 315 00:14:36.600 --> 00:14:40.720 un serious. I think they've officially told us without officially, 316 00:14:41.480 --> 00:14:43.759 you know, putting it in a press release. They're not 317 00:14:43.840 --> 00:14:49.480 about winning. They're about hype, Colorado Deon Sanders. It's all 318 00:14:49.519 --> 00:14:52.679 about TMZ type hype. That's all they want. They don't 319 00:14:52.679 --> 00:14:57.480 care about doing, actually accomplishing anything in their decision to 320 00:14:57.559 --> 00:15:00.519 do something that we'll talk about next. We'll make it 321 00:15:00.519 --> 00:15:01.879 make sense. If you don't know what I'm talking about, 322 00:15:01.960 --> 00:15:03.879 stick around right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. 323 00:15:04.440 --> 00:15:08.360 Now back to coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on 324 00:15:08.480 --> 00:15:13.559 Sports Talk seven nine day. 325 00:15:17.159 --> 00:15:18.879 So something I was going to get to a little 326 00:15:18.919 --> 00:15:21.159 bit later on. I guess it's now time to go 327 00:15:21.159 --> 00:15:22.799 ahead and get to it because it is breaking news. 328 00:15:23.320 --> 00:15:28.879 Lamar Wilkerson the Sam Houston State transfer, really good guard, 329 00:15:28.919 --> 00:15:33.440 good shooter. He was down to Indiana and Kentucky when 330 00:15:33.480 --> 00:15:36.919 the day started. He visited both Indiana and Kentucky in 331 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:41.879 that order, and he announced his decision to pick Indiana. 332 00:15:42.039 --> 00:15:47.440 So a win for a Darian Devrees over Mark Pote 333 00:15:47.600 --> 00:15:51.159 which gotta be honest, I'm a little I'm a little 334 00:15:51.200 --> 00:15:57.440 surprised by that, just because I do feel like, you know, 335 00:15:57.480 --> 00:16:01.000 he could be walking into, meaning Wilkerson, I feel like 336 00:16:01.039 --> 00:16:04.200 he could be walking into the role that was left 337 00:16:04.240 --> 00:16:08.879 by both Lamont Butler. I mean, obviously they've added low 338 00:16:09.320 --> 00:16:12.799 from Pittsburgh and they're getting otega o way back, So 339 00:16:12.840 --> 00:16:14.879 like maybe that made it seem as if the backcourt 340 00:16:14.960 --> 00:16:19.000 was crowded, and you know, he'd have a bigger role 341 00:16:19.039 --> 00:16:20.879 at Indiana. Like maybe that's what it came down to, 342 00:16:21.480 --> 00:16:23.039 because honestly, I don't really know a whole lot about 343 00:16:23.039 --> 00:16:24.879 what Indiana's working with. As far as the portal, I 344 00:16:24.919 --> 00:16:28.960 know it was nothing but white guys for Darian DeVries 345 00:16:29.000 --> 00:16:30.639 there for a minute. As far as all the guys 346 00:16:30.639 --> 00:16:34.000 he was bringing in. But six' five, guard twenty points per, 347 00:16:34.039 --> 00:16:36.080 game forty four and a half percent from three That's 348 00:16:36.080 --> 00:16:40.679 wilkerson's numbers From Sam Houston's Sam Houston. State, well he Picks, 349 00:16:40.759 --> 00:16:45.000 indiana AND i, MEAN i guess it shouldn't be surprised 350 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:49.960 because days of players just picking the biggest brand who 351 00:16:50.000 --> 00:16:52.519 has the most history and, tradition like that's just not 352 00:16:53.279 --> 00:16:56.159 that really doesn't have much value. Anymore and As i've discussed, 353 00:16:56.200 --> 00:17:00.480 before be happy if you were able to do enough 354 00:17:00.480 --> 00:17:04.720 as a program to really generate an, elite top tier 355 00:17:04.759 --> 00:17:08.440 status in the, sport because if you have it, now it's. 356 00:17:08.480 --> 00:17:11.079 Great and that's what led to you having, resources people, 357 00:17:11.160 --> 00:17:13.759 caring you know enough to know that you, know there's 358 00:17:13.759 --> 00:17:17.680 an expectation that kind of. Stuff but, nowadays like if 359 00:17:17.720 --> 00:17:20.839 you have all that but you don't have the money 360 00:17:20.880 --> 00:17:24.799 that others, have then you know you're gonna have a 361 00:17:24.799 --> 00:17:27.240 tough time, Competing like you can't just recruit based off of. 362 00:17:27.279 --> 00:17:32.200 That AND i think everybody knows. That but, anyways all right, 363 00:17:32.200 --> 00:17:34.880 again FIVE o two five hundred is the. Number if 364 00:17:34.880 --> 00:17:36.160 you guys want to jump. In we're gonna get back 365 00:17:36.160 --> 00:17:37.279 the phone lines coming up here in just a. SECOND 366 00:17:37.319 --> 00:17:38.880 i was just to keep your eye on the on the. 367 00:17:38.880 --> 00:17:40.920 Phones we just had a couple of people trying to get. 368 00:17:40.920 --> 00:17:46.160 Through but let's go to, well let's see we got our, Man, Jerry, 369 00:17:46.400 --> 00:17:47.240 jerry what's? Happening? 370 00:17:47.279 --> 00:17:51.319 Brother, Hey i'm going to weigh in on The, POPE 371 00:17:51.599 --> 00:17:54.680 i mean on the prior speaking of. You, okay TAKE 372 00:17:54.680 --> 00:18:00.400 i me Singing, pope sure prior versus Native. Mint here's 373 00:18:00.440 --> 00:18:03.720 my take on. IT i Take prior based on some 374 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:07.240 of the same reasons you you talked. About but but 375 00:18:07.640 --> 00:18:11.079 from my perspective as a, FAN i think the jury's 376 00:18:11.160 --> 00:18:13.880 really out on case And prior we had such a 377 00:18:13.920 --> 00:18:18.160 small sample. Size yeah THAT i, mean you, know he 378 00:18:18.240 --> 00:18:20.559 shot he shot it poorly from three and he shot 379 00:18:20.559 --> 00:18:23.599 it a, lot which is a. Concern he shot it a. 380 00:18:23.640 --> 00:18:27.680 Lot he did shoot his free throws. WELL i still 381 00:18:27.720 --> 00:18:30.440 think at the end of the, day LIKE i said last, 382 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:32.720 week we still need a. BANGER i don't see it 383 00:18:32.759 --> 00:18:34.920 any other. WAY i might be. Wrong maybe the guy 384 00:18:35.000 --> 00:18:38.480 coming from overseas will will fill that role a lot 385 00:18:38.640 --> 00:18:42.359 better THAN i. Think but from from my perspective just 386 00:18:42.720 --> 00:18:46.519 analyzing the, ROSTER i think where's the banger at and 387 00:18:46.519 --> 00:18:49.119 And prior's not a, banger and Am min's not a, 388 00:18:49.119 --> 00:18:51.200 banger AND i want to talk about a mint real. 389 00:18:51.279 --> 00:18:54.920 Quick did you Watch TEAM usa Versus Team world ON 390 00:18:55.039 --> 00:18:56.119 Usa network the other? 391 00:18:56.240 --> 00:18:59.519 Night, NO i just saw, Highlights. 392 00:18:58.799 --> 00:19:01.640 OKAY i didn't realize it was on until about right before. 393 00:19:01.680 --> 00:19:06.279 HALFTIME i turned it on and THEN i watched about 394 00:19:06.319 --> 00:19:09.279 half the second half came on really, late SO i 395 00:19:09.359 --> 00:19:12.960 bailed on. It after a. While but, anyway A Mint 396 00:19:13.119 --> 00:19:15.480 i'll give, him you. Know And i'm basing Everything i'm 397 00:19:15.519 --> 00:19:18.160 getting ready to say about A mint on that small 398 00:19:18.200 --> 00:19:21.640 sample THAT i watched him just the other. Night, okay 399 00:19:21.680 --> 00:19:24.440 and my thing is is. This he played eleven minutes 400 00:19:24.559 --> 00:19:27.440 and he scored zero. Points so, Hell i'm not gonna 401 00:19:27.480 --> 00:19:29.599