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<v Speaker 1>Hell, everybody any through the facilities of the iHeart Medium

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<v Speaker 1>Megaplex for the last time this year. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>state wide Big Blue Insider. You heard the comments from

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Pope, and now's your chance to listen in on

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<v Speaker 1>Billy Rutgleds, Aaron Gershan and yours truly be a part

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<v Speaker 1>of the state wide BBI Border to Border. It is

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Blue Insider. Dick Gabriel, Billy Rutleds, Aaron Gershwan

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thought we might do at least one more

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<v Speaker 1>of these, but the Wildcats fell short, as we know,

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<v Speaker 1>against Tennessee. And I'm not going to say I told

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<v Speaker 1>you Sov and Aaron, that's the Tennessee. I thought we

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<v Speaker 1>would see. That really concerned me. That was this guy Ziggler.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought we would see, which, as you know, really

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<v Speaker 1>concerned me. And as you pointed out, he played so

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<v Speaker 1>poorly against Kentucky. Here's the first two games. But I

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<v Speaker 1>just kept thinking, that's not really him. I've seen him

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<v Speaker 1>play so much. I thought that's not a character for him.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe he's trying to I don't know what it was. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but he played his butt off against Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 2>He did play his butt off and you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>will say this is not to discredit him, but Lamont

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<v Speaker 2>Butler picking up two fouls really let him get go

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<v Speaker 2>exactly where because not only well, they kept Lamon in

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<v Speaker 2>there because they knew they had to, but they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>put him on Ziegler because they didn't want to foul.

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<v Speaker 2>So not the same at all. So that was a

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<v Speaker 2>big but No, the guy played like a guy who

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<v Speaker 2>knew it was his last ride and for the coach

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<v Speaker 2>he's been with for four seasons and wanted to give

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<v Speaker 2>it his all, and he played a great game. And

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<v Speaker 2>Tennessee just dominated Kentucky on the offensive glass. That was

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<v Speaker 2>the big issue. I mean, I thought Kentucky defensively, like

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<v Speaker 2>the first possession, they were pretty darn good, and then

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<v Speaker 2>second chance points just killed them. And then Tennessee did

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<v Speaker 2>a great job running them off the three point line,

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<v Speaker 2>which is something they did not do well in those

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<v Speaker 2>two regular season matchups. So all the credits to Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunate for Kentucky that had to come against them, because

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<v Speaker 2>I think it probably wouldn't have hurt as bad if

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<v Speaker 2>it came against Houston Purdue. As long as it was

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<v Speaker 2>in the Sweet sixteen. Illinois just a non rival, but

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<v Speaker 2>obviously to me, you know, stinks but pretty darn good

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<v Speaker 2>first season.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't really complain, how surprised were you? Going? Well?

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<v Speaker 3>I picked Kentucky to win even after I had heard

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<v Speaker 3>the cliche it's hard to beat a.

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<v Speaker 2>Team three times.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe statistically, as it turns out, isn't true. Yes, yeah so,

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<v Speaker 1>but there is that twenty five percent. That's right, one

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<v Speaker 1>of Aaron's points about, you know, chasing him off the

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<v Speaker 1>three point line. Kentucky was extremely efficient in the two

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<v Speaker 1>wins versus Tennessee. I mean they were.

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<v Speaker 3>They shot fifty percent from three in both of those games,

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<v Speaker 3>twelve threes a piece each game, and for them to

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<v Speaker 3>only go six to fifteen, it's just Kobe Bray hit

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<v Speaker 3>the first shot of the game for Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 4>That was it for him. I mean, he goes one

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<v Speaker 4>for seven.

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<v Speaker 3>The rest of the way their defensive game plan.

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<v Speaker 2>Was was great.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got to get a lot of credit to Rick

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<v Speaker 3>Barnes and that team that was tired of losing to Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no doubt, but that loss definitely does not wipe

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<v Speaker 3>away how gratifying this season was in a lot of ways.

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<v Speaker 3>But interestingly enough, we will look back at this season

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<v Speaker 3>and probably remember two losses at Arkansas Cal coming back

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<v Speaker 3>up and then the first ever tourney game versus Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 3>But overall, you know, interesting details from Pope today on

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<v Speaker 3>the show about the guys meeting in a hotel room

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<v Speaker 3>six am till six am, tugging at my heart strings

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we already knew they didn't want to take

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<v Speaker 1>off the jerseys and thought Kobe Bray was funny.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a hard time. You're gonna have a hard time

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<v Speaker 2>getting it from me. And all I could think.

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<v Speaker 1>About is Mark Pope showed up at his news conference

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<v Speaker 1>when he's introduced what is jersey? You know? So so

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<v Speaker 1>they always get something somewhere. But it's interesting, you say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what are fans going to think back on? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>when you think about specific games, you'll think about this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>If you really start to pick it apart, you'll think

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<v Speaker 1>about Duke. And when you think about this Tennessee loss,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll think about two wins over Tennessee which were fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Gonzaga there were just a lot, there was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to like, and then again there were losses that never

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<v Speaker 1>should have happened. T Yeah, but it was the Old

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<v Speaker 1>Miss loss that interestingly enough, not unlike the ninety eight

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<v Speaker 1>team which lost to Old Miss in Lexington. And after

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<v Speaker 1>that game they had a players only meeting and from

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<v Speaker 1>that point I never lost. They never they bought into Tubby.

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<v Speaker 1>And this isn't what happened with Kentucky, but what happened

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<v Speaker 1>this year, of course, was how they went after it.

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<v Speaker 1>The next day on defense, they started really working on defense,

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<v Speaker 1>and talking to Sean was in my show Local each week,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was really really concerned about the defense. And

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<v Speaker 1>then because he'd gone to practice and he was wondering, like,

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<v Speaker 1>when are they going to really get into defense? Because

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<v Speaker 1>I think part of it, too is his offense. Pope's

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<v Speaker 1>offense is so sophisticated that it took him quite a

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<v Speaker 1>while to nail that day, and they did. I loved

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<v Speaker 1>hearing what some of the national guys were saying about

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<v Speaker 1>the offense Kentucky ran. But once they started working on defense,

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<v Speaker 1>they looked like a different team, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>No question.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, with Creasa in the portal, that kind of surprised me.

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<v Speaker 2>No surprise, you, No, that's one thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, You're going to see what he can get.

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<v Speaker 1>He could come back.

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<v Speaker 2>He could, but I do I think at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the day, look Kentucky swimming in the deep end

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<v Speaker 2>with the top point guards in the portal. They are

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<v Speaker 2>trying to make a major splash there. Their number one

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<v Speaker 2>target was done. You want to be a number one, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you have a Kayden Lewis coming in. That's right,

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<v Speaker 2>so he's kind of blocked and you don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think kayd and Lewis is gonna have a

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<v Speaker 2>huge role on next year's team though he is a

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<v Speaker 2>top forty prospect and who knows he can come, have

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<v Speaker 2>a great summer, add some weight and get right away.

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<v Speaker 2>That's up to him and how he establishes himself. But

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<v Speaker 2>I just think that it's kind of an awkward spot

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<v Speaker 2>for Careesa where you know Kentucky wants to go get

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<v Speaker 2>a legit PG one in front of you. You know

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<v Speaker 2>their PG two is kind of waiting in the wings there,

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<v Speaker 2>the guy they hope is the point guard of the future.

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<v Speaker 2>Why don't you go and try to get a bigger

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity elsewhere?

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<v Speaker 1>What about go ahead by.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just gonna say Kentucky signed a guy in

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<v Speaker 3>the transfer portal before their sweet sixteen games.

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<v Speaker 2>They sure did the day's share of the beast Man.

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<v Speaker 3>Have weird times that we're in and that guy seems

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<v Speaker 3>like he's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>He's exactly what they need. They need to get more athletic.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we'd all agree that's kind of what their

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<v Speaker 2>Achilles Hill was in some of these games. They kind

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<v Speaker 2>of got routed or they just that was the Achilles

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<v Speaker 2>hill against Tennessee. Tennessee just had more athletes. He could

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<v Speaker 2>shoot too, and he can exactly. He does a little

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<v Speaker 2>he's six eight at the place the three, four and two,

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit mostly the three, but he's six eight,

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<v Speaker 2>is a great wingspan. He's like you said, Billy shooting

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<v Speaker 2>forty one percent from three. I forget the volume, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's high. It's well over one hundred and thirty shots.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he averages over a block per game. So

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<v Speaker 2>he could do a little bit of everything. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously coming from two lane, there's gonna be a jump

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<v Speaker 2>to the SEC. But the American is up there with

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<v Speaker 2>one of the better mid major conferences. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's a great start, and here's three years left.

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<v Speaker 1>To see athleticism. It's exactly what I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>bring up. And by the way, Billy is like some people,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how many. I love to know how

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<v Speaker 1>many people went chalk the whole way. We know Jay

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<v Speaker 1>Billis did, But kudos to you among us three.

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<v Speaker 2>You Aaron scot I was close. I had a two

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<v Speaker 2>seed in Michigan State beating Auburn.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly what I had. And I'm watching that game

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<v Speaker 1>and midway early in the third quarter is the moment

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<v Speaker 1>I think. I've told you guys, there are times watching games,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care what the games are when I say

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<v Speaker 1>to myself, they can't win. Generally it's a team. And

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<v Speaker 1>it started with me covering Kentucky football for so many years,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and being on the field and watching them

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<v Speaker 1>and seeing how they've just been overmatched, out class or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>They can't win.

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<v Speaker 1>But if it's a close game back and forth, it

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<v Speaker 1>generally comes down to defense and football or basketball. But

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm looking at a game and I'm watching this team,

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<v Speaker 1>some team overpower Kentucky on the field, I'm thinking they

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<v Speaker 1>can't stop them, they can't stop them. You know, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Michigan State. I had that that moment early in the

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<v Speaker 1>second half because Michigan state. As good as they were,

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<v Speaker 1>as well coached as they were, they just weren't as

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<v Speaker 1>athletic as they They wouldn't. They couldn't jump as high,

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<v Speaker 1>they couldn't run as fast, they couldn't move as quickly,

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<v Speaker 1>and god knows, they couldn't shoot. And I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>If you you know more about this stuff, you keep

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<v Speaker 1>a closer eye.

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<v Speaker 2>Than They were. Never a good shooting team, never.

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<v Speaker 1>But Aaron, they were the worst shooting team in a

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<v Speaker 1>Big ten when it came to three point crazy. Had

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<v Speaker 1>I known that, I never would have picked him. That

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<v Speaker 1>was I don't know, Billy, if I'd gone Shock, was

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<v Speaker 1>determined not to shock. But I don't know who else

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<v Speaker 1>in that region.

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<v Speaker 2>Pick for me. There's been the eight final fours and

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<v Speaker 2>they went That was why I did it, But I

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<v Speaker 2>I took the risk. I didn't want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I would have said Iowa stayed. I don't know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>without their point guard. I would have maybe with their

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<v Speaker 2>But look, that was a tough one, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>a It's been a very obviously of four ones. But

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, what does it mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Why is it so? Why was it so chalky?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you because all the best players at the

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<v Speaker 3>mid majors went to the bigger schools.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a big part of it, I think, and this

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<v Speaker 2>year there's I mean that, but even there's a gap

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<v Speaker 2>between those four teams that we saw just clinched their

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<v Speaker 2>bit of the final four and everybody else because honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>outside of the you know, Florida had a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a scare against Texas Tech. Texas Tech choked that game away,

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<v Speaker 2>but other than that, they were these these Elite eight

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<v Speaker 2>games were not close and never really in question.

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<v Speaker 1>The final four teams though this year, how much did

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<v Speaker 1>they benefit from the portal if at all? I mean, Duke,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Auburn got brooined, but that was two years ago. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I will say Duke looked really good versus I don't

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<v Speaker 3>But then only Luke for binded everybody that this is

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<v Speaker 1>When I'm working with sweet sixte, I missed that.

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<v Speaker 4>Thirty four?

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<v Speaker 1>Well taking a witch now and somebody brought it up

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<v Speaker 1>on the on the Pope Show. Tennessee went all in

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<v Speaker 2>Their game against Houston were so similar to because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously Tennessee only scored fifteen in the first half. That

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<v Speaker 2>to like nine maybe sometimes, and then Houston would just

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky only got it to twelve, but it did feel

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<v Speaker 2>like every time it looked like someone like Tennis. Kentucky's

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<v Speaker 2>offense was better in the second half. It wasn't great,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was better. But every time it would either

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<v Speaker 1>It was at one stretch. And mind you, I was

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to like sequester myself of that nin I

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<v Speaker 1>probably would have. So anyhow, I went back and watched

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<v Speaker 1>it the next day, and you're right, from the from

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<v Speaker 1>first half, that's that's where Tennessee built its lead and

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<v Speaker 1>distanced itself from Kentucky. And then in the second half

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<v Speaker 1>just just had to fight him off, you know, play

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<v Speaker 1>him even and they did. Yep, So you know it

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<v Speaker 1>was so now you got two teams from the SEC.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people thought they'll play each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah about that.

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<v Speaker 2>And Todd Golden's first job I believe was on Bruce.

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<v Speaker 2>I know he's for sure on Bruce. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>Guy who survived. Yeah. Did you get I thought he

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<v Speaker 4>Did you get to watch any of Arkansas sixteen points?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was watching that in the hotels. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 4>That was Did you see it coming?

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<v Speaker 2>No? I honestly, like I, I didn't think they were

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<v Speaker 2>gonna I didn't think Texas Tech was going to win

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<v Speaker 2>that game until the last three that tied it and over.

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<v Speaker 2>I really thought I thought our and so I would

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I was seeing too many of the

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<v Speaker 4>same things.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and somebody somebody complained about you know he went

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<v Speaker 1>to that stallball. It was if it was I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see stallball, the kind that cost him at Kentucky when

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<v Speaker 1>he put teams in a stall with eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Minutes, said that because terrible what he didn't do that

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<v Speaker 2>the sequence I thought screwed them the most. I forget

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<v Speaker 2>what they were up. You might remember Billy it was

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<v Speaker 2>either no, it was three possessions. But they get an

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<v Speaker 2>offensive rebound. They kick it right to DJ who's wide

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<v Speaker 2>open for three. But we all know he's not a

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<v Speaker 2>great three shooter. And he goes and puts up a

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<v Speaker 2>three and he barely hits the rim Texas Tech gets

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<v Speaker 2>the ball, they come down hit the three. Ye that

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<v Speaker 2>and that's that stall ball. That's rushing early in the

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<v Speaker 2>shot clock when you could actually DJ hit stall J was.

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<v Speaker 1>Better this year from three, and he had hit one earlier. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so now he's in love with it, not his not.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where you actually want to play stallball. When you

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<v Speaker 1>get a second possession there and you want the guy

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<v Speaker 1>running your offense to have that field. Know that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so run some clock, but try to score.

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<v Speaker 2>Right and then look he he does. He's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to foul, he's not gonna and he doubled down on

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<v Speaker 2>it after the game. You do that, And he doubled

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<v Speaker 2>down on the on the scramble play. Why why why? Here?

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody said you should have foiled with nine seconds. That's

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<v Speaker 1>too much time. That's an eternity. But somebody else said

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<v Speaker 1>he should have done it when he was at Memphis statingainst.

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas and he tried, but they failed. They did a

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<v Speaker 1>poor job, and you know, he they went back and

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<v Speaker 1>was with Memphis now to one of his players, it

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<v Speaker 1>back to him. But they didn't execute it properly. They

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do They did it poorly. You know, did you

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<v Speaker 1>really work on that? You know that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So there are ways to get that done. And then he,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, at Kentucky, he doubled down on I don't

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<v Speaker 1>do that, and then he did it again at Arkansas.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, how's that working for you? You know? Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 3>You'd think with the analytic age, some would just rather

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<v Speaker 3>do it by their gut. I understand that happens to

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<v Speaker 3>you once and you probably don't forget it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a big you know, call time out play

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<v Speaker 1>always depends on a team. You know, if you get

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<v Speaker 1>a veteran team and there seconds left and they've been schooled,

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<v Speaker 1>they know what to do with the basketball and it

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<v Speaker 1>tights it. Yeah, but there are other teams that aren't

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<v Speaker 1>good on it. But when you call time out'd you

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<v Speaker 1>give the other guys a chance to set up their defense.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, DJ Whiter didn't pass the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>That was bull time both times in the scramble play shot.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why you drop a play if you have the

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<v Speaker 2>time out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, that I don't get, by the way, and

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<v Speaker 1>one of you missing is uh maybe off the ear.

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<v Speaker 1>But how surprised are we about big.

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<v Speaker 2>Z being People on Twitter are killing me for being surprised.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that Jonah a Do, the transfer from Tennessee,

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<v Speaker 2>got hot at the end of the year and kind

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<v Speaker 2>of took his job, but he's he's very loyal to

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<v Speaker 2>Cal and rightfully so. I mean Cal fought his butt

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<v Speaker 2>off eligible and that's what right on camera.

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<v Speaker 1>He fought for me, so I'm going to fight for him.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I'm at Arkansas. He fought for me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I guess I guess that only lasts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, and who knows that could look we

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<v Speaker 2>we know it now at Kentucky on the women's side

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<v Speaker 2>of things, that could be a decision where Cal said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so so long Farewell.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think he would do that with a guy,

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<v Speaker 1>a guy with skills.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd not. I'm just out there, Yeah I wouldn't. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>now you look at Arkansas. I haven't done a deep dive,

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<v Speaker 2>but I know, I just know off the top of

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<v Speaker 2>my head, A dudes out of eligibility. I presume Adu

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<v Speaker 2>is probably done with college. So you don't have a

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<v Speaker 2>I know, they have a point guard coming in who's

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<v Speaker 2>a five star, and they're other five stars either three

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<v Speaker 2>or four, but they don't really have a front court

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<v Speaker 2>right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, he had a much different role at the end

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<v Speaker 3>of the year than he did at the beginning, because

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he was hitting the final shots if he

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<v Speaker 3>were at least one or one or two.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a big part of their role. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>when they got hot. I mean we saw him lighted

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<v Speaker 2>up here at Rock, but he got hot for a

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<v Speaker 2>while there. But uh, I know all the fans are like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>bring him back, bring him back. I don't think that's

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<v Speaker 4>No, bring them back.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody somebody called Pope.

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<v Speaker 2>And bring them back. That was hilarious and Pope a

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<v Speaker 2>good answers. I wish I could tell you everything, but

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to get to fire.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll step back, come back and talk more basketball, both

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky High School, the women's game, a lot of it

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<v Speaker 1>here on the state wide edition of the BBI. From

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<v Speaker 1>Pikeville to Paduca. It is the BBI. Dick Gabriel, Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Gershan and Billy rud Ledby are of course looking back

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<v Speaker 1>on the Kentucky season, and the Wildcats were a pleasant surprise.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think I don't know of anybody who believed

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<v Speaker 1>they could get to the Final four this year. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>truthfully believe that once the season began and they beat

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<v Speaker 1>Duke and all that the expectations began to rise. But

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<v Speaker 1>the floor was rising as well, sure, but I think everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>for the most spart thought five hundred in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the conference and maybe get to the second weekend. And

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<v Speaker 1>to the second weekend. Question, But it was the way

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<v Speaker 1>they did it along the line that style of play,

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<v Speaker 1>the brand of ball. But then they would they would

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<v Speaker 1>beat somebody, beat Florida, beat Duke, all the quad one wins,

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<v Speaker 1>and then lose games they were supposed to.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't have a two and the SEC was really good.

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<v Speaker 2>But they didn't have a two to zero week like

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<v Speaker 2>same week Tuesday went Saturday game or Wednesday Saturday game

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<v Speaker 2>until the last week of the regular season. They had

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<v Speaker 2>some games where they won them splitting, right, they kept

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<v Speaker 2>splitting like they'd win on Saturday, win the next Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 2>but then they'd lose Saturday. Okay, so they never had

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<v Speaker 2>in the same.

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<v Speaker 1>How many games in a row did they win?

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<v Speaker 2>I think two in SEC was their mouths. They never

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<v Speaker 2>went to three. That's how good this SEC was.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true.

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky was a little streaky, but I just go back

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<v Speaker 2>to look, they beat Florida and they beat Duke. I'd

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<v Speaker 2>still love to know if Jackson Robinson was able to

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<v Speaker 2>never have the injury, and if Lamon Butler was back

424
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<v Speaker 2>to one hundred percent what this could have been, because

425
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, those are elite, and again, I don't I

426
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<v Speaker 2>don't think they would have been the final four either way.

427
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<v Speaker 2>I think their lack of athleticism was going to catch

428
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<v Speaker 2>up to them either way. But people forget, Like you

429
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<v Speaker 2>look at Jackson Robinson's season numbers, they're like, all right,

430
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<v Speaker 2>thirteen points per game is good, but in this league,

431
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<v Speaker 2>it's not all conference or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But he affects the way.

433
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<v Speaker 2>He affects the way they play. And in his last

434
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<v Speaker 2>seven games before going down, yes, he was averaging eighteen

435
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<v Speaker 2>points per game and shooting fifty two percent from three.

436
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<v Speaker 2>I think they beat Tennessee, if that's what I'm saying.

437
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<v Speaker 1>And a Hill Butler, and although Butler's in foul troubles

438
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<v Speaker 1>and I'll bet right, so.

439
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<v Speaker 2>I'm not and I'm not at all making an excuse

440
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<v Speaker 2>for losing the Tennessee like, oh, they didn't have Jackson.

441
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<v Speaker 2>But I just would love to know what the full

442
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<v Speaker 2>ceiling of this team would have been, because they beat

443
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<v Speaker 2>two of the teams that are still playing right now.

444
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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

445
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I kind of felt like Kobe Bray had to

446
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<v Speaker 3>force a lot ter the Jackson Robinson injury. He just

447
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<v Speaker 3>wasn't the same player that he wont to be. I

448
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<v Speaker 3>don't think he was against Illinois. I think he improved, Actually,

449
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<v Speaker 3>well he improved as a whole, but I think he

450
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<v Speaker 3>was out of and you know.

451
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<v Speaker 2>They were sending doubles at him from not out of position,

452
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<v Speaker 2>but the role that he is used to.

453
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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he's sixth man of the year and he

454
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<v Speaker 3>was started the year like that as well, So he

455
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<v Speaker 3>definitely had to evolve as the season went on.

456
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<v Speaker 2>His defense got better, it did, and he was getting

457
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<v Speaker 2>to the rightack.

458
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<v Speaker 1>You remember early there were times they just couldn't play.

459
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<v Speaker 1>He was so bad defensive.

460
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<v Speaker 3>They Well, if we're going to talk about growth, I

461
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<v Speaker 3>got I mentioned Amarilute. You know there were times in

462
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<v Speaker 3>the Tennessee game he didn't raise his hands for defense,

463
00:20:35.119 --> 00:20:38.960
<v Speaker 3>and I think we all screamed. But that guy improved

464
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<v Speaker 3>so much. Mark Pope said a number on the show

465
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<v Speaker 3>tonight that he was the third most efficient player.

466
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<v Speaker 1>In the country.

467
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<v Speaker 4>Sounds right, and I did not expect that from.

468
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<v Speaker 1>Him, And wasn't Almanor in that scene?

469
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<v Speaker 2>Well, Almanor became I think Corey Price puted out that

470
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<v Speaker 2>he's the first player in Kentucky history at a minimum

471
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<v Speaker 2>fifty attempts, I want to say, to be a fifty

472
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<v Speaker 2>from the field, forty or better from three, and then

473
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<v Speaker 2>ninety percent or better from the free throw line. So

474
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<v Speaker 2>he was a kind of a one trick pony player

475
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<v Speaker 2>as but he played his role of exactly what he

476
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<v Speaker 2>was supposed to do at a high level.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it was a fascinating year. It really was, and

478
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<v Speaker 1>I don't think anyone's ever gonna forget it. I think,

479
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<v Speaker 1>no matter what happens from here on, and a lot

480
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<v Speaker 1>of it had to do with what happened prior to

481
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<v Speaker 1>him getting here and where the program was. It was Yeah,

482
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<v Speaker 1>oh my god. Yes, it wasn't in the same kind

483
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<v Speaker 1>of shambles that it was when Patino took over, or

484
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<v Speaker 1>even when Caliperi took over. You know, I mean, Billy

485
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<v Speaker 1>Clyde at least got him to one NCAA tournament, and

486
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<v Speaker 1>you know, after that they won. I don't have any games,

487
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<v Speaker 1>but no, they hadn't hit rock bottom and didn't have

488
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<v Speaker 1>an empty roster.

489
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<v Speaker 2>But they did zero players, first team in NCAA history

490
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<v Speaker 2>to have zero returning minutes and make the Sweet sixteen.

491
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<v Speaker 2>They accomplished a lot. Obviously, you hate to fall short

492
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<v Speaker 2>and you hate to hate it to be Tennessee. But

493
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<v Speaker 2>now let me throw.

494
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<v Speaker 1>This sat at you, and I should have done this earlier,

495
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<v Speaker 1>so maybe you can mull this over during the break.

496
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<v Speaker 1>Somebody emailed me after the game and said he didn't

497
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<v Speaker 1>think Kentucky was ready to play against Tennessee, and you

498
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<v Speaker 1>know he so he put everything that happened in the

499
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<v Speaker 1>game at the coaches feet, which which you know I

500
00:22:31.400 --> 00:22:36.359
<v Speaker 1>do too, obviously, but that's college sports for you. Coaches

501
00:22:36.400 --> 00:22:38.599
<v Speaker 1>are demi gods, and when a kid misses a shot,

502
00:22:38.640 --> 00:22:42.640
<v Speaker 1>it's a coach's fault and all that stuff. But I

503
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<v Speaker 1>think we agreed that Barnes did a great job and

504
00:22:44.720 --> 00:22:47.759
<v Speaker 1>there were strategical moves that paid off. But we'll talk

505
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<v Speaker 1>about that on the other side of the break, and

506
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<v Speaker 1>we'll look ahead the next season. I got a great

507
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<v Speaker 1>look at Malachai Moreno boys. I watched him all week

508
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<v Speaker 1>and he was playing like a grown man. You're right

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<v Speaker 1>here on the State wide BBI welcome back. It is

510
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<v Speaker 1>to say whye big Blue Insider, Dick Gabriel, Billy Rutledge,

511
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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Gershwan. All right, So I brought up before the

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<v Speaker 1>break that a listener of viewer a fan emailed me

513
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<v Speaker 1>and said he believed that the loss to Tennessee was

514
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<v Speaker 1>Mark Pope's fault for not having his team ready to play.

515
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<v Speaker 1>Mark Pope would probably agree with that, most coaches would.

516
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<v Speaker 1>In fact, any coach worths Assault is not going to

517
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<v Speaker 1>say not, well, you know Rup did, but you know

518
00:23:30.599 --> 00:23:32.200
<v Speaker 1>the boys didn't do what I told him to do.

519
00:23:33.880 --> 00:23:36.880
<v Speaker 1>But I do think obviously Tennessee played better. Now, was

520
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<v Speaker 1>there something that Mark Pope could have told his team

521
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<v Speaker 1>and didn't? Is there something Rick Barnes told his team

522
00:23:43.920 --> 00:23:46.599
<v Speaker 1>that he didn't tell him the first two games. Do

523
00:23:46.680 --> 00:23:49.319
<v Speaker 1>a better job running him off the three point line?

524
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<v Speaker 1>I think more than anything, he just appealed. Did he

525
00:23:52.559 --> 00:23:55.960
<v Speaker 1>even have to say anything, Rick Barnes, You know they

526
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<v Speaker 1>kicked your butts twice. We used to be the top

527
00:23:58.839 --> 00:24:01.559
<v Speaker 1>ranked team in the country. You know, do you really

528
00:24:01.559 --> 00:24:03.200
<v Speaker 1>think they're that much better than we are?

529
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<v Speaker 2>Right? And look, Tennessee like Kentucky old team and in

530
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<v Speaker 2>their case more continuity, not total continuity, because they had

531
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<v Speaker 2>some transfers to Millichick para like not complete continuity. But Ziegler, Ganey,

532
00:24:17.880 --> 00:24:20.240
<v Speaker 2>Mayshack and Ganey have been or excuse me, Mayshack and

533
00:24:20.319 --> 00:24:22.400
<v Speaker 2>Ziegler have been there for four years. Ganey's been there

534
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<v Speaker 2>for two as a fourth year senior transfer. So like

535
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<v Speaker 2>they just like you said, they weren't gonna they knew

536
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<v Speaker 2>what went wrong the first two games. They're well coached,

537
00:24:31.599 --> 00:24:34.200
<v Speaker 2>they're smart kids. They've been there, done that. They were

538
00:24:34.240 --> 00:24:37.440
<v Speaker 2>in the Elite eight just last season, like three Straights,

539
00:24:37.480 --> 00:24:41.519
<v Speaker 2>second weekends, battle tested group. They weren't gonna let Kentucky

540
00:24:41.799 --> 00:24:44.519
<v Speaker 2>kill them the same way they did the first two games.

541
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<v Speaker 2>And I'll tell you what I mean. I'm not gonna

542
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<v Speaker 2>proclaim myself as a basketball expert by the basketball benny

543
00:24:50.000 --> 00:24:52.400
<v Speaker 2>or I might be a basketball Bennie, but not an expert.

544
00:24:52.400 --> 00:24:55.359
<v Speaker 2>But I was sitting court side, obviously covering this game,

545
00:24:55.440 --> 00:24:57.920
<v Speaker 2>and I didn't think Kentucky it was a lack of

546
00:24:57.960 --> 00:25:00.599
<v Speaker 2>effort issue at all. I never, for one thought they

547
00:25:00.720 --> 00:25:02.759
<v Speaker 2>looked like they didn't know what they were doing out there.

548
00:25:02.759 --> 00:25:05.720
<v Speaker 2>I just thought they got out execute. That's what I hear, Billy.

549
00:25:05.720 --> 00:25:07.839
<v Speaker 1>When somebody says didn't em ready to play, I hear

550
00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:09.240
<v Speaker 1>lack of effort. And I didn't see that.

551
00:25:09.640 --> 00:25:10.640
<v Speaker 2>No, I didn't.

552
00:25:11.480 --> 00:25:14.359
<v Speaker 3>No, you know it definitely started to set in in

553
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<v Speaker 3>the second half, but the games in hand at that point.

554
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<v Speaker 3>You know, while I said Kentucky played extremely efficient in

555
00:25:20.839 --> 00:25:24.000
<v Speaker 3>the first two games versus Tennessee, Tennessee was the opposite.

556
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<v Speaker 3>They were I mean, what fourteen to forty one.

557
00:25:26.599 --> 00:25:29.359
<v Speaker 2>Or something, eleven for forty five from three in the

558
00:25:29.359 --> 00:25:31.640
<v Speaker 2>first game, in three for eighteen in the second.

559
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<v Speaker 3>So I mean, you you think that that's going to

560
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<v Speaker 3>revert back to the mean a little bit.

561
00:25:36.160 --> 00:25:37.200
<v Speaker 4>The sharps were on it.

562
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<v Speaker 3>They had Tennessee as a favorite despite Kentucky winning twice

563
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<v Speaker 3>in the regular season. So you know, it's just that's

564
00:25:43.240 --> 00:25:46.160
<v Speaker 3>that's why they play the game, right. I mean, it

565
00:25:46.160 --> 00:25:49.720
<v Speaker 3>can happen any given Sunday or in this instance, when

566
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<v Speaker 3>you play in a football stadium in basketball, the only

567
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<v Speaker 3>sight to do that.

568
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<v Speaker 2>It was so damn right the lights home and yeah,

569
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<v Speaker 2>I mean it was the first thing. Kentucky held their

570
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<v Speaker 2>open They had fifteen minutes worth the open practice on

571
00:26:05.599 --> 00:26:08.480
<v Speaker 2>the date before the game last Thursday, and that's all

572
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<v Speaker 2>any of the players or Mark Pope or the stat like,

573
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<v Speaker 2>are these the lights that we're going to be using?

574
00:26:14.119 --> 00:26:16.359
<v Speaker 2>And they're like yeah, and Pope kind of rolled his eyes,

575
00:26:16.640 --> 00:26:19.799
<v Speaker 2>you're kidding me. And the players were like holding their

576
00:26:19.799 --> 00:26:22.960
<v Speaker 2>hands over their eyes like it was bright as heck

577
00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:24.759
<v Speaker 2>in there. I had a buddy of mine who was

578
00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:27.400
<v Speaker 2>on the Tennessee beat say, the ball players and coaches

579
00:26:27.440 --> 00:26:29.920
<v Speaker 2>were saying the same thing, no kidding, everyone was ticked

580
00:26:29.920 --> 00:26:32.720
<v Speaker 2>off about the lights. But yeah, I would agree with you, Billy.

581
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<v Speaker 2>That was my first second weekend and first time covering

582
00:26:35.720 --> 00:26:39.279
<v Speaker 2>a basketball game in a football building, football stadium, whatever.

583
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<v Speaker 2>Don't love it, well, see, I've.

584
00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:45.599
<v Speaker 1>I've covered games there. Well, I take that back. You know,

585
00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:47.960
<v Speaker 1>back when Kentucky used to play Indiana up there, they

586
00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:48.440
<v Speaker 1>played in.

587
00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:52.039
<v Speaker 2>The RCAD, different building, yes, the old Colts.

588
00:26:52.240 --> 00:26:55.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so a different lighting configuration. It was great, It

589
00:26:55.400 --> 00:26:58.039
<v Speaker 1>was great. It was really well done. And of course

590
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<v Speaker 1>I've been in the Georgia Dome. I've not yet been

591
00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:04.000
<v Speaker 1>in the new one because my last gig with the

592
00:27:04.039 --> 00:27:08.880
<v Speaker 1>SEC Network Radio network as producer was in. As I

593
00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:10.599
<v Speaker 1>walked out, I turned around like They're going to tear

594
00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:12.920
<v Speaker 1>this thing down on Monday. So I've not been in

595
00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:14.200
<v Speaker 1>the new ones. So I've been in a lot of

596
00:27:14.200 --> 00:27:19.319
<v Speaker 1>football stadiums that have been retrofitted for basketball. Don't like it,

597
00:27:19.960 --> 00:27:22.759
<v Speaker 1>Although I liked what they did in Georgia. You know,

598
00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:25.519
<v Speaker 1>they didn't try to set it in the middle so

599
00:27:25.559 --> 00:27:28.319
<v Speaker 1>that seventy thousand people. You know, they set it back

600
00:27:28.319 --> 00:27:32.319
<v Speaker 1>in the corner. When Kentucky played Michigan State up in

601
00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:37.039
<v Speaker 1>Detroit at the Lions Field and they raised the elevated

602
00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:39.920
<v Speaker 1>the floor, put it right in the middle so they

603
00:27:39.960 --> 00:27:43.519
<v Speaker 1>could set a record. It was it was awful. It

604
00:27:43.559 --> 00:27:45.799
<v Speaker 1>was just it was just the sight lines were terrible.

605
00:27:46.640 --> 00:27:48.519
<v Speaker 4>What's the reasoning? Is it just money?

606
00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:50.720
<v Speaker 3>Because I mean they played right next to us, just

607
00:27:50.720 --> 00:27:52.559
<v Speaker 3>just an NBA arena that would have had the same

608
00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:53.359
<v Speaker 3>amount of capacity.

609
00:27:53.400 --> 00:27:55.400
<v Speaker 1>Is that a record they wanted to set? The rich

610
00:27:55.480 --> 00:27:59.160
<v Speaker 1>they did seventy something thousand seats or whatever. And it

611
00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:01.480
<v Speaker 1>wasn't because me, he was I knew I was gonna

612
00:28:01.519 --> 00:28:04.039
<v Speaker 1>have a bad look at the game regardless. But we

613
00:28:04.240 --> 00:28:09.200
<v Speaker 1>local TV. We were up in the press box. We're

614
00:28:09.279 --> 00:28:11.519
<v Speaker 1>up near the roof of the building. I watched the

615
00:28:11.599 --> 00:28:14.279
<v Speaker 1>game on a TV monitor because I could barely see that.

616
00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:16.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, some people need binoculars just to even make out

617
00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:18.079
<v Speaker 3>what's going on down here.

618
00:28:18.119 --> 00:28:21.680
<v Speaker 2>Well there I was on the court, but the media overfall,

619
00:28:21.799 --> 00:28:24.920
<v Speaker 2>luckily was in the three wells they have seven hundred

620
00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:27.440
<v Speaker 2>level in that stadium. It's huge, and that's where the

621
00:28:27.440 --> 00:28:31.359
<v Speaker 2>press boxes seven hundred levels. So but yeah, look, and

622
00:28:31.400 --> 00:28:34.640
<v Speaker 2>by the way, Kentucky should just they have no choice

623
00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:36.000
<v Speaker 2>if they get to the Final four next year, but

624
00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:38.000
<v Speaker 2>they should just opt out of ever going to Indie again.

625
00:28:38.319 --> 00:28:41.039
<v Speaker 2>That place is just it's cursed, man. I mean. Now

626
00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:44.799
<v Speaker 2>they're fifteen and thirteen all time. Yeah, most season, most

627
00:28:44.799 --> 00:28:46.599
<v Speaker 2>of them a regular season. They've lost five in a

628
00:28:46.680 --> 00:28:49.799
<v Speaker 2>row and they've all been pretty painful. And I mean,

629
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<v Speaker 2>I guess the good news is the Champions Classic next

630
00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:54.160
<v Speaker 2>year in New York. But they haven't been playing while

631
00:28:54.240 --> 00:28:58.200
<v Speaker 2>there either Wall, yeah, John Wall did and Tyres Maxtt

632
00:28:58.200 --> 00:29:01.440
<v Speaker 2>did too, But we'll see about the CBS Classic hasn't

633
00:29:01.440 --> 00:29:04.240
<v Speaker 2>been revealed. So unless they're in the Final Four next year,

634
00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:06.920
<v Speaker 2>they won't go back to Indy till December twenty seventh

635
00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:10.000
<v Speaker 2>or twenty twenty six when they play Indiana there. Because

636
00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:12.680
<v Speaker 2>remember the Indiana Series is back, yeah, starting this season

637
00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:14.039
<v Speaker 2>at rough Yeah how about that?

638
00:29:14.480 --> 00:29:17.440
<v Speaker 1>But why are they playing the Indiana game in Indy?

639
00:29:17.640 --> 00:29:20.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, John cal Perry hates Bloomington and he's the one

640
00:29:20.319 --> 00:29:22.480
<v Speaker 2>that booked the series. Well, so this is it's a

641
00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:27.160
<v Speaker 2>four game series. Here's we'll see. Maybe Mark Pope will

642
00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:30.279
<v Speaker 2>be great and change it so we can have two

643
00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:32.200
<v Speaker 2>and lex and two in Bloomington. But as of now

644
00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:38.240
<v Speaker 2>this year in Louisville. Right, No, I've got it right here, Nozaga,

645
00:29:39.200 --> 00:29:41.319
<v Speaker 2>that's this coming year, day before I get married, so

646
00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:45.640
<v Speaker 2>I won't be there. But Mark, you Rubb Arena who

647
00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:49.680
<v Speaker 2>decided that the wedding. Yeah, if you're going to Michigan, Jay, well,

648
00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:55.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm taking a big risk. Well I wouldn't call it Perry. No, No,

649
00:29:55.759 --> 00:29:58.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to tell you the risk, and I'm putting

650
00:29:58.119 --> 00:30:00.480
<v Speaker 2>zero faith in Mark stoops here. I'm get married on

651
00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:03.400
<v Speaker 2>the day the SEC championship game. So they better not

652
00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:04.240
<v Speaker 2>make it this year.

653
00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:07.119
<v Speaker 4>It's happening. He's a sports guy.

654
00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:08.640
<v Speaker 1>Wow, he's a sports guy.

655
00:30:08.839 --> 00:30:09.480
<v Speaker 2>So we had to come.

656
00:30:09.799 --> 00:30:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I wanted to be your wedding on Derby.

657
00:30:12.079 --> 00:30:13.839
<v Speaker 2>So I wanted to get married. Listen, I wanted to

658
00:30:13.839 --> 00:30:16.240
<v Speaker 2>get married in August, and that was our original plan.

659
00:30:16.559 --> 00:30:20.480
<v Speaker 2>But Maddie's brother is in is going to serve our country.

660
00:30:20.519 --> 00:30:24.720
<v Speaker 2>He's doing basic training and he won't be home. Nobody'll notice.

661
00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:30.480
<v Speaker 2>They rejected his request. When he put it in. So

662
00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:32.920
<v Speaker 2>we're not going to get married without him. Yeah.

663
00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:36.839
<v Speaker 1>Some friend of mine many many years ago scheduled her

664
00:30:36.839 --> 00:30:39.519
<v Speaker 1>wedding for the day Kentucky played in nineteen ninety six

665
00:30:39.640 --> 00:30:43.599
<v Speaker 1>Alabama football. Oh, and she said you're coming. I said,

666
00:30:43.680 --> 00:30:45.759
<v Speaker 1>I said, no, I can't. I got it. And she goes,

667
00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:48.000
<v Speaker 1>you don't have to go to every game. I said,

668
00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:51.200
<v Speaker 1>my contract says yes, I do exactly. Kentucky ended up

669
00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:54.279
<v Speaker 1>beating Alabama then tearing down the gold post.

670
00:30:54.319 --> 00:30:57.119
<v Speaker 2>So well, I'm banking on them not making the SECX

671
00:30:57.160 --> 00:31:01.079
<v Speaker 2>Championship game. Wow, we're gonna I'm sorry, Mark, students, and

672
00:31:01.160 --> 00:31:05.279
<v Speaker 2>I have no faith hope. If you're listening, it's the

673
00:31:05.319 --> 00:31:08.119
<v Speaker 2>day of the SEC Football Championship, the Kenzag game. It's okay,

674
00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:08.759
<v Speaker 2>I can miss one.

675
00:31:08.799 --> 00:31:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Batch knows you man.

676
00:31:10.519 --> 00:31:13.880
<v Speaker 3>So he's gonna miss Kentucky versus Bama in their first

677
00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:17.720
<v Speaker 3>in their SEC champ football history. And then you're gonna

678
00:31:17.720 --> 00:31:20.759
<v Speaker 3>miss Kentucky win in Nashville against Gonzaga.

679
00:31:21.559 --> 00:31:21.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

680
00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:24.519
<v Speaker 2>I've been unlucky with this Kenzaga series. They've only gotten

681
00:31:24.519 --> 00:31:25.880
<v Speaker 2>to go to one of them because two of them

682
00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:27.039
<v Speaker 2>have been in Washington State.

683
00:31:27.160 --> 00:31:30.119
<v Speaker 1>But interesting, they so that means they have scheduled a

684
00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:32.079
<v Speaker 1>Gonzaga game for the same day.

685
00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:35.880
<v Speaker 2>The night before they're playing Friday night on December fifth.

686
00:31:35.880 --> 00:31:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh, okay, okay, But the.

687
00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:41.079
<v Speaker 2>Indiana Series is a rop arena this year December twentieth,

688
00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:44.559
<v Speaker 2>as this is alternative, uh, December twenty seventh of next year,

689
00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:47.440
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty six at Lucas Oil Stadium. Then come back

690
00:31:47.480 --> 00:31:49.799
<v Speaker 2>to Lexington at Roup in twenty twenty seven, and then

691
00:31:49.839 --> 00:31:52.000
<v Speaker 2>they finally go to Assembly Hall in twenty twenty eight.

692
00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:53.799
<v Speaker 1>Wow, maybe Mike.

693
00:31:53.839 --> 00:31:57.480
<v Speaker 2>Why did Mike Woodson sign that deal? I don't know,

694
00:31:57.599 --> 00:31:58.359
<v Speaker 2>but he did.

695
00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:02.759
<v Speaker 3>Branching off a little bit. How about Mark Pope holding

696
00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:04.200
<v Speaker 3>a picture with the media.

697
00:32:04.319 --> 00:32:06.160
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, that was something else a couple of weeks.

698
00:32:06.640 --> 00:32:07.720
<v Speaker 4>Have you ever seen that, Dick?

699
00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:12.079
<v Speaker 2>No? Never, Yeah, we were watching their open practice in

700
00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:16.079
<v Speaker 2>Milwaukee and Ded was like on the media and any

701
00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:18.279
<v Speaker 2>Lexington media, Mark Pope wants you to come out and

702
00:32:18.279 --> 00:32:20.440
<v Speaker 2>take a picture with the team, where like a picture

703
00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:23.279
<v Speaker 2>of the team, Like what do you mean And he's

704
00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:24.920
<v Speaker 2>like no, they want you to jump in and we're

705
00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:27.559
<v Speaker 2>all like looking at each other, like what old John

706
00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:30.799
<v Speaker 2>cal Perry would want us under the arena. But so

707
00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:33.400
<v Speaker 2>it was cool. It was a nice gesture, you know,

708
00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:36.519
<v Speaker 2>I was not expecting it and still kind of like

709
00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:38.720
<v Speaker 2>what but very very nice of them.

710
00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:41.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you did this on purpose. Maybe

711
00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:42.799
<v Speaker 1>it's something he's done in the past, and it is

712
00:32:42.839 --> 00:32:47.880
<v Speaker 1>two other head coaching Yes, possible. It reminds me I'm

713
00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:50.680
<v Speaker 1>flashing on and I'm not saying that this is exactly

714
00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:53.200
<v Speaker 1>what happened. But when Guy Morris took over as the

715
00:32:53.240 --> 00:32:56.079
<v Speaker 1>head coach for how Mummy, by the time Hal left,

716
00:32:56.079 --> 00:32:57.839
<v Speaker 1>Guy was not a hol Mummy fan. I can tell

717
00:32:57.880 --> 00:33:00.599
<v Speaker 1>you that. I mean, he respected him as football couch.

718
00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:03.160
<v Speaker 1>She just didn't like the way he ran his program

719
00:33:03.279 --> 00:33:05.160
<v Speaker 1>for a number in a number of ways because I

720
00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:07.920
<v Speaker 1>remember at one point, you know, and how was kind

721
00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:09.440
<v Speaker 1>of a contrarian, just like Billy.

722
00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:13.480
<v Speaker 4>But Billy I just think differently.

723
00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:17.720
<v Speaker 1>But how how would would He was one of those

724
00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:22.200
<v Speaker 1>guys and I respected this who believed that you didn't

725
00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:25.480
<v Speaker 1>need to be in your office twenty hours a day.

726
00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:29.480
<v Speaker 1>And there's all kinds of empirical evidence about coaches killing themselves,

727
00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:34.000
<v Speaker 1>especially in football, by you know, sleeping in the office

728
00:33:34.200 --> 00:33:36.759
<v Speaker 1>or you know, just not having a life outside of football.

729
00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:39.400
<v Speaker 1>And How's thing was you know when we're done, go

730
00:33:39.480 --> 00:33:44.319
<v Speaker 1>home and on Sunday nights win or lose. They worked,

731
00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:46.759
<v Speaker 1>of course, you know, breaking it was the autopsy like

732
00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:49.400
<v Speaker 1>Pope talked about. Everybody does, though they just Pope calls

733
00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:54.359
<v Speaker 1>with the autopsy. But they had a buffet dinner. Everybody

734
00:33:54.359 --> 00:33:56.960
<v Speaker 1>had a pot luck, I should say, at the Wildcat

735
00:33:57.000 --> 00:33:59.240
<v Speaker 1>din and he brought their families like we we would

736
00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:01.039
<v Speaker 1>a couple of times over there to shoot. The coach

737
00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:03.079
<v Speaker 1>is showing his kids running around, like what's going on? Oh,

738
00:34:03.160 --> 00:34:07.319
<v Speaker 1>we do this every Sunday. So how thought differently? But

739
00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:10.360
<v Speaker 1>I remember Geimo pulling me aside one day said, man,

740
00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:12.559
<v Speaker 1>these guys weren't bankers hours. They go home at five

741
00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:16.119
<v Speaker 1>o'clock or something like that, with this wonderment in his voice,

742
00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:18.440
<v Speaker 1>like you just don't do that, you know. And guy

743
00:34:18.559 --> 00:34:21.800
<v Speaker 1>was absolutely old school, you know, fifteen years in the

744
00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:25.400
<v Speaker 1>NFL and it. But my point is he made gestures

745
00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:28.320
<v Speaker 1>and moves where it looked like he was trying to

746
00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:33.599
<v Speaker 1>be the anti hel which included when I interviewed him

747
00:34:33.639 --> 00:34:36.840
<v Speaker 1>at halftime. Is I always do every coach in my career.

748
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:37.199
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

749
00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:39.480
<v Speaker 1>I actually quit doing it with Bill Curry, whom I

750
00:34:39.480 --> 00:34:42.320
<v Speaker 1>really lacking respective, but Bill wouldn't say anything. Bill was

751
00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:44.480
<v Speaker 1>always like, yeah, we just you know, we know we

752
00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:48.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't play. Well, we'll get it fixed, okay. But like

753
00:34:48.400 --> 00:34:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Stoops is great, Stoops gives you pointed direct answers. How

754
00:34:53.480 --> 00:34:55.000
<v Speaker 1>would y'all get away from me? Or you know, he

755
00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:57.760
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't say anything to him or whatever. Guy, the very

756
00:34:57.800 --> 00:35:00.840
<v Speaker 1>first time I did it, he puts his arm around

757
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:03.480
<v Speaker 1>my shoulders and walks me off the feet.

758
00:35:03.519 --> 00:35:05.719
<v Speaker 2>So he just wanted to be the anti hell that

759
00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:07.039
<v Speaker 2>got that that impression.

760
00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:08.719
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know if if if Mark's trying to

761
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:11.039
<v Speaker 1>I know, and I'm not being cynical, I think this

762
00:35:11.159 --> 00:35:14.239
<v Speaker 1>is a classic Mark Pope move from what I know

763
00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:14.840
<v Speaker 1>about him.

764
00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:17.679
<v Speaker 2>Well, just go on your go onto your theory here.

765
00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:20.880
<v Speaker 2>If you remember his press conference obviously in front.

766
00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:23.880
<v Speaker 1>Of We're gonna come to practice. Wait, remember he said

767
00:35:23.880 --> 00:35:25.480
<v Speaker 1>I did say that. That wasn't where I was going.

768
00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:26.199
<v Speaker 1>That's funny.

769
00:35:26.199 --> 00:35:28.679
<v Speaker 2>Well, I was just saying he went on and rattled

770
00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:32.079
<v Speaker 2>so off all these things that drove Kentucky fans nuts

771
00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:34.440
<v Speaker 2>about cal We're gonna go win in the SEC tournament.

772
00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:37.000
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna go back to Malli and play these non

773
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:39.880
<v Speaker 2>conference tournaments we're gonna do this, We're gonna do that,

774
00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:44.159
<v Speaker 2>like ore in state, recruiting, all these things that drive

775
00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:46.880
<v Speaker 2>the fan base bonkers about Cal. He's like, we are

776
00:35:46.920 --> 00:35:49.000
<v Speaker 2>going to change that. And so I.

777
00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:51.440
<v Speaker 1>Didn't actually say that, but he just say he that

778
00:35:51.599 --> 00:35:54.480
<v Speaker 1>was just it was between a lot. I was like, yeah,

779
00:35:54.559 --> 00:35:55.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know what I you know, we all

780
00:35:55.840 --> 00:35:58.199
<v Speaker 1>know what you're hinting. Somebody told me this, yo. Yeah,

781
00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:01.840
<v Speaker 1>but we all looked and you were there. We're all

782
00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:04.239
<v Speaker 1>thinking the same thing. Boy, somebody prepped him really well,

783
00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:08.519
<v Speaker 1>no card, you know you know what I was.

784
00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:10.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I was going to say, there's no way that's

785
00:36:10.840 --> 00:36:14.159
<v Speaker 2>all him, all him right now, knowing what I know

786
00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:16.400
<v Speaker 2>about him now covering him for a season, there was

787
00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:19.480
<v Speaker 2>no way that was given to him. He had that

788
00:36:19.519 --> 00:36:20.199
<v Speaker 2>all in his head.

789
00:36:20.480 --> 00:36:23.880
<v Speaker 1>But it may also be and be wonder from afar now.

790
00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:26.800
<v Speaker 1>And and I don't mean just geographically, I mean professionally.

791
00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:31.880
<v Speaker 1>He's busy coaching in Utah Valley State. He's busy coaching

792
00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:33.239
<v Speaker 1>and recruiting for BYU.

793
00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:36.760
<v Speaker 2>Sure, but did he know it.

794
00:36:36.880 --> 00:36:39.840
<v Speaker 1>We're friends telling him nothing, Perry guy, you know, so

795
00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:41.239
<v Speaker 1>it must have been in the back of his head.

796
00:36:41.320 --> 00:36:42.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure I'm sure it was.

797
00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:45.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think he's lying when he said he's

798
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:46.559
<v Speaker 2>always been a diehard fan.

799
00:36:46.679 --> 00:36:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh sure, yeah.

800
00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:50.639
<v Speaker 2>Just go look at that corny video he made way

801
00:36:50.679 --> 00:36:52.159
<v Speaker 2>back when when he was coaching at By.

802
00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:57.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah so well listen. And again, thanks to the lack

803
00:36:57.079 --> 00:37:03.559
<v Speaker 1>of archiving prowess at KYT, I did what I could

804
00:37:04.519 --> 00:37:07.199
<v Speaker 1>right after the ninety six championship. I don't remember who

805
00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:09.480
<v Speaker 1>set it up or how or why. Maybe it was

806
00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:12.760
<v Speaker 1>host Communications or IMG whoever had it, I don't know,

807
00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:16.119
<v Speaker 1>But I found myself in our studio, in the TV

808
00:37:16.280 --> 00:37:19.519
<v Speaker 1>studio and we had a little you know, set there

809
00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:23.360
<v Speaker 1>and Mark Pope sitting there by himself and I'm sitting

810
00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:26.119
<v Speaker 1>there off camera, and I fired questions at him for

811
00:37:26.119 --> 00:37:28.599
<v Speaker 1>about an hour and we just rolled tape and I

812
00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:30.559
<v Speaker 1>cut that all up and turned it into a special

813
00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:34.960
<v Speaker 1>with Mark Polpe reliving the season and Buddy when they

814
00:37:35.039 --> 00:37:38.239
<v Speaker 1>hired him. I tore that attic apart looking for nobody

815
00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:41.719
<v Speaker 1>saved them. Nobody saved him. That'd have been a great watch,

816
00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:44.320
<v Speaker 1>you know. But on Pro Day on the telecast, one

817
00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:47.159
<v Speaker 1>of the questions I asked him, I said, I'm not

818
00:37:47.199 --> 00:37:49.920
<v Speaker 1>sure old you are, but you're fifty one, fifty two, whatever,

819
00:37:49.960 --> 00:37:52.079
<v Speaker 1>I said, you were here for three years. People forget

820
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:54.800
<v Speaker 1>that aid a red shirty, of course, but that year

821
00:37:54.840 --> 00:37:57.679
<v Speaker 1>was as important as any. Sure, So he's he was

822
00:37:57.719 --> 00:38:01.360
<v Speaker 1>here for three of his fifty one or two years.

823
00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:03.880
<v Speaker 1>So what is that six percent of his life?

824
00:38:03.920 --> 00:38:06.199
<v Speaker 2>Low percent, basically low percent, and.

825
00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:10.599
<v Speaker 1>Yet it had such an incredible, profound effect on him.

826
00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:14.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean it stamped him forever, which I thought was fascinating. Yeah,

827
00:38:14.679 --> 00:38:17.280
<v Speaker 1>and now he's talking to recruits that way. And that's

828
00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:18.559
<v Speaker 1>what I asked him by I said, how do you

829
00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:22.480
<v Speaker 1>plan to instill that in in your players? You know?

830
00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:25.119
<v Speaker 1>And it's it's really going to happen organically. But I

831
00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:27.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Billy, you based based on what these kids

832
00:38:27.119 --> 00:38:29.000
<v Speaker 1>said this year, they don't want to turn their jerseys in.

833
00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:30.320
<v Speaker 1>I think it was legit.

834
00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:32.920
<v Speaker 4>It was no Yeah, I think it translated.

835
00:38:33.079 --> 00:38:35.199
<v Speaker 3>And that's why I think it's genuine out of him

836
00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:37.519
<v Speaker 3>and not just somebody giving him a note card or

837
00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:40.239
<v Speaker 3>telling him the points to say, because he's got the

838
00:38:40.239 --> 00:38:41.679
<v Speaker 3>blue and white in him and he knew.

839
00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:42.960
<v Speaker 4>I think that some.

840
00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:45.079
<v Speaker 3>Of the fan base was yearning for some of those things,

841
00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:48.760
<v Speaker 3>There's no doubt. But you know, it's also difficult and

842
00:38:48.800 --> 00:38:51.400
<v Speaker 3>different to coach in this era of college basketball.

843
00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:52.880
<v Speaker 4>So even with the.

844
00:38:53.480 --> 00:38:56.360
<v Speaker 3>You know you are one of us, it is, you

845
00:38:56.440 --> 00:38:58.679
<v Speaker 3>still need to adapt and have new ideas.

846
00:38:58.800 --> 00:39:00.480
<v Speaker 4>And his do.

847
00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:03.199
<v Speaker 3>Game like offense was something that I think we got

848
00:39:03.239 --> 00:39:05.320
<v Speaker 3>to hyped ourselves up a little bit over the summer,

849
00:39:05.360 --> 00:39:07.559
<v Speaker 3>and I think it delivered for a lot of for

850
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:07.920
<v Speaker 3>a lot of.

851
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Pot until the injuries.

852
00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:12.440
<v Speaker 1>They played it. Oh yeah, that's Florida.

853
00:39:12.599 --> 00:39:14.679
<v Speaker 2>Oh absolutely, that's how they beat them.

854
00:39:14.719 --> 00:39:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, they also benefited from Florida missing free throws a

855
00:39:19.079 --> 00:39:20.079
<v Speaker 1>third of their free throws.

856
00:39:20.119 --> 00:39:22.559
<v Speaker 2>They did score a hundred points, they did, but what

857
00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:25.280
<v Speaker 2>you knows, a bunch of frerow missed the front ends stuff.

858
00:39:25.400 --> 00:39:27.119
<v Speaker 4>And they played at eleven am, which was good for

859
00:39:27.199 --> 00:39:28.400
<v Speaker 4>our old guys.

860
00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:30.039
<v Speaker 1>You're looking right at me, Billy.

861
00:39:31.519 --> 00:39:34.119
<v Speaker 4>They can just go right to the Golden Corral right after.

862
00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:39.119
<v Speaker 1>Man. Before I moved to where I live now, where

863
00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:42.079
<v Speaker 1>I have my garage and where I produced my local show,

864
00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:45.239
<v Speaker 1>I lived over on the northeast side of town, happily

865
00:39:45.320 --> 00:39:48.760
<v Speaker 1>so for nineteen years, and there's a Golden Corral within

866
00:39:48.920 --> 00:39:52.800
<v Speaker 1>walking distance of my home. I think I went there

867
00:39:53.199 --> 00:39:55.000
<v Speaker 1>twice that nineteen years.

868
00:39:55.360 --> 00:39:59.880
<v Speaker 3>Have been a rewards member, really and you're half my age.

869
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:02.920
<v Speaker 3>The chocolate fountain they got going on here, I mean,

870
00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:03.599
<v Speaker 3>where are you going.

871
00:40:03.440 --> 00:40:04.840
<v Speaker 2>To find that a wedding?

872
00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:07.360
<v Speaker 1>And then right across the street was a huge buffet

873
00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:12.599
<v Speaker 1>as well. But yeah, that's some of my favorite Chinese restaurants.

874
00:40:12.599 --> 00:40:16.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna put out of business by buffets. It's hard

875
00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:18.920
<v Speaker 1>to compete. Oh, we get up on that tangent. All right.

876
00:40:18.920 --> 00:40:20.679
<v Speaker 1>When we come back, we're going to talk about Malachi

877
00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:22.679
<v Speaker 1>Marino and some of the other recruits. We're gonna talk

878
00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:24.239
<v Speaker 1>about the future on the other side of the break

879
00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:29.320
<v Speaker 1>here on the state wide BBI final segment of our

880
00:40:29.320 --> 00:40:31.639
<v Speaker 1>final show. We thank you so much for being with us.

881
00:40:33.039 --> 00:40:35.639
<v Speaker 1>You can listen to The Big Blue Insider on the

882
00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:39.320
<v Speaker 1>local show on Mondays and that will air till seven

883
00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:41.639
<v Speaker 1>thirty and WLAP here and Lexion and then it's the

884
00:40:41.719 --> 00:40:45.679
<v Speaker 1>Nick Minngione Show with Darren Hedrick. Uh. Wildcats have a

885
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:48.719
<v Speaker 1>big series coming up this weekend with Old Miss. They

886
00:40:48.920 --> 00:40:52.719
<v Speaker 1>survived and they played well at time, didn't pitch well,

887
00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:55.119
<v Speaker 1>but managed to take two out of three from an

888
00:40:55.119 --> 00:40:58.000
<v Speaker 1>A and M team that's just befuddled all of college there.

889
00:40:58.480 --> 00:41:00.000
<v Speaker 2>They're coach leaving for Texas.

890
00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:03.679
<v Speaker 1>Really yeah, but they were still preseason number one.

891
00:41:03.880 --> 00:41:06.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Just they'll never see the top twenty five again.

892
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:10.400
<v Speaker 2>All of SEC Baseball twitters that their coach is gonna

893
00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:12.280
<v Speaker 2>be a one and done so tough situation.

894
00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:13.320
<v Speaker 1>It ain't working for him.

895
00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:15.239
<v Speaker 3>Are you surprised that we have a curfew rule in

896
00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:16.039
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty five?

897
00:41:16.159 --> 00:41:19.199
<v Speaker 1>No? No, not without sport. Yeah.

898
00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:19.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't like it.

899
00:41:20.039 --> 00:41:23.239
<v Speaker 3>Even the billions of dollars that sports makes and gambling

900
00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:25.079
<v Speaker 3>affect him.

901
00:41:25.400 --> 00:41:27.559
<v Speaker 4>Can't get a commercial flight. A little later in the day.

902
00:41:27.719 --> 00:41:32.559
<v Speaker 1>I watched Kentucky down at LSU complete like an inning

903
00:41:32.599 --> 00:41:34.880
<v Speaker 1>in nine minutes or something like that. Oh yeah, they

904
00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:38.000
<v Speaker 1>needed excuse me, and they ended up the game ended.

905
00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:42.079
<v Speaker 2>Up a tie. I mean there was a coach A

906
00:41:42.159 --> 00:41:44.719
<v Speaker 2>and M's coach told his guys to intentionally strike out

907
00:41:44.840 --> 00:41:45.840
<v Speaker 2>so they can get that inning.

908
00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:50.440
<v Speaker 1>I would think so. Yeah, But just I covered the

909
00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:54.159
<v Speaker 1>that's why your kids took a mountain covered the Sweet sixteen.

910
00:41:54.199 --> 00:41:57.360
<v Speaker 1>I saw almost every game. Billy was there for a

911
00:41:57.360 --> 00:41:59.599
<v Speaker 1>couple of games. Some of you listening may have seen

912
00:41:59.599 --> 00:42:02.519
<v Speaker 1>some of it on TV. Great Crossing wins it after

913
00:42:02.559 --> 00:42:05.760
<v Speaker 1>being beaten in the Final four last year, which amazed me.

914
00:42:05.800 --> 00:42:08.960
<v Speaker 1>When you got a guy with the size and skills

915
00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:12.840
<v Speaker 1>of Morino, but he's he was better this year and

916
00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:16.360
<v Speaker 1>that team has more than just him. They got Vince

917
00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:18.719
<v Speaker 1>Dawson who's going to Warrid State and other kids who

918
00:42:18.760 --> 00:42:21.519
<v Speaker 1>can play. But Billy went to see South Oldham play,

919
00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:24.159
<v Speaker 1>and you've got some ties to south Oldham.

920
00:42:24.199 --> 00:42:25.719
<v Speaker 3>That's where I went to high school, so I had

921
00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:28.679
<v Speaker 3>to go and support. I think it was the farthest

922
00:42:28.679 --> 00:42:31.199
<v Speaker 3>and Oldham County team has been because I believe Oldham

923
00:42:31.199 --> 00:42:33.320
<v Speaker 3>County also made the Final four a couple of years ago.

924
00:42:33.719 --> 00:42:37.559
<v Speaker 1>North Oldham was I think, Yeah, beat him in the district,

925
00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:40.079
<v Speaker 1>or beat him in a district championship south old and

926
00:42:40.119 --> 00:42:40.960
<v Speaker 1>beat them in the regional.

927
00:42:41.000 --> 00:42:42.559
<v Speaker 3>Well it's funny because I went to the first South

928
00:42:42.599 --> 00:42:44.440
<v Speaker 3>game and it was packed. I mean they brought the

929
00:42:44.440 --> 00:42:46.559
<v Speaker 3>buses over. Everybody was there. And then I went back

930
00:42:46.559 --> 00:42:50.119
<v Speaker 3>Saturday morning and not much nobody there. It's like you

931
00:42:50.159 --> 00:42:54.440
<v Speaker 3>don't get school off and nobody came. But congratulations to

932
00:42:54.480 --> 00:42:55.639
<v Speaker 3>Great Crossing Malachaburn.

933
00:42:55.679 --> 00:42:57.960
<v Speaker 1>They wore those neon yellowish green shirts.

934
00:42:58.039 --> 00:43:01.519
<v Speaker 3>Oh the South studentman. Yeah, and we did that in

935
00:43:01.880 --> 00:43:06.880
<v Speaker 3>twenty thirteen, did you really? Yeah, that's great I love that.

936
00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:10.960
<v Speaker 1>But at any rate, you're gonna like You're gonna like

937
00:43:11.039 --> 00:43:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Moreno a great kid. And I will tell you this

938
00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:16.280
<v Speaker 1>that my daughter who's been a teacher for a couple

939
00:43:16.320 --> 00:43:19.920
<v Speaker 1>of years at at Bowling Green, she teaches special needs

940
00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:25.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking At'm reading a great crossing. She teaches works

941
00:43:25.239 --> 00:43:28.360
<v Speaker 1>with special needs children. And there are other students who

942
00:43:28.360 --> 00:43:30.960
<v Speaker 1>are part of a program who volunteer to come help,

943
00:43:31.519 --> 00:43:34.440
<v Speaker 1>and several of the basketball players do it, and Moreno

944
00:43:34.519 --> 00:43:37.360
<v Speaker 1>is one of them. So she loves him. And because

945
00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:39.800
<v Speaker 1>of that she called me. When she called me, had

946
00:43:39.840 --> 00:43:43.719
<v Speaker 1>just met Hubert Davis in the school recruiting Moreno, I

947
00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:46.480
<v Speaker 1>just met Mike Woodson. You know that people like that.

948
00:43:46.639 --> 00:43:48.880
<v Speaker 1>And then one day, hey, I just met Mark Pope said,

949
00:43:48.920 --> 00:43:51.800
<v Speaker 1>there it is, you know. So anyway, fans, you're gonna

950
00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:54.280
<v Speaker 1>like him. I think you're gonna like this Kentucky recruiting

951
00:43:54.320 --> 00:43:57.719
<v Speaker 1>class as well. The question is who joins them. I

952
00:43:57.760 --> 00:44:00.239
<v Speaker 1>have enjoyed being with Billy and Aaron, and I thank

953
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:03.840
<v Speaker 1>them very much for their time. They will be on

954
00:44:03.920 --> 00:44:06.920
<v Speaker 1>my show locally. Billy's got his local show every morning

955
00:44:06.960 --> 00:44:10.159
<v Speaker 1>at nine am on most of these same stations. Follow

956
00:44:10.199 --> 00:44:13.119
<v Speaker 1>Aaron in the pages of the Cat's Pause or online.

957
00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:17.960
<v Speaker 1>You can't just type in catspaws dot com anymore. Key yes,

958
00:44:18.039 --> 00:44:21.199
<v Speaker 1>they're still default too. Okay, good, all right, well I

959
00:44:21.320 --> 00:44:24.159
<v Speaker 1>urge you to do that. Thanks so much for joining us.

960
00:44:24.199 --> 00:44:25.840
<v Speaker 1>That's it. Good night from Lexington.
