1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Is Cougar Sports with Ben kretele At. It's time for the. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 2: Cougar Beat getting the dish from the local reporters that 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,080 cover Cougar athletics. Welcome back to Cougar Sports here on one, O, three, 4 00:00:10,199 --> 00:00:12,919 nine and ninety eight three esp and the fan, Ronald 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:17,239 the three male Weaver here Ap Andrew Peterson by my side, 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:19,679 Brett always bringing the hammer till we got vic on 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,559 the data aggregation. The team here today. Mark Kelly helped 8 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,519 us out in the first hour. Always appreciate him holding 9 00:00:26,519 --> 00:00:29,160 it down for us. Reminder of people like where's Ben 10 00:00:29,239 --> 00:00:31,399 crittle at. Hey, it's the bite week, guys, and sometimes 11 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,560 you got to spend a little bit of time with 12 00:00:33,679 --> 00:00:34,240 the family. 13 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: That's right. Ben's out there with the mouse. 14 00:00:36,079 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: G man might not like that, but Ben is enjoying 15 00:00:38,679 --> 00:00:41,399 himself as he should before the big game next week, 16 00:00:41,439 --> 00:00:44,119 because there'll be all hands on deck as right now. 17 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,759 Currently number ten BA you would take on number thirteen 18 00:00:46,799 --> 00:00:50,240 Texas Tech next week in that ten am Mountain time 19 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:51,920 eleven am Central time. 20 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: Game on ESPN. 21 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,079 Speaker 2: Well College Game Day go back to back with Big 22 00:00:56,079 --> 00:00:58,880 twelve games, and if they did, the reason why they 23 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,000 had to do it is because they do way too 24 00:01:01,119 --> 00:01:03,560 much going to the big ten and the sec We're 25 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,200 gonna We played a couple of sound clips for you 26 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,560 early in the first hour regarding why. 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I know he was 47 00:02:05,439 --> 00:02:08,800 your editor exactly. I remember he was a year semester 48 00:02:08,879 --> 00:02:11,719 two ahead of myself. I remember that. So it's crazy 49 00:02:11,759 --> 00:02:15,199 that all of us now have Well, you're close, ap 50 00:02:15,319 --> 00:02:18,080 of graduated or will be graduated, almost there, and we're 51 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,560 gone along our way. So shout out to I guess 52 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,199 BYU in that sense, all got our degrees. This segment 53 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,439 going to be brought to by Dental proso Utah dot com. 54 00:02:25,479 --> 00:02:27,560 If you need a feeling, a crown or a root canal. 55 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:29,560 All I asked is that shoul get a second opinion 56 00:02:29,879 --> 00:02:34,560 today at dental proso Utah dot com without further ado, 57 00:02:34,759 --> 00:02:37,319 let's welcome in. He's a part of the Desert News, 58 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,800 one of the best beat writers here in the washtch 59 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,680 front in the state of Utah. I remember when he 60 00:02:43,879 --> 00:02:46,039 was the editor at the Daily Universe. We all were 61 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,400 in the program together, and now we're working our jobs. 62 00:02:48,439 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: AP, you're coming up. You're right behind it too. We 63 00:02:50,319 --> 00:02:50,960 got action. 64 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,319 Speaker 2: Jackson Jackson Payne JP brother, that's crazy to say you're 65 00:02:54,319 --> 00:02:57,960 gonna have four BYU grads right now on this show talking. 66 00:02:58,039 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 1: That's crazy. 67 00:02:59,319 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I use a powerhouse academic unit right like 68 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:04,960 they pump people out and uh, we. 69 00:03:05,039 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 4: Got to enter to learn and go forth to serve. 70 00:03:06,719 --> 00:03:08,560 So now we're serving the world some hot takes on 71 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:10,919 the radio right absolutely. 72 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: I know what I thought about that when I was flinning, 73 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:13,800 I was like, wait, I didn't plant. I didn't. 74 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: I didn't even think about planets like Andrew kind of 75 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,000 graduate apro It's like bread and myself Jackson have already graduate. 76 00:03:19,039 --> 00:03:21,439 Speaker 1: Said wait. I was like, I was like, we got 77 00:03:21,439 --> 00:03:21,840 a team. 78 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 2: We just need to, you know, get Carter in Chase 79 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,000 and get Chases our big man, and we're good. 80 00:03:26,039 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: We can go. We got a little six man rotation 81 00:03:28,599 --> 00:03:30,319 right there. We can go go hoop it out. 82 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,439 Speaker 4: Hey, we already got the MVP of Media Madness and 83 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,159 Ronald the three man Weavers. So we're all right, we're 84 00:03:37,159 --> 00:03:39,280 gonna be We're a unit right here. We got that 85 00:03:39,319 --> 00:03:40,719 six man rotation. We're looking good. 86 00:03:40,919 --> 00:03:42,319 Speaker 1: Look, I've changed my ways. 87 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,159 Speaker 2: I bark at people a little bit more now, So 88 00:03:44,439 --> 00:03:46,240 as long as I don't try to injure people like 89 00:03:46,319 --> 00:03:48,680 Pat Beav shout out to the honorary jazz member for 90 00:03:48,719 --> 00:03:50,439 like two hours, I guess or whatever it was. 91 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: Look, I'll be the enforcer. 92 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,919 Speaker 2: I don't mind getting in faces, you know, being the 93 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,680 loud mouth and netwgard and let Chase you know, dominate 94 00:03:57,719 --> 00:03:58,280 and be the MVP. 95 00:03:58,400 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: That hype man. 96 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,319 Speaker 2: You can't teach that grateful he didn't compete because he'd 97 00:04:01,319 --> 00:04:02,240 have swatted me every. 98 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: Single play Brochase like six four six five up there. Man, 99 00:04:06,159 --> 00:04:08,840 he's a tall kid. Love that kid. Miss him too, JP. 100 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:09,840 Let's get right into it. 101 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 2: Eight no first time that be well, I think fifth 102 00:04:12,479 --> 00:04:14,759 or sixth time in program history Balie was gone eight 103 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,360 to no. First time that they go on back to 104 00:04:16,399 --> 00:04:19,800 back under Klanie Sataki. What does this say about the 105 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,480 you know, the love and learn culture, because I believe 106 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:23,920 right now it's at all time high. 107 00:04:23,959 --> 00:04:25,319 Speaker 3: Well, I think what it says about it is that 108 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,720 it's working right Like you you hear about all these 109 00:04:28,759 --> 00:04:31,879 different job openings and people throwing Kilanie's name out there 110 00:04:31,959 --> 00:04:36,759 for places like UCLA and uh probably LSU. 111 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,319 Speaker 4: He'll be on the list just of what media puts 112 00:04:39,319 --> 00:04:39,639 out there. 113 00:04:39,759 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 3: But at the same time, it's like, that's never gonna 114 00:04:42,079 --> 00:04:44,639 that's never gonna work at other schools. I mean, maybe 115 00:04:44,639 --> 00:04:46,480 it will, but just what he has at BYU, this 116 00:04:46,519 --> 00:04:49,399 is the perfect environment. This is the perfect location for 117 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,560 his style of coaching and his culture and the love 118 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,000 and learn philosophy so to flourish here. 119 00:04:54,079 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 4: And and so it's like, you know. 120 00:04:55,639 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 3: He's Colonie's got something really really special going on right here, 121 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:00,399 and he's working with some great people. 122 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 4: Jay Hill is doing great. 123 00:05:02,199 --> 00:05:04,319 Speaker 3: Aaron Roderick to be eight to zero with a true 124 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,240 freshman quarterback, I mean, just take a bow. He gets 125 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,360 a lot of flak from fans, and you know, the 126 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,240 play calling isn't perfect at times, but you can't deny 127 00:05:12,319 --> 00:05:14,879 his ability to develop quarterbacks and put them in the 128 00:05:14,879 --> 00:05:18,600 best positions to succeed. And Kelly Pepinga the special teams 129 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,439 is awesome. I mean, just everything that, everything that he's 130 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,360 done over the past decade at BYU has built up 131 00:05:25,399 --> 00:05:27,560 to a year like this, and like last year and 132 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,680 the twenty twenty COVID season with Zach Wilson and kind 133 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,560 of By's bursting on the national scene, albeit with kind 134 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,600 of a unique schedule, and then the next year they 135 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,560 go a defeated against the Pac Twelve. All these things 136 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,360 have built up for BYU to be in the thick 137 00:05:41,399 --> 00:05:44,160 of the college football playoff discussion, to be in the 138 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,360 Big Twelve title chase, and it's it's exciting because it's 139 00:05:47,439 --> 00:05:49,279 kind of a transition time for the Big Twelve. They 140 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,920 added a lot of new brands over the past few years. 141 00:05:51,759 --> 00:05:55,120 It's a very parody driven conference. There's a lot of 142 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,079 diversity in terms of competition and teams. 143 00:05:58,079 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 4: It's just kind of in anything can happen league. 144 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 3: But you know, BYU's is kind of embracing its role 145 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,800 in the Big twelve and is stepping out as probably 146 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,959 one of the bigger brands, if not the biggest brand 147 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,920 in the Big twelve. You look at they're the only 148 00:06:10,959 --> 00:06:13,079 team in the country to have top ten football and 149 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:17,240 basketball team. That's that's insane. I mean, that's we talk 150 00:06:17,319 --> 00:06:20,199 about by US and everything school. BYU is the crown 151 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,000 jewel of the Big twelve along with Texas Tech, and 152 00:06:22,079 --> 00:06:25,079 so it's been really fun to see and everything Colonie's done, 153 00:06:25,079 --> 00:06:28,759 every every shortcoming, every achievement, everything that he's built has 154 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,920 been building up to have a program like this, and 155 00:06:30,959 --> 00:06:31,680 it's really fun. 156 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, you you mentioned I just want to go back 157 00:06:35,079 --> 00:06:38,120 to where you mentioned Aaron Roderick there and I just 158 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,439 want to put something in perspective here, Like BYU's offense 159 00:06:41,519 --> 00:06:44,680 has three new offensive line starters this year, two new 160 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,040 wide receiver starters this year, less depth at they're running back, 161 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,560 a new tight end, and a new quarterback that they 162 00:06:50,639 --> 00:06:53,959 got two months before the season or somewhere around there. 163 00:06:54,199 --> 00:06:56,600 Can you just talk about the job that Aaron Roderick 164 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:57,920 has done with this offense. 165 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's been nomenal. I mean's we've talked about. 166 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,319 Speaker 3: He's a great quarterback whisper. You look at all the 167 00:07:05,319 --> 00:07:07,600 success that Bui's had at the quarterback position. 168 00:07:07,759 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 4: I think the. 169 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,759 Speaker 3: Word of the street is that he took over play calling. Dude, 170 00:07:11,759 --> 00:07:14,560 he's midway through the twenty nineteen season. So if you 171 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,600 just start twenty twenty and on, Zach Wilson was awesome 172 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,920 in twenty twenty, Baylor Romney and Jaren Hall were outstanding 173 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,040 in twenty one, Jaren was great in twenty two. 174 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,399 Speaker 4: Keenan Slovas you know, I'll. 175 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 3: Defend that guy until the day I die, And he 176 00:07:27,399 --> 00:07:30,480 had his moments of brilliance, But the big twelve open season, 177 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,800 like the first season the Big Twelve, there's a lot 178 00:07:32,839 --> 00:07:35,199 of factors working against him and against BYU, but whatever, 179 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,160 ritz Lft was great last year. And then Bear Bachmeyer, 180 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,040 I mean, this is just what Roderick does. He understands quarterbacks. 181 00:07:42,079 --> 00:07:45,160 He puts them in positions to succeed. The way that 182 00:07:45,199 --> 00:07:48,959 they've been able to use Bear's legs, especially considering the 183 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:53,120 lack of running back depth. Using Bear as a weapon 184 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,279 on the ground, especially short yardage kind of goal line situations, 185 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,000 has been really effective. And then, of course, I think 186 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,399 one of the most impressive of probably the most impressive 187 00:08:01,399 --> 00:08:04,399 thing by He's done this year, aside from getting Rocko 188 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,600 Beck to for three interceptions for the first time in 189 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,680 his career, was you know, when LJ went down at 190 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,600 Iowa State, BUYU was trailing, and it just looked like, Okay, 191 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:18,639 BYU's arguably best offensive players out, they're down, They're they're 192 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,279 playing in a really hostile road environment. 193 00:08:20,279 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 4: Agains the team that doesn't lose at. 194 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 3: Home, and they just started letting Bear rip it in 195 00:08:23,959 --> 00:08:27,000 the passing game, and it was it was incredible. I mean, 196 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,120 he was just he was throwing dimes, he was finding 197 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:33,480 wide open guys like Parker Kingston. Just Bear's finally as 198 00:08:33,519 --> 00:08:35,440 comfortable as he's been all year in the passing game, 199 00:08:35,639 --> 00:08:38,919 and it made BYU really dangerous and really effective against 200 00:08:38,919 --> 00:08:40,759 Iowa State. And I just think that, I mean that 201 00:08:40,879 --> 00:08:43,480 you got it. Credit Aaron Roderick. Like I think a 202 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,360 lot of teams have these play scripts that they scripted 203 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,240 out the first fifteen plays. It feels like Roderck is 204 00:08:49,279 --> 00:08:52,399 scripting out like two hundred plays for these games because 205 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,840 the preparation and the ability BYU has to kind of 206 00:08:55,879 --> 00:08:59,519 prevail late in games. It just feels like it feels 207 00:08:59,519 --> 00:09:01,519 like by the most prepared team in the country every 208 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,679 week when when they go out offensively, it just looks 209 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,080 like Aaron Roderck has a plan and he sticks to 210 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,879 it and it works out really well. And I've been 211 00:09:08,879 --> 00:09:12,000 really impressed by roder I think he's the unsung hero 212 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:13,799 of this team because we talk about Bear, we talk 213 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,519 about the defense. Jay Hill is worshiped among this fan base, 214 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,080 and I think Jay I think Aaron roder needs to 215 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:21,720 be on that level as well, because what he's done 216 00:09:21,759 --> 00:09:24,919 with Blackmeier has just been unbelievable. I mean, b Yu 217 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,799 is not eight and oh right now, without Aaron Roderick. 218 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,039 Speaker 2: I agree with you, and he takes so much slack, 219 00:09:29,159 --> 00:09:32,720 like you said, but to have a true freshman quarterback 220 00:09:32,799 --> 00:09:34,080 be eight to zer and not just aight to no. 221 00:09:34,159 --> 00:09:35,759 When you look at the numbers, you go back to 222 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,600 last year, right, he had Jake Retz Laugh also eight 223 00:09:39,639 --> 00:09:41,279 to o, a guy that turned the ball over a 224 00:09:41,279 --> 00:09:44,039 little bit more. So that leads me to this question, JP, 225 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,759 who's been the better quarterback through eight games. I don't 226 00:09:46,759 --> 00:09:48,919 know if you have the stats, but I think it 227 00:09:49,039 --> 00:09:49,879 wasn't too far off. 228 00:09:49,879 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 4: I think. 229 00:09:51,799 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: Snot Jackson. 230 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,919 Speaker 2: Now, Jake had I think maybe four or five more interceptions, 231 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:01,639 and I think he had a lost fumble. Bear didn't 232 00:10:01,639 --> 00:10:04,399 have that necessarily. If this is what the total yards 233 00:10:04,399 --> 00:10:06,159 is three eight games, I'll give it to you. So 234 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,960 through the passing game, Jake had one and seventy two. 235 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,440 Bear had one, has one six hundred ninety three, eleven 236 00:10:13,519 --> 00:10:17,000 touchdowns for Bear compared to Jake's eighteen seven. It tis 237 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,519 for Jake compared to Bachmeiers three. And then obviously you 238 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,759 add the rushing yards Bears four O eight. Jake had 239 00:10:22,799 --> 00:10:25,320 three h three. Bear has nine rushing touchdowns three, So 240 00:10:25,519 --> 00:10:28,279 Jake has seventy four more total yards and Bear one 241 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,919 more touchdown, but the turnover to interception ratio is way different. 242 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,799 Jake took more sacks, Beart's not, and Jake turned the 243 00:10:34,799 --> 00:10:36,879 football over more. So who's been the better quarterback in 244 00:10:36,919 --> 00:10:38,240 Europeion through the eight games. 245 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,159 Speaker 3: It's been Bear and it's not even close. You know, 246 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,519 he's not putting the ball in jeopardy, he's not taking sacks. 247 00:10:44,799 --> 00:10:48,279 There's a toughness there. There's a calmness and a composure there. 248 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,399 I mean, retz Left was awesome in two minute drills 249 00:10:51,399 --> 00:10:53,799 and when it was you know, when it was showtime, right, 250 00:10:54,279 --> 00:10:56,320 but in some of those other situations and games it 251 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,600 got a little disy. Bear is just the composure and 252 00:10:59,639 --> 00:11:04,559 the and the ability to the grace under pressure, the 253 00:11:05,639 --> 00:11:08,320 ability to take care of the football. That's the best 254 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,440 thing that Aaron Roderick values in his quarterback is being 255 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:12,600 able to take care of the football. 256 00:11:12,879 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 4: And Bear is doing that about as good as anybody at. 257 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 3: BYU has under Roderick. And so yeah, it's got to 258 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,919 be Bear. I mean, just to do what he's done 259 00:11:19,919 --> 00:11:23,679 as a true freshman. He's won four road games. He's 260 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,360 not getting sacked the offense feels like it's flowing better, 261 00:11:26,799 --> 00:11:29,399 and I feel like Bear, you know, you could look, 262 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:33,519 I Likedretts laugh. I'm not trying to tick the guy 263 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:34,120 while he's down. 264 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 4: Obviously he's done great at Tulane. 265 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,759 Speaker 3: I just felt like there you could name so many 266 00:11:38,799 --> 00:11:41,440 different things he did over the first eight games last 267 00:11:41,519 --> 00:11:44,120 year where it's like, all right, BYU got bailed out here, 268 00:11:44,159 --> 00:11:46,600 BYU got bailed out here, Like there were times where 269 00:11:46,639 --> 00:11:50,039 By was overcoming his mistakes, and I feel like Bear 270 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,759 hasn't really done that. You know, he's he's stepped up 271 00:11:52,799 --> 00:11:55,600 when boy he's needed him too. He's he's orchestrated some 272 00:11:55,639 --> 00:11:59,879 really impressive drives. The only play I can remember Bear 273 00:12:00,399 --> 00:12:03,480 that was Rhett Slough esque was when I think it 274 00:12:03,519 --> 00:12:05,200 was Arizona where the snap was. 275 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 4: High and it bounced off his head and he picked 276 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:08,559 it up and he rolled out and he tried to 277 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,159 find Carson Ryan downfield. He tried to make stuffing. 278 00:12:10,879 --> 00:12:12,799 Speaker 3: Out of nothing and he got picked off. And I 279 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:14,720 was like, Okay, we're looking at Jake Retzloff right now. 280 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,879 But other than that, I mean Bear the Stanford game, 281 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,799 he struggled a bit, but he got better as it 282 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,919 went on and since then, it feels like every week 283 00:12:21,919 --> 00:12:24,679 it's like, Wow, Bow, he's got a guy. Bear's legit. 284 00:12:25,519 --> 00:12:27,840 There's there's nothing to worry about it quarterback right now. 285 00:12:28,519 --> 00:12:31,440 Whereas last year with red Slough, I mean, you never 286 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,720 really had that kind of security. I mean, he looked 287 00:12:34,759 --> 00:12:36,639 the part at times, he made big plays, but at 288 00:12:36,639 --> 00:12:38,639 the same time, you were always kind of waiting for 289 00:12:38,639 --> 00:12:40,879 the other shoot to drop, and it kind of did 290 00:12:40,919 --> 00:12:43,360 because Utah he wasn't very good. Obviously, he came down 291 00:12:43,399 --> 00:12:45,759 the field to win Kansas, he wasn't good. The first 292 00:12:45,799 --> 00:12:46,759 half of Arizona State. 293 00:12:46,799 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 4: He wasn't good. 294 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,039 Speaker 3: Like as soon as November hit, it was a different 295 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,080 Jake Ritzloth. I mean, he was terriblely elimible. And Bear 296 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,559 is getting better every week and he's not putting he's 297 00:12:55,639 --> 00:12:57,960 not putting the offense in danger, and so it's got 298 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,360 to be Bear. Jake had a very Jake was good 299 00:13:00,399 --> 00:13:03,159 last year. Roderick, what he was able to do with 300 00:13:03,159 --> 00:13:06,080 with Jake was really impressive. But I mean, this is 301 00:13:06,399 --> 00:13:08,639 this is Roderick's Apex Mountain, what he's been able to 302 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,080 do with Bear, and Bear's past every test, he's he's 303 00:13:12,159 --> 00:13:14,919 just I mean he's he's the centaur, right, he just 304 00:13:15,159 --> 00:13:15,879 he can't be beat. 305 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 4: It's been amazing to see. 306 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,799 Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, as long as we're talking Bear versus Jake, 307 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:26,279 Ron's been throwing this hypothetical out probably since Jake Transford 308 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,519 a five to twelve matchup in the in the playoffs 309 00:13:29,519 --> 00:13:32,039 where BYU hosts a Tulane and things are you know, 310 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,279 right now, it seems like there's a possibility. Is there 311 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,519 a world to you where BYU hosts Tulane in a 312 00:13:38,519 --> 00:13:41,320 playoff matchup and we get to see the Bear versus Jake? 313 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's definitely a possibility. I think the 314 00:13:45,399 --> 00:13:48,600 way for BYU b YU would have to go into 315 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,440 the Big twelfth title game with one loss and then 316 00:13:51,519 --> 00:13:53,759 lose the Big twelfth Title game because I don't. 317 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 4: Think they hosted. I don't think they'd be able to 318 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:56,279 host the game. 319 00:13:56,159 --> 00:13:58,279 Speaker 3: If they didn't win the conference or if they won 320 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,399 the conference, right, I think they get a buy only 321 00:14:00,759 --> 00:14:03,480 the playoff, the playoff one that's weird, but so I 322 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,080 think they'd have to go either into the Big twelve title. 323 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 4: Game undefeated or with one loss. They get in that 324 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:09,120 large bid. 325 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 3: You would think if if the rest of the country 326 00:14:11,399 --> 00:14:12,799 shakes out the way it does, and then. 327 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 4: Tu Lane has one loss, I think to Ole Miss, so. 328 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 3: They would have to win out and they'd probably be 329 00:14:17,639 --> 00:14:19,639 the G five team just because nobody else is really 330 00:14:19,639 --> 00:14:22,159 seizing that. So yeah, I think it's possible. I mean, 331 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:24,759 I think the playoff committee too, would love that kind 332 00:14:24,759 --> 00:14:27,879 of drama. I mean, Jake Redsloft's like a national name 333 00:14:28,159 --> 00:14:31,039 in college football, even dating back to BYU, but then 334 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,559 the exit from BYU and being the Jewish quarterback being 335 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,799 at TU Lane and just what they've done, it would 336 00:14:35,799 --> 00:14:37,480 just I mean, that's a great storyline. So I mean, 337 00:14:37,679 --> 00:14:39,799 I'm not gonna run to Vegas and put put it down, 338 00:14:39,879 --> 00:14:42,799 put money down, like, oh yeah, Retsloft's coming to BYU 339 00:14:43,279 --> 00:14:44,960 with two Lane and they're gonna But I think it's 340 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,960 definitely possible, and that would be an awesome matchup. And 341 00:14:47,279 --> 00:14:49,320 I mean, let's be real, boy, you would would be 342 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,399 two Lane by at least ten points. Retslof has that 343 00:14:52,399 --> 00:14:54,440 that dog in him right for lack of a better term, 344 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,879 but I just think j Hill defense, with with that 345 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,879 time to prepare and knowing what they know about Redsloff, 346 00:15:00,159 --> 00:15:02,399 think the cards are stacked against him at that point. 347 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,919 Speaker 4: But at the same time, like you think about this season. 348 00:15:06,679 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 3: Would b yub eight and oh this year with Jake 349 00:15:09,039 --> 00:15:11,080 Rretz laugh, I don't think they would. I think they'd 350 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:12,840 have at least two or three losses. I don't think 351 00:15:12,879 --> 00:15:15,080 they would have won the Colorado game going down early. 352 00:15:16,159 --> 00:15:19,759 The Utah game. You could make the case for Iowa State. 353 00:15:19,879 --> 00:15:23,240 I don't think they come back from that Arizona. 354 00:15:23,559 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. 355 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,919 Speaker 4: Man, just would they be eight no with Jake retzloft 356 00:15:26,919 --> 00:15:28,720 And I think the answer to that is a resounding no. 357 00:15:29,639 --> 00:15:31,559 But Bear Bockmeyer is aiden though, and so I think 358 00:15:31,559 --> 00:15:32,639 that gives him the edge. Right. 359 00:15:33,519 --> 00:15:35,679 Speaker 1: That's a good point that you bring up. Would this 360 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,440 team be a to no with Jake rest laugh? 361 00:15:37,559 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: That's a question that we're gonna have to pose in 362 00:15:39,879 --> 00:15:42,320 the final hour here of Cougar Sports on esp and 363 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,120 the fans where with Jackson Paine Action Jackson of the 364 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,039 Desert News. Yeah, that's I didn't really think about that 365 00:15:48,279 --> 00:15:51,440 to that degree. You just then the brand and I 366 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,559 guess the narrative in the storyline was, well, okay, you 367 00:15:53,559 --> 00:15:56,360 get a fifty or six year quarterback back and he 368 00:15:56,399 --> 00:15:58,679 would just lead this team to that that's not a guarantee. 369 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:00,360 Now that you bring it up of if they go 370 00:16:00,399 --> 00:16:02,159 down early to the Iowa State game, is he able 371 00:16:02,159 --> 00:16:02,919 to bring them back? 372 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:03,799 Speaker 1: That's a good point. 373 00:16:04,039 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you give maybe the Utah game, but you bring 374 00:16:05,919 --> 00:16:08,759 up a valid point in the other games Colorado, does 375 00:16:08,759 --> 00:16:10,720 he fumble the bag away? Arizona? Is he able to 376 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,840 get you to win in overtime if they're down ten? 377 00:16:12,919 --> 00:16:14,279 I believe he would have been able to do that. 378 00:16:14,559 --> 00:16:16,559 But those are good points, not a lot of things 379 00:16:16,559 --> 00:16:20,600 that people maybe think about. So you gotta look at 380 00:16:20,639 --> 00:16:23,080 what Bear's doing and remember that this is just year one. 381 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,759 He's got at least two more years before Ryder Lions 382 00:16:26,039 --> 00:16:27,960 comes in. So there's a lot that you have to like. 383 00:16:28,039 --> 00:16:30,519 And ay, Rod Mike maybe get poached at the end 384 00:16:30,519 --> 00:16:33,080 of this year. He could potentially with what he's doing 385 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,039 with a true freshman quarterback. Don't think he would like 386 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,559 to leave, but hey, he's gonna earn this money and 387 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,559 I think he's gonna get a few more dollars maybe 388 00:16:39,559 --> 00:16:40,960 in that pocket by the end of the season with 389 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:41,600 what he's doing. 390 00:16:42,639 --> 00:16:43,799 Speaker 4: Why would Roger leave? 391 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,279 Speaker 3: I mean, money's obviously a big thing, but b why 392 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:50,799 he's paying their assistance. Well, he's got bear Bachmeier that's working. Well, 393 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,840 he's got ryder Lions in the pipeline. The Big twelve 394 00:16:53,879 --> 00:16:56,039 is wide open every year. I mean, he could go 395 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:57,039 to the playoff every year. 396 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 4: I don't. I don't know if he. 397 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 3: Wants to be a head coach because you think at 398 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,200 this point, like with his track record, if he wanted 399 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:04,599 to be a head coach, he probably would have been 400 00:17:04,599 --> 00:17:04,960 by now. 401 00:17:05,039 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: So true, I don't. 402 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:07,799 Speaker 4: I don't really think Rogers's going anywhere. 403 00:17:07,839 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 5: Man. 404 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 4: I just think the grass is too green in Provo. 405 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 2: Grass is not always green on the other side, and 406 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:14,640 it's really green right now in Provo. 407 00:17:14,799 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 5: Well, if we're talking about like coach leaving, I would 408 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:19,680 make the case. So there's a lot of a lot 409 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,160 of noise around Dion going somewhere because I don't think 410 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:24,440 Deon stays in Colorado. 411 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:25,759 Speaker 1: We often agree with that. 412 00:17:25,839 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 5: Yet if a Colorado opened up and called Jay Hill, 413 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,759 I think that would be a realistic job that Jay 414 00:17:32,839 --> 00:17:34,440 Hill would leave b YU for. What are your what 415 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:35,400 are your thoughts on that? 416 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,519 Speaker 3: I think you know, Jay Jay is interesting. I think 417 00:17:40,559 --> 00:17:42,839 Jay is more likely to leave than than Roderick By 418 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:44,519 by a long shot. But at the same time, like, 419 00:17:44,839 --> 00:17:46,640 the only time that Jay Hill has ever left the 420 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,319 state of Utah for football was when he played two 421 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,799 years at Ricks. You know, he played at Utah. Afterward, 422 00:17:53,319 --> 00:17:56,400 he coached at Utah, he coached at Weaver State, stayed 423 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:00,519 at Weaver State for a long time. He's he's at BYU, 424 00:18:00,559 --> 00:18:04,200 He's had his health problems. Like I just feel like, look, 425 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,440 he could totally leave, and I get that, but it's 426 00:18:06,519 --> 00:18:09,400 kind of the same way like Bronco Mendenhall could have 427 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,200 left a million times before he finally took the Virginia job, 428 00:18:12,559 --> 00:18:14,880 And Bronco is a different cat man Like he he 429 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,880 his way of thinking and his decision making process was 430 00:18:18,039 --> 00:18:21,440 very unique and was not standards as to what most 431 00:18:21,519 --> 00:18:24,160 coaches would think or do. And I think j Hill's 432 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:30,119 not like in the Bronco area of weirdness for lack 433 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,839 of a better term, But I think his decision making 434 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:34,480 process is going to be a lot different than most 435 00:18:34,519 --> 00:18:37,400 and I think he's going to weigh things differently. I 436 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,440 just think, you know, he could have gone to Utah 437 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,759 State this past offseason. I think there were other jobs 438 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,440 and other opportunities. And at the same time, it's like 439 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,279 he's with Kloney who's his buddy, and Gary Anderson's at BYU, 440 00:18:48,319 --> 00:18:50,640 and just the recruiting success and the ability to win 441 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:51,480 in the Big twelve, like. 442 00:18:51,559 --> 00:18:53,799 Speaker 4: They're having fun. Man, I don't know if anybody's rushing 443 00:18:53,839 --> 00:18:55,079 to make any big life changes. 444 00:18:55,079 --> 00:18:57,039 Speaker 3: And so yeah, he could totally leave, but at the 445 00:18:57,079 --> 00:18:59,480 same time, it's like why ruin a good thing? 446 00:18:59,559 --> 00:19:03,319 Speaker 4: So we'll see about that. But I just think for now, like, yeah, I. 447 00:19:03,279 --> 00:19:05,079 Speaker 3: Don't think Roger's going anywhere, and I think Jake could 448 00:19:05,079 --> 00:19:06,839 if you wanted to. But it's a matter of what 449 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,400 he values and his decision making, which obviously isn't going 450 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,799 to match what most coaches think and do. 451 00:19:12,319 --> 00:19:14,559 Speaker 2: Everyone wants to be a head coach, but sometimes you 452 00:19:14,599 --> 00:19:17,279 know the situation that you're in. Things change When your 453 00:19:17,319 --> 00:19:20,599 situation is the perfect situation. I know need to be 454 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,599 take perfect with the grand of salt, but it's really 455 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,720 hard to look at Aerontic and j Hill's situation and say, hey, 456 00:19:25,799 --> 00:19:28,160 we really don't have a great situation. You have a 457 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,519 better situation than a lot of coaches, even the counter 458 00:19:30,839 --> 00:19:33,480 parts up north at Utah, than a lot of other 459 00:19:33,559 --> 00:19:35,480 coaches here. Jackson Pain of the Desert News on the 460 00:19:35,559 --> 00:19:38,279 line JPU. We had talked about college football playoff format. 461 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,160 We'll end on this and get you out of here. 462 00:19:40,519 --> 00:19:43,519 On this note, Joe Klatt talked about extending to a 463 00:19:43,599 --> 00:19:47,319 twenty fourteen playoff format. You get the top four seeds 464 00:19:47,319 --> 00:19:52,440 of the ACC, Big ten, SEC, and Big twelve in first. 465 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: Are you in favor? You know of it expanding? 466 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,759 Speaker 2: I guess the sixteen teams as number one and then 467 00:19:56,839 --> 00:19:59,960 number two if they do expand to this twenty fourteen playoff? 468 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,319 Speaker 1: Is that too much? I feel like that's a lot 469 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:02,839 of teams. 470 00:20:04,079 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 3: Twenty four is too many teams. Sixteen is perfect. I 471 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,599 don't like the buys. The twelve is great because it's 472 00:20:09,599 --> 00:20:11,960 more than four, but sixteen is where it's at. I 473 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:16,799 feel like sixteen you can get like sixteen. I don't 474 00:20:16,839 --> 00:20:20,440 like buys. I think everybody should have to play. I 475 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,680 think if you have sixteen seed Boise State in one 476 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,920 seed Ohio State, I think they have to play each other. 477 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 4: That would be really fun. 478 00:20:28,319 --> 00:20:32,279 Speaker 3: I think, yeah, that way you have more like home 479 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,960 site games with the sixteen team playoff too, and with 480 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,039 no buys. So I'm all about the sixteen team playoff. 481 00:20:39,599 --> 00:20:43,240 It'd be cool if every conference got at least two teams, 482 00:20:44,079 --> 00:20:46,400 so you have two like I guess, if you go 483 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:50,440 to the conference title game, you get an automatic playoff bid, 484 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,359 which would be cool, but then might take away some 485 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:56,519 of the conference title game. It takes away some of 486 00:20:56,559 --> 00:20:57,279 that intrigue. 487 00:20:57,279 --> 00:20:59,559 Speaker 4: But maybe I mean, just thinking out loud here, you have. 488 00:20:59,519 --> 00:21:03,319 Speaker 3: A powerful or so eight teams at least are coming 489 00:21:03,319 --> 00:21:05,799 from that power for then you get at least two 490 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,720 G five teams. That gets you to ten, and then 491 00:21:08,759 --> 00:21:10,759 you can have six at large teams and that's where 492 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,160 you know, that's where things get interesting with the selection process. 493 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,519 So yeah, I'm all about a sixteen teed playoff. I 494 00:21:16,559 --> 00:21:18,880 alsought from day one. Sixteen was the sweet spot, and 495 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,400 twelve is better than four, like I said, but it's 496 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,599 not as good as sixteen, And so I would love 497 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,400 a sixteen teed payoff, but I think twenty four is 498 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,160 overdoing it. It's like it's like expanding the NCAA tournament 499 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,160 field in basketball. It's like just there's there's something about 500 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,440 sixty four or sixty eight teams that's just so special 501 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,960 and so fun, and let's not water it down. Let's 502 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,640 make let's make the playoff a real achievement, let's make 503 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,759 let's make sure that there's not We're not just handing 504 00:21:41,799 --> 00:21:44,759 out participation trophies, right, Let's let's make sure that everyone's 505 00:21:44,759 --> 00:21:47,519 earning it and that's still a real badge of honor 506 00:21:47,559 --> 00:21:49,799 to wear, but also make it to where it's intriguing 507 00:21:49,799 --> 00:21:52,599 and fun and gives teams the best chance to make 508 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,079 the most of it. So I'm all about sixteen, not 509 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:56,559 about six not about twenty four. 510 00:21:56,759 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 2: I'm all about opportunity as well. But I do think 511 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,400 if you get participate basing trophies, that's how it is. 512 00:22:01,759 --> 00:22:04,079 My dad and saw that in me from jump. He 513 00:22:04,079 --> 00:22:05,640 would always get mad at me because I didn't want 514 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,559 to take the trophy. Michael, did I win first place? 515 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:08,079 Speaker 3: Is? 516 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 5: No? 517 00:22:08,279 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 1: Well was I in the championship game? 518 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:09,799 Speaker 2: No? 519 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: Then I don't want a trophy like That's how I did. 520 00:22:12,319 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 2: So I think that's a good philosophy to go by 521 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,599 you bring up, because twenty four could be way too oversaturate. 522 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,440 I think sixteen's perfect, and I took build off of 523 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,160 your point of what you said to go with you. 524 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,200 I think the conference game can still be beauty as 525 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,079 a good thing. If you win, you get a higher seed. 526 00:22:27,799 --> 00:22:29,759 But if you lose, then you might have to go 527 00:22:29,799 --> 00:22:31,400 on the road. So then maybe if hosting that first 528 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,160 round game, you might have to go on the road. 529 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,920 And I think every team, if you were to ask them, 530 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,640 would rather host a college football playoff game that have 531 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,880 to go on the road to start that off in 532 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,759 a tough environment with a different matchup, different conference like 533 00:22:42,799 --> 00:22:46,119 by You would rather host a two lane Illinois or 534 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,559 a USC or a Washington whoever, I'm just naming other 535 00:22:48,559 --> 00:22:51,079 conferences thinking out loud, like yourself, rather than going the 536 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,079 road to an ole miss or an organ I think 537 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,559 all schools could agree they rather have home field advantage 538 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,519 than hit the road, for sure, no doubt. So I 539 00:22:59,559 --> 00:23:01,960 love that you brought up that point, JP before we 540 00:23:02,079 --> 00:23:04,920 let you go. What's the best way we our listeners 541 00:23:05,319 --> 00:23:07,400 can support you what you do and how you do it? 542 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: Brother? 543 00:23:09,039 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, you can follow me on Twitter at Jackson 544 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,799 five pain like Jackson five the band, you know. But uh, 545 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,440 and then you could go at deserret dot com find 546 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,319 all my stuff and me and Jay Drew and everybody 547 00:23:20,319 --> 00:23:23,039 else who covers BYU are writing on the air, and yeah, 548 00:23:23,079 --> 00:23:25,680 I mean just social media and clicks online. That's the 549 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,119 best way and love love talking to fans, and love 550 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,720 talking to to Cougar believers. It's it's a great time 551 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,960 to talk ball. So yeah, hit me up and then 552 00:23:33,279 --> 00:23:33,880 read my stuff. 553 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,759 Speaker 1: It's fun. Gotta read his stuff. 554 00:23:35,839 --> 00:23:39,319 Speaker 2: Number five Jackson, he's got the number five, just like 555 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,240 his quarterback with the Commanders. He give me a plug 556 00:23:42,599 --> 00:23:46,160 number five as well. Mister Jaden Daniels did that right 557 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,200 through on the spot. Give you a love plug right there, neim. 558 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:49,880 I got to get healthy really like the way he 559 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,240 plays ball. Need him to get healthy though, no doubt. 560 00:23:52,319 --> 00:23:54,799 But JP, we appreciate your time today. 561 00:23:54,839 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: Brother. We'll catch up with you in the next few weeks. 562 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks guys, good commanders. 563 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 1: Hey go commanders. 564 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 2: As he said, a p A wanted to just recap 565 00:24:03,839 --> 00:24:05,200 a few things before we go to break. 566 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:06,599 Speaker 1: I know we don't how much time. 567 00:24:07,279 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 2: But we discussed it a little bit, you know, Jake, 568 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,519 you know Bear Tulane by you. 569 00:24:17,039 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: Just your thoughts on the entire matter earlier in that segment. 570 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 5: I think it's not I don't know if it's a 571 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,839 fair comparison for me, and I've heard this a lot 572 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:29,839 of the Jake wouldn't be eight to no this year because. 573 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 1: If joh take right there, Jake wouldn't be a no. 574 00:24:32,079 --> 00:24:34,519 Speaker 5: And Jackson's not the only one to say I heard 575 00:24:34,559 --> 00:24:37,759 a lot actually okay, because they don't think he'd come 576 00:24:37,759 --> 00:24:40,839 back from the Arizona To be fair, the one game 577 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,319 that I don't think he wins is probably that Iowa 578 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:43,880 State game. 579 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a tough one. That's a real tough one. 580 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,559 Speaker 5: But at the same time, he probably could have because 581 00:24:48,559 --> 00:24:50,839 he was more of a like I viewed Jake as 582 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,759 a more of a thrower, run second, whereas Bear can 583 00:24:53,839 --> 00:24:58,240 sometimes be run first, throw second. And so in that game, 584 00:24:58,279 --> 00:25:00,599 I always State didn't have a corner that could cover. 585 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,559 They didn't have their corners, could not cover the grass 586 00:25:04,599 --> 00:25:07,160 they were standing on based on how they played, like 587 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,519 guard Park, when you let two receivers get over one 588 00:25:10,559 --> 00:25:15,640 hundred yards on you, there's a problem there. There's a 589 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,920 real problem there, and I think Jake probably could have 590 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,880 torn them up. I think Jake could have won that game. 591 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,440 But if we're talking about the Arizona game and the 592 00:25:25,519 --> 00:25:28,359 other the Colorado game, we just make the assumption he 593 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,920 couldn't make he couldn't come like he couldn't win because 594 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,279 he couldn't come back there's not a guarantee he would 595 00:25:33,319 --> 00:25:35,880 get them in that hole in the first place. The 596 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,440 way that Jake plays, Jake comes out firing, and I 597 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,519 think Jake probably could have kept us in the game 598 00:25:40,559 --> 00:25:42,720 at the beginning of those games. So I think it's 599 00:25:42,759 --> 00:25:45,240 a little bit unfair to just say Jake wouldn't be 600 00:25:45,279 --> 00:25:47,720 eight to no. I think b Wy you probably would 601 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,559 be eight to no. The difference I think is where 602 00:25:50,599 --> 00:25:52,839 I was I texted my friends is I don't think 603 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,680 Bear loses the Kansas game last year, like I don't 604 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,839 think he loses that game. That's where I think that 605 00:25:59,759 --> 00:26:02,759 state because I think Jake easily could tear up this 606 00:26:03,519 --> 00:26:05,559 easy schedule we've had, Like it's been easy outside of 607 00:26:05,559 --> 00:26:08,319 two games. Let's be real, and Arizona is a decent team, 608 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,440 so maybe three games offense is very competitive. But I 609 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,759 think that I think Bear could have won that Kansas 610 00:26:13,839 --> 00:26:16,519 game last year, and I don't I'm not sure about 611 00:26:16,519 --> 00:26:18,880 the Arizona State game just because Camas Gottaby is an 612 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,880 absolute dog. I think we probably still lose that game, 613 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:25,759 but I think we would have been eleven and one 614 00:26:25,799 --> 00:26:27,920 in a conference championship game if we get this year's 615 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,400 Bear last year is where I would say Bear is 616 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:31,039 better than Jake. 617 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,519 Speaker 2: Bring up a very good point that I really didn't 618 00:26:33,559 --> 00:26:37,119 think about, is what would Bear have done in that 619 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,119 Kansas and Arizona State game. Let's just say the Arizona 620 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:41,640 State's are lost. They're the best team. I don't want 621 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,240 to disrespect them. They proved everything last year and proved 622 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,720 people wrong this year. Really won't know it. Still a 623 00:26:46,759 --> 00:26:49,000 lot of football left. But the Kansas game, I think 624 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,759 beats Kansas. I don't even think they beat him. I 625 00:26:50,799 --> 00:26:51,559 think they blow him out. 626 00:26:52,079 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 5: I think I think he puts thirty five. 627 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,599 Speaker 2: I think he puts at least thirty five, if not 628 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,839 thirty eight, maybe can say forty one at the max. 629 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,480 I do agree, and I believe you are using the 630 00:26:59,519 --> 00:27:01,640 title game. But this year, with this quarterback, with the 631 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,119 way he takes care of the football, I do agree 632 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:07,400 with Jackson on this note. I don't think that Byu 633 00:27:07,559 --> 00:27:09,839 is going to be in bad situations because I haven't 634 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,720 seen it yet of Bear turning the football over. He's 635 00:27:12,759 --> 00:27:15,680 had moments right the Arizona game where you can't really 636 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:16,680 throw the football at it. 637 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,279 Speaker 1: In West Virginia, where a guy. 638 00:27:18,079 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 2: Makes a good place so you get him out of 639 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,279 the way, but only three interceptions three games. 640 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,559 Speaker 1: And Bear has hasn't turned over a fumble either. 641 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 5: Bear's turned it over a few times, but he hasn't 642 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,799 turned it over in critical times of the game, like 643 00:27:29,839 --> 00:27:32,720 the turnovers against West Virginia. We were gonna win no 644 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:33,119 matter what. 645 00:27:33,759 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 1: Never did turn it over in their part of the field. 646 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:36,240 They have to go back. 647 00:27:36,519 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 5: Well except for the fumble, Yeah, that was the West 648 00:27:39,039 --> 00:27:41,720 one one, but it wasn't like a critical Never in 649 00:27:41,759 --> 00:27:44,000 that game. Did you feel like Byu was in any 650 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,119 danger of losing control of that game? 651 00:27:46,319 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 1: Nope. 652 00:27:47,039 --> 00:27:51,319 Speaker 5: But Jake had some terminal turnover like bad time turnovers 653 00:27:51,839 --> 00:27:56,200 end of the Arizona State game Kansas end of the half. 654 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,759 You know. So that's that's where I think the difference 655 00:27:59,799 --> 00:28:01,119 is Bears better than Jake. 656 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,799 Speaker 1: I hear you in that, and I second and I 657 00:28:03,799 --> 00:28:05,680 echo that, no doubt about it. 658 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 2: He has had a fumble, like you said the Western 659 00:28:07,519 --> 00:28:09,640 the game, don't want people coming, and I count that 660 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,599 as a fumble because he counts on the stat sheet. 661 00:28:11,759 --> 00:28:13,160 It's more of a pitch that he's trying to get 662 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,200 it out there. I look more at the fumbles that 663 00:28:15,279 --> 00:28:19,480 Jake had, is okay, he's handing it off. He's miscommunicating 664 00:28:19,519 --> 00:28:22,559 it with with Aiden Robbins back in the day, right 665 00:28:22,599 --> 00:28:24,119 with l J he's fumbling the ball. 666 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: Thinks we were pazzis. 667 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 2: He's like, your exchanges are bad or you're fumbling at 668 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,519 yourself when you're running like that. Bear's not doing that. 669 00:28:31,559 --> 00:28:33,240 Bears had a few moments with two hands where people 670 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,119 have almost knocked the loose. So need the Bear tar 671 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,319 tart to maybe clean those up going into the end zone. 672 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:38,960 I know two hands might think that way, but it 673 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,599 actually might be easier to strip. 674 00:28:40,599 --> 00:28:42,359 Speaker 5: It needs to be two hands up against the body, 675 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:42,759 not just. 676 00:28:42,799 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's up against his stomach. 677 00:28:44,559 --> 00:28:46,119 Speaker 2: So when he's running and people are hearing us, but 678 00:28:46,119 --> 00:28:47,839 they're looking at me when I say this, because we 679 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,200 actually have some footballs in our Banderwill Banderwell studios. He 680 00:28:51,319 --> 00:28:53,680 runs with it like this and this is not good 681 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,680 because that can cause the fumble. He needs to run 682 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,880 with it like this where he's got the So I 683 00:28:58,119 --> 00:28:59,920 understand what you're saying. I think most fans would have 684 00:29:00,039 --> 00:29:02,039 would agree with that. But that was a great conversation 685 00:29:02,079 --> 00:29:04,880 with Jackson Pain. If you're listening live, we appreciate that. 686 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:09,599 If you're getting it on the podcast on iTunes, Speaker, iHeartRadio, Spotify, 687 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:10,799 give us a rate and give us a real You 688 00:29:10,839 --> 00:29:12,119 appreciate it when you do. 689 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:12,759 Speaker 1: Thank you for this. 690 00:29:12,839 --> 00:29:14,319 Speaker 2: That was a great interview with Jackson Pain of the 691 00:29:14,359 --> 00:29:16,680 Desert News and that segment was brought to you by 692 00:29:16,759 --> 00:29:18,480 Dental Pros of Utah dot com. 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