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<v Speaker 1>What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein Chronicles. Over at the New York Times, they have

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<v Speaker 1>a new article out discussing the inside freak out as

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<v Speaker 1>they call it, at the White House over the Epstein files,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have no doubt that there was all sorts

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<v Speaker 1>of freaking out, especially considering the way that they handled it.

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<v Speaker 1>Could it have been any worse? Honestly, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if anything has ever been handled more poorly by any

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<v Speaker 1>administration in the history of the country. And I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>even kidding when I say that, And then they have

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<v Speaker 1>the audacity to turn around and say to you, were

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<v Speaker 1>the most transparent administration in the history of the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, come on, they have to be trolling, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's what you would think. But unfortunately, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the reality that we're living in and our lives

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<v Speaker 1>are being managed by a bunch of scoundrels that not

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<v Speaker 1>only broke bread with Jeffrey Epstein, but now have the

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<v Speaker 1>audio audacity to cover it all up. So today we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to dive into that New York Times article and

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to see what's up headlined inside the White

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<v Speaker 1>House freak Out over the Epstein Files. This article was

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<v Speaker 1>authored by Maggie Aberman and Jonathan Swan. On July seventeenth,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five, at around six o'clock in the evening,

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump's top officials filed into the White House Situation Room,

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<v Speaker 1>the secure bunker where classified in high stakes national security

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<v Speaker 1>matters are discussed and decided. This was where President Barack Obama,

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<v Speaker 1>along with Vice President Joe Biden, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton,

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<v Speaker 1>and the president's national security team watched the raid that

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<v Speaker 1>ended with the death of Osama bin Laden in twenty eleven. Now, however,

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's most senior advisors had gathered without them to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out how to gain some measure of control over a

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<v Speaker 1>very different kind of crisis threatening to engulf the presidency.

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<v Speaker 1>The Epstein Files. I've never seen an administration fumble so badly.

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<v Speaker 1>They had everything queued up. They were going around during

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<v Speaker 1>the campaign talking about how they're going to release all

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<v Speaker 1>the information, They're going to hold people accountable, They're going

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<v Speaker 1>to do this, They're going to do that. Then they

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<v Speaker 1>get into office, they get a look at the files

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<v Speaker 1>and they realize that their boy, Donald Trump and all

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<v Speaker 1>of his friends are littered throughout the documents. So of

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<v Speaker 1>course that caused Donald Trump to slam on the brakes

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<v Speaker 1>and kill the process before it even got off the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the goal, and if it wasn't for the

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<v Speaker 1>discharge petition, it would have worked. And if you were

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<v Speaker 1>wondering why Trump was so mad at Thomas Massey, that's why.

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<v Speaker 1>Because without Thomas Massey and Roe Conna, and without Lauren Bobert,

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<v Speaker 1>Nancy Mace, without Marjorie Taylor Green, we never get a

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<v Speaker 1>look at this. So look, I'm not a big fan

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<v Speaker 1>of all those people when it comes to all their politics, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but when it comes to this issue, mad respect all

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<v Speaker 1>of them. They all stood up when everybody else was

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<v Speaker 1>sitting down. Where were the rest of the members of

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<v Speaker 1>the GOP. Oh that's right? Too scared to Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>to stand up for people who have been victimized. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't just mean the survivors, I mean all of us.

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<v Speaker 1>These people have been stealing from us hand over fist

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<v Speaker 1>for decades. But I guess that's no big deal either.

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<v Speaker 1>Ten days earlier, the Justice Department in the FBI had

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<v Speaker 1>jointly released a memo that bluntly stated that their review

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<v Speaker 1>had found no client list of powerful men for whom

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<v Speaker 1>the notorious pedophile Jeffrey Epstein had allegedly procured underage girls

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<v Speaker 1>and young women. No, I don't think there's a list,

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<v Speaker 1>but I can give you two names right off the

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<v Speaker 1>top of my head that girls were trafficked to, Jean

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<v Speaker 1>lu Brunel and Jess Stay. Jess Stale already admitted that

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<v Speaker 1>he had consensual sex with one of Epstein's assistants, and

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<v Speaker 1>if it's somebody that was also a victim, well there

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<v Speaker 1>you go. And on Fortunately, Jean Luke Brunel and Jeffrey Epstein,

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<v Speaker 1>they had a revolving door of girls that were being

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<v Speaker 1>abused between the two of them. And never mind all

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<v Speaker 1>the other scumbags that got involved. Should we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>George Mitchell or Bill Richardson or Glenn Dubin or a

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<v Speaker 1>Les Wexner, because all of them have been credibly accused,

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<v Speaker 1>no investigation, nobody being brought in, nothing. And so with

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<v Speaker 1>just those two dudes alone, it shows you that Jeffrey

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein traffic girls to other people. How many more people

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<v Speaker 1>do you want? How many other co conspirators would make

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<v Speaker 1>it trafficking? For you? Intended to put to rest years

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<v Speaker 1>of speculation and then a pressure campaign to release the

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<v Speaker 1>voluminous material in the department's possession. The memo instead had

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<v Speaker 1>the opposite effect, setting off a backlash that was notably

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<v Speaker 1>loud among the Magabase. Look, people should be giving credit

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<v Speaker 1>for that. The people that are MAGA, the people that

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<v Speaker 1>were a MEGA who decided that Donald Trump calling them

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<v Speaker 1>a trader was too much, that Donald Trum I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to cover this up was too much. Those people should

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<v Speaker 1>be applauded. It's not easy to go against you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all your friends and all your other beliefs and all

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff. So we should give them some credit. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So get to have a little grace. Not everybody's your enemy.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've told you a million times you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to work with people that you might not agree with

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<v Speaker 1>politically on a whole host of issues to get something

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<v Speaker 1>done here. But that's how politics works, right, That's what

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<v Speaker 1>Detonte is. You don't have negotiations with people that you

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<v Speaker 1>agree with. You negotiate with people that you might have

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<v Speaker 1>some disagreements with. And the best way to do that

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<v Speaker 1>is to find some middle ground. And if going after

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey Epstein and his network is not middle ground, then

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what is and it was about to

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<v Speaker 1>get worse. The Wall Street Journal was preparing a damaging

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<v Speaker 1>article about Trump's relationship with Epstein. The President's desperate attempts

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<v Speaker 1>to kill the story had filled. His team now had

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<v Speaker 1>to get everyone onto the same page about how to

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<v Speaker 1>count or the growing swarm of attention. They needed a

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<v Speaker 1>gesture of transparency to appease an increasingly angry base, but

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<v Speaker 1>also a way to convey the message that the president

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<v Speaker 1>was sympathetic to a supporter's concerns, which itself was a

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<v Speaker 1>problem because he clearly wasn't. Well, that's true. He called

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<v Speaker 1>ass all traders, he said, anybody who's following along with

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<v Speaker 1>this is his enemy. Basically, imagine the president of the

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<v Speaker 1>United States being mad because people want accountability for a

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<v Speaker 1>human trafficker, Like, have we fallen that far where people

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<v Speaker 1>hear this, look at this and just shrug their shoulders

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, ah, yeah, you know what, he has

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<v Speaker 1>a point. No, he doesn't have a point. He's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to cover this up. And this is what I've been

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<v Speaker 1>telling you guys. Everybody wants that splashy gatcha moment, but

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<v Speaker 1>in the real world, this sort of shit is messy,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not splashy, and a lot of times it's not salacious.

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<v Speaker 1>You get people like this on financial crimes, you get

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<v Speaker 1>them on covering up for other people. That's how it's

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<v Speaker 1>always worked, and for all these people that have been

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<v Speaker 1>carrying on about Donald Trump now for eight years, with

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of crazy stuff, Russia, pgate, you name it.

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<v Speaker 1>But what you have here is an actual cover up,

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<v Speaker 1>and instead of focusing on that, you have people focusing

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<v Speaker 1>on other things that are unprovable. Now that doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe that it happened, but it's not what

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<v Speaker 1>I believe. It's about what we can prove. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think you need to be some kind of famous

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<v Speaker 1>investigator to realize that the fix is in and that

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<v Speaker 1>there's a gigantic cover up being run and managed directly

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<v Speaker 1>by the White House. And I thoroughly believe that Vice

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<v Speaker 1>President JD. Vance took a seat at the head of

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<v Speaker 1>the table in the John F. Kennedy conference room of

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<v Speaker 1>the Situation Room complex. This is a huge problem, he

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<v Speaker 1>told the group. A right around him where the White

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<v Speaker 1>House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles, the White House Council

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<v Speaker 1>of Staff Taylor Buddha Witch, the Communications Director Stephen Chung,

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<v Speaker 1>the Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche, the Associate Attorney General

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<v Speaker 1>Todd Baby Billy Blanche, and the Deputy Chief of Staff

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<v Speaker 1>James Blair. Attorney General Pound Bondi, and the FBI Director

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<v Speaker 1>Cash Pttel joined on speakerphone. The Vice President appeared panicked

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<v Speaker 1>to others in the room about the way the subject

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<v Speaker 1>of Epstein was already dividing the MAGA coalition. Yo, he

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<v Speaker 1>knows what's up, one hundred percent. He knows. This whole

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<v Speaker 1>entire thing has caused big problems. And I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people that are going to be sitting

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<v Speaker 1>out the midterms because of it, and I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to have disastrous repercussions for the GOP. Some senior

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<v Speaker 1>officials had the impression that Vance had brought into the

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<v Speaker 1>darkest theories about Epstein and a cabal of predators hidden

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<v Speaker 1>within the country's ruling class. Well, is that wrong. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>not to the level that some people are trying to

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<v Speaker 1>make it out, but predators. Nonetheless, what being predators in

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<v Speaker 1>a financial sense is okay? I mean, people just don't

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<v Speaker 1>get it, and it drives me crazy. Breaking news. Were

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<v Speaker 1>all slaves, every last one of us. You got debt congratulations.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a slave, and you're a slave to Jeffrey Epstein's people,

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<v Speaker 1>the same people, by the way, that ruined the whole

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<v Speaker 1>entire world in two thousand and eight. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>think this is just about girls being trafficked or kids

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<v Speaker 1>being abused, you have not been paying attention. Wiles would

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<v Speaker 1>tell others that the Vice President had proved himself to

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<v Speaker 1>be a major conspiracy theorist. Another top official said later

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<v Speaker 1>that Vance had been pounding on the Epstein issue since

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<v Speaker 1>the release of the memo. He was privately pressing for

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<v Speaker 1>the administration to release all the Epstein files, everything in

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<v Speaker 1>the Justice Department's possession, even encouraging a congressional investigation. And look,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not wrong for that. I think that President Vance

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<v Speaker 1>is on point. And that was the campaign promise that

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<v Speaker 1>was made by the administration. So I think that Vance

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<v Speaker 1>is just trying to live up to that promise right now. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>don't take it for I think Vance is doing a

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<v Speaker 1>great job or I support him. I don't. But of

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<v Speaker 1>all these robber barons that populate Donald Trump's administration. It

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<v Speaker 1>looks like Vance is the only one that even cared.

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<v Speaker 1>Vance told the group that he believed that all files

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<v Speaker 1>should be released as soon as possible. He argued that

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<v Speaker 1>Congress was going to force the release of the files eventually.

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<v Speaker 1>It was already clear that a bipartisan coalition in favor

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<v Speaker 1>of subch action was forming on Capitol Hill, and the

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<v Speaker 1>momentum was going in one direction. If the administration got

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<v Speaker 1>out ahead of this and released everything voluntarily, including whatever

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<v Speaker 1>material existed about the president, it would at least get

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<v Speaker 1>credit for transparency. The alternative was to let the story

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<v Speaker 1>drag on for months, as information dripped out, each new revelation,

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<v Speaker 1>renewing a cycle of suspicion and fury. Better to rip

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<v Speaker 1>the bandage off and move on, yo. They would have

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<v Speaker 1>been so much better served to listen to jd Vance.

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<v Speaker 1>He had the right of it here. Get out ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Look, it might be embarrassing, and it might

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<v Speaker 1>cause you some grief, But the more you hide it,

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<v Speaker 1>the more you act like nothing's going on, the worse

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<v Speaker 1>it gets when people figure out that they've been bullshitted.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think Jay d Vance was hip to that.

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<v Speaker 1>But Unfortunately, the rest of the administration is dancing to

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump's tune. Vance even floated to colleagues an extraordinary

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<v Speaker 1>pr gambit that the White House and list Tucker Carlson

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<v Speaker 1>to interview Epstein's longtime girlfriend and co conspirator Glenn Maxwell

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<v Speaker 1>in prison. It might help the president if Maxwell was

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<v Speaker 1>willing to state that Trump had not been part of

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<v Speaker 1>any wrongdoing with Epstein. Well, that's a bad idea. That

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<v Speaker 1>was stupid, because nobody believes Glenn Maxwell. Only the people

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<v Speaker 1>that want to believe what Trump's saying, Right, It's all

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<v Speaker 1>about confirmation bias with a lot of people. Me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>following the evidence wherever it goes, and the evidence certainly

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<v Speaker 1>looks like Donald Trump is engaging in a cover up.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what the evidence is telling me. And the more

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<v Speaker 1>it I am. Even unsubstantiated allegations and anecdotes about Trump

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<v Speaker 1>should go out. Vans argued they were going to surface regardless,

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<v Speaker 1>and if the administration published them first, it would demonstrate

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<v Speaker 1>good faith and take the oxygen out of the conspiracy theories.

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<v Speaker 1>His arguments fell on skeptical ears, but some advisers thought

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<v Speaker 1>it would be good to have Justice Department officials call

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<v Speaker 1>a news conference to explain their position on the Epstein affair,

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<v Speaker 1>going beyond the memo that precipitated the crisis. At this

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<v Speaker 1>point in the meeting, Blair spoke up. With all due respect,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, the communication strategy of this group got us here.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's going to get us out. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you're going to go in front of the press,

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<v Speaker 1>began to ask pointed mock questions, demonstrating how difficult a

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<v Speaker 1>news conference might be. As the president's former defense attorney,

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<v Speaker 1>Blanche had a unique vantage point in the discussions. He

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<v Speaker 1>way the idea is being discussed against Trump's personal and

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<v Speaker 1>political interests. Blanche laid out what he saw as their

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<v Speaker 1>best option. And here's how the cover up works. Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump gives Blanche the orders, and then Blanche puts him

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<v Speaker 1>into action. And then later on down the road, if

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<v Speaker 1>has plausible deniability. And to also say that our conversations

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<v Speaker 1>think that that might occur at some point. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I think that Todd Blanche is going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>one that's holding the hot potato. Option one was to

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<v Speaker 1>petition federal district courts in Florida and New York to

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<v Speaker 1>unseal grand jury testimony the secret transcripts of prosecutors, presentational witnesses,

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<v Speaker 1>and evidence in their efforts to obtain indictments in past

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein related cases, as those were almost certain to contain

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<v Speaker 1>no significant new information. Everyone agreed that this option was

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<v Speaker 1>a good idea, and not only because the release was

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<v Speaker 1>unlikely to damage the president. And look, there's no doubt

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<v Speaker 1>that that was the goal. We talked about it at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, and I told you that the whole entire

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<v Speaker 1>we're working hard to get you all this information. We're

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<v Speaker 1>doing everything in our power every single day to be transparent. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes they're doing everything, but under the federal

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<v Speaker 1>rules of criminal procedure, the secrecy of grand jury material

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<v Speaker 1>is regarded by most federal judges as almost always inviolate,

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<v Speaker 1>and the bar for any release is exceptionally I if

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<v Speaker 1>the court refused to unseal them, as Blanche predicted, they

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump administration and onto the judges. Exactly what they

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<v Speaker 1>tried to do, and exactly what I pointed out at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, and all the better if the judges had

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<v Speaker 1>been appointed by Democratic presidents. Blant's suggestion would make it

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<v Speaker 1>appear that the White House wanted the materials released when

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<v Speaker 1>it was almost certain not to happen. We call that

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<v Speaker 1>a cover up where I'm from. Option number two was

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<v Speaker 1>the transcript. A twist on the idea proposed earlier by Vance.

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<v Speaker 1>Blanche offered to interview Maxwell himself. What if we get

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<v Speaker 1>her to talk to Congress, Vance suggested. Blanche raised the

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<v Speaker 1>possibility that Maxwell's lawyer might expect something in return for

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<v Speaker 1>her candor Oh she got it, didn't she? Nice little

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<v Speaker 1>The White House Council responded by laying out the available

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<v Speaker 1>choices without advocating any of them. Maxwell could be given

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<v Speaker 1>a pardon, he said, or she could have her sentence reduced.

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<v Speaker 1>At that several around the table spoke up to register

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<v Speaker 1>they're strong disapproval. Pardoning Maxwell a trafficker of young girls

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<v Speaker 1>would create a huge pr problem. Cheng said. He predicted

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<v Speaker 1>would be fanning out on TV telling their stories have

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<v Speaker 1>rippen the administration to shreds. Blair was also adamantly opposed

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<v Speaker 1>to a pardon. We can't offer Glenn Maxwell anything, he said.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why we would, and be if we

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<v Speaker 1>give Glenn Maxwell any sort of break whatsoever, and then

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<v Speaker 1>she turns around and says nice things about us, or

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<v Speaker 1>says nice things about us and we give her a break,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll undermine the entire point of her saying good things.

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<v Speaker 1>That'll feed the conspiracy theory. Period. If there's nothing for

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<v Speaker 1>her to say that hurts us, we shouldn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>offer her anything. That's a pretty fair assessment. No, The

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<v Speaker 1>jury material was the best course of action. Wyles told

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<v Speaker 1>the group she would discuss the matter with Trump and

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<v Speaker 1>ask if you would send a truth social post calling

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<v Speaker 1>for the release of the sealed grand jury documents. Just then,

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<v Speaker 1>the Wall Street Journal article they had been trying to

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<v Speaker 1>of the explosive report, which detailed how Trump and many

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<v Speaker 1>others had created birthday cards and letters to be assembled

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<v Speaker 1>by Maxwell into a special birthday book for Epstein in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and three. The birthday card attributed to Trump

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<v Speaker 1>depicted a nude woman, hand drawn and inscribed with an

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<v Speaker 1>imagined dialogue between the two men about a wonderful secret.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine a wonderful secret? Is it? The drawing was signed

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<v Speaker 1>with what appeared to be Trump's distinctive jagged sharpie signature

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<v Speaker 1>in a place of the woman. Subicare another part of

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<v Speaker 1>the cover up that looks to be provable. If this

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<v Speaker 1>You would think, like I've said a million times, that

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<v Speaker 1>a gigantic investigation into who and why. We haven't seen

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<v Speaker 1>that though, have we? Well that's weird considering Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>likes to use the FBI to go after everybody, but

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<v Speaker 1>not the people that allegedly forged this letter, seems a

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<v Speaker 1>bit suspect to me. In the days before publication, Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>in the effort to quash the story, called News Corp

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<v Speaker 1>Executive Robert Thompson, News Corp Owner Rubert Murdoch, the Journal's

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<v Speaker 1>editor in chief Emma Tucker, practically shouting. The President told Tucker,

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<v Speaker 1>who was British, that she must hate America. He told

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<v Speaker 1>her he would file a lawsuit. But none of his

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<v Speaker 1>bullying has worked, and now the group sat quietly reading

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<v Speaker 1>the full story in the situation room, whiles ready to

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<v Speaker 1>public denial for the President, which he soon posted on

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<v Speaker 1>social media. Shortly after this, the President posted again he

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<v Speaker 1>out in the situation Room, though it was clear he

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<v Speaker 1>amount of publicity given to Jeffrey Epstein, I've asked Attorney

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<v Speaker 1>General Pam Bondi to produce any and all pertinent grand

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<v Speaker 1>jury testimony subject to court approval. This scam perpetuated by

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<v Speaker 1>the Democrats should end right now. Scam. Imagine calling this

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<v Speaker 1>a scam. No, mister President, the only scam that's being

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<v Speaker 1>In response to a request for comment, a White House

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<v Speaker 1>in all Epstein related matters, adding that by releasing thousands

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<v Speaker 1>of pages of documents, cooperating with the House Oversight Committee

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<v Speaker 1>subpoena request, signing the Epstein Files Transparency Act, and calling

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<v Speaker 1>for more investigation into Epstein's Democrat friends, President Trump has

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<v Speaker 1>done more for Epstein's victims than anyone before him. Why

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<v Speaker 1>don't you ask the survivors how they feel about that comment,

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<v Speaker 1>because I assure you they do not agree. All right, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>the next episode dealing with the topic, We're gonna pick

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<v Speaker 1>up where we left off. All the information that goes

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<v Speaker 1>with this episode can be found in the description box.