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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Paranormal UK Radio Network, the best

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<v Speaker 1>in paranormal talk radio in the UK and around the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Era is the Irish or Gaelic word for Ireland. So

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<v Speaker 1>take it easy or as we say in Gaelic, lig

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<v Speaker 1>the ski, and listen to all things concerning the paranormal

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<v Speaker 1>in Ireland and indeed beyond. Welcome to Scary Era.

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<v Speaker 2>All views are Mark Manning's own, but you can express

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<v Speaker 2>them too if you want to be right about everything

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<v Speaker 2>like he is.

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<v Speaker 3>Mark Manning.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I tis me. Indeed, sit down there now and

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<v Speaker 1>take the weight off your face and welcome to twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six two K two six if I'm being cool

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<v Speaker 1>and hanging out with the kids. So, I hope you've

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<v Speaker 1>had a fantastic Christmas time and holiday time and you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking forward to the new year. I suppose as I

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<v Speaker 1>speak to you, the resolutions have already been broken, but

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<v Speaker 1>I have good news for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't worry about such things.

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<v Speaker 1>Rather seek out progress in the new year, poko or poco,

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<v Speaker 1>bit by bit. That's how you do it. You see,

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<v Speaker 1>if you make these massive, big resolutions and they don't

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<v Speaker 1>happen really quickly, when you just give up on them

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<v Speaker 1>and you go, I don't really do resolutions anymore, en

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<v Speaker 1>off lecturing. I've loads to tell you about. But first

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<v Speaker 1>of all, let's get into it, right into the heart

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<v Speaker 1>of the matter, the matter Hospital in Dublin, to be

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<v Speaker 1>quite precise. Did you see what I did there? Right

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<v Speaker 1>to the heart of the matter, or the matter of

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<v Speaker 1>the heart, as told by the squire, a good friend

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<v Speaker 1>of this show, David McGlynn, David mcglyn, David mcgen David McGlynn,

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<v Speaker 1>David McGlenn. Oh, please yourselves, it was only a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of fun, David. Would you ever be a good boy

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<v Speaker 1>and shake your funky growth thing?

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<v Speaker 4>Have you ever had your heart broken? Has your heart

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<v Speaker 4>been in a broken state? My full valve prolapse is

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<v Speaker 4>a condition where one of the valves in your heart

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't open and shut the way it should. So I

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<v Speaker 4>was diagnosed with this condition in two thousand and six

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<v Speaker 4>and had open heart surgery to repair it. I was

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<v Speaker 4>in England at the time, and the NHS sent me

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<v Speaker 4>to a private hospital. Southampton Hospital was a very modern,

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<v Speaker 4>state of the art facility with the best of everything.

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<v Speaker 4>They had me opened, repaired and out of bed walking

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<v Speaker 4>on the third day and sent home on day five.

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<v Speaker 4>In twenty eleven, I was diagnosed with endocarditis, which only

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<v Speaker 4>a few years beforehand was a death sentence. Endocarditis means

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<v Speaker 4>basically that bacteria have colonized your heart and are stopping

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<v Speaker 4>the same valve from working. My surgeon said that I

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<v Speaker 4>probably had two days maximum if I had not gone

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<v Speaker 4>to A and E. I was coughing with blood at

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<v Speaker 4>the time. I was rushed to the Matter Hospital in

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<v Speaker 4>Dublin that day immediate surgery. The Matter is a Victorian hospital,

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<v Speaker 4>now much expanded and modernized. I had spent a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of time there previously when I was being treated for cancer,

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<v Speaker 4>but that's a story for another time. The old part

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<v Speaker 4>of the hospital is still in use and very tired.

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<v Speaker 4>You can easily imagine the scene as it might have

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<v Speaker 4>been one hundred and more years ago, and the corridors

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<v Speaker 4>held echoes. Nothing audible. But it's just not an easy feeling.

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<v Speaker 4>It's as if others are looking at you and empathizing.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe that's the word I imagined, people slowly shaking their

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<v Speaker 4>heads and feeling sorry for me. It's a sad place.

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<v Speaker 4>If you've ever had general anesthetic, you'll know that once

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<v Speaker 4>you've been stitched back together by the surgeon. You're wheeled

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<v Speaker 4>out into a recovery room where you were monitored by

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<v Speaker 4>a nurse. I awoke to find a nurse sat astride

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<v Speaker 4>my torso applying pressure to a pad that was covering

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<v Speaker 4>the wound site, which was still bleeding. She smiled and said,

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<v Speaker 4>they are We're just hidying up. Don't worry about the blood.

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<v Speaker 4>I woke again. I must have fallen back under the

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<v Speaker 4>influence of the anesthetic, and I was in another different room.

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<v Speaker 4>Mine was the only bed and the walls had shiny

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<v Speaker 4>Victorian tiles up to chair rail height. That was what

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<v Speaker 4>struck me, the tiles and the age of the room.

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<v Speaker 4>It was pristine, but it was dated, not quite what

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<v Speaker 4>I would have expected. A nurse entered the room from

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<v Speaker 4>a door beside the foot of my bed and asked

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<v Speaker 4>if I needed anything, and I said I was fine. Thanks.

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<v Speaker 4>She left, and I heard another door open from my

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<v Speaker 4>my chart and sat in a chair beside the bed.

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<v Speaker 4>He was facing the end of the bed. He said nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>His clothes seemed to me to be very old, fashioned

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen thirties in style. He wore a Gabardine type coat

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<v Speaker 4>were those circular ones that we called young lenon glasses.

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<v Speaker 4>He took a clipboard from his briefcase. Who carries leather

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<v Speaker 4>satchel type briefcases any more? I asked him who he was,

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<v Speaker 4>and he simply said, I'm a dentist. I'm here to

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<v Speaker 4>check that your teeth at olk okay, because it could

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<v Speaker 4>be a real problem if something was to go round

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<v Speaker 4>during hard surgery. I said, it's a bit late for that,

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<v Speaker 4>now they've done it. He glanced sideways and said, well,

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<v Speaker 4>folded them, placed him in the case, put the case

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<v Speaker 4>that he had entered. I woke again later and there

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<v Speaker 4>was a nurse sitting at the foot of my bed.

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<v Speaker 4>She said that she was there to monitor me. I

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<v Speaker 4>asked if she'd been there all the time, and she

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<v Speaker 4>said that she had gone to the toilet once, but

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<v Speaker 4>otherwise she hadn't left since I'd arrived from theater. I

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<v Speaker 4>told her what had happened, and she pointed out that

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<v Speaker 4>there was only one door in the room, the one

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<v Speaker 4>at the foot of my bed. It is normal practice

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<v Speaker 4>to check patients for dentures and loose teeth, but that

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<v Speaker 4>isn't done by a dentist.

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<v Speaker 1>How strange, oh lucky man. Indeed, not only from the

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<v Speaker 1>health end of things, but imagine waking up and finding

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<v Speaker 1>a nurse and I quote astride my Torso that certainly

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't happened to me in a long time, probably since

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<v Speaker 1>my twenties. You have the story for you, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of para normal, I suppose. And well it's an

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<v Speaker 1>alien story. You see, back in the late eighties early nineties,

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<v Speaker 1>when I was footloose and fancy free, myself and a

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<v Speaker 1>friend of mine we saw this notice and it was

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<v Speaker 1>for the nurses up in Saint Vincent's Hospital, which is

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<v Speaker 1>only up the road for me now, and they were

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<v Speaker 1>having a dance. So myself and this guy, Diggy was

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<v Speaker 1>his name, I remember, so we went because we wanted

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<v Speaker 1>a cup off with a nurse essentially, and we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>realize it was a fancy dress night. So all these

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful newbile nurses turned up in period costumes and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Dracula outfits. But I ended up with the alien and

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<v Speaker 1>she had all this kind of black makeup all over

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't do anything nasty like a you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>horizontal mambo or anything like that. I was far too callow,

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<v Speaker 1>but we had we had a snog, you know, a kiss.

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<v Speaker 1>And I distinctly recall waking up the next morning in

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<v Speaker 1>my little grief hole of a flat and I looked

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<v Speaker 1>in the mirror and I got an awful fright because

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<v Speaker 1>it was because Myra was all black with little bits

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<v Speaker 1>of glitter all over it. Anyway, yes, ah, yes, dams

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<v Speaker 1>A did times. So anyway, a dentist happened, as you

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<v Speaker 1>heard in the Squire's story there. What was all that

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<v Speaker 1>about a time slip? I suppose what else is coming

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<v Speaker 1>up on today's podcast? Well, before I say anything else,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to say hello to the folks dan in

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<v Speaker 1>Pooka Vogue Paranormal Investigators in Killarney County, Kerry, for they

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<v Speaker 1>have their own podcast now called Let's Talk Paranormal, available

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<v Speaker 1>on Spotify and other platforms. Good luck to PJ and

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<v Speaker 1>the Team Good. You might remember last time around I

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<v Speaker 1>spoke about Margaret mcgrogan, who's an academic in one of

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<v Speaker 1>the universities here and she's putting together a survey on

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<v Speaker 1>all things strange and unusual. Did speak to her since

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<v Speaker 1>the new year, her and her family were still recovering

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<v Speaker 1>from an awful bout of flu, so I didn't push

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<v Speaker 1>her on it. But if you check out last month's podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>all the details are there, Mark Manning. Later on we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be listening to a new EVP from Jenny from Emerald

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<v Speaker 1>Dial Paranormal. She was kind enough to share one that

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<v Speaker 1>she recently recorded in cumber House in County Derry and

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<v Speaker 1>angry Birds. What's that got to do with Ireland? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>hang around and you'll find out. And always listen to

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<v Speaker 1>your Irish Mammy. I'd be talking about that as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But now an Irish woman living in England for many years,

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<v Speaker 1>and the tale of a time she spent in London

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<v Speaker 1>concerning the Vanishing Lady author Tara Moore.

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<v Speaker 2>The next one I want to tell you about is

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<v Speaker 2>more interesting, I think than scary, and it was something

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<v Speaker 2>that happened several years ago. I was sitting in rush

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<v Speaker 2>hour traffic going nowhere fast outside Tooting beckstation. It was winter,

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<v Speaker 2>and I remember it was quite rainy. You could see

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<v Speaker 2>the reflections of the street lights and shop lights on

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<v Speaker 2>the pavement, and I was sort of sitting there idly,

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<v Speaker 2>and don like me, seemed to have not too much

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<v Speaker 2>on my mind, which is when I tend to be

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<v Speaker 2>more receptive to any supernatural type experience. Anyway, I was

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<v Speaker 2>watching people coming out of Tooting back tube station and

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<v Speaker 2>thronging the pavement. There were so many, and suddenly I

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<v Speaker 2>just saw a young woman and my eyes were drawn

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<v Speaker 2>anything that would have singled her out. I never saw

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<v Speaker 2>her face. I just assumed she was young from the

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<v Speaker 2>clothes she was wearing, and I can see those perfectly

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>She had a trench coat on, jeans and boots. Her

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<v Speaker 2>back was to me, and her hair was long and

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<v Speaker 2>smooth and dark, and for some reason I just couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>take my eyes off her. And suddenly I realized that

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't see her feet anymore, and she was disappearing

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<v Speaker 2>from the feet up into the ether. As I said,

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't remotely scary. I remember thinking, oh, I've just

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<v Speaker 2>seen a ghost. But it made me think about something

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<v Speaker 2>a shaman once told me, and he said, in every

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<v Speaker 2>crowd of people, you see amongst those people, although you

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<v Speaker 2>don't realize it, are ghosts, and that, of course ghosts

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<v Speaker 2>are not always a misty ethereal apparition type things, but

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<v Speaker 2>that many of them are look certainly as solid as

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<v Speaker 2>you or I. Anyway, I just thought that was quite

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<v Speaker 2>an interesting experience.

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<v Speaker 3>Not paranormal. Mark Manning is real. Now that's a scary sort.

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<v Speaker 5>Bertie Brazen here recently did the Scary Era.

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<v Speaker 1>Podcast with Mark and I really enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 5>Hopefully you can listen to that podcast as well. But

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<v Speaker 5>I'm a filmmaker, author and video producer. For anyone that

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't know me, you can get all my information all

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<v Speaker 5>my links at ww dot bertiebrasinfilms dot com, including my

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<v Speaker 5>recent book The Forgotten Prince and novella detailing Brian Bru

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<v Speaker 5>the Battle of Clontarff, his son Donaga and Broader of Man,

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<v Speaker 5>the villain of the piece. This is a part of

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<v Speaker 5>a trilogy and I'm writing the sequel.

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<v Speaker 2>At the moment.

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<v Speaker 5>You can get it via my shot about ww do

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<v Speaker 5>bertiebrasiinfilms dot Com, or just go on to Amazon and

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<v Speaker 5>type in the Forgotten Prince Bertie Brosnan and it.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you so much, Take care and enjoy the.

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<v Speaker 3>Rest of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, those of you who know all about the

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<v Speaker 1>paranormal know about evp's electronic voice phenomena. Now, these are

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of auditory artifacts that are picked up on

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<v Speaker 1>microphones during investigations by paranormal investigators around various historic places

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<v Speaker 1>or areas of note, Jenny Sullivan, who we've had on

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<v Speaker 1>the show before, was good enough to sh one from

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<v Speaker 1>cumber House in County Derry. Jenny has headed up Emerald

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<v Speaker 1>Isle Paranormal Investigator since twenty sixteen and it's still going strong.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to give a background to cumber House

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, before we listen to aforementioned EVP. This

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<v Speaker 1>dot i E, which I highly recommend for all things

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<v Speaker 1>Irish and haunting. Let's talk about cumber House, its distinguished

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<v Speaker 1>Georgian era estate with a deeply layered past. Constructed around

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen eighty, it was the ancestral seat of the Brown

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<v Speaker 1>Lecky family, an influential land owning lineage in Ulster. The

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<v Speaker 1>marked by symmetrical proportions, large sash windows, and sweeping grounds

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<v Speaker 1>The Brown Leckey family held considerable social and political sway

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<v Speaker 1>in the region. As major lando owners, they managed extensive

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<v Speaker 1>agricultural lands and contributed significantly to the local rural economy.

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<v Speaker 1>Historical records suggest that the estate included farmland, forests, and

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<v Speaker 1>numerous outbuildings, supporting a small community of workers, tenants, and

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<v Speaker 1>domestic staff. Cumber House's historical footprint widened in the twentieth century,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly during World War II, when it was requisitioned to

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<v Speaker 1>house Allied troops. This wartime chapter left an enduring impression

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<v Speaker 1>physically on the estate and culturally through stories of interactions

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<v Speaker 1>between local residents and soldiers that have been passed down

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<v Speaker 1>through generations. Though the house experienced periods of decline in

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<v Speaker 1>later years, it remained a landmark of local heritage and

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<v Speaker 1>a focal point of ghostly legend. One of the most

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<v Speaker 1>chilling legends tied to cumber house centers on the patriarch

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<v Speaker 1>of the Brown family. After his death, a local priest

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<v Speaker 1>reportedly declared that the elder Brown was burning in the

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<v Speaker 1>fires of hell. Outraged by the claim, Brown's son confronted

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<v Speaker 1>the priest and demanded proof. Pressured by the confrontation, the

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<v Speaker 1>priest knelt, drew a circle on the floor and began

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<v Speaker 1>to pray. To the shock of onlookers, the elder Brown

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<v Speaker 1>and never returned. In the aftermath, another clergyman was summoned

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<v Speaker 1>to perform an exorcism. According to legend, he successfully confined

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<v Speaker 1>the restless spirit to a tree on the property. Even now,

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<v Speaker 1>strange phenomena such as scratching sounds and low moans are

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<v Speaker 1>said to echo from the area around the tree. Further

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<v Speaker 1>references to paranormal activity at the property have included sightings

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<v Speaker 1>of dark figures and shadowy apparitions, disembodied footsteps, and moaning sounds.

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<v Speaker 1>Hang on, oh sorry, just had to do that. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>cleaner switching itself on and musical instruments being played by

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<v Speaker 1>unseen forces. Now, then, dear listener, what you're about to

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<v Speaker 1>hear is an EVP from cumber House. It was recorded

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<v Speaker 1>on a recent investigation and the setup was essentially two

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<v Speaker 1>or three investigators on the property. Now, one of these

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<v Speaker 1>investigators starts to sing an old Irish song called Grace.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all about an Irish patriot from the nineteen sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>Rising called Joseph Mary Plunkett, and just before he was

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<v Speaker 1>executed by the British in Kilmainham jail, he was married

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<v Speaker 1>to a lady called Grace, and hence the song. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a song made famous by the late Irish singer

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<v Speaker 1>Stewart butchered it. So let's listen to the song. And

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<v Speaker 1>just at the very end of it, a male voice

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<v Speaker 1>comes in and says goodbye. Now make of it what

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<v Speaker 1>you will, but I do know Jenny Sullivan from Emerald

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<v Speaker 1>Dial Paranormal and the most honorable and honest lady she is.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll hear it, And then I play the EVP twice

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<v Speaker 1>more so you can listen to it forensically. Here we go.

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<v Speaker 5>On the old fingers thereon.

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<v Speaker 2>To share.

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<v Speaker 4>Lucy bye bye bye. Yeah, yeah, A couple of things

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<v Speaker 4>over the years. But I've learned, well I don't. I

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<v Speaker 4>suppose it's not learned. I've just become accustomed to it.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think it's kind of it's it's maybe it's

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<v Speaker 4>another sense or something. But often when you go into places,

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<v Speaker 4>you will get a feeling for the place, and you'll

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<v Speaker 4>get a feeling of whether or not it's comfortable. And

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<v Speaker 4>whatever cause is that. Who knows what causes that. But

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<v Speaker 4>we have an intuition. We have an inbuilt intuition. I

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<v Speaker 4>can't describe what it is or where it comes from,

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<v Speaker 4>or the physics of it or the chemistry of it,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's there. And anybody will will tell you to

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<v Speaker 4>stick with your intuition. If you think something doesn't feel right,

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<v Speaker 4>then don't hang around.

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<v Speaker 3>Superb advice from regular contributor to Scary Era, David McGlynn

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<v Speaker 3>aka the Squire, and don't hang around either. If you've

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<v Speaker 3>got an Irish paranormal tale to tell, simply email Paranormal

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<v Speaker 3>Ireland at Proton Male dot com and it'll be read

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<v Speaker 3>out for you before you get to tell it on air. Yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>That's Paranormal Ireland at proton male dot com, Mark Manning.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, and I would just echo, you know, get in

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<v Speaker 1>touch with us by email because that way I can

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<v Speaker 1>gauge basically our listenership, which I'm told by the good

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<v Speaker 1>people at Paranormal Radio UK is pretty good. We are

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<v Speaker 1>the second most we aim to please the second most

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<v Speaker 1>downloaded podcast on the platform, so that's what I was

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<v Speaker 1>told recently. So that's good news. But you can boss

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<v Speaker 1>that for me by contacting me if you do listen

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<v Speaker 1>to this show, you know, reach out get me at

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<v Speaker 1>the email address which is Paranormal Ireland at ProtonMail dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Will you do that for me? Surprise me and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that we give you a nod next time

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<v Speaker 1>we're on. So yeah, sometimes stuff just comes into your mind.

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<v Speaker 1>And in my case, I vaguely remember a documentary I

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<v Speaker 1>heard on radio back sometime in either the late seventies

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<v Speaker 1>or early eighties. It stuck in my mind because it

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<v Speaker 1>concerned an unusual natural event in Ireland and this was,

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<v Speaker 1>believe it or not, a battle of the birds. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>angry birds were talking about an actual battle took place

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<v Speaker 1>and blood and feathers were spilled. So I did a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of research and I discovered just over ten

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<v Speaker 1>years ago there was an article in the Irish Independent,

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<v Speaker 1>a newspaper of note here, and it concerns exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>I've been talking about. So basically the breed of bird

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<v Speaker 1>was a starling's I believe. Here we go. The starling

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<v Speaker 1>phenomenon was remarkable. Two great Mermatians, there's a word to

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<v Speaker 1>conjure with of the birds separately gathered over cork for

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<v Speaker 1>several days, sending small emissary regroups back and forth until negotiations,

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<v Speaker 1>lee on October twelfth, sixteen twenty one. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>who saw the battle fault with loud and chattering cries,

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<v Speaker 1>each company gainst the other flies with bloody beaks, remorseless

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<v Speaker 1>still their feathered foes to maim or kill. Where whilst

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<v Speaker 1>this battle did remain, their bodies fell like drops of rain.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I know. The renowned diarist Samuel Peeps documented all this,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as a richer Channey, who produced another diary

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<v Speaker 1>of events seven months later, on May thirty first sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two followed what was described as the lamentable burning

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<v Speaker 1>with woe, for no one knew where to run or go.

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<v Speaker 1>The starling battle was seen as a portent, one pamphleteer

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<v Speaker 1>writing reprovingly cork was first warned and then destroyed for

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<v Speaker 1>her sins. Scientific sources point out that animal and bird

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<v Speaker 1>fights usually occur over territory, food, shelter, and mates. Introspective aggression,

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<v Speaker 1>in which animals or birds attack members of their own species,

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<v Speaker 1>is widespread across the animal kingdom, from ragworms, salmon and

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<v Speaker 1>lobsters to songbirds, rats and chimps. There's an amusing story

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<v Speaker 1>of one chimpanzee famous through the work of behavioral scientists

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<v Speaker 1>the late Jane Goodall, that intimidated rivals by banging two

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<v Speaker 1>oil cans together. Starling numbers have fallen considerably in recent years,

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<v Speaker 1>but annual mermatians, especially over the Midlands, are welcomed by

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<v Speaker 1>their peace for aerial wafting, as if to the strains

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<v Speaker 1>of a celestial waltz being played only for them as

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<v Speaker 6>Hello Scary Era listeners. My name is Anthony Kerrigan and

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<v Speaker 6>I'm a member of a paranormal psychical research team called Ghosttereer.

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<v Speaker 6>You can catch up on where we have been also

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<v Speaker 6>see what we've got up in the future by logging

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<v Speaker 6>into our website ww dot ghostereo dot net. You can

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<v Speaker 6>also watch shows of the Ghosteroid Channel, where we interview

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<v Speaker 6>numerous people in the field of the paranormal and FOURTEENA.

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<v Speaker 6>You can also check us on our social media pages

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<v Speaker 6>on Facebook, Instagram and YouTube by just typing in Ghostterer

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<v Speaker 6>or Ghostereer Paranormal. You can also watch our new show

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<v Speaker 3>I just got to deal with this ghost now, who.

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<v Speaker 6>Get out to talk?

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<v Speaker 2>Ah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Anthony Old paranormal pants himself. I call him that

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<v Speaker 1>because he wears these amazing kind of spangled trousers that

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<v Speaker 1>would do the edge out of you two proud, and

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<v Speaker 1>then his fingers are like Elvis. They glisten with things

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<v Speaker 1>like sovereigns and jewelry and skulls and all that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff. And he's absolutely brilliant and a total mine

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<v Speaker 1>of information when it comes to the paranormal, So do

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<v Speaker 1>check out ghost Era. Earlier, I was saying to always

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<v Speaker 1>listen to your Irish mammy, mammy being a word for

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<v Speaker 1>And my mother grew up in a place called the

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<v Speaker 1>Courra in County Kildare. It's very flat, green and it's

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<v Speaker 1>going back there because her sister, my Auntie, was secretary

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<v Speaker 1>of the Cora race Course way way back. AnyWho, my

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<v Speaker 1>mother used to regale me with these stories when I

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<v Speaker 1>was a kid about what she'd get up to. I

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<v Speaker 1>might have mentioned this one before, but it's relevant today

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<v Speaker 1>because of a little bit more research. So she told

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<v Speaker 1>an old English estate in the region of Killaire and

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<v Speaker 1>she she used to say it was blackherds or blackherds.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to pick it up like blackherds. And she

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<v Speaker 1>would intrigue me with these stories about they'd mosey on up,

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<v Speaker 1>they'd hide behind a hedge and they'd look in and

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's not peeping tom stuff. But they'd be looking

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<v Speaker 1>in or a maid perhaps, and they'd see this lady

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<v Speaker 1>and she'd sit down at the dresser, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>actually lift the comb or hairbrush. She would simply gesture

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<v Speaker 1>and they would leve atta into her hands, and correspondingly

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<v Speaker 1>she would comb herself a nice mullet or hairdoo, burnetor whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was almost like there was witchcraft or something involved.

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<v Speaker 1>But I, as a younger man then I would research

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<v Speaker 1>on the internet black cards, black cards, black and I

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that was just in my head, all those things

415
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<v Speaker 1>she told me in the early nineteen seventies, It was

416
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<v Speaker 1>in my head. Blackers Blacker anyway, stand back in amazement

417
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<v Speaker 1>because the residence she was likely referring to was called

418
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<v Speaker 1>Castle Martin. I think it's in the area of Straffen

419
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<v Speaker 1>in County Kildare. And guess what, folks, there was a

420
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<v Speaker 1>major blacker in the area, probably in Castle Martin House,

421
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<v Speaker 1>and he had a military service with the third Battalion

422
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<v Speaker 1>Royal Dublin Fusiliers in brackets killed their militia. Major Blacker,

423
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<v Speaker 1>the second in command of the third Battalion Dublin Fusiliers,

424
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<v Speaker 1>has left the service, and in him the battalion has

425
00:26:09.319 --> 00:26:12.119
<v Speaker 1>lost a very good officer and one who has had

426
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<v Speaker 1>a long connection with the battalion, for he was appointed

427
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<v Speaker 1>lieutenant in the Kildare Militia October eighteen seventy four and

428
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<v Speaker 1>has held his present rank since August eighteen eighty nine.

429
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<v Speaker 1>It is expected that Captain Greeson, the senior company commander

430
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<v Speaker 1>of the battalion, will be promoted to the rank of

431
00:26:29.400 --> 00:26:34.119
<v Speaker 1>major in the battalion, he joined it as second lieutenant

432
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<v Speaker 1>in August eighteen seventy eight and was promoted to the

433
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<v Speaker 1>rank of captain in eighteen eighty five. Now it does

434
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<v Speaker 1>go on death of Major Blacker nays Thursday night, and

435
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<v Speaker 1>this says. Major Blacker died this evening at five fifteen

436
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<v Speaker 1>at Lady Carton's residence, Westtown, Straffen, where he had lain

437
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<v Speaker 1>since the opening meet of the Kildare Hounds. On Tuesday, fortnight,

438
00:27:01.480 --> 00:27:04.759
<v Speaker 1>when it will be remembered, his horse fell back on

439
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<v Speaker 1>him in a farmyard and broke his pelvis up to

440
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<v Speaker 1>midday yesterday Wednesday. His progress gave the utmost satisfaction in

441
00:27:13.160 --> 00:27:17.920
<v Speaker 1>his medical attendant, doctor O'Donnell Brown. But then a change

442
00:27:18.039 --> 00:27:22.200
<v Speaker 1>came and Sir Thomas Miles and Surgeon Lane Joint were

443
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<v Speaker 1>summoned from Dublin. But the patient never rallied and passed

444
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<v Speaker 1>away as stated. That's an excerpt from the Freeman's Journal, Friday,

445
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<v Speaker 1>November twenty second, nineteen oh seven. So perseverance, that's what

446
00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:40.680
<v Speaker 1>it's all about. I discovered, yes, there was a link

447
00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:45.440
<v Speaker 1>there major Blacker or IP, and I know there's a

448
00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:50.599
<v Speaker 1>Castle Martin House connected there somewhere. I think he lived there. Anyway,

449
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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to change tacked now slightly. I would like

450
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<v Speaker 1>you to listen to what I consider to be a

451
00:27:56.559 --> 00:28:01.319
<v Speaker 1>remarkable audio recording. Is it related to Ireland, No, but

452
00:28:01.440 --> 00:28:05.200
<v Speaker 1>it is very much related to the old English families

453
00:28:05.359 --> 00:28:08.240
<v Speaker 1>that you've heard about just there. As an audio person,

454
00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:11.279
<v Speaker 1>I come across all kinds of bits of audio and

455
00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:14.000
<v Speaker 1>once stuck in my mind around two thousand and nine,

456
00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:18.000
<v Speaker 1>and I discovered it in my archives only recently, and

457
00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:23.759
<v Speaker 1>it concerns the memories of an elderly lady. Now she

458
00:28:23.920 --> 00:28:27.640
<v Speaker 1>is recorded, i'd say sometime in the nineteen seventies or

459
00:28:27.720 --> 00:28:31.640
<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighties. She has long passed. I'd imagine. All I

460
00:28:31.680 --> 00:28:34.720
<v Speaker 1>know is her name was Olga, and she seems to

461
00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:39.000
<v Speaker 1>be very opper, a crassed old school Heiti Titi cucumber sandwiches.

462
00:28:39.200 --> 00:28:44.319
<v Speaker 1>And she is recalling her childhood in the British raj

463
00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:48.960
<v Speaker 1>in India, where they had servants galore and were treated

464
00:28:49.119 --> 00:28:54.079
<v Speaker 1>like lords. But essentially it all seemed to work. She

465
00:28:54.240 --> 00:29:00.960
<v Speaker 1>begins her recollections talking about a panther's footprints in the garden. Now,

466
00:29:01.000 --> 00:29:03.640
<v Speaker 1>what I think is remarkable about this is if you

467
00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:07.519
<v Speaker 1>listen to it, Yeah, there's an interview going on, but

468
00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:10.960
<v Speaker 1>it's not a really official one. It's almost like somebody

469
00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:15.359
<v Speaker 1>as an afterthought just switched on a cassette recorder to

470
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<v Speaker 1>listen to the ramblings of this elegant lady. And you'll

471
00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:22.480
<v Speaker 1>hear that. It's not a professional interviewer. If anything, he's

472
00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:27.279
<v Speaker 1>very lax. He's oh yeah, really, uh is that right? Yeah.

473
00:29:27.319 --> 00:29:31.039
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't push her for information. Rather it flows and

474
00:29:31.079 --> 00:29:34.759
<v Speaker 1>she imparts it as I said, most eloquently. So it's

475
00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:38.880
<v Speaker 1>two people having a conversation. We're listening in and it's

476
00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:43.119
<v Speaker 1>almost like they are oblivious to the recording process. So

477
00:29:43.359 --> 00:29:47.880
<v Speaker 1>that's what I love about it. It's almost atmospheric, it's historical,

478
00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:53.359
<v Speaker 1>and we really are just eavesdropping on two people. Olga

479
00:29:53.599 --> 00:29:57.839
<v Speaker 1>was obviously a remarkable lady in a remarkable time. Now,

480
00:29:57.920 --> 00:29:59.680
<v Speaker 1>if you bear with it, it's a minute or two

481
00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:02.720
<v Speaker 1>long thereabouts. I'm going to let the recording play on

482
00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:06.960
<v Speaker 1>a tiny bit because you'll actually hear her just shuffling about.

483
00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:14.039
<v Speaker 1>It's very sweet and magical. Listen up, particularly to the

484
00:30:14.119 --> 00:30:15.880
<v Speaker 1>first few words.

485
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<v Speaker 7>Do you ever sort of have a recurrence of things

486
00:30:19.359 --> 00:30:25.440
<v Speaker 7>that happened years and years and years ago, incidents the

487
00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:33.440
<v Speaker 7>currents or memories memories? Yeah, yeah, I have one vivid

488
00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:39.599
<v Speaker 7>memory of the panther's footmarks in the garden Phanta. Yes,

489
00:30:40.240 --> 00:30:44.240
<v Speaker 7>she had some dogs and they show a little way

490
00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:48.359
<v Speaker 7>beyond ours, and there's always a panther there. What's a

491
00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:53.559
<v Speaker 7>show a little forest? Yes, a Showow is a horst

492
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<v Speaker 7>and the stupid things come to one's mind again. I

493
00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:06.920
<v Speaker 7>suddenly saw somebody connecting some drinking water. We had a spring.

494
00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:09.720
<v Speaker 7>We had to go down the road to it, and

495
00:31:09.799 --> 00:31:13.559
<v Speaker 7>he came out of came out of the mountain. And

496
00:31:13.640 --> 00:31:21.000
<v Speaker 7>you always get the drinking water from there, and of

497
00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:24.000
<v Speaker 7>course I was always brought up to be very careful

498
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<v Speaker 7>of water because we had to have a man was

499
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<v Speaker 7>hired for the entire day to carry water up a

500
00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:33.400
<v Speaker 7>quarter of a mile up a hill a couple of

501
00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:44.599
<v Speaker 7>buckets up to my mother's house. We didn't have any

502
00:31:44.680 --> 00:31:50.319
<v Speaker 7>polar plugs or anything like that in the ship. This

503
00:31:50.440 --> 00:31:53.279
<v Speaker 7>man was hired and the whole day he spent going

504
00:31:53.359 --> 00:31:56.839
<v Speaker 7>up and down the quarter of a mile with a

505
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<v Speaker 7>couple of kerosene tins on the end of the mm hmmm,

506
00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:03.359
<v Speaker 7>I mean trips the day did he do?

507
00:32:03.759 --> 00:32:04.759
<v Speaker 4>Oh? I can't tell you.

508
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:13.519
<v Speaker 7>Because it was quite steep. And he was known as

509
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<v Speaker 7>the waterman. And he used to have to come at

510
00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:20.759
<v Speaker 7>five o'clock in the morning to heat the balls because

511
00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:25.759
<v Speaker 7>they all had morning balls. Whatever the weather and what

512
00:32:26.319 --> 00:32:29.160
<v Speaker 7>cold or hot or wet or dry, the man had

513
00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:31.119
<v Speaker 7>to be there. The baths had to be ready b

514
00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:36.880
<v Speaker 7>up o'clock. Heated three stones and kerosene two.

515
00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:39.039
<v Speaker 2>Balls.

516
00:32:39.160 --> 00:32:42.119
<v Speaker 4>Balls by who.

517
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<v Speaker 7>Family, my mother, my father. I had to show my

518
00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:49.720
<v Speaker 7>mother's bath. She had first bath by way into the

519
00:32:49.799 --> 00:33:02.319
<v Speaker 7>slick stark water. H huh, tin tubs, yeah, and no sanitation.

520
00:33:03.359 --> 00:33:08.799
<v Speaker 7>We had thunder boxes in the garden. Mm hmm. And

521
00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:13.319
<v Speaker 7>the person who came twice a day to deal with.

522
00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:14.319
<v Speaker 2>The leemetery.

523
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<v Speaker 7>Frankly and sanitary really is a mention of fact. You've

524
00:33:18.640 --> 00:33:22.720
<v Speaker 7>got a thunder box in the museum exactly like we had,

525
00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:28.319
<v Speaker 7>and all the bathwater was connected to water the garden.

526
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<v Speaker 7>What was your father really kind of retired really all the.

527
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<v Speaker 2>Time that you knew?

528
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<v Speaker 7>He retired when I was quite young, because he was

529
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<v Speaker 7>twenty years old. Were older than my mother, she was

530
00:33:42.759 --> 00:33:45.920
<v Speaker 7>his second wife. Yes, but he was in the army

531
00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:51.400
<v Speaker 7>when when you were born. Yes, so was he away?

532
00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:56.240
<v Speaker 7>Well no, we were order secunderabad uh huh. And then

533
00:33:56.279 --> 00:33:58.720
<v Speaker 7>he retired and then he went up to the hills.

534
00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:03.039
<v Speaker 7>If they have a vague recollection of a place called

535
00:34:03.119 --> 00:34:08.280
<v Speaker 7>your Court, which was a very horrible hill station. They

536
00:34:08.519 --> 00:34:12.199
<v Speaker 7>tried to settle there and they didn't like it, just

537
00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:15.840
<v Speaker 7>full of Anglo Indians and nothing else, And so they

538
00:34:16.360 --> 00:34:21.239
<v Speaker 7>eventually went to the new Preas. And I remember playing

539
00:34:21.320 --> 00:34:27.440
<v Speaker 7>on the hilltop where they built some Luke's church and

540
00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:31.320
<v Speaker 7>there were no street lights in Koto Kay had a

541
00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:35.679
<v Speaker 7>torch and I remember seeing the panther's eyes on the bank.

542
00:34:38.360 --> 00:34:40.760
<v Speaker 7>It used to squat there waiting in case the dogs

543
00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:41.320
<v Speaker 7>came out.

544
00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:43.480
<v Speaker 2>Huh.

545
00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:46.920
<v Speaker 7>The dogs always had to be taken out on a

546
00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:52.440
<v Speaker 7>lead after dark. I always remember seeing a panther come

547
00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:56.000
<v Speaker 7>out on the rock. I had some friends who lived

548
00:34:56.320 --> 00:34:59.719
<v Speaker 7>about two three miles out and I used to go

549
00:34:59.800 --> 00:35:02.960
<v Speaker 7>after to lunch and go and visit them. And they

550
00:35:03.000 --> 00:35:06.360
<v Speaker 7>had this house and there was a rock and four

551
00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:09.400
<v Speaker 7>the top. This panther. He was always to come out

552
00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:13.440
<v Speaker 7>off the rock and just sport itself like a cat,

553
00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:20.760
<v Speaker 7>rolling over and licking itself. And I always remember that

554
00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:24.119
<v Speaker 7>is to go and watch it or with a number

555
00:35:24.119 --> 00:35:28.719
<v Speaker 7>of miles I walked in those days, and I mean

556
00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:30.840
<v Speaker 7>it was perfectly safe. I was able to go out

557
00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:36.800
<v Speaker 7>by myself. The Indians wouldn't dare to do anything. In fact,

558
00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:41.039
<v Speaker 7>they sort of would duped you. And I remember when

559
00:35:41.079 --> 00:35:44.039
<v Speaker 7>my father was alive. You always used to go out

560
00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:47.880
<v Speaker 7>with a gun in the evening, and I sometimes I

561
00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:50.400
<v Speaker 7>went with him. It went out with the jungles. We

562
00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:53.360
<v Speaker 7>sat behind the go of bush and waited for the

563
00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:58.039
<v Speaker 7>game to come out. Dear used to come out and graze,

564
00:35:58.159 --> 00:36:00.960
<v Speaker 7>and you were used to take a gun with him,

565
00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:04.840
<v Speaker 7>but he never shot me. You used to watch a

566
00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:06.880
<v Speaker 7>few while painting things.

567
00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:08.679
<v Speaker 5>What's it to you?

568
00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:11.800
<v Speaker 7>What did you die of your father? Was a small

569
00:36:11.880 --> 00:36:22.840
<v Speaker 7>age or a heart attack? Something I think? Um hmmm

570
00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:31.360
<v Speaker 7>mm hmmm mm hmm. Eighty eighty three, eighty three, eighty

571
00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:44.320
<v Speaker 7>three gracious, maybe it was traditionally young h really gracious.

572
00:36:46.039 --> 00:36:48.280
<v Speaker 7>Was it was he overlord or did he go quite quickly?

573
00:36:49.559 --> 00:36:52.000
<v Speaker 7>I think it was for about a week or something

574
00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:52.360
<v Speaker 7>like that.

575
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<v Speaker 2>Mhm h yeah, mm hmm.

576
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<v Speaker 1>What a wonderfully sweet, elderly classic British lady of her times.

577
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<v Speaker 1>Rest in peace, Alga. I hope you are with your

578
00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:25.000
<v Speaker 1>dear papa now enjoying all the good Lord has to

579
00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:28.199
<v Speaker 1>give you. That's it on Scary Era for myself. Mark

580
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<v Speaker 1>Manningtz goodbye. Do get in touch, of course Paranormal Ireland

581
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<v Speaker 1>at ProtonMail dot com. I'd like to thank all our

582
00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:39.000
<v Speaker 1>contributors to the show. You are the guys that make

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<v Speaker 1>it happen right here. Take care because I care.
