1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Paranormal UK Radio Network, the best 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,960 in paranormal talk radio in the UK and around the world. 3 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:24,000 Era is the Irish or Gaelic word for Ireland. So 4 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,839 take it easy or as we say in Gaelic, lig 5 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:31,120 the ski, and listen to all things concerning the paranormal 6 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:37,159 in Ireland and indeed beyond. Welcome to Scary Era. 7 00:00:38,119 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: All views are Mark Manning's own, but you can express 8 00:00:41,359 --> 00:00:43,399 them too if you want to be right about everything 9 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:44,039 like he is. 10 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:57,439 Speaker 3: Mark Manning. 11 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:02,039 Speaker 1: Oh I tis me. Indeed, sit down there now and 12 00:01:02,119 --> 00:01:05,879 take the weight off your face and welcome to twenty 13 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,000 twenty six two K two six if I'm being cool 14 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,000 and hanging out with the kids. So, I hope you've 15 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,879 had a fantastic Christmas time and holiday time and you're 16 00:01:13,879 --> 00:01:16,680 looking forward to the new year. I suppose as I 17 00:01:16,719 --> 00:01:19,799 speak to you, the resolutions have already been broken, but 18 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:21,680 I have good news for you. 19 00:01:21,719 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 2: Don't worry about such things. 20 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: Rather seek out progress in the new year, poko or poco, 21 00:01:27,879 --> 00:01:29,920 bit by bit. That's how you do it. You see, 22 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,079 if you make these massive, big resolutions and they don't 23 00:01:33,079 --> 00:01:35,040 happen really quickly, when you just give up on them 24 00:01:35,079 --> 00:01:38,599 and you go, I don't really do resolutions anymore, en 25 00:01:38,599 --> 00:01:41,239 off lecturing. I've loads to tell you about. But first 26 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,640 of all, let's get into it, right into the heart 27 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,439 of the matter, the matter Hospital in Dublin, to be 28 00:01:46,519 --> 00:01:49,000 quite precise. Did you see what I did there? Right 29 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,280 to the heart of the matter, or the matter of 30 00:01:52,319 --> 00:01:54,879 the heart, as told by the squire, a good friend 31 00:01:54,879 --> 00:02:00,000 of this show, David McGlynn, David mcglyn, David mcgen David McGlynn, 32 00:02:01,359 --> 00:02:04,079 David McGlenn. Oh, please yourselves, it was only a bit 33 00:02:04,079 --> 00:02:06,239 of fun, David. Would you ever be a good boy 34 00:02:06,519 --> 00:02:08,080 and shake your funky growth thing? 35 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 4: Have you ever had your heart broken? Has your heart 36 00:02:11,599 --> 00:02:14,680 been in a broken state? My full valve prolapse is 37 00:02:14,719 --> 00:02:16,639 a condition where one of the valves in your heart 38 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,199 doesn't open and shut the way it should. So I 39 00:02:19,319 --> 00:02:21,840 was diagnosed with this condition in two thousand and six 40 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,520 and had open heart surgery to repair it. I was 41 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,439 in England at the time, and the NHS sent me 42 00:02:26,439 --> 00:02:29,479 to a private hospital. Southampton Hospital was a very modern, 43 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,800 state of the art facility with the best of everything. 44 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,400 They had me opened, repaired and out of bed walking 45 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,680 on the third day and sent home on day five. 46 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:41,039 In twenty eleven, I was diagnosed with endocarditis, which only 47 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:45,360 a few years beforehand was a death sentence. Endocarditis means 48 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,919 basically that bacteria have colonized your heart and are stopping 49 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,639 the same valve from working. My surgeon said that I 50 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,400 probably had two days maximum if I had not gone 51 00:02:54,439 --> 00:02:56,759 to A and E. I was coughing with blood at 52 00:02:56,759 --> 00:02:59,039 the time. I was rushed to the Matter Hospital in 53 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:03,000 Dublin that day immediate surgery. The Matter is a Victorian hospital, 54 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,639 now much expanded and modernized. I had spent a lot 55 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,360 of time there previously when I was being treated for cancer, 56 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,280 but that's a story for another time. The old part 57 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,759 of the hospital is still in use and very tired. 58 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,280 You can easily imagine the scene as it might have 59 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,159 been one hundred and more years ago, and the corridors 60 00:03:20,199 --> 00:03:23,879 held echoes. Nothing audible. But it's just not an easy feeling. 61 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,919 It's as if others are looking at you and empathizing. 62 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,479 Maybe that's the word I imagined, people slowly shaking their 63 00:03:30,479 --> 00:03:33,080 heads and feeling sorry for me. It's a sad place. 64 00:03:33,479 --> 00:03:36,520 If you've ever had general anesthetic, you'll know that once 65 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,639 you've been stitched back together by the surgeon. You're wheeled 66 00:03:39,639 --> 00:03:41,840 out into a recovery room where you were monitored by 67 00:03:41,879 --> 00:03:44,800 a nurse. I awoke to find a nurse sat astride 68 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,000 my torso applying pressure to a pad that was covering 69 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,599 the wound site, which was still bleeding. She smiled and said, 70 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,960 they are We're just hidying up. Don't worry about the blood. 71 00:03:55,439 --> 00:03:57,599 I woke again. I must have fallen back under the 72 00:03:57,639 --> 00:04:00,639 influence of the anesthetic, and I was in another different room. 73 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,000 Mine was the only bed and the walls had shiny 74 00:04:03,039 --> 00:04:06,479 Victorian tiles up to chair rail height. That was what 75 00:04:06,599 --> 00:04:09,120 struck me, the tiles and the age of the room. 76 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,240 It was pristine, but it was dated, not quite what 77 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,800 I would have expected. A nurse entered the room from 78 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,000 a door beside the foot of my bed and asked 79 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,720 if I needed anything, and I said I was fine. Thanks. 80 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,279 She left, and I heard another door open from my 81 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,759 right hand side and behind me. A man entered and 82 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:26,439 walked down the side of the room. He picked up 83 00:04:26,439 --> 00:04:28,480 my chart and sat in a chair beside the bed. 84 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,560 He was facing the end of the bed. He said nothing. 85 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,279 His clothes seemed to me to be very old, fashioned 86 00:04:34,519 --> 00:04:38,160 nineteen thirties in style. He wore a Gabardine type coat 87 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:42,759 and pinstriped suit with immaculately polished brogue shoes. His glasses 88 00:04:42,759 --> 00:04:45,199 were those circular ones that we called young lenon glasses. 89 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,959 He took a clipboard from his briefcase. Who carries leather 90 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,839 satchel type briefcases any more? I asked him who he was, 91 00:04:51,879 --> 00:04:54,120 and he simply said, I'm a dentist. I'm here to 92 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,680 check that your teeth at olk okay, because it could 93 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,600 be a real problem if something was to go round 94 00:04:58,639 --> 00:05:01,920 during hard surgery. I said, it's a bit late for that, 95 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,519 now they've done it. He glanced sideways and said, well, 96 00:05:05,519 --> 00:05:08,240 it's a good thing. Le Chet took his glasses off, 97 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,199 folded them, placed him in the case, put the case 98 00:05:11,199 --> 00:05:13,480 in his satchel, and walked out through the same door 99 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,720 that he had entered. I woke again later and there 100 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,360 was a nurse sitting at the foot of my bed. 101 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,720 She said that she was there to monitor me. I 102 00:05:19,759 --> 00:05:21,480 asked if she'd been there all the time, and she 103 00:05:21,519 --> 00:05:23,360 said that she had gone to the toilet once, but 104 00:05:23,439 --> 00:05:26,720 otherwise she hadn't left since I'd arrived from theater. I 105 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,079 told her what had happened, and she pointed out that 106 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,199 there was only one door in the room, the one 107 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,800 at the foot of my bed. It is normal practice 108 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,439 to check patients for dentures and loose teeth, but that 109 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:37,720 isn't done by a dentist. 110 00:05:38,639 --> 00:05:46,319 Speaker 1: How strange, oh lucky man. Indeed, not only from the 111 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,120 health end of things, but imagine waking up and finding 112 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,600 a nurse and I quote astride my Torso that certainly 113 00:05:52,639 --> 00:05:55,800 hasn't happened to me in a long time, probably since 114 00:05:55,879 --> 00:05:59,199 my twenties. You have the story for you, and it's 115 00:05:59,319 --> 00:06:02,759 kind of para normal, I suppose. And well it's an 116 00:06:02,759 --> 00:06:06,959 alien story. You see, back in the late eighties early nineties, 117 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,519 when I was footloose and fancy free, myself and a 118 00:06:09,519 --> 00:06:12,360 friend of mine we saw this notice and it was 119 00:06:12,399 --> 00:06:15,519 for the nurses up in Saint Vincent's Hospital, which is 120 00:06:15,519 --> 00:06:17,279 only up the road for me now, and they were 121 00:06:17,319 --> 00:06:20,519 having a dance. So myself and this guy, Diggy was 122 00:06:20,519 --> 00:06:23,240 his name, I remember, so we went because we wanted 123 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,720 a cup off with a nurse essentially, and we didn't 124 00:06:25,759 --> 00:06:28,639 realize it was a fancy dress night. So all these 125 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:33,639 beautiful newbile nurses turned up in period costumes and you know, 126 00:06:33,879 --> 00:06:37,040 Dracula outfits. But I ended up with the alien and 127 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,879 she had all this kind of black makeup all over 128 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,839 her face, with these little stars and stuff. And now 129 00:06:42,879 --> 00:06:45,040 we didn't do anything nasty like a you know, the 130 00:06:45,079 --> 00:06:48,199 horizontal mambo or anything like that. I was far too callow, 131 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,120 but we had we had a snog, you know, a kiss. 132 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,759 And I distinctly recall waking up the next morning in 133 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,319 my little grief hole of a flat and I looked 134 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,560 in the mirror and I got an awful fright because 135 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,879 it was because Myra was all black with little bits 136 00:07:01,879 --> 00:07:06,439 of glitter all over it. Anyway, yes, ah, yes, dams 137 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,079 A did times. So anyway, a dentist happened, as you 138 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,560 heard in the Squire's story there. What was all that 139 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,959 about a time slip? I suppose what else is coming 140 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,639 up on today's podcast? Well, before I say anything else, 141 00:07:18,839 --> 00:07:21,160 I'd like to say hello to the folks dan in 142 00:07:21,319 --> 00:07:26,000 Pooka Vogue Paranormal Investigators in Killarney County, Kerry, for they 143 00:07:26,079 --> 00:07:31,120 have their own podcast now called Let's Talk Paranormal, available 144 00:07:31,199 --> 00:07:34,920 on Spotify and other platforms. Good luck to PJ and 145 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,680 the Team Good. You might remember last time around I 146 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,759 spoke about Margaret mcgrogan, who's an academic in one of 147 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:45,199 the universities here and she's putting together a survey on 148 00:07:45,319 --> 00:07:48,600 all things strange and unusual. Did speak to her since 149 00:07:48,639 --> 00:07:51,399 the new year, her and her family were still recovering 150 00:07:51,439 --> 00:07:53,639 from an awful bout of flu, so I didn't push 151 00:07:53,639 --> 00:07:57,079 her on it. But if you check out last month's podcast, 152 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:04,000 all the details are there, Mark Manning. Later on we'll 153 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,759 be listening to a new EVP from Jenny from Emerald 154 00:08:07,759 --> 00:08:11,360 Dial Paranormal. She was kind enough to share one that 155 00:08:11,399 --> 00:08:15,279 she recently recorded in cumber House in County Derry and 156 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,399 angry Birds. What's that got to do with Ireland? Well, 157 00:08:19,519 --> 00:08:22,360 hang around and you'll find out. And always listen to 158 00:08:22,399 --> 00:08:25,319 your Irish Mammy. I'd be talking about that as well. 159 00:08:25,399 --> 00:08:28,920 But now an Irish woman living in England for many years, 160 00:08:28,959 --> 00:08:30,839 and the tale of a time she spent in London 161 00:08:31,079 --> 00:08:35,440 concerning the Vanishing Lady author Tara Moore. 162 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,039 Speaker 2: The next one I want to tell you about is 163 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:42,879 more interesting, I think than scary, and it was something 164 00:08:42,879 --> 00:08:46,519 that happened several years ago. I was sitting in rush 165 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:52,360 hour traffic going nowhere fast outside Tooting beckstation. It was winter, 166 00:08:52,799 --> 00:08:56,000 and I remember it was quite rainy. You could see 167 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,279 the reflections of the street lights and shop lights on 168 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,639 the pavement, and I was sort of sitting there idly, 169 00:09:02,759 --> 00:09:06,240 and don like me, seemed to have not too much 170 00:09:06,279 --> 00:09:08,240 on my mind, which is when I tend to be 171 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:13,840 more receptive to any supernatural type experience. Anyway, I was 172 00:09:13,879 --> 00:09:17,879 watching people coming out of Tooting back tube station and 173 00:09:18,639 --> 00:09:21,799 thronging the pavement. There were so many, and suddenly I 174 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,879 just saw a young woman and my eyes were drawn 175 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:30,240 to her for no apparent reason, because there really wasn't 176 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,559 anything that would have singled her out. I never saw 177 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,240 her face. I just assumed she was young from the 178 00:09:36,279 --> 00:09:39,200 clothes she was wearing, and I can see those perfectly 179 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:40,080 even now. 180 00:09:40,159 --> 00:09:40,399 Speaker 1: You know. 181 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 2: She had a trench coat on, jeans and boots. Her 182 00:09:44,639 --> 00:09:48,039 back was to me, and her hair was long and 183 00:09:48,159 --> 00:09:51,960 smooth and dark, and for some reason I just couldn't 184 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,799 take my eyes off her. And suddenly I realized that 185 00:09:55,919 --> 00:09:59,440 I couldn't see her feet anymore, and she was disappearing 186 00:10:00,159 --> 00:10:02,759 from the feet up into the ether. As I said, 187 00:10:02,799 --> 00:10:07,399 it wasn't remotely scary. I remember thinking, oh, I've just 188 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,600 seen a ghost. But it made me think about something 189 00:10:10,639 --> 00:10:14,080 a shaman once told me, and he said, in every 190 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,799 crowd of people, you see amongst those people, although you 191 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,240 don't realize it, are ghosts, and that, of course ghosts 192 00:10:21,279 --> 00:10:25,879 are not always a misty ethereal apparition type things, but 193 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:30,279 that many of them are look certainly as solid as 194 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,840 you or I. Anyway, I just thought that was quite 195 00:10:32,879 --> 00:10:34,960 an interesting experience. 196 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 3: Not paranormal. Mark Manning is real. Now that's a scary sort. 197 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 5: Bertie Brazen here recently did the Scary Era. 198 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: Podcast with Mark and I really enjoyed it. 199 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 5: Hopefully you can listen to that podcast as well. But 200 00:10:56,279 --> 00:10:59,200 I'm a filmmaker, author and video producer. For anyone that 201 00:10:59,279 --> 00:11:01,799 doesn't know me, you can get all my information all 202 00:11:01,879 --> 00:11:06,759 my links at ww dot bertiebrasinfilms dot com, including my 203 00:11:06,879 --> 00:11:10,639 recent book The Forgotten Prince and novella detailing Brian Bru 204 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:15,360 the Battle of Clontarff, his son Donaga and Broader of Man, 205 00:11:15,799 --> 00:11:18,200 the villain of the piece. This is a part of 206 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,679 a trilogy and I'm writing the sequel. 207 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:20,879 Speaker 2: At the moment. 208 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,799 Speaker 5: You can get it via my shot about ww do 209 00:11:23,879 --> 00:11:26,919 bertiebrasiinfilms dot Com, or just go on to Amazon and 210 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,240 type in the Forgotten Prince Bertie Brosnan and it. 211 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:30,879 Speaker 1: Should come up. 212 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 6: Thank you so much, Take care and enjoy the. 213 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 3: Rest of the show. 214 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,759 Speaker 1: Of course, those of you who know all about the 215 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:44,000 paranormal know about evp's electronic voice phenomena. Now, these are 216 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,480 the kind of auditory artifacts that are picked up on 217 00:11:47,639 --> 00:11:54,399 microphones during investigations by paranormal investigators around various historic places 218 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,840 or areas of note, Jenny Sullivan, who we've had on 219 00:11:57,879 --> 00:12:00,799 the show before, was good enough to sh one from 220 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:05,240 cumber House in County Derry. Jenny has headed up Emerald 221 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:10,039 Isle Paranormal Investigator since twenty sixteen and it's still going strong. 222 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,720 I just want to give a background to cumber House 223 00:12:12,759 --> 00:12:16,720 first of all, before we listen to aforementioned EVP. This 224 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,480 is a little piece from a site called Spirited Isle 225 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,840 dot i E, which I highly recommend for all things 226 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:27,440 Irish and haunting. Let's talk about cumber House, its distinguished 227 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:32,200 Georgian era estate with a deeply layered past. Constructed around 228 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,320 seventeen eighty, it was the ancestral seat of the Brown 229 00:12:35,399 --> 00:12:39,519 Lecky family, an influential land owning lineage in Ulster. The 230 00:12:39,639 --> 00:12:44,960 house showcases the refined elegance of late eighteenth century architecture, 231 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:50,320 marked by symmetrical proportions, large sash windows, and sweeping grounds 232 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,879 typical of estates belonging to the landed gentry of the time. 233 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:58,120 The Brown Leckey family held considerable social and political sway 234 00:12:58,159 --> 00:13:01,759 in the region. As major lando owners, they managed extensive 235 00:13:01,759 --> 00:13:07,039 agricultural lands and contributed significantly to the local rural economy. 236 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:13,200 Historical records suggest that the estate included farmland, forests, and 237 00:13:13,399 --> 00:13:18,200 numerous outbuildings, supporting a small community of workers, tenants, and 238 00:13:18,279 --> 00:13:24,279 domestic staff. Cumber House's historical footprint widened in the twentieth century, 239 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,879 particularly during World War II, when it was requisitioned to 240 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:32,559 house Allied troops. This wartime chapter left an enduring impression 241 00:13:32,799 --> 00:13:36,679 physically on the estate and culturally through stories of interactions 242 00:13:36,799 --> 00:13:40,120 between local residents and soldiers that have been passed down 243 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:44,519 through generations. Though the house experienced periods of decline in 244 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,440 later years, it remained a landmark of local heritage and 245 00:13:48,519 --> 00:13:51,799 a focal point of ghostly legend. One of the most 246 00:13:51,879 --> 00:13:55,720 chilling legends tied to cumber house centers on the patriarch 247 00:13:55,919 --> 00:13:59,799 of the Brown family. After his death, a local priest 248 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:04,480 reportedly declared that the elder Brown was burning in the 249 00:14:04,519 --> 00:14:09,399 fires of hell. Outraged by the claim, Brown's son confronted 250 00:14:09,399 --> 00:14:13,559 the priest and demanded proof. Pressured by the confrontation, the 251 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:17,480 priest knelt, drew a circle on the floor and began 252 00:14:17,519 --> 00:14:21,080 to pray. To the shock of onlookers, the elder Brown 253 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,600 is said to have appeared within the circle, engulfed in 254 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:31,799 flames shhh. Overcome with fear, the priest fled the estate 255 00:14:31,879 --> 00:14:36,360 and never returned. In the aftermath, another clergyman was summoned 256 00:14:36,399 --> 00:14:41,120 to perform an exorcism. According to legend, he successfully confined 257 00:14:41,159 --> 00:14:44,960 the restless spirit to a tree on the property. Even now, 258 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:50,000 strange phenomena such as scratching sounds and low moans are 259 00:14:50,039 --> 00:14:53,720 said to echo from the area around the tree. Further 260 00:14:53,799 --> 00:14:57,919 references to paranormal activity at the property have included sightings 261 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:04,720 of dark figures and shadowy apparitions, disembodied footsteps, and moaning sounds. 262 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:09,799 Hang on, oh sorry, just had to do that. Don't 263 00:15:09,799 --> 00:15:13,639 know why. Objects moving of their own accord. A vacuum 264 00:15:13,679 --> 00:15:17,720 cleaner switching itself on and musical instruments being played by 265 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:23,600 unseen forces. Now, then, dear listener, what you're about to 266 00:15:23,639 --> 00:15:28,799 hear is an EVP from cumber House. It was recorded 267 00:15:28,799 --> 00:15:33,200 on a recent investigation and the setup was essentially two 268 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:37,240 or three investigators on the property. Now, one of these 269 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:42,080 investigators starts to sing an old Irish song called Grace. 270 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,840 It's all about an Irish patriot from the nineteen sixteen 271 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:50,080 Rising called Joseph Mary Plunkett, and just before he was 272 00:15:50,159 --> 00:15:53,519 executed by the British in Kilmainham jail, he was married 273 00:15:53,879 --> 00:15:57,879 to a lady called Grace, and hence the song. It 274 00:15:57,919 --> 00:16:01,080 was a song made famous by the late Irish singer 275 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:05,080 Jim McCann and later on Old Tight Trousers himself Rod 276 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,559 Stewart butchered it. So let's listen to the song. And 277 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,840 just at the very end of it, a male voice 278 00:16:11,919 --> 00:16:16,559 comes in and says goodbye. Now make of it what 279 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,559 you will, but I do know Jenny Sullivan from Emerald 280 00:16:20,639 --> 00:16:25,039 Dial Paranormal and the most honorable and honest lady she is. 281 00:16:25,639 --> 00:16:29,120 You'll hear it, And then I play the EVP twice 282 00:16:29,279 --> 00:16:33,679 more so you can listen to it forensically. Here we go. 283 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 5: On the old fingers thereon. 284 00:16:42,919 --> 00:16:43,759 Speaker 2: To share. 285 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 4: Lucy bye bye bye. Yeah, yeah, A couple of things 286 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,639 over the years. But I've learned, well I don't. I 287 00:17:01,639 --> 00:17:04,160 suppose it's not learned. I've just become accustomed to it. 288 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,839 And I think it's kind of it's it's maybe it's 289 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,359 another sense or something. But often when you go into places, 290 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,000 you will get a feeling for the place, and you'll 291 00:17:11,039 --> 00:17:13,720 get a feeling of whether or not it's comfortable. And 292 00:17:13,759 --> 00:17:16,720 whatever cause is that. Who knows what causes that. But 293 00:17:17,319 --> 00:17:19,920 we have an intuition. We have an inbuilt intuition. I 294 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:21,720 can't describe what it is or where it comes from, 295 00:17:21,839 --> 00:17:24,119 or the physics of it or the chemistry of it, 296 00:17:24,279 --> 00:17:27,960 but it's there. And anybody will will tell you to 297 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,079 stick with your intuition. If you think something doesn't feel right, 298 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:32,680 then don't hang around. 299 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 3: Superb advice from regular contributor to Scary Era, David McGlynn 300 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:42,599 aka the Squire, and don't hang around either. If you've 301 00:17:42,599 --> 00:17:47,839 got an Irish paranormal tale to tell, simply email Paranormal 302 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:52,119 Ireland at Proton Male dot com and it'll be read 303 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,440 out for you before you get to tell it on air. Yourself. 304 00:17:56,200 --> 00:18:05,759 That's Paranormal Ireland at proton male dot com, Mark Manning. 305 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: Oh, and I would just echo, you know, get in 306 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,240 touch with us by email because that way I can 307 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:19,200 gauge basically our listenership, which I'm told by the good 308 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:23,279 people at Paranormal Radio UK is pretty good. We are 309 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:27,519 the second most we aim to please the second most 310 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:32,319 downloaded podcast on the platform, so that's what I was 311 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,920 told recently. So that's good news. But you can boss 312 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,599 that for me by contacting me if you do listen 313 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,440 to this show, you know, reach out get me at 314 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:49,119 the email address which is Paranormal Ireland at ProtonMail dot com. 315 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,519 Will you do that for me? Surprise me and I'll 316 00:18:52,519 --> 00:18:55,599 make sure that we give you a nod next time 317 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,920 we're on. So yeah, sometimes stuff just comes into your mind. 318 00:19:00,319 --> 00:19:04,000 And in my case, I vaguely remember a documentary I 319 00:19:04,039 --> 00:19:08,480 heard on radio back sometime in either the late seventies 320 00:19:08,559 --> 00:19:12,319 or early eighties. It stuck in my mind because it 321 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:17,079 concerned an unusual natural event in Ireland and this was, 322 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:21,759 believe it or not, a battle of the birds. Oh yeah, 323 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:26,440 angry birds were talking about an actual battle took place 324 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,480 and blood and feathers were spilled. So I did a 325 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:34,119 little bit of research and I discovered just over ten 326 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,720 years ago there was an article in the Irish Independent, 327 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,200 a newspaper of note here, and it concerns exactly what 328 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:45,160 I've been talking about. So basically the breed of bird 329 00:19:45,319 --> 00:19:48,759 was a starling's I believe. Here we go. The starling 330 00:19:48,799 --> 00:19:53,400 phenomenon was remarkable. Two great Mermatians, there's a word to 331 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:57,160 conjure with of the birds separately gathered over cork for 332 00:19:57,279 --> 00:20:03,200 several days, sending small emissary regroups back and forth until negotiations, 333 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:07,839 having obviously broken down, all held broke loose over the 334 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:12,200 lee on October twelfth, sixteen twenty one. It was a 335 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:17,039 gruesome affair that trembling fear and terror brought to all 336 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,839 who saw the battle fault with loud and chattering cries, 337 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:25,839 each company gainst the other flies with bloody beaks, remorseless 338 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:31,720 still their feathered foes to maim or kill. Where whilst 339 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:37,480 this battle did remain, their bodies fell like drops of rain. 340 00:20:38,079 --> 00:20:42,720 Now I know. The renowned diarist Samuel Peeps documented all this, 341 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,119 as well as a richer Channey, who produced another diary 342 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:50,359 of events seven months later, on May thirty first sixteen 343 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:55,039 twenty two followed what was described as the lamentable burning 344 00:20:55,079 --> 00:20:59,799 of Cork with fire from heaven, and the citizens overwhelmed 345 00:20:59,799 --> 00:21:02,720 with woe, for no one knew where to run or go. 346 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:07,240 The starling battle was seen as a portent, one pamphleteer 347 00:21:07,599 --> 00:21:11,799 writing reprovingly cork was first warned and then destroyed for 348 00:21:11,839 --> 00:21:16,000 her sins. Scientific sources point out that animal and bird 349 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:22,759 fights usually occur over territory, food, shelter, and mates. Introspective aggression, 350 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,799 in which animals or birds attack members of their own species, 351 00:21:27,279 --> 00:21:31,559 is widespread across the animal kingdom, from ragworms, salmon and 352 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:36,559 lobsters to songbirds, rats and chimps. There's an amusing story 353 00:21:36,599 --> 00:21:41,279 of one chimpanzee famous through the work of behavioral scientists 354 00:21:41,599 --> 00:21:45,440 the late Jane Goodall, that intimidated rivals by banging two 355 00:21:45,519 --> 00:21:50,720 oil cans together. Starling numbers have fallen considerably in recent years, 356 00:21:51,039 --> 00:21:55,799 but annual mermatians, especially over the Midlands, are welcomed by 357 00:21:55,839 --> 00:21:59,319 the public with a mixture of awe and admiration for 358 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:03,480 their peace for aerial wafting, as if to the strains 359 00:22:03,519 --> 00:22:08,599 of a celestial waltz being played only for them as 360 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,160 perhaps it may well be. 361 00:22:11,279 --> 00:22:15,319 Speaker 6: Hello Scary Era listeners. My name is Anthony Kerrigan and 362 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:19,599 I'm a member of a paranormal psychical research team called Ghosttereer. 363 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,319 You can catch up on where we have been also 364 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,079 see what we've got up in the future by logging 365 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:29,240 into our website ww dot ghostereo dot net. You can 366 00:22:29,279 --> 00:22:32,359 also watch shows of the Ghosteroid Channel, where we interview 367 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,960 numerous people in the field of the paranormal and FOURTEENA. 368 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,799 You can also check us on our social media pages 369 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,319 on Facebook, Instagram and YouTube by just typing in Ghostterer 370 00:22:43,519 --> 00:22:47,240 or Ghostereer Paranormal. You can also watch our new show 371 00:22:47,599 --> 00:22:51,839 Phantasm Collective on channels such as Prime UK and also 372 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,920 Paraflex and other streaming services to be announced. 373 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,839 Speaker 3: I just got to deal with this ghost now, who. 374 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 6: Get out to talk? 375 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:07,079 Speaker 2: Ah? 376 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 1: Yes, Anthony Old paranormal pants himself. I call him that 377 00:23:11,519 --> 00:23:16,240 because he wears these amazing kind of spangled trousers that 378 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,599 would do the edge out of you two proud, and 379 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,960 then his fingers are like Elvis. They glisten with things 380 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:28,559 like sovereigns and jewelry and skulls and all that kind 381 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,359 of stuff. And he's absolutely brilliant and a total mine 382 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,079 of information when it comes to the paranormal, So do 383 00:23:36,319 --> 00:23:40,160 check out ghost Era. Earlier, I was saying to always 384 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,480 listen to your Irish mammy, mammy being a word for 385 00:23:43,799 --> 00:23:46,480 mother or mum, as you might say in the States. 386 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,720 And my mother grew up in a place called the 387 00:23:48,839 --> 00:23:53,400 Courra in County Kildare. It's very flat, green and it's 388 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,519 famous for its Cora Racecourse. So I have a history 389 00:23:56,559 --> 00:24:01,400 going back there because her sister, my Auntie, was secretary 390 00:24:01,599 --> 00:24:05,160 of the Cora race Course way way back. AnyWho, my 391 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,599 mother used to regale me with these stories when I 392 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,279 was a kid about what she'd get up to. I 393 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,599 might have mentioned this one before, but it's relevant today 394 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,559 because of a little bit more research. So she told 395 00:24:16,599 --> 00:24:19,920 me that her and her friends used to go to 396 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:25,720 an old English estate in the region of Killaire and 397 00:24:25,799 --> 00:24:28,599 she she used to say it was blackherds or blackherds. 398 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,319 I used to pick it up like blackherds. And she 399 00:24:31,319 --> 00:24:34,599 would intrigue me with these stories about they'd mosey on up, 400 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,279 they'd hide behind a hedge and they'd look in and 401 00:24:37,319 --> 00:24:40,079 there was either a lady or one of the daughters. 402 00:24:40,079 --> 00:24:42,640 Now it's not peeping tom stuff. But they'd be looking 403 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,960 in or a maid perhaps, and they'd see this lady 404 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,480 and she'd sit down at the dresser, you know, the 405 00:24:48,559 --> 00:24:51,200 old with the mirror on top of it, and she'd 406 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,200 be doing her hair in the mirror, and she wouldn't 407 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:58,519 actually lift the comb or hairbrush. She would simply gesture 408 00:24:59,079 --> 00:25:03,319 and they would leve atta into her hands, and correspondingly 409 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:08,759 she would comb herself a nice mullet or hairdoo, burnetor whatever. 410 00:25:09,039 --> 00:25:12,119 So it was almost like there was witchcraft or something involved. 411 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,039 But I, as a younger man then I would research 412 00:25:16,079 --> 00:25:19,119 on the internet black cards, black cards, black and I 413 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,440 could not find anything. So I began to think, well, 414 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,160 maybe that was just in my head, all those things 415 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,039 she told me in the early nineteen seventies, It was 416 00:25:29,079 --> 00:25:34,039 in my head. Blackers Blacker anyway, stand back in amazement 417 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,839 because the residence she was likely referring to was called 418 00:25:39,039 --> 00:25:42,799 Castle Martin. I think it's in the area of Straffen 419 00:25:43,039 --> 00:25:47,400 in County Kildare. And guess what, folks, there was a 420 00:25:47,599 --> 00:25:52,279 major blacker in the area, probably in Castle Martin House, 421 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,359 and he had a military service with the third Battalion 422 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:01,759 Royal Dublin Fusiliers in brackets killed their militia. Major Blacker, 423 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:06,119 the second in command of the third Battalion Dublin Fusiliers, 424 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,279 has left the service, and in him the battalion has 425 00:26:09,319 --> 00:26:12,119 lost a very good officer and one who has had 426 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,119 a long connection with the battalion, for he was appointed 427 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,319 lieutenant in the Kildare Militia October eighteen seventy four and 428 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,759 has held his present rank since August eighteen eighty nine. 429 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,519 It is expected that Captain Greeson, the senior company commander 430 00:26:26,559 --> 00:26:29,319 of the battalion, will be promoted to the rank of 431 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:34,119 major in the battalion, he joined it as second lieutenant 432 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,319 in August eighteen seventy eight and was promoted to the 433 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,759 rank of captain in eighteen eighty five. Now it does 434 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:47,519 go on death of Major Blacker nays Thursday night, and 435 00:26:47,599 --> 00:26:52,279 this says. Major Blacker died this evening at five fifteen 436 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,960 at Lady Carton's residence, Westtown, Straffen, where he had lain 437 00:26:57,039 --> 00:27:01,160 since the opening meet of the Kildare Hounds. On Tuesday, fortnight, 438 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,759 when it will be remembered, his horse fell back on 439 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,559 him in a farmyard and broke his pelvis up to 440 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:13,160 midday yesterday Wednesday. His progress gave the utmost satisfaction in 441 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:17,920 his medical attendant, doctor O'Donnell Brown. But then a change 442 00:27:18,039 --> 00:27:22,200 came and Sir Thomas Miles and Surgeon Lane Joint were 443 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:26,440 summoned from Dublin. But the patient never rallied and passed 444 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:31,720 away as stated. That's an excerpt from the Freeman's Journal, Friday, 445 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:37,440 November twenty second, nineteen oh seven. So perseverance, that's what 446 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,680 it's all about. I discovered, yes, there was a link 447 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:45,440 there major Blacker or IP, and I know there's a 448 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:50,599 Castle Martin House connected there somewhere. I think he lived there. Anyway, 449 00:27:50,759 --> 00:27:54,119 I'm going to change tacked now slightly. I would like 450 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,480 you to listen to what I consider to be a 451 00:27:56,559 --> 00:28:01,319 remarkable audio recording. Is it related to Ireland, No, but 452 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,200 it is very much related to the old English families 453 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,240 that you've heard about just there. As an audio person, 454 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,279 I come across all kinds of bits of audio and 455 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,000 once stuck in my mind around two thousand and nine, 456 00:28:14,319 --> 00:28:18,000 and I discovered it in my archives only recently, and 457 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:23,759 it concerns the memories of an elderly lady. Now she 458 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,640 is recorded, i'd say sometime in the nineteen seventies or 459 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,640 nineteen eighties. She has long passed. I'd imagine. All I 460 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,720 know is her name was Olga, and she seems to 461 00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:39,000 be very opper, a crassed old school Heiti Titi cucumber sandwiches. 462 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:44,319 And she is recalling her childhood in the British raj 463 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,960 in India, where they had servants galore and were treated 464 00:28:49,119 --> 00:28:54,079 like lords. But essentially it all seemed to work. She 465 00:28:54,240 --> 00:29:00,960 begins her recollections talking about a panther's footprints in the garden. Now, 466 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,640 what I think is remarkable about this is if you 467 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,519 listen to it, Yeah, there's an interview going on, but 468 00:29:07,599 --> 00:29:10,960 it's not a really official one. It's almost like somebody 469 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,359 as an afterthought just switched on a cassette recorder to 470 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,000 listen to the ramblings of this elegant lady. And you'll 471 00:29:19,039 --> 00:29:22,480 hear that. It's not a professional interviewer. If anything, he's 472 00:29:22,599 --> 00:29:27,279 very lax. He's oh yeah, really, uh is that right? Yeah. 473 00:29:27,319 --> 00:29:31,039 He doesn't push her for information. Rather it flows and 474 00:29:31,079 --> 00:29:34,759 she imparts it as I said, most eloquently. So it's 475 00:29:34,799 --> 00:29:38,880 two people having a conversation. We're listening in and it's 476 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:43,119 almost like they are oblivious to the recording process. So 477 00:29:43,359 --> 00:29:47,880 that's what I love about it. It's almost atmospheric, it's historical, 478 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:53,359 and we really are just eavesdropping on two people. Olga 479 00:29:53,599 --> 00:29:57,839 was obviously a remarkable lady in a remarkable time. Now, 480 00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,680 if you bear with it, it's a minute or two 481 00:29:59,759 --> 00:30:02,720 long thereabouts. I'm going to let the recording play on 482 00:30:02,799 --> 00:30:06,960 a tiny bit because you'll actually hear her just shuffling about. 483 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:14,039 It's very sweet and magical. Listen up, particularly to the 484 00:30:14,119 --> 00:30:15,880 first few words. 485 00:30:16,279 --> 00:30:19,359 Speaker 7: Do you ever sort of have a recurrence of things 486 00:30:19,359 --> 00:30:25,440 that happened years and years and years ago, incidents the 487 00:30:25,559 --> 00:30:33,440 currents or memories memories? Yeah, yeah, I have one vivid 488 00:30:33,519 --> 00:30:39,599 memory of the panther's footmarks in the garden Phanta. Yes, 489 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,240 she had some dogs and they show a little way 490 00:30:44,319 --> 00:30:48,359 beyond ours, and there's always a panther there. What's a 491 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:53,559 show a little forest? Yes, a Showow is a horst 492 00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:00,799 and the stupid things come to one's mind again. I 493 00:31:00,839 --> 00:31:06,920 suddenly saw somebody connecting some drinking water. We had a spring. 494 00:31:07,359 --> 00:31:09,720 We had to go down the road to it, and 495 00:31:09,799 --> 00:31:13,559 he came out of came out of the mountain. And 496 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:21,000 you always get the drinking water from there, and of 497 00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:24,000 course I was always brought up to be very careful 498 00:31:24,039 --> 00:31:26,839 of water because we had to have a man was 499 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,880 hired for the entire day to carry water up a 500 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,400 quarter of a mile up a hill a couple of 501 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:44,599 buckets up to my mother's house. We didn't have any 502 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:50,319 polar plugs or anything like that in the ship. This 503 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,279 man was hired and the whole day he spent going 504 00:31:53,359 --> 00:31:56,839 up and down the quarter of a mile with a 505 00:31:56,839 --> 00:32:00,640 couple of kerosene tins on the end of the mm hmmm, 506 00:32:02,079 --> 00:32:03,359 I mean trips the day did he do? 507 00:32:03,759 --> 00:32:04,759 Speaker 4: Oh? I can't tell you. 508 00:32:07,119 --> 00:32:13,519 Speaker 7: Because it was quite steep. And he was known as 509 00:32:13,519 --> 00:32:17,200 the waterman. And he used to have to come at 510 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,759 five o'clock in the morning to heat the balls because 511 00:32:20,799 --> 00:32:25,759 they all had morning balls. Whatever the weather and what 512 00:32:26,319 --> 00:32:29,160 cold or hot or wet or dry, the man had 513 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,119 to be there. The baths had to be ready b 514 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:36,880 up o'clock. Heated three stones and kerosene two. 515 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:39,039 Speaker 2: Balls. 516 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,119 Speaker 4: Balls by who. 517 00:32:41,119 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 7: Family, my mother, my father. I had to show my 518 00:32:46,519 --> 00:32:49,720 mother's bath. She had first bath by way into the 519 00:32:49,799 --> 00:33:02,319 slick stark water. H huh, tin tubs, yeah, and no sanitation. 520 00:33:03,359 --> 00:33:08,799 We had thunder boxes in the garden. Mm hmm. And 521 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,319 the person who came twice a day to deal with. 522 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:14,319 Speaker 2: The leemetery. 523 00:33:15,559 --> 00:33:18,599 Speaker 7: Frankly and sanitary really is a mention of fact. You've 524 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,720 got a thunder box in the museum exactly like we had, 525 00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:28,319 and all the bathwater was connected to water the garden. 526 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,039 What was your father really kind of retired really all the. 527 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:33,559 Speaker 2: Time that you knew? 528 00:33:33,799 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 7: He retired when I was quite young, because he was 529 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:42,720 twenty years old. Were older than my mother, she was 530 00:33:42,759 --> 00:33:45,920 his second wife. Yes, but he was in the army 531 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:51,400 when when you were born. Yes, so was he away? 532 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,240 Well no, we were order secunderabad uh huh. And then 533 00:33:56,279 --> 00:33:58,720 he retired and then he went up to the hills. 534 00:34:00,519 --> 00:34:03,039 If they have a vague recollection of a place called 535 00:34:03,119 --> 00:34:08,280 your Court, which was a very horrible hill station. They 536 00:34:08,519 --> 00:34:12,199 tried to settle there and they didn't like it, just 537 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,840 full of Anglo Indians and nothing else, And so they 538 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:21,239 eventually went to the new Preas. And I remember playing 539 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:27,440 on the hilltop where they built some Luke's church and 540 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,320 there were no street lights in Koto Kay had a 541 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,679 torch and I remember seeing the panther's eyes on the bank. 542 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,760 It used to squat there waiting in case the dogs 543 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:41,320 came out. 544 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 2: Huh. 545 00:34:45,079 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 7: The dogs always had to be taken out on a 546 00:34:47,039 --> 00:34:52,440 lead after dark. I always remember seeing a panther come 547 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,000 out on the rock. I had some friends who lived 548 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,719 about two three miles out and I used to go 549 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,960 after to lunch and go and visit them. And they 550 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,360 had this house and there was a rock and four 551 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,400 the top. This panther. He was always to come out 552 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,440 off the rock and just sport itself like a cat, 553 00:35:15,159 --> 00:35:20,760 rolling over and licking itself. And I always remember that 554 00:35:21,039 --> 00:35:24,119 is to go and watch it or with a number 555 00:35:24,119 --> 00:35:28,719 of miles I walked in those days, and I mean 556 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,840 it was perfectly safe. I was able to go out 557 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:36,800 by myself. The Indians wouldn't dare to do anything. In fact, 558 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,039 they sort of would duped you. And I remember when 559 00:35:41,079 --> 00:35:44,039 my father was alive. You always used to go out 560 00:35:44,079 --> 00:35:47,880 with a gun in the evening, and I sometimes I 561 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,400 went with him. It went out with the jungles. We 562 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,360 sat behind the go of bush and waited for the 563 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,039 game to come out. Dear used to come out and graze, 564 00:35:58,159 --> 00:36:00,960 and you were used to take a gun with him, 565 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,840 but he never shot me. You used to watch a 566 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,880 few while painting things. 567 00:36:08,079 --> 00:36:08,679 Speaker 5: What's it to you? 568 00:36:09,639 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 7: What did you die of your father? Was a small 569 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:22,840 age or a heart attack? Something I think? Um hmmm 570 00:36:23,519 --> 00:36:31,360 mm hmmm mm hmm. Eighty eighty three, eighty three, eighty 571 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:44,320 three gracious, maybe it was traditionally young h really gracious. 572 00:36:46,039 --> 00:36:48,280 Was it was he overlord or did he go quite quickly? 573 00:36:49,559 --> 00:36:52,000 I think it was for about a week or something 574 00:36:52,119 --> 00:36:52,360 like that. 575 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 2: Mhm h yeah, mm hmm. 576 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:18,039 Speaker 1: What a wonderfully sweet, elderly classic British lady of her times. 577 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,719 Rest in peace, Alga. I hope you are with your 578 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,000 dear papa now enjoying all the good Lord has to 579 00:37:25,079 --> 00:37:28,199 give you. That's it on Scary Era for myself. Mark 580 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:32,239 Manningtz goodbye. Do get in touch, of course Paranormal Ireland 581 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,960 at ProtonMail dot com. I'd like to thank all our 582 00:37:36,039 --> 00:37:39,000 contributors to the show. You are the guys that make 583 00:37:39,079 --> 00:37:42,400 it happen right here. Take care because I care.