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Speaker 1: So I see nobody. My advice you're all very brave

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or very there are hell can more episodes until Christmas.

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Celge the Walkers.

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Speaker 3: That's kinds.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 5: Welcome everybody, to episode seventy of Hilbery Horror Story. If

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it sounds a little bit different because we're recording from

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a different location this week. We move out of the

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Speaker 6: Move it on up, g as we're moving on down.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, technically we have a special guest with us. Of course,

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I'm Jerry, and I've got Tracey here. Nothing special about her,

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she's here every week. But we've got a friend of mine, Ashley,

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who wants to start a podcast in the future, and

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she's sitting in with us today to just kind of

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learn what a podcaster does. Ashley, Welcome to the show. Hi, Jerry.

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Ashley is a little shy, so we won't put her

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on the spot tonight. She didn't come here to be

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interviewed or she wants to just kind of sit in

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behind the scenes see what happens that most of you

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guys don't get to see. So it should be a

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fun experience. Okay. Obviously, we want to thank all of

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our military and civil servants all around the world.

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Speaker 6: God bless you all.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, and we had a boatload of new reviews this

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past week, so thank you guys so much for that.

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So we'll just run into it real quick. The painter Rick,

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We're at five point fifty nine. Who's actually a truck

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driver up in Cresswood. So thanks for all you do.

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You guys are underappreciated. Ashley from Nebraska and Ashley, you'll

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get to hear a story tonight from a young lady

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that's actually lives in Nebraska's I think you may be

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the only two people who live in Nebraska, but we'll

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go ahead.

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Speaker 6: And don't even know it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you are probably neighbors, might be two thousand miles

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between you. But Gunner number one, Coffee Bean ninety nine,

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Java woman, I wonder if they know each other. I

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don't know. Julie Ankney, I'm pretty sure I'm but your

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dad And we got Madison mc c nice.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely Patreon supporters. We had six of you guys this week.

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Awesome Alison Richards, kayleb Michelle, Stacy Schmidt, Jordan Blue, Virgil

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Speaker 6: For your surprise, so appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: We are on new equipment this week. We brought us

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you patron supporters. Would you guys give us your hard

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earned money every month and we use it to try

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to upgrade the show and give you a bunch of

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bonus content. So thank you so much for Yeah, real quick,

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we've got the store. If you go to Hillbilly Horror

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time to get some Christmas gifts for some people. And

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we added our purple logo. If you're on our Facebook page,

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if you like that, you can now get that on

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Speaker 5: Had that shower curtain, would have had a Hillbeally horror story.

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Speaker 6: It didn't costs any more money.

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Speaker 5: So we have got some cool stories. Hopefully we can

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get Ashley to chime in at some port, but who

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knows at some port. We're doing this on the dock,

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but we're going to do the Stole Cemetery, which is

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in Stoll, Kansas, and that's a really cool story. We're

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gonna hear from Mia from Nebraska a little later. She

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has an awesome story to tell you. And we're gonna

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do some rock and roll the O cult. I know

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a lot of you keep wanting us to do some

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rock stuff, and I'll be honest with you, I'm starting

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digging to come up with some of this stuff. But

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I think we got three really cool stories. And you

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is one of the coolest stories that I think you'll

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hear a lot of coincidences in it. So we'll get

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to that a little bit later, including some Michael Jackson stuff.

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Speaker 5: Okay, and then we've got what was the other one

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jump right into this? Okay, jump right on it. Stoll

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Cemetery is located in Stoll, Kansas. It's about ten miles

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away from Lawrence. And if you know Kansas at all,

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Speaker 5: Well what is that smell?

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Speaker 6: I don't know. Was you writing the Millen story?

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my gosh, I think there's something dead in here. And

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it's not a ghost, it's a ninja's ass.

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Speaker 5: Well anyways, okay, so over, okay, Well, no, now I

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don't so Stole, Kansas is ten miles from the University

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of Kansas, which is what city is the university?

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and that's going to come into play because the town

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of Stole actually has some legends and stories that surrounded

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that area for over one hundred years. What kind of stories,

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you asked, We're a paranormal show, so it's paranormal stories,

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direction you would have went. So you see, this is

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where one of the so called seven Gates of Hell

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is located. It said that the Devil himself actually appears

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here twice a year. But the devil the two nights

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are on Halloween and the spring equinox, and we'll get

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the date of Halloween same every year. These legends obviously

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made it into the University of Kansas student newspaper in

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nineteen seventy four, which is where all this really started

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coming to light. The article said that lots of strange

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occurrences happened in the Stole area, so to speak, but

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mainly in the churchyard cemetery. The cemetery sits on top

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of stalls immanual Hill. And like I said, this is

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only ten miles from Lawrence, Kansas, which are the university is,

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so it would make sense that that's where the article

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came out of. Now, for years stories of witchcraft, ghost

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and supernatural happening around the area, especially in the cemetery

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and the crumbling church that was in the area. These

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stories had been told and retold by parents and grandparents,

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and the article written claimed that many of the students

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at the university had their own first hand accounts. One

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student claimed that his arm was grabbed by an unseen force,

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which seems to happen a lot, you know, in the area.

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they visited there, so they would just show up do

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stuff and then they didn't remember big blocks of the

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time that they were there.

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guess what happened there. Now, Like many of these places,

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the article had the accusations of witchcraft and devil worshiping

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going on there. Now the residents of Stall claimed that

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none of this is true. They claimed that they had

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never heard of any of these stories, and they were

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their town. The pastor of the new church, which is

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in there, and we'll talk more about the church later

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said he thought, basically the students just made all this

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cemetery to see the devil show up. The word also

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spread that people who died of violent death were also

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going to rise that day and return with the devil.

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the stories about Stole Cemetery have continued to grow. One

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story is that two member visiting the cemetery one night,

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a strong wind started blowing out of nowhere, and it

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scared both of them real bad, so they ran back

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to their car as fast as they could, only to

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the road from where they parked it, and in the

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opposite direction, so their car had completely switched him across

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the road and pointed in a different direction while they

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Speaker 5: Another man he said that, uh, he had the same

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thing happened with the wind, but he was inside the church,

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not the gr not the uh, the actual graveyard. He

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said that the wind knocked him down and it wouldn't

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let him basically move. He was paralyzed for a couple

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of a couple of minutes. It's not the only stories

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about the church, though. Several people claim that they can

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see it rain all around the church, but nothing ever

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gets on the floor of the church, which is amazing

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Speaker 6: I was gonna say, how would it do that anyway?

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Speaker 5: Yep, so there's no roof on the church. That's been

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gone for a long time because like I said, this

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thing is and crumbles. It's in shambles, gotcha. And so

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that's kind of odd that it would rain but not

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get the floor wet. But that's what a lot of

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Speaker 6: Okay, so the night that everybody was there, then nobody

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saw the devil or anything.

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Speaker 5: It didn't say, but we'll get into some more conspiracy

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kind of theory stuff on this a little bit later.

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steps are kind of at this point, we're all kind

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of grown up with weeds and stuff like that, but

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these are the steps where supposedly the devil does appear.

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you can see where they end. It said that you

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can on the steps and start walking down and walking

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in and you'll never get to the end. What yep,

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Speaker 6: Ooh, that's crazy.

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Speaker 5: So let's go back to the Devil and his appearances now.

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Legend says that he's been appearing here since the eighteen fifties.

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The original name of the town was supposed to be

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skull Skul, and it was later changed to Stall to

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kind of cover up the fact that what the area

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was especially the thoughts for this area was steeped in

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black magic, and they didn't want people to think that.

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Now it said that witchcraft practicing. Early settlers were so

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guilty about what they had done that they changed the

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name to Stall. The reality of it is this place

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was actually named Deer Creek Community until eighteen ninety nine,

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and then it's changed the name to Stall, so it

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was never named Skull. Stowe was the last name of

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the first town's postmaster. His name was Sylvester Stall, and

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then eventually changed it to Stollon. No, it was actually

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Sylvester Stall was his name, so they named the town

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after him, and unfortunately the post office closed down like

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four years later in nineteen oh three, but the name stayed.

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Speaker 6: Well that's dumb. Why did you just live with Deer

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Crossing That sounds a lot better.

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Speaker 5: Or whatever it was, it was Deercreek Community, but anyway,

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but anyway, so I don't know why you would name

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a town after the postmaster. I know he apparently nobody

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because he closed down for it apparently, so post office

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was then batter shape it in as it is now.

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So in nineteen eighty an article appeared in the Kansas

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City Times that said that the devil picked two places

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every year to appear twice. One of them was obviously Stall,

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and the other was somewhere on a desolate plane in India.

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Both of these appearances happened simultaneously, So the night that

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he appears Installed, he also appears at India at the

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exact same time. In case you didn't know what simultaneously meant, well.

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Speaker 6: I do. And how is that possible? Is he like

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Santa Claus?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you still believe in Santa Claus, but you can't

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believe this guy. Can Santa Claus can go around the

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whole damn world in a night. He can't in a

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stupid sleigh.

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Speaker 6: Nothing bad about him again.

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Speaker 5: Anyway, So he appears simultaneously at midnight on both of

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these nights, the devil will actually gather everybody who died

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a violent death over the past year to prance around

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the earth at which you now. So that's what the

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legend of it is. So the question is why Stall.

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Nothing against the people Installed. They obviously have an extra

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ground with people. But the article says it's because an

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event that took place in the eighteen fifties, a stable

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hand supposedly stabbed the mayor to death in the cemetery

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at the Old Stone Barn. Later that barn was converted

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into the church, which was then gutted by fire. They

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said that you could actually go in a decayne wood

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cross crucifix that was hanging on the wall if you

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walked in there at midnight, that it would turn upside down.

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Another story says that the devil CONTs a visit a

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witch that is actually buried there, and there's a headstone

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close to the church that actually says witch on it,

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but it's witt icch, so it's wittitch.

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Speaker 6: So nobody knows how to spell by the end of

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the day.

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Speaker 5: Well maybe that was somebody's name wittitch And it's just

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close up to which where they.

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Speaker 6: W what is a whi t t No, there's no

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hent at all, but he's close though, witt w i

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t t i c h widitch.

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Speaker 5: Now, there's also a tree that was cut down about

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fifteen years or so ago that was supposedly used as

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gallows to hang condemned witches. So you got that going

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where they would just hang people that were supposed witches.

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Speaker 1: By then.

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Speaker 5: Now could the bones of Satan's child be buried here?

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That's another conclusion that people came up with. One story

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is a satan and a witch had a child. The

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child was so deformed that it only lived for a

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few days, and the body was buried there in Stoll.

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walks around still here today. And there's even a picture

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that seems to show a werewolf type looking boy peeking

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out from behind a tree.

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Speaker 6: Oh that poor kid, he never had a chance.

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Speaker 5: One of the funniest stories about Stolle is in nineteen

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ninety three, it's said, and this has actually been debunked already,

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but it said that Pope John PAULA second had his

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pilot of his private plane fly around eastern Kansas on

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his way to a speaking engagement he had in Colorado

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because he didn't want to fly over the gate of Hell.

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't watch you.

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Speaker 5: But that's not true though. That was just a story

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that was made up that everybody kind of circulated. But

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I thought it was still a funny story. So as

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the legend grew over the years, the.

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Speaker 6: Crowds pinking about it.

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Speaker 5: Because the pope doesn't make very good jokes. I'm sorry,

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but that's funny.

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Speaker 6: Our pope was cool, but this was the pope in

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ninety three, so okay, not the same pope.

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Speaker 5: But as the legend grew, the crowd of people started

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getting bigger and bigger. In nineteen eighty nine, because the

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crowd was so overwhelming on Halloween night, the Douglas County

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Deputies had to put officers outside to start sending people away.

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They actually handed out tickets for criminal trespassing to anybody

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who wouln't leave. They said it was over five hundred

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people showed up the previous year and the vandalism and

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stuff was so bad that's why they were out there

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ready for him. Oh wow, So now that's kind of

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a lot of people to be showing up and trying

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to get it. Now. As time passed, obviously the residents

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are stole became more and more aggravated that these vandals

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and trespassers were destroying the property that you know, I

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guess in their loved ones and visitors were actually buried

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at so it was an issue for him. They put

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up a fence around the place and then made sure

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they patrolled it regularly. And I'm talking about the people

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of Stole, not officers. There's always somebody from the town

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going around making sure that somebody shows up, even to

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this day. Wow, no kidding, They make sure that they leave.

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They don't want anybody on that property.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a shame they have to do that.

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Speaker 5: Or do they have something to hide?

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Speaker 6: Oh I don't know detail.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because locals have actually made it clear that visitors

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are not welcome. So I think it's possible they've got

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something to hide. Now, the church was empty. Think about this.

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This church was empty for eighty years, horrible shape, no roof.

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Why didn't they tear it down? I mean, if there's

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no paranormal activities, See, why not you place Halloween to

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make money for the city. First of all, you got

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people showing up. Charge for it, but they don't want

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to do that. But people were still showing up. So

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if you don't want them showing up, why wouldn't you

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just tear down the church? If it was not usable anyway,

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and it didn't have a roof and all this stuff,

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you know you could get rid of it. So here's

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the other thing. Halloween of nineteen ninety nine reporters TV.

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So it was reported from the TV and the and

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the newspaper reporters, the sheriff were all there, crowds of

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people coming in, no big deal. But at eleven thirty

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some a representative from the cemetery came out and told

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them everybody had to leave. Well, if you want to

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squash these rumors, yeah, why would Why would you make

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them leave? They already there. You didn't have a problem

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with them being there.

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Speaker 6: You had already looking suspicions.

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Speaker 5: Now it's eleven thirty, it's a half hour for acessis happened,

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and you're just gonna come and tell everybody to leave. Now,

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did something happen at midnight? Probably not, but you could.

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You got film crews and stuff there if nothing happens,

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And their whole thing was, well, we don't want the publicity.

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It just makes it worse. Let them stay an extra

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half hour and when nothing happens, and then they would

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go in they would report saying nothing happen, and that

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should kill a lot of it.

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Speaker 6: So you think some of those people in the town

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had some kind of ritual going on or something.

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Speaker 5: I don't know. It almost sounds like they got something

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to happen.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 5: You know, awful aggravated. So you know, this guy comes

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out obviously and tells everybody to go to wait. So

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they went away. May Or March I'm sorry. March twenty nine,

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two thousand and two. The church was torn down. Well

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guess what, Major Weiss, who's the owner. He said he

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didn't authorize it. Nobody in the town knew anything about it.

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People who lived are in there said they weren't told

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there was told there was going to be any demolition.

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So somebody came in construction company. They tore down the

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church and supposedly nobody authorized it. Nobody knows why.

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Speaker 6: Well, so I'm surprised they hadn't, not maybe the the

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other people, but maybe the people in the town. Why

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they didn't destroy it years and years ago, Well I

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don't know, because but see that's where the conspiracy theory

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stuff comes from. I'm sure and they did it. They

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wouldn't Nobody would say, oh, well who they did it?

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You know what I'm saying, if that was right.

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Speaker 5: So, I mean, you've got all these different stories and

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they don't like anybody coming. But yet, yeah, they didn't

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do anything to fix the problem. And then when it

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did get tore down, it's like a big secret that

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nobody knows what happened.

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Speaker 6: Nobody knows it all so then what happened?

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Speaker 5: That's it? Oh yeah, I mean there's nothing else really

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tell me. The same stuff goes on. People still go

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up there all the time, all the time, and it's

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still listed as that. But it's just like anything else.

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If you you know, I saw some YouTube videos of

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people who drove up there and pulled in and they

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no sooner got into the video or didn't even get

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out of their car, and somebody was up there telling

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them they needed to leave.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's so.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's heavily guarded for some reason. That's just

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not a regular cemetery. If you got people camped out,

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so there's I don't know what's going on up if

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it's something's going on. Yeah, it's definitely not as it seems.

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Speaker 6: That's interesting, Ashley.

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Speaker 5: Did you like that story? Oh it's fantastic. All right,

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that's what I like to hear. That's why you're sitting here.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 5: Well, we want to do real quick. As I told you,

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we had Mia from Nebraska and this story I thought

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was phenomenal and it you guys know, if we put

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a listener's story on the main feed. Now, we do

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a lot, and it's not taken away from any of

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these other ones, but we do four or five, six

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of them every month for our Patreon supporters, and they're

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all great stories, but every once in a while, some

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of them just really stand out above and beyond it.

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We like to put it on the main show for

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everybody to hear, and this was one of those stories.

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So what I want to do is just go ahead

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and give you a chance to listen to this, and

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we'll talk about it when we get back. All right,

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We are joined on the phone by a listener who

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sent us us some ideas for some stories, and she

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also said she had some stories that she wanted to

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share with us, and it's some personal stuff, so it

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took her a little while to work up the nerve.

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But I'm excited to have Mia from Nebraska, and Mia,

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thank you for coming on the show.

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Speaker 7: Hey, good to be on the show.

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Speaker 5: So we had a chance to talk with you for

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a little bit. You seem like an absolute sweetheart. I

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know Tracy really enjoyed talking with you. I've enjoyed talking

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with you, and I know you're a little nervous about

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telling your story. But no need to be nervous. Everybody listening,

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our believers and what you're talking about. And that's why

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they listened to the show is because they like to

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hear these things that they've either had happened to them,

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or they know somebody's had something happen, or they wish

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it would happen to them. And you've actually been lucky

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enough to see some things. And I'm gonna let you

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tell the listeners what you've experienced.

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Speaker 3: Great.

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Speaker 7: Oh, well, it started when I was about seven or

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six years old. I've been like seeing things like, say

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it was a person that just walks by. You think

475
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,480
it's a real person, but it really isn't. And so

476
00:25:03,559 --> 00:25:06,559
you're like, well, did you just see that person just

477
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:11,319
walk by? They're like, no, I didn't see anybody. Oh

478
00:25:12,319 --> 00:25:16,240
maybe I'm just going crazy. But and then like it

479
00:25:16,279 --> 00:25:19,759
would scare me and like just freak me out and

480
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:24,039
think I need help or something. But you already it's

481
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,640
pretty pretty cool. Actually I can enjoy it now since

482
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,240
I got older. But the first scary one that I

483
00:25:31,279 --> 00:25:34,000
saw was, well, I was living in Green Island and

484
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,960
just sitting there just watching the stars and just being

485
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,519
alone because I you know, I needed some long time

486
00:25:41,559 --> 00:25:43,960
away from everybody. So I would just sit there and

487
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:48,440
then there's this random person that the sitting are staring

488
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,359
straight forward, and I would look at him and like

489
00:25:51,559 --> 00:25:54,480
what would be over here at middle of the night,

490
00:25:54,799 --> 00:25:58,079
and so I would try to ignore him because I

491
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,400
knew it was a ghost and so excuse my language,

492
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,720
but this is what he said. He's like, I know

493
00:26:03,799 --> 00:26:06,279
you could see me. I know you can used to

494
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:10,319
be bward, but I don't want to say it, but

495
00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:14,039
you would just like yell at me because he knew

496
00:26:14,079 --> 00:26:17,119
I could see him, And then I would stare straight

497
00:26:17,279 --> 00:26:21,000
forward and freaked out, and by the time like he

498
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,279
could even say anything else, I got up and ran

499
00:26:24,519 --> 00:26:27,839
back to the to the house. And then I'll see

500
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,759
a girl like in like a white like white dress

501
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,799
but like dark brown hair, just walking around my yard.

502
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,720
And then there was this one time I was sitting

503
00:26:38,759 --> 00:26:42,359
there with my cousin and he, you know, go inside

504
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,839
and I'd be sitting there and then because my cousins

505
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,279
or my cousin he could see like ghosts too, which

506
00:26:48,279 --> 00:26:51,079
he kind of helped me through everything and through like

507
00:26:51,599 --> 00:26:54,559
what I've been seeing and seeing if like, if that's

508
00:26:54,599 --> 00:26:57,839
a real person or goot, because they look like res

509
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,559
their people. And so there's this little boy that would

510
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,960
show himself and say, hey, come here, I want to

511
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,079
show you something. And I didn't follow him because I

512
00:27:07,079 --> 00:27:10,119
didn't want it. But that's some like legends they say

513
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,680
if you followed, goes to your death. So I didn't

514
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,440
want to follow him. And so my cousin just he's

515
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,160
the bravest person you'll ever meet. So he would follow

516
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,799
that little boy. And he just told me, oh, yeah,

517
00:27:21,799 --> 00:27:23,880
it's a dead bird. A dead bird. What would he

518
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,680
want me to show a dead bird to me? Like,

519
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:32,240
I didn't understand. He's like, well, sometimes they replay their

520
00:27:32,319 --> 00:27:35,640
life and they want to show you how how they died.

521
00:27:35,839 --> 00:27:37,759
And I'm like, I don't want to follow him the way.

522
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,720
That's crazy. So the next time, like I was living

523
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,119
in grand or None that gren I'm sorry Kimball at

524
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,839
the time, and my aunt will tell me, I don't

525
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,920
ask me if there's people that would follow me or

526
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,880
her like, oh yeah, a guy named Matt, And she goes,

527
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,680
Matt's here, I'll oh yeah, and she goes, there's a

528
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,799
song that he was just singing to me. And then

529
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,640
right then and there, I would say, king this song,

530
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,960
I never knew it. I never heard of it. There

531
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,279
was there, so I had never like read or anywhere.

532
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,559
So I would just sing the song and she would

533
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,319
cry and she goes, yeah, that's the song. That's the

534
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,440
song about he dedicated to me. I'm like, she's like,

535
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,480
how did you know that he was standing where besides

536
00:28:16,559 --> 00:28:20,799
you singing it to you to start crying more. And

537
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,960
the second time here in Grand Island, like my cousin,

538
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,359
it's a girl cousin. She called me one time freaking

539
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,240
out like she's like, I need your help me, I

540
00:28:32,279 --> 00:28:35,160
need I need your help. I'm freaking out. He please

541
00:28:35,279 --> 00:28:38,119
come over. So because she knew I saw those but

542
00:28:38,279 --> 00:28:40,599
she I don't know if she believed it or not

543
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,079
or anything like that. So I went over there and

544
00:28:44,119 --> 00:28:47,160
she's like he came. Oh my gosh, I'm like freaking

545
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,640
out right now. I need your help. So you know, like, yeah,

546
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,240
what's going on? Like how can I help you? She goes,

547
00:28:52,279 --> 00:28:55,359
there's this guy downstairs and I don't know who he is.

548
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,519
Excuse me. ELM told her that Kimball Ell, where we lived,

549
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:04,039
was north side of Kimball and she would. I would

550
00:29:04,039 --> 00:29:06,920
tell her that this was the old Kimball and you

551
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,160
know there, yeah, there was cowboys and like old Kimball,

552
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,039
and so she looked it up and she's like, wow,

553
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,519
that's crazy, and she just tell me what happened, and

554
00:29:17,559 --> 00:29:20,200
I go, yeah, it's a cowboy. He died here and

555
00:29:20,279 --> 00:29:24,759
I described him head from head to toe and she

556
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,359
freaked out. She says, oh, my gosh, that's the same

557
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,759
guy I saw my dream like you described him like

558
00:29:31,839 --> 00:29:35,599
to the tea. I go, oh, I did, Like, yeah,

559
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,559
I totally believe you that. Oh my gosh, I can't

560
00:29:38,559 --> 00:29:44,440
believe whatever doubted you. So oh okay. And you know,

561
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,599
I used to help my aunt here clean his little

562
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:52,119
schools here, and I would see little ghosts and other

563
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,680
ghosts there. And once i'm I'm like, after I saw this,

564
00:29:56,759 --> 00:30:01,400
I never went back to that school. There's this guy

565
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:06,359
that was standing beside my aunt and then he would

566
00:30:06,359 --> 00:30:09,440
disappear in the next room. I'm I go, Auntie, did

567
00:30:09,559 --> 00:30:13,240
you just see who or see that guy? Because that guy,

568
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,440
that guy that just right into that room. So I

569
00:30:16,519 --> 00:30:19,319
went over there and he's just studying there. He told

570
00:30:19,319 --> 00:30:22,720
me to get out, like, oh my gosh, Okay, and

571
00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:25,640
he was like he was really evil. I could feel it.

572
00:30:26,759 --> 00:30:29,279
And so I'm like, okay, I'm getting out of here.

573
00:30:29,759 --> 00:30:34,680
I'm not staying here at all. So we got out

574
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,759
there and I told my aunt what happened because I

575
00:30:36,799 --> 00:30:39,640
was freaking out and I needed to go. I told

576
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,440
my auma what happened, and she goes, it's gonna be okay.

577
00:30:42,839 --> 00:30:46,440
Just ask God for help. All I did. That was

578
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:54,160
so scary. And then well, my cousin or my boyfriend

579
00:30:55,039 --> 00:31:00,759
sister had a baby that passed away and I didn't

580
00:31:00,839 --> 00:31:04,359
know it, like I didn't know that she did that,

581
00:31:05,279 --> 00:31:11,559
and nobody else told me what happened. And he come

582
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,039
up to me and say he told my mommy. I

583
00:31:14,119 --> 00:31:16,720
said hi, and I love her and it wasn't her fault.

584
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,400
And Caleb just calm down, it's gonna be okay. I'll

585
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,680
tell her when when you know, I come out with

586
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,839
my gift. Just you gotta tell her. You've gotta tell her. Well,

587
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,160
she'll never know, so just calm down, I'll tell her.

588
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,720
So we were sitting on the on the ground outside

589
00:31:36,839 --> 00:31:42,000
and I told her you probably take him crazy. But

590
00:31:42,799 --> 00:31:47,319
Caleb says he loves you and that he it wasn't

591
00:31:47,359 --> 00:31:51,079
your fault, and he wished she could be here right now,

592
00:31:51,119 --> 00:31:53,680
and she just start crying. She's like, how did you

593
00:31:53,799 --> 00:31:56,039
know that? How did you know that I wants the baby,

594
00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:00,079
like because Caleb told me, but he loves you to

595
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,279
just started crying and she's like, oh my gosh, I

596
00:32:02,319 --> 00:32:08,720
needed that. So I'm trying to think what else there

597
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:16,799
was that was kind of creepy. I can't really think

598
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:25,680
of anything that hold on. Sorry, okay I wrote all

599
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:31,000
this down, but anyways, like right now, the house I

600
00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:33,319
live in is kind of creeping me out because I

601
00:32:33,359 --> 00:32:37,640
know there's some somebody there because I tried to heat

602
00:32:37,759 --> 00:32:40,400
up some food from my boyfriend because he was hungry.

603
00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:46,559
So I went out and like I swear that I

604
00:32:46,599 --> 00:32:50,880
thought was my boyfriend that came into the kitchen and

605
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,240
it came like really fast, like he was walking really fast,

606
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,759
and I look over and there was nobody there. I'm like, uh,

607
00:32:58,799 --> 00:33:05,200
that's kind of creepy. And so let's basically my story.

608
00:33:05,319 --> 00:33:07,559
If I have any more stories, I'll let you know.

609
00:33:09,079 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 5: Well, I greatly appreciate you coming on because I know

610
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,720
it takes a lot of guts to share stuff like that.

611
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:19,759
I mean, that's people always have that thought process that

612
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,240
if they say stuff like that, you're gonna have two

613
00:33:23,279 --> 00:33:27,559
ways of thinking. You're either going to say, man, that's incredible,

614
00:33:27,839 --> 00:33:30,119
and I wish I had those kind of gifts, where

615
00:33:30,119 --> 00:33:32,000
I'm glad I don't have those kind of gifts, and

616
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,279
then you feel like there's gonna be the other half

617
00:33:34,759 --> 00:33:38,559
if not more say, there's no way any of that's true,

618
00:33:38,599 --> 00:33:41,559
she's making it up. So it's tough to share stuff

619
00:33:41,599 --> 00:33:47,359
like that because you just don't know the thought process

620
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:48,680
of whoever you're talking to.

621
00:33:50,079 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, because there's people that can see ghost and I

622
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:55,640
know it.

623
00:33:56,119 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 5: I don't doubt that for a second. And so let

624
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,279
me ask you this on on let's go back to

625
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:08,360
the situation with the uh, the baby with the young

626
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,679
lady who had lost a child. Mm hmm, how did

627
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,480
the how did the child appear to you? I mean,

628
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,079
it was it? What did it look like a baby?

629
00:34:19,159 --> 00:34:20,840
Did it look like just an anerton?

630
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 7: I believe that people who are older and die, like

631
00:34:32,559 --> 00:34:38,320
say a person's grandma, they come back younger than they

632
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,519
were before, because you know, it was the peaceful state

633
00:34:42,599 --> 00:34:47,519
it was there. There felt so better kind of state,

634
00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:52,159
you know, And I believe the babies who die as babies,

635
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,920
they come back like a little bit older, say about

636
00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:01,119
six or twelve. He was about he was about seven, Okay,

637
00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:04,519
you look seven. Anyways, I don't really know.

638
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 5: I mean, that's the kind of thing old. That's the

639
00:35:07,519 --> 00:35:09,199
kind of things that I always wondered. I heard a

640
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,440
psychic one time, and I can't remember who it was.

641
00:35:12,519 --> 00:35:14,760
It was one of the bigger names out there, but

642
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,079
they said that when older people died, they come back

643
00:35:18,119 --> 00:35:21,960
at around age thirty. And I thought, well, that's that's fine,

644
00:35:22,559 --> 00:35:24,559
But what about people who passed away before they even

645
00:35:24,639 --> 00:35:26,920
get to thirty, you know, how do they come back?

646
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 7: Yeah? Usually, like if they die in their twenties, they're

647
00:35:33,559 --> 00:35:34,800
still in their twenties.

648
00:35:36,679 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 5: So if they try, that's how I think of it.

649
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,880
If they die in a tragic accident or something, they

650
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,000
don't come back in that state. They come back in

651
00:35:45,679 --> 00:35:47,920
a state that they were happy and in life. Right.

652
00:35:48,639 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 7: Yes, yes they do actually, because I know I saw

653
00:35:53,599 --> 00:35:56,480
my cousin that passed away not too long ago. She

654
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,480
was she can't come back all made up like you know,

655
00:36:00,159 --> 00:36:03,320
to hear that peace. I mean, I believe that people

656
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,840
that die like that and they're more at peace. They

657
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:11,239
do come back like that like they were, you know, dead.

658
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:17,039
Speaker 5: So let me ask you this. Have you ever experienced anybody,

659
00:36:18,039 --> 00:36:22,440
Has anybody ever shown themselves to you that had committed suicide?

660
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 3: Oh?

661
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 5: Yes, and yes, and did you get a no, you're okay?

662
00:36:30,559 --> 00:36:33,559
But what what kind of information did you get from them?

663
00:36:33,599 --> 00:36:37,199
Did you get any kind of indication that even though

664
00:36:37,199 --> 00:36:39,920
they had committed suicide, that there was some kind of

665
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,400
peace in the afterlife or because you know that depending

666
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,760
on what religion you are, some people believe that if

667
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,320
you commit suicide that that's just a straight ticket to hell,

668
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:55,039
no way, fans or butts, and then some people believe that, uh,

669
00:36:55,119 --> 00:36:58,199
that's not necessarily the case, because it depends on your

670
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,440
frame of mind. It depends on if you're in sound mind,

671
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,760
It depends on what kind of tragedy that you've went to.

672
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,960
So there's so many different philosophies. What have you What

673
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,599
did you get out of the experience that you had?

674
00:37:11,039 --> 00:37:14,119
Speaker 7: I got out of it like he was. You know,

675
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,840
some of them come like peaceful, but some of them

676
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:24,440
come evil. I think some of them do find heaven

677
00:37:24,679 --> 00:37:28,719
and some of them don't. That's how I got from it.

678
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:34,280
Like the last one I saw, I felt peace, But

679
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,519
it just kind of depends on what we're they're at,

680
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:41,360
we're at in their life at that moment. Well, here's

681
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:42,559
that's how I feel about it.

682
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 5: Here's another question, and based on you know, the philosophy,

683
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,559
there's there's all kinds of different. Once again, it depends

684
00:37:50,599 --> 00:37:52,480
on the religion that you are and what you believe.

685
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:57,199
But you know, the Bible speaks if you're if you're

686
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:01,599
a Christian at least, it speaks of you know, when

687
00:38:01,639 --> 00:38:10,360
you die, you basically are supposedly here until the rapture,

688
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,159
and at that point in time, God's going to take

689
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,079
up all the souls and take the ones that are

690
00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:18,679
going with them, but you're pretty much here until then.

691
00:38:19,079 --> 00:38:23,159
But if that's the case, I can't imagine that there

692
00:38:23,199 --> 00:38:27,559
are spirits walking around, so to speak, the earth and

693
00:38:27,599 --> 00:38:31,800
showing themselves because from what I've always understood, you would

694
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,159
basically be inside your body even though you really aren't.

695
00:38:35,159 --> 00:38:38,519
But that's kind of where you're at until the rapture.

696
00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:46,000
But you obviously see people that are interacting with people

697
00:38:46,079 --> 00:38:48,679
who are alive, and what have you? What kind of

698
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:54,280
thought process have you had from your visions and everything

699
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,599
on what happens when somebody passes away. Are there people

700
00:38:57,639 --> 00:39:00,719
who go to the light so to speak, and cross

701
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,239
over into a heaven right then? Because if that's the case,

702
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,079
that's not what a lot of people have been told

703
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,119
according to the biblical sense. What kind of what what

704
00:39:11,159 --> 00:39:13,760
do you see? What do you think based on what

705
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:14,320
you've seen?

706
00:39:17,079 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 7: Well, I think some of them are basically here because

707
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:27,440
they have a finished business. That's what I think. Yeah,

708
00:39:27,639 --> 00:39:29,840
I mean, you could tell them go to the light,

709
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,639
but some of them don't really go to the light.

710
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,400
But yeah, some of that what you just said is

711
00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:39,679
kind of what I kind of believe, but not really

712
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,559
Like I believe they have a finished business and that's

713
00:39:42,599 --> 00:39:43,360
fur they're here.

714
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:52,679
Speaker 5: Because that's okay. So I guess the question is if

715
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,599
what I was taught growing up is that nobody goes

716
00:39:56,639 --> 00:40:00,440
to heaven until the rapture, then what happens when somebody

717
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,440
goes to the light, because that sounds like they're crossing

718
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,920
over into heaven, But that would contradict what I've been

719
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,719
taught my whole life. If you can, you know, if

720
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,599
there's a way to die right now and go straight

721
00:40:12,599 --> 00:40:14,880
to heaven, that's just not what I've been told happens.

722
00:40:15,039 --> 00:40:17,320
And that's what I've always been curious about with some

723
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:18,000
of this stuff.

724
00:40:19,679 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, well it really what you believe is totally trip

725
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,440
and what I believe. But I mean, I'm not like

726
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,760
judging you about what you believe.

727
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,079
Speaker 5: But oh, I don't know what I believe, to be

728
00:40:40,079 --> 00:40:42,599
honest with you, that's just what I've been taught. I

729
00:40:42,639 --> 00:40:47,679
have no clue what I believe. I am so confused

730
00:40:48,519 --> 00:40:51,960
about what I believe today as to what I was taught.

731
00:40:52,199 --> 00:40:54,079
That's why that's why I said what I was taught

732
00:40:54,119 --> 00:40:58,039
growing up, because I really have no clue what I believe.

733
00:40:58,079 --> 00:41:00,159
I am more confused than I've ever been in my

734
00:41:00,199 --> 00:41:01,880
life on my belief system right now.

735
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 7: Oh well that is to me. I just really do

736
00:41:08,639 --> 00:41:14,079
believe that. You know, they're here to do some unfinished

737
00:41:14,079 --> 00:41:18,440
business and they can't leave until they do that unfinished business.

738
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,760
And I've been told to help them find the lights.

739
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,119
I'm like, I don't know how to do that. Like

740
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:30,719
I tried, and they still stuck, and I mean, yeah

741
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,280
I did. Also, I have to see evil too, So

742
00:41:36,199 --> 00:41:41,039
I've forgot to tell you a little story that I

743
00:41:41,119 --> 00:41:49,880
kind of encountered with somebody evil. Well, I was. It

744
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,800
just was back in that island and I was playing

745
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,599
outside with my cousins and we had the stumb cellars

746
00:41:56,639 --> 00:42:00,599
that had a big hill on it, and it would

747
00:42:00,679 --> 00:42:05,199
just like go down and in there for like tornadoes

748
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,519
or whatever. One time I was walking around and I

749
00:42:09,639 --> 00:42:12,639
was down there and I saw these two red eyes

750
00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:18,119
and the feeling I had was like read. It was

751
00:42:18,199 --> 00:42:21,159
like evil, like you can't you can't stand there, and

752
00:42:21,199 --> 00:42:25,119
then like okay, well, I'm gonna leave. And my brother

753
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:30,039
told me that, Yeah. It was one time he was

754
00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:34,199
talking and he heard heard some or something that goes

755
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,280
get how at that, and then they just get deeper

756
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,280
and then deeper and then deeper and then deeper. It's

757
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,920
like my brother was so scared he didn't know what

758
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,119
to do. They came, he said, he almost peet himself.

759
00:42:47,199 --> 00:42:51,599
I'm like, oh, okay, that's good to know, I guess.

760
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:57,920
But yeah, like some of them are just playing evil

761
00:42:58,039 --> 00:43:02,079
on some of them are good. I mean, yeah, I

762
00:43:02,119 --> 00:43:06,079
do believe that the ones that are evil they stay

763
00:43:06,119 --> 00:43:11,159
here on earth because they want to turn people against

764
00:43:11,199 --> 00:43:16,639
people and you know, just like possession. You know, like, yeah,

765
00:43:16,639 --> 00:43:19,559
I do believe that, But if you don't want them

766
00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:22,599
to possess you. You don't have to let them in.

767
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,840
I think it's kind of like the rules that they

768
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,199
had to go by, just like ghosts. They had to

769
00:43:29,199 --> 00:43:32,599
go through this rule or that rule, and it's just

770
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,920
it's kind of weird. It's like they have rules that

771
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,400
they can't do or that's not how I feel about it.

772
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,559
I mean basically, I don't know.

773
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,039
Speaker 5: Well, I think it's good. I think they need rules.

774
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,199
That way, we got some kind of guidelines we can

775
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:49,599
go by.

776
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:51,519
Speaker 7: Yeah.

777
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, Mia, thank you so much for coming on

778
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,880
the show. I greatly appreciate it. And like I said,

779
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,000
I think a lot of people out there listening will

780
00:44:00,159 --> 00:44:02,360
enjoy what you had to say.

781
00:44:02,639 --> 00:44:06,559
Speaker 7: Yeah, and also I want to tell everybody if you

782
00:44:06,559 --> 00:44:10,280
guys are scared to say tell them, tell people your story.

783
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,800
Don't be like if they think you're crazy, then you

784
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,719
don't need that kind of person in your life.

785
00:44:15,679 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 5: I agree. So well, Thank you so much, Darlin, and

786
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:20,880
I'll talk to you soon.

787
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:22,639
Speaker 7: Thank you bye.

788
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,639
Speaker 5: That's almost like the sixth synth type stuff. Just see

789
00:44:25,639 --> 00:44:28,679
dead people all the time. Sure, I see dead people

790
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,239
all the time, you do, yeah, well, if they're at

791
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:32,599
the cemetery in.

792
00:44:32,679 --> 00:44:35,519
Speaker 6: Funerals, well I don't count, okay.

793
00:44:35,679 --> 00:44:37,119
Speaker 5: Well, I mean I just want to fit in.

794
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,199
Speaker 6: Well, it don't count, okay me.

795
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,639
Speaker 5: And thank you for sharing your story. I know, I

796
00:44:42,639 --> 00:44:44,199
know that was very tough for you to do, but

797
00:44:45,159 --> 00:44:47,119
you talked to us on the phone for probably thirty

798
00:44:47,159 --> 00:44:49,599
minutes before we did that, and it took you a

799
00:44:49,639 --> 00:44:51,800
while to get up the nerve to tell us, to

800
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,360
even call us to tell us a story. But we

801
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,639
greatly appreciate it and we think it will actually benefit

802
00:44:55,679 --> 00:44:56,480
a lot of people out there.

803
00:44:56,559 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you for sharing that.

804
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,199
Speaker 5: Are you ready to hear some rock and roll stuff?

805
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 6: Yeah?

806
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 5: Actually, you're ready to hear some rock and roll stuff.

807
00:45:03,039 --> 00:45:06,119
This is your favorite kind of stuff. So all right,

808
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,159
we're gonna start off with some Michael Jackson stuff. And

809
00:45:09,199 --> 00:45:11,840
I don't know how I hadn't heard this already, because

810
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,320
this actually was pretty big news. Oh it's been on

811
00:45:15,639 --> 00:45:18,920
in Vanity Fair, it was on CNN. And the story

812
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:23,599
basically goes that Michael Jackson got involved with some voodoo

813
00:45:23,679 --> 00:45:28,280
priests and had three separate ceremonies, one of which he

814
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,719
was cleansed with sheep blood ooh. In another, he paid

815
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,519
one hundred and fifty thousand dollars to have forty two

816
00:45:35,639 --> 00:45:39,920
cows ritually sacrificed in Africa so he could hurse his

817
00:45:40,159 --> 00:45:43,559
enemies and be blessed. Two of his enemies, by the way,

818
00:45:43,559 --> 00:45:50,440
were Steven Spielberg and David Geffen. David Geffen is the

819
00:45:50,559 --> 00:45:54,360
music mogul. He was Michael's manager for a time. He

820
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,519
was on his record label for a while, but apparently

821
00:45:56,559 --> 00:46:00,960
he was like on. Michael was on his record label

822
00:46:01,039 --> 00:46:03,639
during like a slump in his career. It was after

823
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,480
Thriller and things that started to decline a little bit,

824
00:46:06,559 --> 00:46:09,559
so and Spielberg apparently had asked him to do some

825
00:46:09,599 --> 00:46:11,719
projects or talk to him about doing some projects, but

826
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,079
then never followed through with it.

827
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 6: Oh so that's whack.

828
00:46:15,159 --> 00:46:18,159
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it was. They were two of the ones

829
00:46:18,199 --> 00:46:20,519
that were named, but it was mostly other people that

830
00:46:20,559 --> 00:46:22,880
were closer. But he actually was trying to put curses

831
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:27,199
on these people. So the ceremonies actually took place in Geneva, Switzerland,

832
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,239
and they had to send a transfer, a money transfer

833
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,719
to Africa to have the cows murdered.

834
00:46:34,079 --> 00:46:35,639
Speaker 6: That sounds like a scam.

835
00:46:37,639 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 5: They could, mister Jackson, if you could only send me

836
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,760
one hundred and fifty thousand dollars American currency. That's a

837
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,519
that's an Indian accident. I don't know where they came from.

838
00:46:47,599 --> 00:46:50,199
They were in Indian elephants. Oh, they were cows. Never

839
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,639
mind it, we're completely off track. They wouldn't do that

840
00:46:52,639 --> 00:46:53,559
India because they're sacred.

841
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 6: I mean, seriously, if you think about what you just said,

842
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,159
it certainly sounds like a scam, like if somebody was scamming. Yes,

843
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,239
I'm sure, Oh my gosh. So so they.

844
00:47:02,159 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 5: Sent this money to Africa, killed these cows.

845
00:47:04,079 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 6: How did he come up forty two cows?

846
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 4: What?

847
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 5: I want to have no idea. And in the third ritual,

848
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,760
they had actual animals that were on the French and

849
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,719
Swiss border and that was going to go down and

850
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,400
for some reason it just didn't happen. But that was

851
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:21,960
for another blessing. So that actually happened. That was told

852
00:47:22,639 --> 00:47:26,360
from Michael Jackson to this marine or for in Vanity

853
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:26,719
fair to.

854
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 6: The Oh my gosh, like he told that story. Seriously,

855
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,239
Oh he's dead. You can't talk about it.

856
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:38,519
Speaker 5: He's a dead nut job either way. It's like fruitcake, fruitcake, Yeah,

857
00:47:38,519 --> 00:47:39,280
you had fruit cake.

858
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 6: It's no, I will never have free cake.

859
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 5: Okay, Well, this is a story. We're not going to

860
00:47:46,119 --> 00:47:48,360
end on this one, but I think this is maybe

861
00:47:48,519 --> 00:47:54,119
the most fascinating of the stories. Was Jimmy Hendricks actually murdered.

862
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,559
Speaker 7: I hurt?

863
00:47:58,639 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 6: Well, no, but I've heard some fing things that kind

864
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,199
of make you think about the situation.

865
00:48:03,639 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 5: Well, I'm sure we're going to talk about those things,

866
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,079
and I won't put you on the spot and ask

867
00:48:07,119 --> 00:48:08,000
you what those things are.

868
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:12,679
Speaker 6: Well, thank you, you know, because I can't say that.

869
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 5: We've all heard that Jimmy Hendrix choked to death on

870
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:20,840
his own vomit. Yes, that's the story. There's a lot

871
00:48:21,159 --> 00:48:25,280
of questions about what happened that day though that never

872
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:29,920
really came out. And like, for example, all right, nobody

873
00:48:30,119 --> 00:48:33,840
ever interviewed the ambulance driver or the doctor from the

874
00:48:34,159 --> 00:48:41,800
er before putting a death certificate out. Now, the rumors

875
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,880
that were actually reported said that he had taken nine

876
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,360
sleeping pills and he had wine oozing out of his

877
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,599
mouth and almost a whole bottle of wine in his hair.

878
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,480
This was according to the police report that was you

879
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,239
know where they had found him at. Now you also

880
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:02,440
got the report from Monica. Now Monica Danaman was somebody

881
00:49:02,519 --> 00:49:04,719
that he rarely barely knew. He only knew her for

882
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,840
a short time, and she actually worked for his manager,

883
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,599
which we're going to talk about in a few minutes,

884
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:14,800
which will be our main suspect. Now, Monica Daneman, Jimmy

885
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,039
had went to an old girlfriend's house that night in London.

886
00:49:17,039 --> 00:49:19,400
They were in England. He went to an old girlfriend's

887
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:23,480
house and spent some time with her. Monica Daneman pulled

888
00:49:23,599 --> 00:49:26,360
up in her car and started laying on the horn

889
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,519
to the point where he just got up, told the

890
00:49:29,559 --> 00:49:31,239
girl he was leaving, and then he went with her

891
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,119
and went back to her hotel room. Okay, this was

892
00:49:34,159 --> 00:49:39,519
the night that he actually died, and that's the room

893
00:49:39,519 --> 00:49:43,199
where they actually found Jimmy. Now, she says that she

894
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,760
got up, went to the store to get a pack

895
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:49,400
of cigarettes and he was fine. Now, when the when

896
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:55,800
the ambulance driver and stuff showed up, there was nobody there.

897
00:49:56,159 --> 00:49:58,679
The door was open so they could come straight in,

898
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:05,719
and nobody has any record of who called the ambulance.

899
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,920
So she just leaves leaves the door wide open, unlocked,

900
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,679
and nobody knows a namage called. Now. She also says

901
00:50:16,039 --> 00:50:18,599
that in her story that she made Jimmy a tuna

902
00:50:18,639 --> 00:50:21,679
fish sandwich because he wanted one, and then she left

903
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:22,440
to go to the store.

904
00:50:22,639 --> 00:50:24,199
Speaker 6: Wait, I thought he didn't like ten fish.

905
00:50:24,199 --> 00:50:26,599
Speaker 5: He doesn't. He absolutely hated ten of fish and would

906
00:50:26,639 --> 00:50:28,960
never eat a ten of fish sandwich. So that doesn't

907
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:33,840
make any sense whatsoever. So why would he be murdered? Well,

908
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:38,599
James Wright, which goes by Tappy James Tappy Wright. He

909
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,519
says that Jimmy's manager, Michael Jeffrey, stood to collect millions

910
00:50:42,519 --> 00:50:46,199
of dollars off of his insurance policy. James Wright was

911
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,599
an assistant to Mike Jeffries, and he said Michael Jeffrey,

912
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:54,039
in a drunken confession, said that he killed Jimmy by

913
00:50:54,039 --> 00:50:58,159
stuffing pills into his mouth. Why because the pills killed

914
00:50:58,199 --> 00:51:03,320
the gag reflex. So with no gag reflex, he had

915
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:07,320
several men come in holding down and pour bottles of

916
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,360
red wine down his throat and with no gag reflex,

917
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:16,000
it went straight into his lungs. He was basically waterboarded,

918
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:17,840
just like you hear with all the torture and stuff

919
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,679
going on. Now, that makes sense because the autopsy report

920
00:51:21,079 --> 00:51:25,760
only showed Jimmy having the equivalent of about two beers. Now,

921
00:51:26,079 --> 00:51:31,119
if he had enough wine coming out of his mouth

922
00:51:31,159 --> 00:51:33,039
to where there was a whole bottle of wine in

923
00:51:33,079 --> 00:51:37,199
his hair, but there was only two beers worth of

924
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:42,000
alcohol in his system. That doesn't make sense. That sounds

925
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:48,079
amazingly like most of this alcohol went into his system

926
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:52,360
after he was already dead, and that ties right in

927
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,280
to what this guy is basically saying that this went

928
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,199
right into his lungs. He choked to death on that

929
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,039
and most they just kept pouring. But now there's no

930
00:52:01,079 --> 00:52:03,960
blood pumping in his body, so the alcohol's not going

931
00:52:04,039 --> 00:52:11,159
to get into his bloodstrain. Why killed Jimmy, that's the

932
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:15,400
question here. Jeffrey had gotten when that Jimmy was actually

933
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:19,800
gonna leave him for another manager. The problem with that

934
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,159
is Mike Jeffery had actually borrowed about a million dollars

935
00:52:23,199 --> 00:52:26,920
from the Mob to build Electric Lady Land studio. And

936
00:52:27,039 --> 00:52:29,320
if you don't have Jimmy Hendrix, which was his only

937
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,079
real client, he's got no way to pay the Mob back.

938
00:52:32,119 --> 00:52:33,519
And we know what happens when you don't pay the

939
00:52:33,559 --> 00:52:34,440
Bob back their money.

940
00:52:34,599 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 6: Yep.

941
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 5: So let's go back to how Jimmy was found. He

942
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:41,039
was actually alone on his back. He said the door

943
00:52:41,119 --> 00:52:44,039
was opened the gas fireplace was on no record or

944
00:52:44,079 --> 00:52:48,599
the ambulance. The cause of death was listed as barbituates intoxication,

945
00:52:48,679 --> 00:52:50,960
which with the pills and inhalation of vomit.

946
00:52:52,599 --> 00:52:54,039
Speaker 6: This sounds like a horrible way to.

947
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:58,519
Speaker 5: Go right now. Wright says that he overheard Jeffrey telling

948
00:52:58,639 --> 00:53:00,840
Monica Daneman that was the one whose room it was,

949
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:06,280
well done, darling, here's your money. He didn't know what

950
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,199
that was in reference to at the time, because at

951
00:53:08,199 --> 00:53:09,840
this point they didn't know that Jimmy was dead.

952
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 6: Wait, who said that, I'm sorry? Who said that?

953
00:53:12,079 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 5: He heard Mike Jeffries, Jimmy's manager, say that to dan Eman.

954
00:53:16,039 --> 00:53:18,800
This is the same guy that, right, Tappy Wright that

955
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,760
says that he was the assistant, so he was in there.

956
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,599
He overhears him saying, hey, basically, well done, darling, here's

957
00:53:25,599 --> 00:53:28,840
your money. Then he finds out later that Jimmy's dead.

958
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,880
Now he wasn't sure, obviously what he was referring to

959
00:53:32,599 --> 00:53:37,639
until Mike Jefferies had his little drunken confession talk with it.

960
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:41,360
Right said that Jefferies' face was pale during his conversations

961
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,800
when he's telling him this, and he said that he

962
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,760
had like he was clutching his glass, his drinking glass,

963
00:53:47,119 --> 00:53:50,280
with like so much rage that you could tell he

964
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,760
was pissed off just talking about it. He said, look,

965
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,280
I had to do it, Tappy. You understand, don't you?

966
00:53:58,159 --> 00:54:00,960
I had to You know damn well what I'm talking about.

967
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:08,000
And you know he's like he was in some Jeffrey

968
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,400
said that he was in London with some friends. We

969
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,800
went to Monica's room, got a handful of pills, stuffed

970
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,480
it into his mouth, and poured a few bottles of

971
00:54:16,599 --> 00:54:20,039
wine right into his windpipe. He said that Jimmy was

972
00:54:20,079 --> 00:54:22,480
worth more to him dead than he was alive, and

973
00:54:22,519 --> 00:54:24,199
the son of a bitch was going to leave me.

974
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,519
If I lost him, I'd lose everything. So that was

975
00:54:28,599 --> 00:54:33,039
his confession that he told Tappy. How much of it

976
00:54:33,079 --> 00:54:35,320
is true, who knows, But I can tell you this.

977
00:54:37,159 --> 00:54:39,280
The girl that he was over to singing his former

978
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,400
girlfriend the night that Monica Daneman came out, was honking

979
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:46,239
the horn. Less than about a year after his funeral,

980
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,440
she killed herself by jumping off the Hotel Chelsea. Oh my,

981
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:54,599
which if you're unfamiliar with the Hotel Chelsea, we need

982
00:54:54,639 --> 00:54:56,159
to do a whole story on that, because all kinds

983
00:54:56,199 --> 00:55:01,480
of bad shit happened, including girl, the little Asian girl

984
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,880
that went missing and she ended up in the water

985
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,960
tank on top. That's actually the hotel Chelsea. So I

986
00:55:09,039 --> 00:55:10,360
can't think of her name right off the bat, but

987
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,199
everybody knows that story. They've as seen in the video

988
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,000
of her getting on and off the elevator and all

989
00:55:14,039 --> 00:55:17,320
that weird shit that went on. But that's actually the

990
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,920
same hotel. So this girl, his ex girlfriend, jumps off

991
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,480
of the area attress funeral. Monica Daneman, the chick that

992
00:55:24,599 --> 00:55:29,800
supposedly helped set him up. She committed suicide two years

993
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,840
later in her Mercedes ben She ran a hose from

994
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,559
the exhaust pipe to the inside and killed herself with

995
00:55:35,599 --> 00:55:39,599
carbon monoxide poisoning. Mike Jeffries, his manager, the one that

996
00:55:39,639 --> 00:55:43,960
supposedly did all this. He was a master of explosives.

997
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,719
He knew he was like a part of James Bond

998
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:51,119
M sixteen or whatever whatever it's called. It's like a

999
00:55:51,159 --> 00:55:53,599
fan club James Bond deal. But he was a master

1000
00:55:53,639 --> 00:55:55,639
of explosives. He scared the hell out of people. A

1001
00:55:55,639 --> 00:55:59,639
lot of people were just petrified of him, and he

1002
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,440
actually even had a situation where Jimmy had tried to

1003
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:08,079
cross the border into Toronto, Canada, and he got caught

1004
00:56:08,079 --> 00:56:11,320
with heroin. Well, Jimmy always said he thought that this

1005
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:15,039
guy planted that in his Jeffries' manager planted that into

1006
00:56:15,079 --> 00:56:18,280
his suitcase just to kind of prove a point. Two

1007
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,880
weeks before Jimmy died, he was kidnapped. Jimmy was kidnapped

1008
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,480
and tied up and put into a garage. Who came

1009
00:56:25,519 --> 00:56:30,400
to his rescue Mike Jeffries. So did Mike Jeffries come

1010
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,599
to his rescue or was he just trying? Was he

1011
00:56:33,679 --> 00:56:35,280
the one that set it up to happen to prove

1012
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,679
a point to Jimmy of what he was capable of doing.

1013
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 6: So all these people that killed themselves, I mean, was

1014
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,880
it just their conscience, I don't know, or maybe a curse.

1015
00:56:44,039 --> 00:56:47,039
Speaker 5: So here's the weird thing about Mike Jefferies. Of course

1016
00:56:47,039 --> 00:56:50,119
we said, now this could be two ways of looking

1017
00:56:50,119 --> 00:56:53,679
at it. He was an expert in explosives, but he

1018
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,559
was actually supposed to be coming back from Spain to

1019
00:56:56,599 --> 00:57:01,760
England for an inquest to find out some stuff. Well,

1020
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:06,719
the plane that he was on exploded. The only thing

1021
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:10,960
that was ever found of Mike Jefferies was his wristwatch?

1022
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:15,039
Oh my gosh, So did he blow the plane up?

1023
00:57:15,599 --> 00:57:18,280
Was he even on the plane? Did he blow the

1024
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,639
plane up and have his wrist watch there? Just so

1025
00:57:20,639 --> 00:57:27,199
they were who knows, dang man. So some strange stuff there.

1026
00:57:27,239 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 6: So that's a lot to go through too.

1027
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 5: It makes you definitely realize that there may be been

1028
00:57:34,119 --> 00:57:35,199
more than the eye.

1029
00:57:35,599 --> 00:57:37,079
Speaker 6: Wow, it's so crazy.

1030
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:42,719
Speaker 5: Ashley, Are you a Hendricks fan? A little before my time?

1031
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,760
But yeah, I mean I like it. How are you

1032
00:57:46,239 --> 00:57:49,280
thirty one? Okay, it's not that far before.

1033
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 6: A little bit?

1034
00:57:52,119 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, this was this is what I think

1035
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,760
is the coolest story tonight. We're gonna talk about the

1036
00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:59,880
Almond Brothers. Well, if you don't know Hendricks, I'm sure you.

1037
00:58:00,079 --> 00:58:01,559
I don't know the Almend brothers. Here to do you?

1038
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 6: Lord sport rem Man.

1039
00:58:07,599 --> 00:58:11,199
Speaker 5: Okay, this is not America's got talent. This is hillbilly

1040
00:58:11,239 --> 00:58:12,400
horror story. So let's move on.

1041
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 6: I'm trying to help her out.

1042
00:58:14,039 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 5: Do you know any of the song besides that?

1043
00:58:16,039 --> 00:58:17,199
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1044
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 5: Which one?

1045
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:18,039
Speaker 1: One?

1046
00:58:18,079 --> 00:58:19,719
Speaker 6: Can't do it because now I've got that song of

1047
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:20,159
a brain?

1048
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 5: Tell how about Midnight Rider that we actually put in

1049
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:29,960
the beginning of the show about the whipping Postalon.

1050
00:58:30,719 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 6: No, I don't know that one. I don't know. I

1051
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:36,920
mean I probably would hitching Postalon. Yeah, I'm not going.

1052
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,039
Speaker 5: To hear it from me, all right. So this is

1053
00:58:39,079 --> 00:58:41,000
all the Almond brothers, and I think this is one

1054
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:45,400
of the coolest stories ever. Dwayne Almond, he's the guitarist

1055
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:50,280
for the band. October twenty ninth, nineteen seventy he oded

1056
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:55,800
on opium, massive dose of opium, and this was after

1057
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,119
a show in Nashville, so they rushed him to the hospital.

1058
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,400
The doctor comes out of an hour later and says,

1059
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,239
he's not gonna make it. This is beyond what we

1060
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:08,960
got any help doing. Now, Barry Oakley, who's a great

1061
00:59:09,039 --> 00:59:11,239
friend of his, on the basis, he runs out to

1062
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:15,000
the parking lot. Several people see this, drops to his knees,

1063
00:59:15,119 --> 00:59:19,119
and he starts begging to God loudly. Everybody's hearing him.

1064
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,880
He's like, Lord, just please give him one more year.

1065
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,840
It go back inside. Twenty thirty minutes later, the doctor

1066
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:32,400
comes out and says, I can't explain this, but I

1067
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,679
think he's gonna make it now. I think he's gonna

1068
00:59:34,679 --> 00:59:39,599
make a full recovery. Yay, God, Yeah, we'll see exactly

1069
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,800
one year to the day, Duayne Aumon was killed when

1070
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,840
his motorcycle ran into the back of a truck. Oh jeez,

1071
00:59:47,559 --> 00:59:51,400
he hit it so hard. I can't that the motorcycle

1072
00:59:51,519 --> 00:59:54,639
flew up in the air, landed back on top of him.

1073
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 6: Oh my god.

1074
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 5: And he had so many internal injuries it was. He

1075
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,400
died at the hospital, had nostot at all of making it.

1076
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:06,360
So Barry Oakley goes out to the parking lot begs

1077
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,320
God to give him one year, and exactly one year later,

1078
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,039
he's killed in a motorcycle accident. Oh, how do you

1079
01:00:12,159 --> 01:00:16,000
just think about that? So that's what just happened. Now.

1080
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,760
Barry Oakley, who went out and did the praying, exactly

1081
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:23,360
one year and an unlucky thirteen days later from that,

1082
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:28,239
died in a motorcycle accident when he was hit by

1083
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:35,800
a bus about two blocks from where Dwayne Almond's accident happened.

1084
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:37,599
Oh my goodness, on the same street.

1085
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 6: That's so crazy now.

1086
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 5: The thing that's I think really kind of ties all

1087
01:00:45,039 --> 01:00:50,960
this together. Besides that is the number twenty four. Dwayne

1088
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,840
Almond when he died was twenty four years old. Barry

1089
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:57,519
Oakley when he died was twenty four years old, the

1090
01:00:57,639 --> 01:01:00,760
gentleman in a bus that hit Barry Oakley four years old,

1091
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,400
and a gentleman that was driving the truck that killed

1092
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:05,519
Dwayne Almond twenty four years old.

1093
01:01:05,679 --> 01:01:06,519
Speaker 6: They had got it.

1094
01:01:08,679 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, the number, the number twenty four was not good.

1095
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,519
Some people think it's because of the Robert Johnson curse.

1096
01:01:16,639 --> 01:01:19,280
You remember Robert Johnson he and sold to the Devil

1097
01:01:19,679 --> 01:01:22,880
at the Gross Roads, and he claims that the devil

1098
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:26,559
tity to play the guitar in the cemeteries. Well, the

1099
01:01:26,599 --> 01:01:30,119
Almond brothers really were big fans of Johnson, and they

1100
01:01:30,199 --> 01:01:33,880
used to go to rose Hills Cemetery in Georgia, and

1101
01:01:34,159 --> 01:01:37,280
that's where they would practice and play. They would they

1102
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:40,360
would hang out at the cemetery because of the Robert

1103
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,719
Johnson deal, so they would go there and several of

1104
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:48,719
their songs were actually written in Rose Hill Cemetery. And

1105
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,239
we both know that Robert Johnson supposedly sold and sold

1106
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:54,000
to the devil, so who knows if that's got a

1107
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:57,920
connection to it. Now, Dwayne and Barry actually have one

1108
01:01:58,039 --> 01:02:02,199
more final connection. Even though Dwayne died a year and

1109
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:06,599
thirteen days earlier than Barry, they were actually buried at

1110
01:02:06,679 --> 01:02:08,760
rose Hill Cemetery on the same day.

1111
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:11,079
Speaker 6: How's that happen?

1112
01:02:11,199 --> 01:02:15,519
Speaker 5: Well, because Dwayne, it's a kind of a screwed up

1113
01:02:15,599 --> 01:02:17,639
kind of story. Dwayne had a girl on the back

1114
01:02:17,639 --> 01:02:20,280
of his motorcycle when he got killed. She said she

1115
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,880
was his wife. She wasn't his wife. Dwayne already had

1116
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:27,079
a wife. His girl was just a girlfriend. They ain't

1117
01:02:27,079 --> 01:02:29,360
had a wife, and he had a daughter, and there

1118
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:32,400
was a kind of a fight as to what to

1119
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:36,840
do with him. Who got this? Who got that? Yeah,

1120
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:40,960
it drug on for over a year before they were

1121
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,320
able to actually lay him to rest, And when they

1122
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,800
were able to do it, they led him to rest

1123
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:47,360
the same day that Barry Oakley was.

1124
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:48,079
Speaker 6: That's gross.

1125
01:02:48,119 --> 01:02:51,039
Speaker 5: At rose Hill Cemetery where they had practiced.

1126
01:02:51,079 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 6: These Well, I mean, that's kind of nice that they

1127
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:55,880
did that, But I mean, a whole year.

1128
01:02:55,719 --> 01:02:58,679
Speaker 5: They couldn't mean, I mean, they couldn't decide what to

1129
01:02:58,679 --> 01:03:00,320
do with the body. Want I'm one at one thing, one,

1130
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:03,000
I'm one to the other. And you had those kind

1131
01:03:03,039 --> 01:03:04,960
of fights between between a mother and the daughter.

1132
01:03:05,079 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 6: See that's so crazy, and I don't understand for life.

1133
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:11,840
I mean, why people walk like that, especially somebody's death.

1134
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,079
But It is kind of cool though that they got

1135
01:03:14,079 --> 01:03:16,119
buried the same day at the same cemetery. That's kind

1136
01:03:16,119 --> 01:03:16,400
of cool.

1137
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 5: There's a lot of connections between them too, so they

1138
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:22,519
were connected during life and they're connected after life.

1139
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:28,719
Speaker 7: Like, hey, I know you right, I'm sure that's what

1140
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:29,000
he did.

1141
01:03:30,559 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 5: So anyways, that's the story that we got. So it's

1142
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:36,320
really we had three creepy little rock and roll stories too,

1143
01:03:37,119 --> 01:03:40,599
and then obviously we had MIA's cool story. Yeah, and

1144
01:03:40,639 --> 01:03:43,480
then stole cemetery. So I think it was a pretty

1145
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,599
pretty packed show. Ashley got to learn some stuff. Did

1146
01:03:46,639 --> 01:03:47,440
you learn some stuff?

1147
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 3: I did?

1148
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 6: It's so nice to have you here, Ashley. And you know,

1149
01:03:51,639 --> 01:03:53,800
my gosh, when you get your podcast started, you're going

1150
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:55,679
to do a great job. And you know, it's just

1151
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,400
like where you have to learn as you go and

1152
01:03:58,400 --> 01:03:59,440
and it'll be wonderful.

1153
01:04:00,559 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 5: I've got great teachers. Oh well, thank you, and if

1154
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:05,800
you need help with with us, we'll help you too.

1155
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:11,440
But hey, guys, thank you so much. We appreciate it

1156
01:04:11,519 --> 01:04:14,440
and we look forward to seeing you next week. Have

1157
01:04:14,519 --> 01:04:16,639
no idea, well I kind of know what next week's goes.

1158
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:18,320
I know we're gonna have the guys on from Don't

1159
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:21,719
Break the Oaths podcast. They had horrible sound for a

1160
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:23,480
long time and they've got it fixed, and I kid

1161
01:04:23,599 --> 01:04:26,440
him about it. Interviewed to Lee earlier today, and he's

1162
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:28,800
actually told us some stories, one of which is in

1163
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,360
Kentucky about an hour away from us, and I had

1164
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,119
no clue. I'd never heard of it. It took somebody

1165
01:04:33,119 --> 01:04:34,960
four thousand miles away to tell me about it. Something

1166
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:40,840
in my backyard. Yeah, And you know, so they came

1167
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,079
out of a cool interview with them and some cool

1168
01:04:43,079 --> 01:04:45,800
stories that they're sharing from all the way across the pond,

1169
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,679
and we love them guys, And like I said, I

1170
01:04:48,719 --> 01:04:50,559
want you to give them a chance now because they've

1171
01:04:50,639 --> 01:04:53,719
upgraded all their equipment and the show sounds fantastic now.

1172
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,480
So if you listen to them before and was deterred

1173
01:04:56,519 --> 01:04:58,840
a little bit by the sound, give them another chance.

1174
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:00,039
I think you'll be excited about it.

1175
01:05:00,119 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 6: And we'd also like your feedback about how our new

1176
01:05:02,559 --> 01:05:03,599
stuff sounds as well.

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Speaker 5: So yep, you guys have pitched in and helped us

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get better equipment so good. You're probably hearing Ninja snorton

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in the background as well.

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Speaker 6: It is like big time snorton, but We.

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Speaker 5: Love you guys, and we'll see you soon.

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Speaker 6: Love you guys.