WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:10.240 It's n side with I w BSS radio. Stop stop 2 00:00:09.599 --> 00:00:24.399 stop stop it stop it stop stop stop stop stop 3 00:00:29.039 --> 00:00:36.799 stop stop. That is from it ends with us. Uh 4 00:00:37.159 --> 00:00:41.759 what a film? What a movie with Blake Lively and 5 00:00:43.640 --> 00:00:50.439 Justin Baldini and it's this whole situation is so disturbing 6 00:00:52.119 --> 00:00:56.520 because as far as a film goes, which compared to 7 00:00:56.560 --> 00:00:59.079 the to the topic at hand here that you know, 8 00:00:59.200 --> 00:01:02.479 the film is is secondary. Right now, I think it's 9 00:01:02.479 --> 00:01:05.719 a terrific film. I think it's well done. I think 10 00:01:05.719 --> 00:01:09.439 it's realistic. I think it has a great message at 11 00:01:09.439 --> 00:01:14.640 the end. But with what has transpired and the ugliness 12 00:01:14.799 --> 00:01:18.560 that has been revealed in this is just so disturbing. 13 00:01:18.599 --> 00:01:21.400 It's not surprising, but it's still disturbing. And joining me 14 00:01:21.519 --> 00:01:24.680 right now is our good friend from New York City 15 00:01:24.719 --> 00:01:26.840 and CBS entertainment reporter Cooper, Lawrence Cooper. 16 00:01:26.840 --> 00:01:28.599 Thanks for joining us. 17 00:01:28.599 --> 00:01:30.799 Of course, I'm always here for you, you know, especially when 18 00:01:30.799 --> 00:01:32.280 you talking about my favorite topics. 19 00:01:32.599 --> 00:01:35.799 Well, I know, and I am going to get to this, 20 00:01:35.879 --> 00:01:37.840 but here's a big market Seese. Cooper was on the 21 00:01:37.879 --> 00:01:42.640 set of this film, which we will get to. Can 22 00:01:42.680 --> 00:01:45.640 you just update us right now as best you can 23 00:01:46.079 --> 00:01:49.280 on where things stand because I think it's been getting 24 00:01:49.280 --> 00:01:52.239 a little confusing on who started, what went, and where. 25 00:01:53.319 --> 00:01:56.040 Okay, I will give you the very quick timeline to 26 00:01:56.120 --> 00:02:01.439 understand what happened on set. Justin Beldoni and his I 27 00:02:01.480 --> 00:02:06.599 guess directing partner is a production partner. Producing partner, Thank 28 00:02:06.640 --> 00:02:10.439 you very much, were inappropriate with Blake Lively. She felt 29 00:02:10.520 --> 00:02:14.520 very uncomfortable, and she had asked them for two things. 30 00:02:14.560 --> 00:02:18.080 She asked for independent producers so that she didn't have 31 00:02:18.080 --> 00:02:20.319 to deal with them directly, and she asked for an 32 00:02:20.360 --> 00:02:23.000 intimacy coach because she felt that some of the things 33 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:28.319 that he was doing on set were deliberately misogynistic and 34 00:02:28.400 --> 00:02:33.840 deliberately targeting her. She felt she felt unsafe on that set, 35 00:02:34.280 --> 00:02:37.639 so she asked on set privately. She didn't make news 36 00:02:37.759 --> 00:02:40.800 about it, she didn't call a publicist. She literally just 37 00:02:41.319 --> 00:02:43.639 said it to them and that was that. Then the 38 00:02:43.680 --> 00:02:47.560 movie came out and it wasn't really getting great reviews, 39 00:02:47.639 --> 00:02:51.319 and because they had a tumultuous relationship on set, they 40 00:02:51.360 --> 00:02:53.680 didn't really do a lot of press together, and he 41 00:02:53.719 --> 00:02:57.599 felt that somehow she was sabotaging the film, and he 42 00:02:57.759 --> 00:03:05.680 claims that she was basically tanking the film. He then 43 00:03:05.960 --> 00:03:09.360 proactively said, well, she's going to ruin her reputation. He 44 00:03:09.479 --> 00:03:12.759 hired his own PR firm to basically go after her, 45 00:03:12.840 --> 00:03:15.479 and these texts that were revealed to New York Times 46 00:03:15.560 --> 00:03:18.680 basically said it was his PR from talking to each 47 00:03:18.680 --> 00:03:22.080 other saying that we're going to bury Blake Lively. So 48 00:03:22.199 --> 00:03:24.759 as a result, she wasn't gonna saything this entire time, 49 00:03:24.800 --> 00:03:27.039 but now that this came out, then she realized she 50 00:03:27.120 --> 00:03:31.319 had to sue him, so she did. Now he's countersued 51 00:03:31.879 --> 00:03:34.159 for four hundred million dollars, which I don't know how 52 00:03:34.199 --> 00:03:36.400 he thinks he's ever going to be worth that, but fine, 53 00:03:36.439 --> 00:03:39.599 that's the number he chose. So he's countersuing Blake Lively, 54 00:03:39.680 --> 00:03:43.479 Ryan Reynolds and Leslie Sloane, the person who is in 55 00:03:43.599 --> 00:03:47.159 charge of their PR. And that's where we're at right now. 56 00:03:47.199 --> 00:03:50.360 Well, thank you for setting that straight, because I've had 57 00:03:50.400 --> 00:03:54.400 discussions with people, and as I remember it, he started 58 00:03:54.439 --> 00:03:58.560 this publicly. Now that's not to say she didn't have 59 00:03:58.680 --> 00:04:00.919 cause to come out and say so, because I believe 60 00:04:01.000 --> 00:04:04.479 she did. Because Blake Lively has been in this business 61 00:04:05.000 --> 00:04:09.360 for a long time. My daughter, a teenager, has discovered 62 00:04:09.400 --> 00:04:14.759 gossip Girl on Netflix. It's on all the time. So 63 00:04:14.919 --> 00:04:19.600 Blake Lively is a veteran actor, she knows the deal. 64 00:04:20.360 --> 00:04:23.639 She has been on sets, she has seen a lot, 65 00:04:23.759 --> 00:04:29.519 She's experienced a lot, and automatically I thought, okay, when 66 00:04:29.600 --> 00:04:33.680 she came out to defend herself, I said, there's something 67 00:04:33.720 --> 00:04:36.160 got to be going on because she has never done this. 68 00:04:36.800 --> 00:04:37.959 There's no history of. 69 00:04:38.519 --> 00:04:40.639 He drew first blood. You're correct, that's. 70 00:04:40.439 --> 00:04:42.920 Right, which to me, which when you say, look, you 71 00:04:43.000 --> 00:04:46.040 drew first like, I go, the guy was paranoid. So 72 00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:49.480 I feel as I analyze this, Folks, again, I'm not 73 00:04:49.519 --> 00:04:52.680 playing journalists here, I'm playing talk show hosts. I analyzed 74 00:04:52.720 --> 00:04:55.800 this is he knew he did something wrong. He knew 75 00:04:55.839 --> 00:04:58.480 he did something wrong, so he tried to get ahead 76 00:04:58.519 --> 00:05:00.560 of it and it came back to bite him. 77 00:05:00.480 --> 00:05:00.959 In the ass. 78 00:05:02.000 --> 00:05:03.519 Right, That's exactly what happened. 79 00:05:04.759 --> 00:05:08.759 Crazy Right now, let's talk about the things that happened 80 00:05:08.800 --> 00:05:11.360 on set and see if there's any I'm going to 81 00:05:11.360 --> 00:05:14.800 play devil's advocate, Folks. I believe Blake Lively. I'm on 82 00:05:14.839 --> 00:05:18.839 her side. I'm doing this to make an argument. The 83 00:05:19.000 --> 00:05:21.120 argument that he says he was trying to create an 84 00:05:21.120 --> 00:05:24.600 atmosphere for the condition of the film, method acting and 85 00:05:24.639 --> 00:05:27.879 so forth. I mean showing her pornography on his phone 86 00:05:28.480 --> 00:05:32.439 that has no business being on a set, but making 87 00:05:32.439 --> 00:05:37.360 her uncomfortable, creating tension. Is there any substance to that. 88 00:05:39.720 --> 00:05:43.040 I'm going to tell you one yes, because I was 89 00:05:43.120 --> 00:05:45.839 on set and I was there for one of the 90 00:05:45.879 --> 00:05:49.839 scenes where he kept trying to kiss her, but like, 91 00:05:50.680 --> 00:05:53.360 really just go for it at a at a point 92 00:05:53.399 --> 00:05:55.439 in the film that it would not really have made sense, 93 00:05:55.920 --> 00:05:58.360 and you can see how uncomfortable she was. In fact, 94 00:05:59.160 --> 00:06:01.560 while I was standing there on set, I was watching her, 95 00:06:01.639 --> 00:06:04.759 and I was thinking, you know, usually when two actors 96 00:06:04.759 --> 00:06:08.360 are working together, they kind of, you know, back and forth, 97 00:06:08.560 --> 00:06:11.240 chat figure something out. I know he was also the director, 98 00:06:11.360 --> 00:06:14.879 so even more reason why they would chat. They had 99 00:06:14.920 --> 00:06:16.839 nothing to do with each other. She was on her 100 00:06:16.879 --> 00:06:19.360 phone talking to her I'm going to say, kids, I 101 00:06:19.399 --> 00:06:22.000 was talking to people, maybe Taylor Swift, I don't know 102 00:06:22.000 --> 00:06:24.279 who she was talking to, but she was on her phone. 103 00:06:24.600 --> 00:06:27.279 And as soon as they said action, she handed her 104 00:06:27.319 --> 00:06:29.600 phone to an assistant and then got on set and 105 00:06:29.639 --> 00:06:32.879 then did her thing. And you can see she was 106 00:06:33.040 --> 00:06:37.480 very uncomfortable, and I was thinking, well, the story that 107 00:06:37.560 --> 00:06:40.279 we had been told was that this film was supposed 108 00:06:40.319 --> 00:06:43.879 to be done and in the can before the actor strike, 109 00:06:44.680 --> 00:06:48.920 but because the strike happened, it delayed their shooting. So 110 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:53.000 now they're shooting months later. They're getting it done. And 111 00:06:53.040 --> 00:06:54.879 she wanted to be with Ryan, she wanted to be 112 00:06:54.959 --> 00:06:56.560 with her kids. She didn't want to be on set. 113 00:06:56.920 --> 00:06:59.240 Maybe that's why, Maybe that's why this whole thing is 114 00:06:59.279 --> 00:07:01.759 weird and uncomfortab. Maybe she just didn't really want to 115 00:07:01.759 --> 00:07:03.959 work right now, wants to be with her kids. And 116 00:07:04.040 --> 00:07:06.519 I thought it was odd. But then there was the 117 00:07:06.560 --> 00:07:10.000 scene where he was trying to kiss her, and you 118 00:07:10.040 --> 00:07:15.079 can see as people, not as actors. There was something 119 00:07:15.160 --> 00:07:19.240 going on that just looked she looked uncomfortable, and I 120 00:07:19.759 --> 00:07:21.720 had no idea. Thought, maybe they don't get who knows. 121 00:07:21.759 --> 00:07:23.959 I can speculate all I want to. I did not 122 00:07:24.040 --> 00:07:26.040 know what was happening, but I just knew something odd 123 00:07:26.120 --> 00:07:30.199 was happening. And I remember going home and telling my boyfriend, like, 124 00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:32.199 this was a weird day on set. It was not 125 00:07:32.240 --> 00:07:35.879 like a normal day I would normally have. And then 126 00:07:35.920 --> 00:07:38.120 the whole story came out. Oh, yes that's what we 127 00:07:38.120 --> 00:07:41.519 were seeing. Now it all makes sense. But you know actors, 128 00:07:41.959 --> 00:07:44.560 especially famous actors, when they are on set and there's 129 00:07:45.000 --> 00:07:47.439 all these people around them and they know they're being watched, 130 00:07:47.680 --> 00:07:51.360 they're on their best behavior. So if there is something off, 131 00:07:52.079 --> 00:07:55.040 it's very evident because they behave in a way that 132 00:07:55.160 --> 00:07:57.920 is definitely different. And that's what was going on that day. 133 00:07:57.920 --> 00:08:01.079 And now it makes perfect sense that at that point, 134 00:08:01.120 --> 00:08:03.519 it was towards the end of the shooting schedule, they 135 00:08:03.519 --> 00:08:06.839 were almost done, and when they got done with the scene, 136 00:08:07.480 --> 00:08:11.319 she turned him and said, can I go now, which 137 00:08:11.360 --> 00:08:14.360 I thought was very interesting. I'd never usually asked, oh, 138 00:08:14.399 --> 00:08:16.360 are we done? Okay, cool, we're cut, Okay, I see 139 00:08:16.399 --> 00:08:19.879 you later. It's never can we Can I go now? 140 00:08:21.199 --> 00:08:24.439 And I remember thinking, wow, that's that's very unusual. And 141 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:27.000 I don't know why she said that, because she was 142 00:08:27.240 --> 00:08:29.399 just so you know, she was lovely to everybody. She 143 00:08:29.560 --> 00:08:32.840 was so sweet and so kind, So I wasn't thinking, well, 144 00:08:32.879 --> 00:08:35.120 she's just you know, the B word, that's where it 145 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:38.759 must be. No, she was absolutely lovely, but with him, 146 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:42.360 she wasn't. And I didn't know whether it was part 147 00:08:42.399 --> 00:08:45.039 of the scene, if it was method acting, but now 148 00:08:45.080 --> 00:08:47.399 I know it was because he was making her uncomfortable. 149 00:08:47.600 --> 00:08:51.240 And he created a hostile work environment, and she was 150 00:08:51.360 --> 00:08:54.120 quiet about it. She didn't say anything to anybody. But 151 00:08:54.200 --> 00:08:57.639 you're right. Once the film was done and she went 152 00:08:57.679 --> 00:09:01.600 off off, you know, in her world and did Lady 153 00:09:01.600 --> 00:09:05.240 Deadpool had had more things to do beyond that. I 154 00:09:05.240 --> 00:09:06.960 think he tried to get ahead of it because he 155 00:09:07.039 --> 00:09:09.360 was afraid that she was going to tank him in Hollywood, 156 00:09:09.759 --> 00:09:11.799 and sure enough, you know, his agent dropped him. They 157 00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:15.480 have the same agent. If I was the agent, who 158 00:09:15.480 --> 00:09:17.960 would you keep Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds some guy 159 00:09:17.960 --> 00:09:18.840 that no one knows who he is. 160 00:09:18.960 --> 00:09:23.639 Yeah, it's not even close. But I remember the TV 161 00:09:23.720 --> 00:09:26.120 series Castle with Nathan Fillion, and. 162 00:09:26.080 --> 00:09:28.279 I forgot them more. Yeah, I forgot the way. 163 00:09:28.159 --> 00:09:30.919 I'd loved She was terrific actor, but I forgot the 164 00:09:30.919 --> 00:09:34.840 woman's name who played But they did not get along. 165 00:09:35.519 --> 00:09:39.279 They could not stand each other on set, but they 166 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:41.559 made it work on the show. 167 00:09:42.279 --> 00:09:44.240 So there are examples. 168 00:09:44.639 --> 00:09:46.399 Well, we could go back to All in the Family, 169 00:09:46.879 --> 00:09:49.000 you know, where Jean Stable did and Carol O'Connor did 170 00:09:49.039 --> 00:09:51.960 not get along, But it wasn't like this. 171 00:09:52.120 --> 00:09:54.200 They just didn't see eye to eye. 172 00:09:55.120 --> 00:09:58.720 So there are instances where you could be on the 173 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:00.639 set where the leading man in and the leading lady 174 00:10:00.720 --> 00:10:03.120 just don't get along, but when they say action, they 175 00:10:03.159 --> 00:10:03.799 do their job. 176 00:10:04.279 --> 00:10:04.480 Right. 177 00:10:04.919 --> 00:10:06.879 You and I could sit here and spend an hour 178 00:10:06.960 --> 00:10:10.600 coming up with examples of people who famously hated each other, 179 00:10:10.639 --> 00:10:14.919 but yet we're professional and did their jobs, and as viewers, 180 00:10:14.919 --> 00:10:17.279 we would never know that there was no relationship there. 181 00:10:17.679 --> 00:10:21.399 This is different. This is a hostile work environment that 182 00:10:21.480 --> 00:10:25.279 he created and really didn't do anything to make it 183 00:10:25.320 --> 00:10:29.080 okay for her because the fact that even towards the 184 00:10:29.279 --> 00:10:33.200 end of the shooting schedule that she was still feeling 185 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:36.639 uncomfortable like that. It just I have to tell you 186 00:10:36.679 --> 00:10:39.799 my feeling about him on set. Somebody else said to 187 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:42.960 me while we were there, He's really a bully, isn't he? 188 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:45.600 And I hadn't observed him long enough. But this is 189 00:10:45.600 --> 00:10:48.879 somebody that had been on set longer than I had. 190 00:10:48.879 --> 00:10:50.440 They were there for a couple of weeks, and they 191 00:10:50.480 --> 00:10:53.399 said he's a bully is the word they used. So 192 00:10:53.440 --> 00:10:54.879 I just took their word for I was like, well, 193 00:10:54.879 --> 00:10:57.320 maybe that's why you left. I had no idea. But 194 00:10:57.360 --> 00:10:59.759 now that the story has unfolded, you know, it's kind 195 00:10:59.759 --> 00:11:01.720 of the end of usual suspects where you're like, what's 196 00:11:01.759 --> 00:11:04.120 going on? Then suddenly you look around the room and go, 197 00:11:04.200 --> 00:11:07.080 oh oh oh, it all makes. 198 00:11:06.919 --> 00:11:09.679 Sense right right, and you drop them up where we're 199 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:11.679 at and you drop them all geting crashes on the floor, 200 00:11:11.679 --> 00:11:13.879 and you go. Of course, Cooper Lawrence is our guest 201 00:11:13.879 --> 00:11:16.679 CBS Entertainment reporter. We got a lot more to uncovered 202 00:11:16.799 --> 00:11:20.600 regarding it ends with us right here on WBC's Nightside. 203 00:11:20.679 --> 00:11:24.399 Back after this, now back to Dan ray Mine from 204 00:11:24.399 --> 00:11:28.480 the Window World night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio. 205 00:11:29.759 --> 00:11:38.120 Man stop, please stop, please stop stop. 206 00:11:38.240 --> 00:11:41.559 Look at me, look at me, look at me, look. 207 00:11:43.159 --> 00:11:47.919 You look at me, Look at I love you baby, 208 00:11:47.960 --> 00:11:54.559 look at me, please please. 209 00:12:00.759 --> 00:12:03.080 That is from this is us. The audio is creepier 210 00:12:03.120 --> 00:12:03.679 than the video. 211 00:12:04.519 --> 00:12:05.799 Yeah, it really is it really. 212 00:12:05.840 --> 00:12:07.840 I just was. I'm listening to this, I go, it's 213 00:12:07.919 --> 00:12:12.639 worse a horror film, Oh my god, which I mean, 214 00:12:12.679 --> 00:12:14.240 unfortunately for Blake Lively it was. 215 00:12:15.159 --> 00:12:19.399 But always we're talking about the situation between Blake Lively 216 00:12:19.480 --> 00:12:22.960 and jessin Boldona here when Cooper Lawrence joining a CBS 217 00:12:23.080 --> 00:12:25.759 Entertainment reporter, and I mean he's just a think you know, 218 00:12:25.799 --> 00:12:28.879 the guys that think, and but when you listen to 219 00:12:28.960 --> 00:12:34.679 that or you watch that scene. Her acting ability to 220 00:12:34.799 --> 00:12:39.159 put all of this aside and deliver that performance is amazing. 221 00:12:40.080 --> 00:12:42.679 She's a professional, She's doing her job. I mean, people 222 00:12:42.720 --> 00:12:44.679 don't know that. You know, you and I really we 223 00:12:44.720 --> 00:12:47.919 have a long history of fighting and suiting. But look 224 00:12:47.919 --> 00:12:48.320 at us. 225 00:12:48.440 --> 00:12:50.919 You never know, right yeah, yeah, sure, yeah, you kick 226 00:12:51.000 --> 00:12:51.360 my ass. 227 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:54.080 No, but that's true. No, no, no, but I mean 228 00:12:54.279 --> 00:12:55.879 to just go that deep and then get it done. 229 00:12:55.919 --> 00:12:57.679 And then they go cut and she goes jerk and 230 00:12:58.039 --> 00:13:00.799 you know, leaves. But this is what the sick part 231 00:13:00.840 --> 00:13:04.159 of this as we take a look at this Baldona character. 232 00:13:05.639 --> 00:13:08.559 He writes a movie or co wrote a movie and 233 00:13:08.720 --> 00:13:18.320 directs a movie about domestic violence, sexual assault, and then 234 00:13:18.360 --> 00:13:20.519 he commits it while he's making it. 235 00:13:21.679 --> 00:13:22.840 How sick is that? 236 00:13:24.519 --> 00:13:29.279 Yeah? And the sickest part about it is that the 237 00:13:29.320 --> 00:13:33.080 script had a lot of problems. So he had asked 238 00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:36.200 Ryan Reynolds, who was a producer on the film, to 239 00:13:36.320 --> 00:13:40.000 doctor the script. And all these text messages went back 240 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:45.159 and forth where Valdoni comes over and he's with Blake 241 00:13:45.200 --> 00:13:48.080 Lively and Ryan Reynolds and Kayla Swift happened to have 242 00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:51.279 been there and they were just sort of going over 243 00:13:51.320 --> 00:13:54.600 the script and discussing it together, and he sends this message, 244 00:13:54.639 --> 00:13:57.399 Oh what that was just such a wonderful session. You guys, 245 00:13:57.440 --> 00:14:00.200 are you really punched up the script? It's so perfect now. 246 00:14:00.879 --> 00:14:04.320 And now he claims that he felt pressured to say 247 00:14:04.360 --> 00:14:08.279 that because of their star power, which doesn't make any 248 00:14:08.279 --> 00:14:10.200 sense because if you read the text, they come across 249 00:14:10.320 --> 00:14:13.919 very genuine like in retrospect, you could say anything depending 250 00:14:13.960 --> 00:14:16.279 on how you feel about somebody. But in the moment, 251 00:14:16.360 --> 00:14:19.440 he was obviously very grateful because the script did have problems. 252 00:14:19.600 --> 00:14:21.320 You know, it's based on a book, and you should 253 00:14:21.320 --> 00:14:23.799 definitely read the book because it's better than the movie 254 00:14:23.799 --> 00:14:29.600 in my opinion. But it's interesting that, you know, they 255 00:14:29.600 --> 00:14:32.519 gave him a lot of creative control. And I think 256 00:14:32.879 --> 00:14:37.200 sometimes in Hollywood. Here's an example of how the level 257 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:40.600 of narcissism is just off the charts in Hollywood. So 258 00:14:40.799 --> 00:14:42.960 justin Baldoni, the news comes out today that he is 259 00:14:43.039 --> 00:14:46.720 counter sewing her for four hundred million dollars. I would, 260 00:14:46.799 --> 00:14:49.120 if I were him, put that out there and then 261 00:14:49.240 --> 00:14:51.720 go home and just kind of hide from the paparazzi 262 00:14:51.759 --> 00:14:55.039 and just give it a minute. Not him he went to. 263 00:14:55.279 --> 00:14:58.519 He was at LAX with his family because he knows 264 00:14:58.559 --> 00:15:01.200 that's what the paparazzis are when you when you're very famous, 265 00:15:01.200 --> 00:15:04.080 when you're that famous, you don't go to the IVY, 266 00:15:04.399 --> 00:15:07.879 you don't go to LAX. You know how to avoid DMZ. 267 00:15:08.679 --> 00:15:11.480 But not him. He couldn't wait to get on TMZ 268 00:15:12.039 --> 00:15:15.080 and he didn't say no comment. He was on camera 269 00:15:15.159 --> 00:15:17.240 telling him all about how you know he's going to 270 00:15:17.320 --> 00:15:19.960 survive this because of his family and they have such faith, 271 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:24.080 they have faith. It just all comes across like a play. 272 00:15:24.519 --> 00:15:26.879 It doesn't come across genuine and I don't know that. 273 00:15:27.240 --> 00:15:31.320 I think sometimes celebrity's narcissism gets in the way of reality. 274 00:15:31.440 --> 00:15:33.559 And I think, to me that was a mistake. 275 00:15:34.440 --> 00:15:37.120 There's no doubt it does. But let's face it. 276 00:15:37.159 --> 00:15:41.519 I mean, she's a star, and Blake Lively and Ryan 277 00:15:41.519 --> 00:15:45.639 Reynolds have an incredible body of work and they're much 278 00:15:45.759 --> 00:15:49.200 larger in the business than him. But where his sickness, 279 00:15:49.240 --> 00:15:52.679 and I do believe is sick has cost him is 280 00:15:52.720 --> 00:15:57.080 if he simply directed the film, was a professional and 281 00:15:57.159 --> 00:16:00.279 put it out there. The film made three hundred fifty 282 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:02.120 one million dollars at the box office. 283 00:16:02.360 --> 00:16:02.639 Now. 284 00:16:02.840 --> 00:16:06.399 I don't know how much of that is attributed to 285 00:16:06.440 --> 00:16:07.399 the controversy. 286 00:16:08.279 --> 00:16:10.759 I'm not sure. What do you think. 287 00:16:12.159 --> 00:16:15.279 I think a lot of it because the film, I think, 288 00:16:15.320 --> 00:16:17.679 you know, it did really well. It's on Netflix now, 289 00:16:17.679 --> 00:16:20.480 it's doing better on Netflix than it did you know, 290 00:16:20.519 --> 00:16:23.679 anywhere else. Yeah, I think people are very interested to 291 00:16:23.759 --> 00:16:27.279 see the chemistry between them. Can you tell a lot 292 00:16:27.320 --> 00:16:29.039 of people did read the book and they were kind 293 00:16:29.039 --> 00:16:31.200 of interested in seeing the book made into a movie. 294 00:16:32.000 --> 00:16:34.519 But this has been going on since they started filming. 295 00:16:34.840 --> 00:16:37.600 You know. Oh, they were seen on the street kissing. 296 00:16:37.720 --> 00:16:40.519 They're filming the movie. Ah, this is so exciting. So 297 00:16:40.840 --> 00:16:44.639 I think we've been following this story from the very beginning. 298 00:16:45.600 --> 00:16:47.360 So whether the movie is good or not is kind 299 00:16:47.399 --> 00:16:48.120 of irrelevant. 300 00:16:48.200 --> 00:16:51.399 It's well, if it doesn't happen, If this doesn't happen, 301 00:16:51.440 --> 00:16:53.360 and the movie comes out, what do you think it does. 302 00:16:55.919 --> 00:16:57.399 If what doesn't happen, I mean. 303 00:16:57.279 --> 00:16:59.840 If this controversy doesn't happen, If Balboni is a gentleman, 304 00:17:00.000 --> 00:17:03.039 if they get along, everybody's great, they put out the movie, 305 00:17:03.480 --> 00:17:05.720 what happens to the movie. How much money does it make? 306 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:08.559 Is it up for awards or does it simply just 307 00:17:08.599 --> 00:17:09.920 go away. 308 00:17:10.079 --> 00:17:12.200 Yeah, I think it would have bombed. I think it 309 00:17:12.200 --> 00:17:15.839 would have absolutely bombed, just because nobody really knows who 310 00:17:15.880 --> 00:17:18.440 he is. I mean, she has her following, what is that? Okay? 311 00:17:18.880 --> 00:17:20.519 But I think you're right. I think a lot of 312 00:17:20.519 --> 00:17:23.599 the success of the movie now is post all of 313 00:17:23.640 --> 00:17:26.880 this information. And you know, I'm so cynical that there's 314 00:17:26.880 --> 00:17:28.319 a side of me. I was like, was this the 315 00:17:28.480 --> 00:17:32.240 plan all along? Do they secretly love each other? And 316 00:17:32.519 --> 00:17:34.279 this is the whole plan to get us to watch 317 00:17:34.319 --> 00:17:36.519 this movie? Like that's how cynical I've become. 318 00:17:37.440 --> 00:17:38.440 I said the same thing. 319 00:17:40.519 --> 00:17:43.599 Of course, I go, is this a pr gimmick? I mean, 320 00:17:43.759 --> 00:17:47.640 is he taking a bullet here to generate some buzz? Now? 321 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:51.160 I if you were to rate the movie in a 322 00:17:51.200 --> 00:17:52.680 scale of one to ten, what would. 323 00:17:52.519 --> 00:17:52.960 You give it? 324 00:17:55.480 --> 00:18:00.039 I mean, I thought she was terrific. I think the 325 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:02.480 script had some problems, maybe a six. 326 00:18:03.160 --> 00:18:06.359 See, I liked it. I liked it. I was going 327 00:18:06.440 --> 00:18:09.160 to give it an eight. I liked it. 328 00:18:09.359 --> 00:18:12.720 I liked the movie like because I thought, first of all, 329 00:18:12.720 --> 00:18:13.839 it's a terrific message. 330 00:18:14.279 --> 00:18:19.880 Secondly, I thought there was I thought it was realistic. 331 00:18:19.720 --> 00:18:24.279 In that you know, we it's always very easy, especially 332 00:18:24.279 --> 00:18:28.720 for men you know or you know you talk about well, 333 00:18:28.759 --> 00:18:33.559 I mean it was just a doctor in Boston, you know, 334 00:18:33.880 --> 00:18:37.759 now two hundred cases of alleged sexual abuse, and we're like, god, 335 00:18:37.839 --> 00:18:39.039 why do people stick around? 336 00:18:39.039 --> 00:18:41.079 How come people don't speak up? How come people don't 337 00:18:41.279 --> 00:18:41.519 you know? 338 00:18:41.640 --> 00:18:44.359 And this movie illustrated how hard it is, you know, 339 00:18:44.440 --> 00:18:47.359 because you know where he comes across. 340 00:18:47.400 --> 00:18:50.640 He's very genuine. The guy has a history. 341 00:18:50.839 --> 00:18:54.279 He lost his brother as a result of his actions 342 00:18:54.279 --> 00:18:55.160 when he was younger. 343 00:18:55.599 --> 00:18:56.599 He has that guilt. 344 00:18:56.920 --> 00:18:59.599 He's a doctor, he's an emergency you know, he's trying 345 00:18:59.640 --> 00:19:01.960 to save patients. So you have this thing that, oh 346 00:19:02.039 --> 00:19:07.720 my god, this guy is saving lives, right, and he's brilliant, 347 00:19:09.599 --> 00:19:12.519 but he's haunted by his past. So at first you 348 00:19:12.559 --> 00:19:16.839 think he's a very lovable character, and that obviously changes 349 00:19:17.559 --> 00:19:20.559 when he has these outbursts and he commits and he 350 00:19:20.640 --> 00:19:22.400 hits her right where so. 351 00:19:22.319 --> 00:19:22.839 I thought it was. 352 00:19:23.079 --> 00:19:26.240 And she doesn't run away, She sticks around and she says, 353 00:19:26.279 --> 00:19:28.119 you know it was you know, he just got mad 354 00:19:28.200 --> 00:19:28.759 once and. 355 00:19:28.759 --> 00:19:31.119 She justifies it. So I thought it was very realistic. 356 00:19:31.720 --> 00:19:33.640 Then I'm giving him away the movie now, but you know, 357 00:19:33.680 --> 00:19:36.119 she's you know, because she has a baby in the 358 00:19:36.400 --> 00:19:37.720 marriage and she goes. 359 00:19:37.759 --> 00:19:38.759 You know, I stayed with. 360 00:19:38.720 --> 00:19:41.680 The baby he's out, which I thought was a very 361 00:19:41.759 --> 00:19:46.519 realistic ending. So I thought the movie was well done, 362 00:19:46.960 --> 00:19:50.480 to be honest with you, and that this guy, just 363 00:19:51.000 --> 00:19:53.839 if he had done nothing, I thought, and just been 364 00:19:53.880 --> 00:19:55.440 a normal human being, I. 365 00:19:55.359 --> 00:19:57.200 Thought it would have worked out for him. But I 366 00:19:57.200 --> 00:19:59.680 guess I'm in the minority. There, I am in the minority. 367 00:20:01.440 --> 00:20:03.920 Well, you know, you get people that are really big 368 00:20:04.079 --> 00:20:07.559 Colleen Hoover fans, She's the woman who wrote the book originally, 369 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:10.880 and they have such high expectations. But the problem is, 370 00:20:11.079 --> 00:20:13.559 you know, a book is long, and if you if 371 00:20:13.599 --> 00:20:15.599 you actually turned a book into a movie, the movie 372 00:20:15.640 --> 00:20:18.240 would be six hours long. No one's going to sit 373 00:20:18.279 --> 00:20:21.559 there for all that time. So you have to condense 374 00:20:21.559 --> 00:20:23.119 it and pick out the parts you think are going 375 00:20:23.119 --> 00:20:25.240 to tell the story in the best way. So I 376 00:20:25.240 --> 00:20:27.200 think there are these purists that are like, oh, I 377 00:20:27.240 --> 00:20:29.359 wasn't that seen in the movie, or I thought that 378 00:20:29.440 --> 00:20:32.279 was an important character. So I think a lot of 379 00:20:32.839 --> 00:20:36.680 you get those critics as well, who are looking for 380 00:20:36.720 --> 00:20:39.720 the same level of dialogue that was in the book. 381 00:20:40.720 --> 00:20:42.359 So yeah, I agree with you, though I think I 382 00:20:42.400 --> 00:20:44.960 think the story this looks the story was really well written. 383 00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:47.880 It's a it's a very interesting story, and listen well 384 00:20:47.920 --> 00:20:50.880 acted considering what we actually know about them right now, 385 00:20:50.960 --> 00:20:52.839 so right, I mean, yeah. 386 00:20:52.640 --> 00:20:54.680 And it was in Boston, and I like seeing Boston. 387 00:20:54.759 --> 00:20:56.920 See I like, you know, so I got sucked into it. 388 00:20:56.960 --> 00:20:58.480 I mean, I admit, you know, I got something to it. 389 00:20:58.519 --> 00:21:02.240 But I also think that books should be at least 390 00:21:02.319 --> 00:21:03.960 six episodes in a series. 391 00:21:05.240 --> 00:21:06.480 That's what I think. I think. 392 00:21:06.519 --> 00:21:08.359 I think trying to do a movie off a book, 393 00:21:08.759 --> 00:21:11.960 they change half the stuff anyways, half the time, the 394 00:21:12.039 --> 00:21:14.119 endings change. I mean, but for some reason, as a 395 00:21:14.559 --> 00:21:17.720 based on Ernest Hemingway's book, I mean, like, just show 396 00:21:17.759 --> 00:21:20.240 the movie and then if you have a great novel 397 00:21:20.279 --> 00:21:25.160 and a great book, you know, make it eight episodes 398 00:21:25.200 --> 00:21:27.920 if you will, just like, oh, what was the Nicole 399 00:21:28.000 --> 00:21:30.599 Kidman and Liev Schreiber on the on Martha's Vineyard. 400 00:21:30.839 --> 00:21:31.319 I don't know if you. 401 00:21:31.319 --> 00:21:32.519