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<v Speaker 1>It's seven oh six, Brian Thomas. You're wishing everyone to

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<v Speaker 1>happy Friday and welcoming to the fifty five theirse Morning

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<v Speaker 1>Show author Mandy Gunnisakara. She's got a great background to

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<v Speaker 1>write this book. We're gonna be talking about, y'all, Fire,

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<v Speaker 1>a Southern Midle's guide to Restoring Federalism, Draining the Swamp.

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<v Speaker 1>She has been a center of US and energy and

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<v Speaker 1>environmental policy for the last decade to a decade. A

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<v Speaker 1>veteran environmental attorney, energy strategist, and communicator, served under President

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump as the Chief of Staff at the US

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<v Speaker 1>Environmental Protection Agency. Currently a visiting fellow at the Heritage

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<v Speaker 1>Foundation Yay, and she is a resident of Oxford, mississipp

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<v Speaker 1>where she lives with her husband and children. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the Morning Show, Mandy Gunnis Sicara. It's a real pleasure

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<v Speaker 1>to have you on today.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, good morning, and it's a pleasure to be with you.

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<v Speaker 1>And getting to the point on the subtitle draining this swamp.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's a problem I have. We'll get into more details

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<v Speaker 1>on the book, and thank you so much for writing it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking, you know, and I'm a critics. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a critic of I don't believe that I'm exhaling us

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<v Speaker 1>into oblivion. I do not believe it was a problem

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<v Speaker 1>with carbon dioxide. Honestly, I know it's tree food. I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't bought into the religion, all right, So call me

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<v Speaker 1>old fashioned, but I always counter this argument that we're

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<v Speaker 1>killing the planet, which seems to serve as the basis

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<v Speaker 1>for almost every removal of freedom that exists in our

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<v Speaker 1>lives in this world, that the planet's temperature has ebbed

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<v Speaker 1>and flowed. The estate of Ohio was at one time

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<v Speaker 1>covered completely with a glacier. Thankfully it isn't anymore. The

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<v Speaker 1>earth got warmer, and now we grow corn here. So

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<v Speaker 1>how is it that the airth temperature has ebbed and flowed?

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<v Speaker 1>And only right now it's our fault? So with that

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<v Speaker 1>in mind, we have a collection, in my estimation, of

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<v Speaker 1>useful idiots who have just taken that and just believed

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<v Speaker 1>it as gospel, and then therefore allow things like ice

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<v Speaker 1>internal combustion engine mandates in bands like's going on in California,

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<v Speaker 1>where they force people to buy, for example, big rigs

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<v Speaker 1>electric big rigs that go one hundred and fifteen miles

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<v Speaker 1>versus the thousand to fifteen hundred miles of diesel trucks go,

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<v Speaker 1>which also happened to cost twice the price of a

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<v Speaker 1>diesel truck. But they're not allowed to sell you a

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<v Speaker 1>diesel unless they sell an EV. That is all made up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's insanity and it's ruining our economy. One illustration. So

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<v Speaker 1>to drain the swamp, don't we have to drain the

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<v Speaker 1>useful idiots who are bought into this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Absolutely, And there's only so much you can do

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<v Speaker 2>to not only get rid of them in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>being responsible for consequential decision making, but you know they'll

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<v Speaker 2>still be out there talking. President Trump appropriately referred to

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<v Speaker 2>this group of folks as the profits of Doom. They've

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<v Speaker 2>been around since the beginning of time. There's some famous

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<v Speaker 2>ones in the Bible. And all you have to know

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<v Speaker 2>is that they're always pushing the same socialist styled solutions

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<v Speaker 2>to whatever the doomsday prophecy is. And that's the case

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<v Speaker 2>with climate change. Yes, you know there was. I worked

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<v Speaker 2>for a senator from Oklahoma for quite some time and

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<v Speaker 2>he used to reference a quote that they want to

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<v Speaker 2>control carbon because if you control carbon, you can control life,

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<v Speaker 2>And that truly is what they are after.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and then that that's the the controlling carbon in

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<v Speaker 1>the name of well saving us all on the planet.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the why that was created to serve the interest

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<v Speaker 1>of the real motivation, the real religion, which is socialism, communism, Marxism,

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<v Speaker 1>or just literal top down control from some collective of

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<v Speaker 1>powerful elite over our lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's exactly right, because you know, they know better

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<v Speaker 2>than us, that's what they think. And if they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to destroy the economy, they have to be doing it

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<v Speaker 2>for a good reason, so they still feel like good people.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's that's hence all the problytizing about about you know,

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<v Speaker 2>how to be how to be a better citizen, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're all in this together in some of this language.

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<v Speaker 2>But the truth is, none of that's necessary to have

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<v Speaker 2>a healthy thriving in environment and general public. We know

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<v Speaker 2>this because we took a totally different approach during the

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<v Speaker 2>Trump administration. We cut regulations, we gave people freedom back,

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<v Speaker 2>we gave people financial investments back. And what happened. The

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<v Speaker 2>economy boomed, and the way that you measure pollutants, whether

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<v Speaker 2>it's clean air, clean water, or cleaning up legacy pollution

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<v Speaker 2>in the soil. We continued to break records on all fronts.

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<v Speaker 1>So we know.

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<v Speaker 2>How to balance the two. We know how to do

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<v Speaker 2>it successful. And you know what, it doesn't require you

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<v Speaker 2>giving up your individual liberties and rights to some morally

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<v Speaker 2>inept elite in Washington, DC that wants to tell you

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<v Speaker 2>what to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know, we could take all the efforts

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<v Speaker 1>we want to get rid of carbon or fill in

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<v Speaker 1>the blank on whatever other pollutant they claim that we're producing,

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<v Speaker 1>and we could do it all day long and succeed

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<v Speaker 1>in meeting zero mission standard, which means we will probably

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<v Speaker 1>not have electricity. Meanwhile, China continues to belch out more

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<v Speaker 1>than we have taken out of the pl and increases

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<v Speaker 1>the amount every single day. I'm sorry, but the globe

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<v Speaker 1>is one single set of air and we're all breathing,

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<v Speaker 1>and so our efforts are negated by our enemy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly right. Well, and that therein lies the key

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<v Speaker 2>problem with the so called Paris Climate Accord. And one

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<v Speaker 2>of the first things I worked on with President Trump

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<v Speaker 2>and getting out was that disastrous deal. And it's because

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's all the bonus burden financial pain falls in

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<v Speaker 2>the United States. Meanwhile, it gives not only countries like

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<v Speaker 2>China a free pass, but also India and Russia and

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<v Speaker 2>their environmental standards. Maybe they look good on a piece

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<v Speaker 2>of paper, but they have no intentions or seriousness about

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<v Speaker 2>implementing them in ways that tangibly matter. If you truly

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<v Speaker 2>care about global health or a better.

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<v Speaker 1>Environment, well, and it's in their best interest to do

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<v Speaker 1>whatever the hell they want while we weaken ourselves by

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<v Speaker 1>cutting our own throats in the name of well saving

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<v Speaker 1>the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's exactly right. You know, as we suppress development,

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<v Speaker 2>lose jobs and investment here in the United States, that

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<v Speaker 2>demand does not go away. It just reservices somewhere else,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's going to most likely resurface in a place

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<v Speaker 2>like China where it's cheap. But it's cheap because they

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<v Speaker 2>cut corners. And if you care about pollution, let's talk

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<v Speaker 2>about traditional particulate matter pollution, soot, fine soot. China, you

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<v Speaker 2>rightfully reference they're building a new coal plant just about

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<v Speaker 2>every week. They just propose a coal plant development plan

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<v Speaker 2>outlook where they're going to have the largest coal fleet

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<v Speaker 2>in the world. But the problem is the coal plants

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<v Speaker 2>that they're building, they don't use pollution control devices. Are

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<v Speaker 2>coal plants in the United States have been using for

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<v Speaker 2>years well.

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<v Speaker 1>And the mandates on the scrubbing technology and the carbon

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<v Speaker 1>removal technology are extraordinarily expensive. So the extent you could

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<v Speaker 1>meet the EPA's onerous demands and removing carbon from the

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<v Speaker 1>coal plant, you probably go out of business trying to

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<v Speaker 1>accomplish that goal. So it's not even an option. Ergo,

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<v Speaker 1>the coal plant doesn't get built.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. They like to take a million dollar problem

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<v Speaker 2>and turn it into a billion dollar liability, and that

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<v Speaker 2>is how EPA uses itself, and it's become a tool

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<v Speaker 2>of the left where they use the role of EPA

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<v Speaker 2>to squeeze out the industries and people that have fallen

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<v Speaker 2>out of political favor. And cold fired power plants gas

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<v Speaker 2>fired power plants are traditional energy resources. They've been front

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<v Speaker 2>and center in that receipt of the weaponization of agencies

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<v Speaker 2>like EPA and the Department of Interior, not because it

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense from a policy perspective, but it makes sense

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<v Speaker 2>from a political perspective by virtue of the left.

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<v Speaker 1>My guest today, author of y'all Fired Southern Bill's Guide

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<v Speaker 1>to Restoring Federalism, Draining the Swamp, manny Gna Sakara Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's cut to the chase you talk about in chapter

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<v Speaker 1>four of your book about firing career employees. Very challenging problem.

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<v Speaker 1>There are rules and REGs in place regarding higher and

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<v Speaker 1>firing a federal employee. So let's talk about that. Assuming

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we all get our dream and not only

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<v Speaker 1>do we cut out useless redundancies in government and just

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<v Speaker 1>forever get rid of departments in restocking and re employing

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<v Speaker 1>fired employees who are so politically biased that they can't

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<v Speaker 1>do their job effectively for the American people. How do

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<v Speaker 1>we replace them? Are there people out there that reject

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<v Speaker 1>this nonsense, would actually do their job without being politically

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<v Speaker 1>biased and harming the American people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Well, I think a lot of the jobs that

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<v Speaker 2>we propose to cut, we just don't replace. Because the

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<v Speaker 2>truth is, the federal government, especially at the agency level,

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<v Speaker 2>it should shrink by at least thirty percent, if not

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<v Speaker 2>forty to fifty. And that's going to be really important.

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<v Speaker 2>A day one exercise for the next conservative administration will

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<v Speaker 2>really need to be filtering all the jobs and offices

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<v Speaker 2>at various agencies and determining which ones tangibly could tangibly

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<v Speaker 2>promote and implement the agency's state admission and wish ones

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<v Speaker 2>do not, and the ones that do not are superfluous.

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<v Speaker 2>They need to go. But then, yeah, getting rid of

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<v Speaker 2>political hacks that sent under this umbrella of public servant

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<v Speaker 2>but actually undermine the direction the political direction of anyone

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<v Speaker 2>that they disagree. Experience this firsthand with President Trump. Not

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<v Speaker 2>only do they disagree, they will go out of their

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<v Speaker 2>way to demean, discredit, and demoralize the political appointees trying

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<v Speaker 2>to implement that vision. So to the extent there needs

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<v Speaker 2>to be some replacement. Another concept that I think is

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<v Speaker 2>really important is moving portions of the federal agency out

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<v Speaker 2>of DC so that you can pull from a broader

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<v Speaker 2>grouping of potential employees people that would like to work

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<v Speaker 2>for the EPA or Interior. They've actually been in the field,

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<v Speaker 2>have really great expertise that they could bring in, but

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<v Speaker 2>they don't want to live in DC. And I understand,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't live there anymore. I wouldn't wish that on anyoney.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you move these outside of DC, then you

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<v Speaker 2>can pull from a broader collection of experience and knowledge

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<v Speaker 2>and where folks are from, which I think would really

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<v Speaker 2>help improve the outcomes of various agencies.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine using the Internet, email, text communications, zoom conference calls

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<v Speaker 1>where you can participate from anywhere in the globe and

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<v Speaker 1>still get your job done effectively. I love the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of diversifying people out of the greater DC area, which

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<v Speaker 1>is obviously infested with this disease. I like to call

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<v Speaker 1>liberalism anyway, I doubt in the final analysis. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is an uphill challenge because it's not just the

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<v Speaker 1>woke left Democrats. I mean, we've got some problems within

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<v Speaker 1>the Republican Party as well. You have to really truly

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<v Speaker 1>stick your neck out to make these bold assertions in

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<v Speaker 1>the face of this brainwashing that's gone on. Mandy, how

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<v Speaker 1>do we address that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we're not alone. We're not alone as a conservative movement.

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<v Speaker 2>We have the courageous, fearless leader we need at this moment,

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<v Speaker 2>which is President Donald Trump. But we also have assistance

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<v Speaker 2>from other industries. I'm talking about Elon Musk and a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the tech folks that two have stepped up

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<v Speaker 2>and said, hey, there's something wrong with a federal government

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<v Speaker 2>that wants to sensor speech and wants to take over

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<v Speaker 2>the public square platforms. Because it's harder for them to

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<v Speaker 2>otherwise maintain political control. There's a convergence of folks even

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<v Speaker 2>from RFK Junior and from the Vek Ramaswami all over

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<v Speaker 2>that are coming out of the woodwork. So I'd say

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<v Speaker 2>that momentum is coming together. It's swelling at a really

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<v Speaker 2>good time. But I like your question because it denotes

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<v Speaker 2>a tone of realism, and that's what we have to have.

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<v Speaker 2>This isn't going to be solved in one administration. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a long term commitment. But I would allude to

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<v Speaker 2>something that's happened before we could do it again. Look

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<v Speaker 2>at the Supreme Court, So that was a bastion of

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<v Speaker 2>liberalism and judicial activism, and a long term, methodical, well resourced,

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<v Speaker 2>to restore it back to its small, sy conservative routes.

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<v Speaker 2>And we did that as as a as a coalition.

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<v Speaker 2>So we've just got to stay the course, stay committed.

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<v Speaker 2>But we really need some key shifting, uh path shifting

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<v Speaker 2>decisions made in this next administration, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to come down to whether or not President

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<v Speaker 2>Trump wins the election. I think he will, and then

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<v Speaker 2>the plan that he starts implementing from day one. But

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of folks who have thought critically about

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<v Speaker 2>this are ready to go and committed to this long

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I know you're familiar with the West Virginia versus

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<v Speaker 1>they want to pack the Supreme Court the left. I

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<v Speaker 1>got a interesting thought process, a thought question before we

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<v Speaker 1>part coming today, Mandy. If they if let's say the

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<v Speaker 1>in this particular administration, and then Trump won and the

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans took over the House and sent it, how comical

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<v Speaker 1>would it be that the Republicans would then appoint the

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, It wouldn't be the first time they're

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<v Speaker 2>playing backfire. And remember when Harry Reid pulled the two

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<v Speaker 2>thirds dearnment for Supreme Court justices, you know, shot, really

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<v Speaker 2>the first.

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<v Speaker 1>Time this shotenfreud of moment that was uh many, you

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<v Speaker 1>got us the car. It has been a real pleasure.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks you for writing the book, y'all, a Southern Bell's

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<v Speaker 1>guide restoring Federalism and draining the Trump We just scratched

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast of this conversation. Mandy, keep up the great

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<v Speaker 1>work and hope to see you as part of the

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<v Speaker 2>God willing, Well, thank you so much. It really was

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<v Speaker 2>a pleasure to be with you this morning.

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