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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the

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Poker Go Podcast. My name is Donnie Peters. His name

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is Tim Duckworth. It is Sunday night, January nineteenth. We

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are heading into the twenty twenty five PGT season, so

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Tim and I are going to do a round of

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predictions for the upcoming season. We'll also hit on some

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general poker predictions. You know, we won't keep it all

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in house here as it pertains to the PGT. We'll

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touch on some bigger picture topics here. High Stakes Poker

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Season fourteen Premiered gott to talk about that, and then

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I want to talk about this situation or this happening

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that took place around the East Coast at Borgata. Definitely

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got to get commissions thoughts on what went down, so

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we'll hit on that. Of course, as always, would like

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One of those mentions there, buddy, hone your skills because

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at nine thirty three pm last night from you into

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our group chat, yes of a screenshot of you playing

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on ws AP dot com. Yes, with like every night

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with pocket queens on the button and the cutoff had

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moved all in for forty big blinds you have. I

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think he had forty point five. You had forty point six.

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Speaker 2: Something like some of that cover by point one yees, listen,

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it was.

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Speaker 1: An outrageously large show. Yes, your question was are y'all

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ever folding here?

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Speaker 2: It was just a question. It was just a question.

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Speaker 1: You need to close down the real money side, head

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on over to play poker go dot com and hone

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your skills against this because asking this question is absolutely

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positively outrageous.

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Speaker 2: It was just I was just look, first of all,

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I have been hunting my skills on play. I just

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want a couple million an hour ago, and it was

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more of a question, just like, what world do you

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guys fold this? By the way, Never took took the

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screenshot and then I pressed call just for what it's worth. Never,

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it was more just gauging how you react to this

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insane forty BB shop in the money, in money in

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the money.

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Speaker 1: Jeans you have questions.

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Speaker 2: I just was gauging the opinion of people that are

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much better at poker than I am.

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Speaker 1: Well, your click call, buddy, Yeah, absolutely positive.

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Speaker 2: Click was up against a six of spades.

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Speaker 1: Who cares what you were up against. It's just ridiculous question,

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an absolutely ridiculous question. All right, let's move into the

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actual stuff that we're going to talk about here. P

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G T predictions. I put down a bunch of stuff.

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Hopefully you prepared. We'll see if you did. Hopefully you

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come with some good answers. I think I got some

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good ones with mine. I will say that this you're

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gonna you're gonna come across a theme with everything that

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I talk about here. So so let's just let's just

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get right into it and the reason why we're doing

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this is you know, it's Sunday night as I mentioned earlier,

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but tomorrow on my Day, is the official start of

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the twenty twenty five Poker gro Tour season, with the

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first event of the PGT Kickoff series five thousand dollars

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buy in double points. For all five of these events,

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we will be live streaming the final tables on poker

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Go Remco and myself will be doing the commentary. So

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if that's your sort of jam, hop on in there

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and give it a listen. It's a it's a really

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fun series just to start things off, so I'm very

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much looking forward to it. After the PGT Kickoff, we

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got the Poker Go Cup, the first of three majors

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on the tour. Who's gonna win it, Buddy, Poker Go

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Cup this year, A'm I gonfess I'm asking you who's

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gonna win it?

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna take Jeremy Osmas. Oh wow, yeah, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I mean just I'm not gonna get you off the bat.

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Speaker 2: H even what prepare for some chalk because you got

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a lot of chalk coming up. That's all I'm gonna say.

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Speaker 1: All Right, you got Jeremy Osmus, who has won the

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Poker Girl Cup before, Yes, so he would become a

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two time winner of the Poker Girl Cup. I'm going

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with Brock Wilson, Okay. I feel like Brock is close

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on a lot of occasions to making some noise in

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a as it pertains to a major series champion on

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the PGT. You know, he's kind of always like hovering

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in contention. Right, So this is the year I think

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Rock Wilson knocks one of those off, and I'll say

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that Brock Wilson is going to win the Poker Grol Cup.

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The next major that we have, the US Poker Open

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coming up in what April? Okay, who's gonna win that one?

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Speaker 2: That one's going to be won by Canadian Daniel O'Gara.

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Speaker 1: Canadian Daniel Okay, Okay, I got Alex Foxen.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you know we're all chalk right now.

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Speaker 1: I mean, why is that chalk? Considering how Foxon's year

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was last year, barely made it into the top forty

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very much at all.

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Speaker 2: Have a great year. Yeah, that's how it works.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that the third of the majors of

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the major series, I should say, Poker Masters coming up

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later this year, September October ish something around there. Who's

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gonna win that one? The Purple Jacket.

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Speaker 2: It's a guy that's gonna skip the cup and skip

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the USPR Steven Childwick.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, so you got a couple of double winners. Yeah,

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because Jeremy Osmas has already won the poperst Cut, Stephen

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Chidwick has already won the Purple Jacket, So you're going

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with them to win again. I'm gonna go with Sean Winter,

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a player who is for sure regular on the PGT,

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but I feel like often overlooked, Like I feel like

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he's always there and like top five, top three stuff

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like that. But you know, I don't know, I feel

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like a Chidwick and a Grand new and Ozmas like

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they get kind of more the the headlines or you know,

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people know about them more than a Shawn Winter. But

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Shawn Winter is a crusher on the PGT every single year,

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all right. I mean, I get the Super High Rollable

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is a major, but it's not a series really, so

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I kind of just have that aside. But anyway, who's

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gonna win Super high Rollerball this year?

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, which Super High Rollerble three two?

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We have three actually now, so you're talking no limit.

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Are we talking about if it's in America or if

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it's in international waters?

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Speaker 1: Fine, let's let's that's audible. Just give me, just give

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me all three. So who's gonna win superhi rollable Nolan

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A hold them, who's gonna win super high rollable PLO?

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And who's gonna win this pipetream idea that you and

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Philip Sternheimer have super high rollable mixed games.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's let's let's go in order. Mixed games first

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coming March six to eighth. We go, dan Zach gonna

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win that one. I'm going to move on to the

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PLO one because that's going to be first if my

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schedule holds. I'm gonna I'm going to say Jared Blesnik,

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you know, close last year one of the year before,

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he's going to come back and win it again. And

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the No Limit one, we're going to get him out

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here in a America playing our events again. Adrian Mitaos,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with super high rollable mixed games. Is

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go with josh Aria and Super high Rollable Nolan mat Holden,

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regular Alex Foxen.

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Speaker 2: Again your team FOEC.

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Speaker 1: See that trend that I was talking about, Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: This is it. I can guess who's going to be

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your next spec event.

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Speaker 1: Who will win PGT Player of the Year. It was

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Jeremy Osmas last year, then of course he went on

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to win the PGT Million Dollar Championship as well. Who's

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going to top the leader board at the end of

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the regular season this year?

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the guy that's gonna play the most

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events out of all possible people you can name, and

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that's Canadian Daniel McGrane.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but is he going to play the most events?

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Speaker 2: Play the most events? I already know Ozmas is skipping

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Mixed Game Series FOX and doesn't really play that much.

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Speaker 1: Makes yeah, but it isn't it? Yeah? But if so,

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if Ozma's is skipping the mixed games or whatever, doesn't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but more points in the Mixed Game Series it's

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tens and there's one hundred.

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm only saying in terms of a play

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the most events I'm playing.

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Speaker 2: I mean play the most events with points. But I'm

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still taking it. I'm Team Canada. You want to your

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fame is is team fox My team is Team Canada.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm gonna pick someone who also staying on

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trend Alex Foxhen, but a person that could be easily

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play the most events. Yes, he Foxing is there every day,

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every single day, playing everything. So you got Nigranny for

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PGT Player of the Year. I have Alex Foxhen. So

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this next one. Since the pgt's inception in twenty twenty one,

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there have been six players who have finished inside the

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top forty of the leaderboard every single season. Now I

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know the first year was the top twenty one, but

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I just looked at the top forty.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Those players are Alex Foxon, Daniel mgranu, Jeremy Osmas, Sam Silverrill,

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Sean Winter, and Steven Chidwick. So these are like the

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if there was a Mount Rushmore of the PGT, these

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six are on it. I know Mount Rushmore is four,

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but hell, we're sticking six on it. It doesn't matter. It's

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our show. These are the six. Like these guys are,

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They're always in the mix for a series title. They're

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always in the field like you talked about, you know,

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in the GRANU playing the most events, like these six

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play the most events, like it can kind of be

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one of these, you know, I know, I know Chidwick

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played a little bit less last year. You know, Silver

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played a little bit less last year. But maybe they

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come back or they play their regular stuff this year,

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and you know, they're playing the most events possible. These

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six players are just they're there every single day. You

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can really count on them, you know, you can really

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just pretty much bank the fact that they're going to

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be in contention for different major titles, if not all

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of them, and then of course for the top forty

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of the leaderboard. The question is the first question. There's

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two questions as it pertains to these six players. Who's

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going to have the best PGT season? I think you

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already answered it, We didn't we both answer that. I mean, yeah,

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pretty much, Yeah, okay, I mean so you said Negran

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for PGT Player of the Year. I said Fox, All right,

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who's going to have the worst season? This is the

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more fun part of the question, anyway.

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Speaker 2: What do you define as the worst season?

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Speaker 1: Though one okay doesn't show up like over I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's Stephen Chadwick. And the main reason is

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we're talking about volume here.

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Speaker 1: You know, he is just said he's going to win

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the Purple Jacket.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I said, if you remember, he's going to

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skip the first two series because he's going to be

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off gallivanting on epts and trying events and living in

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Portugal at the beach playing on gg poker. So of

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all the he's the only one that's international. He's more

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likely to travel to these other stops, not based here

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in Las Vegas. And if you look at last year's leaderboard,

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he only snuck in finish fortieth. So he is, you know,

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the I guess favorite amongst these mount rushmore and a

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half of players to fall out and have the worst season.

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Speaker 1: I'm going with Sam silverall And it's not that Sam

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soverl is you know, any any less of a player

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than anyone else on this list. And he's extremely talented

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and all that, but it just seems like in recent years,

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in recent seasons, like the last season and a half,

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maybe full two seasons, he's just played less. Yeah, doesn't

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show up every single day. Kind of kind of takes

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the approach of he's gonna play when he feels like

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he wants to play, doesn't really force himself to be

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out there grinding an entire series, like he'll pop in

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for like event number two, Skip three, four, come for five,

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like you know, he does that all the time. So

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just that alone, I'll say that he won't have the

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volume that I think these other players will have. Therefore,

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I'm gonna say that he's gonna have the worst season

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out of them. And the way that I looked at

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the worst is he'll finish the lowest and the leader

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of these six heres. So all right, will any of

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these six players finish outside of the top forty?

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Speaker 2: I think I think Childwick. I think he may fall out.

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We're gonna have a lot more I think local, own

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and operated events in Vegas and around America this year.

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So I think the math says he may fall out.

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Speaker 1: I got soverall falling in. I just again, the volume

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thing I think will ultimately kind of bite him at

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the end of the day. All right, So pick three

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players that didn't finish in the top forty from the

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twenty twenty four season to finish in the top forty

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from the twenty twenty five season.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to go firsts. What do you want

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to make it fest? I mean, you name a name.

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I don't name a name.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna rip off all three of mine. But

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I do want to say that for anyone new that's listening.

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The reason I keep saying top forty of the PGT

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Leaderwards because the top forty is what qualifies for the

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season ending PGT Million Dollar Championship pending. You get you know,

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the right number of cases at least three, and you

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opt in. So so yeah, that's why I keep referencing

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top forty, just so you're aware. I got Brock Wilson

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going with my guy who I picked him in the

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Poke Girl Cup. I got Shannon Shore. Interesting, Okay, I

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like that now he made it into the Championship via

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the dream seats from the Last Chance Series, but didn't

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in the top forty. But I think Shannon like has

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had you know, a little bit of a swinging momentum,

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a little bit of a heater this year. That helps

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the bank roll. That means you can play more. You know,

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he's always playing in the studio. Now it's just a

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matter of volume. I think we see him put in

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a little bit more volume and then I got Sam Laskowitz.

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I got him, you know, he was he wasn't too

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far outside the top forty this year. Fight until the end,

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but I got him getting up in there. So Wilson,

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Shore and Laskowitz for.

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Speaker 2: Me, done any research on this have I Yeah, I

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don't know what that means. Sam Lesquit's about that baby.

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Speaker 1: Who gives a shit? He's a fucking poke.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just saying, you know what it's like, having

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a baby and trying to play poker makes a little tougher.

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Speaker 1: I'm a normal person. Poker player is not right?

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Speaker 2: That is that is actually true? Okay. I think my

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three players are going to take Matt Wantman, you know,

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finished just outside the top forty this year last year.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, that's a good one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think he's he's good to get in. I

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gotta take my boy. He's giving me grief. Jeremy Becker,

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this is his season. He is gonna make the top forty.

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And then my third one is Joey Weisman skip the

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back half of the year. I think he still finished

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like in the top sixty. He did play PGT Last Chance,

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had a final table there, but pretty much skipped the

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back half of the season and still was just within

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reaching distance of the top forty. So if he puts

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in a full year of volume, he's my he's my

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pick to get in there this year.

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Speaker 1: All right. So this next one, I'm gonna go first

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again because it's picked three players from the twenty twenty

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four top forty to fall outside this year. I don't

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just pick like Jonathan Tomayo and the WSPH.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's fine, Yeah, good, Yeah, that's.

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Speaker 1: So I went with Sam's overall shocker. I've shown him

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so far. This one might be a surprise to you,

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but I got redlinn. Wow. My reason is so listen,

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I love Redlin, He's an absolute character. But I just

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I feel like last season he started to do a

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little bit of a dancing around the globe in terms

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of like where he's playing and what he's doing. Played

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some more Triton stuff, was that, some EPT stuff, all

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of this. So what if he just doesn't play a

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lot of the PGT stuff. What if he just says,

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you know what, maybe I'll just bounce around and play

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other stuff. So who knows that? That's kind of my

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my lean there. And then so I know that this

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next name is I guess technically w S a P

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final table related, but he also played enough of our

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events that I felt like I included him. That's Brian Kim,

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and he played.

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Speaker 2: You got some inside of information.

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Speaker 1: I don't have any inside from I'm rank him. I

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just I just feel like he might just be kind

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of over tournaments. It's a freaking brind man, or at

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least over like such a big grind. I don't know.

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I mean, he lives in Australia, maybe he's maybe he

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doesn't chase as much. I don't know. I just you know,

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who knows.

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Speaker 2: I'm not taking Stephen Hildwick, but I'm going to take

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three players that had very good wsps, but you could

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kind of count as regular as just due to volume

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and previous history. First one, Scott sever you know, he

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only had eight cashs. He had two big wins in

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PGT qualifying events at the WSP, so you know, he

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won Player of the Year who had an outstanding series,

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and who knows, he may just go back to Bobby's

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room for the entire summer and not play a single

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WSP event, so he's out.

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Speaker 1: Don't tell the people at WPT there I saw on

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their bold predictions him to win three bracelets.

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Speaker 2: Again, well he's they're idiots. No, I love those guys,

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but there it is. My next one is is Philip Ivy. Now, yes,

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he doesn't play in the studio, but he plays every

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PGT qualifying event. He had I think eight or nine

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cashes at the WSP last year. He had a couple

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at the Super High Rollers series in Cypress. He had

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a great year. Obviously, one he's eleventh bracelet. He ain't

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going to repeat that, he's gone. And then my third one,

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someone I wish was playing more PGT events in the

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studio is Chance Corneth. He's told me why he doesn't

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come to the studio that often, but he does love

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the WSP and he had I think four final tables

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which pretty much thrust him into the top twenty at

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one point, and then he didn't play anything else. So

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obviously it was a big season from him at the WSP.

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It would be tough to repeat that. I think he

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will be one that also falls out of the top four.

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Speaker 1: All right, who's going to have a breakout season on

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the PGT?

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Speaker 2: I mean from some guy that complains a lot about

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the breakout player of the year for the GPI Awards.

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I can't believe you put this question in, But how

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do we define breakout season? What do you want to

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define it as? Because that's the way I'm. I didn't

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have anyone written down because I'm.

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Speaker 1: My definition of it as it pertains to the PGT

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is like they're not really known as much to the

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PGT fan base, Like they're not they're not at Alex

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faxon the Grand New Jeremy alsm A Soverall Winter Chiitwig,

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et cetera. They just haven't had those those really big

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breakthrough seasons. Like I would basically say, like somebody that

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is this season's David Coleman from last season who came out,

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had those wins early, you know, performed really well all

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season long, mayor to the championship, you know, blah blah blah.

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He basically became a name. I mean everyone, most of

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the people that play on the PGT are already names.

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Speaker 2: Anyway.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like you have to you have to like perform

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on the PGG. You've got to start winning tournaments, win

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one of the series titles, like get into the top forty,

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that sort of stuff. So that's how I got I

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got one. Go ahead, Michael Joseph Oh I thought of him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think by the way, I think

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he qualifies for all those you know, deliverables that you mentioned.

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Speaker 1: I have John Reardon, King John Reardon, who puts in

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a crap of volume on the PGT, but like never

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like it all every season on the PGT. It like

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gets to the end of the season and I'm like,

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where's John Reardon points? And I look, he's got like

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two hundred. I'm like, what, Like he's here every day,

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What's what's happening? And like he's it's not like he's

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not cashing. It just said. He just really doesn't make

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final tables is the thing. You know, he kind of

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just cashes a lot if he does anything. I'm expecting

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a big year out of King John Reardon.

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Speaker 2: Let's go. Can you wait wait, let me let me

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this is very surprising to me. In the old time

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pe GT rankings, where does John Riordan rank on most

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cashes most cases? Now, I'm gonna give you some numbers.

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I'm gonna give you some like bullet points twelve. That's

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really high.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it was seventeenth, which I was extremely what's tied

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for sixteenth. Actually yeah, but very surprises a lot, and

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forty one is a lot of cashes.

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Speaker 1: He gets like twelve cashes a season, and he's just like,

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it's like twelve cashes two hundred points. Like I'm like, like,

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I look, I look going into the last chance and

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I'm like, oh, he's got to be like you know

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right there, right, No, he's like nowhere to be found.

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He's like one hundred and eighth.

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Speaker 2: He averages forty four points per cash, which is probably

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slightly high than we thought.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, but he doesn't have like the he doesn't

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have the wins, Like he doesn't get like the you know,

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all the wins. So yeah, Jeremy Os must be talked

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about him. PGT Player of the Year. He won the

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PGT Million Dollar Championship perdict his twenty twenty five season.

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You can take that however you want. This is your

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canvas paint.

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Speaker 2: How you will He will finish top five on the leaderboard,

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but I have a worse season point wise. That is

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my prediction.

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Speaker 1: So I also said top five on the leaderboard, and

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then I put three wins fifteen cashes.

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Speaker 2: Oh you want to do it that way?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I mean you can do whatever you want. I

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don't have I don't have that exact thing for all

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the people that we're going to do this for. So

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I just said for Ozmas, he'll get three wins. He'll

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have fifteen cashes, So that would mean more wins than

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last year. Last year he only had one win. Right,

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it would be fewer cashes because he was at like

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twenty something whatever the heck it was, Yeah, cash twenty six,

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I think, so he'll have fewer cashes and then I

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still have him top five on the leader board. I mean,

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he's just he's an incredible player, and he puts in

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the volume. So I still think he can easily finish

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up at the top. And I also think, you know,

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I feel like Jeremy will want to defend the title,

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which is a good thing. I think he'll be out

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for that. You know, it would be a cool thing

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for him to go back to back if that word

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to happen, And I think it'd be something he would

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want to chase, all right. Predict Daniel mgran New's twenty

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twenty five PGT season, Well, I.

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Speaker 2: Already think he's gonna win. So I'm gonna say he's

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gonna win everything. Yeah, you know osamaus twenty nine hundred

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points last season, that's a lot. I think Negrano is

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gonna have twenty seven hundred points. Two wins, call it

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twenty five cashes.

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Speaker 1: Okay. I said top five on the leaderboard for Negranu,

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and I said wins one of the PLO series. Okay,

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I think he's just a supremely underrated polo player. We

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got two of those series every single year. I know

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he's gonna be out playing everything as it pertains to

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those series. So yeah, I got Negranu winning one of

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the PGT PLO series on his way to a top

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five better board finish. All right, predict Jeremy Becker's twenty

469
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:51,960
twenty five PGT season.

470
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:57,759
Speaker 2: Zero wins, But okay, he's gonna break one thousand PGT

471
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,680
points and qualify for the PGT Million Dollar Championship. Wow.

472
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,799
Speaker 1: Okay, I said two studio wins. He had his first week,

473
00:24:06,039 --> 00:24:08,880
he had his first studio win last season. I got

474
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,039
him win in two. And I also said he's going

475
00:24:11,079 --> 00:24:14,400
to finish inside the top forty. So two studio wins

476
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,240
Rebecker inside the top forty. Let's go, all right, as

477
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,519
it pertains to the PGT. This is the last thing

478
00:24:20,559 --> 00:24:22,279
we'll talk about, and then we'll move on to general

479
00:24:22,319 --> 00:24:26,039
poker stuff. Three storylines you're going to keep an eye

480
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,599
on this PGT season.

481
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 2: Trying to keep it in I guess calendar order. But

482
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:35,000
first one to me is seeing if we can double

483
00:24:35,079 --> 00:24:37,720
down on our success that we had in Texas Texas

484
00:24:37,759 --> 00:24:40,680
but grew up and Peeler round Up. Both events had

485
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,559
great numbers. You know, we always say that our first

486
00:24:43,559 --> 00:24:46,119
time event, the next time you do it always drops

487
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,319
down a little bit. But I'm hoping that we can

488
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,119
kind of improve on everything we did, both schedule wise

489
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:56,200
and event wise, and then also see an increase in numbers,

490
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,799
not just the main event, but the whole series down

491
00:24:58,839 --> 00:25:00,680
there in Champions Club. So that's my first kind of

492
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,599
storyline that you know, means a lot to me is

493
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,680
hopefully we can always improve on our things. So yeah,

494
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,119
that's another one for me. Do you want to should

495
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:08,279
do it?

496
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 1: I'll do. I'm looking at David Coleman and I want

497
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,839
to see what sort of I'm gonna call it his

498
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,599
sophomore season on the PGT. It came out last year

499
00:25:18,279 --> 00:25:22,039
absolutely blazon out of the gate at PGT kickoff and

500
00:25:22,079 --> 00:25:24,359
early in the season had a lot of success. Obviously

501
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,119
that propelled him to then go on to qualify for

502
00:25:27,279 --> 00:25:29,519
the top forty of the leaderboard, qualify for that PGT

503
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,279
Million dollars championship. What are we going to see from

504
00:25:32,279 --> 00:25:34,880
mister Coleman this time around? Is he now just going

505
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,880
to be a mainstay? Is there gonna be a sophomore slump?

506
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,759
I would lean that he's going to be a mainstay

507
00:25:39,759 --> 00:25:41,759
on the PGT. He's gonna have the success, he's gonna

508
00:25:41,759 --> 00:25:43,599
finish in the top forty, all that sort of stuff.

509
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,240
But it's gonna be something that I want to keep

510
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,400
an eye on, largely because last year when we were

511
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,799
predicting things, I picked him to be the breakout player

512
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:57,559
for for the PGT. So I want to then see

513
00:25:57,559 --> 00:26:01,079
if that success carries through and how then and you know,

514
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,599
how his season goes over wrong. So that's mine.

515
00:26:03,839 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 2: Well, if he didn't didn't skip kickoff this upcoming week

516
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,359
to go to Disneyland, I feel much more confident about

517
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,960
your man. Come on, hey man, Disneyland. It's a very overrated.

518
00:26:15,559 --> 00:26:20,200
I've never been second storyline. It's hard to say if

519
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,480
it's a storyline or it's but me personally or the

520
00:26:24,559 --> 00:26:28,359
PGT internally have three, four or five kind of new

521
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,559
events we're working on, and I'm hoping that a we

522
00:26:32,559 --> 00:26:35,200
can obviously get the green light on them, get them

523
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,200
out on the schedule for people to play, but also

524
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,880
that the people are receptive of these events and show

525
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,920
that we are trying new things and trying to put

526
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,440
on events that hit our player but also potentially bring

527
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,519
in new players. So I know that's kind of a

528
00:26:52,519 --> 00:26:55,279
soft storyline, but to me that that's kind of important

529
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,759
is when we launch something new that you know, people like, yes,

530
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,000
this is what we want, and we don't get that

531
00:27:01,039 --> 00:27:01,880
negative feedback.

532
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: I got Alex Foxen comeback season last year on the PGT.

533
00:27:07,559 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 2: I'm a surprise.

534
00:27:08,519 --> 00:27:12,759
Speaker 1: He finished thirty eighth on the leader board, barely eclipsed

535
00:27:12,839 --> 00:27:17,920
a thousand points, had no wins, thirteen cashes. He didn't

536
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:22,400
even achieve a million dollars in PGT earnings. Washing this

537
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,839
is like, this is like unheard of for Alex Foxen

538
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:30,119
on the PGT. So I'm expecting a big comeback season

539
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,599
for Alex Foxen. And because I'm expecting that, of course

540
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,160
I'm going to be keeping an eye on it and

541
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,799
seeing if it happens, but I expect big things out

542
00:27:37,799 --> 00:27:40,759
of mister Fox in this time around twenty twenty five

543
00:27:40,799 --> 00:27:43,680
PGT season. So yeah, that's my second thing that I'm

544
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:44,400
keeping an eye on.

545
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 2: Final storyline. For me, we just finished pretty insane season

546
00:27:50,759 --> 00:27:54,240
ending with massive numbers of PGT Lost Chance and obviously

547
00:27:54,279 --> 00:27:58,559
a great winner at the PGT Championship. I want bigger

548
00:27:58,799 --> 00:28:02,240
and better, and I know we're getting bigger and better

549
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,079
at the next PGT Lost Chance with the rule tweaks

550
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,559
extra dream seats up for grabs of that series. It's

551
00:28:08,559 --> 00:28:12,200
going to be the biggest series we've ever run. Exclamation point,

552
00:28:12,319 --> 00:28:15,279
full stop on the line, on the line, put it in.

553
00:28:15,279 --> 00:28:18,279
Speaker 1: Bold, Okay, I mean you're setting the bar high.

554
00:28:18,279 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 2: I like it.

555
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,559
Speaker 1: I'm looking at Steven Chidwick and I want to know

556
00:28:21,599 --> 00:28:25,279
if Stevie returns to form. He's always been a what

557
00:28:25,519 --> 00:28:28,200
top five guy on the PGT Top ten for sure,

558
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,920
always like right there, right there, right there. He won

559
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,599
PGT Player of the Year the one year you know

560
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,519
he's got titles all that sort of stuff. Last year

561
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,119
was a little bit of a down year. It took

562
00:28:39,279 --> 00:28:42,559
until the final series for him to squeak in to

563
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,079
the to the qualification for the PGT Championship. He ended

564
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,920
up doing so, yes, but kind of a similar year

565
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,119
than than Alex Foxen.

566
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 2: You know.

567
00:28:50,559 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: He had nine hundred and sixty nine points, one win,

568
00:28:53,599 --> 00:28:56,519
fourteen cash is one point one twenty six million in earning,

569
00:28:56,599 --> 00:28:59,119
so really not like the the Steven Childwick year that

570
00:28:59,119 --> 00:29:01,839
we're used to seeing on the PGT. So kind of

571
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,799
like I'm looking at Alex Hoxsen, I'm also looking at

572
00:29:03,799 --> 00:29:06,279
Steven Shouldwick and now we're gonna see him return to form,

573
00:29:06,359 --> 00:29:08,279
so you're gonna be looking at him. I know I've

574
00:29:08,279 --> 00:29:10,640
picked fox In to do a lot of really good

575
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,119
things on this upcoming PGT season, But we'll see if

576
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,400
we can get Steven Chiuldwick. You know, one of those

577
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,960
guys who's you know, pushing what twenty cash is like,

578
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,200
he does every single year, top five of the leader board,

579
00:29:20,279 --> 00:29:23,200
all that sort of stuff. So let's see if that

580
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:30,200
happens for Stevie. All right, general poker stuff. Pick one

581
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,480
player to win a World Poker Tour title.

582
00:29:33,519 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 2: Now this is the main Tour, right, I'm not talking Prime.

583
00:29:36,039 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: Main, Yes, the real shit. Okay, we ain't. We ain't

584
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:40,359
doing that fake stuff.

585
00:29:40,799 --> 00:29:43,519
Speaker 2: So I got pick someone I gotta pick someone that

586
00:29:43,599 --> 00:29:46,119
wins one of the four events they run throughout the year.

587
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:52,920
This is kind of tough. Uh yeah, I'm gonna go

588
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,799
with someone you threw out earlier. I'm gonna go with

589
00:29:55,839 --> 00:29:58,960
Brock Wilson. He's probably gonna play all of them. I

590
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,480
think he's pretty decent and then at that buying price

591
00:30:01,559 --> 00:30:03,799
point and you know what this four of them are. Yeah,

592
00:30:04,079 --> 00:30:05,640
he's got a good chance to win one of those

593
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:06,680
four events.

594
00:30:07,039 --> 00:30:09,359
Speaker 1: All right, I'm going with the reigning WPT Player of

595
00:30:09,359 --> 00:30:12,240
the Year, Yunk You Song, who I think it's like

596
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,119
hit kind of his time, you know. I think he's

597
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,559
had a lot of really good stuff, had what was

598
00:30:17,559 --> 00:30:19,559
it Texas Polk ro Open. He'll keep on as well.

599
00:30:19,599 --> 00:30:25,039
So yeah, I think he's primed to have big field

600
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,000
MTT success, you know, coming off winning WPG Player of

601
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,200
the Year. I think he's going to be motivated specifically

602
00:30:31,279 --> 00:30:33,599
towards the World Poker Tour, maybe a little bit more

603
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,240
so than others. So I have Young You Song winning

604
00:30:36,279 --> 00:30:39,039
a WPG title in twenty twenty five. All right, give

605
00:30:39,079 --> 00:30:42,160
me one player to win an EPT title in twenty

606
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:42,720
twenty five.

607
00:30:43,519 --> 00:30:46,319
Speaker 2: There's another not many of them that exists, so does

608
00:30:46,359 --> 00:30:50,480
make it tough. And I'm gonna Audible off your prediction

609
00:30:50,839 --> 00:30:53,759
of Alex fox and crushing the PGT. I'm gonna say,

610
00:30:53,759 --> 00:30:56,359
Alex Foxon is going to do all he's winning on

611
00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:01,160
non PGT events this year, like trying and that includes

612
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,160
an APT title.

613
00:31:02,559 --> 00:31:06,119
Speaker 1: Okay, I have Adrian Matteos or Steven should.

614
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,079
Speaker 2: I have him Tellos? So? And then I believe Audible.

615
00:31:09,119 --> 00:31:12,119
Speaker 1: Us to our crushers, you know, I think they always play,

616
00:31:12,119 --> 00:31:14,519
They always try, at least try and play the EPT stuff.

617
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,920
Name three players who will win a live WSP gold

618
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,160
bracelet in the summer.

619
00:31:19,599 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 2: Can you get fast on this one?

620
00:31:21,839 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: Sure? I have Alex Foxon kind I mean, I think

621
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,240
he's just have an incredible year all around. Sean Deep

622
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:29,960
your boy.

623
00:31:30,119 --> 00:31:31,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's one of.

624
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: The of the best players in the WSP realm for sure.

625
00:31:35,319 --> 00:31:40,839
And then John Reardon, Yep, it's time to do it live, buddy,

626
00:31:41,079 --> 00:31:44,640
Let's go John Reardon. So those are my three.

627
00:31:45,279 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 2: I did have date, but I don't want to pick

628
00:31:47,559 --> 00:31:50,240
him because I want to have some variety. But I'm

629
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,960
gonna take the best poka play in the bud Dylan Weisman.

630
00:31:53,359 --> 00:31:58,279
He'll win another Palo bracelet. I'm gonna take Santhosh. I

631
00:31:58,279 --> 00:32:00,839
think he might repeat as a two hundred and fifty

632
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,839
K champion, So put him as one of my bracelet winners,

633
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:10,119
and then throwing Adrian Mitaos because if Samtush doesn't win it,

634
00:32:10,119 --> 00:32:11,680
it's going to be Mitayos.

635
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,359
Speaker 1: Predict one player to reach the twenty twenty five main

636
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,799
Event final table. I mean this is this is needle

637
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:17,680
in a haystack.

638
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 2: Af staven Song.

639
00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: You know what. I almost picked him, to be honest,

640
00:32:21,519 --> 00:32:24,039
I almost picked Stevens Song, but I went with the name.

641
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,640
You might not even know who this player is.

642
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: Oh, here we go.

643
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: But got to put him on Colin Robinson. So Colin

644
00:32:31,559 --> 00:32:37,400
Robinson is like low key, low key big field crusher

645
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:43,079
At the WSP. Recently he won He won a twenty

646
00:32:43,079 --> 00:32:45,720
five hundred dollars no limit hold him twenty two and

647
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,680
twenty nine entries. He got second in the fifteen hundred

648
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,359
dollars Monster Stack one year eighty three hundred and seventeen

649
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,799
entries there, third place in a fifteen hundred dollars no

650
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,400
limit that had thirteen hundred and six entries. He got

651
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,960
ninth place in Colossus one year fifty eight hundred and

652
00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:04,200
ninety four entries in that one. I mean, clearly Colin

653
00:33:04,279 --> 00:33:08,960
Robinson knows how to navigate these big field mind fests

654
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,240
that that take place so often at the WSP. Right,

655
00:33:12,519 --> 00:33:16,079
so I got Colin Robinson as my player to reach

656
00:33:16,119 --> 00:33:19,759
the twenty twenty five WSP Main Event final table. Which

657
00:33:19,839 --> 00:33:23,480
poker player is going to top the twenty twenty five

658
00:33:24,119 --> 00:33:26,119
money list?

659
00:33:26,839 --> 00:33:29,119
Speaker 2: I mean we could just say everyone anyone would named

660
00:33:29,119 --> 00:33:32,920
on this podcast more than once. The tins of SHOT's

661
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,200
gonna flex off all those names. I'm take my boy,

662
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:36,839
brind Kenny.

663
00:33:37,599 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: Okay, what's gonna have two scores for eight million each?

664
00:33:41,119 --> 00:33:44,359
Speaker 2: You know what? Very possible. That's the craziest I know,

665
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,519
That's what I mean.

666
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,279
Speaker 1: On trend Alex Foxen Alex Fox and Alex Fox and

667
00:33:50,319 --> 00:33:52,480
Alex Fox is for me, who's gonna be the highest

668
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,119
earning female poker player in twenty twenty five?

669
00:33:55,759 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 2: See the two answer people? I want to say, it

670
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,839
feels like the most layup answers, And I don't know

671
00:33:59,839 --> 00:34:02,039
if I want to kind of flex off the completely.

672
00:34:02,079 --> 00:34:03,799
Speaker 1: Do you want to say who Kristen Fox and.

673
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 2: Jason Fox or Socio Jang from New Zealand? Because she

674
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,559
plays all the trying events. That seems like too easy

675
00:34:09,599 --> 00:34:11,440
to pick, like that's too too chalky.

676
00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 1: Well I have Jang.

677
00:34:13,079 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm not going to pick either of them,

678
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:15,960
but they have the front run.

679
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,199
Speaker 1: It's also like, I'm with you on like those of

680
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,960
the two, I feel like that are the favorites. Yeah,

681
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,559
but I also feel like if if there was like

682
00:34:24,599 --> 00:34:26,960
a this was a sports book, you had both those

683
00:34:27,039 --> 00:34:28,719
names on it, people would be like, who the hell

684
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,280
is Soshia Jang? I mean the people who watch Triton, Yes,

685
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,280
of course they know who she is, but I think

686
00:34:33,519 --> 00:34:35,960
common poker people don't really yet know who she is.

687
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,480
So for those out there who don't know, don't be

688
00:34:39,599 --> 00:34:42,960
surprised to see Soshia Jang's name on the top of

689
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,920
the all time money or of the money list for

690
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,400
female poker players in twenty twenty five. Because she's good.

691
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,599
She works with, you know, some of the really really

692
00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:53,239
good players. She plays all the super high by and

693
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,840
stuff that takes place all around the world, ardly at Triton,

694
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,880
So yeah, you know, don't be surprised to see that

695
00:34:59,039 --> 00:35:00,159
name up on top.

696
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 2: I was leaning towards Cherish Andrews, but her buying like

697
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,559
average buying would just never be enough.

698
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,519
Speaker 1: Sure, but I mean, but she plays like enough twenty

699
00:35:11,519 --> 00:35:12,440
five keys.

700
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but it's none about ones and like somehow.

701
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,039
Speaker 1: She doesn't the bigger field ones like she gets me in.

702
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,599
Speaker 2: I'm going to take someone like off the board. No

703
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:27,199
odds on FanDuel. But she had two cash's at the

704
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:33,000
tin Monte Carlo series, sia ono, So she's back. Well,

705
00:35:33,039 --> 00:35:34,599
I don't know if she's back, but the fact that.

706
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: She can't out of the cash game streets.

707
00:35:36,599 --> 00:35:41,119
Speaker 2: But if she's playing the Monte Carlo tournaments, okay, one

708
00:35:41,159 --> 00:35:44,480
was that tried and invitational, but still she played some

709
00:35:44,519 --> 00:35:46,760
events there. Does that mean maybe she's like, you know what,

710
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,360
maybe I want to play some tournaments. Just takes one

711
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,599
score to like, you know, flick that switch and get

712
00:35:54,679 --> 00:35:57,480
the bug. So that's going to be you know, obviously

713
00:35:57,679 --> 00:35:59,559
we've discussed the two favorites. I'm going to take her

714
00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:02,480
as the the roughie to get there.

715
00:36:02,559 --> 00:36:04,519
Speaker 1: All right, just like we did when it comes to

716
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,599
the PGT. Give me three things you're going to be

717
00:36:07,599 --> 00:36:10,400
watching for this year in poker in general.

718
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 2: I think the first one is probably should be at

719
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:15,719
the top of everyone's mind.

720
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,039
Speaker 1: List, it's probably mine.

721
00:36:19,039 --> 00:36:26,599
Speaker 2: How will the WSP be with GG now publicly involved?

722
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,519
So are we going to see anything different? Is it

723
00:36:28,639 --> 00:36:31,519
still going to be the same old show, the same setup,

724
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,039
everything the same old We're going to see some remarkably

725
00:36:34,039 --> 00:36:38,519
different things like will the WSP plus app be live

726
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,519
for the summer series in time? Will it get approved,

727
00:36:42,519 --> 00:36:46,280
et cetera. So just seeing how things start changing with

728
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,880
GG now very publicly involved.

729
00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got the same one as my number one.

730
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,320
Any changes to the w CP is what I wrote down,

731
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,000
you know, is it is it going to be one

732
00:36:55,039 --> 00:36:58,639
of those things where it's just very status quo for

733
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,000
one year and then you really see it come in

734
00:37:01,039 --> 00:37:03,440
for the twenty twenty sixth WSP. Are we going to

735
00:37:03,519 --> 00:37:07,920
certainly start seeing things take effect this summer? You know,

736
00:37:08,039 --> 00:37:11,960
maybe things that people have taken from WSP Paradise. You

737
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,360
know you mentioned the WSP plus app stuff like that.

738
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,599
You know, when is that stuff gonna happen? Is it

739
00:37:17,639 --> 00:37:20,199
going to start happening this year for the summer? So

740
00:37:21,079 --> 00:37:23,920
let's let's see what happens there. What's your next one?

741
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 2: I mean, the rumor mal is swirling about what's happening

742
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,400
in December and January of twenty twenty five slash twenty

743
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,519
twenty six. So I'm kind of eagerly waiting to see

744
00:37:34,519 --> 00:37:34,960
what kind.

745
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,559
Speaker 1: Of to do, huh said, I love a good rumor.

746
00:37:38,519 --> 00:37:42,159
Speaker 2: Ealy awaiting what happens with the WBT World Championship. Will

747
00:37:42,159 --> 00:37:43,960
it still be in December? Will it still be at

748
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:48,559
the win? Will they bring back a guarantee WSP Paradise?

749
00:37:48,639 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: So, yes, it's going to be in December. Yes, it's

750
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:51,119
going to be at the win.

751
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 2: I mean what I mean, I do not never know,

752
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:58,079
you never know.

753
00:37:58,159 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: Guarantee who knows?

754
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,079
Speaker 2: But the other stuff, Yes, WSP Paradise. Will it be

755
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,639
in December? You know they've changed it every year so

756
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:11,079
far in dramatic format of the schedule. So is there

757
00:38:11,079 --> 00:38:13,599
another massive change? Are they going to kind of audible

758
00:38:13,639 --> 00:38:16,719
off their twenty five million, twenty five k buying fifty

759
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,639
million guarantee? Are they going to move it to January?

760
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,360
What else is happening in January? We've heard some stuff

761
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,840
about Pocus Stars, et cetera. So that kind of winter

762
00:38:26,639 --> 00:38:29,440
festival time which has been you know the last few years,

763
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,719
have been growing. How is that going to change? Is

764
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,079
going to be the same and how that's going to

765
00:38:33,079 --> 00:38:35,840
affect kind of what everyone else is doing in the industry.

766
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: I do think it's interesting about basically paradise. You know,

767
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:44,559
you mentioned that basically the drastic changes between the first

768
00:38:44,599 --> 00:38:47,440
year and the second year. I think you would want

769
00:38:47,519 --> 00:38:51,000
to go like drastic change versus subtle change, like like,

770
00:38:51,119 --> 00:38:52,960
for example, next year, like if they run back the

771
00:38:53,039 --> 00:38:56,239
twenty five k but they have like only a thirty

772
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,280
million dollar guarantee on it, right, I mean like something

773
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,679
like that. No, Like just I'm just kind of thinking

774
00:39:02,679 --> 00:39:05,880
in my head, like would it be kind of very

775
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,760
unique to just do something completely different every single year

776
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,840
for this you know what? Like yeah, next year, it's

777
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,440
like we're gonna do a freaking fifteen hundred dollars one

778
00:39:16,519 --> 00:39:18,679
hundred million dollar guarantee, like so you know, like just

779
00:39:18,679 --> 00:39:20,880
thinking like you're just like going all over the place

780
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,679
every year, just like completely switching it up from one,

781
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:27,000
like one spectrum to the other. Like that'd just be great.

782
00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:32,840
So I got to regulated online poker progress and you

783
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,000
mentioned the rumor for December. I keep hearing betem jam

784
00:39:36,079 --> 00:39:39,719
is coming to Nevada, So can it freaking happen already?

785
00:39:40,159 --> 00:39:42,239
Like I heard last year? It's gonna happen last year.

786
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:43,639
I heard this year, it's gonna happen this year. Like

787
00:39:43,679 --> 00:39:45,440
I've heard, you know, it could be Q one. I

788
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,000
heard it could be by the end of the year.

789
00:39:47,039 --> 00:39:48,400
Like can it just happen?

790
00:39:49,039 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 2: You know?

791
00:39:50,119 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: It just be good for those of us here in

792
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,360
Nevada to just you know, have an extra competitor in

793
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,079
the state, extra option to play all that sort of stuff.

794
00:39:59,119 --> 00:40:02,480
So I'm I'm just looking for, you know, kind of

795
00:40:02,519 --> 00:40:06,360
two things. One regulated online poker progress or do we

796
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,719
get another state on board? Does Pennsylvania join actually get involved?

797
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,320
I know they've like you know, said that they're going

798
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,800
to be getting involved in terms of the interstate liquidity,

799
00:40:16,199 --> 00:40:18,440
Like does that actually happen? And then, you know, do

800
00:40:18,519 --> 00:40:20,559
we get someone else here in Nevada? And I'm looking

801
00:40:20,599 --> 00:40:24,239
most specifically at bet MGM. So here go for your third.

802
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,159
Speaker 2: My third is also related to competition and also related

803
00:40:28,199 --> 00:40:31,119
to ben MGM in a way. But are we finally

804
00:40:31,119 --> 00:40:33,679
going to see this this bet MGM poker too. We've

805
00:40:33,679 --> 00:40:36,280
heard about are we finally going to see more napt

806
00:40:36,519 --> 00:40:41,400
stops around North America? It's it's been talked about in

807
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,159
the last couple of years obviously, and nothing's happened with

808
00:40:44,199 --> 00:40:49,039
either tour, But is this the year where we start

809
00:40:49,119 --> 00:40:51,599
hearing more concrete things, you know dates, even if it's

810
00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:53,800
for twenty twenty six, you know we're going to hear

811
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:58,400
about NAPT going to Ontario or going to Pennsylvania. Ben

812
00:40:58,519 --> 00:41:04,559
MGM obviously has two main properties, Aria and Bogada out

813
00:41:04,599 --> 00:41:09,000
on the West coast. You know, let's is there something

814
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,440
they can do liquidity wise, shared liquidity run opening events

815
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,199
in both places. They all come for the Aria well,

816
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,360
you know, the bet MGM Poker Championships kind of thing,

817
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,199
So kind of seeing how that kind of plays out

818
00:41:21,199 --> 00:41:22,599
both NABT and bet MGM.

819
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: I'm looking at sweepstakes, the sweepstakes poker sites. You know,

820
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:34,280
there's been a lot of attention turned their way in

821
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,280
recent months. You know, are these legal? Are these in

822
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,159
a gray area? Are they illegal? You know, everyone's kind

823
00:41:41,159 --> 00:41:44,320
of got their arguments for the different things. Got I

824
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:48,119
think Global Poker pulled out of Michigan. You have Global

825
00:41:48,119 --> 00:41:50,440
Poker recently announcing that they were going to be pulling

826
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,960
out or they are in the process right now pulling

827
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:57,719
out of Nevada. So you know what happens with sweepstakes,

828
00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,760
and then you also have a new player in the

829
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:04,960
mix club WPT goal like they had the big free Role.

830
00:42:05,119 --> 00:42:08,639
We haven't really heard much from them since the free roll, right,

831
00:42:08,679 --> 00:42:12,400
they just they just not no, I'm saying, we haven't

832
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,480
heard much until like the last couple of days when

833
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,599
they basically said, like, you know, the platform's coming, and

834
00:42:16,639 --> 00:42:18,440
I think I saw Rampage saying like he's having a

835
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:23,800
meetup game whatever. Now I'm personally not surprised that there's

836
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,960
silent after the Free role, because you know, I played

837
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,079
on the platform during the free roll stuff, you know,

838
00:42:29,159 --> 00:42:31,719
trying to get one of those Golden passports, and it

839
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:36,239
definitely seemed like a very basic MVP just to get

840
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:40,159
it out there, and I just assumed that they would

841
00:42:40,199 --> 00:42:43,400
get something out there, allow players to play those free

842
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:47,719
roll tournaments, and then kind of go very quiet afterwards

843
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,280
as you fix everything, you get the full platform ready

844
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,880
to launch in whatever timeframe that is, and then you

845
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,880
come out with it later. So I'm not surprised personally

846
00:42:56,199 --> 00:43:00,760
on the silence on that front. That said, you're now

847
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:06,239
coming out in in a space where there's a lot

848
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,480
of people are looking at sweepstakes, poker and They're like,

849
00:43:10,079 --> 00:43:13,119
is this allowed? Should this be allowed? Should states be

850
00:43:13,199 --> 00:43:15,559
coming after them? Should the federal government be looking at them?

851
00:43:15,559 --> 00:43:18,360
Like this whole thing. So there's that aspect of things.

852
00:43:18,679 --> 00:43:22,519
And then also specifically, as it pertains the Club WPT Gold,

853
00:43:23,199 --> 00:43:26,320
you had this massive free roll, this massive marketing promotion

854
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,880
to launch this new platform. What's it going to be

855
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,079
like at the end of the day, And it's it

856
00:43:32,119 --> 00:43:36,000
going to be successful? Meaning did the massive five million

857
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,320
dollars free roll and all of that user acquisition work

858
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,880
in terms of making it a viable platform to play on?

859
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,360
So I'm just saying this is something I'm going to

860
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,920
be watching in poker, like I think. I think that,

861
00:43:47,039 --> 00:43:48,800
you know, towards the end of twenty twenty four, there

862
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,559
was certainly a lot of sweep steaks casino and sweepstakes

863
00:43:52,639 --> 00:43:57,639
poker in the gambling industry news headlines. So let's see

864
00:43:57,679 --> 00:44:01,440
then what happens here in twenty five. So I think

865
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,079
that that's going to be an interesting thing to just

866
00:44:03,199 --> 00:44:05,159
kind of, you know, keep an eye on it.

867
00:44:05,199 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 2: Sounds like, yeah, Club WBD Gold launching basically meetup games

868
00:44:09,519 --> 00:44:12,519
over the next eleven days, starting on Monday. Get to

869
00:44:12,519 --> 00:44:17,320
play with Phil Ivy I'm in, does it really feel

870
00:44:17,639 --> 00:44:22,719
it's definitely phil Ivy, brad Owen, Rampage, Wolfgang Zuanlu. Guessing

871
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,719
some other WPT people will get in and it's called

872
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,480
you know, Project Gold Phase one meetup games, so maybe

873
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,760
they're you know, Phase one is still acknowledging that it's

874
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,880
you know, we're still in mode beta mode games.

875
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: I just want to play tournaments.

876
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, but this is I think a good way

877
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,159
to see. You know, we all go on tomorrow, we

878
00:44:43,199 --> 00:44:46,960
play and see is the software the same or is

879
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,639
it dramatically different? You know, they've had what a month

880
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,760
since they ran all those promo free roles pretty much,

881
00:44:53,519 --> 00:44:56,519
you know, hopefully they took some constructive criticism from people

882
00:44:57,039 --> 00:44:59,760
and made changes where it was needed. And I guess

883
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,960
we'll line at the next week or so.

884
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,280
Speaker 1: I will say that the software will be a massive

885
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:08,360
upgrade if they don't have that damn shaking when it's

886
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,840
like timing down on a player. That shit made me

887
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,679
think I was having a seizure. I mean, it was unreal. Okay,

888
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,239
so get rid of that and it will be good to

889
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:17,679
go SPA.

890
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 2: Speaking of online poker, and this is obviously a little

891
00:45:20,519 --> 00:45:22,119
bit of a pad on my back because I made

892
00:45:22,119 --> 00:45:23,920
a final table last side. But you know when you

893
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,679
make a final table on WSP and there's two ends

894
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,280
and then the table goes dark and the two hands

895
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,320
light up? Do you a like that and be think

896
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:34,440
that should be on every table?

897
00:45:34,679 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: Well, definitely should not be on every table. That's absolutely insane.

898
00:45:39,119 --> 00:45:42,159
I don't mind it. At the final tables, I will

899
00:45:42,159 --> 00:45:43,840
say that you should. There should probably just be an

900
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,800
option that you can turn it off. Okay, I can

901
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,880
that be an option because you can like turn off sounds,

902
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,440
you can turn off certain animations like whatever. I like that.

903
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,119
When you get heads up, the money on the table

904
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:59,719
is not usd it's not US dollars. It looks like euros,

905
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,599
It looks looks like it could be Australian dollars. I

906
00:46:01,599 --> 00:46:03,679
have no idea what it is. It's not American dollars.

907
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,880
That is, for damn sure, which I think is wildly hilarious.

908
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:11,280
Because wsip dot com is a US facing online poker site.

909
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,079
Speaker 2: Where is the software I made?

910
00:46:13,599 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: Well, I just think that that's funny. But it doesn't

911
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,320
matter where the software is made, Like, you can't change

912
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:19,599
that for this, you.

913
00:46:19,639 --> 00:46:22,079
Speaker 2: Sure you can I'm just saying that that the software

914
00:46:22,159 --> 00:46:24,280
is European based, so they probably that was there. Yeah,

915
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,440
but that's also like the stuck image to put in

916
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:27,800
and that no one cared to change it.

917
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: Oh no, it's wildly silly. Okay, it's also funny to me.

918
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,360
This is this is like kind of along the same lines.

919
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,760
But if you go play the blast sitting goes the

920
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,800
background stuff says it says eight eight eight.

921
00:46:38,119 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it says eight eight to eight.

922
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:44,039
Speaker 1: Poker, because a poker obviously supplies the passion.

923
00:46:44,159 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 2: Thought that was on all the tables. It's certainly on the.

924
00:46:47,159 --> 00:46:51,079
Speaker 1: Bloss unless it's like not on the regular tables because

925
00:46:51,079 --> 00:46:53,360
I have a different background or something. I don't know.

926
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,360
But the money thing is hilarious to me.

927
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 2: I find you mentioned that in our group chat last night,

928
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,119
and that's when I was at the found table. But

929
00:47:00,159 --> 00:47:03,280
I didn't want to like google it. I thought I

930
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,159
jinxed myself in bust, I mean I busted anyway.

931
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: High Stakes Poker kicked off season fourteen last week Monday.

932
00:47:14,679 --> 00:47:17,760
There will be new episodes just about every Monday for

933
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:19,960
the next I don't even know a handful of weeks.

934
00:47:20,119 --> 00:47:22,679
I don't know exactly album the season in but I

935
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,880
will say that's a pretty good start to the season overall.

936
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,679
This one kicked off with Andrew Robel, Jared Blesnick, Seth Gottlieb,

937
00:47:30,679 --> 00:47:36,639
Brandon Stephen, Justin Gavory, Mark Kulick, and Marcus Gonzalvez. You

938
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:41,000
had Blessnick, Gottlieb, Kulick, and Gonzalz were all making their

939
00:47:41,079 --> 00:47:44,039
high Stakes Poker debuts, and then all the other players

940
00:47:44,119 --> 00:47:46,000
have been on High Stakes Poker in the past, So

941
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,559
good blend of old and new. Like I said, I

942
00:47:49,599 --> 00:47:51,239
thought it was a good start to the season. I

943
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,559
was entertained by the episode. There were some big pots.

944
00:47:55,599 --> 00:47:58,039
I think having Jared Blesnick on there is just a

945
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,559
plus content. I mean, the guy's just an absolute character.

946
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,760
He's not scared to shy away from playing big pots,

947
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,800
getting involved. He certainly has a lot of personality. He's

948
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,480
a talker, all that sort of stuff. So I also

949
00:48:10,519 --> 00:48:12,840
feel like, you know, Robull is sort of the king

950
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:18,199
of cash games right now, and until someone tells me

951
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,920
differently for a really good reason, he should almost always

952
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,800
have a seat on I six Poker. He's just the guy.

953
00:48:24,519 --> 00:48:27,800
So yeah, those are kind of my initial thoughts, and

954
00:48:28,079 --> 00:48:29,840
I thought it was a good start to the season

955
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,679
in the sense that I'm certainly looking forward to watching

956
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,119
the rest of the season, you know, starting with Monday's

957
00:48:36,119 --> 00:48:39,679
episode coming up. So yeah, any thoughts from you initially.

958
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 2: No, you're right. It was a great way to kind

959
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:47,679
of kick off the season with some pretty insane hands. Obviously,

960
00:48:47,679 --> 00:48:50,639
that last one from Blesnik was pretty crazy. It was

961
00:48:50,679 --> 00:48:52,440
good to see some new faces, you know. I feel

962
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:57,639
like we often get some plays, like very repetitive plays

963
00:48:57,639 --> 00:48:59,480
in some of these cash games, but in fact, we

964
00:48:59,559 --> 00:49:02,760
open this one up with, you know, several new faces

965
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,440
along with you know, the trustee Audit robl who's not

966
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,559
afraid to put a chip in the pot, same with

967
00:49:08,599 --> 00:49:11,719
Brandon Steven was pretty cool. And from the PGT side

968
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,280
of things, seeing Seth Gottlieb on there is is very

969
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,480
interesting to me. I've only seen him play like one

970
00:49:17,519 --> 00:49:21,360
event in my life in person. Sorry not, I'm not

971
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,400
counting any of this try and stuff, but so it's

972
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,719
interesting just to see how he kind of operates and

973
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,039
battles with these other high stakes crushes.

974
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, Gottlieb was also a player who was I was

975
00:49:34,679 --> 00:49:37,239
drawn a little bit more towards just in terms of

976
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:41,320
getting to see their debut. I mean, we obviously know

977
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,760
a lot about Blessnick over the years. It was still

978
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,760
cool to see his debut. But you know, other than him,

979
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,679
you know, between Gottleeb, Gonzolves, and Kulick, you know, I

980
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,119
thought Gottlieb stood out to me just probably because of

981
00:49:54,199 --> 00:49:59,199
like his his background on who he is in the

982
00:49:59,199 --> 00:50:02,000
poker world. Just he's a very big backer of a

983
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,760
lot of players. So you know, what, what is he

984
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:07,559
going to bring to the game. Is he going to

985
00:50:07,599 --> 00:50:09,880
be a big gambler? Is he going to be kind

986
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,840
of tight like? What is he going to have a personality?

987
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,719
I know he's good friends with Blesnick, so there's that dynamic.

988
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,480
So you know, I was certainly looking forward to seeing

989
00:50:18,679 --> 00:50:21,239
how he played. And he got involved in at least

990
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,480
one big pot, so maybe that's a sign of things

991
00:50:24,519 --> 00:50:26,199
to come. But you know, he was the one that

992
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,920
I was kind of drawn the most towards, and think

993
00:50:29,039 --> 00:50:31,760
Gonzalz is you know, he's just Marcus is just a

994
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,880
pro like you know, he's just a pros pro like

995
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,880
he'll obviously do what needs to be done to play

996
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,679
in these games and get invited back, of course, but

997
00:50:40,559 --> 00:50:42,639
very solid pro have known him for a while, So yeah,

998
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,119
I do have one question that just came to me

999
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:54,360
on Andrew Robo specifically Poker Hall of Famer. Well, he

1000
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:58,920
definitely doesn't have like the tournament accolades, but wouldn't you

1001
00:50:59,119 --> 00:51:00,880
think of him? Now, I'm going to use his name

1002
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,760
and that people listen, don't jump down my throat, But

1003
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,280
I'm going to just use the name as kind of

1004
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:11,400
a comparison David Oppenheim. Like David Openheim wasn't known for tournaments, right,

1005
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,039
And all I'm saying is that, obviously Andrew Rouble is

1006
00:51:15,039 --> 00:51:16,639
not known for tournaments. He's known for me in a

1007
00:51:16,679 --> 00:51:20,599
high stakes cash game crusher. So is there a world

1008
00:51:20,639 --> 00:51:23,440
where he's a Poker Hall of Fame or is that

1009
00:51:23,599 --> 00:51:25,239
just never cross anyone's.

1010
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 2: Mind under the current format? No, he is thirty eight

1011
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,320
years old. Of all the people that are not in

1012
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:35,679
the Hall of Fame and have qualified via age, there

1013
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,400
is a total of sixty five people ahead of him

1014
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:45,119
age wise that I'm more likely to get in than him.

1015
00:51:46,519 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 1: Did you make that up?

1016
00:51:47,519 --> 00:51:49,079
Speaker 2: I can run you down the list with their birth

1017
00:51:49,199 --> 00:51:51,159
dates if you want. There's some people on there that

1018
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,760
you could Probably you can definitely argue that Andrew robeles

1019
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,639
ahead up. But I'm going to name some names coming

1020
00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:01,679
up in his you know nominee ye, okay, ready, good luck,

1021
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,679
good luck Andrew Robe is what I'm going to start with.

1022
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:11,639
Nick Parchangelo, we probably not, Chrissy Foxon definitely, Darren Elias interesting,

1023
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:15,800
Jason Mercier, Bryn Kenny, Tom Dwan leave his name off,

1024
00:52:16,519 --> 00:52:21,960
Chance Corneth maybe, Sean Deep, John Reisner, Justin Bonoma, Isaac Hackson,

1025
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:27,880
Jason Kuhn, Chris Mormon, Joey Ingram, Scott Severa, Ben Lamb.

1026
00:52:28,599 --> 00:52:30,679
None of those guys are forty yet, but they are

1027
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,360
at least thirty eight. I can keep going if you want.

1028
00:52:33,599 --> 00:52:36,239
But every name I just named there probably would get

1029
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,119
in before Robo. I mean, maybe not Joey Ingram, but

1030
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,360
still I don't agree their resumes are strong enough to

1031
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,320
get them in. Now. The Hall of Fame is a

1032
00:52:47,599 --> 00:52:48,960
I don't want to get too deep in not but

1033
00:52:49,519 --> 00:52:51,719
whatever it's. People are having to cast their own votes,

1034
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,679
so if you were preferred by others, you've got more

1035
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,199
chance of getting in. Now that's just the thirty eight

1036
00:52:57,199 --> 00:52:59,199
to forty year olds. If you want me to go

1037
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,079
through the forty year old. It's a not we're talking Schulman,

1038
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:09,400
A Lahi, Vanessa selps Ari, Angel mariaj. Nacho, Barbero, Grinder,

1039
00:53:10,119 --> 00:53:15,760
osmas Es Fondiari, Jack Effel, josh Ai Goss Hanson, Like,

1040
00:53:17,079 --> 00:53:22,719
there's still some formidable poker players that have like qualified

1041
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,880
by age that I haven't even made a nomination ballot yet.

1042
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,880
So unless they change the rules, I think it's nearly

1043
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,039
impossible for Andrew ro Would to be in the Hall

1044
00:53:32,079 --> 00:53:32,400
of Fame.

1045
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, just ask him the question, that's all.

1046
00:53:35,559 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 2: I mean.

1047
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,119
Speaker 1: Again, he just seems to be the king of high

1048
00:53:39,119 --> 00:53:43,400
stakes cash games. Yeah, and I think he's probably somebody

1049
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:48,519
who often gets overlooked, you know, kind of in a

1050
00:53:48,559 --> 00:53:51,519
similar sense, not to the degree, but in a similar

1051
00:53:51,519 --> 00:53:54,519
sense that Patrick Antonio's often got overlooked just because Patrick

1052
00:53:54,559 --> 00:53:58,679
never had obviously the tournament resume, right, you know, I

1053
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,679
think Patrick is very deserving of the Hall of Fame,

1054
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:06,119
and more so than than Robul overall. But you know,

1055
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,920
if Robel continues to just dominate high stakes cash games

1056
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,119
for the next what ten to fifteen years, you know what,

1057
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,639
it's kind of my question, like, what's that case look

1058
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:16,400
like then?

1059
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 2: And By the way, yes, I do have a Poker

1060
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:20,960
Hall of Fame duck with names and ages in it.

1061
00:54:21,039 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 1: Of course I would expect this is a.

1062
00:54:24,119 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 2: Column if they've been nominated before.

1063
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 1: I mean, just incredible stuff. All right, last topic and

1064
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:35,039
then we'll get out of here. So Borgata recently had

1065
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:40,280
their Winter Poker Open, and for those that may have

1066
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:44,400
been paying attention, they had the main event and it

1067
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:49,679
finished with co champions. So I'm just going to read

1068
00:54:50,199 --> 00:54:54,440
from the recab article posted on poker dot org. Is

1069
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,079
I just think that these two things are just kind

1070
00:54:57,079 --> 00:54:59,000
of stick out to me. This is the first and

1071
00:54:59,039 --> 00:55:01,880
this is in no way like a slight it at poker,

1072
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,400
there's obviously reporting the news and doing their job. But

1073
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,559
the first sentence of this recap article, after over two

1074
00:55:08,599 --> 00:55:12,039
weeks of action, thirty trophy events and millions in prize money,

1075
00:55:12,039 --> 00:55:15,400
awarded the marquee event of the Borgata Winter Poke Rope

1076
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,880
and has crowned not one, but two champions. So that

1077
00:55:19,039 --> 00:55:23,440
right there, this is the marquee event of your series

1078
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:28,079
and you crowned two champions. Very weird to me. If

1079
00:55:28,079 --> 00:55:31,639
you ask me like, I just don't, I don't understand.

1080
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,159
Speaker 2: I hate it, absolutely hate it.

1081
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I want to you're the committee.

1082
00:55:39,039 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 2: Okay, just I'm I'm i am team chopped. It's you all.

1083
00:55:45,559 --> 00:55:48,119
It's the player's money. If they want to chop it up,

1084
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,760
I don't mind, but you can add some caveats to it,

1085
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:57,440
you know. And first of all, no, no, no co champions.

1086
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,840
Here's the problem. This event has two trophies, has it

1087
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,840
both a betam gam and a Bulgata trophy. So it's

1088
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:08,440
like it kind of incentimizes them to chop and take

1089
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,559
a trophy each because I bet you they each took

1090
00:56:10,599 --> 00:56:14,599
a trophy hunt. So no, none of this. Now, if

1091
00:56:14,599 --> 00:56:17,719
they do a chop and they want to flip for it,

1092
00:56:19,119 --> 00:56:20,559
the winner has to get more money.

1093
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,599
Speaker 1: Okay, but let me just jump in here quickly because

1094
00:56:23,639 --> 00:56:26,679
also in this recap article, the section about heads up

1095
00:56:26,679 --> 00:56:29,440
play says they started in whatever they and they like,

1096
00:56:29,559 --> 00:56:31,840
somebody doubled the kind of got even. They played for

1097
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:36,159
two hours before they eventually agreed to a chop, And

1098
00:56:36,199 --> 00:56:39,679
then it says, so they agreed to the chop. So

1099
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:43,119
the winners were Joseph Nieman got four hundred and almost

1100
00:56:43,119 --> 00:56:45,960
four hundred and seven thousand, win League got four hundred

1101
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,800
and twenty five thousand, So they agreeted that chop then

1102
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,639
it says, I'm reading directly from the article. They then

1103
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,639
ran a few blind hands to see who was signing

1104
00:56:54,679 --> 00:56:58,559
for first, but they both took home a trophy and

1105
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,840
both even took some winner photos to crown the occasion. Well,

1106
00:57:03,079 --> 00:57:07,360
if they ran blind hands for somebody to sign for first,

1107
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:12,239
that person in first place is the champion. End of story. Yes,

1108
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,960
why are we promoting co champions? What are we doing here? People?

1109
00:57:19,599 --> 00:57:22,519
This is like, this is like if the PGT million

1110
00:57:22,519 --> 00:57:25,599
dollar Championship that just happened, they get to heads up play.

1111
00:57:25,679 --> 00:57:28,480
Jeremy Osmus and Nick Shulman come over, hey, Tim, we

1112
00:57:28,559 --> 00:57:29,599
want to be co champs.

1113
00:57:31,199 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would tell them the funk off exactly.

1114
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, let me come on. What are we

1115
00:57:36,039 --> 00:57:37,199
doing here? Seriously?

1116
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 2: Co champs? It's it's just not it's not poker.

1117
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: This is why listen. I'm I'm with you on the whole,

1118
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,679
the whole. Like it's the player's money thing. They can

1119
00:57:50,719 --> 00:57:53,719
do whatever they want. I totally get it, but I

1120
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:58,800
do just kind of wish that people would it would

1121
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:00,800
just be accepted that, like, listen and you have to

1122
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,119
leave five percent of the prize pool to play for

1123
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,880
at a at a minimum, like and the trophy. Yeah,

1124
00:58:08,079 --> 00:58:09,920
like that's not even that a lot of money at

1125
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:11,039
the end of the day. And if you want to

1126
00:58:11,039 --> 00:58:13,840
do some under the table dealings with that, go do

1127
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,400
your thing whatever. But like, I mean, come on, I'm

1128
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:21,679
also listening. I'm also against like the whole don't allow chops.

1129
00:58:21,679 --> 00:58:23,719
I think that's also ridiculous, by the way, So I'm

1130
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,760
just I just but I feel like there should be

1131
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,320
a winner, and I feel like when you're the operator here.

1132
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:29,719
And this is why I want to bring this up

1133
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,519
to you specifically, and why I use that example from

1134
00:58:32,599 --> 00:58:36,880
the PDT Championship is that as like the operator, and

1135
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,480
going back to this first sentence, like this is the

1136
00:58:39,599 --> 00:58:42,679
marquee event of your series, your big series. You should

1137
00:58:42,679 --> 00:58:45,880
want a champion, somebody you can crown, somebody that you

1138
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,480
can promote, somebody you can slap up their winner photo.

1139
00:58:48,599 --> 00:58:52,239
Like you know, imagine you walk into the the horseshoe

1140
00:58:52,559 --> 00:58:55,679
and instead of just Chris Moneymaker, it's Chris Moneymaker and

1141
00:58:55,719 --> 00:58:59,079
Sammy Faja shaking hands behind the money because they were

1142
00:58:59,119 --> 00:59:01,559
co champions in two thousand and three. No, this is

1143
00:59:01,599 --> 00:59:02,519
not how this works.

1144
00:59:02,639 --> 00:59:07,639
Speaker 2: Okay, No, it's not No, it's I hate everything about it.

1145
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:11,239
Speaker 1: CO Champions, just say, listen, guys, you can do whatever

1146
00:59:11,239 --> 00:59:14,239
you want with the money, okay, but somebody's gotta sign

1147
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,440
for first, and that person is getting the trophy. They're

1148
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,840
going down as the winner of the event. Okay, the champion.

1149
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,920
They're gonna get their name in the headlines, their photo

1150
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:25,599
on the wall, they're gonna get out there in the

1151
00:59:25,599 --> 00:59:28,639
press release, all this sort of stuff. What are we doing,

1152
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:36,039
CO Champions? What are we gonna see three, four, five champions?

1153
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,119
I mean I also see eighteen player chops like on

1154
00:59:39,159 --> 00:59:40,079
the regular of these days.

1155
00:59:40,119 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 2: I mean, what, what's actually funny is that you bring

1156
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,599
up a three play a chop. I'm trying to find it.

1157
00:59:45,679 --> 00:59:49,280
But the last time I was at Bolgada, there was

1158
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:53,079
basically a three player chop for the main event and

1159
00:59:53,199 --> 00:59:54,800
it was on stream and they.

1160
00:59:54,679 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 1: Did like you're fine, who cares what?

1161
00:59:56,639 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was it was the way it was done.

1162
00:59:59,119 --> 01:00:01,760
It was not good. But going back to this point,

1163
01:00:02,199 --> 01:00:03,840
Borgarda should be like, you know what, you guys want

1164
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:05,320
to chop the money, that's fine. You guys want to

1165
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,000
take it a trophy home that's fine, but you guys

1166
01:00:07,039 --> 01:00:10,000
got to play this out and we're crowning one champion,

1167
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:13,679
and the one champion is going to take photos with

1168
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:15,840
the trophies and that's what we're going to promote. Now.

1169
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,000
If the other guy, if you guys make a deal

1170
01:00:19,079 --> 01:00:20,559
and one of you is getting one trophy and he

1171
01:00:20,559 --> 01:00:23,360
wants to take some photos, cool, pull out your iPhone,

1172
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:27,239
but we ain't taking it because like that's even happened

1173
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:32,400
in our studio, Like so no, we're not. We're not

1174
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,320
going to do it that way. From the Borgarda's point

1175
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,039
of view, We're going to do it official. We're going

1176
01:00:36,079 --> 01:00:37,679
to have a winner. We're going to promote this winner

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01:00:37,679 --> 01:00:40,599
at the next series. He will be our champion regardless

1178
01:00:40,639 --> 01:00:43,199
of how much money you chop for. But Borgarda should

1179
01:00:43,199 --> 01:00:46,519
also just be like, guys, you need to make you

1180
01:00:46,639 --> 01:00:49,320
got to do this properly. First has to get more money,

1181
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,760
you know, simple as that, Like you can. It's fine

1182
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,119
if the first guy wins thirty k more and wants

1183
01:00:56,119 --> 01:00:57,719
to pay thirty k to the other guy because they

1184
01:00:57,719 --> 01:00:59,719
made some deal off the table, that's fine, but the

1185
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:02,239
head line has to have the whoever wins wins the

1186
01:01:02,239 --> 01:01:05,800
most money, because otherwise it just looks bad. And you

1187
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:09,280
know what, it's happened on the PGT before and since then,

1188
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:11,719
it will not allow be allowed to happen again.

1189
01:01:12,519 --> 01:01:14,639
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't care about I don't care about

1190
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:16,559
first not getting the most money. If there was some

1191
01:01:16,599 --> 01:01:19,679
sort of deal that was made, I don't necessarily care

1192
01:01:19,719 --> 01:01:22,920
about that. I just I just take more of an

1193
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:28,079
issue with crowning co champions. I mean, it just seems

1194
01:01:28,119 --> 01:01:29,480
silly to be honest.

1195
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 2: Okay, let's say you and me got heads up and

1196
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:35,960
we were crown card champions. Never it would never happen.

1197
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 1: Were first of all, we're never getting heads up.

1198
01:01:38,159 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 2: Second, you supposed say you're not good enough to get

1199
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,039
that date. That's what you should have said. Which trophy?

1200
01:01:44,119 --> 01:01:45,239
Do you want to take time.

1201
01:01:45,559 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 1: Publicly tell you what my pipe dream is when I

1202
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:51,599
when I get heads up with a friend in a

1203
01:01:51,639 --> 01:01:52,280
poker tournament.

1204
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,239
Speaker 2: You a good friend to pretend you're playing for it all,

1205
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:55,880
but you're no.

1206
01:01:57,159 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 1: We both just leave.

1207
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 2: You've said this before. This is the worst.

1208
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:04,719
Speaker 1: This is what I don't think I've ever said it publicly.

1209
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:06,400
Like if you and I were like, let's just go

1210
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:09,280
to dinner and just don't tell anyone what are they

1211
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:11,840
going to do? What are they going to do? Blind

1212
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:16,199
us off? Okay, go ahead, Like I wanted.

1213
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 2: To ask you which trophy do you want? Do you

1214
01:02:17,519 --> 01:02:19,199
want the one that looks like the Bogata or do

1215
01:02:19,239 --> 01:02:20,239
you want the big Lion?

1216
01:02:21,239 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 1: The Borgata won by a million miles Borga. The Borgata trophy,

1217
01:02:27,119 --> 01:02:32,360
the the replica of their hotel tower is one of

1218
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:36,920
the first trophies in poker that I saw and really wanted.

1219
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:40,360
It's not as high up there on the list as

1220
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:44,079
the wind trophies, which are similar, they're you know, replica

1221
01:02:44,119 --> 01:02:46,679
of the tower. But I want to win trophy more

1222
01:02:46,679 --> 01:02:50,119
than anything. I've always wanted one of these Borgada trophies.

1223
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:53,000
I do not like this bed MGM trophy, Like I

1224
01:02:53,039 --> 01:02:55,480
think it should have just been like an actual like

1225
01:02:55,559 --> 01:02:56,000
a lion.

1226
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's kind of too much like a Venetian then, right.

1227
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:03,239
Speaker 1: Which which I always thought was weird because the lion

1228
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,960
is MGM, because the lion's always.

1229
01:03:05,679 --> 01:03:08,559
Speaker 2: Been MGM, isn't the lion in the Venetian logo?

1230
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 1: I know, well yeah, but I've never associated it.

1231
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,159
Speaker 2: It's actually you know what it's on a line. It's

1232
01:03:15,199 --> 01:03:18,880
like a yeah, I don't know what it is. It's

1233
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:20,440
not a line, but it looks like a line. It's

1234
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:21,880
a line with wings whatever it is.

1235
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 1: But like, you know, I think of what is it

1236
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:30,639
the something in California they have the California Poker Open or.

1237
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 2: You mean the bear or the bear.

1238
01:03:34,079 --> 01:03:37,119
Speaker 1: The guy on the horse is bad, the Remington Horse.

1239
01:03:37,199 --> 01:03:39,880
That's for the Ali Poker Classic. Okay. I was also

1240
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:41,840
going to say that. But then they also have the

1241
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,719
the California State Championships or whatever it is, but they

1242
01:03:44,719 --> 01:03:46,800
have the bears. Those are cool too, like you know,

1243
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:49,239
like that's why this should just be a you know

1244
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:52,079
this this like it's like, okay, give me a square

1245
01:03:52,159 --> 01:03:54,440
and you know, put a plaque on it. Not that cool.

1246
01:03:54,559 --> 01:03:57,239
Give me the actual lion, you know, like that'd be badass.

1247
01:03:57,599 --> 01:03:59,400
I'm sure there's other things you could do, like you

1248
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:02,199
know Aria uh, which is MGM, you know for the

1249
01:04:02,199 --> 01:04:04,280
Ario Poke rope. And I really like their trophies. I

1250
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:07,599
thought they were awesome. Yep, you know, so I I

1251
01:04:07,639 --> 01:04:10,320
do think and listen, I think we need to get creative,

1252
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:12,480
more creative with some of our trophies. Some of them

1253
01:04:12,519 --> 01:04:14,880
are very cool. Some of them have gotten pretty stale

1254
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:15,760
to be honest.

1255
01:04:15,599 --> 01:04:18,199
Speaker 2: I think we're trying to work on a Pokemonsa's trophy.

1256
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:19,840
That's the that's the one we're trying to work on

1257
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:23,719
right now. Like I basically pitch them, we need a bronze.

1258
01:04:24,039 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 1: It should be like a little bust, but not a

1259
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:29,079
bust of just the upper body of somebody wearing back

1260
01:04:29,119 --> 01:04:32,039
and out. Yeah, yeah, like that's what should be. But yeah,

1261
01:04:32,039 --> 01:04:35,599
but the Burgata trophies I've always really, really really liked.

1262
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:37,840
I've only played a couple. I think I've only played

1263
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:41,760
maybe two tournaments lifetime of Borgatta played zero.

1264
01:04:42,679 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 2: It's a It's how far That's pretty far? That was

1265
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:46,639
pretty far away from you from that.

1266
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like a four and a half hour

1267
01:04:49,559 --> 01:04:51,559
drive from where I was in New Hampshire.

1268
01:04:51,599 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 2: What's What's the.

1269
01:04:54,599 --> 01:04:57,159
Speaker 1: Fox was? The Mohigan Sun were like an hour and

1270
01:04:57,239 --> 01:05:01,679
forty five? I remember, well, now it's some Encore on

1271
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:05,440
Core Boston. I once drove down to Borgada for this

1272
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:09,079
big weekend like multi flights whatever the heck, six hundred

1273
01:05:09,119 --> 01:05:11,920
five and all. I can't even remember what it was. Played,

1274
01:05:13,079 --> 01:05:17,440
ended up like getting I think somebody shoved the small blind.

1275
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:18,840
I was in the big line with as King I

1276
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:22,519
called they had some shitty hand like jack three or

1277
01:05:22,519 --> 01:05:24,920
something ridiculous, and like they won, and I was just

1278
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,360
I remember, I was like so dejected. I was like,

1279
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:29,920
I'm not even staying overnight. I'm just I'm driving home.

1280
01:05:30,079 --> 01:05:32,039
The hell with it, Like I'm just so like, I

1281
01:05:32,119 --> 01:05:37,159
was so upset, so upset. But anyway, Yeah, I've always

1282
01:05:37,159 --> 01:05:39,199
wanted one of those borgout trophies. So maybe maybe one

1283
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:43,719
day I'll get back. All right, cool? Anything else, uh

1284
01:05:44,559 --> 01:05:45,559
that we got to talk about?

1285
01:05:45,639 --> 01:05:48,159
Speaker 2: Yes we did. We were on the topic of trophies.

1286
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 1: Lord yelling at me people out.

1287
01:05:52,679 --> 01:05:57,559
Speaker 2: There, I want to win Trophy of the the JPI

1288
01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:01,760
was so please go to my Twitter PGT Twitter and

1289
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:03,679
vote for the Texas belt buckle. It's all asked for.

1290
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:07,159
Just I think the voting against tomorrow Monday, and then

1291
01:06:07,239 --> 01:06:08,960
if we make it through, there's another round of voting.

1292
01:06:09,079 --> 01:06:13,360
Just vote for us. I don't know, but it's most

1293
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:17,039
original trophy design. Surely we have a chance, big belt

1294
01:06:17,039 --> 01:06:20,480
buckle for Texas. Come on, if you support the podcast,

1295
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:21,840
you need to go vote for us.

1296
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:23,199
Speaker 1: What are you up against? I'll tell you if you're

1297
01:06:23,199 --> 01:06:24,320
going to you know what.

1298
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. I'm not looking. I'm voting you should

1299
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:29,440
only look at the belt buckle. That's only trophy of

1300
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:30,079
the matter. Sign.

1301
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. If not, you're not allowed to listen to this podcast.

1302
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're banned. I'm banning you.

1303
01:06:34,599 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all right. Cool, that's all we got. Hopefully

1304
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:41,000
you guys enjoyed this episode. We'll see if we can

1305
01:06:41,199 --> 01:06:43,239
make good on any of these predictions that we laid

1306
01:06:43,239 --> 01:06:47,519
out again. The twenty twenty five PGT season starts Monday,

1307
01:06:47,719 --> 01:06:51,480
January twentieth with the first event of the PGT Kickoff.

1308
01:06:51,679 --> 01:06:55,079
It's gonna be double points for every cash for the

1309
01:06:55,159 --> 01:06:58,280
series five events. The first four are five thousand dollars

1310
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:00,840
buy ins, the last one is a ten thousand are buying. Okay,

1311
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:04,400
last year we had what David Coleman won two events,

1312
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,400
Kristen Foxon won an event, who else?

1313
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 2: Justin you and Dylan we I can't remember Justin.

1314
01:07:11,239 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 1: Young and that crazy ending? Was that the crazy ending?

1315
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:14,079
Speaker 2: Hand?

1316
01:07:14,159 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 1: Or was that is David Colan one can't remember?

1317
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 2: That was I think the David Coleman one.

1318
01:07:17,679 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, but a lot of fun here again. We're going

1319
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:23,400
to be streaming starting on Tuesday. At the final tables,

1320
01:07:24,079 --> 01:07:26,199
Remco and I will be on the call for those

1321
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:28,639
final tables, so a lot of fun. Let's get this

1322
01:07:28,679 --> 01:07:32,519
PGT started right and big, and let's freaking go. That's

1323
01:07:32,559 --> 01:07:34,599
gonna do it for us. My name is Donny Peters,

1324
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:36,920
his name is Tim Duckwork And we'll talk to you

1325
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:37,920
guys next time.