WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.760 --> 00:00:14.439 He'll be never go be beer. It's the Internet. You're busy. 2 00:00:14.519 --> 00:00:17.160 Let's do this for August fourteenth to twenty twenty four. 3 00:00:17.480 --> 00:00:19.399 For the next hour or so, let me help you 4 00:00:19.440 --> 00:00:21.879 sort through the world of gaming on Games Mornings Live 5 00:00:21.920 --> 00:00:24.640 with me Jeff Grubb. Today we got news about the 6 00:00:24.679 --> 00:00:27.600 switch to that game that Valve doesn't want anyone to 7 00:00:27.640 --> 00:00:28.559 talk about, and. 8 00:00:28.559 --> 00:00:30.079 An interesting game getting delayed. 9 00:00:30.079 --> 00:00:33.039 But first, please join me and welcoming today's co host 10 00:00:33.039 --> 00:00:34.039 to Game mess Mornings. 11 00:00:34.039 --> 00:00:36.600 It's Lucy James. Everybody, Lucy, how are you doing? 12 00:00:37.200 --> 00:00:39.799 Hello? I'm doing all right, Thank you. I was just 13 00:00:39.799 --> 00:00:41.759 thinking this is my last show for a couple weeks 14 00:00:41.799 --> 00:00:44.000 because I'm going two games Tom. 15 00:00:44.280 --> 00:00:46.479 Yes, Yeah, we got some games common news. We're talking 16 00:00:46.560 --> 00:00:48.039 like there seems like it's going to be a pretty 17 00:00:48.079 --> 00:00:51.119 decent show. I'm gonna be able to see some fun stuff. 18 00:00:51.200 --> 00:00:52.600 I think Opening Night Live is going to be a 19 00:00:52.600 --> 00:00:55.399 good time. So, yeah, you've been to games Com a 20 00:00:55.439 --> 00:00:58.479 bunch of times, right, Like as a veteran, what's like, 21 00:00:58.679 --> 00:01:00.799 what is your go to like making sure you have 22 00:01:00.840 --> 00:01:01.799 a good show over there. 23 00:01:02.759 --> 00:01:07.000 I think this is my tenth games called Yeah, so 24 00:01:07.079 --> 00:01:09.480 in the UK you go all the time because it's 25 00:01:09.519 --> 00:01:14.280 such a it's just a hop over the pond. My 26 00:01:14.519 --> 00:01:19.760 go to honestly shower more times than you think you 27 00:01:19.840 --> 00:01:22.840 need to because it's so hot over there. Last year, 28 00:01:22.920 --> 00:01:27.040 I think I averaged two point three showers. Okay, good day. 29 00:01:27.359 --> 00:01:30.159 Right, there was a couple of days where there were 30 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:32.480 three showers, but at least two showers a day. 31 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:35.719 At least two showers a day. Yeah, because it's so 32 00:01:36.040 --> 00:01:40.719 it's so hot. Sure, I love games because it's massive. 33 00:01:41.480 --> 00:01:43.959 Dan and Mike are worried that the hotel won't have 34 00:01:44.000 --> 00:01:48.599 air conditioning. Is that a concern that they should have a. 35 00:01:51.280 --> 00:01:54.200 I think he has that conditioning. Whose hotels have that conditioning? 36 00:01:54.480 --> 00:01:56.959 H It's like people's houses don't have that condition right. 37 00:01:57.000 --> 00:01:59.840 Well, Dan is in a hotel in London right now. 38 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:01.920 Can't sleep at night because it doesn't have air conditioning, 39 00:02:01.959 --> 00:02:03.680 I guess, or it doesn't work very well, one one 40 00:02:03.760 --> 00:02:07.120 or the other. Uh So, But that's you know, that's 41 00:02:07.120 --> 00:02:10.639 not Games, that's not Cologne. That's it's not like going 42 00:02:10.879 --> 00:02:12.039 for a big industry event. 43 00:02:12.199 --> 00:02:13.960 It probably has I was goo. I think I think 44 00:02:14.000 --> 00:02:16.479 it would be fine also, I mean, yeah, the hotel 45 00:02:16.479 --> 00:02:18.680 that I stayed in last year was a car a 46 00:02:18.759 --> 00:02:23.319 race car themed hotel, so okay, when you got in 47 00:02:23.360 --> 00:02:25.120 the left it would make like a room noise. 48 00:02:25.319 --> 00:02:26.560 So well, that's incredible. 49 00:02:26.599 --> 00:02:29.719 That's it was pretty it was so hopefully Donna's staying there. 50 00:02:29.759 --> 00:02:30.840 I don't think is, but. 51 00:02:31.000 --> 00:02:35.719 Yeah, that's that'd be ideal for Dan, big race car guy. Yeah, 52 00:02:36.039 --> 00:02:38.560 I'm excited for you all. I wish I was able 53 00:02:38.599 --> 00:02:41.039 to come next time. I've never been to games Com, 54 00:02:41.080 --> 00:02:43.800 so uh, I would like to make that happen sometime. 55 00:02:43.919 --> 00:02:46.560 And I don't think I don't know if Dan's been, 56 00:02:46.560 --> 00:02:48.159 but b know Mike hasn't been, So you guys can 57 00:02:48.199 --> 00:02:51.479 show them a good time, yes, and you guys come 58 00:02:51.520 --> 00:02:53.240 back to some fun stuff and we'll put it all 59 00:02:53.240 --> 00:02:55.159 the site. I think I really like that. The general 60 00:02:55.199 --> 00:02:58.400 idea of Giant Bomb on the road doing bombcasts from 61 00:02:58.439 --> 00:03:01.800 Germany and all that stuff, a voicemail dump truck from Germany. 62 00:03:02.039 --> 00:03:04.280 That's a really good time. So people should definitely tune 63 00:03:04.280 --> 00:03:05.840 in next week for a lot of fun stuff. And 64 00:03:05.879 --> 00:03:08.599 then for the home crew we'll be doing Opening Night 65 00:03:08.639 --> 00:03:09.199 Live and. 66 00:03:09.120 --> 00:03:09.960 All that good stuff. 67 00:03:09.960 --> 00:03:12.199 We'll talk over it and make sure that people can 68 00:03:12.439 --> 00:03:14.159 keep up with what's going on as best we can. 69 00:03:14.199 --> 00:03:16.879 Well have game Mess Mornings as well, so definitely tune in. 70 00:03:16.840 --> 00:03:20.120 For all that. Yeah, but when do you take do 71 00:03:20.199 --> 00:03:22.479 you like leave like on on the weekend? Next sunks, 72 00:03:22.520 --> 00:03:25.080 it's tuesdays when things go. Let's get started, right, what. 73 00:03:25.439 --> 00:03:27.879 I leave on Monday and I get that Tuesday morning? 74 00:03:28.280 --> 00:03:32.479 So snap, okay, getna need to figure that out. 75 00:03:32.800 --> 00:03:36.199 Yeah, well, good luck with that you guys. I will 76 00:03:36.240 --> 00:03:37.840 have a good time, I'm sure though, Well you know, 77 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:39.599 it's just go there and have a good time. 78 00:03:39.599 --> 00:03:41.800 That's mostly what it's gonna be about. For Giant Bomb, 79 00:03:41.800 --> 00:03:43.400 I'm pretty sure you're busy with a bunch. 80 00:03:43.199 --> 00:03:44.879 Of other stuff, but for the Giant Bob stuff, just 81 00:03:44.879 --> 00:03:48.080 make it fun. All right, Let's explain what we do 82 00:03:48.120 --> 00:03:50.360 here most weekdays. I, Jeff Grubb, will help piece your 83 00:03:50.360 --> 00:03:53.280 gaming life back together. That includes breaking news and maybe 84 00:03:53.360 --> 00:03:56.759 even some of our own original reporting. For all these topics, 85 00:03:56.840 --> 00:03:58.759 I'll get the input of a bona fide expert who 86 00:03:58.800 --> 00:04:01.039 will make me look smart. If you're watching live on 87 00:04:01.080 --> 00:04:03.319 twitch welcome, you can always listen to the show later 88 00:04:03.400 --> 00:04:06.319 on podcast feeds by searching for game Mes Mornings, or 89 00:04:06.360 --> 00:04:09.759 find the RSS on GiantBomb dot com. You can also 90 00:04:09.800 --> 00:04:13.000 catch the show later with chapters and timestamps on YouTube. 91 00:04:13.680 --> 00:04:16.399 Hello YouTube, all right, we have a lot to get into, 92 00:04:16.480 --> 00:04:19.680 so let's start the morning mess with Switch to is 93 00:04:19.720 --> 00:04:23.759 not coming before April twenty twenty five. Devs reportedly say 94 00:04:23.800 --> 00:04:28.040 this is from Luis Joshua Gudrierez at GameSpot. A number 95 00:04:28.040 --> 00:04:30.639 of developers believe the next Nintendo console may not be 96 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:33.839 released until well into twenty twenty five. While speaking on 97 00:04:33.920 --> 00:04:38.839 the GI podcast Games Industry of a podcast, journalist Christopher 98 00:04:38.879 --> 00:04:41.000 Dring sought to clear up a popular rumor that Nintendo 99 00:04:41.079 --> 00:04:43.160 successor to the Switch may be released by the end 100 00:04:43.199 --> 00:04:45.720 of the fiscal year, which ends on March thirty first, 101 00:04:45.800 --> 00:04:48.959 twenty twenty five. No developer I have spoken to expects 102 00:04:48.959 --> 00:04:51.480 it to launch in this financial year. In fact, they've 103 00:04:51.480 --> 00:04:53.879 been told not to expect it in this financial year. 104 00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:55.879 A bunch of people I spoke to hope it's out 105 00:04:55.879 --> 00:05:00.279 still in April or May, so I guess kind of 106 00:05:00.279 --> 00:05:03.160 puts like like a little question mark on what they're 107 00:05:03.199 --> 00:05:05.639 being told not this financial year, but they're not getting 108 00:05:05.480 --> 00:05:08.360 any other information beyond that. According to these developers who 109 00:05:08.360 --> 00:05:12.720 spoke to Christopher Dring, so does it April or May launch? 110 00:05:12.800 --> 00:05:14.759 For a switch to sound right to you, or do 111 00:05:14.800 --> 00:05:17.519 you expect it to slip further into twenty twenty five? 112 00:05:18.560 --> 00:05:22.959 Sons right to me. I mean switch was what April seventeen. 113 00:05:22.959 --> 00:05:24.439 It was like March April? 114 00:05:24.519 --> 00:05:25.560 Yeah, March April. 115 00:05:25.600 --> 00:05:28.839 Yeah, that sounds like March, I think, yeah, yeah. 116 00:05:28.680 --> 00:05:30.639 So, I mean that timeframe kind of makes sense to 117 00:05:30.680 --> 00:05:32.319 me if it comes at the end of the financial 118 00:05:32.399 --> 00:05:35.839 year or in the next one, that can that yeah 119 00:05:35.839 --> 00:05:38.399 around that makes sense to me, Like I feel it 120 00:05:38.519 --> 00:05:42.360 was March when shaing, Yeah, that makes sense to me. 121 00:05:42.600 --> 00:05:44.399 It feels weird, like I can barely think about what's 122 00:05:44.399 --> 00:05:46.079 happening next week alone next year. 123 00:05:46.199 --> 00:05:47.560 Oh yeah, yeah, definitely. 124 00:05:48.199 --> 00:05:50.759 But it also feels like as we get to you know, 125 00:05:50.759 --> 00:05:54.439 we're in August, it's going to be September soon. It'd 126 00:05:54.439 --> 00:05:56.240 be weird if like that system, like I have a 127 00:05:56.279 --> 00:05:58.480 certain point it was like March. It seems impossible because 128 00:05:58.519 --> 00:06:01.040 it's just like that's so soon now, like we're almost 129 00:06:01.040 --> 00:06:04.040 to the point where that's only six months away, and 130 00:06:04.120 --> 00:06:06.560 yet that's kind of the timeframe they operated on with 131 00:06:06.759 --> 00:06:09.160 the Switch one. But I just don't know they're going 132 00:06:09.199 --> 00:06:10.600 to be able to repeat that because they are going 133 00:06:10.680 --> 00:06:12.240 to keep trying to sell the switch, and they were 134 00:06:12.240 --> 00:06:17.360 not continuing to sell the WEU. But regardless, I mean, 135 00:06:17.399 --> 00:06:19.800 they know they want to get the system out. There's 136 00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:22.240 a lot of financial reasons that they want to get 137 00:06:22.279 --> 00:06:24.720 it out in terms of the Switch. One is slowing 138 00:06:24.759 --> 00:06:26.959 down the switch to they want to have kind of 139 00:06:27.240 --> 00:06:29.759 a peaceful transfer of power there and just kind of 140 00:06:29.800 --> 00:06:33.560 keep as much momentum going as possible. But I think 141 00:06:33.560 --> 00:06:37.920 they're also in a world where, you know, if it 142 00:06:37.959 --> 00:06:40.639 is like, oh, suddenly it's coming out in May, like yeah, 143 00:06:40.639 --> 00:06:42.839 you could release a new video game system in May, 144 00:06:42.920 --> 00:06:44.519 but I think once you get in the summer months, 145 00:06:44.519 --> 00:06:46.959 I think Nintendo, even Nintendo would be a little bit 146 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:50.399 more hesitant about that. Like I don't think June July 147 00:06:50.600 --> 00:06:52.480 release really is on the table, and I think that 148 00:06:52.519 --> 00:06:54.759 would then make it so they'd be like, Okay, never mind, 149 00:06:54.759 --> 00:06:55.839 we'll just wait until the fall. 150 00:06:56.040 --> 00:06:58.040 We'll put it out in September or something like that. 151 00:06:58.160 --> 00:07:00.240 So I think it's there's a chance to come out 152 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:02.560 in April and May, but if I'm Nintendo, I could 153 00:07:02.560 --> 00:07:04.920 easily see them making the decision to slip. 154 00:07:04.680 --> 00:07:06.600 It later in the year, very easily. 155 00:07:07.639 --> 00:07:11.160 But either way, like it's going to dominate next year. 156 00:07:11.360 --> 00:07:12.800 One of the things that Dring said is that he's 157 00:07:12.800 --> 00:07:15.879 worried about the switch to coming out, or the developers 158 00:07:15.920 --> 00:07:17.519 are worried about the switch to coming out at the 159 00:07:17.560 --> 00:07:19.519 same time as Grand Theft Auto six, because they're like, 160 00:07:19.560 --> 00:07:21.360 that would be just a mad crunch that no one 161 00:07:21.399 --> 00:07:23.240 would know how to handle, so they're going to try 162 00:07:23.240 --> 00:07:25.040 to avoid that. But I don't think Nintendo would care 163 00:07:25.040 --> 00:07:26.920 about that, right, No. 164 00:07:27.079 --> 00:07:28.959 I think out of anyone who would care about it, 165 00:07:29.040 --> 00:07:31.839 Nintendo's are probably the people who don't care. I mean 166 00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:38.800 Nintendo historically obviously moving towards the family market. GTA definitely 167 00:07:38.800 --> 00:07:41.560 doesn't aim to be part of the family market, but 168 00:07:41.600 --> 00:07:45.800 the kids love it anyway, I think. No, Yeah, I 169 00:07:45.800 --> 00:07:49.160 mean that's you know, depending on if GTA hits Fall. 170 00:07:49.160 --> 00:07:50.639 I know they said in the recent earning support that 171 00:07:50.639 --> 00:07:53.480 they were still on track, but anything can happen in 172 00:07:53.480 --> 00:07:54.360 the next year. 173 00:07:54.279 --> 00:07:57.279 So yeah, I think as easy as it would be 174 00:07:57.360 --> 00:08:00.240 for the switch to to slip into the holidays season 175 00:08:00.279 --> 00:08:03.720 of twenty twenty five, I think it's even easier for 176 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:06.839 Grand Theft Auto six to go from fall to early 177 00:08:06.879 --> 00:08:10.279 twenty twenty six. That seems to me that I'm almost 178 00:08:10.360 --> 00:08:12.759 expecting that. And if they you know, they don't have 179 00:08:12.800 --> 00:08:15.759 another delay, because right now they've not had a public delay. 180 00:08:15.800 --> 00:08:18.040 They've maybe like moved the game around a grand theft 181 00:08:18.040 --> 00:08:20.600 out of six internally, but they've said twenty twenty five 182 00:08:20.600 --> 00:08:21.439 and that's all they've all. 183 00:08:21.439 --> 00:08:21.959 They've said. 184 00:08:22.639 --> 00:08:25.160 Usually that game gets at least one public delay as well, 185 00:08:25.319 --> 00:08:27.519 So I you know that series, So. 186 00:08:27.480 --> 00:08:29.040 We'll we'll see. 187 00:08:29.800 --> 00:08:32.720 But yeah, I this lines up with what I was 188 00:08:32.799 --> 00:08:36.120 expecting from Nintendo after they said publicly in a financial 189 00:08:36.120 --> 00:08:39.799 report that they will announce the switch to this fiscal 190 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:43.799 year and so they'll talk about it, but that's all 191 00:08:43.840 --> 00:08:46.120 they've ever promised. And once they said that's okay, that 192 00:08:46.159 --> 00:08:47.840 means we'll probably get it like a little bit later 193 00:08:47.879 --> 00:08:51.159 this year, maybe even something in a trailer early next year, 194 00:08:51.639 --> 00:08:54.919 and then they will begin a marketing campaign that leads 195 00:08:54.960 --> 00:08:57.120 us easily beyond this fiscal. 196 00:08:56.840 --> 00:08:57.960 Year, which ends March thirty. 197 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:02.080 First things about the switch too, you know, always curious 198 00:09:02.200 --> 00:09:04.159 when we have this, when we have these conversations like 199 00:09:04.200 --> 00:09:08.279 where your expectations are for price for launch games? Where 200 00:09:08.279 --> 00:09:10.080 do you think Ninton is going to sort of lock 201 00:09:10.159 --> 00:09:11.840 in on a price for the switch. 202 00:09:11.600 --> 00:09:14.240 Too, I don't think they'll go too far away from 203 00:09:14.279 --> 00:09:16.200 what the switch came in at, like, which is what 204 00:09:16.320 --> 00:09:17.360 three hundreds. 205 00:09:17.159 --> 00:09:19.120 Right, The switch o let is three to fifty, right, 206 00:09:19.240 --> 00:09:20.679 So that gives them a little bit of that, gives 207 00:09:20.720 --> 00:09:22.960 them a little flexibility and maybe go a little higher, right, 208 00:09:23.000 --> 00:09:24.080 I'm expecting for that. 209 00:09:24.120 --> 00:09:26.039 I would I would say I would. Oh really, I 210 00:09:26.080 --> 00:09:28.240 was going to say lower. I was going to say 211 00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:33.440 three hundred, like to really lock in that more casual market. 212 00:09:33.919 --> 00:09:36.240 I mean, the online for three fifty is a great price. 213 00:09:37.480 --> 00:09:39.159 But that's that's the thing that we don't really know 214 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:40.759 anything about this machine, if it's going to be o 215 00:09:40.879 --> 00:09:44.000 led or not, if it's going to be Yeah, I 216 00:09:44.039 --> 00:09:47.879 don't know. I'm kind of hoping for a little on 217 00:09:47.919 --> 00:09:48.720 the lower side. 218 00:09:49.039 --> 00:09:51.600 I think it's possible when you say that, like, because 219 00:09:51.639 --> 00:09:53.120 if they do have it at three hundred, that would 220 00:09:53.159 --> 00:09:56.440 be as much as an Xbox Series S, which I 221 00:09:56.440 --> 00:09:58.759 don't think Nintendo cares about all that much. But uh, 222 00:09:59.080 --> 00:10:01.519 that would probably look really good and I think the 223 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:05.039 system would fly off the shelves at that price. I 224 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:07.200 think that the way I'm looking at is Nintendo has 225 00:10:07.240 --> 00:10:10.039 had a three hundred dollars switch and then instead of 226 00:10:10.039 --> 00:10:12.080 lowering the price on that thing. They have released a 227 00:10:12.120 --> 00:10:14.000 switch oh at a three fifty, so they are trying 228 00:10:14.000 --> 00:10:16.799 to edge up the price as like, kind of stealthily 229 00:10:17.000 --> 00:10:19.919 as they can. And I think that the reason that 230 00:10:19.960 --> 00:10:22.159 they have not lowered the switch is price even as 231 00:10:22.200 --> 00:10:25.399 they are missing targets in the system's eight year, eighth 232 00:10:25.519 --> 00:10:27.600 year where they said they would sell thirteen point five 233 00:10:27.639 --> 00:10:30.200 million units and they've they've missed that so far. They're 234 00:10:30.240 --> 00:10:33.519 not on pace they hit that, but no price cut yet. 235 00:10:34.080 --> 00:10:36.200 And I think the reason is because they want to 236 00:10:36.279 --> 00:10:40.279 maintain a high perceived value for these things so that 237 00:10:40.320 --> 00:10:43.120 they can have some flexibility to sell the next system 238 00:10:43.120 --> 00:10:43.879 for a little bit more. 239 00:10:45.000 --> 00:10:46.440 I think I was going to say, yeah, because like 240 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:51.120 the like their games never really lose value, right like. 241 00:10:51.120 --> 00:10:53.720 This generation especially, Yes, So. 242 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:56.600 Yeah, I mean, yeah, three hundred Maybe that's me being optimistic, 243 00:10:56.679 --> 00:10:59.279 but three to three to I. 244 00:10:59.240 --> 00:11:01.440 Think three or four hundre it is the range we're talking about. 245 00:11:01.559 --> 00:11:06.240 If it is four fifty five hundred them, we're being 246 00:11:06.320 --> 00:11:07.240 that's kind of silly. 247 00:11:07.320 --> 00:11:10.279 That's Steam Deck territory. 248 00:11:09.639 --> 00:11:12.600 Yeah, and it's you know, it's the other console's territory 249 00:11:12.639 --> 00:11:18.600 as well, and for as much as I prioritize the convenience. 250 00:11:18.200 --> 00:11:19.559 Of portability, I do. 251 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:22.399 I think that when you are putting a system on 252 00:11:22.519 --> 00:11:26.320 the market and you are presenting it to consumers, the 253 00:11:26.320 --> 00:11:29.600 thing that they're not thinking about, oh, it's so convenient 254 00:11:29.639 --> 00:11:31.320 to have the system with me at all times. 255 00:11:31.320 --> 00:11:32.039 Some people will be. 256 00:11:32.279 --> 00:11:34.080 But I think when people are making when they're doing 257 00:11:34.080 --> 00:11:36.519 comparison shopping, when they're trying to think is this thing 258 00:11:36.559 --> 00:11:39.200 worth that price, they're the number one thing they look 259 00:11:39.240 --> 00:11:41.120 at is how powerful is it? How good do the 260 00:11:41.159 --> 00:11:44.480 games look? How well is a third party game going 261 00:11:44.559 --> 00:11:46.240 to run? Call of Duty is going to be looking 262 00:11:46.240 --> 00:11:48.360 way way better on this system and it costs the 263 00:11:48.360 --> 00:11:52.480 same price as the new Nintendo Switch. That's weird, And 264 00:11:52.679 --> 00:11:55.279 so I think Nintendo wants to avoid those comparisons where possible. 265 00:11:55.320 --> 00:11:57.799 And I think you're right that the appeal to a 266 00:11:57.879 --> 00:12:00.799 more casual audience is still a priority, a priority for 267 00:12:00.879 --> 00:12:04.679 Nintendo because they've dominated selling games to families and they 268 00:12:04.679 --> 00:12:07.120 don't want to lose that. So I think that'll keep 269 00:12:07.159 --> 00:12:10.240 them anchored to the ground. At around four hundred and 270 00:12:10.240 --> 00:12:13.039 three fifty might be the sweet spot. Honestly, just keep 271 00:12:13.039 --> 00:12:15.679 it at three fifty. That's like no complaints there for me. 272 00:12:15.879 --> 00:12:18.039 Even if the system doesn't have an o LED screen 273 00:12:18.039 --> 00:12:20.679 at launch, then they'd release an OLEAD for four hundred 274 00:12:20.679 --> 00:12:23.840 down the line. I could easily see that happening. Yeah, 275 00:12:23.879 --> 00:12:27.120 all right, let's move along here. Valve's new game Deadlock 276 00:12:27.200 --> 00:12:30.600 has twenty thousand plus concurrent players despite not even being 277 00:12:30.679 --> 00:12:33.600 announced yet. This is from Peter Hegabal at Game Reactor. 278 00:12:34.159 --> 00:12:36.320 Upcoming Valve game Deadlock is said to be a mix 279 00:12:36.399 --> 00:12:39.799 between Overwatch and Vanguard, a Moba inspired hero shooter with 280 00:12:39.840 --> 00:12:42.279 aesthetics Barrow, let me turn on the headlines. I just 281 00:12:42.320 --> 00:12:47.519 saw someone highlighting that. There you go, everybody, upcoming Valve 282 00:12:47.600 --> 00:12:50.080 game Deadlock. Yes, it's a mixed between like Team Portress 283 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:53.480 two and Portal. But beyond the aesthetics are but beyond 284 00:12:53.600 --> 00:12:56.200 June's leak, we know nothing more than that. Despite this, 285 00:12:56.399 --> 00:12:58.159 and despite the fact that the game hasn't even been 286 00:12:58.200 --> 00:13:01.519 announced yet, it has twenty three three thousand peak concurrent 287 00:13:01.879 --> 00:13:05.039 players yesterday, which is remarkable to say the least. We 288 00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:07.840 can only assume that this gigantic alpha test also means 289 00:13:07.879 --> 00:13:10.720 that Valve is ready to show it off in full. Yeah, 290 00:13:10.840 --> 00:13:12.759 it seems like this game's got to be announced here 291 00:13:12.799 --> 00:13:17.159 pretty soon. I you know, we've seen sort of a 292 00:13:17.360 --> 00:13:20.159 a hubblebaloo about this game because The Verge wrote about 293 00:13:20.159 --> 00:13:20.759 it yesterday. 294 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:21.720 People freaked out. 295 00:13:21.720 --> 00:13:23.279 It's like, you're not supposed to write about it and 296 00:13:23.519 --> 00:13:26.519 you signed an NDA, which some games that. 297 00:13:26.440 --> 00:13:27.159 Do these, like. 298 00:13:28.879 --> 00:13:31.840 These early previews, do have that thing where it's like, 299 00:13:31.879 --> 00:13:33.799 if you agree, here's a bunch of legal texts, and 300 00:13:33.799 --> 00:13:35.399 if you agree to this to play to this, you 301 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:37.759 can't talk about it or there could be some legal action. 302 00:13:38.039 --> 00:13:39.720 This game doesn't have that. What it has is as 303 00:13:39.759 --> 00:13:41.960 a little message that says can't can't tell your friends, 304 00:13:42.000 --> 00:13:44.399 can't tell anybody about this, and that's all it says. 305 00:13:44.480 --> 00:13:47.320 Doesn't come at you with a threat of law. It 306 00:13:47.320 --> 00:13:49.919 doesn't come. It doesn't like there is definitely no NDA. 307 00:13:49.919 --> 00:13:52.240 You don't have to click anything. It doesn't say by 308 00:13:52.279 --> 00:13:55.200 playing this game you're agreeing to some contract. It's just 309 00:13:55.279 --> 00:13:57.919 a little message being like keep he keep it on 310 00:13:57.960 --> 00:14:02.279 the DL's it's silly. So whatever the game exists, twenty 311 00:14:02.320 --> 00:14:04.039 thousand people are playing it. What are we supposed to 312 00:14:04.080 --> 00:14:06.559 do at a certain point? But I think I get 313 00:14:06.559 --> 00:14:08.559 the sense that Valve is gonna announce this thing here 314 00:14:08.559 --> 00:14:09.039 pretty soon. 315 00:14:09.080 --> 00:14:10.600 What do you think? Who? 316 00:14:12.519 --> 00:14:14.440 I feel so stupid. I feel this is like the 317 00:14:14.480 --> 00:14:16.679 one thing I feel massively out of the loop because 318 00:14:17.039 --> 00:14:19.879 I must have I must have missed. Was it leaked? 319 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:21.440 It leaked in Juice, So. 320 00:14:21.480 --> 00:14:24.960 It leaked in June, and then since then, Yeah, we 321 00:14:24.960 --> 00:14:26.840 should cover this because I don't think you're not going 322 00:14:26.919 --> 00:14:29.559 to be alone in this and I would not have 323 00:14:29.679 --> 00:14:31.360 really been paying attention to this had I not gotten 324 00:14:31.360 --> 00:14:32.039 an invite. 325 00:14:32.559 --> 00:14:35.000 I also, let's say I got and invite yesterday. 326 00:14:35.159 --> 00:14:40.399 Yep, inteh, that's that's we'll go over like the timeline here. 327 00:14:40.440 --> 00:14:43.200 But the silliest thing about this idea that people can't 328 00:14:43.240 --> 00:14:45.200 like talk about this game because the Valve says you 329 00:14:45.200 --> 00:14:47.399 can't talk about it is the way that people are 330 00:14:47.399 --> 00:14:50.519 getting into the game is their friends are inviting them 331 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:52.039 through a system in the game. 332 00:14:52.279 --> 00:14:53.440 Like that is how it works. 333 00:14:53.519 --> 00:14:56.519 So just by the nature of what they've set up here, 334 00:14:56.679 --> 00:14:58.399 you are telling your friends about the game. 335 00:14:58.440 --> 00:14:59.080 It's crazy. 336 00:14:59.320 --> 00:15:03.080 But so, yeah, it was leaked in June, and it 337 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:07.399 was rumored to be a new first person shooter Moba 338 00:15:07.480 --> 00:15:10.919 hero shooter from Valve, so all those things that you 339 00:15:10.919 --> 00:15:13.879 can met like, yeah, there's gonna be characters with familiar powers. 340 00:15:13.960 --> 00:15:16.200 Someone's probably got ice powers and stuff like that, and 341 00:15:17.000 --> 00:15:21.480 so that's the leak. And then since then, Valve has 342 00:15:21.519 --> 00:15:26.159 started up this invite only alpha test that brings people 343 00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:29.399 in and that they can invite their friends, and it's 344 00:15:29.440 --> 00:15:31.960 just been growing sort of exponentially, and now we have 345 00:15:32.039 --> 00:15:35.399 twenty thousand people playing it each day and at any 346 00:15:35.440 --> 00:15:37.480 one time, so there's actually more people per. 347 00:15:37.360 --> 00:15:38.080 Day playing that. 348 00:15:39.759 --> 00:15:43.039 It is, you know, by all accounts, very much a 349 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:46.600 MOBA and very much a first person shooter that it 350 00:15:46.720 --> 00:15:51.600 like will have a lot of similarities to Valorant or 351 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:56.960 to Overwatch, but it's gonna have all that Valve shine 352 00:15:56.960 --> 00:15:59.080 on it likely, so it does seem like it has 353 00:15:59.080 --> 00:16:00.320 a good chance of dominating. 354 00:16:00.440 --> 00:16:01.240 And you know, they. 355 00:16:01.120 --> 00:16:03.200 Are the people that are like being coy about it 356 00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:06.120 on Twitter. I've seen being like, you know, Redacted is 357 00:16:06.200 --> 00:16:08.519 one of the best games I played since Overwatch. So 358 00:16:08.600 --> 00:16:11.480 people are having positive vibes about this thing. 359 00:16:11.840 --> 00:16:14.480 Well, what do you think Valve's strategy here is though? 360 00:16:14.480 --> 00:16:16.519 Like, do you I mean, do you think they really 361 00:16:16.519 --> 00:16:18.480 mind that people are so excited they can't help but 362 00:16:18.519 --> 00:16:19.440 talk about this game. 363 00:16:20.279 --> 00:16:22.759 Well, that's the thing, because they saw Tom Warren stuff. 364 00:16:22.840 --> 00:16:25.960 So Tom Warren wrote impressions up for The Verge, that's right, 365 00:16:26.080 --> 00:16:30.440 and then apparently he's now banned from matchmaking in the game. 366 00:16:30.879 --> 00:16:31.159 Yeah. 367 00:16:31.399 --> 00:16:32.960 I wonder if it's just a gamer, if it's in 368 00:16:33.120 --> 00:16:35.919 uh on Steam in a total, because I'm wonder if like, 369 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:37.720 does Valve have the ability to just block you from 370 00:16:37.720 --> 00:16:38.000 one game? 371 00:16:38.039 --> 00:16:38.600 They probably do. 372 00:16:40.080 --> 00:16:42.639 Yeah, yes, so they like they did like punish him 373 00:16:42.759 --> 00:16:43.919 for writing about the game. 374 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:44.919 Absolutely, it's weird. 375 00:16:45.720 --> 00:16:48.200 Yeah, oh sorry, So hang on, Tom didn't write the article, 376 00:16:48.200 --> 00:16:49.840 but it was whoever who wrote the article. I saw 377 00:16:49.879 --> 00:16:50.879 Tom was the one defending it. 378 00:16:50.960 --> 00:16:53.519 Yeah, yeah, because it's the Verge article and Tom's over 379 00:16:53.559 --> 00:16:57.360 at the Verge. Yeah, se Sean Hollster Okay. 380 00:16:57.240 --> 00:17:00.840 Yes, strange. 381 00:17:01.000 --> 00:17:03.559 I imagine that band's probably not gonna be permanent or 382 00:17:03.600 --> 00:17:06.079 anything because. 383 00:17:05.920 --> 00:17:09.640 Just this game ban apparently, and Miluk says it happens 384 00:17:09.640 --> 00:17:11.119 to everyone who posts screens. 385 00:17:11.440 --> 00:17:13.960 Okay, all right, so it's just kind of a normal 386 00:17:13.960 --> 00:17:16.880 thing here where they're like, okay, they'll stop you from 387 00:17:16.880 --> 00:17:18.839 playing the game to kind of slap you on the 388 00:17:18.880 --> 00:17:21.039 wrist a little bit. So if it's not like a 389 00:17:21.079 --> 00:17:23.640 Steam account band, like, they're not taking it too seriously. 390 00:17:25.359 --> 00:17:28.880 Either way, the game does seem ready. Yeah, it's weird, 391 00:17:28.880 --> 00:17:32.480 it's strange, and I think, I mean, it's building a 392 00:17:32.519 --> 00:17:36.599 mystique around the game right where. 393 00:17:35.799 --> 00:17:37.200 Everyone knows this thing exists. 394 00:17:37.319 --> 00:17:39.839 There's everyone you know is playing it except for you, 395 00:17:40.079 --> 00:17:41.599 and so you're, well, I got to go check it out, 396 00:17:41.640 --> 00:17:44.759 like like that's uh. It feels like a marketing strategy, 397 00:17:45.160 --> 00:17:48.160 and I guess fair play to them. But then when 398 00:17:48.200 --> 00:17:51.880 someone writes about it, people should not run to the 399 00:17:51.920 --> 00:17:54.680 defense of Valve and being like that this precious marketing 400 00:17:54.720 --> 00:17:56.799 strategy must be protected at all costs. 401 00:17:56.920 --> 00:17:57.880