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Speaker 2: Let's do this for August fourteenth to twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: For the next hour or so, let me help you
Speaker 2: sort through the world of gaming on Games Mornings Live
Speaker 2: with me Jeff Grubb. Today we got news about the
Speaker 2: switch to that game that Valve doesn't want anyone to
Speaker 2: talk about, and.
Speaker 1: An interesting game getting delayed.
Speaker 2: But first, please join me and welcoming today's co host
Speaker 2: to Game mess Mornings.
Speaker 1: It's Lucy James. Everybody, Lucy, how are you doing?
Speaker 3: Hello? I'm doing all right, Thank you. I was just
Speaker 3: thinking this is my last show for a couple weeks
Speaker 3: because I'm going two games Tom.
Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, we got some games common news. We're talking
Speaker 2: like there seems like it's going to be a pretty
Speaker 2: decent show. I'm gonna be able to see some fun stuff.
Speaker 2: I think Opening Night Live is going to be a
Speaker 2: good time. So, yeah, you've been to games Com a
Speaker 2: bunch of times, right, Like as a veteran, what's like,
Speaker 2: what is your go to like making sure you have
Speaker 2: a good show over there.
Speaker 3: I think this is my tenth games called Yeah, so
Speaker 3: in the UK you go all the time because it's
Speaker 3: such a it's just a hop over the pond. My
Speaker 3: go to honestly shower more times than you think you
Speaker 3: need to because it's so hot over there. Last year,
Speaker 3: I think I averaged two point three showers. Okay, good day.
Speaker 2: Right, there was a couple of days where there were
Speaker 2: three showers, but at least two showers a day.
Speaker 3: At least two showers a day. Yeah, because it's so
Speaker 3: it's so hot. Sure, I love games because it's massive.
Speaker 2: Dan and Mike are worried that the hotel won't have
Speaker 2: air conditioning. Is that a concern that they should have a.
Speaker 3: I think he has that conditioning. Whose hotels have that conditioning?
Speaker 3: H It's like people's houses don't have that condition right.
Speaker 1: Well, Dan is in a hotel in London right now.
Speaker 2: Can't sleep at night because it doesn't have air conditioning,
Speaker 2: I guess, or it doesn't work very well, one one
Speaker 2: or the other. Uh So, But that's you know, that's
Speaker 2: not Games, that's not Cologne. That's it's not like going
Speaker 2: for a big industry event.
Speaker 3: It probably has I was goo. I think I think
Speaker 3: it would be fine also, I mean, yeah, the hotel
Speaker 3: that I stayed in last year was a car a
Speaker 3: race car themed hotel, so okay, when you got in
Speaker 3: the left it would make like a room noise.
Speaker 1: So well, that's incredible.
Speaker 3: That's it was pretty it was so hopefully Donna's staying there.
Speaker 3: I don't think is, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that'd be ideal for Dan, big race car guy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm excited for you all. I wish I was able
Speaker 2: to come next time. I've never been to games Com,
Speaker 2: so uh, I would like to make that happen sometime.
Speaker 2: And I don't think I don't know if Dan's been,
Speaker 2: but b know Mike hasn't been, So you guys can
Speaker 2: show them a good time, yes, and you guys come
Speaker 2: back to some fun stuff and we'll put it all
Speaker 2: the site. I think I really like that. The general
Speaker 2: idea of Giant Bomb on the road doing bombcasts from
Speaker 2: Germany and all that stuff, a voicemail dump truck from Germany.
Speaker 2: That's a really good time. So people should definitely tune
Speaker 2: in next week for a lot of fun stuff. And
Speaker 2: then for the home crew we'll be doing Opening Night
Speaker 2: Live and.
Speaker 1: All that good stuff.
Speaker 2: We'll talk over it and make sure that people can
Speaker 2: keep up with what's going on as best we can.
Speaker 2: Well have game Mess Mornings as well, so definitely tune in.
Speaker 1: For all that. Yeah, but when do you take do
Speaker 1: you like leave like on on the weekend? Next sunks,
Speaker 1: it's tuesdays when things go. Let's get started, right, what.
Speaker 3: I leave on Monday and I get that Tuesday morning?
Speaker 3: So snap, okay, getna need to figure that out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, good luck with that you guys. I will
Speaker 2: have a good time, I'm sure though, Well you know,
Speaker 2: it's just go there and have a good time.
Speaker 1: That's mostly what it's gonna be about. For Giant Bomb,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure you're busy with a bunch.
Speaker 2: Of other stuff, but for the Giant Bob stuff, just
Speaker 2: make it fun. All right, Let's explain what we do
Speaker 2: here most weekdays. I, Jeff Grubb, will help piece your
Speaker 2: gaming life back together. That includes breaking news and maybe
Speaker 2: even some of our own original reporting. For all these topics,
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Speaker 2: Hello YouTube, all right, we have a lot to get into,
Speaker 2: so let's start the morning mess with Switch to is
Speaker 2: not coming before April twenty twenty five. Devs reportedly say
Speaker 2: this is from Luis Joshua Gudrierez at GameSpot. A number
Speaker 2: of developers believe the next Nintendo console may not be
Speaker 2: released until well into twenty twenty five. While speaking on
Speaker 2: the GI podcast Games Industry of a podcast, journalist Christopher
Speaker 2: Dring sought to clear up a popular rumor that Nintendo
Speaker 2: successor to the Switch may be released by the end
Speaker 2: of the fiscal year, which ends on March thirty first,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. No developer I have spoken to expects
Speaker 2: it to launch in this financial year. In fact, they've
Speaker 2: been told not to expect it in this financial year.
Speaker 2: A bunch of people I spoke to hope it's out
Speaker 2: still in April or May, so I guess kind of
Speaker 2: puts like like a little question mark on what they're
Speaker 2: being told not this financial year, but they're not getting
Speaker 2: any other information beyond that. According to these developers who
Speaker 2: spoke to Christopher Dring, so does it April or May launch?
Speaker 2: For a switch to sound right to you, or do
Speaker 2: you expect it to slip further into twenty twenty five?
Speaker 3: Sons right to me. I mean switch was what April seventeen.
Speaker 1: It was like March April?
Speaker 3: Yeah, March April.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds like March, I think, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: So, I mean that timeframe kind of makes sense to
Speaker 3: me if it comes at the end of the financial
Speaker 3: year or in the next one, that can that yeah
Speaker 3: around that makes sense to me, Like I feel it
Speaker 3: was March when shaing, Yeah, that makes sense to me.
Speaker 3: It feels weird, like I can barely think about what's
Speaker 3: happening next week alone next year.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2: But it also feels like as we get to you know,
Speaker 2: we're in August, it's going to be September soon. It'd
Speaker 2: be weird if like that system, like I have a
Speaker 2: certain point it was like March. It seems impossible because
Speaker 2: it's just like that's so soon now, like we're almost
Speaker 2: to the point where that's only six months away, and
Speaker 2: yet that's kind of the timeframe they operated on with
Speaker 2: the Switch one. But I just don't know they're going
Speaker 2: to be able to repeat that because they are going
Speaker 2: to keep trying to sell the switch, and they were
Speaker 2: not continuing to sell the WEU. But regardless, I mean,
Speaker 2: they know they want to get the system out. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of financial reasons that they want to get
Speaker 2: it out in terms of the Switch. One is slowing
Speaker 2: down the switch to they want to have kind of
Speaker 2: a peaceful transfer of power there and just kind of
Speaker 2: keep as much momentum going as possible. But I think
Speaker 2: they're also in a world where, you know, if it
Speaker 2: is like, oh, suddenly it's coming out in May, like yeah,
Speaker 2: you could release a new video game system in May,
Speaker 2: but I think once you get in the summer months,
Speaker 2: I think Nintendo, even Nintendo would be a little bit
Speaker 2: more hesitant about that. Like I don't think June July
Speaker 2: release really is on the table, and I think that
Speaker 2: would then make it so they'd be like, Okay, never mind,
Speaker 2: we'll just wait until the fall.
Speaker 1: We'll put it out in September or something like that.
Speaker 2: So I think it's there's a chance to come out
Speaker 2: in April and May, but if I'm Nintendo, I could
Speaker 2: easily see them making the decision to slip.
Speaker 1: It later in the year, very easily.
Speaker 2: But either way, like it's going to dominate next year.
Speaker 2: One of the things that Dring said is that he's
Speaker 2: worried about the switch to coming out, or the developers
Speaker 2: are worried about the switch to coming out at the
Speaker 2: same time as Grand Theft Auto six, because they're like,
Speaker 2: that would be just a mad crunch that no one
Speaker 2: would know how to handle, so they're going to try
Speaker 2: to avoid that. But I don't think Nintendo would care
Speaker 2: about that, right, No.
Speaker 3: I think out of anyone who would care about it,
Speaker 3: Nintendo's are probably the people who don't care. I mean
Speaker 3: Nintendo historically obviously moving towards the family market. GTA definitely
Speaker 3: doesn't aim to be part of the family market, but
Speaker 3: the kids love it anyway, I think. No, Yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean that's you know, depending on if GTA hits Fall.
Speaker 3: I know they said in the recent earning support that
Speaker 3: they were still on track, but anything can happen in
Speaker 3: the next year.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think as easy as it would be
Speaker 2: for the switch to to slip into the holidays season
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty five, I think it's even easier for
Speaker 2: Grand Theft Auto six to go from fall to early
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. That seems to me that I'm almost
Speaker 2: expecting that. And if they you know, they don't have
Speaker 2: another delay, because right now they've not had a public delay.
Speaker 2: They've maybe like moved the game around a grand theft
Speaker 2: out of six internally, but they've said twenty twenty five
Speaker 2: and that's all they've all.
Speaker 1: They've said.
Speaker 2: Usually that game gets at least one public delay as well,
Speaker 2: So I you know that series, So.
Speaker 1: We'll we'll see.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I this lines up with what I was
Speaker 2: expecting from Nintendo after they said publicly in a financial
Speaker 2: report that they will announce the switch to this fiscal
Speaker 2: year and so they'll talk about it, but that's all
Speaker 2: they've ever promised. And once they said that's okay, that
Speaker 2: means we'll probably get it like a little bit later
Speaker 2: this year, maybe even something in a trailer early next year,
Speaker 2: and then they will begin a marketing campaign that leads
Speaker 2: us easily beyond this fiscal.
Speaker 1: Year, which ends March thirty.
Speaker 2: First things about the switch too, you know, always curious
Speaker 2: when we have this, when we have these conversations like
Speaker 2: where your expectations are for price for launch games? Where
Speaker 2: do you think Ninton is going to sort of lock
Speaker 2: in on a price for the switch.
Speaker 3: Too, I don't think they'll go too far away from
Speaker 3: what the switch came in at, like, which is what
Speaker 3: three hundreds.
Speaker 2: Right, The switch o let is three to fifty, right,
Speaker 2: So that gives them a little bit of that, gives
Speaker 2: them a little flexibility and maybe go a little higher, right,
Speaker 2: I'm expecting for that.
Speaker 3: I would I would say I would. Oh really, I
Speaker 3: was going to say lower. I was going to say
Speaker 3: three hundred, like to really lock in that more casual market.
Speaker 3: I mean, the online for three fifty is a great price.
Speaker 3: But that's that's the thing that we don't really know
Speaker 3: anything about this machine, if it's going to be o
Speaker 3: led or not, if it's going to be Yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't know. I'm kind of hoping for a little on
Speaker 3: the lower side.
Speaker 2: I think it's possible when you say that, like, because
Speaker 2: if they do have it at three hundred, that would
Speaker 2: be as much as an Xbox Series S, which I
Speaker 2: don't think Nintendo cares about all that much. But uh,
Speaker 2: that would probably look really good and I think the
Speaker 2: system would fly off the shelves at that price. I
Speaker 2: think that the way I'm looking at is Nintendo has
Speaker 2: had a three hundred dollars switch and then instead of
Speaker 2: lowering the price on that thing. They have released a
Speaker 2: switch oh at a three fifty, so they are trying
Speaker 2: to edge up the price as like, kind of stealthily
Speaker 2: as they can. And I think that the reason that
Speaker 2: they have not lowered the switch is price even as
Speaker 2: they are missing targets in the system's eight year, eighth
Speaker 2: year where they said they would sell thirteen point five
Speaker 2: million units and they've they've missed that so far. They're
Speaker 2: not on pace they hit that, but no price cut yet.
Speaker 2: And I think the reason is because they want to
Speaker 2: maintain a high perceived value for these things so that
Speaker 2: they can have some flexibility to sell the next system
Speaker 2: for a little bit more.
Speaker 3: I think I was going to say, yeah, because like
Speaker 3: the like their games never really lose value, right like.
Speaker 1: This generation especially, Yes, So.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, yeah, three hundred Maybe that's me being optimistic,
Speaker 3: but three to three to I.
Speaker 1: Think three or four hundre it is the range we're talking about.
Speaker 2: If it is four fifty five hundred them, we're being
Speaker 2: that's kind of silly.
Speaker 3: That's Steam Deck territory.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's you know, it's the other console's territory
Speaker 2: as well, and for as much as I prioritize the convenience.
Speaker 1: Of portability, I do.
Speaker 2: I think that when you are putting a system on
Speaker 2: the market and you are presenting it to consumers, the
Speaker 2: thing that they're not thinking about, oh, it's so convenient
Speaker 2: to have the system with me at all times.
Speaker 1: Some people will be.
Speaker 2: But I think when people are making when they're doing
Speaker 2: comparison shopping, when they're trying to think is this thing
Speaker 2: worth that price, they're the number one thing they look
Speaker 2: at is how powerful is it? How good do the
Speaker 2: games look? How well is a third party game going
Speaker 2: to run? Call of Duty is going to be looking
Speaker 2: way way better on this system and it costs the
Speaker 2: same price as the new Nintendo Switch. That's weird, And
Speaker 2: so I think Nintendo wants to avoid those comparisons where possible.
Speaker 2: And I think you're right that the appeal to a
Speaker 2: more casual audience is still a priority, a priority for
Speaker 2: Nintendo because they've dominated selling games to families and they
Speaker 2: don't want to lose that. So I think that'll keep
Speaker 2: them anchored to the ground. At around four hundred and
Speaker 2: three fifty might be the sweet spot. Honestly, just keep
Speaker 2: it at three fifty. That's like no complaints there for me.
Speaker 2: Even if the system doesn't have an o LED screen
Speaker 2: at launch, then they'd release an OLEAD for four hundred
Speaker 2: down the line. I could easily see that happening. Yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, let's move along here. Valve's new game Deadlock
Speaker 2: has twenty thousand plus concurrent players despite not even being
Speaker 2: announced yet. This is from Peter Hegabal at Game Reactor.
Speaker 2: Upcoming Valve game Deadlock is said to be a mix
Speaker 2: between Overwatch and Vanguard, a Moba inspired hero shooter with
Speaker 2: aesthetics Barrow, let me turn on the headlines. I just
Speaker 2: saw someone highlighting that. There you go, everybody, upcoming Valve
Speaker 2: game Deadlock. Yes, it's a mixed between like Team Portress
Speaker 2: two and Portal. But beyond the aesthetics are but beyond
Speaker 2: June's leak, we know nothing more than that. Despite this,
Speaker 2: and despite the fact that the game hasn't even been
Speaker 2: announced yet, it has twenty three three thousand peak concurrent
Speaker 2: players yesterday, which is remarkable to say the least. We
Speaker 2: can only assume that this gigantic alpha test also means
Speaker 2: that Valve is ready to show it off in full. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it seems like this game's got to be announced here
Speaker 2: pretty soon. I you know, we've seen sort of a
Speaker 2: a hubblebaloo about this game because The Verge wrote about
Speaker 2: it yesterday.
Speaker 1: People freaked out.
Speaker 2: It's like, you're not supposed to write about it and
Speaker 2: you signed an NDA, which some games that.
Speaker 1: Do these, like.
Speaker 2: These early previews, do have that thing where it's like,
Speaker 2: if you agree, here's a bunch of legal texts, and
Speaker 2: if you agree to this to play to this, you
Speaker 2: can't talk about it or there could be some legal action.
Speaker 2: This game doesn't have that. What it has is as
Speaker 2: a little message that says can't can't tell your friends,
Speaker 2: can't tell anybody about this, and that's all it says.
Speaker 2: Doesn't come at you with a threat of law. It
Speaker 2: doesn't come. It doesn't like there is definitely no NDA.
Speaker 2: You don't have to click anything. It doesn't say by
Speaker 2: playing this game you're agreeing to some contract. It's just
Speaker 2: a little message being like keep he keep it on
Speaker 2: the DL's it's silly. So whatever the game exists, twenty
Speaker 2: thousand people are playing it. What are we supposed to
Speaker 2: do at a certain point? But I think I get
Speaker 2: the sense that Valve is gonna announce this thing here
Speaker 2: pretty soon.
Speaker 1: What do you think? Who?
Speaker 3: I feel so stupid. I feel this is like the
Speaker 3: one thing I feel massively out of the loop because
Speaker 3: I must have I must have missed. Was it leaked?
Speaker 3: It leaked in Juice, So.
Speaker 2: It leaked in June, and then since then, Yeah, we
Speaker 2: should cover this because I don't think you're not going
Speaker 2: to be alone in this and I would not have
Speaker 2: really been paying attention to this had I not gotten
Speaker 2: an invite.
Speaker 3: I also, let's say I got and invite yesterday.
Speaker 2: Yep, inteh, that's that's we'll go over like the timeline here.
Speaker 2: But the silliest thing about this idea that people can't
Speaker 2: like talk about this game because the Valve says you
Speaker 2: can't talk about it is the way that people are
Speaker 2: getting into the game is their friends are inviting them
Speaker 2: through a system in the game.
Speaker 1: Like that is how it works.
Speaker 2: So just by the nature of what they've set up here,
Speaker 2: you are telling your friends about the game.
Speaker 1: It's crazy.
Speaker 2: But so, yeah, it was leaked in June, and it
Speaker 2: was rumored to be a new first person shooter Moba
Speaker 2: hero shooter from Valve, so all those things that you
Speaker 2: can met like, yeah, there's gonna be characters with familiar powers.
Speaker 2: Someone's probably got ice powers and stuff like that, and
Speaker 2: so that's the leak. And then since then, Valve has
Speaker 2: started up this invite only alpha test that brings people
Speaker 2: in and that they can invite their friends, and it's
Speaker 2: just been growing sort of exponentially, and now we have
Speaker 2: twenty thousand people playing it each day and at any
Speaker 2: one time, so there's actually more people per.
Speaker 1: Day playing that.
Speaker 2: It is, you know, by all accounts, very much a
Speaker 2: MOBA and very much a first person shooter that it
Speaker 2: like will have a lot of similarities to Valorant or
Speaker 2: to Overwatch, but it's gonna have all that Valve shine
Speaker 2: on it likely, so it does seem like it has
Speaker 2: a good chance of dominating.
Speaker 1: And you know, they.
Speaker 2: Are the people that are like being coy about it
Speaker 2: on Twitter. I've seen being like, you know, Redacted is
Speaker 2: one of the best games I played since Overwatch. So
Speaker 2: people are having positive vibes about this thing.
Speaker 1: Well, what do you think Valve's strategy here is though?
Speaker 2: Like, do you I mean, do you think they really
Speaker 2: mind that people are so excited they can't help but
Speaker 2: talk about this game.
Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing, because they saw Tom Warren stuff.
Speaker 3: So Tom Warren wrote impressions up for The Verge, that's right,
Speaker 3: and then apparently he's now banned from matchmaking in the game.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I wonder if it's just a gamer, if it's in
Speaker 2: uh on Steam in a total, because I'm wonder if like,
Speaker 2: does Valve have the ability to just block you from
Speaker 2: one game?
Speaker 1: They probably do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, so they like they did like punish him
Speaker 2: for writing about the game.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's weird.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh sorry, So hang on, Tom didn't write the article,
Speaker 3: but it was whoever who wrote the article. I saw
Speaker 3: Tom was the one defending it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because it's the Verge article and Tom's over
Speaker 2: at the Verge. Yeah, se Sean Hollster Okay.
Speaker 1: Yes, strange.
Speaker 2: I imagine that band's probably not gonna be permanent or
Speaker 2: anything because.
Speaker 3: Just this game ban apparently, and Miluk says it happens
Speaker 3: to everyone who posts screens.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so it's just kind of a normal
Speaker 2: thing here where they're like, okay, they'll stop you from
Speaker 2: playing the game to kind of slap you on the
Speaker 2: wrist a little bit. So if it's not like a
Speaker 2: Steam account band, like, they're not taking it too seriously.
Speaker 2: Either way, the game does seem ready. Yeah, it's weird,
Speaker 2: it's strange, and I think, I mean, it's building a
Speaker 2: mystique around the game right where.
Speaker 1: Everyone knows this thing exists.
Speaker 2: There's everyone you know is playing it except for you,
Speaker 2: and so you're, well, I got to go check it out,
Speaker 2: like like that's uh. It feels like a marketing strategy,
Speaker 2: and I guess fair play to them. But then when
Speaker 2: someone writes about it, people should not run to the
Speaker 2: defense of Valve and being like that this precious marketing
Speaker 2: strategy must be protected at all costs.
Speaker 1: Let's get real people.
Speaker 2: But hey, you're allowed to feel however you want to feel,
Speaker 2: and I'm allowed to think you're being an absurd.
Speaker 1: Baby child if that's how you feel about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god, my morning.
Speaker 1: It looks great, looking great? Had it?
Speaker 3: Thanks? I don't know. Whole things are just a very
Speaker 3: weird rollout, very very strange to see the kind of
Speaker 3: back and forth on it. I think maybe you know,
Speaker 3: do what you want to do. I just don't think
Speaker 3: I'm going to spend any of my energy.
Speaker 2: And if people are curious, you can watch people just
Speaker 2: fucking streaming the thing on TikTok at YouTube and Twitch
Speaker 2: all the time. I'm not sure exactly what category you
Speaker 2: find it under, but people have been reporting that you
Speaker 2: can watch people stream it every day, so.
Speaker 1: It's out there.
Speaker 2: Uh, all right, let's keep going. Games Calm Opening Night
Speaker 2: Live will include new game announcements. This is from Tom
Speaker 2: Ivan at VGC games Com. Opening Night Live will include
Speaker 2: new game announcements as well as updates I'm previously revealed titles.
Speaker 2: That's according to show host and producer Jeff Keeley, who
Speaker 2: used Twitter on Tuesday to tease plans for next week's event.
Speaker 2: Some of the previously announced games set to be featured
Speaker 2: include Call of Duty, Black Ops six, Monster Hunter, Wild's
Speaker 2: Indiana Jones, and The Great Circle. Sid Meier's Civilization Civilization seven.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Sevenalization is what I wanted to say there for some reason, Marvel, right.
Speaker 3: But Sevenalization works. I think you should make it and then.
Speaker 2: Well's okay, that's what we're calling it from now on, everybody,
Speaker 2: uh and do an awakening. These are the games that
Speaker 2: have been confirmed to like make an appearance here. But
Speaker 2: he also said yes, there will also be new game announcements.
Speaker 2: Uh in a follow up post. That's not even something
Speaker 2: that he was like promising too much of at Summer
Speaker 2: Game Fest, games Calm, Opening Night Live has always been
Speaker 2: sort of it goes. Honestly, it's like a lot of
Speaker 2: Achille shows, except for the Game Game the Game Awards,
Speaker 2: which seems to always get big hit big hitters Summer
Speaker 2: Game Fest.
Speaker 1: Opening Night Live just kind of rises with the tide.
Speaker 2: Right If there are lots of games waiting to, uh
Speaker 2: like make their big public debut, the show does really
Speaker 2: well with that stuff. And if there's not, there's nothing
Speaker 2: that Killy can do about it. So sounds like some
Speaker 2: people are getting ready to some studios getting ready to
Speaker 2: announce some things and it lined up with Opening Night Live.
Speaker 1: What are your expectation levels for this show are you?
Speaker 2: Do you get excited for Opening Night Live or you
Speaker 2: kind of might try to keep things in check to
Speaker 2: be like, listen, I'm happy to just have updates on
Speaker 2: things that have already been announced.
Speaker 3: I think Opening Night Live and as well Summer Game First,
Speaker 3: for me, are exciting in a different way than the
Speaker 3: Game Like the Game Awards is the big hitters, right
Speaker 3: is the big big stuff is at the end of
Speaker 3: the year, and so I kind of keep my expectations
Speaker 3: in check for what Opening NightLive and even Summer game
Speaker 3: first are you going to be? I always think Jeff
Speaker 3: puts on a good show, and like you said, it's
Speaker 3: not up to him when development cycles aligne or marketing
Speaker 3: strategies aligned with shows. I mean, obviously devs and publishers
Speaker 3: and marketers are looking at the calendar and being like, hey,
Speaker 3: when is the best place to release something, release a
Speaker 3: new asset or a trailer. I'm intrigued by it. I
Speaker 3: also wonder because I mean, I don't I think I
Speaker 3: just landed and I went to sleep straight away at
Speaker 3: Opening Night Live last year, so I didn't actually watch
Speaker 3: it live. But there is kind of a different vibe
Speaker 3: about games, like games Come used to be you would
Speaker 3: have it. Used to be you'd have E three in June,
Speaker 3: and then you would have all of these showcases and
Speaker 3: then you'd have even more of them. You'd like you
Speaker 3: have PlayStation whoever would do it again it games come,
Speaker 3: So games Come as always kind of felt like, oh
Speaker 3: it's another event. It's you know, it's never going to
Speaker 3: be as big as what E three was. And now
Speaker 3: I think the E three hype train has moved into
Speaker 3: into gamerwolds.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and it feels like it like spread hype, right, like.
Speaker 3: The amount of hype it's just spread out throughout the years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, all right, all the stuff that would have
Speaker 2: been focused on E three is now like mostly fizzled
Speaker 2: into Summer Game Fest, but some of that has also
Speaker 2: spilled over.
Speaker 1: Into Opening Night Live.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I think a lot of developers and publishers
Speaker 2: are probably welcoming that because gives them a few more
Speaker 2: options to select where they are going to line up
Speaker 2: these things, because it's got it had to be a
Speaker 2: pain back in the day to make these assets, and
Speaker 2: today it's got to be a tremendous challenge to be like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: let's get this development team to come over here and
Speaker 2: spend two months, probably a lot more than that getting
Speaker 2: something ready for E three because E three is gonna happen.
Speaker 2: When it happens, it's like, now, well if we miss that,
Speaker 2: Keighley's got two other things later this year, and we
Speaker 2: could probably get in there because we have a good
Speaker 2: relationship with one of these big studios and it's not
Speaker 2: gonna cost us a lot of money to be in
Speaker 2: the show now. Also, Lexi's pointing out, like attending games
Speaker 2: come a lot more affordable than maybe even like summer
Speaker 2: game fests and some other stuff like that. So that
Speaker 2: also makes sense to be like, that's why a lot
Speaker 2: of these companies are probably going to be showing their
Speaker 2: games off to the press there. And I think that
Speaker 2: is excellent as well, because we are getting to that
Speaker 2: point of the year now where some of these games
Speaker 2: are just gonna be here before we know it. Indiana
Speaker 2: Jones is one of the bigger ones that'll probably get
Speaker 2: like a release date and stuff like that. Oh so yeah,
Speaker 2: it was about time. But beyond that, like in terms
Speaker 2: of the new game announcements, Lucy, it is like, where
Speaker 2: are your expectation levels for those specifically, Like if you
Speaker 2: have any guesses, feel free, but like, are you expecting
Speaker 2: the biggest of the big games where it's like, oh
Speaker 2: so maybe some surprises, maybe some indie games that'll be exciting.
Speaker 1: What do you think?
Speaker 3: I think surprises. I think a mix of indies and
Speaker 3: I think of and I think a mix of like
Speaker 3: it's something interesting that we maybe haven't like suspected for
Speaker 3: a while. I also wonder if these if these are
Speaker 3: going to be games that are more cater towards like
Speaker 3: the European market, just obviously because given the proximity to
Speaker 3: games come things like obviously simulator games, et cetera. As
Speaker 3: strategy games tend to do better in Europe. Obviously, they
Speaker 3: have their fans over in America. Don't get me wrong,
Speaker 3: but like, you know, I don't think everyone would be I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, I want to say, there's usually like a farming
Speaker 2: simulator booth at games Com, right.
Speaker 3: Oh, no, there is. So a few years ago when
Speaker 3: I was a games comm Angela Merkel was there and
Speaker 3: she was at the farming simular. She was at the
Speaker 3: farming simpols.
Speaker 1: Oh that rules.
Speaker 2: So I don't know Engl Merkel, former Leader of the
Speaker 2: Free World. Everybody. Yeah, I still want to go to
Speaker 2: games Com. That's kind of stuff that makes you want
Speaker 2: to go. I think they didn't they have like those
Speaker 2: giant tractors or whatever they're called, comas compresses whatever, combines.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Combine Harvesters, thank you, James.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Combine Harvester Weekly Reader. Lucy James over here, Lucy Grains.
Speaker 2: It's a Lucy games There we go, all right, games
Speaker 2: cob coverage. We'll be coming on this site on game
Speaker 2: spots to stick around for all of that we'll have
Speaker 2: plenty to talk about. I'm sure. I again very excited
Speaker 2: to hear everyone's reports from the ground. The tentative plan
Speaker 2: for the talkover is I'll get some some chuckle fucks together,
Speaker 2: we'll get me back law, We'll probably have Sean Nikky,
Speaker 2: we'll see who's available. We'll talk over it. But as
Speaker 2: it wraps, we'll try to get you all in on
Speaker 2: discord and you can patch you Santa te Us what
Speaker 2: your thoughts are worth it from the ground.
Speaker 1: So and then yeah, lots.
Speaker 3: Of if I'm awake at that point, exactly who island
Speaker 3: at tenth in the morning, am, odds are on me
Speaker 3: being awake until ten at night.
Speaker 2: Jacobs to take a picture of you before you go
Speaker 2: to bed, and you could just hold that up while
Speaker 2: he's while he's talking, because I won't let Jane go
Speaker 2: to sleep.
Speaker 3: So there you go, just the saddest person in Germany
Speaker 3: with me.
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a quick break when we get back,
Speaker 2: some other announcements, and I'm gonna be like kind of
Speaker 2: sad about this crow movie looks really bad. It's gonna
Speaker 2: be in call of duty. Well right back after this,
Speaker 2: all right, we are back and let's talk about a
Speaker 2: delay for Replaced, which is now coming in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: This is from Sal Ramano at Kamatsu publisher Coach Sync
Speaker 2: and developer Sad Cat Studios have delayed science fiction retro
Speaker 2: futuristic action platform or Replaced from its previously planned twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four release window to twenty twenty five. It will
Speaker 2: still be available on Xbox and PlayStation piece Oh no, Xbox, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's right. It's Xbox series, Xbox One and PC and
Speaker 2: the Epic Game Store, and it will be available through
Speaker 2: Epic Game Pass. I think Microsoft's helping out. So maybe
Speaker 2: it's not on PlayStation or switch at first.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was in the isn't that.
Speaker 1: You're breaking up a little bit? Lucy? Start that one again.
Speaker 1: I think you're back now. So it was in what
Speaker 1: now right Replaced?
Speaker 3: Oh okay, isn't that Bok showcase right replaced? Or was
Speaker 3: it in some I forget?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was one of those I can't remember.
Speaker 2: I can't remember exactly was, but I do remember, like
Speaker 2: I remember seeing it, like, oh yeah, this game was
Speaker 2: announced a long time ago, I think, and it looked
Speaker 2: really stunny and I got some video I'll bring up
Speaker 2: here for everybody here, and then let me just get
Speaker 2: that going.
Speaker 1: Uh. It still looks really great. I'm very excited.
Speaker 2: About this, but it's also one of those that seems
Speaker 2: like it needs as much time as possible because these
Speaker 2: indie studios that have this level of perfection that they're
Speaker 2: going for, they have a vision, they want to nail it,
Speaker 2: and this thing has a ton of style, and I
Speaker 2: think if they do get everything right, it has the
Speaker 2: chance to be a breakout hit, I think, so I
Speaker 2: don't blame them there. I think there were some reviews
Speaker 2: recently that mentioned, hey, it it is very cool, but
Speaker 2: performance isn't great, So they're to the concern.
Speaker 3: There some game first it was it was next to
Speaker 3: Stalker right on the show floor.
Speaker 2: I remember that, yes, so uh yeah, where that makes
Speaker 2: sense because those are both both Xbox things. So ye, Lucy,
Speaker 2: I think we're losing you again. You there, Okay, I'll
Speaker 2: keep I'll.
Speaker 3: Keep trudging along, dude, keep keep going, yep, I'll keep
Speaker 3: Can I leaven come back as I can mess you?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? No, You're fine, go ahead and do that right now.
Speaker 2: You're all good. Oh man, there's Curby, So let's go
Speaker 2: over here, all right, let's I'm gonna actually just hit
Speaker 2: this next one. The Crow is coming to Call of
Speaker 2: Duty next week. This is from Tom Ivan at VGC
Speaker 2: Activision has begun teasing a Call of Duty crossover with
Speaker 2: the Crow, confirming an earlier week. The video below suggests
Speaker 2: an operator based on the Crow will be released from
Speaker 2: Modern Warfare three and war Zone on August twenty second,
Speaker 2: as part of Call of Duty Season five reload.
Speaker 1: Oh there we go, let's see here. Okay, Lucy, have
Speaker 1: you seen the preview for this new The.
Speaker 3: Crow doesn't look good, does it?
Speaker 2: It doesn't look very good. And that's really I think
Speaker 2: the big problem is it. Listen, it looks better than
Speaker 2: a lot of the sequels to the original Crow. But
Speaker 2: and the Edward Furlong. I think Edward Furlong did a Crow.
Speaker 1: Maybe someone did a Crow movie. It was really bad,
Speaker 1: But that character is so iconic for me.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, And I think, like kind of maybe they
Speaker 2: given the generation right before me, like a very gen
Speaker 2: X like icon and they just don't have the juice
Speaker 2: for this new movie at all with it when it
Speaker 2: comes to that. So I saw this headline the Crow
Speaker 2: is coming to Call of Duty. Fantastic. I love the
Speaker 2: Crow and then I remember it. Oh it's the New
Speaker 2: Crow with Bill Scars guard and I'm one of the
Speaker 2: Scars guards.
Speaker 3: I don't know, and uh yeah, which, yeah they are
Speaker 3: remake you Crow, remake Scars is Bill an fk fka
Speaker 3: Twigs is in it? That guy from Danny Houston who
Speaker 3: was in Black Maras in it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It seems like it has a sort of level of
Speaker 2: interest from good actors and everything and even filmmakers that
Speaker 2: I thought maybe there's a chance, okay, probably, I mean, hold.
Speaker 3: Up, this is directed by the guy who did Ghost
Speaker 3: in the Shell.
Speaker 2: Oh no, okay, well, so that's going to be about
Speaker 2: Oh no, okay, all right.
Speaker 1: Well listen, the movie's probably going to be bad. It
Speaker 1: almost certainly is going to be bad.
Speaker 2: But I like, I was, Hey, the Crow looks cool,
Speaker 2: make him look cool, and they just don't even have that.
Speaker 2: So uh bummed out that this Call of Duty event
Speaker 2: is going to have that Crow and not the original
Speaker 2: Brandon Lee Crow. Brendan Lee, I should say, I yeah,
Speaker 2: big fan. And if people haven't seen that, that's that's
Speaker 2: a good, good movie. Go watch that original.
Speaker 3: Crow looking looking at the new The New Crow's Wikipedia
Speaker 3: page apparently Bradley Cooper was in talks to play the lead.
Speaker 3: This is back in twenty eleven, rumors of Channing Tatum
Speaker 3: and Ryan Gosling, James McAvoy, ooh, it was a Weinstein joint. Uh.
Speaker 3: Tom Hiddleston was in talks. Alexander scarsguard was in talks. Okay,
Speaker 3: oh my god, Okay. If you look at the development
Speaker 3: of this movie, it's, oh my god, Yeah, this is
Speaker 3: a this is a meaty read. And then and then yeah,
Speaker 3: like Bill Scars getting right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of vaguely remember this. So this was
Speaker 2: like troubled for quite some time.
Speaker 1: I heard a lot going on. Yeah, Channing Tatum would
Speaker 1: have been a good crow. That's right. Chat.
Speaker 2: I've not seen Deadpool versus Wolverina or whatever it's called.
Speaker 1: Uh, have you seen anything?
Speaker 3: I was streaming it on TikTok. I'm not going to Okay,
Speaker 3: someone who was streaming it on TikTok last night as
Speaker 3: I was scrolling, they were just playing the whole movie.
Speaker 3: I fully, you know what. On FPS last week Jake
Speaker 3: and Ralph were talking about it, and I think I
Speaker 3: must have pulled a face because so many comments were like,
Speaker 3: why does Lucy Hey Deadpool, and it's like, I just
Speaker 3: think I don't like Ryan Reynolds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my wife was telling me this in the car
Speaker 2: the other day. She also just doesn't like Ryan Reynolds,
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I think I'm just no argument. Yeah exactly,
Speaker 2: it's the same shtick. And so if you're over it,
Speaker 2: what else does he got?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: I get that some people, well many people think he's
Speaker 2: very handsome. I think he's very handsome, but that's also
Speaker 2: gonna wear off overtime. There's a lot of handsome people
Speaker 2: that don't do that stick. So yeah, I get it.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I probably will see that movie at
Speaker 1: some point, but might wait till it comes home.
Speaker 3: But also it feels like it feels like Hugh Jackman
Speaker 3: was a very nice, polite boy and he is being
Speaker 3: he's becoming annoying through pure association with Ryan Reynolds and
Speaker 3: Ryan Reynolds's stick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the idea is like he yells at
Speaker 2: him a lot in the movie, but you're still right,
Speaker 2: like he's being tanketed a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been tanged by association. And also just leave
Speaker 3: Rob mclaney alone, Leave him alone.
Speaker 2: Did you see the there was a clip of Rob
Speaker 2: mcaleney and Glenn doing a talk on a stage.
Speaker 1: And so about Ryan Reynolds.
Speaker 3: Glenn's face just drops immediately drops.
Speaker 1: Yeah, buddy, it's like, oh my god, disgusting.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Bill Starskart's The Crow is going to be in
Speaker 2: Call Duty because we just live in a weird time
Speaker 2: and that's the kind of thing we deal with. Lionsgate
Speaker 2: doing that Crow movie. I think they also did border Lands,
Speaker 2: so they might have something, might have a real bad
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. They might just be done with movies
Speaker 2: after this.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I might go back to making Gates for lions I
Speaker 2: don't know what business they were in originally, but this
Speaker 2: is this is gonna be a rough time for them.
Speaker 2: So good luck with that, all right. Fallout New Vegas
Speaker 2: director says he would lead a new Fallout game if
Speaker 2: granted creative freedom. This from Jordan Miller at BGC. Fallout
Speaker 2: New Vegas director Josh Sawyer has said that he'd work
Speaker 2: on a new Fallout title as long as certain creative
Speaker 2: criteria were met. In the second of his recently launched
Speaker 2: Q and A series on his YouTube channel, the Pentiment
Speaker 2: director said he would happily return to Fallout depending on
Speaker 2: the level of creative freedom he'd be granted. Any project
Speaker 2: has to do with what are we doing? What are
Speaker 2: the boundaries? What am I allowed to do and not
Speaker 2: allowed to do? Sawyer said when asked by a fan
Speaker 2: about returning to the series. I think with any IP,
Speaker 2: especially one I've worked with before, what do I want
Speaker 2: to do this time that I wasn't able to do
Speaker 2: last time? If those constraints are just really constraining, then
Speaker 2: it's not appealing because who wants to work on something
Speaker 2: where the one thing they want to explore is not possible.
Speaker 2: Enthusiasm for more Fallout titles from the team behind New
Speaker 2: Vegas has been growing for years. Last year, original Fallout
Speaker 2: co creators Tim Kane and Leonard Boyarsky expressed their enthusiasm
Speaker 2: for a potential New Fallout New Vegas remaster. The longtime partners,
Speaker 2: who most recently co directed Obsidians the Outer Worlds, told
Speaker 2: The Gamer that they'd be keen to see the studio's
Speaker 2: twenty ten Fallout game revisited, not that it's up to me,
Speaker 2: but would in a graphical remaster fall Out New Vegas
Speaker 2: be awesome, Kane said in an interview.
Speaker 1: It would be awesome. We Aarsky agreed.
Speaker 2: So the thing with Josh Sawyer is he's like kind
Speaker 2: of sick of just doing the work for higher thing
Speaker 2: or coming in and working on someone's project that he's
Speaker 2: not interested in, so he's got to be very interesting.
Speaker 1: He said this publicly as well.
Speaker 2: That's why Pentiment was the project he ended up working
Speaker 2: on last time, because it's something that's interested him, interested him,
Speaker 2: and he had the freedom to do it at Obsidian.
Speaker 1: So I imagine they would have to match.
Speaker 2: That level of oh you want to get into your
Speaker 2: specific bullshit, Josh, okay, you could do that and use
Speaker 2: the Canvas or Fallout or fall Out New Vegas two.
Speaker 1: Whatever it would be.
Speaker 2: But the fact that he's even saying this publicly is
Speaker 2: going to I think haunt him maybe not be the
Speaker 2: right word.
Speaker 1: He's saying it publicly.
Speaker 2: He's clearly kind of seems to want to do this,
Speaker 2: But if it doesn't happen, people are going to bring
Speaker 2: this up for the rest of his life now because
Speaker 2: they want him to make this game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, maybe it'll push Microsoft into actually
Speaker 3: green lighting and you, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, I think much more than anybody, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Maybe yeah, maybe this will help move it ahead. No,
Speaker 3: I mean, oh god, I you know, we talk to
Speaker 3: developers all the time. Imagine just like you made one
Speaker 3: game and that's all anyone asks you about for so
Speaker 3: so long, and then like yeah, getting to you know
Speaker 3: maybe and then and then imagine like twelve years later,
Speaker 3: a massive acquisition happens, people like, hey, you make another one,
Speaker 3: you make another one, you make it another one. I'm
Speaker 3: glad he's like got this on the record so that
Speaker 3: he can point to it. Yeah, because I imagine he
Speaker 3: just must guess, he must just get asked it all
Speaker 3: the time. Be really cool though, Like I mean, there's
Speaker 3: so much good momentum behind Fallout right now, especially after
Speaker 3: the TV show seventy six is doing really well. There's
Speaker 3: an't like the time would be now to go back
Speaker 3: to New Vegas, especially given the t's at the end
Speaker 3: of the fall Out TV show.
Speaker 1: YEP. I think yes, And I think that.
Speaker 2: It feels like the right project for the right team,
Speaker 2: with the right direct director for Microsoft, Like everything just
Speaker 2: feels like it's lining up, where like Fallout is at
Speaker 2: its its zenith in terms of cultural route relevancy.
Speaker 1: Z Oh yeah, that's one of my favorite favorite TV brand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the show is like clearly responsible for a
Speaker 2: lot of that, but New Vegas is also at a
Speaker 2: peak of its own in terms of people's like looking
Speaker 2: back at that and loving it more and more and
Speaker 2: more and getting more of their friends to play and
Speaker 2: more people sort of looking back at like that was great,
Speaker 2: and it's the specific kind of game that we want
Speaker 2: more of from Fallout. Not necessarily more, but that's the style.
Speaker 2: And I think but this is at a point also
Speaker 2: where they're like a little bit licking their wounds after
Speaker 2: Starfield minor wounds. I don't know however big the wounds are,
Speaker 2: who knows, but like licking of wounds. And they are
Speaker 2: also so busy that they know they can't get to
Speaker 2: a Fallout very soon. So again just say it feels
Speaker 2: like circumstances have lined up to lead to this maybe happening.
Speaker 2: And as I've said before, I know Obsidian Microsoft have
Speaker 2: had a conversation about some sort of New Vegas fallow love,
Speaker 2: not anything more than that as far as I'm aware,
Speaker 2: I don't know, but they definitely have talked about it.
Speaker 2: So yeah, maybe this could happen.
Speaker 1: I think that would be excellent to see all right.
Speaker 2: A report that the gaming market continues to grow despite
Speaker 2: all of the cuts. This is from Marcus Person at
Speaker 2: Game Reactor. The past two years have been trying to
Speaker 2: say the The past two years have been trying to
Speaker 2: say the least for the gaming industry. Redundancies, downsizing, and
Speaker 2: enclosures have become commonplace news headlines. Last year, over ten
Speaker 2: thousand people lost their jobs. In between January and July.
Speaker 2: This year, a further eleven two hundred people were made redundant.
Speaker 2: But despite these gloomy figures, the gaming market is growing,
Speaker 2: with new figures showing an increase in global turnover. Game
Speaker 2: industry dop IS reports in an expected annual turnover of
Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty seven point seven billion dollars, which
Speaker 2: is certainly less than expected, but still an increase of
Speaker 2: two point one percent compared to twenty twenty three. In addition,
Speaker 2: the PC segment is predicted to grow the most, which
Speaker 2: is attributed to weak console launches and increased support for
Speaker 2: cross play. Lucy, this sounds about right. This continues to
Speaker 2: sound like where the industry is at.
Speaker 1: These companies are still making a lot of money.
Speaker 2: They're they and they're making it's growing it's maybe not
Speaker 2: growing as fast as inflation, but it's right there. It's
Speaker 2: not too far behind that, so that that you know
Speaker 2: they're there. Maybe they're a little bit feeling the pressure there,
Speaker 2: but they are growing. But I think the question has
Speaker 2: been where is the growth happening? Because I think we
Speaker 2: see the growth happening in a handful of games, and
Speaker 2: then anything outside of that sphere is going to be like,
Speaker 2: you are good luck making your money back on your game,
Speaker 2: it feels like, and that's like, yeah, so the the
Speaker 2: central part of gaming continues to grow taller, and then
Speaker 2: meanwhile all of like the fertile land that used to
Speaker 2: be out there for everyone to come in there and
Speaker 2: make a game and sell it has sort of that
Speaker 2: continues to fall away.
Speaker 1: That's how I'm reading it. How does it feel to you?
Speaker 3: It just feels like, as of anything, line must go up. Yeah,
Speaker 3: look at look, I mean, you know the Google figures
Speaker 3: about you know, they had thousands of layoffs and then
Speaker 3: they still made billions in profit book water It's it's
Speaker 3: just as capitalist healthscape do we live in, were you know,
Speaker 3: breaking even and doing well and doing well enough to
Speaker 3: survive isn't enough. The line always has to go up
Speaker 3: and people have to suffer on yep.
Speaker 2: And when they are looking at like, oh, it's only
Speaker 2: two percent growth and that isn't keeping up with inflation.
Speaker 1: What's something we can.
Speaker 2: Do to improve our bottom line of how much we're
Speaker 2: actually bringing in? Like the top line's fine, plenty of revenue,
Speaker 2: that's all great, but the bottom line wasn't looking so good.
Speaker 1: So what can we do. Let's lay off you know,
Speaker 1: a bunch of people.
Speaker 2: And that's you know, continues to be the frustrating thing
Speaker 2: that you know, it wasn't always this way. I say
Speaker 2: this before there was a time where layoffs to protect
Speaker 2: your bottom line was just never even an option for
Speaker 2: hundreds of years. And we've had companies for a very
Speaker 2: long time and that was just something they never did
Speaker 2: until relatively recently. And now it's become an epidemic and
Speaker 2: we can't sort of turn off that faucet. That said,
Speaker 2: the industry, like the interest from people to play games
Speaker 2: is to very high. People spending money on that hobby
Speaker 2: still very high. I think the industry is just sort
Speaker 2: of put themselves in a corner with we have these
Speaker 2: forever games and now they're like, oh shit, people are
Speaker 2: playing these games forever and some means all the growth
Speaker 2: is really focused in these very specific areas. How do
Speaker 2: we sort of introduce new things to enable the industry
Speaker 2: to grow even more and get these people spend money
Speaker 2: on multiple games like that, and it's like, oh, they
Speaker 2: don't do that. People just want their one hobby game.
Speaker 2: You've given them, given them that, and now the industry
Speaker 2: is sort of suffering for a lack because of its
Speaker 2: own success, which is just like I feel like a
Speaker 2: lot of people did predict that we would end up here.
Speaker 3: Suffering from success.
Speaker 2: Suffering from statistics, so just like us, right, But I
Speaker 2: think that this industry is going to have to just
Speaker 2: kind of like there will be growing pains with this.
Speaker 2: They're just gonna have to deal with these pains and
Speaker 2: figure out what it looks like on the other side.
Speaker 2: And at a certain point, I do think the interest
Speaker 2: in a handful of games will wan enough that some
Speaker 2: new thing, some shiny new a bell will come up long,
Speaker 2: it'll ring and people will start paying attention to that.
Speaker 2: But is that going to happen to fall Out or
Speaker 2: Fortnite anytime soon?
Speaker 3: Probably not, right, No, It's it's also weird, like if
Speaker 3: you look, if you follow Matt Biscuiteler and see all
Speaker 3: the Saikana reports, like every every month, it's six of
Speaker 3: the top ten are games that were released five years ago.
Speaker 1: Yep, five years Yeah.
Speaker 3: And so it's like, it's weird that they have all
Speaker 3: of the attention. They dominate the the mind share, I guess,
Speaker 3: and the zeitgeist, and there's just I don't know, it's weird.
Speaker 3: It's tougher than ever because anyone, anyone can put something
Speaker 3: on Steam. It's you know, the amount of games that
Speaker 3: are being put on that platform every single day, cutting
Speaker 3: through the noise. It's tough. So now I'm hoping for
Speaker 3: a few more games to really pop off same years.
Speaker 2: Speaking of which, here's again that could pop off. Dragon
Speaker 2: h vlgar release date is coming tomorrow. So this is
Speaker 2: a tweet.
Speaker 1: Let me open this right now and see what they
Speaker 1: said here loading.
Speaker 2: The release date for Dragon Age the Veilguard will be
Speaker 2: revealed tomorrow. We're excited to share this moment with our
Speaker 2: fans with the release date trailer, and in the coming
Speaker 2: weeks will also have high level Warrior Combat Gameplay Companions
Speaker 2: Week and more Man Companions Week. People are gonna be
Speaker 2: fucking out out of pocket on that one Dragon h Veilguard.
Speaker 2: I've heard weeks ago. October is what they were aiming for,
Speaker 2: but that was always like aiming for. It could go
Speaker 2: either way, could come earlier, it could come later, but
Speaker 2: October is what.
Speaker 1: They were aiming for. So I'm still expecting that.
Speaker 2: You know, they have in fact, they have a lineup
Speaker 2: here of stuff that's happening. Oh, Companions Week is August
Speaker 2: twenty sixth, and Developer Discoord Q and A is later
Speaker 2: in August, and then September three. We have an ign
Speaker 2: first and then something else in September, and that kind
Speaker 2: of makes it feel like they're leading up to something
Speaker 2: happening in October.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. You are a.
Speaker 2: Dragon age freak, right, Lucy James. Are you excited about this?
Speaker 3: I am? Yeah. I hosted the Companions panel it Comic Car, right,
Speaker 3: you did, so, I yeah, I got to. I got
Speaker 3: to meet the actors behind some of the new companions
Speaker 3: and learn a little bit about what they're going to be. Like,
Speaker 3: I'm very excited. I'm yeah. It's uh, I don't know,
Speaker 3: like it's been ten years since Inquisition and Trespasser like
Speaker 3: ended on a big old cliff high and so I'm
Speaker 3: I'm super stoked and also like, I'm just very glad
Speaker 3: that they're not doing the multiplayer stuff. It is all
Speaker 3: single player. It's going to be everything I've seen of
Speaker 3: it I'm really really excited for. So I just can't wait.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like they made a lot of real
Speaker 2: of the right choices when they were confronted with like
Speaker 2: two paths to take, and they're like, yeah, we should
Speaker 2: go with what we what were good at. We con
Speaker 2: track some new stuff in that space, but a sh
Speaker 2: you go with the single player narrative RPG that that
Speaker 2: we are known for. That trailer that did get revealed
Speaker 2: at Summer Game Fest wherever it was it was, I
Speaker 2: know a lot of people were like, this is not
Speaker 2: what I was asking for, But that's not the game, right.
Speaker 2: That was a cinematic trailer that has very little to
Speaker 2: do with how the game is actually going to look
Speaker 2: and feel and play. Right, So, as someone who's seen
Speaker 2: a little bit more of it, because they did do so,
Speaker 2: like they shoved people at Summer Game pest the game
Speaker 2: a little.
Speaker 3: Bit when I saw the first hour.
Speaker 2: So you saw the first hour, right, so coming out
Speaker 2: of that, and then you know, talking to people who
Speaker 2: are working on the game, how are you feeling about it?
Speaker 2: You say you're excited. Do you think people should be
Speaker 2: concerned about that trailer or you're like, no, Hey, Dragon
Speaker 2: Age fans, I think it's gonna be okay.
Speaker 3: That trailer is a tone piece. I don't think it's
Speaker 3: very I mean it's I think I'm just gonna I'm
Speaker 3: gonna say it the hero's choice. The day of Bowie Heroes,
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, don't do that. It's like, it's
Speaker 3: a personal bugbear of mine. If you if you're watching
Speaker 3: a TV show, Lady Jane Gray calling you out on this,
Speaker 3: if your character is in any way rebellious and you
Speaker 3: play the song Rebel Rebel by David Bowie, I think
Speaker 3: you should never be allowed to work in film and
Speaker 3: TV again.
Speaker 2: I think any sort of literal soundtrack that is the
Speaker 2: same what is happening?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: The one that it comes to I always is Captain
Speaker 1: Marvel or whatever is I'm Just a Girl by No.
Speaker 3: Doubt, which hadn't even been released by when the movie
Speaker 3: was set. Yeah, I'm not gonna lie, dude. When I
Speaker 3: saw when I saw Captain Marvel. I was like, okay, okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's fine. This is the when I started falling out
Speaker 3: of love with Marvel. And then the just a Girl
Speaker 3: drop and I was like, I hate this, Like I
Speaker 3: almost stood up and left. I didn't because it was
Speaker 3: at the end of the movie. But you know, it's
Speaker 3: just like all the other songs exist anyway, and so
Speaker 3: the dragon and trailer definitely had an element of that
Speaker 3: where it was like, you could just be a different song,
Speaker 3: like but I think from what I saw and like
Speaker 3: the way that they're talking about doing the first hour
Speaker 3: where it's like the quote that they said is that
Speaker 3: they wanted the first hour of Vail Guard to be
Speaker 3: like the ending of any other game.
Speaker 1: Okay, interesting, So that's yeah.
Speaker 3: They do do some cool shit at the end at
Speaker 3: the end of the prologue. But the thing about Dragon Age,
Speaker 3: the thing that is really the thing that makes the
Speaker 3: franchise connect with people and with me in particular, are
Speaker 3: the companions. And so I'm super excited that they have
Speaker 3: this Companion's week. Yeah, I'm really excited about it. I'm
Speaker 3: just I just want to get into like I've been
Speaker 3: playing a lot of smaller games recently, and I just
Speaker 3: really want to get into a big long.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that game is going to hit
Speaker 2: the exact right time. I think there's a good chance
Speaker 2: that that is like the big ball game for a
Speaker 2: lot of people.
Speaker 1: Rebel.
Speaker 2: Rebel and sympathy for Sympathy for the Devil are definitely
Speaker 2: two songs I would put on the mount rushmore of
Speaker 2: songs that can't be used in movies anymore.
Speaker 3: You know what, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna say,
Speaker 3: I'm at the paint at the point, I'm at the
Speaker 3: point where the Wilhelm scream is just a yeah.
Speaker 1: It's too noticeable at this point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's two used any game.
Speaker 1: Still.
Speaker 2: I think when I hear in a game, I'm not
Speaker 2: expecting it, But in a movie it's too much.
Speaker 1: All right, let's hit this. Yeah, last couple here, the
Speaker 1: last one right here.
Speaker 2: Sakarai says that he basically did not make Smash Brothers
Speaker 2: because he beat someone so bad in King of Fighters
Speaker 2: ninety five and that had no influence on Smash Brothers.
Speaker 2: This just reminded Nintendo News super Smash Brothers creator Massa Hero.
Speaker 2: Sakarai recently recited and experience that they had in the
Speaker 2: arcades back in the day, which when people heard it
Speaker 2: years ago, believed that it influenced the nature of the
Speaker 2: Super Smash Brothers franchise. However, turns out that this rumor
Speaker 2: is incorrect. He recently debunked the long running rumor on
Speaker 2: his personal account on Twitter. Here's what happened, he said.
Speaker 2: A challenger jumped into the game. I went on to
Speaker 2: fight them, and this in King of Fighters ninety five.
Speaker 2: I went on to fight them and landed my moves
Speaker 2: with style with Takuma Sazaki Sakazaki. I jumped then did
Speaker 2: a strong bunch uppercut ku on ken hai en shupu
Speaker 2: kayuku and a zaren suzukin listen, I don't know, a fancy,
Speaker 2: flashy combo with three special moves one right after the other.
Speaker 2: But something was off. Sack ripe again. The other side
Speaker 2: wasn't fighting back. When I took a peek over at
Speaker 2: the other side, I was surprised to find a run
Speaker 2: of the mill couple sitting there. The girlfriend was with
Speaker 2: the one plane. I couldn't help but think I messed up,
Speaker 2: Like basically, they're just trying to have a good time
Speaker 2: and he's sitting there doing his awesome triple special move
Speaker 2: and like thinking he's got hot shit, but people thought
Speaker 2: that that was the thing that He's like, Okay, I
Speaker 2: want to make sure everyone always has fun in Super
Speaker 2: Smash Brothers, And he says he does think that, but
Speaker 2: that's not the reason why. When playing games with other people,
Speaker 2: I make it a point to be as kind as
Speaker 2: possible to beginner level players. Some say it's impolite to
Speaker 2: hold back, but that's just not true. Some rumors have
Speaker 2: suggested that Super Smash Brothers was created as a result
Speaker 2: of the story I discussed in this episode, but I
Speaker 2: can confirm that's not the case. This experience had no
Speaker 2: influence on the concept behind Smash Brothers. I do like
Speaker 2: the idea that people are like, why Smash Brothers the
Speaker 2: way it is? Maybe it's cause Sakra I just beat
Speaker 2: the hell out of these people so bad, and he
Speaker 2: felt terrible and he wanted to make a more friendly game,
Speaker 2: and it's like, well, have you met Smash Brothers players.
Speaker 1: They're not friendly either, So that's not the case.
Speaker 3: I know. I recently played Smash when we were shooting
Speaker 3: star players against money Exchange, and I got absolutely destroyed.
Speaker 3: And so I can confirm. Yeah, it doesn't matter how
Speaker 3: cute and cuddly those characters are. A defeat is still
Speaker 3: a defeat.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: And those people have to play the game that way
Speaker 2: where it's like, you know, it's one on one, no items,
Speaker 2: they are playing a different game. Absolutely all right. That
Speaker 2: does it for the headlines. I got a pull question.
Speaker 2: I will get up here in a second. Well I'm
Speaker 2: doing that, Lucy James. Why don't you tell people where
Speaker 2: they can find you on the internet what you have
Speaker 2: going on?
Speaker 1: Tell people about Star Players all that good stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so find me everywhere, Lose James. Games. We have
Speaker 3: a new episode of Jeff Jeff's was our adventure going
Speaker 3: up to day I believe maybe one of my least
Speaker 3: favorite Jojo episodes. It was just it was just one
Speaker 3: of those weird ones where they just it felt like
Speaker 3: a bit of a weird side story. But getting back
Speaker 3: into the good stuff in the second episode, so it's
Speaker 3: overall it's a very fun episode of Jeff Jeff Sorry
Speaker 3: Adventure going to games come next week. Star Players is
Speaker 3: still going. So this week there is a very fun
Speaker 3: chat with me and Rahul Coley, who is from I Zombie,
Speaker 3: Midnight Mass Mike Flannil projects. He's also in a bunch
Speaker 3: of video games. And I will say we did record
Speaker 3: this well before the SAG strike. Yeah, Rahul is a
Speaker 3: very a very fun chat. We also like there was
Speaker 3: a point where he and I just kind of riffed
Speaker 3: like Alan Partridge stuff for about half an hour, and
Speaker 3: one of the editors notes was literally just like we
Speaker 3: have to cut all this. I again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're you're back now, It's all right, all right,
Speaker 2: let's see here. Poll question from Monday, do you want
Speaker 2: to support dual screen or do you want Nintendo to
Speaker 2: support dual screen gaming on the switch to? Fifty eight
Speaker 2: percent said no, forty two percent said yes. So I
Speaker 2: I think if Nintendo can do this without getting in
Speaker 2: its own way and not causing problems, and I think
Speaker 2: specifically enabling publishers who don't want to support dual screens
Speaker 2: to release games for the Switch without.
Speaker 1: Issue and where we go we got Lucy back now,
Speaker 1: then I think I think this is just fine. I
Speaker 1: think they should support it.
Speaker 2: But if they if they cannot like release a switch
Speaker 2: to without like the dual screens being a problem where
Speaker 2: it's like no, you have to support that, and that
Speaker 2: this is accord of the experience, then I don't want them.
Speaker 1: To do it. Just ignore it. Just don't don't do
Speaker 1: that at all.
Speaker 2: Actually, all right, new poll question. I'll get it written
Speaker 2: here for you in a second, gan to get it posted.
Speaker 2: But we're gonna do when do you think the switch
Speaker 2: to is coming out? And we'll go with April May,
Speaker 2: and then we'll put like a vague summary time and then.
Speaker 1: We'll put fall. So those be or four options and
Speaker 1: we'll get the results of that.
Speaker 2: I'll talk about on Game Miss Mornings on Giant Bomb tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Speaking to Giant Bomb. As Lucy mentioned, we'll have more
Speaker 2: Jeff Jeff's coming. We will have a Delight Club later
Speaker 2: today because Blake Club cannot happen because Dan went to
Speaker 2: the UK for some reason and he won't. I think
Speaker 2: they'll all be in Germany next week, so no Blake
Speaker 2: Club next week either, but this week we'll do a
Speaker 2: Delight Club. I think we're gonna play Dake Katana, but
Speaker 2: for Game Boy Color. We're gonna play for Game Boy
Speaker 2: Color this time, so it's gonna be a little bit better. Well,
Speaker 2: we might mess around with some other Gen Romero games
Speaker 2: and then anything else happening. We'll have a voicemail dump
Speaker 2: truck on Thursday. Of course, we might play some Fortnite
Speaker 2: the Marvel characters. The X Men characters got released, and
Speaker 2: you know Jan's got to play as Cyclops, so we
Speaker 2: want to give him that.
Speaker 1: Maybe we could do all Cyclops. I'm not sure Jam
Speaker 1: will let us do that. Well.
Speaker 2: The PCR where me and Jam will talk about our
Speaker 2: review of the Borderlands movie because we both saw that
Speaker 2: and I can't just I can't have done that for nothing, Lucy, I.
Speaker 3: Know everything has to have a purpose that I'm really
Speaker 3: sorry that you guys went through that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, boy, go see it everybody. I don't want to
Speaker 2: be alone, all right. I think that is going to
Speaker 2: do it for us today, Lucy James, thank you so
Speaker 2: much for speaking with me about video games today.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Thank you. I mean god, so I got my Internet.
Speaker 3: The thing is is that I think it's just Discord
Speaker 3: because everything else was fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll try a different server next time, closer to
Speaker 1: your place. See if that helps.
Speaker 2: Thank you all for watching, Thank you all for listening.
Speaker 2: You are the best audience in gaming. Until next time,
Speaker 2: have a good one, Take care of yourself and goodbye