Speaker 1: Can I get it now from everybody out there in
Speaker 1: pretty current read nation. Good evening, everybody. I'm your host, DJ,
Speaker 1: and welcome back to Calling All Beings, because we gonna
Speaker 1: get down to it tonight with a crazy ass. You
Speaker 1: know who I'm talking about, Jason Broyle. He's not here yet.
Speaker 1: But before that, let me introduce to you my co
Speaker 1: host Dujore, somebody who you've seen hosts this joint. And
Speaker 1: you know what, pretty soon, I mean, I think Hern
Speaker 1: Beaches might just do an episode where I'm not even
Speaker 1: there to a part of people at least give me.
Speaker 1: Give me a golf clap right here for my home girl.
Speaker 2: Brint happens, everybody print happens.
Speaker 3: Hey, good to see you again.
Speaker 1: Hell is that Inhow is that all right? Oh?
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, that's a whole lot better than when
Speaker 3: I get at home.
Speaker 1: So that's better than when I get home too. It's
Speaker 1: like get out of my way, you know, That's what
Speaker 1: I hear at home. But anyway, so yeah, welcome back
Speaker 1: to Calling All being Let's see who we got up
Speaker 1: in the chat. Our home buzos up in here. Uh,
Speaker 1: there's the fireside chat background. What's what we about to
Speaker 1: do with my homie when he gets up in here.
Speaker 1: I don't know where this boy at, but if not,
Speaker 1: we're doing a show together, Brinton. So all right, let's
Speaker 1: say hi to some people up in here. Miss Jessica
Speaker 1: and Beezy is in the house. Uh, let's see Julie
Speaker 1: are the og gangster of Calling o'bings? Mods, I'm here.
Speaker 1: Let's see Kathleen is here. Hey, man, Kathleen Gates doing.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much for some of that dragonflies here?
Speaker 1: Hi DJ Finally, Hey, welcome being Venito's dragonfly. Hopefully Jason's
Speaker 1: gonna be here to entertain you. Otherwise you're gonna be
Speaker 1: stuck with me and Britt for the night. All right,
Speaker 1: And we got JD here, a member. What's up? JD
Speaker 1: is the opposite of my name?
Speaker 3: Sari?
Speaker 1: Welcome? Who's eh?
Speaker 3: Sarah?
Speaker 1: Did I okay? Because I'm not I'm going down. I'm
Speaker 1: going in order, all right. Christine Anthony's here. Welcome Christine,
Speaker 1: Welcome to Calling o' beings. Let's see the dragonfly Kathleen,
Speaker 1: and there she is the legendary We about to have
Speaker 1: dinner with this young lady right here, Sarah and Shock
Speaker 1: and all rock. I'm Jennifer McCabe, here's a man lying
Speaker 1: on the law, and at thirty Fluffy have you? You know
Speaker 1: the Albert's residents, they are well famous. Anyway to share.
Speaker 1: You can critique me on that later on, my Jim McCabe,
Speaker 1: there's a man on the law and at thirty Fluffy
Speaker 1: have you and Canton. So please later on give me
Speaker 1: a grade on that, and I'll tell you what, Sarah
Speaker 1: the grade. Let's make it from one to one point
Speaker 1: twenty five. That way. I can't be that good or bad.
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. And there's Judy bus Jerry High. Judy
Speaker 1: Judy is gonna be joining us down there at the
Speaker 1: UH in Canton at excuse me, denim at the Tavern
Speaker 1: on the Square, January twelfth, six thirty pm, just because
Speaker 1: Peter Murphy said so. Oh and by the way, okay,
Speaker 1: we got class. Hey, what's going on? Home girl VN
Speaker 1: Chatting with her a little bit. She clued me in
Speaker 1: on what type of an accent that Ozzie inside her house?
Speaker 1: Classic overthinker. If you'd like to type in the chat
Speaker 1: and let us know uh what to Oh man, he
Speaker 1: backstage right now here, this is a pipe hitting up.
Speaker 1: I'm about to tell you, okay, he's a pipe hitten up.
Speaker 1: He played no games, all right? Yeah, all right, we
Speaker 1: gotta get him on here. But yeah, so tell me
Speaker 1: tell me classcoverthinker, what type of an accent does Shorty
Speaker 1: have so that you can educate us Yanks here on
Speaker 1: what's going down? All right? So Christine Anthony's here, make
Speaker 1: sure we said hello. Sherry Dizzle is in the house.
Speaker 1: I got to talk to Sherry today, Monique, welcome, got
Speaker 1: my ears on listening from Bristol, Connecticut. And that's where
Speaker 1: my brother is broadcasting from tonight. And we also Britt
Speaker 1: Britt not in her car. Britt just come back from
Speaker 1: no just tan like that, all right? And that's right
Speaker 1: side back and grill and there's a homie Annette the
Speaker 1: reality check. All right, Now, we gotta get ready for
Speaker 1: this brother, right, so we gotta get that. Let's just
Speaker 1: get the music going for me. This man is an
Speaker 1: independent journalist. He's taking no prisoners, he's not taking no quarters.
Speaker 1: And guess what he definitely isn't given any quarters. So
Speaker 1: party people put those hands together. But the man Jason brought,
Speaker 1: can I get ahead man from anybody for chasing? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What is up? Problem? Man, how are we doing out there?
Speaker 4: That's it for me. I came just for that, so
Speaker 4: I'm gonna head out in knowledge.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go watch chart boy now peace man, all.
Speaker 4: Right, how's everybody doing? I love it? I love it.
Speaker 1: That was great, doing good, man, doing good. I'm happy
Speaker 1: to have you here. I want to do real quick
Speaker 1: before we jump into this. I told my friend Tim Halleran,
Speaker 1: who was recently in Canton on business, that I would
Speaker 1: do a quick let me see if I can get
Speaker 1: this up for squatch of Chusetts. Let me see. I dude, man,
Speaker 1: Dave McCollough man, he is the Massachusetts legend for uh
Speaker 1: for sasquatch. I know y'all are thinking, no, this thing
Speaker 1: don't exist. Man, Ain't no such a damn thing. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you, man, this is real. Jason, we haven't
Speaker 1: had to talk about this yet, man, but it's real.
Speaker 4: No, but I think I do think that I'm only
Speaker 4: gonna come on YouTube shows that believe in aliens or
Speaker 4: sasquatch going forward, So you have no You're gonna get
Speaker 4: no complaints from me.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna tell you, man, I mean the I
Speaker 1: don't even the UFOs like I'm not even having the
Speaker 1: discussion anymore just because uh, it's in Congress. I mean
Speaker 1: they're having full uh you know, House Oversight Committee. They've
Speaker 1: done too now with multiple guests of the Navy and
Speaker 1: Department of Defense. So it's like, I mean, if you
Speaker 1: still are thinking this is a fake, then you know
Speaker 1: what am I gonna tell you? But you're here.
Speaker 4: I just want to I just want to add into that.
Speaker 4: My formative years I spent listening to Art Bell on
Speaker 4: AM radio. So if that tells you anything about.
Speaker 1: Me, oh there you go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a believer.
Speaker 1: I'm a Johnny Come Lately. Tell Yeah. I mean it's
Speaker 1: pretty much a thing now, but just to uh just
Speaker 1: to show. Let me see if I can. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I can scroll from here, but let me
Speaker 1: know if you see this scrolling? Is it scrolling right now?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 3: Scrolling?
Speaker 1: Yeah. So this is Dave mccullaugh and there's another gentleman.
Speaker 1: I know Dave because I've heard him interview. But they
Speaker 1: basically will talk about different areas in Massachusetts where there
Speaker 1: are bigfoot sightings and you can see here they've taken
Speaker 1: photos of tree formations that humans really in some cases
Speaker 1: the trees are just so big that humans couldn't have
Speaker 1: put them together or wedged them in there. And so
Speaker 1: if someone has a sighting or is having problems with
Speaker 1: their property, they'll call people like Dave McCullough and he'll
Speaker 1: come down there. That's the two guys from Finding Bigfoot,
Speaker 1: Cliff and Bobo that you guys remember. So anyway, yeah,
Speaker 1: I wanted to let you know about that in case
Speaker 1: you're in Massachusetts and either you're interested in finding out
Speaker 1: about it, check out Dave McCullough. And I also have
Speaker 1: something from Les Stroud. But I know people came here
Speaker 1: because they want to get into they want to get
Speaker 1: into some damn talk about my boy Jason Broyle's so
Speaker 1: we got to get into it within them, and we
Speaker 1: don't do it.
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna I'm gonna be back in mass and
Speaker 4: then upcome week. So I'm gonna make sure I keep
Speaker 4: my eyes open while I'm driving down the highway there.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, man, I have heard from I mean,
Speaker 1: I've interviewed a number of people from police officers, military people.
Speaker 1: I've interviewed a number of people that had sightings and
Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, there I haven't interviewed all
Speaker 1: of them, but in forty eight to fifty states out
Speaker 1: at Fort Lewis out there in Washington, Uh, there was
Speaker 1: a guy who was an opposing force guy. Basically, you
Speaker 1: go on you go out on the range and you're
Speaker 1: the bad guy and you're trying to attack the good
Speaker 1: guys and you have weapons that that basically don't have
Speaker 1: real bullets in them, and they were working against a
Speaker 1: special forces team and that special forces team shot one.
Speaker 1: So a lot of people didn't believe him. And then
Speaker 1: about ninety days later, the special forces guy goes on
Speaker 1: air with Wes Germer of Sasquatch Chronicles, who is the
Speaker 1: number one content creator. I mean he has he has
Speaker 1: videos that are you know, three quarters of a million views.
Speaker 1: And Wes interviewed the special Forces operator and me, coming
Speaker 1: from that community, I know the lingo. I mean, I
Speaker 1: know you're a Marine Corps, but I know the the
Speaker 1: the USASAK lingo. And he definitely was legit and he
Speaker 1: gave just enough information without giving up all the goods
Speaker 1: and I was like wow. So he basically said, yes,
Speaker 1: we were the special Forces team that other dude was
Speaker 1: talking to you about. So that legitimized that that encounter
Speaker 1: right there where they shot and killed apparently two of them. Anyway,
Speaker 1: let's get down to Karen Reid. Oh, I still have
Speaker 1: reality check up there, high reality check. Let me get
Speaker 1: that out of the way, Jason. First of all, what's
Speaker 1: that in the backgrounds at Boston?
Speaker 4: That's Hartford.
Speaker 1: It's Hartford.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the nearest major city to me. I realized on
Speaker 4: another live stream that when I said a certain way,
Speaker 4: that thing comes right out of the top of my head.
Speaker 4: The building back I thought about. I thought about changing it,
Speaker 4: but I decided to keep it.
Speaker 1: With a helmet. You look like Sergeant Schultz from Hogan's Heroes.
Speaker 4: Man, I did I did reorn, you know, reorientate my
Speaker 4: camera a little bit to avoid the.
Speaker 1: Conf Well that's a good job there, Jason. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you with my Chicago accent.
Speaker 4: This is this is my built in Dun's cap. I
Speaker 4: think that's what we call.
Speaker 1: Is that what I need? I need a matching one
Speaker 1: from my ball brother. I do want to let you
Speaker 1: guys know what you're looking at here. This shirt, this
Speaker 1: is a Peter This is Peter Murphy's police shirt that
Speaker 1: he gave me when I met up with him in Franklin.
Speaker 1: So I told him I was gonna wear it on air,
Speaker 1: and I forgot about it because I'm always grabbing in
Speaker 1: my closet for these really fancy ones and uh but
Speaker 1: but but this is Peter Murphy's work shirt right here.
Speaker 1: His I mean, there's a place to hook the badge
Speaker 1: on and everything Britt left in camp. Welcome back, Britt.
Speaker 3: I don't know what happened.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's happening.
Speaker 4: I'm glad Bri' because I'm a I'm a brit fan,
Speaker 4: but I'm also Peter Murphy fan. So what a nice guy?
Speaker 1: Yeah he is Peter m Yep, he's a wonderful human being,
Speaker 1: as is Britt Britt. When she starts her YouTube here shortly, man,
Speaker 1: that thing is just gonna it's just gonna blow up. Man,
Speaker 1: It's it's gonna be She's going to destroy this this thing. Man,
Speaker 1: So I can't wait. I think she's a week or
Speaker 1: two away.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, if everything goes according to plan, which
Speaker 3: it usually doesn't, but it doesn't. Yeah, it thinks you
Speaker 3: according to plan. I'm not even gonna say who, but
Speaker 3: December fifteenth will be all I'm.
Speaker 1: Not saying who. It's top secret, top secret. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you the guest that she has because I know
Speaker 1: who it is is someone I really really want to
Speaker 1: have on air, like really for real.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: In fact, I've asked Britt to grease the skids for
Speaker 1: me already because I really really like this this guy.
Speaker 1: So you got you better, Brent. I love this guy.
Speaker 1: He has a great channel, and he's not as big
Speaker 1: as he should be based on his analysis. But but yeah,
Speaker 1: also next week Jason uh is the Listener round Table,
Speaker 1: and the week after that is the sexiest man in
Speaker 1: Canton John Como.
Speaker 4: Oh, I know, I know you're telling the truth because
Speaker 4: that's how he introduced himself to me too.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna tell you the photos I asked him
Speaker 1: to send me. You know, some photos like that would
Speaker 1: indicate that. And I'm gonna tell you. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: that I can stay on YouTube, but I think there's
Speaker 1: one out of the three that I won't get. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, Oh Ossian's what's oh Audie? Aussie insiders in
Speaker 1: the house, what's up home, Darling? I want to say
Speaker 1: this man, I love your accent. Homegirl, someone uh put
Speaker 1: a name to it. I I can't remember what it is.
Speaker 1: But I love your accent. Your laugh does scare me,
Speaker 1: but but I really love you so that that's that's
Speaker 1: what I want to say. And I like your check,
Speaker 1: your laugh. I love I love her laugh. I just said.
Speaker 1: I just feel like it's, you know, like something bad's
Speaker 1: gonna happen, you know what I mean. But I love
Speaker 1: I love her.
Speaker 4: Gett on all of that. I I love bost the Insider.
Speaker 1: So there you go. Man, he's a regular up in there.
Speaker 4: Man, wait, my home channel, I like to call it.
Speaker 4: I love to I love to be a house guest.
Speaker 1: There, no doubt, man, no doubt. Dig your girlfriend, I
Speaker 1: dig you? All right, Well, what you know what, let's
Speaker 1: I'll let Britt have the first question because I've babbled
Speaker 1: enough already. So Britt get after that. Damn Jason, Man
Speaker 1: put him, get him up on there.
Speaker 3: Man, Okay, I'm taking way back. What took you from
Speaker 3: semperfi it's a journalism.
Speaker 4: Well there's quite a gap in those two things.
Speaker 3: So we've got time.
Speaker 4: I always have been. I always have been. Actually it's
Speaker 4: funny because it relates back. So I haven't been in
Speaker 4: the Marine Corps since nineteen ninety six spent a long time,
Speaker 4: but I always have had this thing where one of
Speaker 4: my one of my instructors, not in boot camp, but
Speaker 4: I think it was in advance of street training. There
Speaker 4: was this woman who she was very, very big on
Speaker 4: the First Amendment and that was her whole reason for serving.
Speaker 4: And anytime she said the most controversial things all the time,
Speaker 4: and anytime someone called her out and said you're gonna
Speaker 4: be in trouble for this, she said, I know, my senator,
Speaker 4: and I have my First Amendment right, And she was
Speaker 4: always talking about it. And you know, everyone that goes in,
Speaker 4: becomes a police officer, government official, or joins the military
Speaker 4: takes that oath to up hold and defend the constitution.
Speaker 4: And you know, most of the time when when people
Speaker 4: are going in, they really don't understand what they're taking
Speaker 4: of too. You know, you're going in, especially the military
Speaker 4: or a young kid, and you're going into these situations
Speaker 4: and you don't really understand the constant. You're sure you
Speaker 4: had it in school in civics class or whatever, you
Speaker 4: don't really As you as you get older, you're go
Speaker 4: to appreciate it. And that's kind of how I came
Speaker 4: into this. I it was my topic dujoor on YouTube
Speaker 4: following videos about the First Amendment about journalism. Great lawyers
Speaker 4: like Mark Randazza watched him and interacted with him for years.
Speaker 4: One of my favorite I agree, and the only reason
Speaker 4: that I brought it up. I'm not taking a position
Speaker 4: on the Redskins, or on this lands or any of
Speaker 4: those things. But the reason that I brought it up
Speaker 4: was I do take a position in the First Amendment,
Speaker 4: and it means so much to me. And those are
Speaker 4: the people that I've kind of followed and been interested
Speaker 4: in their work. I am a log geek, so I
Speaker 4: I'm not someone that came to this as a Turtle
Speaker 4: writer or someone who's a huge Turtle Boy fan. I
Speaker 4: came to this from the other direction, and I more
Speaker 4: support his First Amendment activity than I do anything else
Speaker 4: that he does. So for me, it's a big deal.
Speaker 4: And that's that's what led me into I kind of
Speaker 4: fell into it by accident. I started covering this case.
Speaker 4: I started watching the attacks that were coming in on
Speaker 4: him from the likes of Kate Peter Er, Lindsay Gaetani,
Speaker 4: and that you know pesky First Amendment thing that always
Speaker 4: exists in my head just kept coming back and at
Speaker 4: one point I just remember saying, I talk about this
Speaker 4: all the time. It's something that I that I really
Speaker 4: researched the different laws in different states in terms of
Speaker 4: whether states have a reporter shield law and all of
Speaker 4: this stuff, and I just it was such an interesting
Speaker 4: topic to me. I said, why don't I just do this, Like,
Speaker 4: why don't I become an independent journalist? And I just
Speaker 4: made the decision day and that was it. So that
Speaker 4: was back in around worry of last year, and it's
Speaker 4: been off to the races since then.
Speaker 3: And thank you for your service, by the way, Thank you.
Speaker 4: I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and somebody had a common up here was miss Jessica. Uh,
Speaker 1: do you have a moment that you felt the most patriotic?
Speaker 4: Jason, I can tell you about a moment that I
Speaker 4: felt the least patriotic. I think I feel patriotic a lot,
Speaker 4: but there's a moment that I, in retrospect, I feel
Speaker 4: the least patriotic. I grew up. It's not a surprise
Speaker 4: now that I grew up in Chickabe, Massachusetts, right on
Speaker 4: the outskirts of Westover Air reb Air Reserve Base. It
Speaker 4: used to be an active duty based longest runway on
Speaker 4: the East Coast alternate landing site for the Space Shuttle.
Speaker 4: They fly the C five Galaxy out of their largest
Speaker 4: plane in the United States Fleet. And at one point
Speaker 4: during the very beginning of the Desert Storm War, there
Speaker 4: protests that were going on outside the base. And I
Speaker 4: was a teenager not too long before I had joined
Speaker 4: the Marine Corps, and there was people protesting, and I
Speaker 4: went with a group of teenagers. We were rebellious. We
Speaker 4: weren't destroying houses and canton, but what we were doing
Speaker 4: is kind of marching up and down the streets by
Speaker 4: the base, and we were counter protesting the people that
Speaker 4: were protesting, and we thought that was the way to
Speaker 4: go about it. And I'll never forget. There was a
Speaker 4: family and they had a young child, and the young
Speaker 4: child was carrying like a stick with an upside down
Speaker 4: American flag on it, and for some reason, I was
Speaker 4: so offended by seeing that that I laid into the
Speaker 4: parents and I did it loudly. I had a loud
Speaker 4: argument with them. And at the end of that little
Speaker 4: argument that I had, I looked down and the little
Speaker 4: kid was crying. And I know that I made that
Speaker 4: kid cry because they heard me yelling at their father,
Speaker 4: and I was not nice about it, and I went
Speaker 4: through the whole thing, and I thought I was being
Speaker 4: the most patriotic person in the world that day, because
Speaker 4: again I didn't understand the First Amendment and I didn't
Speaker 4: understand how important it was to have this protest in
Speaker 4: these things, so and very it was almost immediate that
Speaker 4: I knew I made a mistake, and I actually believe
Speaker 4: I apologized on site and said I'm sorry, I really
Speaker 4: didn't mean for this, and you know, I hope you
Speaker 4: have a good day, and I walked away. But that
Speaker 4: moment has stuck with me forever since then. I can
Speaker 4: remember I'm telling the story, and I can remember how
Speaker 4: I felt. So that's when I felt the least patriotic,
Speaker 4: and it was ever since then. I think I feel
Speaker 4: equally patriotic every day. So that's the answer to miss Jessica.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so Jessica, excuse me. Christina said united we
Speaker 1: stand and this this is Patrick Henry quote and divided
Speaker 1: we fall. People missed that part because we're always looking
Speaker 1: to what divides us, and that topic you brought up,
Speaker 1: I'd say that that topic you brought up, I would
Speaker 1: say you know, like I'm I'm Jewish, Italian American. You know,
Speaker 1: so like if if it was called the Washington Jew Boys,
Speaker 1: they might be able to find ninety percent of somebody
Speaker 1: that said that's okay. I might say that's not okay.
Speaker 1: Or if it were the Washington Wops, because I'm Italian,
Speaker 1: I might have a problem with that, But they might
Speaker 1: find Italian people would say, no, that's okay. So unless
Speaker 1: it's you, you know, I just stay out of it
Speaker 1: and go, okay, it's you know, that's not my that's
Speaker 1: for people that are of that heritage that might have
Speaker 1: an issue with that. So that's the way I look
Speaker 1: at those things. And this is the reason why I
Speaker 1: stay away from these topics, particularly on cabin even in
Speaker 1: my personal life, is because united we stand divided, we
Speaker 1: follow the morth we find things to fight about and
Speaker 1: to bitch and complain about about someone else. You know,
Speaker 1: if it's not personal to you, it might be personal
Speaker 1: to somebody else. So that's that's how I judicate those
Speaker 1: But what I came here to do is talk about
Speaker 1: Karen Reid. You know what I'm talking about, baby.
Speaker 4: It's true. I can feel it, I do, you know,
Speaker 4: in the in the run up to this, you and
Speaker 4: I had a discussion because obviously the last several appearances
Speaker 4: I've made were about some drama that we're not going
Speaker 4: to talk about tonight. But today, in the run up
Speaker 4: to your show, I find myself in broad than some
Speaker 4: drama again on Twitter, and I definitely don't want to
Speaker 4: talk about it beyond I do want to say something
Speaker 4: because I'm seeing some of the comments that are coming
Speaker 4: in on my Twitter, and I'm seeing some of the things.
Speaker 4: I did reveal the identity of an account today on Twitter,
Speaker 4: and was it mine?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: I mean I didn't. I did. I definitely retweeted your
Speaker 4: invitations to this, so in a way, in a way,
Speaker 4: I guess I did. But I did reveal the identity
Speaker 4: of account today on Twitter. And I have a lot
Speaker 4: of people that have rightfully come at me with criticism, saying,
Speaker 4: but isn't that they do and isn't that like doing
Speaker 4: what the other side does? And doesn't this just carry
Speaker 4: on the drama? And I just want to announce that
Speaker 4: I will have an article. It's not going to be tomorrow,
Speaker 4: so don't be hitting. I'm not going to lie to
Speaker 4: you and say I'm going to staff all night and
Speaker 4: do it tonight. It's going to be sometime within the
Speaker 4: next week, though, about the intersection of this drama and
Speaker 4: the actual case, because as it turns out, I've learned
Speaker 4: a lot more in the last day or two about
Speaker 4: this account that I that I doted today, and I
Speaker 4: learned about the existence of kind of a group of
Speaker 4: accounts that kind of moves from case to case and
Speaker 4: works together, and in several of the cases that they've
Speaker 4: been on, they actually attempt to influence the outcome of
Speaker 4: the case. That's the thing that they always try and
Speaker 4: put on the Free care and read supporters that Turtle
Speaker 4: Boy's attempting to intimidate witnesses and that there's all this
Speaker 4: harassment going on, and that you're trying to taint the
Speaker 4: jury pool and you're trying to get witnesses not to
Speaker 4: testify in the case. It seems that, as I'll be
Speaker 4: revealing details of my article, it seems like this is
Speaker 4: kind of an organized activity that occurs, and in this
Speaker 4: particular case, it appears to be occurring from the other side.
Speaker 4: So there's a reason that some of these accounts all
Speaker 4: ended up here at the same time. There's a reason
Speaker 4: that they stick together. There's a reason that they've interfaced
Speaker 4: with Kate Peter. So I'm not going to get into
Speaker 4: the drama tonight. But for the people who are looking
Speaker 4: at my account and saying, how could you do this?
Speaker 4: I can tell you that the account that I doxed,
Speaker 4: I have at least twelve people in my dms for
Speaker 4: almost a year who have been doxed, chased off Twitter,
Speaker 4: all kinds of things that are associated with that account,
Speaker 4: and that account is part and parcel of this larger
Speaker 4: group than I'm talking about. In their role is almost
Speaker 4: as like the enforcer in there. So so hear me out,
Speaker 4: don't be mad at me, wait a little while, because
Speaker 4: as the information comes out, I think everybody will understand
Speaker 4: why I took the steps I took today. That's all
Speaker 4: I wanted to throw out. There is my kind of
Speaker 4: disclaimer about the drama.
Speaker 1: What is your goal like sort of in the movement?
Speaker 1: How do you what do you see yourself? I mean,
Speaker 1: you have sources and stuff. What do you feel like
Speaker 1: your goal is?
Speaker 4: I do have this. I kind of have this dual purpose, right,
Speaker 4: So I always say this. I talk about being an
Speaker 4: advocate for people, whether it be victims of sexual assault
Speaker 4: or domestic violence, or bullying in general, and sometimes they
Speaker 4: Sometimes those roles of independent journalists and advocate complement each other,
Speaker 4: and sometimes they conflict. My goal is to try and
Speaker 4: do as much of both as I can. So I
Speaker 4: definitely have some information on that comment that was just stuff,
Speaker 4: But my goal is to do as much of both
Speaker 4: as I can. I want to help people in al ways.
Speaker 4: The other area that I advocate for is people who
Speaker 4: are wrongfully accused or wrongfully convicted. So I do think
Speaker 4: that they mess together well. So I guess I have
Speaker 4: a dual purpose here, But if one of them wins
Speaker 4: over the other, it's always that role of advocate or
Speaker 4: protector like that always seems to override. I want to
Speaker 4: be a journalist. I want people to get information from me.
Speaker 4: But if you look at the Society Professional Journalists, even
Speaker 4: if you look at their ethics code, there is a
Speaker 4: section of their ethics code that revolves around doing good
Speaker 4: with your journalism. I don't think that they're mutually exclusive.
Speaker 4: I do think that they can work together. That you
Speaker 4: should always be trying to represent someone who's underrepresented, You
Speaker 4: should always be trying to advocate in a way with
Speaker 4: your writing that you're not harming, but instead you're lifting up.
Speaker 4: And sometimes I've found that I have to do both.
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, I always have
Speaker 4: a larger purpose or a larger you know, people that
Speaker 4: I'm advocating for.
Speaker 1: I'm going to turn it over to there is There is,
Speaker 1: and I mean obviously he's using multiple mediums and people
Speaker 1: trust him, and he's got sources. He was very close
Speaker 1: with Sean before all this blew up close with Eden,
Speaker 1: and that says that you know, there's people in high
Speaker 1: places in the movement that trust him. What my last
Speaker 1: question for I turned this over to brit Happening is
Speaker 1: what sort of is there a piece that you can
Speaker 1: think of that sort of was when you put that out,
Speaker 1: whether it was a piece or tweet, and you just
Speaker 1: had this feeling, like a really positive feeling, like you
Speaker 1: smiled when you got away from the keyboard. Is there
Speaker 1: one that kind of sticks out in your mind? Yeah?
Speaker 4: There is, actually I think the one, and I wrote
Speaker 4: the least of it. I basically wrote an introduction and
Speaker 4: that is a My friend Lisa parel I put out
Speaker 4: a tweet a survivor's story about the horrific abuse that
Speaker 4: she went through, and it wasn't so much that. I mean,
Speaker 4: I obviously wasn't happy about the horrific abuse that she
Speaker 4: went through, but I was happy that she was able
Speaker 4: to find the courage to come and tell her story
Speaker 4: about what it had happened to her, and that I
Speaker 4: was able to facilitate that in a way. So a
Speaker 4: lot of my pieces admittedly are tearing people down based
Speaker 4: on their behaviors and things that they've done, but I
Speaker 4: want I definitely enjoyed that one because it really gave
Speaker 4: me a chance to present a unique perspective about people
Speaker 4: that they didn't know and to see someone who went
Speaker 4: through all of this horrific stuff and has just overcome
Speaker 4: it in the most amazing of ways.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying right there, baby.
Speaker 4: And I have more of those coming. So I won't
Speaker 4: say when, but I have more of those coming. I'm
Speaker 4: definitely working with some other people in those scenarios to
Speaker 4: tell their story, and I think we'll have some that
Speaker 4: are equally impactful as Lisa's was for me.
Speaker 1: I think it was that healing episode after the consternation
Speaker 1: between the attendees and the non ant attendees of the gala.
Speaker 1: I think that one a couple of weeks ago. I
Speaker 1: really had a lot of satisfaction about about that, just
Speaker 1: based on what people were saying in the chat, and
Speaker 1: you know, just kind of like everybody looking through somebody
Speaker 1: else's lens and saying, yeah, I can see how the
Speaker 1: attendees really you know, they didn't. I mean, they just
Speaker 1: were invited to a party and they went, and they
Speaker 1: didn't have control of the guest lists, and they were
Speaker 1: meant to help increase the volume of people that would
Speaker 1: would attend and donate. And then on the other side,
Speaker 1: people that were just busted literally busting their ass and
Speaker 1: putting blisters on their feet for this movement also have
Speaker 1: a right to feel like, hey, they were left out.
Speaker 1: So I think it. You know, everybody, if you can
Speaker 1: this goes for life. If you can look through somebody
Speaker 1: else's lens and see, hey, this is how this person
Speaker 1: might see this situation, then you will feel less aggrieved
Speaker 1: and pissed off about something rather than just looking through
Speaker 1: your own lens. It's always I wonder how that other
Speaker 1: person might feel about this, and if when you can
Speaker 1: do that, it really avoids a lot of sort of
Speaker 1: interpersonal drama and consternation. I'm sorry, go ahead, jeez, No.
Speaker 4: I mean that's a tactic that I endorse fully because
Speaker 4: it's something that I try to do with myself. I
Speaker 4: try to put myself. I always try to understand people's motivations,
Speaker 4: so everyone in these circumstances I want to understand, even
Speaker 4: if I don't agree with it, even if I might
Speaker 4: criticize it, I do want to understand where people are
Speaker 4: coming from and every aspect of everything that I write
Speaker 4: and the stuff that I just consume. And so I
Speaker 4: wholeheartedly agree with your tactic of trying to do that
Speaker 4: because it's something that I live by. I really try
Speaker 4: to put myself into other people's shoes and understand. And frankly,
Speaker 4: I told Aidan Carney after he had his episode where
Speaker 4: he discussed how he felt when he couldn't get into court.
Speaker 4: He wanted to be invited to go sit with them
Speaker 4: in court so bad, and he discussed how it made
Speaker 4: him feel. And I really thought that that was kind
Speaker 4: of a unique perspective. It was like Brandy Churchwell did
Speaker 4: a podcast where she told some of his story and
Speaker 4: you heard how he felt. It really was something that
Speaker 4: was humanizing, and that's an aspect of him that I've
Speaker 4: gotten to know through private conversations that we've had, but
Speaker 4: I really was happy to see him kind of discuss
Speaker 4: some of that and address it and how he applied
Speaker 4: it to that situation of those people. And I love
Speaker 4: the people that stand outside. Man. I've only been to
Speaker 4: a few events. I'll be going to more very shortly.
Speaker 4: It's a four horor round trip for me, so it's
Speaker 4: I can't just pop into every court date that's going
Speaker 4: to get continued. I try to. I try to go
Speaker 4: to as many as I can because those people, they
Speaker 4: make an impression on you and and really like for me,
Speaker 4: I get in trouble for saying this allah the Redskins
Speaker 4: conversation when I say people are my spirit animal, my
Speaker 4: wife always yells at me, you can't say that. But
Speaker 4: those people that stand outside at those at those hearings
Speaker 4: out there and literally stand up out in the cold,
Speaker 4: in the rain, wherever they're going to be to show
Speaker 4: their support, those people are amazing to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, let me let Brent Bridge get in here, please, ma'am.
Speaker 3: Oh No, I was just gonna say, yeah, they're they're
Speaker 3: absolutely inspirational. I will never forget the first time I
Speaker 3: heard Rita Lombardi speak with the authority and the passion
Speaker 3: that that she has, and I think that was you know,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm far away from Massachusetts. It'll be you know,
Speaker 3: very few hearings that I ever intend with this case
Speaker 3: unless I have a huge life change. But when I
Speaker 3: saw Rita.
Speaker 4: Massachusetts baby, we'd love you up here, We'd love you
Speaker 4: up here.
Speaker 3: So when I first saw Rita, though, I felt as
Speaker 3: though she truly was a representation of how the town
Speaker 3: felt about what was going on. That was I think
Speaker 3: the first taste that I had. It was right after
Speaker 3: Lucky law Frings had testified. And she She's something special,
Speaker 3: that's for sure. She's one of those people who is
Speaker 3: just a natural born leader. Yes, you know, she and
Speaker 3: SD and Tom cpu they they are true heroes of
Speaker 3: that area and everybody else out there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's so many of them. And really, when you
Speaker 4: see these people, I will I will say, I'm not
Speaker 4: going to name any names. But when I when I
Speaker 4: did write that piece about Sean on the Gulf, I did.
Speaker 4: I consulted some people the night before I published it
Speaker 4: because I really wanted I know that there's a lot
Speaker 4: of friendships there and things that are happening, and I
Speaker 4: really wanted people to understand, especially those people, why I
Speaker 4: was writing the piece, because I knew some of them
Speaker 4: weren't going to be thrilled with the piece that I
Speaker 4: was writing. But I did take a moment and I
Speaker 4: reached out and I had a conversation with a few
Speaker 4: of them and ian my reasoning, I mean, it was
Speaker 4: not so that we'd still be talking about it now,
Speaker 4: is actually so that we could move forward, which we are.
Speaker 4: But I really those people, to me are the spirit
Speaker 4: of this whole movement, and so what aiden did I
Speaker 4: plan on attending that party that he says he's going
Speaker 4: to have at the end of all this. For them,
Speaker 4: I will go and do my duty there to help
Speaker 4: serve them, because what they're doing for Karen Reid and
Speaker 4: for all of us, frankly standing up for our rights
Speaker 4: is amazing.
Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, And we're all, you know, we're all
Speaker 1: in different stages. We're all in development as people until
Speaker 1: the day we're sort of in that, you know, we're
Speaker 1: either die or we're in that hospice room and we've
Speaker 1: just totally lost it and we're not cognizant of our surroundings. Anymore.
Speaker 1: Hopefully you're in a lifelong quest to develop and evolve
Speaker 1: as a person. Because if you're twenty thirty, forty, fifty
Speaker 1: or sixty or seventy and you think I'm done, I've
Speaker 1: learned everything and there is to learn. I'm a fully
Speaker 1: developed human being. I understand humanity. I understand how to
Speaker 1: interact with humanity. You're probably gonna find out that you're wrong.
Speaker 1: In fact, you will find out that you're wrong, because
Speaker 1: at fifty seven I am now. I've learned things that
Speaker 1: I didn't know at fifty five, and I'm a better
Speaker 1: person now than I was at fifty five. And I
Speaker 1: tell you, you know, I work, you know, I retired
Speaker 1: from the military. I'm back working there again, you know,
Speaker 1: work for Space Force. So I interact with young people
Speaker 1: all day. And oh, they'll speak with they're venerable at
Speaker 1: thirty eight, and I'll tell me, I'm gonna say, brother, man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, man, really, you there's so much
Speaker 1: more to do and learn. And you're not old. They'll
Speaker 1: speak like they're an old person. And I swear you're
Speaker 1: not old. I swear to God, you're not old. To
Speaker 1: promise me so true and it's just what you will
Speaker 1: owe always think that at every stage of your development.
Speaker 1: But if you put in your mind, then you're you're
Speaker 1: still going to learn and improve and understand other people's
Speaker 1: perspectives and and and it'll help us. Actually, Christina set
Speaker 1: it up here. We had this brilliant woman from Holland
Speaker 1: on the other night. I want can somebody help me
Speaker 1: meet with? What her name is? It's Carla, I believe
Speaker 1: her name is. Carla said, you were the owner of
Speaker 1: your own feelings, You're also the owner of how you
Speaker 1: project those feelings. It's all in the delivery. And what
Speaker 1: I would like to add to Christina, my friends, is
Speaker 1: that not only that is, if you're looking at through something,
Speaker 1: you won't feel as aggrieved and pissed off when you
Speaker 1: look at the other person's perspective. So what Judy says here,
Speaker 1: that's what Aiden did. Aiden said, Oh wait a minute,
Speaker 1: I understand how Rita feels because I remember how I
Speaker 1: was barred from court and couldn't get in, So now
Speaker 1: I understand. Then he softened his stance, and then the
Speaker 1: same thing happened with Mike, and Mike and her had
Speaker 1: a dust up, and then Mike made some apologetic tweet
Speaker 1: to her, because you know people and what Carla said
Speaker 1: in her tweet to us excuse me. Carla was in
Speaker 1: the chat with us from Holland earlier in the week,
Speaker 1: and she said, it's if you quickly react to things, generally,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have the wrong response. And I'm paraphrasing because
Speaker 1: she said it a lot more the way that Christina
Speaker 1: said it. But she added in there about these quick
Speaker 1: reactions and reactions of anger and blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: And then you go, oh, man, I shouldn't have said that.
Speaker 1: And I mean, I've had conversation, you know, Britt and
Speaker 1: I have had conversations where I put my foot in
Speaker 1: my mouth and it like you're gotta remove my foot
Speaker 1: from my mouth. So I mean, it happens, but it's
Speaker 1: it's all in being aware of it. And so you know,
Speaker 1: I appreciate what you've done. We've been through a very
Speaker 1: very difficult time. You've written about it thickly, and I'm
Speaker 1: hoping that people can see the other side, understand the
Speaker 1: other side, and kind of figure out what perhaps people's
Speaker 1: motivations may be. I think you've alluded to some of
Speaker 1: them in your writings, but tell you something I was
Speaker 1: interested to do to kind of. I wanted to get
Speaker 1: your take on it. And I think we can take
Speaker 1: turns so everybody can hear our reading voices. So what
Speaker 1: I'd like to do is to do like some paragraphs
Speaker 1: here where we each do a paragraph of Olivia's tweet
Speaker 1: and then get Jason's take on it, and we can
Speaker 1: just see thought bubbles coming out of his head and
Speaker 1: all this neat stuff. Does that sound good? All right,
Speaker 1: I'm even good. I'm gonna put on me reading glasses. Jon,
Speaker 1: I've gone right here. Eh.
Speaker 4: If I put on my glasses, I won't be able
Speaker 4: to see a thing.
Speaker 1: So how's my cocking?
Speaker 3: He was that?
Speaker 1: Okay? Okay, maybe no, he didn't pay attention to everybody.
Speaker 1: Please tip your bartenders and waite staff, everybody. All right,
Speaker 1: here we go. Now I recommend if you're watching right now,
Speaker 1: and we're just gonna we're oh we hear, okay, calling
Speaker 1: all beings. Mike, Mike, Mike, check for Brit. Brit happens. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just because she's in a room that has a
Speaker 1: lot of echo. That's okay. We'll stick a mattress in there.
Speaker 1: We're okay, all right, So now we're going to ignore
Speaker 1: the chat just while we read this, because if you
Speaker 1: go full screen you can read it a lot better, okay,
Speaker 1: and which means we can't and then we can't see
Speaker 1: the chat in your beautiful faces. So where's Kim? All right?
Speaker 1: All right, Jason, let's get us started off and then
Speaker 1: uh and then it'll go britt myself, et cetera.
Speaker 4: All right, So I'm gonna read till when till the.
Speaker 1: First the first paragraph is just Jayson and.
Speaker 4: I read that. The second paragraph is one word. I'll
Speaker 4: take the first hand the second. Okay, it's all your
Speaker 4: should we do We'll do it. Narrator voice, Okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, you know I'm telling you all a bedtime story.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, I'm ready.
Speaker 4: Da. Michael Morrison used his own personal email A coups,
Speaker 4: to intimidate and threaten to sitting judges, the Mass Trial
Speaker 4: Court administrator and a deputy court administrator for the District
Speaker 4: Courts of Mass Why.
Speaker 3: Okay, is this setting better? No?
Speaker 1: You sound great, don't worry about that. We don't care.
Speaker 1: Go ahead. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Because Jen McCabe sent a late night text message about
Speaker 3: how she was horrified and disgusted that miss Salvert was
Speaker 3: not an HPO against journalist Aidan Carney on First Amendment
Speaker 3: protected speech grounds.
Speaker 1: Just the fact that Morrissey will apparently use his power
Speaker 1: to influence the judiciary in order to protect Chris Albert
Speaker 1: and Jen McCabe, a third patty culprit who's been implicated
Speaker 1: by federal evidence in the murder of John O'Keefe, calls
Speaker 1: into question his officer's ability to prosecute any case objectively
Speaker 1: or ethically. I'm sorry, Jesus, I'm gonna go and scroll.
Speaker 4: If he'd sent that email to those people, well, the
Speaker 4: notion that he'd leverage his power to help continue and
Speaker 4: further the cover up of Officer O'Keefe's murder in order
Speaker 4: to help protect these mcalbert third party culprits doesn't seem
Speaker 4: so far fetched.
Speaker 3: And why for the Mcalberts. How is he connected to them?
Speaker 3: Are they friends? Does he know them personally? Does Morrissey
Speaker 3: take such action on behalf of all witnesses and cases
Speaker 3: that his office prosecutes?
Speaker 1: And before I continue, this is the brilliant, the amazing
Speaker 1: at Olivia Lambeau on Twitter. I'm a big fan of her.
Speaker 1: I've told her to bring a sharpie to the dinner,
Speaker 1: the meal of food, and I will let her sign
Speaker 1: my arm, maybe even my head.
Speaker 4: Subsequently get it turned into a tattoo. I love that.
Speaker 1: Yes, Olivia, you can sign my head At the very least.
Speaker 1: Morrissey's email certainly calls into question in what ways, if
Speaker 1: any Adam lallely he's leveraged his power to threaten or
Speaker 1: intimidate the judiciary providing over the Karen Reid case for
Speaker 1: a favorable outcome for the macal bits.
Speaker 4: Is evidenced by his email. He's already done just that
Speaker 4: for Jen McCabe.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll take the next one further. Michael Morrissey conducting
Speaker 3: this ex parte via a personal email account demonstrates clear
Speaker 3: consciousness of guilt. He knew it was inappropriate, so he
Speaker 3: took an offline and misspelled read that's neither here.
Speaker 1: Nor there, okay, and where it helped me out where
Speaker 1: I got lost when I was scrolling? Okay, All right,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, there you are, Okay, Okay. It was a
Speaker 1: clear attempt to evade detection and the accountability that comes
Speaker 1: with this public's right to access the information via the
Speaker 1: Massachusetts Public rep Act. P r A similar to the
Speaker 1: Federal Freedom of Information Act FOYA, as communications made via
Speaker 1: his work email address are obtainable via this law.
Speaker 4: By conducting this exparty action d A, Morrissey further demonstrates
Speaker 4: a consciousness of guilt regarding this apparent active intimidation and
Speaker 4: abuse of power, which may also provide grounds for disqualifying
Speaker 4: his office from prosecuting Aiden Carney.
Speaker 3: Jason, you need to be the new law and order
Speaker 3: guy for real man in the criminal justice system. By
Speaker 3: doing so, and by doing so off am I think
Speaker 3: you're right?
Speaker 1: By doing so is where you start? Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: I am. I to scroll too far?
Speaker 3: So no, no, no, I think you're good at matana,
Speaker 3: He seems to be aware of his off of his
Speaker 3: offices would be Rule fourteen discovery obligations in any future
Speaker 3: prosecution of Carney, whereby taking deliberate steps to avoid its
Speaker 3: disclosure due to the numerous violations that incurs.
Speaker 1: It's striking that Morrissey assigned such urgency and significance to
Speaker 1: Jen McCabe's feelings, prioritizing her emotions to the extent that
Speaker 1: he acted within just five business hours.
Speaker 4: This reason's key questions, how, why, and when did Michael
Speaker 4: Morrissey become aware of Jen McCabe's hurt feelings as expressed
Speaker 4: in her late night text message following Chris Albert failed
Speaker 4: HPO hearing that day September twenty eighth, twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3: Were these messages sent directly i'm m paid to Morrissey
Speaker 3: or were they relayed by a third pidy And.
Speaker 1: If they were forwarded to Morrissey by someone, who was it?
Speaker 1: And why did they think conveyance of such random witnesses
Speaker 1: hurt feelings was important enough to send the county to
Speaker 1: the county prosecutor?
Speaker 4: If forwarded, who passed them along? And what prompted them
Speaker 4: to believe that the horror and discussed feelings of a
Speaker 4: witness warranted the attention of the county prosecutor.
Speaker 3: It should be noted that this information does not appear
Speaker 3: to have been produced in discovery, nor was it disclosed
Speaker 3: by the DA's office.
Speaker 1: What other instances of this clear abuse of power? As
Speaker 1: DA Michael Moore I went Star Wars with you guys
Speaker 1: there right there? Has DA Michael Morrissey or his office
Speaker 1: engaged that we don't know about question Mark?
Speaker 4: Ultimately, Morrissey's actions indicate a troubling misuse of power that
Speaker 4: may undermine his office's credibility, legitimate questions about his ability
Speaker 4: to prosecute Aiden Karney and, by extension, Karen Reid objectively.
Speaker 1: Wow, somebody said, what's up with DJ's Mike? I don't know,
Speaker 1: Michelle Won't went wrong with that? I don't know. So
Speaker 1: what do you guys think? How is that? Said? Jason?
Speaker 1: What's your take on all that that has been illuminated
Speaker 1: by miss uh by miss Olivia Lambeau, the amazing one.
Speaker 4: I was focusing on reading. I don't even know what
Speaker 4: it said. No, just kidding, Olivia is Olivia is amazing
Speaker 4: and she's absolutely right. I mean that there's a there's
Speaker 4: a few kind of watershed moments in this in these
Speaker 4: combined cases right in the of the between the two
Speaker 4: of them, and you know, one of them was the
Speaker 4: police arresting Aiden Karney, the same ones that he'd been
Speaker 4: saying since April were corrupt. This is finding out I
Speaker 4: found this out a little bit before others. But finding
Speaker 4: this information out about the DA Morrisey using that private email,
Speaker 4: that was immediately oh something's wrong here, Like that was
Speaker 4: one of those moments where you look at this case
Speaker 4: and you say, this should never happen, and the fact
Speaker 4: that it did happen is a sign that everything that
Speaker 4: people have alleged coming up to this, that Morrissey was
Speaker 4: a criminal, that all of this stuff was happening, that
Speaker 4: there's a cover up underway. It's just one of those
Speaker 4: It's one of those planks in that floor, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, where you're looking at that and you're saying,
Speaker 4: this is this is real now that he's been caught
Speaker 4: doing this, And every time you see this, you say
Speaker 4: to yourself, this case is going to get dismissed. Aiden
Speaker 4: Carney's case specifically is going to get dismissed. And I
Speaker 4: think what we're going to see, and it's a prediction.
Speaker 4: I think we're going to see the floodgates open. I
Speaker 4: think that I can't think of a defense attorney in
Speaker 4: a case in Norfolk County that is now not going
Speaker 4: to request his emails. They're gonna want to see it.
Speaker 4: This could turn into the Massachuset's drug lab scandal. I
Speaker 4: think that you can't emphasize how important this is enough.
Speaker 1: Britt What do you think about if they did the delete,
Speaker 1: you know, the whole thing, the thirty day delete. That
Speaker 1: means it's not going to be present on his phone
Speaker 1: that Hank is going to be able to see. So
Speaker 1: I think Olivia spoke about that the only way that
Speaker 1: we're going to be able to get those communications is
Speaker 1: if they do a celebrate extraction or the third party.
Speaker 1: So if they get a hold of let's say, if
Speaker 1: he has Verizon or AT and T, they could get
Speaker 1: they could get that information there as well. So now
Speaker 1: I guess what I'm asking you, Britt, is do you
Speaker 1: think that Judge Canoni is included in those exparte communications?
Speaker 3: That depends she didn't seem to be fighting too hard
Speaker 3: on allowing for Morrissey's messages to be turned over. So
Speaker 3: I'm thinking one of a couple things, she either has
Speaker 3: been communicating with him in a way that she knows
Speaker 3: is not going to show up on that phone, whether
Speaker 3: it's because of the text messages being deleted or by
Speaker 3: some other means, or I mean, who knows. Maybe maybe
Speaker 3: she knew that he had his text set to delete
Speaker 3: after thirty days, but on an iPhone, that is the
Speaker 3: quickest setting to self deleet. You can have things, you know,
Speaker 3: either stay forever or stay for three hundred and sixty
Speaker 3: five days or stay for thirty days. So that's the
Speaker 3: quickest one. So maybe maybe she was counting on that,
Speaker 3: So who knows what. I think the way that she
Speaker 3: rules on if there is a motion for a celebrate
Speaker 3: extraction or for you know, Verizon AT and T T
Speaker 3: Mobile to turn those deleted messages over, I think her
Speaker 3: behavior for that motion will be more telling than how
Speaker 3: she's acted for this.
Speaker 1: That that that is that is very true because if
Speaker 1: she denies that motion, you would have to ask why.
Speaker 1: But she's just opening up that appellate door just keeps
Speaker 1: opening wider and wider if she denies it. But let
Speaker 1: me just say, for Ozzie Insider, Hell, yeah, girlfriend, you're
Speaker 1: invited up in this joint. If you if you want
Speaker 1: to come up, if you want to come up here
Speaker 1: and chat with me, you invited girlfriend will and talk
Speaker 1: to you. So uh and yes, I agree with you, Sarah.
Speaker 1: I can listen to her accent all day. I love it.
Speaker 1: So but anyway, so yeah, I think right there, if
Speaker 1: if it's set to delete, then if you are Jackson
Speaker 1: in the Ennay, you run the risk. I mean, she's
Speaker 1: gonna she's gonna rule against your motions anyway, so you
Speaker 1: might as well ask for you know, for that celebrate
Speaker 1: extraction or you know, third party details of all of
Speaker 1: his calls and all of his text messages. Because if
Speaker 1: their moms worked in the lunch room together Jason at
Speaker 1: whatever the hell middle school that was or high school,
Speaker 1: I'd say that's a pretty good bet. What do you
Speaker 1: think let's put let's put percentages. What are the percentages?
Speaker 1: There's X parte conversations between Meetball and Judge Bev.
Speaker 4: I think the percentage is high, but I think the
Speaker 4: percentage of them being something scandalous is low because I
Speaker 4: think that she's probably smarter than he is in terms
Speaker 4: of what communications she's willing to have in writing. So
Speaker 4: I also, you know, I just have to throw out there.
Speaker 4: This is a lot like when we talk about the
Speaker 4: potential conspiracy outside thirty four Fairview and people, you know,
Speaker 4: people on the anti side of this love to say, oh,
Speaker 4: there would be seventy people involved in this conspiracy. We
Speaker 4: all know it could be six people, five people, you know,
Speaker 4: the original core group, and everyone else could have been
Speaker 4: dragged into this unwittingly. They think they're helping a friend,
Speaker 4: they think they're going to just change a word and
Speaker 4: a report to help a police officer get probable cause
Speaker 4: they're going to do all of this, and then they
Speaker 4: find out later that they're a part of a conspiracy.
Speaker 4: I think the same thing could be said here, where
Speaker 4: there are people that would have been part of that
Speaker 4: X party communication and not thought anything of it because
Speaker 4: they weren't doing anything wrong, and then later it comes
Speaker 4: to all of this comes to play and they start
Speaker 4: to say, oh, wait a minute, they extracted this phone
Speaker 4: that those people didn't know that the special prosecutor was
Speaker 4: representing in court in another case that not only had
Speaker 4: they not extracted it, but that they wouldn't until they
Speaker 4: got through this process of having a special master go
Speaker 4: through the phone.
Speaker 1: Right where you could say, okay, this is private, there's
Speaker 1: HIPPA information, there's PII information on there, it's yeah, right.
Speaker 4: So I think that there, I think that there could
Speaker 4: be people who ultimately will get caught up in this
Speaker 4: email gate. I guess, you know, iCloud email, I guess
Speaker 4: we'll call it. But that didn't actually intend to do
Speaker 4: anything wrong or know that we're doing anything wrong in
Speaker 4: the process. And so my so my answer about Judge
Speaker 4: canone is that I don't know how culpable she'll be
Speaker 4: for many communications found in there, because she strikes me
Speaker 4: as being smart enough not to put a legal ex
Speaker 4: party communication in writing in a regardless of what email
Speaker 4: Michael Morrissey's using.
Speaker 1: Is she we'll see, we'll see she she didn't recuse
Speaker 1: herself when given multiple opportunities to not be involved in
Speaker 1: the case, when they showed that maybe, uh was it
Speaker 1: the Nagles, Uh that that that would have rented out
Speaker 1: her Cape Cod cottage and oh no, my name's isn't
Speaker 1: spelled within with an extra e in Beverly with ts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it wasn't me, even though my husband's name is Frank.
Speaker 4: And yeah, I think I think the truth is that
Speaker 4: that's all valid speculation, right, But nobody's closed nobody's closed
Speaker 4: loop on those things. And so that's that that's important.
Speaker 4: And when I look at this, I say to myself
Speaker 4: that again I go back to where I try to
Speaker 4: look at everybody's motivations and every situation. And I can
Speaker 4: think of a motivation why Bev wouldn't recuse herself Because
Speaker 4: I can I can see someone in her position a
Speaker 4: if she believes she's fair, I think that's definitely debatable,
Speaker 4: especially when it comes to her interaction with Alan Jackson.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how could she believe she's fair when she sits
Speaker 1: there and verbally picks on their whole team and even
Speaker 1: did it again just two weeks ago.
Speaker 4: I know, but I think she's fair, but be her
Speaker 4: motivation may not be to advance the corrupt wishes of
Speaker 4: the district attorney. It may simply be to make a
Speaker 4: name for herself. We saw this with the chest that trial.
Speaker 4: No question, there was a mistrial. It was her fault.
Speaker 4: There was a mistrial in the first case. She should
Speaker 4: have never held on to that second case. Yes, they
Speaker 4: made it to a verdict. But the bottom line is
Speaker 4: is her own uh ego, her own notoriety, her own
Speaker 4: you know, maybe she's looking for a job out of
Speaker 4: this as a commentator or as something else. And you
Speaker 4: know she's going to be the judge edo in the
Speaker 4: in the ohj trial, right, So I never I know something,
Speaker 4: Just like in the beginning of this case, I knew
Speaker 4: something was wrong at thirty four, fair of you, I
Speaker 4: knew that something was being covered up and it didn't
Speaker 4: make sense to me if it wasn't the murder of
Speaker 4: John O'Keefe here, something's wrong with her, but I don't quite.
Speaker 4: I haven't closed the loop on well, if it's her
Speaker 4: own ego, her own things, not necessarily that she's part
Speaker 4: of a conspiracy.
Speaker 1: No, and I don't. I don't. I'm not asserting that
Speaker 1: she is well. First before let me do that, Before
Speaker 1: I talk about Judge Bev and Verbo and her Airbnb,
Speaker 1: let me just I want to thank my new friend Sarah,
Speaker 1: Sarah's Shock, Sarah Shock, and Juara, who gave me a
Speaker 1: pretty good grade on saying that the other day. Sarah,
Speaker 1: thank you very much for gifting twenty mine memberships. You're
Speaker 1: really awesome. I'm glad we've had a dialogue of late
Speaker 1: and I look forward to you joining us for dinner
Speaker 1: if there's not a horrific snow Because if there is
Speaker 1: a horrific Nor'easter, we're gonna have Britt and I have
Speaker 1: already come up with a bump plan where she takes
Speaker 1: Uber and I take I don't know how many I'm
Speaker 1: gonna leave New York at like five in the morning
Speaker 1: to get there, so but yeah, anything could go wrong. So,
Speaker 1: but uh, nor' easter is notwithstanding, we're really, really looking
Speaker 1: forward to meeting you there, and now somebody else has
Speaker 1: done that. Who who's this?
Speaker 3: So? Hi Kim?
Speaker 1: Is Kim here?
Speaker 3: The legend?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I didn't see how Oh look Suzanne,
Speaker 1: all right here, I'm gonna do my Lebron James right now, Cleveland,
Speaker 1: this is for you. That's Lebron winning the championship in
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. Hi, Cleveland, No, I know, but you know
Speaker 1: what I need the truth about Suzanne. I need the
Speaker 1: truth about your shirt size so I can bring one
Speaker 1: to you when we show up at the dinner. You
Speaker 1: and Peter Meffi, okay, all right? Who else we have
Speaker 1: to say? Hello? Here? Side By and Grill, thank you
Speaker 1: so much. I think you donated memberships last time. You're amazing.
Speaker 1: God bless you. I know you didn't sneeze, but God
Speaker 1: bless you, and thank you very much for doing that.
Speaker 1: You're incredibly generous. Now I've been told that Nurse Kim
Speaker 1: is here? Who is a veritable superstar in this joint?
Speaker 1: Where's Nurse Kim? Where is she? I don't is she
Speaker 1: down at the bottom? Where's Nurse Kim is? Where is she? Pasted?
Speaker 1: Side By and Grilly Kim?
Speaker 3: Can I tell can I tell them what you told
Speaker 3: me this morning?
Speaker 1: Was it about my hair? Because if I'm not sensitive?
Speaker 3: Okay, no, no, no, nothing to do with your hair.
Speaker 3: A special follower on Twitter?
Speaker 1: You did follower?
Speaker 4: I already was following her. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: Oh it wasn't Jason or myself because we've been following
Speaker 1: for six months.
Speaker 3: All right, go ahead, I want to make sure it's
Speaker 3: cool with her, so she says, go for it. Guys,
Speaker 3: David yet followed Nurse Kim today.
Speaker 1: Can I get an.
Speaker 3: Followed my Happy Dance?
Speaker 4: I followed David Yanetti once, but the cops told me
Speaker 4: to knock it off.
Speaker 1: So the night Jason stop it.
Speaker 3: She's officially a star.
Speaker 1: I mean, Kim's officially been a star since like the
Speaker 1: moment she started doing this. Should we do you guys
Speaker 1: want us to tell us in the chat? You want
Speaker 1: us to read more? Because that was kind of fun.
Speaker 1: I'll bring up another Olivia another one of Olibya's posts.
Speaker 1: Would you guys do you think we should read some
Speaker 1: more and then react? I don't know, tell me in
Speaker 1: the chat. Thank you very much for you generous people.
Speaker 1: You guys are like beyond awesome. Everett Love Nurse yeah,
Speaker 1: we gotta get the nurse Kim loven air rony with Cheeze.
Speaker 4: I just keep going to events down there because I'm
Speaker 4: hoping eventually I actually run into Nurse Kevin Meter in person.
Speaker 4: So that's my.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Okay, do you think that Morrissey knows how to
Speaker 5: spell Karen read?
Speaker 3: Or do you think that the misspellings? I mean, do
Speaker 3: you think the misspellings were a mistake because.
Speaker 1: It auto corrects, like it doesn't auto react to R
Speaker 1: E A D right.
Speaker 4: Now, It autill corrects it all the time. So and
Speaker 4: I mean, I have doubts that I'm starting to feel
Speaker 4: that Morrissey might be one step above Ken Mellow in
Speaker 4: terms of his legal skill and acumen. And I'm the
Speaker 4: truth of the matter is he's never been known for
Speaker 4: his legal skill. He's not He's a He's a politician,
Speaker 4: right And at the end of the day, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: I'm going to actually out this because I feel like
Speaker 4: I can. In the western part of the state and Springfield,
Speaker 4: mass there was a state senator or representative I don't remember,
Speaker 4: by the name of Brian Lees, and for a period
Speaker 4: of time my father worked with him at a non
Speaker 4: political job and there was a memo that came out,
Speaker 4: and I'm sure he didn't type his own memos. I'm
Speaker 4: sure it was the you know, he was the boss,
Speaker 4: and I'm sure it was a secretary that made a mistake.
Speaker 4: But instead of Brian Lees, they wrote brain less, so
Speaker 4: they spelled both his first name wrong and his name wrong.
Speaker 4: And and he yet he wasn't smart enough to stop that.
Speaker 4: I'm just kidding. He was actually a really nice guy,
Speaker 4: and he probably was smart enough. He probably didn't see
Speaker 4: it before it went out. But I think things like
Speaker 4: that happen, and I do think that every time I'm
Speaker 4: tweeting about Karen Reid or I'm doing something, I'm always
Speaker 4: going back and overriding the auto correct. So I think
Speaker 4: it probably was somewhere along the line that happened. But
Speaker 4: I'll hold out a little bit of possibility these shits
Speaker 4: to moron.
Speaker 1: So all right, all right, man, I've got the thing on.
Speaker 1: I was looking for more stuff on Olivia and it's
Speaker 1: like she has so much stuff, but this one is
Speaker 1: on Shannon Burgess. So I don't know if you guys
Speaker 1: would find that entertaining to read, but if so, I
Speaker 1: will bring it up, and if not, I will, I
Speaker 1: will not. It's yah Chi Yeah, Jason Bryles, I got
Speaker 1: a I got an amen from from uh Ozzie Insider
Speaker 1: and and since she's the boss, and you know, like
Speaker 1: if she giggles, I'm probably gonna like hide under the desk.
Speaker 1: So but yeah, I definitely gotta get a thumbs up
Speaker 1: from you and Britt.
Speaker 4: I feel like I also feel like I need to
Speaker 4: now that you mentioned that on Thursdays and now I
Speaker 4: think we're gonna do a different day going forward. But
Speaker 4: I've been doing the Little Spaces event with Lacy Jane,
Speaker 4: and I don't know. I think the reason that I've
Speaker 4: done so many of those is that when Lacey laughs,
Speaker 4: she snorts, and I find it so entertaining that I
Speaker 4: literally go on the paper just to make her laugh
Speaker 4: because it makes me laugh every time she laughs. So
Speaker 4: I do think that I think there's some validity in
Speaker 4: your observation about Oss the Insider.
Speaker 1: I love her, man all right, So I'll bring this
Speaker 1: up and real quick, I was just gonna say about
Speaker 1: Judge BIV. I mean, like her bringing up the whole
Speaker 1: thing about saying, hey, mister Lowly, do you want to
Speaker 1: object not demanding that they state the nature of their objection.
Speaker 1: I think it really really derailed. When you have high
Speaker 1: powered attorneys that are really good on these sort of
Speaker 1: building on these narratives that you're sort of you have
Speaker 1: to start them. They develop and they crescendo, and I
Speaker 1: feel like they were able to Uh Susanna was I
Speaker 1: was smart and weaken snort laugh. I have that too. Sometimes.
Speaker 1: I guarantee I'm gonna be doing it that night in Massachusetts.
Speaker 1: We might end up taking a damn uber back to
Speaker 1: the hotel. Now, so all right, I'm gonna bring this
Speaker 1: up and let's see if we can get to it.
Speaker 1: And once again, we're gonna start out with our guest
Speaker 1: of honor uh and by the thank you for thank
Speaker 1: you for all the gifted memberships. And now you're gonna
Speaker 1: hear the dulcet tones of Jason and the very poetic
Speaker 1: voice of brit happens. And then you'll bear with me.
Speaker 1: So how does that look? Can you guys read that?
Speaker 3: Is that?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 4: I'm good with it.
Speaker 1: Okay, there we go, Gop Fortunes.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna change to a different voice, I think. Okay,
Speaker 4: Mike the common Wells new Expert, I'm kidding. Despite the
Speaker 4: Commonwealth's new expert Shannon Burgess not knowing the basic difference
Speaker 4: between bits and bites, a mistake that should give the
Speaker 4: CW pause about having him conducting any potentially destructive testing
Speaker 4: on such critical evidence. Hank Brennan actually argued that their
Speaker 4: expert is very astute.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Britten, arguing that your supposed expert in vehicle
Speaker 3: data storage chips is a very astute. I don't think
Speaker 3: she meant to put a there is very astute. When
Speaker 3: he confused gigabits with gigabytes. Is like saying your distance
Speaker 3: measurements expert is very astute. When they don't know the
Speaker 3: difference between inches and miles, it's laughable.
Speaker 1: Nonetheless, due to the Commonwealth s Malefeasance Karen Read yet
Speaker 1: again had to find it higher an actual competent expert,
Speaker 1: Matthew di Sigara, who accurately pointed, top they're just fundamental
Speaker 1: that's a misunderstanding of the data components. How's that? Jason?
Speaker 1: Was that okay?
Speaker 4: Magically delicious?
Speaker 1: Rather than come on, can I get some from the
Speaker 1: chat from Irishi? Come on?
Speaker 4: Rather than oh sorry, are you ready?
Speaker 1: Yes, sir?
Speaker 4: Take take two, rather than promptly filing an amended report
Speaker 4: or seeking out a new competent expert who doesn't disqualify
Speaker 4: himself from being an expert by not knowing the difference
Speaker 4: between bits and vites. Hank Brennan doubled down today in
Speaker 4: court hold on in an argument that raises deeply troubling
Speaker 4: questions about the CW's intent with this new request.
Speaker 3: Not only did Brennan defend his incompetent expert as being
Speaker 3: highly qualified and very astute after huge blunder, he even
Speaker 3: argued that he should be allowed to perform the highly specialized,
Speaker 3: delicate and potentially destructive testing on these data chips that
Speaker 3: the Commonwealth's own experts slash witnesses testified were completely destroyed
Speaker 3: during the destructive chip off procedure previously conducted.
Speaker 1: Furthermore, Brennan argued that they should be allowed to have
Speaker 1: their incompetent expert do this procedure in secrecy without the
Speaker 1: defense's expert present. Now, this was a huge red flag
Speaker 1: and particularly struck me as odd.
Speaker 4: Sorry you got me.
Speaker 1: There you go top of the screens.
Speaker 4: In fairness, I was trying to reply to a DM
Speaker 4: from Bretza. Forget about wanting to push forward with someone
Speaker 4: who's clearly unqualify to handle evidence so paramount to this case,
Speaker 4: But why would you have any problem with the defensive
Speaker 4: expert being present if you weren't hiding anything or trying
Speaker 4: to pull some funny business.
Speaker 3: The defendant has a right to have her expert present,
Speaker 3: particularly for testing that's potentially destructive or exhausted. Djay's scroll
Speaker 3: and real quick, is.
Speaker 1: This some good? I'm sorry?
Speaker 6: And why is Hank Brennan so insistent on keeping the
Speaker 6: defenses far superior, more qualified expert out while wanting to
Speaker 6: rush forward into testing with this unqualified expert.
Speaker 4: This truly makes one question what the Commonwealth's real motivations
Speaker 4: and true intentions are here, because they certainly don't seem honest.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Go ahead, go ahead, good Nurse Kim, can
Speaker 1: you read mine for the next one please?
Speaker 3: But beyond all of that, what's the critical importance that
Speaker 3: Hank Brennan doesn't seem to understand is that his experts
Speaker 3: misunderstanding and fundamental error confusing gigabits and gigabytes means that
Speaker 3: his conclusions that there are more data not yet retrieved
Speaker 3: from the chips is entirely false.
Speaker 1: Okay, and where am i? Uh? Okay am I? So
Speaker 1: the question is now all of the data, all of
Speaker 1: the data we're retrieved from the data chips during the
Speaker 1: destructive chip off procedure performed during the last trial. In
Speaker 1: other words, having Shining Badness perform any sort of procedure
Speaker 1: on these chips would be futile as there is no
Speaker 1: data left to be retrieved for cotsakes.
Speaker 4: I didn't see that, lay, I'm greeting doctor Sheril and
Speaker 4: he gets fired the first time you read you added
Speaker 4: just at the beginning too. But the current issue, as
Speaker 4: it relates to the data that have already been retrieved
Speaker 4: from the chips, is that the Burlas software that reads
Speaker 4: the data on these chips didn't come out with an
Speaker 4: update for the twenty twenty one Lexas LX five seventy
Speaker 4: until late December twenty twenty three. From my research, coincidentally,
Speaker 4: just days after the Commonwealth, with help from the defense
Speaker 4: expert Maggie Gaffney, performed the destructive chip off procedure. What
Speaker 4: a coincidence, huh.
Speaker 3: Huh. So the question now is what is the Commonwealth
Speaker 3: up to? Why would they want to exclude the defense's
Speaker 3: expert from being present during testing on data chips that
Speaker 3: they already have all the data front and why is
Speaker 3: the Commonwealth still misrepresenting to the court that there are
Speaker 3: any data left to retrieve when Pink brendan concession today
Speaker 3: in court that his expert did in fact the stake
Speaker 3: bits for bites proved this not to be true. What say.
Speaker 1: You, Jason? Hashtag can't cover up? Hashtag? Olivia Lambeau, You're amazing,
Speaker 1: we love you.
Speaker 4: I think that it actually, really I think it's a
Speaker 4: strategic error for him to have started out his appearance
Speaker 4: in this case in that way. Obviously there was he
Speaker 4: there wasn't much he could do about the fact that
Speaker 4: he made the mistake between the bits and the bites.
Speaker 4: It was kind of ridiculous. But how Brennan chose to
Speaker 4: approach that to me, why would you even request that,
Speaker 4: you know how bad it's going to look when you
Speaker 4: request that the defense is expert not be there. I
Speaker 4: know he was trying to make some point in regard
Speaker 4: to trying to lay this concept of you can't trust
Speaker 4: the defenses experts and the defense. It's just really it's
Speaker 4: bad form, it's bad lawyering, it's bad all the way around.
Speaker 4: You want to enter a case, and I'm not a lawyer,
Speaker 4: but I can I can give a bit of loyally
Speaker 4: advice here. You want to enter a case in any
Speaker 4: way you can to avoid pissing off the judge, and
Speaker 4: that is not to take unnecessary jobs. At the other side,
Speaker 4: you want to represent your client and get your jobs in.
Speaker 4: But to come right off the bat and basically make
Speaker 4: a statement that the defenses experts can't be trusted, that's
Speaker 4: not going to be met well in court, and it
Speaker 4: doesn't make you look well out of the gate. You
Speaker 4: want to come in and look liker. Your goal is
Speaker 4: not to convict Karen Read. Your goal is to get
Speaker 4: to the truth of the matter. And when you're trying
Speaker 4: to hide things right out of the gate, it's a
Speaker 4: horrible look.
Speaker 1: I wanted to own up to Kevin. I absolutely did
Speaker 1: go Northern England and Irish all in the same one
Speaker 1: and to like stort a straight British RP. So you're
Speaker 1: one hundred percent right. I think it was a serner here.
Speaker 1: I totally screwed that one, the one on that was bad,
Speaker 1: so I wasn't able to I switched like right in
Speaker 1: the middle, so and I didn't get I didn't get
Speaker 1: any Scottish in this time. Let me see I've done
Speaker 1: my my my Scottish in a while. There's a great
Speaker 1: UFO host named Andy mcgrillan. I kind of he's from Glasgow,
Speaker 1: so I sort of use that glass region as my
Speaker 1: template for for Scottish. But yeah, i'd have to like
Speaker 1: i'd have to get in it. But thank you, thank
Speaker 1: you very much, Kim. I mean, next time you come on,
Speaker 1: we're definitely gonna do readings because I want to hear
Speaker 1: you do a dramatic reading and I think it'll just
Speaker 1: blow everybody away. I know it'll blow me away.
Speaker 4: I also got I just want to say I heard
Speaker 4: a little foghorn leghorn in there too, So I didn't
Speaker 4: know what was going on. I was definitely was. I
Speaker 4: was having a moment of like southern plantation owner working
Speaker 4: its way into that accent.
Speaker 1: Why all right, let me put this one. Let me say,
Speaker 1: what's up to romy love Romi with cheese. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much for your nine ninety nine gift to calling
Speaker 1: all beings sidebar and grill and Sarah and shocking Hai
Speaker 1: rah uh. Jonathan Keith was my friend and I loved him.
Speaker 1: Jennifer McCay. Jennifer mccob I'm sorry, all right, I'm back
Speaker 1: with you guys now in the private chat, Nurse Kim
Speaker 1: in the chat, yeah, I didn't. Sorry, I didn't see
Speaker 1: Nurse Kim in there. A super staff in Susanne, Cleveland,
Speaker 1: for God's sakes, is yet so.
Speaker 4: Being from the western part of Messages, I feel like
Speaker 4: such a fraud because we don't have that accent. I mean,
Speaker 4: and so I'm out. People are like, oh, you're gonna
Speaker 4: pox the con haved yad and I'm like, no, I'm not,
Speaker 4: because that's not I lived ninety miles west of Austin
Speaker 4: and we just never never the accent never made it
Speaker 4: that far.
Speaker 1: Rasmussen, you hear enough from me, man, you know, you
Speaker 1: know how much your presence means you hear from me?
Speaker 1: Oh damn time. Anyway, You know what, we have a
Speaker 1: lot of people in this community that have no accent.
Speaker 1: Maza doesn't have an accent, right, he has no accents.
Speaker 1: He's right in the belly of the beast. Brian has
Speaker 1: a little bit. So it's really interesting, you know that
Speaker 1: that some people just don't. I'm trying to think of
Speaker 1: who else. I've heard Suzanne, our friend who's in the Chats,
Speaker 1: who's in Cleveland, does not have a very strong accent.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's your parents kind of demand. And my parents
Speaker 1: did not want us to have a New York accent.
Speaker 1: And if we came home speaking like that, my dad
Speaker 1: would correct me. You know, he just he was not down.
Speaker 1: He grew up in Brooklyn and he did not want
Speaker 1: us to talk like that, even if we were hanging
Speaker 1: around people that were from the city. Kevin the Sallyport camera,
Speaker 1: once again, thank you for the the forgiveness on me
Speaker 1: mixing you know, fog Horn, Leghorn, Northern England and Irish
Speaker 1: all in one one reading do the panel thing. Think
Speaker 1: Hank Brennan should get consideration on not understanding procedure from Canoni.
Speaker 1: Given Lally his second chair, we're doing, Oh that resonates
Speaker 1: with Britt because she's a saxophone player. Go ahead, Jason,
Speaker 1: what's your opinion on this, and then we'll go to Britt.
Speaker 4: Please, Well, Britt would be first chair in my ORCHESTRALI
Speaker 4: I just want to put that out there, but.
Speaker 1: I have lunch with you, Jason. I want you to know.
Speaker 4: That that's true. What I'm yeah, yeah, I'm in I
Speaker 4: love that. But in terms of that, no, I mean
Speaker 4: he he gets a little bit of consideration from being
Speaker 4: a defense attorney attorney and not a prosecutor for so long,
Speaker 4: so I will give him. I will give him that.
Speaker 4: But Lally, I mean, no one, no one has to
Speaker 4: the Someone posts the clip the other day of David
Speaker 4: Dynetti walking over and saying something to Hank Brennan and
Speaker 4: like mentioning something at the prosecution table, and Lally didn't
Speaker 4: even blink like he did in Flint. He just stared
Speaker 4: straight ahead. I actually thought for a minute there that
Speaker 4: it might be a cardboard cutout of Lally that they
Speaker 4: put in place on the chair for that portion, because
Speaker 4: it was it was almost like robotics. So when I
Speaker 4: was looking at it, I just said to myself that
Speaker 4: dude is literally just a body that they've put here.
Speaker 4: I think they the bottomized him before they send him
Speaker 4: back into court because there was no just no human
Speaker 4: reactions were happening from him. So I won't I won't.
Speaker 4: I won't blame Hank for any not picking up anything
Speaker 4: from him.
Speaker 1: Britt, What's what's your thought about should Hank it consideration?
Speaker 1: I'm not understanding procedure from Canoni. Remember when she said, oh,
Speaker 1: mister Lally will show you how to fill out the flambe.
Speaker 3: The forum, I saw very few signs of life myself
Speaker 3: from Brennan. I have a few, very small thoughts on that. Yes,
Speaker 3: I'm with you, Jason, he at least in a very
Speaker 3: long time, has not prosecuted a case. I also feel
Speaker 3: like Hank has a kind of a dual purpose of
Speaker 3: being there. I feel like he is there to somewhat
Speaker 3: backhandedly defend Morrissey in the process of prosecuting Karen. So
Speaker 3: you know, that's why I believe that Morrissey even brought
Speaker 3: on a defense attorney in the first place, And that
Speaker 3: may also serve as a little bit of a cover
Speaker 3: so that if there are any moves made, motions made
Speaker 3: that are just blatantly wrong, Hank can have a little
Speaker 3: bit of plausible deniability. I don't know, I don't have
Speaker 3: a ton of thoughts there, but.
Speaker 4: I actually think that's an interesting take, because I mean,
Speaker 4: I think at this point there's probably ninety nine point
Speaker 4: five to nine certainty that Morsey has engaged a defense
Speaker 4: attorney for himself already, especially, I mean, it would be
Speaker 4: ridiculous to think that he wouldn't because everyone, including him,
Speaker 4: thinks he's the probe of the FBA. You know, he's
Speaker 4: the subject of the FBI probe. But I also do
Speaker 4: think that you're You're right. I think even if it
Speaker 4: wasn't an intention, he certainly could play into that in
Speaker 4: terms of his inexperience in order to cover some of
Speaker 4: his mistakes in court. And on top of that though,
Speaker 4: I think it's interesting that you bring up that way
Speaker 4: because I felt that when I heard that Morrissey was
Speaker 4: I mean that Brennan was the one reviewing Morrisey's iCloud
Speaker 4: email account to see what was disclosable or not disclosable.
Speaker 4: I did that kind of struck me because I you know,
Speaker 4: to me, it was almost like, you want a taint
Speaker 4: team like they talk about. I laugh every time I
Speaker 4: say taint, But you want a taint team like that
Speaker 4: they they talk about, or a special master to go
Speaker 4: through those things because it's not just an issue in
Speaker 4: this case. That's the point that I can't make enough.
Speaker 4: We know it's an issue in Turtle Boy's case. We
Speaker 4: know that the attorneys here have done it. But my
Speaker 4: prediction is that the floodgates are gonna open, and we're
Speaker 4: gonna see it in cases both open and emotions for
Speaker 4: new trials, for cases that have already closed.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, relative to that question, I feel like Hank should
Speaker 1: have known. I don't know if it was Mark that
Speaker 1: I heard on or I think actually was Melanie Little
Speaker 1: that he's, you know, admitted to the bar in Massachusetts.
Speaker 1: He should be aware of certain procedures. And I don't
Speaker 1: think he looked particularly awesome. I have a diet tribe
Speaker 1: I can do about Hank, and maybe I'll throw it
Speaker 1: out here and get your reaction and then we have well,
Speaker 1: you know, let's get to something funny first, because we
Speaker 1: have something funny here from Kim, a mission that she's doing.
Speaker 1: She Oh, by the way, you can follow there's Kim
Speaker 1: on YouTube and TikTok. I'm sure all of you are
Speaker 1: a because all of you are you know, I haven't
Speaker 1: been living under any sort of a rock. So what
Speaker 1: I want to say about Hank is this, because this
Speaker 1: came up today on Twitter or yesterday, and I and
Speaker 1: I there was a messaging brid about it. People that
Speaker 1: think that Hank is some sort of a man of
Speaker 1: principle and man of morals and could potentially because he
Speaker 1: has the authority as the special Assistant District Attorney in
Speaker 1: this case. So there's two things I'll tell you I
Speaker 1: don't believe, and this is the first one. And that
Speaker 1: he would potentially see evidence that would be exculpatory of
Speaker 1: and Karen and therefore see that there's no point of
Speaker 1: prosecuting this case and therefore dismiss it. So I got
Speaker 1: to tell you this that ain't happening in this lifetime. Okay,
Speaker 1: that is not happening because and I'm going to tell
Speaker 1: you why. So if you have faith in Hank and
Speaker 1: you think he's a good guy and he's he's he's
Speaker 1: per secuted for government corruption, I want to just disabuse
Speaker 1: you of this notion. Morrissey is a very cunning and
Speaker 1: very devious figure and a very smart figure, and that's
Speaker 1: how he's gotten where he is for this period of time,
Speaker 1: as despicable a person as he might be. He will
Speaker 1: have interviewed Hank Brennan extensively. He will have laid out
Speaker 1: his theory of the case and his facts of the case,
Speaker 1: and he will have one hundred percent certainty in his
Speaker 1: mind that he's going forward with this case to the end. Actually,
Speaker 1: I have three things to tell you. The second thing
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you is he's not going to convict Karen.
Speaker 1: He knows that they're not going to convict Karen because
Speaker 1: he knows there's a mountain of reasonable doubt here, as
Speaker 1: Mark Bero has so eloquently put out on a number
Speaker 1: of occasions. Okay, so they are going for another hung jury.
Speaker 1: That's what they're going for. They just didn't want to
Speaker 1: get a complete acquittal. And they knew in the hands
Speaker 1: of Lally and with the same knuckleheads that were on
Speaker 1: the stand for the prosecution last time, Trooper Paul, Trooper
Speaker 1: Proctor Buchinick, Trooper Guarino, and all these meatheads, that they
Speaker 1: could potentially see this woman acquitted. So Hank was hired
Speaker 1: to get another hung jury. And you know, they could
Speaker 1: use all their little tricks to try to dismiss somebody
Speaker 1: who looked pro Karen like they did last time, and
Speaker 1: they'll do the exact same thing this time. And they
Speaker 1: know they're gonna end up with at least one holdout.
Speaker 1: So that's what they're going for here, is going for
Speaker 1: a hung jury. And there is zero chance that Hank
Speaker 1: is gonna Oh, if he just talked to Josh Levy
Speaker 1: and went down and spoke with the FBI, he would No,
Speaker 1: he's not doing that. He and I'm gonna make the
Speaker 1: third thing. The third issue is that these guys are
Speaker 1: competitive people. They want to win, and he wants to
Speaker 1: show I can kick the shit out of this dream
Speaker 1: team that they brought in there, the California lawyer, he's
Speaker 1: really from Texas, and then Davey and Eddie and then
Speaker 1: this other goomba they brought in from New York.
Speaker 3: Robert LISSI.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's what he's thinking. He's saying, I want
Speaker 1: to kick these guys ass. There is zero chance he's
Speaker 1: going to do Smith's this case and I'm finished. Go ahead,
Speaker 1: please go ahead, Jason.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I think you're right. I think there would
Speaker 4: have been a litmus test for any lawyer that was
Speaker 4: going to come on that you had to agree in
Speaker 4: advance that you were here to take the case and
Speaker 4: that you were going to prosecute the case, not that
Speaker 4: you were gonna you know, there was aut that talk
Speaker 4: in the beginning, I'm going to take a fair look
Speaker 4: at the evidence and no, no, you were There's no
Speaker 4: way you were coming onto this case unless you were
Speaker 4: committed to prosecuting it right from the start. I think
Speaker 4: you say that there is zero chance. I do think
Speaker 4: that if something outrageous comes out in court, there is
Speaker 4: a chance that we get the Alec Baldwin situation happening,
Speaker 4: where you have the special prosecutor in that case, it
Speaker 4: was revealed that there was this egregious behavior by the
Speaker 4: prosecutor by the DA in that case, and then the
Speaker 4: special prosecutor then said I'm not I don't want any
Speaker 4: part in this, and he walked out. I think we
Speaker 4: have the chance for something like that here. If something
Speaker 4: horrific comes out about Morrissey's emails, or we find out
Speaker 4: that there's been some other kind of ex partey communication
Speaker 4: that literally spells out that the fixes in or that
Speaker 4: they've completely violated Karen's rights, I think there's a chance
Speaker 4: that he At some point everyone, I know, we don't
Speaker 4: talk politics, but at some point everyone makes a political calculation,
Speaker 4: just like we haven't reached that point with the governor
Speaker 4: and the Attorney general in mass yet, but at some
Speaker 4: point the scale tips and people say I'm getting the
Speaker 4: heck out of this.
Speaker 1: You know, and if you could do me a favorite,
Speaker 1: Britt and you could scroll up. There was someone that
Speaker 1: had a question for you guys, all in caps. I
Speaker 1: want to make sure I don't miss that. Just help
Speaker 1: me out with that. Thank you. Yeah, I want to
Speaker 1: say I want I want to say thank you to
Speaker 1: Mavis Kane, thank you so much for the ten dollars.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. And MAVs and that is a
Speaker 1: female name. I think Bev has be more restrained. She's
Speaker 1: already toned down the blonde. I happen to agree with you, Mavis.
Speaker 1: The hair color I think is a window into Bev.
Speaker 1: If she shows up with dark highlights, if she shows
Speaker 1: up with blue or pink tones, I'm gonna become very concerned.
Speaker 1: I think the hair color is very significant. Jason, would
Speaker 1: you agree?
Speaker 4: I definitely do. I think it's probably the most important thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, yeah, I just you know them,
Speaker 1: brit says Jennifer. The best impression of herself absolutely. I mean,
Speaker 1: let's face it, I think Kim could probably do the best.
Speaker 1: The nurse Kim. I love listening to you and your accent.
Speaker 1: Most people don't like the sound of their own voice. Yes, Kim, Well,
Speaker 1: Kim has heard me say how much I love her accent.
Speaker 1: Let me just say this for the crowd. So, being
Speaker 1: in the Air Force for twenty one years and then
Speaker 1: I've had like another I don't know, eleven years, twelve years,
Speaker 1: and and other government gigs, you get to know people
Speaker 1: from all over the country. Jason knows this from being
Speaker 1: in basic and even in his you know, the time
Speaker 1: he was in the Marine Corps. You hear accents from everybody.
Speaker 1: And it is so awesome to hear people from Washington
Speaker 1: and Idaho and Wisconsin versus Minnesota. What are the subtleties
Speaker 1: between Wisconsin and Minnesota and Chicago, uh, and all these
Speaker 1: different regions and Texas, you know, the is a very
Speaker 1: different accent than Louisiana and Alabama. So I love accents
Speaker 1: and I've always loved them, and Kim has just an amazing,
Speaker 1: wonderful accent.
Speaker 4: Even the regional words, right, like you learn what they call.
Speaker 4: You know, you hear a grinders, I'm gonna go to
Speaker 4: a subway and get a sandwich, you know what I
Speaker 4: mean somewhere else other places that's the parking lot, right
Speaker 4: like you have all of these you have all of
Speaker 4: these words that it's really interesting. It's an interesting perspective
Speaker 4: that people who weren't in the military don't usually get.
Speaker 4: And I do think there's almost this thing where you
Speaker 4: could you could solve a lot of society's ills by
Speaker 4: I'm not a fan of conscription service, but you could
Speaker 4: solve a lot of society's ills because it's going to
Speaker 4: be really hard for you to be in the military
Speaker 4: and be a racist. It's going to be really hard
Speaker 4: for you to be in the military and be a sexist.
Speaker 4: It's going to be really hard for you to be
Speaker 4: in these different positions because you are forced into these
Speaker 4: situations where you work with such a diverse group of
Speaker 4: people and in all kind of for a common goal.
Speaker 4: You're all there for the same reason, and it really
Speaker 4: does bring people together in a way that you don't
Speaker 4: normally see necessarily in everyday society. It's a really neat
Speaker 4: that Probably my favorite aspect of having been in the
Speaker 4: military is that I got a chance to have my
Speaker 4: eyes open to a much wider worldview than I would
Speaker 4: have gotten had I stayed, had I continued my career
Speaker 4: as a music major at the local community college for
Speaker 4: one semester.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the people, the only people that really Jason's one
Speaker 1: hundred percent correct to interact with people from all over
Speaker 1: the country. The people that hold onto that are really
Speaker 1: the true racist, the people that really just want to
Speaker 1: ideal their their ideal logus, that really just want to
Speaker 1: belong to a group they want to hate. There's people
Speaker 1: that want the people that sit there and watch cable
Speaker 1: news all day long, they're the people that they want
Speaker 1: to hate somebody, so they want to they want to
Speaker 1: hate whoever the other side is. So they just consume
Speaker 1: that cable news and they let it just agitate them,
Speaker 1: and then they they go out and they spew it.
Speaker 1: And you do have those people that hold on to it,
Speaker 1: but they're you know, and they'll get kicked out. You know.
Speaker 1: They'll go do room inspection over there at Fort Bragg
Speaker 1: and they'll find that someone has like Nazi flags on
Speaker 1: their wall and stuff, and then they'll, you know, they'll say,
Speaker 1: all right, we need to find another place for you.
Speaker 1: And it's not going to be the United States Army
Speaker 1: or United States Marine Corps, but but they're few and
Speaker 1: far between. So all right, we got a question here
Speaker 1: that BRIT's gonna read in the accent of Judge bev.
Speaker 3: Oh boy, all right, I gotta put on my glasses.
Speaker 3: Ben Jason, did you see my Auntie Bev costume?
Speaker 4: I did, not a number.
Speaker 3: I'll send you some photos or videos.
Speaker 1: The Judge Bev of Halloween. I'm sorry. Everybody else out.
Speaker 4: There, well, I mean I probably did, right because I
Speaker 4: was standing there. If you if you walked around in
Speaker 4: the line there, I was standing there, so I probably
Speaker 4: did see it.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: No, she wasn't at the past at the party.
Speaker 1: In Florida. Yeah, like where nobody knew it, which makes
Speaker 1: it even better.
Speaker 3: God, I wasn't person. There was one person who figured
Speaker 3: it out that because I was carrying.
Speaker 1: Her rubber duct and remind me of the John. After
Speaker 1: we're done reading this and answering Lisa's question, and thank
Speaker 1: you Lisa Love, I'm going to tell you the story
Speaker 1: about talking to John Como and coming out of the
Speaker 1: indoor pool in Colorado Springs and what someone came up
Speaker 1: and said to me when they heard me talking to
Speaker 1: John Como. Go ahead, please, ma'am.
Speaker 3: All right, So Lisa says, question, with her hand up,
Speaker 3: why are they focusing on a cop when John O'Keefe
Speaker 3: was beaten to death. That body has in injuries that
Speaker 3: do not at all fit a cop pedestrian's religion. Will
Speaker 3: they bring more medical excents? Lisa, I am right there
Speaker 3: with you.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Justin I was going to need to get
Speaker 1: like we need to send Nurse Kim a link to
Speaker 1: the show so that she can answer this question. But
Speaker 1: this is this is clearly a Nurse Kim question. Nurse Kim,
Speaker 1: if you want a link, just put a y in
Speaker 1: the chat so I can get you on because I
Speaker 1: don't want to send you a link and have her
Speaker 1: go I don't have my hair on and whatever.
Speaker 7: So uh, what I'll say is.
Speaker 3: That someone who has been hit by a car, who
Speaker 3: has actually been struck by a vehicle, you get a
Speaker 3: lot more than just injury. Use to your knoggin. Okay,
Speaker 3: you're you're gonna see And this is just common sense.
Speaker 3: I mean, Nurse him can absolutely go into more detail
Speaker 3: about this than any of the three of us can.
Speaker 3: But common sense says that if you see no injuries
Speaker 3: south of the skull, then it probably wasn't a car.
Speaker 3: You're gonna see pelvic injuries I have just from my
Speaker 3: wreck where you know it was a full sized DNC
Speaker 3: Sierra versus me eight fractures to my hip. Almost every
Speaker 3: rip on my right side was broken. I still have
Speaker 3: a bone fragment in my shoulder. I sprayed my back.
Speaker 3: So just saying it's something that I wish they would
Speaker 3: focus more on. Your hair is a.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what's you know like, because some people
Speaker 1: are like, oh, I don't have my hair's not done,
Speaker 1: or I don't have makeup on Kim. I mean, when
Speaker 1: you have a beautiful face like your I mean, look,
Speaker 1: I'm on YouTube with this face. That means anybody can
Speaker 1: be on YouTube. That should tell you. I mean I
Speaker 1: wish I looked like Jason, for God's sakes. So Kim,
Speaker 1: there is a I send her the link. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you could send it to her on her phone, but
Speaker 1: it's in your Twitter DM. Kim, if you'd like to
Speaker 1: join us and talk about injuries, and then we'll close
Speaker 1: the show because we're getting near the end here.
Speaker 4: We love my This is my favorite part. I'm a fan.
Speaker 1: So yeah, let me see if if she uh, let
Speaker 1: me see if she saw it.
Speaker 3: I just texted you them.
Speaker 1: Yeah you go. Yeah, Kim, log on to thirty four
Speaker 1: you and Canton so you can talk to Jennifer McCabe
Speaker 1: the class of nineteen ninety Folas's best looking girl.
Speaker 3: He's a ticket walk.
Speaker 1: Yeah what did uh? What did uh? What did what's
Speaker 1: what's his face? Say? The attractive the fit attractive soccer
Speaker 1: mom from Canon. Oh shoot, I gotta believe everything she says, now, man,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's thank you so much, clerk Jim, thank you,
Speaker 1: brah Man, you're a gentleman. Thank you for being a member.
Speaker 1: Thank you for being a member. Mate. Maybe that's where
Speaker 1: my schoolish accent is I needed to do when we
Speaker 1: were reading. Oh wait, that sounds a little more like Liverpool.
Speaker 1: I did it again. I did it again? All right?
Speaker 4: But but good nudes, the Beatles are just extending an
Speaker 4: invitation for you to join. So you're probably right.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what the fab four man Britt wrote?
Speaker 1: What did you write? A whole paper? Okay? Britt wrote,
Speaker 1: I don't know, twenty something pages on one song of
Speaker 1: the Beatles that was like I am what was it
Speaker 1: Yellow Submarine? Or I am I'm the wal I'm the walls. Yeah.
Speaker 3: The longer paper was actually on Disney's Fantasia, the nineteen
Speaker 3: forty version, not the two thousand, but it was on
Speaker 3: Taikowsky's use of musical imagery and how Disney kind of
Speaker 3: tried to recreate that. It was a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: It was a fun product. But yes, I did do
Speaker 3: a whole lot of analysis on I'm the Walls.
Speaker 1: Oh there she is from Reality Check. Thank you, love
Speaker 1: you too, and also want to say here, I love you,
Speaker 1: Suzanne Cleveland. You're an amazing warrior in person in this joint.
Speaker 1: So thank you, Susanne Cleveland. No, I'm from Liverpool and
Speaker 1: you don't sound like a Scott. Yeah, but I wasn't.
Speaker 1: I wasn't putting it all the way on. But you
Speaker 1: know what, britt Gal, I love you because Scouser scalse
Speaker 1: is my favorite British accent of all of them. I
Speaker 1: love the Scouse accent. So one love to you and
Speaker 1: you are welcome to come on here. Which oh let
Speaker 1: me get hey, hold up, man, let me, let me,
Speaker 1: let me get Let me get everything ready because we
Speaker 1: about to we about to do something. Okay, here we go,
Speaker 1: Thank you, romy Yeah, can I get I wrap, oh
Speaker 1: ma'am for my home girl nurse kill.
Speaker 4: You know, people don't play no games with me, amen.
Speaker 8: DJ I can't, I can't you get my head too big.
Speaker 8: There's been so much I wanted to say. First and foremost,
Speaker 8: I love all your faces. Hello lovies, thank you for
Speaker 8: inviting me up for a second with.
Speaker 7: This gas panel.
Speaker 8: We've got DJ We've got Jason Broyles, who is like,
Speaker 8: you know, all I'm gonna tell you is that your
Speaker 8: penmanship and the beautiful things and the way that you
Speaker 8: lay stuff out. Jason is ten out of ten would
Speaker 8: recommend Chef's Kiss, and I appreciate it.
Speaker 7: And and things.
Speaker 8: That I have no idea, like you go behind the
Speaker 8: scenes where I'm like, I am very out of the
Speaker 8: loop or unaware, and think for making me aware.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 7: I appreciate it. And Britt, are you kidding me? Are
Speaker 7: you kidding me?
Speaker 8: My TikTok sister from another mister obsessed incredible creator. And
Speaker 8: I cannot wait Britt till you have your YouTube. I
Speaker 8: am so proud of you, and you're gonna, You're gonna,
Speaker 8: You're just gonna be incredible and I know you will,
Speaker 8: and I'll be there just you.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Charlette. She's gonna kill it, man, She's gonna kill it.
Speaker 1: Ain't no doubt about it. And her first guest is
Speaker 1: amazing I'm already trying to piggyback off of her for
Speaker 1: her her first guest, who's really dope. Oh and you
Speaker 1: know what, so we do have something for Kim that
Speaker 1: we're gonna be able to get her to read, because
Speaker 1: I know that, and so we got to at least
Speaker 1: get like a paragraph. But I got two things to
Speaker 1: say before we get to that. I want to think.
Speaker 1: We just had ROMI, thank you so much. Love is
Speaker 1: Nurse Kim grabbing a dyet coke for THETI.
Speaker 6: My girl.
Speaker 7: I didn't even grab one.
Speaker 8: I just was like, oh, I've been summoned, it's time
Speaker 8: to go without one in the fridge. I will get
Speaker 8: one afterwards, but thank you my love for Romi with cheese.
Speaker 1: I was about to say that. I also want to
Speaker 1: make an announcement real quick. We're having our first Listener
Speaker 1: round table next week. So uh, I think everybody's a member,
Speaker 1: but even if you're not a member and you want
Speaker 1: to be on the round table, you're welcome to be
Speaker 1: on the round table. So next week we're having Sarah Shaqnhaa.
Speaker 1: We're having Sherry D. We're having Doctor Jones, We're having uh,
Speaker 1: Miss Jessica and b I'm trying to remember who else
Speaker 1: is gonna be on there, But this is the first
Speaker 1: listener round table we're gonna have, and then if you
Speaker 1: didn't get on this one, we're gonna do another one.
Speaker 1: But guess what, folks, you can get on calling all beings.
Speaker 1: You don't have to be a nurse Kim to get
Speaker 1: up in this joint. That's what I got to tell you.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so all right.
Speaker 4: That's a that's a great panel. I'll I have interacted,
Speaker 4: i think with every single person that's gonna be on
Speaker 4: your panel, and they're always, uh, they're they're so insightful
Speaker 4: in their questions in the comments. So I'm actually I'm
Speaker 4: excited for that show. I'm definitely gonna be in the
Speaker 4: audience on that one.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm very excited to I want people to
Speaker 1: have the opportunity to come on air and share their
Speaker 1: views because they they don't have their own their on YouTube,
Speaker 1: but they can still come on and that that's that's
Speaker 1: why we're we're doing. I'm like, what the hell can
Speaker 1: I do? I mean, I've never had members before I
Speaker 1: got members. What can I do? Well, Hell, let's give
Speaker 1: him around table. You know, they can come on air. So,
Speaker 1: but I know y'all want to hear Nurse Kim Reid
Speaker 1: because she has she just has the gift. She has
Speaker 1: the gift. What do you what do you want me
Speaker 1: to tell you? She has the gift? So, uh, Kim maybe.
Speaker 7: Have a gift to read. Geez, that's happening.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give it a whirld Ben.
Speaker 1: I'm going full screen. I'm gonna put my glasses. Tell
Speaker 1: me if you can see that? Is that? Okay?
Speaker 7: Okay, she can see it?
Speaker 8: Okay, all right, I'm reading this is from miss Olivia
Speaker 8: Lamba the Queen, and so all right, she's just going in.
Speaker 8: Good news for anyone who's been charged with witness intimidation
Speaker 8: in Norfolk County four days ago, for a former Dover
Speaker 8: select board member, John Jeffries faced arraignment on firearm charges
Speaker 8: and recounts of felony witness intimidation post coming soon on
Speaker 8: how you can get all your witness and intimidation charges
Speaker 8: dropped like he did if you issue an apology based
Speaker 8: on new precedent set by Norfolk County DA Michael Morrissey's office.
Speaker 3: Good look at that, Look at that man?
Speaker 8: Does he not make you medically uncomfortable, Babs, when you
Speaker 8: see yourself that is one you know, cough away from
Speaker 8: a cardiac event, and I mean that, love you.
Speaker 4: I will be using the praise medically uncomfortable going forward.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Whenever I feel bad about my looks, I just kind
Speaker 1: of like, have a look through Twitter. I look at
Speaker 1: his post, and you know what, I don't look at
Speaker 1: that actually now that I see it.
Speaker 7: Well, and I hate to say that.
Speaker 8: I hate to like, you know, it's just it's a
Speaker 8: medical and comfortable you know what I mean. I'm just
Speaker 8: thinking to myself, like I want to I want to
Speaker 8: help you, but there are also things that you know,
Speaker 8: sometimes I get a little bit, I get a little
Speaker 8: I get a little worked up, and I've been known
Speaker 8: to call him Penguin adjacent, and that is when that's rude,
Speaker 8: you know what I mean.
Speaker 7: But there's a great.
Speaker 3: Pale if it makes you feel any better, Kim. I
Speaker 3: think you saw the video I did in which I accidentally,
Speaker 3: on purpose, put up a picture of job at the
Speaker 3: Hut and was talking about Morrissey. I think that, like right,
Speaker 3: I meant it is more of a mob boss thing.
Speaker 3: But the more I did it, the more I realized
Speaker 3: how visually appropriate it was too, and so I just
Speaker 3: rolled with it.
Speaker 1: It really was close to home. It really did look
Speaker 1: like more And really.
Speaker 4: Nurse Kim, I do think that he should thank you,
Speaker 4: because as someone who has also made nurses medically comfortable myself,
Speaker 4: I love nurses and I definitely, I definitely respected every
Speaker 4: one of their opinions in the in the circum Now,
Speaker 4: mine was a little bit different. I wasn't just a
Speaker 4: you know, a fat old liar. I had cancer, so
Speaker 4: and on November twenty second was my five year mark
Speaker 4: from ringing the bell at my last chemo treatment. So yeah,
Speaker 4: but I I spent a great deal of time in
Speaker 4: the hospital while I while I was going through treatment
Speaker 4: because my blood counts would drop so so fast, so frequently.
Speaker 4: I kind of grew this respect for nurses that really
Speaker 4: I always liked nurse. I mean, who can honestly say
Speaker 4: I don't like nurses, right, I always liked nurses. But
Speaker 4: I've grown set a respect for your profession and you
Speaker 4: can just pruly see that it's a calling. So every
Speaker 4: time I have an opportunity to appear with a nurse,
Speaker 4: I have to take a second and just say, like,
Speaker 4: without nurses I would not be alive. There's it's not
Speaker 4: even a question. So I love your profession and I
Speaker 4: respect you so much for doing it. So thank you
Speaker 4: very much for that. And Morrissey should thank you too,
Speaker 4: because you know, if he hears your words, maybe it'll
Speaker 4: inspire him to actually get to the doctor and maybe
Speaker 4: listen to the advice of the nurses who we're going
Speaker 4: to spend the most time with him when he visits
Speaker 4: the doctor.
Speaker 8: So, Jason, that is, that is beautiful, and I'm so
Speaker 8: happy that you are coming up on your five years.
Speaker 7: That is.
Speaker 8: That is miraculous, and that is a testament to you.
Speaker 8: And I know that anyone any of my patients who
Speaker 8: have gone through their journeys with cancer and have come out,
Speaker 8: the ones that have been lucky enough to come out
Speaker 8: on the other end, you know it is a profound experience.
Speaker 8: And I respect you for having to endure everything that
Speaker 8: you did, and you know it's our pleasure to care
Speaker 8: for you. And I didn't clearly care for you, but
Speaker 8: I'm sure that your nurses.
Speaker 7: It's wonderful to hear the impact they made on you.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Yeah, And it's I agree. When I heard that,
Speaker 1: I was just kind of like saying a prayer directly
Speaker 1: to Jason, you know, because when I hear that, obviously
Speaker 1: at our age, you know, you start losing friends to cancer.
Speaker 1: So I'm really we're bloss that you're still here and
Speaker 1: so happy that you're still here with us and contributing.
Speaker 1: So that's awesome, Jason, really.
Speaker 4: Well, Frankly, the cancer is a lot of the reason
Speaker 4: that I do what I do, because you do get
Speaker 4: to a point where you start to think about your
Speaker 4: own legacy and you start to think about what kind
Speaker 4: of differences have I made in the world, and have
Speaker 4: I been able to make things better for anybody? And
Speaker 4: have I been able to stand up for what I believe?
Speaker 4: And I have basically over the last five years since then,
Speaker 4: I have restructured my life in such a way that
Speaker 4: I've made time to do more things in life that
Speaker 4: I want to accomplish before I go, because you really
Speaker 4: start to think about it. I've spent more time with friends,
Speaker 4: I've done all kinds of things to reshape my life.
Speaker 4: My definition of success has changed a little bit than
Speaker 4: it was prior to that, and so it's one of
Speaker 4: the reasons that I do. If you look at any
Speaker 4: given time I've probably gotten thirty dms since we started
Speaker 4: this tonight from people who are telling me their stories
Speaker 4: and my dms who are asking for help with things,
Speaker 4: who are doing that, And that's that's what I prioritize.
Speaker 4: Now it's a little bit different. I still need to work,
Speaker 4: I still need to make money. I still do those things,
Speaker 4: but a lot more Now I prioritize and how can
Speaker 4: I make an impact on the lives of my family,
Speaker 4: on the lives of my friends, and on the lives
Speaker 4: of people who I haven't even met yet.
Speaker 1: In some cases, I've gotten like five dms that have
Speaker 1: said you should really rethink doing a YouTube's. I don't
Speaker 1: know what they mean by that. I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's like encouragement or if it's I'm just kidding. I'm
Speaker 1: kidding about that. I know all the other nurses out
Speaker 1: there really bummed because like now everybody's favorite nurse is Kim,
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like no.
Speaker 8: No, no, no, I listen, Okay, I appreciate everybody. And
Speaker 8: there was like an actual love fest that my cheeks
Speaker 8: were red in this chat. So that is so awesome
Speaker 8: and kind for you for like for me to hear.
Speaker 8: But It's also uncomfortable because I'm just Kim, I'm just
Speaker 8: a mom, I'm just a nurse, and I am like,
Speaker 8: there are so many more deserving you know, nurses and
Speaker 8: everybody else, but I am. I'm so thankful to be
Speaker 8: here with all of you, and and thank you for
Speaker 8: answering my face times, and like, you know, just listening
Speaker 8: to what I think a lot of us in the
Speaker 8: community have seen, and they're just hasn't been a ton
Speaker 8: of representation of nurses I found, So I.
Speaker 7: Thought that, hey, what the what the hell?
Speaker 8: Go it, Kim, you know what I mean, Just give
Speaker 8: it a whirl and say what you know everybody is
Speaker 8: saying in all of the settings, whether you're at a hospital,
Speaker 8: whether you're in home care, all of the nurses, all
Speaker 8: of the doctors, and all of the nurse practitioners specifically
Speaker 8: with this case have said that Officer John O'Keefe's injuries
Speaker 8: are not only not consistent with a car accident or
Speaker 8: a low speed reverse motor vehicle accident. I just went
Speaker 8: over Renee Stonebridge, the neuropathologist in trial one, and I
Speaker 8: did a stream reacting to her testimony, and for me, guys,
Speaker 8: this was it.
Speaker 7: This was it.
Speaker 8: It's and of course it's so important to say about
Speaker 8: our abrasions, right like there's like, okay, so he's got
Speaker 8: these abrasions on the arm, he's got this two point
Speaker 8: five inch laceration to the right occiput of his brain.
Speaker 8: But at the end of the day, it was what
Speaker 8: was happening inside his skull that I said sealed the deal.
Speaker 8: And I pray that, you know, mister Yannetti and mister
Speaker 8: Jackson and Elias Little take the opportunity at next trial
Speaker 8: to cross her, because that is going to be what
Speaker 8: what I believe would push the jury over from like
Speaker 8: reasonable doubt or thinking something was happening.
Speaker 7: When you see the catastrophic.
Speaker 8: Damage to Officer John O'Keefe's brain to subarachnoid bleeds in
Speaker 8: his frontal lobes on bilateral both side temporal lobes, we
Speaker 8: have a herniated brainstem, which would not I can conclusively.
Speaker 7: Say legit, okay, like medically.
Speaker 8: Sorry, could not occur from a six foot two man
Speaker 8: right go from a stand position to falling and striking
Speaker 8: his head one time in the back of.
Speaker 7: His skull doesn't happen. That is not a plus B
Speaker 7: eqal C. My friends.
Speaker 8: That is multiple, multiple impacts, and you can't get around that.
Speaker 1: Kim. I have some questions about that. Now. I'm so
Speaker 1: glad you said that, because I haven't. I haven't. I
Speaker 1: don't know that I've heard you say that, and maybe
Speaker 1: it's just you know, my ignorance here. But so do
Speaker 1: you think that there were multiple strikes in the same
Speaker 1: spot or do you think there were he was hidden
Speaker 1: in that one spot where the wound was or different
Speaker 1: areas well.
Speaker 7: See that's interesting.
Speaker 3: So if you are standing, we have what's called a
Speaker 3: coup and a.
Speaker 8: Counter coup injury, which we could get from boxing and
Speaker 8: from other different ways. You can obtain this also from
Speaker 8: injury like impact injuries. But it would not occur from
Speaker 8: someone just striking their head one time to the back.
Speaker 8: It could occur if somebody was struck with a object
Speaker 8: in motion, because then the stationary item, the stationary object,
Speaker 8: which is Officer John O'Keeffe, then his head is going
Speaker 8: back and forth causing injury. But when an object hits
Speaker 8: a stationary you know, and when a stationary item hits
Speaker 8: the ground, I mean a moving item hits the ground,
Speaker 8: would not be able to he would only have bleeds
Speaker 8: in the back of his head. There would ever be
Speaker 8: frontal bleeds from him striking his head on the back
Speaker 8: of his head on the ground. Does not happen, cannot
Speaker 8: happen because your brain would never have inside the skull.
Speaker 8: It wouldn't reverberate, right because you're just going down there
Speaker 8: does It never made sense for there to be these
Speaker 8: frontal bleeds. And there was all so other damage to
Speaker 8: Officer John O'Keeffe's brain that were so many particual hemorrhages
Speaker 8: that she.
Speaker 7: Didn't even count them.
Speaker 8: She was unable to count them.
Speaker 7: Okay, WHOA when we this way?
Speaker 8: I just found out when I did the when I
Speaker 8: rewatched the testimony, because when I had been on your
Speaker 8: show previously, DJ, we had discussed you know, I was like,
Speaker 8: this doesn't make sense for ABC and D. But I'm
Speaker 8: telling you, neuropathologist Renee stone Bridge was for me what
Speaker 8: sent it over the edge. For medically speaking, bullet proof
Speaker 8: evidence that this was not what the Commonwealth has told
Speaker 8: us their theory is impossible.
Speaker 1: Okay, let me just shit you with a secondary and
Speaker 1: this is just trying to deep or maybe even support
Speaker 1: my hypothesis of what happened in the basement. And so
Speaker 1: if he would have been let's say he punched let's
Speaker 1: say let's I'm just gonna say Higgins, for example, in
Speaker 1: the face. Higgins punches him in the face, he falls back,
Speaker 1: and you know those two cradles that hold the squat bar.
Speaker 1: You know that there's those two cradles that you would
Speaker 1: re rerack your squat bar. If he were to fall
Speaker 1: and hit his head on that would it cause that injury?
Speaker 1: And that's why I ask you, is it multiple blows?
Speaker 1: You know? Was it him falling, hitting his head and
Speaker 1: then hitting the floor or was it do you think
Speaker 1: it was more like him standing and someone struck him
Speaker 1: from behind with an object, with a metal object or
Speaker 1: some sort of heavy blunt object.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so, dj I, I don't know what happened, right, Like,
Speaker 8: I don't know, But what would make more sense to
Speaker 8: me would be the second object option, right, was that
Speaker 8: something something happened while he was in a position that
Speaker 8: was not.
Speaker 7: On the ground, is what I will say. Okay, And.
Speaker 8: How I've always tried to approach the case is that again,
Speaker 8: I'm not Mass day police, We're not you know what
Speaker 8: I mean? And I didn't investigate that was chippy practic's job.
Speaker 8: And unfortunately, let's do it one time because she's here
Speaker 8: a bunch of practa. Okay, I never I did not investigate,
Speaker 8: but I feel so so confident that I can rule
Speaker 8: out that Karen Read's almost seven thousand pound lexus did
Speaker 8: not cause the injuries that he succumbed to and that
Speaker 8: ended Officer John O'Keeffe's life that tragic early morning on
Speaker 8: January twenty ninth, twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1: And so, Ken, do you I'm sorry, go ahead, go ahead,
Speaker 1: I'll come back good.
Speaker 3: Do you feel that a pond cross Renee stone Bridge
Speaker 3: could possibly say? No, this guy in order to obtain
Speaker 3: these injuries essentially would have had to have taken multiple
Speaker 3: close to the head, rather being.
Speaker 8: That's so smart, that's so so smart, Right that you
Speaker 8: asked that, because no questions were asked of her, right,
Speaker 8: And what lady asked was could this have occurred from
Speaker 8: a fall? And she said yes, it could have, And
Speaker 8: I was out of my tits because of course it
Speaker 8: could have, but she might He must have been from
Speaker 8: a three story build. He could have fallen when something
Speaker 8: happened like that. But let's put it, let's let's put
Speaker 8: this into context, babes, because him from six feet two
Speaker 8: down to the down to frozen ground didn't do it?
Speaker 7: Okay, And uh, that is where.
Speaker 8: Those questions that come in from lies a little whoever,
Speaker 8: from David Yarnetti, whoever decides to do the pross. I
Speaker 8: beg I beg of them to ask those specifics, right,
Speaker 8: because if somebody said, could this have occurred from from
Speaker 8: a standing to the ground, she would have said, is
Speaker 8: it possible? I guess, but is it probable?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: And here is where we.
Speaker 8: Can get into the thick of it, and then we
Speaker 8: can ask is it possible, is it possible or probable
Speaker 8: that he was that he was struck by an object
Speaker 8: as such as a weight or a bat or whatever.
Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying, whatever we want to go
Speaker 8: through from the process, from the defense, would make a
Speaker 8: huge difference when you're when you're kind of cross examining
Speaker 8: someone who is a Druple board certified physician like Renee
Speaker 8: Stonebridge is with her sleeves.
Speaker 7: Okay, I'll stop and tell me more. I was obsessed. Yeah,
Speaker 7: oh my god.
Speaker 8: But like those are the things that I think there
Speaker 8: becomes maybe a little bit of a well, she didn't
Speaker 8: say anything that was gonna hurt Karen at all. But
Speaker 8: we could have gotten in my humble medical opinion, it
Speaker 8: really could have been so incredibly beneficial for the defense
Speaker 8: to get in and ask her where she has seen
Speaker 8: similar injuries? Right, where have you ever? Because I know
Speaker 8: she has where in what cases have you seen something
Speaker 8: like this? It's never gonna be from what the Commonwealth
Speaker 8: is trying to sell us as a bill of goods
Speaker 8: in commonwealth first read.
Speaker 3: Well, Chica, you now can send David Yanetti a little
Speaker 3: DM Well.
Speaker 1: First of all, she has his number. I have his number.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, if it's a matter of nurse
Speaker 1: Kim getting a UNITTI that thing can be that very
Speaker 1: hard to have to make that happen. She's you've spoken
Speaker 1: with him. I've spoken with him. I got his damn number.
Speaker 1: I will call the guy if that's if that's what
Speaker 1: it takes.
Speaker 4: So he's a busy man, but he's a little busy.
Speaker 4: He's probably a little busy.
Speaker 1: I've only called him once, but I mean or spoke.
Speaker 1: He called me once over something that's unrelated to this
Speaker 1: but related to the case, and I didn't obviously I
Speaker 1: would not bug the guy, but for what Kim has.
Speaker 1: I would bug him. I would bug him for that,
Speaker 1: because that's not bugging, that's like her trying to help
Speaker 1: them out, because there's a million different angles they're thinking of,
Speaker 1: and none of them is a medical professional, but Kim is.
Speaker 4: So I have a feeling thirty people are gonna d
Speaker 4: M him a clip from this episode to her talking
Speaker 4: about that, because this is what happens to me. Every
Speaker 4: time I talk about anything anywhere, I'll get forty dms
Speaker 4: and people showed me clips of someone else saying that
Speaker 4: or someone you know, it happens.
Speaker 1: I do, and and kim My theory was basically like
Speaker 1: I I was trying to uh, I will try to
Speaker 1: imagine what happened in situations that we don't know, which
Speaker 1: is why I ask you those questions. So I had
Speaker 1: to figure I had to solve for X like an
Speaker 1: algebraic formula. So I said, if they didn't call, if
Speaker 1: he just if there's just a fight and he falls
Speaker 1: and hits his head, well Brian Albert would call the ambulance.
Speaker 1: He would say, well, there's a fight and he fell
Speaker 1: and he got hurt. I got to call and get
Speaker 1: him an ambulance. I mean that just like if they
Speaker 1: were at a hunting camp, if they were at a
Speaker 1: fishing camp, if they were hiking, if anything like that,
Speaker 1: and and O'Keefe got hurt another officer he would have called,
Speaker 1: you know, said I gotta get medical treatment. So the
Speaker 1: only reason they wouldn't have is if someone would have
Speaker 1: committed some sort of felony assault that he couldn't explain away,
Speaker 1: because the second call he would have had to make
Speaker 1: after calling nine to one one would be to call
Speaker 1: the duty desk at BPD and tell him that Officer
Speaker 1: O'Keefe is going to the hospital. That's a recorded call,
Speaker 1: and so he would have had to come up with
Speaker 1: the story right there. So somebody must have done something
Speaker 1: that Albert didn't think he could explain whatever that was.
Speaker 1: And that's why I think it wasn't just a simple
Speaker 1: fall and hit his head or they said, well, shoot,
Speaker 1: these two idiots just fought. These two drunks fought and
Speaker 1: he hit his head, Well, then he would have got
Speaker 1: him help. He didn't get him help because someone did
Speaker 1: something that he would have thought was a felony that
Speaker 1: he couldn't explain. And if O'Keefe woke up, O'Keefe would
Speaker 1: tell a different story than what he told, so he
Speaker 1: couldn't get him help well.
Speaker 8: And also just to remind you that Karen Reid provided
Speaker 8: mouth to mouth okay, and was providing first aid and
Speaker 8: resuscitative efforts upon finding Officer John o'keef morning. And I
Speaker 8: just just a reminder that maybe somebody wouldn't want to
Speaker 8: do that or help him, you know, make it to
Speaker 8: Good Samaritan if there was an opportunity for him to
Speaker 8: wake up, and she was the one who had tried
Speaker 8: to take him out of the night before, just just.
Speaker 1: Thought yes, yeah, in other words, don't save his life,
Speaker 1: so he can't say, oh, she backed up to me, yes,
Speaker 1: I know, there's nothing that makes sense that they say.
Speaker 1: By the way, hello to jen Root and hello to Beatrice.
Speaker 4: Love them. And actually conversely, there was one person who
Speaker 4: was in the car on a nine to one one
Speaker 4: call telling them to get off of him and to
Speaker 4: stop performing life saving measures, and that person was seen McCabe.
Speaker 4: So if you apply the same if you apply that
Speaker 4: same logic in reverse, I'm just saying I'd never accused
Speaker 4: any of them of anything specifically, but if you applied
Speaker 4: that same logic in reverse, you could come to a conclusion.
Speaker 1: There's only one person here qualified to say the name
Speaker 1: of JM Asnathan McKay.
Speaker 4: It's always best when that person picks up the que
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 1: There is nobody, there is nobody qualified to say that name.
Speaker 4: Uh, you know, I just want to add in, you know,
Speaker 4: with Nurse Kim's point when she's talking about renicege testimony,
Speaker 4: I have not yet met a professional somebody in the
Speaker 4: medical field, a nurse, a police officer, people in these
Speaker 4: I haven't yet met a person who I've had a
Speaker 4: private conversation with about this case, who is in any
Speaker 4: of those fields, who hasn't looked at this and said
Speaker 4: have the same reservations that we have, or the same things.
Speaker 4: I have talked to police officers who will talk to
Speaker 4: me about what I do. And then I've had police
Speaker 4: officers turn off their body cameras and then say to me,
Speaker 4: who do you think did it?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 4: And I'll say, well, I don't like to say who
Speaker 4: did it. I like to follow the evidence. The evidence
Speaker 4: tells me that Karen Reid didn't do it, and I
Speaker 4: think there needs to be more investigation. And I've had
Speaker 4: cops look right at me and say, well, I think
Speaker 4: Brian Albert did it, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 4: it's not always him, but I have those conversations. I
Speaker 4: talked to a state trooper in another state, a non
Speaker 4: New England state, who is in charge of training canines
Speaker 4: and their handlers for the state that he's in. He's
Speaker 4: the top knine handler trainer and as a canine handler himself.
Speaker 4: And similar to an expert that went on Melanie Little's show,
Speaker 4: and I blind showed him the picture of John's injuries
Speaker 4: on his arm. I just showed him the picture. I
Speaker 4: didn't tell him what it was about what the case was,
Speaker 4: and he looked at me and he said, who got
Speaker 4: in a fight with the German shepherd? Those were his
Speaker 4: literal words that first came out of his mouth. This
Speaker 4: person has seen more German shepherd bites than any emergency
Speaker 4: room doctor because he literally trains dogs to bite people's
Speaker 4: arms like it's not a So I look at these things,
Speaker 4: and we're also, you know, we're supposed to suspend disbelief
Speaker 4: in all of these situations. You have the phone call
Speaker 4: with Jen McCabe saying that, you have every reasonable professional
Speaker 4: saying this. You have the officer from Dyton saying there
Speaker 4: was just a crack. There's all of these things that
Speaker 4: they start out to be these onesies Tuesdays, but they
Speaker 4: add up to a mountain of exculpatory evidence that Karen
Speaker 4: Reid didn't do this. And and the last one that
Speaker 4: I'll add into that is that nine to one to
Speaker 4: one call when she there's a guy laying in the snow.
Speaker 4: I'm paraphrasing rights. There is no one that can tell me,
Speaker 4: even though I've heard the trolls say it one hundred times,
Speaker 4: the anti say this, there is no one that can
Speaker 4: tell me that the response would not be faster if
Speaker 4: someone said there's a police officer laying in the snow
Speaker 4: and he's not moving, It's not even close. It is
Speaker 4: literally you're going to get ten times of response, and
Speaker 4: they're going to drive a hell of a lot faster
Speaker 4: to get there, even in a blizzard.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Appreciation. And then on top of that, if you
Speaker 3: remember in Proctor's texts that the FEDS were kind enough
Speaker 3: to hand over to the defense, one of the initial
Speaker 3: responses from one of Proctor's work buddies was, Man, the
Speaker 3: homeowner is going to take some heat for this. Isn't
Speaker 3: just hearing about the broad strokes of the case. But
Speaker 3: what he commented was, Man, the homeowner is going to
Speaker 3: be in a little bit of trouble here.
Speaker 1: So he's a Boston I'm sorry, he's a Boston police
Speaker 1: officer too. He ain't gonna catch any ship for this.
Speaker 1: That was That's a quote from from Michael Proctor.
Speaker 4: And speaking of gen Root being in the speaking of
Speaker 4: gen Root being in the chat, especially in Norfolk County
Speaker 4: because that that's the that's the thing that we see.
Speaker 4: The eyes that bind in Norfolk County are if you
Speaker 4: are a law enforcement officer facing some sort of legal liability,
Speaker 4: you want to live in Norfolk County like that is.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you this should be their new tourism campaign
Speaker 4: for Norfolk County should be if you are a criminal
Speaker 4: police officer, moved to Norfolk County because the state police
Speaker 4: detective you and attached to the District Attorney's office will
Speaker 4: make sure that you will never face any liability for
Speaker 4: your illegal actions. Yes, it's horrendous, worse than worse than
Speaker 4: anywhere I've seen.
Speaker 1: Also, the material and so we're gonna have on this
Speaker 1: is kind of a preview, but I've been speaking with
Speaker 1: Dream feed Media. Grace is her name. She's going to
Speaker 1: be on so next week Listener round Table, then the
Speaker 1: Sexiest Man in Canton John Como, the week after that
Speaker 1: Ches Hair and All, and then the week after that
Speaker 1: is going to be Grace from dream feed Media. Who
Speaker 1: did she did that whole replay of the disassembly of
Speaker 1: the tail light, all that work. What's the gentleman's name?
Speaker 1: I can never remember? Is it David something? They mac
Speaker 1: McIntire did the deconstruction of the taillight. But you did
Speaker 1: a good job, David, you really did so was that
Speaker 1: what was that Irish? Good? Is that Irish? Okay? Thank you?
Speaker 1: So anyway, Uh yeah, McIntyre did a great job. And
Speaker 1: Grace goes over it in a way, Kim, if you've
Speaker 1: not seen dream feed Media's tail Whisper, she does it
Speaker 1: in such a way, a digestible way that you can
Speaker 1: metabolize not only the tail light and how it's put
Speaker 1: together and the diffusers and where you would see light
Speaker 1: versus where you wouldn't, and what what McIntyre things they
Speaker 1: used to break it, And then she does the key
Speaker 1: cycles and you can even metabolize that, and we all
Speaker 1: like go into like I'm ready to go to sleep.
Speaker 1: I just had Thanksgiving turkey. Listening to about these cycles,
Speaker 1: it was kind of like Olivia is able to explain
Speaker 1: hash values in a way that nobody on the stand
Speaker 1: was able to explain hash values. Thank God to Olivia,
Speaker 1: we now understand it. So I we're gonna have on
Speaker 1: Grace and the co creator of Calling All Beings, whom
Speaker 1: none of you have ever seen. His name is Nathan.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you and forgive me because I mean,
Speaker 1: he's an amazing intellect. He really is. He is one
Speaker 1: hundred times smarter than I am, and better spoken than
Speaker 1: I am, and his voice is actually soothing where his
Speaker 1: mind's irritating.
Speaker 4: What about the accents.
Speaker 1: Though, Oh he doesn't do accents. No, there you go.
Speaker 4: Everyone has roles.
Speaker 1: He's just he's a great guy. Nathan is one of
Speaker 1: the best people I've ever met in my life, and
Speaker 1: I met him through doing this show. We started the
Speaker 1: show together three and a half years ago. But he
Speaker 1: is going to be on to interview Grace with me,
Speaker 1: uh and and have her go over her stuff. So
Speaker 1: I want to close out the show with someone. Someone
Speaker 1: has a question for Nurse Kim about stitches, so let
Speaker 1: me see if I've got that start. Basically, they want
Speaker 1: to know about dissolvable stitches. Oh here it is. Okay,
Speaker 1: this one's for you, Kim, and then this will be
Speaker 1: our last question.
Speaker 8: Oh sorry, sorry, I've been called away to be nurse
Speaker 8: to my son's head trauma. He's okay, nurse Kim. How
Speaker 8: long should it take for the dissolvable stitches to dissolve, Levey?
Speaker 8: It should be about ten days? How old is he?
Speaker 8: If he's under eight, like, it's usually about seven to
Speaker 8: ten days and they'll dissolve. But are they're inside right?
Speaker 8: Because the outside ones typically we.
Speaker 7: Still have to leave them, right.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you leave them, so just leave them, keep watching it.
Speaker 8: It all should look pretty good though, okay, yeah, so.
Speaker 1: Don't take me knows pliers and like, okay, I.
Speaker 4: Want to I want to know if she gave him
Speaker 4: the herself, because based on her initial comment, okay, she
Speaker 4: just she just didn't have the I have the stitches.
Speaker 4: I just don't know what to do with these things.
Speaker 8: To me, Well, I'll let you guys go, but thank
Speaker 8: you so much for having me, and I appreciate.
Speaker 7: You so much.
Speaker 1: Hang with us for two seconds because we are closing
Speaker 1: the show. Right now, we are closing the show. I
Speaker 1: want to thank everybody in this First of all, I
Speaker 1: want to thank everybody in the chat, all the mods,
Speaker 1: everything you guys did tonight to keep this going a
Speaker 1: lot of super duper generous, amazing people that we always
Speaker 1: see here bringing a lot of positivity and love to
Speaker 1: my guests, to my guest co host, and to my
Speaker 1: auxiliary guest co host who jumped up in here, up
Speaker 1: in the joint and just you know, as she does,
Speaker 1: she just blows things up. I I've said it on
Speaker 1: many occasions, the two most amazing content creators in our
Speaker 1: space are Melanie and Nurse Kim irrespect, no gender, no
Speaker 1: nothing in this period. Yeah, she's all right, all right.
Speaker 7: My head's exploding. Drop out, I'm blowing things up.
Speaker 1: It's called my okay, don't we don't want we don't
Speaker 1: want her head to blow up. Even Beatrice texts me
Speaker 1: and goes, oh my god, Kim's on, I'm so joie.
Speaker 1: I don't know something like that. She's like mine was blown.
Speaker 1: So thank you, Jason, I really appreciate you, brother, Thank you.
Speaker 4: Thanks.
Speaker 1: Uh do you want to pump up stuff you have
Speaker 1: coming up?
Speaker 4: I really have a focus now. I am also starting
Speaker 4: YouTube channel, so I'll be doing that in the next
Speaker 4: couple of weeks. And I have to focus on getting
Speaker 4: some content created ahead of time on some other cases
Speaker 4: that I want to cover as well, and we'll obviously
Speaker 4: be talking about this case. And uh I did, I
Speaker 4: did promise that I'm going to write a story this week,
Speaker 4: So I am going to write a story on on
Speaker 4: some of the external factors that are being fed into
Speaker 4: this case to influence things negatively, So I'll be talking
Speaker 4: about that and other than that. I don't think I
Speaker 4: have anything scheduled right now, but I always pop up
Speaker 4: from time to time. You can find me on USS
Speaker 4: the Insiders. Uh, it's spur the moment almost all the time.
Speaker 4: So happy to do what it is going to be
Speaker 4: on your case media, like the little logo that I
Speaker 4: have up in the corner there, and we will I
Speaker 4: have I when I decided that I'm going to do this,
Speaker 4: I decided all the way, so I have registered in LLC,
Speaker 4: I am applying for press credentials almost everywhere that I can,
Speaker 4: and we're going to make a run of it, so
Speaker 4: we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: Are you ever doing a story on bald headed content creators.
Speaker 1: I'm asking I am not for me, I'm just asking
Speaker 1: for a friend.
Speaker 4: I think we can do a whole panel and it
Speaker 4: would be hilarious. We need to figure out we need
Speaker 4: two more We need two more bald guys and make
Speaker 4: this a thing, all right?
Speaker 8: Well, as DJ says, I might take my hair off
Speaker 8: at night, so you know.
Speaker 1: I got it was the make I'm never gonna live
Speaker 1: that one down. She's not gonna let me go. She's
Speaker 1: just gonna break I didn't.
Speaker 4: You're right, Kim, I didn't mean to make a gender.
Speaker 4: You're definitely If you're gonna come on and be a
Speaker 4: bald content creator, we're with you, all.
Speaker 1: Right, Kim. Please tell us what you got coming up
Speaker 1: on Nurse Kim's both you. You have YouTube and TikTok,
Speaker 1: So what's going on?
Speaker 3: What do I have coming up?
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 8: I am a little bit of a spur of the moment,
Speaker 8: kind of like Jason, but we've been cranking it out.
Speaker 8: I just wanted to say, also, if anybody was at
Speaker 8: the Pink Friday stream, thank you guys so much, because
Speaker 8: Kelly Reid told us that it was twenty six thousand
Speaker 8: dollars that ended up being the total for Pink Friday
Speaker 8: raised for Karen's defense fund.
Speaker 7: And you guys are everything.
Speaker 8: You know, helping Karen this time around is so impactful
Speaker 8: and so part of me and so important. And that
Speaker 8: Nathan and Kelly Reid came on for a minute. They
Speaker 8: just bopped in and just said thank you so much to.
Speaker 7: All of you.
Speaker 3: You are what keeps.
Speaker 7: This movement going.
Speaker 8: You are the message and the holders of information that
Speaker 8: are seeking justice for Officer John O'Keefe. And I appreciate
Speaker 8: every single one of you, and I know that Karen
Speaker 8: and her family.
Speaker 7: Do as well.
Speaker 1: Very inspiring. You're you're you're so inspired obviously to the
Speaker 1: family who recently got to meet you into the community.
Speaker 1: Everybody has got like so much love for you. And
Speaker 1: we did the same. We got our podcast revenue came.
Speaker 4: There you go again.
Speaker 1: Our podcast revenue came and we did seventy five for
Speaker 1: Can't Excuse Me to Care and twenty five to Turtle Boy.
Speaker 1: And then when our YouTube revenue comes in, we're gonna
Speaker 1: we're gonna do something similar. We're when a percentage it out,
Speaker 1: We're also going to kick some to the mods as well. Britt,
Speaker 1: what do you so you have a YouTube coming up
Speaker 1: very shortly with a secret guest.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean just not announced yet, but yes, should
Speaker 3: everything go according to plan, in a couple of weeks,
Speaker 3: the Britt Happens channel will be channeling and I am
Speaker 3: going to as I go kind of let listeners tell
Speaker 3: me what they want me to cover. So, if you
Speaker 3: guys have any suggestions, any requests, any recommendations, if you'd
Speaker 3: like to be on, I just opened up an email
Speaker 3: address so you can shoot me emails at Britt Happens
Speaker 3: channel at gmail dot com.
Speaker 1: And she is also currently on TikTok. Just put a
Speaker 1: Britt Happens in the search bar and you will find her.
Speaker 1: You will find Nurse Kim, you'll find Boozy Beauty. And
Speaker 1: those are the only ones I know because they're the
Speaker 1: only ones I'm following. So on behalf of me too, sir.
Speaker 4: How it happens. Yes, no, I'm saying that those are no, no, no,
Speaker 4: I'm not on TikTok. I'm saying, as a boomer, the
Speaker 4: only people that I follow on TikTok are you guys
Speaker 4: like this case and and the content creators here. Boozy
Speaker 4: Beauty of nurse Kim. Those are the only people I
Speaker 4: follow on TikTok because I was like, yeah, TikTok, you know,
Speaker 4: but now I'm I'm a believer, so I'm I'm a
Speaker 4: I'm a follower. My name my name on TikTok is
Speaker 4: user nine eight seven three six.
Speaker 1: Like that.
Speaker 4: If you see comments coming from me, that's that'll it's
Speaker 4: for me.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. This has been such a fun show. Uh,
Speaker 1: you guys were so delightful, and then you know, Jason,
Speaker 1: we had great dialogue. It was so much fun to
Speaker 1: do the reading. Then having Kim to jump up in
Speaker 1: here and you know, just taking her away from her
Speaker 1: family to come up here and do this so unplanned.
Speaker 1: We really do appreciate it. So on behalf of these
Speaker 1: three angels right here. This is DJ saying peace out,
Speaker 1: one love, We'll see you down the road. And we
Speaker 1: always are wondering what's up around the back.