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<v Speaker 1>Box thirty one's chief meteorologist, Day Fraser, Ainy Day Fraser,

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<v Speaker 1>what about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Dug and gloomy skies today? What's happening?

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<v Speaker 3>Weeah that nice refreshing change, thanks for cool front last night.

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<v Speaker 3>So instead of baking at ninety five like we did yesterday,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll only pop out in the in the mid eighties today.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's that's the benefit of the dark and gloomy

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<v Speaker 3>skies out there. But the price that comes with it

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<v Speaker 3>is a chance for showers and thunderstorms, some of which

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<v Speaker 3>will have lightning and wind and hail typical threats, and

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<v Speaker 3>so we'll watch for that this afternoon. But the humidity

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<v Speaker 3>level is higher today, I'm sure everybody by Colorado standards

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<v Speaker 3>just about that, and that can lead to heavy rain

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<v Speaker 3>but hopefully beneficial range. So there's a there's a trade

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<v Speaker 3>out right, Maybe keep the hail on the small side.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't get any damage, but we can ring out

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<v Speaker 3>some rain this with this higher humidity, and that's what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm hoping for.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let me give out the text number if people

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<v Speaker 1>have weather questions. Now's the time, five sixty six nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh is who you text? Yesterday? I was driving home

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<v Speaker 1>and I was all excited because I was driving through

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<v Speaker 1>really like health rain, right, good rain, and then drove

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<v Speaker 1>into my neighborhood and not a drop and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>dang it, now I've got to water on my plants.

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<v Speaker 2>So how scattered are these showers?

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<v Speaker 1>When are we I mean, when are we going to

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<v Speaker 1>see like a solid line where I know I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to get rain?

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<v Speaker 2>When am I going to get that?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, when we're dealing with storms of convective nature,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it just depends where the first ones go up.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we always talk about outflow boundaries. When the

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<v Speaker 3>thunderstorms are kind of dying, they can throw a gush

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<v Speaker 3>of wind across the ground and that can be a

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<v Speaker 3>focal point for additional development. Those things, even the highest

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<v Speaker 3>resolution models don't do a good job picking up on,

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<v Speaker 3>so you kind of have to watch the radar real time.

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<v Speaker 3>I will tell you if you're going to get your

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<v Speaker 3>rain up and down the front range. As I'm looking

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<v Speaker 3>at our high resolution models, it's going to start. The

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<v Speaker 3>clouds are going to delay the start because they're delayed

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<v Speaker 3>the heating. So obviously heating is a component to get

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<v Speaker 3>the storms going. I'm thinking we're going to be somewhere

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<v Speaker 3>in the two to three o'clock start. I think the

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<v Speaker 3>best window goes till about five o'clock, and by five

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<v Speaker 3>to six they're starting to push past the airport and

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<v Speaker 3>go onto the eastern planes. So if you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>get the rain, you're going to have to see it

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<v Speaker 3>by five to six. If you haven't seen it by

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<v Speaker 3>five to six, your only hope would be that an

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<v Speaker 3>outflow boundary comes back in your direction, But chances for

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<v Speaker 3>that in this type of environment are going to be

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<v Speaker 3>on the very low side. So that's your window coverage

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<v Speaker 3>is about sixty percent, Mandy. So I know a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people think that that means though there's a pretty

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<v Speaker 3>good chance you know that you'll get rain, it's decent.

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<v Speaker 3>It means a lot more of us have a better

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<v Speaker 3>chance of seeing it, but it's not one hundred percent, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So we got a couple of questions, and funny,

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<v Speaker 1>I have three different questions from three different textures, and

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<v Speaker 1>they are all about the use of the word land spout.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me read them all to you in one one

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<v Speaker 1>little fellow swoop here, Hi, Mandy, can.

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<v Speaker 2>You ask Dave what a land spout is? Mandy?

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<v Speaker 1>For Dave, difference between a land spout and a dust devil.

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<v Speaker 1>Mandy Weather Wednesday question. Please ask Dave when and why

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<v Speaker 1>did they start calling tornadoes land spalves. So let's clear

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<v Speaker 1>the air on landsfalts, shall we yep?

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<v Speaker 3>So let me start with the lower end, the dust devil.

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<v Speaker 3>The dust devil is exactly that. As the ground heats,

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<v Speaker 3>the air rises, and if it heats a finite area,

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<v Speaker 3>you can get the air to rise and kind of

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<v Speaker 3>swirl a little bit. Generally, a dust devil doesn't do much,

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<v Speaker 3>and it doesn't connect to the upper atmosphere, and it

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<v Speaker 3>only lasts as long as it's over that heated source

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<v Speaker 3>and then it dies away. So if a dust level

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<v Speaker 3>comes up and it moves over an area that's cooler,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just going to die out. The next one would

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<v Speaker 3>be the land spaluve and land spout tornadoes, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>the frase you'll hear us use are defined as tornadoes.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just that they form in a different way. So

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<v Speaker 3>a tornado is generally associated with a large thunderstorm or

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<v Speaker 3>a cumulomimous cloud. The whole storm is rotating and the

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<v Speaker 3>tornado drops from the center of the storm down to

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<v Speaker 3>the ground. And that rotating column of air can be violent,

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<v Speaker 3>and as we know, we have categories for them or

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<v Speaker 3>a zero one two through the EF scale that we

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<v Speaker 3>talked about all the time. And the stronger the wind,

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<v Speaker 3>the more damage you're going to have. The storms can

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<v Speaker 3>be very large. We don't tend to see them. Most

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<v Speaker 3>of Colorado deals with E F zero EF one. They

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<v Speaker 3>don't last all that long. A land spout is in essence,

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<v Speaker 3>a dust devil that starts on the ground because of

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<v Speaker 3>heating or swirling wind, and as a thunderstorm is growing,

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<v Speaker 3>just starting to develop, it acts like a suction or

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<v Speaker 3>a vacuum, and it stucks that rotation up and connects

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<v Speaker 3>it with the cloud and gives it a little more

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<v Speaker 3>spin up and so it grows from a different direction. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>the lamp spout that did the damage in Franktown yesterday,

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<v Speaker 3>most lamp spouts do not do damage. They last, they

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<v Speaker 3>don't last very long, and their speeds are very very low.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean, you don't want to be in one.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean feeling even stung by bees. The one that

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<v Speaker 3>hit frank Down came up and hit the corner of

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<v Speaker 3>a building. It looks like it took a roof off

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<v Speaker 3>of a commercial property that one only lasted ninety seconds,

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<v Speaker 3>But ninety seconds enough. Here's the problem when it comes

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<v Speaker 3>to land spouts. The radar the start at the ground.

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<v Speaker 3>The radar cannot point directly to the ground radar right,

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<v Speaker 3>so the radar is pointing over the horizon. So the

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<v Speaker 3>farther out you get from the radar, the beam is

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<v Speaker 3>getting higher and higher and higher off the ground because

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<v Speaker 3>of the curvature of the earth. So because the radar

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<v Speaker 3>is not pointed at the ground, it's pointed more in

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<v Speaker 3>the middle aspect of the storms where we can see

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<v Speaker 3>the rotation. You don't get the notification of anything happening

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<v Speaker 3>until it grows tall enough that it might be able

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<v Speaker 3>to be seen by radar. So, in essence, we can

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<v Speaker 3>be blind in those respects when it comes to the technology.

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<v Speaker 3>Once it connects, it can grow tall, and generally the

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<v Speaker 3>base of the thunderstorm is way up high, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>you'll be able to see it growing up and it

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<v Speaker 3>does visually look like a tornado, it's just a different formation.

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<v Speaker 1>So but does it ever become a tornado or is

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<v Speaker 1>it all a land spout and it's always a tornado

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<v Speaker 1>based on how they start.

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<v Speaker 3>Now it's because of the way it started. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>going to the storm that's generating. It is not the

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<v Speaker 3>typical formation of a classic rotating funderstorm. It's basically the

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<v Speaker 3>thunderstorm is growing and the air going into the thunderstorm

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<v Speaker 3>is kind of drawing up that land spout, if you will.

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<v Speaker 3>The cloud itself is not generating the rotation in the spent.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so it sounds to me as a Floridian. A

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<v Speaker 1>land spout is the same as a water spout on

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<v Speaker 1>the water.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, it can be. But sometimes water stoups can

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<v Speaker 3>be tornadoes that form over water, and they define them

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<v Speaker 3>as water stops because they're over water.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I've actually been in the Gulf.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've been in the Gulf of Mexico on a

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<v Speaker 1>small boat when I watched a land spout form and

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<v Speaker 1>it was one of the coolest things I've ever seen

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<v Speaker 1>in my life and also super terrifying. So I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy the as we were running away from it as

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<v Speaker 1>fast as we could, but it was really fascinating to

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<v Speaker 1>see it happen in real time. It was really super cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's one for you, Dave. Ask Dave if a dust

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<v Speaker 1>devil is related to the Tasmanian Devil.

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<v Speaker 3>Or the vice versa. Yes, the Tasmanian Devil is related

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<v Speaker 3>to the dust level. Yeah, because dust devils. We all

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<v Speaker 3>know the cartoon, right, Yes, swirled the dust devil in

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<v Speaker 3>the cartoon, you know, bugs Bunny and the Tasmanian Devil,

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<v Speaker 3>a swirling pile of dust creating chaos. And so yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's interchangeable. Which came first, the chicken of

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<v Speaker 3>the egg. I can't tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a serious question.

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<v Speaker 3>They need.

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<v Speaker 1>The smoke here on the western slope is awful. Please

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<v Speaker 1>ask Dave if there's any relief coming dust in the

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<v Speaker 1>next week. We've got some big fire fires burning on

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<v Speaker 1>the western slope the border of Utah. Is there any

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<v Speaker 1>rain coming to give any relief from that?

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<v Speaker 3>You know? Unfortunately, the long range outlook for the next

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<v Speaker 3>six to ten days does keep the western slope dry.

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<v Speaker 3>They struggle at this time of the year. We're benefiting

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<v Speaker 3>from a cold front that came in from the east

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<v Speaker 3>last night. They did not make it up and over

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<v Speaker 3>the mountains to the west. So while there will be

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<v Speaker 3>spotty storms over the west, for instance, the San Juans tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 3>the San Juan Mountains in the southwest. We'll get some

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<v Speaker 3>small storms out there. I don't see a huge relief coming.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't see a widespread rain event enough to you know,

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<v Speaker 3>put the fires out. The hope with the smoke might

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<v Speaker 3>be that if we can get a little wind to

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<v Speaker 3>stir it and get it up in the way. They

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<v Speaker 3>do have air quality alerts right now for the west

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<v Speaker 3>and southwest part of the state because of the smoke.

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<v Speaker 3>It's unfortunate. But that part of the state We've talked

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<v Speaker 3>about it for months and months and months, is the

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<v Speaker 3>part of the state. The eastern half of the state

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<v Speaker 3>has no drought. The western half of the state is

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<v Speaker 3>still druggling its drought and the trade off for rain

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<v Speaker 3>chances may come with lightning, and that of course can

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<v Speaker 3>spark additional fires. I mean, we've seen the news. You

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<v Speaker 3>know what's happening down in the Grand Canyon area in Arizona.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, unfortunate to see that the lodge was lost

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff. So the west is struggling a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>I just don't see a big enough storm right now

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<v Speaker 3>to help. But any wind can help disperse the smoke,

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<v Speaker 3>and that would be my hope, is that maybe we

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<v Speaker 3>get the smoke up in a way so that they

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<v Speaker 3>don't have to deal with the poor air quality and

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<v Speaker 3>the smell. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Frasier, Joy as always, my friend. We'll talk to

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<v Speaker 1>you next week.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep. Have a great rest of your week.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh you do? That is Dave Frasier from Fox thirty one.
