1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: You know, I love Mike. We have so much to 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,880 talk about. But with you, I you know, I got 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,240 so much to talk about because I see Mikey Moore, 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:15,320 you know, I'll see him once a month or so. 5 00:00:16,199 --> 00:00:18,920 But you, me and you have so much history together 6 00:00:19,679 --> 00:00:23,320 with all of this stuff that I can't really talk 7 00:00:23,359 --> 00:00:25,320 to anybody else about it at all. 8 00:00:25,519 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: It's funny you say that because I said that once, 9 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,239 because I think about it, and I'm like, you know, 10 00:00:30,199 --> 00:00:34,240 like there's so much that concerning the show, especially right 11 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,280 the show, like especially from its inception, like I said before, 12 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,439 like we did like the lion's share of the work 13 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:41,759 on like all the early stuff. I mean, people were 14 00:00:41,799 --> 00:00:44,520 involved every listen, I'm not, but me and you were, 15 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:48,759 like we were chained to the lift together and that 16 00:00:48,799 --> 00:00:51,640 went on for years like five, right, and then you 17 00:00:51,719 --> 00:00:54,960 were then you left, and then when things started back 18 00:00:55,039 --> 00:00:58,479 up we have all that we have like another five years. 19 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: And we kind of went back to the beginning with 20 00:01:00,679 --> 00:01:04,480 a small crew. We did and it was the majority 21 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:05,359 of it was just me and you. 22 00:01:05,719 --> 00:01:08,359 Speaker 2: That's it. It was just fun. You know, we had 23 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,760 all our guys, but you know, Brendan would come in 24 00:01:10,879 --> 00:01:14,280 do his sheet metal. You know what I'm saying. It 25 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:18,079 was good, man, It was good. And we just just 26 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:22,000 so many hours of like late nights and like just 27 00:01:22,159 --> 00:01:25,439 planning and like you know, coming up with the ideas 28 00:01:25,439 --> 00:01:28,680 and figuring out how to execute them in those detailed 29 00:01:28,719 --> 00:01:33,079 moments that were real nuance. Like it was like the 30 00:01:33,159 --> 00:01:38,200 dynamic was like what we were together was very efficient 31 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,439 for what it needed to be because we had this 32 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,439 super high level creative and then we were able to 33 00:01:43,519 --> 00:01:46,000 execute it right. And so that combination we. 34 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,079 Speaker 1: Figured it out a way to make it happen always, always, 35 00:01:49,079 --> 00:01:50,239 And we love that part of it. 36 00:01:50,719 --> 00:01:53,879 Speaker 2: Don't you think the troubleshooting for me and you is 37 00:01:53,959 --> 00:01:58,319 like it's it's it's almost all the fun. As much 38 00:01:58,359 --> 00:02:00,719 as I like the end game and what it looks like, 39 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,120 getting there is the whole thrill. That's why to go 40 00:02:04,159 --> 00:02:06,400 and do it again like we did so many times. 41 00:02:06,439 --> 00:02:09,039 We got to exercise that a lot. Most people do 42 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,560 a project like we've done hundreds of times one time 43 00:02:12,599 --> 00:02:14,360 in their life. We do it once a month, once 44 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,000 a month, you know what I'm saying. You just crank 45 00:02:16,039 --> 00:02:19,639 it around, finish, yeah, and always pushing the envelope, like 46 00:02:19,759 --> 00:02:22,919 pushing what I always felt like and I always like 47 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,039 to do it like this. We always had to push, 48 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,360 push push. I liked when we were all a little 49 00:02:29,439 --> 00:02:33,199 uncomfortable because we got the best because just when you 50 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,280 thought you did the best you can do, you realize 51 00:02:36,319 --> 00:02:36,879 you could. 52 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:37,439 Speaker 1: Do a little better. 53 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 2: I know. 54 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: And that really always did that. 55 00:02:39,759 --> 00:02:40,599 Speaker 2: We always did that. 56 00:02:40,719 --> 00:02:42,879 Speaker 1: Always. There was never a project we did where we 57 00:02:42,879 --> 00:02:45,039 were like right and you know who benefited. 58 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 2: We learned. But like our clients, clients, our clients one dude, 59 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,400 because they there was nothing out there that we were 60 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,719 never like the company that was like we built bikes. No. Never, 61 00:02:55,879 --> 00:02:59,000 we were like, we're gonna crush it. We're gonna crush it. 62 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:00,800 We're gonna sell the brand, and we're going to fully 63 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,479 integrate who they are. And they're not going to see it, 64 00:03:03,479 --> 00:03:04,879 but when they see it, they're going to be so 65 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,199 relieved that it looks this damn good, you know, I know. 66 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:09,919 So it's crazy. 67 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,479 Speaker 1: That is crazy, man, that is it's just great. 68 00:03:12,599 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 2: It's yeah. 69 00:03:13,879 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: I think about it all the time and we're so 70 00:03:17,159 --> 00:03:19,840 fortunate to be able to do all that stuff and 71 00:03:19,879 --> 00:03:23,159 not hunting for it, no, just doing what you wanted 72 00:03:23,199 --> 00:03:23,400 to do. 73 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 2: That's it, man. People got to fight tooth and nail 74 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,199 every part of two projects we did. 75 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,159 Speaker 1: Even the crap that we had to deal with. We 76 00:03:30,159 --> 00:03:32,639 were fortunate, yes, because first of all, that helps. 77 00:03:32,439 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: You grow very much. So it helps you grow up, 78 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,199 it does, you know, even though you think you're an 79 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,080 adult at the time. You know, when you're in your dude, 80 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,280 early mid twenties, we thought we knew everything. I know, 81 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,599 you know, and you really don't. You really don't. 82 00:03:45,599 --> 00:03:48,199 Speaker 1: And I even see now I'm fifty two. Yeah, I'm 83 00:03:48,199 --> 00:03:51,599 still learning all the time, especially with new computer stuff. 84 00:03:51,599 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: With cars, you probably got to keep up with that, huh. 85 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,199 Speaker 1: I spend almost the whole morning out in the parking 86 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,280 lot getting everything ready for the boy because they need 87 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,639 to know what to do, and I'm the only diagnoser 88 00:04:03,759 --> 00:04:04,840 and shop you know. 89 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:06,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like you got a good system. 90 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:07,159 Speaker 1: We do. 91 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 2: We have a system. 92 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: I have such a good crew. 93 00:04:09,479 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great. Man. So you're orchestrating, You're you're running 94 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,280 top down, and everyone's doing their thing and you got 95 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,360 a good team. That's sounds like how it was with us. 96 00:04:18,439 --> 00:04:20,000 We had the same kind of situation. 97 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,399 Speaker 1: Everybody's got their job, you know, and then there's always 98 00:04:23,439 --> 00:04:25,319 a guy like I was always the guy and I 99 00:04:25,319 --> 00:04:25,680 am here. 100 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: You got to wear every hat, right of course. Yeah, 101 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,040 but you're also the owner. That's that's always going to be. 102 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: But even at the shop, I always had to help everybody. 103 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 2: Of course, Yes, you're right, You're right. 104 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: I just that's just the kind of guy. That's my personality. 105 00:04:36,439 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're also well rounded, so that makes you 106 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,639 you could apply your you're what you're understanding multiple things, 107 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,920 right exactly. Yeah, yeah, definitely, that's what universe. 108 00:04:44,959 --> 00:04:47,079 Speaker 1: That's what makes me happy though. Yeah, you know, it's 109 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,800 just that's who I am. Ye, so, but yeah, it 110 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:50,439 was it was great. 111 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 2: Man. 112 00:04:50,639 --> 00:04:52,519 Speaker 1: It's great being able to catch up like this because, 113 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,199 like I said, we could talk on the phone or 114 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,720 see each other and talk for ten minutes, but you 115 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:57,600 don't get to kind of. 116 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 2: Especially as time like the right, that's what we're doing 117 00:05:01,639 --> 00:05:04,160 reminiscently are the older we get, the more we want 118 00:05:04,199 --> 00:05:06,639 to be doing this, you know what I'm saying. We 119 00:05:06,639 --> 00:05:08,839 were busy for a while, and now we're like, well, 120 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,800 you know, when are we going to take time? If 121 00:05:10,879 --> 00:05:13,040 not now, because you start to think about things a 122 00:05:13,079 --> 00:05:17,360 little bit, you know. But yeah, this has been great man. 123 00:05:17,399 --> 00:05:19,879 I appreciate you letting me come and park on your 124 00:05:19,879 --> 00:05:22,279 doorstep inside your shop version. 125 00:05:22,439 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: I know, I know, listen, it's great you could have 126 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,879 came here because it made it happen. It took a 127 00:05:26,879 --> 00:05:29,560 big burden off me trying to figure out when I'm 128 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,319 going to do this and get it done. And with 129 00:05:31,399 --> 00:05:34,000 the bike event coming up to it's a great time 130 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,879 to do it because we were playing on waiting until yeah, 131 00:05:37,879 --> 00:05:38,240 but that. 132 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 2: Wasn't gonna work. This this works out good for me. 133 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,040 You know, I got this trailer from Right Trailers. These guys, 134 00:05:44,079 --> 00:05:45,920 I mean, what do you think of this thing? 135 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: This trailer is awesome. 136 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,199 Speaker 2: It's amazing. Right this is an intact all aluminum too. 137 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,160 They did a great job, didn't they. Even our lights 138 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,920 are working out good for for the podcast side of it. 139 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: These lights are killing it. Even you don't even have 140 00:05:58,079 --> 00:06:01,360 a generator on here yet, no things having dimmed one bit. 141 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 2: He's not going to go up and down. 142 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,759 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, because it plugged into the truck and oh. 143 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Oh, it's pulling on the battery. It's sharing 144 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:10,519 the battery and then when. 145 00:06:10,439 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: You start that, it'll charge it. Whatever is in this 146 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:13,920 I don't know what they have in here. For batteries. 147 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,759 Speaker 2: But well, I just got that one car battery there 148 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,120 that runs, you know, because it's got the electric lift 149 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,240 on it. But but you mean, all the years we've 150 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,639 been driving around using trailers, and this is the nicest 151 00:06:24,639 --> 00:06:26,920 one I've ever been into, Because I'm telling you, when 152 00:06:26,959 --> 00:06:29,279 I first saw this, I was tickled because we've had 153 00:06:29,319 --> 00:06:30,079 tons of trailers. 154 00:06:30,079 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: Remember the first one that we went down to freaking 155 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:33,560 steal pony with that trailer? 156 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 2: What did it have like a wood floor in it? Oh? 157 00:06:35,639 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: It was it was it was checkered. 158 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, checkered. That's that's right. 159 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's still I remember we I don't want 160 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,759 to keep going on, but you're good. I remember one 161 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,160 of the events we went, I think it was Cincinnati, 162 00:06:48,639 --> 00:06:50,399 and then we had to go move somewhere else and 163 00:06:50,439 --> 00:06:52,519 it was too many people and we all sat on 164 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,879 the bikes in the trailer and just went that way. 165 00:06:56,079 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 2: When they drove like a merry go round. It was hilarious. 166 00:07:00,079 --> 00:07:02,519 Speaker 1: It's just the stuff that you dealt with in the beginning, 167 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,959 you know. Yeah, And it doesn't make it any worse, Nope, no, 168 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,920 not at all. It makes you to appreciate this kind 169 00:07:09,959 --> 00:07:10,360 of trailer. 170 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,439 Speaker 2: You do, man, And we had some slummy trailers and 171 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,720 they got beat up bad. But I'm telling you do 172 00:07:15,839 --> 00:07:18,560 when this thing showed up, even the way that tailgate 173 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,560 goes down, it has that extra thing you know when 174 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,720 you fabricate stuff. Even this wheel well, you take those 175 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,040 two screws off and that whole wheelwell comes out and 176 00:07:26,079 --> 00:07:28,759 it just to me, it's like everything you would love 177 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,759 to build this right here, you know what I mean? 178 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:31,240 I know. 179 00:07:31,759 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: And so speaking of bikes, putting them in trailers, I 180 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,480 think one of the coolest things we ever did is 181 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,079 at the end we started, remember we started making the 182 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,000 mounts water jetting them in the bottom with the air suspension, 183 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,680 and we'd let them down and they would sit flat. 184 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: And we're that nice man. And that's smart because. 185 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: Those kind of ideas are the things I love, I know, 186 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,920 because still to see and see machine. That's all I 187 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:53,759 do is think about how. 188 00:07:53,639 --> 00:07:56,519 Speaker 2: To improve things. You're fixing problems. Yeah, you're just fixing 189 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,600 little problems and making better things. 190 00:07:58,360 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: Making better things. 191 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I'm with you, I know, all right, Well, 192 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,439 I won't keep you. It's pitch black out and I'm 193 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,600 sure you got to go home for dinner. But i'd 194 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,480 love to do this again. I'm telling you, man, this 195 00:08:09,519 --> 00:08:12,160 has got me inspired because I feel like I gotta 196 00:08:12,199 --> 00:08:14,680 go take this thing. I gotta go anywhere. Man, Well 197 00:08:14,759 --> 00:08:17,600 you can park this anywhere, dude. I'll get a generator 198 00:08:17,639 --> 00:08:20,240 for it, just to keep that battery up. But I mean, 199 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,319 what else do you need? Man, we're mobile, we always 200 00:08:23,319 --> 00:08:23,759 free cam. 201 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,399 Speaker 1: We've got to get an acun in here. 202 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 2: I think you're right, that would be nice. 203 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: They do they they'll go right in them things you 204 00:08:29,319 --> 00:08:32,000 take out that vent that a right on top, they 205 00:08:32,039 --> 00:08:34,720 go right on top, yeap, and that then you'd be 206 00:08:34,799 --> 00:08:36,840 really I mean, then you can close the doors. You 207 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,200 could stay the night in here. Yeah you had to. 208 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're right. Put a little cot. Yeah. 209 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:42,799 Speaker 1: I just love these aluminum floors. 210 00:08:42,799 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 2: And I like these airline what are they called? Oh yeah, yeah, 211 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,000 they're so nice. There's so much nice. 212 00:08:50,639 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: Click come off. 213 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:52,759 Speaker 2: Yeah. 214 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: Ye nice for cleaning too if you get caught. 215 00:08:54,799 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, even if you want to pull up with 216 00:08:56,639 --> 00:08:59,639 two bikes in here, I could bring two bikes on 217 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,720 a pot and just set up and have the bikes 218 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,200 right here, right here, and roll them out if you 219 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,960 needed to imagine if you did this live, just pull 220 00:09:08,039 --> 00:09:11,679 up to some event and park it like a tailgating 221 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:12,720 thing or something like that. 222 00:09:12,759 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: You can do a lot live podcast right out of here. Yeah, 223 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:17,480 with real questions. 224 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:21,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, with people sitting out there in chairs. It could work, man, Nate, 225 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:23,320 come on, make it happen, bro. 226 00:09:23,799 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: You could do it at the bike event. 227 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,919 Speaker 2: Oh why not. We're going to be there anyway anyway. 228 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,679 All right, we're doing a podcast. You're coming, Nate? Yeah, 229 00:09:35,759 --> 00:09:37,240 I like it, man, We could do it. 230 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 1: We could even pick the sketchiest person out to COVID. 231 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:44,519 Speaker 2: Here and sit. Hey, no, we're going to start advertising it. 232 00:09:44,759 --> 00:09:46,360 I'm telling you. We could do this at night and 233 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,519 just do a Q and A. Bro, we don't even 234 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,279 need to talk. Could we don't even need to talk 235 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,519 to each other. Let's do it. We're going to add 236 00:09:53,519 --> 00:09:55,279 this to the Q and A the TRUP. We're gonna 237 00:09:55,279 --> 00:09:57,559 be there anyway. All I need is this and some 238 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,639 camera equipment. Are you coming, dude? This is done. I 239 00:10:01,759 --> 00:10:06,440 like it, man, live, podcast, Q and A all three. 240 00:10:06,639 --> 00:10:09,600 I think live would go sick. We never do anything live. 241 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: That would be the best. 242 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 2: It would be best people out here and people at home, 243 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:18,919 live going straight out there. Man, that would do well, 244 00:10:19,799 --> 00:10:21,759 all right, I'm in it man, and we got Michael 245 00:10:21,919 --> 00:10:24,320 be there. Maybe we can get Rick to come. These 246 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,120 three of us is like perfect, especially if it was 247 00:10:27,159 --> 00:10:29,799 like question and answer. We would need a microphone for 248 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,919 the cameras for who's asking the question and another camera 249 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,639 on that person. That way you can you know, edit 250 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:38,279 it up later. 251 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, that could be good. 252 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 2: Right. We love answering questions, don't you love that? It's 253 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,120 like the easiest funnest stuff you can ever do. 254 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: You know what was funny? I was bringing Vanessa to 255 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:53,080 Binghamton the other day and some fans are still obsessed 256 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,720 with the show. Oh I know, I know this dude. 257 00:10:56,799 --> 00:10:58,679 I was getting in my box truck because I brought 258 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,039 the box truck up to mover her and I'm going 259 00:11:01,039 --> 00:11:01,320 to get it. 260 00:11:01,399 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 2: And he loves you. 261 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,759 Speaker 1: Man, I'm like thinking that maybe I know the guy. 262 00:11:07,879 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 2: And he comes over and he's like, dude, we were 263 00:11:09,879 --> 00:11:10,840 just talking about you. 264 00:11:10,919 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: We still watched the show. He was like, he's from 265 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:14,639 a Long Island. 266 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love you. Yeah, dude, I'm telling 267 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:19,919 you know what you know. Let me tell you about 268 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,279 that guy. Guy probably does pretty well, probably a legit guy, 269 00:11:23,639 --> 00:11:27,200 but he genuinely loves you. And that's a real and 270 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,120 I'll tell you what. That's American chopper right there. Whatever 271 00:11:30,159 --> 00:11:32,879 you might think about it, it's that exact thing. Because 272 00:11:32,919 --> 00:11:35,919 I'll tell you I just did an event. I'm repping 273 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:41,399 this product retise and we were at the Ace Hardware 274 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,759 show and they're all business owners because so Ace Hardware, 275 00:11:44,759 --> 00:11:48,080 they're all individually owned, so corporate doesn't tell they make 276 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,039 suggestions and they have the warehouse. But as an owner, 277 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,200 you could buy what you want. They can't make you 278 00:11:53,279 --> 00:11:56,799 stock stuff. So so you have all these individual owners there, dude, 279 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,600 and they're all like losing their minds. I'm there with 280 00:11:59,639 --> 00:12:02,039 the black Win home shaking hands. The guys are coming up, 281 00:12:02,159 --> 00:12:05,120 these guys like three hundred stores. I mean, these are 282 00:12:05,159 --> 00:12:09,200 accomplished people, and they have such an appreciation. Man, it's 283 00:12:09,279 --> 00:12:13,200 such a genuine thing. It's not fanboy. It's like a respect. 284 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,759 They have a respect for you, you know, and. 285 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: That's because you weren't acting. 286 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,399 Speaker 2: You weren't acting, and you did cool shit. You build 287 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,200 things that every time and you know what, every time 288 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,600 they sat down, they watched more cool stuff and they 289 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,080 couldn't believe it that it could get any cooler from 290 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,480 the last time, and that went on for ten years 291 00:12:30,519 --> 00:12:33,279 of their lives and now they're fifty, you know what 292 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:33,720 I mean. 293 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: And you know, another thing too is the amount of 294 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,600 kids that are in their early to mid twenties. I 295 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,679 just went, We just stayed at Winding Hills with our 296 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,159 camper for two weeks and I leave it there and 297 00:12:45,159 --> 00:12:46,759 then we just go when we watch It's a nice 298 00:12:46,799 --> 00:12:47,639 the Street. I love it. 299 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 2: So we go there. 300 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,919 Speaker 1: And the kid that I was going to, you know, 301 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,279 you go to the fill the paperwork in camp. He 302 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:55,919 was a young guy and I could see he was 303 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,039 looking at me like he knew this. It was like 304 00:12:58,159 --> 00:13:00,639 elbowing me. And she's like, I know, She's like, this 305 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,360 guy is like obsessed with you say, and you know, 306 00:13:04,399 --> 00:13:06,080 the guy was like, I'm just telling you. I'm just 307 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:06,799 I'm a big fan. 308 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 309 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: I grew up from like five years old watching you 310 00:13:10,279 --> 00:13:12,679 with my dad. And there's a lot of them kids 311 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,399 out there that I wouldn't think would be a fan 312 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,039 that I didn't think they knew about it, but they 313 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:17,799 grew up with their dad watching it. 314 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 2: I know, so they were little. Yeah, And you got 315 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:24,080 to remember too, man, think about it. Who people don't 316 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,679 really watch things together like that anymore, like fathers and sons. 317 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,679 I mean other than sports, dude, you're not getting together. 318 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:34,039 Everyone's on their phone. So that is such a memory 319 00:13:34,159 --> 00:13:36,159 for these guys, and now they know what it is 320 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,080 to not have that exist anymore. 321 00:13:38,159 --> 00:13:39,759 Speaker 1: It doesn't exist, it doesn't exist. 322 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 2: So they lived a point in time. And you know, 323 00:13:42,039 --> 00:13:44,639 a lot of these guys they're fifty, so you know, 324 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,559 people move on pass away, and they did these things 325 00:13:48,879 --> 00:13:51,879 watching our show together. So it's so important to them, 326 00:13:52,159 --> 00:13:54,559 you know, it really is. It's not just a show 327 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,919 that was on twenty years ago or started twenty years ago. 328 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,240 There's a lot of shows like that. It's a show 329 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:04,000 that lasted for a decade and made a lasting impression 330 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,360 on the globe, not just the States. Because you know, 331 00:14:07,519 --> 00:14:08,840 and I'm not patting myself on. 332 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: Stating fact, Yes, this is the reality of it. 333 00:14:13,279 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 2: That's the reality of it. 334 00:14:14,279 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: That's in the diverse crowd. I could never get my 335 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,799 mind wrapped around that. It could be eighty year old 336 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:25,639 women housewives. No, it could be trench diggers, anything from 337 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,840 any party. You know. 338 00:14:27,879 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 2: People said, I didn't watch the show. I wasn't into motorcycles, 339 00:14:30,399 --> 00:14:34,360 and I thought nobody who watched the show is into motorcycles. 340 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: The majority of them weren't. 341 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 2: There were bikers, but some people didn't even like motorcycles. 342 00:14:38,759 --> 00:14:41,840 They just they love the process. It's it's it's age 343 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:46,360 old Americana working with your hands, being creative. And the 344 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,600 theme too, you know, you do a fire by. 345 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: A lot of people loved you and your dad even 346 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,879 though it was you know, it was toxic at times, 347 00:14:52,919 --> 00:14:57,440 but it was just the interaction. Listen, amount of families. 348 00:14:57,559 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 2: Listen the reaction between me and my our interaction which 349 00:15:01,879 --> 00:15:04,720 you kind of knew before before television, right, so you 350 00:15:04,759 --> 00:15:07,639 knew it was volatile, right, So this was way before 351 00:15:08,039 --> 00:15:12,320 camera showed up. But my father, in his volatility, made 352 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:16,600 the show from the standpoint of like it put a magnifice, 353 00:15:16,639 --> 00:15:20,360 you know, it was the sensational thing that everybody loved 354 00:15:20,399 --> 00:15:22,559 to hate you know at times, right, I agree, But 355 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,879 it was that that was the catalyst, was my father, 356 00:15:26,919 --> 00:15:29,679 because I wasn't that personality. I was the guy who 357 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,960 tried not to fight until I couldn't anymore and then 358 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,200 I lost my mind. I didn't I wasn't able to 359 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:39,559 provoke that type of dynamic he was. Was it bad, yes, sometimes, 360 00:15:39,639 --> 00:15:40,519 but if I. 361 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,919 Speaker 1: Look back at it for the show, it was great. 362 00:15:43,039 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 2: I don't look at it like in any kind of 363 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,960 negative way because it had so many attributes, you know, 364 00:15:48,159 --> 00:15:50,000 like you're just gonna look at the one bad part. 365 00:15:50,399 --> 00:15:53,440 Look what it afforded us, like all of this experience, 366 00:15:53,559 --> 00:15:53,840 you know. 367 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: And that's what it's about, because at the end of 368 00:15:56,159 --> 00:15:58,799 the day, forget about all the material things, forget about 369 00:15:58,799 --> 00:15:59,080 it all. 370 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 2: It's all about it's all. That's it. Man, You're right, 371 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,200 it's not the way. The money is always nice and 372 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,080 you want it and you need it, but hey, have 373 00:16:06,159 --> 00:16:08,600 you got enough to go out to dinner once a 374 00:16:08,639 --> 00:16:10,879 week and see your family and have a nice roof 375 00:16:10,919 --> 00:16:11,519 over your head? 376 00:16:12,279 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: What do you need? 377 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,279 Speaker 2: Bro? You need like millions and millions of dollars. It's nice, 378 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:17,879 you know, if you can have a lot of money, 379 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:18,960 But that's not. 380 00:16:18,879 --> 00:16:22,399 Speaker 1: Whatever makes as long as that's not important, because exactly. 381 00:16:22,039 --> 00:16:24,519 Speaker 2: Here's what happens. It's lonely in the end. If that's 382 00:16:24,559 --> 00:16:26,600 how you feel about it, that's how you feel. If 383 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,120 that money is that important to you, it's it doesn't end. 384 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,639 Speaker 1: You have to be happy first to enjoy money. 385 00:16:32,759 --> 00:16:34,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, gouldn't agree more. 386 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,039 Speaker 1: Exactly so, And you know what, it makes it better too, 387 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:38,240 when you work hard for it. 388 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,679 Speaker 2: It does, it does, it does, and. 389 00:16:40,639 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: You know, you know what, I appreciate it. 390 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 2: I'm telling you because when I we started the show, 391 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,039 like you were, you work forever. I worked in the 392 00:16:47,039 --> 00:16:49,159 steel business for like I think I was twelve years 393 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:53,120 in right when the show came, maybe maybe thirteen, working hard, 394 00:16:53,799 --> 00:16:56,360 have nothing to show for it, having nothing to show 395 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,600 for it, like you know that paycheck barely made it 396 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,240 to Monday, right, and that for a decade of your 397 00:17:01,279 --> 00:17:04,200 adult life, and that was it. So when success came 398 00:17:04,279 --> 00:17:07,799 and any kind of money, right, that was a whole. 399 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,680 Like you had an appreciation for how much like that 400 00:17:11,799 --> 00:17:12,440 money was. 401 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: Because you know how hard it is to make that. 402 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,559 Speaker 2: Can nobody makes it. I mean, you're not making it, 403 00:17:16,599 --> 00:17:19,200 and especially if you like think about it, and then 404 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,960 even over time, you know, you start getting paid for 405 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:27,359 the show, and I mean, it's just it blew my mind. Financially, 406 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:31,519 the show was good. I feel like, you know, certainly 407 00:17:32,799 --> 00:17:35,640 you can have arguments with that from every direction because 408 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:39,480 it was so insane, but I will say that it 409 00:17:39,519 --> 00:17:42,119 afforded me a lot. It really did, you know, I mean, 410 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,000 it really did. And I always appreciated it. Yeah, and 411 00:17:45,079 --> 00:17:46,559 at least I understood the value. 412 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: Maybe I didn't always do the right. 413 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,839 Speaker 2: Thing right, but I understood the value just from all 414 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,680 those years of working, you know, just from having time 415 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,799 in and going. I know what it is to work 416 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,920 sixty hours and hard work in the sun whatever, you know. 417 00:18:01,279 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: And that's the thing you got to do with your 418 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,720 kids too, And that's what I do with mine. That's 419 00:18:04,759 --> 00:18:07,319 why they work here. They have to know what it takes, 420 00:18:07,799 --> 00:18:10,799 you know. I love that they do do that, you 421 00:18:10,839 --> 00:18:12,279 know what I mean? They have to. 422 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, or else you can't really instill those values, 423 00:18:15,759 --> 00:18:18,079 you can't. You got to show them you do. 424 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,599 Speaker 1: And like I said, to even want my kids, they 425 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,039 have to pay for their guests, They have to pay 426 00:18:22,039 --> 00:18:24,480 for their insurance. They need to know what it takes 427 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,200 to drive a vehicle. You know how much it costs. 428 00:18:27,279 --> 00:18:29,039 Speaker 2: I know. But you know you got a good system 429 00:18:29,039 --> 00:18:31,400 because you just gave your You got your son a car, right, 430 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,160 but he knows. Okay, here's responsible it is. Yeah. 431 00:18:34,319 --> 00:18:36,799 Speaker 1: I like that all my kids got their first car, 432 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,279 that was it. Yeah, you know, and I maintain their 433 00:18:39,279 --> 00:18:42,240 cars and everything for them. They're all here when I 434 00:18:42,279 --> 00:18:44,720 do it, yeah, right, to see what's got to be done. 435 00:18:44,799 --> 00:18:46,839 They got to notice sweat that goes into it. Yeah, 436 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,200 because I got to not only financially do it, I 437 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,519 gotta I gotta do the physical work to do it too. 438 00:18:51,519 --> 00:18:54,039 Speaker 2: Right, you know. And it's kind of your dad was 439 00:18:54,079 --> 00:18:56,759 that way with you. He was maybe a little harsher, but. 440 00:18:56,839 --> 00:18:59,839 Speaker 1: He was definitely a little harsher. Yeah, but it doesn't 441 00:18:59,839 --> 00:19:01,279 matter because it made me who I am. 442 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 2: That's right. You took what you took, what the aspect 443 00:19:04,079 --> 00:19:07,039 you liked of it the best, and you're applying it now, 444 00:19:07,559 --> 00:19:09,759 you know exactly. Yeah. 445 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: I don't ever look bad on it or look back 446 00:19:12,039 --> 00:19:15,519 on it bad. Yeah, you know, right, but that's great, man. 447 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, five five man, fricking ay, dude, I know I 448 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,039 appreciate you. This is good. We're gonna do this more 449 00:19:22,079 --> 00:19:24,079 if you're good with it. Yeah, I mean I'll show 450 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,920 up here. We should definitely do that when we go to. 451 00:19:27,839 --> 00:19:29,519 Speaker 1: The bike Why wouldn't you. 452 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:33,759 Speaker 2: Everything's here American Bike Fest Podcast. That's what we're doing. 453 00:19:34,839 --> 00:19:35,359 I like it. 454 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, you just got to bring You're gonna have bikes in. 455 00:19:39,759 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 2: Here, right, No, they're going to be inside. This shall 456 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:43,880 be empty the whole time. 457 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: No, when you're bringing it. Yes, so you just got 458 00:19:47,519 --> 00:19:48,880 to be able to bring the seats and stuff. 459 00:19:49,079 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 2: Ish, we could do this on We could do this 460 00:19:51,559 --> 00:19:56,119 on little It's just you need somewhere for the microphones. 461 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,400 You're right, and we got We could get different kinds 462 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,640 too if we wanted to. Yeah, we could do it 463 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,759 up on stage. That's what we're gonna do. And we'll 464 00:20:03,759 --> 00:20:04,519 do it indoors. 465 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: You actually could yet, we'll do it. 466 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 2: And they have the smaller bar where they have the bands. 467 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,759 I'm gonna talk to these guys. Let's do that. Why 468 00:20:13,799 --> 00:20:18,039 wouldn't we do that? Well, we could do. 469 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: An outdoors good. This is kind of more Yeah, it 470 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:26,480 looks cool. Yeah, this is kind of more of in 471 00:20:26,559 --> 00:20:27,240 the shop, you. 472 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 2: Know, pops huh wow, Yeah, my shop's busy. 473 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: These lights are phenomenal. These are and they didn't dim 474 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,960 one bit. Yeah, the LEDs draw so little. 475 00:20:41,039 --> 00:20:43,559 Speaker 2: I know it does break. It's nice and breaking here. 476 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: They haven't. They haven't changed one bit. Yeah, so does 477 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,920 they see un as I was telling you about, they're 478 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,880 that exact diameter. You take that out, they literally slide 479 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,599 in and you got a wire, put a thermostat on 480 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:57,960 the wall. 481 00:20:58,079 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, this would be nothing in the 482 00:21:00,319 --> 00:21:01,799 cool right. 483 00:21:02,279 --> 00:21:04,759 Speaker 1: One AC unit for an RV done. 484 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,559 Speaker 2: Dang man, we're going camping. I could see camping in here, 485 00:21:09,839 --> 00:21:11,839 especially when it's this new, so you can walk around 486 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,079 barefoot in here because you my camper, My camp is nice. Yeah, 487 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,480 really really nice. Well, you guys camp all the time. 488 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:18,039 We do. 489 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: We're actually going to Bethel to see Blink one E two. 490 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,319 Oh really, Bethel's got a campground, so I'm like, what's 491 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,559 the worst part about a concert is driving? 492 00:21:26,759 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 2: That's right, you can fall camping there. 493 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna park there at Shawny's coming real yeah, a 494 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,039 bunch of people. So we're gonna park there at like 495 00:21:34,079 --> 00:21:38,079 two o'clock, dail gating. We're gonna hang out at the camper. 496 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 2: Drink, have a bathroom whatever, go to. 497 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: The concert, and when you're done, you can stumble back 498 00:21:44,039 --> 00:21:45,200 to the campground if you want. 499 00:21:45,279 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 2: We're gonna worry. It's like, that's such a good idea, man, 500 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,559 think about it, because then you got to come home 501 00:21:52,319 --> 00:21:54,000 two hours or an hour and a half. 502 00:21:54,400 --> 00:22:00,319 Speaker 1: That's twelve at night after through the woods with the deer, right, 503 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,480 it's crazy. Now we're going to actually we're going to 504 00:22:02,519 --> 00:22:04,319 Rhode Island Wednesday night. 505 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:04,839 Speaker 2: We're leaving. 506 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:09,519 Speaker 1: I'm taking It's just me, Meliss, Vincent, Chase, and Aiden, 507 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,039 who are all good friends. 508 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 2: Nice boy fun. So where do you go out there? 509 00:22:14,799 --> 00:22:18,759 Speaker 1: Well, I seasonal camped up in Rhode Island for two years. 510 00:22:18,839 --> 00:22:21,759 Speaker 2: Really there, what's that mean? Season? 511 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 1: You just leave it up there for the whole whole season? Okay, 512 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,440 And we did it from nineteen nineteen and twenty. We 513 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,279 did it through COVID, which was the best thing in 514 00:22:30,279 --> 00:22:32,359 the world for us. For you, you got out because 515 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,119 nobody was able to do anything. I had two jet skis. 516 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:39,000 It's on a lake, and every weekend I had that 517 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:43,680 conversion van. Load your family up, go go to Rhode Island. 518 00:22:43,799 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 2: Remember that? 519 00:22:45,079 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh my god, it was I'm telling you, Paul, 520 00:22:47,799 --> 00:22:49,119 it was the best two years of my life. My 521 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,480 kids were still young enough where they wanted to go 522 00:22:51,559 --> 00:22:52,200 every weekend. 523 00:22:52,799 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 2: That's great, man, because that was like some of the 524 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:55,440 people's worst year. 525 00:22:55,599 --> 00:22:56,759 Speaker 1: David Lisa has been. 526 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:01,279 Speaker 2: Up there for oh forever, right, yeah, fifteen, you'd see. 527 00:23:01,079 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: That and they have though. Oh, we camped right next 528 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,400 to each other. We would come up with when we 529 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,519 were working all week because I worked with Lisa. We'd 530 00:23:08,519 --> 00:23:10,920 come up with a menu and we would cook. They 531 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,720 got an outdoor kitchen, concrete bar. I mean, they got everything. 532 00:23:15,039 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 2: And when you could just use we have twenty people there. 533 00:23:17,839 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: On a weekend and just cook lopster and all fresh 534 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,079 lops and we go to the pier and get it. 535 00:23:23,079 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 2: It was just nice. Man. Oh I'm telling you, Paul, 536 00:23:26,039 --> 00:23:29,519 we main oh Rhode Island. Yeah. 537 00:23:29,559 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, when COVID was when nobody was on the roads. 538 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,039 It's two hours forty five minutes on the dot every 539 00:23:36,079 --> 00:23:37,519 time you had traffic, obviously. 540 00:23:37,599 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's what it takes to get from here. Dude. 541 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,519 Speaker 1: We'd leave five five thirty on Friday. Everything's up there. 542 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,599 You go up there, you turn on the water, turn 543 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,440 on the hot water here and you're done. 544 00:23:47,519 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 2: Yeah. 545 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: I had had a twenty you know tent thing. I 546 00:23:52,759 --> 00:23:55,039 had a gem car in there. We had our jet 547 00:23:55,079 --> 00:23:58,960 skis I had, we did, I had my gold wing 548 00:23:59,039 --> 00:23:59,359 up there. 549 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,079 Speaker 2: I had stop doing it or well you know what. 550 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of wish I didn't, But Vanessa was 551 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,759 going into college and we're gonna be able to spend 552 00:24:07,799 --> 00:24:10,000 a lot of weekends up there. So I was like, 553 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:11,799 is it worth it spending the money to do it, 554 00:24:11,839 --> 00:24:13,640 and I kind of wish I did because we had 555 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,880 the best site in the place and it's you know. 556 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,839 Speaker 2: You had a good location on the on the grounds. 557 00:24:19,559 --> 00:24:22,319 Speaker 1: We were, we were perfect, and Lisa and Dave were 558 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,839 right next to us. And now it's gone. Yeah, and 559 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:25,640 I can't get it back. 560 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,319 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because someone stepped in there, and I. 561 00:24:28,279 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 1: Wish I would have kept it. But I'll tell you what, PAULI, 562 00:24:30,519 --> 00:24:33,240 it was some of the best two years I ever 563 00:24:33,279 --> 00:24:33,640 had one. 564 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,319 Speaker 2: So you love the r V life, huh? I do? Yeah, 565 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:37,240 it's the way to go. 566 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I'm bringing it back for Labor Day. 567 00:24:39,759 --> 00:24:42,559 We're going I'm camping or parking it back at uh 568 00:24:42,759 --> 00:24:43,440 Winning Hills. 569 00:24:43,519 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 2: Okay, because Melissa's what do you like about it? I 570 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,720 mean obviously like you had that and you would show 571 00:24:48,799 --> 00:24:49,960 up and you had you know what I. 572 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: Love about Winding Hills. It's a place you can go 573 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,960 to and you don't have to do anything like a 574 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,200 lot of places you go camping. 575 00:24:56,799 --> 00:24:58,599 Speaker 2: You want to go out and doing. What do you 576 00:24:58,640 --> 00:24:59,640 do when you get there? 577 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:00,799 Speaker 1: Where Winning Hill? 578 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 2: Yeah? 579 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 1: I got my flat top, my thirty six inch flat Okay, 580 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,720 So you're I got a big ten by twenty ten, 581 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,240 and like, I'm we'll invite Shawnee Jill. 582 00:25:11,559 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, just everybody, Yeah, everybody, because everyone lives right here. 583 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody lives right here, not far there. We cook 584 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,079 a massive meal and everybody. 585 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,519 Speaker 2: How fun is that? So much fire going? 586 00:25:22,519 --> 00:25:24,839 Speaker 1: I'm a fire going. We have all the tatiki lights 587 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:25,880 up or whatever they're called. 588 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 2: You know, man, that sounds like fun. It is. My 589 00:25:28,519 --> 00:25:30,440 wife's been on me a little bit to get every 590 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,559 time we give buy a motor home, She's like, let's 591 00:25:32,559 --> 00:25:34,920 get that's what I really want. Yeah, motor home. 592 00:25:35,079 --> 00:25:38,519 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I almost bought one this year. And then 593 00:25:38,559 --> 00:25:40,519 I'm like, I don't know. I still got my camper. 594 00:25:40,559 --> 00:25:42,799 I gotta sell that. And now we're building a house, 595 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,680 you know, So I'm like, I don't know, maybe I'll 596 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:46,759 just keep the camper for now. 597 00:25:47,039 --> 00:25:49,279 Speaker 2: It's nice. I think I think it's probably a step 598 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,640 up from you know, you think about it, man. 599 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,839 Speaker 1: Because you just get in it and you go. When 600 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,880 you're driving, like Lisa and Dave they got a freaking 601 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,920 coach like sick it's said, and I go, well the 602 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,440 road with them sometimes, like we'll go down We went 603 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,279 down to Deston and it's just it's great because you 604 00:26:05,279 --> 00:26:10,240 know I'm driving. She's got a charcouterie boarding. 605 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,079 Speaker 2: Stuffy king on the road. 606 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 1: It's just it's amazing. 607 00:26:13,599 --> 00:26:14,759 Speaker 2: I love it. 608 00:26:15,079 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: And you know what, I got a spot in the 609 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,240 back of my shop where when I'm not using the RV, 610 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,480 I'll park it back there. I got to plug into 611 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,400 the wall. I got water if I'm working late every 612 00:26:24,559 --> 00:26:26,799 day in the V if I want, everything's on. 613 00:26:27,079 --> 00:26:29,279 Speaker 2: Ready that's nice. So it's so ready. 614 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,799 Speaker 1: Guys out, Yeah nice, Yeah, so it is fine. I 615 00:26:32,839 --> 00:26:34,319 love it. Yeah, I'll never. 616 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 2: Stop doing Yeah, man, I think I got to get 617 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:37,680 into it because it sounds like fun. 618 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: And then you know, one day when I retire, I 619 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,799 just I want to travel a lot. So yeah, yeah, 620 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,599 I love it. So cool, man, that's great. We can 621 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:47,559 sit here and talk all night. 622 00:26:48,039 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 2: I know we can wrap it up. Well. We just 623 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,440 bought a house that I tell you. We bought a 624 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,000 house in Jersey. You said you were not at the 625 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,119 beach house, but we we just bought a house on 626 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,759 some acreage and where two and a half acre is 627 00:26:58,799 --> 00:27:00,599 really nice. Man. We're gonna be and Rachel are going 628 00:27:00,599 --> 00:27:02,680 to renovate the whole house it's it's it's from two 629 00:27:02,759 --> 00:27:06,720 thousand and like three been updated it's nope, never been 630 00:27:06,759 --> 00:27:09,079 updated with real good bones. And it's like a modern 631 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,759 Victorian looking house. So we're gonna like make it look 632 00:27:12,839 --> 00:27:14,880 like an old Victorian, you know. And it's in the 633 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,920 acreage is nice there. It's got a little pond like 634 00:27:18,279 --> 00:27:22,000 all cedar trees. I'm telling you, dude, it is really nice. 635 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,400 And we're we own the whole end of the culdest 636 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,039 Ax so it's like it's gotten a nice, like stately 637 00:27:27,079 --> 00:27:29,799 approach to it. It's good. And Rachel has such a 638 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:30,759 vision for this thing. 639 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:31,839 Speaker 1: She's that's how. 640 00:27:32,079 --> 00:27:35,599 Speaker 2: She's more excited than I am, you know. So that's great. 641 00:27:35,759 --> 00:27:36,200 It's good. 642 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: I'm excited for It's great because we're gonna start building too. 643 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,200 We're doing like a modern farmhouse. Oh nice, and how 644 00:27:44,279 --> 00:27:48,279 big I don't know yet. We're we're still kind of 645 00:27:48,319 --> 00:27:51,079 modifying the plans a little bit, but it's probably gonna 646 00:27:51,079 --> 00:27:52,359 be like maybe three thousand. 647 00:27:52,519 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good. And you just got to lay it 648 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,079 out the way you want it. And that's the key 649 00:27:58,079 --> 00:27:59,960 because it is you don't want to be in there, 650 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,680 dude afterwards and go why do we do Why do 651 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,240 we do it this way? Whatever? 652 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: I know? But like I said, I got eight point 653 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,400 eight acres and the fact that Ava wants. 654 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 2: To live there, that's good acres, man, that's nice. 655 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,599 Speaker 1: And it's away from the road and I can't see 656 00:28:14,599 --> 00:28:15,680 a house from where I'm. 657 00:28:15,759 --> 00:28:19,519 Speaker 2: So you got like nice privacy. Yeah, and it's yeah, 658 00:28:19,519 --> 00:28:21,559 it's gonna that's nice, dude. You can set it up 659 00:28:21,599 --> 00:28:25,839 any way you want the house, just whatever you want. 660 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,759 Speaker 1: Clayton is literally I'm on the same private road as Clayton. 661 00:28:29,839 --> 00:28:31,039 Speaker 2: Oh is it back over there? 662 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,839 Speaker 1: Yeah? Really, And he's got his He's got like fifty 663 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,000 acres really, and he's got his house. And you know, 664 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,640 first of all, you know, he's my best friend. 665 00:28:39,519 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 2: And right, right, which makes it nice. Now you got 666 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:43,240 good neighbors. 667 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,319 Speaker 1: Vincent is best friends with his kids, you know what 668 00:28:46,359 --> 00:28:49,119 I mean. It's good. But I can't see his house 669 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,200 for mine, right, which is even bad? It is? 670 00:28:51,359 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, right, that's great. Yeah, So I'm we're excited. Good, good. Yeah, 671 00:28:56,279 --> 00:28:58,559 we'll have to follow up on that. Man, you have 672 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,240 any timeline. 673 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: Now, Like I said, I bought the property two years ago. 674 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,400 I wanted to pay the property off, so I just 675 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,960 finished paying it off, and now we're kind of just like, 676 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,799 all right, let's get an engineer, let's figure out what 677 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:11,960 the house is going to be. I'm going to go 678 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,920 in there and start clearing some stuff and then start 679 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,599 going you know. So I'm thinking, you know, by spring, 680 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,400 I mean by fall. I want to be in there, 681 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:21,640 have the property cleaned up the. 682 00:29:21,559 --> 00:29:24,039 Speaker 2: Way I want right. Right, it's all wooded. 683 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,839 Speaker 1: It's wooded, but it's not thick woods. 684 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:27,119 Speaker 2: Right. 685 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: You could drive a car through there if you had to, right, 686 00:29:29,599 --> 00:29:31,160 But there's a lot of falling stuff. 687 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 2: You know. 688 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: You told you have to clean the property. Yeah, yeah, 689 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,440 I got to go in there and use my brother's 690 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,079 good stare and clean it all up and stuff. 691 00:29:37,119 --> 00:29:39,079 Speaker 2: So I'm excited. 692 00:29:39,119 --> 00:29:40,839 Speaker 1: And it's literally a quarter mile from where I live 693 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:41,279 right now. 694 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 2: It's perfect. It's exactly where you'd want to be right 695 00:29:44,039 --> 00:29:45,200 now in life pretty much. 696 00:29:45,599 --> 00:29:45,799 Speaker 1: Yeah. 697 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 2: I know me too. I feel the same way. It's 698 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,160 a good thing because not everyone gets there. I know 699 00:29:50,319 --> 00:29:53,400 some people are not they're not like happy with things, 700 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:54,119 you know. 701 00:29:55,519 --> 00:29:58,279 Speaker 1: The only downfall to that. At my age, I don't 702 00:29:58,279 --> 00:29:59,559 want to pick up a mortgage now. 703 00:30:00,119 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, man, do what you gotta do. 704 00:30:02,759 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: I don't. 705 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,559 Speaker 2: But right, and my pretty houses have you built? 706 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: I know? But in my brain, I don't like own 707 00:30:08,559 --> 00:30:11,640 I own everything and I understand that, and I'm like 708 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,319 my my brain though, I'm like alls, I keep thinking, 709 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:15,839 is how am I going to pay this house off 710 00:30:15,839 --> 00:30:16,720 in like five years? 711 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,039 Speaker 2: Yeah? And I'll be honest with you. In the house 712 00:30:19,119 --> 00:30:21,160 we just bought, you know, we sold this house which 713 00:30:21,319 --> 00:30:24,160 we've had for a while. It's a nice house, and 714 00:30:24,359 --> 00:30:26,640 we just, you know, we were able to get this one. 715 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:31,559 We just bought with no debt. And I gotta tell you, man, 716 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,440 And this was my wife pushing me because I'm like, 717 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,960 I don't know. I just I would do whatever, you know, 718 00:30:38,079 --> 00:30:40,680 I would get a bigger mortgage and have like another 719 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,680 rental house or something like that. But she she knows, 720 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,119 she like and she loves it. She's got the vision 721 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,160 for it. But you know what, now, dude, Now we 722 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,160 just pay taxes, I know, and hopefully not even forever. 723 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: If you're going to retire anywhere in the Northeast, you 724 00:30:55,319 --> 00:30:56,119 have to own everything. 725 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 2: You have to own it. 726 00:30:57,079 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: You have to own it. 727 00:30:57,839 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, or just oh my gosh, well just 728 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,480 think about how much you paid, dude. Know I mean 729 00:31:03,599 --> 00:31:08,319 so little principle. It's ridiculous. It's actually sad, which almost 730 00:31:08,359 --> 00:31:11,440 shouldn't even be that way. But it's crazy, man, because 731 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,640 interest is a killer, a killer. 732 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,519 Speaker 1: Calculate with your payments. If you pay out your thirty 733 00:31:17,559 --> 00:31:19,279 year mortgage, how much you paid for that house, you 734 00:31:19,359 --> 00:31:20,839 paid triple triple? 735 00:31:21,519 --> 00:31:21,839 Speaker 2: You do? 736 00:31:22,079 --> 00:31:25,519 Speaker 1: I know you got to to have it free and clear? 737 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, am I talking? Am I talking? You have to 738 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:28,960 building a house or. 739 00:31:30,759 --> 00:31:31,119 Speaker 1: No? I know? 740 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I love that. I love that, well, 741 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,039 you do because two years of since you bought it, 742 00:31:37,079 --> 00:31:39,839 you paid it off first. You're taking the steps. It's 743 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,359 smart man, because you know, you want to be in 744 00:31:42,359 --> 00:31:45,400 a good position eventually with where you're at across the board, 745 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,400 right you're self employed here now that you got to 746 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,119 start rolling out a game plan for yourself, you know, 747 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,400 because no one's going to do it for you because 748 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,359 you don't work for anybody. You know, you're not like retiring. 749 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,559 You gotta line that stuff up your And I think 750 00:32:00,599 --> 00:32:02,960 there's a lot of what people don't understand when they 751 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,599 see people run businesses. They just count their money. Oh 752 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,720 you going this business? People who work for other people, 753 00:32:08,759 --> 00:32:11,079 into general sense, they do not have a clue now 754 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,599 because they can't. They don't have the experience, you know. 755 00:32:13,799 --> 00:32:15,880 They just think everyone else has lots of money that 756 00:32:16,279 --> 00:32:17,960 has their own business. But it's a lot. 757 00:32:18,599 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: When they see somebody pay you, you know, fifteen hundred 758 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,079 dollars to work on their card, they think. 759 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 3: You're like, yeah, like, yeah, you're not paying for parts 760 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,400 or overhead or overhead and all, like you know what 761 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,279 it costs to keep this freaking place right, You're right, man, 762 00:32:31,839 --> 00:32:33,400 I appreciate it, yes for sure. 763 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course you got to, especially when you're self employed. 764 00:32:36,799 --> 00:32:40,759 Yeah you get a big oh yeah learning about that. 765 00:32:41,279 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 2: But it's the best it is. It's total freedom. Yeah, 766 00:32:44,799 --> 00:32:47,519 you do. You want to leave on Friday because you 767 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,160 want to go somewhere for a long weekend, you leave 768 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,720 on Friday morning, you know what I mean. So you 769 00:32:52,759 --> 00:32:55,599 make the rules, but you got you could do that, 770 00:32:56,079 --> 00:32:59,720 you or you got to be ahead of it, you know. Hey, guys, listen, 771 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,839 I'm not going to be here tomorrow, I know. And 772 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,640 you gotta lay it all out. Yeah, we got a problem, call. 773 00:33:04,599 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: Me, Yeah, but what comes to that? I'm here five 774 00:33:07,079 --> 00:33:09,640 forty five every morning, yeah, because I have to get 775 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,480 ready for everything. Yeah, And I'm usually never home by 776 00:33:12,759 --> 00:33:13,440 six o'clock. 777 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,759 Speaker 2: You know. It's great, you know, but listen if that's why. 778 00:33:16,599 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't work weekends ever. 779 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,839 Speaker 2: I know. I love that. I love that. Well, you 780 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,119 know you're you're making priority for family because otherwise when 781 00:33:24,119 --> 00:33:25,079 are you going to see everyone? 782 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: Listen when when COVID hit? I got COVID pretty bad. Yeah, 783 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,359 I remember that, and since then I never worked a 784 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:32,000 weekend again. 785 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, life is sure, yep. I'm like, I'm 786 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:35,839 going you were cooked. 787 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: And I do come here a lot on weekends, but 788 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,440 on my own, right, yeah, not to do stuff I 789 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:42,359 want to work. 790 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,519 Speaker 2: No, yeah, right, I just I won't do it. Yeah. 791 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: So but that's stuff you learn as you get older. 792 00:33:48,759 --> 00:33:51,519 Speaker 2: Yeah it is. It's wisdom, Yeah it is. But you're 793 00:33:51,519 --> 00:33:54,200 still working a lot, dude, But you're fifty two, I know, 794 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,880 but that's not old. I mean, it's old. 795 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: Happened If I didn't, though, well, probably wouldn't be nearly 796 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:01,839 as healthy as I am. 797 00:34:02,039 --> 00:34:04,319 Speaker 2: No, probably not, no, no, because you're on your feet 798 00:34:04,359 --> 00:34:06,519 all day I know, yeah, not sitting at a desk. 799 00:34:06,559 --> 00:34:08,000 I don't know there's anything wrong with. 800 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: I don't do anything like that, but I work hard 801 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:11,320 all yeah. 802 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, you're on your feet walking all day, pacing 803 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:14,840 all over the place. 804 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and doing hard manual labor. So and I don't 805 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:18,679 have a problem with it. 806 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, you like it. Yeah, Yeah, it's good. 807 00:34:21,119 --> 00:34:23,400 He's probably keeping you young, honestly. 808 00:34:23,039 --> 00:34:23,639 Speaker 1: It does. 809 00:34:24,119 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 2: You know. I know. 810 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: Shit, until my father went in the hospital, he used 811 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,280 to work every day at the golf course. 812 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:30,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, and every day. 813 00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 1: That's what kept him. 814 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,039 Speaker 2: So yea good Hey guy, that guy worked. 815 00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 1: Boy, I know he did. 816 00:34:34,559 --> 00:34:37,639 Speaker 2: He was a beast, he was. He was a work machine. 817 00:34:38,519 --> 00:34:40,159 He worked and then he went to work. 818 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:41,599 Speaker 1: I know, right, he was. 819 00:34:41,639 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 2: He was. 820 00:34:42,039 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 1: He had a work ethic like ridiculous. And it's great. 821 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,480 And that's what I trying and stole my kids. 822 00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great. I love it, man, it's good. I 823 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,280 got a ten year old. I'm working on some things, 824 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,159 you know, like minecraft's kind of a big deal these days. 825 00:34:55,199 --> 00:34:57,519 But uh, he's such a good kid, and I know 826 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,400 I'll steer him. I'll keep steering him in the right direction. 827 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,079 But he's not driving or anything yet, I know. You know, 828 00:35:03,559 --> 00:35:04,840 it's good. 829 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,159 Speaker 1: It's the gaming. Yeah, oh my son, Yeah, I know. 830 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 2: But you know, I used to think like I still 831 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,400 have issue with it because we're from even though we 832 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,000 have video games, it wasn't it wasn't your life, and 833 00:35:16,079 --> 00:35:18,800 it was your life and now it is kids. So 834 00:35:19,119 --> 00:35:21,519 but I also see how he is with his peers 835 00:35:21,559 --> 00:35:23,679 and they're all the same way. Man, They're all playing 836 00:35:23,679 --> 00:35:26,960 the same games together, and it's like this is like 837 00:35:27,039 --> 00:35:30,679 a cultural shift on it. I worry about the whole 838 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,159 blue screen and the brain scramble because at certain ages 839 00:35:34,199 --> 00:35:36,320 you can see, Man, they play for too long and 840 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,480 they're like glazed over and they need more, you know, 841 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,280 like us with our phones. We're kind of like big kids, 842 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:42,559 you know. 843 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,559 Speaker 1: So and that's part of the reason why I have 844 00:35:45,639 --> 00:35:47,400 Vince here too, because I got to get him ways 845 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:48,320 from that stuff for a bit. 846 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes sense. 847 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 1: He has to see what goes on, and it's. 848 00:35:52,119 --> 00:35:55,199 Speaker 2: Good for because he's got to figure it out. He 849 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,760 does with his hands, with his hands and not on 850 00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,599 the remote, but like wrenching. 851 00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:02,079 Speaker 1: I know, and I want to be able to do 852 00:36:02,159 --> 00:36:06,199 things too. That when AI gets really bad, they're going 853 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,480 to take a lot of the jobs at probably right, 854 00:36:08,599 --> 00:36:11,079 not that we're doing, no, but they're going to be 855 00:36:11,079 --> 00:36:13,079 taken on the ones that they're gonna yeah, I think. 856 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,559 Speaker 2: This will be the last kind of thing to go, 857 00:36:14,639 --> 00:36:17,880 I know, because to figure all that out, the troubleshooting 858 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,960 part and the mechanical you know, like the brain to hand. 859 00:36:21,079 --> 00:36:23,880 Of course, someday they'll get there. But you're right, it's 860 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:24,920 not coming here first. 861 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:25,559 Speaker 1: No, it's not. 862 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 2: It's going to come in prior to the creative world 863 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,039 and stuff. To be honest with you, Oh right, think 864 00:36:30,079 --> 00:36:30,559 about it. 865 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,679 Speaker 1: All these video game coders and all these you know, 866 00:36:34,039 --> 00:36:37,920 electrical engineers and stuff like that, they're gonna, you know, it's. 867 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,679 Speaker 2: Gonna take over that stuff, but they get replaced in 868 00:36:39,679 --> 00:36:40,639 a second. I know. 869 00:36:41,039 --> 00:36:43,599 Speaker 1: Scary because I don't live in that world, I. 870 00:36:43,559 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 2: Know, you know. Yeah, so to understand it's a little scary, 871 00:36:46,519 --> 00:36:48,920 it is. And then you think about the dark side 872 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,880 of it. And I'm not I don't get way into it, 873 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,159 but if you do think about it, how think about 874 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,199 Look remember the eighties, remember like how we grew up. 875 00:36:57,519 --> 00:36:59,679 Think about where we are right now with technology we 876 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,679 are it is the Jetsons. We're in a different we're 877 00:37:02,679 --> 00:37:07,199 in a different world altogether. And technology is screaming and 878 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,519 it's coming. It's almost like it's quadrupling every like two 879 00:37:10,559 --> 00:37:13,639 days now you know, it's like toast it is. Man. 880 00:37:13,679 --> 00:37:16,159 You hear about this AI and like how they how 881 00:37:16,199 --> 00:37:19,000 they start with this chess match and now they're like 882 00:37:19,599 --> 00:37:22,320 they're like in the they're in the stratosphere of like 883 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:27,159 strategies that would be like like humans can't compete almost immediately. 884 00:37:27,199 --> 00:37:30,800 You can't compete with these computers, you know, and they're adaptive. 885 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,480 So they take everything you know and everything the guy 886 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,960 you're you're like, who is your competitor knows and they 887 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,000 become one thing I know, you know it is. 888 00:37:43,039 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 1: And even like the college kids, they're not even writing 889 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:47,360 their own ship anymore. 890 00:37:47,639 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 2: No, they're just chat gp what it is. 891 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: I don't even use those wick in school. Okay, So 892 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,880 them now they're getting really strict on that. They want 893 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:56,920 to start scamming. 894 00:37:56,639 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 2: Right because everyone sounds so eloquent and well spoken and. 895 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,199 Speaker 1: Like you could put in there, you know, write me 896 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,880 this paper and make it sound like it's not AI. 897 00:38:05,199 --> 00:38:07,599 Speaker 2: No, yeah, make it sound like me, yes, like how 898 00:38:07,679 --> 00:38:09,960 I know, and it'll do it. Yeah. 899 00:38:10,119 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 1: So then what are the kids learning. 900 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing, man, nothing, they're learning how to 901 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,960 how to make that We're going to make them an 902 00:38:18,159 --> 00:38:22,039 that's true. It's true. It's true. Man, we're putting ourselves 903 00:38:22,039 --> 00:38:26,199 out of a damn job here, right, Yeah. 904 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:27,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, you probably do. 905 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,280 Speaker 2: I do every day. Yeah, yeah, And I mean it's smart. 906 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,159 It's good. It's smart stuff too, you know, like if 907 00:38:34,159 --> 00:38:37,119 you write something there's yeah, you're like, how. 908 00:38:37,039 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 1: Else would I articulate this? 909 00:38:38,639 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 2: And you're like, oh, that that sounds a little better. 910 00:38:41,039 --> 00:38:43,119 Speaker 1: I know, But I worry about the downside, I know. 911 00:38:43,159 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 2: I agree, Yeah, because you're not really exercising your own gifts. 912 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,559 You're using like the computers as a gift. So everyone's 913 00:38:50,599 --> 00:38:52,480 a savant in especially if you're. 914 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 1: Using it to do your real work that makes you learn, 915 00:38:56,159 --> 00:38:57,840 you know what I mean. If you're just using it 916 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,880 as an assistant, Oh it's great, Yeah, it's great. 917 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're right if it's a crutch, right, and 918 00:39:04,079 --> 00:39:05,920 you're supposed to be learning, so like they're. 919 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 1: Supposed to be learning, like like the college kids. 920 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost like a bit of a thief man 921 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:14,039 almost is stealing the experience from people and they don't 922 00:39:14,079 --> 00:39:17,280 even know it because it's the easiest possible way. 923 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 1: They get their degree. 924 00:39:18,039 --> 00:39:18,679 Speaker 2: Yeah. 925 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 1: I don't even know how. 926 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,599 Speaker 2: They don't even know how. They just asked chat GP 927 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:29,599 how they got their degree. It's true, man, it's crazy. Listen. 928 00:39:29,679 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 1: I don't live in that world. I know enough about it, 929 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,639 but it's just it's not in my world, you know. 930 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, But all right, speaking of your world, Vin, I 931 00:39:38,679 --> 00:39:41,000 appreciate you having me out here. Man, this was great. 932 00:39:41,039 --> 00:39:43,400 We're going to do this again. I like this idea 933 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,199 about doing it at the show, at this at the 934 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,440 Spike event. Yeah, yeah, I think it'd be really good. 935 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,320 So that'll be fun. Yeah, another high five. Man. We'll 936 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,440 wrap it up. And I really want to hear that 937 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,880 thing that Michael was talking about earlier with me and 938 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,039 you and are talking to each other thing. 939 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 1: I'd love to see that. I would love to see that. 940 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,960 There's nothing better than seeing yourself get made fun. I 941 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:05,599 love it. 942 00:40:08,119 --> 00:40:10,639 Speaker 2: All right then, So thanks again man. I appreciate you 943 00:40:10,679 --> 00:40:13,119 coming on, and I can't wait till the next time 944 00:40:13,159 --> 00:40:15,519 because I had a tremendous amount of fun. I really 945 00:40:15,519 --> 00:40:16,480 did my pleasure.