WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:47.079 O friend of Thissar. Hello, and welcome to the show. 2 00:00:47.359 --> 00:00:51.280 This is the Cult of Conspiracy and my name is Jonathan, 3 00:00:52.399 --> 00:00:57.640 and today we have CODEGA from Codega's Codex of Curiosities. 4 00:00:57.640 --> 00:00:58.479 That's a lot of seas. 5 00:00:59.119 --> 00:01:02.600 That what a fucking name for a pod though, Welcome 6 00:01:02.640 --> 00:01:06.400 to the Cult Conspiracy. I as soon as Jonathan told 7 00:01:06.400 --> 00:01:08.200 me who we had on the show, was like, all right, 8 00:01:08.519 --> 00:01:10.719 knowing nothing else, I love the name. 9 00:01:11.799 --> 00:01:12.239 WHOA. 10 00:01:12.400 --> 00:01:14.000 Wow, that was interesting. 11 00:01:14.400 --> 00:01:16.040 What was that? 12 00:01:16.040 --> 00:01:16.519 That was real? 13 00:01:16.760 --> 00:01:18.879 Was your Jesus moment right there, Jacob? 14 00:01:19.719 --> 00:01:21.120 That was my ascension? 15 00:01:21.680 --> 00:01:24.000 It's gone. The moment's already passed. 16 00:01:24.079 --> 00:01:27.359 Shit, well it's gone now when will then be now again? 17 00:01:27.640 --> 00:01:30.040 Soon soon? As Spaceballs taught us. 18 00:01:30.040 --> 00:01:33.480 But so that was for the listeners who are just listening. 19 00:01:33.560 --> 00:01:36.519 Jacob had this weird thing that just happened around him 20 00:01:36.519 --> 00:01:39.519 on zoom and it looked like he was blasting off 21 00:01:39.560 --> 00:01:42.519 into into the DMT realm or something. 22 00:01:43.000 --> 00:01:43.439 That was aw. 23 00:01:43.519 --> 00:01:49.239 That's what I'm saying, Jonathan, For anybody who is just listening, Wow, that. 24 00:01:49.200 --> 00:01:51.000 Was a little early preemptive, if you will. 25 00:01:51.400 --> 00:01:54.000 If anybody would like to see what just happened rather 26 00:01:54.040 --> 00:01:56.480 than hear it, Jonathan, tell where I can go because 27 00:01:56.519 --> 00:02:00.760 we know commercials suck. Okay, as you're listening to our program, 28 00:02:00.920 --> 00:02:02.359 you're gonna hear a lot of commercials. 29 00:02:02.439 --> 00:02:08.080 They suck. 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But look, enough about us. We have an 53 00:03:03.680 --> 00:03:04.599 awesome guest. 54 00:03:04.439 --> 00:03:06.960 Of the fireworks that just went off on me, but 55 00:03:07.159 --> 00:03:08.280 neither here nor there. 56 00:03:08.439 --> 00:03:10.080 Okay, that is not what we're here to talk about. 57 00:03:10.120 --> 00:03:11.400 We're here to talk about our guest. 58 00:03:12.080 --> 00:03:15.479 And uh, bro, I cannot tell you how excited I 59 00:03:15.520 --> 00:03:16.599 am to get into this one. 60 00:03:16.680 --> 00:03:20.639 Honestly fantastic. I'll step in. Hey, guys, it's right here. 61 00:03:20.759 --> 00:03:24.080 I'm a I'm the host of a you know, Kodagas 62 00:03:24.120 --> 00:03:27.199 Codex of Curiosities, which is a great alliteration and it 63 00:03:27.280 --> 00:03:29.800 kind of matches in with Cult of Conspiracy as well. 64 00:03:29.800 --> 00:03:32.879 Look at that, you know, seeing all those together be 65 00:03:32.919 --> 00:03:36.319 a motful cult of conspiracy Codegas Codex of Curiosities. There 66 00:03:36.319 --> 00:03:36.639 we go. 67 00:03:36.759 --> 00:03:38.039 Wow, I'm surprised you. 68 00:03:38.120 --> 00:03:38.439 I love it. 69 00:03:38.479 --> 00:03:40.479 I'm surprised you pulled that off on the first track. 70 00:03:40.599 --> 00:03:45.520 I am too to I I guess that's it for 71 00:03:45.639 --> 00:03:46.719 my luck for the rest of the night. 72 00:03:47.039 --> 00:03:49.159 Well, let's hear a little bit about you, like what, uh, 73 00:03:49.199 --> 00:03:51.879 what kind of topics do you generally like to cover. 74 00:03:52.039 --> 00:03:54.439 I saw that you kind of get into conspiracies, maybe 75 00:03:54.439 --> 00:03:55.879 some paranormal kind of stuff. 76 00:03:56.039 --> 00:03:58.280 Uh, what are a couple of examples of things that 77 00:03:58.319 --> 00:03:58.919 you've gone over. 78 00:03:59.560 --> 00:04:03.120 It's it's a little bit of everything, kind of like, yeah, conspiracies, 79 00:04:03.120 --> 00:04:08.560 ancient mysteries, histories that rhymed as well, fantastic. 80 00:04:08.840 --> 00:04:08.960 Uh. 81 00:04:13.199 --> 00:04:18.959 We got Atlantis, we got Nephelim, we got UFOs, abductions. Uh, 82 00:04:19.079 --> 00:04:23.920 sleep paralysis a just just a wide swath of everything, 83 00:04:23.920 --> 00:04:27.759 you know, glitches in the matrix. It's whatever is strange 84 00:04:27.879 --> 00:04:30.639 and bizarre. Yeah, I'm doing it. 85 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:33.639 Have you ever had a sleep paralysis before? Personally? 86 00:04:34.319 --> 00:04:34.639 Part of me? 87 00:04:34.759 --> 00:04:36.600 Sorry, have you ever had have you ever gone through 88 00:04:36.639 --> 00:04:37.839 sleep paralysis? Personally? 89 00:04:38.279 --> 00:04:42.279 Great question? So I you know, I've been talking with 90 00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:46.240 Vicky joy Anderson about this and uh, you know there 91 00:04:46.360 --> 00:04:51.439 I had probably my most you know, life changing event 92 00:04:52.000 --> 00:04:56.519 would have been sleep paralysis. And that was a great, 93 00:04:56.560 --> 00:04:58.680 great way to start start this off. You know, you're 94 00:04:58.759 --> 00:05:02.399 like pick this one and that is like the ultimate 95 00:05:02.439 --> 00:05:03.879 event that I've had in my life. 96 00:05:04.040 --> 00:05:05.000 Oh yeah. 97 00:05:05.040 --> 00:05:07.279 With that being said, let me ask you now you 98 00:05:07.360 --> 00:05:10.800 brought up Nephelim, and you have now brought up sleep paralysis. 99 00:05:10.879 --> 00:05:12.759 I'm just gonna be that asshole and throw. 100 00:05:12.639 --> 00:05:15.680 Out the word demon after that, right, sleep paralysis demon? 101 00:05:16.079 --> 00:05:18.920 Real quick? What is your uh? 102 00:05:18.959 --> 00:05:23.199 If you were to classify a religious affiliation, what would 103 00:05:23.279 --> 00:05:23.759 you call it? 104 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:24.079 Right? 105 00:05:24.120 --> 00:05:27.560 Because as we get into these esoteric things, lines get 106 00:05:27.639 --> 00:05:28.680 drawn very quickly. 107 00:05:28.800 --> 00:05:31.199 So where are you at on the grand scheme of shit? 108 00:05:31.720 --> 00:05:34.959 Well, I'm not attending no church. But in fact, you know, 109 00:05:35.160 --> 00:05:39.920 I grew up Catholic, like hardcore Catholic. Did you get confirmed? 110 00:05:40.360 --> 00:05:43.240 Oh yeah, oh yeah, Oh you're a confirmed Catholic. I 111 00:05:43.319 --> 00:05:46.040 went through everything like like I was actually participating in 112 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:49.879 the church. I was nothing bad happened like that with 113 00:05:49.879 --> 00:05:54.360 with the priest, but I was no I was an 114 00:05:54.360 --> 00:05:56.399 aultar boy though I was an ultar boy. So I 115 00:05:56.639 --> 00:06:00.240 was in with uh, with the church. And and then 116 00:06:00.240 --> 00:06:01.839 I think it kind of goes with a lot of 117 00:06:01.839 --> 00:06:05.079 people where you have a fault not necessarily falling up, 118 00:06:05.079 --> 00:06:07.199 but you start asking these well not a lot of people, 119 00:06:07.240 --> 00:06:09.279 but you start asking these questions and there's no answers. 120 00:06:09.480 --> 00:06:11.959 They don't a lot of people don't want to get 121 00:06:12.000 --> 00:06:14.000 into that because they just want to stay in the 122 00:06:14.079 --> 00:06:16.959 light and love and oh praise Jesus. And I hate 123 00:06:17.000 --> 00:06:19.319 nothing wrong with that, but that wasn't me. I'm like, 124 00:06:19.439 --> 00:06:22.279 I want to know more, and so I started asking questions. 125 00:06:22.279 --> 00:06:25.079 I started reading books, and by doing that, though, I 126 00:06:25.160 --> 00:06:28.600 moved away from organized religion and then ended up going 127 00:06:28.680 --> 00:06:34.399 into more of a spirituality New Age. And then it 128 00:06:34.439 --> 00:06:38.360 came full circle, you know, with going in the New Age, 129 00:06:38.480 --> 00:06:41.160 I realized that it's almost the same thing. It's all 130 00:06:41.199 --> 00:06:43.240 this light and love and we're not going to look 131 00:06:43.279 --> 00:06:46.120 at the darkness or anything like that, where I'm like, 132 00:06:46.519 --> 00:06:48.399 I want to see what's in the darkness. I want 133 00:06:48.439 --> 00:06:50.839 to see what I'm up against, Like, what the hell 134 00:06:50.879 --> 00:06:51.319 is this shit? 135 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:52.319 I'm with you. 136 00:06:52.720 --> 00:06:57.040 So you coming from a Catholic background, which is from 137 00:06:57.079 --> 00:06:59.639 the outside looking in. For the record, I was raised 138 00:06:59.639 --> 00:07:01.920 Catholic until I was about fourteen years old. I'm from 139 00:07:01.959 --> 00:07:06.199 Louisiana and most people here are just generally raised Catholic, right, 140 00:07:06.240 --> 00:07:08.399 So I'm with you. I went to Catechism the whole nine. 141 00:07:09.399 --> 00:07:12.439 You going in it in the way that you have 142 00:07:12.800 --> 00:07:16.680 now you have turned from your Catholicism, But would you 143 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:18.439 consider yourself. 144 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:20.199 A follower of the ways of Christ? 145 00:07:20.439 --> 00:07:25.079 Do you believe more that Christ was a divine master 146 00:07:25.399 --> 00:07:27.920 and that there's multiple ways to achieve that enlightenment. 147 00:07:27.959 --> 00:07:30.319 Where are you at grand scheme of shit currently? 148 00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:32.680 So currently, I would say I'm coming back to the 149 00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:33.920 Christian side of things. 150 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:34.519 Okay. 151 00:07:34.720 --> 00:07:37.000 You know, I do believe, you know, like Jesus was 152 00:07:37.199 --> 00:07:40.560 the son of God, he was this an ascended master 153 00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:42.199 of sorts, you know, and I do believe that we 154 00:07:42.319 --> 00:07:46.040 can't all reach that level, not necessarily his level, but 155 00:07:46.079 --> 00:07:48.680 he did say, you know, you will be able to 156 00:07:48.720 --> 00:07:52.439 do what I do, you know, and everybody more yes, 157 00:07:52.600 --> 00:07:55.040 and everybody's like, oh my god. So like you know, 158 00:07:55.160 --> 00:07:58.160 I've I've gone down a lot of paths. I've gone, 159 00:07:58.279 --> 00:08:00.240 I've tried a lot of different things, you know, and 160 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:03.680 it's like, so I've done you know, I'm a raiki master. 161 00:08:03.959 --> 00:08:06.360 And people are like, oh, that's the devil's work. I'm like, 162 00:08:06.759 --> 00:08:08.800 that's laying on of hands like this. 163 00:08:08.920 --> 00:08:11.000 Come on, I'm glad you brought that up. 164 00:08:11.040 --> 00:08:13.759 Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. 165 00:08:13.800 --> 00:08:15.519 So for all of our Christian listeners, he. 166 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:16.800 Could you say okay one more time? 167 00:08:16.839 --> 00:08:20.199 I'm just curious, What's I was just curious if you 168 00:08:20.199 --> 00:08:21.879 could say okay one more time, just to make sure 169 00:08:21.920 --> 00:08:24.199 that we were okay, fucking okay, all right, yeah, I 170 00:08:24.199 --> 00:08:26.439 just want to make sure. So you at the reiki 171 00:08:26.879 --> 00:08:29.680 and with the laying of holy hands, as the Bible 172 00:08:29.720 --> 00:08:32.440 does tell us to do. Do you see there to 173 00:08:32.480 --> 00:08:34.480 be a line in the sand drawn between the two? 174 00:08:34.639 --> 00:08:38.960 Do you see this as a'll alley oop if you will, 175 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:42.720 of one versus the other, or one attributing to the other. 176 00:08:42.919 --> 00:08:44.000 Where are you at with reiki? 177 00:08:44.039 --> 00:08:47.279 Because I'm gonna be honest, Depending on the source that 178 00:08:47.320 --> 00:08:51.039 you're talking to, it can sound like, okay, maybe there's 179 00:08:51.039 --> 00:08:54.440 something to it, or okay, you're clearly out of your mind, 180 00:08:54.879 --> 00:08:57.120 like there's a hard line there. 181 00:08:57.559 --> 00:08:59.759 Well, I think it's just semantics, you know. I think 182 00:08:59.799 --> 00:09:02.759 it's the same thing you know, like then, and perhaps 183 00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:05.679 you know you're getting taught from it's saying that it's 184 00:09:05.679 --> 00:09:10.200 coming from a Japanese descendant, you know, And but but reality, 185 00:09:10.279 --> 00:09:12.679 where did he learn it from? Why? Why have we 186 00:09:12.720 --> 00:09:15.159 turned away from listening to profits? Why have we gone 187 00:09:15.200 --> 00:09:18.039 to this this being of like you know, in the 188 00:09:18.080 --> 00:09:19.799 Old Testament, you know, even in the New Testament, we 189 00:09:19.840 --> 00:09:22.240 had profits and people listen to them. But now you 190 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:24.960 preach anything where you learn something, it's a devil's work. 191 00:09:24.960 --> 00:09:26.879 It's a devil's work. And hey, don't get me wrong, 192 00:09:26.960 --> 00:09:28.799 I'm sure there's a lot of that out there, but 193 00:09:28.879 --> 00:09:30.919 why can't there be any good note there? You know, 194 00:09:30.960 --> 00:09:34.320 like this is this is something that we're doing that 195 00:09:34.480 --> 00:09:36.919 is good. You know, we're healing things. And I actually 196 00:09:37.000 --> 00:09:39.399 had an instant like it's not that I'm really a 197 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:43.320 practitioner of it. I learned it. I took got my master's. 198 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:47.080 You know, I taught a couple of people, but I 199 00:09:47.159 --> 00:09:50.759 never pursued it much further than that. And but I 200 00:09:50.840 --> 00:09:55.200 did have one incident where my my friend's dog was 201 00:09:55.279 --> 00:09:58.000 going to had some major health issues and who's gonna 202 00:09:58.000 --> 00:10:02.960 be put down? And I decided to I'm like, my 203 00:10:03.000 --> 00:10:04.919 friend doesn't believe in any of this. He's like, that's 204 00:10:04.919 --> 00:10:07.840 all hokey, you know, But I'm like, hey, I'm just 205 00:10:07.879 --> 00:10:10.639 going to give the dog reiki on my own time. 206 00:10:10.759 --> 00:10:13.519 And you know, my friend's outside drinking and I'm inside 207 00:10:13.519 --> 00:10:16.360 with his son with the dog, and his son asked like, hey, 208 00:10:16.360 --> 00:10:18.080 what do you do it? And I'm like, well, I'm 209 00:10:18.159 --> 00:10:19.639 just doing some and I kind of say it, you know, 210 00:10:19.720 --> 00:10:21.480 laying on his hands. You know, I'm doing some reiki 211 00:10:21.559 --> 00:10:24.320 kind of stuff. He's like, oh, okay, well the dog 212 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:28.200 made this miraculous recovery. And I'm talking like within a day. 213 00:10:28.759 --> 00:10:30.600 And my friend called me and he's like, and he 214 00:10:30.639 --> 00:10:32.320 didn't know I did this, And I never told him 215 00:10:32.360 --> 00:10:34.440 to the staff, never told him. But he's like, oh, 216 00:10:34.440 --> 00:10:35.679 I don't know what's going with my dog. He's so 217 00:10:35.759 --> 00:10:37.519 much better. I don't have to worry about doing anything. 218 00:10:37.919 --> 00:10:38.559 And that was it. 219 00:10:39.720 --> 00:10:41.080 That's a beautiful thing, man. 220 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:43.879 I mean, look, I think that there is something really 221 00:10:44.000 --> 00:10:47.879 interesting about reiki. I think that some people can definitely 222 00:10:47.960 --> 00:10:50.480 make it a little bit more than what it is. 223 00:10:50.840 --> 00:10:54.080 Like they'll say that we're calling on the archangel Metatron 224 00:10:54.360 --> 00:10:59.039 and you know, using some kind of weird crystal along 225 00:10:59.080 --> 00:11:00.679 with it. Not that there's anything wrong with it, like 226 00:11:00.759 --> 00:11:03.480 you said, I mean, it's I think that it's all 227 00:11:03.480 --> 00:11:05.519 the same thing, just in different flavors kind of thing. 228 00:11:06.679 --> 00:11:08.840 And but no, I find what. 229 00:11:08.840 --> 00:11:12.399 You're talking about pretty interesting as far as you know, 230 00:11:13.080 --> 00:11:17.639 how you kind of came back to Christianity after all 231 00:11:17.720 --> 00:11:20.600 the stuff that you've learned, and you know, you mentioned 232 00:11:20.600 --> 00:11:24.960 something about how Jesus might be an ascended master of sorts. Well, 233 00:11:26.039 --> 00:11:28.279 I don't know about that now, all right, So just 234 00:11:28.320 --> 00:11:31.000 to lay it out, Jacob is the resident Christian. I'm 235 00:11:31.039 --> 00:11:35.000 the residant non Christian. I don't have anything against people 236 00:11:35.080 --> 00:11:37.960 who practice that. It is, you know, your your right 237 00:11:38.039 --> 00:11:40.080 to kind of seek your own truth and kind of 238 00:11:40.120 --> 00:11:43.759 and stuff like that. But you know, you said that 239 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:46.799 he was kind of like a ascended master. But I mean, 240 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:51.279 wouldn't God be the ultimate ascended master? Though at that point, well. 241 00:11:51.120 --> 00:11:54.720 Couldn't we all be the same in in in the 242 00:11:54.879 --> 00:11:58.879 same theory, Like in my belief we are all part 243 00:11:58.919 --> 00:12:01.480 of God. We're all these pieces of God. Throw it 244 00:12:01.480 --> 00:12:03.279 out there, okay. So let's say you just have this 245 00:12:03.399 --> 00:12:06.639 huge mirror and you break it. It shatters, okay, and 246 00:12:07.399 --> 00:12:10.039 it wants to regain its form. But to do that 247 00:12:10.120 --> 00:12:12.840 it has to know everything it knew before. So it 248 00:12:12.919 --> 00:12:15.320 forgot what it was and it sends it all out, 249 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:20.000 and every little piece is trying to experience everything so 250 00:12:20.039 --> 00:12:22.480 we know how it is so we can become one 251 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:27.279 in whole again. Now that now, these ascent and I 252 00:12:27.279 --> 00:12:29.159 don't like us in that phrase in all honestly, I 253 00:12:29.240 --> 00:12:31.919 sended masters. I think that's like tied in with that 254 00:12:32.000 --> 00:12:37.000 new age. And hey, I was part of it. Yes, yes, 255 00:12:37.159 --> 00:12:39.240 I agree, And I was part of the New Age 256 00:12:39.639 --> 00:12:42.919 group and everything, and I think it's a good step. 257 00:12:43.240 --> 00:12:45.799 But a lot of people get stuck in this quagmire 258 00:12:45.840 --> 00:12:48.840 of New Age and they just they think it's it's 259 00:12:48.879 --> 00:12:51.519 everything and and and I've left people behind. And I'm 260 00:12:51.559 --> 00:12:52.759 not saying that. I'm like, oh, I'm not gonna be 261 00:12:52.799 --> 00:12:54.679 your friendnymore. No, I still am. But they're just they're 262 00:12:54.720 --> 00:12:58.519 all stuck in this, in this thing. But back to that, 263 00:12:58.639 --> 00:13:04.480 I think we're all all one being experiencing everything, trying 264 00:13:04.519 --> 00:13:07.519 to get all these experiences in and so you in 265 00:13:07.559 --> 00:13:10.000 many different lifetimes, you're going to experience everything. I don't 266 00:13:10.000 --> 00:13:12.440 believe we're living one lifetime and that's it. We go 267 00:13:12.480 --> 00:13:14.360 up to heaven, we're done. I think we need to 268 00:13:14.440 --> 00:13:16.600 keep experiencing things over and over and over again until 269 00:13:16.600 --> 00:13:19.320 we get everything right and we experiencing everything. So not 270 00:13:19.360 --> 00:13:21.840 only are we the sinner, we're the saint as well. 271 00:13:22.360 --> 00:13:25.960 Can ask you why why you believe that? And this 272 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:29.600 is not me trying to say you're wrong. I'm no 273 00:13:29.759 --> 00:13:32.159 dog in this fight as far as that vanish point 274 00:13:32.200 --> 00:13:36.200 is concerned. But I've heard many people say, from many 275 00:13:36.320 --> 00:13:39.720 different vanished points some Christians some not to say that 276 00:13:40.080 --> 00:13:43.360 we are God living all the lives all at once, 277 00:13:43.440 --> 00:13:47.000 because it's only after we live every existence on earth 278 00:13:47.039 --> 00:13:53.519 that we can achieve the intellect, the knowledge, the perspective 279 00:13:54.159 --> 00:13:57.200 to be God in some way, shape or form. 280 00:13:57.240 --> 00:13:57.840 Fine. Cool. 281 00:13:58.919 --> 00:14:02.960 What has led you to believe that yourself, especially as 282 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:05.440 you now say that you are more on the Christian 283 00:14:05.600 --> 00:14:08.399 side of things? Why do you also? 284 00:14:09.080 --> 00:14:09.519 Uh? 285 00:14:09.799 --> 00:14:13.919 Unanimously or I will say unanimously you believe both to 286 00:14:13.919 --> 00:14:14.960 be true at the same time. 287 00:14:15.679 --> 00:14:16.039 Why? 288 00:14:17.039 --> 00:14:19.960 Great? Uh, that's a great question. And and I would 289 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:21.799 say it's from one of the books that actually got 290 00:14:21.840 --> 00:14:25.120 me away from you know, the Catholic religion, which was 291 00:14:25.159 --> 00:14:28.679 Conversations with God. H Reading that those series Neil Donald 292 00:14:28.679 --> 00:14:31.559 Walsh was kind of an eye opener as well, and 293 00:14:31.600 --> 00:14:34.440 it really was enlightening for me. And and I hate 294 00:14:34.480 --> 00:14:36.320 that word too, enlightening that that's such. 295 00:14:36.159 --> 00:14:39.120 A real for any cult member that may not know 296 00:14:39.519 --> 00:14:42.360 those books or what they are about. Give a quick 297 00:14:42.720 --> 00:14:45.200 spark notes if you will, of what those books are 298 00:14:45.240 --> 00:14:46.000 and what that's about. 299 00:14:46.679 --> 00:14:50.360 Yeah, And it's it's a very interesting. It's kind of 300 00:14:50.399 --> 00:14:54.159 like asking a question and getting a response and writing 301 00:14:54.159 --> 00:14:56.960 it all down now can this by Can this guy 302 00:14:57.039 --> 00:14:59.759 be you know, misdirected? Could he be a schitzo? Could 303 00:14:59.759 --> 00:15:01.679 he be Yeah, it could be anything. But again, like 304 00:15:01.720 --> 00:15:05.000 I said, we in the past we had profits. And 305 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:07.679 now if someone no one claims to be a prophet, 306 00:15:07.799 --> 00:15:11.159 now if they do a lot of times they're well, 307 00:15:11.240 --> 00:15:11.840 we won't go there. 308 00:15:11.879 --> 00:15:14.240 But I would say they have some that claim to be. 309 00:15:14.440 --> 00:15:18.320 But I think we can pretty quickly determine where's their 310 00:15:18.399 --> 00:15:20.639 money going. And it's like, oh, there it is. There 311 00:15:20.720 --> 00:15:21.440 is their motive. 312 00:15:21.559 --> 00:15:25.639 It's crazy exactly exactly. Money is usually always always involved. 313 00:15:25.679 --> 00:15:29.360 And so with this though, I just believe that if 314 00:15:29.399 --> 00:15:33.440 you let's take it back to the one into the whole, 315 00:15:34.000 --> 00:15:38.759 if you know absolutely everything, you've experienced absolutely everything, maybe 316 00:15:38.799 --> 00:15:40.840 perhaps everything is just kind of a bore and you 317 00:15:40.960 --> 00:15:44.159 don't like even though even though you know everything, have 318 00:15:44.240 --> 00:15:48.360 you really truly experienced everything to know everything? Maybe not? 319 00:15:48.519 --> 00:15:50.120 Maybe you got to maybe you want to do it 320 00:15:50.159 --> 00:15:53.320 over again. Maybe it's just like, hey, I played that 321 00:15:53.399 --> 00:15:57.240 game and I beat it, and now what, well, let's 322 00:15:57.240 --> 00:16:00.279 play it again, you know, let's let's let's start aren't 323 00:16:00.279 --> 00:16:02.159 fresh and try it again. Maybe I can, maybe I 324 00:16:02.200 --> 00:16:04.240 can find something new. Maybe I can lock a new achievement. 325 00:16:04.279 --> 00:16:07.759 Maybe I could, you know, discover something else. That is 326 00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:11.320 where I'm going with this. It's you know, it's and again, 327 00:16:11.360 --> 00:16:14.399 we're all given. The bottom line is we're all given 328 00:16:14.399 --> 00:16:17.200 the free free will. You know, we are able to 329 00:16:17.240 --> 00:16:19.480 make those choices of what we want to do and 330 00:16:19.519 --> 00:16:22.600 where we want to go. And that's the thing, you know, 331 00:16:22.639 --> 00:16:26.639 and a lot of people claim that, you know, it's like, well, 332 00:16:27.879 --> 00:16:29.480 let's let's go back to Jesus here where it's kind 333 00:16:29.519 --> 00:16:31.759 of like, oh, Jesus, could you know, why did Jesus 334 00:16:31.759 --> 00:16:34.799 heal one leper and not remove all the disease? And 335 00:16:34.840 --> 00:16:37.480 this kind of goes back to the theory of the 336 00:16:37.480 --> 00:16:41.759 prison planet where people believe Jesus is actually Satan, the 337 00:16:41.840 --> 00:16:46.080 devil Lucifer all in one enki. But they're like, why 338 00:16:46.120 --> 00:16:48.200 why did he heal one and not remove all the things? 339 00:16:48.559 --> 00:16:51.159 Because it's about our free will. You know, if I 340 00:16:51.200 --> 00:16:53.159 come forward and say I want to be healed by you, 341 00:16:53.440 --> 00:16:55.399 then I can be healed, but I truly have to 342 00:16:55.799 --> 00:16:56.279 want it. 343 00:16:56.879 --> 00:16:57.879 You have to choose it. 344 00:16:58.360 --> 00:17:01.559 Yes, Okay, So you are of the belief that free 345 00:17:01.600 --> 00:17:02.519 will is at. 346 00:17:02.399 --> 00:17:04.079 Play, yes, always? 347 00:17:04.799 --> 00:17:08.319 Do you believe in destiny do you believe in stars 348 00:17:08.400 --> 00:17:11.559 aligning and things that are beyond our control just happening 349 00:17:11.640 --> 00:17:13.680 at the same time, Because you're gonna be honest, right, 350 00:17:13.839 --> 00:17:17.920 So I'm a Christian, Yeah, not a good representation of one. 351 00:17:17.960 --> 00:17:20.599 I've been very open about that since day one. Fine, fine, 352 00:17:20.640 --> 00:17:21.319 fuck the world. 353 00:17:21.400 --> 00:17:21.680 Cool. 354 00:17:22.039 --> 00:17:26.319 So that being said, right, I at least acknowledge that 355 00:17:27.400 --> 00:17:31.359 some things just be like that, Some things really are 356 00:17:31.400 --> 00:17:35.000 out of our control. When you like meet your person, 357 00:17:35.680 --> 00:17:39.480 or or if you're in the room when the birth 358 00:17:39.519 --> 00:17:42.160 of a child happens and you you feel the earth 359 00:17:42.319 --> 00:17:46.680 stop rotating, you feel that shift, right, and that's that's 360 00:17:46.680 --> 00:17:51.839 something that's unquantifiable but is real. There's no way of 361 00:17:51.920 --> 00:17:54.000 telling me that's not real life, you know what I mean? So, 362 00:17:54.119 --> 00:18:00.240 like free will, I believe it, But I also believe 363 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:03.839 that destiny and fate and things that we can't control 364 00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:07.359 forced upon us are at work at the same time. 365 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:10.119 I believe that it kind of has to be that 366 00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:13.279 way in order to have harmonic balance, in order to 367 00:18:13.359 --> 00:18:14.559 make existence work. 368 00:18:14.960 --> 00:18:15.680 But that's just me. 369 00:18:16.400 --> 00:18:18.880 You have said free will a few times, So where 370 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:19.960 are you at As far as. 371 00:18:20.160 --> 00:18:24.160 I am one that there is destiny? Okay, destiny is 372 00:18:24.160 --> 00:18:27.200 going to take us to these crossroads now, into these 373 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:30.599 chance meetings, into these events. But it's what we do 374 00:18:30.680 --> 00:18:33.839 at that point that we have that free will. So 375 00:18:34.359 --> 00:18:37.240 I can meet I can meet the woman of my dreams. 376 00:18:37.519 --> 00:18:39.240 But do I ask her out a date? Or do 377 00:18:39.319 --> 00:18:39.960 I walk away? 378 00:18:40.480 --> 00:18:42.160 Come on? Yes? 379 00:18:43.279 --> 00:18:46.839 Now, So I would love to hear about your your 380 00:18:47.559 --> 00:18:50.039 what is it called the where you're stuck in bed 381 00:18:50.119 --> 00:18:51.880 and you can't move sleep paralysis? 382 00:18:51.920 --> 00:18:53.519 So paralysis that always escapes me. 383 00:18:54.160 --> 00:18:57.559 Yeah, yeah, no, no problem, no problem. So okay, let's 384 00:18:57.559 --> 00:19:00.759 go to that. So this this is still while I'm 385 00:19:00.920 --> 00:19:05.359 I'm Catholic and everything I was about and the actual 386 00:19:05.440 --> 00:19:08.359 age escapes me because I never wrote it down. You know, 387 00:19:08.400 --> 00:19:10.799 I never made this Like now, I keep a journal 388 00:19:10.839 --> 00:19:13.359 shit that happens, but at that time I didn't. So 389 00:19:13.480 --> 00:19:16.160 I was I believe I was seventeen years old when 390 00:19:16.160 --> 00:19:21.680 this happened, seventeen or eighteen, and I had I was 391 00:19:21.720 --> 00:19:24.200 out with some friends, wasn't drinking or doing anything where 392 00:19:24.480 --> 00:19:26.920 we rented a video game consoles at that age where 393 00:19:26.920 --> 00:19:29.079 you can still rent video game consoles, and you know, 394 00:19:29.240 --> 00:19:31.039 one of our friends rented it. So we played video 395 00:19:31.039 --> 00:19:32.839 games all night because none of us owned. 396 00:19:32.680 --> 00:19:34.720 Them so back in the Blockbuster days. 397 00:19:34.799 --> 00:19:37.480 I remember it fondly, sir exactly had the like the 398 00:19:37.519 --> 00:19:40.920 plastic briefcases and you know, open them up and take 399 00:19:40.960 --> 00:19:43.960 out your your game. Yeah you're I think it was 400 00:19:44.000 --> 00:19:46.279 like a PlayStation. I'm not sure what it was, but yeah, 401 00:19:46.319 --> 00:19:49.359 so that that is what we did. And my friends 402 00:19:49.440 --> 00:19:52.880 drove me home and I remember I originally from Canada's 403 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:55.799 and I came home and the not that it's a 404 00:19:56.160 --> 00:19:57.680 not that this could have any part in it, but 405 00:19:57.720 --> 00:20:00.559 it was something memorable was the northern lights were oute, 406 00:20:00.640 --> 00:20:03.359 like the Aurora borealis was out in full force. And 407 00:20:03.440 --> 00:20:05.440 I remember standing outside for like, you know, five ten 408 00:20:05.480 --> 00:20:07.880 minutes after my friends had left, just watching. I lived 409 00:20:07.880 --> 00:20:10.799 out on an acre. It's a small farm, and I 410 00:20:10.839 --> 00:20:12.200 was like, ah, this is this is awesome. But I 411 00:20:12.240 --> 00:20:14.319 have to work early in the morning, so I better 412 00:20:14.359 --> 00:20:17.519 get to bed because it's getting late. And I do 413 00:20:17.720 --> 00:20:20.519 as you normally do when you can't fall asleep, and 414 00:20:20.519 --> 00:20:22.960 so I laid in bed and I'm like watching the clock. 415 00:20:23.000 --> 00:20:24.920 I'm like, well, if I fall asleep, now I got 416 00:20:24.920 --> 00:20:28.160 seven hours and forty three minutes of sleep, you know. 417 00:20:28.240 --> 00:20:30.160 And then if I fall asleep, now I got seven minutes, 418 00:20:30.279 --> 00:20:32.559 I mean seven minutes, seven hours and fifteen minutes. So 419 00:20:32.640 --> 00:20:37.799 I was sitting there watching the clock and something, and 420 00:20:38.039 --> 00:20:40.039 my blinds are closed, so it's pretty dark, immem but 421 00:20:40.119 --> 00:20:44.240 something just It's not like someone said, hey, do this. 422 00:20:44.839 --> 00:20:48.119 It was just like this urge, like you need to 423 00:20:48.160 --> 00:20:51.039 look up, and so I kind of roll onto my 424 00:20:51.119 --> 00:20:55.279 back and I stare up and floating above me, about 425 00:20:55.319 --> 00:20:57.880 three and a half feet four feet above me is 426 00:20:58.200 --> 00:21:02.599 this blacker than black figure. And I can clearly see 427 00:21:02.640 --> 00:21:04.200 the head because like, don't get me wrong, it's dark 428 00:21:04.240 --> 00:21:06.880 in the room, but this is like black, and I 429 00:21:06.880 --> 00:21:09.759 can see the head, I can see the shoulders, I 430 00:21:09.759 --> 00:21:13.519 see the body and the torso and around the torso. 431 00:21:13.680 --> 00:21:16.960 Actually it faded off into like the smoky vapor, and 432 00:21:17.000 --> 00:21:20.680 the smoky was actually like a white, like Hollywood s 433 00:21:20.759 --> 00:21:25.640 type ghost vapor kind of thing. And I'm terrified staring 434 00:21:25.680 --> 00:21:28.400 at this thing. But that wasn't the most terrifying thing. 435 00:21:28.440 --> 00:21:31.799 The most terrifying thing was was the eyes. The eyes 436 00:21:31.839 --> 00:21:36.319 were glowing red. They were like an incandescent red. You 437 00:21:36.359 --> 00:21:38.960 know when other people talk about cryptids and they say, oh, 438 00:21:39.000 --> 00:21:40.880 the eyes were red. They it's not like they're shooting 439 00:21:41.000 --> 00:21:43.960 light beams out, but they're glowing red. This was the 440 00:21:44.000 --> 00:21:49.039 eyes of this shadow creature being thing that was floating 441 00:21:49.079 --> 00:21:53.079 above me. It was, and it was there for maybe 442 00:21:54.359 --> 00:21:58.359 I would say, maybe three to five seconds, I don't 443 00:21:58.440 --> 00:22:00.759 know how long, and I couldn't move. So this is 444 00:22:00.759 --> 00:22:03.279 where that possible sleep prolysis comes into effect, because some 445 00:22:03.319 --> 00:22:06.799 people are like, well, were you you were sleeping. I'm like, oh, 446 00:22:06.920 --> 00:22:09.559 I don't think I was sleeping, but I was at 447 00:22:09.559 --> 00:22:12.279 the point where I couldn't move. And was it that 448 00:22:12.319 --> 00:22:15.039 I was scared? You know, you got the the freeze 449 00:22:15.079 --> 00:22:19.279 flight or flight kind of things, you know, So it 450 00:22:19.319 --> 00:22:21.799 was I was I there was I at that point 451 00:22:21.839 --> 00:22:25.000 where I just couldn't move and I was terrified. And 452 00:22:25.000 --> 00:22:27.079 that's what I've gone to was I was just terrified 453 00:22:27.079 --> 00:22:29.039 I couldn't move, But it could have been some sort 454 00:22:29.079 --> 00:22:33.720 of sleep prolysis as well. And this thing disappeared after 455 00:22:33.720 --> 00:22:36.799 three to five seconds. And at that point then I 456 00:22:36.920 --> 00:22:40.400 just laid there in bed without moving I don't know 457 00:22:40.440 --> 00:22:42.039 for how long. The next thing I know is waking 458 00:22:42.119 --> 00:22:42.720 up in the morning. 459 00:22:44.039 --> 00:22:45.920 Okay, all right. 460 00:22:46.000 --> 00:22:50.920 I have looked into numerous amounts of this sleep paralysis, 461 00:22:50.960 --> 00:22:56.559 and some people have just absolutely horrific, nightmarish experiences. But 462 00:22:56.599 --> 00:22:59.279 then you hear other people who are kind of sick 463 00:22:59.319 --> 00:23:01.440 with it, and they're like they hope that they can 464 00:23:01.759 --> 00:23:05.200 get a little sleep paralysis. And I'm one of those people, like, 465 00:23:05.319 --> 00:23:07.759 I love a good nightmare. I love some good sleep 466 00:23:07.799 --> 00:23:14.680 paralysis because well, the reason is the reason is is 467 00:23:14.680 --> 00:23:19.480 because there was there's like this this study that these 468 00:23:19.480 --> 00:23:23.359 people were working on, and by sleep paralysis, they say 469 00:23:23.400 --> 00:23:25.519 that that's actually the best way to be able to 470 00:23:26.119 --> 00:23:29.839 basically jump up out of your body and meander around 471 00:23:29.960 --> 00:23:30.480 your house. 472 00:23:30.759 --> 00:23:33.759 Right, And so I was like, you know what, let 473 00:23:33.799 --> 00:23:34.319 me try that. 474 00:23:34.880 --> 00:23:37.599 And I said, you know what, the next time I 475 00:23:37.640 --> 00:23:41.279 get sleep paralysis. It doesn't happen often, maybe once a year, right, 476 00:23:41.359 --> 00:23:42.920 but I was like, I always kept it in the 477 00:23:42.920 --> 00:23:45.319 back of my mind if I ever get sleep you know, 478 00:23:45.640 --> 00:23:48.720 sleep paralysis, then I'm going to try and hopefully I 479 00:23:48.720 --> 00:23:52.519 can remember this. And one night I got sleep paralysis. 480 00:23:52.519 --> 00:23:54.720 I woke up in the middle of the night. I 481 00:23:54.720 --> 00:23:58.079 I'm not even one hundred percent sure it was sleep paralysis, 482 00:23:58.119 --> 00:24:00.359 but I played it on my brain as if it was. 483 00:24:00.599 --> 00:24:02.599 So I just acted like, you know, how as soon 484 00:24:02.599 --> 00:24:04.960 as you wake up, if you don't move your body 485 00:24:05.039 --> 00:24:07.559 kind of feels like that TV static a little bit 486 00:24:07.640 --> 00:24:11.640 like and it's like and that could emulate like the 487 00:24:11.880 --> 00:24:15.880 sleep paralysis kind of feeling. And so so what I 488 00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:19.200 did I it was like one night and I was 489 00:24:19.279 --> 00:24:21.119 laying in bed. I was laying in bed by myself, 490 00:24:21.519 --> 00:24:25.519 and every night before I go to bed, I shut 491 00:24:25.559 --> 00:24:26.680 my bedroom door. 492 00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:29.200 It's just a habit. I just always shut my bedroom door. 493 00:24:30.240 --> 00:24:32.240 Nobody was there with me at the time, outside of 494 00:24:32.240 --> 00:24:34.440 my dog and he always sleeps in bed with me. 495 00:24:34.559 --> 00:24:37.319 Whatever. So one night I get this sleep prolysis. 496 00:24:37.400 --> 00:24:39.160 I wake up, I don't move, and I'm like, oh, 497 00:24:39.200 --> 00:24:41.240 this is the time I can finally try and like 498 00:24:41.400 --> 00:24:43.119 astra project Let me try and get up out of 499 00:24:43.119 --> 00:24:45.519 this body and see if this is actually a real thing. 500 00:24:45.720 --> 00:24:49.240 Because I tried ast projection through meditation and stuff like 501 00:24:49.240 --> 00:24:52.359 that before, but it always felt like it I wasn't 502 00:24:52.400 --> 00:24:55.240 doing it, you know, like it not to the extent 503 00:24:55.279 --> 00:24:57.920 that other people have talked about. And so this time 504 00:24:58.079 --> 00:25:00.000 I felt like I got this sleep prolyssis. I was like, 505 00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:02.200 all right, let me try it. And so dude, I 506 00:25:02.279 --> 00:25:05.799 get up out of my body and I go out 507 00:25:06.039 --> 00:25:09.119 of my bedroom door. At like I remember it. I 508 00:25:09.160 --> 00:25:11.759 remember it like like it was yesterday. I open up 509 00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:14.400 my bedroom door. I don't know with what. I just 510 00:25:14.559 --> 00:25:16.720 assumed that I had my body, but I never really 511 00:25:16.799 --> 00:25:19.440 even checked to see if I did kind of thing. 512 00:25:20.839 --> 00:25:24.279 And I went out into my living room and I'm 513 00:25:24.279 --> 00:25:25.799 looking out of my living room and I noticed that 514 00:25:25.839 --> 00:25:28.000 my TV is on in my living room. I'm like, 515 00:25:28.359 --> 00:25:30.559 I never sleep, like I never go to sleep with 516 00:25:30.599 --> 00:25:33.000 my TV on, Like I'm not one of those people. 517 00:25:33.200 --> 00:25:35.640 Like I was raised my dad. He would never have you. 518 00:25:35.920 --> 00:25:37.640 He would never let you have like more than one 519 00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:39.759 light on in a bedroom, let alone a TV and 520 00:25:39.799 --> 00:25:40.039 a light. 521 00:25:41.240 --> 00:25:43.000 So I always think to turn it off. 522 00:25:43.200 --> 00:25:45.039 So I go out there and I was like, how 523 00:25:45.079 --> 00:25:49.279 can I prove to myself that I'm actually ast projecting 524 00:25:49.359 --> 00:25:51.240 out of my body right now? That way, whenever I 525 00:25:51.240 --> 00:25:53.519 do wake up, I'll have some kind of proof. And 526 00:25:53.559 --> 00:25:56.160 my immediate proof was that, oh, you know what, I'm 527 00:25:56.200 --> 00:25:58.680 just going to turn my TV off. And it was 528 00:25:58.680 --> 00:26:02.279 so stupid because like I got as soon as that happened, 529 00:26:02.319 --> 00:26:05.960 I knew that, like I didn't have very long before 530 00:26:06.039 --> 00:26:08.079 I had to go back to my body eventually, Like 531 00:26:08.079 --> 00:26:09.839 I knew that I was kind of like on a timer. 532 00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:11.759 I don't know where I got that knowing, but I 533 00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:14.000 just knew it. And so then I get back in 534 00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:15.839 my body, I go back to sleep, and I wake 535 00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:16.680 up the next morning. 536 00:26:16.960 --> 00:26:19.319 I'm like, wow, that was really awesome. 537 00:26:19.359 --> 00:26:22.079 Did I actually like have sleep prowsses and as a 538 00:26:22.160 --> 00:26:24.880 project up out of my body? And I'm looking around, 539 00:26:24.920 --> 00:26:27.079 I'm like, what was that thing that I said that 540 00:26:27.119 --> 00:26:29.319 this was going to prove to me that I actually did? 541 00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:33.440 And I was like, the fucking living room TV was on. 542 00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:34.960 I never even leave it on. I don't even know 543 00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:36.839 if I did leave it on, that could have just 544 00:26:36.880 --> 00:26:39.160 been part of my dream kind of thing, right, And 545 00:26:39.240 --> 00:26:42.720 so I'm like, damn, there's like no proof. But I'm 546 00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:44.440 laying in my bed first thing in the morning and 547 00:26:44.480 --> 00:26:47.359 I'm thinking all this thoughts and then i look out 548 00:26:47.960 --> 00:26:50.720 at my front door, at my bedroom door, and it's open, 549 00:26:51.480 --> 00:26:54.200 and I'm like, oh shit, I think I actually did it, 550 00:26:54.240 --> 00:26:56.519 because I know for a fact I never sleep with 551 00:26:56.519 --> 00:26:59.759 my door open, and so I'm convinced that I did 552 00:26:59.799 --> 00:27:03.519 astro project And so yeah, I mean I think that 553 00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:06.799 there are instances where you can play with it. And 554 00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:11.160 also as far as astro projection goes, most people, if 555 00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:13.559 they wake up and they can't move their body, it's 556 00:27:13.680 --> 00:27:16.480 going to cause you to freak out. Like most people, 557 00:27:16.519 --> 00:27:17.720 you're like, oh my god, I'm trapped. 558 00:27:17.720 --> 00:27:19.119 I can't do anything. There's nothing I can do. 559 00:27:19.119 --> 00:27:21.079 I'm just trapped inside of this consciousness and I can't 560 00:27:21.119 --> 00:27:22.200 live this body or anything. 561 00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:23.880 Right. That's all I was gonna say. 562 00:27:23.960 --> 00:27:26.599 Maybe that's why my knee jerk was to say that 563 00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:30.799 you're fucking crazy for hoping you get sleep paralysis, because 564 00:27:31.119 --> 00:27:34.359 from my limited perspective, it was the most terrifying thing 565 00:27:34.359 --> 00:27:36.599 I've ever experienced in my life. But like for somebody 566 00:27:36.640 --> 00:27:40.160 like you who does dream, so like I don't dream. 567 00:27:40.599 --> 00:27:44.640 I think I've dreamt twice in the last five years. Okay, 568 00:27:44.680 --> 00:27:47.759 I just don't. And they've done studies. I've gone, I'm 569 00:27:47.799 --> 00:27:49.799 a veteran. I went to the VA. They had a 570 00:27:49.880 --> 00:27:52.880 whole brain scan done. Like, yo, when I go to bed, 571 00:27:53.440 --> 00:27:56.400 I'm in a fucking coma. I might only get four 572 00:27:56.400 --> 00:27:59.640 hours to sleep a night, but that's a dead four hours, 573 00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:02.200 you know. I mean, it's a I've just kind of 574 00:28:02.240 --> 00:28:06.279 done that. But neither here nor there. I don't dream, 575 00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:09.599 So whenever I think of a sleep paralysis demon that 576 00:28:09.720 --> 00:28:12.559 sounds like a fate worse than death to me. 577 00:28:13.279 --> 00:28:16.119 But Jonathan is somebody who dreams consistently. 578 00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:20.160 He is somebody that delves into the realm of the 579 00:28:20.319 --> 00:28:23.200 states of mind, the states of the brain waves. He 580 00:28:23.319 --> 00:28:26.400 is a licensed hypnotherapist who does pass line progression. 581 00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:29.200 So for you, you would. 582 00:28:29.039 --> 00:28:33.039 Take that to be like an open opportunity, a portal 583 00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:37.680 if you will, to explore a new perspective. Meanwhile, I 584 00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:40.640 would see that as like fuck the world. So like maybe, well, 585 00:28:40.759 --> 00:28:43.640 and that's I'm just a bit biased in my perspective, 586 00:28:43.799 --> 00:28:44.160 my bad. 587 00:28:44.240 --> 00:28:44.359 Well. 588 00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:46.279 And the thing is is that I'm kind of used 589 00:28:46.319 --> 00:28:49.000 to that realm, like that kind I don't want to 590 00:28:49.039 --> 00:28:52.000 call it a psychic realm, the ether whatever, wherever you 591 00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:56.039 are that your body isn't. I I'm used to that 592 00:28:56.079 --> 00:28:59.440 realm because I meditate quite often, and like you said, 593 00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:02.200 I do do the past life aggressions. I do dream 594 00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:04.400 and I try and you know, recall a lot of 595 00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:07.599 my dreams and stuff like that. I love playing in 596 00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:10.440 that realm and I think that that's ultimately where a 597 00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:11.839 lot of people should be doing a lot of their 598 00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:13.960 shadow work, a lot of shit that they got, uh 599 00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:16.519 need that they need worked out, and they just refuse 600 00:29:16.640 --> 00:29:19.039 to work on That is where you would figure it out. 601 00:29:19.240 --> 00:29:20.839 It's the same place you go whenever you're in the 602 00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:23.079 d MT realm. It's the same place as the mushroom room, 603 00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:24.160 except for it's your mind. 604 00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:24.640 That's it. 605 00:29:25.079 --> 00:29:28.160 Okay, what the fuck is happening now? What was that 606 00:29:28.480 --> 00:29:28.839 you did? 607 00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:29.279 This thing? 608 00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:32.640 I did air quotes. I was gonna say shadow work. 609 00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:35.960 I was gonna ask about that. My my camera decided 610 00:29:35.960 --> 00:29:37.400 that balloonsy to come out. 611 00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:41.519 So there once again, Patreon, y'all, what is happening here? 612 00:29:43.200 --> 00:29:45.160 Shadow work? You know what shadow work is? 613 00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:46.799 Right, That's why I'm asking. 614 00:29:46.920 --> 00:29:48.839 So, Like, I've heard that term be used, and I've 615 00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:52.119 heard different people assign different meanings to it. So when 616 00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:55.680 Jonathan says that, or when you say that, what exactly 617 00:29:55.759 --> 00:30:00.079 do we mean asking this in case we have a 618 00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:02.559 new listener who may or may not know things about 619 00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:03.880 stuff about fuck all? 620 00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:05.640 You know what I mean? Where let's just go there? 621 00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:10.960 Okay? So, so for me, shadow work means actually dealing 622 00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:13.279 with your shit instead of just trying to get everybody 623 00:30:13.279 --> 00:30:15.960 else to deal with your mental illness that you know 624 00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:22.000 it's your own. It's kind of acknowledging like I got issues, 625 00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:24.440 you know, like I got issues, and instead of saying 626 00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:26.720 I got issues, you guys all need to deal with 627 00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:29.200 my issues, which seems to be running rampant in the 628 00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:32.839 world today. Yeah, it kind of means like, nah, I 629 00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:34.839 got to deal with my stuff, you know, like, yeah, 630 00:30:34.839 --> 00:30:36.559 I'm a little bit of an asshole. Maybe I should 631 00:30:36.799 --> 00:30:38.319 I should work on that. You know, I'm a little 632 00:30:38.319 --> 00:30:40.640 bit of a of this or that, you know, and 633 00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:43.319 it's kind of like, yeah, I have issues, you know, 634 00:30:43.400 --> 00:30:47.079 not being not standing up, not manning up, and you know, 635 00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:49.759 I need to stand up from what I believe in. 636 00:30:50.319 --> 00:30:52.839 You're taking all your issues self groove. 637 00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:55.799 Well, you're taking all your issues pretty much back to 638 00:30:55.839 --> 00:30:58.400 the home office and you're dealing with it in house 639 00:30:58.920 --> 00:31:04.960 instead of lashing out on against somebody or taking it 640 00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:07.079 out on you know, a loved one or a friend 641 00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:08.359 or somebody you don't even know. 642 00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:11.680 Because most of the time, most of the time. 643 00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:13.839 That people do that where they you know, they they 644 00:31:13.920 --> 00:31:16.640 lash out at other people or whatever the case may be, 645 00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:20.240 it's usually because they got something else going on inside 646 00:31:20.240 --> 00:31:24.079 of them and it's just leaking out, exactly. And so 647 00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:26.599 the idea is is that you would do this what 648 00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:29.039 they what they call shadow work, basically just working on 649 00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:31.519 yourself and you're trying to get your You're trying to 650 00:31:31.920 --> 00:31:35.440 basically have a personal conversation with yourself and trying to 651 00:31:35.480 --> 00:31:37.640 figure out why it is you act this way or 652 00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:40.519 react this way, or you know, like like trying to 653 00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:43.039 figure out whatever your trigger points are so that doesn't 654 00:31:43.079 --> 00:31:44.440 happen again and shit like that. 655 00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:50.720 So self actuation and self growth and like becoming the 656 00:31:50.720 --> 00:31:52.759 better version of yourself. 657 00:31:54.119 --> 00:31:58.640 Sure, okay, i'd say so, yeah, I fuck with it, okay. 658 00:31:58.880 --> 00:32:01.359 Right, And so I think that that is something that 659 00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:05.039 is obviously it's it's something that people should be doing. 660 00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:07.599 I think that, you know, at least on at least 661 00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:12.240 on a weekly basis, because this world as crazy as fuck, 662 00:32:12.480 --> 00:32:15.559 and we gotta you know, we gotta work on ourselves 663 00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:18.079 before we plan on fixing anything outside of us. So 664 00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:21.559 that's that's I don't know where we were going with that, 665 00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:26.880 but yeah. So so you're somebody that you had possibly 666 00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:32.079 one of these instances and it wasn't good. And the 667 00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:34.720 thing that I wanted to ask you or bring up 668 00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:37.119 an instant real quick. There was this woman who I 669 00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:39.240 saw and she documented it. She put it up on 670 00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:41.119 TikTok and stuff, and she was kind of going over it. 671 00:32:41.480 --> 00:32:45.119 She had one of those sleep proalysis kind of deals, 672 00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:48.799 and whenever she was laying in bed, she saw at 673 00:32:48.799 --> 00:32:52.200 the foot of her bed was this massive, fucking like 674 00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:57.079 shadow monster thing with huge claws and you know, crazy eyes, 675 00:32:57.160 --> 00:32:59.640 and it was just terrifying to look at. And it 676 00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:04.480 fell as if like that entity was feeding off of 677 00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:08.759 her fear a lot, like you could say, possibly demonic 678 00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:12.000 who knows right well. After doing a little bit of 679 00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:14.759 shadow work and doing a little meditation trying to figure 680 00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:17.559 out what the hell all this actually means, she found 681 00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:23.720 out that that was essentially that was just her, but 682 00:33:23.960 --> 00:33:27.440 like the one hundred percent bad parts of her. So 683 00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:31.079 all the fear, all the anxiety, all the depression, all 684 00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:37.160 the hatred, all the judgment, every possible negative quality about 685 00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:41.720 her was embodied into this one entity. And ever since, 686 00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:43.960 she's kind of like cracked that code and she's worked 687 00:33:43.960 --> 00:33:46.359 on herself, and shit, she hasn't come in contact with it, 688 00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:48.960 like it hasn't bothered her anything. And I think that 689 00:33:48.960 --> 00:33:53.079 that's this is just my own personal opinion. I personally 690 00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:56.759 think that that's what a lot of these quote unquote 691 00:33:57.119 --> 00:33:59.759 demons are. I think that they are personal to you, 692 00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:02.960 and I think that that's. 693 00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:05.680 Just my own personal interpretation of it. 694 00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:07.880 I think that they are kind of just like, uh, 695 00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:11.039 I don't even know what you would call it, just 696 00:34:11.079 --> 00:34:12.360 like offshoots of you. 697 00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:15.599 Yeah, like I would say, so that that takes us 698 00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:19.079 into the realm of poultergeists, because poulter Degeist, in my opinion, 699 00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:24.599 are are entities that we have created, we have actually manifested. 700 00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:28.239 And it's exactly what you're saying. It's these negative emotions 701 00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:32.679 and it usually Poltergeist usually manifests from like teenage girls 702 00:34:32.760 --> 00:34:35.719 that are going through a lot of hormonal change, a 703 00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:38.199 lot a lot of change, and they actually create these 704 00:34:38.559 --> 00:34:43.079 Poultergeist And that very much could be it because they 705 00:34:43.159 --> 00:34:46.039 create this entity and eventually it breaks off and it 706 00:34:46.079 --> 00:34:51.400 becomes an school entity onto itself. But I still do 707 00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:54.840 believe that there are other and and this could be 708 00:34:54.840 --> 00:34:57.320 this entity could have been starting to form and it's 709 00:34:57.360 --> 00:35:00.719 feeding off her fear because it if we go into 710 00:35:00.840 --> 00:35:04.400 like the prison planet reincarnation trap kind of theory, there 711 00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:07.039 is these and part of it I believe of some 712 00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:10.719 of it I think is not my thing, But there's 713 00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:13.159 these creatures that feed off your energy, which they call loosh. 714 00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:15.360 I hate that name. It sounds it sounds like like 715 00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:19.320 like some eighties like uh, like a surfer talk some 716 00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:23.480 looche man, this loosh going on. But yeah, that feed 717 00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:29.039 off of your and these negative emotions and they absorb 718 00:35:29.079 --> 00:35:31.760 it and that is what they eat. I do believe 719 00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:34.320 that that is a legit thing as well, Like I 720 00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:36.639 think that these entities do that. And I talked to 721 00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:40.199 a local here who had kind of like the same 722 00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:44.320 type of energy talking about come through his window and 723 00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:48.559 attack him while he was sleeping, and he had a 724 00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:53.239 witness that someone witnessed him being attacked while he was sleeping, 725 00:35:53.840 --> 00:35:56.079 which was crazy. 726 00:35:56.639 --> 00:35:58.719 Where is here for you, really. 727 00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:02.400 I'm in Mexico and the city of Campeche, in the 728 00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:03.199 state of Campeche. 729 00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:06.239 Now let me ask you, do you believe that that 730 00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:11.800 experience had anything? And this is super uh, you know, 731 00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:17.480 arrogant and ignorant question here, But in the realm of Santaia, 732 00:36:18.199 --> 00:36:20.920 I don't know how prevalent that is in Mexico as 733 00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:24.039 opposed to Al Salvador, as opposed to hunteras like, I 734 00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:31.679 am completely disconnected from how connected voodoo, Santa Rio or 735 00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:35.119 any type of occult practices are to the region. Right, 736 00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:38.159 But with that being said, and as you're speaking about 737 00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:41.519 a being that feeds off of luge, do you believe 738 00:36:41.559 --> 00:36:45.119 that that might potentially have something to do with local 739 00:36:45.159 --> 00:36:46.360 occult practices? 740 00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:47.960 Where are you at? 741 00:36:48.199 --> 00:36:51.840 Okay, so, I can't really necessarily speak for Santania, but 742 00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:59.280 there there is a lot of Brujas and and Brujos, 743 00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:03.199 you know who who shape change, you know, like, okay, 744 00:37:03.239 --> 00:37:05.159 kin Walker's of sorts, the blue. 745 00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:07.320 Haws and Brujos. Right, Okay, let me ask you this 746 00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:10.679 because I am I am super super white. I'm gonna 747 00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:13.199 be straight up, I am as caucast. 748 00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:15.880 From Canada. I'm from Canada. 749 00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:18.000 So you know, I was gonna ask you have a 750 00:37:18.199 --> 00:37:21.480 zero accent whatsoever? You say you're living in Mexico and 751 00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:24.000 you say you're Canadians. So many things are throwing up, 752 00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:26.440 what the fuck's here? But like, all right, I'm with it. 753 00:37:27.079 --> 00:37:32.360 But uh, okay, So, the Blue Haws and Brujos of Mexico, 754 00:37:33.239 --> 00:37:36.440 the type of witchcraft that they are practicing is not 755 00:37:36.639 --> 00:37:38.000 Santaia based. 756 00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:43.000 From what I know in the area that we're in. No, 757 00:37:43.159 --> 00:37:46.039 it's not to say no, I'm sure there is. I'm 758 00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:48.719 positive especial Ico City, there's a lot of that stuff 759 00:37:48.840 --> 00:37:49.119 going on. 760 00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:54.159 M probably connects, no doubt so. 761 00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:58.320 But you're saying that the mostly the witches male and 762 00:37:58.440 --> 00:38:03.159 female of Mexico, the type of witchcraft that they are 763 00:38:03.199 --> 00:38:06.920 practicing would be based in what based off of what 764 00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:07.760 you've seen. 765 00:38:09.119 --> 00:38:12.360 So I'm not too privy of what it is. I 766 00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:15.960 know why, which is it's actually pretty funny. I don't 767 00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:19.360 want to say it's funny. But the necessity for the 768 00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:24.239 brujos a lot of times is out of jealousy, because 769 00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:28.239 there is a lot here where is my boyfriend, is 770 00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:30.800 my husband cheeting? Is my girlfriend or my wife cheating? 771 00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:35.559 So they will contact the brewja possess jealous They will 772 00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:40.360 contact like these brujas and brujos to shape shift into 773 00:38:40.719 --> 00:38:43.159 whether it be a dog, like a black dog, which 774 00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:47.559 is a common one here, bird to follow their loved ones. 775 00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:52.440 Also to buy candles, uh, you know, like love love candles, 776 00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:57.039 you know, to promote you know, like this. So you know, 777 00:38:57.480 --> 00:39:03.079 the Catholic religion here is extremely wrong. The spirituality side 778 00:39:03.079 --> 00:39:06.159 of it is also really really strong, So I find 779 00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:08.880 it really different than than like like Canada or the US, 780 00:39:08.920 --> 00:39:11.039 where the religion is very like No, this is the 781 00:39:11.079 --> 00:39:13.599 way it is now. This is kind of like merged together. 782 00:39:13.960 --> 00:39:16.159 And so a lot of people will, you know, hire 783 00:39:16.199 --> 00:39:18.440 blue hose and blue house to to track down their 784 00:39:18.480 --> 00:39:21.239 loved ones and to see their loved ones and and whatnot. 785 00:39:21.599 --> 00:39:25.119 So the car tells that and they all wear that ring. 786 00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:29.880 It's the Saint of is it? Okay? 787 00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:33.119 Okay, I'm sorry, my accent is trash. Once again, I'm 788 00:39:33.199 --> 00:39:36.320 super fucking white. Right, But either neither here nor there? 789 00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:42.719 So that is a Catholic yet occult practice. Is that 790 00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:47.400 intertwined with the blue or is that a separate culture? 791 00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:51.599 I cannot comment on that. I don't know enough about it, 792 00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:55.039 you know what. What what I do know here is 793 00:39:55.079 --> 00:39:58.159 that everybody has and now I'm not I don't want 794 00:39:58.199 --> 00:40:00.480 to get too much into a house because I don't 795 00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:02.039 know enough of it. It should be something that I 796 00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:02.840 should be looking into. 797 00:40:03.239 --> 00:40:06.519 But what I do know is this strictly opinion based. 798 00:40:06.519 --> 00:40:09.000 Bro we hypotheticalize it pathetically. 799 00:40:09.039 --> 00:40:12.960 I say, I don't have a clue, fair enough, fair enough, 800 00:40:13.039 --> 00:40:14.519 I don't want to get my opinion on it. If 801 00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:17.840 I don't, I have nothing to base it on. You know, 802 00:40:18.039 --> 00:40:21.079 being down here now though, like one thing is is 803 00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:22.960 is you know, when I was in Canada, you can 804 00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:26.079 kind of talk about some you know, some woo shit 805 00:40:26.239 --> 00:40:28.199 or crazy shit, and some people will be like, oh, yeah, 806 00:40:28.199 --> 00:40:31.480 I've got this, I got that here you mention it, 807 00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:34.599 and everybody starts coming forward with all their experiences, you know, 808 00:40:34.679 --> 00:40:37.119 Like in this area that I'm in, one of the 809 00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:43.320 largest most common experiences that happen are with alushes otherwise 810 00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:48.320 known as dwen duendees, you know, or little people. Lots 811 00:40:48.440 --> 00:40:50.480 of stories. You can't throw a rock without hitting someone 812 00:40:50.519 --> 00:40:52.519 who has their own personal experience of. 813 00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:55.639 That, you mean, like a dwarf or like an. 814 00:40:55.480 --> 00:40:59.840 Elf, like a dwarf, more like a chaup like that, 815 00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:05.199 like childlikes not wings with you. Yeah, all right, let 816 00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:05.639 let me. 817 00:41:05.719 --> 00:41:11.119 I guess I'm gonna try my knowledge here. What color 818 00:41:11.480 --> 00:41:15.039 is the pasole in your region of Mexico? And I'm 819 00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:17.400 gonna guesstimate and see if I got it? Okay, okay, 820 00:41:18.679 --> 00:41:20.039 what what color? If you were to go to a 821 00:41:20.039 --> 00:41:22.679 restaurant and order pasole? What color is it coming out? 822 00:41:23.079 --> 00:41:24.159 Like a brownish color? 823 00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:26.519 Oh you're in the north. 824 00:41:26.960 --> 00:41:31.239 No, no, damn, I thought red pasole was in the north. 825 00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:34.480 No, I'm so this is more brownish color, not red. 826 00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:39.159 But yeah, it's a I'm in like like in the 827 00:41:40.119 --> 00:41:42.599 Gulf of Mexico, so I'm in the south, so like 828 00:41:42.920 --> 00:41:46.280 probably directly maybe kind of directly across from Florida. 829 00:41:47.719 --> 00:41:49.920 Damn, okay, all right, all. 830 00:41:49.880 --> 00:41:52.760 Right, right on right on the coast. 831 00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:56.440 Hell, I need to try green basole and white basole. 832 00:41:56.519 --> 00:41:57.599 I've only ever had red. 833 00:41:57.639 --> 00:42:02.079 I've heard technically what I order it. You don't order green, 834 00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:05.280 red or white. It's just you just order pole. 835 00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:08.320 That's why I asked, because like I've been told again, 836 00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:11.039 Super gringo, Super don't know what I'm talking about, but 837 00:42:11.079 --> 00:42:12.800 I've been told that, like if you go to North 838 00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:15.960 Mexico and you order a bowl of pasole, it would 839 00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:19.159 come out red. Central would be more white, and then 840 00:42:19.320 --> 00:42:22.440 Southern would be more green. Again, I have nothing to 841 00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:24.880 base that off of other than the Internet. So I 842 00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:27.239 was hoping that maybe if you said green, I'd be like, oh, 843 00:42:27.280 --> 00:42:28.400 you're in the South of Mexico. 844 00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:31.119 I know, shit, But I was wrong. It'd be like that. 845 00:42:33.199 --> 00:42:35.320 No, that's that's all right, that's all right. Yeah, So 846 00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:39.840 you know that's what's down here is that you know, 847 00:42:39.960 --> 00:42:43.079 and uh, what is it to go with this? Yeah, 848 00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:46.840 there is you know down here there's a lot of 849 00:42:46.840 --> 00:42:49.920 those alushas, and there's lots of stories about, you know, 850 00:42:50.119 --> 00:42:54.320 my sister in law, my brother in law, even myself. 851 00:42:54.360 --> 00:42:56.000 I had an experience when I was working on my 852 00:42:56.000 --> 00:42:58.440 father in law's land, and I don't know what that was. 853 00:42:58.480 --> 00:43:01.079 So I hate saying I had an experience when I 854 00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:03.440 have no idea what I experience. It was just some 855 00:43:03.760 --> 00:43:06.360 it was just some strangeness that I experienced on the land. 856 00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:12.039 But but going back Jonathan to you had said about this, 857 00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:14.760 I'm cycling. I'm going circling way back, and I know 858 00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:16.519 we got, I know we got the time when you 859 00:43:16.519 --> 00:43:21.000 talked about out of body experience like I've only really 860 00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:23.800 truly had one out of body experience, and I think 861 00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:27.159 I kind of kiboshed it. I was pretty young, and 862 00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:30.440 I got made fun of for bringing it up, and uh, 863 00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:32.000 it was kind of like at that point, so it 864 00:43:32.039 --> 00:43:34.599 was kind of like, you know, it's like, no, no, 865 00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:36.880 I'm not going to do that anymore. And uh, I 866 00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:40.960 was running a race and and I was behind the 867 00:43:41.039 --> 00:43:42.519 kids that were in front of me, and I was like, 868 00:43:42.519 --> 00:43:44.400 I need to I need to go faster, you know, 869 00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:46.840 And like I was with the athletic kids, I was 870 00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:50.360 an athletic kid, but these were like the top and 871 00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:51.800 I'm like, I need to pick it up a little 872 00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:55.840 bit faster. So and so I started to push myself 873 00:43:55.920 --> 00:43:58.199 beyond the limits that I normally do. And when I 874 00:43:58.239 --> 00:44:02.159 did that, I literally shot out of my body and 875 00:44:02.400 --> 00:44:05.039 I am about ten feet fifteen feet in the air 876 00:44:05.119 --> 00:44:09.840 watching everybody run. And when I saw myself running, then 877 00:44:09.880 --> 00:44:13.119 it was like right back into my own body. And 878 00:44:13.800 --> 00:44:16.280 at that point, you know, we finished the race, and 879 00:44:16.360 --> 00:44:20.400 I start telling everybody, oh, yeah, this happened, and of course, 880 00:44:20.400 --> 00:44:22.440 what the kids do? You know, you're weird, And so 881 00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:24.000 that was kind of like the first real times I 882 00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:27.159 started being called weird. And uh so, I think I 883 00:44:27.159 --> 00:44:28.760 think after being called weird, it was kind of one 884 00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:31.360 of those things that I just decided that I don't 885 00:44:31.400 --> 00:44:33.760 like that. You know, you kind of get that peer pressure. 886 00:44:33.840 --> 00:44:38.239 You know, you're the black Sheep, already dubbed the black Sheep, 887 00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:40.559 you know, Oh yeah right now, yeah. 888 00:44:40.559 --> 00:44:42.639 No, I hey, dude, you gotta just wear it as 889 00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:45.119 a badge of honor, you know, whenever somebody calls me weird, 890 00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:48.320 I'm like, fuck, yeah, I am, you know, But as 891 00:44:48.320 --> 00:44:52.480 far as those kind of like strange out of body experiences, 892 00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:56.760 especially whenever you're not aiming for that, you know, like 893 00:44:56.840 --> 00:44:59.639 you're well, you said you were running, and that's whenever 894 00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:00.000 it happen. 895 00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:02.960 Yeah, I was running. I was ten years old and 896 00:45:03.039 --> 00:45:05.639 I was running a race. My dog is playing with 897 00:45:05.639 --> 00:45:08.840 my camera. Yeah I was. I was ten years old 898 00:45:09.159 --> 00:45:12.679 running a race and boom, you know, shot straight out 899 00:45:12.679 --> 00:45:13.519 at the top of my head. 900 00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:14.519 Wow. 901 00:45:14.639 --> 00:45:19.119 Okay, so these out of body experiences are so like 902 00:45:19.320 --> 00:45:20.199 fascinating to me. 903 00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:23.239 I Actually, there's this website. 904 00:45:23.559 --> 00:45:26.280 I'm sure you've checked it out, being like what you cover, 905 00:45:26.400 --> 00:45:31.119 but it's called nderf dot org derf dot org, which 906 00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:35.039 is basically like an accounting of all of the near 907 00:45:35.079 --> 00:45:39.119 death experiences and out of body experiences and people just documenting, 908 00:45:39.440 --> 00:45:42.960 you know, what they were able to experience. And you know, 909 00:45:43.199 --> 00:45:45.480 the near death experienced ones are obviously like those are 910 00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:49.840 some of my favorite, because you're you're literally dead or 911 00:45:49.960 --> 00:45:54.159 about to die, you know, and then you're somehow able 912 00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:56.559 to experience something that is. 913 00:45:56.519 --> 00:45:57.760 Outside of your body. 914 00:45:58.159 --> 00:46:01.519 But you everybody that experiences that, they all say that 915 00:46:01.599 --> 00:46:04.480 it's more real than this place right and so like, 916 00:46:04.719 --> 00:46:07.559 which is kind of a crazy sentiment, like how could 917 00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:11.880 you possibly look around experience. I mean, I'm thirty four, 918 00:46:11.960 --> 00:46:14.400 I've experienced thirty four years of this life, and for 919 00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:16.400 me to be able to say, oh, yeah, that other 920 00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:19.519 place is more real than this, how do you compare 921 00:46:20.519 --> 00:46:24.599 what you have always thought to be real with something 922 00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:28.440 else that is seemingly even more real. And so there's 923 00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:30.679 those people that have the near death experiences. But then 924 00:46:30.719 --> 00:46:33.519 there's a bunch of accounts of out of body experiences, 925 00:46:33.559 --> 00:46:36.519 which are I mean, I think that they're equally as cool, 926 00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:41.119 and I don't know what to do with that outside 927 00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:45.119 of I don't know what do you make of people 928 00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:48.599 having out of body experiences, near death experiences, stuff like that, 929 00:46:48.719 --> 00:46:52.320 because the accounts are they're all over the place, and 930 00:46:52.519 --> 00:46:55.280 not everybody experiences the same exact thing, but it almost 931 00:46:55.280 --> 00:46:58.599 seems very personal to the person that it's happening to. 932 00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:00.800 So maybe that that's why they're different. 933 00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:03.800 Yeah, it's really fascinating like that. A lot of times 934 00:47:03.800 --> 00:47:07.079 the OBEs the out of body experiences, you know, we're 935 00:47:07.559 --> 00:47:09.239 a lot of times you're shooting out of the head 936 00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:12.199 kind of thing, and it's either it's either like you said, 937 00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:15.800 like this near sleeping experience where you're almost asleep kind 938 00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:17.400 of thing, or you are asleep but then you wake 939 00:47:17.480 --> 00:47:20.119 up and you get out of your body. Or there's 940 00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:25.440 the extreme event, which is me running a race, but 941 00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:27.719 there's usually like an extreme event where people shoot out. 942 00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:30.280 You know, it's almost like a safety mechanism. It's kind 943 00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:33.239 of like we we move out of our body and 944 00:47:33.239 --> 00:47:35.840 and and if we're going into new age thing, you know, 945 00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:39.320 some people talk about you know, your your your soul 946 00:47:39.360 --> 00:47:41.639 and your spirit are not lined with your body, and 947 00:47:41.679 --> 00:47:44.760 sometimes that could be happening because you're out of sync. 948 00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:48.000 You're actually not fully back engaged into your body. And 949 00:47:47.840 --> 00:47:49.960 that's a concern I've had too, is like you know, 950 00:47:50.119 --> 00:47:53.719 have ever had these experiences, but maybe I'm not back 951 00:47:53.719 --> 00:47:55.559 in sync with my body and it could be that, 952 00:47:55.960 --> 00:47:59.280 you know, maybe you're very uncoordinated and it could be 953 00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:02.039 due to that, you know that you're not in line 954 00:48:02.079 --> 00:48:04.679 with your body again. But these nds, I find them 955 00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:08.239 fascinating and you know they're there. Of course, there is 956 00:48:08.320 --> 00:48:12.840 like the light, there's you see other people standing near you, 957 00:48:12.840 --> 00:48:16.039 you know, sometimes family members, and I find them really 958 00:48:16.039 --> 00:48:18.039 really interesting. You know, I have a good friend of 959 00:48:18.039 --> 00:48:21.960 mine who had an NDE as well, and his experience 960 00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:24.559 was really cool. And when you're talking about like this, 961 00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:27.880 you know, you start to experience all these other emotions 962 00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:29.800 that maybe were cut off from. And he's like, you know, 963 00:48:29.840 --> 00:48:33.159 I felt like this, like this perfect love, this perfect harmony, 964 00:48:33.360 --> 00:48:35.760 and and a lot of times people want to get 965 00:48:35.800 --> 00:48:39.719 back to there, and which which has which is also 966 00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:42.280 concerning because you know, if you have one of these 967 00:48:42.320 --> 00:48:46.119 experiences and then you have like this amazing, amazing you know, 968 00:48:46.159 --> 00:48:47.880 we'll say a hi. You know, it's like almost like 969 00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:50.119 this drug high that you're having, and then you come 970 00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:52.400 off of it and you're like you almost want that again, 971 00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:54.679 Like do you do some people just want to take 972 00:48:54.679 --> 00:48:56.679 their lives so they can get back into that, uh, 973 00:48:57.280 --> 00:48:58.519 that perfect harmony again. 974 00:48:58.559 --> 00:49:01.000 I don't know, it seems like it because and you know, 975 00:49:01.039 --> 00:49:05.079 it's it's crazy because whenever we go to sleep at night, 976 00:49:05.239 --> 00:49:08.599 there's that naturally secreting DMT from our pontio glands that 977 00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:11.960 allows us to be able to see these dreams and 978 00:49:11.960 --> 00:49:14.320 and live through these dreams and stuff like that, and 979 00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:18.760 the same thing happens for near death experiences, and ultimately 980 00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:22.079 people who are they say that as soon as you die, 981 00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:26.760 you have like basically an overdose of d MT that 982 00:49:26.880 --> 00:49:29.079 goes off within your brain. Like they've you know, they've 983 00:49:29.079 --> 00:49:32.480 monitored that and everything. So it's like, it's it's so 984 00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:36.159 crazy how that happens. But then also, I think that we've, 985 00:49:36.320 --> 00:49:39.639 you know, over the course of like human like humanity 986 00:49:39.760 --> 00:49:43.920 and time in general, Like why wouldn't we have evolved 987 00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:47.400 from that need of needing to dream at night, of 988 00:49:47.480 --> 00:49:50.000 needing to even sleep, you know, I mean, it takes 989 00:49:50.079 --> 00:49:53.239 up damn near a third of our lives. And and 990 00:49:53.400 --> 00:49:56.239 for some reason, every anytime somebody talks about a dream, 991 00:49:56.559 --> 00:49:59.280 oh well, that's just nothing, you know, like it's it's 992 00:49:59.280 --> 00:49:59.880 no big deal. 993 00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:03.440 It's like I feel like I need to dream, right, 994 00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:06.960 I could get into dreams. You're hearing you talk about 995 00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:09.760 dreams and saying that you're kind of like a hypnotherapist 996 00:50:09.800 --> 00:50:13.400 as well. Like I would say when I was younger, 997 00:50:13.480 --> 00:50:15.400 used to call myself like the dreamer or a dream 998 00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:18.039 walker or along those lines, because I have so many 999 00:50:18.159 --> 00:50:20.159 dreams and it really would piss me off when people 1000 00:50:20.159 --> 00:50:24.119 would dissect my dreams and like, oh, young would say 1001 00:50:24.159 --> 00:50:26.320 it's this or that, and I'm like no, No, there's 1002 00:50:26.320 --> 00:50:28.719 more to dreams than just that. Yes, I do agree 1003 00:50:28.760 --> 00:50:34.159 that subconsciously, I do believe that we are replaying events. 1004 00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:36.440 Some of our dreams were replay events that happened during 1005 00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:38.960 the day, just our brain doing that. But I don't 1006 00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:41.679 believe I think that's maybe like fifteen percent of our dreams. 1007 00:50:42.079 --> 00:50:46.239 I think we actually travel. We travel forward in time, 1008 00:50:46.239 --> 00:50:48.920 we travel backward in time, we travel sideways into different 1009 00:50:48.920 --> 00:50:54.440 parallel universes. I believe that, and this is my own belief, 1010 00:50:54.519 --> 00:50:56.800 and I believe it wholeheartedly that I believe I have. 1011 00:50:57.639 --> 00:50:59.559 If you guys remember quant or if you ever known 1012 00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:03.039 the the TV show called Quantum Leap, where he would 1013 00:51:03.920 --> 00:51:06.920 he would jump, his consciousness would jump into other people, 1014 00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:08.880 and he would actually kind of take over their bodies 1015 00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:11.800 and live parts of their lives so he could do something. 1016 00:51:12.480 --> 00:51:14.199 I swear to God I've done that in my dream. 1017 00:51:14.440 --> 00:51:18.760 I have two or three occasions where I have taken 1018 00:51:18.760 --> 00:51:22.519 over someone's body and I have like this goal that 1019 00:51:22.599 --> 00:51:24.679 needs to happen, and I have to make sure that, 1020 00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:26.199 like the one I had to make sure my sister 1021 00:51:26.199 --> 00:51:28.360 didn't die in she was going to be dying, she 1022 00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:33.280 was going to die in a gas station shootout. Her 1023 00:51:33.360 --> 00:51:35.760 friends robbed a gas station. She was just there like 1024 00:51:35.800 --> 00:51:39.039 a you know, wrong time, wrong place kind of thing 1025 00:51:39.360 --> 00:51:41.480 with the wrong people, and she got shot and killed. 1026 00:51:41.480 --> 00:51:44.639 And I was a eleven year old black kid, like 1027 00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:46.880 I knew who I was, but I was in the 1028 00:51:46.880 --> 00:51:48.239 body of an eleven year old black kid, and I 1029 00:51:48.280 --> 00:51:49.400 had to prevent this from happening. 1030 00:51:50.159 --> 00:51:55.480 WHOA all right, So it just seems that sometimes it's 1031 00:51:55.480 --> 00:51:58.199 almost like the soul needs to learn that, and there's 1032 00:51:58.239 --> 00:51:59.639 no way you're going to be able to learn that 1033 00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:01.400 in this same carnation kind of deal. 1034 00:52:02.320 --> 00:52:05.239 Yeah, yeah, that could be exactly it. You know, it 1035 00:52:05.239 --> 00:52:08.960 could be us. It could be that my consciousness is 1036 00:52:09.039 --> 00:52:14.199 jumping or I'm just going to another another parallel life 1037 00:52:14.199 --> 00:52:16.480 where I'm actually living this and I'm just sharing that 1038 00:52:16.559 --> 00:52:19.280 same consciousness I'm and I'm doing this, you know, Like 1039 00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:22.800 I was, like I told them, like, oh, I need 1040 00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:25.800 to get this tattoo because I told them who I was. 1041 00:52:25.840 --> 00:52:28.280 I said, you know, I have a foty year old 1042 00:52:28.320 --> 00:52:30.360 mad right now. You know, I'm an eleven year old 1043 00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:32.360 black boys body, but I'm a forty year old vv 1044 00:52:32.440 --> 00:52:35.559 white male you know, from originally from Canada living in 1045 00:52:35.639 --> 00:52:38.199 Mexico and oh, I got to get this tattoo that 1046 00:52:38.239 --> 00:52:41.679 I have in my other life because I have to 1047 00:52:41.719 --> 00:52:42.480 connect myself. 1048 00:52:43.960 --> 00:52:46.039 Dude. I love this kind of shit. 1049 00:52:46.159 --> 00:52:48.760 Have you ever seen There's a TV show on Netflix 1050 00:52:48.800 --> 00:52:51.239 And I always try and tell as many people as 1051 00:52:51.239 --> 00:52:53.679 I possibly can to watch this show because it is 1052 00:52:53.760 --> 00:52:56.599 absolutely First of all, it's awesome, and I think that 1053 00:52:56.679 --> 00:52:58.679 the reason they're not bringing it back is because it 1054 00:52:58.760 --> 00:52:59.639 hit home too much. 1055 00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:02.719 But it's called The OA. Have you ever heard of this? 1056 00:53:04.159 --> 00:53:06.960 I have. I have not watched it completely though. 1057 00:53:07.079 --> 00:53:11.039 Okay, you like what you talk about one hundred percent 1058 00:53:11.159 --> 00:53:14.239 would mess with this TV show. It is exactly like 1059 00:53:14.280 --> 00:53:16.840 what you're talking about, like, you know, jumping out of 1060 00:53:16.840 --> 00:53:20.920 your body, going into another body, living multiple lives in 1061 00:53:20.960 --> 00:53:24.360 different dimensions and almost all at once kind of deal. 1062 00:53:24.960 --> 00:53:27.920 And I think it's one of the best TV shows 1063 00:53:28.000 --> 00:53:31.880 ever created. And so yeah, I would definitely suggest that 1064 00:53:31.920 --> 00:53:34.760 one to you. But I love that kind of stuff, dude, because. 1065 00:53:34.559 --> 00:53:36.679 I got to tell you about one more. Then, Yeah, 1066 00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:38.440 I got to tell you about one more. So there 1067 00:53:38.480 --> 00:53:41.639 was another one where I jumped into this young probably 1068 00:53:41.679 --> 00:53:47.440 a seventeen year old white male's white male, and I 1069 00:53:47.559 --> 00:53:56.239 in this this scenario. The US was an occupied it 1070 00:53:56.320 --> 00:53:59.440 was occupied by it was like a Chinese state government 1071 00:53:59.519 --> 00:54:02.679 kind of thing that was what was operating this. And 1072 00:54:03.239 --> 00:54:07.119 I went and found this because I needed my consciousness, 1073 00:54:07.119 --> 00:54:09.039 needed a way to get back to my body. I'm like, 1074 00:54:09.079 --> 00:54:11.039 I need to find a way back. So what I 1075 00:54:11.079 --> 00:54:15.440 did then is I found a scientist and he drew 1076 00:54:15.519 --> 00:54:18.360 a diagram which I have recreated a couple of times. 1077 00:54:18.559 --> 00:54:21.960 And I've recreated this diagram of how to get back 1078 00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:26.159 into this life, into this parallel universe. And so I 1079 00:54:26.239 --> 00:54:28.760 had to, you know, go but I still had to 1080 00:54:28.760 --> 00:54:31.280 go through the process of living this seven year old 1081 00:54:31.760 --> 00:54:34.519 boy's life. You know. I had to go to football practice, 1082 00:54:34.519 --> 00:54:37.880 football tryouts to try doing this. But in the end, 1083 00:54:37.960 --> 00:54:41.960 I had to figure out how to get back into 1084 00:54:42.199 --> 00:54:44.679 my reality. And it has to do with the Van 1085 00:54:44.719 --> 00:54:48.639 Allen radiation belt and with the Moon being a large, 1086 00:54:48.639 --> 00:54:50.920 heavy mass object. So I had to disrupt the energy 1087 00:54:50.920 --> 00:54:53.199 flow that was flowing around Earth by sticking in a 1088 00:54:53.199 --> 00:54:55.519 heavy mass object, which was the moon, and that was 1089 00:54:55.559 --> 00:54:57.400 a portal back into this reality. 1090 00:55:00.039 --> 00:55:02.440 I can I just say already, I love you, brother, 1091 00:55:02.760 --> 00:55:05.400 because this kind of shit. Nobody talks about this kind 1092 00:55:05.440 --> 00:55:08.360 of stuff, and like, I feel like, have you ever 1093 00:55:08.400 --> 00:55:10.760 gone to sleep and you wake up and you feel like, 1094 00:55:11.239 --> 00:55:13.400 I don't know what I was just doing in my dream, 1095 00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:15.320 but I feel like I was learning something. 1096 00:55:15.519 --> 00:55:17.119 You ever feel like you like you wake up and 1097 00:55:17.159 --> 00:55:18.760 you're like, what was I learning? 1098 00:55:19.519 --> 00:55:23.199 All the time? A lot, a lot, you know. And 1099 00:55:24.159 --> 00:55:26.320 this is the thing I've been doing, is that I 1100 00:55:26.400 --> 00:55:29.400 document my dreams. I've been writing down my dreams since 1101 00:55:29.440 --> 00:55:32.840 twenty twelve, and so I have about, you know what, 1102 00:55:33.119 --> 00:55:37.119 that's almost thirteen years now of a dream journal going on. 1103 00:55:37.199 --> 00:55:38.719 And what I also like to do is I like 1104 00:55:38.760 --> 00:55:42.079 to find pictures that are similar or I'll draw things 1105 00:55:42.159 --> 00:55:45.880 out just so I don't forget what I saw. And 1106 00:55:46.559 --> 00:55:48.519 I think I think it's very important that we do that, 1107 00:55:49.079 --> 00:55:51.119 because the more I do that, the more that I remember. 1108 00:55:51.320 --> 00:55:53.119 The less that I do those kinds of things, then 1109 00:55:53.119 --> 00:55:55.639 I find it harder to actually remember my dream. So 1110 00:55:55.719 --> 00:55:58.400 right now I haven't been writing me down my dreams 1111 00:55:58.400 --> 00:56:00.840 as much, and now I'm having trouble remembering them. But 1112 00:56:00.880 --> 00:56:03.679 if you want to see, if you don't mind, I 1113 00:56:03.719 --> 00:56:06.360 could actually show you the pictures of what I read, 1114 00:56:06.119 --> 00:56:10.480 what the scientist drew. It's rough, you know, because I'm 1115 00:56:10.559 --> 00:56:12.360 drawing from a dream, but I could share that with 1116 00:56:12.400 --> 00:56:13.440 you if you want to see. 1117 00:56:13.559 --> 00:56:16.400 Please, I would love to see that. Okay, I just 1118 00:56:16.400 --> 00:56:18.440 gave you the the ability to share screen if you 1119 00:56:18.480 --> 00:56:18.760 need to. 1120 00:56:19.519 --> 00:56:23.880 Yeah, I got it going on here. Okay, tell me 1121 00:56:23.920 --> 00:56:30.039 if you can see that now, yep, okay. So this 1122 00:56:30.280 --> 00:56:33.599 is what I saw, was I drew it out. It 1123 00:56:33.639 --> 00:56:35.880 was an energy entering into some sort of aperture and 1124 00:56:35.880 --> 00:56:37.960 then expanding back out after. It was like it was 1125 00:56:37.960 --> 00:56:41.079 flowing around something after, such as the Earth. The idea 1126 00:56:41.159 --> 00:56:43.000 was to take a large mass object and insert it 1127 00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:47.199 into the energy feel after the aperture enough to disrupt it, 1128 00:56:47.239 --> 00:56:48.960 and this would allow me to break through and enter 1129 00:56:49.000 --> 00:56:51.119 back into my own dimension. I interpreted it as the 1130 00:56:51.159 --> 00:56:54.400 Moon pushing back into the Van Allen radiation belts. Whoa, 1131 00:56:55.039 --> 00:56:57.840 and these here pictures over here, you can see that 1132 00:56:57.880 --> 00:56:59.639 this is the Van Allen radiation belts. You can see 1133 00:56:59.639 --> 00:57:01.679 like there's an aperture where the energy comes in and 1134 00:57:01.719 --> 00:57:07.119 it expands around the Earth here as well. And yeah, 1135 00:57:08.199 --> 00:57:12.639 so this is kind of what I was what I 1136 00:57:12.679 --> 00:57:13.079 was seeing. 1137 00:57:13.760 --> 00:57:17.440 You know, I feel like most people like Jacob he 1138 00:57:17.480 --> 00:57:20.119 says that he doesn't dream. I think there was actually 1139 00:57:20.159 --> 00:57:22.760 a study done to where it says most people actually, 1140 00:57:22.800 --> 00:57:23.880 like all people. 1141 00:57:23.639 --> 00:57:26.280 Dream all the time, isn't that? Is that correct? 1142 00:57:26.320 --> 00:57:28.360 And then like some people just can't remember it, or 1143 00:57:28.360 --> 00:57:30.159 they can't interpret it, or they have nothing to really 1144 00:57:30.159 --> 00:57:33.280 compare it to. So then it just kind of gets 1145 00:57:33.320 --> 00:57:35.599 lost in the fold, because what are you gonna do 1146 00:57:35.920 --> 00:57:40.239 with you know, Like if a pink elephant comes up 1147 00:57:40.280 --> 00:57:42.320 and hands you a basketball and says that this is 1148 00:57:42.360 --> 00:57:44.639 the child of God and you need to deliver it 1149 00:57:44.639 --> 00:57:48.480 to Neptune so that the little baby geese on planet 1150 00:57:48.519 --> 00:57:50.920 Pluto don't die, It's like, what are you gonna do 1151 00:57:50.960 --> 00:57:54.239 with that information? You know? But for you to be 1152 00:57:54.280 --> 00:57:58.440 able to remember that, interpret it, draw it down. I 1153 00:57:58.480 --> 00:58:02.039 think that that goes like that is ultimately the ultimate 1154 00:58:02.079 --> 00:58:06.039 benefit to documenting your dreams, and it's getting you more 1155 00:58:06.199 --> 00:58:09.639 comfortable with, you know, understanding what's going on there. And 1156 00:58:10.119 --> 00:58:12.039 I've been saying for the longest time that I really 1157 00:58:12.079 --> 00:58:13.599 need to start documenting my dreams. 1158 00:58:13.639 --> 00:58:14.800 I know some people. 1159 00:58:16.000 --> 00:58:18.719 Like record them with their voice memos app like in 1160 00:58:19.519 --> 00:58:21.320 their phone as soon as they wake up. Do you 1161 00:58:21.400 --> 00:58:24.039 find that it actually works better for you recording it 1162 00:58:24.119 --> 00:58:26.599 voice memo or or literally writing it down. 1163 00:58:26.880 --> 00:58:29.039 Literally writing it down. What I do is I'll send 1164 00:58:29.079 --> 00:58:31.199 myself a WhatsApp message because I find it just the 1165 00:58:31.199 --> 00:58:33.559 easiest way just to set you know, to write it down, 1166 00:58:33.800 --> 00:58:36.800 send myself a WhatsApp message, even if it's just the 1167 00:58:36.840 --> 00:58:40.320 basic concept of what the dream was. And then during 1168 00:58:40.360 --> 00:58:44.679 the day I spend a lot of time actually diving 1169 00:58:44.719 --> 00:58:47.719 back into the dream and remembering more of those details, 1170 00:58:47.719 --> 00:58:49.800 you know, because I have the framework, then I can 1171 00:58:49.840 --> 00:58:51.840 go back and work out those details of exactly what 1172 00:58:51.920 --> 00:58:54.639 it was or what it is, and and that seems 1173 00:58:54.639 --> 00:58:57.800 to that, that seems to happen, you know. When I 1174 00:58:57.880 --> 00:58:59.239 do that, that's the best way to do it. But 1175 00:58:59.239 --> 00:59:04.599 there's sometimes I will say two days ago, I I 1176 00:59:04.639 --> 00:59:10.239 had such a hard, hard day because and this sounds crazy, 1177 00:59:10.280 --> 00:59:12.079 and people will be like, are you sure you should 1178 00:59:12.079 --> 00:59:14.880 go see a psychiatrist. I couldn't discern what was my 1179 00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:18.239 real memories or what were my dream memories? And this 1180 00:59:18.360 --> 00:59:21.000 was on this was yeah, this was yesterday? Was it yesterday? 1181 00:59:21.039 --> 00:59:21.119 No? 1182 00:59:21.039 --> 00:59:23.360 No, it was Saturday. Sorry, it was Saturday that I 1183 00:59:23.559 --> 00:59:26.639 had issues trying to discern what my real memories were 1184 00:59:26.920 --> 00:59:32.280 and what my dream memories were. Everything seemed so interlocked 1185 00:59:32.280 --> 00:59:34.519 and it seemed like like these dream memories, I'm like 1186 00:59:34.719 --> 00:59:36.440 they were just out of reach. Though it was just 1187 00:59:36.480 --> 00:59:38.760 like I could see it. It was just as if 1188 00:59:38.800 --> 00:59:40.480 you squinted your eyes and you can kind of see something. 1189 00:59:40.480 --> 00:59:41.320 I'm like, what am I seeing? 1190 00:59:41.320 --> 00:59:42.039 What was that? 1191 00:59:42.079 --> 00:59:44.159 What was that? I'm trying to remember? Like did that 1192 00:59:44.239 --> 00:59:46.519 really happen to me? Or was that from a dream? 1193 00:59:46.800 --> 00:59:48.679 Literally that was me the whole day, and it was 1194 00:59:48.719 --> 00:59:51.840 kind of like this whole day of deja vus, or 1195 00:59:51.960 --> 00:59:55.039 as they call dejah revey. Dejah vreve is when you 1196 00:59:55.119 --> 00:59:58.400 have that recall of something that has happened but it's 1197 00:59:58.440 --> 01:00:00.000 in real life, but it's actually from your dream. 1198 01:00:01.039 --> 01:00:03.079 Oh that's right. I have heard of that term. 1199 01:00:03.159 --> 01:00:06.400 Okay, that is a strange feeling, dude, I and I 1200 01:00:06.559 --> 01:00:09.960 felt that way before, you know, like just waking up 1201 01:00:10.000 --> 01:00:12.760 and going throughout the day and thinking about the dream 1202 01:00:12.800 --> 01:00:15.400 all throughout at night, and then you know, it's like 1203 01:00:15.599 --> 01:00:19.280 there's this weird crossover kind of of effect because it's 1204 01:00:19.320 --> 01:00:22.119 not always like some crazy thing that happens in a dream. 1205 01:00:22.159 --> 01:00:25.719 Sometimes it literally could just be like a normal day, 1206 01:00:26.159 --> 01:00:28.960 you know, but maybe one or two weird things happen 1207 01:00:29.199 --> 01:00:32.000 that you don't even know that they're weird in the moment, 1208 01:00:32.159 --> 01:00:34.239 but then you wake up and you're like, oh, that 1209 01:00:34.239 --> 01:00:37.559 that actually was pretty weird. Like your instance, like you 1210 01:00:37.599 --> 01:00:39.760 woke up as an eleven year old black kid and 1211 01:00:39.800 --> 01:00:41.119 you're trying to convince. 1212 01:00:40.800 --> 01:00:42.719 Everybody that you're a forty year old dude. 1213 01:00:43.119 --> 01:00:45.159 It's like that. That kind of shit. 1214 01:00:45.239 --> 01:00:48.639 I love that trippy kind of stuff because it is 1215 01:00:48.679 --> 01:00:52.440 a part of us. And I mean I don't I 1216 01:00:53.039 --> 01:00:55.159 personally find a lot of value in dreams, and that's 1217 01:00:55.159 --> 01:00:57.280 why I try and recall them as much as possible. 1218 01:00:57.320 --> 01:00:59.679 That's why I try to meditate as much as possible, 1219 01:01:00.599 --> 01:01:04.000 and why I like to trip major balls as much 1220 01:01:04.000 --> 01:01:07.519 as possible, because that's where you're gonna get most of 1221 01:01:07.559 --> 01:01:08.519 your bang for your buck. 1222 01:01:08.599 --> 01:01:11.320 In there is that something that you've ever uh meandered 1223 01:01:11.360 --> 01:01:12.360 with with. 1224 01:01:13.119 --> 01:01:18.280 So for me, it's just just like I love to 1225 01:01:18.480 --> 01:01:21.119 sleep because of my dreams. It's because I go off 1226 01:01:21.159 --> 01:01:24.800 into another world, you know. I I've played with uh 1227 01:01:24.840 --> 01:01:31.119 with mushrooms and ayahuasca here in Mexico, but for for 1228 01:01:31.280 --> 01:01:34.239 mostly and and you know, but before I moved down 1229 01:01:34.239 --> 01:01:36.719 to Mexico, I was I was micro dosing and that 1230 01:01:36.760 --> 01:01:39.719 really helped clear things up as well, which which is 1231 01:01:39.719 --> 01:01:42.119 something I'd love to get back into, is get back 1232 01:01:42.119 --> 01:01:47.679 into micro dosing mushrooms. It really cleared my mind. But 1233 01:01:47.920 --> 01:01:49.840 trying to find that here, finds find something good is 1234 01:01:49.840 --> 01:01:53.000 something I haven't done yet. But I've done ayahuasca here 1235 01:01:53.039 --> 01:01:56.599 and that was interesting. But it was through a through 1236 01:01:56.639 --> 01:02:00.840 a church of all things, sent the downy Iwa Church. 1237 01:02:00.880 --> 01:02:04.760 So it was very strict, very formal, not really kind 1238 01:02:04.760 --> 01:02:07.320 of you know, work on your stuff kind of. It 1239 01:02:07.519 --> 01:02:10.960 definitely work on your stuff, but you can't go trip 1240 01:02:11.039 --> 01:02:13.960 balls even though you're tripping ball. So that sounds strange. 1241 01:02:14.000 --> 01:02:17.119 Like we had to sit women on one side, men 1242 01:02:17.159 --> 01:02:19.679 on the other were sitting outside, and we got rattles 1243 01:02:19.880 --> 01:02:24.400 and we're singing these these church hymns, church songs, but 1244 01:02:24.480 --> 01:02:27.960 all in Spanish, and I'm I'm tripping balls and I'm like, 1245 01:02:28.360 --> 01:02:30.199 oh my God. And then I'm closing my eyes and 1246 01:02:30.320 --> 01:02:32.199 kind of like okay, okay. And then they come over 1247 01:02:32.239 --> 01:02:34.119 and be like, no, no, no, no, you need to 1248 01:02:34.119 --> 01:02:35.639 work on your shit. Keep your eyes open. 1249 01:02:35.719 --> 01:02:38.159 What I have Jacob, have you ever heard of this? 1250 01:02:39.199 --> 01:02:39.800 I have not. 1251 01:02:40.760 --> 01:02:42.440 What kind of Is this a Christian church? 1252 01:02:43.920 --> 01:02:44.079 No? 1253 01:02:45.159 --> 01:02:50.000 I mean it is Christian, but it's also ayahuasca mixed together. 1254 01:02:50.039 --> 01:02:54.360 So it's like the shamanism mixed with Christianity in a church. 1255 01:02:55.360 --> 01:03:00.800 In the nineteen seventies, America had something that started spawn right, 1256 01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:05.880 you had little outreach programs the Church of LSD right 1257 01:03:05.960 --> 01:03:08.599 in the Church of Psilocybin and the Church of this. 1258 01:03:09.039 --> 01:03:12.679 And that's not just like something that's like internet folk lore. No, no, no, 1259 01:03:13.480 --> 01:03:16.639 you ever seen Forrest Gump. You remember that part where 1260 01:03:16.719 --> 01:03:21.519 Jenny introduced her boyfriend to Forrest when he had melevana 1261 01:03:21.519 --> 01:03:24.039 around his neck and he was a minister of the 1262 01:03:24.119 --> 01:03:26.800 Church of LSD. That wasn't just a movie thing. That 1263 01:03:26.920 --> 01:03:30.440 was like based off of something real. So like church 1264 01:03:30.599 --> 01:03:37.159 quote unquote doesn't necessarily mean christian However, I could imagine 1265 01:03:37.199 --> 01:03:43.880 a world where some offshoots of Christianity found some hallucinogenics 1266 01:03:43.920 --> 01:03:47.639 and tried blending the two to turn a profit. 1267 01:03:47.800 --> 01:03:50.360 That makes perfect sense to me, probably. 1268 01:03:49.880 --> 01:03:52.880 How most churches really started in the first place. I know, 1269 01:03:52.960 --> 01:03:55.599 we argue about that back and forth. I am a 1270 01:03:55.679 --> 01:03:58.960 firm believer that that is exactly why there was stained 1271 01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:02.360 glass windows, That's exactly why there was these big ass bells. 1272 01:04:02.400 --> 01:04:05.960 That's exactly why you would have the organ playing throughout 1273 01:04:06.159 --> 01:04:08.119 and just resonating throughout. 1274 01:04:07.760 --> 01:04:10.159 The entire church, just everybody. 1275 01:04:10.199 --> 01:04:13.000 Just taking in the organic e're the organic well I 1276 01:04:13.039 --> 01:04:16.079 guess it would be organic, but just taking in the 1277 01:04:16.760 --> 01:04:19.559 vibes that way. And of course you're going to see 1278 01:04:20.159 --> 01:04:22.960 angels probably come down, You're probably going to see God, 1279 01:04:23.000 --> 01:04:25.400 You're probably going to see Jesus whenever you're tripping balls 1280 01:04:25.599 --> 01:04:28.320 and you're set in the right mood kind of situation. 1281 01:04:28.639 --> 01:04:30.719 And we always talk about like what they found in 1282 01:04:30.800 --> 01:04:34.000 the old churches and the ergod within the chalices and 1283 01:04:34.039 --> 01:04:36.719 stuff like that. They were obviously even if they didn't 1284 01:04:36.760 --> 01:04:38.119 mean to trip balls, they were. 1285 01:04:39.559 --> 01:04:42.199 Yeah, But I mean the people there like, yeah, Ergot 1286 01:04:42.280 --> 01:04:47.239 was clearly what was at what was happening here? Then 1287 01:04:47.360 --> 01:04:51.280 like number one guy, I've heard screaming that was Bashar, 1288 01:04:51.920 --> 01:04:55.039 which like, let's consider the source. 1289 01:04:55.599 --> 01:04:59.159 No, No, the source is actually what you always like 1290 01:04:59.239 --> 01:05:01.920 to talk about is archaeological digs. 1291 01:05:02.480 --> 01:05:02.679 No. 1292 01:05:02.679 --> 01:05:07.480 No, they have source traces of Ergot in some chalices. 1293 01:05:07.519 --> 01:05:10.719 That doesn't mean that every single church was like doling 1294 01:05:10.760 --> 01:05:12.679 out hallucinogenic drugs to. 1295 01:05:12.679 --> 01:05:16.119 Their to their uh you know, congregation. 1296 01:05:16.519 --> 01:05:19.320 I'm not even saying that it was on purpose. Like, hey, 1297 01:05:19.360 --> 01:05:21.880 everybody will come to church, let's all trip balls. I 1298 01:05:21.920 --> 01:05:24.679 think that it was probably part of the ceremony because 1299 01:05:24.679 --> 01:05:27.239 if you look at it, most churches, before you got 1300 01:05:27.280 --> 01:05:31.280 into this whole non denominational sector of Christianity, most churches 1301 01:05:31.320 --> 01:05:34.320 were very like like, well there was I mean, yeah, 1302 01:05:34.400 --> 01:05:38.360 but a lot of churches were very like kind of uh, 1303 01:05:38.400 --> 01:05:41.280 structured in a very like in a in a very 1304 01:05:41.280 --> 01:05:44.480 structured way, likes that. So sure, whenever you would have 1305 01:05:44.519 --> 01:05:46.880 something structured like that, and I always think about like 1306 01:05:46.880 --> 01:05:49.920 the Catholic Church, for example, the Catholic Church is very 1307 01:05:50.079 --> 01:05:52.719 very like some people like to disagree with me whenever 1308 01:05:52.719 --> 01:05:54.599 I say this, I think it's very occult. And I 1309 01:05:54.639 --> 01:05:56.880 don't mean that necessarily in a bad way. I just 1310 01:05:56.920 --> 01:06:01.079 think that they're dealing with, uh, their own version of 1311 01:06:01.119 --> 01:06:02.400 witchcraft personally. 1312 01:06:03.559 --> 01:06:04.039 I mean, the. 1313 01:06:04.039 --> 01:06:07.280 Catholics are an easy target as far as to point 1314 01:06:07.280 --> 01:06:10.119 a finger at and say, look at this weird thing 1315 01:06:10.159 --> 01:06:13.679 they do that's evil, Like okay, fine, fine, fine, with 1316 01:06:13.760 --> 01:06:16.480 all the grain of salt attributed here. 1317 01:06:17.079 --> 01:06:19.360 What I mean is is that everything was on purpose, 1318 01:06:19.800 --> 01:06:22.280 and like whenever you're talking about the organ or the 1319 01:06:22.320 --> 01:06:25.679 stained glass, or the church bells or the pews or 1320 01:06:25.719 --> 01:06:27.280 any of this kind of stuff. I think that it 1321 01:06:27.360 --> 01:06:30.039 was all really on purpose, and I think that a 1322 01:06:30.079 --> 01:06:32.800 lot of that has been just lost through our time 1323 01:06:33.159 --> 01:06:35.000 and we just look at it like, oh yeah, that's 1324 01:06:35.000 --> 01:06:38.360 beautiful stained glass. Oh that's a beautiful organ. Oh that's 1325 01:06:38.400 --> 01:06:40.480 awesome that you play that music in the background. I 1326 01:06:40.519 --> 01:06:42.800 think that it had a lot more meaning. And so 1327 01:06:43.000 --> 01:06:46.639 whenever you then introduce or at least according to our 1328 01:06:47.760 --> 01:06:51.320 newer understanding as far as ergot and challicism whatnot, it 1329 01:06:51.400 --> 01:06:53.599 makes a lot more sense. That's all I try and 1330 01:06:53.639 --> 01:06:57.599 say about that that like it would be literally like 1331 01:06:57.639 --> 01:07:00.000 a heavenly experience every time you went to church. 1332 01:07:00.639 --> 01:07:02.639 All right, let me ask you this real shit. 1333 01:07:03.400 --> 01:07:08.000 So let's just assume that your boy Billiam Shakespeare was 1334 01:07:08.039 --> 01:07:13.199 a real dude. Yes, I know there's controversy around that sentence, 1335 01:07:13.360 --> 01:07:16.559 Just for two cents, for just for a second, pretend 1336 01:07:17.000 --> 01:07:18.599 your boy billion was a real dude. 1337 01:07:18.760 --> 01:07:22.960 Okay, writ in plays, acting and shit the whole nine. Okay. 1338 01:07:24.679 --> 01:07:28.000 They found a what's it called brosier or something like 1339 01:07:28.039 --> 01:07:32.800 that that basically you burn incense inside of. They found 1340 01:07:32.960 --> 01:07:37.800 hemp inside of it. So your boy Billium was burning 1341 01:07:37.920 --> 01:07:41.599 hemp in his thing cool. Does that mean that billion 1342 01:07:41.719 --> 01:07:44.440 was a stoner? Or does that mean that we just 1343 01:07:44.480 --> 01:07:47.079 found hemp in one of the things in his house? 1344 01:07:47.960 --> 01:07:50.320 I mean, was it in his bowl or his cup? 1345 01:07:51.719 --> 01:07:52.519 It's a brosier. 1346 01:07:52.639 --> 01:07:55.679 It's a thing that's burned like it's like a think 1347 01:07:55.679 --> 01:07:56.480 of this as like. 1348 01:07:56.320 --> 01:07:58.519 Like an incense bull that hangs from the you know, 1349 01:07:58.599 --> 01:08:01.000 sometimes they hang, sometimes they have like a holder for it. 1350 01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:03.840 It's just okay, that is sort of like the sensy 1351 01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:06.000 wax burners of the day and age. 1352 01:08:06.519 --> 01:08:09.400 I love me a good sensey, but that's the same 1353 01:08:09.480 --> 01:08:11.440 kind of thing that was going on within the churches. 1354 01:08:11.480 --> 01:08:13.880 They would go and they would ladle that shit with. 1355 01:08:13.880 --> 01:08:16.119 The smoke and everything, and some people have suggested that 1356 01:08:16.159 --> 01:08:16.800 it was weed. 1357 01:08:17.399 --> 01:08:21.039 Okay, so pause, pause, They found traces of some hemp 1358 01:08:21.319 --> 01:08:24.840 stems inside of Billiam Shakespeare's thing. 1359 01:08:25.359 --> 01:08:28.399 Does that mean that he was a four to twenty blaze, 1360 01:08:28.479 --> 01:08:29.319 you know what's up? 1361 01:08:29.439 --> 01:08:34.039 He was a full on stoner or they found some stems? 1362 01:08:34.600 --> 01:08:35.600 Which one is true? 1363 01:08:36.520 --> 01:08:39.159 I mean, I guess I would need more context to 1364 01:08:39.159 --> 01:08:41.840 try and figure out exactly what it was. But you're 1365 01:08:41.880 --> 01:08:45.039 talking about literally within an incense holder. I'm not talking 1366 01:08:45.159 --> 01:08:49.760 you're there's a difference between ingesting something than it is 1367 01:08:49.840 --> 01:08:52.800 if I was to light up some incense. 1368 01:08:53.319 --> 01:08:54.680 It's smoking it, is it not? 1369 01:08:55.680 --> 01:08:57.640 Is it in the incense? Or did he have a 1370 01:08:57.720 --> 01:08:58.279 roach clip? 1371 01:08:59.199 --> 01:08:59.359 No? 1372 01:08:59.359 --> 01:09:02.000 No, no, I mean I know, as far as I know, 1373 01:09:02.239 --> 01:09:04.680 as far as the research I've done there earlier, what 1374 01:09:04.680 --> 01:09:07.920 you're saying something was like it's just like a contact high. 1375 01:09:07.920 --> 01:09:09.920 Than what you're saying is like the contact high. You know, 1376 01:09:09.960 --> 01:09:12.920 he's he's burning and it's it's in the air, and 1377 01:09:13.000 --> 01:09:15.439 possibly he's breathing it in which. 1378 01:09:15.199 --> 01:09:17.119 They had cultures that did that with him. 1379 01:09:17.159 --> 01:09:19.319 But beside the point, my point is, all right, they 1380 01:09:19.399 --> 01:09:22.399 found him clearly William Shakespeare was the stoner. 1381 01:09:22.479 --> 01:09:25.399 Okay, that's not a necessarily true sentence. 1382 01:09:25.520 --> 01:09:30.000 It may be not necessarily as well as it's like 1383 01:09:30.199 --> 01:09:33.840 Ergot was found in certain chalices and certain churches. 1384 01:09:34.239 --> 01:09:35.720 They were tripping in the church. 1385 01:09:35.640 --> 01:09:38.439 Like okay, some may have been, but like that's not 1386 01:09:38.520 --> 01:09:40.800 like a rule of thumb, you feel. 1387 01:09:40.560 --> 01:09:46.760 Me, not that they want you knowing, Okay, I don't know. 1388 01:09:46.800 --> 01:09:50.239 I just I feel like that that is something that 1389 01:09:50.640 --> 01:09:53.279 a lot of people just overlook and that it's not 1390 01:09:53.520 --> 01:09:57.880 really that necessary of like a facet of the story 1391 01:09:58.039 --> 01:10:02.439 like to me, if i'm for example, let me give you. 1392 01:10:02.560 --> 01:10:05.359 How about I try you on an example. All right, 1393 01:10:05.840 --> 01:10:09.600 so let's say I don't know, let's just use a 1394 01:10:09.640 --> 01:10:13.399 more modern example. Let's say your mother is at your house. Okay, 1395 01:10:13.680 --> 01:10:15.159 I know I love your mother. I'm not about to 1396 01:10:15.159 --> 01:10:18.039 shit talk about. So your mother is in your house 1397 01:10:18.359 --> 01:10:22.319 and she just so happens to be drinking a cup 1398 01:10:22.359 --> 01:10:26.279 of coke, for example, right, and and then. 1399 01:10:26.319 --> 01:10:28.720 She just she falls down, she passes out. 1400 01:10:28.680 --> 01:10:31.039 And nobody knows what the hell's wrong with her, right, 1401 01:10:31.159 --> 01:10:34.000 And she doesn't have any history of any kind of 1402 01:10:34.000 --> 01:10:36.399 problems with her health or anything like that. And so 1403 01:10:36.479 --> 01:10:38.039 most people would be like, all right, well, what was 1404 01:10:38.079 --> 01:10:41.159 she drinking? Right, And you just say, oh, she was 1405 01:10:41.199 --> 01:10:43.039 just drinking coke like I wasn't really that big of 1406 01:10:43.079 --> 01:10:44.279 a deal or anything like that. 1407 01:10:44.800 --> 01:10:48.560 But then all of the the you know, they. 1408 01:10:48.640 --> 01:10:50.960 They get all the tests back and they find out 1409 01:10:50.960 --> 01:10:53.000 what was wrong with her body. Oh my god, it 1410 01:10:53.039 --> 01:10:55.760 looks like she actually had some form of cancer. 1411 01:10:56.239 --> 01:10:58.279 But we also found. 1412 01:10:58.000 --> 01:11:01.239 Within that drink that there was some kind of poison 1413 01:11:01.359 --> 01:11:02.640 also at the same time, so. 1414 01:11:02.560 --> 01:11:04.159 You could say that she died of cancer. 1415 01:11:04.319 --> 01:11:05.840 But then you could also say that she died of 1416 01:11:05.880 --> 01:11:08.119 the poisoning that was also in the cup. My point 1417 01:11:08.159 --> 01:11:12.319 here is that just because you find some ergot in 1418 01:11:12.359 --> 01:11:15.199 a cup doesn't necessarily mean that everybody was doing it. 1419 01:11:15.520 --> 01:11:18.640 But it had to be a reason behind it. 1420 01:11:18.960 --> 01:11:21.720 Like, it's not just something you can just glaze over 1421 01:11:22.039 --> 01:11:24.439 and be like, well, that one person at that one church, 1422 01:11:24.479 --> 01:11:27.439 at that one point in time, they were tripping I'm 1423 01:11:27.479 --> 01:11:29.880 not even out there to say that everybody that ever 1424 01:11:29.880 --> 01:11:32.479 went to church back in the day was always tripping balls. 1425 01:11:32.880 --> 01:11:37.039 My point is is that maybe they were, and maybe 1426 01:11:37.600 --> 01:11:39.760 that's something that is missing from the church. 1427 01:11:39.880 --> 01:11:42.319 Dare I even say, bro, if you were to find 1428 01:11:42.479 --> 01:11:47.520 ergotten every chalice from every church, then like, okay, yeah, 1429 01:11:47.600 --> 01:11:50.199 I see what you're saying. If it's one chalice from 1430 01:11:50.319 --> 01:11:54.680 one church that showed trace evidence of it's like I 1431 01:11:54.720 --> 01:11:57.399 see the string on the coreboard, but it's a string. 1432 01:11:59.239 --> 01:12:01.640 Well okay, all right, Well I don't know. I mean, 1433 01:12:01.640 --> 01:12:03.399 it's just yeah, I would like to look a little 1434 01:12:03.439 --> 01:12:04.039 bit more into that. 1435 01:12:04.119 --> 01:12:07.079 I bet you there's probably more than one tell us 1436 01:12:07.079 --> 01:12:08.039 your two cents on this. 1437 01:12:09.520 --> 01:12:11.600 It's a topic I haven't gotten it ever gotten into, 1438 01:12:11.760 --> 01:12:14.159 you know, trying to say that and I agree with you. 1439 01:12:14.239 --> 01:12:16.520 If every chilice had her got in it, then you 1440 01:12:16.520 --> 01:12:20.840 could say okay. But if it's randomly, you know, one here, 1441 01:12:20.960 --> 01:12:25.680 one there, a couple, there's not enough evidence to say 1442 01:12:25.720 --> 01:12:28.319 that it's it is what you think it is. 1443 01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:32.279 Okay, I got you right here, I got But that. 1444 01:12:32.279 --> 01:12:35.680 Doesn't detract from the cases, especially if it's like a 1445 01:12:35.720 --> 01:12:39.720 famous priest who like wrote a famous work, come to 1446 01:12:39.800 --> 01:12:43.159 find out there was ergot in his chalice, Like, okay, 1447 01:12:44.760 --> 01:12:45.399 let's talk. 1448 01:12:45.600 --> 01:12:47.760 You know, I love how this one is titled the 1449 01:12:47.800 --> 01:12:49.359 Psychedelic Eucharist. 1450 01:12:49.439 --> 01:12:51.960 But so I just gift. 1451 01:12:52.399 --> 01:12:55.640 Yeah, I just typed in Chalices with ergotten Church and 1452 01:12:55.720 --> 01:12:58.039 it says this is the AI answer to it. 1453 01:12:58.279 --> 01:13:01.720 And Jacob, I know that's your buddy, and it says yes. 1454 01:13:01.760 --> 01:13:06.680 There it says, yes, Jacob hates AI so much. 1455 01:13:06.920 --> 01:13:09.399 It says yes, there is evidence that early Christians drank 1456 01:13:09.479 --> 01:13:13.199 ergot wine and that some chalices used in churches may 1457 01:13:13.279 --> 01:13:16.680 have contained ergot. Chalice is with ergot remains, it says 1458 01:13:16.680 --> 01:13:20.640 a second century BC. Damn, that goes back a little ways. 1459 01:13:21.000 --> 01:13:24.600 A second century BC chalice was found to contain microscopic 1460 01:13:24.640 --> 01:13:28.960 traces of ergot and beer. Ancient remains with er good traces. 1461 01:13:29.199 --> 01:13:31.840 There's an analysis of ancient remains have found traces of 1462 01:13:31.920 --> 01:13:33.119 ergot and drinking cups. 1463 01:13:34.479 --> 01:13:35.840 Then there's ergot funguy. 1464 01:13:36.000 --> 01:13:40.039 Ergot fungi produce produces psychedelic effects, and LSD is derived 1465 01:13:40.039 --> 01:13:40.880 from ergot. 1466 01:13:41.600 --> 01:13:42.439 Damn, I didn't know that. 1467 01:13:42.560 --> 01:13:49.760 So a chalice from a church shown microscopic evidence of 1468 01:13:50.319 --> 01:13:52.439 a yeast. 1469 01:13:51.600 --> 01:13:55.119 That grew into ergot from beer. 1470 01:13:56.199 --> 01:13:59.800 Some child, not one chalice. It did say some chalices 1471 01:14:00.079 --> 01:14:01.000 used in churches. 1472 01:14:01.399 --> 01:14:05.479 But that's a loose term some though. What does some mean? 1473 01:14:05.640 --> 01:14:08.159 You know, like five two or is that fifty? 1474 01:14:08.640 --> 01:14:09.520 Yeah? 1475 01:14:09.560 --> 01:14:11.720 Well, if you check out this vice article, it says 1476 01:14:11.760 --> 01:14:15.880 early Christians might have been high on hallucinogenic communication or communion. 1477 01:14:16.079 --> 01:14:19.560 What about vice? Vice from time to time depends on 1478 01:14:19.640 --> 01:14:20.119 the article. 1479 01:14:20.279 --> 01:14:23.359 Some of them are like clearly biased, some of them 1480 01:14:23.399 --> 01:14:25.039 are like really in depth. 1481 01:14:26.520 --> 01:14:28.279 Vice is one of those hit or missed due. 1482 01:14:28.560 --> 01:14:31.880 Okay, and this is perfect because for what I'm trying 1483 01:14:31.920 --> 01:14:35.039 to say here, it says. The bottom line is that 1484 01:14:35.079 --> 01:14:38.880 it's far from absurd and perhaps entirely reasonable to think 1485 01:14:38.920 --> 01:14:43.359 that some early Greek speaking Christians had hallucinogens in their 1486 01:14:43.479 --> 01:14:44.479 ritual wines. 1487 01:14:44.880 --> 01:14:46.159 I think That's what I was trying to say. 1488 01:14:46.159 --> 01:14:47.760 As far as the stained glass and all the organ 1489 01:14:47.800 --> 01:14:49.680 and everything, I think it was just part of their ritual. 1490 01:14:50.319 --> 01:14:55.239 And it says arn't. With Vatican archives, Greco Roman text 1491 01:14:55.359 --> 01:14:59.199 and the innovations of archaeochemistry, a new discipline that can 1492 01:14:59.239 --> 01:15:02.479 isolate the exis chemical makeup of ancestral food and drink. 1493 01:15:05.359 --> 01:15:09.000 Mara Rescue, I guess that's a person traces the rich 1494 01:15:09.039 --> 01:15:11.479 and fine history of spiked wine through the ages. He 1495 01:15:11.560 --> 01:15:15.359 suggests that the wild parties of Greek mystery sex, which 1496 01:15:15.359 --> 01:15:18.399 occurred thousands of years before and at the time of Jesus, 1497 01:15:18.479 --> 01:15:22.680 were powered by wines, likely imbued with drugs, later making 1498 01:15:22.720 --> 01:15:27.479 their way into Christianity's early sacred cups. It's a controversial 1499 01:15:27.479 --> 01:15:30.079 claim to make the communion wine has been a fixture 1500 01:15:30.079 --> 01:15:32.720 of Christian worship since the Last Supper and stands as 1501 01:15:32.720 --> 01:15:34.800 a core ritual for its two point five billion adher 1502 01:15:34.840 --> 01:15:38.119 It's around the world, and it says called to sip 1503 01:15:38.159 --> 01:15:41.319 the wine and invite the presence of Jesus. Christians believe 1504 01:15:41.399 --> 01:15:44.199 that the wine becomes the blood of Christ metaphorically or 1505 01:15:44.239 --> 01:15:48.840 literally during the Eucharist phase of a church service, when 1506 01:15:48.960 --> 01:15:53.000 special biblical blessings are cast on the drink by the vicar, 1507 01:15:53.079 --> 01:15:57.119 priest or pastor, and of course, the vast majority of 1508 01:15:57.199 --> 01:16:02.039 not all, of Christianity's predominant sex would lay strong injunctions 1509 01:16:02.039 --> 01:16:06.079 against hallucinogenic drugs all together. But as researchers continue digging 1510 01:16:06.159 --> 01:16:09.000 up the boozy remnants of our ancient past, it may 1511 01:16:09.079 --> 01:16:11.279 well be that the church is in for a big 1512 01:16:11.319 --> 01:16:16.760 and truly shattering surprise. So that all right, So that's 1513 01:16:16.760 --> 01:16:17.920 more than one church, bro. 1514 01:16:18.560 --> 01:16:21.600 Now, okay, before we go too far on this, I've 1515 01:16:21.640 --> 01:16:23.520 always and I want to bring this up. I've always 1516 01:16:23.560 --> 01:16:27.199 had an issue with you know, the you know, the 1517 01:16:27.319 --> 01:16:30.680 the cup of wine and the well, let's just say 1518 01:16:30.680 --> 01:16:32.880 it the blood of Christ and the body of Christ, 1519 01:16:33.199 --> 01:16:35.920 you know, like the symbolic and they said literally so 1520 01:16:36.119 --> 01:16:39.800 they think that they're drinking the blood and they're eating 1521 01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:42.399 the body. You know. That is very bro. 1522 01:16:42.439 --> 01:16:45.279 I'm about to really and I'm about to really fuck 1523 01:16:45.319 --> 01:16:47.960 you up here on this one. There was actually because 1524 01:16:47.960 --> 01:16:50.640 there are people that literally believe that whenever they drink it, 1525 01:16:50.680 --> 01:16:54.119 they imagine it's literally Jesus's blood. Whenever they eat the cracker, 1526 01:16:54.199 --> 01:16:58.159 it's literally Jesus' flesh so much so that there was 1527 01:16:58.359 --> 01:17:02.399 DNA like test done because this one person they like, 1528 01:17:02.520 --> 01:17:05.119 had like some weird looking shit bro like, and they 1529 01:17:05.119 --> 01:17:07.560 were like trying to test and be like, oh my god, 1530 01:17:08.000 --> 01:17:10.640 is there like something weird. They wanted to get their 1531 01:17:10.640 --> 01:17:15.159 shit tested, like their actual feces tested, right, yeah, And 1532 01:17:15.319 --> 01:17:20.600 they found that there was literal human flesh inside of 1533 01:17:20.640 --> 01:17:23.239 their shit, not not of their own. I'm talking about 1534 01:17:23.279 --> 01:17:28.159 like this shit was this literal shit was manifested into 1535 01:17:28.520 --> 01:17:32.279 human flesh. And so, I mean, if we're talking about 1536 01:17:32.279 --> 01:17:35.239 weird manifestations, that's definitely one of them. That if you 1537 01:17:35.319 --> 01:17:38.479 eat the cracker that is of Jesus, could you possibly 1538 01:17:38.560 --> 01:17:39.920 manifest it in your shit? 1539 01:17:40.319 --> 01:17:41.000 That's crazy. 1540 01:17:41.079 --> 01:17:45.199 Pause pause, real quick, though, how much McDonald's meat is 1541 01:17:45.239 --> 01:17:46.279 actually human meat? 1542 01:17:46.359 --> 01:17:48.279 We don't know, We don't care. 1543 01:17:48.520 --> 01:17:51.319 That's a real talking point, right number one. Number two, 1544 01:17:52.600 --> 01:17:56.279 it's only the Catholics to believe that. Like, if I 1545 01:17:56.399 --> 01:17:59.039 go to my church and they decide to do some 1546 01:17:59.079 --> 01:18:01.319 sort of a commune thing with the little cup and 1547 01:18:01.399 --> 01:18:05.119 the little cracker, no one in the building believes this 1548 01:18:05.279 --> 01:18:08.960 is actually Jesus's skin and blood going into our bodies. 1549 01:18:09.319 --> 01:18:13.399 Only one denomination believes that shit, but like they believe 1550 01:18:13.479 --> 01:18:16.640 that shit, they really do. 1551 01:18:18.039 --> 01:18:20.920 Yeah, that was a disturbing thing for me, you know, 1552 01:18:21.039 --> 01:18:23.319 growing up, And like I know, I wouldn't say to 1553 01:18:23.359 --> 01:18:24.880 growing up, I would say it was like when I 1554 01:18:24.920 --> 01:18:27.880 started questioning things, because at that time, you just at 1555 01:18:27.920 --> 01:18:30.439 that age, I wasn't questioning anything. Yep, yep, this is 1556 01:18:30.439 --> 01:18:32.359 what I'm doing. This I'm doing And then you start to, 1557 01:18:32.720 --> 01:18:34.840 you know, stand back and take a look at it, 1558 01:18:34.880 --> 01:18:38.079 and you're like, the blood and the body, you know, 1559 01:18:38.199 --> 01:18:42.359 what the hell this is very you know, vampiric, you know, 1560 01:18:42.479 --> 01:18:45.319 like I'm a vampire, I'm drinking the blood, I'm a cannibal, 1561 01:18:45.359 --> 01:18:52.640 I'm eating the body. Like that's a little crazy. It's ritualistic, yes, right, 1562 01:18:53.439 --> 01:18:59.000 But to ship out Christ? Is that what we're saying here, 1563 01:18:59.119 --> 01:19:01.239 is that what we're going with a legend. 1564 01:19:01.399 --> 01:19:04.520 Have the issue with it, bro I've never gathered it, 1565 01:19:04.600 --> 01:19:07.039 I've never understood it, I've never agreed with it. I 1566 01:19:07.079 --> 01:19:10.079 was raised Catholic until I was about twelve, thirteen, fourteen 1567 01:19:10.159 --> 01:19:12.159 years old, and I went my own way with it. 1568 01:19:12.239 --> 01:19:16.279 I'm what I would consider non denominational these days. But 1569 01:19:17.039 --> 01:19:19.479 I have an issue with the organized religion as a whole. 1570 01:19:19.880 --> 01:19:23.279 But you know all that to say, I get it. 1571 01:19:23.399 --> 01:19:28.920 I understand. I have respect for the Catholic faith being 1572 01:19:29.039 --> 01:19:34.279 the oldest and originators of quote unquote Christianity. Like I 1573 01:19:34.359 --> 01:19:37.359 give props to the old heads if you will, you 1574 01:19:37.439 --> 01:19:37.920 know what I mean. 1575 01:19:38.000 --> 01:19:40.399 But like, doesn't that kind of lend a little credence 1576 01:19:40.439 --> 01:19:43.399 to you? Are what you eat? 1577 01:19:44.479 --> 01:19:48.079 You become christ conscious by eating the foreskin dogs. 1578 01:19:48.079 --> 01:19:50.680 I'm not saying what the fuck? No, I mean, I 1579 01:19:50.680 --> 01:19:51.079 don't know. 1580 01:19:51.159 --> 01:19:54.880 You tell me think about foreskin finding foreskin get brought 1581 01:19:54.920 --> 01:19:55.800 up in this conversation. 1582 01:19:56.199 --> 01:19:59.079 That's why I don't know. I'm just I don't know. 1583 01:19:59.319 --> 01:20:01.640 Well, no, I mean, it's just you know, there are 1584 01:20:01.720 --> 01:20:04.359 certain people that say that if you if you pray 1585 01:20:04.439 --> 01:20:07.479 over your food, then it will provide better nourishment for you, 1586 01:20:07.560 --> 01:20:10.119 right it kind of in that's in that sector the 1587 01:20:10.159 --> 01:20:14.680 same way if you the like we Jacob, I told 1588 01:20:14.720 --> 01:20:17.479 you about this one time, but it was like a 1589 01:20:17.520 --> 01:20:21.159 couple of months ago, Rye that I have another podcast 1590 01:20:21.159 --> 01:20:24.880 called Meta Mysteries and there if you look up at 1591 01:20:25.000 --> 01:20:27.960 that it's I can't remember what the hell it's called now, 1592 01:20:28.000 --> 01:20:31.000 But essentially, if you hold like a cup of water 1593 01:20:31.159 --> 01:20:34.479 in your hands, or like a container of water and 1594 01:20:34.840 --> 01:20:38.880 you just close your eyes and try and basically energize 1595 01:20:38.920 --> 01:20:43.560 this water with your own thoughts, I guess, and then 1596 01:20:43.600 --> 01:20:46.239 you put it in the freezer and whenever it comes out, 1597 01:20:46.720 --> 01:20:49.239 it's gonna have some kind of weird shape. And whenever 1598 01:20:49.279 --> 01:20:51.800 I did mine, so my last name starts with an M, 1599 01:20:52.319 --> 01:20:54.239 and I took it out and it was in the 1600 01:20:54.239 --> 01:20:57.279 shape of an M. Right, And so I think that 1601 01:20:57.439 --> 01:21:02.520 literally our thoughts came and manifest, if you like, if 1602 01:21:02.560 --> 01:21:06.079 you're trying to make that happen. And I only bring 1603 01:21:06.159 --> 01:21:10.399 up that one person who found possible Jesus flesh and 1604 01:21:10.479 --> 01:21:12.000 their ship just as an example. 1605 01:21:12.079 --> 01:21:14.199 Really, but but that takes this takes me to like 1606 01:21:14.279 --> 01:21:16.239 Kenneth Copeland. I don't know if you know who Kenneth 1607 01:21:16.279 --> 01:21:16.720 Copeland is. 1608 01:21:16.720 --> 01:21:20.840 Oh yeah, lunatic, crazy, familiar with you boy where he's 1609 01:21:21.119 --> 01:21:25.079 he's blood letting himself and then they're drinking the like, like, 1610 01:21:25.640 --> 01:21:26.079 is there. 1611 01:21:25.920 --> 01:21:29.800 A possibility, Let's just is there a possibility that the wafer, 1612 01:21:29.880 --> 01:21:36.279 the Communion wafer, actually is human? You know, maybe there 1613 01:21:36.319 --> 01:21:41.399 is some human parts to it for this this specific religion, 1614 01:21:41.439 --> 01:21:42.760 you know, and it's kind of like here you go 1615 01:21:43.159 --> 01:21:46.159 eat this eat this and maybe, like I'm not trying 1616 01:21:46.159 --> 01:21:48.119 to well, I am trying to explain away. I'm like 1617 01:21:48.119 --> 01:21:51.840 trying to rationalize you're shitting out the skin you're shipping 1618 01:21:51.840 --> 01:21:55.079 out to you know, human body parts. Is that a possibility? 1619 01:21:55.159 --> 01:21:57.479 It might be? You know, we we see a guy 1620 01:21:57.520 --> 01:22:00.439 on TV blood letting himself and drinking someone else blood 1621 01:22:00.439 --> 01:22:04.479 as well, Like, which is that that guy could possibly 1622 01:22:04.479 --> 01:22:05.319 be the Antichrist? 1623 01:22:05.359 --> 01:22:08.840 I have never se what he's literally blood letting himself. 1624 01:22:09.239 --> 01:22:12.119 Yes, he cuts his hand and they and they put 1625 01:22:12.119 --> 01:22:14.239 it into a glass and then there's another guy who 1626 01:22:14.239 --> 01:22:15.720 does it and they drink it. 1627 01:22:16.800 --> 01:22:19.119 That's a good way to get aid from Texas. 1628 01:22:19.239 --> 01:22:21.800 Kenneth Copeland yep, yep. 1629 01:22:22.119 --> 01:22:25.119 Oh my god, I must look this up. 1630 01:22:25.720 --> 01:22:28.840 We have to like that guy is. 1631 01:22:30.159 --> 01:22:33.439 We've heard him talk shit about his private fleet of 1632 01:22:33.560 --> 01:22:37.039 airline right about how you can't fly with the regular. 1633 01:22:36.720 --> 01:22:38.800 People because they're demons and things. 1634 01:22:38.880 --> 01:22:42.880 And yes, hang on, let let me let me share 1635 01:22:43.000 --> 01:22:46.279 this with you. Hang on, I'll put it in the 1636 01:22:46.359 --> 01:22:46.840 chat here. 1637 01:22:47.760 --> 01:22:49.640 Wow, that was back in twenty twenty three that he 1638 01:22:49.720 --> 01:22:51.720 was doing that. That wasn't even that long ago. 1639 01:22:53.479 --> 01:22:54.079 Last year. 1640 01:22:55.319 --> 01:22:59.439 Well yeah, technically, technically, yep, this is This is from 1641 01:22:59.520 --> 01:23:01.920 Reddit here, someone had posted this. It's the demonic possession 1642 01:23:01.920 --> 01:23:06.319 of Kenneth Copeland. It's you know, he is bananas. He 1643 01:23:06.680 --> 01:23:09.000 is great up nuts man. 1644 01:23:09.199 --> 01:23:12.880 Oh, he's full on psychopath like and we've we've covered 1645 01:23:12.960 --> 01:23:16.119 him to some extent. I wish that I had known 1646 01:23:16.159 --> 01:23:21.279 about this whole blood letting charade. That is definitely that 1647 01:23:21.439 --> 01:23:23.960 is not of the light or of Jesus. 1648 01:23:24.000 --> 01:23:25.279 I I would say. 1649 01:23:25.760 --> 01:23:26.399 Show ain't. 1650 01:23:27.199 --> 01:23:30.239 So let's see what this looks like here. So here's 1651 01:23:30.279 --> 01:23:34.880 your boy. Fucking looks like a demon too, doesn't he. 1652 01:23:35.479 --> 01:23:38.159 Yeah, Bro, that's either this isn't the one where he's 1653 01:23:38.159 --> 01:23:42.800 blood ledding or demonic. Yeah, yeah, so this he's not 1654 01:23:42.840 --> 01:23:46.399 blood letting in this one. But it's just it's it's 1655 01:23:46.560 --> 01:23:48.560 it's him being crazy, man, it is him. 1656 01:23:52.279 --> 01:23:53.119 More the more we. 1657 01:23:53.239 --> 01:24:02.640 Learn about this, the covernor of CRD, what blood the 1658 01:24:02.680 --> 01:24:05.399 blood of this covenant tort. 1659 01:24:06.399 --> 01:24:08.640 Cut the covenant with his father gone Holory. 1660 01:24:12.119 --> 01:24:19.279 Yeah, it's like more, it's a old there's calm, hope, 1661 01:24:19.399 --> 01:24:22.319 they're calm. 1662 01:24:22.319 --> 01:24:27.279 Oh, don't ever do it. Don't ever feel sorry for yourself, 1663 01:24:27.439 --> 01:24:37.119 don't ever know it Absolutely stunning, shous deelish, it's so. 1664 01:24:37.520 --> 01:24:41.640 Good pany me like Moses, and he'll live one hundred 1665 01:24:41.640 --> 01:24:42.760 and twenty years in the said. 1666 01:24:42.840 --> 01:24:45.960 Yeah, yeah, here, I'm preaching, brother preacher, brother preacher Josh 1667 01:24:46.159 --> 01:24:52.359 before the crown, and we have a healing covenant. 1668 01:24:56.399 --> 01:25:02.119 Twelves me the pure. 1669 01:25:01.960 --> 01:25:09.560 Shpotlish blood of God and ash. It was performed for 1670 01:25:09.920 --> 01:25:16.760 me ish my blood brother, and my father is my friend. 1671 01:25:18.880 --> 01:25:21.800 And as he is, sure we in this world, Glory 1672 01:25:21.920 --> 01:25:22.279 to God. 1673 01:25:22.319 --> 01:25:24.520 I don't have it. I never will have it. 1674 01:25:24.600 --> 01:25:27.239 And I don't mind telling you I'll never be shit 1675 01:25:27.319 --> 01:25:30.239 again in my life hereafter forever, not one time. 1676 01:25:30.439 --> 01:25:36.880 I will never say what today? 1677 01:25:38.159 --> 01:25:44.039 We know your mama, Okay, I mean we've covered this 1678 01:25:44.279 --> 01:25:48.479 guy before, and that's why it's not exactly surprising to 1679 01:25:48.520 --> 01:25:51.520 me that somebody like this would be doing the whole 1680 01:25:51.520 --> 01:25:52.239 blood let anything. 1681 01:25:52.319 --> 01:25:55.319 So explain that. So he in one of his homeboys. 1682 01:25:55.359 --> 01:25:58.680 They cut down their hand and they squeezed it into 1683 01:25:58.720 --> 01:25:59.119 a cup. 1684 01:26:00.159 --> 01:26:02.039 Yeah, and then they trade. 1685 01:26:01.760 --> 01:26:04.359 It and they yeah, and they drank it. They put 1686 01:26:04.359 --> 01:26:05.680 it into one cup if I if I do it, 1687 01:26:05.720 --> 01:26:07.439 call they put it into one cup and they both 1688 01:26:08.119 --> 01:26:10.880 drank it together, you know, And he was like, oh 1689 01:26:10.880 --> 01:26:12.239 I can taste his blood. 1690 01:26:12.920 --> 01:26:13.560 Ah. 1691 01:26:14.680 --> 01:26:17.199 The fuck is wrong with people. 1692 01:26:19.279 --> 01:26:23.159 That guy is is possessed man, that like, if we 1693 01:26:23.239 --> 01:26:26.239 wanted to say, like the Antichrist is someone who's supposed 1694 01:26:26.239 --> 01:26:28.960 to portray to be like of God and to make 1695 01:26:29.000 --> 01:26:33.399 a mockery of it, Well, he's doing a good job. 1696 01:26:33.439 --> 01:26:34.239 He's doing a good job. 1697 01:26:34.560 --> 01:26:36.680 Yeah he is, dude, Yeah, that is. 1698 01:26:37.039 --> 01:26:39.600 Actually he's doing a crazy job because like it's so 1699 01:26:40.039 --> 01:26:43.119 blatantly he's supposed to trick people. And I'm like, how 1700 01:26:43.199 --> 01:26:46.000 is that a trick? That that guy is just nuts? Oh? 1701 01:26:46.039 --> 01:26:48.720 Bro, We've said it before. He is the pastor from 1702 01:26:48.760 --> 01:26:51.520 Little Nikki. You remember Little Nikki without him saying that's 1703 01:26:51.560 --> 01:26:52.239 who that is? 1704 01:26:52.359 --> 01:26:52.479 Ye? 1705 01:26:52.720 --> 01:26:58.720 Like on yes, and so yeah, I don't know. You know, 1706 01:26:58.840 --> 01:27:00.920 I I have a question for you, though, and this 1707 01:27:01.000 --> 01:27:04.880 is something that I ponder quite frequently. I've asked other 1708 01:27:04.920 --> 01:27:08.640 people as well, but just your thoughts. So, you know, 1709 01:27:08.800 --> 01:27:11.039 on this whole journey of trying to figure out what 1710 01:27:11.079 --> 01:27:16.039 the truth is, which religion is right, which spiritual ideology 1711 01:27:16.199 --> 01:27:18.600 is right, what is the actual core truth? Where do 1712 01:27:18.680 --> 01:27:20.720 we come from, where are we going? What is the 1713 01:27:20.720 --> 01:27:22.880 whole purpose of all this kind of stuff? And I've 1714 01:27:22.960 --> 01:27:24.560 kind of been on this journey here for a few 1715 01:27:24.640 --> 01:27:27.039 years now, and I've been, you know, trying. 1716 01:27:27.319 --> 01:27:29.119 I feel like I've learned a little bit along the way, 1717 01:27:29.159 --> 01:27:30.159 for sure, But. 1718 01:27:30.239 --> 01:27:34.560 There are there's there's a question out there that some 1719 01:27:34.600 --> 01:27:37.600 people say that whenever they eventually get back to Christianity, 1720 01:27:37.720 --> 01:27:40.800 after going through all the different religions and all the 1721 01:27:40.840 --> 01:27:43.680 different spiritual philosophies and stuff like that, that they found 1722 01:27:43.920 --> 01:27:47.880 that the absolute truth was within Christianity. And there I 1723 01:27:47.920 --> 01:27:50.279 always found that kind of strange. I'm not going to 1724 01:27:50.319 --> 01:27:53.239 say it's wrong, but I just wonder, you know, what 1725 01:27:53.399 --> 01:27:55.479 exactly did you go through in order to get there? 1726 01:27:55.520 --> 01:27:58.479 And the question that I have is that, all right. 1727 01:27:58.399 --> 01:28:02.680 Let's say your you were just born your age right now, 1728 01:28:02.680 --> 01:28:03.079 what'd you say? 1729 01:28:03.079 --> 01:28:04.000 You're forty right now? 1730 01:28:05.079 --> 01:28:05.600 Forty eight? 1731 01:28:06.000 --> 01:28:08.159 Oh, you don't look a day over forty seven, but 1732 01:28:09.239 --> 01:28:11.399 let's just say, all right, you're forty eight, right, and 1733 01:28:12.119 --> 01:28:15.279 for some reason or another, you're born into a forest. 1734 01:28:15.560 --> 01:28:18.560 You never talk to anybody, you have your logical brain 1735 01:28:18.640 --> 01:28:20.680 that you do have right now, but you were just 1736 01:28:20.760 --> 01:28:23.279 kind of maybe even shifted into another dimension and you're 1737 01:28:23.319 --> 01:28:25.960 just somehow in this forest, right and you see all 1738 01:28:25.960 --> 01:28:28.039 the birds, and you see the foxes and deer and 1739 01:28:28.119 --> 01:28:30.199 all that other shit, right, and you're trying to figure 1740 01:28:30.239 --> 01:28:32.039 out what am I doing here? What is the purpose 1741 01:28:32.079 --> 01:28:34.439 of even being here? What is here? What does that 1742 01:28:34.479 --> 01:28:38.880 even mean? Kind of situation, and you're and so maybe 1743 01:28:38.960 --> 01:28:40.880 you learn to meditate, or maybe you learn to sit 1744 01:28:40.920 --> 01:28:42.920 by yourself and you look up at the stars every night, 1745 01:28:42.960 --> 01:28:44.800 and maybe you whenever you build a fire to keep 1746 01:28:44.840 --> 01:28:46.920 yourself warn you're staring into the fire and you're trying 1747 01:28:46.960 --> 01:28:49.239 to figure out certain meanings and all that fun jazz. 1748 01:28:49.520 --> 01:28:52.119 I feel like, and call me crazy for saying this. 1749 01:28:52.520 --> 01:28:56.439 I feel like most people would not come on their 1750 01:28:56.520 --> 01:29:00.880 own terms to finding that Jesus or the Bible or 1751 01:29:00.880 --> 01:29:03.920 that Christianity or any religion for that matter, would be 1752 01:29:03.960 --> 01:29:06.479 the answer if you were there to sit there by yourself. 1753 01:29:06.840 --> 01:29:10.119 And that's something that I that I ponder like quite 1754 01:29:10.159 --> 01:29:13.359 often because if the answer is kind of within us, 1755 01:29:13.439 --> 01:29:15.399 and even the Bible, you know, it relates back to 1756 01:29:15.760 --> 01:29:19.640 the Kingdom of Heaven is within you and stuff like that, 1757 01:29:20.000 --> 01:29:23.920 it just makes me wonder, like, I don't know, I'm 1758 01:29:23.960 --> 01:29:26.279 trying to figure out the nature of this reality, and 1759 01:29:26.319 --> 01:29:28.039 I feel like if you have to learn it from 1760 01:29:28.079 --> 01:29:31.920 another human, like, how do we know that those humans 1761 01:29:31.960 --> 01:29:33.920 were absolutely right too, you know what I'm saying, Like, 1762 01:29:34.119 --> 01:29:36.640 all right, So just to get back to the first question, 1763 01:29:36.680 --> 01:29:39.319 if you were just stranded in the woods your first 1764 01:29:39.399 --> 01:29:41.560 day here, you're a forty something year old man, and 1765 01:29:41.600 --> 01:29:44.760 you're trying to figure out why you're here, where would 1766 01:29:44.800 --> 01:29:45.319 your mind go? 1767 01:29:45.920 --> 01:29:46.840 Where's McDonald's. 1768 01:29:46.920 --> 01:29:49.920 No, nah ah. 1769 01:29:49.119 --> 01:29:52.800 No, I would say, I don't eat McDonald's at all anymore. 1770 01:29:52.800 --> 01:29:57.680 But I would say, you know, like if we're saying, like, 1771 01:29:57.760 --> 01:30:00.239 you know, what is right? The Mormons are right, first 1772 01:30:00.279 --> 01:30:06.119 of all. No, but but like the teachings of Jesus, 1773 01:30:06.159 --> 01:30:08.119 I think are are what we need to be following, 1774 01:30:08.199 --> 01:30:12.000 you know, like the Old Testament is a history book. Okay, 1775 01:30:12.039 --> 01:30:15.439 this is the history of what happened. And people will 1776 01:30:15.439 --> 01:30:18.640 be like, oh, that's bullshit. No, Like we we know 1777 01:30:19.199 --> 01:30:23.880 many cultures all tell us about a historical flood, you know, 1778 01:30:24.000 --> 01:30:27.479 like a diluge that, and it's in the Bible, you know, 1779 01:30:27.880 --> 01:30:30.359 And and so we do we throw away the rest 1780 01:30:30.399 --> 01:30:33.199 of the Bible because we don't believe this or we 1781 01:30:33.239 --> 01:30:36.199 don't believe that. But there's there's things in the Bible 1782 01:30:36.319 --> 01:30:37.239 that have come to play. 1783 01:30:37.359 --> 01:30:37.520 You know. 1784 01:30:39.159 --> 01:30:42.239 I totally believe that the Fallen angels, you know, were 1785 01:30:42.319 --> 01:30:45.199 a part. It's just that I think that many stories 1786 01:30:45.239 --> 01:30:48.680 got miss misconstrued. You know, when we talk about like 1787 01:30:48.760 --> 01:30:53.319 the the Greek gods, you know, like Zeus and you know, 1788 01:30:53.399 --> 01:30:56.920 Besidon and everything, those are your fallen angels. There their 1789 01:30:57.000 --> 01:30:59.920 sons or you know, like the men of Renown, you know, 1790 01:31:00.079 --> 01:31:02.600 like Hercules and stuff like that. Those were the Nephilim. 1791 01:31:03.279 --> 01:31:06.960 They were born of gods and of and I'm not 1792 01:31:07.000 --> 01:31:08.560 answering your question, but I'm just going off on a 1793 01:31:08.560 --> 01:31:11.479 little tangent here. But they were born of like you know, 1794 01:31:12.119 --> 01:31:15.199 of human women and of these gods, and they created 1795 01:31:15.319 --> 01:31:19.079 the Nephilum, which was like Hercules and everything else. But 1796 01:31:19.279 --> 01:31:22.439 going back to this, in the end, Jesus taught us, 1797 01:31:22.439 --> 01:31:24.199 you know, do wanto others as you would have them 1798 01:31:24.279 --> 01:31:28.279 do onto you. It's golden rule. And you know, like 1799 01:31:28.640 --> 01:31:30.319 we can go to all these other religions, we can 1800 01:31:30.359 --> 01:31:31.439 go to Buddhism. 1801 01:31:31.720 --> 01:31:32.000 You know. 1802 01:31:32.239 --> 01:31:35.279 It's just the base core of many of them is 1803 01:31:35.439 --> 01:31:39.560 just be a damn good person, you know, don't be 1804 01:31:39.600 --> 01:31:42.880 an asshole. And it if you feel that you need 1805 01:31:42.920 --> 01:31:45.000 to kill people because your religion tells you to, you 1806 01:31:45.239 --> 01:31:48.720 there's something wrong. Okay, you need to reconsider things, and 1807 01:31:48.760 --> 01:31:52.640 you need to come back. I don't believe any of 1808 01:31:52.680 --> 01:31:56.960 that is correct, though. I believe in protecting oneself, and 1809 01:31:57.000 --> 01:31:59.279 if I have to kill someone to protect some myself 1810 01:31:59.319 --> 01:32:02.880 and my family, so be it. But it's not like 1811 01:32:02.960 --> 01:32:05.399 I am going out there looking to do that. I'm 1812 01:32:05.439 --> 01:32:07.479 just I'm just looking to protect myself and my family. 1813 01:32:07.520 --> 01:32:09.479 So if I wake up in the forest, what am 1814 01:32:09.479 --> 01:32:10.680 I going to do? What's the first thing is coming 1815 01:32:10.680 --> 01:32:13.239 on my mind? Is, you know, is basic is survival. 1816 01:32:13.279 --> 01:32:15.800 But if I don't have to worry about survival, perhaps 1817 01:32:15.920 --> 01:32:20.439 it's exploring. And I actually, I know this is not 1818 01:32:20.439 --> 01:32:22.960 really answer your question, but I believe that at heart 1819 01:32:22.960 --> 01:32:27.760 we're all explorers, which takes us back to us looking 1820 01:32:27.760 --> 01:32:30.640 for answers, you know, like I believe most of the 1821 01:32:30.720 --> 01:32:34.439 land has already just been discovered, So we don't have 1822 01:32:34.479 --> 01:32:37.680 that explorer of discovering land, but we have the explorer 1823 01:32:38.000 --> 01:32:41.600 of discovering truth. Whether it be these mysteries of the 1824 01:32:41.600 --> 01:32:44.600 Bermuda Triangle, which was like my one of the ones 1825 01:32:44.600 --> 01:32:47.359 that I love growing up as a child, or it's cryptids, 1826 01:32:47.640 --> 01:32:50.560 or it's you know, Antarctica, is it what, what's past? 1827 01:32:51.159 --> 01:32:54.520 What's passed. Aren't that Antarctica? Or what is the truth 1828 01:32:54.640 --> 01:32:57.680 with World War two? You know the yeah, Germany lost, 1829 01:32:57.720 --> 01:33:00.279 but the nazis one. You know. Let's uh, you know, 1830 01:33:00.319 --> 01:33:03.720 there's so many truths out there that were being hidden 1831 01:33:03.760 --> 01:33:08.760 from us, that us you know, you guys myself, we 1832 01:33:08.880 --> 01:33:13.800 are explorers into trying to discover the truth. And I 1833 01:33:14.039 --> 01:33:15.920 think if I was lost in a land, I would 1834 01:33:16.199 --> 01:33:18.520 and I woke up there, I would I'd be searching 1835 01:33:18.560 --> 01:33:20.399 for truth. That is what I'd be. 1836 01:33:20.359 --> 01:33:23.600 Doing, right right, Yeah, I mean, I guess you know, 1837 01:33:23.760 --> 01:33:27.439 my mentality has always kind of been like I like 1838 01:33:27.520 --> 01:33:30.359 to search for truth from within, and I feel like 1839 01:33:30.399 --> 01:33:32.359 that there's a lot of things that you can learn. 1840 01:33:32.439 --> 01:33:34.439 The deeper you go into meditation, the deeper you go 1841 01:33:34.479 --> 01:33:37.800 into thought, the deeper you go into even using psychedelics 1842 01:33:37.840 --> 01:33:40.039 if that's something that you're into. But like, you know, 1843 01:33:40.159 --> 01:33:43.359 I just that's I feel like it's a you want 1844 01:33:43.399 --> 01:33:46.960 to talk about like not having any more land to explore, 1845 01:33:47.000 --> 01:33:50.079 I feel like the mind is the most fascinating place 1846 01:33:50.119 --> 01:33:52.239 to explore, and I feel like a lot of answers 1847 01:33:52.239 --> 01:33:55.840 are really found there and not not even necessarily to 1848 01:33:55.840 --> 01:33:57.640 make it a religious thing or anything like that it 1849 01:33:57.720 --> 01:33:59.520 was just kind of like a I don't know, like 1850 01:33:59.560 --> 01:34:01.840 a weird question that I do like asking certain people 1851 01:34:01.920 --> 01:34:07.279 because it's it's almost like, you know, listening to religion 1852 01:34:07.399 --> 01:34:10.520 and certain people say, well, mine's right, No, mine's right, No, 1853 01:34:10.640 --> 01:34:14.880 mind's right, and it's like, like, how do you even 1854 01:34:15.560 --> 01:34:18.199 how can we be sure of any of it? You know, 1855 01:34:18.479 --> 01:34:20.760 like you're kind of taking on somebody else's word. 1856 01:34:21.479 --> 01:34:25.159 Yeah, Like in the end, I think if you're out 1857 01:34:25.239 --> 01:34:29.319 there saying mine's right and yours is wrong, I feel 1858 01:34:29.359 --> 01:34:32.079 that's coming from a place of ego, and you know, 1859 01:34:32.159 --> 01:34:34.079 we're going to like a new age kind of bullshit 1860 01:34:34.119 --> 01:34:36.079 kind of thing. But I do believe I you know, 1861 01:34:36.119 --> 01:34:38.119 what I did learn from there, There were some good things. 1862 01:34:38.279 --> 01:34:42.199 But I believe, you know, if again, we have the 1863 01:34:42.319 --> 01:34:45.439 choice of free will, if someone wants to and if 1864 01:34:45.479 --> 01:34:48.800 they're doing something and it's not harming anyone, you know, 1865 01:34:49.079 --> 01:34:53.279 and and they're bettering the world because of it, go 1866 01:34:53.479 --> 01:34:53.800 for it. 1867 01:34:54.720 --> 01:34:54.960 Yeah. 1868 01:34:55.079 --> 01:34:56.319 I agree. I agree. 1869 01:34:56.359 --> 01:34:58.880 So anyway, like, let's let's get off of all this 1870 01:34:59.000 --> 01:35:01.600 religious stuff because I feel like we cover it a 1871 01:35:01.640 --> 01:35:04.439 lot and I and it's not enough. It's not to 1872 01:35:04.479 --> 01:35:07.039 say that somebody's right or somebody's wrong. It's just I like, 1873 01:35:07.239 --> 01:35:12.239 you know, exploring other people's perspectives and whatnot. But you 1874 01:35:12.239 --> 01:35:15.359 you you mentioned that you tried ayahuasca and then you 1875 01:35:15.439 --> 01:35:18.920 talked about that whole kind of ceremony. Did you have 1876 01:35:19.000 --> 01:35:21.680 the whole purging effect? Like were you shitting yourself and 1877 01:35:21.720 --> 01:35:24.199 throwing up? That's what a lot of people say about. 1878 01:35:23.960 --> 01:35:27.039 It, so yeah, that that is a common thing for 1879 01:35:27.079 --> 01:35:30.319 people to get up and go and vomit. I never did. 1880 01:35:30.359 --> 01:35:38.920 I never threw up. Maybe I should have, but I 1881 01:35:38.279 --> 01:35:41.000 I I'll be honest, I didn't feel comfortable in that scenario. 1882 01:35:41.039 --> 01:35:43.800 Wasn't like I was like, didn't feel safe. I hate 1883 01:35:43.800 --> 01:35:45.359 saying that it was my safe space. Now I don't 1884 01:35:45.359 --> 01:35:47.800 give a crap about that, but I just needn't feel comfortable, 1885 01:35:47.840 --> 01:35:49.960 and like there's a lot of people and this was 1886 01:35:50.000 --> 01:35:52.439 their normal church, and I was invited by a shawman 1887 01:35:52.520 --> 01:35:56.039 actually to attend this church, and and and for me 1888 01:35:56.119 --> 01:36:00.119 it was like, okay, it just I didn't feel comfortab Well, 1889 01:36:00.119 --> 01:36:01.840 it's kind of like going to a friend of a 1890 01:36:01.840 --> 01:36:05.359 friend's house and then you know you're you're not part 1891 01:36:05.359 --> 01:36:07.039 of the main group. You're kind of like hanging out 1892 01:36:07.119 --> 01:36:10.199 on the outside. And then it just felt kind of 1893 01:36:10.239 --> 01:36:12.680 awkward a little bit. So I would definitely like to 1894 01:36:12.760 --> 01:36:16.439 try ayahuasca again, but on in a different location, a 1895 01:36:16.479 --> 01:36:17.119 different setting. 1896 01:36:18.399 --> 01:36:21.800 Okay, all right, yeah, I was just curious. I've it's 1897 01:36:21.840 --> 01:36:24.960 it's kind of comparable to DMT though, isn't it, but 1898 01:36:25.079 --> 01:36:26.319 it lasts longer, right. 1899 01:36:27.079 --> 01:36:28.039 Oh yeah? Oh yeah. 1900 01:36:28.239 --> 01:36:28.399 This. 1901 01:36:28.880 --> 01:36:33.359 So we were doing three rounds, and each round though, 1902 01:36:33.359 --> 01:36:35.640 like you do the first one and then they'd sing 1903 01:36:35.640 --> 01:36:38.039 a bunch of songs and it was like forty minutes. 1904 01:36:38.279 --> 01:36:40.399 I would say, around there, and then we do another 1905 01:36:40.439 --> 01:36:42.439 shot of it, and then you do another round. And 1906 01:36:42.479 --> 01:36:44.319 after the second though, I was starting to get like, 1907 01:36:44.399 --> 01:36:46.319 holy crap, this is intense, Like do I want to 1908 01:36:46.319 --> 01:36:48.359 do the third? And my wife was there at the time, 1909 01:36:48.760 --> 01:36:51.439 and I'm like, okay, if my wife goes up, I 1910 01:36:51.560 --> 01:36:53.720 better go up and take my third shot, and so 1911 01:36:53.760 --> 01:36:55.560 she did so like okay, okay, let's. 1912 01:36:55.359 --> 01:36:55.800 Go do this. 1913 01:36:56.640 --> 01:36:59.640 But it was it was intense. It was very very strong, 1914 01:37:01.079 --> 01:37:05.039 and like it was slightly his hallucinogenic, but it was 1915 01:37:05.039 --> 01:37:07.119 more of like when I closed my eyes, I was 1916 01:37:07.119 --> 01:37:10.000 going places and I wanted to do that. That's what 1917 01:37:10.039 --> 01:37:12.479 I really wanted to do, But of course, you close 1918 01:37:12.520 --> 01:37:14.960 your eyes and they're like no, you get a tap 1919 01:37:15.000 --> 01:37:16.600 on the shoulder. You know, you your eyes would be 1920 01:37:16.600 --> 01:37:18.239 closed for maybe a minute and then you get a 1921 01:37:18.239 --> 01:37:20.520 tap on the shoulder and it's like no, you please 1922 01:37:20.880 --> 01:37:23.239 continue to sing and do your work. 1923 01:37:24.159 --> 01:37:26.119 Wow, do your work. 1924 01:37:26.279 --> 01:37:28.960 So your work would be then chanting and doing what 1925 01:37:29.000 --> 01:37:31.000 everybody else is doing. It's kind of is it like 1926 01:37:31.039 --> 01:37:32.720 a healing ceremony kind of situation. 1927 01:37:32.880 --> 01:37:34.520 Yeah, yeah, that's like it. You know, when you're saying, 1928 01:37:34.560 --> 01:37:36.640 like you need to go you know, your shadow work 1929 01:37:36.640 --> 01:37:39.720 and do that. That is what it was all about. 1930 01:37:40.159 --> 01:37:44.600 But you know, like I think, uh, you know, one 1931 01:37:44.600 --> 01:37:49.039 thing is like like imagining and using using your imagination 1932 01:37:49.159 --> 01:37:51.359 to to visualize. So that's what I'm looking for. To 1933 01:37:51.439 --> 01:37:55.840 visualize is very very important and in my opinion, when 1934 01:37:55.840 --> 01:37:59.119 you're doing shadow work and you know, for me, it's 1935 01:37:59.199 --> 01:38:01.239 kind of closed your eyes and visualize what you know, 1936 01:38:01.359 --> 01:38:03.119 what needs to be done and kind of go there 1937 01:38:03.239 --> 01:38:06.199 and deal with stuff. But no, it's like no, sing, 1938 01:38:06.359 --> 01:38:09.239 chant your songs. Sing these songs, shake that rattle and 1939 01:38:09.560 --> 01:38:10.279 uh and go. 1940 01:38:11.079 --> 01:38:16.159 That is so trippy, dude. I'm uh, I'm kind of scared, dude. 1941 01:38:16.199 --> 01:38:17.840 I'm gonna be real with you, because I did DMT 1942 01:38:18.000 --> 01:38:20.439 one time, or I did it twice, but in one night, 1943 01:38:21.000 --> 01:38:24.960 and the first time was awesome. The second time literally 1944 01:38:25.000 --> 01:38:27.319 the scariest thing I've ever had happened to me in 1945 01:38:27.359 --> 01:38:32.520 my life. I am forever stamped, like by that experience. 1946 01:38:33.680 --> 01:38:36.239 It was almost like branding me. It was like, I'll 1947 01:38:36.279 --> 01:38:40.640 never forget it. And so whenever you would close your eyes, 1948 01:38:40.640 --> 01:38:42.560 you would see like a bunch of fractals and stuff 1949 01:38:42.600 --> 01:38:43.800 like that, like a bunch of the. 1950 01:38:44.279 --> 01:38:49.880 Direct well like like I would say, actually when I 1951 01:38:49.920 --> 01:38:52.560 went home, when I finally went home, I was seeing 1952 01:38:52.560 --> 01:38:55.760 fractical fractals. When I was just like looking up at 1953 01:38:55.800 --> 01:38:58.000 the street lights, you know, I started I started seeing 1954 01:38:58.039 --> 01:39:00.359 things coming down and it looked like everything looked like 1955 01:39:00.359 --> 01:39:04.159 it was raining too. I swore it was raining white 1956 01:39:05.600 --> 01:39:10.840 light rain, like actual light, oh on everything. That is 1957 01:39:10.880 --> 01:39:12.840 one thing I saw. And this was like a couple 1958 01:39:12.880 --> 01:39:15.359 of hours after after it was you know, so I 1959 01:39:15.439 --> 01:39:18.720 was I was pretty down already, you know, but I 1960 01:39:18.800 --> 01:39:20.880 was still seeing all this stuff and it looked like 1961 01:39:20.920 --> 01:39:24.119 it was raining white light particles. 1962 01:39:24.399 --> 01:39:28.720 That is freaking awesome, raining white light particles. That is 1963 01:39:28.760 --> 01:39:32.479 probably one of the coolest phrases ever, so like as 1964 01:39:32.560 --> 01:39:34.920 far as all right, so kind of sticking into this 1965 01:39:35.000 --> 01:39:38.560 weird dimension I saw that you you like to cover 1966 01:39:38.640 --> 01:39:41.960 like a lot of UFO kind of stuff is there. 1967 01:39:43.720 --> 01:39:45.720 What are your thoughts on UFOs? I mean, I know 1968 01:39:45.760 --> 01:39:47.800 that some people, you know, they'll say that, well, some 1969 01:39:47.840 --> 01:39:52.439 of them are obviously like government controlled weird technology that 1970 01:39:52.479 --> 01:39:55.920 we don't know about yet. But in taking away those 1971 01:39:56.239 --> 01:39:58.439 I'm talking about the real UFOs. What do you think 1972 01:39:58.479 --> 01:40:01.039 they are? Do you think they're coming from other planets, 1973 01:40:01.039 --> 01:40:02.000 other dimensions? 1974 01:40:02.039 --> 01:40:04.079 Are they good? Are they bad? What are your thoughts 1975 01:40:04.079 --> 01:40:04.319 on that? 1976 01:40:05.199 --> 01:40:10.159 All the above so good and bad? So I definitely 1977 01:40:10.159 --> 01:40:12.600 believe that. And and this this was kind of a 1978 01:40:12.600 --> 01:40:16.640 revelation that I had with the show, was I thought 1979 01:40:16.920 --> 01:40:19.840 aliens were out of this world from another, you know, 1980 01:40:20.199 --> 01:40:23.560 another like universe, different universe and coming to visit us 1981 01:40:23.560 --> 01:40:25.399 and stuff like that. But I'm I'm coming to the 1982 01:40:25.439 --> 01:40:28.359 point where I'm realizing that some of them, like when 1983 01:40:28.359 --> 01:40:30.640 you're saying government controlled, yeah, some of them I actually 1984 01:40:30.640 --> 01:40:33.239 believe are possibly from like New Schwabenland, that are from 1985 01:40:33.279 --> 01:40:38.039 these breakaway civilization of Germans, the Nazis that actually you know, 1986 01:40:38.159 --> 01:40:41.239 separated won the war they won the war. If people 1987 01:40:41.279 --> 01:40:44.119 don't realize that Germany lost the war, the Nazis won. 1988 01:40:47.159 --> 01:40:53.039 But also I do believe that they are demons as well. 1989 01:40:53.199 --> 01:41:00.600 I believe that UFOs and aliens are demons there. And 1990 01:41:00.880 --> 01:41:03.640 some people are like, oh, you know, they're there. And 1991 01:41:03.880 --> 01:41:05.960 I do believe if they're demons, that means they're also 1992 01:41:06.079 --> 01:41:08.319 angels and they're also good. I think it's actually you. 1993 01:41:08.319 --> 01:41:10.319 You have to have that balance. It can't be just 1994 01:41:10.319 --> 01:41:12.479 one or the other. But the ones that are abducting you, 1995 01:41:12.880 --> 01:41:16.239 guess what you're You're being abducted against your will. That 1996 01:41:16.399 --> 01:41:19.840 is not good. There's nothing good about that. I don't 1997 01:41:19.840 --> 01:41:22.399 give a shit if they say they're, you know, from 1998 01:41:22.399 --> 01:41:25.840 the galactic Federation of Light or they're your your galactic family. 1999 01:41:25.920 --> 01:41:28.840 If you are being abducted against your will, they are 2000 01:41:29.039 --> 01:41:34.079 not good. And and I do believe that there comes 2001 01:41:34.079 --> 01:41:38.319 into play of demons possibly and demons. A lot of 2002 01:41:38.319 --> 01:41:43.079 people think demons are like a physical thing. Demons are 2003 01:41:43.600 --> 01:41:50.079 a a spiritual thing. There there are disembodied spirits that 2004 01:41:50.399 --> 01:41:54.319 will possess something and and and and through that then 2005 01:41:54.359 --> 01:41:56.720 they can which gets us into the nephil And when 2006 01:41:56.720 --> 01:41:59.560 the nephiline died, they their spirits don't go anywhere. They 2007 01:41:59.680 --> 01:42:01.199 they they don't go to heaven, they don't go to hell. 2008 01:42:01.239 --> 01:42:03.920 They're kind of stuck in limbo. So they, in my opinion, 2009 01:42:03.920 --> 01:42:06.840 become demons that will then possess things, and they possess 2010 01:42:06.880 --> 01:42:08.800 things so that they can actually have a body again 2011 01:42:09.199 --> 01:42:14.680 and feel and eat and taste and smell, because of 2012 01:42:14.680 --> 01:42:17.079 course they want that. But they're also of course extremely 2013 01:42:17.119 --> 01:42:19.680 jealous of us. So you know, when we talk about 2014 01:42:19.680 --> 01:42:23.279 the grays, the grays are like a like an AI 2015 01:42:23.520 --> 01:42:29.199 type of construct, like almost like a homunculus of sort. 2016 01:42:29.279 --> 01:42:32.159 That's being like a drone. Yes, yeah, like a drone, 2017 01:42:32.399 --> 01:42:35.560 but that can be possessed. It's kind of like you 2018 01:42:35.600 --> 01:42:38.239 can go inside this, so you can put your consciousness 2019 01:42:38.239 --> 01:42:42.199 inside these the grays, because they are just these mindless, 2020 01:42:42.640 --> 01:42:47.520 kind of autonomous beings and that can be possessed by 2021 01:42:47.960 --> 01:42:52.600 demons of sorts. Now, if that with all that being said, 2022 01:42:53.199 --> 01:42:57.760 is that if demons and fallen angels and evil entities 2023 01:42:57.800 --> 01:43:01.880 are aliens, that means that on the flip side, angels 2024 01:43:01.920 --> 01:43:05.920 and have to be related to that as well, because 2025 01:43:05.960 --> 01:43:07.680 they were one and the one and the same at 2026 01:43:07.720 --> 01:43:12.239 one point. So but if you're being abducted. Sorry, that's 2027 01:43:12.279 --> 01:43:15.439 not good. But if you aren't, well that's you know. 2028 01:43:15.760 --> 01:43:18.439 Then if they're approaching you and talking to you and 2029 01:43:18.520 --> 01:43:21.199 explaining and they're not trying to hide their identity, well 2030 01:43:21.239 --> 01:43:22.920 then I would say, then okay, then you got something 2031 01:43:22.920 --> 01:43:25.039 good going on here and whatever it is, you know, 2032 01:43:25.119 --> 01:43:27.520 but still always be aware, always be conscious. 2033 01:43:27.800 --> 01:43:31.279 What about No, I was just gonna say, what about 2034 01:43:31.279 --> 01:43:34.439 the people who, uh, they say that they're being abducted, 2035 01:43:34.520 --> 01:43:37.520 but it's like we we had this one person came 2036 01:43:37.560 --> 01:43:42.000 on and uh, she talked was it Karen Wilkinson, Karen 2037 01:43:42.159 --> 01:43:43.880 Karen Wilkerson or something like that. 2038 01:43:43.840 --> 01:43:45.079 But basically friend of mine. 2039 01:43:45.159 --> 01:43:45.920 Oh, she's great. 2040 01:43:46.119 --> 01:43:48.840 But she was saying that this kind of stuff wasn't 2041 01:43:48.920 --> 01:43:51.560 physically happening to her, that it was almost like. 2042 01:43:51.640 --> 01:43:53.159 Her soul or her. 2043 01:43:53.000 --> 01:43:56.439 Spirit that was being taken into these other places. And 2044 01:43:57.359 --> 01:43:59.680 so if you're not physically being taken, is that a 2045 01:43:59.720 --> 01:44:01.560 different kind of situation then. 2046 01:44:01.920 --> 01:44:04.039 Oh, I still think it's the exact same thing. I 2047 01:44:04.239 --> 01:44:06.640 think the end purpose of these abductions is to create 2048 01:44:06.680 --> 01:44:10.760 a genetic not necessarily a clone of you, but to 2049 01:44:10.800 --> 01:44:14.760 create something. Okay, this is my theory is that they 2050 01:44:14.800 --> 01:44:20.319 are trying to create hybrids so that when their spirit 2051 01:44:20.359 --> 01:44:23.239 can inhabit that and when this hybrid dies, they can 2052 01:44:23.279 --> 01:44:26.479 access heaven and actually get in through the back door 2053 01:44:26.680 --> 01:44:30.720 and possibly kind of like like espionage or get in 2054 01:44:30.760 --> 01:44:34.640 there and like terrorist acts kind of thing. It's like, 2055 01:44:34.680 --> 01:44:36.239 this is my key if I can get into this 2056 01:44:36.439 --> 01:44:38.680 and I can make it as similar as a human, 2057 01:44:38.920 --> 01:44:42.920 that I have a access back in. Because let's be honest, 2058 01:44:42.920 --> 01:44:44.720 I believe that that is exactly what they're trying to do. 2059 01:44:44.760 --> 01:44:46.760 They're trying to get back in. So they create these 2060 01:44:46.840 --> 01:44:50.159 hybrids it is to to access and to get back in. 2061 01:44:50.640 --> 01:44:52.880 So it's like hacking the system. Then at that point. 2062 01:44:52.720 --> 01:44:57.800 Exactly, yeah, exactly, like you can hide within and let's 2063 01:44:58.000 --> 01:45:00.720 let's try to get back in. And what I was 2064 01:45:00.760 --> 01:45:03.760 going to say is in Mexico here, I've actually seen 2065 01:45:03.800 --> 01:45:07.239 a couple of UFOs myself. It's uh, and we're talking 2066 01:45:07.239 --> 01:45:09.840 about UFOs prior. I just I'll give you a quick 2067 01:45:10.159 --> 01:45:12.880 rundown of what I seen. I was in the northern 2068 01:45:12.960 --> 01:45:17.479 state of Chihuahua, and I was in a grocery parking 2069 01:45:17.520 --> 01:45:22.439 lot standing there and again something look up. You know this, 2070 01:45:23.159 --> 01:45:25.039 It's not like someone's telling me, but it's just like 2071 01:45:25.079 --> 01:45:26.880 this urge to look up. So I looked up and 2072 01:45:26.920 --> 01:45:30.319 floating above me. I don't know how high up it was, 2073 01:45:30.359 --> 01:45:32.960 but it was fairly high. Was this And this sounds 2074 01:45:33.000 --> 01:45:35.439 the strangest thing ever, but until I've actually seen a 2075 01:45:35.560 --> 01:45:37.840 video of someone else taking a video of it, was 2076 01:45:37.880 --> 01:45:41.199 like this plasma cloud. Okay, So it was this white 2077 01:45:42.399 --> 01:45:44.840 cloud the sky. There there's no clouds in the sky, 2078 01:45:44.840 --> 01:45:48.399 but there's this white cloud thing. But it is changing shape. 2079 01:45:48.479 --> 01:45:52.239 It is undulating and moving all over on itself. It's growing, 2080 01:45:52.279 --> 01:45:55.560 and it's moving in all these different directions just above me. 2081 01:45:55.640 --> 01:45:58.840 I'll standing there and I'm like the middle of the day. 2082 01:45:58.880 --> 01:46:02.159 I think it was like a eleven eleven eleven am. 2083 01:46:02.479 --> 01:46:04.279 And I'm like, does does anybody else see this? 2084 01:46:04.560 --> 01:46:04.760 You know? 2085 01:46:04.880 --> 01:46:07.560 And I see this, say, it's moving all around. Then 2086 01:46:07.600 --> 01:46:10.520 over off in the far left distance, I see two 2087 01:46:10.680 --> 01:46:15.039 triangular craft okay, and they're on like an intercept course 2088 01:46:15.159 --> 01:46:18.920 for one another, not like this thing is still going on. 2089 01:46:19.000 --> 01:46:21.279 And so I'm looking back and forth at these two things. 2090 01:46:21.760 --> 01:46:25.760 And I missed the point of these two craft intercepting. 2091 01:46:25.840 --> 01:46:28.840 But what I did see was there's now one and 2092 01:46:28.880 --> 01:46:31.800 so there is these two craft that are now possibly one. 2093 01:46:31.840 --> 01:46:35.159 I'm assuming that they have merged somehow into one, and 2094 01:46:35.199 --> 01:46:39.399 it's flying across this and then this white plasma cloud 2095 01:46:39.880 --> 01:46:45.000 just dissipates and goes away. And then this craft at 2096 01:46:45.000 --> 01:46:48.239 a and it's not an airplane, Like, let's be honest, 2097 01:46:48.279 --> 01:46:50.359 it's not an airplane. What it was I don't know, 2098 01:46:50.640 --> 01:46:52.560 but a lot of people describe UFO as are like 2099 01:46:53.000 --> 01:46:55.840 flying across no, no, no, this took its leisure leisurely 2100 01:46:55.880 --> 01:47:00.000 time flying across the horizon. And it was approximately thirteen. 2101 01:47:00.199 --> 01:47:02.680 Because I timed it on my phone, I could not 2102 01:47:02.760 --> 01:47:05.600 get a good picture, so instead I called my wife 2103 01:47:05.600 --> 01:47:07.800 and I'm like, this is what I'm seeing. I'm right 2104 01:47:07.840 --> 01:47:11.600 here in the Sordiana parking lot and I'm seeing this 2105 01:47:11.359 --> 01:47:14.159 this this above me. And I was on the phone 2106 01:47:14.199 --> 01:47:15.560 with her the whole time as I was seeing this song. 2107 01:47:15.600 --> 01:47:18.279 Then I went back with my really good camera, took 2108 01:47:18.319 --> 01:47:20.920 some panoramic pictures of it all and kind of plotted 2109 01:47:20.960 --> 01:47:24.199 it out all the course that this, uh, these two well, 2110 01:47:24.199 --> 01:47:26.640 these things flew. 2111 01:47:27.119 --> 01:47:29.760 So what are they doing then, Like, let's say that 2112 01:47:30.039 --> 01:47:33.319 all the weird alien craft that's up in the in 2113 01:47:33.359 --> 01:47:36.479 the sky, let's just for example, say that they are 2114 01:47:36.560 --> 01:47:41.199 all demonic. Okay, why why would they be showing up 2115 01:47:41.279 --> 01:47:44.920 in the skies in these weird, seemingly very advanced craft. 2116 01:47:45.399 --> 01:47:47.560 I mean, is it just to get people to notice? 2117 01:47:47.720 --> 01:47:50.279 Is it is it to get people to I mean, 2118 01:47:50.279 --> 01:47:52.560 what do you why would they even be showing themselves 2119 01:47:52.600 --> 01:47:54.279 in the sky if they are demonic? 2120 01:47:54.960 --> 01:48:01.520 Well, of course, if some people will come away from religion, 2121 01:48:01.560 --> 01:48:04.439 will move away from religion because they say, well, there's 2122 01:48:04.640 --> 01:48:08.640 another species, another race. A lot of religions believe that 2123 01:48:08.640 --> 01:48:11.279 it's they're the only species or race there. So if 2124 01:48:11.319 --> 01:48:15.560 you can cause doubt, what wouldn't you know that that 2125 01:48:15.600 --> 01:48:18.600 would pull some people away right there, because they're like, well, 2126 01:48:18.640 --> 01:48:21.720 we're you know, humans are supposed to be the only ones. No, no, 2127 01:48:21.760 --> 01:48:24.479 we're not that. That doesn't mean that that's truth, but 2128 01:48:24.520 --> 01:48:28.319 some people will believe that, so they're seeing that. Possibly, 2129 01:48:28.960 --> 01:48:32.279 would you not, like, you know, try to present yourself 2130 01:48:32.720 --> 01:48:35.880 and I would say a lot of like a lot 2131 01:48:35.880 --> 01:48:39.479 of people like believe that demons and these evil entities 2132 01:48:39.960 --> 01:48:41.600 are going to come off and they're going to know 2133 01:48:41.680 --> 01:48:44.159 that they're evil. They're going to know that they're demons. Well, 2134 01:48:45.279 --> 01:48:47.079 if if I'm trying to convince you to come into 2135 01:48:47.199 --> 01:48:50.880 my cult. Would I do it with like like this 2136 01:48:51.039 --> 01:48:53.880 terrifying kind of fear to bring you in, or would 2137 01:48:53.880 --> 01:48:55.720 I be like, hey, here's some free candy, come get 2138 01:48:55.760 --> 01:48:58.319 in my van. You know kind of that type of 2139 01:48:58.319 --> 01:49:01.760 mentality is to try to convince people. So you know, 2140 01:49:03.000 --> 01:49:05.279 I'm not saying that by showing yourself that's what's happening. 2141 01:49:05.319 --> 01:49:06.960 But I'm saying that a lot of times when when 2142 01:49:07.000 --> 01:49:09.600 people are being approached, like I have this one lady 2143 01:49:09.600 --> 01:49:11.880 who you know, she goes on and on about how 2144 01:49:12.279 --> 01:49:14.840 her galactic family is the greatest thing ever. And she's 2145 01:49:14.880 --> 01:49:16.960 been abducted I don't know how many times. And I'm like, 2146 01:49:17.920 --> 01:49:20.199 abduction though that there we go. It means you're being 2147 01:49:20.239 --> 01:49:23.279 stolen against your will. That is not good. 2148 01:49:23.479 --> 01:49:27.960 And she talks about how it's like a good time. Yes, yes, well, 2149 01:49:28.000 --> 01:49:30.119 like what does she say is actually happening whenever she's 2150 01:49:30.159 --> 01:49:30.840 being abrupted. 2151 01:49:31.279 --> 01:49:34.960 I haven't dove too deep into it because I I 2152 01:49:34.960 --> 01:49:38.279 think she's a bit of a looney tune, Okay, but 2153 01:49:38.520 --> 01:49:41.560 I'm it's not It's not that I'm saying I don't 2154 01:49:41.560 --> 01:49:45.600 believe her. I do believe her. But we got into 2155 01:49:45.600 --> 01:49:49.039 a bit of a disagreement about something, and her argument 2156 01:49:49.159 --> 01:49:53.960 go to was, well, you know, you can't handle having 2157 01:49:54.039 --> 01:49:57.680 a discussion with a woman, you know, And I'm like, what, like, 2158 01:49:57.880 --> 01:49:59.319 like you you can't. 2159 01:49:59.359 --> 01:50:01.039 You're just sexist, biggot. 2160 01:50:01.279 --> 01:50:03.960 Yes, the narrative as soon as they back themselves into 2161 01:50:04.000 --> 01:50:05.399 a corner as it goes to. 2162 01:50:05.359 --> 01:50:06.840 It, it was that I'm like, I don't give a 2163 01:50:06.880 --> 01:50:08.880 shit if you're a man, you're a woman, you're you know, 2164 01:50:08.920 --> 01:50:12.920 a chipmunk or a squirrel or you know, bigfoot. This 2165 01:50:13.079 --> 01:50:15.720 is my same argument. I don't care, I don't give 2166 01:50:15.800 --> 01:50:17.520 And it's kind of like they throw that on you 2167 01:50:18.039 --> 01:50:20.199 and it's like, yeah, you just couldn't handle it because 2168 01:50:20.199 --> 01:50:22.560 I'm a woman. I'm like, give shit that you're a woman, 2169 01:50:22.760 --> 01:50:25.920 Like keep throwing throw throw your gender shit out the window, 2170 01:50:26.359 --> 01:50:28.239 and uh, let's have a conversation. 2171 01:50:28.479 --> 01:50:31.079 But you know, it's like a low hanging It's like 2172 01:50:31.119 --> 01:50:34.720 a low hanging fruit, almost like a pull this in 2173 01:50:34.800 --> 01:50:38.439 case of emergency, let's call everybody a bigot and a sexist. 2174 01:50:38.600 --> 01:50:41.640 You know, Like, I hate how watered down that has gotten, 2175 01:50:41.720 --> 01:50:44.920 because now whenever somebody calls somebody a sexist or a bigot, 2176 01:50:44.960 --> 01:50:47.560 it's just like I mean, how many times are you 2177 01:50:47.560 --> 01:50:50.720 gonna cry a wolf? Eventually somebody actually is going to 2178 01:50:50.760 --> 01:50:53.319 be a racist, or somebody actually is going to be 2179 01:50:53.359 --> 01:50:55.439 a sexist or an actual bigot or something like that, 2180 01:50:55.640 --> 01:50:56.960 and nobody's gonna fuck believe you. 2181 01:50:57.399 --> 01:50:59.319 Yeah, and no one's gonna care. No one gives a shit. 2182 01:50:59.359 --> 01:51:01.439 You know, We're get to it. You know, I think 2183 01:51:01.439 --> 01:51:04.319 it had it held some water before. And it's kind 2184 01:51:04.359 --> 01:51:05.760 of like the boy he cried. It's like the boy 2185 01:51:05.800 --> 01:51:08.880 he cried wolf, you know it. It doesn't like when 2186 01:51:08.920 --> 01:51:10.880 you're doing it, you're getting all this attention, but when 2187 01:51:10.880 --> 01:51:13.399 it actually does matter, no one's gonna believe you anymore. 2188 01:51:13.479 --> 01:51:15.720 This is gonna be a bunch of bullshit. And it's like, Okay, 2189 01:51:15.760 --> 01:51:17.560 well this guy really is a bigot or this guy 2190 01:51:17.560 --> 01:51:19.920 really is sexist. I don't care. I don't want to 2191 01:51:19.920 --> 01:51:22.520 listen to your shit anymore. You know it. It's let's 2192 01:51:22.560 --> 01:51:25.840 move on past that. It's lost its power and unfortunately 2193 01:51:26.560 --> 01:51:28.920 it really could be real, but I don't care. 2194 01:51:29.560 --> 01:51:33.239 Yeah, that's one step above saying like I'm rubber, you're glue. 2195 01:51:33.520 --> 01:51:34.319 You know what I'm saying. 2196 01:51:34.359 --> 01:51:37.560 It's like it's so stupid, like of a retort kind 2197 01:51:37.560 --> 01:51:40.159 of situation, and it's unfortunate that people, you know, resort 2198 01:51:40.279 --> 01:51:42.600 back to that. But you know, I mean, because I 2199 01:51:43.000 --> 01:51:45.640 do like having conversations with people like that, even if 2200 01:51:45.680 --> 01:51:49.359 it's maybe it's just some kind of weird psychological thing 2201 01:51:49.359 --> 01:51:52.319 that this person is experiencing. Maybe it's like a recurring 2202 01:51:52.439 --> 01:51:55.000 dream that she deems as reality, and it could be 2203 01:51:55.560 --> 01:51:57.640 a situation like that, but we're never gonna know, because 2204 01:51:57.680 --> 01:52:01.439 you're too much of a fucking bigot rye exactly. 2205 01:52:01.319 --> 01:52:05.039 That's exactly. And I'm like, yeah, i've gotta I'm just 2206 01:52:05.039 --> 01:52:07.760 gonna watch from Afar and watch it self destruct, you know. 2207 01:52:08.039 --> 01:52:12.319 And we're talking about like looney Tunes things like, it's 2208 01:52:12.319 --> 01:52:15.359 got to be pretty. It's got to be a lot 2209 01:52:15.399 --> 01:52:17.199 pretty evident for me to call it that because like 2210 01:52:17.239 --> 01:52:19.199 the experiences, like some of the experiences that I have. 2211 01:52:19.600 --> 01:52:21.640 I'm sure some people say you're looney Tunes, you know, 2212 01:52:21.720 --> 01:52:25.319 And it's like, and I'm sure you guys run into 2213 01:52:25.319 --> 01:52:27.159 that too, where you see someone they come up to 2214 01:52:27.159 --> 01:52:29.000 you and you're like, I think you gotta trust your 2215 01:52:29.000 --> 01:52:32.520 gut on this. You're like, okay, that's cool, but okay, 2216 01:52:32.560 --> 01:52:34.840 I'll talk to you later, see you later. Bye. And 2217 01:52:35.319 --> 01:52:41.039 but I say that, and one of my recent experiences 2218 01:52:41.119 --> 01:52:47.520 has been my like a looney tune experience, like if 2219 01:52:47.560 --> 01:52:51.159 I went and you know, told someone and like I 2220 01:52:51.199 --> 01:52:54.439 told Brad from Frad from the Awaken podcast, I was like, dude, 2221 01:52:54.520 --> 01:52:56.199 You're never gonna believe what happened to me. This is 2222 01:52:56.239 --> 01:52:58.399 the craziest thing that I've ever happened to me in 2223 01:52:58.439 --> 01:52:59.880 my life. And I've had some crazy shit, like I 2224 01:52:59.920 --> 01:53:03.199 just said, you know, seen in like this plasma cloud 2225 01:53:03.439 --> 01:53:08.399 UFO kind of crap, and and shadow being floating above 2226 01:53:08.399 --> 01:53:12.039 my bed, but none of that compares to what happened recently. 2227 01:53:12.159 --> 01:53:15.840 And and it seems so looney tune. It's it's it's crazy. 2228 01:53:15.920 --> 01:53:18.399 It's the best way to say it is I saw 2229 01:53:18.439 --> 01:53:21.239 a rip in reality and I saw through it to 2230 01:53:21.279 --> 01:53:21.880 the other side. 2231 01:53:22.680 --> 01:53:24.840 Dude, it does feel like that. Trust me. 2232 01:53:24.920 --> 01:53:27.560 I've uh, it takes a lot for me to call 2233 01:53:27.600 --> 01:53:30.560 somebody a whack job or a looney tune or whatever, 2234 01:53:30.720 --> 01:53:33.199 because I've experienced some of the weirdest shit too, Dude, 2235 01:53:33.239 --> 01:53:35.479 Like I tripped on mushrooms one time and I heard 2236 01:53:35.560 --> 01:53:38.279 the yellowheem talking to me. There's another time I tripped 2237 01:53:38.279 --> 01:53:41.760 on Uh, It's kind of like a mushroom and d 2238 01:53:41.920 --> 01:53:45.479 MT kind of mixture, and I was being I was 2239 01:53:45.520 --> 01:53:47.640 being big spooned by a cat person. 2240 01:53:47.960 --> 01:53:50.119 It's like, what does this all mean? 2241 01:53:50.199 --> 01:53:52.880 I don't know, you know, like and so there there 2242 01:53:52.920 --> 01:53:55.800 are outliers like that just don't make any kind of 2243 01:53:55.800 --> 01:53:59.840 logical sense, but they happen to you. It's an experience 2244 01:53:59.880 --> 01:54:02.520 that you've gone through and now it's part of your 2245 01:54:02.560 --> 01:54:05.239 story and it's part of like whatever truth you're searching for, 2246 01:54:05.319 --> 01:54:08.960 because now that experience has to fit into the soup 2247 01:54:09.039 --> 01:54:10.600 that is the truth kind of thing. 2248 01:54:10.680 --> 01:54:11.640 And I think that. 2249 01:54:11.600 --> 01:54:13.600 There's a lot of people out there that have wild 2250 01:54:13.720 --> 01:54:16.960 experiences that maybe they never want to even tell anybody. 2251 01:54:17.079 --> 01:54:18.960 Maybe it's because they don't have an outlet like we 2252 01:54:19.039 --> 01:54:22.039 do in front of a microphone, or maybe they're scared 2253 01:54:22.079 --> 01:54:23.960 that they're going to be judged by their peers or 2254 01:54:23.960 --> 01:54:25.680 their family members or their friends, so they kind of 2255 01:54:25.760 --> 01:54:29.279 keep it to themselves. And now that it's like weirdly 2256 01:54:29.319 --> 01:54:32.640 sequestering in their mind and it's becoming discombobulated because there's 2257 01:54:32.640 --> 01:54:33.840 no way to be able to get it out and 2258 01:54:33.880 --> 01:54:36.479 tell people and try and formulate a and you know, 2259 01:54:36.760 --> 01:54:40.079 what's actually going on? Kind of situation and it's wild. 2260 01:54:40.119 --> 01:54:43.359 But this shit does happen, bro, Like it's I agree. 2261 01:54:43.359 --> 01:54:46.600 And I told this to Paul Stobs and Paul had 2262 01:54:46.720 --> 01:54:50.319 a similar experience, like I'm like, dude, this is the 2263 01:54:50.359 --> 01:54:53.039 craziest thing ever. And he's like, Okay, this is gonna 2264 01:54:53.079 --> 01:54:56.239 sound even crazier. Is that I've seen that place that 2265 01:54:56.279 --> 01:54:59.560 you're talking about, And he said he saw hat Man 2266 01:54:59.600 --> 01:55:04.720 in it. And I was like, what, So I'll I'll 2267 01:55:04.760 --> 01:55:06.560 just come out and tell you guys what happened. So 2268 01:55:06.600 --> 01:55:09.520 this this happened in August of this year. I pulled 2269 01:55:09.560 --> 01:55:11.439 up to a local grocery store and just a small 2270 01:55:11.479 --> 01:55:14.000 grocery sturtaut like your big ass ones here, It's just 2271 01:55:14.039 --> 01:55:16.199 a just a MoMA, more of a mom and pop 2272 01:55:16.239 --> 01:55:20.079 style one. And as I'm sitting in the car, shit 2273 01:55:20.159 --> 01:55:22.479 starts getting crazy. I start seeing stuff and I'm not 2274 01:55:22.960 --> 01:55:24.399 I'm not on anything. 2275 01:55:24.159 --> 01:55:24.800 And. 2276 01:55:26.319 --> 01:55:30.720 I start seeing like these crazy assue colors start manifesting 2277 01:55:30.720 --> 01:55:34.560 before me. And like I've never seen plasma, I said, 2278 01:55:34.560 --> 01:55:36.920 I saw a plasma looking cloud of that. I don't 2279 01:55:36.920 --> 01:55:38.199 know what plasma is, but this is the best way 2280 01:55:38.239 --> 01:55:41.439 to describe it was all these colors started manifesting before me. 2281 01:55:41.520 --> 01:55:44.399 And I've had people say, oh, that's an ocular migraine. 2282 01:55:44.760 --> 01:55:47.640 I've had this before. It's an ocular migraine. And I'm like, okay, 2283 01:55:48.159 --> 01:55:51.039 but there's more to it. So what happened was it 2284 01:55:51.159 --> 01:55:54.279 formed like this triangle and like a rip, and so 2285 01:55:54.359 --> 01:55:56.520 from one side it was small and it got bigger 2286 01:55:56.560 --> 01:56:00.359 and bigger and bigger. In my field of vision. On 2287 01:56:00.439 --> 01:56:05.159 the outsides of it was like this rainbow looking not rainbow, 2288 01:56:05.159 --> 01:56:09.600 it's kind of like this really bright white, yellow, reddish 2289 01:56:09.720 --> 01:56:14.399 orangish color. And it was like this plasma that's the 2290 01:56:14.399 --> 01:56:18.399 best way I can call it. And if you stare 2291 01:56:18.399 --> 01:56:20.359 at the sun long enough, let's see, you're just staring 2292 01:56:20.399 --> 01:56:21.760 at the sun and you look around, you kind of 2293 01:56:21.760 --> 01:56:24.680 see these crazy ass you know, trailer colors kind of thing. 2294 01:56:24.800 --> 01:56:27.640 That's what I was seeing. So I'm like, okay, okay, 2295 01:56:27.720 --> 01:56:29.319 I need to go into this grocery store. So I 2296 01:56:29.359 --> 01:56:33.199 walk in and it starts manifesting more. Then it starts 2297 01:56:33.199 --> 01:56:38.199 opening up and in behind it through it, I see 2298 01:56:38.239 --> 01:56:46.520 this this world, okay. I see a desolate, apocalyptic style 2299 01:56:46.640 --> 01:56:51.760 looking world. I see rubble rocks laying all around. It 2300 01:56:51.880 --> 01:56:53.399 kind of looks like a bit of a warehouse that 2301 01:56:53.439 --> 01:56:55.239 I'm standing in a warehouse and I'm looking out the warehouse, 2302 01:56:55.279 --> 01:56:58.359 which is kind of funny because I'm in this I'm 2303 01:56:58.399 --> 01:57:02.760 in this grocery store. Then and then I see the sky, 2304 01:57:02.880 --> 01:57:05.880 which is this brown as well. Everything is this brown, 2305 01:57:06.039 --> 01:57:08.680 rusty color. The rocks are like this, and in the 2306 01:57:08.720 --> 01:57:12.600 background are these huge, huge, like industrial style fans. They're 2307 01:57:12.640 --> 01:57:15.199 in a box covered, they're in boxes. They have grates 2308 01:57:15.199 --> 01:57:17.359 on the front. And these fans are slowly turning. And 2309 01:57:18.319 --> 01:57:19.760 something that stuck out to me is they're turning in 2310 01:57:19.760 --> 01:57:23.000 a clockwise counterclockwise motion. You know, They're kind of all 2311 01:57:23.359 --> 01:57:26.720 turning in a counterclock Ey's motion, just slowly, kind of 2312 01:57:26.760 --> 01:57:31.560 like whoo whoo, these big triple or quad blade fans. 2313 01:57:31.680 --> 01:57:36.319 And I'm looking at this and when I turn my head, 2314 01:57:36.399 --> 01:57:39.159 it's not like I'm turning and seeing different areas of 2315 01:57:39.199 --> 01:57:41.800 this area. I'm just seeing this one rip into the world. 2316 01:57:42.199 --> 01:57:45.079 And I close my one eye and I'm like, okay, 2317 01:57:45.079 --> 01:57:46.560 I still see it. So I close my other eye 2318 01:57:46.560 --> 01:57:48.479 and I still see it. I didn't close both eyes though, 2319 01:57:48.479 --> 01:57:50.039 to see if I can still see this. 2320 01:57:50.039 --> 01:57:50.199 This. 2321 01:57:50.479 --> 01:57:52.560 I could see this for almost ten or fifteen minutes, 2322 01:57:52.600 --> 01:57:54.840 so I go to the deli section, and I'm like 2323 01:57:55.880 --> 01:57:58.880 trying to deal with people that I can't see because 2324 01:57:58.880 --> 01:58:00.800 my field of vision is completely of scirit, but I 2325 01:58:00.800 --> 01:58:02.720 can see around them. I can see around it on 2326 01:58:02.760 --> 01:58:06.760 the sides. So I order my my cheese and my bacon, 2327 01:58:06.920 --> 01:58:08.239 and I go and pay for it, and again in 2328 01:58:08.239 --> 01:58:10.119 my car and I drive home and I'm still seeing this, 2329 01:58:10.319 --> 01:58:12.279 Like I only live about a block and a half away, 2330 01:58:12.479 --> 01:58:14.880 so I'm trying to be extremely careful and I'm like 2331 01:58:14.920 --> 01:58:18.119 having troubles driving. So I parked the car, go in 2332 01:58:18.159 --> 01:58:19.840 the house and I just tell my wife and I'm like, 2333 01:58:20.800 --> 01:58:22.079 I got a bit of a headache. I need to 2334 01:58:22.119 --> 01:58:24.439 lie down. Which there was no pain or nothing, but 2335 01:58:24.560 --> 01:58:28.880 I laid down and I asked in the name of 2336 01:58:28.960 --> 01:58:32.680 Jesus for this to be taken away, and it went away. 2337 01:58:32.800 --> 01:58:34.960 It went away within about a minute after doing that. 2338 01:58:35.920 --> 01:58:38.039 But this was the craziest thing ever. Was this? It 2339 01:58:38.199 --> 01:58:41.479 was It was this post apocalyptic style looking world. And 2340 01:58:41.920 --> 01:58:44.000 people are like, oh, that's an ocular migraine. I'm like, sure, 2341 01:58:44.079 --> 01:58:46.560 maybe those colors might have been, but I saw through it. 2342 01:58:46.680 --> 01:58:48.840 I saw to the other side. What that was, I 2343 01:58:48.880 --> 01:58:52.199 don't know, you know, was it me piercing the veil. 2344 01:58:52.520 --> 01:58:56.119 I don't know was it seeing, were the disembodied spirits 2345 01:58:56.119 --> 01:58:59.840 inhabit that type of world? It could be. I don't 2346 01:58:59.840 --> 01:59:03.279 know what I saw, but what I saw was real 2347 01:59:03.439 --> 01:59:06.359 enough to me that it scared the shit out of me. 2348 01:59:07.279 --> 01:59:11.600 That is so wild, dude, having an experience like that, Like, 2349 01:59:12.119 --> 01:59:12.880 what do you do with that? 2350 01:59:13.039 --> 01:59:13.239 Now? 2351 01:59:13.600 --> 01:59:17.399 You know, like, yeah, somebody you know, trying to basically 2352 01:59:17.399 --> 01:59:21.920 break it down scientifically that's an ocular thing going on, maybe, 2353 01:59:21.920 --> 01:59:25.039 but like that's not what my experience was like, because 2354 01:59:25.479 --> 01:59:27.720 something could happen with your eyes. But then there's like 2355 01:59:27.760 --> 01:59:31.199 a whole different vibe that's even going around. 2356 01:59:30.880 --> 01:59:33.159 To where did you feel like maybe you were. 2357 01:59:33.079 --> 01:59:35.079 In like a different dimension? Is that a thought that 2358 01:59:35.119 --> 01:59:36.000 even crossed your mind? 2359 01:59:36.479 --> 01:59:39.159 I felt like I was looking through to a different dimension. 2360 01:59:39.319 --> 01:59:41.560 That's exactly what I thought. I'm seeing through to the 2361 01:59:41.560 --> 01:59:46.239 other side. I'm seeing through the matrix or or something else, 2362 01:59:46.640 --> 01:59:48.640 is what I was. That's what I was thinking in 2363 01:59:48.640 --> 01:59:51.279 my mind. I'm like, Okay, I'm seeing everything for what 2364 01:59:51.319 --> 01:59:54.479 it maybe truly is. Maybe we are living in a 2365 01:59:55.119 --> 01:59:57.279 false like what we see is false and everything is 2366 01:59:57.279 --> 01:59:59.720 maybe all dead like this, And Paul was talking about 2367 01:59:59.760 --> 02:00:02.960 seeing the exact same world. He said he saw like this, 2368 02:00:02.960 --> 02:00:05.359 this hang this hanging sign. It was hanging by one 2369 02:00:05.439 --> 02:00:08.159 chain and it was creaking. And he's seen the hat 2370 02:00:08.199 --> 02:00:11.600 man in this world as well, which is which brings 2371 02:00:11.640 --> 02:00:16.319 credence to that it's possibly this world that's inhabited by 2372 02:00:16.359 --> 02:00:18.680 these disembodied spirits. It's on this other side. And that's 2373 02:00:18.680 --> 02:00:22.640 why they're trying to get out, and they're trying to 2374 02:00:22.680 --> 02:00:25.640 possess us, you know, that's why, because they want out 2375 02:00:25.640 --> 02:00:28.760 of that world, because that world is this apocalyptic world, 2376 02:00:29.119 --> 02:00:31.720 and what we see is this beautiful world. We we 2377 02:00:31.760 --> 02:00:34.239 have these beautiful smells, you know, we have like all 2378 02:00:34.279 --> 02:00:39.239 this nature, all this food, these you know, great drinks, everything, 2379 02:00:39.520 --> 02:00:41.880 And maybe that is why they're like, I just I 2380 02:00:41.960 --> 02:00:44.359 just need to inhabit something, you know. When Jesus cast 2381 02:00:44.399 --> 02:00:47.399 out these demons out of these out of these people, 2382 02:00:47.600 --> 02:00:49.840 I remember, I don't quote me on the scripture of 2383 02:00:49.880 --> 02:00:52.199 what exactly it is, but they said, please don't cast 2384 02:00:52.279 --> 02:00:54.840 us into the abyss, you know, put us into pigs, 2385 02:00:54.960 --> 02:00:57.199 just put us into anything. And it was it was 2386 02:00:57.239 --> 02:01:01.680 maybe to stay within this world, anything anything but the abyss, 2387 02:01:01.720 --> 02:01:04.359 anything but that that area. Yeah. 2388 02:01:04.439 --> 02:01:07.319 Wow, dude, there's I mean, there's something to it. 2389 02:01:07.600 --> 02:01:10.680 I I think that you know that we're not crazy 2390 02:01:10.720 --> 02:01:14.359 for having experienced these with these like weird and wild things. 2391 02:01:14.399 --> 02:01:17.199 I think that it's probably more normal than than most 2392 02:01:17.239 --> 02:01:19.800 people want to believe, you know, Like I feel like 2393 02:01:19.920 --> 02:01:23.920 everybody has that story that they've experienced that, like it 2394 02:01:24.039 --> 02:01:26.039 is so wild. I don't even want to tell you 2395 02:01:26.119 --> 02:01:28.319 the story because then you're gonna judge me kind of wild, 2396 02:01:28.840 --> 02:01:30.640 you know, like it's. 2397 02:01:30.720 --> 02:01:31.800 It's a it's a real thing. 2398 02:01:31.840 --> 02:01:32.079 Brother. 2399 02:01:32.239 --> 02:01:35.640 But but look, look, we we've kept you here long enough. 2400 02:01:35.680 --> 02:01:38.239 We appreciate you coming and hanging out with us. This 2401 02:01:38.399 --> 02:01:39.359 was a lot of fun, dude. 2402 02:01:39.920 --> 02:01:41.760 Yeah, no problem, Jonathan, I appreciate it as well. 2403 02:01:41.960 --> 02:01:44.520 Yeah, brother, Well, let the good cult members out there 2404 02:01:44.640 --> 02:01:46.039 know where they can find you if they want to 2405 02:01:46.039 --> 02:01:48.079 be able to search up you or anything that you're. 2406 02:01:47.960 --> 02:01:51.479 About, all right for sure? Man. Yeah, it's a Codegus 2407 02:01:51.560 --> 02:01:55.199 Codex of curiosities, and it it's pretty easy to spell 2408 02:01:55.239 --> 02:01:57.319 it out. It sounds exactly like it sounds. You know, 2409 02:01:57.399 --> 02:02:03.000 I'm on YouTube, Rumble, uh, Spotify, Spreaker, you know, you 2410 02:02:03.119 --> 02:02:07.520 name it. I'm on it all and I put out 2411 02:02:07.560 --> 02:02:09.800 an episode usually one a week. Maybe sometimes two a 2412 02:02:09.840 --> 02:02:13.279 week if I'm getting a little uh you know, sometimes 2413 02:02:13.319 --> 02:02:15.760 if I just get some back up. And then sometimes 2414 02:02:15.800 --> 02:02:19.079 I do some lives, you know, like Brad and I do. 2415 02:02:19.159 --> 02:02:20.680 We kind of do a bunch of lives together here, 2416 02:02:20.720 --> 02:02:22.159 and then we do some call in shows where we 2417 02:02:22.239 --> 02:02:24.760 get our our listeners and viewers to call in and 2418 02:02:24.840 --> 02:02:26.319 tell tell their experiences. 2419 02:02:26.800 --> 02:02:27.279 Awesome. 2420 02:02:27.319 --> 02:02:29.239 Shout out to Brad, He's the one that hooked us 2421 02:02:29.319 --> 02:02:32.520 up so big. Shout out to the homie at Awakened 2422 02:02:32.640 --> 02:02:35.640 Podcast thirty three. He's the man, and we appreciate you 2423 02:02:35.720 --> 02:02:37.239 coming on and hanging out with us. Dude, this was 2424 02:02:37.239 --> 02:02:37.880 a lot of fun. 2425 02:02:38.439 --> 02:02:41.159 I appreciate you guys having me. This was great. This 2426 02:02:41.319 --> 02:02:43.039 time went the time went by really fast. 2427 02:02:43.359 --> 02:02:45.760 It typically does over here. Yeah it is. It is 2428 02:02:45.800 --> 02:02:48.520 a weird thing, but uh well look this was awesome. 2429 02:02:48.520 --> 02:02:48.640 Man. 2430 02:02:48.720 --> 02:02:50.920 Can't wait to do it again. But I do want 2431 02:02:50.960 --> 02:02:53.319 to remind all the good cult members out there. 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